Too Scary; Didn't Watch - Bonus Episode: TITANIC

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

It's the episode you've all been waiting for! Emily finally saw Titanic so we finally get to talk about it, and we have A LOT to say! So join us as we discuss overachiever James Cameron's 1997 epic film that set the standard for vessel cinema. We'll never let go of our love for this perfect film. To hear this full episode, join our Patreon.  Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, Bonus episode for the month of February in the year of 2023 The other day you guys in class, I was writing notes And I wrote the date down and I wrote February 17th, 2021 And was like, what? What? I just wrote it and was like, wait So anyway, no, it's 2023

2023, oh my god We got a freaking episode for our vessel heads this week Yeah, we do Oh, it's a big one, it's a big one It's perhaps the biggest vessel that we could discuss The vessel movie of our lives Yeah We today are going to be talking about titanic

1997 film drama romance titanic it's uh you know not a horror movie but in real life deeply horrifying and honestly some of the moments in this movie really very upsetting and sad and i have the same reaction watching and i'm just like oh i think this is making me feel how horror movies make you guys feel like i felt horrified really horrified at a lot of things very upsetting i also want to say that i watched it for the first time in my life. Yes. I watched Titanic for the first time. When did you watch it?

I watched it on... Did you guys go together? We went to the movies. So they've re-released it. It's already gone, isn't it? No, I think it's still there. It might be gone by the time this comes out. I'm not sure how long they're keeping it in.

It's still around. But they re-released it in. Well, the movie's still around. But they re-released it in theaters and they did it in 3D. And I've never, I'd never seen it because I don't know. I just, I think I was scared of it

when it first came out, honestly. Like it sounded bad and sad to me. And then, you know, I get it. I get what it's about. I get the deal. and it's so long and it just always was like well i don't want to sit down now and watch a three hour three hour 15 minute sad movie why would i do that to myself and right you guys it's so good it's so good i can't i looked over at her afterwards and it was the first thing she

said she's just had the biggest smile and said titanic is so good so i'm like i can't even like my mind was blown it's still blown it's been a week we saw it last Sunday First of all like three hours Have never gone by so fast in my life Like I like I can't It Needs to be three hours and 15 minutes I've never thought that about a movie ever But I was like can't cut a single moment

It's perfect I can't believe How good It is and I can't Believe I've it is and I can't believe I've never seen it and it's like duh it's Titanic it's one of the best movies I get it I get it I get it but like

it's so good it's so good my question is did this when you were so I think I was in third grade so you would I was in third grade. So you would have been in second grade, I think. Yeah. When it came out, I guess that was still really young.

But in third grade, even it like swept my classroom. I mean, you couldn't step foot in that school if you had not seen Titanic. Like, didn't you say there was a competition to see who could see Titanic the most number of times in theater? I would like to join that competition. It literally wasn't until I talked to you guys that I realized that that wasn't the case like at schools across just everywhere. Yeah. No, I mean, I remember people being obsessed with Titanic. Certainly like my peers now as I've grown up being like, oh, everybody that every woman I know who is around my age is obsessed or was obsessed with Titanic. And I just never felt like it was for me.

Just never felt like it was for me. Well, well, to be fair. I was so wrong. To be fair to that point, even though it's not a horror movie, it is fucked up. The whole situation. And I was reading the situation of Titanic. Pretty fucked up the whole situation and i was reading the situation the situation of titanic pretty fucked up really fucked up really fucked up like it hits me hard when i think about it it hits me hard and i've spent a lot of mornings thinking about the titanic ever since i saw it you know

in third grade just waking up and thinking about it. And I was reading a Vulture article that just came out a few days ago that was talking about how like Titanic is a masterpiece. It is. There's a line in it that really stuck with me, which is the first half of Titanic feels at times like it was written by a lovesick teenager, while the second half feels like it was conceived by a sadistic engineer designing an ornate torture device. I mean, it's absolutely two movies. And it feels like two different movies, but like in a way that is one movie and must be one movie. Yeah, you need both parts. Yes.

James Cameron, king of vessel cinema. He is the king of vessel cinema without a doubt. Without a doubt. And I think the king of making his actors absolutely miserable. The king of actors' rights violations.

Okay, so yeah, it's written and directed by James Cameron, starring obviously Leonardo DiCaprio and kate winslet leo di caprio uh we've got billy zane kathy bates francis fisher and gloria stewart as well 88 on rotten tomatoes should be 175 on metacritic 7.7.9 on imdb yeah should be straight 100s all ones and zeros there All ones and zeros And we know

And we know how many Of all of those we want Budget was 200 million In 97 Jesus That is a lot You can see it

It's on the screen It's on the screen It's a lot of money And it's also more Than it would have cost To build The Titanic The movie Titanic Cost more than it would have cost to build the Titanic. The movie Titanic cost more than the ship Titanic. I saw that trivia.

They broke it down based on what the amount of money would have been when Titanic was built. It would have been around $150,000,000. $90,000,000 equivalent. The movie cost more than the ship. Worth it, obviously. Worth it. 100% worth it. Well, it went on to become the first movie to gross a billion dollars. Right now it's at 2.225 billion. It's in a real neck and neck

race right now with Avatar 2 for that number three spot of the highest grossing films of all time number one and two being uh the first avatar and avengers end game i can't remember which avengers now oops but one of them jesus christ james cameron oh my god that's crazy yeah so if they're able to bump out Avengers, he'll have the three highest grossing movies of all time. I can't believe Avatar is that is the number one highest. I think we have to keep in mind. And I said this actually when we left Titanic, we were talking about this. I think we have to keep in mind the 3D movie price. Is that it?

I think he's gamed the system a little bit when it comes to avatar and avatar way of water because you're deaf 90 of people who see those movies are seeing them in 3d like no question but i think also like a testament to titanic is like titanic came out in 97 those movies came out much more recently i guess when did the first Avatar Come out? 2000 and something 8 or something like that Well my mind is blown that that's Only 10 years after the Titanic Came out 11 years after

Yeah but still I mean the staying power of this Film. The Titanic Wait it's just Titanic Yes Okay Titanic. The Titanicanic the titanic is the ship titanic is the movie right it's actually a perfect movie i wouldn't change a thing i would change one thing what would you change leo dying sorry spoiler alert No, it's a perfect movie My god, it's perfect

It was nominated for 14 Oscars Won 11 of them A lot of Oscars A lot My goodness Best Picture, Best Director, Cinematography, Costume, Sound Film Editing Did Leo win? No, Leo I don't even think was nominated.

Kate was nominated and did not win. Yes. I also, okay, so like when we got home from Titanic, when we got home from Titanic, all I did was look up facts about the movie Titanic for a really long time. And now it's been a week, so I didn't write any of these down.

But now that you're saying these trivia out loud, I'm like, right, yep, I read that, yep. I just like, I became obsessed with it. The the imdb there's too much trivia page i could not i don't think i even got through a quarter of it it's enormous the most trivia i've ever seen it's enormous it's too much it's like a novel yeah it's a titanic amount of trivia it's too much but i think too much the only other movies that have won 11 Oscars Are Ben-Hur and then Return of the King

Also won 11 Oscars I remember Return of the King Happening I remember watching that and being like It's winning too many, this is getting boring Okay but Return of the King is so good though Not my favorite Really? Of the three or just in general?

Of the three I'm more of a Two Towers fan. Well, they're all great. Don't make me choose. I honestly think my favorite might be Fellowship. And we're not here to talk about that. We're here to talk about it. We should do those. That would be fun because I haven't seen

I've seen Fellowship a couple times, but I don't think I've seen the other two besides like in theaters. Joel and I watch the extended versions like multiple times a year. Really? Yeah. They're probably the movies Joel's seen most in his life and then since being with Joel. So honestly just in the past five

years I've probably seen those three movies. Again extended editions which are like four something each. Ten times. how many of those times you could have been watching titanic you know it'll haunt it'll haunt me uh we kind of hinted at it but kate winslet famously had a very bad time filming this movie some actors rights violations here james cameron apparently made a lot of comments about her weight

and appearance throughout filming and basically yeah like telling her she should diet shouldn't eat this or that and just like so fucking infuriating wow she was so young too right yeah and then but she also i think the shoot was obviously just very brutal in general for everybody there's a lot of stunts and a lot of a lot of water a lot of water and so she got injured a few times i'm not sure how and in what uh scenes but she had like she said she's like always had bruises she chipped a bone in her elbow. So that by the end of filming this, she said,

you'd have to pay me a lot of money to work with James Cameron again. And he did. Yeah. She is in avatar too. More water. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I didn't even think to write this down,

but Kate Winslet in avatar too, broke the record of the longest time an actor held their breath. Broke Tom Cruise's records. She held her breath for, I think, seven minutes and 15 seconds. filming Titanic. She was the only actor who wasn't allowed to wear a wetsuit because she was wearing that dress. But everybody else

in all the water scenes was wearing wetsuits. And so she actually got hypothermia, which is like, make that water fucking warm.

What are we doing? Jesus Christ. No, they made. Yeah, he made it cold on purpose. He's such a douchebag. I know. It's like he seems

like a terror. I really wouldn't like to meet him. Really wouldn't like to meet him. Although I will say this movie was funnier Than I feel like I'm used to James Cameron

It was funny A fair bit of it I think There was a decent amount of improvisation On the parts of Leo and Kate Which I think is also like those scenes That feel a lot lighter A lot of that was Improvised conversation, the spitting

And them on the like deck Of the boat before that when she's looking at his art and stuff. It's improvised. Yeah. So we have them to thank for- I'm King of the World was improvised. I mean- It was? It's Leo, baby.

Wow. A true star. Yeah. I remember when this happened in 2012, they re-released it to theaters i think that was when they first made it 3d i remember i was in spain studying abroad when they re-released titanic because i remember my friends back in home and college being really excited to all go see titanic and i wow if i hadn't studied abroad, I would have seen Titanic 10 years sooner. That's crazy, guys. Anyway, I keep going.

I remember that Neil deGrasse Tyson had complained to James Cameron, which is just, this is so annoying to me. I like can't roll my eyes hard enough at whatever you're about to say. That the stars in the night sky were inaccurate to how they would have been on that night and james cameron rather than being like hey man fuck you went back and redid the stars for that 2012 re-release so now they are scientifically accurate which is just two of the most obnoxious men doing obnoxious shit that makes me so mad i'm like get the fuck over yourselves both of you literally something productive cares neil who cares guess what neil these people aren't really either they're made up for the movie

god damn oh my god and yeah james wasting all that fucking time and money to be like oh fix it shut up the stars are good now nobody cares yeah and it's it's but it's his like perfectionism and it just keeps getting rewarded so he's not gonna he's not, so he's not going to change. He's not going to change. That's typical James stuff. That ship, as they say, has sailed. That's right. Okay, one more little bit of trivia that I remember from looking through that big old list is that the compiled runtime of all the scenes on the actual ship, all the scenes that take place in 1912.

Is an hour and 40 minutes. Which is almost exactly as long. As it took the Titanic to sink. That's cool. And the shot of them hitting the iceberg. Is the exact amount. Of seconds that they were actually. In contact with the iceberg.

It's like 38 seconds or something. That's the thing. I do appreciate James Cameron's's like yeah it's like 30 something like 38 seconds or something it's the exact thing is like i do appreciate james cameron's accuracy but it's also like all right let's maybe to a point yeah at a certain point it gets obnoxious but i do that stuff is appreciate that stuff yeah um and i feel like a tribute that we've also mentioned for some reason another in another episode but i'll say it every time there's a reason To bring it up which is that on 9-11 James Cameron and Bill Paxton were In a submarine at the Titanic

And didn't know that it happened It's very crazy Because they just go to The Titanic a lot They just go to the Titanic They love to do it I mean I'd love to do it. Yeah, it would be pretty cool to see it.

I'd tolerate James for that. Yeah, I'd tolerate James for that. But only for that. I think I'm going to go to the Titanic exhibit. Because I'm interested in that. And I think I'll also be watching the movie Titanic a lot more. Quite a few more times. I'd love to go again in theaters.

Me too. I think they should release it in theaters every couple years. Yeah. I mean, every year would also be great. Just be like, it's the 26th anniversary of Titanic. Yeah, but you'll probably release it again on the 30th anniversary, right? Yeah. We'll just have to go every single time, obviously.

Yeah. That's exciting to think about. That's so exciting to think about. That's something to look forward to. Thank God. I don't know if anyone's heard that. We'll always have Titanic. Titanic theater re-releases just keeping me going.

There's going to be another one. theater re-releases just keeping me going. There's going to be another one. I mean, let's talk about it because I am getting emotional. I need to talk about Titanic. It's really crazy. It's really crazy to become obsessed with a movie 25 years after it came out because I feel like I can't just like talk to anyone. I'd be like, so guys, let's talk about Titanic.

Have you seen it? it's so good well you can definitely talk to me to do that because it's so good it's like the best movie i've ever seen do you think if you had seen it as a kid you would have been scared of it or been upset by it or do you think you would buy it i think i would have been upset by it or do you think you would have i think i would have been upset by it the end stuff will get there it's really upsetting i also think like i was meant to see it as an adult yeah like the the the profoundness of the story like i don't know it really it hits you as an adult i i had a thought while watching it this time because this was my first viewing since 1997 oh my god i saw it in theaters as an eight-year-old and i did have a like very big emotional reaction to i think i loved it and i loved leonardo dicaprio but

um but it was obviously devastating but I had the thought that it reminded me watching it now reminded me of when I was a kid and went to the Grand Canyon and was like, Oh yeah, it's like, it's cool. I guess like a big rocks and stuff. Yeah. And then going to the Grand Canyon as an adult and it literally almost knocking the wind out of me almost fell over backwards stunned by just how yeah it was it was like it's crazy the Grand Canyon is crazy you need like lived experience to understand the impact of something that spectacular yes and i felt that way watching this movie i was like the titanic titanic is like the grand canyon that's right it's exactly like the grand canyon also just like their love story the sadness of what that would have been like to experience everybody on the ship just like all of it. I just feel like I wouldn't have gotten it. No, I certainly didn't.

As an eight year old, I think it was just like, yeah, a beautiful couple and some sad stuff. It really shows you the power of this movie that Titanic, the massive disaster. Titanic The massive Disaster This was Joel's point and as I say that Because I'm stealing it from his opinion Has been rebranded into Something romantic just because of this

Movie like this is a Valentine's Day event Titanic Right A thing where 1500 people died Yeah crazy Yeah And perfect and I can't wait to talk about it and let's fucking talk about it oh my god yeah we should say we're not doing a full recap but we're just

gonna go through it here for eight hours because we would need to break down every freaking detail yeah so we just have a obviously have a lot to say about this movie so we're just gonna say all of our thoughts you know keeping it at a reasonable runtime no promises um but i literally am so excited i have been looking forward to this discussion uh all week since we saw it this is the most excited i've ever been for a recording we've ever done this is up there for yeah the most excited i've ever been. I literally can't wait. I'm so amped. I've never been more excited in my entire life for literally anything. So let's freaking get into it. Let's do it.

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