Too Scary; Didn't Watch - DON'T WORRY DARLING

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

Harry Styles cooking, Olivia Wilde drinking and Florence Pugh carrying an entire movie, we're recapping DON'T WORRY DARLING!! Do we feel better after talking about this movie for two hours? We do not! Do we feel better after digging into the black-hole of nothingness that is all the drama around this film? NOPE! NOT AT ALL! Yet here we are, friends. We love you, we did this for the 69% (nice) of you who voted yes in our instagram poll <3  (and also, honestly, we did it for ourselves).  TRAILER Recap starts @ 40:00 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Get Surfshark VPN at https://surfshark.deals/TOOSCARY - Enter promo code TOOSCARY for their special Black Friday deal: 85% off and 3 extra months free! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, so I watch them so that you don't have to. And this week's movie is technically a horror movie. Look at the IMDb page. It is. Check it. Check it. It is. It is a horror movie. Look at the IMDb page. It is. Check it.

Check it. It is. It is a horror movie. We did ask you guys if you wanted to recap it. Some of you said no. But most of you said yes. One person,

most of you said yes and one person in particular and he knows who he is told us it's beneath us to do it. Beneath us were the words and I just learned not to say to told us it's beneath us to do it beneath us were the words and i just learned not to say to this friend nothing's beneath us oh you don't know how low we can go um okay yes we're recapping don't worry darling we'll get into it we'll get into it we're sorry

also you're welcome also look this is the main way the three of us get to really talk about things. And we just we needed it. We needed this. Yeah, this is one for us. This is one for us. And the podcast is the podcast is for you, but it's also for us. And this one, we had to do it. But wow, before we get into that, did anything scary happen to us?

Well, before we get into that, we have some haunted housekeeping. We have haunted housekeeping. How dare i skip the haunted housekeeping uh we have a virtual live show coming up on december 3rd at 6 p.m uh pacific 9 p.m eastern oh that was like yes correct you made it through We will be recapping The menu A new release that's gotten Pretty good reviews so far I'm pretty excited

Pretty excited about it It's going to be a very good time Henley will be in Los Angeles We will all be sitting In the same room Recapping Having some cocktails Having a little holiday party the three of us and it's and we can't wait to share with you and we want you to join us and if you get a

ticket you're going to be able to watch that live show video for a whole week so if you're not available at that time you can't join us live live you can still watch the video If you get a little ticket And where are those tickets? You can get those tickets at moment.co Slash TSDW podcast, is that right? Nope, just moment.co Slash TSDW

The link is also on our Instagram page, I realized I haven't Tweeted about it, is Twitter gone? Is it dead? Great question, great question I'll tweet about it before it goes away Not that I haven't tweeted about it. Is Twitter gone? Is it dead? Great question. I'll tweet about it before it goes away. Not that I don't normally think Twitter's our spot, but I'll tweet the link. Check it before

it goes away. I'm just really, really very excited. It's like I it's my little holiday party with my friends. I'm so excited you guys. I can't wait to be with you in person. Are we going to be at Sammy's apartment? Is that where we're going? I think we're going to be at Sammy's apartment.

She's got the best in her. Oh my god. They're going to be two cats hiding from us. Terrified. Confused. You won't catch a peek. You will never see them, but you might be able to feel that they're there. But you won't see them once again. So if you're coming for cats well

that's just not what that night's gonna be about it's gonna be fun and i can't wait what else what else is going on with us this week do anything scary happen you guys well i'll say it's a little bit on that on the note of the show which is that and you guys sort of know this this week. I, I got myself into a real panic about Christmas and Christmas. Oh, yeah. Same, same. I started. OK, so it's like nice to get your ducks in a row before the holidays. Start your Christmas shopping, get those things planned.

Like, it's nice to start around now because you're like, OK, I've got time. I'll think about it. I'll I'll, you know, find the good things, do some research. I'll get ahead of it. Won't be stressed. I shopped this week like it was the day before Christmas. I started I like started thinking about Christmas gifts and then got myself into such a panic about needing to get every single gift for everyone this week.

So much that I was like thinking it was Christmas. Like, I don't know what happened to me. It wasn't until Sammy used it because I had mentioned I was like thinking it was Christmas. Like, I don't know what happened to me. It wasn't until Sammy, you said, cause I had mentioned, I was like, Oh wow, we could like exchange our Christmas gifts at the live show. And you said, I might not have my gifts in time. And it wasn't until you said that, that I was like, right. Because that's on December 3rd, today's November 17th. I felt like I was like came out of a fugue state where I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Like he just, I, I, I don't know how to explain it and I don't know why it happened. I mean,

I think I just like advantage of some sales or there's some sales happening. Sometimes I feel like online shopping can, can open a Pandora's box for me where it's like, I can't go back. It was like one thing led to another ledge. It's like, I think, I think it started because I like, something occurred to me of like, Oh, that would be a good gift for this person. Like I'm thinking about it. Oh,

I will get it. And then it was like, Oh my God, well, I have to get this person. Well, I have to get this person. Definitely.

If I get this person would. And I just like it, it like built and built and built on itself until I, I had ordered like 12 fucking Christmas gifts. And, and a lot of them I'm shipping to my sisters because I'm going there for Christmas. And I, and I just, after I had that realization, it occurred to me that I'm like, that's so

rude. I'm just like shipping a bunch of boxes to her house to stay there for over a month. Like what the fuck am I doing? I really couldn't tell you. It was really weird. I mean, and I guess it's nice to have some gifts out of the way but i i don't like the way that it happened i just want to say i don't like the way that i've been in a weird headspace too lately i feel like maybe there's something in the air something in the

stars perhaps of just every time i feel weird i text you sammy and i say something going on astrologically like it's never me it's never me it could never be me i've like stopped paying attention to astrology which is um sad for me i'll get back into it eventually but i've been so busy with work there's probably a reason in the planets why you're not paying attention i think that's right it's not you i think that's exactly true i've been doing a lot of online shopping as well and i really do feel like there's a thing where it's like once you pop you just can't stop yeah like once you just start i was saying i felt like i felt like a rat in an experiment that's like pressing the button that's injecting a little bit of heroin into it until it dies of thirst you're like oh that felt

nice yeah like it's like that felt nice it's like give it to me again overall i feel very bad but it's just these like little moments of pressing that purchase button. That's like, Ooh, yeah, that's a good hit. And it's like, Ooh, but that stopping feels bad. Stopping feels bad. So this is actually, this is literally exactly what I wanted to talk about this week because my scary thing is that I fucking like keep forgetting to return the shit that I need to return. And then it passes the 30 day mark. And I'm stuck with this bullshit that I've purchased stupidly, impulsively online. That's what they're counting on baby. That's what they're counting on. I know. Like I have this, I bought two pairs of pants from Everlane, both the same size. One size fits me perfectly. The other size doesn't fit at all. Weird. I hate that. It doesn't fit at all. So I've had them in a little box, like ready to

be shipped out, like have the return label, everything truly just kept being like, Oh, I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do it tomorrow. Yep. Yep. It's past the time now. These pants are never going to fit me. I still have them. What am I going to do with them? If anyone wants to buy a pair of pants, full price. a pair of pants full price we open an online store for all the things we couldn't return go through even more trouble just to get them out of our homes i also keep buying stuff that i like think that i'm gonna wear but it's slightly uncomfortable and i'm in this point in time in my life like coming out of the pandemic where i'm so used to like soft pants, no bras, like loose fitting clothes, like everything, just feeling like pajamas every day of my life, even like shoes. And so I bought a pair of loafers

because I was like, these are cute. I'm going to wear loafers to work. You know, I'm going to be like a working lady with my goddamn loafers on. No, no, I haven't worn them once outside of the apartment. I, every morning blister, big blister fest. Every morning when I'm making the decision whether to wear my Dansko clogs or those new loafers, I'm like, I'm going to go with the loafer or go with the clogs. I'm not trying to impress anyone. I love those clogs on you, though. I do. Thanks.

They work with everything. Thanks. I wear them a lot because they're really comfortable. Yeah. I don't know what happened. There was a time where I was better at. well, I know what happened. It was COVID. There was a time where I was better at like going to stores to, to get what I need to minimize my amount of online shopping. Cause it's like not great. It's not great, but it, but it, yeah,

going to stores feels impossible. Yeah. I'm now trained to be like, well, I can get literally everything online. It's a really tough habit to break. Here's what I've learned though. Here's what I've learned. At least for me, I have to fucking go to stores. I have to try it on. The shit I'm buying online, I just am keeping because I'm like too lazy to return it and it's fine. But like, it doesn't look great necessarily. Like I'm really settling. I'm settling on purchases yeah and i need to be in the store putting the clothes on my body like whether that's how i know whether it actually looks good or not okay that can be like a pre-new year's resolution for us oh i like that i like that

store shopping because i think we could all benefit i'm also really trying to get better and i'm not always good at it but when it comes to shopping i try really hard to get better at it. And I'm not always good at it. But when it comes to shopping, I try really hard to, my bar needs to be, do I love it? Not do I like it? Not even does it look good on me? Do I love it? Because it's like, so often I'll put something on and be like, oh, well, it fits. Yeah, it's fine. I could wear it.

Look, oh, I wonder if I wore this. And it's like, no, no, no. If you leave, will you be like, damn it, I missed that thing I didn't get. Yeah, I've gotten too used to, I've noticed this so much lately much lately too used to being like the second i think of anything that i want i'm like well i'll buy it right now i'll buy it right now and it's like i don't that is also a thing about online shopping is like well i'll search every website i'll find i was doing that the other day with um over the knee like crazy boots which you do have yeah i love and i see because i just bought them somewhere and i was like I need them I need them I need them I

need them and I searched for hours and then I like again I felt like I was coming out of a fugue state where I was just like what yes what are you doing brains it's not good it's not good I do that too and then I don't even remember what I discovered I'll spend hours researching like a coat to buy and I go down such a rabbit hole. And then I'm like, what websites did I even look at? What was I even looking at? And you guys know, cause yesterday I texted you that I really scared myself because I ordered a candle holder and it arrived and I was so excited. And then a couple of days later, the exact same candle holder arrived.

I had bought it twice from two different stores. And I just had no memory. I mean, they're very similar. They're slightly different, but like I, I, I had the same search. Yes. I had no memory of buying it the second time because I go into an actual, like my, I'm like not in control anymore. Something takes over the shopping demon. The demon, it's a demon. Did you go through your search history that I would you go through your order history? Cause I did. Yes. I did. Because

I was like, and you were like, yeah, I bought it twice, but yeah, it was like that level of not remember not having any conscious memory of it that I had to double check that they were both made from my account. Cause I was like like maybe someone shipped me as a gift this exact same thing that I ordered for myself coincidentally um another good example of of me not being able to control my purchases with this one I didn't actually do. So I guess it's, I can control them sometimes, but I came real close the other day. I read that being upside down is good for your relaxation. So I looked at buying a seven foot tall inversion table to set up in my one bedroom apartment. Tons of space for that. It's like $200. And i i like i really want it and so i re i put it in my cart i was checking out and i had the moment of being like okay what the fuck are you

doing this is like not i this is not right yeah this is not right my dad my dad has one of those sammy you can come over to my parents house anytime just we should all go in on one together and just sort of take turns really the issue is the sisterhood of the traveling inversion table yeah shipping it cross country for like a month so expensive more expensive than buying one for each coast but where do you put it that's the real issue with that thing like where do you keep it you know exactly that's why i didn't do it but yeah listeners if you have any tips on curbing mindless online spending

it's just awareness right like mindfulness it's just awareness and i will say like my my goal to shop second hand more often i still you can still shop second hand online very easily but it limits it limits it a little bit for me in terms of like i'll go on my favorite you know like vintage etsy shops and i'll scroll through for hours and be like oh that's could be cool that could be cool that'd be cool could be cool but it's like there's only one of the thing and sometimes the measurements aren't quite right so like it does like force me to not buy as much stuff sometimes because I'm like, okay, this wouldn't actually probably fit

or they usually don't offer returns at all. So I'm like, well, I better be sure. That's a good tip. That's good. I want to, yeah, the reason I don't buy stuff from like Etsy and venture sellers is because I don't know my measurements at all. And so if I knew them, I feel like I would be buying more. It's funny.

I take them every single time i try to buy something because i can never remember them and i don't know where i should write them down and so i just take them all the time a lot but i'll say too even like even knowing them sometimes the vintage stuff fits kind of weird and if i if i didn't know how to sew i would also not that's also that's a way that that's bad for me because i'll be like well it's okay you can just fit i'll like make it fit and then it's like right emily our in house tailor truly though i would love to be i would love to be the in-house can you take my measurements when i'm in la yeah bring me those pants bring those pants that don't fit and maybe we can oh yeah that's a good point they're too They're too big. So it's easier to make them fit.

Oh my God, we're going to make them fit. Oh my God, you guys. Wow, wow, wow, happy ending. Wow, should we do that for the live show? I'll tailor your pants on air. Oh my God, absolutely, really? A tailoring demonstration. The audience is loving this.

They're eating it up. That's what you're here for. That's what you're here for That's what you're here for I'm also just going to do a quick little announcement My second nephew was born this week A new human in the world He's already cute He's going to be cool

He's got great parents, great brother I'm excited to know him He's going to be a cool human Thank you A little nice thing for everybody Is that there was at least one cool human added to the population in the past week. So that's really exciting.

I'm so happy for you guys. I'm very, it's very exciting. And he has such a cute name. He's got a cute name. Rowan. Row-row. He's a little cutie. Little row.

Little row-row baby. Welcome, Rowan. Rosie boy. Welcome to the world. Welcome to the world. We'rey. Little Ro. Little Ro. Little Ro Ro baby. Welcome Rowan. Rosie boy. Welcome to the world. Um, welcome to the world. We're glad to have you. Um, and I'm so glad this is a world where this movie exists. I'm actually not.

Um, I, okay, let's just get into it. Let's get into it. So, okay. The movie, as we mentioned, sorry, sorry. The movie is Don't Worry Darling. Okay, the movie, as we mentioned, sorry, sorry. The movie is Don't Worry Darling. It was released September 23rd, 2022.

I was about to say 2002. Feels like it's been 20 years of this movie. Oh boy, it was directed by Olivia Wilde. Screenplay by Katie Silberman. Story by Carrie Van Dyke, Shane Van Dyke, and Katie Silberman. Starring Florence Pugh, Harry Styles, Olivia Wilde, Gemma Chan, Kiki Layne, Nick Kroll, and Chris Pine.

It's currently streaming on HBO Max. I've now seen it twice which is insane. And we have all seen it. We've all seen it and I wish I'd had time to re-watch it. I don't recommend a re-watch. I really don't. Although I did some new things, some new questions came up beyond the questions I had the first time. I wish I'd rewatched it. You guys, I'm

not going to lie. My expectations were so low for this film that I enjoyed every second. OK, I will say the first time I watched it, Sammy and I watched it in theaters together. We watched it, the two of us and Joel. Sammy and I had a great time. Time of our lives. I laughed. I loved it. I was having a blast. Joel was so upset. He was miserable. He fucking hated it. He couldn't get

over how much he hated it. Sammy and I were having the time of our lives. Upon a rewatch, I was having less fun yeah certainly diminishing returns i'm sure diminishing returns also like the amount of space this movie and everything about this movie has taken up in my brain over the course of the last yeah i mean this movie started filming january 2021 This cast was announced Summer of 2020

The casting change up Happened Fucking I guess January 2021 Like I have spent So many hours Thinking about This movie Which is scary

It's so Crazy I mean And that's the true horror. It's so crazy. I mean, if anybody in the known universe doesn't know the situation with this movie, should we do just like a brief? I guess we should. We do do a quick little recap. Yep. Of the drama around the film. God, where do we fucking start?

Which I didn't I didn't know until like recently. You guys had to tell me what it was. And were both like shocked i didn't know what was going on well i think what happened is that because recently it felt like it just kept growing and growing and growing and i feel like it was it's like a planet that was gaining mass and so it's like a magnet like drawing more and more attention like it just felt like it got bigger and bigger bigger lately but yeah let's take it let's take it back let's take it to the top let's take it back to the beginning okay so this movie's announced olivia wild coming hot off of book smart a movie i loved movie everybody loved it was great movie but did poorly at the box office and was kind of like a

disappointment uh financially i think so that's a bummer it's a great movie I loved it But so this is her second Second movie that she's directing Everybody was abuzz about it It's announced that Florence Pugh and Shia LaBeouf Will be playing the two leads Huge deal This was before Shia's

FK twigs situation Before his abuses became Public knowledge Known FK Twigs situation Yes before his Abuses became Known And I was very excited by that Casting I love Shia As an actor I love Florence as an actor Very exciting then they start filming They had to postpone because of

COVID obviously they start filming Shia either Quits or is fired that's part of the drama we can't get into all of it but he is replaced by Harry Styles Harry Styles starts doing the movie early in the filmmaking process he and Olivia Wilde

start dating she is undergoing a separation they're not not a divorce they were never married but a separation from longtime partner Jason Sudeikis they have children together wait I thought they were married were they not married they were never married, but a separation from longtime partner Jason Sudeikis. They have children together. Wait, I thought they were married. Were they not married? They were never married. What was that whole thing with getting served papers?

Custody for their children. Oh, custody. I see. Okay. Okay. God, yeah, that's part of it. Jesus Christ. There's so much about this movie.

Okay. So they start dating everyone. I remember when that news came out, I was through the moon, to the moon, through the roof, over the moon, over the moon. Over the moon. I went down. It took me a second to. Through the moon.

I was absolutely through the moon over this news that they were dating. She's like 10 years older than him. They're both so hot. I was like, fuck yes. Fuck yes. Don't like Sudeikis. Sorry. I think he's a bad man.

We will get into that And to be clear also I feel like someone At one point said like because we Don't like when older men date younger women And so I just want to clarify That it's not just that it's fine The other way it's that Everyone has to be over a certain age

Everyone has to be Over a certain age if everyone is I'd say Like over 27 28 I don't care has to be over a certain age if everyone is i'd say like over 27 28 i don't care what this is which harry is not or wasn't at the time well maybe isn't he i think he was like 26 or 27 so cuspy but like he's he's also lived a million lives let's be honest yeah he's a man also like i don't fully support that way that relationship started. I think it's an abuse of power. No, it seems the power dynamic. I think it is sketchy.

It's like, yes, they're very hot, but like, it's like not completely unproblematic in my opinion. No, no, none of this is unproblematic. It's really tough. But I will say, I think my thoughts on how I feel about Zadakis are very clear. Sorry. Ted Lasso, fucking whatever. Anyway. Sudeikis are very clear sorry uh Ted Lasso fucking whatever um uh anyway so uh then there there becomes some rumors start circulating about the attitudes on set it starts to become clear that Florence and Olivia have some conflict we don't know why there's a theory that uh Florence

and Harry were hooking up prior to this happening there's a theory That Olivia was absent from her Directorial duties because she was Off with Harry There's also just I think yeah the inappropriate Thing of like the boss Dating an employee also making Everybody it's like during the filming process That's tricky that's tough

There's a lot of things to it but that Set ended up being a very Summultuous environment. So whatever, whatever, that happens. Then months go by, press for this movie starts, and that's where my head falls off my body

because I, the drama, where do we even start? So Olivia gets served custody papers while doing a press event for Don't Worry Darling. And that was a big thing. When did the stuff about Shia come out? Again, Sudeikis, Batman.

When was the interview? The Shia, Shia, Shia tape happened. So during press for the movie, she gives an interview where she talks about firing Shia. Because he made Florence uncomfortable. He was combative energy on set. Look, Shia is trouble We know this to be true And I hope he's getting the help he needs to get

He is with our beloved Mia Goth And so we only want the best for all involved But she talks about how she fired him He comes out and says, actually, I quit Then videos are released or she sent a video to Shia from her car. And it's really weird. And she was like, it wasn't just that she said she fired him. I can't believe we're talking about that. It's the fact that she gave this interview where she was really sanctimonious about his behavior, acting like he was like,

really inappropriate. And like, she very much like gave herself a hero narrative. inappropriate and like she was like gave herself a hero narrative exactly exactly which you know maybe is true but we're all the heroes of our own stories you know but then the tape that he released of her was sending this pretty like look you can look it up shia shia shia she calls florence miss flow and miss flow's weird, talks about riding her horse Um It's weird, and so that, you know, that Perpetuates the drama a little bit more Then Florence doesn't do any press for the movie

Doesn't post about the movie It's a very conspicuous lack Of attention brought on this movie By her, the star So people start wondering what's up with that Do they hate each other, what happened, what happened Neither is helping to quell the situation At all

She's not good then it becomes so that Florence isn't going to Come to the Venice Film Festival for the premiere and then it's like Okay she is going to come she's not doing any press there So it's like what is this woman not talking about Why does she not want to talk about This movie like what's going on no Press is done between her and Harry the two leads of the movie They are never interviewed together no photos together Nothing nothing nothing it's like something's going on no press is done between her and harry the two leads of the movie they are never interviewed together no photos together nothing nothing nothing it's like

something's going on there we get to the medicine film festival i am glued to my computer i am refreshing twitter as if a major one of the craziest days i feel like i didn't we say it's like since the most since january 6th that i have like been glued to the news and I do say the news with how much an absolute maniac could not stop looking this goes it was the same feeling as the online shopping it was like pressing the button like heroin heroin heroin injected into my brain could not look away couldn't absolutely couldn't stop I'm following minute by minute accounts of what's happening on this red carpet of like when people are arriving, what's going on. You know, they start doing Venice Press.

It's because this is the moment that we're going to see Florence interact with everyone else. We haven't seen it. We haven't. Or is she? Exactly. We haven't seen it. We haven't seen it.

So we're just waiting. We haven't seen it. We haven't seen it. Is it going to happen? So they do. So we start. The first little bits start coming in. We start to get everyone is turned off the podcast by now

We start getting fast forward Fast forward We're gonna put in the time stamp of the recap for this movie It's gonna be like two hours and 12 minutes in the recap Um They do they start doing interviews This is when we get and okay I love Harry Styles let me just say

I love Florence Pugh I think she's an incredible actor Kind of a sassy little, sassy little somebody, but I still like it. Harry Styles, I am obsessed with. I think he is a perfect, sweet,

cutie, dummy, baby angel that I love that we should protect and preserve. But some press starts, he starts doing interviews and oh boy, was he not prepped for this? He, bless his heart,

gives the craziest Answers to questions about Oh I guess acting is fun And this is a real movie like you go to A real movie go to the theater scene On a big screen movie movie And it's like oh god honey what's happening with you What did you think it was going to be

Like you Are very famous somebody had to Have prepped you but I don't think anybody did Also he and Olivia are like not Going to any events together or not Talking to each other and it's like what the fuck is happening there They do a whole cast Panel at Venice the only person

Absent is Flo and the whole point was She wasn't going to be there yet and then she Posted a video of her walking around Venice With a fucking Aperol Spritz The internet is just, I'm just losing my mind. Then they do the screening and as

they walk into the screening, it appears that Harry Styles spits on Chris Pine. This is when I fully lost my mind. And everyone became demented. This is when I became a little goblin monster. How many times did you watch that clip?

I found it from multiple angles. I was searching. I found a slowed down version. Slowed down. Sending it to multiple people saying, what's your take on this? Do you see spit? What's your take? What do you think?

What do you think? Did he drop something? Did you see spit? Are they weird in the aftermath? What's going on here? Ultimately, I think either. was joke spit or no spit. Yeah, like a fake out spit. Like when you point a finger at someone's chest and then flick their nose.

He likes to spit. Yes, he does. He's known for spitting on stage a lot. So it's like, okay, you know what? We're not so crazy to associate spit with somebody who's never spat in his life. Didn't he say something about it the next night? He did make a joke. The next night he was fucking selling out a stadium and he said, I just popped over

to Venice to spit on Chris Pine. Incredible. Always the good sport about it all. We, I mean, I just. Like where is that? Where is that kind of wit when he was being asked about the goddamn movie you know he wasn't in his element he was not in his element back on stage environment i think he was like you know everybody is

so contentious they get on the oh my god the craziness of on the red carpet and in the screening the seating the seating arrangements okay Here we go Florence and Harry The two leads of this movie Like fully Olivia Harry dating Publicly for a couple years The seating charts And the photo order

They were always broken up by a person So it was like Olivia Uh Chris Pine Nick Kroll Harry Nick Kroll Florence like like i think nick kroll i think this has been the best experience of nick kroll it seemed like he was having a great time this whole movie experience it was a real exam personal examination of how we like absorb celebrity culture and like ultimately i you know some of the narratives about The drama of like Florence hating Harry hating Olivia what

Is like oh she Cheated on Jason with Harry And Florence's friends with Jason Because of Zach and This person Did this thing wrong whatever I'm like okay ultimately Lives Are complicated relationships are complicated

Because it seems like Maybe Florence cheated on Zach Braff with Harry So It seems like maybe Florence cheated on Zach Braff with Harry Again also

That's a relationship Florence was like 23 When she started dating Zach And he was much older And I don't like that There's just a lot of stuff And ultimately I feel like I don't really

People can make their own Fucking decisions With their romantic lives And it's always complicated And fucking whatever But Damn if it wasn't all fascinating and then to come around and see the movie and it is bad it is to finish it's been a journey yeah it really does feel like it's been 20 years doesn't it can you believe i mean again the time stamp of starting this recap is truly going to be like an hour into this episode because there's like there's so and the

other recap we'll fucking do it quick this movie yeah we're gonna blow through this i needed to like i i need to um like unburden myself of don't worry, darling. We need to talk it out. I feel like I need to like purge the toxins from my body of this movie. It made me feel, even though I enjoyed the experience of watching the movie, I felt really sad afterwards. And I felt like I really needed to talk through those feelings. I'm just feeling sad.

I just want to come out and say the idea for this recap and the force behind it really happening with Henley. Yeah, it was me. If you're upset about it, I'll tell you it was Henley. Because there's no way you could be upset with Henley. Come on, let's be real. She needed to talk about it. And so here we are. I really did.

I wanted to know everyone's take. And I also wanted to unburden myself from it. This is going to be a healing experience for all of us. Yeah. I was not as connected to the drama as you guys were. I think I will. Oh, dear God. I will take, I will also take the like, ugh, cliche, whatever. I'm still going to say it. And I kind of hate myself for even saying it, but I hope Olivia's kids are okay. You can say that. I think that's a fair way to say it. I hope Olivia's kids are okay you can say that I hope they're okay too

they're so little all the accounts I've heard they love Terry also I should say as of right now as of this recording they're rumored to have broken up so we're really sort of dancing on the grave of their relationship right now too I feel like I also again I love

him but I feel like I was told I was really braced For him to be Just the worst actor You've ever seen In this movie And I didn't He was fine

He doesn't He can't Rise Above the page But He did He did fine The script is

Fucking terrible My biggest problem With this movie Is the script I think it's awful It makes no Sense This also was really marketed As a feminist movie Which I'm like Fucking terrible my biggest problem with this movie Is the script I think it's awful It makes no sense This also is really marketed as a feminist

Movie which I'm like what Actual fuck It is fully not Wow we're really going to get into it yeah let's just do the recap And then we can do the deep dive Because we're going to keep talking about it I'm just going to say I got some trivia It has a 39% on Rotten Tomatoes

A 48% on Metacritic and a 6.2 on imdb how about that okay a little bit of trivia kiki lane replaced dakota johnson who dropped out after scheduling conflicts with her movie the lost daughter that was shooting at the same time and that really apparently that role was really cut out of the movie and like certainly it would have been a bigger role had it been dakota johnson right like i just she's such a name or maybe probably maybe they um maybe she dropped out because it was too small of a role or something yeah maybe or because no i heard i'm pretty sure kiki lane said like oh my entire part yes it was like my entire part was good like i'm gonna get to that yeah

they were very openly posting on Instagram how they were unhappy with the film yeah so here's here's one of my trivias Kiki Lane revealed on her Instagram account on September 24th 2022 the day after the movie released that the best thing about Don't Worry Darling is that she was lucky enough to meet her boyfriend Ariel Stachel

on set she also said that they both got cut for most of the movies. Both actors weren't part of the film's promotion and did not attend its world premiere at the Venice Film Festival. Wow. And that would have made... Which she at least should have. She's a big part of... I think she's still a decent part

of the movie, and it's certainly an important one. I know. It would have helped the story so much if they'd fleshed out that relationship a little bit more. Anyway, we'll get into it. Also, there was was no saving this movie it's the dumbest idea on the fucking face i don't know you guys i think it was pretty good i do not think there was any way to save this movie um well no actually i think they're okay olivia wilde cited inception and the truman show as influences on this film okay at the table read nick kroll asked chris pine florence pew harry styles and olivia wild for

proposal ideas back when they were all friends during filming kroll proposed to landscape artist lily kuang and styles was the first to know they do seem like besties they seem like besties i think again i think this all worked out fabulously for nick Kroll. I'm really happy for him at the end of the day. Also thrilled for Caperlant to have been present for this drama. And I'm dying to know. What's the budget on this? Budget and did it make money? You better believe I forgot to look it up.

But I'm going to look it up right now. I doubt it made money. Oh, my God. I typed D and my computer defaulted to don't worry, darling. This is how demented I am Um okay budget was 35 million And let's see if we've got

Some fucking I will say it looked Gorgeous um It says box office 86 million So okay This press probably really Contributed to this movie making money Um because we all simply Had it's like if there hadn't been any

Drama this movie would have come and gone and we all Would have said oh okay wasn't that good But it was fine But wow instead we Just It'll be one of the things I think about Most for the rest of my life For the rest of my life

Imagining like On our deathbeds. I'll be on my goddamn deathbed. Yeah. Thinking about don't worry darling. Emily like keeps bringing it up. We're like, Emily brought it up again. We're like at our 50th birthday party. She's talking about don't worry darling again.

What was the plane? Those would be my last words. Okay. Let's do it. Let's watch the trailer. All of you wives. We men, we ask a lot. We ask for strength.

Food at home, a house clean. And discretion above all else. And discretion above all else. Boys and their toys. At least we know they're getting work done. Welcome to the Victory Project. We're all here because we believe in the mission. What are we doing? Changing the world.

What are we doing? Changing the world. That's right. What do you think they're really doing out there? What do you mean? The one thing they ask of us is to stay here. Where it's safe.

Do you even know what the Victory Project actually is? Have you ever asked? Do you even know what the Victory Project actually is? Have you ever asked? Do you? Please. What's actually happening? Stop it, Alice. What if this place is dangerous?

What if... No. Jack. It's okay. I'm curious to hear where she's going with this. You need you to listen to me. You're lying about everything. We are not going backwards we're pushing forward

everyone is acting like i'm crazy and i'm not crazy our life together we could lose this I don't trust him. And I don't want to be here anymore. watching that trailer i'm just like what if the movie had been good you know it's a good trailer it makes it look interesting i love a original idea i really like god what if it had been good i think it is directed well i think think Olivia did a good job directing it. Like you said, this script is a real stinker. The script is a real stinker.

There's so many plot holes. It's insane. But for that reason, I want a Don't Worry Darling 2. I want a second one. And I want them to do it again. I want them to do it again. I want it so bad. I want it so bad.

And I want also watching that trailer made me realize, too, like I think a rewatch would have been very painful. I think it would have been painful now that I'm seeing it again. That trailer, though, if the movie were that trailer, love it. It's more like knowing how it ends. Like, yeah, that's what makes it painful. But also, like, I brought up so many questions. I just have so many questions i just have so many questions there are so many questions about yes a second watch i i kept pausing and going out into

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it's it's uh florence and harry there she's alice harry is jack we have olivia wilde and her husband nick kroll i don't know what his name is we're gonna call him nick kroll i don't even know if he appears in my notes to be completely honest um she's bunny olivia is bunny and it's kate berlant um and her husband husband Names I don't really remember But they're all dancing The women are bouncing Cocktail glasses on their heads They're drinking

You know Kate Berlant is pregnant And they're like Have another cocktail Like we're just like Living in the 60s It's gorgeous We're having fun

We're You know It's lovely Idyllic We have a little Oh here he appears In my notes This one time

Which is where Harry and Nick Kroll kiss. That's right. At this party. And that makes the kiss that happened at which we didn't even get into at Venice Film Festival make more sense because it's like,

oh, okay, they were doing the thing for the movie. Anyway, whatever. It's very clear that Alice and Jack are very into each other. They're like making out. They're stealing little moments for each other at this party.

They go and drive around outside very recklessly. We know they're drunk. They're like driving in. They're stealing little moments for each other at this party. They go and drive around outside very recklessly. We know they're drunk. They're like driving in circles in the desert, making out while they're driving. Life is good. And she apparently doesn't know how to drive, right? This is like a thing. She's a woman in the 60s. He's teaching her how to drive.

Yeah, but it's like, yeah, they live in this. We'll get there. Yeah. So he's like teaching her how to drive. But they're, you know know partying The next morning She's making him breakfast And they're talking about Frank's party That they're gonna be going to

They work for The men all work for Frank who's this character We haven't met yet She mentions like Oh I need to make Tuna salad for Frank's party tonight And he's like oh no Frank doesn't like tuna need to make tuna salad for frank's party tonight and he's like oh no frank doesn't like tuna like don't don't make tuna salad for frank's party it's a whole it's

we're all very excited about like going to frank's house it's gonna be trying to impress him too trying to impress frank and she asks she makes like a joke about like what is it that you guys do and he's like oh i can't tell you haha goes off to work leaves work for the day um all that we see then all they live in like a cul-de-sac so she comes out to wish him goodbye kiss him at his car all the wives have come out to do the exact same thing at the same moment all the men pull out drive their cars away down the street and all the women share a little like aha there's our men and we're all friends with each other whatever um and we see from up ahead the cars all all the men's cars driving just down like a wide expansive desert not even a road just like sand men's cars driving just down like a wide expanse of desert, not even a road, just like sand.

They're all driving towards this like little desert mountain. We hear a over like a speaker, like all employees reporting to headquarters for duty, everything, you know, on schedule. So some sort of I don't know. We're getting a sense of like a very specific Rhythm happening here Oh one Quick thing a huge question mark is While she's making him breakfast the house

Starts shaking like a little earthquake and she Like they like pick up a cup and wait for it to pass And she's like what are you guys doing there that like makes these little earthquakes Haha I can't tell you what the fuck are The earthquakes I mean yeah we can't We'll just to it. We've got to keep going. Sorry.

We've got to just keep going. Keep going. That day, Alice goes about her routine, which is she cleans the house. She takes the tram into town. She goes to dance class. All the wives do all these same things. At dance class, they're all introduced to a new wife.

Her husband just started working for the Victory Project, which is the project they all work for. And so we've got a new wife here joining our dance class jemma chan whose character name i do not remember shelly no clue jemma chan is what i'm going to call her she's frank's wife and she's leading the dance class and she's like very intimidating i think she's one of the most beautiful women in the world so absolutely insane yeah i would be very intimidated as well and she says as they're dancing there is beauty in control there is grace in symmetry we move as one after dance class on the front lawns uh alice and bunny are talking and they're gossiping a little bit about how like margaret wasn't in dance class that day and oh the doctor came to come visit her

so something's up with margaret um alice is then doing laundry on her little clothes line hanging up clothes humming a song to herself and she sees margaret because again they're like all in a little cul-de-sac she's margaret and margaret's lawn standing dead still holding a little toy plane and it like catches her attention that's kind of weird uh but that she so sort of flags it that night alice is or alice is preparing dinner that night back at home and she has a carton of eggs open and she starts she picks up an egg like she's gonna cook something with it and it's feeling strange to her and she crushes it And there's no egg inside it's just a shell She does that over and over and over

Again every single egg in the carton just A shell she's weirded Out by that but that you know Cut to that night Jack gets home from work Alice greets Him at the door with a cocktail she's wearing a beautiful Dress she's all dressed up for him They immediately start taking

Each other's clothes off and uh have sex right there on the table um he goes down on her and it's a huge deal apparently um for the press of this movie that that happened yeah people love to talk about it people love to talk about it um but it is that is a i feel an important point in terms of why this movie is not feminist, actually. So anyway, the next day at the victory pool, all the wives are sitting and talking. A topless woman walks by and the new wife like looks at it and is sort of like, oh, my gosh, there's so much skin here. It's like a little bit scandalous. But Bunny and Alice are we we we learned that um alice and jack don't want children bunny is like oh no they just only have time for each other and you should i live i live

next door you should hear it they just are at each other all the time um so they're very very into each other they love to fuck they don't want kids um and bunny asks alice like what is that song you keep humming it's driving me crazy and she's like i don't know i can't remember i just keep humming it then we go to the party at frank's house um this is a historic home in palm springs the name of which i don't recall but this is apparently the first time that any movie filming happened like inside the house it's rare to see the interiors of this house i guess and it is absolutely gorgeous. But so we're at this party. It's a big, impressive house. The women are chatting.

We learn that Violet, the new wife, and Alice, they honeymooned in the same place. She's like, where'd you guys honeymoon? She says someplace. She's like, oh, me too. Isn't that such a lovely spot? Then Gemma Chan is like, ting, ting, ting. Gives a speech.

Introduces her husband, Frank. This is Chris Pine. This is the first we've seen him. He looks fabulous. What a beautiful man. Um, and, uh, so Gemma's Gemma is giving the speech and being like, thank you for coming to our homes. We're so glad you're here.

We're so glad you have come and are a part of this life that we are building. And they're part of Frank's vision. He's such an extraordinary visionary. And we're so lucky to be in his presence. And from the back of the crowd, which is all the Victory employees and their wives, Margaret, who's Kiki Lane, says, why are we here? What are she says? Yeah.

Why? Sorry. God damn it. Oh, why are we here what are she says yeah why oh sorry god damn it oh why are we here we shouldn't be here and everyone is rattled by this and her husband like pulls her away and and everyone is like looking at Frank and sort of like what's going on it's clearly like this is not typical for anybody else to speak up and and so he steps in and goes no no this is it's important like it's good that she asked this question you know why are we here what are we doing and we learn a little bit that that he's like he asks he says what is the enemy of progress chaos and talks about how like control is so important they're they're working on a vision of the world that is ideal and better

for everyone and it goes this whole speech about how the like the wives are so important they really support their husbands and the things that they're doing there they clearly all really believe in we don't really know we don't have really been told what they think it is but he does ask them like what are we doing and they say changing the world and they all like everyone is obsessed with frank we're changing the world we love this life we are living um after that speech alice turns around and jack isn't there so she goes around looking for him wandering around the house and she sees margaret and her husband um in a room margaret is like staring off into space and she catches alice's eye and and uh her husband is like oh don't worry. She's fine. And she goes, nothing is fine.

I don't sleep. I have bad dreams. She's clearly like something is up with her and her husband shuts the door and so Alice is a little bit thrown by this. She finds Jack

trying on Frank's clothes. I don't know why he's doing that. Oh, I was confused about this. He was trying on Frank's clothes? That's what was happening? He was trying on Frank's clothes, yeah. Okay. He goes like,

he's tying a tie and he goes like, I why he chose this tie he's literally like feeling really insecure about himself and is like am i doing everything wrong because frank made a different choice like everything is all about frank at least that's what i gathered from my second viewing um but they he starts trying to have sex with her right there in that room and she's like and there's a lot of people here like anybody could see us, but quickly gets swept up in it. And they start having sex. And she sees out of the corner of her eye, Frank in the room, seeing them, noticing them. They make eye contact.

He does a little shush mouth face and and walks out. And she's sort of like, what just happened? But it's like, is it doesn't stop is it like sexy or bad scary or yeah it's like it's and it seems confusing for her as well um the next day the the all the wives are shopping together and they start gossiping about that about frank's party and and like how that was so crazy that margaret did that and bunny is clearly very upset and it's like she's lost her mind like it's it's she's gonna get her husband fired and alice seems to be the only but the only one who is at

all empathetic towards margaret and i was like she's going through a hard time and we learn that her child has died we learned that they bunny is like well they tell Us don't go out there but she did she went Out she walked out into the desert And she brought her kid with her And they found Her out there alone and they never found The kid and it's very like shame On margaret she got her son killed

She's crazy And bunny says Margaret says They took her son to punish her And they're all like What's going on with that And Caperlant's character she asks like

What are they doing out there you know do you ever Wonder and another little earthquake Happens And we learn from Bunny she's like We're not supposed to ask. Like, all they ask of us is discretion. And like, we're very lucky that they work here and they have our jobs and our lives.

And like, we're lucky to be in victory. And we're not supposed to ask what they're doing. And so I don't because I'm a good wife. At one that night, Alice is sleeping and she sees a weird vision of like synchronized black and white dancers uh that's that the next day she's cleaning the house going about her routine um she but she seems like a little more out of it than she was the day before she takes the tram into town but she doesn't get off she just like the guy asks her like oh I'm turning around and going back to town she's like yeah I just wanted to joyride i need to get out of the house

and as she's the only one left on the tram and she sees a plane overhead that looks like it then crashes into the mountains and she says to the driver oh my gosh did you see that she said that plane it just crashed we need to go drive out there we need to help them and he's like i don't i don't go that way like i have to stick to the road and she's like somebody could be like hurt we we need to go get them and he's like i'm not going there so she is it's like how what is wrong with you and she like gets off the tram and walks into the desert herself which i'm like the fuck is your plan we don't have cell phones in this world like what are you so far just like miles through the desert but she goes off Through the desert yeah through the heat it's really getting To her she is you know

It looks like it's been hours She makes her way to the desert past warning Signs that are like you know only security Personnel past this point makes her Way up the mountain that is the victory Headquarters because at this point she's like help Somebody there's a plane crash I need Help she wanders up and we

See at the top there's like this dome looking building with all sliding glass doors all the way around it that are the reflective kind so that you like can't really see in unless you're right up against it and she is curious about it she walks up she touches the glass and then she falls back almost like she gets like Knocked out like unconscious By doing that And We see again these images Of like synchronized Dancers

Nightmarish type things Yeah she hears Frank's voice like a muffled Frank's voice The song that she's been humming She's hearing it playing And she wakes up with a jolt She's in her the song that she's been humming, she's hearing it playing and she wakes up with a jolt. She's in her own bed and she hears noise outside her room. She she stumbles out.

She's very confused and disoriented and it and she's home in her bed. Jack is cooking her dinner. It's absolute chaos. He's a 60s man, doesn't know how to fucking do shit he's slamming raw potatoes with a bottle of alcohol because he's trying to make mashed potatoes which this is the thing that joel has fixated on the most from this entire movie it's just like what the fuck did he think he was saying that's how you how could anybody think that um but uh she comes out and she's like have i been sleeping the whole time was i home when you got here and she's really confused she's like Have I been sleeping the whole time? Was I home when you got here? And she's really confused

She's like I saw a plane crash And basically ends up feeling like Oh I guess I just had a really weird dream And so she's sort of like Okay I guess I dreamed all of that Super weird The next day

She's going about her routine Cleaning the house She's cleaning her sliding glass door And as she's cleaning it, like windexing it It starts slowly creeping in On her until it's She's getting physically smushed Between the glass and her wall

And starts like panicking and joking She's getting like smushed to death And then all of a sudden, oh, it wasn't really real The glass is back where it should be She's really freaked out, the phone rings she goes and answers it And it's Margaret and Margaret's like You went out there you saw it Um they're lying to us

Uh what does she say Um oh yeah They're lying to us no one asked any questions We can't stay here Alice I'm not crazy You know I'm not crazy and Alice is getting really worked up And she's like Margaret I can't talk to you about this. Like, goodbye, and hangs up the phone. Later that day in dance class, she's dancing. And in the mirror, she sees Margaret as like her reflection. And she's really confused. And she like walks up to the mirror. And then as she gets

there, she sees on the other side of the mirror, Margaret smashing her head against the glass over and over and over. And as she goes to do one final smash and is like really gonna kill herself alice screams and comes to you and realizes there's nothing going on there was no vision there everybody else in the dance class is looking at her like she's crazy and she goes like oh no no no no and runs out of the dance class she runs home she's absolutely terrified and she sees again uh margaret in the house across the way standing on her roof uh margaret turns to her makes eye contact grabs a knife slowly slits her throat and falls backward off the roof alice screams goes to run towards her and gets picked

up and carried off by some men in red jumpsuits. That night at home, when Jack gets back from work there, they start fighting over it. He says she's fine. She slipped and fell off the roof. She just Dr. Saar. She just had a few stitches. Ted, her husband is or whatever his name is, is with her right now. Everything's fine. And she's like, she didn't slip. I saw her. She cut her throat. She tried to hurt herself. There's no way she's okay. She like fell off the roof. And he's like, you're being hysterical. Like you need to let this go. And so she starts to ask him like, what are you guys doing at the victory project?

What do you actually do? Like what's going on here? And he gets really upset. He tells her they're doing it. He's like, you know what we do? It's the development of progressive materials. Just like, okay. And he he gets really really mad at her and it's kind of like enough alice like you could make us you could get us to lose everything not everyone gets this opportunity

our life together we could lose it our life my angel He's a very bad actor. In this moment, at least. He's bad when it has to be, you know, more emotionally intense. Charming. Yeah. But he's basically like, we are not you are not allowed to ask what we're doing. And like Ted is going to get fired because of Margaret's behavior. Like you're going to make us lose our whole life. You keep probing. And he gets like really, really mad at her.

And so she drops it for the night um the next day she is making lunch and she's got saran wrap and she just starts wrapping it around her face totally wraps around her face completely smothers herself starts breathing in through the plastic and then freaks out and like tears it off tears it off her face um and after that cut to dr collins who's the victory project doctor played by timothy simmons um simons i don't know simons great um who is great but you know not in this movie nobody is um but he comes and visits them and uh clearly like word has gotten out about the screaming at the dance class and she's maybe not doing so well and so he's like you, you know, I'm going to give you prescribe you some medication. It'll help you calm down. It'll help you sleep. And she doesn't want to take it. And Jack, she was with her and

he's like, it's OK. Like everything's fine here. We can handle it. And so Alice asks, like, what did you do for Margaret? I just I I want to know what happened to her. She's my friend. I want to make sure she's OK. He's really hesitant to talk about it, but he's finally like, you know, she was, she was really, she needed a lot of psychological help.

She was paranoid. She made it impossible for Ted to do his job. So he's been fired. And that like, hopefully she gets the help she needs. She was really unwell. And, you know,

she refused treatment. And Jack, Jack's like, that's not gonna be a problem here. That's not gonna happen. We're all, we're all fine. Um, and so they, she like puts on a smile and they're like, okay, bye doctor. She notices as he's talking to her that he has a briefcase and in the briefcase is a file that says Margaret's name on it. And so she clocks out and it's like, Oh, I want to read that file. Um, but the doctor gets up and leaves and he's like, Jack, why don't you talk to me outside? As he leaves, she realizes he left his briefcase.

She rifles through it. She gets Margaret's file out just in time. He comes back for his briefcase, leaves. All is good. She opens the file, reads it, and everything is redacted. There's nothing in it that she can read except for the words subject refused care and final warning. But the rest is redacted

She's really frustrated There's no information there she burns the file That night she Is taking a bath and she Once again has those visions Of these creepy Synchronized dancers They're like doing

What looks to me like synchronized swimming but it's dancing That's why I'm calling them synchronized dancers um they're like doing what looks to me like synchronized swimming but it's dancing that's why i'm calling them synchronized so i can't think of a better way to put it they're like doing like leg stuff in a little formation but they're like you know i don't know little dancers like rockets kind of a thing yeah but like on the ground i don't know rockets on the ground rockets in a circle on the ground Kits and a circle on the ground Kits say it better than that And So she's also seen like little Flashes of what sort of looks like a more modern

Day apartment like we're getting Little like bits and pieces of like a nightstand And like things that just don't look like this Palm Springs 60s world But Sort of again comes to and Jack Is putting on a tux and he's like, wow, you're still not ready. Like we need to we keep getting indications that it's like she like blacks out for large periods of time.

Yeah. And so he comes and he's like, I've got you this dress for you to wear tonight. And he's like, I've been thinking I think we should have a baby. And she's really thrown by this. And I was like, OK, we have to get ready to go. thrown by this and um it's like okay we have to get ready to go um and so they go to a big party hosted by victory project by frank and his wife they show up everybody's there it's like a it seems like a sort of like gatsby-ish party where everyone's like really dressed up and drinking and um at this party um frank keeps sort of like making eye contact

With Allison like really staring at her And she's noticing it and she's feeling freaked out And like she's very on edge already At this party Gemma Chan Again I don't remember her character name She was like you know this night is for all of you But I couldn't help but get a gift for Frank

And so here's this gift for Frank And it's Dita Von Teese I've always said teased but i'm not sure i thought just as i said i was like is it dita von teese sounds better anyways dita von teese in a fucking stripping in a martini glass and so everybody's like sexy sexy loving it and as sexy sexy and as that is happening alice we notice alice is like really starting to freak out and is like sort of having a panic attack and she's like she keeps getting flashes of those other dancing women like the Dito and he's like reminding her of

those dancing women somehow and she's also then keeps picturing Margaret and Margaret killing herself and Margaret falling off the roof and she's like really starting to freak out and so she says to Jack just like Jack please I need to go home please take me home but just then Frank gets on stage and he's like, I have an announcement to make. Can I please get Jack Chambers up here?

And she's still like, no, Jack, please, we have to go. And he goes up with Frank, leaves her. And Frank gives Jack a promotion. He's like, I'm, you know, I'm making you a senior member of the senior advisory board. And it's like, oh, my God, what a big deal. Everybody's so thrilled as this is happening. Alice gets up and goes to the bathroom. She's like totally freaking out.

And so we're cutting back and forth here between her in the bathroom having a panic attack and what's happening on stage, which is that inexplicably Frank is like, let's get the boy to dance and, uh, and makes Jack start tap dancing for all of them. But it like looks like his face isn't dancing. Like it looks like he's like almost being puppeteered. Like he doesn't really want to be dancing, but he's like,

come on, let's just keep dancing. Look at him go. And it's just like, I don't know why it's happening. And the dancing is he's like, he's like let's just keep dancing. Look at him go. And it's just like, I don't know why it's happening. And the dancing is he's like, he's like flinging his body into little circles. Yeah, it's like it really does look like he's like literally being puppeteered. Again, we're not told why.

But, you know, also at the end of the dance, then they start chanting. Like Frank just starts chanting like Whose world is it? Ours! Whose world is it? Ours! And all the men are like screaming that and are being like Yeah! We love it here! Meanwhile Alice is having a complete panic attack In the bathroom. Bunny follows her in

And it's like honey what is going on? Like are you okay? And she's like Margaret was like something happened to Margaret I saw it. i don't think she was crazy i think something is going on here like i'm scared like do you know what she's like i went out there i went to headquarters and i think i saw something and bunny flips and it's like you went to headquarters like you are not supposed to do that's the one thing they ask of us your husband is out there having the night of his life and you are freaking out you're gonna ruin

everything and she gets like really mad at her so she's like you know completely alone in that moment um but then we cut to the next night and jack and alice are hosting a dinner party uh and frank and for frank and his wife uh in addition to some other couples and it's like oh my god i can't believe you got them to come to your house what a big deal um and so everybody arrives it's uh's Kate Burlant and her husband. It's the new wife and husband and Frank and his wife. And as they're all settling in and having their drinks, Alice goes back to the kitchen to prepare dinner. And Frank follows her in.

And he says to her, I'm sorry, Bunny didn't believe you. But then again, you didn't believe Margaret. So why would anybody believe you? My God, you fascinate me. I've been waiting for someone like you, someone to challenge me. No great man has changed the course of history without being pushed to his limits. I do hope you keep going. And yet here you are preparing dinner like a good girl.

And yet here you are preparing dinner Like a good girl And so she's Really creeped out and Is like oh my god it's I was right Fucking something's going on here So they all go to sit down To dinner and at the last minute Alice takes

Jack's seat at the head of the table and so everyone For a minute is like duh And he clearly feels a little emasculated and is like Okay I guess I'll sit here. But they all sort of like move past it and try to go about their regular chit chat. And then Alice starts asking questions. She goes like, Violet, how did you and your husband meet? And they start to tell a story and she steps in and tells it for them.

And it's like, yeah, right. You dropped your ticket on a train to Boston and he picked it up and he started talking like that's how you and met your husband and isn't that how this other person met his or her husband and they're like oh yeah funny coincidence and frank this whole time is staring at her like he's so pleased to see where she's going and she says and where are you from philadelphia everyone here is all the women here are from philadelphia or baltimore or washington and then like go and keeps listing off and off and where did you honeymoon that's right we've all Honeymooned here here here she's like we are told We remember like we're all

Isn't that like a weird coincidence we all share the same Memories like Frank and she starts Just starts going off Frank is doing something to us He's like putting things in our heads Um You know everyone is Getting very on edge at this point and Frank Says you know this is the same paranoia that that got Margaret.

You know, it's very sad. Alice, you see trust as as a means of control. But, you know, you trust every day, you know, just like he's he goes, you know, like I trusted you in my bedroom. And it seems to imply that they had an affair but i think he's talking about when he watched them having sex i think so i think so but again we don't really deal with it and it is just like a like he used that as a point against her like i remember how i trusted you in my bedroom and and jack looks confused just a weird way to get at that point um i hated this because i knew i knew exactly what was happening in the scene do you know what i mean

it's one of those scenes that starts and you're like oh this is going to be her trying to prove that she's gonna look more paranoid make her look bad you know you just go into a scene you're just like i don't want to watch this like i know exactly what they're doing and i hate it what happens is she just she gets more flustered and is like no no like he's lying to us we shouldn't trust him and everyone is like oh no she is crazy until finally jemma chan shouts like enough we come to your house you are you invite us in and then you insult my husband and what he's doing you sit there demanding answers to questions you made up it's heartbreaking that your sad desperate paranoia could destroy everything we've tried to build well i won't listen to your pathetic whining anymore and she like gets up and leaves and it's like oh shit

okay so they all get up and leave except for frank and alice are the last two at the table and he says to her i was expecting so much more from you Good luck Alice And then he leaves Jack comes back in and they start to fight about it He's like did you set up this whole night just to embarrass me And she's like no I just They like actually share a really heartfelt moment Where she's like I love you so much I believe in you

I don't believe in Frank I don't believe in this place I don't trust him Please can we go I will go anywhere with you We can do it you and me we love each other I can't believe in this place. I don't trust him. I think I just please, please can we go? Like, I will go anywhere with you. We can do it. You and me, we love each other. I just, I can't do it here.

Please, please, please. Will you leave with me? And he finally says, okay. She's like, great. Let's pack a bag. Let's get in the car right now. And then they do. And they pack their bags and they get in the car and she's like, okay, let's go.

And he won't drive. And she's like, Jack, let's go. He says, I really didn't want this to happen. And then men in red jumpsuits come and they pull her out of the car and she's screaming and he's screaming. And he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And she gets pulled out and he is really upset in the car. Fuck! pulled out and he is really upset in the car fuck and um and then we see she gets uh electroshock therapy which is pretty upsetting um and as that's happening we cut she starts uh we see a whole life

that she has with harry styles in the modern world we're seeing what her real life was. And in this world, Harry Styles has acne. He's and he wears glasses. Here's the twist, everyone. Here it is. We see Harry Styles and her and him saying him being like, what am I going to do? I lost my job. She's like, it's OK.

I'll take extra shifts We're going to be fine and then yeah She sees the electroshock therapy happening and then it Cuts so just in fact if she we learn is a surgeon She comes you know She gets out of surgery she comes home And it's it's Harry Styles sitting at a fucking vertical computer

Monitor computer monitor really Gets me and she Comes in and and she's like oh did you have dinner and oh man and in this world this is where i'm really like oh boy oh boy in this world he has an american accent and it is so bad she's like did you do we have anything for dinner and he was like no i'm starving i didn't eat because i didn know. I didn't know if you were going to be home for dinner. And she goes like, I don't have my phone on me when I'm in the, Oh, I was in back-to-back surgeries. I don't have my phone on me when I'm in surgery. Well, that would be great to know.

Oh, like they've never had this conversation before. This, this part was where the writing got really bad. Like this, this is this this is where no no the whole movie you kind of feel like something's fake but then this is supposed to be like real life reveal yeah quote unquote and like the the dialogue is so bad that it that's when the movie goes like wait she's a surgeon and he is such a piece of shit that he can't make himself dinner um while she's in surgery and doesn't understand that he can't text her while she's in surgery. No, it's not even that he can't make himself dinner. He can't even order food for himself.

He was like, well, I didn't know when you were going to be home and I didn't know if you wanted dinner. And then he like she goes to turn on the faucet and the hot water is out and she's like, oh, we still haven't gotten the hot water fix. And they're clearly like they don't have enough money. They're stressed. They're spread thin he immediately comes Up behind her and starts trying to fuck her and she's like

I if I can't take a shower I just need to go to bed like I have To work again in six hours to have a 30 hour shift And he's like trying to kiss her neck And she's like just please like I can't Right now okay and like Goes to her room and He

Is really upset about this looks all mad but we then we cut back to we're back in victory and we arrive back in victory he jack pulls up in a brand new car with alice in the passenger seat there's a welcome home alice sign hung up she comes out of the car bunny's there hugs her oh my god you're back how are you feeling she like, I'm feeling much better. Jack goes back to work and is like, okay. She's like, you can go. You've been taking such good care of me. Like, go, go. I'll be with Bunny. She and Bunny sit on the lawn and gossip again. And Bunny starts telling her about somebody in Victory and Alice can't remember who it is. And it's like, sorry. I feel like my treatment, I just, I like lost some, some memories. And Bunny's like, it's OK. It's OK. You'll get it back.

You know, she goes about her regular day. We see her back to cooking. She goes to dance class back in her regular routine. That day, Jack gets home from work. She greets him at the door with a cocktail and her beautiful dress. All is back to how it was. And she tells him like, OK, you know, dinner's almost ready. Like you need to eat and get your stamina up so that you can fuck me because that's all we like to do here.

Not like that bitch surgeon. And he goes to put music on while she prepares dinner. And as he's putting on a record, he starts singing a song. And it's the song that she had been humming, which is a song from the real, real world, the 2022 world. And she hears it and it all like flashes back to her. And we see she starts freaking out in the kitchen. And then we see the rest of we see the rest of the story, which is. OK, here we go.

Here we go. This is where I I was laughing so i could have fallen on the goddamn floor in the movie theater okay we see jack again in the real world this time his hair is really long and greasy and we see him applying to be a member of the Victory Project And we see at one point up on his computer screen A like welcome to victory It's like a fucking video game World We see him applying

And doing like a video audition Basically of like entrant number 78 Name Jack Chambers Chosen wife Alice chosen nationality Britishish that was my favorite part he chose to be british why on earth they didn't just not he could have just been i don't understand because also of course that happened when harry styles got cast like nobody was thinking about it like just don't oh my god

okay anyway chosen nationality british um he is he just is disgusting we see him eating tuna fish straight from the can um coming home and unlocking like 12 000 little locks on his door and like sneaking in his apartment he has flowers in his hand He comes in he puts them down We see him walk up to his bed Where we see modern day Alice Chained to bed with like

Compression socks and an IV And her eyes Forced open with little like Fucking clamp things Like movies Like clock like orange type thing yeah laying in a bed in like a weird little dome bed uh he gets gets a fucking washcloth and squeezes the water out in her mouth meanwhile we're hearing uh like over this uh him being told like you understand that in order to participate in the

Victory Project you're responsible for the Health of your own wife and you're responsible for Keeping up with Day to day and like you know Discretion and all of this and he's like Yes yes yes I agree and he We see him get In the bed with her and like

Hold her hand and put his Little fucking eye things on and uh we hear like entering victory project and we see we look back and we see that on their dome bed is a fucking like projector screen showing images and it's those dancing floor rockets that she's been seeing and frank's voice playing overhead telling him about the victory project. And so, you know, she comes to in victory like, oh, my God, like she remembers all of it. And she's freaking out and she looks at Jack and he looks at her and he realizes that she has remembered. And she's like, what did you do?

And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. Alice, it's OK. It's OK. It's OK. Look did you do? And he's like, no, no, no, Alice, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Look, you were so unhappy. You were so unhappy before you hated your life. And she's like, it was my life. I had a job. I liked my life. You hated your life.

And she was like, it was my life. You don't get to take that from me. And he goes, I gave you this life. I gave you all of this. We are lucky to be here. Alice, we're perfect in here. Don't you want to be perfect with me? And it's this real like back and forth of, you know, she is totally freaking the fuck out because she realizes she's a half corpse in a bed with a freak.

But she is like, this is kind of a nice life and oh he loves me and i love him and he's like hugging her and and um she asks like she's really freaking out and she's just like oh i what about like are there others like who and he's like i don't know i don't know um like it's i don't have to lie to you anymore we can just like be in this together like i'll tell you everything and um and he's like I don't know I don't know um like it's I don't have to lie to you anymore we can just like be in this together like I'll tell you everything and um and he says like I don't know anybody else like everyone is responsible for his own wife and so she goes like oh my god all the women are trapped here she was freaking out again she's like oh my god the kids he goes no no the kids aren't real don't worry don't worry the kids aren't real and she goes like okay I just I just like need I just need a minute like i and he's

clinging to her and like squeezing her and squeezing her on his knees in front of her and she's just like trying to get away from him he won't let her go and she grabs a big huge fucking rocks glass off the shelf smashes it into her head and they both get knocked out i guess she gets like squeezed she smashes it into her own head no no Squeezed she smashes Into her own head no no She smashes his head but comes To and like wakes up on the Ground so she maybe she lost Consciousness again for I don't know whatever reason

But she comes to He is dead dead dead She's covered in blood And Bunny walks in finds them And it's like oh my god oh my god Alice What did you do what's going on And she's trying them, and it's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, Alice, what did you do? What's going on?

And she's trying to tell it. She's like, Bunny, Bunny, we're all trapped here. And we have to get out of here. And Bunny's like, you need to go. You've been to headquarters. You know how to get out. You need to fucking go. And she's like, no, no, no, Bunny, you don't understand.

And Bunny's like, I know. I know what this is. Like, I've always known. You have to get out. And she's like, no, no, no, Bunny, you don't understand. And Bunny's like, I know. I know what this is. Like, I've always known. You have to get out. And she's like, you've always known? She's like, yes, I choose to be here. I choose to be here because in here, in here my kids are alive. In here, I still get to have them.

Wait, OK, so she doesn't actually say. And this is a feminist movie. Wait, wait, wait, wait. She doesn't actually say my kids are alive. She says I get to be with my kids. No, no, no. She does say they didn't die. I think she says in here.

I don't think she does. I think that it's because, because I remember when I was watching it, I was like, did her kids die? Or was she like, cause throughout the, throughout the entire thing, she's drinking. Oh, I remember. I have the opposite memory where i'm like wow she just really made it very explicit for us like we get it your kids are dead i'm fairly certain she says i'm almost positive i am literally almost positive wait really i almost

want to i almost want to i almost here's what she says in here i i'm here i choose to be here because in here my kids are alive in In here, I didn't lose them. She says they're alive, though? Yes, because I remember laughing at that part because it was like, okay, yeah, we know. I thought it was implied like she was such a bad mom that they were like taken away from her. And so she like couldn't, didn't have custody of her kids anymore. I think it's stupider than that. That would be better.

That would be more interesting. Because then she would be like kind of more evil too in a way. No, no. I think it's literally like my kids died so I chose this so that I can still have my kids. I really think that's what it is. Because she also like hates her kids the entire time. Yeah, this movie sucks.

But I'm I mean we'll look it up after the fact but I'm I am almost positive that it's She's just spelling it right out for us. I mean we'll look it up after the fact but I'm I am almost positive I remember reacting to it being like wow She's just spelling it right out for us I remember reacting to it too because I could See how someone Whose opinions I disagree with could read that

And be like wow this is a feminist movie Because women can be bad too and it's like Complicated and just being like Jesus fucking Christ It's very stupid I think it's Very very stupid and I think it's that her kids D. And I think it's that her kids died in the real world. So she chose to do this fucking shit. But she tells Alice, she says, Alice, if you die, if you die in victory, you die in the real world, too.

You have to get out because because they won't pull like there's going to be nobody to pull you out. Like you have you have to go. They're going to kill you. You know how to drive. get in the car and go So she goes out and she walks into the street and everybody for whatever reason is walking out of their homes Now and all the husbands are they see you're covered in blood and they're like what the fuck's going on? They start freaking out because they obviously all know what the deal is with victory project And they're like, uh alice alice go go go back inside All the street lights are like the light bulbs are exploding, I guess, because all of their like grip on reality is disappearing.

All the wives are looking like all of a sudden they're sort of remembering what's actually going on. And the new husband, Bill, says to Nick Kroll, he's like, they said this was they said this could never happen. And he says, shut up, Bill. That was his big line his big moment but yeah so she out uh alice gets the car drives to headquarters she's being pursued by all these men in red jumpsuits big car chase scene um meanwhile frank keeps getting update calls um about what's going on and he you know gets a call That she's getting away and he's like she can't get away we have To make sure you get her and as

He hangs up the phone he turns around and Gemma Chan stabs him with a Big old knife twists it Kills him and says you stupid Stupid man it's My turn now your Turn what the fuck does that mean Nope nope nope I mean one of

Many things Oh my god So Alice meanwhile she does finally make it She gets away she makes it up to headquarters She gets up to the glass And just before she goes to pull herself out She gets a vision of Jack Behind her hugging her Saying how much he loves her

And not to leave him Which makes her hesitate for a second She comes out of it Sees the men in red Gems is pursuing her Comes up puts her hands on the glass Knocks her head back as if she's getting Knocked out and then we

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be no no no i i started to suspect that it was like like a little toy town, basically, like like that. They is 2022 or something, but that they're like physically kept in an alternate reality world. I kind of thought there was maybe just one mastermind that maybe they were all prisoners there and maybe it was just Frank doing it all. I figured I thought they were like real bodies were inside of that headquarters that's what i thought that like they didn't want you to see should have been right yeah inside the headquarters because you would see your own body in there why does touching glass make you okay here's my list of questions oh my god i have so many questions so many why does touching glass make you come out why wouldn't there be somebody

up there all the time to fucking kill the person who tries to get themselves out why isn't that place always monitored who are the men in red jumpsuits why don't they live in that dome house um uh what the fuck are the earthquakes what are the earthquakes what's the plane what's the what's the plane what's the plane if they're trying to keep these women in this world, why punish a woman by taking her son? Where's her son? What, what is that?

Why would they make her think that her son is dead? If they're trying to keep placate these women. Also, is the electroshock therapy happening in the fake world? And if so, is it happening in the real world? Is it happening in the real world? What's the happening in the real world? Or is it happening in the real world? What's the mechanism for even getting them into this space? And why is Harry Styles

and the men, why do they get, why are they all self-aware? How are they self-aware? But then the women are not, and they have like memories implanted. And then all the men seem to know they're in on it together. I was kind of like thinking, oh, there's something the men are weird. I kind of knew that because I felt like the casting was really on like really hot wives with more normal men. Yeah. Normal looking men like having casting Nick Kroll was interesting. Do you know what I mean? Like it felt like a little bit of a choice. Feels like a little bit of a choice um feels like a little bit of a choice and harry styles i think the thing that i think the thing that changed for me is that watching this movie

at the end i was like i can see him as an incel like i can't see it oh my god the choice the choice oh my god the choice to make him look like that okay also sorry that was told hollyween costume and he fucking nailed it yeah he did um did. But in Sal Harry Styles, unbelievable. The fact that this man wouldn't see himself in 50s world, 60s world, where he is the most beautiful man alive and he wouldn't go, oh, I should just get contacts and a haircut. Like, are you kidding me? He could. It's literally him. It's just him with better hair.

Yeah. Why not just do that in the real world? Just get a haircut. And if you're going to work that hard to live in that world, like you're never sleeping, you're always working or doing this world, why do their eyes have to be open? Why on earth do their eyes have to be open? And why do they, are they all required to leave during the day? I mean, it's said that Harry has to leave.

He has to leave to make money. I know, but do all of them have to work during the day yes that's why they all drive out to victory headquarters and put their hands in the glass so they can people would be doing it who like don't need to work do you know what i mean like why aren't there probably a little freaky incels just because he's only collecting incels he only accepts people who are incels well i just feel like incels would be the ones that would do it okay yeah so here's another thing um oh my god oh my god oh my god okay the fact first my honestly my biggest complaint

if they had just done this i might love this movie the fact that they didn't show us incel chris pine incel every man in this movie how fucking dare they how fucking dare they do that to harry and that gift and that that incredible humor and not everybody else. Are you kidding me? I wanted to see all the women waking up. I want to see like it's like with horror movies. We talk so much about how an explanation can ruin horror movies. And this is like so veering far the other direction where it's like, OK, you got to give us something.

You got to give us some something you and i feel like if this it's true for it's more true for kind of scythe more science fictiony things where if you present things that look like science like someone going in through a machine into a new virtual reality that implies some sort of science happening which makes us as an audience want rational answers whereas in something supernatural so many things can get written off as like well supernatural and so it doesn't that same amount of ambiguity doesn't apply here because this is set in the real world yes so we need the answers and the most the part of the movie that was the most interesting was watching little incel harry skitter into that creepy little apartment unlock all those locks open up the can of tuna eat it straight out of the can

i forgot to mention that yeah i did eating tuna straight from the can and okay i will say a bit of trivia that made me laugh so hard i cried when i was looking it up is that so okay and i made a point to talk about this in the recap when they're going to frank's party and she's like i'm gonna make my tuna salad and he goes don't make tuna salad frank hates tuna salad it's actually because all he eats is tuna and he doesn't want to eat tuna anymore oh my god because he only eats tuna from the can. I know. I know. It's so stupid. I know. That's very funny. And why?

And the eggs? It's just because it was like an algorithm. That was one of my questions. Why are some eggs empty and some eggs are not empty? Because we see other fine eggs. She's losing her grasp on reality or something. Why? Yeah.

Why the earthquakes? What the fuck are the earthquakes? The plane is my biggest question and and kate berlant's character olivia wilde says like oh she's always pregnant and it's like oh okay so like in this reality she's always pregnant she like never has a baby so she's like that's why she's drinking all the time like is she pregnant in real life i guess probably not i was wondering that too of like when harry says we should have a baby what does he mean like a virtual baby because he said the kids aren't real so it'd be a virtual baby a virtual baby and maybe kate berlant's husband like wants a pregnant wife not

actually kids and so he gets to decide that she's pregnant all the time also again so okay uh in the talking about this being a feminist movie every every time they have sex, she's being raped, essentially, because she can't consent to any of that. So that is not good. And I'm sorry, we've talked about this. I just don't buy that an incel's perfect version of life is one where he eats pussy every day. Sorry, I just don't think that's happening. Nope. I know.

But that's what made it a feminist film according to olivia wilde well it's non-consensual so no and that's what made me angry is that i knew something nefarious was going on but nonetheless when i was watching their sexy scenes i was like totally turned on by it i was like i was like oh this is great i like i'm loving their chemistry this is great oh my god they had great chemistry and they're so hot okay well and now i feel gross for thinking that fuck you olivia wilde now i feel bad if this movie if this script it's again a bad script and a stupid idea but i could see a version of it where if they treated it like it's campy if they treated it like it's really over the top uh like not a not a true if they weren't like let's make this like a real commentary on like what the world would be like if men like

this ruled it and instead we're like let's do a hyper stylized campy version of like this reality and we'll treat it kind of as a joke we'll let you know how crazy it is And again if it had ended with like All the women coming out of it and like going Ape shit on all the guys or seeing All of them as incels and like mass Murdering them or something that's the version I want Yeah but they took it So seriously the twist

Needs to be way earlier Yes the twist needs to be earlier because Also we had two hours Of her being upset nobody believing her yeah because i had i i mean i just have just so many questions so many questions why did jimmy jenner stab chris pine right why did she say it's her turn now so create the code and also it seems like yes she. Yeah, but she gets to do like her version. But why though?

Why wasn't she doing her version the whole time? What was the point of the dance class? What was that solving for? Right. And why was Harry being puppeteered into dancing in front of everybody? There are all these like kind of red herring or not red herrings, but like these things that are just not relevant. Completely irrelevant to the entire story who are the men in red jumpsuits are those real men are they like matrix style code are they like agents oh yeah maybe they're maybe they're code that would that

makes them why would they look so obviously like freaky you know almost like willy wonka stuff don't pay attention to the full head to toe red men running around like what who just come out of nowhere and pick you up and like scale mountains on foot and i don't get i don't get that and choice and was she being completely kept alive by an iv and occasional drips of water into her mouth from a washcloth yeah i think so and then what does she do when she wakes up that's why i wanted don't worry darling too again in a bed with a dead man right like if the idea is you die in real life he's dead in the bed next to her then what the fuck does she do and also like they must have faked her death right like or something right

part of the service is that they they frame or fake her death because yeah everybody would be like looking for her where'd alice go right exactly and they'd be like it's probably the boyfriend and they seem to have like a really nice relationship actually because when he says he loses in the beginning anyway when he says he loses his job and she's like it's fine like i'll pick up extra shifts like it's okay like but then what happens is she starts working to her and she can't have sex with him and so he decides to capture her in her home that's another part is like look insult insults are real And very scary and there's like a lot

To be unpacked there that we won't But I just, part of me with this movie Too and the feeling of like, oh this is a feminist Movie where I was just like, I don't Know that anyone Would actually do this The interpretation of like, see how bad This kind of

Man is, sort of like But What? If they would would i don't want to know i don't want to know if they're out there wouldn't they just rather have like a fake woman completely like why does it have to be a real woman at all like why you know yeah yeah i feel like one of my god i have so many problems also was that last moment where she has that memory of Jack and hesitates. I'm like, you wouldn't fucking hesitate. I'm sorry. Even if I was deeply in love with someone, if I find find out they fucking imprisoned me in an alternate world and like told my whole family and friends that I was dead so that they could have sex with me in a, in a fake world against my will. I'm not in love with you anymore. You'd be like, there's no going back from that. We call that a deal breaker. And not even just have sex with you in a fake world, live in a fake world where

you stay home and bring me a cocktail at the end of every day and make me dinner and have sex with me and tell me I'm great. It's like hesitating and thinking like Oh what a loss that I've lost Jack I'm gonna be thinking wow Jack is the worst thing that's Ever happened to me in my entire life like Well and it's that's true He is A couple little bits of

Spoiler trivia Spoiler trivia One was the tuna thing which I just Am obsessed with another there's a theory that the reason why she can't alice can't read anything in the medical file about margaret why it's all blacked out is based on a theory that we can't read in a dream state scientists and dream experts believe that reading writing and most aspects of language are nearly impossible to use while dreaming that's interesting but also there's some words on it that she does

there are some words on it like her name that gets to a central thing that they don't answer and maybe they don't need to but it bothers me is like they make it seem as though this fake world is completely realistic for them like they have all the feelings are the same like everything is like the same that's such a good point henley. Why are the men so aware that they're in this version when they're in it? And the women aren't. That's what leads me to believe they're getting electroshock therapy in real life. Like in 2022. I think they're like trying to take out their will to remember anything about themselves for real.

There must be something that they're doing like to their brain. about themselves for real. There must be something that they're doing, like, to their brain. Because also the straps that are used on her in the electroshock are the same that are used in her bed in 2022 when we see that she's strapped in. That's one of the most frustrating things is that the thing they're doing. But who's still using electroshock therapy? The thing they're doing to, like, get rid of her memory actually gives her her memory back.

So it's like, this is clearly not that effective because it's actually giving her her memories that's the thing is there's just so many things that are not fully thought out like they just she just wrote um a movie that was like this scene will be cool there'll be a plane crash and it's like surely that question must have come up in reading your script that you wrote a second time. Oh, right. Like, what is this plane? Why did I put that there? I mean, I do think probably this movie was quite a bit longer, at least in the script.

If like a whole Kiki Lane part was cut, maybe what they cut out was like important answers. I still don't think there's any way to make this make sense. But it also really bothered me that Olivia Wilde says, if a man dies in here, they die in real life. I wish she'd said, if anyone dies in here, they die in real life. Cause it makes it, it's like only the men die. Cause like, I think it's everyone. Cause she does say they're going to kill you. No, she, but she says they're going to kill you. Like she makes it sound like they're coming to your like home to kill you. They're not.

Do you know what I mean? I don't know. I just felt like that was kind of confusing. I thought they were going to try to get her in the dream world. They were definitely coming after her in the dream world, obviously. But then like the Kiki Lane thing. So she slits her own throat like so she dies in real life. Right.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think. Yes. We'll never know without a don't worry, darling. And that's what I've made. That would have made the movie so much more horrific if like we saw her body. Do you know what I mean?

Like, yeah, I just feel like that was the most like creepy part of the movie. If you wanted to make an actual horror movie, like lean into the real part way more oh i don't know um the last little bit of trivia is that song that she's humming that that like keeps triggering her memory for the real world that's a harry styles song of course it is harry styles original that is a harry styles song and so a couple thoughts on that one the fact that he then Hums it At the end like so it makes me imagine that That's a mod even if in the movie obviously it's not A Harry Styles song it's not a Jack song But like it has to be a modern day song

Right because that's why it would be Triggering her towards modern Day well I felt like he was just Singing it to her all the time and he's like Taking care of her in real life Oh maybe okay so Then why the fuck would he sing it in victory how could he be so very very stupid he's a stupid man he's so very stupid another thing about that that song choice must have been put in after harry styles was cast as opposed to shia right and let me tell

you what that that feeds into the theory for me about like the tension on set was because olivia styles was fucking obs olivia styles olivia was fucking obsessed with harry styles right like it's so crazy to be like oh and you're gonna um hum this song the whole time, and it's Harry's song. It's like, I just, yeah, it all feels like really, really crazy. I can't, I'm, listeners, look. Look, sorry. But here's the deal. If you haven't seen this movie, you really don't have to.

That's right. Now you get to know what all the fucking fuss is about. I needed to talk about it with my friends. Yeah. Do you guys feel healed at all? No. Not really. Or is this one wound that will stay with us forever?

It is. To our deathbeds, I guess. I'm glad that you thought it was like funny at the end. I was like so sad. Oh my God. I was dying in'm glad that you thought it was funny at the end. I was so sad. Oh my god, I was dying in the theater. I thought it was so funny. When we go into the movie, we sit down, the movie's about to begin,

Sammy whispers to me, I heard that they try to make Harry Styles ugly at some point in this movie. And to then see that what they did was gave him a nasty wig and some glasses. I mean, he doesn't look good, but it also I was like, I couldn't fuck it. I was seeing him like that was the last thing I expected this movie to do.

I even when he first shows up in real life and he has like bad swoop hair, I was like, what the fuck are they doing? I just hated thinking that like we even have to make movies about incels. You know, I'm like, they're real. it makes me so sad it makes me so sad i will say if if if it had been shia i think it would have been a much scarier yeah twist even aside from obviously the the real life stuff about him he just he has a scary presence and i could see that twist from charming guy who's still a little bit scary sort of like chris pine was the whole time was like he already is a little bit scary to being like fully terrifying right that makes sense to me i think that's actually very good casting for that role i don't think everything else aside acting abilities aside i don't think harry is a good fit for that

role he's too like the one side of it you know yeah it's like a charming little sweetie he doesn't have as much of a dark side of something that i could believe that is like oh he's sinister i kind of saw it i can see him being sinister absolutely sweet boy with his sequence and his jumpsuits his sweet innocent boy i love him oh you guys i mean i think just like we started talking about the online shopping this is another i'm not healed thing of like it's a sickness really sickness is what it is and like this this whole don't worry darling period of my life has not been good no it makes me feel very bad it's not added to my life to my quality of life to my happiness but it sure has taken up a lot of time we've talked about this and this

feels bad because it's like real people and i i don't know whatever but like the feeling i felt when i learned that Olivia Stiles, Olivia Stiles, Olivia Wilde and Harry Stiles had maybe broken up was immense relief. It was relief. I felt relief. Because I was like, thank God, maybe this chapter's over.

Maybe let's take it to his page. Because it's like, I'm powerless to stop paying attention. So I need them to stop. There. So I need them to stop. There's nothing I can do. Okay. So what needs to happen? What desperately needs to happen is we all need to meditate three hours a day.

We need to really start taking charge of our minds because our minds have gotten out of control. And we need to practice. Our minds have gotten out of control. We need to practice reeling them in because i don't live like this anymore i don't either i don't either and we can say that this this two hour podcast we just did was one step towards purging ourselves from this narrative listeners thank you for joining us on our healing journey we have a lot of a lot of healing left to do. It's a long road ahead. There is a long, long road ahead. And I would just like to ask this question of our friend.

And again, you know who you are, but do you really think it's beneath us? Do you? Do you think? Is there anything lower than us? Because I would say no, no, no. No, there is not. I am a worm. We got to go to the depths in order to, you know, heal that.

It's always darkest before the dawn. That's right. The only way out is through. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We did it. We did it. And I don't think I got it.

I mean, imagine, I would like to live in a world where this is beneath me. And thank you for having that opinion of me. It's wrong. But perhaps it will propel me towards a life where that's true. Yeah. It's going to be a step in that direction. We can dream big. We can dream big.

All right. Well, we did it. Oh, hey. Well, guess what? This movie comes out the day before Thanksgiving if you are an American living person. And I'm thankful. Thankful for you listeners. Really, truly, wow, so thankful.

Especially today. This we asked a lot of you. Thank you for letting us, letting this be a healing space. Thank you for letting us take some care of ourselves. Thank you for letting us be our worst selves a healing space um thank you for letting us take some care of ourselves thank you for letting us be our worst selves which we just were for two hours i'm very thankful for the two of you and i'm really hopeful that this next year ahead will have a lot less of this movie in it i hope so i think it will i feel optimistic i can't wait to see what olivia

wilde does next oh my god you guys i'm thankful for you i'm thankful for whatever just happened henley is like smushing her own face she looks like she's trying to take a mask off it's because i thought that i thought that going through that again would make me feel better, but it didn't. It made me feel. I know. This is maybe a mistake. Let this be a lesson to us. It never feels better.

It didn't feel better. I don't feel better. Every time I looked for one more little bit of gossip from Venice, I was like, each time I felt worse and worse. It's like feeding an endless black hole. It's that heroin button, guys. worse and worse. It's feeding an endless black hole. It's that heroin button, guys. It's the heroin button. Everything's the same. Hey, are we okay?

Is this going to be a thing we listen back to in a year and we're like, uh-oh. Remember where we were at then? Yeah, I won't be listening back. No, I won't. It'll be as if this never happened for me personally But

But Holy crap Thanksgiving Wow Happy Thanksgiving Everybody We are so so thankful Everybody have a good one

Love you Love you guys so much Love you guys Love you guys Take care of yourselves Take care of yourselves Mental health is fragile That's right Should we do Harry's voice? Oh yeah Take care of yourselves. Take care of yourselves. Mental health is fragile.

That's right. Should we do Harry's voice? Oh, yeah. It's like a real, like, go to the theater, movie, picture, movie. I don't remember what he... Oh, life. Now not everyone gets this opportunity. I don't know. I can't really do his accent, but I do love it.

That was honestly like spot on Movie picture movie from all of us here At Too Scary Didn't Watch Goodbye Goodbye Goodbye Just saying goodbye in an accent is so hard Goodbye

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