Too Scary; Didn't Watch - CREEP (Vault Episode)

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

Get ready for some Nathan-for-you-style horror cuz we're recapping the terrifyingly uncomfortable 2014 found footage film - Creep! This episode was originally recorded and released as a bonus episode on our Patreon in December 2021. Trailer Recap begins @ 13:12 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This episode was originally recorded and released as a bonus episode to our Patreon in December of 2021. If you'd like to become a patron, you can join at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Bonus episode for you, our patrons. Each time I feel like I see you trying to figure out what month it is and what... I am

absolutely doing that. And did you also watch me just give up and decide to not even say it? I like it. Improvising. She's an improviser, folks. I'm an improviser. Folks, that's what I paid so much money for. Was it worth it? You decide. Yeah.

I think it was. I think you're great. Don't ever change. Thank you so much. Oh, my God. I love you. Tony heads. I just wanted to start by some just old Tony chat.

Tony has a new movie coming out. Nightmare Alley. Oh, my freaking God. I haven't watched a trailer for it. I don't know if the trailer is even out i bet it is but just for we we all love tony it just seemed like we should shout out her new movie yeah this news this is news for us go support our leader of our inner circle whenever that movie comes out which i didn't look up i don't know when just you know keep it on your radar but i think soon i think so too probably okay it comes out, which I didn't look up. I don't know when. Just, you know, keep it on your radar. But I think soon.

I think so, too. Probably. Okay. It comes out December 17th, 2021. Hella soon. And there is a trailer. And that's all I know. Ooh, it has a real stacked cast here.

Yeah, this is definitely stacked. Wow. Rooney Mara. I feel like Rooney Mara's not in content anymore. What happened to her? You know? Yeah. She's back. And Bradley Cooper's in this one. And apparently this was maybe going to be

Leo, but he turned it down. And then so was the role in Licorice Pizza was going to be Leo. But instead it was Bradley Cooper. So I don't know. It's interesting. Bradley Cooper just getting Leo's leftovers, huh? Scooping up. Scooping them up. Scooping them up. Hey, not a bad. Making a meal out of it.

You know what? Good for you, Bradley. Good for you. Yum, yum, yum. Mmm, yummy. Love those Leo leftovers. Okay, let's keep going with this. I paid so much money to get trained in comedy. Wait, speaking of Bradley Cooper, I just want to bring this up real quick.

I don't know. You guys might already know this, but there's kind of this insane like pocket of time where a bunch of people went to Georgetown around the exact same time. And they're all like super famous now. Like the university? Yeah. Georgetown University. So Nick Kroll and John Mulaney and Mike Birbiglia

were all at Georgetown around the same time. Georgetown. University. It's a very good school. It's a great school, but it's definitely not one you consider when you think about comedians or even entertainers at all. Bradley Cooper also went to Georgetown.

I can't remember her name. I think Britt Marling. Is that right? Yeah, Britt Marling. She who created the OA. Wait, am I thinking the right person? That's Britt Marling. Yeah, she was at Georgetown at the same time. It's just like this very strange phenomenon of like a bunch of people being and I don't know if there's been another moment where Georgetown has produced like so many people who became so successful so soon after who weren't like lawyers or politicians. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess. I guess so. I don't know anything about Georgetown. So I don't know. It's never been. My dad went to Georgetown. It's in Washington, D.C.

It's a very good school. It's very good. It's a Jesuit school. So it is like tied to our religion. And it's just a very like straight laced. It's like an extremely conservative. It's extremely conservative place. I think that's probably the best way to describe it.

It's a very, very white, conservative, wealthy university. So in that way, yeah, of course people are going to be successful. This list of white people is also successful who went there rich white rich white people

coming out on top imagine that imagine that so in that sense not that surprising but georgetown in like the type of people you imagine going to georgetown university is not like john and nick kroll necessarily yeah anyway i just wanted to bring that really relevant point up. Yeah. Thank you. I'm really glad to know it. Okay. Thank you for humoring me.

You guys are my friends. What if we did a bonus episode just about where people went to college? People we don't know who aren't in the movies that we're talking about. I think this is an interesting point. Do you guys not think this is interesting at all? You guys are just humoring me. You don't think it's interesting at all. I know that my tone is mocking, but I can't seem to turn that off.

But it doesn't reflect how I feel. It's just that this is interesting. It is. Validate me. I think it's interesting. Okay, fine. We can talk about the movie now Hey what are we talking about today What are we talking about today

I've heard that the movie is really scary That's what people keep commenting On the Instagram Well so okay Today's bonus episode Movie is Creep which came out in 2015. And you guys chose it. And it won by like a lot. I feel like I asked for suggestions. And this was the one that clearly was getting the most, the most likes, the most momentum. A lot of buzz. A lot of buzz. And funnily enough, I actually had just watched it like a month ago for the first time.

Oh, just for fun. Just for fun. You watched a horror movie we weren't even covering as an activity. You know what's so funny? I was telling Jenna this is that part of me feels guilty when I do that because I've done it a few times. I watched a movie called Daniel Isn't Real. I watched Gerald's Game and we're not doing them on the pod. Just like you're cheating on us. Yes.

And I feel like, oh, I feel like you're just enjoying yourself. How dare you? And so part of me when you guys chose Creep was like, oh, phew, I'm like, don't have to feel guilty about having seen it anymore, which also I'm allowed to do things for myself and I don't need

to feel guilty. Yeah, Sammy, that is wild for you to feel. There's truly no reason. I know, I know. But I just thought it was kind of funny that even part of me feels that way. So I thought I'd just tell you guys. Yeah, put it out into the open. Shine some light on it. That's good. But Creep is

directed by Patrick Bryce, written by Patrick Bryce and Mark Duplass, starring Patrick Bryce and Mark Duplass, starring Patrick Bryce and Mark Duplass, and it is streaming on Netflix. Okay, I have heard of this movie. This, I had put on my maybe list when I

was trying to watch some scary things around Halloween, and I was looking at lists of good streaming scary movies, and this is one that I deemed too scary to watch on my own just based on the one plot so not like little just tagline that i read of it so now i get to find out what happens which is great for me because i was interested but too scared which is sort of what we do sort of the whole thing baby sort of the whole thing i like

when marks you plus does scary things yeah so. So we kind of talked. Like in movies, not in life. I hope he doesn't do scary things in life. I hope not. And I wouldn't like it if he did. I wouldn't like that. But we talked a bit about mumble gore in our your next episode. And this also falls into that category. Mark Duplass and Patrick Brace are in that little mumble gore group.

And some other mumble gore movies are The Innkeepers and The House of the Devil, which were both also suggested by you guys. So just know that they're on our list. And I am curious. Another one is Blue Ruin, which I also just watched recently but i wouldn't call it cheater cheater the blue ruin is the one that's also directed by the director

of green room um and so i i had been really excited to see it for a while so i treated myself to it and i loved it but i wouldn't call it horror and I, I wouldn't even call it scary. It's just, um, violent. Oh, um,

okay. So creep has a 90% on rotten tomatoes. Hi. Very high. 74% on Metacritic and 6.4 on IMDB. Wow. We are all over the place. Okay. Wow, we are all over the place. I know. Okay.

Also, have you guys had creep stuck in your head since we started talking about... I've had it stuck in my head all day. No, Radiohead? Oh, now it's just... Oh, no, but that's fun. No. Oh, that's what I've stuck in my head. What is the other creep? Is it TLC? So I creep. Fuck. Yeah.

Creep. I've had a stuck in my head all day. Anyway. I didn't, but I will now. Okay. Me too. I couldn't find any budget or box office numbers. I think because I think it went straight to vod release actually i know that it i know that it did i know in my heart of hearts that it did okay if you feel it it's true we honor your

feelings but i still wish i could could have found the budget because this is uh i would guess in the paranormal activity range. Like this looks like a no budget movie. It's just these two guys with a video camera. It's found footage. So it's cool. It's that's interesting. Filmmakers.

So they clearly knew what they were doing. So I'm sure the budget was super low and I would be curious to know it, but... Somebody fucking tell us it. Yeah, there wasn't too much. I couldn't find that much trivia about it. It was apparently based on a conversation between Patrick Bryce and Mark Duplass, which I wrote down, but I don't even really know what to make of that piece of trivia.

A conversation where they came up with the idea for the movie? Were they talking about a movie to do and pitched it it's pretty funny it's pretty funny because it's like doesn't everything come right but they did talk about it i'm sure they talked about it at some point yeah it's like one of the only pieces of trivia that was on there and i was like i guess i'll write that down it's not very interesting but i don't know why it's really making me giggle wait a conversation wait you know what's funny about it is because most times when there's trivia like that it's like it came from a dream he had and like right it's like okay that's kind of

cool but it's like came from a conversation is yeah just how you think of ideas of things that's just what it is can you imagine if we were like yeah we came up with the idea for this podcast from a conversation and they put that

on our like trivia list. We were talking about this could be a podcast. And then we did it. Just from a conversation. Can you believe it? Unheard of. And then one other thing I was just thought was notable is that this movie is 77 minutes long. Real crisp.

Oh, that is nice but still some pretty heavy lifting for just two two folks you know yeah that's true and there is a creep 2 that has a hundred percent on rotten tomatoes what the fuck which i haven't seen yet but i will watch it and you know maybe I'll tell you guys about it. Maybe I won't because I get to do things for myself sometimes. Yes, you do. You do. You do. We support that.

And just like how much do you guys know about this movie? Not very much. I know literally nothing. Yeah, I read a little tiny thing about like, you know, a little blurb being like, this is a movie about this, but no more than that. Okay, let's watch the trailer at the end so that you guys can really experience this movie fresh. I want to experience it fresh. Okay, let's dive right in. We start with a character named Aaron driving into the mountains, talking to his camera.

It looks like he's driving to Big Bear or Arrowhead. That's kind of the scenery. This is Patrick Bryce. And he explains to the camera, like, okay, I'm on my way to this job that I got online, Like, okay, I'm on my way to this job that I got online, a thousand bucks a day to film some guy and said discretion appreciated. Like, I don't really know what to. So I guess I'll tell you about it. And I don't really know what to make of that. But, you know, it's a job.

Yikes. Yikes is already terrifying. This is bad. Yeah, no thanks. Yikes, it's already terrifying This is bad Yeah, no thanks Also, I know this isn't what I should be taking from this But can you imagine

Like only a man could accept that job Yes, absolutely Can you imagine being like, $1,000 a day, film me Discretion advised, come to my remote location I'd be like, oh I will die Which I guess is probably what is going to happen But I would assume so immediately Yeah, no, a woman would not do this.

But in Creep 2, I think it is a woman that, well, I don't know if it's the same plot, but I know that there's a woman in Creep 2. So just so you guys know. Okay, so he arrives at the house and it seems like there's no one there. It's like these long stairs up to a yellow door he's like there's the yellow door knocks on it nobody's there he's looking around he's kind of annoyed

like what the heck i drove all the way out here and he looks down into the yard and there's an axe like stuck into a tree trunk and he like zooms in on it and is like okay which like would you guys get weirded out by in the woods like i feel like that wouldn't is like, OK, which like, would you guys get weirded out by it in the woods? Like, I feel like that wouldn't even. No, you wouldn't even like think about it necessarily. I wouldn't even think about it. Not nearly as much as a thousand dollars a day. Come here, stranger.

I would just be like, that's where this guy chops his wood. Yeah. Yeah. But so he gets back into his car and is about to turn around and go back home when Mark Duplass jumps out like into his car window, like big jump scared, startles him. He's like, hey, are you Aaron? And he says, I'm Joseph. So sorry. He's in like jogging clothes.

He's like, sorry, I was out for a jog. I missed you. Like, I'm so happy you're here. Like, we're going to have so much fun today. And he's got like big energy. And Aaron is throughout this like pretty well, he's, you know, filming. So he's not talking a lot, but he's it seems like he's sizing up. Joseph doesn't know what this guy's deal is. So Aaron's on edge. Joseph is like loud and having a good time. He's comfortable and is stoked that this is happening. He tells, Joseph

tells Aaron, you have a really nice kind face. Like, I'm really glad it's you that came. And Aaron is immediately like a little weirded out by this obviously and joseph uh pulls him into a hug as he gets out of the car he's like this won't be weird by the end of today like we're gonna we're gonna go so deep today like a hug's not even going to be a thing we might as well get it out of the way right now they have a hug and they go inside and Joseph explains this is my family vacation home

and I have a inoperable brain tumor and I've been given two to three months to live and my wife Angela is home she's pregnant with our first kid. And I just want to make a, you know, I don't know if I'm going to make it to when they're calling the kid buddy. They don't know if it's a boy or girl yet, but I don't know if I'm going to be there when buddy's born. So I kind of just want to document my life, my day, so he can have something of me to get to get to know me by all of this is great i love it so far yeah so so aaron softens at this and is like okay this is um you know a seemingly good reason for the situation oh boy and jose, you know, just keep the camera rolling the whole time. And we're just gonna have something to for buddy to remember me by. So he can see me the way that

I was. And he pays him up front. He's like, let's just get this out of the way too. And Aaron says, okay, thank you. Great. And Joseph says, okay, great. I'm going to get in the tub. Come on. And runs upstairs. And Aaron is confused and filming him as he undresses in the bathroom and is like filling the bathtub. And he's like, uh, are, are you sure? And he's like, yeah, yeah, we're doing, we're going to do tubby time. My dad used to do this with me. You're not going to get in the tub. It's like, just, just me. You're going to fill me in the tub. And it'll be like, so that buddy can see what it would have been like to have bath time with me. Cause that's something I always really loved when my dad did with me and again aaron's like okay this is so awful i'm sorry i'm like my heart's beating so fast i'm so scared i don't i hate this you know um one of our patrons

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slash too scary. Awful. Awful. Awful. Joseph says to Aaron, you know, we're going to go a lot deeper than this. So like just just get used to it. It's I don't love this logic of like we're going to go deeper. So get so get get fucking comfortable. Right.

It's like that's not how comfort works. But so they get he gets in the tub and we see him talking straight to camera, to Buddy. And he's putting a cup into the water and pouring it, like miming as if he's bathing Buddy and washing his hair. And it's like sad and sweet. And he's playing with him like as if he's got ducks. He's like, do-do-do, boop, like playing hide and seek. And then he lays back and he's like, okay, it's my favorite time. There's candles around the bathtub.

And he lays back with an invisible baby on his chest and like looks down at the, where the baby would be and looks right into the camera and, or like sees where the, he thinks the baby is looking. He's like, oh, you like the candle? You like the candle, huh? And then he looks right into the camera and he's like, he's looking at the flames, buddy, you like those flames, don't you? Like, it's all just very, it's like he's like he's looking at the flames buddy you like those flames don't you like it's all just very it's like so so intimate and uncomfortable and stressful um and then he lays back and they're having like uh just the the resting part of bath time. He's showered him and now they're just cuddling in the water. And then he turns to Aaron and he's like, it seems like what a waste. Why would I even want to go through the next couple months?

I could just end it right now if i wanted to like why am i doing this to myself then he sinks down under the water and holds himself underwater and aaron gets up and is like joseph joseph and joseph bursts out of the water and goes like there's so many annoying jump scares in this movie of joseph and joseph bursts out of the water and goes like there's so many annoying jump scares in this movie of joseph just being a freaking freak and like just with aaron um but he jumps out of the water and he's like oh my god oh my god oh i'm so sorry that was a joke that was a joke oh my god look at your face like you look so stressed like i'm so sorry he's like it felt like the mood was getting really tense and i thought that we should i should lighten the mood a bit by pretending that

i was committing suicide in front of you hilarious um and then he goes okay i'm sorry that i took it too far let's go get some air and starts getting out of the tub. And he says, let's go outside. You'll need a jacket, though. It's cold out. You can go to my closet downstairs and grab a coat. And Aaron says, okay, starts going downstairs. And he pulls open the closet. And there's a wolf mask that's also a jump scare. It's like right in full frame of the camera as he opens the closet. This wolf face, just like a scary wolf face looking back at him. He screams and Joseph comes down to see what's going on and he says, oh, you found peach fuzz. And he says, this is great, actually. You're going to love this, buddy.

And puts on the wolf mask and says that, again, his dad used to do this with him. There was even a song about Peach Fuzz. And he starts doing a little song and dance. It's long, too. I feel like it's like two minutes of him just singing and dancing with the little wolf mask on about Peach Fuzz, the friendly wolf. And it's just like so uncomfortable and yeah and so then they're like okay well now we're gonna go we're gonna go on a hike there's apparently a hike called the healing waters hike we're at the end of it there's like

a little stream or something that you can go put your feet in. It's supposed to be healing. So they set out to go do that. Don't go on a hike, man. That's fine. Okay, you're doing it, but just don't. Think about not doing it. Aaron is following Joseph on this hike, and Joseph is just, like, fucking with him. Like, he'll just run up ahead, too fast and aaron's like i can't

keep up with you and he's like come on aaron come on aaron like just a little bit further over here and he's like he he he like he's being so weird um aaron's getting annoyed and scared you can tell and then he says like how far have we gone do you know the way do you know where we are are we lost they're just going deeper and deeper into these woods aaron obviously has no idea where he is he's never been here before and so it's like obviously very scary for him and uh joseph turns around to aaron and says do you have any peace you need to make before you die? Like, do you need to make peace with anyone before you die? And Aaron says, maybe my ex. And Joseph says, your ex. And he says, no, my ex-girlfriend.

And he's like, I thought you said your axe, like an axe, like a chopping axe. And he's like, by the way, Aaron, did you see my axe in my front yard? And Aaron says, oh, yeah, I did notice that. And he says, can I ask you something? And you just be completely honest with me. And Aaron says, okay. He says, when you first saw that axe did part of you think i was gonna kill you with it and aaron says yeah part of me did and joseph just starts laughing

and laughing he's like oh my god you really did oh that is so funny aaron that is so funny oh jesus and then he like runs up ahead again and aaron's trying to keep up with him and he loses him and yeah i know at this point just turn around um he loses him and then the camera's just panning around in the woods, like yelling like Joseph, Joseph. And he doesn't know where he is. And of course, Joseph eventually pops out again. I gotcha. And this time, I guess Aaron looks really mad. And Joseph says to him, oh, for a second there, you kind of looked like you wanted to kill me. I saw some fire in

your eyes, Aaron. And Aaron's like, no, no, I'm just like, I just, you scared me. And Joseph's like, no, there's a little, there's an animal in you yet, Aaron. Like I see some fire behind your your eyes and then they get to the healing waters they eventually find it and but as they find it it's joseph stands on the edge of this cliff and he's like aaron aaron come here come here i see something over here and i was like just so stressed like don't go walking over to the edge of that cliff with that man but he does and joseph just points out there's a formation in the rocks of a heart it's like a heart pool and it is cool like it looks it looks like a perfect heart carved into rock. And Joseph gets quiet. He's like, you know what that is? That's a miracle.

That's a true miracle right there. And it's like, come on, let's go put our feet in those healing waters. And they set the camera down on a rock so we can see both of them now getting their feet wet. And Aaron seems to be lightening up a bit in this moment as well. They seem like they're having fun for a second. Emily. Emily looks mad. It's crazy how on edge I am.

I know, me too. It's very stressful. I am. It's crazy how on edge I am. I know. It's very stressful. So then after they wash their feet in the healing waters, they they hug and looks like they're have. Joseph looks like he's having an emotional moment, you know, reflecting on the cancer that he's going to die soon.

Buddy like and so it makes Aaron soften. And so they hug and they have a nice moment. And Joseph then is like, okay, let's get out of here. Do you want to go? There's a diner around here. Like we can go get, let's go get some food. And so they go to a diner and Aaron is still filming Joseph. And there's a moment in which, as Joseph was suggesting this diner, he's like, oh, this place is the best. You're going to love this place. And then when they get there, Joseph looks at the menu and is like, let's see, what do they have here? What kind of stuff do they have here? And it's just subtle, but it's like, oh, he's never been here before mm-hmm mm-hmm fuck

is any of this true Aaron doesn't really catch it he kind of does but doesn't make a big deal he's like oh he's like I thought you said the pancakes were really good and Aaron or Joseph says yeah yeah you're right the pancakes yeah I

why mess with a good thing like the pancakes are what I like. And gets the pancakes. ashamed of and aaron thinks for a bit and he tells a story and joseph's like give me the camera give me the camera i'll film you this will be fun so they turn the camera around my son will love this yeah it is like we're getting into like a weirder and weirder like what like yeah is this for buddy what's happening um Turns the camera around onto Aaron, and Aaron starts telling a story about how when he was younger, he used to pee his pants a lot. And so they gave him a device that straps, I guess, to your penis. And when it feels wetness, a beeping goes off on your wrist, like a little connected to a watch on your wrist.

How would that help? Once it's wet, aren't you? I think, yeah, that's true. That's true. It feels like similar to like potty training kids where a lot of reasons why like that new theory that is apparently really hot right now with potty training kids is um that you just let them walk around naked because that they fucking pee and shit everywhere and they realize when it's happening like i was like so much of like diapers make them not realize when it's happening i guess so and like that's why

they don't know to associate a certain feeling with, I need to go to a bathroom. So it seems like maybe that device is like doing that. It's letting you know, like, Hey, this feeling is you're about to, you're peeing. So like before it happens, go to a bathroom. Henley, are you going to let Silas pee and shit all over your house? Definitely. Um, but then I was also thinking about how i heard someone was telling a story about how like their daughter or or their sister or someone um just like maybe their parents took a similar tact but like she would only poop behind the couch she like refused refused refused to poop in the toilet. Did they put a little toilet behind the couch?

No, I think it was just like a terrible potty training thing where she like, for whatever reason, like only felt comfortable enough to poop like behind the couch and just refused to do it. So that's the danger of letting your kids just like poop and pee anywhere. So then what if they associate doing that somewhere in the house instead of in the bathroom? That's the only danger. Honestly, like you're cleaning up so much like pee and poop anyway. I had another coworker who was, well, she was like, she was like last night I was like trying to make dinner and Logan was making like so much noise and he was being so annoying. And like all of a sudden he was like slipping and sliding all around the kitchen floor. And I was like, how did you get like water down there?

What happened? And then I realized, no, he just peed everywhere and then was having like his own personal slip and slide through it. Oh, my God. So it kind of feels like it's going to happen no matter what. Yeah. Wow. Anyway. Wow. Anyway. Okay.

So he's telling this story. I don't really understand the monitor necessarily, but it's he says that he remembers a day on the playground with a bunch of other kids. He started peeing and this alarm started going off and everyone was looking at him and laughing and he's like and my pants were wet and this alarm just like wouldn't stop going off that's so much worse i know and so he's like that's the first time i remember feeling like really like a lot of shame and then it's Joseph's turn, and he's like, okay, my turn. He's like, I have something to tell you that I'm ashamed of.

Oh, God. And he pulls out his cell phone, scrolls to his photos, and just starts showing Aaron a lot of photos of Aaron arriving at the house, going up, knocking on the door when it wasn't answering, waiting in his car, walking up the steps. And Aaron is like, what the fuck? What is this? And Joseph says, I didn't know who you were going to be. I didn't know if I could trust you. I wanted to size you up before I decided to share this part of me with you, but it was wrong,

and I shouldn't have done that. And I'm really, really ashamed. And I want to be totally honest with you about everything. Like, you've been so good to me today. And, like, could you forgive me? I'm so sorry. I'm so ashamed that I did this. Okay. Yeah, that's Aaron's reaction as well. He's just like, yeah, okay.

Yeah, I guess we can put that behind us um and now it's night time and they're going back to the house and aaron says i think i'm think i'm gonna go home now he's at the bottom of the stairs as Joseph is kind of on the midpoint of the stairs, looking down at him all backlit. It's a really great shot. It's like very creepy. He's just a little silhouette. And Aaron says, like, I think I'm going to go.

Joseph says, no, you're going to go? What? Like, I was about to pour us a whiskey. And Aaron says, no, like, i'm i'm ready to ready to head home and joseph says come on like this has been a really emotional day i think we should commemorate our day with just a little toast um and then you can be on your way and um i'd like i need to film a little sign off for buddy like the film can't just end like i have to film a little sign-off for Buddy. The film can't just end. I have to film a goodbye.

What a perfect film for Buddy, too. Buddy's going to fucking love this film. Yeah, he's going to love it. So Aaron reluctantly agrees, goes inside. They have a glass of whiskey. a glass of whiskey. And they are sitting at the table and Joseph asks Aaron, why did you take this job?

And Aaron seems confused, like for the money. And Joseph's like, it's for the money, huh? For the money. You're like, are you struggling with money, Aaron? You having money problems?

Aaron says, no, not really. He's like, but you could probably use more money though, right? Aaron's like, yeah, I mean, always, yeah. And Joseph says, well, I have a lot of money, and I want to give you some money. And Aaron is caught off guard by this. He's like, no, that's okay. Joseph is like, we're friends.

And if you saw that I was hungry and you had food, wouldn't you give me food? I have an excess of something and you have a lack of it. We're friends. I want to give that to you. And Aaron's just doesn't totally know how to react to this. And then Joseph says, there's a check in your boot right now. And the camera like pans down and he reaches into his boot. And Joseph goes, I'm fucking with you. Like, no, there's not. And he's like, but the fact that you looked means that you want it and you need it. And let me give that to you. Like, I want that. I want to be able to do that for you. I want to I want to give you some money. I want to do that for you. Like, we're friends. And, you know, for the sake of, you know, i said i wanted to be honest with you i wanted to be honest and open with you i do want to tell you that i did lie to you about something um and i i just i i want to get it off my get it off my chest but this isn't this isn't for Buddy. So can you turn the video camera off? And Aaron says, okay.

So he turns the video portion off, but keeps recording audio. So this is all just black with subtitles so we can hear what Joseph is saying. And he says, I lied to you about peach fuzz. Peach fuzz. Wasn't from my dad. My dad didn't give me that. My dad didn't ever do that with me. Um, he says there's one night that I was trying,

I was trying to work and our internet was going really slow at home. Me and like me and Angela at our place. And someone said that our browser history was too full. And so I went through our browser history, and oh, Erin, the things I saw, horrible, horrible stuff. A lot of pornography, mostly animal pornography, people having sex with animals. And I didn't look at that stuff. And Angela is the only other person in the house. And so we were out here at our family home on vacation when I found this out, and I was so disturbed that I told her I got called into work, but I didn't get called into

work. I drove three hours into a town, and I peach fuzz i bought that mask oh my god okay and i came back and i waited until the middle of the night and i broke in through the bedroom window where my wife was sleeping and with peach with the mask on peach fuzz mask on and i tied her up and we proceeded to have the most passionate sex we've ever had uh she i've never seen her look so happy. And then afterwards, I left, and I came back the next day and asked her how her night was, and she said it was fine. And just sit in the silence of that story for a bit. And then Joseph says, I raped my own wife, Erin. Oh my God. Oh my God.

And then we just see the camera turning back on and Joseph smiling again and talking straight to Cameron like, OK, buddy, like, I hope you enjoyed this look into my life. I love you so much. You're like the greatest gift. And the camera just moves and gets up. And Aaron's like, OK, we got it. Like, I'm leaving now. And Joseph's like, what? Like like i didn't even finish my sentence i don't think i'd like to do another take of that i don't think we

got it aaron's like no no no we got it we got it and is looking around he grabs his jacket and of course he's like have you have you seen my keys where are my keys no no no no no no classic classic classic don't let those keys out of your sight my dude and Joseph says did I freak you out with my rape story Aaron did I freak you out with my rape story I'm sorry man I'm sorry

you can stay here it's dark you've had alcohol you should stay here you can go home in the morning when it's light. We'll be able to find your keys then. It'll be brighter. It'll be easier to see where they are. Aaron is looking really stressed.

Also, worth noting, Aaron is much bigger than Joseph. And so there's like so many times in this where i'm just like it's also very well we'll talk about this a bit at the end but so okay so he aaron is you can tell obviously scared wants to be out of there doesn't know what to do he's pacing around and then he kind of switches and he's like, okay, yeah, all right, I'll stay here. And the camera is set down on the table. So we see Joseph sitting at the table with his back to the kitchen, which is where Aaron is. Aaron's like, let me get us another glass of whiskey. And we see Aaron pouring the whiskeys and putting something in one of them. And he turns back with it,

hands that one to Joseph. Aaron's glass has like a finger of whiskey. Joseph's is like filled to the brim. And he's like, bottoms up. Joseph says, bottoms up, bottoms up with this cup. And he's like, all right, thinking we're having fun now and he downs the whole cup and it's like okay let's take let's take uh that goodbye again let's do another take of that and aaron says great sets the camera sets it up joseph starts saying buddy i love you so much starts fumbling over his words as he is he's like is it does that do you have a taste in your mouth do you have a taste in your mouth like this is whatever is in his drink is starting to hit him he passes out and i think he walks over to the fireplace before he passes out.

So he passes out. What did Joseph have on hand? No, or Aaron have on hand. Yeah, Aaron have on hand. That was my first thought, too. He's like, oh, good thing I keep my roofies in my pocket at all times. They do have a line to explain it that I think he finds Benadryl at the house, but also does Benadryl knock you out? No, definitely not. They call it Benadryl at the house, but also does Benadryl knock you out? Definitely not.

They call it Benadryl at one point. Maybe if you put a lot of it in there? But you would see Benadryl in whiskey if you put a lot of it in. Yes. Even if you put four pills in, I don't think it would knock you out. I guess I think of Benadryl

as liquid, as the pink. Oh, what is the pink? I'm thinking of pepto-bismol wait yeah benadryl is pink on the package but i don't think the things themselves are pink oh well the pills the pills are pink but i don't know there might be liquid benadryl too i don't know anyway who cares the point is he passed out the point is i've taken two benadryl before, and it makes you a little sleepy, but definitely does not make you pass out. Well, he passes out right in front of the fireplace, like on the little ledge in front of the fireplace. And Aaron starts feeling in his pockets, looking for his keys. He's patting around and can't find anything. And then Joseph's phone rings and Aaron takes it and goes into the bathroom and is whispering and answers it and says, hello. And it's a woman's voice. And Aaron says, Angela, is this Angela? And the woman says, yes, which I'm pretty sure this woman's voice is katie asleton i think

it's mark de plas's wife but she's uncredited but just a something i a theory i have um and he says this angela she says yes who's this and he says erin um your husband, I'm here with your husband. I think I need help. Like, I don't know what he's doing, but I think he took my keys. And she's like, my husband? Like, what are you talking about? And he's like, well, you're Angela, right? And she says, yes. she says yes and she says joseph is my my brother and he is not well like what are what are you doing there how do you know him and aaron says i came here to film him because of his brain tumor and she says aaron you gotta you gotta get out of that house. Just leave right now. And he says, he took my keys. And she's like, just go on foot.

Just physically get out of the house. Just don't stay there. How unwell is your brother, miss? Yeah, I don't know. Well, we're about to find out. But can you imagine being like, oh, yeah, that's my brother. Get out. No. Yeah, just don't be alone with him. Get out of house he'll hurt you he will harm you i call the police yeah also yeah

i hope she called the police call the police oh okay all right okay okay he hangs up and goes back into the living room and jose gone. Fuck. Oh my god. Call the police. Fuck. I wonder if he does call the police. I can't remember now. I don't think he does in this moment. He will later, but

not now. Oh my god. So he's got the camera. We've got a lot of the panning shots looking for Joseph. And it's very stressful. He opens the balcony sliding door and pans right and pans left and pans right again. And Pan's right again. At that left end, Joseph is right there. And Joseph's like, what did you give me, Aaron?

Why did you do that? He's out of it. Oh, God. And then Joseph starts crying. And he says, I don't want to die. I don't want to die, Aaron. I don't want to die. I don't want to die. I don't want to die, Aaron.

I don't want to die. And Aaron says, Joseph, I know that I know what's going on here. Like, I know you're lying and I know you need help. Like, can I take you somewhere? Like, I think you need help and I want to help you, which is crazy. But also maybe just a technique of trying to like be nice to him. He's like, I know you're suffering. I know you need help. Let me help you.

His sister said, get out of the house. I know. Get out. His sister said that to you. She said, get out. She didn't say, I'm coming. Oh, my brother. Oh, here's the deal with my brother.

She said, get out of the house. Get out of the house. It's not very helpful, sister. But it's also like, get the fuck out of the house. Yeah, don't try to help this man. Just get out. Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. And as he says, I know you're joseph gets this look in his eyes

like he's caught and he darts downstairs they're on the second floor and so aaron will need to go downstairs to get out of the house and so joseph has darted downstairs and it catches aaron off guard he takes a second to kind of grab his shit and grab his coat and he goes down after him and joseph is wearing the wolf mask blocking blocking the front door no uh aaron says joseph are you gonna let me are you gonna let me leave joseph shakes his head no and aaron says are you are you just trying to scare me and joseph nods yes and aaron says well it's where it worked man you fuck i'm fucking terrified i'm scared like what do you what else do you want right now? Like, I want to get the fuck out of here.

Like, you did it. You proved it. You proved that you fucking scared me. And Joseph starts growling and rubbing his butt in circles on the door. And he's, like, sexy, like, dancing on the door, grinding on the door growling and erin's like stop stop it stop it what are you why are you doing that and he's just like like rubbing his butt in circles on the door and then they run at each other camera falls down and we just hear a scuffle and it cuts to black.

Camera comes back on. A wide shot in the woods of Joseph dragging a big garbage bag through the woods. He has two big garbage bags and a shovel.

Gets to a place in the woods and starts digging a hole. And we sit on this shot of him digging a hole for a while. And then we hear, okay, so what we're looking at and the camera like turns around and we see Aaron back in his home. Aaron back in his home and turns the camera to show that we were watching that on his TV and that Joseph has sent Aaron this tape. And he's like, so he knows where I live. So that's not good. He's like, after, you know, I got out that night, I drove home. I got my keys and drove home. Nothing happened.

He didn't hurt me. But I just got this tape. And so I guess he knows where I live. He knows where I live. And I guess this isn't over. Aaron is very freaked out and sleeps that night with the camera set up facing him in bed. And he's kind of talking to the camera at one point and saying, I've been having like, this guy's gotten so in my head. I've been having these fucked up dreams. I had a dream. We were in a heart-shaped jacuzzi and

he was wearing the peach fuzz mask. And then I realized I was wearing a peach fuzz mask, too. But it was like a baby wolf mask. And then I looked down and my whole body is a baby. I'm a baby wolf. And he's giving me a tubby time. Oh, my God. Just fucking. Oh, my God. Just fucking. Oh my God. But just this kind of night vision-y look of the camera is really scary. The way that it's set up, you just keep expecting someone to be in the back of it. Yeah, pop out through the back. It doesn't.

We see the next day a big box is delivered to Aaron's house. He opens it. Right on top is a big knife and a little DVD that says, Watch Me. And he puts it in. It's another video from Joseph who says, I'm sorry about the last tape. I reacted from a place of anger i wanted to scare you um but that was not right of me that was fucked up and i i'm sorry and i just wanted to get you this gift to apologize and if you have like you've obviously found the tape probably found the. But if you haven't found the third gift, like look in the box again. And he digs around in the box and there's a stuffed animal wolf.

And Joseph says, you know, I said I saw that wolf inside of you. And I know that there's I know that there's a wolf inside of you, and so I want you to let that out with that knife on that wolf, because you'll never know what you find inside of it. Something like that. But he's basically telling him to let out his animal urges by stabbing this little stuffed animal wolf with the knife he has provided. Aaron looks like, I'm not going to do that, and just starts ripping with his hands, rips the stuffed wolf open and pulls out a locket. And it's a little heart locket with a photo of each of them in it. And he shows it to you. Creep.

Yeah. Just do it to the camera and says, okay, time to call the cops. And he calls the cops. Yeah. And we just hear his side of the conversation where he's like, I'd like to report a stalking. hear his side of the conversation where he's like, I'd like to report a stalking. And a person is sending me threatening videos. And his name is Joseph, or at least I think his name is Joseph. He might be lying about his name. No, I don't know his last name. What do you mean you can't do anything without a first or last name? Like, this guy's following me. I feel like I'm in danger. And we just hear that the cops are not really, they're like, we can't do anything if you don't know who he is or where he lives.

And he's like, oh, I looked up the place that I met him at and it's just a rental place. He doesn't own it. He's not like he, so he truly doesn't know who this man is. And the cops are like, well, we can't really help you then. That night in bed again, he is on edge talking to camera. He's like, I'm like a little freaked out to fall, even fall asleep. And I like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do about this guy

and do you have like a friend yeah i know yeah that would help a friend would help um and he hears a noise and he like jumps out of bed turns all the lights in the house on he's like lights on lights on lights on like pacing around the house he's like hello joseph if you're here like stop it like what do you want and i haven't i have the knife still like i'm holding the knife don't like even try to fuck with me and the camera's just set up in his room so we can see through his bedroom doorway to the front door and aaron is standing there and then walks to like do a lap of the house to to inspect and as he moves away from the front door we see joseph just standing at the front door looking inside watching Aaron and as we see Aaron come back into the room

like closer to camera Joseph sees his movement too and like ducks like runs out of the way of the door so Aaron doesn't see him but still opens the front door to try to no to inspect further what the noise was.

And he's got the camera with him, so now he's walking down the little alley between houses and looking around. He doesn't see anything except his trash can is knocked over. And he doesn't know what to make of it and so he's like okay fuck it goes back inside locks all the doors again and yeah well and then sets we see the camera turn on at night time in his room he's sleeping he is not the one that is turned on the camera and the camera someone picks up the camera

and just films him and like tracks the camera down his whole body it like lifts up the blanket to just show his feet which is really creepy films his feet and then cuts off a piece of his hair and then sets the camera down. Aaron wakes up the next morning and he has a new video delivery. Joseph has cut a hole in his screen of his bedroom window and shoved this little DVD through there.

screen of his bedroom window and like shoved this little dvd through there and there's a new video of joseph talking straight to camera and he says you know he holds up the first video dvd of him with the trash bags to camera and he's like i can see why you would throw this away this video was upsetting and i apologized for it but i can see why you'd be mad about it and want to throw it away. But this, and he holds up the locket, he's like, this was a gift that came straight from my heart as a peace offering. So for you to throw that away really hurts my feelings. I'm a lonely, sad person, Erin, and you're the only person that has been nice to me. And I know I haven't treated you right, but I'm so alone and so lost. And I just wish I could do over our relationship. I truly gave that locket to you because I want to make it right.

And I want to be friends. And I need someone in my life. And so if you would be willing to meet with me at a lake, at a public place in daytime, like there'll be people around, you can tell people where you're going. Like there's no risk. You just come, like, we can talk it out. And like, I want to make this right. you just come like we can talk it out and like i want to make this right and for some unknown reason i guess aaron is like i don't know how to make this end and so he's yeah maybe this will make it end so aaron goes he sets up the camera to film himself from a from a distance so he's at this bench at the end of the lake that he's meeting

joseph at so he's the only one in frame aaron sitting on this bench facing the water and we see aaron walk up behind him sorry joseph walk up behind him and he's got his peach fuzz mask. He puts his mask on and pulls out his axe and he just stands behind Aaron for a while, just looking at him. Aaron inexplicably never turning around and looking for this man that is stalking him and making his life miserable. And Joseph does, lifts the axe, does a little like practice, like aiming it right for Aaron's head and then pulls it back and swings it down right on aaron's head aaron slumps over the shot looks really good for this being such a like low budget like this looks like a man getting axed in the head and it shows it shows that it can't like cut because it's nobody is in this moment operating the camera. And Aaron dies. What?

Then we cut to now. Does no one in this public park see this man? I guess not. Not public enough? Not public enough. not public enough and then we cut to uh we see now that joseph is watching this tape of him killing aaron and he says to camera like aaron it was it was smart of you to film that but like why did you never turn around like why wouldn't you turn around That seems so weird to go to meet me and then just kind of look at your phone like this. And you know here yeah the job it's easy like you just come and film me like all you need is a video camera a thousand bucks for the day he's walking over to a closet opens the closet takes the tape of aaron that's labeled aaron and puts it in this

closet that is just filled with videotapes of all different names. Kevin. What? It's like a hundred tapes in there. And that's the end of the movie. What the fuck? What the fuck is this movie about? So like, what's up with the sister?

Right? Like, yeah, the sister like knows like knows yeah if you're that if you're that sister you're you're culpable here this is yeah i but yeah that's just what do you call assistance assistant murder assistant murder assistant murder oh well and also aren't like fuck this is what I want to know is there someone out there who's like a serial killer who is murdering a bunch of people who we don't even know about do you know what I mean

like can you really get away with murdering a hundred people in this way and no one no one knows about you or looking after you whatever I guess we have to throw throw our yeah rationale out the window here yeah i don't know but it's very stressful and a really genius little film because it's it's so simple and it's so scary and it's just we've talked before just like the scariness of strangers and like craigslist like this is why the rental was so scary it's like you put your life in strangers hands a lot um in today's world

and you just never know what's gonna happen yeah that's fucking scary i'm what I wonder what the second one is. Yeah, so the second one is a woman and so yeah, I'm curious about it. I will watch it. And Mark Duplass? And they are making a third currently. Yeah, that was very scary. Mark Duplass can play

creepy very easily. Yeah, he's very scary. March of Classics can play creepy very easily. Yeah, he's super creepy in it. But it's funny because it wasn't... I like... It's just an... It wasn't that scary? Yes, it's like an interesting kind of scary. The like Nathan For You brand of scary is really...

Because it's like you're just so uncomfortable the whole time. Well, Funny Games was like that, but way worse because it was so much more violent and like so much more drawn out. Where it's like someone just fucking playing with you and toying with you. And you're just like, yeah, watching it. Sammy, thank you so much. Wow. That was wow. We.

Yeah, I feel bad. And I need to I need to go have like a nice cup of tea or something. Yeah, that one's gonna that one is that one is something that made me very uncomfortable. Very, very uncomfortable. Yeah, it did

stick with me also because it's one that you'll think about when you're home alone. His eyes look good. No one pick up any jobs from Craigslist, okay? Definitely not. Or put on your fucking location services and tell a hundred friends where you're going. Have friends. Tell them.

All the time. All the time. But okay, you guys, we still have to watch the trailer. Oh, fuck. Okay. Oh, yeah. Let's do it. All right, we are leaving the flatlands and we are heading up towards the mountaintop.

The ad said $1,000 for the day. Filming services. Discretion is appreciated. Are you on the door? And realizing that no one knows I'm here. Hi! Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. I'm assuming you're Aaron.

Yeah, I'm Aaron. Joseph, oh my God. Oh my god. This is gonna be a good day. So the reason I've hired you is because I have terminal brain cancer, and I want you to film me to make a video diary for my unborn son.

You ready for this? Okay. Joseph, this is called an adventure. Woohoo! We don't know exactly where we're going. Woohoohoohoo! But I have a feeling. When you follow those feelings, great things can happen.

Don't ever forget that. Joseph? Woohoo! There was about two seconds there where it looked like you wanted to kill me. Joseph, I think I'm going to head back. You see my keys? One drink, okay? Bottoms up.

Ah! Hello? You need to get out of that house right now. Joseph. Joseph. Why do you look scared don't be scared it'll all be over soon oh my god i'm really glad we didn't watch that first because honestly it gives like kind of the whole movie away but but honestly, you knew from the fucking first seconds that this movie was being talked about like

that it was going to be bad. Mark Juppas is very creepy. So creepy. Oh my God. Him right at the beginning just being like it's going to be a good day. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Um, I don't know. I feel it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I don't know. I feel bad.

I feel bad. I mean, imagine watching it twice in one month. No, Sammy. That's what I did. Proud of you. I liked it. Proud of you. Wow. Okay. So, okay. Well, there it is.

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