Too Scary; Didn't Watch - EDEN LAKE

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Psychotic teens, Michael Fassbender, and a truly unfortunate ending, we're recapping EDEN LAKE! This movie has the same director as the upcoming SPEAK NO EVIL re-make.....so you know we're in for a terrible time!!!! James Watkins, you can go fuck yourself, sir!!TW: Child abuseTrailerMovie stats @ 18:17Recap @ 20:45Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And I felt like we've been having a little too much fun lately. No, Sammy.

That is not okay. Sammy. So we got a not fun one today. Oh, man. Darn. And yet I'm excited about it. She has a huge goddamn grin on her face. This girl is elated.

Oh, I really am. Carol is elated. Oh, I really am. But if you want to get straight to the recap of this week's movie, you can navigate using the timestamps in the show notes. Because before we get into it, I want to know, did anything scary happen to you guys this week? Henley, you've got a little grin on your face. Did something scary happen to you this week?

Okay, I watched the show. I didn't finish it. I actually couldn't finish it. I read spoilers instead. I watched One Day on Netflix. Have you guys been seeing this? Oh, it is definitely being heavily promoted. I don't know anything about this.

Why is it not being promoted to me? I feel left out. Okay, so it's based off of a book written by david nichols and then anne hathaway made a movie about it that was apparently very bad is it is it the guy from white lotus yes okay now we're talking okay woodell yeah yes okay uh new actress i've never seen her in anything ambika i i don't know how to pronounce her name, Maude. Is the premise that it takes place over like 20 years and it's just those same two actors? Yes. God, it's funny when they do that. I really think it's so funny.

Oh, man. Okay. So do you guys know anything about it? No. It is so upsetting. Oh, no. It's so upsetting. Oh, no. It's so sad. What? Oh, that is not the vibe I was getting from the trailers. Same.

Looks like a rom-com. It is. It's kind of a rom. Well, that's part of the reason why. It's a rom. Rom no com. It's a rom no com. That's part of what makes it so sad is that they lull you into feeling like you're safe.

Oh, no. But you are not. And essentially, the conceit is that, yes, you're following these two characters who meet the last day of school in Edinburgh. And for one day for the next 20 years, you see like the course of their relationship and their lives. for one day for the next 20 years you see like the course of their relationship and their lives and um it's such an easy binge watch because the episodes are only between like 20 and 30 minutes a lot of them are only like 22 minutes long yeah and you immediately want to watch the next one because the next one is a year later so you're like where the fuck are they a year later like you're immediately you you want to know and i'm thinking, how'd they age these actors up in one year increments?

You know, it wasn't that, that's a really good question. I would love a deep dive with, you know, costume and makeup people on how they thought about that. But it isn't, it's a drastic age change in some ways, but in other ways't it's a drastic age change in some ways but in other ways it's not really how younger when they start how i think that they're like i don't think it's a full 20 years i think they're probably like 22 to 38 or something like that yeah i mean i guess you know and so they make them look young at 22 like she has completely different hair and terrible style and they basically make her more um put together as she gets older that's that's realistic yeah um but the fucking you guys i didn't watch the final episode because i kept reading these headlines that was like

gut-wrenching new series or you will want to die after you exactly and so I was like fuck fuck fuck I don't think I can do it I don't think I can do it so then I just read spoilers and I know what happens and I was like I okay it's fine I can watch it I can watch it so I was like watching it and then I would like turn it off and then I would turn it back on and be like Henley just fucking watch fucking watch it. You know what's going to happen. Just let it happen. Just let it happen. And then I would turn it off. So I still haven't seen the end. But Leo Waddell, is that how you say his name?

He is dreamy. I like have a crush on him now. Is he British in it? Yeah, he's British. He's really cute. And I don't get like crushes on actors a lot. So it was nice to feel that way. Must be nice. Yeah, I can't relate to that at all. I think I get a crush on every single actor I've ever seen on screen. Every single one.

It's a huge problem for me. Wish that I did because it makes watching things so much more fun. You he is a he kind of is despicable in this series in a lot of ways. So you're you're not completely in love with him, but he's really cute. And the first episode is in a he's in a tux the whole time. And sometimes men just look good in a tux, a little undone tux. I can do a lot. I can do a lot for a man. Anyway, I recommend it if you want to feel shattered. Yeah, I'm interested.

Now you're more interested. I'm less interested. I know. You've convinced me. Sad? Feel bad? Yeah. Sad, feel bad?

Yeah. That's my kind of show. And it's a quick watch, you know? Yeah. And it's pretty immediately entertaining. You know, I'm actually looking for a show to watch for the whole rest of the day after we finish recording so here you go i did a similar thing recently i was watching a show and a character died in it in like a way that i was like i really found it

very upsetting it was like a you know tangential character but like i really hated it and i had to like keep telling myself like this wasn myself like, this wasn't real. Like this wasn't real. He didn't really, he wasn't a real person. Like it's really hard sometimes. I know. But then you want it,

you want it to be real. But I was also, I love it when I love a show, you know, for those glorious, glorious 36 hours when I still had this show in my life. Oh, it's so exciting to sit down and know I had a show.

I was looking forward to watching. Yeah, to still have more of it is really nice. Feels good. It really feels good. It really does. What about you guys? How are your weeks? Well, I wrapped up my job.

I had my last day on Friday. Woohoo! And I have a whole week off and I guess what's scary is I'm already like I don't have any time to do anything I've started to think about what I had all these thoughts of here's what I'm going to do in my week off wow I'm going to do this project

I'm going to do these alterations I'm going to go to this store that store and I'm immediately like all my time is gone I don't last night I drove Sammy home. Sammy and Joel and I were all at a friend's house. And I drove Sammy home, which meant I had to make space in the back of my car and was immediately like, oh, my God, I have my car is full of shit.

I've been meaning to do for literally months. Clothes that need to be donated. Packages that need to be returned. And I'm like, I, like, the week is already gone. The week is already gone. I won't have any time to do anything. It won't be relaxing at all. It's just because I haven't had time to live my life.

And all of a sudden, I'm like, I have to get everything done this week. Because I'll never have time again. Because then I'm going to start another job. Emily, you're really speaking my language because as you know i have not had a full-time job in months now possibly approaching the year mark no no it's not quite that long but i still have that feeling i'm still like catching up with stuff what the hell it it's it's a very interesting thing that happens in your brain where when you have important things to do like you have children or you have a job that is just the priority and yeah you don't have other things

the other things get filed to a lesser importance level and you don't stress about those things but once you don't have those things to focus on then those lower tier things become extremely anxiety inducing and those become the main focus they're all important yes yeah and it's so hard to prioritize this is really resonating with me because i'll have like a free hour or two and all of a sudden i'll be like what do i do with my hour like it's like it feels like an avalanche of things and i am paralyzed and just sit and look at my phone and don't accomplish any of it yeah it's i'm like i woke up this morning i like was laying in bed and that thing in the morning where it's like You're trying to go back to sleep

But then you can't really go back And I just started thinking about All the things I needed to do And when was I gonna do them And Was immediately like Well I guess

This week off is Already Full of tasks And it's not gonna be any fun And That's not true I am gonna relax Joel and I are going to Madonna Inn

I That is That is like Required relaxation time I can't do my errands And it's not going to be any fun. And that's not true. I am going to relax. Joel and I are going to Madonna Inn. That is required relaxation time. I can't do my errands while I'm at Madonna Inn. So that was a good choice. Good. And I'm grateful for the week off. But it is, I all of a sudden was like, oh, okay. So I have stuff, I still have stuff to do.

And this feeling of like, you're never going to get this opportunity again. again when are you ever gonna get a whole week off without jobs you know between you know it's like so it also feels like you better get all the projects done that you have been waiting to do because this is your one shot so this is giving me anxiety i'm sorry you need to just you need need to time block your days. Monday and Tuesday are task days. And you just like fucking do it all. Yeah. I'm going to make some lists.

I love to make a list. I have an app that's just called Calendar. Oh, that's a great idea. That I prefer. It's called Calendars. Excuse me. Thank you. And I do pay for it, but it's cheap.

And I prefer it to google's uh layout it's just visually i'm gonna look into this for me and you can add tasks and i literally put everything in a calendar because yeah the smallest things like doing dishes or what i'm like it's in the calendar because oh I love that then I can Stress about it Less because I So I spend every Monday planning out my whole week that's Like the first thing I do Monday morning and so

Then I don't have to stress anymore and I'm like well the Whole week's planned out now and so I don't have to feel Like I have to do everything at once Because now I've scheduled that Laundry's on Thursday so I don't have to like Freak out about it today I think I need to get That's you know what that's gonna be Thursday. So I don't have to like freak out about it today. That is very healthy. I think I need to get, that's, you know what? That's going to be a goal as I move into this next job

is get like having a better plan and letting, cause it is relaxing to like know when things are happening. One of my coworkers as a gift, you know, leaving gift got me a planning journal, which I do love. I do love a planner. God, I love a planner. planning journal which i do love i do love a planner god i love a planner um so maybe today i'm going to take a look at that planner and i'm gonna write some things down yeah it just it it lessens the stress when you can yeah put it down on paper and just be like well i don't have to worry about it right now because that's what i

did when i was in school but i haven't lived that way you know what i mean but like that that's what that's why you have like little planners when you're in school because you have to be like, well, I don't have to worry about it right now because that's what I did when I was in school, but I haven't lived that way. You know what I mean? But like that, that's what, that's why you have like little planners when you're in school. Cause you have to be like, well, I'm going to do this class's work from this to this time, but then I have to do this class's. And we can think about life that way. You know, we could think about life that way. I simply have to, it is not an option for me to not have that because otherwise I have this feeling of avalanche, like we're describing. describing if if I don't put everything on paper in designated time slots then it feels like it all needs to happen right now oh god oh you guys I did this I put everything into time slots your children don't know what your time slots are I feel like that's that's the problem there

I like spent so much time doing it. I was like, this is exactly how I'm going to spend my days. Blah, blah, blah. You better believe I haven't fucking done one thing in one of those time slots. Like not once. How could you possibly? Instead, I live off of these little my mother-in-law actually got me this like pile of paper that I keep on my desk. Pile of paper.

Very sweet. And I just I literally like just write on these little pieces of paper. I have post-its. I do love post-its. That's the only way I can. And I have to do it like within like a certain time period. If I do it too far in advance, I'm not looking at this again. Yeah.

Never looking at this again. No, honestly, this was really helpful for me. This was helpful for me okay good piles of paper i'll send you this app apps calendars we all need little systems in place you know and henley i think a big part of it is just like even if the plan goes awry i think there's something to setting the plan to try to be intentional you know yeah yes yeah if i had a a toddler in control of my day like they're not gonna they don't they're chaos machines like they don't fucking know what is on the paper yeah says is a chaos machine and so is may they're both chaos machines

cute though they're fucking cute Sammy let's do it let's just tell us I gotta hear your scary thing I know you're really excited to get to this bad feeling time my scary thing's not actually

scary it's more of a plug I guess it's a little scary I have a documentary series that I worked on coming out on March 5th on Netflix. So it's a little scary to create something and put it into the world. Absolutely.

The show is called The Program Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping. It is about the troubled teen industry. It is not a fun watch um but i am very proud of it and i am excited that it's finally coming out because i actually finished working on it about a year ago and i don't know why it took this long, but who knows? But it's finally coming out.

And I'm excited for people to see it. It's really important. It's really important. I think that not enough people know that this industry exists. Oh, it's so, so wild. It's so destructive. It's going to be a feel bad for sure. It's feel bad, but yes, these places still exist. I feel like a point of reference that some people may know is that Paris Hilton was in one of these programs.

She was in one that's the same company that we focus on in this documentary series. We're focusing on a company called WASP. It's the worldwide association of specialty programming that might not be correct but something like that um and that they're basically the umbrella company that started all these um programs in different states that are just privately run nobody is accredited with any like professional degrees the teachers are not teachers the the counselors have no licenses like they're basically just people hired from the community and given like pamphlets of how to do jobs that they are in no way qualified for. And because they are privately run, there's no oversight.

There's no rules or regulations that they have to follow. These places are perfect places for child abuse to happen. And that's kind of worked into some of the language of the way that they run the programs because they use the fact that teens are being sent there because they're in a rebellious, problematic stage of their life. And so then they tell you, oh, your kids are liars your kids are manipulators they're gonna say that you know bad things are happening here don't believe them and yeah it's it's really devastating and they were extremely popular in the early 2000s and they're you know less popular today but they still exist and yeah so i hope people will check

it out it's called the program netflix march 5th and you know just watch with caution but yeah i hope people watch yeah because a big part of it is that parents didn't know exactly what they were sending their kids into. I think parents, not all of them, but some parents were doing like all the best intentions thinking that they were doing the best thing they could for their kid. And the,

and the places are like propaganda machines. Yeah. It was at the, at a time when there was a lot of focus on tough love. Yeah. Oh, God, it's. I know. Well, proud of you, Sammy.

Thank you, Henley. You're amazing. Thank you. And now, without further ado, Henley, we can talk about this week's movie. OK. further ado henley we can talk about this week's movie okay which is eden lake came out in 2008 written and directed by james watkins starring kelly riley michael fassbender and jack o'connell and it is streaming on freebie freebie freebie Freebie keeps coming up in my life. There's something else that was on Freebie that I was trying to watch. Jury Duty? No, I don't remember what it was.

I've never heard of this movie. Me either. No? No. I had definitely heard of it. In my brain, it was kind of lumped into a torture-porn-y time. No! into a torture porny time.

I wouldn't call it torture porn, but it's 2008, you know, this was time for it. This is a British film and so I don't know. It was like living in the same place in my mind as

like Inside and High Tension, even though those are French films. But I think it's roughly the same time. Did you like it, Sammy? I did like it, yes. Okay, okay. All right.

Don't let that soothe you, Henley. You know, I remember kind of enjoying High Tension. Yeah. I liked High Tension. I liked High Tension as well. I liked High Tension. I liked High Tension as well. I'm going to love this one. Okay, yeah. I think maybe we're in for a treat.

Thank you. Eden Lake has an 81% on Rotten Tomatoes, 65% on Metacritic, and a 6.7 on IMDB. Standard. Budget was $2 million. It on IMDb. Standard. Budget was two million. It made four million. Okay, so you know, doubled it. Doubled its money. It's nothing to sneeze at.

And I couldn't really find much trivia about it other than this is James Watkins' directorial debut. This movie's a crisp 91 minutes. Ooh! And it's, like I said, a British film filmed in England.

Great. That's all I got. I'll sprinkle some more trivia in throughout, but... Okay, great. I think... Let's just get into this recap. Let's do it. Okay, let's do it. Let's do it.

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Okay, so I'm going to start by bragging that immediately this music, the music that starts our opening scene, I said, that sounds like the music from The Descent. Looked it up, same composer. I know the music to The Descent so well. Loves her horror soundtracks. To be fair, it genuinely sounds at times like they just used the Bimbo for the descent. Like it's almost exactly the same. So we are seeing our protagonist.

Her name is Jenny Greengrass. Oh, little on the nose there. Nothing could be bad in Jenny Greengrass's life. That's really funny. She is a teacher teaching a class full of young students and classes out for the weekend. It's the end of the school day. Her boyfriend, Steve, is picking her up for a romantic weekend getaway. This is Michael Fassbender. Hard for me to see him as a guy named Steve.

I don't know why. I agree. Anyway. Which is funny because Michael is a standard name as well. Michael and Steve are the same. Michael and Steve are the same, to be honest. But Steve is... Maybe it's just the V.

Maybe. Maybe. The V is throwing me Yeah it's not right it doesn't match It doesn't sort of fit So was that a relevant point to bring up? I mean I Let's keep it on this topic let's stay here Let's stay here

Let's explore this further What other letters might be strange for his face Steve yeah there's a TikTok trend I will say Where people go on and say, what do you think my name is? And people comment and then they reveal what their real name is. And then I have people rename them for what? Yes. Yes.

And it's actually really fun to see. Yeah. I'm into this. I like when Joel and I take walks around the reservoir and we pass dogs. We have to name the dog. Pongo. All of them are named Pongo. Pongo.

You know what? We've never named a Pongo, but I really do like that. Yeah, that's nice. So I get it. And I like this trend. Mm-hmm. But I guess we're going to go with Steve. Yeah.

Unfortunately, his name in this is Steve. And before she gets into the car, we see that Steve has an engagement ring. So he's planning to pop the question on this romantic weekend. She gets in the car. They are clearly very much in love. And they're headed out to Eden Lake for the weekend. We they stop at a hotel on the way and they're seeing the clientele at the hotel are a little like here. Let's get some let's get some historical context here so okay i i looked into this there was a term used in this around this time in britain um from like 2007 to

2010 the conservative party used the term broken brit Britain a lot to describe a perceived widespread state of social decay under the under the Labour Party Prime Minister Gordon Brown. So just kind of a political thing that was happening is that they were like saying, oh, this country is like going to shit, broken Britain. And this was also a time of chavs. Have you guys heard of the term chavs no it's like i feel like it was kind of britain's version of jersey shore type of vibe okay yeah yeah but it's a offensive word that was used to describe like essentially poor people it's it's it's like working class Brits. Uh-huh. Like almost like when we say like white trash, like that kind of vibe.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the Chavs would wear, oh, and it's also Chav, I don't know if this is actually how the name originated. There's like a few different ways that this term could have originated but it's often referred to as an acronym for council housed and violent so it's like people that live in public housing and oh lord uh so it's it's this like demonization of poor people as violent criminals and this is just something that was i think in the media a lot

at this time i never never just like us i was gonna say never again and we have nothing no idea what that's like uh-uh um so we're seeing at this hotel some of the other people staying there seem to be of the chav variety and like poorer people uh uh there's a kid that's really screaming and steve says he's about to say that looks like this kid could use a slap you can like tell that that's what he's about to say and but before you can even say it the mom slaps the kid and so we're and then they're like oh oh so and these people are drinking and like yelling at each other and the they're they look like a little steve and jenny look a little out of place here and she's saying like are you sure eden lake is like a nice getaway. And he's like, yeah, yeah, he's familiar with it from his childhood. He's like, at least like it used to be beautiful.

You're going to love it. I swear once we get there, you're going to love it. It's gorgeous. So we continue on the next day and make it to the lake. And it is very beautiful. to the lake and it is very beautiful and as they're walking through this forest it's it's pretty remote and they have to walk through this forest to get to the lake and they pass by a little kid named adam who's a little quiet and strange and they're trying to jenny's trying to i don't know just talk to him because she's a teacher and she loves kids,

but he's being very standoffish. So they don't. Does he have a tongue? Great question. He does have a tongue. Oh, interesting. Already this movie is great. I love it.

We'll see if he keeps his tongue. Oh, God. I love it we'll see if he keeps his tongue oh god so remember that everybody had tongues at the beginning of the movie you're referring to oh no they didn't not everybody not everybody did okay so

they set up their towels and cooler picnic whatever by the lake seeming like they're having a nice time everything's actually turning out pretty well until a group of

teens oh no teens sets up next to them and genuinely teenagers really are horrible they're so horrible so bad yeah they're really even the best of them are so bad there's just nothing to be done and it's a horror it's horrible to be a teenager especially in packs you get like two teens together and oh no i think i talked about this already on the podcast but when i went to see godzilla minus one there was a row of teenagers behind me just being so fucking

obnoxious and someone told them to be quiet and i'm like you can't do that you cannot talk to teens it's that's the thing about teens. A losing battle here. They like it when they make you mad. They are impenetrable. Like, you can't. There is no defense against a group of teens. No.

And they know it. They fucking know it. Wait, did I tell you guys about what the 4th of July party I saw on Long Beach? Did I tell you guys about this? No. there's lots of children because there are no waves whatever fourth of july the teens come out in an actual pack and it was insane it was like 2 p.m like you couldn't see the sand there were so many teens there were so many fucking teens and the craziest part was that there was a long beach police boat like a ship it was all gray like looked like it was about to go into battle, just bobbing right in front of the teens. Clearly, they're all drinking, smoking,

doing whatever the fuck they're doing, like raging, blaring music. Police just bobbing, watching them. Obviously, it's all white kids. So like that probably makes a difference. watching them. Obviously, it's all white kids. So like that probably makes a difference. But I was like, what is going on? There's clearly underage drinking happening. Why aren't you like doing anything about it? Oh, my God. They're so powerful that even the cops. They're so powerful. They're so powerful. Intervene. They are absolutely terrifying. Oh, my God. It was crazy. Well, this isn't that many teens.

It's like six of them, though. But yeah, like we said, even two is too many. Six is a lot, I would say. And they have a vibe similar to what you were just describing. They're blasting music. They have a big Rottweiler dog with them that's barking and not on a leash. And it comes and it's like barking in Jenny's face. It's a pretty scary

dog and they ask them to turn their music down. Oh no. Which you just can't do. You can't do it. You cannot do it. You gotta just leave. You gotta exit the premises. You have

to leave. Oh, there is a moment in the hotel from the night before where the like people in the room next to them are screaming at each other. And Jenny tells Steve, like, can you go tell them to keep it down? And she's kind of joking about it. But then she makes a comment like, are you a man or a mouse and so i think that's maybe spurring some of this steve's mind now that he's gotta stand up for himself and his girlfriend and so he's like i won't be bullied by these teens. But sir, yes, you will. Yes, you will. Yeah, good fucking luck.

You always will. So, of course, you know, they are not turning their music down. They're being little shits. The music is so loud that the main guy played by Jack O'Connell, who I really love Jack O'Connell, but he plays a real shitty teen and he's saying like what can't hear you can't hear your music's too loud bruv bruv bruv so steve gives up obviously defeated he's no match for these teens and they're trying to have a good time but obviously it's the time's ruined this is this is no fun at all i'll describe a little bit of the

other teens so jack o'connell is the main one he his name is brett He's clearly the ringleader, the one they all seem to be kind of deferring to. There's also one girl in the group. Her name is Paige. Now, see, Paige is the right name for the one girl in a group of guys. Yeah, it's interesting. That's right. Every Paige I knew growing up was like a guy's girl. Yeah.

I don't know. Something to think about. Yeah. It's interesting. It it is it's pretty interesting when you think about it uh i don't have the other kids names down except for there's one that looks younger than the rest his name is cooper they're what they're looking at jenny in binoculars just making them uncomfortable and they stay the whole day and they again ruin the whole day and eventually leave and they walk like almost on top of their towels they like walk so close to them as they're leaving and jenny and steve are looking at them And Paige is like You wanna take a photo? It'll last longer

God That was perfect So they're gone And phew they're gone So Steve and Jenny bring out Their fucking tent And I'm like oh my god We're camping

No no no no What? we're camping. No, no, no, no. What? We're camping at this lakeside. So they set up camp. They make their little fire. Oh, no. I'm really not happy to see this. Me either.

It's nighttime now. They're in the tent making out. Then they hear a little noise. Steve goes out to check it out. And we hear a weird noise, like a groaning noise. Oh, God. stop stop it like you're freaking me out and it's quiet for a while and then there's footsteps coming closer to the tent and she's saying you know Steve Steve stop like you're freaking me out tent unzips Steve barges in laughing hi I got you so good okay I. I hate that. That is not okay. I don't like pranks. No. Not when you're camping. And not when you've had such a

day with teenagers. Yeah. Not when they're hostile teens. We'll see who has the last laugh, Steve. Indeed we will. But we make it through the first night okay. Wake up in the morning. Their food, they did not, it seems like they didn't even try to put their food in a food safe container.

It's covered in ants and bugs. So all their food now is ruined. So they got to go into town, which is a couple miles away. They go into a diner to get breakfast. And the waitress, Steve asks the waitress, have you seen this group of kids? We saw them by the lake yesterday. They were a little rowdy. And she laughs it off and is like, oh, yeah, those darn kids. um i don't know i can't remember what he says but like their parents might want to know about this thing that they did or something and uh the waitress gets weirdly defensive about it and she's like they're not my kids and he's like no no i'm not saying that i just like if their parents wanted to know they were

dude i don't know if they were smoking weed or something. He's like trying to tattle on them essentially. And this waitress is not having it. And it's like, they're not my kids. I don't know what you want me to do about it. And it is a really weird encounter. Also fair. I mean, it's a waitress at a diner. Like how would she

as it's supposed to be, this is an extremely small town where this woman would know their parents. I think it is an extremely small town where this woman would know their parents? I think it is a pretty small town. And it's just she goes from laughing and bubbly to like extremely pissed off really quickly. Interesting. And it like sours the rest of their interaction. And it's like the moment of like, oh, we were having a fun convo and now you don't like us anymore. And so it's just a strange

interaction and so they're driving back to the campsite now when they pass the a house where they see one of the kids like walking behind the house so they've tracked down that this is or they see that this is the house so they've tracked down that this is or they see that this is the house of brett steve stops jenny is saying no steve come on steve you idiot it's really quite crazy he walks up to the house knocks on the door nobody answers he opens it and walks in what really crazy move here steve making a lot of mistakes just because she said are you a man or a mouse doesn't mean you go breaking and entering into strange people's houses no i did did Spotify or poker in this scene. Does not come into use, unfortunately, but I've always got an eye out for them. Mm-hmm.

So he goes in and as he's calling out and trying to say, hello, hello, is anybody home? You don't do this. You just simply don't do this. Yeah, you are breaking and entering. Yeah. And as he's deep in the house, a truck pulls into the driveway. Their dad is arriving home. And he's like, oh, shit, shit, shit shit shit and runs upstairs what did he think was

gonna happen to hide i don't know i don't know sorry yeah no it's nuts it's not a good plan and so he's now trying to climb out the window of brett's room you can like see photos. It's this is Brett's room and, uh, outside of the window, Brett and all his shitty little friends are playing in the yard. And so he's got the dad coming up the stairs. Cause he's heard someone, you know,

walking around in the room and he's about to yell at, he's thinking it's Brett. room and he's about to yell it he's think thinking it's brett and steve is dangling himself out of this window to try to get out before the dad gets up there and all the rest of the teens are just out of like 20 feet away from him that if they turn their heads they're gonna see him him and he jumps off the roof makes it back to the car narrowly escaping being caught by anybody okay really even imagine getting myself into that kind of pickle Nope. Nope. So, okay. So now we are driving back to the lake. And is Steve's scuba diving? He's brought scuba gear. That kind of threw me. So he's scuba diving now. What kind of lake is this?

Yeah. It's pretty big, but I wouldn't think there'd be too much to see in it. It's still a lake. It's not, you know. He just loves to swim deep yeah maybe maybe he's practicing for the real thing ah that's a good yeah yeah feels like a pretty weird proposal trip um and he yes as he gets out he's we see him kind of get in the ring and he's saying, it's crazy, the stuff that you can find on the bottom of the lake. I see, that's weird. He's got this interesting proposal plan and he's about to pop the question when Jenny says, where's the beach bag?

She's looking around and their bag is missing steve puts the ring away says what are our our phones and car keys and wallet are in that bag they go they get up they look their car is gone and so now they're kind of running through the forest again to get to the main road and the car almost hits them it's brett is flooring their own car at them truly murder attempt here with their car they like jump out of the way. Then they follow the direction that the car is going. It's getting to be nighttime again. And they track down the group of teens to another part of the lake where they're having a bonfire, blasting music again. They, Steve and Jenny, walk up and say, could we get, we don't want any trouble, man.

Can we just get our bag back? Brett says, well, like, I don't know what you're talking about, mate. It ain't us. Like, you got the wrong person. And he's wearing sunglasses. It's nighttime. Steve says, are those my sunglasses? He's like, nah, mate.

Mine. Oh, my God mine what about their car do they say like we saw you driving our car they don't say that but they're but they're saying like we know that you took our bag just give it back and the dog's barking and tensions are mounting he's just saying come on man just like give us back our bag jenny's saying steve let's just drop it let's just go steve is you know stepping closer to brett saying come on man like just give us our stuff somebody shut that dog up and he's steve is now getting a little bit more in in Brett's face Brett is stepping closer to Steve we're getting in each other's face one of the other kids pulls a knife

like a little switchblade and Steve sees it and like grabs his wrist and is trying to like shake the knife free when the dog jumps and attacks them. And the knife stabs through the dog's jaw, kills the dog. Oh, shit. So it was an accident. But now the dog is dead. Steve is saying, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Give me the car keys back.

I'll drive you guys to the vet right now. Dog's already dead. Oh, shit. He sees the bag. Steve, like, sees the bag somewhere, I think, grabs it. And Brett is crying and screaming, you killed my fucking dog. That's really good, Sammy. It's really good.

And Steve and Jenny make a run for it they grab the bag they see the car and get into it but it's nighttime and they're in the middle of the woods so they're driving fast but it seems so dangerous because he can't see well enough in front of him. And so eventually they crash into a tree and Steve gets barricaded into his seat, like a branch like crashes through the window, basically pinning him into the truck. And so he tells Jenny, he's like, you've got to run, go get help. And she, because the teens are running chasing them like screaming you fuckers fucking assholes and uh so jenny gets out and

she's she runs but they're too close that they'll be able to see her so she hides in some roots and like covers herself up oh god jesus and i guess stays there overnight because it cuts to morning of her coming out of her hiding spot what did she fall asleep i don't i don't know she's like right asleep i'm so comfy in these sticks and leaves and so we didn't see what happened to steve we just cut we just cut and so now she's she's hearing the teens and she's following the sound of their voices this is where i'm starting to yell jenny you dumb bitch go get help like he said what have you been doing sleeping all night? Just kind of a weird decision here on Jenny's part. But she follows the sounds of their voices and she's hidden behind a tree and peering around and seeing all of them.

We've got Steve tied up with barbed wire. He's bleeding. They've clearly been, you know, punching him and he's not looking good. And the teens are in various states of anger and fear. Like some of them are like, we can't do this, man. Come on. This is like too, we're going too far brett and brett and page are the most like pissed off and unwavering in there like no we're like fucking this guy up that's our plan and so the other kids are trying to convince them to let him go brett says the second we let him go

he's calling the cops and we're all gonna be in deep shit so we can't let him go so what's the plan you're gonna kill him teens are also so stupid yeah it's like yeah now what yeah the other kids are trying to leave then if they can't let Steve go and Brett won't let them leave and is saying no we're all in this together and to ensure that oh god he makes each of them stab Steve while he films it Paige films each of the other kids filming or stabbing Steve as blackmail, essentially, to be like, if you don't see through this to the end, you're going to be fucked. So it starts with one of the guys is crying and does like a very small little slice with the knife. And he's like, no mate that's not enough and like makes them like really stab him where jenny's jenny's watching this first in the arm someone stabs him in the leg and then the last one the the youngest guy cooper is really

crying and like really doesn't want to do it and for some reason he has a box cutter instead like one of the guys pulls out a box cutter and is like also not hesitating about it there's a um yeah one guy that doesn't seem to be too worried about stabbing him he pulls out his own box cutter gives cooper the box cutter and they're just like yelling at it, Cooper, come on, come on, you have to stab him. Oh my God. Cooper stabs him in the mouth. What? In the open mouth. What?

Why? Really shocking. I just didn't see that coming. What? As he's like crying, Yeah, he's like not happy about it, but it's like, Cooper, why'd you choose that spot? Really crazy,

but he's clearly like very panicked and so now we're all in it. There's no good way out of this. Jenny is watching all of this happen. She stands there while he's stabbed

four times. I'm yelling, Jenny, what the fuck are you doing? Go get help. She does something that I don't quite understand, which is she has one of the phones and he,

Steve has his phone, I i guess they each have their phones and she like connects to his phone using bluetooth to call 999 which i don't i don't know why like maybe she didn't have reception i think there's probably a reason this happens and it just didn't make sense to me okay um so she's trying to call 999 from his phone but it rings and brett sees it and says like oh bluetooth connection like she's here somewhere like everybody spread out and like go try to find her she runs they all run after her they're on they get on bikes and so they see her running and they're chasing her on bikes and it doesn't seem good she's not going to obviously be able to outrun them and she kind of jumps on this little hill and throws a branch in front of them, causing them all to crash.

They're all going pretty fast, so that's good. She gets a little bit of a gap to run from them. And she makes it to a clearing where there's a park ranger service station type thing. Nobody's there, but there's a walkie-talkie inside of this little station. And so she's trying to get into there to get to the walkie-talkie, but the room is locked. She's trying to like squeeze in between the chain on the door, but it's too small. She can't reach the walkie-talkie and now the kids are back chasing her again and she is able to hide from them by climbing on top of this little service station i don't know how she did it without them noticing but she did so they don't

they don't know where she is now they've they've lost her and they continue on to go look for her so she's um able to gather her gather herself uh but meanwhile steve has been left alone and he is able to break free from the barbed wire. He's bloodied, stabbed, like bleeding from his mouth and all the stab wounds. And he makes it back to their car where they crashed. And there's a first aid kit in the back. And so he grabs that. He grabs a tire iron as a weapon. Pretty good weapon he you know

sits down next to a tree and starts tending to his wounds and then one of the teens comes back to where he was tied up sees that he's not there calls brett and says he's fucking gone they're like we have to find him everyone like run and fight like spread out see where they we need to find them both they cannot get out of here now Jenny's running

what she thinks is the opposite direction that's the other thing is like it's the woods so and she doesn't she's unfamiliar with this territory and and so who's to say what direction the road is it's very hard to orient yourself and so she's running just where she thinks she should run and she's running very fast and we see one of the teenagers uh running looking for steve and steve is like hearing him running and as these footsteps turn the corner steve just swings that

tire iron so hard and it's jenny but he doesn't he doesn't hit her thank god okay but he almost almost it does and but now they're they're together and he's like great where's the help you called he had that thing i told you to do hours and hours ago seem you did seem to use your phone to do something and it it wasn't to call for help she's like sorry i took a little nap she She's like, I was so tired. You get it. I just took a little nap. I was really tired. So she's, you know, helping carry him. They're kind of limping away and they find a little shack on the water. They go inside. this is a very dilapidated shack barely standing and she locks the door behind them which made made me laugh because it's just like essentially looks like you could blow this little shack down the huff and puff and blow it right down yeah but so they're in there i think

they have the first aid kit and she pulls back his shirt to see his wounds. So I think one of them stabbed him in the in the side as well. And it looks really bad. It's like black blood. And he sees it and is like, fuck, fuck, fuck. He's like, I'm I'm dying. Like, I'm dying. I'm bleeding out.

I'm dying. Oh, God. And she's like, no, you're not. you're not you're not i need you to like stay with me and she's bandaging him up best as she can but it does look like a really extremely deep stab wound and he's losing consciousness a bit like he's losing a lot of blood and as she's wrapping him she finds the engagement ring in his pocket she feels it and pulls it out and he says you know i thought we would maybe go to africa for our honeymoon and you know they just have this moment of of crying and she puts the ring on and she's like no like we're still gonna do that like you just stay with me oh we

hear the teens approaching and they say something like in that's seeming like we're fucked there's like nowhere for them to go but the teens open the door to the shack and it's empty and we see that they have essentially popped one of the floorboards up and gone underneath the shack into the lake and so it's like at the um shallow you know edge of the edge of the lake but they're in this like nasty fucking water now like to think about these open wounds in a lake and he's definitely losing conscious like going in and out of consciousness she's holding his head above water but he keeps like slumping down this is so sad

there's like a tense moment of one of the kids feet crashes through the floor board because again this place is very rickety and it seems like they're gonna look under there but then they don't so the teens

leave like okay we gotta keep looking keep looking for him they run away so now jenny drags steve onto the shore again it's like muddy filthy ew ew ew. I don't like it when things get dirty. I just don't. Yeah. Don't like that. And she, she, he's still clinging on to life, but just barely. And she covers him up with branches and she says, like, I'm gonna go get help. I need you to

Oh, now you're gonna go get help? Yeah, now's not the best time. Best time would have been, I don't know, last night while you were sleeping for some reason? Yeah, what the fuck? I can't get over that part. Yeah, I don't really understand it. Maybe it was like not as much time.

Maybe she passed out or maybe she like hit her head or something. Maybe she hit her head. Maybe she passed out or maybe it was like three in the morning to four in the morning and maybe it was it was like the sun is coming up i don't know i don't know but okay regardless even while they're just all stabbing him that that could have been a good time to go away for help as well yeah yeah yeah i would have liked that so at some point he steve had told her to follow the power lines we can see some power lines above he says you should be able to like follow those to some sort of smart people will um be at the end and so she's just running as fast as she fucking can along these power lines and we see a big pointy

rock in the foreground right in her path and of course she her foot plunges on it it goes straight through she screams so loud

all the teens can hear it she's screaming and screaming and screaming i'm saying shut the fuck up oh my god up jenny greengrass jenny uh so now all the teens they're they're in the they're far enough away that they're not like right there, but they're all running in her direction now. And she tumbles down this little hill and finds a little spot to hide. She, by the way, started off in this cute little sundress, floral, brightly colored sundress that is now absolutely filthy, disgusting, muddy. She's muddy. Muddy and bloody.

And she's trying to pull this rock out of her foot. Oh, it's in her foot still. Yes. Oh. Because of the shape of the rock, she can't pull it down the way that it came like because she has to keep going yep so she has to pull it out the top of her foot holy shit that is a sharp pointy rock yeah it almost looks like an arrowhead or something i don't know if it's something to do with the um ranger station or something but it's oof it looks extremely painful

and she's not being quiet about it still and i'm getting angry but she gets it out and she keeps running you know impressive it must hurt a lot and she runs into adam the kid from the beginning who's probably about 12 she's looks terrifying now and she's like adam please it's like i need help adam looks really scared it's like oh my god what she's like please take me to take me to i like i need to talk to your mom no you need to talk to the police he's like he says his mom is is picking him up and she's like no we should be just roaming through the woods days in a row i don't know and she tells him i feel like we should be following the the power lines because he's walking down a weird little path and he tells her no no this is a shortcut

this is a shortcut we're getting don't believe him not good vibes no and she's getting suspicious and is saying adam where are you taking me are you sure your mom's coming here what are how is she gonna get here he has a phone and she's trying to grab it from him he says it doesn't have service it doesn't have service but then it rings and she's again trying to grab it from him but then the teens arrive adam has called them adam and there's some mention of him like wanting to be in their crew and he needs to do some sort of initiation thing to prove himself to be able to hang with them. She's panicking and tries to turn and run, but one of the teens

is behind her and punches her, knocks her out, cut to black. Oh, Jesus Christ. Here we go. We all knew this was gonna happen. Yeah. So now she wakes up tied up covered in branches and twigs like in a in a bonfire type arrangement

uh steve is tied up behind her he is is dead. Oh, yeah. Oh. And they are pouring gasoline all over both of them. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This escalated so badly. Really badly. This is why you can't ask teens to turn down the music. Never do it. Cautionary tale.

You really can't do it. You really can't. It's not worth it. It's not worth the post. They will literally light you on fire. They're going to light you on fire. If you ask a teen to turn down the music, they're going to light you on fire. So, again, Paige is filming all of this to, because now some of the, even the ones that have already been filmed

stabbing him are again saying, we can't do this. This is crazy. We need to let her go. She's alive, man. We can't fucking burn her alive. Paige is filming it saying, this is happening.

We're all implicated. This is the only option. And they make Adam light the match. Oh, my God. This is his initiation thing, and they make him light them on fire. Adam, you really want to be friends with these guys? Yeah. No, Adam, come on.

So it goes up in flames. Steve goes up in flames first. They're all gagging at the smell of it but in the fire it because it starts on the side steve is it i don't know loosens or burns some of her restraints in a way that she's able to break free and she just fucking runs. Brett calls out after her. If you run, I'm going to kill Adam. What? Jenny keeps running.

She's. Yeah. I'm sorry, but I would try to light her on fire. Yeah. Yeah. So sorry, Adam. And Brett starts pouring gasoline on Adam. What the fuck?

Puts a tire over his neck and lights him on fire. And Jenny sees this. She throws up. But she keeps running. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's no helping.

Oh, Adam. That is so sad. Fuck. Brett is really bad. Really bad bad really bad a really bad teen brett is really bad she finds this clearing where there's like a map of you know like a um at the trailhead type thing there's a map of the whole forest she smashes the glass pulls the map out so she can figure out where the fuck she is and uh she hears them approaching again they're they're chasing after her she turns and looks for a hiding place and sees a i don't know what even it essentially just looks like a trash can filled with shit I feel like

it's some sort of like I don't know shit shit trash can sure no other way to say it I don't know what it is because it's like just kind of freestanding in the middle

right next to this trailhead seems like a weird place to put that like you think it's like a sewage thing but it looks like above ground and not connected to anything so it's like where people it's as if it would be like where people dispose of dog poop but it's a human-sized filled with shit um receptacle so jenny dives right in there god bless her closes the top is covered head to toe and shit and the descent music is blaring. And she's got her like little eyes poking out of the shitty water. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is this is even like the descent, the scene where she comes out of the blood. I'd rather come out of blood than shit. It's shit and adolescent boys instead of cave monsters. I don't see much of a difference.

True. And so they see that she's gotten the map. They like are hot on her trail, but they don't, they don't find her in the shit bucket and they keep moving. And she gets out and goes over to all the broken glass from where the map was. And rips part of her dress off to make a little handle. And finally makes this weapon.

I'm thinking, yes. Good girl, Jenny. I love to see it. And as she's got her weapon, there's a little mirror on this trailhead thing that says the most dangerous animal in the forest it's a mirror showing us that it's it's man and in this case jenny looking real bad really bad covered in shit and we see cooper approaching looking like so upset he really does not want to be in this situation and he sees her and he calls out to her and says miss and we're thinking like he's he's gonna help her

and she just turns around and stabs him in the neck kills him oh my dead fucking god well yeah i mean she just saw them light a kid on fire who was alive yeah and she did see this kid stab her fiance in the mouth in the mouth yeah so uh and as cooper's dying he's really coughing and coughing and coughing and i'm like everyone needs to shut the fuck up in this movie and so the other teens hear it, obviously, and she runs and it's getting dark now. They find Cooper's body. They're furious, calling out, we're gonna fucking kill you, bitch. You already were. This is kind of an empty threat at this point.

You can't escalate past lighting me on fire. Yeah. Yep. I get it. You're gonna kill me. i know yeah that's why i'm running and she because she has the map she's able to more efficiently run out to the road and a car is approaching she runs in front of the car it stops it's like a guy in his 20s It stops.

It's like a guy in his 20s. And he's like, oh, my God. Like, are you OK? And she's panicking, looks insane, saying, I need to get to town. I need to get in town. Need help. And he says, OK, OK, come in, come in. And they start driving.

And she's like, town's the other way. You need to go back the other direction. And he's like, yeah, I'm going to go back. But my little brother's out here and like he's not answering his he's not answering his phone like i gotta i gotta find him i think he's up here like and we have a meeting spot where if i if his phone dies i have to get him at this meeting spot jenny's of course putting two and two together looking nervous but being quiet about it. And they pull up to this meeting spot and out comes Brett and the other, you know, Paige and the other teens. And the older brother gets out of the car and walks over to them like, Mom's so mad.

Like, what are you doing? And Jenny just slips right into that driver's seat. There we go. Turns the car around, floors it. I'm thinking if I was like, if I were her, I might have fucking stabbed that guy. And just been like,

get out of the car. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Nice that she didn't have to. Nice that she didn't have to, but she is flooring it and Paige like is runs like in front of the car to like stop her and she plows through Paige. Yeah, man. Paige dead. And she drives and drives and drives until she comes to a house where a big party's happening there's like 30 or so people having a party and she just like gets out of the car runs like drops to her knees in the middle of this fun looking party and is like somebody help me

this fun looking party. And it was like, somebody help me. Oh my God. Everybody turns, looks, music stops. Oh my God.

Everyone runs to her. These women are, are like get her on the couch and are like wiping her off, like trying to calm her down. And I am so anxious about whose house this is. I happened. Why would you stop driving? You gotta get the fuck out of here.

Get away from all these people. I know, I know. You probably just killed some of these people's children. Yeah, that's would have been a good thought to have. Oh no. Cause sure enough as she's kind of looking around the house, we see pictures of Brett on the walls. Oh, my God.

We're back in Brett's house. I hate this. I hate this. And one of the women helping her looks a lot like Paige, but older. lot like paige um but older and she uh sees brett's dad that we saw earlier and he's getting a phone call and he's going what what slow down what what happened tell me what happened no and and she sits up and tells the women that are helping her, I need to go to the bathroom. And they show her where the bathroom is. And she goes into the bathroom.

She gets, there's like a straight razor in there. She grabs that. There's no window in this bathroom. She's like looking for any escape. There's nothing. So she just braces her as she's hearing yelling now happening and like a scream happening like oh my god what oh my god and like crying happening outside the door oh my god then there's like banging on the door like

get out here get the fuck out here she. She's just standing there with the razor as they break the door down. Brett is now there and one of the other kids, I think, too. And it's clear that they've told all the adults here that Paige is dead, that Cooper is dead. Jenny starts yelling like they they killed my they killed my my boyfriend they killed steve they killed steve brett's dad is saying they told me all about steve what he did to the kids and like i know what they

did i know what your boyfriend did so clearly they've they've lied to cover their tracks and so we've got footage though although maybe it died with page yeah and everyone's freaking out and one of the moms i think it's page page's mom is like sobbing and saying, they're just children. They're children. And Jenny is taking this in. She is a teacher. We've seen that she previously would have thought to protect all children. But she now knows better. Now knows better now knows better the dad is hitting brett now and being

like how could you let this happen we're seeing some abuse abuse happening there he brett's dad is saying like we can't we can't call the cops like we have to deal with this ourselves otherwise our kids are like gonna be in jail or like we can't let this get out jenny's screaming like what are you talking about like call the police call the police brett's dad says brett go upstairs close the door as he like grabs jenny jenny swipes her little straight razor like slices his arm and falls to the ground i'm like jenny oh my god no more weapon as she's being pulled back into the bathroom we just hear screaming and now we're following brett as he walks into his room closes the door we hear screaming, screaming.

He pulls out the phone. Deletes all the videos. Delete, delete, delete, delete. Pulls out the Steve's sunglasses that he stole. Puts them on. Looks at himself in the mirror with this kind of blank expression. That's the end of the movie. Oh my fucking god.

I hated it. I hated it. You're right. I'm in a cold sweat right now. Just a cold sweat. That's a really interesting ending, though, because it does make him seem like a child. Yeah, it does. It really does. And that, of of course he comes from an abusive home

because a child wouldn't do that if they didn't but it's also like he made a made children stab a man and he also lit people on fire so he's really unforgivable shit but at the end of the day he's just a kid who like wanted sunglasses and got way out of hand because you're stupid because you're so fucking stupid when you're a teen that's what i really like about this movie is just like a situation just escalating and escalating and escalating feels so possible like this is i like a horror movie that is possible like yeah this could happen and like moment to moment these you know teens make really stupid decisions all the time without realizing the stakes and if they like keep getting put in higher and higher stakes situations and all they're trying to do is like get moment to moment

because that's the only thing teenagers can do is like think about like oh well it's just what are you right now yeah and you would just like keep like that feeling of like we're in it now you have to we have to kill them like we have to kill them or something else to do because you're too stupid to realize like you could actually just not kill them yes and it would be a lot better than if you continue to move forward and kill them yeah i remember when I was in high school, having this escalating situation, not to this degree, obviously. Thank God. But it was me and a friend,

and we were playing a game where it was like a variation of hide and seek, I guess. And somehow it ended with one of us. I think she locked me outside and then it just got like mean and she wouldn't let me back in. And we were like seeing each other through the sliding door. And I saw that her stuff was outside where I was and my stuff was inside where she was. And so we just started fucking ruining each other's shit. I like grabbed her textbooks and was like ripping pages out of her textbooks and like ripping her backpack.

And she was ripping all of my shit. And we're both like sobbing. And I like just escalated to this like horrible level that ended with me calling my mom and be like pick me up like i want to come home all my stuff is ruined yeah the fact that you wouldn't have thought to call your mom before you guys started ruining each other's stuff like it's kind of the point that it yeah when you're a teenager you're like you are a hormone monster you truly are you're like you don't you have no lived experience you are fully just emotion and like physical discomfort yep and that is the only thing driving you oh god how fucking scary holy shit that said I did I did enjoy this

movie I will say that it was surprising for sure I did not see that ending coming yeah it is surprising I kind of did see the ending coming only because I had heard that this movie is like feel bad bad bad so I was like well it's not

gonna have a we're not gonna have a happy ending here because I had heard that this movie is like feel bad, bad, bad. So I was like, well, it's not going to happen. We're not going to have a happy ending here. And but I will say that as far as the broken Britain messaging here, I feel like this is not really the like maybe a little problematic. Yeah. Like I feel like it just is heaping on this demonization of working. Like, yeah, they are this bad. We should feel this way. Look at them.

Right. They'll fucking kill you in the woods. Yeah. Right. Like working class people as like dangerous, violent. More movies like Funny Games where it's the rich people who are. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. I take it back. I don't want it. I don't want more. So as far as like Broken Britain themed horror movies Attack the Block did it better Attack the Block did it better God I can't wait for Attack the Block 2

Holy shit I know I want it So That's Eden Lake This was not fun No no no, no. It was feel bad.

Feel bad for sure. Feel bad for sure. And yeah, kind of a weird one to pair with the announcement of the troubled teen docuseries. I know. I know. It is actually. I was thinking about that. Well, I mean, I think I actually think it does sort of tie in because it feels like what the ending of this movie lets us know is how vulnerable teenagers are because it is such a

volatile time in life for everybody i hated being a teenager i was awful i was oh it was a really dark time and the answer is not to abuse your kids obviously the answer is not to send your kids away because it's it's this like deeply deeply vulnerable time because you are you have the brain of a child but all of a sudden you're like becoming an adult you're like treated by the outside world as an adult in many ways you like want to fuck people and that you're not like not ready for that it's like yeah it's so precarious the fact that like any of us survive that we all have to if you're going to become an adult and it you can see how easy it is for shit to go like really wrong and we need as scary as teens are we gotta do it we gotta do a better job with them so that they'll be less scary.

Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day, it's the adult's responsibility to be the good, you know, set a good standard for the teens. And you can't just ship teens away. Obviously, nothing good happens when teens are in the woods. So let's not shift. I think importantly. I was talking to my friend that has a teenage daughter, almost two teenage daughters.

One of them's 12. One of them's 15. And it's been a tough time for him. And he said some advice that he got was to make yourself always available for your kids without telling them that you are, just like being there, but you have to be visible and invisible at the same time because they like want nothing to do with you,

but they will want to like know that it's safe that you're there and that it's safe and so you do they are gonna act out and that's like normal teenage behavior and you have to accept that that's part of it i mean i i guess i won't pretend to know how to raise a teenager it sounds extremely hard but that's part of it. I mean, I guess I won't pretend to know how to raise a teenager. It sounds extremely hard, but... That's so scary. Oh, my God. I just got... I started like hyper ventilating. I don't have children. And I just was like, oh, God. Oh, no. Oh, God. How do you do it? Henley, are you okay? I feel like I'm just going to be in denial that it'll happen to me until it happens. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to be like... And by then you'll have been a parent for, you know, that many more years. Maybe it'll be okay. i mean like i'm gonna be like a parent for you know that many

more years maybe it'll maybe it'll be okay and then obviously it won't be but um yeah i think that also just putting yourself in situations where you can communicate without looking at each other so like driving walking doing any kind of activities where you're like be willing to embarrass them i think by like giving them educational books about like... I had this book that my parents gave me about bodies that I was like, ugh, don't, ew, shut up. But I would read that book all the time.

That's so funny. But yeah, just being like, you got to embarrass them a little bit for their benefit. And somehow just not take anything personally just never take it personally yes that's an important that is hard that is hard they're gonna say really mean stuff they are so mean they are so mean and you can't hold it against them most importantly just simply never tell them to turn their music down. Never tell them to turn their music down. We are joking, but also kind

of not. It's not worth it. Just let them play their music really loud. Let them play their music. Let them have it, you know? It's a hard time. just let them play their music too loud. Yep. Holy moly. I have a lot to think about. I have a lot. We've learned an important lesson here today

oh wow teens are scary but they are children and they are going to play their music at the volume they want it's the least we can it's the least we can do for them yeah you know yep yep um okay and i can't believe I forgot to tell you guys something really important which is that James Watkins, the director of this movie, is going to be directing the Speak No Evil remake.

Oh my god, they were doing that. Man, so this guy likes to feel bad, huh? He really likes to have a very bad time. He's good at making us feel bad. I hate him. And that's why we love him. I mean, I guess know your strengths, you know?

Yeah. I knew that I shouldn't have been too excited about there being so many tongues in this movie. All properly attached. Yeah, he was like, there might be tongues now, but later. You just wait, bitch. They're going. That was his biggest note after doing this movie. He was like, there might be tongues now, but later... You just wait, bitch. They're going. That was his biggest note after doing this movie. He was like, wait a minute. Get rid of the tongues.

Too many tongues. I stabbed inside a mouth, but the tongue stayed puss. That's true. The tongue remained. That was a mistake. I... Were I to do it again, I would take that tongue right out. Oh my God. I'm very curious about the remake because the cast is very good but also American

remakes tend to be unnecessary. Is it for never happening? Is it like in production? Yes. It's a strange choice. Yes. It's supposed to come out this year. Oh my god. Remind us of the cast of that remake? James McAvoy, Mackenzie Davis, and Scoot McNary. Whoa.

Alright. So okay. That is interesting. McAvoy, Mackenzie Davis, and Scoot McNary. Whoa. Alright, so okay, that is interesting. But I feel like because Speak No Evil has such a, there's part of the significant part of the plot is their language barrier and cultural

differences and these are all British. You know, it's going to be all English speaking. So I hope that they are at least have some culture differences like one of the families is from Canada or British or something because I feel like that's a huge part of it is that they're like, oh, they're just different from us because, well, I mean,

I guess. Right. They have to be like, Oh, they do things differently in Canada, which they do. Sure. They do.

They do not care better. Not that differently. All I got to say is I don't want to sit through that shit again. I know. No, we're not doing it. We will not be doing it. It's funny.

Cause it's like I feel like I want to do it, but it's also going to be the same movie again. Same movie. I mean, you can see it. Maybe we can do a little mini I can tell you the differences. Well, you can watch it and you can say whether it's worth

doing. Yeah. And if it's worth doing, I'll fucking do it. I'll do it, you guys. Oh my god, Henley. True, if they change a lot of stuff, then yeah, we're gonna have to do it. If they cut out more tongues, we'll have to do it. Yeah. More tongues,

more stonings, like, yeah, let's, in that case, let's do it. Man. So yeah, we have that to look forward to wow okay huge news hate to hate to see it what are you gonna do um i'm gonna try to forget about all of this instantly me too that's my same same same rest of the gone poof even Lake never heard of it. Wowzer.

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