Too Scary; Didn't Watch - CHILD'S PLAY (LIVE!)
Episode Date: July 26, 2023This episode was recorded live at San Diego Comic-Con! A heads up there was an audio issue for the first 6 minutes or so, so apologies for that. But join us as we play with everyone's favorit...e possessed doll, Chucky! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
Hi, everyone. This episode was recorded live at Comic-Con. And before we get into it, just a few
things. Wanted to first thank those of you who were able to come so much. Seeing you there was
incredible. It was so, so cool. You were so supportive and wonderful and kind. And we just
can't even put into words how unbelievably grateful we are for all of you. And a little
note about the audio. This was recorded live. So the audio quality may sound a bit different than
what you're used to. And the first few minutes of the audio got a little bit wonky. So our
apologies for that. Hopefully it does not get in the way of your enjoyment of the audio got a little bit wonky. So our apologies for that. Hopefully it does not
get in the way of your enjoyment of the episode. We had so, so much fun doing this. Hopefully we'll
get to do more things like it in the future. But until then, and without further ado, please enjoy
the episode. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hello!
Hi! Welcome to Too Scared to Watch, the Horror Movie Cap Podcast for those too scared to
watch for themselves.
I'm Emily and I'm too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Kenley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that these two don't have to and wow, Comic Con you guys.
What a guy.
Do you guys like horror movies? Clap if you like horror movies.
I like horror movies. The clap if you like horror movies.
The clap if you are too scared, don't go near them.
Pretty even. Pretty even. Love to see it. Um, well,
we are gonna jump
right into this week's movie, which you
probably already know. We're doing
Child's Play.
And Henley, can you tell us a little bit about Child's Play?
Oh, you.
I've got the first stats.
Okay, do you have them?
I have them, but you need to go with me.
No, no, please.
All right, Child's Play.
Also, just as I like making you guys clap,
clap if you've seen Child's Play.
Great, great, great. Child's Play. Great, great, great.
Child's Play came out in 1988, directed by Tom Holland.
The Child's Play?
Yes, that Tom Holland.
The very same.
The young actor?
The actor in his 20s who plays Spider-Man.
Yes, that's the one.
Written by Don Mancini, John Laffia, and Tom Holland.
That Tom Holland.
That is talented.
Starring Katherine Hicks, Chris Sarandon, Alex Vincent, and Brad Dourif.
And Emily and I both watched this movie. And he's getting braver and braver.
Yeah.
Thank you, thank you.
He's getting braver and braver.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I was so, I've been wanting to do this movie for so long.
I have never seen it, obviously, but I did see the Goosebumps episode where there's a doll that comes alive.
And man, that scared me so, so, so, so, so badly.
And so I'm just really hoping that this doesn't give me nightmares in the same way.
What were everyone's thoughts on Chucky in particular? I feel like
he's cute. Everyone
is pretty cute.
I tried to dress him. I thought he was hot.
Because of Pennywise
face. I love Pennywise.
She loves a redhead.
No, I think, I, look, you only
see the picture of him being really gross and creepy
with, like, the scars and, like, and
he's, when he's just a little regular doll at the beginning he's pretty cute.
I like get it.
No sexual awakening like with Casper though.
That's not happening.
No.
Sure.
It's a completely different situation.
Should we talk about some trivia?
Yes.
Some trivia.
Okay, great.
So we got a 72% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 58% on Metacritic, and a 6.6 on IMDb.
Between the six and the seven?
Great, it's a 6.6.
Pretty standard.
Pretty standard.
$9 million budget, and made $44.2 million in the box office.
Not bad.
I'm curious to know the cumulative gross of all the Chuck E. things.
It just keeps going and going.
I think I know it off the top of my head.
What?
What an insane thing to know off the top of your head.
I guess I was really looking at that Wikipedia page
and it just happened to have that on there.
And I think it's like 309 million-ish.
Whoa.
Can't bump it up to 10.
It's in the low 300 million
because it's like the lowest in the franchises.
Really?
As far as Halloween and
T-Shirts.
I think we're going to change that today.
Yeah, we're going to make it
so much fun today, guys.
Okay, so
yeah, this is the first movie in the franchise.
There are eight films total and a TV
series. Chucky's
full name is Charles Lee Ray, which is
derived from the names of notorious killers
Charles Manson, Lee Harvey
Oswald, and James Earl Ray.
Genius touch there.
Okay, this is
one of my favorite ones. It took 11
different people to control Chucky
with a different person handling each
part of his body, from his legs
to his eyebrows. I feel like that comes across.
It looks really good!
I mean the world of practical effects is infinitely more interesting than the world of special effects.
Yeah. I mean that is crazy. 11 people from one of the dolls? I love behind the dolls. And the doll is smaller.
So where were they all? Yeah where were they located? Where were all of them? It's like Sesame Street
Muppets. They're like down below somewhere. Yeah, down below. Yeah, they're called down below.
Okay, a couple more.
Ed Gale, an actor with dwarfism, was hired to play Chucky for the fire scene.
Since he was around 30% taller than the doll, the filmmakers created a living room stage that was 30% bigger.
A lot of effort there.
Love that.
Unfortunately, while filming the scene, they set him on fire.
Oh, my God.
So that's unfortunate.
That is unfortunate.
If only they put as much effort into not setting him on fire.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
So casting what ifs.
For Chucky, these are great.
John Lithgow was considered.
Gary Oldman, also considered.
Very serious actor.
And Jessica Walters.
They actually did record Jessica Walters reading some of Chucky's lines, but they did not use them.
So funny.
I want to hear those.
I do, too.
But Roger is great.
Great casting there.
Okay, last one.
Despite his reputation as a hater of all things horror,
our boy Raj, Roger Ebert,
he gave a positive review to this film.
Wow.
Shocking.
Roger is tough.
Can we come in, please?
He is tough, please.
It's great.
Okay, I'm excited.
I'm excited to hear about it.
I have no idea what happened.
Does he come alive?
No, but 11 people move his little dead corpse around.
No, I mean, should we get a clap if you want to hear the movie?
Okay, Hen, are you ready?
I'm ready.
We open on the nighttime streets of Chicago.
We're in the middle of a gunfight.
The gun sound effects are true, like little lasers, like pew, pew.
It's some of the wildest gun sound effects I've ever heard.
We see a cop in a big, big turtleneck sweater running through the streets of Chicago, shooting, trying to get this guy.
He says to his partner, I got the strangler.
I got him.
We see the strangler getting away and we see his getaway van leave him behind. He goes, Eddie, no,
leaves him behind. So he's stranded, runs into, shoots his way into a closed toy store,
gets in the toy store. Cop gets in. It's a real cat and mouse. We're hiding. We're trying to find
each other. He ends up, the strangler ends up getting shot in the chest. So he's, he actually says, oh my God, I'm dying.
So he, he is not going to make it out of this one, but he's still eluding capture.
He starts crawling through this toy story. He keeps saying, I got to find somebody.
I got to find somebody. What do I do? What do I do? I don't know no um i gotta find somebody and he has a he topples
way huger than any human ever has into a stack of good guys dolls these are the dolls that you
know which doll i'm talking about and pulls him to the ground and he has this moment where he looks
into the eyes of this doll and sort of goes like, hmm.
This could work.
This could work.
I said I got to find somebody, but this could be fun.
And he grabs the doll with his bloody hands out of the case and puts his hands on him and starts chanting an incantation.
I was so thrown by that.
I was really not expecting this opening scene.
I don't know how I thought Chucky
came to be, but it was not this.
It was not this. And I'm with you on that.
I didn't think it was this either.
And he puts his hands on the doll and he starts
saying this incantation and the sky
turns dark and big clouds
are coming and lightning is striking this
toy store. Gorgeous. Has a big, beautiful
glass ceiling like
it's completely stunning we see lightning above the ceiling the cops looking around he still
doesn't for some reason know where the guy is even though he's been laying on the ground chanting
but he's still moving through the toy store trying to find him and lightning strikes through the glass ceiling, shatters the glass ceiling, explodes the toy store.
Fire.
All the windows blow out.
The dust settles the cop unscathed.
Hey, who needs Barbie?
Who needs Oppenheimer?
We got dolls and explosions.
We got dolls and explosions.
It's happening right here.
Those movies?
Who cares?
And that cut, too.
A cute little kid.
Probably what?
Six?
I think they tell us that he's six, but eight's a great guess.
Eight's a great guess.
Six.
My first thought is this kid is abandoned.
He's making himself breakfast, watching.
He's pouring a massive bowl of cereal with a mountain of sugar on top, and he's
watching the Good Guys TV show, and he sees a commercial for the Good Guys doll, which is the
doll that we saw. This commercial, I don't have time to get into it. It's completely insane. It
looks like the guy in I Think You Should Leave that's like, know what you're doing before you
come out here. It's like a Good Guy version of that. Anyway, I talked about it, even though I said I wouldn't. And he wants the good guy's doll.
That's the commercial.
And we go, and we realize it's his birthday.
He says his mom comes out, gives him his presents, doesn't get a good guy's doll.
It's his birthday.
He's making his own breakfast.
Well, it's too early.
I have a question.
He's making his mom breakfast in bed on his birthday.
This kid works too hard.
I was a little confused by that.
She also is pretty pissed that he wakes her up.
She's like, ah, it's 6.30.
It's his birthday.
6.30.
As a parent.
Reasonable.
Pretty reasonable.
She's a single mom.
Let's cut her some slack.
Wait, is this the mom, the mom?
Is this the mom from Seventh Heaven?
This is the mom from Seventh Heaven.
Great, great, great.
Okay.
And now I know what you mean when you say the mom.
Yes, it's the mom.
It's the TV mom. And it's his birthday you mean when you say the mom. Yes, it's the mom. It's the
TV mom. And
it's his birthday, but he doesn't get the good guy
doll. He just gets a little tool set.
He's sad. So at work
that morning. More work. More work for him.
Tool set. That's fair.
He's working so hard.
This kid does nothing but work.
At work, her work,
her friend runs in and says,
there's a peddler in the alley selling a good guy's doll.
So she runs out, buys the good guy's doll from a peddler.
Because I've been thinking, like, this doll has got to have bloody handprints all over it.
Like, we know it's the doll.
We saw him put bloody hands on this doll.
Doll's clean.
I guess the peddler cleaned it off.
But when the mom goes back into work, her boss gets mad at her for leaving,
tells her, you're going to have to work tonight.
So her friend says, I'll babysit, no problem.
Okay.
What could go wrong?
There's going to be a problem.
There's going to be a problem.
So that night we see, oh, the kid's name is Andy, by the way.
Cute.
And he's so cute.
And he's really good in this, I thought.
He's pretty cute.
There were moments where I was like, I don't know if I'm buying it.
And then he sold me. And then he sold me.
And then he sold me.
The child also, the real-life child, working very hard, working a job.
Kids shouldn't work.
Kids should not work.
So at home that night, he's playing with his Chucky doll.
The doll introduced himself.
Hi, I'm Chucky, and I'll be your friend till the end.
He's thrilled about it.
They're playing with the little tool set.
While the news comes on in the background, Chucky turns his little be your friend till the end. He's thrilled about it. They're playing with the little tool set while the news comes on in the background.
Chucky turns his little head
to watch the news and a news
report says that Eddie something
the partner of the
strangler escaped.
Eddie Caputo. Sorry, Eddie Caputo.
How could you forget?
Sorry, partner of serial killer
Charles Lee Ray escaped from the
prison or something.
And more on the 9 o'clock news.
It's time for Andy to go to bed.
And Andy says,
Chucky says he wants to watch the 9 o'clock news.
Chucky wants to watch the 9 o'clock news.
And Aunt Maggie, who's his mom's friend who's babysitting,
is like, oh, sure he does.
Turns the TV off, picks Andy up,
puts him in bed, dragging Chucky forcefully along into the bedroom.
Shuts the door.
Time for bed.
She's cleaning up in the kitchen.
Here's the news come on.
Walks over there.
Chucky is sitting in front of the television.
Uh-oh.
She grabs Chucky, brings him back into the bed.
She says, Andy, I told you you can't put on the news.
And you turn the news on and put Chucky in front of it.
And he's like, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. And of course she doesn't believe him. She says, time, I told you you can't put on the news. And you turn the news on and put Chucky in front of it. And he's like, I didn't do it.
I didn't do it.
Of course, she doesn't believe him.
She says, time for bed.
Shuts the door.
Goes back out.
Some time passes.
She's sitting, waiting out the night, babysitting.
She is reading a book and watching a movie at the same time.
Hey, I feel like I can relate.
I do so much stuff while I'm watching movies.
Do you read a book?
No, I guess not. But I'm reading full things on my phone. I do so much stuff while I'm watching movies. Do you read a book? No, I guess not.
But I'm like reading full things on my phone.
I guess that's true.
If it's another screen, it doesn't count.
Okay.
Okay.
Fair enough.
And so she starts hearing little noises around.
She's getting a little creeped out.
We start to hear little like, like little like pitter patter of tiny feet, but she turns
nothing's there.
We hear breathing.
It like truly
sounds like a little dog panting.
And everywhere she looks, she doesn't
see anything. She doesn't see anything.
Thinks, oh, I'm just getting myself too
worked up. Everything's
fine. Turns around. Tiny little
toy hammer smacks her in the head.
Knocking her back.
She stumbles. She stumbles.
She grabs, grabbing, trying her hardest,
slams into a window, breaks it, falls to her death.
What?
That was so fast.
The impact is crazy, too.
She almost explodes onto a car.
She must be so strong.
She falls hard enough to smash through an apartment window
and break a car in half. Wow. And I feel like she's only like... hard enough to smash through an apartment window and break a car in half wow
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Which is like not that high.
Oh, yeah, I don't know. It's a big crazy death.
That night, mom, her name is karen mom is karen yes karen sounds right she uh she comes home oh my god maggie's dead this is a whole there's a detective there the same detective
we saw on the turtleneck in the beginning oh wow, wow. Okay, great. He had seen some child-sized footprints on the
counter in, and it suspects that it was Andy. She thinks that her six-year-old son is a murderer.
And she is not having it. She's like, please, I need to be with my son. This was a very traumatic
thing, which of course, and sends the cops out. And she's sitting with Andy in his room
saying, are you okay? I know that was really scary what happened. Um, and he says, it's, it's okay. Um, I've, I've got, I've got
Chucky and she's like, Oh yeah. Uh, what, what does Chucky say to you? And she's Chucky told
me that his name is Charles Lee Ray and that he was sent from heaven by daddy to hang out with me.
Why did he give his real name? It's a great question.
You can put yourself in a doll, but you can't come up with a fake name. Yeah, he's like, listen, kid.
And she says, oh, that's nice. What else does Chucky say? And she says,
Andy says, he said that Aunt Maggie was a real bitch who deserved what she got.
Oh my God.
And the mom says, Auntie, that's terrible.
Why would you never say that?
It would be very troubling to hear in that moment. I would be troubled.
And so he says, I'm sorry.
I won't.
She says, Chucky's just a doll.
He's just a doll.
Don't make up stories.
He goes, I'm sorry.
I won't make up stories anymore.
She shuts the door, sends him to bed, and he turns to Chuckie and says,
you were right, she didn't believe me.
Next day at school, Andy, six, mind you, is dropped off at school.
My mom just says, are you sure you're okay?
You didn't have any bad dreams about Aunt Maggie?
No, you're good to go to school?
Okay, see ya.
Drops him off.
He's like, that's okay, I got Chucky.
And she said, Chucky's just a doll, right?
And he says, Chucky's just a doll.
Great.
We watch her say, okay, goodbye, start walking down the street.
He walks in the door, turns around, walks out, walks down the street.
I'm like, there are no adults at the door of this elementary school.
We're just letting kids walk in and out.
He walks out.
He starts taking Chucky on a tour of Chicago.
They take the train
together he's a little child sitting with a little doll completely unsupervised i've never been to
chicago maybe they don't care about that there um it's the 80s yeah it's the 80s that's what it is
and he's just walking through town we see he every now and again he'll like lean over to chucky like
chucky's whispering in his ear so we're not hearing any Chucky talk but they got something going on so clearly Chucky is
navigating him through Chicago and um they get to an abandoned building um and Andy says I gotta go
Chucky you wait here I gotta go take a leak and he he goes off away to go pee in the snow and when he comes
back, Chucky's gone
and we, again,
we go into this house. There's a lot of rats.
I love rats.
That sounded like I like to eat rats.
A lot of
cutie little rats crawling around.
But we, once again, the little
pitter-patter of Chucky feet.
And presumably he's just working really hard to like run around in this little doll body.
Yeah.
And we see him turn on, it's a tiny little hand, turn the gas up in the oven.
And then once again, house explodes.
What?
Whole house explodes.
Oh, I should have mentioned an important thing, which is this is the house of his partner who had escaped.
Eddie Caputo.
Sorry, once again.
Eddie Caputo.
Eddie Caputo.
Eddie Caputo.
Got it.
Rest in peace.
And so the house explodes.
Eddie Caputo is dead.
Cut to the police station.
Now they really suspect this kid because they found this kid at another murder scene.
So it's the same detective as before.
His name is Mike, Detective Norris.
Chris Sarandon, who I only know
as Prince Humperdinck,
so that was all I was thinking
the whole time.
I looked it up because I was like,
it must be Susan Sarandon's brother
because they kind of look alike.
They have like a siblings or dating thing.
It's her ex-husband.
Siblings or ex-husband? Siblings or ex's her ex-husband siblings or ex-husband siblings or ex-husband um yeah yep yep but humperdinck for you know other
other context but um so they've got andy in a little you know two-way one way we can't get
into it uh observation mirror room and um he's there with Chucky and he keeps saying,
Chucky did it. Chucky, Chucky, tell them
what you did. Tell them.
Mom comes in and she says,
Andy, you really have to tell
the truth now because if you don't tell the truth, they're
going to take you away from me. Horrible.
And she's trying
to get Chucky. He's like, Chucky, say something. Say something.
He's punching Chucky. Chucky won't
say anything. And this child psychologist on the other side of the mirror says, I think I've seen more than enough.
I think we should take Andy with us for a couple of days.
And we'll talk about it.
But they bring him to child prison.
Yeah.
It's really insane.
I was really shocked.
She's just like, oh, OK.
It looks like fucking Shutter Island where they put this kid.
It's wild.
Really crazy.
So they take
andy away for a few days and so we see the mom come home that night looking very upset she's
got the chucky doll she puts him on the couch in front of her and she's like say something to me
like it's just like let's see if you are really what my kid says you are of course he just goes
hi i'm chucky and i'll be your friend at the end. And she's like, yeah, I knew it. Okay, great. Goes into the kitchen,
picks up the box from the good guy's doll that she never threw out, and is like looking
at it, and just really a single mom at the end of her
rope, and normal single mom stuff.
And two batteries, still
pristinely wrapped in plastic, drop from the box.
And then what happens, Sammy?
Oh, my God.
She is shocked and stunned, as we all are.
We all are stunned.
What could this possibly mean?
And she seems to take it immediately, like, oh, well, I guess it's all true.
Where I'd be like, oh, it must have other batteries.
Yeah.
But so she sees Chucky sitting on the living room table, goes out, slowly approaches, opens up that little battery compartment.
And it is empty.
His head swivels around one more time, scares her.
Hi, I'm Chucky.
Want to play?
She drops him, tumbles under the couch.
Very funny.
Just like a little tuck and roll.
He just goes like.
And she picks him back up and is shaking him now.
Like, talk, talk.
I know you can talk.
Show me that you can talk.
He's not talking now.
So she turns on the fireplace and threatens to throw him in the fire.
Says, talk or I'm going to throw you in the fire.
And he bursts to life.
His face goes from being like, to
it's like, the
11 people doing their work, you can see
it. Yeah. And he
says, you stupid bitch, you filthy
slut, starts
cursing at her, she screams,
drops him, obviously it's very shocking.
It's very shocking.
It would be so shocking.
Yeah. But it gives
him enough time to
scuttle away. He gets out of the house.
He bites her. Oh, he bites her.
He bites her arm big,
nasty. Kind of looks like a Twilight bite,
to be completely honest. It doesn't look good.
Yeah. Not a vampire bite, a Twilight bite.
So, she goes out, tries to go after him but he gets away so she tracks down uh detective norris are we calling him mike well let's call him mike let's
call him mike first name basis she tracks down mike and is frantic like andy wasn't lying it's
real chucky's alive and he of course does not believe
her either and she shows him the bite they're like does this look like i'm faking it he's like
all right lady what is going on still not on board but it's clear that she's gonna pursue
the truth and she's like fine i'm gonna go to the place the to the peddler i got it from and find out more information gets in a cab and drives away he kind of rolls his eyes i must serve and
protect you know that sort of thing dangerous dangerous area so he follows her there and
they track down the peddler and you find out information that he got the doll from, you guessed it, the burned down toy store.
And Mike is like, well, that's where I killed Charles Lee Ray.
And I feel like pretty quickly, Karen is like, so Charles Lee Ray is Chucky.
Well, first, yeah, she puts two and two.
But she also says, why didn't you tell me that?
And it's like, why would he tell you?
It's completely irrelevant.
You're strangers.
You're strangers.
That's a different case.
I didn't tell you everything about me.
Her son already said Charles Lee Wright.
Yes.
And she clocked it.
I mean, yeah, she's going to put that together.
Yeah.
A mother always knows.
She's great intuition.
So strong.
And he tells her that the lightning had struck the building.
And so she's like, oh, there must have been some little voodoo spell.
Hey, look, laugh all you want.
She was right as hell.
And so now Mike is driving her home.
And she's saying, did anything, did he, Charles Lee Ray, say anything to you that night?
And he says, he said he was going to kill me
and Eddie Cabuto and he's already killed one of them and so Karen is like well you're next
obviously you can't go home it's not safe and he disregards this is like all right whatever I need
to go home and sleep get out drops her off at home and sure sure enough, as he's driving home, a little silhouette of a doll rises from the backseat
and strangles him from behind with a little wire
and he's slamming on the gas as this is happening.
His decisions in this moment, I couldn't,
yeah, he's like, well, I'll just drive faster.
A really crazy decision, just flooring it as he's being strangled'll just drive faster to a really crazy decision just flooring
it as he's being strangled
absolutely flooring it then Chucky starts
stabbing through the back of the seat
and it's this very funny like physical
comedy three stooges like
up through the legs
he starts like poking his
butt it's like no no no and once
again I'm like look this wouldn't be easy
and maybe this is just only a thing that happens in television.
But I'm like, open the door and roll out.
Like, get out of the car.
But he drives faster.
Faster and faster until finally he tries to hit the brake.
But too late.
Chucky crawled down there now.
He's stopping it and pressing the gas more.
Car spins out of control, flips over, gets an accident.
They're now upside down.
And Mike gets out his gun, and Chucky attacks him with the knife.
And Mike shoots him, flies backwards in slow motion.
Chucky flies back so far.
And we cut away.
So Mike seemingly got away that night.
We see the next day, Karen is going to Charles Lee Ray's
house to investigate further
because Mike gave her
the address. Yeah, he's doing a lot of things
that I feel like a cop just simply shouldn't do,
but it moves the story
forward, you know? He's still in child
prison, right? Yeah.
Andy hasn't been in child prison the whole time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great, great, great.
Oh, yeah. There are bars and everything.
You'll see.
And so she's at this house, and it has all these paintings on the wall that look like voodoo.
Like panic.
Spells.
There's something written on the wall like, thank you for life after death.
So he's into some voodoo shit, which she suspected because she's got him.
He's got her with the best instincts.
And Mike shows up there as well.
And now he believes her because he should.
He's now fought Chucky.
And he's pulled Charles Lee Ray's file.
And they find a lead, a guy that he hung out with a lot,
that's also painted on the wall of this place, that is his voodoo teacher. Yeah, this was the
part of the movie where I thought, uh-oh, I don't know where we're going to go here. And we sort of
do okay. But he does have a sort of guru type figure that was painted on his wall that is yeah maybe
our next lead of where to go find out more yeah and so they say we need to beat chucky there
too late chucky's already there chucky confronts this guy it's like a witch doctor i guess but his
name is john i said we'll call him john john John the witch doctor. That's right. And
he
John is
very surprised to see Chucky
as a doll and thinks
he's an abomination and Chucky
is saying you know I need to get out of this
doll body. I don't want to be in this body
forever. John tells him that
the longer he stays in the body
the more human he gets because he's
upset that he got shot and that it hurt. He's like, it really hurt when I got shot. Why did
it hurt? I'm a doll. Great question, honestly. Yeah. And he's saying, you know, you should,
or you'll turn more human as it goes. And he's okay. Tell me how to get out of the body he says no i'm not going to tell you and uh so chucky whips out a voodoo
doll of john that john had why does someone have a voodoo doll of themselves great question laying
around and you know what in this moment i bet he's asking himself the same thing yeah
not smart and and chucky also says, you shouldn't have told me where you get this hidden. Or you keep it, or you hide your voodoo doll.
Another mistake.
Another mistake.
Another big mistake from John.
And so Chucky takes the voodoo doll, snaps the leg.
This was, I thought, the most intense part of the movie.
Yeah, it's pretty upsetting.
John's like, like, fucking exploding.
It's like breaking every.
It's exploding. It like breaks in many directions. Yeah, like fucking explode. It's like breaking every exploding.
It like breaks in many directions.
Yeah, it's bad.
It yeah, it looks very painful.
He's screaming in pain saying, tell me how to get out of his body.
Doesn't tell him breaks the arm.
Oh, and he's screaming in pain again.
He's like, you know, I'm still not going to tell you.
Chuck pulls out a knife and is like, OK, I'm going to kill you.
And so John says, OK, OK, I'll tell you.
and is like, okay, well, I'm going to kill you.
And so John says, okay, okay, I'll tell you.
And he says, the only way to get out of the body is to do the same spell on the first person
you revealed your true self to.
And Chucky laughs and laughs and laughs and says,
well, I've got a date with a six-year-old boy,
which I was really not expecting that line in this movie.
Really caught me off guard.
Hey, this movie is full of surprises.
Full of surprises.
But he still stabs the voodoo doll,
and so he leaves John to bleed out.
But Karen and Mike are close on their tails
and come in just after Chucky has left,
but before John has died.
And so John is able to tell them you need to get to it.
I love when it works out that way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really nice.
Just enough to get the crucial information you need.
Yeah.
And so he tells them you've got to get to the child and that the only way to
kill Chucky is through the heart,
shoot him in the heart,
which they really don't pay attention to that information later no yeah
there's a there's a lot going on yeah true where was he shot earlier not through the heart
like shoulder yeah which if john wick tells us anything that's a fine place to be shot yeah
easy peasy and so now we see we see andy at Andy in his prison cell.
He's in a cell with bars.
It's Ray.
Honestly, maybe I'm just remembering this.
I feel like he's got his little arms dangling out of the cell,
just like waiting out his time.
And he sees Chucky running into the building like,
and he's terrified and he's trying to get people's
attention. Chucky's coming. He's coming here to kill me. Everyone thinks he's, you know, insane
and they're trying to restrain him. And he gets out of his room. We see Chucky has made it into
the building. They are in this operating room and, uh, the doctor now has caught up to andy andy is
really giving a chilling performance yeah this is where i won me over yeah and he's so so scared
and he's saying he's gonna kill you he'll kill you too doctor's about to sedate him which we
know will be very bad because Chucky's right there, but
Chucky jumps out and
puts the, like, electroshock
helmet on the doctor
and turns it on. Why
is this in a child prison?
Also, why is there an operating room
in the child prison? This is a bad place.
This is not a good place.
And Karen didn't even think twice about it.
She was just like, oh, yeah, whatever.
Go ahead.
Take him there, I guess.
And I don't remember her visiting once.
No.
And so while this doctor is being electrocuted to death,
which is also pretty gruesome.
He's, like, bleeding from his mouth and his eyes.
Yeah, his whole face is, like, red and burned and bloody
and, like, blood everywhere.
It was bad.
Yeah.
They shouldn't be allowed to exist, this helmet thing.
No, no.
Certainly not in a child's reason.
Not good.
Not for children.
That's not for children.
But while that's happening, it gives Andy a chance to get away.
So he gets a little bit of a head start.
Chucky pursues him soon after.
And Karen and Mike, once again, arriving a little bit too
late to try to get to Andy, see that he is no longer there. Karen says he's going to be home.
I know he's going to go home. And we see Andy has gotten home first. He's doing his best to
barricade the doors and keep himself safe. He's really independent. He's really trying. He already
made it all the way through the city
he can make his own breakfast i mean if anybody can handle chucky i think it's andy yeah yeah
he's really trying and we see chucky coming up the elevator and uh there's an older couple that
in the elevator with him and someone says oh so the kid left their doll in here and as they're
getting out of the elevator the woman woman's like, really ugly doll.
And the elevator's going up and Chucky says, fuck you.
And then Chucky gets in through the chimney
into their apartment.
I honestly don't.
I don't recall.
He was going up the elevator.
When did he go out?
I don't know.
He gets in.
He gets in.
Is there a man in this apartment building?
I don't know. I don't know. He gets in. He gets in. Is Andy in this apartment building? I don't know. I don't know.
Oh, yeah. Why would there be chimneys?
It goes through everybody's apartments.
Just one chimney up.
One big fireplace.
And so Chucky gets in.
Andy has a baseball bat.
He is going to hit Chucky as he walks walks up but he swings when chucky gets to
him completely misses drops the baseball bat it didn't work out for andy it seemed like he really
had a plan but it did not work out and so chucky chucky gets the baseball bat and says batter up
and smacks andy over the head. Knocks him unconscious.
Starts doing his spell.
We see the lightning storm brewing.
And Karen and Mike are arriving.
See that as well.
They know that's bad from the toy store.
And they arrive just in time to kick him off Andy.
And all of these physical fights with Chucky are so funny.
It's like, just hold him. Just hold him him just hold him like I really thought the same thing it's I mean I guess okay so okay one time
remember Theo got out my youngest cat and and we grabbed him and he was a kitten at this point I
mean like smaller than this card and and we grabbed him to bring him in and he latched on to Joel's hand
and gave him four steps.
So all that's to say,
sometimes a small thing can be more intense
than you expect.
And Chucky is fast.
Yeah, hard to get a grip on that.
He is fast,
but they're kicking him around.
He's flying a little ragdoll around.
It's very funny.
Mike goes in pursuit of Chucky
while Karen's tending to Andy and Chucky gets that baseball bat back and hits Mike unconscious now.
And so Karen and Andy have a little face off with Chucky where Karen gets him into the fireplace and he's going absolutely apeshit like.
And he's going absolutely apeshit, like, get me out of here.
And so she's like holding the great clothes to keep him in there. But then she can't reach the matches to light the fire.
And so she calls to Andy.
Andy, get the matches.
And he does.
And he's walking up.
And he's lighting the match.
And Chucky turns to Andy.
We're friends to the end, remember?
I hate this.
So manipulative.
It's so manipulative.
So manipulative.
But Andy says, this is the end, friend.
Whoa, Andy.
I feel his ears.
It's pretty cool.
Pretty badass.
It's pretty badass.
Throws the match in.
Lights Chucky on fire.
Chucky flies out of the fireplace fully on fire.
Rolls around like this whole house.
Nothing else catches on fire.
Nothing catches on fire.
Just the actor inside.
All this is the actor who's actually on fire.
Actually on fire.
But the whole rest of the house really fireproof.
Yeah, this is a fire purely attracted to human skin.
Yeah.
And he burns to a crisp.
He looks like Maltese.
Because he's a plasticky doll.
He looks like the Terminator, the mini Terminator.
He does look like the Terminator.
And they're like, well, he's dead.
Even though we have been given this piece of information
that there's only one way to kill him.
But he does seem dead.
I'll give him that.
He's not. He's not? Spoiler alert, he's not.
But they leave him. Well, Karen leaves
Andy with him and is like, I'll go tend to Mike.
And
he comes
back alive
and is like chasing Andy with a knife
now and they have another little
fight.
I mean, look, I get that this doll is fast it's also
three against one i i really don't understand why they can't get a handle on this doll like
thinking back it doesn't make sense but one of the i mean to be fair three one of them's a six
year old so and one is currently unconscious it's kind of just okay so it's one against
a classic one against one okay fine and so now. And so now Karen has the gun and is shooting Chucky.
Shoots his head off first.
Pretty good shot.
I assume this lady hasn't really shot a lot of guns before.
She's a pretty good shot.
And pretty small target.
Pretty small target.
Shoots his head off.
Shoots his arm off.
Shoots one of his legs off.
He collapses.
Not his heart.
Doesn't shoot him in the heart.
Not his heart. But again, he looks lifeless. And they're like, phew, shoots one of his legs off. He collapses. Not his heart. Doesn't shoot him in the heart. Not his heart.
But again, he looks lifeless.
And they're like, phew, he's really dead this time.
And they go back in to Mike has woken up.
And they're coming together like, oh, it's all over.
And his partner arrives.
And they're like, it was real.
It was the doll the whole time.
And his partner picks up the doll's head.
The Chucky hen is like this burned, decapitated doll head.
Ha, you guys are crazy.
Body comes back to life, starts strangling the partner.
And he's able to fling him off.
Mike shoots him.
Karen says, shoot him through the heart.
And he shoots him through the heart.
Big blood splatter,
which we haven't seen any blood splatter in any of the other shots before.
And so it seems like now Chucky is really dead.
And the movie ends on a freeze frame of just Andy's little traumatized face staring at Chucky.
I cannot believe.
Since we're rarely in a visual environment, the end shot of the movie is this.
It's just like...
And it plays for
like 30 seconds.
It's just like the scaredest, most traumatized
little boy. Is it rolling credits over it, or
is it just the frame? No, it's just the frame, and then
it fades to black.
I couldn't believe it.
I thought our movie had frozen. I was like, nope, that's the end. Alright, there we go. I believe it. I thought our movie had frozen.
I was like, nope, that's the end.
All right, there we go.
I loved it.
Honestly, I did too.
I really had a good time.
It was fun.
It's a franchise for a reason.
It's fun.
It's a franchise for a reason.
It's way fun.
It makes me want to watch the rest of them.
I am in.
I liked it a lot more than I thought I was going to.
Chuck, you have great leading timing. Great one And luckily there's great one-liners.
Great one-liners.
Chucky's funny.
I'm a fan.
And I think it's a manageable one for people who are scared.
What do you think?
Oh, definitely.
It's like more comedy than horror.
In this one, you don't see a lot of the violence, like the hammer throwing and stuff.
You just like see it from the other end because I think that would have been hard to execute like getting a little doll to do that kind of stuff so and it's mainly just it was really funny and um confusing about the way children were treated
generally speaking in the 80s um maybe the later ones sort of clear that up for me but i don't
have a lot of faith in the 90s for doing it better. So I guess we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. The scariest part was the child prison.
You're right.
That was definitely the most.
And look, there were other children there.
Like, they're still there as far as we know.
Nobody picked up those other kids.
So that could have its own horror movie probably.
Oh, my God.
I'm so happy I know about this movie now, you guys.
Thank you.
Yeah, this is like such a, feels like a really a crucial one that
it's taken us a while to get to and now we've done it yeah now we've tried now we have seven
more just seven more and a tv series series that's nothing we got that in the bag yeah i can't wait
what's chucky gonna do next what will he do next we got bride ofide of Chucky. We got Seed of Chucky. Bride of Chucky? He gets married?
Yes.
I feel like I remember.
I did not know we had a rom-com in the franchise.
I'm telling you.
I'm going to watch the rest of them.
I'm really excited.
Wow.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
Yeah.
I'm a fan.
It was great.
I have, like, no notes at all.
No notes.
A perfect film.
We did it.
Great job, Tom Holland,
the actor in his 20s.
He is, the man can do it all. Really? Yeah, what can't he?
The man can do it all. Hey,
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