Too Scary; Didn't Watch - CUBE

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Six strangers, endless rooms, and way too much math for a horror movie, we're recapping 1997's CUBE!  This is a Patron chosen film! Sign up for our Patreon if you'd like access to two bonus ...episodes a month, our back catalog of bonus eps (currently around 60 episodes!), trailer reactions,  listener-polls and more.  TRAILER Recap begins @ 26:48 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we have a patron chosen episode today. Ooh, boy. and we have a patron chosen episode today oh boy that i'm very excited about can't wait to freaking get into it with you guys but before we do did anything scary happen to us this week
Starting point is 00:00:56 okay so i'm going to talk about something that i should i should be i should stop talking about this but i'm i'm once again going to talk about Little Debbie snacks. And so people responded positively to this. A lot of listeners also love Little Debbie snacks. So you're not alone. Okay. Okay. So here's the deal, right?
Starting point is 00:01:18 Here's the deal. I've been eating these Little Debbie snacks. And I got the little cakes and then I got Zebra cakes I got like just regular Like birthday cakes and then zebra cakes Zebra cakes are better sorry they just Are so far Unmatched but Joel's mom had listened
Starting point is 00:01:37 And She had him Pass along to me that I should try Ding dongs Which are hadn't had ding dongs wait what's a ding dong so a ding dong a ding dong is are these like regional because I have never heard of zebra snacks and it's crazy to me that you've never heard okay case in point and it's crazy to me that you haven't heard of ding okay so I've heard of ding dongs but I I couldn't have told you what it is.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Like, I don't picture, when I hear the word ding-dong, I'm like, oh, some sort of sweet treat. But I don't see it in my mind's eye, you know? I think of a silly person as a ding-dong. Oh, a ding-dong. Okay, so she was like, you should try ding-dongs, which are basically, I think, like zebra cakes, but chocolate. It's chocolate cake with white filling. Yeah. In the same kind of shape.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And also, ho-ho, which is like a swiss roll right so anyway so i was like oh okay those let's see let's let's see what those are like those are made by hostess not little debbie and so then i went down a rabbit hole of like okay well what's better hostess or little debbie like which one has the superior and so i absolutely will be doing case that's what i did first was i just google searched you know little debbie versus hostess as you do found this incredible article written in may of 2022 i'll just show you little debbie hostess which one's better what what publication is this is julie's cafe bakery dog and you guys i was i'm gonna read you some excerpts from this article i was
Starting point is 00:03:07 crying and i were crying reading this because this article is presented as if it's like well you know it's like a new york times yeah and it's like well there's you know there's merits to both it's a matter of preference ultimately you know but it's absolutely written by somebody who fucking hates hostess snacks and And it's so, so funny. Okay, so. Okay, so first they talk about the companies themselves. Little Debbie isn't the same as Hostess. They are two different companies and brands.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Little Debbie is younger than Hostess and is family owned. The company has been passed from generation to generation in the same family on the other hand hostess is a corporate brand that expanded their acquisition rather than organically like little debbie the brand has existed for 103 years now it has gone through two bankruptcies little debbie has no hostess henley stick with us um it is also worth mentioning that little deb Debbie has more diverse products than Hostess. Some of the desserts that Hostess doesn't have are fig bars, oatmeal pies, and many other small cakes. Oatmeal pies! Taste-wise, it would be inadequate to say that one is superior to the other, as taste is personal.
Starting point is 00:04:19 What might be tasty to some may not be to others. Bought by many consumers, Hostess and Little Debbie have done a great job establishing their audience. Still, Hostess products are generally characterized by a thicker cake layer and not accentuating the filling as much. Little Debbie products tend to taste sweeter and fuller than Hostess's. Hostess products tend
Starting point is 00:04:38 to have a more intense aroma than Little Debbie's. Also, Little Debbie products have been described as moister and crumblier, and Hostess products have been said to be more dry and stable than Little Debbie's. Also, Little Debbie products have been described as moister and crumblier, and Hostess products have been said to be more dry and stable than Little Debbie's. Ooh, stable. That's bad. My God, we have to have a poll
Starting point is 00:04:53 on the Instagram. I really want to know. I really want to know. The Hostess cupcakes are drier and denser than Little Debbie cupcakes, and the filling in the middle isn't expressly flavorful. Considering that they are dry, the filling is a much-needed palate refreshment, but sadly, it doesn't do enough. On the other hand, Little Debbie cupcakes are moister and juicier with an expressive filling in the middle.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Juicier! Oh, she talks about how juicy they are like four times. It's so man. Oh my god. This is... It's a really long article, you guys. This is making me feel so many nostalgic feelings. So many memories of
Starting point is 00:05:37 my childhood are bubbling to the surface thinking about Hostess and Little Debbie. I mean, I... Just the idea be somewhat regional oatmeal pie like i'm not familiar with little debbie at all not at all no i've never heard of it until you have you heard of an oatmeal pie i can kind of picture what it might be but it's like two oatmeal cookies with like cream on the inside oh yeah yeah yeah so i guess what's scary is i i thought i'd be over this by now and i'm i'm absolutely not i cannot turn into like a hobby it's like a hobby now um so i really
Starting point is 00:06:12 thought i'd be over it i thought i would you know not need them anymore and i did hit a moment where i was eating one of the cake ones that just a straight straight up birthday cake one and i was like about halfway through it i was like oh my god i'm sick of this i don't want it anymore and i was so thrilled i was at school i texted joel and I was like, I'm sick of it. It happened. I'm free. But I still had zebra cakes left. And then the next day I had a zebra cake.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And all I wanted was more zebra cake. And I can't stop. And now I have to try ho-hos and ding-dongs. You have to. You have to. Anyway, I would love to know if people have taste tested or familiar with both what's better also regionally have you heard of one and not the other i've heard of i'd heard of both but i'm definitely more familiar with little debbie so
Starting point is 00:06:56 you know yes sound off in the comments and up in the comments and um i'm unwell um so speaking of childhood nostalgia okay so i have been rereading all of my childhood diaries oh my god oh huge huge and it's so funny what a weird little freak i am. I'm really delighted by them. I don't know why I've never really done this before. I've always been, I guess, of the mindset that was in the past. Why would I need to ever go back and read that? That was for me at the time. What age group are we talking? Like what? How? This is 99. So I also have some excerpts to read you guys. Incredible. And so you were?
Starting point is 00:07:44 I was 10 okay yeah yeah yeah yeah great and also i mean wait i this is a huge year for movies and you guys know what i say about 1999 right here i know this year probably this made you who you are the woman you are today i feel like was 1999 yes okay okay okay so here we go this is in september 1999 dear diary i started guitar lessons yesterday i've got a cool book oh man today i finally got the flirting thing going with colin and he left early love samantha so first of all i just want to say how heavily colin features in this diary it's just colin colin features quite happily yeah yeah yeah colin this colin that for me it was hayden and then in this next entry it
Starting point is 00:08:31 says p.s here are my favorite movies but i like them all the same number one the matrix can you even believe it can you even believe it it's been your favorite movie for so long now number two the six cents number three lost in space and number four the faculty i like them all the same these are all my favorite movies the faculty i can't believe the faculty is the same as the matrix i like it the same as the matrix i like it the same uh okay and then this is a cup this is the a month later and it says last night i saw double double jeopardy it was so cool i hope i get the matrix for christmas love sam p.s i might write again later today i just really like i love i used to do that too like writing to my diary as if it were a living breathing character that'd be like i used to start every new diary with like
Starting point is 00:09:25 a little bit about me you already know and like exactly like give a little like intro to being like but you know because you're my friend um yeah and i'll say like sorry i haven't written in a while like as if my diary is like desperate to know what's going on in my life where is she why hasn't she written what's up with colin does she still like the matrix i am starved for information yeah okay oh you have you have okay no keep going just one last one so this is another month later and this one just really made me laugh dear diary today i asked brianna to pass a note to Colin saying, Samantha wants to know if you'd go out with her if she asked. He said, yes. The bummer is I'm too shy to ask him out.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Oh, that's cute. I asked him if I could ask him and he said yes. And I'm too shy to take the next step. Oh, that's so cute. Oh my God. It's so funny. Yeah. Where's Colin now? Who knows? Colin, if you're listening. Would it change the whole trajectory of her life if she had? Yes, as a real sliding doors situation. I wanted to mention, have I ever told you guys about when I was a sophomore in high school and I was sleeping over at one of my friend's house at the time and she showed me her journal and I was like the most alarmed I've ever been in my whole life because it was just a litany of like what she step by step what she did every day. And that was it. And it really like freaked me out.
Starting point is 00:11:02 No. It was like today I woke up. I brush my teeth, I put my clothes on, I went to school. And we were like, we were like 15 years old. And it was like, Oh, that's interesting. I went to first period. I went to second period. I took a lunch break. It was literally like that. And it was like pages and pages and pages and pages. Also interesting to show you that. What was she, what was the point of showing you? She was like, I write in my journal.
Starting point is 00:11:28 She's trying to prove to you she didn't commit a crime. She's like, my alibi's airtight. Look at it. They won't, but you can just see here that I've listed everything I've ever done. And I didn't go to Best Buy. I didn't go to Best Buy. Oh my God. She was just like, I write in my journal every night and this is my journal.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I just remember like seeing a few pages of it and seeing it was full. That's very alarming. And just being like, I don't think I can be friends with you anymore. Like there's something that's missing. There's something like deeply missing. Yeah. Yeah. That's like Patrick deeply missing. Yeah. Yeah. That's like Patrick, Patrick Bateman.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. Um, another thing in, in my diary is just one last thing. I always write my new year's resolutions and every year it says it every year it says shower more. And then it like gets incrementally more like shower more for real this time. Like actually do it this time. How often are you showering? And you were self-aware enough to know that you needed to be showering more than you were very funny that i was no for real get in the
Starting point is 00:12:32 shower you could do it come on you need to shower more it's getting gross sammy no i went through the same thing at this age i remember my my sister hated showering so my mom would get so grossed out because my hair would get so greasy after like two days. And I would refuse to shower. I would go into the bathroom. I'd turn the shower on. And I would just wait outside the shower and then turn it off. And she'd be like, I know you didn't shower.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You're still disgusting. Yeah. And guess what? I still don't love showering. Oh, my God. I love showering. I like it. It's hard for me to get in there. Once I'm in there, it's fine. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I listen to a podcast while I shower. I always listen to something because I can't be alone with my thoughts. It's hard. It's really hard. I love to shower. And I, and yeah, I always have. I remember growing up, my sister did not. And that would be a thing too. We'd be like, get in the fucking shower. And I, God, I love to shower. Always have, always will. Always have, always will. So many bath products. I should live somewhere where there is not a drought. I love to shower. I can't help it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I can't help it. I have zero updates about me. The only things I want to say, I am watching Will Trent because Jenna suggested that we watch it. Oh my gosh, she's going to be so happy. Silent Jenna. I just need to shout her out. It's the perfect mindless show to not be like half paying attention to, but it's good enough that I'm still watching every episode. It's a procedural. It's on Hulu. It's based off of books by Karen Slaughter. I didn't know that. I've never read her books, but I know she's very famous. I've never read anything by her either.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And I'm watching that. I was watching The Perfect Match, which Sammy recommended, which is insane. The pilot episode of that show made me feel like i was in a fever dream like i couldn't grasp onto what was happening in any given moment what is this i'm obsessed you guys will have to tune into our bonus episode to hear more about a lot of things not realizing that we have a bonus episode to chat about yeah we're gonna chat about we're gonna chat about it because i have thoughts and not and you're gonna have to subscribe but uh we just simply don't have the time for me to get into it right now but i'm excited that we'll be able to talk about it later we don't have the time because we are already way into
Starting point is 00:15:03 this podcast and we haven't even started talking about the movie that we're going to be recapping today. You said that as if we never do this. I think this is probably pretty concise. I'm trying to move the conversation away from me. It's good. perfect time to segue into this week's movie uh which is cube came out in 1997 again this episode was chosen by our patrons another reason to subscribe patreon is a great place to be get to vote in polls who doesn't love that it was directed by vincenzo Natale, written by Vincenzo Natale, Graeme Manson, and Andre Bajelic, starring Nicole DeBoer, Maurice Dean Wint, David Hewlett, Andrew Miller, and Nikki Guadagni. And it
Starting point is 00:15:55 is available on Tubi. Tubi! Or to rent. You can rent it. I rented it because I don't like the commercials, but it is there on Tubi. Tubi. Emily, have you heard of this movie before? Never in my life. Me either.
Starting point is 00:16:12 This is brand new. It's a, yeah, not a super popular film, but it was a very formative film for me. Oh, okay. Well, it wasn't on your list, so that remains to be seen. Oh, that's true. Well, I know. And fuck, it was 97. Yeah, so you Well, it wasn't on your list, so that remains to be seen. Oh, that's true. Well, I know. And fuck, it was in 97. Yeah, so you had seen it.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I did not. I did not see this in 97. OK. I saw this later. I saw it in high school. Oh, OK. So you hadn't seen it in 99. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, I hadn't. But I should have. And I apologize for that. But in high school, I think I've talked about this a little bit before but I got really into like this type of horror movie like Cube and Saw were really big for me I feel like my group of friends we watched these types of movies a lot she just grouped it into the same category as Saw she did I heard it too i heard it too a great movie no saw is a good movie i know you haven't seen it but i don't like that recap was fantastic i don't know what the
Starting point is 00:17:11 similarities are but i don't think i will i will have to find out yeah um and i hadn't seen it since high school so i was really curious to rewatch it, because as we know, a lot of movies don't age well, and they're certainly especially horror movies of this time. I guess more the early 2000s are where I really get nervous of how things have aged. Yeah. So I was a little nervous, but excited to see this movie that feels very nostalgic for me. Nostalgia is the theme of our fucking entire podcast today. This is a really nostalgic episode. That's true.
Starting point is 00:17:56 It's such an episode that's seeped in nostalgia. That's right. But I'm not surprised that you guys haven't heard of it. I feel like it was not a super popular movie. It I don't even know if it was out in theaters or anything. And also 97 was probably not a time that any of us were paying too close of attention to horror films, indie horror films. indie horror films um i will tell you it has a 64 on rotten tomatoes a 61 on metacritic and a 7.2 on imdb the budget was made in Toronto. And this trivia says to show their support for the Toronto film industry, the special effects company core did the digital effects for free, which just like immediately made me mad. Nobody should ever be working for free for anything. I just, I think as someone who works in the film industry, it like immediately made me mad. Nobody should ever be working for free for anything. I just,
Starting point is 00:19:05 I think as someone who works in the film industry, it like was triggering for me to hear of someone being like, Hey, I'll do that job for free. Don't do that. Nobody works for free ever. There's more to that story than what we're getting. True. It's just like one little blurb and I don't know the. It's also good. The tone of that blurb is definitely meant to make you feel like, oh, wow. Like how nice of them. It's definitely not meant to make you angry. And it does make me angry.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And I don't. Yeah. I just think everyone needs to be compensated for the work that they do. And I think it sets a really bad precedent when people are doing shit for free on. Agree. Big productions. I guess it's not a big production but still i don't like it i hope they were retroactively reimbursed because the movie
Starting point is 00:19:50 made a lot of money yeah um and the only other trivia i have is that all the characters in this are named after famous prisons which will make more sense as we get into the film. Ruh-roh. The movie is the kind of movie where people are trapped in a room, and I feel like this is also a type of movie that I like. It reminds me of Identity, when there's a group of strangers brought together that have to figure out why they've been chosen for this particular thing. It's kind of lost to an extent. It's kind of like Lost to an extent is kind of like that also. I tend to like those types of movies.
Starting point is 00:20:31 So yeah, we're going to have a group of people in a cube. In a cube. Classic cube. And with that, should we watch this trailer? Yes, a 90s trailer. What's it gonna be? 26 rooms high. 26 rooms across. 17,576 rooms. Does anybody remember how they got here? Why would they throw innocent people in here? Are we being punished?
Starting point is 00:21:19 There's a way in here, so there's got to be a way out. Do you think they'd go to all the trouble to build this thing if we could just walk out? Take a good long look around. i got feelings looking at us we have about three days without food and water before we're too weak to move i just want to wake up there's no room down there and something almost cut my head off motion detectors integrated into the walls that's a spot you're not getting out of here. Yes, we are! There is no way out of here! We need to get around the trap.
Starting point is 00:21:49 They're identified by crime numbers. Figure it out. I can't! I'm not dying in a rat maze! No more talking. No more guessing. You gotta save yourselves from yourselves. What the hell's going on? We haven't been moving in circles the runes have we are the king the king
Starting point is 00:22:12 is us this feels like a lot of ideas to unpack in 90 minutes i'm curious i'm curious how we're gonna get there imagine like teenage sammy being like whoa so cool the production design is giving 13 ghosts do you guys feel that way oh big time yep but they there was only they basically built just one cube for the whole movie so i think they built one and a half cubes so that you could look through the opening in the in the walls of the cube into the next room but basically it was just one cube that they would change the gels so that the color of the cube would be different.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Um, so they actually filmed it in color order, not chronological order, just cause it was a pain in the ass to change all the gels. Just kind of interesting. That is cool. I didn't recognize any of those actors. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's so funny. Another piece of the trivia was like, most of the actors were unheard of before this point. And they're like all still unheard of the actors were unheard of before this point and they're like all still unheard of they remained unheard of up until now they were unheard of when at which point they continued to be unheard of yeah yeah uh i'll say like yeah there it's the acting is very silly i think it i think it works for this movie but but it's like, yeah, I don't, I don't great. But sometimes that's right. It looks fun though.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It kind of, it looks fun. I enjoyed the line. Um, I don't want to die in a rat maze because it made me think of, you're just a rat in a maze. It's a very, I don't want to die in a rat maze. Yeah. I can't wait going for it. I imagine it's just like an escape room it's just like what an escape room is actually like have you guys ever done i've never done an escape room
Starting point is 00:24:12 i have done a few my my family likes them oh a few she says subtly her family likes them my family likes them and so i do them sometimes oh my god i thought you're really good at them no i um when i when i do them with my family which is i did one with work once no not every time but oh like 99 of the escape rooms i've done i've been with my family um i i take a major back seat i just i don't i don't get involved you know i help out if something if a puzzle comes to me uh i will help out but if but if you got to go to the puzzle and if everybody's got to be at the puzzle trying to solve the puzzle i'm like guys do you see there's a bird on the wall over here cool i'm like nah i don't i can't um my energy can't do that
Starting point is 00:25:03 interesting says like i feel like we've talked about before that we'd make really bad detectives I don't, I can't, my energy can't do that. Interesting. Can't do it. So it's like, I feel like we've talked about before that we'd make really bad detectives. It's like not really where I shine in. Yeah, I don't get puzzle stress. You know how some people are like, I have to solve the puzzle because I don't solve the puzzle. I, you know, I have to prove that I can solve the puzzle. And I'm like, yeah, maybe I can't solve it. Me too. Me too.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I give up too quickly. Maybe I'm too done with the puzzle. And you know what? I can do other things And my worth doesn't depend on The puzzle solving I'm just trying to chop chop We'll get out of this room eventually the stakes are pretty low
Starting point is 00:25:34 So that's how I feel about escape rooms But that being said they can be fun And I do like an ambiance It's fun that you go in and they're like okay so Here's the deal and Johnny did this And you know it's like you knowiance, you know, it's fun that you go in and they're like, okay, so here's the deal. And Johnny did this. And, you know, it's like, you know, Sherlock Holmes-y sometimes, which is fun. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I've never done one. I'm curious. I'd like to do one one day just to see. I'd like to do one too, just for fun. Do you guys see it? The listeners can't see it, but the sun is doing crazy things. No, the listeners can't see it. The listeners can't see it, but the sun is doing. The patrons can.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Actually, the patrons can. I've got another reason to do it. The patrons. can't see it, but the sun is doing it. The patrons can. Actually, the patrons can. I got another reason to join the patrons. Did you guys know that we post our trailer reactions on Patreon every week? We post a trailer. So
Starting point is 00:26:12 you could be both, you could be seeing how the sun is in Henley's eyes right now and that really adds to the experience. That's really disorienting me. You can just see how disoriented I am. Okay, wow. But I am excited to get into Cube. I really am. Well, the stakes are high in this situation but it does feel escape room the way they're like it's all prime number like escape rooms are a lot of that where it's like wait all these numbers if you do the letter
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Starting point is 00:29:19 Should we get into this movie? Let's get into Cube. Let's get into Cube. So we start in the Cube cube we're right in the cube immediately perfect great great we can't waste any time not wasting any time a guy wakes up in a cube room alone bald guy we see the layout of the cube is there is a hatch in each of the six sides. So four on the wall, like one on each of the walls and then one on the floor and one on the ceiling. And he seems to not know where he is. He looks scared and is nervously exploring the surroundings.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And he opens one of the hatches and crawls into the room next door and we hear a and he freezes and his eyes get really big and we sense that something very bad has just happened but we can't tell what and it shows different parts of his body it shows his chest he's wearing a gray jumpsuit and we see blood start seeping through the jumpsuit in a crisscross pattern and then it zooms out again and we see his head and it's basically he's been chopped into a million little pieces this is hot dog style hamburger style it's like checkerboard he's tomato style this fajita style fajita he's basically razor wire in the shape of a checkerboard sliced through him and so yeah he's he's diced he's gotten diced he's a pile of meat. He's gotten diced. Yeah. And all the little diced slices slip and slide off of each other and collapses to the floor.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And we get our main title. Like a little Jenga board. Cube. Yeah. A little Jenga guy. The way you latched onto that. Thank you. That was really good support yes it's it was like what it's it's right because all the pieces fall like a little jenga that's right someone else jenga in the background that would be exactly right title credits title card and then we go back inside the cube two guys now waking up in the cube and one guy
Starting point is 00:31:50 looks very out of it his head is bleeding and the other guy is taking charge right away looking like he needs to solve he's the one in the escape room that's like i need to solve this puzzle as soon as possible they're wearing gray prison looking jumpsuits with their last names embroidered on them and so the one taking charge we see his name is quentin like san quentin the prison this is where we see that they're all named after prisons. And the other guy's name is Worth. And that's from Leavenworth. There's another character named Leaven coming in a second. So I'm not kind of lazy there.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah, they're like two, a real two for one. Not more than three prisons. You can't think of more than three prisons. And they hear one of the hatches starts opening they're looking nervous and position themselves like they're gonna attack whoever comes in because they're on guard and a woman crawls in quentin grabs her like flips her down throws her across the room before he can see who it is he just attacked you know kind of regardless of whoever it was. She's crying and also scared. He's very apologetic. Like, I'm so sorry. I just thought, I don't know what the
Starting point is 00:33:14 fuck's going on. And this woman's name is Holloway. And we hear someone scream in another room. So they open the hatch where it sounds like the scream is coming from. And we see another woman in the room next to them. And she starts walking towards the hatch to where they are. And Quentin yells, don't move. And she looks very scared and doesn't know why. And he kind of looks around the room a little 360, looking at all the walls, and then tells her, okay, go ahead. And she walks forward and crawls into the room with them. Holloway notices this and yells at him, why were you afraid of that room? What was that about? What's going on? And Quentin says, the rooms are trapped. And we don't know why he really knows this.
Starting point is 00:34:05 We don't know. We have no sense of time who like how any of these people got there, how long they've been there. They seem to all be strangers to each other. Yes, all strangers to each other. And Quentin, I guess, has come from another room. Maybe that had or like he has experienced one of the traps and survived it. So he tells them some of the rooms have traps. Then the ceiling hatch opens and another guy drops down. This is Ren.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And he looks like he has a plan, kind of. He's not really paying a ton of attention to the other people. He's just kind of going through as if he knows of he's not really paying a ton of attention to the other people he's just kind of going through as if he knows what he's doing and it's very funny to drop from the ceiling and then be like don't mind me don't mind me i'm just solving my puzzles uh holloway sees that worth has a head wound and it goes over to him and tells him that she is a nurse and she starts, uh, tending to him as best she can without any medical equipment. She's just kind of getting him sitting upright and in whatever position is better. And we see Ren taking off his boots and tying the shoelaces together.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And he opens a hatch to one of the rooms they have not looked in yet. And he throws the shoes in, still holding on to one of the boots. So basically one boot is flying in while he's holding the other boot so he can test the room. And sure enough, it triggers a motion sensor and all these flames come out and blast the boot. But he's able to reel it back in. And so they determine that the rooms are are like booby trapped with motion sensors. So at this point, Quentin kind of takes charge and asks everybody, OK, does anybody remember how you got here? Basically, who are we?
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like, let's take stock. Who the hell are you guys? Let's introduce ourselves to each other. We learn that nobody remembers really how they got there. Some of them just went to bed in their beds and woke up here. One of them was making dinner and blacked out and woke up here. And so hungry too. Oh my God. So hungry.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And so they, they don't know how no one remembers anything of the being transported here. So there's no clues there about where they might be you know what they don't ask each other where they're all from and that would have been a good question like if they're from the same where do we all live and how long they've been there do they know they have any sense i think they've all been there pretty it's like pretty fresh for most of them because they obviously can't drink water or eat anything. So it can't be that long.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Yep, exactly. So we learn that Quentin is a cop. And that's, I guess, part of why he's like taking charge. That's his personality is this commanding kind of alpha vibe. And he's telling everybody, like, I'm going to get us out of here. If there was a way, a way in, there's got to be a way out, which I think is a really crazy assumption to make. I just don't know that that's true. You don't know anything about this place. That was my first thought too. I was like, what would I do in this situation? Because I would
Starting point is 00:37:40 immediately be like, well, we're fucked. But then there's also no point in just sitting in the same room the whole time. If you have the option to move, I guess you move just in case. Yeah, I bet you'd try. You try. I might try to hang for a little bit just to be like, well, we don't know what happens if we stay in this room. Yeah, someone might come. Someone might come in.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't know. And then eventually probably like, well, I think for me i'm i i feel like i'm a real follower so if other people were taking charge and saying here's what we have to do i think i would do it i feel sadly that i don't have a strong enough will to be like i'm just gonna do my own thing like i think also you don't want to do your own thing to me would have to stay with the group yeah yeah so they have that conversation and then they are using the boot trick to navigate through rooms so they're able to see what rooms have motion sensors and which ones seem to be safe and they've got six options basically right yep six options the ceiling one there are little um handles all over all of the walls and
Starting point is 00:38:54 okay so they would have to climb got it but they tend to go through the ones that are not floor or ceiling they're kind of moving yeah horizontally at the moment and they're in each hatch as they open it there's a little crawl space that has a metal inscription of a series of numbers it's nine numbers long and they don't really know what to make of that they think that it might be just like the number of what room it is. But if it's nine numbers long, that means there's like a million rooms. So that's don't don't love that. But they don't know what it means. They're just noticing that. And the nurse Holloway says we have about three days basically before we die, like can't move anymore from thirst and hunger.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So we need to figure this shit out quickly. And Quentin then recognizes Ren that he had been calling him. This doesn't really matter. Whatever he called. He recognizes Ren and says you're are you the ren and he's apparently heard of this man because he has escaped from seven prisons and great person to have on deck yeah exactly and that's why he was kind of seemed like he didn't need the other people because he has a lot of experience i've
Starting point is 00:40:25 done this before yeah he's seven times he's escaped from seven prisons that's so funny that's too many that's too many at a certain point like fool me once you know he deserves to be free at this point yeah it's like seven times seven different times we can't keep this man in a prison okay well that's on us by like three, we'd always be watching him. I don't understand. It reminds me again of my favorite George Bush quote. Fool me, you can't get fooled again. Fool me once, shame on you.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Fool me twice, shame on... You fool me, you can't get fooled again. Oh, incredible. Incredible quotes from George Bush. bush incredible remember when he was our worst president i know i miss it i miss that really crazy really crazy stuff um he was very bad he was very bad this is like narrative that he's all of a sudden cute because he paints is like, no, no, no. No, he did a lot of damage.
Starting point is 00:41:27 He's very, very bad. The warmonger. It's just, unfortunately, we've gotten, we've had worse now. Yeah. Doesn't make the bad better. Just makes the worse worse. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yep, I do. So, great. so um great so ren has escaped from seven prisons and they're thinking great this is going to be a really useful person to have to break out of here and he throw they're moving making their way through it he ren throws the boot thing into the next room they're moving into it's clear he jumps in and a noise happens there's a little mechanical click he turns around like what the fuck was that and some liquid sprays in his face and it is acid of some sort and starts just burning through his skull he jumps out of the room like back back into the one that they are all in water anything they don't have anything they have no help to offer this man they just watch as his face
Starting point is 00:42:32 melts off it completely eats his entire face and he dies oh gross that's a bad way to go. It's pretty nasty. His face is like bubbling and foaming. And then it's completely basically disappears. It just gets eaten up into nothing. So now his skull is just empty, basically. Ew. Ew.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Wait. The acid just breaks his whole face down. That's pretty crazy. That's a pretty strong acid. It's a very strong acid. And so they are very freaked out by this. Like what? Why didn't the boot thing work? What the fuck? What does that mean? And they conclude that that must mean that the rooms have different types of sensors. And so perhaps that was a weight sensor.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It could have been a weight sensor or they think it maybe it was like heat or like biological. Like it senses when there's actually like actually a person in there. So now we're we're extra freaked out and cautious. Cautious. How the fuck do we move through this cube and they take another little break here to to talk more to each other okay why are we all here there must be a reason why we're all here tell us more about who each of us is uh we go to levin Levin. Levin is, she's kind of a younger woman. We learned that she's in college and she has glasses that broke when she, uh, like fell into the cube, I guess. And so, uh, but she, they're just for reading. They're not, she can see fine, but she's carrying her glasses with
Starting point is 00:44:23 her. She's like, I'm a student. I don't know why I'm here. And Worth, we talked to Worth. He says, I'm just a guy that works in an office. Like, I don't, I don't know. We find out Quentin is divorced and has three kids. I don't think he necessarily offers that information up as if it's going to be useful to them but it's more just like i need like i need to get out of here like i've got three kids and someone says something about will his wife be looking for him and he says we're divorced but i think they all kind of are like people will be looking for us but you know still we should try to get out yeah how would they know to look in this cube how would they know to look in this cube exactly exactly holloway says something like they took all my jewelry like she's looking at her hands like all of her rings are gone and quentin says why would they take your jewelry and not Levin's glasses?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Because those are worth different amounts. Yeah. But so again, this is the detective stuff that I'm like, this is not the questions and answers I would be coming up with. But yeah, but sure. He says there must be a reason why they left your glasses with you. And like, what are you studying in school and we find out she is studying math and so they she puts her glasses on and they're looking at
Starting point is 00:45:54 he's like well look at the numbers see if you can like make anything of the numbers on the little hatch thing and she is trying to see if there's any pattern she basically has the the room they came from and the room that they know is trapped and she's trying to see if there's any clue in the numbers of like which one is like rigged and she notices that the prime numbers are seem to be correlated with the safe rooms. And so now they have. Do you guys remember what prime numbers are? It means it can't be divided by anything other than other than itself, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 One in itself. Yeah. So like seven. But I would be I would really not do well in this i barely remember what it means like what a nightmare to be like oh you're studying this solve solve the mystery save our lives save all our lives college i don't even know if i'm like good at this anybody can decide to major in anything yeah that is so scary and And the numbers are, are, so there's nine numbers, but they're in sets of three. So they're in, in the hundreds. So it'll be like 535. I guess
Starting point is 00:47:14 that's an easy one. Cause you know, that's divisible by five, but at 537, it's like, is that a prime number? Like, I don't fucking know. She does seem to be pretty good at it. She seems to be kind of a whiz, luckily. But yes, of course, this is not ideal. You don't want to have to be doing math to save your life. But with this new information, they're able to test it a few times and they're still doing the boot thing. So they at least have like two possible things to try to at least minimize the risk as much as they can. And so we get a little montage of them moving through the rooms. They are successfully using these tools to make their way. It's time is passing. I think at some point they say it's, it's hard for them to measure time, obviously, but they think it's been around nine or 10 hours. And they eventually make it to a room where all the rooms are traps except for the one that they came from.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So they have to decide if they are going to backtrack to try to find another way around. Oh, but they but they haven't checked the ceiling one. Basically, because they've been moving only horizontally and I think also maybe checking the bottom ones. So they say, okay, we got to check the ceiling or we've got to move backwards. And they open the ceiling hatch and a new guy falls in. His name is Kazan and he has autism.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And I will say the portrayal of autism is a little unfortunate. This is a neurotypical actor, which this never really ages well. This is one of those things that you don't. No, we weren't doing that well, especially in 1997. Don't love to see it but and and Quentin and Levin are immediately like awful to him like seeing him as a liability
Starting point is 00:49:13 and like oh like fuck this guy we gotta get rid of him just being really heartless and cruel and Holloway is like taking him under her wing and like like of course he's coming with us like are you insane look he's a that's fucking crazy like fuck you yeah yeah um but tensions are high in here and we're all stressed and so there's just a lot of yelling at each other back and forth. This isn't a very, uh, nice,
Starting point is 00:49:45 calm environment. So I think they move back and move back a room or no, they must go back to the, I can't remember. They either go up into the room. He just came from or back into the room. They just came from to, they get to another room that they think is clear and try a new way and uh levin reads a number and says this one's safe and quentin goes in first and hears a noise again and we are like oh fuck and holloway calls out don't move and we, again, strips of razor wires surrounding him in a cylinder, basically, like vertically all around him. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And Holloway yells, like, run, like, get out of there. And he does this little crazy little move to jump through, sideways through the razor wire as it twists like a little towel. And so it would have, like, rung him into a bunch of little pieces but he makes it out but it does slice his leg pretty good but he is able to get back into the safe room with everybody else and he immediately starts screaming at levin like what the fuck and she is insisting this is a prime number this is a prime number so i don't i don't know what went wrong and so now that thing that theory has uh holes poked in it and we're all feeling very
Starting point is 00:51:16 stressed again periodically they're hearing these loud noises loud mechanical noises and the room kind of shakes they don't know what that is, but they're noticing that it's happening regularly. And Quentin has been suspicious of Worth. Worth has basically not really talked at all through any of this. All of them are constantly fighting and arguing with each other and worth has just been pretty quiet in the corner and quentin reaches a point of like okay you need to what the fuck's your deal like tell us more about you you haven't said you've been pretty quiet this whole time and worth comes out and tells them that he basically confesses to, I helped design the outer shell of this place.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Oh, huge. Good thing someone questioned him. Yeah, I mean, we just need to ask. He has pretty big, important information. You just need to ask. I'm not going to just come out with this. I'm just going to show a little interest, please. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I just wanted to assume you were interested in getting to know me um we can't we can remember that he did have a head wound and so maybe he was um out of it that's a bit of an a possible excuse as to why he has been so silent but so he says that and holloway starts kind of spiraling about a government conspiracy. She's had little hints to little conspiracy theories about this. Like we're in New Mexico. Like this is aliens or like this is the government. They're testing on us.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And she's like, this confirms it. Like he's been building it. He's like a little office employee and like the government's doing this. And Worth says they're because they're asking him who employed you, who paid you to do this? And he's like, I don't know. I just do what my bosses tell me to do. Like, I'm not in charge of this in any way. I'm literally an office desk worker that had nothing to do with, I had no idea what the
Starting point is 00:53:20 big plan for this was. I was just given a project that I worked on and I didn't ask questions about it. And we get this kind of philosophical conversation between all of the characters at this point where they're trying to figure out what this place is. Why would they put people in it? Worth says they'd put people in it because it's here. And if they don they put people in it worth says they'd put people in it because it's here
Starting point is 00:53:46 and if they don't put people in it it's just not being put to use and they say who's who's in charge like who's watching us right now and worth says there's probably no one watching us and like it's just people i can't remember like the exact quotes of it but i like this it like feels kind of like a metaphor for god and like basically life on earth in general of of it's scary to think that someone is watching them but it's scarier to think nobody's watching them and that it's all just like random and and the result of like we're not here for a reason there's no grand design it's just like yeah i don't know it's just sometimes people needed to be put in the room and you got picked yeah exactly and so worth that's also kind of scary to think about in terms of prisons yes just in the fact that like prisons exist so we
Starting point is 00:54:45 need to fill them up so we need to fill them yeah yeah yeah exactly because otherwise why would we build all these prisons yeah right yep and worth tells quentin that it's not dissimilar to what he does as a cop he's like basically we're both just small pieces in a big machine that like destroys lives does that make us bad people like we're not the ones pulling the strings but we're a part of it and this really pisses quentin off and he starts trying to fight worth and is like beating the shit out of him and holloway and all the rest of them like are pulling him back and like, we need him. He's the only one who knows anything about this place. Like get your hands off of him. And so they put, they pulled them apart and Holloway or no Levin asks Worth, what are the, do you remember the dimensions of the exterior? And does and she does calculations she kind of like walks across
Starting point is 00:55:47 the room measuring it by footsteps roughly gets the measurements of the room and by the calculations of the size of the exterior that he built determines that there is that it is 26 rooms across and 26 rooms, like 26 by 26 by 26, which would mean there are 17,576 rooms. Oh, no. It's absolutely too many rooms. Too many rooms. This thing is fucking huge. It's very big. Did they ask him where did you build it?
Starting point is 00:56:23 Where are we? Where are we? We don't know they okay they haven't asked that i think they just the only thing they mention is holloway's new mexico conspiracy theory that i think is like a roswell reference type of thing yeah just like a big box in the desert and yeah i think yeah it must be like out in the middle of nowhere somewhere. It would have to be. Okay. Okay, so here's where we make some math conclusions that are absolutely nonsensical to me. Okay. She's looking at the numbers.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And now with this new information of the dimensions of the cube, she goes, Descartesart cartesian coordinates which we will believe them that that means something yeah and that that is able to give her the information she needs now to calculate basically the latitude and longitude of each box in respect to where they are on like the 3d axis of this cube god thank god she's in this group i mean what would they be doing without her and she calculates that they are seven rooms from the edge of the cube so that's their plan they want to get to obviously the edge of the cube so that they can get out of it yeah okay so they're
Starting point is 00:57:46 they're moved to the next room and i can't remember now how they know what rooms are safer i think they're just continuing to like try the prime number and boot thing just like might as well and hope for the best yeah um they're you know getting hungry and thirsty and feel like they're running out of time and so they're like fuck it let's just keep keep going and if we're only seven rooms from the edge we just gotta try and so they're moving through the rooms they get to a room where as she looks at the numbers in it she calculates that it would be the 27th room and she says that doesn't make sense that would make it outside of the dimensions of the cube because there's 26 rooms by 26 rooms but there's rooms on every through each hatch so they're not outside of the cube but she's just confused by that
Starting point is 00:58:40 they're like okay well whatever let's keep moving and eventually they get to a room in which there is once again traps in every direction except for the one they came back but now they're even closer to the edge of the room she's i think they're like two away from the edge of the room and so they really don't want to backtrack and they there's the room that they would have to go to to stay on their direct path to the outside of the cube they realize is sound activated because as they open the thing and talk all these metal rods jab through the room like blades the whole like you would get just skewered if you were in the room. Kebab style.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Kebab style. That's right. And they are silent and test it. They're quiet and the room resets and is fine. And then they make noises like bop and it activates. And so Quentin says, I think we should do it i think we should climb through this room no but the other thing is that kazan makes noises when he's stressed that's like he has tics and so there's there there's that added element holloway is like it's gonna be fine he's gonna be fine. He's going to be quiet.
Starting point is 01:00:06 We can do it, which seems like a very bold prediction. But they decide that this is their best option if they want to make it to the outside. And so one at a time, they go. Worth goes first. And it's basically, for some reason, they're having to climb like monkey bars style across the room. I guess maybe that's quieter than walking through it. I can't remember why they do that.
Starting point is 01:00:46 That's so hard. Have you guys tried to do monkey bars recently? Yes. They're so hard. I tried to do monkey bars recently. I was at a playground with my sister and husband and nephew. And I was like, I kept thinking, I was like, well, surely I must be like remembering wrong how this goes. Because I could be like, it's too hard.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I mean, like, wait, but like kids do it. I don't understand. It's so fucking hard. What the hell? I don't know. I remember doing it so easily as a kid. Just like no problem. I tried to do it recently and I couldn't even get started.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I couldn't even do one time. I couldn't get my brain around what it is. It's I guess we just lost all of our upper body strength. Our lower bodies got so much heavier Our lower bodies got heavier It's too much weight Our weight sank So we can understand the difficult task at hand
Starting point is 01:01:35 Of climbing across these rooms without making a single sound So Worth goes first, he climbs and he makes it Levin goes next, she climbs and he makes it levin goes next she climbs and she makes it and then holloway and then we have kazan going and holloway's kind of guiding him with a little finger to her mouth being like like be quiet stay quiet and you can see that he's about to make a noise like he opens his mouth like and she's like no no no like like covers covers her mouth and and he he doesn't he starts climbing the wrong way the wrong direction like away from the door it's a stressful scene but eventually he makes it to the door and he gets
Starting point is 01:02:18 in with them and uh quittin is last and he's climbing now and they're all watching him. It's all very tense. It's very silent. And he is like almost at the end. And Kazan makes a noise. I think a noise of like happiness, like, oh, he made it, even though he's not fully in yet. of like happiness like oh he made it even though you Nazi. And Holloway and Quentin are now fighting. And Quentin from this point on is like psycho. He's not, he's not good. He's not a good
Starting point is 01:03:17 person. The mask comes off and he is out for himself and himself only and he is just like unhinged now from here on okay okay and so as holloway is yelling at him for attacking kazan quentin yells at holloway uh something like like you're just mad because you're all dried up and no one wants to fuck you and it comes out of nowhere but basically he's just like trying to say horrible things to her and is calling her like an old old maid type of thing because she's like said how she's single and that's the only thing he really knows about her so he's going you're all dried up oh god and she looks at him and says no wonder your life your wife fucking left you like you're a monster and he slaps her in the face and she says she like laughs and looks at him and says
Starting point is 01:04:20 bet you did that to your kids too and he looks like he's been caught he has like a look of shame on his face so we're just seeing the real quentin the real quentin comes to light yeah not someone you want to be trapped in a cube with no no uh but now we are at the this is the final room we're at through this next door should be the outside they open up the hatch sure enough it it there's no other room there but it just is like black just darkness and we climb out and peek our little heads out and we just see the side of a fucking huge cube, basically in a empty black vast space. And we're in kind of the center of the cube. And so it's however many feet of a drop to the ground. And for some reason, they want to kind of explore the exterior of the cube.
Starting point is 01:05:23 But again, it's as if they're on a skyscraper they're standing on top of the cube like on the corner they're in the center of the cube like we got outside the outside center of the cube so basically the cube goes above and below them they're 13 rooms yes okay yes okay and so there it would be a 13 story drop to the floor or a 13 climb 13 story climb to the top and so but they decide they want to see if they can like see drop a boot yeah they could drop a boot i don't think they do that, but that would have maybe been a good idea. But so they they want somebody to go out to see if there's any latches or something outside that they could use to climb down or something like that. And so they take off all of their pants to make a little rope ladder. So now they're all in their undies and holloway volunteers to go out and she
Starting point is 01:06:29 climbs out on the little pant ladder and she's looking and it's just like a flat metal surface in every direction nothing to hang on to and then the cube shakes like it has been shaking and she almost falls she catches herself at the end it's stressful everyone's like oh like get back in get back in i don't know what the fuck that is and so she starts climbing up and quentin's at the top quentin grabs her hand to pull her back in and of course as he's about to pull her back in. And of course, as he's about to pull her back in, he has like a little evil light bulb moment where he's like, wait a second, I don't like you. And he drops her and she dies.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Oh my God. But he turns around and acts like she fell. Like it was an accident. He looks all, he's pretending to be very shaken by it and he's like oh my god she fell um but we saw his comically evil look when he dropped her he looked so sinister we saw we saw a choice get made yeah somehow at this point they have only one set of boots left i think throughout the moving through the thing some sometimes the boots melt when
Starting point is 01:07:45 there's fire or like certain things can happen that destroy the the boots or grab snatch them away from them or whatever so they only have one set of of boots left and their new plan is to move down in the rooms right because if they can get 13 floors down theoretically we'll be at ground level yeah but they're all exhausted so they decide to sleep first this has now been probably maybe 24 hours we don't know and they're like getting delirious so they did they're in a safe room so they decide we're gonna sleep and uh so they're so they're, as they're sleeping, Quentin takes Levin, like scoops her up and moves to the next room. He is fully a crazy person now. Like he's just.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Okay. Uh. Yeah. He's murdered. He's just done. He's done. He is. He is.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Levin is just asleep and doesn't, or Levin is awake. I, she wakes up kind of, she's really delirious to the point where i was like did he drug her but like he couldn't there's nothing in there but i think they're just delirious from being in a cube for a day without any food or water they have the cube sickness they've got cube sickness and he is basically saying like like, you and I are going to, like, figure this out because he knows he needs her for math reasons, but doesn't care about Worth or Kazan. So wants to leave them behind. And he, of course, like, gets pervy with her, too, for no reason. And he starts, like, trying to, yeah, assault her.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And it's very unnecessary and and but we're just seeing that he is um a really bad man and yeah sure okay from that she's screaming and worth and kazan here and i think they're only one room over at this point so they're able to come in and uh save her like try to like get in the middle of them and like break them apart and they're like what the fuck are you doing man and quentin takes the boot and like swings it to hit worth and like smacks him in the head with the boot and then is repeatedly like beating him with this Jesus thing that's like on a little tie. And he then opens up the floor hatch because now they're going through the floor hatches each time he opens up the floor hatch and just dumps worth through it. Like his new technique is just going to be throwing worth first. And so we,
Starting point is 01:10:28 we see worth fall through the hatch and are anticipating what's, is he okay? We don't know. It's quiet. And then we just hear worth laughing and laughing. And we're like, what the fuck is he laughing about? And they climb in because they can see that he's,
Starting point is 01:10:44 you know, unharmed uh and ren's body is in this room and so they're somewhat near back where they started oh shit but they open they said they say the hatch is open to the room that Ren went into and got sprayed in the face with acid. And that room is now the edge, the wall. There's nothing there anymore. And so they're like, what the fuck? That room used to have a room there.
Starting point is 01:11:19 And they piece together that the cube is moving. And that's what the rumblings have been. It's been the rooms rearranging and that's what the rumblings have been it's been the the rooms rearranging and reordering themselves harry potter staircase style yes so he's worth they are like looking out the window and for some reason quentin i think he's trying to throw the boot at worth and he throws it right out that window so no more boots now okay and levin with this new information again here's some mathematical um great things that i don't understand the conclusion she's able to draw but now with this new information that the rooms have been moving the whole time she says the numbers are permutations and that it's thank god she knows it's not prime numbers that we need to be looking for it's powers of prime numbers
Starting point is 01:12:16 don't know what that means and it's basically, I don't even really know, but from what I could understand, it's a more complicated math equation. And Quentin is like screaming at her like, well, do it like you can do it right. And she's like trying to carve into the metal with this with a button from her jumpsuit, like do math equation she's like nobody can do this math in their head like this is i if i had a calculator if i had a computer i could do this these numbers are so high but nobody knows the like prime uh the power of the prime of like uh 782 off the top of their head and kazan goes two and we've got this annoying of like a genius yes a real genius yeah okay we knew that was gonna come into play and so now they have the answer to all their questions wow Wow. Really convenient. And so they are able to determine what rooms are safe now through this. And Levin also realizes, because the rooms are coordinates-ish, whatever whatever you know just just go with me here loosely that room 27 was outside of the cube at some point and that's why it's like numbered at 27 and that the and that the numbers are like they're basically their starting positions.
Starting point is 01:14:07 And they, yeah, I know. It's, okay. We'll just trust it that it makes sense. But she realizes that they need to get back to that room 27. Oh, man. That sucks. Well, but I think it's supposed to be close because the rooms have been rearranging the whole time. And so she's somehow like it shouldn't be far um but okay that room when it reaches back to its original position will theoretically be outside of the cube and that will be our bridge to go out of this structure. So they move down again to the next room and there again,
Starting point is 01:14:52 Quentin is throwing worth in each of the rooms. She like test it. They had a dead body. They should just use that. Yeah, that's true. That's a really good point. Really good point. And and they're they're moving through the rooms that way quentin throws them and then kazan and levin go and then quentin just taking up the rear and as they get to one of the last rooms worth slams the hatch closed on quentin's head so it's like he's it's like if you like rolled up a car window when someone had their head out of it type of thing so he's like half of it's just his head in the room not gonna
Starting point is 01:15:29 kill you and it's not he's not decapitated he's like worth isn't strong enough to push it like in a way that would actually injure him but it's just keeping him out of the room he's yelling at levin and kazan to go ahead and uh it seems like unlikely that they'll be able to fully outrun him in this way but it's at least something we don't want to be with quentin we don't like quentin you know no so we're just trying whatever whatever we can and they eventually get a little bit of a head start and but quentin quickly catches up to them and gets to the room that they're in and like lunges at them and they have opened the floor hatch without him noticing.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And so he falls through the floor hatch, like a little wily coyote style. And, uh, and then they close it and they're able to move through the next room. And so they're, they've got more of a head start. We don't see if that room was trapped or anything, but regardless, he'll now at least have like no clue which hatch they went through. So they'll get a little bit more of a edge.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And so now they're making it to the second to last room to the bridge. They move down into that room. It's clear. And Levin laughs when she checks the numbers and says, this is the room we started in. And so there is merit to just sitting and seeing what happens. Yes. Oh, my happens. Yes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Wow. Yep. This is a mean, mean cube. Fucked up. Oh, my God. Can you imagine? Can you imagine being in this situation? I'd be so pissed.
Starting point is 01:17:20 What would you do? I'd be so pissed. I'd be so pissed. I would be so pissed. And I would just be like just kill me just throw me in one of these hatches you know i'm good yeah so they then open the hatch to the final cell which theoretically when it moves when the cube moves uh a few more times i mean they have no way of actually really knowing when
Starting point is 01:17:45 it's going to return to the original position. But at some point, this cube should move into outside of the cube. So basically, every time they hear the rumbling, they'll just have to check all the all the hatches and eventually it'll it'll be outside. So as they jump into that one, Levin and Worth go first and then it starts rumbling and Kazan is not through yet. And they reach back for him and the cube moves and Kazan is whipped away somewhere else. And we're all very stressed. but then the cube stops moving and we can still hear kazan he's not far he hasn't moved far but you don't love to have to run through a few more cube rooms to go retrieve him but worth does he's like he's close like i'm gonna i'm gonna go get him i'm gonna find him and he's able to uh i think i think there's no way to know which rooms are safe for sure anymore at all.
Starting point is 01:18:50 They don't have the boot. They can't do the math calculations without Kazan. And so he's just going for it. He's just doing it to save him. And he does. They get him. They save him. They save him. And they're able to bring him back into the good room that they need to be in. And it starts rumbling again. And they open one of the hatches and a bright white light comes in. This is the exit. We can't see what's outside, but it's certainly different from anything we've seen before.
Starting point is 01:19:35 And this is seeming like really great. Everyone's happy. But Worth is like pretty badly wounded at this point. He started it with a head wound he's been thrown through all these rooms he's had been beaten with the boot and he's like losing blood and he tells them like go ahead without me like i just kind of want to die here and there's nothing out for me here there's again this kind of philosophical existential, they have like all these kinds of interesting conversations, um, that are about more than the cube, you know? Sure. And he says he, there's nothing for him out there. It's just boundless human stupidity.
Starting point is 01:20:20 And Levin says, that's good enough for me. Like, come on, like we got to get out of here. We came this far. And as she's saying that she is stabbed through the chest. Quentin has found them and ripped off one of the metal handles of the hatches, like the little twisty metal thing. I know it seems like that wouldn't just fall. Um,
Starting point is 01:20:42 and she dies. Yep. He, he impales her right through the chest. And then. Wow. He's evil. Evil.
Starting point is 01:20:50 For no reason. Really evil. And then he stabs Worth in the stomach. And so Worth is dying. And Kazan is trying to run out. Worth is like yelling at Kazan, like go, go,
Starting point is 01:21:03 go. Kazan climbs out and Quentin, uh, like is half out reaching for him, grabs Kazan by the wrist and is like pulling him back. And then we see Worth has grabbed Quentin's ankle, like holding him in the cube. And so he's like half in half out and that cube moves and slides parallel and he is cut in half because there's like an exterior shell of the cube too that he gets rubbed against quentin is cut in half oh okay okay yeah and it doesn't show It just, we just see a blood smear on the wall afterwards, which is kind of funny. It also looks like a CGI blood smear.
Starting point is 01:21:50 The movie doesn't like look amazing, but it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's fun. I like it. Um, but yeah. And then, uh, we see Kazan walk out into bright white light and that's the end of the movie well oh my god so we don't know anything about this goddamn cube no and I think it's better that way because there are cube sequels and everybody hates them oh okay all right I think it's fair all right I think it's more meant as, yeah, kind of a metaphorical exercise and probably not as good to have those answers. OK, so that was a really thrilling film for me in high school. Because how many of them would have lived?
Starting point is 01:22:41 I mean, I guess they all would have lived if Quentin could have worked together. I mean, not all of them, but Holloway and Levin and Dwarf. Well, yeah, that's the other thing is most of them died from humans, from each other. Only two of them died from the actual cube. Cube. Right. And so I think that's always the moral of the story is that humans are the most dangerous. It's always exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Whoa. So that's Cube. I kind of loved it. I kind of loved it. It was like, it's basically all dialogue. I think it's impressive whenever a movie is set in just one location and it's all just basically people talking the whole time to make that feel tense and scary and interesting. And, you know, reminder, it's a crisp 90 minutes. Love that. I can definitely see why high school Sammy liked this movie.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah. And then the Matrix came and just blew my mind even further. Blew you away. Forgot all about Cube. Sorry, Cube. Sorry, Cube. No, I really enjoyed it. I really did want to have some kind of answer about who made the cube, but you're right.
Starting point is 01:24:06 It wouldn't have been as entertaining to have an answer. There's would have been no solution or no answer. That would have been satisfying. Wouldn't have been satisfying. And I think, I mean, for me, the biggest thing was the metaphor for like,
Starting point is 01:24:16 there is no God. That's what I was just like, well, there's no God, no God, no one pulling the strings, just a fucking cube. Just all these people put on earth.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Just a cube. You just tap. Doing shit. And also, like, doesn't matter why you were put in the cube. You're in the cube. Like, that doesn't help anything. You're in the cube. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Mm-hmm. Yeah. It is what it is. It is what it is. Sometimes you're in a freaking cube and there's nothing you can do about it. Sometimes you're in the cube. you're in a freaking cube and there's nothing you can do about it you're in the cube yeah i'm like semi curious about the sequels just to like hear what explanation they did come up with but from what i've heard basically i bet they show you like the cube designer and then
Starting point is 01:24:57 you gotta think you know yeah it's probably not satisfying yeah which i felt that way with the matrix sequels although some of the i've warmed to them ever so slightly some moments of the matrix sequels yeah i can see it's no matrix but yeah could be worse yeah and i think cube is no matrix to begin with so cube sequels right really could be tough could be tough yeah on another level so uh but yeah that was cube i'm very glad i got to share that with you guys a real nostalgic one for me glad thank you patreon listeners patrons thank you for picking it that was a good one that was a really good one yeah we love it was between this and the house that Jack built, which I am really curious about.
Starting point is 01:25:47 That one I've never seen. It's a Lars von Trier one that I think. Oh, I'm really glad we didn't do that. I hate Lars von Trier. We're going to have to. It's so funny. I was going to say, yeah, I can't believe the patrons chose one for us that I didn't hate. You know, I feel like normally.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah, they really they really get they pick gnarly ones but maybe maybe they tried to and maybe they will next time tune into the patreon to find out why do you hate lars von treer because he scares me he just scares me wait he did nymphomaniac yeah right and what else did he do didn't he do um the one that we've talked about with um willem dafoe's penis willem dafoe's penis yeah antichrist i'm really scared i'm really scared literally the only thing i could think of was the actor who's a tripod because he has such a huge penis oh my god um willem dafoe right, right, right. Of course. Wait, what else has Lars von Trier done? Melancholia. Melancholia.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Oh, I didn't mind Melancholia as much. I loved Melancholia. Who did Climax? Oh, Gus Van Sant. Oh, Gus Van Sant. I get them confused. I can see where that went. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I was thinking of Climax. Well, someday, I suppose. I don't think that, I think that you will hate lars von cheer and the house that jack built i was just curious where it was where it was coming from because we haven't actually talked about any of his movies no it's because i'm so scared about no i'm so scared about doing antichrist i've definitely like heard things about antichrist and i don't like any of it we are gonna have to do it eventually i can't fucking wait and i feel like nymphomaniacs really fucked up I can't wait for that one either. That's Mia Goth's first movie.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Oh, she's in that. Oh, I didn't know that. It's a two-parter. Also, there's Nymphomaniac 1 and 2, so. What the heck? What the heck? Yeah. What the heck?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Oh, man. Okay, well. All right. All right. Yeah, so. Until then. Until next time This has been very fun And there's not really
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