Too Scary; Didn't Watch - EVENT HORIZON with Evan Sinclair

Episode Date: September 25, 2019

Black holes, missing eyes, and the worst possible orgy imaginable - we're recapping Paul Anderson's (not that Paul Anderson) 1997 film Event Horizon. Evan Sinclair joins us to talk about this truly traumatizing haunted vessel movie. Full disclosure: Though it is about a vessel, this movie is NOT Titanic. Welcome to hell. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I am Emily, as always, scared as ever. I'm Henley and I'm a goddamn scaredy cat. I'm Sammy and I am very, very brave. Hell yeah. Here we are once again in a new week back at it. I think I know the scariest thing that happened to us all this past week. Oh my god. What was it? It was when a ghost ruined our last recording.

Oh, it did. That was deeply upsetting. Guys, we had the fabulous Betsy Sedaro on. We will have her back. She is a spectacular person and guest. She told us a ghost movie and then ghosts fucked up our audio. There's no other.

There's no two ways about it. Yeah, it was pretty spooky. It was spooky and upsetting. And we really went through the stages of grief on that one. We really did. Yeah, we had denial. We had denial at first. We had anger.

And eventually acceptance. Because, yep, that's where you have to end up is acceptance. And I can't wait to have Betsy back. And let's see. Did anything else scary happen to either of you this week? A scary thing that happened to me was I got more drunk than I intended to at a strip club on a Monday night. Yeah, I would say being at a strip club on a Monday night is not something I would recommend to the listeners. Being at a strip club on a Monday night is not something I would recommend to the listeners. Can I just one up this by saying that not only did I get too drunk, but I also ran into my neighbor who was a stripper there.

And she invited me over and told me that she was growing bok choy in her garden now. And also had a swimming pool, which I don't know how that works. That's exciting. All the love and support for strippers. I think they're fabulous. That's why we were there, because we love them so much.

And we saw the movie Hustlers, which we also loved so much. And I would say one of the scariest things that happened to me this week was at the end of Hustlers, I started crying and thought I would never stop. You were really moved by it.

It was a good movie. It was so good. I did not expect to be emotionally moved in that way and it was just like tears wouldn't stop falling out of my eyes. I didn't like feel like I was still crying but like I did worry that I would not stop. Yes. I did eventually. I would not stop I did eventually

That's how I was with the nightingale Big criers Big criers on the podcast It really was scary because I looked around me and nobody else was having The same emotional response So that's really when I wondered what was going on with me But it was a great film

A film, I'll call it a film. It was definitely a film. It was a great film. And then didn't you ride home on a scooter? I did ride home on a scooter which was not the scariest part of my week. It was the fucking highlight. I love a scooter. I love a scooter. I was against

them like we all have to be when we first are introduced to the idea of scooters. I got on it for the first time a few weeks ago and you know what they're so fucking fun they are so fun scoot responsibly everyone um they are definitely a danger to ourselves in society but boy is it a fun time um well speaking of films yes this week's film is a doozy. This week we're talking about Event Horizon. Came out in 1997.

Directed by Paul Anderson. Not Paul Thomas Anderson. It's very funny. The other Paul Anderson. You know, the other Paul Anderson. Written by Philip Eisner. Starring Sam Neill, Lawrence Fishburne, Kathleen Quinlan, Jolie Richardson, and Jason Isaacs.

What a cast. Yeah, great cast. And here to talk about it with us is my friend, a writer, a big Dave and Buster's fan, Evan Sinclair. Dave and Buster's rocks. Hi, everybody. Hi, Evan. evan sinclair and busters rocks hi everybody thank you for having me i'm excited to talk about event horizon we're so excited wait so tell us how do you feel about scary movies generally do you like them do you love them i'm not like those people who are obsessed like people who go to rite aid and the second they see anything Halloween they're

like I gotta buy oh yeah we know those Halloween heads the Halloween queens I'm not that but I love scary movies that are typically disturbing I love really what a thing to love those are the ones those are the ones that I definitely don't like when you say disturbing what does that mean to you if the best way to give an example would. When you say disturbing, what does that mean to you? The best way to give an example would be movies that are disturbing. And I'll tell you the ones that are my favorites. Anything by David Cronenberg. So like Videodrome makes you feel horrible.

It's called a horror movie by some people, but not. But I'll put it in there. David Lynch's Blue Velvet. Another movie that's horrifying. It makes you feel terrible. You just like to feel dead feel dead inside no it's like the most alive i feel it's like my version of cutting is like i want to feel something um funny my version of cutting is instagram so disturbing like all hope is lost for the universe type deal or i think like personally disturbing things are happening to you like hereditary like michael henneke's funny games ari aster's

hereditary like when uh roman plancy's rosemary's baby is another one that's it's not like scary there's not a lot of jump scares that stuff like it's kind of cheap like jump scares really like yeah you can do them once and anything after that is just kind of like it's cheap yeah but if you can really like get a script that's good and if you get actors that just make you feel like the baba duke you feel horrible for weeks and that's the best oh wow that's the kind of stuff but i don't do it a lot it's it's really sparse yeah that sounds exhausting to do a lot so do you have like a limit where you're like, I can take one of these every few months? How often? How often are you talking?

It's not like a time thing, but I will say as I've grown older and now I have a one-year-old baby, I do have a limit with certain things. Like, okay. Like baby stuff, probably? Like baby stuff. Like Rosemary's baby. For some reason, when we had Goldie, my daughter um there's a lot of time where you have a lot of free time and she would sleep and when she's i hear that about having a baby yeah

well that is true that in the beginning they do sleep a lot so right you're right it's yes i have i have i don't know why i'm here right now this is a bad idea she's in the car so um but when they're sleeping a lot because they sleep upwards of like 18 hours a day so there's a lot of times where you're really just sitting there and then they get up throughout the night so i took that time to watch a lot of movies while my wife slept and goldie slept and for some reason i was like oh i never got to see mother and now mother's free on hulu oh mother has a bad bad baby scene and so the whole without getting into it mother essentially has a scene where jennifer lawrence is like earth and mother earth and she's pregnant throughout the whole film and in my mind i'm

thinking surely nothing will happen to the baby anything something will happen oh god she gives birth the baby oh god meanwhile i have you like two week old in the other room. And I'm dealing with anxieties and fears I never even knew could happen. Oh, no. This is worst case scenario. And there's a scene. And can I spoil it? Yes.

Spoil it. Spoil it. Spoiler alert. They birth the baby. She falls asleep because she's holding it, wakes up and it's out of her arms. And this weird cultish type people who have moved into her home have taken the baby. We see it essentially like a crowd surfed, peeing,

scared, covered in blood. Then its head snaps back and you see a group of people eat the baby. What? It's so fucked up. It's real crazy. This is worst case scenario. This is the first movie I watched oh my god i can't believe it went there i feel like completely insane like the last

act i thought the person next to me in the movie theater was about to kill me because i was so like out of touch with reality by the end of the movie i like was sitting next to like a woman that came in just for the last 10 minutes of the movie. What? I remember you talking about this. And I was like, no one in their right mind would just come in for the last 10 minutes of this movie. She's here to kill me.

Like she's. And she's right next to you. She sat right next to me in a pretty much empty theater. I mean, she definitely was there to kill you. Sammy, that is strange. It was fucking terrifying. I was like, well, I'm going to die in this movie. It was so weird.

That was one of the weirdest like states of mind I've ever been in was watching Mother. You should try having a baby and not sleeping for almost 48 hours and then watching the last part of Mother. Yeah, that sounds worse. But for some reason that movie started this bizarre path for me of putting on movies that had kids dying

in them. Just like coincidentally. And I wasn't doing it on purpose. I was like, and also too, it was around Halloween. So I'm like, I'm going to watch a couple it on purpose I was like okay and also too is around Halloween so I'm like I'm gonna watch a couple scary movies I watched hereditary had no clue don't spoil it because we'll do that one eventually sorry I got a little smile on my face

the long and short is I kept selecting these movies that I thought I would read the description and it's like six no dead babies six women go spelunking in a cave how could anything happen and it started this is an actual movie started with a flashback

flashback scene of a family getting impaled by poles in a car accident what the fuck I mean I think the problem here Evan is the genre I thought you were going to say my daughter your daughter you can't enjoy movies anymore I mean, I think the problem here, Evan, is the genre. I thought you were going to say my daughter.

Your daughter! You can't enjoy movies anymore. She's a massive buzzkill. Do you have a child that's really killing your buzz? Or are you just really scared to hear about Event Horizon? Either way, you'll be happy to hear that it's time for another Cocktail Hour. This week's cocktail is called Poke Your Eye Out. This is a real cocktail that exists and could not be more perfect for this movie,

which will become very clear very soon. To make a Poke Your Eye Out, you'll need 1 1⁄2 oz. Blanco Tequila, 1⁄2 oz. Mezcal, 3⁄4 oz. Aperol, 1⁄2 oz. Sweet Vermouth, 1⁄2 oz. maraschino liqueur, two dashes orange bitters, one rinse green chartreuse, and a orange peel twist for garnish. Rinse your cocktail glass with the green chartreuse, stir the rest of the ingredients

over ice, and strain straight up into your cocktail glass. Now sit back and enjoy your poke your eye out because where we're going, we don't need eyes. Okay, guys. Event Horizon 1997. I got some sick trivia to share with you guys. Is everyone ready? Ready. Ready. Okay.

The spacesuits worn by the actors weighed 65 pounds Oh my god I love stuff like that Why? Don't you love that? Lawrence Fishburne got so Fucking pissed about it and like screamed At the director at one point

And was like was basically Like what the fuck dude you did this to me How dare you Larry let him me how dare you larry let him have it can you imagine being yelled at by lawrence fishburne that would be fucking terrifying yeah i wouldn't like that um this is just a little educational tidbit for everyone um for our science fans in the audience um so the event horizon was named after the theoretical boundary surrounding a black hole within which gravitational attraction is so great that nothing, not even radiation, can escape because

the escape velocity is greater than the speed of light. Technically, it is where the physical universe ends and physical laws no longer apply. So, the ship's name is symbolic for its journey beyond the borders of the known universe. Space is so scary. space is so scary i will not watch movies that take place in space they're really really scary i don't like it at all um i'm i'm interested that this movie is not very highly reviewed critics do not love it even though i've heard good things from friends who like films of this i thought it was good um i looked up uh i pulled up around tomatoes 27 pretty low that's very low that seems like rude it seems rude i think it's rude and the first review on their

like critic like top top critic reviews um it just says the pits. I hate Rotten Tomatoes because it gives you a fine line between like actual reviewers and people who are like snarky like that. Yeah. It's like, fuck you, dude. Don't tell me what I'm supposed to love. The next one, though, is Climax follows Climax until the weary viewer wants to cry. Stop already. But you know what?

That's one that I'm like, I think I will feel that way. Yeah. I mean, I get that one. I was pretty exhausted by the end. I was just so scared. Wow. Okay. Well, I feel like we should watch the trailer.

Let's watch it. You guys are going to hate it. We're going to hate it so much. After seven years in deep space. 18 people on board this ship when it disappeared. I want them all accounted for. Opening outer door.

It came back abandoned. Any crew? Negative. This place is a tomb. But it didn't come back alone this ship has been beyond the boundaries of our universe who knows where it's been and what it's brought back with it i have such one thing to show you. That doesn't even show anything.

It barely scrapes the surface. The trailer paints it as kind of just like an action movie. I feel like I would be fucking pissed if I saw that trailer and then went to see the movie and it was as horrifically violent as it appears that I've heard that it is. Because that trailer was just like like it definitely is like creepy. Another little trivia that I forgot to mention is that the first cut was so absolutely gruesome and terrible that they forced him to do another cut

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I'll start by doing the character names so we know who we're talking about. Great. So Sam Neill is Dr. William Weir. Lawrence Fishburne is Captain Miller. Kathleen Quinlan is Peters, the med tech. Julie Richardson is Lieutenant Stark. Richard T. Jones is Cooper.

Jack Noseworthy is Justin. Jason Isaacs is DJ. And Sean Pertwee, Smith. So those names we'll be using a lot. And you'll get to know them as we talk about them. Our friends. Our best friends.

All right. So how does it start? Where are we at? This movie is very special to me. Yes. And I will tell you why. Tell us why. Tell us why.

Because in the year 1997, I was 11 years old. And I was hanging out with my mom and all my brothers were out of town. And she said, Evan, do you want to go see a movie? I said, okay. And do you remember in 1997 when there weren't things like youtube and you couldn't watch trailers yes you had to go by like magazine ads or you had to go by like i saw a blip of a commercial on tv so my mom goes what's out in the theaters i go i don't know but there's this one oh no to event horizon and she goes oh look it

it's the guy from jurassic park yeah and it's lawrence Fishburne Cowboy Curtis from Pee Wee's Playhouse and it's directed by the guy who did Mortal Kombat that other thing you love and I said I think this is the perfect movie for a year old me and mom to go see oh no I was so fucking horrified when I saw this movie like I had a pit in my throat I thought

I was gonna die I had to leave 30 minutes in I was gonna say did you walk out? oh my god it only took 30 minutes roughly because okay roughly 30 40 and so i watched it again to kind of get prepped up and i was trying to figure out where was the point where my throat closed shut and i looked at my mom and said like i think we need to go where of course we went over to golden spoon had some ice cream i mean your mom because was your mom okay like i know i like you're the one that pulled the plug you're like mom I can't do this we made a decision and we're going to stick it out

as long as my son wants I don't have a memory of that I that my memories are so scattered and it was me and they're freaked out and then like a blink and then I was in a parking lot of a golden spoon like eating chocolate fro-yo oh yeah so it was a horrifying experience

but I don't know. Maybe it was my mom's favorite movie and I'm a total buzzkill. She's like, oh, my son is so lame. Kids are buzzkills. That's the lesson of this podcast. Every time I see my mom, she does bring up how she's never finished this movie. Passive aggressively. You never let me finish a vent.

Right. Okay. So how does it start? Okay. It starts on some title cards that let us know that in the year 2040, the Event Horizon launched into space to explore the boundaries of the solar system and went missing. And it was the biggest space exploration disaster of all time. Like a Titanic or a Britannic.

Like, is that? Okay. Exploration disaster of all time. Like a Titanic or a Britannic. Like, is that. Okay. And seven years later, 2047, they send a ship out to go look for it. And that's kind of that's where we start. Okay.

And the ship is manned by Miller, Lawrence Fishburne and his crew. And they're kind of this is kind of a sci-fi and horror movie trope. So when you start watching this movie, you'll be like, I have seen this like 20 times. It's a group of kind of ragtag buds. They're Josh and they're joking and they're good buddies but they're kind of like doing something they don't want to do right and they're they're sent on a mission reluctantly and it's almost like it's that like it's my last day on the job and then the worst day ever happens right there's a lot of that but then we learned that sam neill has been sent over because he was one of the

guys who actually built the event horizon and so he's kind of already odd man out so there's like this weird tension from the get-go but also we see like weird intercut shots in the beginning of sam neill having dreams that his wife's visiting him and she has no eyes it's just wet gooey cavity just wet wet cavity oh my god god. Wait, was the wife on the event horizon? No. Just out of context. He's having wife flashbacks and we don't know why yet. At first it's a dream.

Oh, okay. It's clear that it's a dream. But kind of as the movie goes on and we'll get there, I guess, these dreams start to become a little bit more real or they become lucid. So it's like, is this a dream? Is this a flashback? Is it a hallucination? What's going on?

And also, is it real? Or are these like actual apparitions? Are they memories or fabrications? Eyes have a really fascinating motif in this movie. Like, eyes appear in so many different ways. Whether in the body. No, no, no, no. Or out of the body

in the handies. Oh, God. I don't know if you guys know this. Hands are not where eyes are supposed to be. No. They're supposed to be in the head holes. That's why they're there. In those gooey wet cavities. That's where I want them to be. That's where eyes go in the gooey wet

cavities. I'm teaching my daughter all about anatomy and that's how I'm going to teach her. The eyes go in the gooey wet cavityins I'm teaching my daughter all about anatomy and that's how I'm going to teach her the eyes go in the gooey wet cabins I'm going to show it to her but in reverse so she sees where eyes go into instead of eyes coming out of yeah perfect okay so he sees his wife so yeah basically

so they go out to space to find the event horizon and as they're getting nearer they get like a transmission from it and they can hear it like a transmission from it and they can hear it like something in latin and they translate it and it says save me well or so they think yes exactly it's it's um distress call it's a classic distress call it's them saying save me or help me or something like that okay so they get to the ship and send three people on board first. It's Miller, Peters, the med tech. She's a woman.

Miller's Lawrence Fishburne. And Justin, who is like the youngest one kind of. He's like the explorer. He's like a young duck. He's like this like young kind of wet behind the ears, excited guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's like if a golden retriever was a person.

I've seen this actor in other movies and he's he's kind of like if a dog turned into a person like he's just like hi yeah and you just know the second you see him it's like this guy's one dead instantly he's too happy he just can't sustain yeah but another thing that's interesting too about when they get onto the ship is that we're wants to go he has this drive sam neill's character right and laurence fishman puts his foot down says absolutely not that's not part of the mission right we don't know what's on this thing that took care of there and there's we're instantly like getting these like really tense motions between the two of them interesting and he doesn't let him go on so then sam neill has to watch from their kind of like

futuristic gopros on their 80 pound uh helmets there's like heavy ass costumes and then yeah they each have kind of a creepy scene miller like a frozen hand or like a cut off hand like hits his mask is that cut off or is it just a glove it might just be a glove i think that's like a cat scene like okay yeah yeah it's like a fake fake out fake out scare and then um peters sees a very scary corpse that's like real cut up and crazy and like... Not a standard corpse. We're not talking standard corpse. No, this is like...

Well, yeah, like Hellraiser looking. Like his skin is like cut... It's flayed. Checkered. Oh, no. It's like when you see someone get a chemical peel and there's just that bright wetness. Yeah. Picture that, but in Yeah. But the corpses

have all been preserved because they're in space and somehow that's possible. So it's like frozen. Okay. Got it. It's just floating and they're just kind of freaked out. Which to me, in these kind of movies when that kind of thing happens, I'm the guy who's like, we gotta get the fuck out of here. Of course. Mission's done you guys. Of course. For some reason they gotta

keep going. Well, I guess probably like you have to make sure, you know. That no one else yeah save any survivors that's your job that's what one of them looks like yeah i mean i'm with you i look like hamburger meat his face is hamburger meat it's so bad oh no so they keep going so they're like let's okay well that's interesting but you know they've also all split up they're in like different rooms which i also hate another classic yeah they're like let's all explore separately far away from each other do they have a way of communicating with each other and sam neill is on the ship kind of telling them all where to go because he knows he's like the architect right and he's saying all right you go here you go here you go here on the monitors

did they see the corpse did all the people on they're aware they're fully aware yeah so at this point everyone's kind of like okay i think we're not finding anyone who's live anymore we're now just going to figure out how these people died and how many more are there right um and then justin goes into what is the what are we what's the name of the thing that's the core the core and the core sam neill explains this is the event horizon and's the core. The core. And the core, Sam Neill explains, this is the Event Horizon. And then in an earlier scene, he explains what the Event Horizon is. It's a ship that was built by the government to try and go great distances in the blink of an eye. Okay.

So it's like folding space. And he demonstrates with a picture of a hot girl magazine that some guy put up in his bunk. He goes, hey, man, don't do that. It's my hot girl. And so Sam Neill, just fish out of water. He takes it and he puts a pencil through both ends and folds the piece of paper like a taco, saying what this core does is that it creates a tiny little black hole, physics. It bends space and time.

And then we go there. And so they go to the core and it's this massive spinning kind of like H.R. Geiger-esque thing. It's very alien. It's like everything looks like it could cut you and hurt you. It's the worst design core I've ever seen in my entire life. It looked bad. It looked bad to be in there.

Yeah. And they go into it. And what happens is that it's physically impossible for the core to turn on because there's no power on the ship. But for some reason, while Justin's there, it turns on. And by the way, it's zero gravity so he's looking around and there's little blips of fluid just kind of floating oh god oh yeah like human fluid you don't know i think just space fluid oh the worst kind and he touches it right he touches the core like you do boink yeah yeah yeah after seeing a corpse another little like matrixy type scene very matrixy and does he get sucked into it what happens is the core turns on and we see that this circular

thing kind of becomes flat and this flat thing kind of becomes like liquidy like mercury it's like this like viscous metal and for some reason he's kind of cold to it like he he wants to explore it but he puts his hand in and kind of feels it oh that's another thing about horror movies why are you doing it don't do that of course he's tethered right because they know he's going into the core right and what do you think happens yeah motherfucker gets sucked the shit in and the tether is just going and so they send them out they flip out send someone in after who do they send in they send in mill They send in Miller.

Miller. What will happen is Miller goes in. They've got the thing. They get him out and he's all fucked up. He's like dazed and like, we got to get back on the ship right now. Justin gets out, but he's not himself. I think he's like unconscious. He gets sucked in and then he gets spit back out.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Meanwhile, when this thing happens, a pulse is sent through the whole ship this massive kind of like and this fucks up their ship that is docked to it so now we have the other space trope which is your ship is fucked oh no and Sam

Neil says here's what we're gonna do guys instead of going on to our ship which is fucked why don't we repair it while all of us get on the event horizon because this ship's not fucked Sam like throughout the course the movie is like falling in love with the ship he's like more and more like oh we gotta get we gotta get on this ship he's you start to see that he has this maybe an ulterior motive yeah yeah creepy not is he is it suspicious yet or not yet probably he's starting he is a physicist and he designed he's aware of the ship's power okay

and he needs to go there and you start to kind of realize it's like maybe he wants to get to that core for another reason interesting maybe the core is calling him that's what it is because then you start to see something we didn't talk about earlier which is really fucked up Peters this female doctor we see footage in the beginning kind of building

all the characters like what are they like what are their interests what's she into and we see her watching this kind of video of back home we assume back home and it's her kid who's like so polioed out like he's like white and gray and he's at this like birthday party that's like it's kind of fucked up if you're gonna have a kid who can't like run around and have a birthday party for him and like everyone's running around having fun and he's like stuck there and his legs don't work that's very sad and she's just kind of watching it sweetly so her first visions she has is her son in the medical room of the event horizon and she's like what it's like a tent and she pulls it over and he's sitting there but the son's legs are exposed and they're just wrought with maggots so i'm like 10 for 10 on picking movies.

I got kids getting hurt. Oh my God. I'm so good at this game. I'm the best. Wait, when does she have this vision? Before she even gets on the ship? Each one of them, when they get on the ship, start to have this kind of strange vision.

Something happens. And it's kind of happening in this like, did I see that? Or did I not see that? So of course they get back to the ship and she's kind of she's rattled yeah so 11 year old evan is still holding it down i think i'm still in the movie you're still in the movie right now okay like hoping they're all gonna get guns and shoot the bad guys like i'm like that's truly what's gonna happen i think that's gonna

happen this movie you're like we're only 20 minutes in and i'm already deeply traumatized for the rest of my life rob And Robin, my mom, is just stuffing popcorn. I love that. Just thinking like, I hope my little pussy son doesn't get out of this one. I will finish this movie, god damn it. And then I think Justin's actually in the medical room

with her, like, on a table. The guy who goes into the core. And he's, like, starts convulsing. And he's really good at convulsing, by the way. Golden Retrie starts convulsing and he's really good at convulsing by the way golden retriever convulsing it's kind of like you know these movies didn't have all the graphics that we have now so you're like really doing it

yeah like nowadays you would like kind of speed up the footage or you do like some sort of stuff and it's like no the guys is doing it 24p like frame per second actors can get away with convulsing so slowly just kind of wiggle and we'll Fix it in post

Give us something to work with We got a plug in for this we just press writhe And your body just kind of shakes It's actually like Going to the sharper image But then we're is In like the ducts what is he doing i don't know i guess it doesn't matter he's like up in the ducts trying to fix the ship i guess he's doing something up there that's pretty

john mclean from die hard yeah he's in this tight little claustrophobic area and it's green a lot of green um and he has his first like apparition vision. Yes. His wife in the ducts. And she's like, I like your home. And I have so much to show you. She's like, I have so much to show you. That's like a motif in the whole thing. Yeah. Like I've been somewhere.

Yeah. I have something to show you. Yeah. Eyes. All the visuals. It's all there. It's so creepy. I love it. my god and then miller sees

a fiery corpse what is the corpse saying it's like save like don't leave me don't leave me well the corpse says you left me it's like accusing him it's just fucked up dude is like on fire and it's at the base of the core and he sees with his own eyes. So when everybody kind of comes back after this terrible idea to split up and go across this like horrifying ship, they all come back and they're reassessing what's happening. And they're all like, we saw something. All of them saw something. I saw something.

Yeah. They're commiserating and they realize, oh, this ship is really not good. Yeah. Well, he says the fiery corpse was like a mission that went bad before where he had to leave someone behind. So the ship is like fucking with them. Yeah. Well, he says the fiery corpse was like a mission that went bad before where he had to leave someone behind. So the ship is like fucking with them. Yeah. So he says I never told

anyone that. And so the ship knows like my biggest fear. So meanwhile, as this is all happening, and even though Sam Neill has also had visions, he keeps reminding the crew, no, these are classic traits of oxygen deprivation, which is what we're going on.

I'm a doctor. I know. This is another classic horror thing where it's like, no, you're just going crazy. Let me explain it away. He's gaslighting. He's mansplaining to all of them. It's awful. And he tells all of them, like, you guys just need to chill. We're on a mission.

We have to keep on this mission. We have to do it. Why at this point? Let's fix that ship and go home. They have no means yet. Then we revisit the film of the footage. And we're starting to see different things about it. Oh my God. And this is like, I believe this is where I left.

This is when you got about. This is one of the last things I remember seeing as a kid in a movie. And just being. I remember this is where I looked at my mom and said like we have to go right there's yeah there's a part earlier where peter where they've like gotten this like footage but they're like it's it's unclear and you can't really see what's happening and staticky yeah and someone's like oh i'll run it through some filters like see what i can get and so then they like finally um they're like okay we we got the footage like let's take a look and it's the whole previous crew just like murdering each other in the craziest ways like but i also took a note for this scene

specifically because i read about it oh no okay yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, it's like so bloody. Everyone, it's so violent. And like, what are some ways that they're killing each other? Okay. Well, it's their bare hands. There's no like apparatuses. It's just like ripping each other apart. You see this shot of a guy and it's like a dummy head, but it looks really good.

And he has his own hand in his mouth and he's like choking slash ripping his tongue out. What the fuck? And then you see another guy pulling his eyes out presenting them to camera and in Latin just repeating this verse which was what they thought it was save me and then they hear

more of it in this new cleaned up version and it says save yourselves from hell like don't come here okay would have been great to have gotten that full message couldn't they have just sent a text save yourselves

from hell now my favorite thing about this scene as I read about it because this scene was a big note from the network and from the studio saying we can't show this scene this scene they referred to as the blood orgy yeah because they're also fucking they're not

just killing each other it's a full blown like satanic ritual blood orgy where they're just fucking each other they're fucking each other I'm so I'm so intrigued the actual the actual production notes is that they used real life amputees so it looked like they actually

were missing limbs and real porn actors no so the scene is like actual fucking no and also actual amputees oh my god having sex on screen it's another oh my god oh everyone's naked covered in blood ripping each other apart and for some, I thought it'd be funny to write down real life amputees and porn actors. Imagine the green room. Jesus Christ. Oh my God. Oh my God. Are you here for this thing too? Truly, I'm so...

Part of me wants to see this scene. I'm curious about the origin scene. I never want to see this. It's one of the gnarliest. It's really, really crazy. Emily looks like she needs to tap out for a second. I just I just can't. Yeah, no, it was really bad.

Emily just got on her bird scooter and floated away. It's one of the most disturbing scenes and that's absolutely the image I have is when the guy tugs at his eyes with his own hands and pulls out his eyeballs and puts them to the screen and says, save yourself

from hell. That's where I turn my mom and said, I gotta go. But of course I did. I revisited this movie years later. You know, the bloody fucking with body like, mother, I'd like to go get ice cream. I wasn't expecting this. The trailer does not prepare you for this scene. No, the trailer really didn't show much. It's very

violent. Super violent. So what happens to them when they see this? I mean, they're all very freaked out. trailer does not prepare you no the trailer really didn't show much it's a it's very violent so what happens to them then when they see they're i mean they're all just they're all very freaked out there i think they're like appropriately freaked out probably except for uh weir but um well this is around the time sam neil weir's dr weir really starts to go into like full psychosis yeah he's like get he's like kind of sabotaging things yeah. Like he's doing a lot of weird stuff. So the next thing that happens, this scene was really good and intense is when Justin wakes up and goes to the airlock. So basically you have your inner door and your outer door, right? And so he locks himself in there.

De-pressurizes. De-pressurizes to to like eject himself from the ship into space and he's like kind of like zombie not himself like talking like not in a space suit no not in a space suit and he's talking to peters through the glass who's like crying and being like like what are you doing please like don't open the outside door and he's like basically like i've been to hell and i'm yeah what i've seen what i've seen i can't like i need to get the fuck out of here i can't live like please like i need to die whoa that's when he got sucked in that's when he went to hell yeah that's what we're kind of learning that's what we're kind of learning the ship is haunted

but no it's not haunted it's even worse when it splits space and time it essentially like he said he says the dark inside me shows me horrible things so it's like open to hell he says the dark inside me shows me horrible things so it's coming from him and he can't escape it oh god and so he's like in that trance and then he presses the eject and it has its

30 second countdown outside and then we see Lawrence Fishburne is outside like trying to fix the ship and he's like he's like oh my god like I'll go and like save him like I'll get you don't worry you're gonna be fine you're gonna be fine and after he's saying well he's kind of like it's

like it's not really clear Peters who's on the other side of the glass and so Peters is like go get him go get him and he's like the 30 second thing goes and Justin snaps back to his like regular self and he's like he's like what the 30 second thing goes and Justin snaps back to his like regular self. And he's like, he's like, what's happening? What's happening?

Please, please. And then then they're like, OK, you need to or Lawrence Fishburne Miller is talking to him and he's like, curl into curl into a ball. Take a deep breath like you're going to get ejected into space. There's no like override. I'm going to like catch you. And you can use that deal with like space And stuff like that they never go into what you're supposed

To do but when you fall Into space in other movies it's just like it's kind of Different every movie has a different interpretation The fact that they give Lawrence Fishburne this direction Of like here's what you're actually gonna do because this Is what's gonna happen to you like your insides are gonna become Outsides it adds such A gnarly level to it

Oh my god Okay I'm getting a god in the duct his veins are like starting to like his eyes are turning red he has to close his eyes they're like close your eyes close your eyes they're like starting to like burst out of his head and he like

curls into a little ball it opens no no no no and he's like flipping kind of somersaulting Towards yeah screaming And now blood is like kind of coming out Everywhere Floating zero gravity blood droplets Ripping from his skin

Oh my god So scary And Lawrence Fishburne grabs him and Takes him back inside but surely any amount Of time in space without a space suit is enough to kill you right unless you're princess Leia in the newest Star Wars right somehow she survives

what does happen to the human body does anyone know for a fact no I don't know in a split second and I've because this is something that bothers me so much in movies for some reason everyone takes a different liberty of like what is space and they think that as long as you hold your breath, you'll be fine.

Cause it's just a suffocation thing. Yeah. It is like negative thousand degrees. Right. I think you would die instantly. There's an unbelievable pressure. So there's only a few movies that have like really done it. I think this one kind of tackles it pretty good.

Just in a movie slowed down version of it, but surely it would be that violent and that intense and the other one is like total recall when they're on Mars and their face is just exploding it's like a pressure thing you're a balloon that's going to implode and explode at the same time right Jesus fucking Christ so this is who finally does it they're like we're actually

going to show you what I think is going to happen in space wow space is so scary and it's right there you guys it's right up there all of our problems it's right there, you guys. It's right up there. Like all of our problems, it's just hanging over our heads. So close. Never going away. So they get him back in and he's not dead

but he's obviously not well. Which is crazy. This guy's been through a ton. He definitely would be dead. He would be dead. But they just want to keep him alive. There's really, by the way, spoiler alert, there's no reason to keep him alive. was gonna say like let him i mean yeah who wants to come back from that yeah maybe the director was like what's scarier dying in these instances or suffering in a horrible irreparable way 100% kept alive throughout the whole thing and it's like yes 100% that feels very similar to um an evil dead that like that is

such a scary moment of being in a different state and then coming back to yourself like that is so yep scary yeah not having any control over your state of mind and being like all of a sudden being like oh wait i'm back no i don't want to i don't want to be here and it's like ship sailed you're fucked like so scary that's what's neat about this movie is that it's it's a horror movie that tackles kind of all the things there's body horror there's like jump scares there's suspense but there's another movie that uh andre tartovsky made his famous wonderful russian director called solaris and it's a they remade it with george clooney and it deals with the same thing of what's most scary about losing your mind like the things that haunt you coming back and yeah and what's scarier things on the outside of the world or the things inside your head

and this movie goes instead of them being scared about like you know a bad guy or like dying outside of space what if the worst secrets, the worst fears, the worst anxieties inside each one of them personified and just started destroying them? Oh, God. That's what this whole movie is. That's what hell is, essentially.

Hell's just this constant loop of terror. Your own personal terror. That's essentially what they deal with. It's great. After this Justin situation they're like we need to fucking get home we need to figure this out and this yeah

is where Sam Neill's like he says I am home and he's like starting to like slink away and like run and like do do they hear him say that are they all like dude is okay I think yes Miller is like realizes

at this point the guy's gone rogue yeah he's like yeah but something they don't go into the movie and I thought they were gonna get there just kind of like putting on like my writer hat and I was like oh and maybe it's in like the lost footage of this movie because there was a director's cut I was wondering maybe Sam Neill's interested in the ship because

he's gonna try and get his wife back because he knows there's this kind of dimensional leap and maybe he can go to a different time but they don't really get there no he's like so is his wife dead well yes we finally learn okay i don't know when it happens but yeah there is a scene in which it's his vision of his wife committing suicide. And all these visions of her and these things she was saying, like, like, I miss you. And you're like, not around. And like, you're never here. They start to kind of they come together in this way where you realize it's like, oh, those are the things she's saying because she killed herself.

Like, he was always gone. He wasn't there. She needed him. Oh, my God. So he's so sad. All these images of her are all from the moment that he found her naked and dead in the bathtub because she opened her wrists another scene that apparently i think was shot in a different way way bloodier and when

they tested it the audience said absolutely not so there's a there's an even bloodier wow suicide scene with his wife somehow we saw the tame version and even that is still a lot that's all it's a lot um so one by one they're all kind of dying one by one they're all dying and and um peters peters is so bad so she's like sees her son running around now with his legs well and she's like there's probably maggots under those pants. And she's like chasing him like through the ship. When she should be getting these massive like CO2 tank things that are going to be used to get their ship back to order. Okay. So she's now totally distracted. Right.

And she basically is like chasing him around and finally catches up with him and as she's like about to reach him she falls down through this big opening like a space tunnel space tunnel like i don't know six stories like whoever designed that is so not osha let's just have a big open hole here landing in the core which is like this surrounded by all these horrible metal objects and her body just like explodes on impact blood like oh it's so bad and she

just sounds like a big wet sack of just carcass meat and she's not quite dead yet she kind of has moments of like choking on her blood and oh my god it was bad and why wouldn't moments of like choking on her blood and oh my God, it was bad. And why wouldn't she also, while choking on blood and probably paralyzed, see images of her child running around her and running around the core?

Why not? Let's do it. This is hell after all. That's horrible. This is the last thing she sees. That's horrible. Very dark. I think Emily's into it though.

She seems like she's doing well. Yeah. Emily's looking like- Emily's probably bummed. Emily's lost the guy from peewee's playhouse and the guy from drastic park i think you're gonna like it no okay so then so then dj's death scene is next and he's um jason isaacs who is he's kind of this like logical doctor of the Lucius pretty hot oh I see yeah

pretty hot we have to we have to describe who in this film is hot we haven't done it yet Cooper is also hot who's Cooper we haven't really gotten

that much to him yet he's like I don't know oh Cooper yeah you know Cooper is kind of like the comedy relief but he's also like

the soldier he's like the soldier with an accent right right special forces he's a great guy and he's joking the whole time and he's always in these situations that are like precarious but he survives he's very like durable um and he actually yeah so anyways but so dj's death scene um oh my god so this is when sam weir is really full tilt yeah he is now he's either fully possessed as the devil himself because he's kind of

imbued with these new strengths. He has these like unbelievable powers. Yeah. Oh no. But nothing crazy. Like he can just kind of like pick stuff up real easy. So does he, he fights DJ?

Well, DJ is alerted by Miller, Lawrence Fishman's character. Cause they've noticed that there's these, these devices were put in the core's entrance as a failsafe. Should anything happen with the core, like a black hole going that they couldn't get rid of, it'll detonate and it'll send the core floating off into the black hole while the ship goes to safety. They notice that now that Sam Weir is just, or Dr. Weir is just nuts. He stole one of the incendiary devices.

Like, oh, he's got one of the bombs. We don't know where he is. They notice this uh lawrence fishburne warns dj uh was that moffoy yeah which is they they say hey the doctor's nuts he's somewhere on the ship and he has a bomb he's probably gonna try and blow up our ship so we're stuck on the event horizon forever oh no oh no and he goes don't worry i've got it and he picks up a little knife and you think like this is gonna be kind of cool turns around instantly and samuel's there picks him up by the throat and lifts them with ease oh no and then sammy can kind of i don't actually remember i feel like i blocked it out i like it's a bit of a wipe it does right

okay but then what it cuts to he throws him really hard and then we kind of get a little wipe we get a little side scene and we is it Miller that finds him Lawrence Fishburne yes Lawrence Fishburne now is like oh my god he comes in and he sees the DJ has been opened from

the chest no this is upside down hanging like like Justin Timberlake in the in sync no strings attached kind of thing like a marionette like a marionette with his whole body justin timberlake okay okay he's dead he's dead for sure held by his like flayed open chest what it's very much like the midsummer scene did you see midsummer spoiler no i didnummer i mean there's someone who dies very similarly so that happens and he's flayed open like like a picture open heart surgery it's all oh my god it's so gross belly down hovering over his inspection desk and his chest is being like like canopied up to the and all of his insides are just pouring out like it's just sounds

it's the worst ASMR video I've ever seen and so obviously there's a million points in this movie where it's like at this point they realize they're in trouble this is like that 9000 it just keeps happening

and they kind of deduce at this point that there's only two people alive. Miller and Weir. Miller and Weir because we see that Cooper. Cooper? Hot guy. Hot guy has been kind of kicked off into space and he's just kind of floating around aimlessly. But we don't see him die. We just kind of know

that he's kind of floating around. Right. We see the lady. Oh no there's another lady who just kind of like disappears for a little bit. Stark. Stark. She's kind of like I don't know where she goes to be honest. Yeah she just kind of floating around. We see the lady. Oh, no. And then there's the other lady who just kind of like disappears for a little bit. Stark. She's kind of like, I don't know where she goes to be honest. Yeah, she just kind of

disappeared for a bit. And then they... And we also don't see any of her images, by the way. We never see a single one of her hallucinations. Right. She just kind of has this weird

like she's there but not there thing. Yeah. And you have to, you have to kind of wonder was this part of the original edit? Was there a whole sub thing

happening that we don't know about most terrific what could have possibly happened no that's what we're gonna take this and leave that that's the bargaining like okay I get to keep

open amputee porn we like the porn scene we, even like you keep the amputee porn blood orgy. Look, we like the porn scene. We like that part. It tested great in the Midwest. The five or six love the blood orgy. So after the Jason Isaacs scene,

after he's flayed open, you see Sam Neill kind of have this moment of like transformation. And you realize mentally like there's no going back. This guy's now either not himself

or a version of himself that went through hell. I don't know know and he decides in order to see better he needs to remove his mortal eyes okay and this is this motif of his wife saying where i've been like you'll you have to see what i've seen so we see him kind of put his little fingies inside of his eye holes and pull them out okay okay there's a lot of this in this movie. A lot of screaming. And then the next time we see him is sitting kind of like. He's in the captain's chair. Yeah, like a badass. And he says to them

they're like, ah, your eyes. And he says, where we're going, we don't need eyes. And his eyes have now been sewn shut. So he's sewing the lids shut and I don't know where his eyeballs actually ended up. He might have eaten them. Just on the floor. Just a floor.

Just a dirty floor. A filthy floor. Could be a clean floor. Oh, my God. Yeah. They're kind of having... It's... And Laurence Bichon's like, you're a madman and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, yeah. That kind of stuff. You lost it. Stark is in there now. And... But she's unconscious because I think she got thrown at a wall. Right. She got...

But she snuck up behind and... Yep. One of those things. And then Cooper, who was like floating around in space, slams onto like the essentially windshield from the outside. He found a way to like use his air, his oxygen to kind of self-propel himself. Whoa. In a spacesuit.

Yeah. In an 80 pound spacesuit. Yeah. And Weir shoots him, which is like through the windshield seems like a pretty bad idea. It's not a good idea. And of course that causes all this crazy suction. Everyone's like holding

on to things to avoid being like sucked out of the... Another thing about space that wouldn't happen, you would literally just die instantly. It's because the pressure would just crush you like a cat. But we'll entertain that it's like a window and it's windy. And there's just like a fan off camera. There's a union special effects guy just like,

all right, full blast for you, Mr. Fishbutt. Hold on to your butts. And they just, whoa. And they do that sideways like they're a flag. Whoa. It's a little silly. That part kind of takes me out of it. They pull you right back in.

And Weir flies out, right? Weir flies out. Oh my god. But it's the same thing where you don't really see him die. You just kind of see him exit. And for some reason Lawrence has the strength to kind of get to this other area and because he's kind of behind a wall, he's able to withstand

the pressure. Physics. He grabs the woman and saves her and then the door locks and they do that and Cooper's there now too there's three people alive okay it's Miller it's Cooper and then I can never remember her name Stark I'm telling you

she has no story okay like it's hard to remember I hope that she did prior to the cuts what's presented is it's just like she, she literally shows up and you go, oh, her. Yeah. But she's still here. I forgot about her. But she's her. But Weir is out in space.

So we assume the problem is solved. But I feel like the rule is, if you don't see someone die, they're not dead. Exactly. Especially if they're Satan reincarnated. Especially if they're Satan. Especially then. So. Then the ship starts filling up with blood.

Oh, yeah. All of a sudden. What? Like shining scenes. Like we just start seeing like a shining motif. Gallons and gallons of blood. Where is this blood coming from? Hell?

Hell, yeah. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. And there is some path home now, right? They're like, we can. The goal is to. Explode our half off of the the part with the core

yes and it's like an escape pod basically that they've figured out how to work yeah so i believe what happens is yes you're right so the event horizon will become their new home essentially that'll be their way home but they need to get rid of the core because they kind of realize the problem it's open yeah it's open to hell yeah and we need to get this thing taken care of. We got a TCLB taking care of business. They're like, this will work, but we just gotta close the gate to hell. We gotta close the gate. We'll definitely get home as soon as we close the gate to hell.

Especially if we just do this one thing. Well, we're good. It's like a dad with a refrigerator. Don't leave the door open. Close the gate to hell, kids. You're not gonna like what happens. If you like your eyes, you're gonna hate what happens when you leave the gate to hell um so they get in there and lawrence fishburne finally has his confrontation with his personal demon which is this kind of like this guy's are you and he's like shooting fire so now that he kind of has this weird like superpower to like shoot fire

yeah and lawrence fishburne gets stuck in the core where the other guys go into the safe area. So now they're separated. And it's that race against time. Like, Fishburne, you got to go because this thing's about to blow. Lawrence Fishburne is now battling his demon. And the demon kind of goes away and then turns into Sam Neill. Weir is back. And he's like full Hellraiser.

Yeah. He's got the like slashed skin now, too. Like, he just looks so scary. So scary. He's a demon. He's bald now. And he's naked, by theashed skin now too like he just looks so scary he's a demon he's bald now and his body he's naked he's naked yeah i have it written down miller and miller and naked weir fight i don't think we did get full frontal we don't see wiener but we do see that he's wearing like a nude undie kind of set and i think there's like red over it so maybe he cut it off oh my god i wouldn't put a pass in this movie somewhere there is an edit somewhere of him floating in space. Castrating himself.

Yeah, he's like, when I get back, I'm going to show them, but first got to get this off. Jesus Christ. I got to fight with my wiener out. That's embarrassing.

So he comes back flayed. Like he's like, every inch of his body is cut and scored and like blood is out. And he's super powerful and he's kind of like saying these crazy things

like, you can't leave. Yeah, it won't let you leave. It won't let you leave. Like leave where? Hell is open. And I think you're going to like it if you actually just kind of like give over. And Lawrence just runs like, nah, I'm not going to do it.

Wouldn't be prudent. But I think he like ultimately decides to sacrifice himself, right? Because he's like, I'm not going to be able to get out of here but they still let me save the other two and also in a kind of in a way it's almost him doing the same thing he did to the guy that's haunting him right he's

kind of like I didn't save you I'm going to save these people I'm going to do probably what I should have done back there I should have died with him then I shouldn't have thought that my life was greater than his right so he does he does kind of have this like martyr moment. Yeah. It's very Jesus-like.

He's like, I will kind of Jesus moment right now. I will martyr die. Jesus versus Satan. Classic tale. Wow. A religious film. That's why it's so scary. We're doing this on a Sunday.

I know. Instead of going to church. Church service. One of us, he blows it up. It goes into a black hole. Sam's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. Church service. Anyways, he blows it up. It goes into a black hole. Sam Neill's like, no. And we see that it goes into a black hole and we see that Cooper and Stark are safe. Yeah.

They go into their little pod things and then they go down. Then something happens. So 72 days later, they're found. There's a crew. It's like, we're here. And they have their, it's like first person kind of video game. We're here. We found them.

We're here. Oh, yeah. Justin's in there too, by the way. The guy who's like all squirming. Oh, is he still alive? He's like barely, he's hanging on by a thread. 72 days later, somehow still alive. Very impressive.

He's in like a frozen thing. They've just like shut him, shut everyone down. He looks like gefilte fish. Oh my God. He's doing me in pickled and it's gross. Oh no. looks like gefilte fish and it's gross so something happens in the end which is it still scares me in movies when movies do this it's one of my least favorite

like horror movie trope endings yeah and it's the false save ending yeah that is so improbable and so insane where you kind of have that feeling of dread of like there's no getting away yeah you can blow up anything like the horror is always going to be there so what happens so um stark wakes up first and sees the the like rescue crew coming and the main he's like you're safe you're safe and like takes off his mask and it's

weird all bloody and crazy and it's like you never leave. And then like snaps back to. Her actually woken up. She is woken up. And there are actually rescue people there. And they're like, whoa, whoa. And she just like doesn't stop screaming. She's just screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming. And that's the end of the movie.

Oh, my God. It's awesome. Late 90s techno plays. Chemical Brothers. Crazy graphics. Awesome late 90s techno plays. Oh, my God. Do you think the same thing was going to happen to that crew that happened to the other crew? Well, you wonder it's like, is this the trauma that will be with them forever? Right.

And is it more of like a metaphorical thing? Or is the core being sucked into black hole moot? Who cares? Yeah. Once that portal's been open, like hell is now released right right stuck inside of you oh you feel like my favorite with horror movies like shit you feel awful like really you just feel unsettled

for like a good day oh my god thinking about stuff you're not could see Emily's face you would know that she didn't even have to see this movie with her own eyes she looks like she's a picky eater and someone said no no no try this calamari and she's being a good to see this movie with her own eyes. She looks like she's a picky eater and someone said, no, no, no, try this calamari. And she's being a good sport and put it in her mouth

and just held it. And she's just like, Emily, is the calamari... See, it's not that gooey, right? She's like trying so hard not to throw up. Yeah, yeah. That's literally been her face for like the last 20 minutes. It is a tough movie. It's a really tough movie. And you know what? I hate this

more than The Evil Dead. Yeah, I mean, it's it was worse for me too, for sure. I don't know. There's something about it I kind of liked. It's really good. Surprise! I thought it was interesting. It was like, it was all done pretty well. The actors were pretty good. And so I'm like confused about why it has a 27%.

Why do people hate it so much? It does sound like a good movie that I will fucking hate and never want anything to do with. But like it does sound good. Yeah. I don't know why I didn't mind it. I think there's something about space movies that I'm intrigued by, especially ones that deal with like a little bit of existential dread. Yeah. I'm kind of into that.

Yeah. Don't want to actually see it with my own eyes, though. I will admit. You can watch it with somebody else's eyes. I could. Because they're floating around in space. You just grab them. Someone could just like pop their eyes out for me right now. I'd appreciate it. You got it. I know a place you can go. They'll do it for you for free.

It's a really, it is a shocking thing that that movie has such a low rating. Because to me it is. It's quite a feat. And I feel like America wasn't ready they just were like no this isn't we don't want this right now now and then lo and behold what came out like months later and just killed was Titanic that's what America wanted yeah this is not Titanic

this is not Titanic movie this is a different type if you meet someone who's like what's your kind of favorite movie they go oh, oh, movies with vessels. Be very specific.

This is a vessel movie, but do you like Titanic kind? Or Event Horizon? Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? Event Horizon. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I mean, I'm a big vessel head. Big fan of vessels. Can't get enough. Polar Express.

Love it. You do love Marine history Don't you? I do yeah I'm pretty Nautical Museums You're a vessel head?

I am Good God I'm so surprised To even myself When I found that out I went to a nautical museum In England And was like

So Interested In everything In a way that was Really New information To me i'm scared of underwater stuff and i think that's probably something you guys i feel like we like asked this before but yeah did we decide or is underwater or space scarier both they're equally scary they're

the same actual footage like if you put up a youtube video of like like large squid underwater it doesn't matter if it's day or night because it's just dark. Everything's night. The murkiness. Oh, it's always night underwater. Classic. It's like that's horrifying to me. There's nothing scarier than being underwater when it's dark and just murky waiting. That's the scariest footage that exists. Being in water.

Also, they're actual straight up monsters underwater that we are well aware of. But remember how in space you will implode and explode in the same moment? I forgot about that. At least it's fast. That is true. At least it's quick. No one can hear you, so you're not a burden. So that's kind of nice. You're not a burden.

That's my biggest fear is bothering people and being a burden. So it's like that is taken care of right away. But I think just thinking about space generally is scarier than thinking about deep under the ocean. To me, anyway, because it's never ending, as we know. It's infinite.

And that's fucking scary to think about. That's true. I mean, you kind of liked this movie, I guess, Henley, but what will haunt you? What's going to haunt you from this? Nothing. I love the whole thing. She looks really happy. I'm so happy.

She's looking like a giant lollipop, like a little kid. I love this movie. You's looking like a giant lollipop like a little kid. I love this movie. I think I'm holding the microphone like a huge lollipop right now. I think I like when

the ship turned into hell. Oh my god. It was weird. I think the thing that will haunt me is Emily was licking her lips the whole time do you know what I'm saying she was licking her lips the whole time

and then they flayed them open and she went yeah she's holding a fork yeah what's up she's looking at me like I'm a giant turkey

like an old cartoon what's that thing I think the thing that will haunt me in all seriousness is the golden retriever boy waking up. Yeah.

Realizing what's happening and being like, get me out, get me out. That's very scary. Yeah, that's very, very scary to me. That regret that moment of regret. I'm remembering a moment that I had such a hard time hearing. And I think I blocked it out since mid podcast. Yes. Midcast? Yeah. Since midcast

I know there was something I know. Well even in retelling it and looking at my notes I felt myself blocking things out too. It might be them all murdering each other with their hands. That was awful. That was so awful. Having sex with each other. Like that might be what it was. awful having sex with each other like that might be

what it was it's all really bad it was it was all bad the space smut scene is really i almost wonder if i didn't i think i just started blocking things out from the beginning and to make this whole experience easier for me and so i'm just so emotionally disconnected i can't help but feel like it was the description of someone trying to yank their own tongue out of their mouth. Oh yeah. That was hard for me. That was a bummer. That was a big bummer.

Emily are you sure? You seem good though. Emily's like catatonic. Yeah. This is how I felt after the evil dead. I truly was like oh I'm I can't process. I like couldn't. And this is worse. This is how I felt after The Evil Dead I truly was like oh I'm I I can't process I like couldn't and this is worse This is this is worse

It's exhausting it's an exhausting Someone get this girl a cookie I need a cookie Like hearing this gave me like low blood sugar That's what's happened to me Hearing this movie Watching it is like a Peloton class. I'm like ill. I'm like physically

ill now. Yeah. You know, there's one other little thing about this movie I found out that I want to share with you guys. Tell us. Please. This is something that I looked up online to see if it was true because it just didn't seem real. There's a director's cut of this movie, which means that Paul Anderson, the better one obviously, the one who made this movie, the real

Paul Anderson, Paul Anderson made this movie and said I want to do my version of it and the studio said we want this thing in six weeks and he goes well the DGA

the Directors Guild of America says I get a ten week cut and they go we don't care we want this thing out before Titanic because it's going to sink us and then

swackity swackity someone's a vessel head who? before we had the vessel head committee last week yeah there was a committee it's on a boat which is crazy of that's all i do so cute before we had the vesselhead committee last week yeah there's a committee it's on a boat

which is crazy there's a star boat committee so they're like no we gotta get this thing out before titanic we just have to do it

so he rushed to get it done and just kind of in the back of his head he's new he goes i'm gonna release my version eventually because i

do have footage guess what this is a true fact about this movie oh no he can't release it because true fact about this movie. Oh, no. He can't release it because the footage of this movie that he shot that never made the cut was stored in a salt mine in Transylvania. No. And rotted.

No. No. That is 100% true. No. Why? Why Transylvania? I don't know. Why? Why Transylvania? Why a salt mine? Did you notice that the executive producer is D-Racula?

D-Racula. Did you see that? Well, I guess we could use my salt mine. You must try it. No, what's that about? It's like... Where do we store this film? Well, we've got these air conditioning bolts in Burbank.

Well, definitely not a secret... Not a room, not an office. Sandy's there like, what about a vessel? What about a vessel? Tell me about a a vessel a biopic doesn't go on the shelf and a murky character in the back of the room goes what about

my salt mine in Transylvania this guy always has the best ideas I'm gonna get one month free and they're like okay go go go and it went This guy always has the best ideas. I'm going to get one month free. And they're like, okay, go, go, go. It goes in the salt mine. And it went into a salt mine in Transylvania. I wish I could see it, honestly.

Yes, I kind of do. Where did they do post on this? That makes no sense. I have no idea. But it's like, oh, I wish that salt mine in Transylvania, I don't know, like, had better salt management. And we could finally see the film that Paul Anderson wanted us to see. Yeah, I just don't know where else it could go. Like what could be worse, like more intense than what we saw.

Maybe it would have had a 37% on Rotten Tomatoes and not a 27%. We'll never know. We'll never know. We'll never know. All right. Well, I'm forever changed and I truly now hell lives inside me from this hearing this film. I think you just need to eat a sandwich or something. I'm gonna eat, yeah. Here's what I need.

I need some food. It's blood sugar. This movie drained me of my life force and I just need to get it back. I need to drink a Coke. I truly feel so bad. Evan, thank you so much for walking us through that movie. Thank you, Evan. Seriously, I had a movie Thank you Evan Seriously I had a great time Oh I had a great time too

I loved every second But it's not your fault You're welcome to both of you Loved it Be careful with the films you watch now With your sweet young girl I know I know I'm doing what I can

I'm just going to go home and watch The Omen with my baby. It's this like funny family rom-com? Yeah, yeah. It's a rom-com. I've heard it's a romp. It's a romp. Yeah, we're gonna watch that later. Well, from all of us here in this room, goodbye. Goodbye.

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