Too Scary; Didn't Watch - CANDYMAN (2021)

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

Hook hands, bee stings, and some truly brutal pranks - we're recapping the long anticipated Candyman! Join us as we say his name five times into the mirror.Candyman is now in theaters.00:00 - Shoutouts02:48 - Episode starts20:33 - Trivia35:03 - Recap starts Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies. So I watch them and I tell you all about them. Give you all those details that you're dying to know, but you're too scared to see for yourselves. Oh, my God. It's so much better than reading a Wikipedia article.

I got to say. So much. So much better. I get to listen to your beautiful voice in my ear. Tell me about the most horrific things I've ever heard in my entire life. A freaking dream come true. Oh, what a dream. Wouldn't trade it for anything else.

No, I wouldn't trade it. If I was offered a trade, I wouldn't take it. If I was offered a trade for anything, I wouldn't trade it. Never anything. For nothing ever. Wouldn't trade it. Nothing. Nothing.

And I've missed you guys because we haven't. We took a little break. We recorded a bunch and then took time off because Emily and I went on vacation. And so even though an episode came out regularly last week, I feel like time has passed. Time has passed. What the frick have you guys been up to? OK, well, let me tell you what I've been up to. Because this is all I've been doing. I've watched 35 episodes of Love Island in like five

days. Music to my ears. I can't get enough of it. I go to bed thinking about it. I wake up thinking about it. It's all I want to talk about. It's all I want to do with my free time. I like it's literally you guys. It's the solution to being at home with a with an infant. Yes. It truly because like I can just keep it on all day. You know, I like don't need to turn it off. It's what I watch when I'm hungover, which is like being an infant yourself. A great hangover show. You had always said that. And I never like could bring myself to watch it when I was hungover because I was already I was feeling like so shitty when I was hungover. And for some reason, the idea of watching Love Island, I felt like that would make me

feel worse. No, it would have made me feel better. And it was a mistake. And I should have been watching it for years. Wow. So great. It's so good. And I got to tell you, so I turned it on

like I turned it on one night while I was pumping. One thing I have to do now. And I was like, maybe this would be a show that I watch while I do this. Turned it on. Tim had already kind of gone to sleep. He like comes out of the bedroom to go to the bathroom. I'm like halfway through an episode and I turned to him and I'm like, dude, we are watching love Island. Love Island is now my show. I love it so much.

I love that. You were like, maybe this is what I watched when I pump. And then he said, this is what I watch. Oh, this is all I do. I'm never not watching it.

And Tim was like, I was like, you got to watch with me. And he was like, no, absolutely not. Well, when I have it on 24 seven, he can't help but watch it. No choice, no choice, but no choice, but to watch it with me now. And I got to say, he's just as hooked as I am. He wants to know he wants to know what's going to happen. I dare anyone to watch it and say differently. Oh, give it a real chance. And I don't think I'm even watching the good season.

I've heard from other people that season three, Sammy, you told me season three is the season to watch. Season one and season three are truly perfect pieces of television. Which one? Okay, so I'm almost done with season four. So which one should I watch? Should I watch season

one and then season three after this? Where do you watch it? Hulu. Yeah, it's on Hulu. Okay, I'll watch season one and let me? Should I watch season one and then season three after this? Where do you watch it? Hulu. Yeah, it's on Hulu. Okay, I'll watch season one. And let me know when you start season one and I'll watch it with you. Oh my God, you will? That would make me so happy.

I'm warning, there are like 60 episodes. Season one is a little shorter. Okay. Are there really 60? Yes. Season two, season three, I think it's close to 60. 60? It's 60.

And they're about a full to 60. 60? Yes. And they're a full hour long, yes. Oh my god! It took me a year, I think, to watch one season one time. Yeah, it's taken me, it's taken me like a week to watch one season, so that's where we are right now. Wow, okay.

I'm in. I'm literally, you guys, I'm not exaggerating, I'm watching at like 7 a.m. Because I wake up with Silas at like 5 a.m. And by 7.30, we're watching Love Island together. Silas has heard so much Love Island. Oh my God. He's gonna, his first words are gonna be like.

Chuffed. Chuffed. They all call each other babe or babes. And I kind of love that. I'm going to start calling you guys babes. I love that babe. I love that babe. We're vibing babes and I kind of love that. I'm going to start calling you guys babes. I love that babe. We're vibing babes. I fucking love it so hard.

Anyway, that's what I've been doing. So happy for you. And for Sammy, honestly. Yeah, this is huge for everyone. Just a reminder, the time that I ate 25 milligrams of weed, I was watching Love Island and I had to turn it off because I thought that I ate 25 milligrams of weed I was

watching Love Island and I had to turn it off because I thought that I couldn't speak English anymore because I couldn't understand anything any of them were saying and I got scared. I have to watch your subtitles. Honestly that's I believe it because it's hard to understand what them

their accents are so intense but what about you guys? What have you been up to? i went to hawaii it was great i've never been it is beautiful as they say um it was great it was a lovely time i made i finished the outfits you guys i finished the outfits i wore the outfits the outfits were amazing by the way thank you i'm really glad that it got done and i learned a lot along the way that's the thing that is why it's also i get so obsessive about doing these things because it feels so good to like to start something and complete something and then to learn i made a robe for joel and i'm like now i can make fucking robes like that's so fun and cool and it's just you know so it was great and we had a lovely time and um and and i had been holding off on watching the white lotus until after

which was the right choice um i but i have started i have not finished it i've watched the first three episodes so i'm finally i'm finally up where everybody was several weeks ago, which is obsessed with the White Lotus. And I just gotta say, I also started watching Loki. I'm behind on that too. Also really love it. But man, oh man. You know who I don't think enough

about? You know who I don't think about enough? Who? Steve Zahn. Why am I not thinking about Steve Zahn all the time he is so incredible he's such a that guy like you see him and you're like that guy who's that guy? I would

elevate him higher than a that guy because we know his name is Steve Zahn and I feel like I've known his name for a while so he did something he did something I even tried to look him up because I was like I know Steve Zahn like I'm but I looked him up and was like, I don't even know why. See, this is why you said that guy. What else has he been in?

That's true. Yeah, I can't name a thing. I'm thinking of like, dude, where's my car? But I think I'm thinking of Sean William Scott. That's really funny. But oh my God, he is so fucking good in The White Lotus. It is. I know we've talked a lot about

jennifer cool she was also also obviously incredible like it's her fucking show but it is also steve zahn's show and i know i'm not done with it yet but when he's acting like a monkey that episode where he decides he's he comes in the bedroom and he goes like and he does that monkey thing for a while i love i i love imagining when i see shows like this like what it said on the page like i'm sure it just said like a character like acts like a gorilla and seeing seeing his interpretation of it is fucking genius and I truly I'm like obsessed with him in this show anyway so I've just

been watching fucking I gotta say I just looked up Steve Zahn at IMDb and not one thing on his vast resume is standing out to me I'm telling you what is it why do we know him it's like Joyride and Sahara and yeah is standing out to me. I'm telling you, what is it? Why do we know him? It's like Joyride and Sahara

and yeah, these are not jumping out at me either. Not at all. He was in You've Got Mail. That's the only one that I'm like, huh? Was he working in the bookstore? He was the voice in Stuart Little. That's where I know him from. Yeah, I'm telling you, I just did this the other day because I was like,

I fucking love Steve Zahn. Why am I not always thinking about Steve Zahn? I looked at his filmography and was like, I'm telling you, I just did this the other day because I was like, I fucking love Steve Zahn. Why am I not always thinking about Steve Zahn? I looked at his filmography and was like, I don't understand. I don't understand why. This is really fascinating. If anybody could fill us in on why it is that we all know him and love him and yet don't know why or how. I mean, he's just been in so many things but all of them are not noticeable at all anyway that's what i've been doing um well pretty

big news over here as well i have started practicing witchcraft oh my god i forgot sammy's witchcraft you better believe, listeners will know that I dipped a toe into Reddit, quickly went fully under. Yeah, I was gonna say. Dived right in. Pulled me in to the depths. The darkest depths.

And I thought Reddit was gonna be just nothing but bad news for the rest of my time with it. But then I stumbled across a subreddit called Witches vs. Patriarchy. Oh my god. And it got

me interested, obviously. And I started kind of reading more about witchcraft. We've got some witch listeners. We've gotten messages before because we used to say Hail Satan and someone told us say Hail Hecate. witch listeners we've got we've gotten messages before um because we used to say hail satan and someone told us say hail hecate which they actually say hail or they say hecate in white lotus and i was like oh they're talking about hecate um and i found there's a lot it's overwhelming

there's a lot to know about witchcraft there's a lot of different types of witches there's and you can be multiple types you can be uh wiccan a pagan witch you can be a green witch a kitchen witch an elemental witch you can do candle magic astrology is part of witchcraft crystal work tarot there's a lot and so i found a podcast called that witch which kind of breaks it down um in a way that makes it a little easier for me to handle because i get pretty easily overwhelmed and i sent emily that there was something called bath magic emily loves taking baths and you can put crystals in your bath and say a little um spell before bath time. I thought that sounded very nice. That sounds great. I want to do that.

Yeah, you told me tarot and astrology are witchcraft, so we're already starting the journey. Tomorrow, it'll be in the past when this comes out, but in the future for us, tomorrow is a big new moon.

And I would like to do some new moon witchcraft with you. So we're witches. It's like it's nice. It's like intention setting. And it's basically stuff that I've already been like trying to do anyways through like meditation and that kind of thing. And I think it's similarly can be about checking in with yourself, being present with yourself, being intentional. And I just think it's going to be a really great thing. I will say the one time ever that we all got together and made vision boards and set

intentions and goals. A pandemic did happen. right the pandemic happened and life stopped and none of our goals came to pass so but you know what are the odds of that yeah i'm not saying i'm not saying the whole pandemic was us making vision boards it's fault but no i hope not i'm basically just saying i really hope not and if i do witchcraft with you and then it happens again then i'll know but until then you know once does not a pattern make true um so yeah that's been pretty fun i'll keep you guys posted seems like it's on on in theme on brand for the pod so i'll just keep you posted on my on my witchcraft journey i love it um but let's get into this week's movie which is very exciting a much

anticipated film that speaking of said pandemic got postponed because of it um for a year or so. And this week's movie is Candyman, the 2021 sequel to the original. Oh, it's a sequel. It's a sequel. It is not a remake. Oh, I thought it was a remake too. Oh, that's cool. It's a sequel.

It is directed by Nia DaCosta, written by Nia DaCosta, Wynne Rosenfeld, and Jordan Peele, starring Yaya Abdul-Mateen II, Teyona Paris, Nathan Stewart Jarrett, and Coleman Domingo. Coleman Domingo is the guy from Euphoria

that plays Zendaya's sponsor, who we love so much. Oh, I love him. He is so great. He is so good. He's so, so, so good. Everyone is really good in this so good he's so so so good everyone is really good in this and it's so well directed I have

some problems with it which we'll get into okay but I think overall I really I really enjoyed this movie hell yeah Jenna and I went to see it in in a theater and we were the only ones in the theater.

And it was a pretty big theater. And then I think like a person who worked there came in a little bit into the movie and started like kind of making a little bit of noise in the back at like scary parts. And it really freaked me out. I was like, oh my God, why would you come in as it's like getting scary and start making mysterious noises behind me? Especially in a huge theater when you're alone. I hate that.

I always get spooked in theaters for scary movies. I'm on edge. I'm on edge in movie theaters for sure, too. But what do you guys know about Candyman, the original? Any... I presume no one, neither of you have seen it, but what do you know about it well we've

saw a significant portion of the movie in one of those history of horror episodes so i feel like horror noir yeah oh and horror noir yeah horror noir so i feel like i've actually seen so many clips from it there's the bees yeah i know there's a lot of bees and he has a hook and something that you like summon him it's like sort of a beetlejuice thing if you say his name enough and and he had kind of a traumatic backstory or something like awful happened to him and i don't know what it is incredibly traumatic yes oh no we're gonna find out i bet and we'll get into that because that's part of what's so interesting about this sequel is that one of the, you know, main complaints about the original is that it's kind of using

this black trauma as entertainment. And that's something we're kind of like reckoning with now. Yeah. And do you guys remember that show Them that came out recently that had like a huge backlash because it was like, why the fuck are we doing this? Like, is this entertainment? What is this? And I think this movie, the 2021 one, is trying to trying to answer that in a way that's like. This is the first one with also with a black protagonist like in can the original candy man

and the sequels right it's all told from a white perspective oh i'd forgotten that yeah and so what's yeah what's great about this film is that it's like told from a black point of view and kind of rewriting the narrative of candy man as like not just being black trauma for entertainment value. Okay, that's great. Should we would it be useful for you to like quickly recap the first movie? Does it important to do that in order to understand the sequel? Are you going to do that? Yes, I think I think I'll do that. I think I'll read you the Wikipedia synopsis. But before we get into that, let me give you some trivia. And also note to listeners, we will be retiring our cocktail hour.

Sorry to announce, but we have over 100 cocktails in previous episodes for you to choose from. Yeah, we were really scraping the bottom of the barrel there with cocktail recipes. Yeah. Sorry, guys. If you want to know our favorite cocktails or just if you can always just message us and be like, I want to have a cocktail tonight. I mean, don't do it too much, but. Already I'm like this.

But we like cocktails. We'll help. We'll help you out with some cocktails, but we're just not going to. Pair them with films anymore. Do it here anymore. Yeah. Yeah. We've done.

We've done several cocktails. We've done some really outlandish ones. I think mostly outlandish ones are left. So, yeah. We're moving on. We're moving on. So, Candyman, 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, 72%

on Metacritic, 8.3% on IMDb. Very impressive. IMDb is the toughest critic of all time. I love this one. It came out on August 27th, 2021. The budget was $25 million. So far, it's made $40 million. It's still in theaters currently.

And upon the second day of its release, it dethroned Free Guy to be the top box office to get the number one spot. Sorry, Reynolds. Get out of here, Free Guy. And made Nia DaCosta the first black female director to hold that record. Oh, hell yeah. Holy shit. Wow, that's wild that it's the first time that that's happened. But also, of course it is.

Not surprising, yeah. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, that's wild that it's the first time that that's happened but also of course it is fuck yeah hell yeah that's cool and production was brought back to the Cabrini Green neighborhood so the original takes place in Cabrini Green which is a housing projects in Chicago

and they filmed this also there and Jordan Peele was originally Green, which is a housing projects in Chicago. And they filmed this also there. And Jordan Peele was originally set to also direct the film. That's all the trivia says. No, no, no, like why that changed. But I guess he was originally supposed to

direct. And yes, that it is a sequel and not a remake. And it ignores the events of the other sequels because it is a sequel and not a remake and it ignores the events of the other sequels because there is a Candyman 2 and 3. Oh so it's a direct sequel to the first. That's right. I love that.

Because I think the 2 and 3 from what I've heard are like not good. So they're just ignoring it. You can make that choice to be like okay yeah no but we're like like almost like the first one is this like hub and there are branches it's like it could have been this sequel but it's gonna be this sequel instead yeah yeah i love it and uh The crew encountered a bee infestation during filming. Get out. No.

Really? Yeah, I guess so. Which is very funny. There are, yep, bees in it. There are bees in it. I know in the original, they used a lot of bees. Oh, you know what I read is that in the original, they bred bees specifically for the film because I guess bees under two days old can't sting yet. They haven't developed their stinger.

And so they would have like newborn bees to act. It's a bunch of baby bees. Yeah. to act it's a bunch of baby bees yeah but then also Tony Todd did still get stung a bunch Tony Todd plays the original Candyman

and he wrote it into his contract that he had to get a thousand dollar bonus every time he got stung and he got stung 26 times so made 26 000 damn whoa 26 bee stings would suck yeah but i mean it'd be worth 26 grand i guess i would get stung 26 times by bees to get i think it was like not all at once too it was like over the course but wait that's actually fascinating that that you can even do that like that you can write

anything into a contract obviously but whoever thought of that and like negotiated it what a strange thing where it's like we know we're negotiating down the amount he gets per piece sting that's what we're in the middle of right now so weird yeah is tony todd in this one? Briefly. Okay. And I think that's probably because they wanted to distance a bit from it. I'm not sure. And also, Tony Todd is older. Older, yeah. But I'll say more on this after we talk about it. Because I think there's a reason why he's not in it more.

I'd be curious how Tony Todd feels about this Candyman and I bet I could find out if I looked. Yeah, I'd be interested too. Okay, so I think let's watch the trailer. Have you guys seen this trailer? No. Maybe bits and pieces but probably not in its

entirety. Oh no. I don't like the face you're making. No, I think you're going to like it. Okay. This is a good trailer. I'm nervous candy man the urban legend is if you say his name five times while looking in the mirror he appears in the reflection and kills you who would do that candy man candy man candy man candy man Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Well, we're still alive. Let's go. Trina, you broke the door.

This isn't funny! I feel really connected to this neighborhood. Cabrini Green. It was the Projects. I just moved in around the corner. The old candy factory. I'm an artist. You look up a candy man. He's the monster. It's part of this neighborhood. Why are you drawn to this? I'm hoping to spread the story all about Candyman. The mirror invites you to summon him. The mirror invites you to summon him.

You should say his name. I dare you. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. No. Don't say that. Candyman. I think I made a mistake I brought him back

Candyman isn't real Something's happening to me He had a purpose for you. To be another one of his terrible stories. I guess he found me. I am the writing on the wall. The sweet smell of blood. Be my victim. This is not real real it's not real candy man

is it so good this looks so good oh. This looks way better than anticipated. I didn't know it was going to be that good. Oh, my God. It looks incredible. Oh, my God. The song choice. The song choice. The song choice.

It's an excellent trailer. And I think the thing about the movie that, like, really for me nia da costa is such a good director and it's like so it looks so good like visually oh i mean the performances are also good too i mean yaya abdul-matin second is so great too oh i love it it looks unbelievable like it looks really fucking good want to see it but it looks really scary but I want to see it, but it looks really scary, but I want to see it. I think you could, well, there's a, yeah, I mean, we'll talk about it. Also, it's just interesting, I was like, oh, Jordan Peele loves having a protagonist who's a photographer.

Like, even just, like, having the way he has the camera strapped, I was like, oh, yeah. I feel like that's, like, similar to how protagonists are, like, writers, too. It's like the protagonist is always just like an artist. Yeah. Wow.

Holy shit. It looks so good and very scary. Yikes. Also, just the idea of it being like an art piece. The fact that it's in a gallery. Oh, I am so excited to know what happens. I'm fucking stoked. I'm excited to tell you guys. Oh my god. Tell us. Tell us. Tell us. Okay. Let's just let's get into it. I used to love back to school

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semiotics graduate student Helen Lyle learns of the candy man a spirit who when a person says his name five times to a mirror appears and kills the summoner by using a hook attached to the bloody stump of his right arm I guess it doesn't explain what semiotics is she's like studying legends

urban legends yeah okay okay she is inspired to take on the project after learning about a woman named Clara who was murdered in her suburban home while babysitting. Helen also learns from two cleaning ladies that Ruthie Jean, a resident in the notorious Cabrini Green housing project, is rumored to have been killed by the Candyman and discovers there have been 25 similar murders in the area. there have been 25 similar murders in the area. Skeptical, Helen and her friend Bernadette Walsh repeat the Candyman's name to Helen's bathroom mirror, but nothing happens. Helen and Bernadette are working together on a thesis on how the residents of Cabrini Green use the Candyman legend to cope with hardship. She and Bernadette visit the scene of Ruthie Jean's murder, where Helen discovers a room where apparent offerings have been left for the Candyman.

Afterwards, they meet Ruthie Jean's neighbor, Anne Marie McCoy, a single mother raising her infant son, Anthony. Sorry, Henley. That evening, Helen and her husband, Trevor, have dinner with Professor Philip Purcell, an expert on the Candyman legend who exposits that the Candyman, born in the late 1800s as the son of a slave grew up to become a well-known artist who was highly sought after to paint portraits of wealthy white people. However, after he fell in love with and fathered a child with the daughter of one such family, her father sent a lynch mob after him. Oh, Jesus Christ. Once captured, they cut off his right hand and smeared him with honeycomb stolen from an apiary, attracting

bees that stung him to death. What the fuck? His corpse burned in a pyre and his ashes scattered across the land on which Cabrini-Green was eventually built. Oh my god. When Helen returns to Cabrini-Green, she is attacked by a man who calls himself the Candyman. After surviving the assault,

she identifies her attacker, who turns out to be the head of a gang called the Overlords. The police assume he is responsible for the murders. However, the real Candyman appears to Helen in a parking garage and hypnotizes her. He explains that because she has discredited his legend, he must shed innocent blood to perpetuate it. Helen blacks out and awakens in Anne-Marie's apartment covered in blood to find Anne-Marie's pet Rottweiler has been decapitated and her son Anthony stolen. The distraught Anne-Marie attacks Helen, whom the police arrest while she is defending herself.

After Trevor bails her out of jail, Helen looks at photographic slides taken during her first visit to Cabrini Green and finds that one contains the Candyman. He appears inside Helen's apartment and cuts her neck, causing her to bleed and pass out. Bernadette arrives at Helen's apartment, and when Helen comes to, she sees that the Candyman has murdered Bernadette. Framed for the crime, Helen is sedated and taken to a psychiatric hospital where she is kept in restraints. A month later, psychiatrist Dr.

Burke interviews Helen to prepare her for her upcoming trial. She attempts to prove her innocence by summoning the Candyman who appears and murders Dr. Burke, allowing her to escape despite being framed for Burke's murder. Helen then flees to Cabrini-Green to confront the Candyman and rescue Anthony. When she finds the Candyman is in his lair, he tells her that Oh, my God. real bees and so this is when tony todd had like real bees in his mouth oh my god he vanishes with anthony and helen awakes to discover a mural of the candy man and his lover who bears a striking resemblance to her the candy man promises to release anthony if helen helps him strike fear into cabrini green's residence however attempting to feed his legend the candy man reneges and attempts to immolate both helen and anthony in a bonfire the candy man is destroyed by the flames and helen saves anthony but dies from severe burns

the residents led by anne marie go to helen's funeral to pay their respects at home the guilt ridden trevor looks into the mirror and says helen's name five times whereupon helen's vengeful spirit appears and kills him with a hook in In the Candyman's former lair, a new mural of Helen dressed in white with her hair ablaze is seen, implying that she now belongs to the local folklore. Oh, okay.

Sorry, that was longer than I thought it would be. Okay. Just to give us some context. Will Helen be in this second movie she's like referred to okay sammy have you seen the original candy man i saw it like as a kid and i did i meant to rewatch it for this but i didn't and i'm sorry no that's okay i just wondered if how necessary it was going into the new one i don't think it's

super necessary but it definitely like refers to it a lot and I just find it interesting kind of yeah to know what it's talking about yeah especially since it's like trying to rewrite some of the lore in it and

because this movie's in theaters yeah it's I apologize if this is not a 100% accurate retelling, but I'm going to give you all the stuff you need. Okay, fantastic. You always do. Okay, so it opens with a scene of a young boy in Cabrini Green. This is a flashback. I think it said the 70s. I can't remember.

is a flashback i think it said the 70s i can't remember and he's there's like cops parked outside the housing projects watching this little boy as he takes his laundry into the laundry room and the laundry room has like a huge hole in the wall with just like darkness behind it and you can't see what's in there and it's like the laundry room's in a basement so it's already creepy this little boy's in there he's probably like 10 what am i saying he's probably he's definitely eight doing his own laundry at eight really impressive and uh he's creeped out by the hole in the wall. And the lights is one of those timer lights where you turn it for X amount of minutes. Why do those exist?

I know. For energy saving, but I don't like it. It's creepy. It's definitely a creepy kind of light. And so the timer goes out and it's not too dark, though, because it's daytime. So there's it's just like not brightly lit um and then out from the hole comes a little piece of candy tossed at the little boy okay that's enough and he like he's scared he he looks very suspicious and nervous

but kind of approaches it and then we see the form of a man kind of laughing coming out of this hole. And he is dressed in the Candyman look, which is like a long coat with a white kind of fur collar thing. And he has a hook hand, but it is not tony todd it is a different man um and as he comes out the little boy screams and we see the cops from outside hear the scream and run in and then it cuts and we get to our opening credits. The opening credits are so cool. They're, I mean,

it's like Chicago city shot from like street level looking up. And so it's kind of like your upside down type thing. They're really cool. And there was trivia that said that the opening credits of the original candy man featured moving footage of Chicago filmed from above. In this version, the credits features footage of the city

filmed from below. Footy. Footy of the city. That's what you say if you're in the industry, you call it footy. We call it footy. It's a good footy of this. But yeah, the opening credits did stand out to me as very cool.

And the music in them is really cool as well. Then we meet Troy and Grady, who are a couple, and they're going to dinner at Troy's sister's house. And Troy's sister is Brianna, who is Tiona Paris. And her boyfriend is Anthony, who is Yahya Abdul-Mateen II. And their apartment is, like, incredible. Everyone, and they're all so hot. Oh, my God. That was my biggest takeaway from this trailer.

It looked beautiful, but also because everyone in it was so beautiful. Oh my god, they're all so hot. And I'm just like, this life, what do they do for jobs that they can live in this beautiful apartment? I'll tell you what they do. Brianna is a art gallery director. This is funny. I have a friend named

Brianna. I do think they make good money. Yeah, I think they do. But I have a friend named Brianna and I feel like I always go back and forth between brianna and brianna so sorry i do that and also that makes me think of rihanna who's her name is rihanna and but everybody just says rihanna but she says rihanna rihanna oh she does yeah oh i didn't know that so yeah she is an art gallery director and anthony is an artist and um they're having dinner and this is where there's like a ton of exposition about cabrini green they live just outside of cabrini green in this kind of like luxury homes that have been built up next to them. Cabrini-Green has been abandoned and they're talking about gentrification and how, you know, white people built the projects

and then tore them down when they realized they built the ghetto or something like that. And so that people could gentrify and move in and they could make money and whatnot. And there's like a ton of exposition about it. in and they could make money and whatnot. And there's like a ton of exposition about it. And we see that Anthony's art on the walls is like closeups of black men's chests with like nooses hanging around their necks.

That's like what some of his main pieces are. And just we'll come back to that later. And so after they have their dinner, Troy says, do you guys want to hear a scary story? And Brianna says, no. Made me laugh. A lot of respect for that choice. But everybody else does. So he tells the scary story and he tells basically the story of Helen Lyle.

And he's like, this is real. It's a true thing that happened. This white woman like cut the head off of a Rottweiler and killed like 26 people, ended with her stealing a baby to sacrifice in the fire and tells this whole spooky story. And it's also done with the kind of I don't know if you guys saw that puppet thing that they did for Candyman. Oh, yeah. It's really cool, like animation, little puppet show that they do. And so they kind of do a little flashback via that. You know, Brianna's like, I'm literally going back and forth each time I say it, Brianna.

She's like, no, that's, you yeah no that sounds like bullshit but anthony seems kind of interested in this it's kind of catching his attention and after uh troy and grady go home anthony's like googling it and says he was like telling the truth this really did happen she really did cut the head of a rottweiler like this is so weird reads that you know it all took place in cabrini green which is right near and so he takes his camera to go uh basically explore the abandoned projects and as he is taking photos he gets stung by a bee and he's he's walking around it's creepy i mean anything abandoned is pretty creepy and he meets a man named william burke who is like the only person there and i guess he owns a laundromat nearby this is um Coleman Domingo. Okay. And he basically tells him the story

of Candyman. He's like, oh, you're here looking for Candyman and gives him some more backstory. And then we flash back to the opening scene. And the little boy was this man, William Burke. So, that's a young William Burke.iam burke and he says basically what happened was razor blades started appearing in candy and there was a man that lived here named sherman fields who had a hook hand that gave candy to children and we see after he screamed um and the police ran in he says something like that's when i i i saw the like true horror and we like you don't see it but they basically beat sherman fields to death after the after young william burke screams and and then after after he dies razor blades are still found in candy so it's basically like he wasn't it wasn't him did you ever on halloween were you told to like never you know i mean this

is also just good sense but like oh you know only pre-packaged candy can we try to give it because but i feel like if the thought was like because there there's going to be razor blades in it. Yeah, it's definitely a prevalent urban legend. And just like, has that ever happened? One that I got a lot where I grew up was that there was razor blades in the slides at playgrounds, like, oh, Jesus, into the slides. And so I'd always that. Yeah, fucking scared me so bad. So I'd always check slides before I went down them at like 10 years old or something. I'm like, well, I don't want to get all fucking sliced up by razor blades.

So that's so scary. That's I never heard that. Now I'm going to be like worried about that. Looking at slides. Check the slides. Check the slides. Look, we're just saying check them. It's just good sense.

It's just good sense to check the slide. Oh, my God. check them it's just good sense it's just good sense to check the slide oh my god so then he says now the myth is that basically because he was wrongfully killed now the myth is that if you say candy man five times into a mirror he'll come he'll appear and kill you this guy yeah this guy that was murdered by the cops? Well, he's, I mean, this is where I get a little confused. And so, I think

we'll talk more about it later. Okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. And so, Anthony finds this all really fascinating, and he goes home, and like, previously we've seen that he hasn't had like a hit art piece in a while. And so he's feeling inspired and he starts making a piece about Candyman. And there's a scene with a gallery owner, a white guy who is kind of saying like oh like your last pieces were so good speaking of

the pieces of the like the black man's chest with like a noose visible and so this is where it's like commenting on the like black trauma as entertainment and so it's like yeah we want more like that like what that the emotion that conveys is it conveys is so powerful and it's like just kind of like gross gross and um so anthony says like he's he's making a pro like project about um cabrini green and the projects and the white gallery owner's like yes like i love that i love that and at home anthony tells brianna about it too and says you know i've found out this this legend that if you say candy man five times into a mirror and he starts going candy man candy man and again she's like no no no fuck that don't do that my kind of woman but he does it he does it five times but

nothing happens to her to a mirror well you know actually that's there's like one of their walls is reflective glass so maybe he wasn't intentionally doing it into a mirror um but nothing seems to happen but we do see candy man's reflection ever so blink and you'll miss it in in like the glass wall of the house. Nobody notices. It's just standing there. So he works on a piece. He finishes a piece that has it's basically like a mirror cabinet that you look into the mirror on the outside and can open it.

And there's some of his paintings of Candyman. And it has the little description next to it on the wall in this little gallery show. And there's so much like art talk in this movie that really also confused me just because I'm like so not in the art world. And just the way that an art critic speaks, it'm like so not in the art world and just the way that an art critic speaks it's like so pretentious and i think it's like it's making fun of that um but yeah anyways i would feel the same way i know nothing about how to speak about art yes no uh but so we see like a teenage girl looking at the piece and taking photos of it. And then an art critic, a white lady, is looking at his piece and he comes up next to her and is saying like, oh, like, what do you think? Like, it's supposed to invite you in to say his name.

and she's kind of a dick about it. I can't remember what she says because again, it's like art speak. But one thing that she says is when he's talking about kind of the commenting on gentrification, she says, well, your kind is why gentrification happens. And he's like, excuse me? And she's like, artists.

Like they're the ones that move into cheap housing and popularize it. And it's just this very cringy scene of him just wide-eyed looking at this fucking bitch. And so this conversation doesn't go well. He's clearly trying to impress this critic, but she's clearly awful. And the gallery owner is talking to brianna who is i think like anthony's rep again i don't know how the art world works but it's like kind of like the gallery owner is like doing this as a favor to her too or is like and he's a little stressed

that the piece isn't doing well so there's some tension there of like i hope you know anthony can make a better piece than this or something like that i don't know but is the is the goal it's for someone to buy something like that i guess i don't. It seems like... I think so. Okay. So, yeah. The piece is not, like, super well received and tensions kind of build, leading to Anthony

and the gallery owner guy getting in kind of a fight and Anthony and Brianna, like, leave. Anthony, like, storms out. He gets a little drunk too because he's he's like stressed that it's not doing well and um so they leave and we stay in the gallery as the show's over everyone's gone now and it's just the gallery owner and his girlfriend and it's nighttime now. Doors are locked. And they're kind of flirting and decide they're going to have sex in the gallery. And she has these little belt things where she attaches herself to him, which must be some sort of sex thing that I've just never seen.

And I've seen the Fifty Shades of Grey movies. Oh, yeah. You've been around the block. There's not a sex thing in the world that isn't in those movies. I thought so. But this is a little sex belt where you attach yourself to the person. But it seems like... Don't you need to take your clothes off?

Anyways, whatever. Interesting new sex accessory that I learned. Yeah, there's so whatever. Interesting new sex accessory that I learned. Yeah, there's so much. Interesting new sex accessory. So, so much to learn. And they're making out and kind of moving around the gallery and they pause in front of the mirror. And they pause in front of the mirror and that Anthony's exhibit and kind of start teasing each other, daring each other to say it. And they're kind of making fun of it, saying this is so stupid. Yeah, fine.

Like they do it. And so they say Candyman five times. Right, right. They're making making out. He's he's behind her. They're both facing the same direction and he's behind her. And so we see in the mirror reflection, we

see Candyman. And that's one cool thing about Candyman is that he doesn't appear in the actual physical space visibly. He's only visible in the mirrors, like a vampire, I guess. Well, opposite of a vampire. Oh, sorry. Opposite of a vampire. Opposite of a vampire i guess and opposite of oh sorry opposite of a vampire

opposite of vampire yep um so we see candy man in the mirror they don't see him and he is behind them and he uses his hook hand and slits the girl's throat oh shit and okay it happens really fast as they're like still like mid hooking up. And the gallery owner is like so, so caught off guard. He plays it pretty well. Like he's just like, is this what like is this real? Is this happening? He's so freaked out and like doesn't know like his brain is not comprehending that it's actually happening.

Which is how you would probably work. Like you'd be like, wait, what? Like nobody's here. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense. This doesn't make sense. He's looking around. He's not seeing anything. And then in another mirror, he sees Candyman.

And Candyman's walking along the back of the gallery using his hook to tear through a piece of art. So it's got a creepy cloth tearing sound effect. And he just starts freaking out and tries to run but he is attached to his now dead girlfriend with the belt oh right and so he's like panicking and trying to undo

these clasps and he gets it undone finally and runs for the door but it's locked and I think he needs a key and so he's just like banging on the door. And again, in the reflection, we see Candyman slice his fucking Achilles tendon. Oh, that's gross. And so he collapses, but he's still using his hands to hang on to the door handles.

And Candyman picks him up and is pulling him by his feet. But it's the way we see it is it's invisible. And so he's just being pulled by an invisible force and eventually is pulled all the way out of sight. And we just hear screaming. Yep. Yep. And the next day, Brianna comes into work at the gallery and finds them. And we get a look at the guy and his whole belly has been sliced open. And there's bees everywhere.

Bees buzzing all around them. She screams, calls the police. she screams calls the police and we cut to later um her at home with anthony and troy her brother watching the news like a news report about it and in the report they say two people were killed seemingly after saying, I think because they can tell that they were like killed with a hook or something. Somehow they like know that it's connected to the Candyman piece. And they say Anthony McCoy's piece on the Candyman saying that if you say Candyman five times,

like is maybe this is some kind of prank that someone thought that they would you know make that come to life more than this is more than a prank more than a prank i would not murder i wouldn't call a prank a brutal violent prank disgusting brutal prank i mean you gotta admit they got pranked pretty good pretty good oh my god and we see that anthony is like smiling and is excited that they have said his name on the news and so so he's bad now like he's been possessed or something like that implies the beasting on his hand is now looking nastier. It's like a big scab is forming and kind of a lot bigger than

you would think a beasting would be. It's like now taking up most of his hand. And Brianna's obviously very disturbed by the fact that he's excited that they said his name in this news segment. And he's like, that they said his name in this new segment

and he's like no no he's like obviously it's horrible it's horrible but like it's kind of cool it's good it's exposure it's just a prank it's just a fun prank um but yeah we are seeing that anth Anthony is definitely starting to act a little differently, getting like super preoccupied, a little obsessed with this kind of in the beginning. Him and Brianna are like this very ideal couple. And he's now kind of like tuning her out a bit and just very singularly focused on Candyman stuff and this myth getting like so wrapped up in it. And Brianna goes out to work one day and says, you know, don't forget you're supposed to go to your mom's tonight. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we see him.

He's painting all just painting and painting and painting. And he's painting a lot of black faces, like looking either disfigured or mutilated, like really haunting paintings. Very dark. And Brianna comes home that night and is all annoyed and says to him, like, you forgot about your mom. That was like the one thing I told you you're supposed to see her at seven. Now she's mad at me. She called me and he's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry about that.

And Brianna's seeing like some things different about him. And then there's like she has like a nightmare about Candyman that I can't remember now. But it's like a good a good dream sequence that makes it seem like Candyman's in the house with them. But she wakes up and it was just a dream. But like right where Candyman was in the dream, uh, Anthony is standing, it's like in their bathroom. And so she wakes up and sees that it's Anthony standing there and he's just

kind of glazed over in the eyes, rinsing his hand in the sink. And she like comes in and is like, Hey, like it's the middle, middle of the night. and she's like what's going on are you okay and he's like kind of just grunting doesn't really answer her and just slowly like pushes her out of the bathroom he's like i'll be out in a minute like closes the door by like he's definitely acting not normal not normal um so the next day brianna tells him that she has like

they have an important dinner that night some other gallery owner from new york is going to be in town and she's like please don't please don't mess this up but anthony has a some a meeting with the art critic from the show where she now wants to interview him on his piece and on the tragedy that happened after it and so he goes to her house and um she's all now interested in him and is like, so tell me more about like Candyman and is just like changed her tune from earlier. And she's now like, yeah, this is so fascinating. And he, because of the prank, because of the brutal prank that happened afterwards. Yes. Cause of the really successful prank.

If I knew that just doing a prank like this would lead to so many good things I would be pranking people left and right watch out world Henley's gonna learn the power of pranks brutal pranks we don't often talk about how much pranks can be good this is like a good prank

prank but in this conversation he dares her to say it. And he's like, yeah, it's like I just find it really fascinating. And have you done it? Like, I dare you to do it. And she's like, oh, I'm not going to do that. She gets up, goes to the bathroom.

And we see him start picking at the scab on his hand, which has now spread even further. And it's probably up to his wrist. His whole hand is like a scab. This looks very gross. And he picks at it and peels part of it off. We're getting some body horror. This is very reminiscent of the fly. Oh, God.

And he peels off a piece and it like starts like bleeding and pussing and he like walks over to her bar table there's a towel there and he wraps his hand up in the towel like he he seems like also grossed out by it and we see in the bathroom her looking in the mirror tempting tempted to say it we don't see if she does or not we go back out to him and he's like she's been in there a little too long and he like walks into the hallway and at the end of the hallway is a mirror and he sees Candyman in it. And he ducks it like blocks his face like he's scared. And Candyman in the mirror does the same. And so he starts walking up to it. And Candyman is his reflection.

So it's mirroring him. It still looks like the man we saw in the beginning. So it's mirroring him. It still looks like the man we saw in the beginning, but he is just moving exactly in tune with Anthony. Got it. Is Candyman wearing the iconic jacket with the trim and all that? Yes. Okay. freaked out. And then the art critic comes out of the bathroom, kind of a jump scare and startles him and can see that he's very freaked out all of a sudden and is kind of like, what's going on? And he's like, you know, nothing. I don't feel good. I got to go. And he leaves and she looks confused. And we're thinking she must not have said candy man five times in the mirror and then

this amazing shot it's like a drone shot from outside of her apartment she lives in like um some sort of high-rise building and this drone shot just pulls out from her apartment and we see her basically be murdered by an invisible man and so she's like lifted up and her neck is broken and she's kind of like flung around the apartment but there's no like sound effects to it because we're not in the room with her so it's just i think this is in the trailer i think this shot's for a second the trailer and i was like what the hell is this but the shot goes on for a while like you see like her full it's probably that's probably a minute or maybe a little less but it's it's substantial of just like a very cool shot

um and we see anthony show up at the dinner with brianna and the other gallery owner that's in town at some swanky restaurant and his hands looking worse and worse he's kind of very distracted by it keeps like peeling up the little towel he's wrapped around and he's like still like picking at it and it almost looks like um like a tree trunk you know like it's like the texture of like bark. Yeah. Gross. No,

thanks. And do you guys know, this was just driving me crazy. This is not important, but what's the word of something turning into wood? Like calcifying is like turning to bone, right? Or just like hardening. But is there a word for when something turns to petrifying?

Isn't that. Petrifying. Isn't that turning to wood like the petrified forest maybe it's not i don't think it's true does yeah but i don't think it turns to i don't think there's a thing that like turns to wood okay well that would put my mind at ease because i tried to think of this there's anything that turns to wood i tried to think of this. I don't think there's anything that turns to wood. I tried to think of this. But wood turns into other things. Okay. Yeah. Well, listeners, if there is a word, let me know. Let us know.

If not, great. I can rest easy tonight because I didn't sleep a wink last night. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. Just like, what is it worth turning to wood? Turning to wood. What is it? All night long. And as they're at dinner, we see Brianna's looking, you know, annoyed because he's acting

real weird where she specifically said this dinner is important to her. He's... I said, don't be weird. You're being weirder than you've ever been before. This is exactly the opposite of what I said. Than you've ever been before. This is exactly the opposite of what I said. And then in the middle of the dinner, they all get notifications on their phone that the art critic has been found dead in her apartment.

And Anthony very suspiciously stands up. He's like, I gotta go. That's funny. Which is like so suspicious. never comes they don't like seem suspicious it never comes back they're like you do you do you you're being fucking weird so get out of here you just need some air um and so he heads to the library uh research montage is i mean it's it's research not as much of a montage but it's he does some research a research moment a research moment and it counts he starts looking up files about helen lyle and he wants to learn more about or he's able to i think track down her project because she was working on like a thesis and i think he tracks

down her audio recordings she's spoken to like a tape recorder so he's learning more about the things that she discovered and i think probably she was on a similar in a similar mental state as he is kind of a decreasing like getting a little feeling crazier and crazier type of thing. And so I think he's like hearing some of what he's going through in these recordings. And so he gets freaked out and he goes into, he, he gets up to leave and he gets into the elevator,

which every wall in the elevator and the ceiling are all mirrors. So it does that thing where there's mirrors on both sides and it looks like infinite rooms on both sides. And then the elevator stops suddenly and

very jerkily he falls down and in the ceiling he sees the reflection of Candyman again. He starts screaming, freaking out. And then the elevator doors open and it's a bunch of high school students. And he's on the floor, like his books falling over and screaming and like guarding his face. And then looks embarrassed and gets up and gathers his stuff and walks out.

And a few things about this scene. The fact that I hate how much wanting to be socially normal affects behavior because it happened to me even just later in this film where scary noises were happening behind me. And I was like, well, I don't want to turn around and embarrass myself when it's just like someone behind me and it's like so I guess I'll just sit here and die yeah I'd rather die than be than make like a faux pas a social faux pas and that happens so much where it's like you don't want to embarrass yourself so you just act against your instincts yeah that's not ideal I always think about that specifically and from did you guys remember a girl with dragon tattoo i never saw it oh okay well there's a part where

the like murderer basically invites someone in for like a coffee and long story short they end up in a bad situation the person was probably like nervous in the beginning right yeah and the murderer has this whole like monologue when they've got nervous in the beginning right yeah and the murderer has this whole like monologue when they've got them in the basement where they're like isn't it funny how like you knew i was probably the murderer but you just there was one part of you that thought maybe i might be embarrassed if i admit that so i'll just go in for the coffee i'm like don't you regret that now fuck that don't you regret that now? And I think about it all the time. I'm like, don't go in for the coffee. Yeah, let's stop that.

Let's make a pledge right here, right now. If something feels wrong, just don't worry about hurting the other person's feelings. That's much less of a mistake than if they are a dangerous person like your instincts are telling you. Just follow that.

Follow that. Just follow that. But then in terms of this movie, I feel like, or in this moment, it's like to be more like, I just felt very sad that he's like embarrassed of looking dumb when it's like, he's terrified.

And it's like, he's terrified people. Like, I think if he had stayed terrified, I've been like, Oh my God, help me. Like they wouldn't have helped. And so it is's like, he's terrified people. Like, I think if he had stayed terrified, I've been like, oh, my God, help me. Like, they wouldn't have helped. And so it is just like. Yeah, it's also high schoolers. It's a brutal group to be embarrassed in front of.

Oh, my God. The absolute worst. Other other thing. And just to say about that is I felt like it was a missed opportunity to have Candyman come from one of the further away rooms in the reflection. Like when you get a little like looks like infinite rooms. Have something spooky happen there. That'd be kind of fun. That'd be fun. Just a thought I had.

So he leaves the library and he goes back to William Burke at the laundromat to kind of ask for answers. This guy seems to know a thing or two about candy man and william tells him about um the candy man that we know from the 1992 that like tony todd candy man he basically says but well before he gets into that he says candy man isn't a he he's the

whole hive candy man is a way to deal with the fact that these things happen to us and that these things are still happening and so as he's saying this he basically explains that there's been many iterations of candy man and it's kind of flashing between the paintings that um anthony has been doing of each of these faces kind of match to each of the various iterations of candy man which sounds like each time he's summoned he might be someone new taking his place i'm not 100 sure but that's kind of what i think he was saying like it's not just one man it's it's like an energy that's like recycled type of thing. Got it. Okay.

That's a pretty cool explanation and a way to like do a sequel. Yeah. And so then we see that because there's like the high school student from earlier that was at the gallery show. We see this is the scene in the trailer. She goes, yeah, she's at school, at high school,

and her and four friends decide to say Candyman in the mirror five times. And it's just a fun murder scene. They all die. All of them die. All of them die. And it's another one that's filmed very cool because this black girl comes in, and they're kind of bullies to her.

They're all white girls, the five girls. And the black girl is in a stall and is just hearing things happen. And one of them drops a compact, like a makeup compact with a mirror in it. And so she can see from the stall kind of what's what she could see Candyman through that mirror. And like bees are buzzing around and blood's being splashed. And she's just hearing screams and saying, you guys, this isn't funny. So it's like it's a very cool scene. Very creative little way to show some murders.

And then. Anthony realizes that he has brought Candyman back. He's like, kind of is realizing the severity of the situation now. And he's like, Oh fuck goes home to Brianna. And, uh,

the, again, the, the scab is spreading. It's all up his arm now and like getting into his neck. It looks very bad. And he's getting, seeming a little unhinged like scared and has like an energy about him that is scaring brianna and he's saying i brought him back like uh this is really bad and she yells at him candy man isn't real i'll prove it to you and

turns and looks in a mirror and says like candy man candy man and he's that says no and he smashes the mirror and it's like a big scary thing for him to do like out of character and he like smashes the mirror down and she gets like way freaked out she's like stay away from me stay right where you're like don't come one fucking step close like you do not get to do that with me and like just leaves the room and leave leaves him there and goes to stay with her brother troy that is the right move yeah being that volatile and damaging property yeah it tends to be related to uh violence against people that's right and so at in this moment we get some backstory about brianna that her dad was also an artist who had a psychotic break and killed himself in front of her. So very traumatizing. Holy shit.

Oh, my God. She has seen some shit in her life. Wow. If I were her, I would not want to date an artist. So it's obviously incredibly triggering for her and then we see the next day anthony wakes up he has like passed out on top of the broken mirror and pulls a piece of the broken mirror out of his hand his nasty hand and uh then he see like his fingernails are all like black they've like died like his fingernails are all like black. They've like died.

Like his fingernails died. I don't know. They like look like when he's looking at them like what the fuck and touches them and they just slide off. No. Again, like in the fly. It's really nasty. But he finally decides to go to the fucking hospital. Should have done that a long time ago with this.

Yeah, I got stung by a bee and now my hand is dying. This looked pretty bad a few days ago. It just took, I guess, his nails sliding off like butter for him to decide to go to the hospital. So he goes to the hospital and the thing that the nurse says to him when he

gets in or when she sits down with him to examine him is, oh, welcome back. And he says, what? And he's like, I've never been here. I haven't been here before. And she's like, oh, like your chart says you were born here. And he's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, yeah, you your chart like shows him like you were born here at this hospital.

Wait. Yeah, I figured this out a while ago, I think. But I didn't want to say it. Oh, I didn't. Oh. Mm-hmm. Should we reveal it now? Yes. I was just like, what was that baby's name?

That you literally told me like an hour ago and then immediately told me the character name and i was like can't wait to find okay yeah no i clocked the baby's name when you were telling us the retelling and then you're like this guy's name is anthony and i was like feels like they're probably one of the same the baby this man. And also line up because it was the 90s, right? Yes. When it happened. When the movie came out. Yeah. He was taken by Candyman. So this movie takes place 30 years later.

Deeply traumatic incident to not remember or be told about by your mother. Wait, he doesn't remember that. Does he remember that he's from Cabrini Green? Is that like referenced? He doesn't remember that does he remember that he's from cabrini green is that like referenced he doesn't remember i believe his mother has maybe lied about his past so now he goes to his visit his mother who is vanessa williams who played um that the mother

in the original that rules she's so beautiful from the trailer yeah uh he confronts her and says like what's going on and she admits yes you are the the baby that you know candy man stole and i was i lied to protect you and didn't want to like we all took a vow to never say his name again. I thought that this would never come back to haunt us. Pretty wild that she didn't tell him when he created a Candyman art exhibit. I know. What? I would have placed that phone call. Yeah, she clearly hasn't been watching the news.

Remember how she's, her son is literally asking people to say Candyman's name. Daring them to. Publicly. Yeah. And so he looks. Publicly. Yeah. And so he looks very upset by this news. He goes to, back to Cabrini-Green, looking really defeated. Like, he's kind of resigned to his fate now. He's like, oh, fuck.

Like, I've done it and it can't be undone. I've done it and it can't be undone. And Brianna and Troy go back to Brianna and Anthony's apartment to pick up some clothes and stuff. And they're kind of like yelling like, Anthony, stay away. We're just picking stuff up. But then quickly realize he's not there. And they call. I think they might call his mom or something. However it happens.

Brianna gets worried. She's like, this isn't something's up and I need to figure out where he is because he's not acting himself. And she finds a pen from the laundromat in Cabrini Green and remembers that he had mentioned that he met a man at a laundromat there. And she's like, okay, I'll go to the laundromat and find out if this guy knows anything, William. And she goes to the laundromat and she goes into like the manager's office. And there's a few doors in the office. one of them is just staircase, a staircase down to like a very dark basement or like underground tunnels or something. And again, she just closed the door. She's like, nope, fuck that.

Smart, smart choice. Love to see that. And turns to leave. And then the other, the main door is locked and she can't get out now and she's jiggling the handle trying to get out and we see someone grab her from behind and pull her down into that staircase and

um then we flash back to again young William from the opening scene at same age presumably just a while after the opening scene took place. And he is in his house with his sisters. And they're saying, you're too young for this. Get out of here. This isn for you and close the door the bathroom door and we hear

them say candy man five times into the mirror um and then like a loud noise and he calls out to them no answer eventually pushes the door open and we just see blood everywhere bees everywhere. And he he looks up to the shower and a hook pulls back the shower curtain. And we see the same man from earlier that he had seen beaten to death. Oh, so that he maybe took the form of Candyman after being murdered by the police. OK, OK, that makes sense. Candyman after being murdered by the police. Okay. Okay.

That makes sense. And so we go back to present day and Brianna is tied up in an old, like abandoned church, the whatever the church in Cabrini green and William and Anthony are at the front of the church. Anthony is completely out of it. One of his eyes is like milky. Now the scabbing has spread to his basically whole side of his face. He looks basically not in his mind is just kind of grunting. seems to have some sort of like master plan here that i didn't fully understand but he reveals that he has uh called the police and that they will um they will gun anthony down and then that way he can create a new legend with Candyman as an instrument of vengeance rather than a symbol of black pain and suffering.

Which I'm not, I don't totally quite connect the dots here of this plan. But either way, he's trying to get Anthony killed to further the candy man myth. Yeah, I don't totally get it, but. Okay. And it's just a coincidence that he happened to have come back. Like, it's not like he orchestrated him, like, having this physical breakdown. Like, is he working for the candy?

Like, I'm confused. I think it's just like he has, he had maybe thought that it was done and like a closed book and he's like well now that it's happening again i have to control the narrative of it or something because i like yeah william because it's it's personal to him i don't know yeah okay sure sure all right sure i guess thought being like okay well if twice a black man who then becomes candy man is murdered by the police they turn candy man into like like, a vehicle for avenging those wrongful deaths as opposed to being lynched? I feel like, I mean, I really don't know.

I think it's pretty confusing the way that they do it. And I think part of it is just, like, a meta commentary of, like, that's what this film is doing. Like, this film is, like, we want to rewrite the story of Candyman in general as like not just about Black Pain and Suffering

and so I think it gets a little lost in the logistics of it I don't know unless I just missed something but I think it's like a little bit meta as well is maybe why it doesn't make as much like logical sense okay but so then we see william pulling out a fucking like hacksaw

like a table saw thing and he's like no but some part of the legends. You just got to keep the same. And he saws off Anthony's arm. What? And he pulls a nasty hook out of a box and what jams it into the stump. What the fuck? And you and ties wraps a belt around it and ties it real tight. And he's like, yeah, the cops are going to gonna get here and they're gonna gun him down like this and Brianna has the pen the laundromat pen

in within reach like fishes it out of her pocket so she's like she sees all this happening yes he's like telling her and he's and which is also confusing and I'll say why he's telling her in a minute but she is basically,

you know, fiddling to get her hands free, eventually gets them free and runs and, um, stabs him once, but just like enough to get away and makes a run for it. And William is chasing her and chases her through the, I think they're like underground tunnels.

It's very creepy and spooky and very dark. And she's running with like her cell phone light and he has a camera light. So it looks very cool, but it's also very scary. Eventually he catches up to her and she turns and takes the pen and stabs him through the eye with it he falls down falls backwards on his back and she just stabs him over and over and over and over and over in the face oh jesus fuck it's really gnarly and we hear anthony's voice say i think he's dead and she like turns and looks up and he's half himself half like dying like he's not he's not doing well and he collapses into her arms she's crying she's like she's like i'm sorry i'm sorry like and we hear the sirens the police

sirens coming and she's like they're almost here they're almost here like we'll get you to a hospital and uh she calls for them says like he's in here he's in here they come in and they shoot anthony and kill him and he's like lying like passed out already it's yeah not good horrifying and she's sobbing and they pull her into the back of, they put her in the back of a cop car and say, you know, we got a call that Candyman was here. Or the man that's like pretending to be Candyman or We saved you. And that's the story. Unless you want the story to be that you are an accomplice. He's your boyfriend. You guys did this together. So you tell me what's the story going to be.

Oh, that's fucked up. And you see her panicked, not knowing what to do. And she sees her reflection in the mirror, in the rear view mirror. And she says, Candyman, Candyman, Candyman, Candyman. And we see Candyman revived now as Anthony. Yeah. Okay. And we just see cops left and right being slaughtered by some invisible force.

And the cop that's in the front seat that was threatening Brianna is looking terrified, like, what the fuck is going on? And Candyman says, they say I will shed innocent blood, but you are far from innocent. But they will say that you are. And that's all that matters. Oh, which is really fucking sad. I don't know what that just hit me. But yeah, I don't know. Then it's kind of confusing because she's watching all this.

It's a really cool scene. And she turns a corner as he goes out of sight, and she is able to see him, and he has bees all over his head, so his face is not visible. It's just like a swarm of bees around the head as he guts another cop, slices him with a hook, and then he turns and walks towards her,

and the bees kind of clear, and we see that it's now Tony Todd, digitally de-aged like the Irishman wow and he says to her tell everyone and that's the end of the movie whoa whoa I'm a little confused

about Anthony's like physical whatever's happening to him throughout the movie. Because is it basically like the Candyman has found him and wants to kill him again? You know what I mean? The Candyman had taken him when he was a baby and then he like has been sort of marked since birth or more than he returned to the place. So he was like, aha, I got you again or something. Yeah. I mean, I I'll be honest that I'm pretty confused about all of it as well.

I'm going to read some articles because I bet there's there's articles that are going to sort of try to tell me what the deal is. And I do want to know. I am very intrigued. I listened to the culture happy hour about about it which I've just been loving pop culture happy hour lately and they had some really interesting things to say about it I just feel like

but one thing that they did say was that it like suffers from a third act kind of yeah like they don't know what to do necessarily yeah I think part of it is that it just is like very confusing yeah and it's clearly trying to say and do a lot which is cool but that is hard to achieve no matter what right damn um wow i intrigued. I feel like I could watch it

except for the part where he cuts off the arm and shoves a hook into it. That's where I also went. And I won't. And I think that's where you lost me. I think I'll probably see it again just because I feel like it is saying so much and I

would like to kind of decipher it more and more. It seems like it would be so much and I would like to kind of decipher it more and more it seems like it it would be um an interesting second watch knowing a little bit more about the original Candyman which I might also rewatch but yeah everybody that

isn't too scared go see it um well fuck yeah Sammy thank you so much for uh telling us that yeah it was a wild ride i'm glad to know about it yeah it was it was a good one and much anticipated and was very happy to finally be able to see it and there are as we've previously said a just slew of new releases coming so i think probably the rest of our september episodes will all be new releases which is fun wow oh my god well i love you guys so much love you guys love you so much and love you endlessly oh i like we haven't recorded in a

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