Too Scary; Didn't Watch - CREEP 2

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

One terrible idea for a web series, one hundred red flags, and the hottest we've ever seen Mark Duplass, we're recapping CREEP 2!!! A perfect film, according to Rotten Tomatoes (and us??). Th...ank you to our Patrons for picking this one and taking us on this beautiful/deranged journey!Check out our Patreon if you'd like to vote for our January recap, 2x bonus episodes a month and other additional content!TrailerMovie trivia @ 16:19Recap begins @ 31:58Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Hemley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we have a patron chosen episode today.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Some mumble gore. Oh my, it's been a minute. It's been a minute. We are doing two patron chosen episodes this month because we dropped the ball in November. So sorry. Sorry about that. But if you want to vote in the next poll, you can join our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSCW podcast. Any level gets to vote in these episodes. Pretty exciting stuff over there.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Pretty freaking exciting. But okay, before we get to our mumble gore, did anything scary happen to us this week? Great question. God, what a good question. I need to tell you guys something this is scary so i we lost our car keys for several days which is real which is a real pain in the ass well we have a spare set but the spare set you have to manually unlock the car and every time you unlock the car that way the alarm goes off until you turn the car on. It feels like that shouldn't be the case if you used a key.
Starting point is 00:01:48 The key. It's like, yeah, this is what this is for. Stupid car. I'm sure if I could find the Subaru manual, it would tell me what to do differently. Sure. Nonetheless, we've been living in this reality where we turn the car on, the car alarm goes off. Not ideal with young children. Not ideal with young children.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Not ideal with young children. Also, when several different people are using our car. So Gloria is a woman who watches Silas in the mornings. She uses the car a lot. She's been dealing with this. Oh, poor Gloria. Tim's parents, they use our car to drive back and forth from New York. They're having to have a car alarm go off.
Starting point is 00:02:25 That's not ideal for them. So we were like, okay, we're just going to have to bite the bullet and buy some new car keys. Until today, when Rick, Tim's dad, found our car keys, let me tell you how he found them. He took boxes out to our recycling. And he was like, he's very methodical. Rick is a completist just like tim is he's really committed to doing the right thing he is breaking down those boxes as one does do you guys not break down your boxes i break down my boxes 75 at the time and 25
Starting point is 00:02:58 if they're small and i'm tired i go same well yeah i guess if it's a real small one, I don't do it. But the big ones, you got it because they ain't going to fit in that box. It's from, I feel like working at a coffee shop. Yeah. Had to break down a lot of boxes at Pete's Coffee. So sure, sure, sure. Have a little box cutter. I kind of enjoy breaking down a box.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I love a box cutter. I do too. And I've also often lived places where people get really angry if you don't do a very thorough job breaking down the boxes. Yeah, when you share a recycling bin. And that's the case for us. So we poked his head in that recycling bin, noticed there were some boxes that had not been broken down, went in there, started breaking them down. Oh my God. Guess what he found? Your car keys? In an unbroken down box?
Starting point is 00:03:49 In the recycling, in some like shoe box. And I really think that it's. Oh, my God. It's because. I think Silas did it. Silas 100% put the car keys in a little box that he found. Oh, no. And that happened a solid probably like six days ago. And that box has been, they've just been sitting in the bottom of the recycling oh thank god it didn't cut the trash people didn't come can you
Starting point is 00:04:12 believe that and also thank god leave that rick decided like well i'll take care of these other boxes like can you believe that that's the greatest really above it above and beyond above and beyond also it's so funny i like i lose things a lot but the idea that your toddler could have like taken your thing and put it's like that's a level of stress that i can't eat it's like how could you ever find anything if a possible explanation is our toddler put it in a small box and we didn't see it happen or know what it could be. Little children are little magpies that are obsessed with sparkly little things. Little magpies! And they just want to
Starting point is 00:04:50 collect them and hide them for themselves. Little fancy sparkly things just for me. Nobody will get these keys. I really feel that way. And God bless Rick. Thank you. Thank you, Rick. Thank you, Rick.
Starting point is 00:05:10 We didn't have to buy a new car because obviously we're going to be buying new car keys if that had been picked up. Anyway, that was my shocking thing that happened. Wow. That is shocking. I'm shocked. Absolutely shocking. I mean Nothing too scary happened this week Except that we hosted our
Starting point is 00:05:29 We do a little annual Christmas party Got on the ball this year Had it early Early first weekend of December And I lost my mind With decorations It looked so good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I don't want to and I won't add up what I actually spent on because it was like I would buy a few things. Yeah, that's the perfect thing where it's like a $15 thing is not a big deal at all.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And then you buy $115 things. Oh, yeah. And then you buy $115 things. Oh, yeah. And it's like I would do like a round. I'd buy some decorations, put them up and be like, cool, cool. Now I feel like I need something over there. OK, let's do another little round. And I would just like kept adding on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And I don't I just because, you know, how can we make this a tax write off? Listeners, tell lawyers, tell me if you're IRS, put your ears. It just was like, I couldn't stop, especially the week leading up. Like, every day I would come home with another thing and Julie would be like, oh, more decorations. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Cool. Where are we purchasing these decorations? Mostly Target. There's a purchasing these decorations? Mostly Target. Um, there's a Target right next to my office, so I would just sort of do a little poke around, be like, do I need another little thing here? Um, so a lot of Target, um, some Amazon.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm sorry. Um, yeah, it's tough. It's tough not to. I know I'm late to the game on this, but I recently discovered HomeGoods. HomeGoods is great. And holy shit. It is so much cheaper.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I needed a bunch of baskets because we just have so much shit and I just need to put it all in baskets because that's my only storage solution. HomeGoods. $6 baskets left and right. Gorgeous. Wow. Gorgeous baskets at HomeGoods. That is great to know. That is great to know.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But they have so many decorations and i feel like if i was on a decoration kick home goods would be like the most dangerous place to be because they have endless options and all seem reasonably priced until you're at the cash register and it's like they add it up yeah and once they add it up then once they add it up it becomes a lot it becomes a lot and more than just each individual cost, it becomes the total cost. And I spent a lot of money, but I also spent a lot of time and a lot of mental energy on like how to make it perfect. And I will say my proudest pieces are one, I have a listeners may know, I decided
Starting point is 00:08:05 to take pole dancing classes at one point and I mean, if you can believe it, I've since very much stopped, but I did purchase a pole and put it up in my house, which it is, doesn't get used at all, but I turned it into the North Pole and I wrapped it in fake snow blanket
Starting point is 00:08:21 and red ribbon and a little like tinsel garland. It's pretty good. And I built a little out of i glued a bunch of small cardboard boxes together and spray painted them to look like bricks and mounted them on my wall above my tv to be like a little mantle and so then i hung stockings from it and i put fireplace video on the tv so it looks like we had a fireplace oh my god oh boy but now it's like okay i did all that now i have to after christmas find a place to store it i guess or like get rid of it it's the storage it's storage yeah what the fuck i need You know, basements and attics are not just for horror movies.
Starting point is 00:09:08 They're for decorations. They're for decorations. I know. I know. So I don't really, I haven't really confronted that part of it yet. I'm just going to try to be looking for all it's worth and have some people over. Yeah, you got a month to enjoy. I've got a month. I can even go a little bit into January.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Take that off your plate for right now. Thank you. Don't worry about that. Just enjoy it. I think that's the sign of being a true adult is once you're storing holiday decorations. It's true. My God. Yeah. I can like picture all the labeled bins in my attic. Like in the day that'd be like,
Starting point is 00:09:40 okay, dad's going to go up in the attic and get all the Christmas decorations out. You know, like that was like a thing. Yeah that is aspirational my mom has been texting me my mom has been my mom was trying to get rid of everything in their house and she's been texting me all day the most i'm sorry mom i know you're listening the most hideous holiday decorations i've ever seen in my whole life she She asked me if she wanted me to bring this tree skirt when she comes. But what's funny about that is like,
Starting point is 00:10:12 well, you don't want it anymore, so you must not like it that much. No. It's not your prized and favorite because you're pawning it off. It's like a felt tree skirt with like cat hair on it from a cat that clearly died several decades
Starting point is 00:10:26 ago. Several decades ago? When was the last time we had a white cat? Not since I've been alive. Interesting. Yeah. It's a whole thing. Christmas decorations. I'm inspired. I want to
Starting point is 00:10:43 decorate my house and maybe I'll be talking about that next decorations. I'm inspired. I want to decorate my house. And maybe I'll be talking about that next week. I can't wait. But this week, I'm talking about something very weird. This is a weird one. And the scary thing about it, it's not something scary that happened to me. It is a scary thing to learn something new in your 30s that you've been doing something wrong your whole life. Yes. Okay. I'm sure I've been doing it wrong too. I want to know.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And I think you guys have probably been doing it wrong as well. Oh my God, no. Did you know that you are not supposed to rinse the toothpaste out of your mouth after you brush your teeth? Okay. What? What? Isn't that crazy? I don't know. I don't even remember actually where I saw this. But the fluoride in the toothpaste is supposed to be able to like sit on your teeth for about 30 minutes. So you're not supposed to actually even eat or drink anything for 30 minutes after you brush your teeth.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You're supposed to let the toothpaste sit in your mouth. What? Well, that's good news for my toddler who is certainly not brushing his teeth correctly at all until now. I know he is now. I know he is. Rinsing it out is wrong. I don't want to be right. I mean, yeah, everyone can decide for themselves.
Starting point is 00:11:53 We've been doing it this way for 30 plus years and it's been fine. It's fine. I still have my teeth, you know, knock on wood. Where did you learn this, Sammy? How did this happen? I can't remember. It might have been on a toothpaste instruction thing. I feel like I was reading the box of something and got confused.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Like, what? You were reading the toothpaste box? But I can't remember. And I immediately Googled it, obviously. I was like, that can't be right. Whoa. I just Googled it. You're supposed to spit out the
Starting point is 00:12:26 excess toothpaste but not rinse not rinse oh what so i've been doing it that way now and how's it going it's i can't tell a difference really it's it seems i usually what the fuck? I probably don't wait the allotted 30 minutes to eat or drink, but maybe like 10 or so before I have some water. And I don't know. I just was more shaken by the fact that something that everybody does every day is probably everybody's doing it wrong. And it's really weird to me. And that the dentist wouldn't instruct you or remind you be like as a reminder it must not be that important because otherwise we would know right right otherwise we would know okay well here's the thing i feel like i learned at some point that you're supposed like you'd think like wait to brush your teeth until after you have like your morning coffee or whatever but you're supposed to brush your teeth first thing like it's you're supposed to brush the night away first thing
Starting point is 00:13:26 interesting i do brush first thing i brush first thing but i pretty much meet well i rinse out my mouth with water and then i almost immediately drink coffee so yeah i'm like i think maybe i always wait to brush my teeth i'm not gonna sit 30 minutes with toothpaste on my mouth and then drink my coffee. That's crazy. It is really crazy. And nobody has to do this. We're not, we're not saying you have to do this. We're not dentists, but any dental hygienists or dentists out there, maybe let us know what you do. Yeah. What? And I had a question for you guys. Do you floss before or after brushing? Before. I usually do it before brushing. Are you going to tell me that's wrong? That one I think is user's choice. I don't think there's a clear rule, but maybe there is, but I've always done it after because I think of it as like brushing is like a regular clean,
Starting point is 00:14:24 and then you go in and you detail clean afterwards. But I very much also see the argument for doing it first. You get the stuff out and then you brush it away and get it out. And then that's what I think. I think, you know, clean it out and then brush, brush it all away. So, okay. Here, here's a pitch for the dentists out there. How does this sound? Would this be very impressive if I flossed, brushed, flossed again? Wait, shit. How's the toothpaste on your teeth? So you have to floss first
Starting point is 00:14:54 because then you're supposed to just let the toothpaste on your teeth. Yeah. So I've been switching to, I've been switching to first before. So then when do you do mouthwash? I don't think you're supposed to really do mouthwash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Okay, good. Because I don't. I'm pretty sure that mouthwash is something. Mouthwash is for like middle of the day when you ate something that like left a bad taste in your mouth. Isn't there also fluoride in our water? So like we're good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I mean, I'm sure we're good. I'm sure we're good. But it's just interesting to know that those are not the explicit directions. How, I mean, how could we have made it this far without ever knowing that? Yeah. How about it? Yeah. Pretty crazy stuff. Shocking. Shocking weeks. Absolutely shocking. My head is blown away right now. Oh my God. Absolutely shocking. My head is all around. Blown away right now. Oh my God. Henley's head. Henley's head. It just blew away. It literally just. My head is blown away. It blew off her shoulders. My body, cool as a cucumber. My head, blown away. It just
Starting point is 00:16:00 gone. I like to imagine it didn't pop. It just blew intact off of your shoulders. Like a little balloon. Like a balloon, yeah. Okay, should we get into some mumble gore? Yes, please. I guess we should. I really didn't like the first one of these, so I'm not super amped about the second one.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, because today we were talking about Creep 2. I'm excited about it. I kind of am excited too, to be honest. It was directed by Patrick Bryce, written by Patrick Bryce and Mark Duplass, starring Mark Duplass, Desiree Akhavan, and Karin Soni. Creep 2 is streaming on Netflix for those who are interested. I love these movies because they're short and I just feel like you know what you're getting into and they're
Starting point is 00:16:53 I think a fun time. Your mileage may vary on that obviously, but I think it's worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Sorry, I gotta get Bunk off my lap. He's being... What are you trying to do?
Starting point is 00:17:09 I think he wants to sit on the chair behind me. Wants to provide you a little lumbar support. A little lumbar support. A little lumbar support. A little lumbar support. But yeah, I guess we kind of know what we're getting into maybe we should do a brief little reminder of creep one yeah is a movie where a man responds to a craigslist ad to film another man for some unknown reason for a thousand bucks for the day, shows up. It seems like it's Lake Arrowhead or something in the mountains and gets asked to do progressively weirder and weirder things.
Starting point is 00:17:53 The person he's filming, his name is Joseph. And the person filming in the first one is Aaron. And Joseph says that he is dying and he's wanting to make a film for his son to remember him by, but then just slowly pushes the boundaries of what is an acceptable thing to ask a stranger to do. Starts with having him film him give an invisible baby a bath. Yeah. I hated that. Yeah. I think about that a lot. Tubby time. Tubby time. Pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, I think about that a lot. Tubby time. Tubby time. Pretty weird. Some other things to remember is he has a wolf mask that he refers to as peach fuzz. When he puts the mask on, he's peach fuzz. And the first one culminates in him stalking Aaron back to his home and eventually murdering him with an axe. Not what you want. It. Not what you want. It's not what you want. Um, and I wanted to talk a little bit about, and you guys maybe don't share this experience, but I think Mark Duplass is hot and I'm, I want to talk about the, the way that in media
Starting point is 00:19:00 people are attracted to serial killers. This happened with, uh, Penn Badgley and you, uh, Joe, people are attracted to serial killers. This happened with Penn Badgley in You, Joe. People were like obsessed with him and he had to, he was doing a lot of tweeting being like, this is not right. Like you should not be attracted to this character. And I was feeling that with Mark Duplass in this movie where I was like, and he's hot. He's hot. I sign up. I would answer this and he's hot. He's hot. I sign up. I would answer this Craigslist ad.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Oh my God. Okay, now see, that's interesting because it is like, on the one hand, it's like, I actually think that Mark Duplass is hot in an unconventional sort of way. Yeah. I think he's an attractive man. Penn Badgley is obviously hot, obviously.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Obviously. But it's like, are we attracted to the character or is it a handsome man being scary i think there's like an interesting turn off regardless anyway right shouldn't it i but there's like historically serial killers in prison like always have women that are in love with them a lot of times will get pregnant with children in like uh what do you call conjugal visits? So there's some psychology happening here that I'm interested in. I didn't think enough about it to say anything super revelatory about it, but I just wanted to flag it. Something to think about. Let's flag it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I have, okay. I have so many thoughts. All right. One is the most obvious one, which is, I think I could change him. Yes, I could fix him. I can fix him. I think I can change him. I'll be the one. No one else could do it. But I'm going to rise above the rest. It'll be me. I'm like the special one who will fix everything. Yeah, I think that's it. There's that way of thinking. There's also, though, I think we as a society have been obsessed with centering these serial killers in our stories for years why why do we make them the central hero main character yeah and so we're going to be attracted to the person who's at the
Starting point is 00:20:54 center of the story anyway to a certain degree probably yeah i think part of it is yeah just like my attraction to people in movies in General it's main character Energy they've got serious main Character energy I mean honestly Serial killers do have main Character energy I think that's like part Of the whole thing Um I was just thinking too
Starting point is 00:21:18 I was thinking about Beauty and the Beast Not that he's a Serial killer but That energy of like he's mean and killer But that energy of like There's some red flags He's mean and bad and a lot of red flags And I think it is that I can change him It's a little dangerous I think there's something to the intensity too
Starting point is 00:21:33 Of like oh my god What if he focused that intensity on me You know like But I think there's something to be Like the vampire thing right Like the danger The thrill of like is it Sexy or is it scary like which one
Starting point is 00:21:50 Is it And like the Tension of those two feelings being Like a very horny thing Which by the way Our Twilight episode was a big hit And the listeners are saying they want to Continue with the Twilight series I would want to continue with the Twilight series.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Which I would love. I would love to continue with it. And I do want to say, since that episode, because we recorded that in August 2021, Joel has watched three of them with me. Hell yeah. We only have Breaking Dawn Part 1 and 2 left over. Maybe let's save that for the pod. Let's save that for the pod. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I would love to do more Twilight. Because we did a new moon episode, right? I would really love to do them. We did a new moon episode. That's on our Patreon. So we just have to do Eclipse and then we can bring Joel in for Breaking Dawn part one and two. I mean, I'd be thrilled. I'd be thrilled to do it. Yep. Sign me up.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Sign me up. God, what a fun time. Have you still not seen anything beyond Twilight, Hen? No. Well, I saw New Moon. You watched New Moon. Oh, great. Because we didn't. Okay. Sign me up. Sign me up. God, what a fun time. Have you still not seen anything beyond Twilight, Hen? No. Well, I saw New Moon. You watched New Moon. Oh, great, because we didn't. Okay. But no Eclipse. But no Eclipse and no Breaking Dawn. Is my favorite. Yeah. And which one's your favorite? New Moon? Is New Moon your favorite? Sammy's favorite is New Moon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Your favorite's also New Moon, right? Henley? No. I mean, as of right now, I can't tell the difference between the first one And the second one The second one's Jacob The second one has very little Edward Which is why I don't like it
Starting point is 00:23:14 There's very little Edward In New Moon I thought Henley was also team Team Jacob She is unfortunately I am fully team Jacob But I'm just trying to pull He's so problematic Team Jacob. I am fully Team Jacob. I am fully Team Jacob. But I'm just trying to pull...
Starting point is 00:23:28 He's so problematic. He is so... He is absolutely the worst of two evils. Even more so than Edward, which is crazy because Edward is also so problematic. But Jacob is awful. Jacob's worse.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Jacob receives no consent anyways this is yeah this isn't the episode about twilight but we will continue them because obviously we have thoughts no but it is it is related in this like attraction to horrible horrible people um and again nothing revelatory to say but just something to all think about for ourselves. Let's all think about it. And flag it for further reflection. Yeah. And let's try to not do it because it doesn't, it doesn't feel healthy when I'm watching this and I'm like, I kind of want to fuck that guy. But it's a common feeling.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It's you're not alone. Except maybe, except maybe you're alone in this particular movie because it's literally called Creep. Am I, Henley? Because let me tell you that this movie has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, and that's the fuckable rating, right? That's what? 100% of people say they want to fuck Mark Duplass. Yeah, that's the requirement to rate it. How much do you want to fuck Mark Duplass. That's the requirement to rate it. How much do you want to fuck Mark Duplass?
Starting point is 00:24:48 100%. 100%. I think this is our first 100% movie we've done. I mean, there's very few 100% movies out there. I was shocked when I saw this. This is not a 100% level film. And again, Rotten Tomatoes, the way that it's... Rotten Tomatoes makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's not averaging their ratings. It's just measuring positive and negative ratings. So 100% of people... Nobody had anything extremely negative to say about this movie is what that means. Which I agree with. Well, I'm going to sign up for Rotten Tomatoes after this. After this episode. Henley's going to become a film critic.
Starting point is 00:25:25 It's a review. Yeah. The review score. The audience score, I think, was 71. So don't worry, Henley. You don't have to sign up. I'm going to contact all the reviewers I know who have Rotten Tomatoes logins. Hey, have you reviewed Creep 2?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Can I ghostwrite your Creep 2 review? they're clearly not going off of they mean reviews that were like published in publications not yes reviewers going on unpublished not reviewers going on to rotten tomatoes.com and being like a plus you know what i mean no yeah you've got to get someone to write an article about publish okay well that i'm gonna start doing some texting right now perfect great we'll get that going perfect perfect i think that's a great use of your time uh it has 75 on metacritic and a 6.4 on imdb pretty standard imdb score yep uh no budget or gross information because i don't i don't know if it was released in theaters i guess i should have looked that up i didn't when did it come out did you say 2017 sorry no i did not say okay but they're found footage films and so i
Starting point is 00:26:41 think they're very cheap i think the first one was around five thousand dollars to make so i'm guessing this one is um you know maybe more but certainly cheap and there's theoretically a third one that there's been whisperings about they i couldn't find any recent news the last they have commented on it was in 2020, and they said it's happening. But then, you know, some things happened in 2020 that could have changed. Affected the timeline of Creep 3. So it's hard to say for sure, but I hope that it is happening. I would love a Creep 3. So it's hard to say for sure, but I hope that it is happening.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I would love a Creep 3. And in these movies, as in a lot of found footage movies, the script was only an outline. There's a lot of improvisation. The trivia says Mark Duplass and Desiree Akhavan would surprise each other with their choices. And I'm like, that's improvisation. That's what that means. That's what that means. And that's all the trivia I have. Not a lot of trivia for this one.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So let's take a peek at this trailer. Oh, boy. I'm Sarah. Hey. Welcome to Encounters. Sunday morning. I'm Sarah. Hey, Sarah. Hey, welcome to Encounters. I'm Sarah. Hey, Sarah, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:28:07 The show where I look behind the strange world of online personal ads. What is their story? Who are these people? So subscribe and join me on this journey. You never know who you might meet next. Hello. Hello. Ever since I turned 40, I've lost my inspiration. I have no joy. I'm having a hard time.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What am I doing trying to make the films that I used to make? What if I make a documentary? And this is where you come in. I have no idea what I'm stepping into. Aaron, is that you? You are inspiring feelings in me. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Oh my god. This is going to be a good day. Man, he's so good he's great oh i think i don't want to victim blame but it's a bad idea to be doing a bad idea really bad idea i really feel like someone in her life should have been like no no to this. Certainly not alone. Certainly not alone. Not alone as a young woman.
Starting point is 00:29:30 No, a woman can't be alone on Craigslist in strangers' houses. Can't. No, no, no, no. Did I tell you guys about the time? I think I probably have. But I when I worked as a runner for a company like PA having having to pick stuff up, I had to, this is such a stupid story. I had to pick up a Tintin doll, a rare Tintin doll from a house in the Valley. It was like kind of in the middle of nowhere. I mean, there were other houses around, but I didn't know where I was. And it was just like a man that collects dolls. Yeah, that's not right.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I like knocked on the door and I had called my coordinator beforehand. Like, if I don't call you back in 10 minutes, like call, please. I was freaked out. He had he had like newspaper on the windows covering so that you couldn't see inside. And I knocked on the door and he answered the door. I said, hey, I'm here for the tin tin doll and he said oh right it's in my shed out back no no turn around bye and i was like okay go get it i'm gonna stay right here and he didn't even got any brought back and it was all fine but i was
Starting point is 00:30:42 just like you think i'm coming to the fucking shed back there hell no absolutely not horrifying horrifying yeah stay safe out there ladies and men i mean men men can hurt men too men can hurt men and women have never hurt anybody women have never hurt i was gonna say women can't A woman couldn't hurt a fly No Let's all stay safe from everybody Everybody stay in your house Everybody can hurt everybody Stay vigilant out there
Starting point is 00:31:15 Everybody's got the potential to be very very bad They all could be Mark Duplass the actor Even if they're hot So just be aware, you know? Keep that guard up. Keep that guard up. He's looking pretty hot in the photo you chose in the background, even though he's clearly about
Starting point is 00:31:32 to stab you. He's looking pretty good there. I mean, he's having a good time. It's nice to see. It's nice to see joy in someone's eyes. You gotta love what you do. And that's kind of what this movie's about. It's about him refinding the joy in what he does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Well, what a journey. I want to say I support it, but I might not. Yeah. Should we find out? Let's find out. We should find out. Let's do it. In the past few years, I have hit a point where I only want to be wearing clothes that
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Starting point is 00:36:56 We see a guy opening this, inspecting it, looking freaked out like he probably knows what's happening this isn't the first thing like this that has happened to him he also pulls out a dvd i think he's saying like oh not again not another one puts the dvd on his tv we don't see it but it's freaking him out. We're probably safe to assume the DVD is just of him going about his business. And he's watching this looking scared. And then there is a knock at the door. And he answers it and seems unafraid of who's there. He's like, oh, yeah, come in, come in. I want to show you something.
Starting point is 00:37:42 In walks our creep, Mark Duplass. And he sits next to him on the couch and is like, oh my God, did you get another of these DVDs? Man, you got to call the police. He says, I called the police. They said, you know, nothing. They're not doing anything technically. And so I can't, can't, there's's nothing they can do and he asks him if he wants a beer he's like i need some alcohol i mean can i get you a beer creep says yes we find out he says yes he is now going by aaron which is gross that's so gross i really don't like that not joseph anymore uh so as he the other guy guy's name is Dave. As Dave walks to into the kitchen to get a beer, we see Aaron blowing a kiss at the camera, waving, smiling, having a good time.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And he repositions the camera to frame the kitchen table where they sit down and are having beers and talking about, uh, this thing that's happening. Dave asks Aaron, what's up with you? And Aaron is very, he's, uh, Mark Duplass is just so good in this character. He's like, I can't believe you would ask me about myself while all of this stuff is happening to you. You are such a good guy. You're such a good guy. And as this conversation progresses, Aaron says he's worried about them, their friendship. He's like, you're really important to me. And I'm a little worried about our friendship, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And Dave seems confused. What do you mean? We're good. He's like, I don't know. He's like, I don't know. Just think about it. We were at the same exact coffee shop on the same day, ordering the same exact thing, reading the same exact copy of Infinite Jest. We were fated to, that was like fate like our friendship is supposed to be epic and i don't feel like it's growing to the heights that it should and i feel like if you're not in this a hundred percent for this to be like the greatest friendship it can be then i think it's probably best for both of us if we just end it and dave is obviously very confused by this conversation doesn't know how to respond and then aaron says do you ever think about how we met
Starting point is 00:40:14 around the time you received your first dvd in the mail oh god and we see some light bulb moment happen for Dave. It's obviously realizing Aaron is not a creep. Maybe a bit of a creep. And Aaron says, I've been filming you since we met. I wanted to make a gift for you of a movie of our whole friendship. And he points to the wolf camera, hidden camera in the wolf and says, this baby peach fuzz, say hi. He's filming us right now. And then he gets a little frustrated. Aaron gets a little frustrated. He's like, I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with me. This doesn't even feel fun anymore something's like i'm about to turn 40 i feel like i'm losing my inspiration and we see he's has a knife he's like pulling a knife out
Starting point is 00:41:11 under the table and he's shaking his head like this barely even feels fun anymore it's not even doesn't even really feel worth it swings his arm and slits Dave's throat. Oh, Jesus. Jeez. And as Dave is like spitting up blood and dying, Aaron is just looking really upset
Starting point is 00:41:38 by how it's not feeling fun for him anymore. He's looking sad. Oh, gross. Okay. A quick death? A quick death? No, long, long, long drawn out death? It seems pretty quick. Could be worse. And he didn't have like
Starting point is 00:41:53 I feel like Aaron in the first movie really got a very drawn out horrible torturous. Yeah. So Dave it could have been worse for dave certainly could have been better certainly could have been better could have not happened right uh now we cut to a youtube video of a show called encounters hosted by a woman named Sarah. She's explaining that in encounters,
Starting point is 00:42:25 she answers Craigslist ads and films just the kind of weird people asking for someone to come massage their head and like sing a lullaby to them. All sounding like very bad ideas, all men. We see now that she's filming filming herself as she's watching one of her old videos and she's upset because it only has nine views not worth it girl not worth it not worth it honey let's find something else to do. And she's really disappointed in this. And she says, I think I might be deeply untalented. I thought I had a gift for seeing things in people and seeing loneliness in people and being able to relate to them and just find new and interesting things about people and connect and had a gift for connecting with
Starting point is 00:43:25 people but doesn't seem to be translating i guess i should just quit doing this she's feeling really down and out on her youtube channel yeah yeah i think that's a good idea quit yeah maybe let's quit try something new cut to her next morning talking to camera saying, sorry, I got a little dramatic last night. I've had my coffee now. I'm feeling better. And I saw a new ad that looks interesting. We're going to try this out one more time. We see a Craigslist ad that says $1,000 for the day.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Honesty and emotional bravery, a must. Fans of Interview with the Vampire a plus. Sign me up. I mean, I'm liking the way this sounds. Let's go deep together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 She texts the number that in the ad and says, I'm interested. No. He writes back, do you scare easily? She says no. I mean, that question makes me go, well, never mind. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Even if the answer is no, the question indicates this is a bad idea. Yeah. I would never in one million years do this. Never in a million years. Not in one million trillion years. We cut to her driving. She says she's driven three hours to get to where he is. So it again looks like Lake Arrowhead. It's like similar, if not the exact same location.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I don't think it's the exact same house, but same area. And she arrives and says to the camera, this is something I normally wouldn't do, you know, far from home. And this guy is not giving me a lot of information. Hasn't really filled me in on the details of this job, but the things I've been doing haven't been working. So maybe that's why my show has been sucking And maybe this will be Make it better Be interesting Maybe the show just ain't it Maybe I just
Starting point is 00:45:34 Need to be murdered And then the show will do well Maybe I'm not being completely Fucking reckless enough with my Health and safety Stupid enough Huh She walks up to the house fucking reckless enough with my health and safety. Stupid enough.
Starting point is 00:45:48 She walks up to the house. Door is open. She walks in and is looking around. Doesn't seem like anyone's there. And then we get a loud blender jump scare. We see Aaron making smoothies. He, I think it's important to note, has a small ponytail. That is important and he hands her he pours a smoothie into two cups hands her one again i'm like i'm not drinking that and she does and he does also to be fair they're both drinking the smoothie she saw him
Starting point is 00:46:20 make it and pour it but already i'm doing the calculations of like, hmm. And in true Aaron slash Joseph slash creep fashion, he says, ha ha, it's poisoned. Very funny. Hilarious joke. And she introduces herself as Sarah. And he says, he looks at her for a long moment, says, that's your real name, isn't it? She says, yes. He says, I can tell. Thanks for that. And he asks if they can start with a hug. Oh, no. They hug each other. They sit down and he's asking her a little bit, what's your story?
Starting point is 00:47:04 And she tells him she's a wedding videographer. Hey, go do that. That sounds really fun and safe. That sounds way safer. Lots of people at weddings. Lots of people at weddings. To keep an eye on everybody. Love a lot of witnesses.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Love a lot of witnesses. So after she tells him that, she asks him, what's your story? What's, you know him what's your story what's um you know what's your deal he says um i am what people would refer to as a serial killer i don't oh my god it's like i don't love that nomenclature but that is he's like i think of myself as a murderer, but technically because I've killed 39 people, I'm, I'm a serial killer. Uh, but I'm about to turn 40 and it's kind of sent me a little bit spiraling. I'm having a crisis. I feel like I don't trust my instincts anymore. I'm scared that I'm I've lost what makes me great. Like killing people used to just bring me so much joy and it felt like almost a religious experience. And now it just kind of feels like a job. Oh my God. I love this honesty. Yeah. I'm
Starting point is 00:48:14 excited to see where we go from here. He says, but then I read something by Francis Ford Coppola. I thought you were going to say Francis McDermott. That was too. That essentially blew his head right off. Blew away like a balloon. Blew his head away. And it's a quote from Francis Ford Coppola that says, I have not made an original film since The Conversation in 1974,
Starting point is 00:48:39 and I'm not sure I'm capable of it, but I really want to keep trying. And this has been a very meaningful quote to Aaron. He says, why am I trying to make the films I used to make? Why don't I just embrace where I'm at right now and make a documentary about my life of like one of the most prolific unknown serial killers? That's where you come in. I want to I'm like feeling inspired to make something new that I haven't done before. And I know that I just threw a lot at you. So if you want to bail, I understand no hard feelings, but I really hope you stay. I,
Starting point is 00:49:19 but if you're in, I need you to be in a hundred percent. There's no turning back once we start. So what do you say? says i'm in what any any any follow-up questions yeah does she what do we think her no at this point i don't know at this point i'm like is she just saying whatever she needs to say it is like survive this moment or is she really in such pursuit of an interesting story that she's willing to risk it? Not good. Wow. Okay. So she says she's in.
Starting point is 00:49:59 He says, I can promise you two things. I will not kill you over the next 24 hours. That would be counterproductive. And I will give you deep personal access to my soul and together we'll make magic. Does she say after 24 hours? Not over the next... Yeah, right. Like, and when that time
Starting point is 00:50:16 is up. We're clocking that for sure that there was a time missional. Yeah. But now we cut to him showing her the tape of him killing aaron that is the end of the first movie jesus in the in the tape he's wearing the peach fuzz mask and he has an axe and it's from a distance and it could be faked i guess i mean it. It's a movie. But I don't know. I feel like I would take his word for it. Yeah, I'm buying it if I'm in this situation, which I wouldn't be in a million years.
Starting point is 00:50:53 In a million years. And as he's watching himself approaching real Aaron with the axe, he's singing, I might look like a big bad wolf. And then he turns back and looks at her and says, but I'm as friendly as a rabbit. Really creepy. And he finishes showing her the video, says, what did you think of that? And she says, I think it's interesting and this like could be an interesting movie and he says did it scare you and she says did you want it to scare me she's not like falling into any of his expected reactions and you can tell he's like fascinated by this and we're unsure of if she's
Starting point is 00:51:43 actually interested if she's just figuring out that that's something that might throw him off. We're not sure. But they are two people in the middle of a creative rut and they're interested in each other. Anything can happen when you get those two kinds of people together. Nothing could be higher stakes than refining your creative voice. He says, I'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And we get her first moment alone. And so she like in the camera says, what the fuck? And is panning around the room. We see the axe above the fireplace and it's really quick he comes right back so we just get a moment of like she's at we at least know she's freaked out um but playing it very cool he comes back just in a towel and he says he stands in front of her and he's like framed in the in the frame full a full body shot of him in the towel and he's like framed in the, in the frame full, a full body shot of him in the towel. And he says how men in locker rooms can, you know, like hit each other with towels and it's very playful and
Starting point is 00:52:52 fun. And like women have a good time with each other in the bathroom. It's like a bonding thing. He's like, but between men and women, there's always a barrier to the intimacy, to that sort of intimacy, because somewhere in in you you're always wondering what does that person look like naked and i will admit i have had that thought here today and so i think it would be best if we see each other naked and just get that out of the way she's like how do you how do you feel about that she says says, yeah, fine. Good. And he drops the towel. We get full frontal Mark Duplass. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And then a hundred percent of people want to fuck him after that. Yeah, this is when they all wrote the articles. They paused the movie and they were like, a hundred percent is the best movie I've ever seen. Nothing negative to say. And he's clearly trying to freak her out, obviously. And he's seeing that it's not having that effect. So he stands there for a very uncomfortably long time, just naked. They're just looking at each other. I timed it. It is 40 seconds. Feels very long. And then she says,
Starting point is 00:54:00 okay, is it my turn now? And he's very thrown off by this. He's like, what? And she's like, hold the camera. It's my turn. And he sits down looking very confused and films her strip all of her clothes off. We don't get full frontal of her, but we do see her boobs. But he zooms in on her face as she's undressing and
Starting point is 00:54:20 then we see her just staring back at him, looking completely unafraid and unfreaked out. Great. Good for her. Hell yeah. And she's like, all right, let's start making the movie. She excuses herself to go to the bathroom and we get her first little talking to camera. And she says, OK, obviously, like every red flag I have is up.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yeah. Like when he told you he's murdered 39 people. Yep. Yep. It's kind of one of the i wouldn't call that a red flag i would call that um calling the police uh yeah like a giant billboard a big red billboard yeah yep she says that she thinks he's harmless but he might be dangerous because she's like clearly doesn't believe him that he's. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:06 she thinks must think that he's like a sociopath, but maybe not one who's killed people. Yeah. And so she's like, I'm not an idiot. She shows us she has a knife in her shoe. Yeah. That'll,
Starting point is 00:55:15 that'll save you. That'll save you. And she's like, I'm going to see what happens. I'm going to continue on. So we at least see that she's not running for the door. She is here of her own choosing. That's not good. I will say it's refreshing to see this dynamic. It's really fun. It's very unexpected. It's fun to see someone be unfazed by a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I love to see that. Yeah. It is fun. So she comes out of the bathroom. He jumps out at her. Big jump scare. She doesn't flinch. I went to a haunted house this October with a friend who has no jump reflex or like scare reflex. Whoa. It's so interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And she also does not have one. I didn't know that was possible. I know. Like what? What does that mean? I have an outsized large one. I screamed't know that was possible. I know. Like, what? What does that mean? I have an outsized large one I screamed every single time, even if no one was jumping out at me sometimes. Is it a full freeze reaction? Is she just
Starting point is 00:56:15 frozen? Or is she just not bothered? She just looks calm. She just doesn't get startled. Yeah, she just doesn't get startled. She's like, okay, are you ready? And he says, oh my god, that's get startled. She's like, okay, are you ready? And he says. Oh my God, that's so weird. He's like, tough nut to crack, huh? And she notices a bald spot in his beard and asks him about it.
Starting point is 00:56:34 And he says, he's kind of weird about it. He's like, that's just my beard pattern. Guys, beards grow in different ways. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Then they head for the door. They're going to go outside to film something. And he jumps, scares her again. Still't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Then they head for the door. They're going to go outside to film something. And he jumps, scares her again. Doesn't still doesn't get her. He's like, really? Damn. He's like, all right, I'll get you eventually.
Starting point is 00:56:52 She says, we'll see about that. Cut to them driving. And he is wearing the peach fuzz mask as he's driving and is asking her, so what do you feel about, how do you feel about this mask? And she's like, well, as a passenger, I don't feel great about it because I feel like you probably can't see very well. But other than that, I think it's a cute mask. And he's like, is it not, don't you think it's kind of a scary mask? Like the wolf? Yeah, she's like, it's like a cute wolf mask. And he's like, what if I told you I was a naughty wolf? And she says that that could be scary if he was a naughty wolf. And he says, what if I told you at the end of this road I was going to cut off your head and snuggle fuck it?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Ew. Ew. Haven't heard the term snuggle fuck. No, no. Don't love it in this context. Not in this context. It's definitely in the same universe as mumble gore, though. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Snuggle fuck, mumble gore. I can't remember how she responds, but she's not as freaked out as she should be that much as soon. as freaked out as you should be that much as soon. So they get out of the car to their he's picked out a filming location that he's excited about where he wants to do his his main interview and he gets there and it's
Starting point is 00:58:14 next to a river but the river water level is way lower than when he scouted it. He's really upset. Freaking out like this is not going to be good. Like god damn it. The movie's ruined we don't have a scene here and sarah says aaron and he looks over at her and she goes coppola she says what she says francis ford coppola what would francis ford coppola do and he gives her a
Starting point is 00:58:42 look like a nod and damn it sar Sarah, you're right. And he rethinks the scene and he's, he, they figured out he sits in the water for the scene. It's a very strange choice, but he seems pleased with it. Um, there's a lot of sound happening, planes flying by birds chirping. He's getting very frustrated with the audio quality. He gets up and goes to take a break. He stays. He's gone for a while. So Sarah goes to look for him and hears grunting in the woods.
Starting point is 00:59:20 She's looking, you know, the cameras panning left and right in the woods. We're really expecting a jump scare here, but there wasn't one. But she's just hearing this groaning sound, follows it and finds him laying face down in the dirt, just groaning. And she reaches and holds his hand and he says, don't leave. They hold hands, cut to her back at the house it's nighttime now she's talking to camera she says aaron has been playing the same song on repeat for two hours he's in a really fragile state right now i'm gonna go talk to him he like hasn't been wanting to talk to me i'm gonna go try to figure out what's wrong. She takes the camera with and goes and sees him, finds him sitting in a hot tub, blasting this song. She, she pauses the song and like turns it off and he says, put that back on.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And she says, why? And he says, because it's my favorite song in the world and I need it because I love it. Wait, who was the person? Wait, what's the song? That someone, it just came out that it was someone, their wife was really upset that their husband kept playing. Stephen King.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It was Mama No. 5. Stephen King's wife almost left him because he wouldn't stop like Mama No. 5. She's asking him questions and he's telling her, you don't want to know my story. He's also telling her she should leave. She says, I'm not leaving. You said we, once we start, we can't stop. There's no turning back. Like we're going to figure this out, Aaron. So she's like, tell me, tell me your story. Tell me your deal. And she's filming him as he talks about when he was a teenager, he was at this show and really loved
Starting point is 01:01:07 the band. And it was the first time he felt like he belonged. And he was outside with them after the show. But then they had to leave to go to another town because they were touring. And so he hitched a ride back home. And a guy, the guy that picked him up, he said something that I'll never forget. As soon as I got in the car, he said, today's going to be a good day. He says that the man took him to the middle of the woods, beat him within an inch of his life, tied or made him dig his own grave. He's like, and as he was doing this, I was thinking I should really not like this. This is not a good situation, but I loved him. He was magnetic. He took control of the situation. I was inspired by him,
Starting point is 01:01:57 but he wasn't very good at tying knots. So I was able to get my hands free. I strangled him, watched the life, leave his and realized that this is that was my destiny. And I laid there next to him all night long. And it felt like a spiritual exchange. And I lied to you earlier about my beard. A condition called trichotillomania, which is when you pull out hairs. And one of my victims had that. And I, since my spirit consumed his spirit, I now do that. He's like, each of my victims, I take something from them and incorporate it into my own spirit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And he's looking, he's looking very upset as he is telling this story because it used to be such a beautiful thing. And now that thing is gone and that's why I'm sad. So you really should go because tonight is going to be a very bad night. She sets the camera down, filming the jacuzzi and gets in with him in all of her clothes. Starts massaging him. He's moaning and grunting in pleasure, resisting it at first, but then kind of looks like a
Starting point is 01:03:18 little baby in her arms as she's massaging him. Wow. This is a fascinating woman. Fascinating. She goes to take a shower. He grabs her camera and is saying, you're making me feel things I thought I would never feel again. I don't know what to do about it.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And he films just a big knife on the floor and then carries the camera with him as he goes to the shower. And he's reaching about to pull back the curtain when she jumps out at him. Big jump scare with tape all over her face. You know, when you can like tape your nose up and make a funny little weird little face. She has tape all over her face. She scares him really good. He falls over. They're both laughing. She's like grunting over him. Also now it's just really not what you thought she was going to do. No, no.
Starting point is 01:04:08 They're a match made in heaven, maybe. I know. It's romantic. Is this a rom-com? This is the problem. This is the problem. This is when I'm like, I can fix him. All I need is some tape on my face.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Easy. Easy peasy. Match made in heaven. They are later talking. She says, is there a part of you that wants to kill me right now like be honest with me and he's like well yeah of course like i'm a serial killer like duh but then we wouldn't be able to have all the fun that we're having they're in um uh playing pool now in a little little billiards room with a fun castle looking wallpaper in the back and she's interviewing him
Starting point is 01:04:48 some more and saying do you feel remorse for the victims that you've killed and he says hmm sometimes but not really because I think I give my victims like a lot of fair warning and if they wanted to leave they could have and
Starting point is 01:05:04 so not really oh my god and he describes how with his past victim we know is aaron he called him buddy he calls he says when i my last victim buddy i left a big axe out in front of the front door when he entered so that he would have to see this like huge weapon. And he didn't say anything about it. And then I killed him with the axe. And so that's on him, essentially. Oh, my God. And Sarah says, does this mean you're going to kill me with a blender? And he smiles and says, I've never thought about that as a weapon, which is a fun little reference to your next another mumble gore film. Then we cut to them in back in the house in the living room and she is pouring him some wine. And we just hear him in the background being like, where's mommy's juice?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Mommy needs her juice. He pours him a big cup of wine, hands it to him, he says, this better be a Coppola wine. That's funny. She asks him what he's been thinking about and he says, I was thinking about a book I read called The Journalist and the Murderer.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And she's like, what's that book about? And he says, oh, it's about the moral quandary that a lot of journalists face where you have to lie to the people you're interviewing, kind of flatter them or flirt with them to gain whatever you need for the article they're writing. Or if they're making some sort of YouTube show like something called Encounters, maybe. And reveals he has called Encounters, maybe, and reveals he has seen Encounters. And he says, first of all, I want you to know everything's okay and I'm not mad. Oh my God. Oh my God. And he says, be honest. Do you believe that I'm a serial killer? And she says, no.
Starting point is 01:06:59 He says, okay, why not? And she says, the stories you've been telling are ridiculous. says, okay, why not? And she says, the stories you've been telling are ridiculous. And why if you were a serial killer, why would you have me film you confessing everything? Because you're going to kill me. And he's like, that's a good question. She's like,
Starting point is 01:07:15 I could go to the police tomorrow. And he's like, you won't go to the police tomorrow because tomorrow I'll be dead because tonight you're going to kill me. She's thrown by this he come he he runs off goes and gets his peach fuzz mask and the axe and comes back and lays on top of the table with his head hanging off the edge hands her the axe and is like okay just chop off my head now and the axe is sharpened so it should go right through there's barely any bones in the neck so it should be pretty easy she obviously doesn't do it he's
Starting point is 01:07:51 annoyed and has to figure out another way to die in front of her and so he uh hangs up a noose and is on the little second store second second floor balcony about to jump off. And he's explaining to her that because you're standing there filming, you'll at least be in a, if you won't kill me, you'll at least be an accomplice to the murder. And he jumps and he's like, uh, choking, getting strangled. And she freaks out, runs and runs and grabs him, pulls him down. And it cuts to her like furious now, putting her shoes on, getting ready to go.
Starting point is 01:08:35 This is what did it. And he comes up and says, Sarah, did I freak you out by hanging myself? Sarah, did I freak you out by hanging myself? And he shows her that he was wearing a harness and he was never actually choking. And he says, I want to make your show the best show it can be. It's going to make such a good episode of encounters. And he says, am I a murderer? No, of course not.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Am I a sociopathic, pathological liar that's completely disconnected from humanity? Yes. Oh my God. But I think you're incredible. And I want to continue making this movie together. And she's back on board. Wow, that's it. She smiles and says that we'll make a pretty crazy scene. So they're, they're, they're having fun again.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And they go back into the pool room and they're playing. She says, let's play two truths and a lie. You say three things. One of them is a lie. And I have to guess which one he thinks about it. He says, I was born three months premature. I've never slept with a woman and I can hold my breath one. He thinks about it. He says, I was born three months premature. I've never slept with a woman and I can hold my breath
Starting point is 01:09:48 for two and a half minutes. And she says, I think it's the breath one. He says, it's number two. Oh, no. And admits that he's never been with a woman, never even kissed a woman.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And she says, can I kiss you? Oh, God. You can be your first kiss and gives him a very, I don't know, it's like a sweet kiss. Yikes. He's got a big smile. He's like, wow, that was incredible. And she's asking him like, how have you not had a kiss before this is crazy and he says that he had a psychotic break when he was 14 and so he was institutionalized for a lot uh until he was 19 was this before after i guess that must have been after he escaped the uh serial killer great after yeah yeah after i think she's clearly feeling sympathy for him in this moment.
Starting point is 01:10:46 That's a mistake. Now we see they're, they're running around in the woods again, having fun. She's jumping out at him, scaring him. He's absolutely delighted by it every time. And he gives her the necklace that he had given to Aaron in the first
Starting point is 01:11:02 movie. That's a photo of him and Aaron inside of it, like a little heart pendant. And it's like, I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to get a photo of us to put inside of that. You were quite a surprise, but I just wanted you to have this. And we see he's leading her to a grave that he has dug. Oh god and he's like i thought of the grand finale for the episode it's gonna be really great um we're both gonna kill ourselves and die together like romeo and juliet and bury like die in this grave i've like dug our grave for us my god and we see he grabs the camera from her and is filming her now. And she is expressionless, essentially.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Just I guess we know from her previous actual relaxed face that she is terrified in this moment. But she is trying not to show that. And he shows her her knife. She like reaches down to her ankle. He's like, no, no no like this is yours i got it from you when when i fell on you when i was hanging myself snuck it out of your shoe oh my god so she has has no weapon he's filming her face as we just hear a bunch of stabs he stabs himself like eight times. Oh my god. And then
Starting point is 01:12:28 hands her the knife and is like I can't do yours. I love you too much. Like you need to stab yourself. Hands her the knife and she runs. She darts away. Oh my god. He's running after her and he's
Starting point is 01:12:43 bleeding out but he is still pretty fast and he catches up to her and gets her and he's bleeding out, but he is still pretty fast. And he he catches up to her and gets her and we hear more stabbing. And then we see her being dragged into the grave and he's talking to the camera now. He's like filming himself do this. And we see the wounds and it's like in his side essentially and he's like i don't think i'm gonna die from this i feel pretty bad about it because the whole thing was kind of my idea but you know sarah you did it you made the the best episode of encounters there ever was i'm so proud of you and i'm bummed you're not gonna be here to see it. And as he's talking to camera, we see her crawling out of the grave, grabbing, grabbing a shovel, moving very slowly towards him as he's saying, Sarah, you were you were my muse, my Coppola, you inspired me.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You inspired me. And she slams him in the head with that shovel. Blood like sprays onto the camera. She hits him very hard and runs away. And the camera falls cut to black. Come back up. Streets of New York. Looking at a crowd walking by a subway station.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Camera zooms in. We see Sarah looking a little different time has passed her hair is different and not sure what's happening but cut to the camera filming her on a subway
Starting point is 01:14:19 from across the seats like someone is sitting across from her filming her and she looks up into camera cut to black end of the movie wow wow yeah that is a hundred percent movie it's honestly it is so funny It's really very funny It's interesting because honestly By the time we're getting to the end there I felt myself being like you know what Sarah
Starting point is 01:14:51 You gotta die Like just being like I cannot believe you're still there Yeah Which I didn't feel that way about Aaron in the first one I felt like Aaron was really trying to like Not be a part of it Yeah pretty consistently tried to leave And I appreciate Sarah's way about Aaron in the first one. I felt like Aaron was really trying to like not be a part of it. Aaron was pretty
Starting point is 01:15:05 consistently trying to leave. And I appreciate Sarah's strategy, but she did not take the situation seriously enough. No. No, she did not. She was deluding herself. She reached a point where she was like, I have to believe he's not
Starting point is 01:15:21 a serial killer because otherwise this is too scary. And just being like, i have to make this youtube show i know absolutely not yeah and i mean she does a great job this this actress i feel like there's a way in which that performance could feel completely unbelievable, but she really does make it feel real, Desiree Akhavan. And I was very intrigued by her performance because it is having to do so much with a lot of silence and communicating things with her looks. And there is like clearly an attraction between them. And it's just this very interesting little character study of these two
Starting point is 01:16:11 people in a weird place in their lives that you can kind of see how she's getting caught up in this, even though literally everything is saying run far away. But yeah. And it was a very unexpected dynamic. I didn't, I, I knew that it was going to be a woman and i assumed it was going to tread a lot of the same ground that the first one did and i i think it's very fun that they went this direction with it yeah it's cool that they found a way to make a sequel that does feel really original from the first while still maintaining
Starting point is 01:16:45 the same vibe. Francis Ford Coppola would be proud. I wonder if he's seen it. He should, I wonder. Have you guys been seeing all the Martin Scorsese on TikTok? Martin Scorsese's daughter is on TikTok
Starting point is 01:17:01 and posts a lot of videos of him. It's pretty funny. You should look him up. How old is she? Don't say 12. Not 12, but she looks... Is his daughter or granddaughter? Oh, maybe granddaughter.
Starting point is 01:17:15 I don't know. She looks... I don't know. I just hope. I just hope she's... I mean, how old is he? You're right. It could be a daughter.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Easily. But they're pretty fun little TikToks of him doing silly TikTok stuff like dances and answering questions about what does dab mean? That kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Pretty funny. He's 81. He's 81. And it doesn't look like he has grandchildren. No, no. Yeah, it wouldn't be shocking. I feel like. No, it wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Al Pacino. Sorry to say. Sorry to bring that up again. But sorry to say he's a new dad. We don't need to get into that right now. I'm disappointed in my TikTok algorithm that has not fed me these Corsese videos. You got to check it out. Got to search for them.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Fix that algorithm problem. Get that in the mix. Sammy, thank you for telling me about Creep 2. Yeah, thank you. Also also patrons for picking this one. The poll was all sequels and Creep 2 won by a lot. But there's some other fun sequels on there that we'll do eventually. And we'll do another poll probably for next week's episode. So stay tuned on Patreon for that.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Also, Mark, when Mark says he does have grandchildren, but I do think these TikToks are his daughter. I just did some brief, just real brief Googling in case anyone was going to get mad being like he does have grandchildren. Anyway, what also has Mark Duplass been up to since this? You know, I feel like he's always doing something Yeah, that's a good question I haven't seen him What are he And do he and Jay still make stuff together?
Starting point is 01:19:13 What are they up to? Jay was in industry He was great in it I do love him I love a pair of talented brothers Where's all our sister creative teams? Yeah, what the hell? That's a great question. Are there literally any?
Starting point is 01:19:29 I can't think of any. Why do brothers like to work together so much and sisters don't? Why come brothers like to work together and sisters don't? Why aren't the sisters working together? I mean, our friend Kim and her sister have produced things together. Oh Oh yeah there you go
Starting point is 01:19:45 But we need to get them Extremely successful now We need them to be Duffer Brothers Women everywhere need them Yeah we got the Duffer Brothers We got the Coen Brothers We got the Duplass Brothers We got the Safty Brothers
Starting point is 01:20:04 It is We got the Duplass brothers We got the Safdie brothers It is We got the Voltaggio brothers My favorite successful brothers We've got the Heim sisters We've got, thank god We've got the Heim sisters We've got the Williams sisters, we've got Venus and Serena Oh my god, we've got the Williams sisters
Starting point is 01:20:20 We have the Knowles sisters I mean, they don't work together But they do each have success Same, theiams i yeah i mean they used to do doubles yeah but it's the heim sisters is that's that's the that's what we're talking about yeah that's we need more of that we need more of that and also in film and television and in film and television sisterhood sisterhood sisterhood we Sisterhood. We need it. God, we need it. Oh, Mark Duplass is on The Morning Show.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Oh, right, right, right. Oh, that's right. I'm tempted to watch that. I've never seen it, but I'm tempted. I'm also tempted. I've heard it so bad that it's good again. Yes, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I've heard the same thing. I mean, I don't mind a soapy, soapy big drama like that. Like, that sounds fun to me. Yeah, I might check it out. And now that I know Mark Duplass is in it. Jon Hamm is in the newest season, so I'm into that. One central strange thing about the morning show is that Reese Witherspoon is supposed to be this, like,
Starting point is 01:21:18 young, young, I know, it's really funny. And she's the same age as Jennifer Aniston. We love you, but yeah, you guys are peers. So that's pretty strange. Yeah. Pretty strange choice. You didn't have to make it that way. Like you didn't have to No you literally made it up. You made up the show and you could make it something
Starting point is 01:21:34 different. No but I mean the entire show could be exactly the same. They just need to stop referencing the fact that she's like an up and comer. It's like she could have just been doing whatever. Anyway, she could have career pivoted and just be like new. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:21:50 And I'm sure that's our only note on the show. Other than that, that's all I've got. I think it's perfect. But I am. I mean, I'm definitely interested in a potential romantic storyline between Jon Hamm and Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, that's a hot couple. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm into that. Also, Greta Lee is in it. Oh, so fun Also Greta Lee is in it I love Greta Lee Does Greta Lee have any sisters? Great question And why aren't they Writing and directing Movies and television Hey I'm just going to throw it out there
Starting point is 01:22:20 People with sisters Why aren't you working together? Get it together I mean I guess technically I have a sister throw it out there people with sisters why aren't you working together get it together i mean i guess technically technically i have a sister you have very different interests i guess we gotta start a production company yeah no we're gonna start a production i think you have to we literally have to there's no two ways about it that's just for the good of humanity that's right that's right you gotta do it okay I love you guys. Okay. This was
Starting point is 01:22:46 a delight. This was a fun one. I had a great time. Glad you guys enjoyed it as well. I didn't even sing Creep once. Hope that Creep 3 happens. Fingers crossed. And no voices. I thought I could maybe do a jump scare goodbye. Like I say the phrase and then you don't know when I'm
Starting point is 01:23:02 going to say goodbye. Sure. Oh, I like that. i'll try to be really unexpected like not expecting it i gotta i need to put other things in my head like i'm definitely not gonna hear the word goodbye like one thing's for certain is that that's not a word i want to hear no right now i'm getting in that headspace okay great yeah so from all of us here at too scary didn't watch goodbye So from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye.
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