Too Scary; Didn't Watch - DOCTOR SLEEP with Dominic Ciccodicola

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

A grown up Danny Torrance, a girl named Abra, and a gang of steam-sucking astral-projecting vampires - we're talking Doctor Sleep. Dominic Ciccodicola joins us to recap the sequel to The Shin...ing. Stephen King loves this one so we HATE IT. There is a very cute cat in it though, and that's something. Abra Cadabra BABY! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm scared. I'm Henley, and I'm scared. I'm Henley and I'm scared. I'm Sammy and I am brave. Did anything, I feel like we're like on our mission. Did anything scary happen to us
Starting point is 00:00:33 this week? I have one. Actually it's brief but scary. For sure. I tried on wedding dresses this week. And I felt like a grown ass woman and that's scary. And I felt like a grown-ass woman. And that's scary. And you looked like a grown-ass woman.
Starting point is 00:00:49 You looked beautiful. You guys were there. It was honestly kind of scary to try on clothes and then have people also be in a viewing room. It's very ceremonious. But you pulled the trigger. I pulled the goddamn
Starting point is 00:01:05 trigger yeah I did it was very cool but it was scary so glad that's over what about you guys I had to start drinking decaf tea because caffeine is really affecting you
Starting point is 00:01:21 yes my anxiety is kind of out of control and I now drink decaf, which is scary. Yeah. I like regular caffeine. Yeah. What a sacrifice I make. Huge. And even like caffeinated tea is too much.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yes. Even black tea, even green tea. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm drinking decaf Irish breakfast currently. Do you think it has any connection to all the horror movies you've been watching? You know, I'm sure they're not helping. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Probably not. But yeah, pretty scary. Pretty scary. Emily, what about you? I mean, I was just going to say that Mercury is in retrograde. Okay. Here's the thing about me and astrology is I like it. i know very little about it but i love
Starting point is 00:02:09 to talk about it and think about it there's a lot to know and one of my best friends um does not live in la so she's not into astrology because that's the dividing line and she is fascinated by people in la being into astrology and she follows an account that was like oh mercury's and she sent it to me and she's like I still don't know what this means and she's like very frustrated and my understanding of it is just that like it makes things go a little wonky and like
Starting point is 00:02:33 especially like technology and you know what Postmates has been fucking with me and I really I'm blaming it on Mercury retrograde so fair that's what's been scary so if we lose this recording it's because of Mercury's because of Mercury and retrograde yeah I. That's what's been scary. So if we lose this recording, it's because of Mercury. It's because of Mercury and retrograde. I mean, it's a weird
Starting point is 00:02:49 time. It's a weird time. What's the movie this week, Sammy? This week's movie is Doctor Sleep. It is a new movie. Just came out. 2019. Two hours, 31 minutes long. Majorly flopped at the box office did it yeah they're
Starting point is 00:03:06 upset they're upset about it but um but well reviewed um okay well okay all right it is uh directed by mike flanagan and starring ewan mcgregor Rebecca Ferguson, Kylie Curran, Cliff Curtis, Zane McLernan. These names are wild. Emily Allen Lind. Maybe I wrote down too many names. We don't know any of these people. These mean nothing to me. I want to point out that Rebecca something. What's her name?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Ferguson. She is the hot chick. One of the hot chicks. They're all hot. From Mission Impossible. She's a babe. She is such a babe. I still don't know who that is. She's cool. Take our word for it. She's hot and she's in those movies. And here to talk about it with us is a very special guest.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He is a director, a producer, a fellow Stephen King hater. I didn't know that. And I've practiced saying his last name so I hope I get it right. It's
Starting point is 00:04:12 Dominic Chikadikola. How is that? Did I do it right? Yeah, that was really good. How would you say it, Dominic? Because I would love to hear Dominic Chikadikola. That sounds more natural. But the pronunciation was good. Chico de Cola.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Chico de Cola. Chico de Cola. Chico de Cola. Chico de Cola. Is it annoying having a hard to pronounce name? No. Great. Yeah, I've loved it actually. I think it makes me more cognizant of all
Starting point is 00:04:41 the names around me. You don't make assumptions. No. And also, I've become really good at pronouncing odd names. Like Nguyen. When I first saw Nguyen, I knew exactly how to say it. Okay. Wow, what a gift.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Very specific brag. I love a specific brag. That's an N-G-U-Y-E-N last name. I thought it was Nguyen. It's Nguyen? Nguyen. It's Nguyen? Nguyen. It's Nguyen. Dom, did anything scary happen to you this week? I think the big headline from this week for me is I didn't nap once.
Starting point is 00:05:16 That's scary. I napped the entire week. You're a big napper? Huge. And it runs in my family. My dad's a huge napper. Okay. My mom takes naps. How long are your naps usually?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Anywhere from like 12 to three hours. Oh, 12 minutes to three hours. Anywhere from 12 minutes to three hours. Anywhere from a full night's sleep to a crisp three hours. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, opening up, I started taking a new supplement and it took like a week and a half.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And then all of a sudden, I think I found the right way to take it. You have more energy? Is that what's happening? Yeah. Is it rhodiola by any chance? No, it's called COQ10. Oh, CoQ10. CoQ10. Wow, I look like you mispronounced it, Dom. pronounced dom well and i'm actually in the coqh which is like the quinol it's there's two types
Starting point is 00:06:07 of coq10 okay quite quite known and quinol okay yeah wow this one's the more i gotta try these out because i too am a big a big napper yeah um and silent jenna is as well she's not here today but she naps almost every day and i usually as well. I napped yesterday for two hours. That sounds so nice. Are you guys just really good at falling asleep? Can you just like lie down and fall asleep? I am pretty good at it. I go through phases. Yeah, usually
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't like lay down unless I'm tired. Yeah, I would say the nap has to find me. Yeah. You know, I can't be like, I'm going to take a nap and then take a nap. I normally have to be like, oh, oh, wait. It could be, a nap could happen and then I have to find that perfect moment and then it's great. 100%.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Do you like scary movies, Tom? Yeah, I do like scary movies. What kind of scary movies? Like what version, you know, the horror, the thriller, the art house, the gore. The sci-fi, the monster., the gore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Look at you. The sci-fi, the monster. I don't even know what half of those are. Those are really good. The animal themed. Do you like the animal themed? The animated ones. Animated horror?
Starting point is 00:07:16 You know, Nightmare Before Christmas. All that stop motion stuff they're doing. Cora Line. Cora Line. Scary. Thing with the buttons for the eyes. I like a lot of horror. Coraline. Coraline. Scary. The thing with the buttons for the eyes. I like a lot of horror.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I like smart. I like funny horror. Like Cabin in the Woods. I was going to say. I think it's one of my more favorite, more recent. Classically,
Starting point is 00:07:37 I think The Shining is probably my favorite. I also like The Ring. My least favorite is like the torture porn horror. Like Saw. Yeah, like The Ring. My least favorite is like the the like torture porn. Like Saw. Sometimes when it's movies
Starting point is 00:07:49 too much or too scary I like read the Wikipedia or like a plot synopsis. I'm just like no too much. Like this movie I don't know if you've ever seen this movie called Wolf Creek. Never. Oh wait someone else explained Wolf creek to me
Starting point is 00:08:06 recently i've never even heard it sounded very scary it wasn't me it wasn't you i read the wikipedia thing right when i started to watch it and i got so scared from the wikipedia thing the plot was just too messed up yeah yeah yeah we're gonna have to do that one on the podcast hostels i'm not really into it. That's kind of what this podcast is for. It's like our bread and butter. It's like an hour long Wikipedia article. With no facts.
Starting point is 00:08:33 With no facts. It's an unreliable one hour Wikipedia audiobook. Probably more reliable than Wikipedia. Maybe Wikipedia is just, yes, you're right. Sometimes. Hello everybody.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It is time for Cocktail Hour. This week's cocktail is a wallbanger. Not a Harvey wallbanger. We don't like anything named Harvey. Just a plain old wallbanger. We chose this cocktail because there is a scene in the movie where some words are banged into a wall. But it's really good. So to make a wall banger, you need one and a half ounces of gin, three quarters an ounce of vanilla syrup, three quarters an ounce of
Starting point is 00:09:20 grapefruit juice, a half an ounce of lemon juice, and one ounce of soda water. You will combine the first four ingredients in a shaker, add ice and shake, strain into a Collins glass, add ice, and top with the soda water. Stir a little bit to mix and garnish with a grapefruit twist. This drink is light, refreshing, delicious. You're gonna love it. Cheers. Do we have any trivia about this movie? Oh. I have one little thing. I have one little thing.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Well, besides the fact that it bombed royally at the box office. I looked it up, and actually I should see if I can pull that up. What's this movie called? Doctor Sleep. I think it was supposed to Hollywood. No. Hollywood. Yes. Hollywood Reporter headline
Starting point is 00:10:14 box office Doctor Sleep's dismal $14 million debut terrifies Hollywood. It's a little dramatic. It's a little dramatic but they? It's a little dramatic, but they were expecting it to do much, much better. I think they were expecting to make 25 to 30 mil opening weekend, and it barely made $14 million.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. One thing I do know is that Stephen King likes this movie. Bad sign. Bad sign. Bad sign. He has really terrible taste. Red flag. Yeah. We keep doing Stephen King movies.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I mean, Lotta, he's a big name in horror. He's a big name in horror. We just have to accept it. We're masochists. We can't help it. We just love to hate it. He's kind of the king. The king.
Starting point is 00:11:02 The Stephen King. The trivia that I found is that that mike flanagan who's mike flanagan did he direct this did you write this directed i think wrote as well he also did haunt you in pill house so i like this trivia because it sort of um is a burn on stephen king so great um mike flanagan had to convince stephen king that despite his own distaste for Stanley Kubrick's The Shining audiences were more familiar with that version and largely preferred it to King's own The Shining as such this film had to be a
Starting point is 00:11:32 sequel to Kubrick's film and include some direct references to it. Yep. Which he did not want. Sorry Stephen. Sorry Stephen. I bet he hated that. Yeah. He must have hated that. Yeah sorry Stephen but he did like this movie which is weird. Get your shit together Stephen King. Figure out who's side you're on like this movie, which is weird. Get your shit together, Stephen King. Figure out who's side you're on. But it's a bad movie.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Well, the movie mashes up things from the book and things from the movie in ways that are like you know, a little, sort of like asking forgiveness, I feel. There's some things that we'll talk about, I'm pretty sure, pretty soon. Yeah, we'll get into it. I just have some casting what-ifs.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I love those. I know we like these. So everyone that was up for the role and met with the director, we had Ewan McGregor, obviously. Dan Stevens. Who's that? Much younger choice. Who is that? Dan Stevens is
Starting point is 00:12:20 from Legion. Beauty and the Beast. That famous image that I'm obsessed with of him in his like crazy huge motion capture suit next to Tiny Emma Watson. He's from Downton Abbey. Right? I've never seen Downton Abbey.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, who is he? Downton Abbey. I've never seen it. I just know he's in it. He's British. You'd recognize him. And okay, Chris Evans. Kind of a weird one. Weird. A little weird. Matt Smith. You recognize him. And, okay, Chris Evans. Oh. Kind of a weird one. Weird. A little weird. Matt Smith.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Let's see. He was a Doctor Who, I believe. Okay. And Jeremy Renner. I don't know. That's really all over the map there. Guys, Jeremy Renner is so funny. Jeremy Renner is, he's recently become like the butt of every joke, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah, he's had, yeah. But by his own doing, I would say. What did he do? I feel like he started like a music career. Yeah. He was in weird commercials and he started like an app, some sort of cell phone app. He takes a lot of selfies with captions about his children, but they're not in the picture. What?
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's really bizarre. Guys, check it out. Check it out. Check out his Instagram. It's weird. Should we watch out check out his instagram it's weird should we watch the trailer yeah let's watch the trailer hi you can hear me your magic like me i don't know about magic. I always called it the shining. The world is a hungry place. A dangerous place.
Starting point is 00:13:56 These empty devils, they'll eat what shines. And they've noticed that little girl. They'll eat what shines. And they've noticed that little girl. Well, hi there. Get out of my head! Get out! I haven't felt power like that in so long. They're coming. Yes, you run, dear. And then i will find you and you will scream for years come play with us forever and ever
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Starting point is 00:18:11 We're in a trailer park. Oh, trailer park. I think they live there. Okay. You know, I get the idea. It's a community. Near like a lake. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:18:18 She wanders off towards the lake. She's wearing like violet purple. Okay. Her name is Violet. Her name is Violet. Her name is Violet. She's like, Violet, don't go too far. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And Violet, and she's looking for violets. Uh-huh. The flower. Oh my God. And near the water, there is a woman with violets in her hand. Yeah. Wearing a, I think a pretty stupid hat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But she, it's her calling card. Yes. Right? She says her name is something the hat. And she says, my hat is like such a big part of who I am that it's part of my name now. Her name is Rose the Hat. This is Rebecca Ferguson. She's a babe.
Starting point is 00:18:57 She's a babe. Total babe. But the hat is stupid. Babe in a stupid hat. I definitely would have talked to her if I was a little kid. Yeah. I'll talk to her right now. It's like a little top hat. It's a top hat. Like a magician's hat. I definitely would have talked to her if I was a little kid. I'll talk to her right now. It's like a little top hat.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's a top hat, like a magician's hat. But like a little top hat. Like a little top hat. Like a Monopoly top hat. A lady's top hat. And so she starts doing a little magic trick for the girl or something. She says, look at my hat. It's a magic
Starting point is 00:19:24 hat. She kills a bunch of flowers and then the violets something. She says, look at my hat. It's a magic hat. Reach in there. She kills a bunch of flowers and then the violets come out. Meanwhile, suddenly, in the forest, people are appearing. Right. She's looking a little nervous. She's been told, don't talk to strangers. The hat's
Starting point is 00:19:39 chill. It's cool. Rose is like, that's fine. Those are all my friends. We're good. We're good. They're just appearing and standing. Not smiling. The hat says, Viol like, that's fine. Those are all my friends. Like, we're good. We're good. And they're just like appearing and standing. Not smiling. The hat says, Violet, you're special. You know, like what's in my hat before I tell you what it is or something. Right. Uh oh.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And you kind of get that she has the shining. She shines. She shines. She shines. She's a shiner. And. The friends close in. Everyone closes in.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And then they. Maybe some scream. Right. Yeah. Something like that. in. And then they maybe some scream. Right. Yeah. Something like that. And then cut to still 1980. Danny Torrance from The Shining. Half a world away in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yes. Still in the hotel. The kid. Yes. The kid. Same year that Shining. Yes. OK.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So it's him on his little tricycle riding around in the hallways. And he goes to room 237 door is open slowly the like disgusting old woman appears through the doorway and then he like snaps awake and it was a nightmare and it's like just a little while after that and they're living in florida now i believe yeah some seaside town. They wanted to get as far away from Colorado. But even before that, so the room 237 and the carpet, those are
Starting point is 00:20:52 all Stanley Kubrick movie touches. Right. And in the book, that room is number 217. Three is scarier. Right. Stanley Kubrick also hated Stephen King, by the way. And the whole story.
Starting point is 00:21:07 There are a lot of things in The Shining that Stanley Kubrick did on purpose just to say, I'm killing your book. This is my story. He completely changed the end, right? Isn't the end completely different? So then we cut to Danny on a park bench With Dick Halloran In Florida Dick Halloran is a
Starting point is 00:21:31 Ghost presumably Yeah that's why I said that Cause he died So Dick Halloran is telling Danny Or Danny is saying how The ghosts I guess are still Haunting him in his dreams The old lady and all the different Things from, I guess, are still haunting him in his dreams.
Starting point is 00:21:51 The old lady and all the different things from the Overlook Hotel are still like following him and kind of clinging to him. And he shows him a little box. Dick Halloran shows Danny a little box and he's like, memorize this box and you are going to lock them in this box in your mind. Right. I don't think Danny's actually talking at this point. OK. I think Dick knows it because he can read his mind or something. Right, right, right, right, right. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Either way. But there's the box. Yes. He's like, this is what you got to do. Lock away these. It's a little jewelry box. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And so then we get to Danny back in his house with his mom. They're watching Bugs Bunny. They're watching Bugs Bunny. What's up, Doc? What's up, Doc? What's up, Doc? That's his nickname. Dursleep? Not that I hate that.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Who plays his mom in this? Oh, man. I'm so glad you asked. I don't actually know, but she's really going for Shelley Duvall. All of the characters from The Shining are really going for the actor's portrayal of their character in The Shining. I thought she
Starting point is 00:22:44 did well. I liked her. I think she did great. And I thought that Dick Halloran The Shining. I thought she did well. I liked her. I think she did great. And I thought the decalorant was also good. Yeah, I did too. I think all of the ones that imitated the previous performances did pretty good. Yeah. So, okay, we're there watching Bugs Bunny and Danny's like, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I got something to take care of. But he says this in his mind. He doesn't say anything yet because he's still like freaked out. Okay. And his mom is like, where are you going? He's like, where are you going? He's like, oh, Jesus looks back. He's like, it's a breeze.
Starting point is 00:23:08 He's just like walking to the bathroom. And you see in the bathroom, the bathtub, the old woman is in the bathtub pulling the shower curtain back like she did in The Shining. And he goes in there with her and like closes the door. She looked really friendly, by the way. She looked like grandma. I don't know. like grandma, smiling when he comes in the room. She's like, hey, Danny. Well, she's excited to eat him.
Starting point is 00:23:30 She's probably happy to be in Florida. Excited to eat him. You know, she's like, Florida is so nice. Upgrade for me. It's not snowy outside. Thanks for bringing me here. I love it here. Thank you, Danny.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Just want to thank you for this wonderful bath. So grateful. Yeah. But so then he closes himself in there with her and then comes out a little bit later and is kind of like shaking off his hands. He's like, all right. I locked her up in the box in my mind and goes back and sits down and continues watching TV with his mom.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And he's like, mom, don't have to worry about anything ever and again. Yeah. He says something like that to her. I'm pretty sure. He says something because now we know Danny can talk again. He's like all better. He's dealing with it. He's all better. Yeah. He says something like that to her, I'm pretty sure. He says something because now we know Danny can talk again. He's like all better. He's dealing with it. He's all better. Yeah. He couldn't talk before.
Starting point is 00:24:11 He was too freaked out. Yeah, he couldn't talk after what happened at the Overlook Hotel. That makes sense. So the implication is that he, how did he solve the problem of the old woman? He's locking her up in a box in his mind. It's like how when you were, when you were a kid and you had nightmares, did you
Starting point is 00:24:28 ever anyone tell you like spray spray paint on the monster in your nightmares and then it won't be able to get you? No. Is that just me? Wow. So specific. What kind of graffiti parents did you have? It was actually my sister. Hey, she listens. Hi Sarah, if we don't cut this out. That's a smart idea.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It worked. I remember spraying spray paint on the shark cut this out. That's a smart idea. It worked. I remember spraying spray paint on the shirt. It's like that. It's like Mind Over Matter. It's Compartmentalizing. Yeah, it is. Then we cut to 2011 and we cut to Danny who is now Dan, Ewan McGregor
Starting point is 00:25:00 waking up in bed with a naked woman who has vomited everywhere. She's passed out. She's vomited in the bed. It's not cool. has like vomited everywhere she's passed out she's vomited like in the bed in the bed it's not cool oh gross but she's kind of hot still but it's not cool um and then it's kind of like intercut with shots of the night before he's remembering what happened you see him like getting real drunk doing coke um getting in a bar fight he almost kills someone with a cue ball yep oh yeah he, yeah. He punches him real good. A lot. And that's what really turns the girl on. And she's like, ooh, we got to go home together.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Pretty sweet. And he wakes up in her house the next morning. And so he gets up and starts stealing money from her wallet. He doesn't have his money on him. Oh, he checks his wallet first. And he's like, oh, she took my money to buy the coke
Starting point is 00:25:46 so now I'm going to steal her money. Enter. Decaloran. That's right. Ghost of a man. Being like his little like. Jiminy Cricket. Being like, what are you doing, Dan? And then there's a kid. Yes. So then in the other room, all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:26:01 there's like a two-year-old crying and crawling into the room. Soiled pajamas. Soiled pajamas. Blonde, curly hair. Beautiful baby. Very cute baby. Except dirty and stinks. And is in a like... Yeah, because mom's drunk and high on coke
Starting point is 00:26:17 and like puking everywhere. And Dan like lifts up the baby and sits him next to his mom on the vomit bed. He picks up a bag of Cheez-Its. Oh, and gives him a bag of Cheez-Its. And gives him a bag of Cheez-Its. And steals her money and leaves.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah. Gives her the kid, takes the money. So we get the idea that he's not doing great in his adult life. He's still got some demons. He's drowning them out with alcohol and drugs. Something's going on with Dan. He's not great. He's hit rock bottom.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You see him underneath the freeway. He's like in a little tent town. Yeah. There's a train that goes by. Maybe he lives on it. He gets more drunk. Something else happens. He throws up somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So he's like homeless. He's like a homeless man. He's pretty homeless. And then we get a scene where we meet Abra, a little girl. And it's like her birthday party, I believe. And there's a magician and the magician is balancing a spoon on his fingers or something. And the little girl goes, I can do that, too. And the magician's like kind of a dick about it.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And he's like, OK, like, cool. And then you see her parents inside and all of the silverware in their kitchen is out of the drawers and on the floor and all of the spoons are like levitating from the ceiling oh wow and then as they powerful little girl yeah and so as they look at them they all
Starting point is 00:27:38 like fall down and crash everywhere yeah shake it's scary scary so scared it's a jump scare I have a really terrible joke. Let's hear it. Is her name Abracadabra? Well, that was the stupidest thing. I was shocked that her name... I thought it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Because she does. There's a line where the magician asks, who knows the magic word? And she's like, me, me, me. Because it's my fucking name, I guess. Right. So stupid. I mean, she doesn't swear, but that is what she says. Is that the name of the book? Her name is Abra.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It must be. That sounds like a dumb Stephen King thing, right? No one else could make that up. That's the master of horror at work. Okay, then we cut to a movie theater where a young teenage girl is watching casablanca and a older man comes and sits next to her and says you're prettier than your photo and she says you're older than your photo so they're sitting watching the movie and then she says like her head on his shoulder and whispers in his ear. Aren't you or you're feeling pretty sleepy.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And he starts kind of nodding. And then she says sleep and he falls asleep. And like 10 rows behind them are Rose the Hat and one of the other like gypsy looking guys from the woods. Yes. Bad people. Bad people. The most recognizable one with like the mustache
Starting point is 00:29:09 and the cool hat. I remember the trailer. His name is Crow Daddy. Oh, Jay. Crow Daddy. The master of horror at work. That's the fucking coolest thing I've heard all day.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You get the feeling like Crow Daddy and Rose the Hat are kind of a thing. Yep. They have a real affection for each other. Yep. And Crow Daddy's been watching this young woman who's in the theater
Starting point is 00:29:29 making the guy sleep and Rose is like this doesn't seem that special. And Crow Daddy's like but check this out. And then she tells the guy to go to sleep and Rose is like oh. And then she says the word. What's the word? She says something like we haven't had one like this. It's like a pusher or a...
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah, something like that. Suggester or a... Something like that. Person that tells people things and then they do it. I can't remember the word. But basically, they haven't had someone with this power in their little group for a while. So, they are wanting to recruit her. Seems like.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And while this guy's passed out next to her, she cuts into his face. Like, you'll be able to explain away to your wife and kids where you were tonight, but you won't be able to explain away this. And carves things into his face. Like two little scratches. A couple vampire bites or something.
Starting point is 00:30:20 They look like a vampire scratch. Then she steals all his money and gets up and leaves. And then outside Rose the Hat grabs her like sneaks up on her grabs her. And she's like, you want to let go of me? Like she's trying to use her powers on Rose the Hat. And Rose is like, no, honey, no, I don't. She's very powerful. She doesn't work on her.
Starting point is 00:30:44 So then she freaks out and then all the friends come and it's Rose the Hat and her friends and she's like, do you want to live for a really long time? Like I was like, oh, I'm intrigued. Then they go to the beach. They like kidnap her. Yeah. Put her in a camper van. Camper van.
Starting point is 00:30:57 She wakes up in a camper van and. Oh, that's right. The next day. Uh huh. And she's like, I can make you live... Or she says, how old are you? And she says, 15. She's like, I can make you stay 15 for a very long time. She's like, maybe in 100 years you'll be 17.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Mm-hmm. You know, but you won't really age very much. Man, can you let me like grow 10 more years and then keep me at 25 for a really long time? I was gonna say, I wouldn't want to stay at 15. Oh, fuck. But I guess she's 15, so she doesn't know. She doesn't know. But... God no. An eternity of 15? Well. I wouldn't want to stay at 15. No, but I guess she's 15, so she doesn't know. She doesn't know. God, no.
Starting point is 00:31:27 An eternity of 15? That would be a bummer. That's a bummer. So then I think we leave them for a bit, and we get back to Dan, who has hopped on a bus. He just got on a bus. To where? New Hampshire? New Hampshire. And, um...
Starting point is 00:31:43 But it's actually Covington, Georgia. Oh, yes. Let me just say. I just shot it's actually Covington, Georgia. Oh, yes. Let me just say. I just shot a show in Covington, Georgia. So you recognized it. Yeah. And also, this is a town that's used in like hundreds of TV shows and movies. Shout out to Covington.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So, yeah. Big time. Covington, Georgia. Covington, Georgia. Plays for New Hampshire. Plays for New Hampshire. And so, but he gets off and he's in New Hampshire. He meets Billy.
Starting point is 00:32:03 He doesn't know why he stopped in New Hampshire. And neither do we. That's right. There's not even a bus stop, actually, where the bus stops. It's very weird. It's so weird. Billy is building what he calls... Teeny Town.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Teeny Town. Who's Billy? Billy's the guy that he meets outside of Teeny Town. Oh, okay. He's a new person who really takes to Dan immediately. He's like, I've seen your kind before. Your look. Oh, okay. He's a new person who really takes to Dan immediately. He's like, I've seen your kind before. Your look. Like your look.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Like you're running away from something. And he's like, running away from myself I guess. And he's like, well, do you need a job and a house? Like, let me get you all set up. And takes him to get a room for rent in the same building as him. And it has a big
Starting point is 00:32:46 chalk wall in it. Then we're back to Rose and Andy. Oh, by the way, they name her Snake by Andy, the girl, the pusher or whatever the term is. And they are going to turn her into one of them. They're kind of like vampire-y
Starting point is 00:33:02 type things. Yeah. This is all very stupid. I think this is the weakest part of the movie is basically they hunt people with a shining and inhale their steam. To take their powers? To take their powers which gives them
Starting point is 00:33:18 immortality-ish almost. Yeah, it's like drinking unicorn blood or... But they're like vampires I would have rather they just like actually drank their blood. That would have been great. Like, it just looks stupid to inhale like little puffs of smoke from their mouth. It just looks dumb. Yeah, that's weird. It's like, um, um, um,
Starting point is 00:33:34 like, like how dementors do in Harry Potter movies where they like... Yeah, but... And they like breathe their... But that looked better, too. Yeah. This just looks dumb. So they're having this little... Wait, one question. So is the implication that they are taking the power away from her or she's sharing it with all of them? So they're not taking anything from her.
Starting point is 00:33:51 They're giving her the steam of Violet, the little girl from the beginning. That was 20 years ago. 30 years ago. Well, yeah. Yeah. They store steam from a lot of people. They store steam. Steam's got a long shelf life. They store steam from a lot of people. They store steam. Steam's got a long shelf life.
Starting point is 00:34:06 They've got like these little jars that have steam in it. So they kill the people who have the shining and then they take their steam. Yes. They take the steam while they're killing them. The more scared a person is, the more steam they release. Pain and fear purifies the steam or something like that. Well put. Well put.
Starting point is 00:34:21 They like make it the most torturous painful experience they can because that makes the steam better and more potent or something well that's fucked up um so they correct to say the least it is fucked up so they give andy snake bite andy violets steam and from their own mouths from their own mouths doing a their own mouths, doing a little, what do you call? CPR. But reverse. No, it's like CPR. That's hot. I always thought so about CPR. CPR is hot.
Starting point is 00:34:56 It's really, really hot. Like mouth to mouth. Yeah. Hell yeah. Y'all do some mouth to mouth. So she, you know, like convulses and seizures and it's apparently very painful. To get the steam. Well, like the first time you have the
Starting point is 00:35:11 steam, something is happening with the anatomy I suppose. You die. You're like becoming the vampire. Yeah. Something like that. It's all stupid. It looks very stupid. Okay, so she's... It sounds stupid. Yeah. She's one of them now um dan back to dan in his little room and he sees a fly on the wall and he's sleeping in bed and he has like a
Starting point is 00:35:40 dead hand around him like a gray hand as if someone is spooning him. And he slowly gets out of the bed, freaked out, and then the hand grabs him and he jumps away and then it's the mom and the baby from the earlier scene and they're
Starting point is 00:35:59 dead. Oh my god. But I don't think that they are dead. This is a confusing part i mean but i don't think that they are dead this is like a confusing like the baby certainly wasn't dead so we're thinking like it's just his guilt maybe probably his guilt yeah he's being haunted in another sense yeah good point thank you um but then this um makes him kind of freaks him out enough that then he goes to Billy and he's like, I need help. Like you said, you've seen people like me before. I think I need some help. Meaning he wants to stop drinking.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Billy takes him to an AA meeting. This is what Billy thinks. Yeah. Sure. Totally. Yeah. Because Billy doesn't know about the monsters in his head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 He's like, you're just an alcoholic. You just hit rock bottom. So they go to an aa meeting together and there's a person who's leading the the thing who's a famous actor you know who's who was he no idea he's been in a bunch of stuff before and he's like is there anybody else who's got a great story and danny's like well i've only been 24 hours sober he's like oh that's great come on and tell your story and so he talks a little bit and they talk after the meeting and he shakes the guy's hand and he notices that he's messing with his wrist. The guy who's leading the meeting.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And then Danny, for some reason, goes up to him when the guy's leaving. He's like, oh, by the way, you left your watch on the soap basin near the operating room because I know you're a doctor and you're worried about your watch. But don't worry, it's there. And the guy's the guy's like well that's interesting how did you know that he's like i get an intuition about things sometimes and then the guy like has him in his office the next day and it's like he's like do you want a job you want a job do you want a job it's like not freaked out that he's like a freak he's just like hey let's get this guy a job yeah i would feel like he was stalking me. That would be my first assumption if someone knew that kind of detail
Starting point is 00:37:48 about my life. He's like, I need good men. I need an orderly to work three days a week. A good man's hard to find, harder to keep. I think he says that. Then I think we get a scene of him working as orderly. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:04 This is kind of sad. This is when he goes into room 217, which is the original 237 from The Shining. But now it's in the hospital. Which is really more like a hospice. This is where people die. Yeah. Okay. And there's a very...
Starting point is 00:38:19 Not great for Dan. No. There's a very, very, very cute cat. Talk about the kitty. There's a cat in this film? White, fluffy. I mean, it's adorable. And it runs down the
Starting point is 00:38:33 hall and like scratches at this door and pushes open a door. And Dan's like, oh, you're not supposed to go in there and like kind of goes in after. And it's the cat is sitting at the foot of a man in a hospital bed and the man like wakes up and it's like oh the cat's here like she always knows when people are about to go like i had a feeling it was almost time and dan is like do you
Starting point is 00:39:03 want me to get a doctor um is there anything i can get for you and he's like no no like just stay with me like i can feel that it's time and he's kind he's kind of scared i think he's like i just want someone to be with me i'm scared i don't know what's gonna happen right i need comfort comfort me danny uh-huh and dan says it's gonna be oh it's gonna be okay it's not it doesn't end at death right nothing ever really dies right yeah like we go on and he's holding his hand it's very sweet i shed a tear in this part and this is where he says you're like doctor sleep and then he dies he dies dies. Yeah. Peacefully. Peacefully holding Dan's hand.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And Dan kind of does this a few times. We like it. I think maybe see one more scene where he's kind of doing you get the feeling that he's doing this for all the patients here. Just guiding them more peacefully. Does that cat have the shining? Yeah. I think all cats. Maybe all cats. I think all cats
Starting point is 00:40:04 have the shining. Wow. And then we all cats i think all cats have the shining wow um and then we get a time jump a little eight years later oh big one and it jumps to dan at an aa meeting getting his eight year chip um and then he's back in his room uh with his little uh chalk wall which says hello on it and it's in the same handwriting that we saw Abra has earlier at the birthday party scene earlier and can he like hear her in his head too I think so I think so I think he
Starting point is 00:40:36 hears like hello like you can hear me and so he's he writes back on the chalk wall they're having little conversations through this chalk wall yeah they have been for years, I think. And he's like, morning. Get ready for school or whatever. Hey, Abra.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Nice to see you. Cool name. Yeah. And then Jacob Tremblay is in this movie. Do you guys know who Jacob Tremblay is? Yeah, from Room. Yeah, I was kind of shocked to see him um so we go to a child's baseball game jacob trembley is the batter and crow daddy is in the
Starting point is 00:41:16 bleachers yeah crow daddy oh watch out and like a parent is like in the audience being like he's so good people say he can read the pitcher's mind and crow daddy is like looking like licking his lips oh no and then jacob tremblay is walking home after practice by himself by himself through like a cornfield in the middle of nowhere maybe his parents were watching the game or maybe not i guess somehow he's just all by himself in the middle of cornfield. And then a van pulls up next to him and it's the group of vampire people. And he's like, doesn't want to talk to them at first.
Starting point is 00:41:57 He's like, no, I'm just going home. Like, leave me alone. There's like a tubby vampire guy. Yeah. It's like. Oh, I forgot his name. It was a great game. Oh, what was his name?
Starting point is 00:42:04 It was so good. It was like tubby or something. But he was like, his name. It was a great game. Oh, what was his name? It was so good. It was like Tubby or something. But he's like, great game. You played a great game, kid. Come have a ride with us. And he's like, no, thank you. I don't talk to strangers. And then Snakebite Andy opens the door and she's like, you want to get in the car with us. Like, you're not afraid of us. And he's
Starting point is 00:42:20 like, I want to get in the car with you. I'm not afraid of you. And they... Good skill to have. They snatch him and they take him... He's like, I want to get in the car with you. I'm not afraid of you. Good skill to have. They snatch him and they take him. It's like an abandoned ethanol factory or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they tie him down to the ground.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It's very dark at night. All the headlights are shining upon him. And they tell him that this is going to be painful and you're going to be scared. And he starts getting really scared and kind of like freaks out. And then they cut him open and start like disemboweling him a little bit. What? A very violent death. Real violent. And then the steam starts to come out of him and they're like sucking on the steam and
Starting point is 00:42:57 they're really getting turned on. Ew. Oh no. Poor Jacob Tremblay. Yeah. A great performance by Jacob Tremblay, but he's really only in the movie for about 10 minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Three scenes. But yeah, so they're killing him very slowly, very painfully. He is really, really screaming and screaming. Blood is going everywhere. Lots of blood. They have some real nasty looking knives that they're using. Yeah. Rusty and hooked.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yep. And then we see that abra is feeling it and abra like shoots up in bed and is like screaming and then danny wakes up and then bangs red rum into the wall into the chalk wall it like wakes him up because he i don't think he can feel it i don't think he's feeling it but i think he feels abra Abra or hears Abra. And she's, so Abra is like, like, stop it, stop it. And Rose like senses her watching or feeling it. And so Rose is like looking out around them
Starting point is 00:43:56 while they're doing the killing and like senses Abra's presence. And then afterwards to Crow Daddy is like, I felt someone, I feel like someone from really far away meaning their power is really strong. This little girl is special. Like we really gotta find her.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Gotta get that steam. That steam is gonna be. Yeah. That steam is gonna be real nice. Top shelf steam. Well cause also there's this conversation about how there's not as much steam in the world anymore. People are on medication now. People are like watching the internet.
Starting point is 00:44:30 So it's like totally and it's like you know all these things are tapping down people's psychic energy. Less steam in the world. It's really hard to find somebody who like hasn't treated their ADD or whatever it is. That's actually the shine
Starting point is 00:44:45 the shiny that should go off our mitts we all have the shiny oh my god I just thought I was depressed how often do you think they need to suck on the steam great question sammy um unclear but there there are times where i think they actually do say like every six months right well they say six months she's like that's we've gone much longer than six months it's not that bad right but they definitely do like get weak if they don't have it. Got it. So okay so then Abra is like on a little mission to find this kid. So then she gets on the bus.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Same bus. So what's his name got on? Danny. It's like the same bus. Right? And it takes her to the same place. Mystery bus. Mystery bus to the same place Teenytown. Which has now been in operation for eight years. At least, yeah. And Teenytown is sort of like Travel Town or it's basically
Starting point is 00:45:49 it's a place for little kids to ride kid-sized trains around like a little tree in the middle of the square. I pictured it like little miniatures, like real, real, real teeny. But no, it's just like... Somewhere between that and actual size. Okay, medium town.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And yeah. Danny's like a conductor. He's like working there and they go and sit on a bench together. And he's like, it's really inappropriate for us to be talking. He's like, it's, that was a weird part, but Billy does like, just going to call that out. Billy does give him a look like what's he doing talking to this like 12 year old girl because billy runs teeny town yeah so billy knows billy's looking out for pedophiles regularly and he is not a pedophile he's not one of them
Starting point is 00:46:40 no he's not looking for them he knows what to look for. Yeah. But so Abra says, basically, I felt these crazy vampire gang killing this little boy. I know where they are. I saw the sign in my vision and I need your help to stop them. And Dan says, no. He's like, what you're going to want to do is dull your shine and like try to like stay away from them. Like stay out of it. Honestly, that seems like really good advice. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:14 But obviously she's not going to follow that advice. Yeah. She's brave. She's a Gryffindor. She's definitely a Gryffindor. She's totally probably a Gryffindor. Totally, probably, definitely. Totally, probably, definitely.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I feel like Danny's like a Hufflepuff. Totally, probably, definitely. Totally, probably, definitely. I feel like Dany's like a Hufflepuff. Totally, probably, definitely. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think so. Hmm. Okay. And all the vampire gang are Slytherins.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Exactly. Who's a Ravenclaw? What is Billy? Billy? No. No. The cat? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Dick Halloran? He's dead. We have to complete this metaphor. I'm sorry. I brought it up. Maybe it's the doctor with the watch. Oh, yeah. Oh, duh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Of course, that's the choice. Great. Now we can move on. So he sends her on her way. He's like, no, I'm not going to help you and this is dangerous, so do what you got to, I'm not going to help you. And this is dangerous. So do what you got to do to like not let them find you. Then we get the back in the hospice place, the cat going into a room that Dan is like, that room's empty.
Starting point is 00:48:17 What are you doing? And it's Dick Halloran. Dick. This is Dick. That's right. And he basically gives him a pep talk where he's like, I did this for you as a little boy. I
Starting point is 00:48:29 risked my life for you. And died. And died. Not just risked. Sorry. Sacrificed myself. And like, Abra is asking this of you now. Word. And it's like you gotta do it. You gotta do it. You got to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:45 You got to do it. Be a Gryffindor. I know you're a Hufflepuff and this is hard for you. If Cedric Diggory can do it, you can do it. Exactly. Rose is ramping up her search for Abra. She's going onto the roof of her RV and she's doing some meditating. This is where she's like, she's got the antenna out.
Starting point is 00:49:04 She's searching for the vibes so she can direct everyone where to go. And she's doing some like astral projecting. For sure. She starts to fly. She starts to fly around like the Earth's atmosphere. Okay. I thought it looked cool. I thought it looked really cool.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Okay. Oh, a good part of the movie. I thought this part was cool. This is actually probably my favorite part of the movie. Oh, okay. I think so. So she's floating around the Earth's atmosphere, tracing Abra's energy and finds her way into her bedroom window.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Abra is sleeping in her bed. And on Abra's bedroom wall, there's all these filing cabinets and she, Rose is like going through the filing cabinets and you like find out that this is her mind and this is where her memories are stored and things like that. It was really cool.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So that's her, that's like her brain that she's going through in these filing cabinets and she thinks she's like really got the upper hand in this situation. The little girl's asleep in the bed and she's like, hey, I'm going through her mind. And then the filing cabinet door slams on her hand, slams her hand in there real hard. She's screaming in pain and like turns around and Abra is sitting at the foot of her bed,
Starting point is 00:50:25 staring at her without eyes. And like the white eye, right? No, it's not the white eye. It's like a, no, no,
Starting point is 00:50:32 I know. I, it's like skin only. She then goes into Rose's mind, which is a cool Harry Potter type library. It's like a gaudy cathedral, you know, that's a library and it's like card gaudy cathedral. That's a library.
Starting point is 00:50:45 It's like card catalogs. Super fine. She's just like with her fingers very rapidly going through lots of it. Rose is like trying to kick her out of her head. Also trying to get her hand out of the drawer. This is like the nasty part. She starts pulling
Starting point is 00:51:02 her hand out of the drawer and it's just ripping all the skin off of her hand out of the drawer and it's just ripping all the skin off of her hand like down to the bone but it's still staying on her hand so it's just like a bunch of skin flapping it's very gross yeah basically abra is the the stronger one of the two hell yeah and she's showing she's like totally in control abracadabra baby so stupid no so good no no not you that just the fucking name is so dumb every time i think that her name's abra i'm like god damn it i know they could have eaten much better use of it um like like henley did just now like henley did just now. Like Henley did just now. Dabba kadabba, baby. Yeah, that's a big shame that that wasn't a line.
Starting point is 00:51:50 That really should have been a line. Say the magic word. So Rose is like now like frantically trying to like pull away and get out. And Abra is like taking her time, going through all the shit. And like only when she decides that she's done, she then like flings Rose from her room. Rose like flies back through the air in like outer space. With her nasty hand. With her nasty hand. And slams back into her body on top of the RV, flies off the RV.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And her hand is like still still like her real hand is like nasty and disgusting. It's messed up. It's fucked up. And it's all dirty now because it's on the ground. She's like been slammed into the dirt. There's like leaves and stuff. Bugs. Stop.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And so then Dan wakes up Billy at four in the morning and is like, I'm going to tell you something. And it's going to be like the craziest thing you've ever heard. And I just need you to really try to believe me. And drives him out to what did you call it? It's an abandoned ethanol factory. An abandoned ethanol factory.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Because Abra has given him this information. She is like projecting herself into the backseat of their car, but only he can see her. And so Billy is just like, I'm either like in a car with a really insane person or like something really bad. Like both of these options are very bad. Nothing good is going to come of this. Yeah. And he's like, I'm going to take you to where this missing boy's body is. And they they go to the spot and dig it up and his body is there.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And this is a part that I was like, if someone drove me to where a missing boy was, I would be like, you killed this boy, right? Like, wouldn't that be your first thought? Yes. Absolutely. 100%. And you're acting crazy. You're acting crazy and you drove me right to like a place in the middle of nowhere where a child's body is buried. Like, you did this.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Billy doesn't think that at all. He's like, oh my God, you were telling the truth. Like, wow, there is a gang of vampires stealing little boys' souls. Way more understandable explanation. He really just believes the best in people, obviously. Yeah, Billy is, he's very sweet. He's a kind man. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So now Danny has Billy on his team. Yeah. Good replacement to Dick Hallerhan. What's his name? Dick Hallerhan. He needed to replace him with another buddy. And someone of diversity, which also works out. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 00:54:30 It was cool when the kid was being unearthed and his lips show up and his face. I felt like that was a good horror moment. Yeah, it was. It was spooky. They jab the shovel into his shoe and they're like, oh, here's his hand and they start throwing up. Oh, and it smells really bad. They're talking about how disgusting it smells he goes into like a six
Starting point is 00:54:47 minute story about how one time he killed a deer and he was in the trunk of the car and he thought he cleaned it all out but then six months later he found some underneath the tire and that's the smell that i smell right now he's like i never hunted a day in my life again after that because the smell was so bad and that's the smell that i'm smelling now and uh dan's like, I never hunted a day in my life again after that because the smell was so bad. And that's the smell that I'm smelling now. And Dan's like, you still got those rifles, though? Because we're going to need them. Go and get the rifles. That was great.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I'm so glad we told that part of the story. And then the vampire gang is like, all right, we're gearing up to go get Abra. Rose is like, hell yeah, like, let's go. And Crow Daddy is like, you can't come with us. Like, she's been in your mind and she'll probably be able to sense you coming. So you got to stay here. You got to chill. We're all going to go without you.
Starting point is 00:55:39 She's mad. She's like, I want to go. Dan and Billy go to Abra's. And so they're coming up with a plan. And I think Dan says something to Abra like, OK, we're going to do this. And like, I'm going to need you to pull a trick on them. And she's like, my name's Abra Cadabra. I think I can handle it.
Starting point is 00:56:00 My name says it all. Can we just I'm sorry to back up. Can we go back to the beginning actually? Can we just one thing? Because I think it's, is it when they're in the car to go get the little boy that Danny really gets into it with Abra about the boxes in his head? Because I think that's when we see like Danny actually has 15 of these boxes. Maybe. In his head.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I can't remember when that happened. So Abra's like, how is it that you've gotten over all this shit? Like, what? How do you deal with all these things? He's like, well, this man showed me a trick once. You put something in a box and you put that box in your head and you just lock it up and like make it go away forever. And then you see inside of Danny's head.
Starting point is 00:56:38 It's like inside of the maze. Right. They're like, they're not going away. The shrub maze. You have so many boxes. They're just in the box. There's like 25 boxes. There's like a ton of boxes. There's a ton of boxes.
Starting point is 00:56:46 There's a lot of potential energy there. All with things inside of them kind of wobbling, trying to get out. And it was at that point that I knew how the movie was going to end. Right, right, right. With some unboxing. A lot of unboxing. Appealing to the youth market.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Those were my favorite type of influencer. Why did they get $14 million? They should have leaned on the unboxing book. Ewan McGregor opening book. Unboxing trailer. Oh, and this one, this is an old lady that I found in a bath. Like a Kardashian. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:24 All right. All right. Back on track um so danny billy and abra are in a car driving into like the middle of the woods she's like they're they're sensing us they're following us and and he's like good good like let him let him follow us. The vampire gang gets there and Abra is like sitting on a table, cross-legged, like meditating. In the middle of a state park, in the middle of nowhere, on a picnic table. Like a picnic table. And the vampires are acting kind of like she's just hanging out there. Right. Well, so Snake by Andy is kind of doing her thing, being like, you're you're tired, you're falling asleep.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And and Abra is like falling asleep, kind of playing into it. And they inject her in the neck with like a little sleep potion thing. And Snakebite Andy's like, oh, after all the talk I heard about you, like I thought you'd be a little tougher to catch than this. Like, I thought you'd be a little tougher to catch than this. And then snap to it's a teddy bear that she has injected with a thing. And it was a trick. This is the magic trick that Dan was talking about earlier. And we see now reveal that Abra is still at her house, kind of projecting this vision to the park. Dan and Billy are actually there,
Starting point is 00:58:46 but she is not. It might have been a rabbit. It might have been a stuffed rabbit, like a rabbit out of a hat. Thank you so much. That's important detail. Abra, Abra, Abra. Nothing on my sleeve. So they inject it and then they immediately realize it's not Abra? Or are they still tricked?
Starting point is 00:59:01 And then they're kind of like, what the fuck? And they're all turning around and like, where are... Jesus, you hate this movie. Well, then, yeah, it's great though because then they start shooting. Well, then the rifles come into play. It's not today. And Billy and Danny...
Starting point is 00:59:17 Dan and Billy are hiding in the woods. Behind trees. Shooting at them with the rifles. And they are just dying left and right the vampires vampires oh that's all it takes easy to kill easy easy peasy rose back at the rv park or whatever is feeling all of their deaths screaming crying super super angry it's really emotional i think it's very emotional for her those are all her friends. They've known each other a long time. Yeah. That was easy to kill them. So they kill all of them except for
Starting point is 00:59:48 Snakebite Andy who runs into the RV and they're kind of coming up on her. She's the last one and they shoot her. She comes out of the RV. She falls onto the ground. She's been shot. She's not quite dead yet. And Billy's like going up to like finish
Starting point is 01:00:04 her. Danny's like. And Dan's like stay back.'s not quite dead yet. And Billy's like going up to like finish her. Danny's like stay away. And Dan's like stay back. And she just looks at Billy and says kill yourself. And Billy shoots himself in the head. And then she dies. Oh no. It's really sad.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And she's really laughing. She's like men. I think she says men. something like that maybe she says that a couple of times that's good writing yeah men she's a very empowered character yeah look a lot can be said but that one word yeah um and then uh abra is is sending Dan a telepathic message being like where's Crow Daddy where's Crow Daddy I like see
Starting point is 01:00:49 I saw all of them except for Crow Daddy and then we see her Crow Daddy is in her house and actually injects her in the neck with a thing and gets her boom boom Crow Daddy puts her over his shoulder walks out of the house we see in the background, far in the distance,
Starting point is 01:01:06 her dad with a knife in his chest. Her dad is dead. Motherfucker. Whoa. El Papa Amuerto. And then and then and then Dan is like in the woods with
Starting point is 01:01:23 nobody. Everyone's dead. His friend is dead. Billy's dead. He can't hear Abra anymore. He goes to her house, sees her dead dad and goes back to his house. He's doing like a very focused meditation thing. His eyes roll up in his head. He's mustering all he can.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And he finds her in the back of the van first we see her in the van i guess with crow daddy yeah and he's like i've injected you with you with enough tranquilizer whatever it is to like you don't have any shine right now right and so she's like trying to do stuff and he's like you can't it's not gonna work she's like little girl drunk kind of just like yeah yeah lolling around the back seat and then dan astral projects into the car with her and they have a little conversation and he's like i'm gonna take care of this i guess he inhabits her body he inhabits her body her eyes become blue That's how you know. Totally. And she like gets up as Dan and he's like, she's like, fuck, I feel hungover. And Crow Daddy's like looking in the rear view mirror being like, what? She's like, I haven't had a hangover in like.
Starting point is 01:02:39 25 years. Like however many years it's been. He's like, wait. Wait, this is suspicious. He's like, who are you? Cool, Dan. My gosh. You have one thing going for you.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Literally say nothing. Well, I think it's all part of Danny's big plan. Yeah. Dan's got a good plan here. This is one of my favorite parts of the film, actually. Okay. Tell it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Tell it, Dom. Okay, well, so they're having a little conversation. It's like Dan inside of Abra and the guy. And he's like, you people that think you're going to live forever. And he looks down at his seatbelt. He's like. The arrogance. The arrogance.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And then somehow he makes the car drive off the road, slam into a tree. And Crowdad goes right through the windshield because he didn't have a seatbelt on because he thought he was going to live forever. Oh, wow. Another beautiful social commentary. Wear your seatbelt, kids. That's the moral of the whole didn't have a seatbelt on because he thought he's gonna live forever. Oh, wow. Another beautiful social commentary. Wear your seatbelt, kids. Wear your seatbelt, kids. For sure. So Abra's totally fine.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Danny got thrown out during the astral projection, but he's okay. And Crow daddy's dead? Crow dad's dead. And Rose the hat is flipping out. She is pissed. Yeah, because Crow dad was her man. Did she see him die? She felt it. She's watching it. She's feeling it. Yeah, because Crowdad was her man. Did she see him die? She felt it.
Starting point is 01:03:46 She's watching it. She's feeling it. Yeah. And he had a bad death. So it's just Rose left out of the group? His face was all like mangled and his skin is off his head. Yeah. It was tough.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Skin is off his head? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Gross. He went right through the windshield, tore him up. Yeah, I guess so. I didn't notice the skin off the head. That sounds nasty.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Is that the end of the movie? Close. We're getting closer. We're getting close. Four fifths. So then Abra and Danny meet up again, right? They have to. And they're like Dan's like, I got a plan. I know a place
Starting point is 01:04:20 that's dangerous for people like us. So hopefully dangerous for people like her. Okay hopefully dangerous for people like her. Okay. That's the logic there. Go to a place that will make us more weak. Yes. In hopes that it will also make her more weak.
Starting point is 01:04:35 We don't know what she is really, but fingers crossed. So Abra and Dan drive up to the Overlook Hotel. Really quickly in like a little Toyota Tercel. Yeah, what a little cross-country adventure they're having. Yeah, cross-country. And it's like snowstorm. Yes, they're in- Real bad snow.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah, they're in like a sedan. It's like a tiny little, yeah, like a little Corolla or something. And they make it up in a big snowstorm that in The Shining we were very clearly told could not make it up there. Like they needed a snowcat. Yep. Anyways, they make it. 30 years later, roads have improved. Here we go could not make it up there. Like they needed a snow cap. Yep. Anyways. 30 years later roads have improved. They make it up. Good point. Actually
Starting point is 01:05:12 Emily that might be true. Maybe the roads have improved. Maybe the roads have improved. Or the cars have improved. Or both. So Dan is like you stay in the car and tell me when she's coming. And she's like well why are you going in there? And he says, I got to wake it up. Yeah, he's got to wake it up.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Overlook is all boarded up. Looks like he's got a thousand eyes. He walks in. And as he walks in, all the lights start turning on as he walks by them. Pretty cool. Somebody paid the bills. The ghosts are paying the bills. Ghosts are paying the bills.
Starting point is 01:05:45 And he goes into the boiler room and turns on everything. Yeah. Yeah. Goes into each of the rooms. We get like all the callbacks to The Shining. He goes into the bar and all the lights turn on in there. Goes into the room where his dad axed the door. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:04 We see like the hole where like his dad peeks through. Sticks his head in it. We get that famous, here's Johnny shop and now with Ewan McGregor. See the window where they escaped at him. And then when they go to the bar, that's when we meet Lloyd. No? Yeah. Who's another one of the actors who's portraying a character played by an actor in The Shining,
Starting point is 01:06:24 the movie. So it's an actor that looks like Jack Nicholson. Young Jack Nicholson. And he's now playing the part of the bartender whom in The Shining, Jack Nicholson was like drinking from. Now he's the caretaker. And he keeps trying to get Danny to have a drink.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And Danny keeps being like, Dad, come on. And he's like, I'm not Dad. I'm Lloyd. In the hotel. Quit pissing come on. And he's like, I'm not Dad. I'm Lloyd. In the hotel. Quit pissing me off. And then he starts drinking. And sort of like feel the dreams gone awry.
Starting point is 01:06:54 He's like, I don't want to play catch with you. I don't want to kill you. I'm not your son. And then Lloyd like smashes the drink or whatever, right? Yeah, he like throws a little tantrum. Everything all over the place. Yeah. And then he disappears. Yeah. I like that part a lot. It meant nothing but I liked it a lot. Okay, guys. We're close. We're close.
Starting point is 01:07:15 We're close. How close though? Do we have to finish this tomorrow? No, it has to happen now. It has to happen now. No, we're close. We're close. So then we're in the hotel. We see the boxes in Danny's head rattle a little bit. Rattling. Those ghosts are trying to get out.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh, we're home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're feeling the Overlook Hotel's presence. Meanwhile, what's her name? Abra in the car. It's like, she's coming. She sees Rose's headlights. She's like, oh, she's coming. So then she goes into the hotel. And then Rose comes into the hotel and then Rose comes into the hotel and Abra and Danny are together
Starting point is 01:07:49 and then they're in the writing room and Rose gets to the table, sees Danny and then something happens to Rose where all of a sudden she's in the maze and she's chasing Abra. And then Abra is standing in front of her with the little like gross knife that Rose used on Jacob Tremblay. Right. And without moving.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Comes up from behind her. Comes up from behind her and slices the back of her knee. Ow! Does it several times. Does it many times. And Rose is getting very annoyed and she also says something like oh you've made made some improvements in your mind since last time i was in here then rose confused confused and all of a sudden somehow she gets it she stops she reaches her
Starting point is 01:08:37 hand out grabs abra and stops her from doing the thing but is she like backing up to a box yes right so then the boxes are like yeah coming up behind her and then she's like and one starts Stops her from doing the thing. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But is she like backing up to a box? Yes. Right. So then the boxes are like, yeah, coming up behind her. And then she's like. And one starts to open. Uh-huh. And she's like, wait a second.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I'm not in your mind. I'm in Danny's mind. I'm in Dan's mind. I'm in somebody else's thing. And then boom, they're popped out. She doesn't get in the box. It's not the end of the movie yet. We're back in the writing room.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And all of the ghosts come with? I think Danny lets them go. Oh, man. Because Rose somehow then gets the upper hand. Danny has the axe. They're on the stairs backing up. He keeps telling Abra to run. Abra doesn't
Starting point is 01:09:18 go anywhere. And then I think Danny lets all of the monsters in his head go. So that they will tear Rose apart. Yes. Which they do. They do. And there's one of them that reaches like in through her face, like under her skin.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Yeah. And they're like ripping her face off. That was kind of a cool thing. Yeah. It's just like in there. You can see the hand. It's like very nasty. And yeah, they.
Starting point is 01:09:44 This is like in real life. Yes. Yeah, this is real. Okay. This is real. This is real. This is real. And then she steams out.
Starting point is 01:09:52 She steams out? She steams out. Kind of like charring out for the listeners. But then they turn on Dan. Because he's there. Because they're just... They're not on his side. They're like, hello, Danny.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Come play with us forever again. Forever and ever. Forever and ever. And Abra, he's like, you really need to go. And so she runs. And they. Attack him. Attack him.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Somehow he got poked in his artery. Oh, right. She stabbed him. Rose stabbed him before. Oh, we skipped that. Shit. So before Rose steams out, she does stab Danny in his femoral
Starting point is 01:10:30 artery. His femoral artery. You know that one in the leg? Yeah, the big one in the leg. Right. An important one. Yeah, and she starts putting her finger in it. Putting her finger in it. Ew, ew, ew. Rose dies? Steam's coming out of his mouth. She starts steaming Danny like that. Yeah, because the more pain that they're in, the better the steam is.
Starting point is 01:10:46 This is before Rose dies? Oh, this was so good. And then she was like, Danny, your steam smells like whiskey. I love it. Oh. It's so dirty. Give me more steam. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:11:00 But then he's like, okay, boom. Animals, they're the monsters come. Get her. Ghosts get her. Thank you. And then they come after Danny. And then how does like, okay, boom. Animals, they're the monsters come get her, ghosts get her. Thank you. And then they come after Danny. And then how does Danny get out of it? Well, we don't see.
Starting point is 01:11:11 So then Abra runs away and we see Abra in like another room of the hotel. And then Dan comes in looking all like creepy and possessed, carrying an axe. And he's now going after Abra. The cycle repeats. Abra's like trying to talk to the Dan inside the ghost body
Starting point is 01:11:36 and being like you're stronger than them. One of those very typical moments. Maybe kind of like how Dan was trying to talk to his dad. You know? Maybe. Could be. There should have maybe been more of a parallel there. A conjuring moment. you know typical moments maybe kind of like how dan was trying to talk to his dad you know maybe could be there should have maybe been a more of a parallel there conjuring moment yeah yeah yeah remember yourself remember who you are yeah there's no place like home there's no place and then he like comes to for a second i think and he's like you got to get out of here but then he
Starting point is 01:12:02 goes back i can't get like i need to to stay to die here. But then he goes back. Because I can't get, like, I need to stay, to die here. Is that before he tries to axe her? Uh-huh. Okay. And then. Then he tries to axe her. Then he tries to axe her. So he lifts up the axe and, like, brings it down on her head and stops.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Uh-huh. Like an inch in front of her forehead. Like she's fighting. Real hard. The ghosts inside. Totally. It's like demons. And she runs away.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Dan. Bad Dan. Bad Dan. But with good Dan inside, goes down to the boiler room again to like really turn up the dials or maybe just to like make sure that it's. Not going to blow up. Oh. So he's battling with himself to be like, turn it on, turn it off.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yep. And then. He stands there. He doesn't let himself move. He doesn't let himself do it. Oh. So he's battling with himself to be like turn it on, turn it off. Yep. And then. He stands there and he doesn't let himself move. He doesn't let himself do it. Right. And the stuff starts going everywhere. He kneels down. Starts catching on fire. He smiles. He sees his mom. That's right. He has a nice little moment with the Shelley Duvall
Starting point is 01:13:00 lookalike. Yeah. And they're sitting there holding each other and then it the whole place blows up it was touching i thought it was sweet i think i yeah i think this is when i cried i think so yeah and um so he dies he dies he dies and then she's home yes her mom is still alive her mom was out of town for all of this she's home talking to to Danny. Yeah. In the room. So Dan's now her Dick Halloran. Got it. Got it. I can't remember what he says.
Starting point is 01:13:30 But he's like, good job. Oh, he says he says, he says, shine on. You crazy diamond. Shine on. People in the theater laughed, right? Lots. It was very stupid. Shine on. Shine on, Abra. Shine on. He said it and then people behind me were like, shine on, man. Yeah, Shine on. Shine on, Abra. Shine on. He said it and then people behind me
Starting point is 01:13:45 were like, shine on, man. Yeah, shine on. This movie sounded bad. It's not done yet. Not done. Oh my god. Because then Abra's like, and Rose said that there were more of them out there. Do you think there's more? And Dan's like, it doesn't
Starting point is 01:14:01 matter. You gotta live your life. There might be. But you can take them. I don't know there could be a sequel we're not really gonna we're not committing until we see how the opening weekend does but maybe maybe not I don't know who knows but then in her bathroom in her house
Starting point is 01:14:18 um the old lady is in the bathtub with the pulling the shower curtain back and looking creepy and hungry because now she's kind of connected to the hotel as well. She has been there. And the mom comes up and is like, Abra, time for dinner. And then she's like, Abra, I'm really sad about your dad.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And Abra's like, Mom, she's not going to say anything. And then she's like, Mom, I want you to know I have this superpower. It's real. And dad's okay. Dad's okay. Yeah. That is a sweet, sweet little moment. Actually, I think that's when I cried.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Because then the mom's like, really? Like, thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. Because at first she was not into Abra having these superpowers. She's like, what's the deal with the spoons? This is freaking me out. Now she's like, well, you can talk to dad.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Cool. That's nice. Thank you. And then she's like, dinner's you can talk to dad. Cool. That's nice. Thank you. And then she's like, dinner's ready. And Abra's like, just a second. Got to take care of this old lady in the bathtub. Right. Goes in, mirroring the earlier scene, closes the door, closing herself on the old woman
Starting point is 01:15:18 in the bathroom. And that's the end of the movie. Fien. Fien. Fien. Okay. It's still bad. I mean, not that. Finally. That lastien. Fien. Fien. Okay. It's still bad. It's still bad.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Not that. Finale. That last scene. Finale. That is so interesting. It was well-reviewed, guys. 75% on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, but that's Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:15:35 That was Rotten Tomatoes. Look at Metacritic. That's much lower. Oh, is it? It sounds really cheesy. It is. Hmm. Also, I just don't even know where I stand on Ewan McGregor.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Well, I don't like Ewan McGregor. I will say I thought he was good in this. I think he's a really good actor, but I think he does the stupidest shit. Yeah, you mean his role choices? They're getting worse. I don't know. Yeah. I'm going to guess you guys will not see it.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Not for scary reasons. I just sounds... It doesn't sound that intriguing to me. It doesn't really do anything for me. Yeah. I will say... Well, this was a waste. I will say I enjoyed it while I was watching it.
Starting point is 01:16:23 And then the more I thought about it, I was like, oh, everything was stupid. Should they make a third one? No. I bet after I bet they were leaving it open. But after the box office performance, I bet they won't. Well, hey, Dom, thanks for doing this. So sorry you hated the movie. And so did all of us.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I couldn't make it more enjoyable. Hopefully the retelling of it. The retelling of it. Lovely. The retelling of it. And the retelling of it. Couldn't I know. I'm sorry I couldn't make it more enjoyable. Hopefully the retelling of it was more enjoyable. The retelling of it couldn't have been more perfect. The retelling of it won't be two hours and 36 minutes long.
Starting point is 01:16:52 It was a lot. I almost purposefully just like meted out every single inane detail just to like get the point across. This is what we had to sit through in order to make this conversation happen. Thanks for having me, by the way. Thank you so much for coming
Starting point is 01:17:07 on our podcast. I'm really honored to be here. You're welcome back anytime. Someday we'll bring you back for a movie you like. A movie that you choose. I would love that. Let's do that. Yeah, can we do that? Yes, of course. That'd be great. Thanks so much, Dom. Thanks for having me.
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