Too Scary; Didn't Watch - EYES WITHOUT A FACE

Episode Date: August 11, 2021

Givenchy nasty nightgowns, detectives that are very bad at their jobs, and the hard plastic mask that started it all - we're recapping Eyes Without a Face!Eyes Without a Face is streaming on ...HBO Max.00:00 - Shoutouts03:28 - Episode starts17:51 - Trivia25:08 - Recap starts Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Holy moly, everybody. We have a great episode for you today. Holy moly. Holy freaking moly. But even holier molier, we have a lot of patrons to shout out. It's the holiest moliest. And we are starting off with some new champions for Actors' Rights. Woohoo! Fighting the good fight. We've got Lily Taylor Mead, Andrew Clutterbuck. Andrew Clutterbuck.
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Starting point is 00:04:02 I like watching scary movies. My head would have exploded. My nose would have grown five inches. Emily, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. It's been like an anxious week for me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yep. These times. Do you know? Yeah. It's been an anxious, Yeah. 18 months for sure. And really like a thing that I've just I'm so tired of having to like figure out what is safe and good. Mm hmm. We just don't have to do that so much prior to this whole stretch.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And like it's it must be like a big part of parenting just like, what's okay and what can I do and what's right. And, like, parents must feel like this all the time, except the stakes are, like, higher. Because I'm just like, I don't know. Can someone just fucking tell me? Can someone just tell me what I'm supposed to do? I'm so tired of making these decisions. But that's not what I'm going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:05:01 What I'm going to talk about is something I've been watching. Sammy, you've been watching it too. I'm talking about The Bachelorette. I was more upset by this week's Bachelorette than I have ever been. Like, I have had more strong feelings than I have ever had watching the show ever, ever. And I, like, can believe it, but also couldn't believe it. Because I also know it's like very manufactured. We listened to, as we've talked about before, Game of Roses.
Starting point is 00:05:33 We were like, we live in LA. We understand the like television portion of the thing. Yes. But I, so I don't normally get very emotionally involved because I don't really buy most of it. Mm-hmm. Wow. I was so angry in my bones.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And today is Thursday. We watched it on Monday. I keep thinking about it. I keep looking it up. I keep trying. I'm fucking furious yep and like engaged in a way that i have never been and it's just all i can think about i'm right there with you and if you can believe it this is what i was going to talk about today too thank god
Starting point is 00:06:19 i thought there might be a chance and i was like i fucking need to keep talking about it. So what happened for our listeners that don't watch The Bachelorette is there was the most upsetting conversation I've ever seen on it that was just one of the contestants just completely
Starting point is 00:06:41 gaslit and emotionally manipulated the lead in this conversation that was so toxic and emotionally abusive to the point where at the end of the conversation, she was on her knees begging him to stay crying. And he looked at her with such disdain and said, I deserve better than you. such disdain and said i deserve better than you and it was so gross and upsetting and triggering anyone who's ever experienced any sort of emotional abuse i'm sure was like super triggered by that episode they didn't put up a trigger warning in fact they gave him like basically a bachelor edit like they're setting him up to be the next bachelor hero the hero of the story and and also like it was yeah it was like to watch any i don't fucking care i again it's like is does she really love him was her heart really broken i don't fucking
Starting point is 00:07:32 know i don't really care to watch anyone speak to someone they supposedly love that way and and and just what it like evoked in her. She was apologizing to him. It was so insane to watch. And then to have him, yeah, be treated like the hero to like, because again, I've looked it up like a thousand times to see people's takes. Like he was pouring his heart out and like she couldn't. It's like disturbing to me on so many levels. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Especially I think, okay, this guy was the we're talking about Greg Grippo. If you want to look it up. He was the frontrunner. He was like, by all accounts, going to win the show, if you think about it in those terms, which I do.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And was like this sweet, shy guy the whole time. And I had seen on Do More, my other fucking thing that I can't get enough of, that he's like an actor and none of this is real. And there had been some posts that he had been like bad to ex-girlfriends. And he had never mentioned my name, but it was enough details that I was like, it's got to be this guy. My favorite thing is that it said he doesn't go down on women. I screamed about that because after seeing this, I'm like, fucking, of course, he does.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He doesn't. Of course, he doesn't. He's a tiny little baby bitch boy who doesn't respect women. But he yeah, he played it off so well for this entire until this episode that I was truly like I had seen those things and was like, I don't it just doesn't. I believe that it's true, but I can't see how I truly was like I had gotten myself wrapped in the nerve, like maybe he's changed this person. I don't know at all on a TV show. And then it was like a fucking switch flipped in this episode. And immediately I was like scared of him, like scared of him through my TV. I was like, was like a fucking switch flipped in this episode. And immediately I was
Starting point is 00:09:25 like scared of him, like scared of him through my TV. I was like, this is a scary man. Yeah. It was terrifying to watch how quickly it just turned. And it became the conversation became. It's like when there's nothing you can say to the other person because the conversation is not about reaching and understanding the goal of the conversation is not about reaching and understanding. The goal of the conversation for that person is to make you feel like shit. Like you can just see there's nothing you can fucking say to him in this moment. He's made up his mind. He's just trying to put on a whole big dramatic show and make you look like the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Make you the villain and make himself the hero and the victim. You really feel like you are the bad guy somehow. Yeah. Yeah. The thing that. Oh, my God, this is how we should move past it so sorry everybody i'm just like again i'm it's like i have a few people with whom i can really like fucking go into this with um the thing that really like was like making my blood boil more than anything was the him being like you you weren't
Starting point is 00:10:24 even katie you're not even being yourself like telling her you became a different person fucking My blood boiled more than anything was the him being like you. You weren't even Katie. You're not even being yourself. Like telling her who she fucking is. Like, bitch, you're not me. Like, what the fuck does that mean? I like you. I don't even know who you were in that moment. It's like Katie wasn't even there.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I oh my God. And Katie, I feel like whatever. I don't I don't know her. I Katie, I feel like, whatever. I don't know her. I don't, not that invested in her. But as, at least as a Bachelorette, she's pretty strong-willed. I've like enjoyed that about her. Right. Both in the show and on social media.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I did enjoy her response to all of this on social media. But that too was like so gross to watch. She was, she was so unable to defend herself she became so not i'm not not as a judgment not her own fault but like weak and small in that moment because that is exactly what the intention was right that was due to her and it was just like really jarring to see like that's some of the fuck most badass strong-willed people women i know have been on the abuser abusive end of like being abused in a relationship right it's so easy to be like but they're so like tough and strong and cool how could that happen to them or that doesn't make
Starting point is 00:11:39 sense or like i don't know and to watch it play out and be like that's fucking how right he makes you feel insane like you can't trust your own reality like you have to beg and plead with him that you are somehow in the wrong that you fucked up with something that was perfect and it's all your fault like and now it's completely ruined and there's nothing you can do to fix your one mistake that you made. Everything is thrown away. Now, I was so in love with you yesterday and now because of this one thing, I'm not anymore. I'm not anymore and goodbye.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And there's, and like, and then, so then there's that. And then on top of it, the presentation of him as this like heartbroken victim going to be the next Bachelor by all accounts right and people on Twitter who again I don't know I don't know them I don't
Starting point is 00:12:29 know their lives being like oh my god poor Greg I can't believe why didn't Katie just break down and tell him she was in love with him and make him stay it's like because that's fucking bullshit yeah that's the beginning of an emotionally abusive relationship right there oh my god I just like haven't those are red flags left and right.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. So what I was going to say is that I started therapy last week. And so I had my second session today. And I was like, really sorry to do this right off the bat, but I've got to talk about the bachelor. Good. I talked about it in therapy because it's really, yeah, it's like rattled me to my core. I was very, very triggered by it. And if they fucking make him the next bachelor, I'm literally rioting and I will be single handedly doing everything in my power to take down ABC. Let's take down ABC.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's fucking take them down. But before we do that. Before we do that, we've got some more pressing things. We should recap this week's movie for our beloved listeners.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Oh, wait, one more thing to say is that you guys, your response on our post for our 100th episode basically made me fall over with happiness. I feel like I was just elated yesterday. Oh my god. Reading all of your
Starting point is 00:13:54 guys' memories and favorite things was so, so fun. Thank you guys so much. We love you so much. Thank you for that. And there are things that I'd forgotten about that I read lines and stuff that really made me laugh. Just like, what a joy.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Thank you so much. Wow. It's real. It really made us all so very happy. Yeah, it was delightful. So you, while we were having bad weeks because of Greg Grippo, that was the real a real turning point.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Really lifted us out of that, that three days of rage. Okay. Emily doesn't even know what this week's movie is. So this is an exciting surprise. We are going to be talking about Eyes Without a Face. Don't love the sound of it.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I guess it's better than Face Without Eyes for me. I could see arguments for both. This is one that we've had requested before. It came out in 1960. It's a French film. The original
Starting point is 00:15:06 title being Les Yeux Sans Visage. Oh, beautiful. I'm going to do my best French. I don't know much French. Jenna's our French speaker of the crew. And she's not here, so you're going to have to hear mine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:21 It is directed by Georges Franjou. I feel like I can only do it if I'm leaning to have to hear mine. Okay. It is directed by Georges Franjou. It's like, I feel like I can only do it if I'm leaning into the accent. Uh-huh. How else? Georges Franjou. You know, you couldn't say that. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But I always feel like it's a little embarrassing to, like, pretend you're French all of a sudden. That's true. It is a one that's hard to do. There's no middle ground for it. There's no middle ground. So I say, give me fucking uh what's the candelabra's name from uh lumiere lumiere give me your best lumiere it is written by pierre brulot oh that's good thomas and i don't even know if this one's french uh narkajuck, Jean Redon, Claude Sautet, Pierre Gascard,
Starting point is 00:16:07 based on a novel by Jean Redon. Oh my god, I love this. Only French movies from here on out. Please. Starring Pierre Brasur, Alida Valli, Edith Scobb, that one doesn't really roll
Starting point is 00:16:22 off the tongue as much, and Juliette Meniel. And it is streaming on HBO Max. Wow. It's a great film. It is a film that is very widely praised. It is on a lot of the best horror movies of all time lists. It has a 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 90% Metacritic, and a 7.7 on IMDb.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Pretty high for IMDb. Pretty high for IMDb. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I take it you don't know anything about this movie. I don't. And had you ever seen it before, or was this your first time? I had never seen it before, but I had kind of heard of it just from people requesting it.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And I know I had seen kind of the cover image before. It's a memorable cover image. Okay. Welcome to Cocktail Hour. This week, we are drinking Le Masque, which is French for the mask, if you couldn't tell based off of my excellent pronunciation. To make this drink, you will need one and a half ounces of lemon vodka, half an ounce of elderflower liqueur, one ounce of grape juice, and half an ounce of pear puree.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You will add all ingredients to a cocktail shaker with ice, shake vigorously, and strain into a rocks glass and garnish with two grapes. Hold on to your faces and cheers! Some trivia for us is the mask that Michael Myers wore in Halloween was influenced
Starting point is 00:18:00 by the mask in this film. Mmm! And I feel like there's also a film called The Skin I Live In that has a similar kind of mask. So I wouldn't be surprised if this mask influenced a bunch of masks. It's a good mask. It's a good mask. The initial release of this film was met with negative reactions from critics.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And one French critic stated the film was in a minor genre and quite unworthy of Georges Franjou's abilities. So it got pretty bad reviews. And I also read that one reviewer almost got fired for writing it a good review because the publication or whatever was like, no, no, no. People hate this movie. We hate this movie. Write it a bad review. Change your mind. Change your mind.
Starting point is 00:18:56 We're going to get some nasty nightgowns in this movie, except I guess this trivia maybe contradicts that because the gowns are made by Givenchy. So, less nasty. I believe more of it. Givenchy. Excuse me. Givenchy. I don't know if that's how you say it, but I feel like it sounds... You bear des Givenchy. That sounds right.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Um, well, they're nasty. They're nasty, but gorgeous. But gorgeous. They can be're nasty. They're nasty, but gorgeous. But gorgeous. They can be both nasty and gorgeous. Nasty. Beautiful. It's when the film screened at the Edinburgh Film Festival in 1960, it was reported that
Starting point is 00:19:39 seven audience members fainted. We love we love that. Eli. We love that. Eli Roth would love that. Why do you think, do people just like start constricting their breath because they're scared? You know, I think...
Starting point is 00:19:54 I want to know the science behind passing out from fright at a movie. Well, there's people that can pass out at the sight of blood, right? Like, I feel like it must just be people that are super sensitive i always think about you know that one of the first films is that literal like 15 second
Starting point is 00:20:12 clip of a train coming towards the camera it's just called like train coming into the station and the first time that screened because people hadn't seen any movie before everyone like ran out of the theater screaming which i don't know why I thought about that when. Wow. Imagining these people all fainting. So I feel like we're getting more desensitized now, but. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Back in the day, people were probably more sensitive as well. But people still faint in movies now, but they've got to be like audition and green inferno because yeah this isn't this wouldn't do it in this day and age well i'll be the judge of that maybe i'm about to pass out just see your chair flip backwards your feet fly in the air yeah a huge pass out uh it was chosen by entertainment weekly as one of the 100 new classics, ranking as number 74 of the greatest movies of the last 25 years. It's, again, included among the 1001 movies you must see before you die. So I get to cross another one off my list. 998 to go.
Starting point is 00:21:26 There are so many fucking movies. There's so many. It's really overwhelming. Watching a movie like this, watching what I noticed about watching a movie from the 60s, because it's hard for me and my attention span, is you feel accomplished afterwards.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Like, I feel like I just watched a piece of cinema history and it felt like not just watching a movie. Like you did something good and important. Yeah. Gave myself a good pat on the back after finishing it. Yeah, I would. I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It ranked number 27 on Rotten Tomatoes 200 Best Horror Films of All Time. But on another list on Rotten Tomatoes of the 100 films of all time but on another list on Rotten Tomatoes of the 100 best horror films of all time it's number 22 so I'm confused because I feel like that should be that there should be the same number on both of those lists. Wait what was the first list? The 200 best horror movies
Starting point is 00:22:18 of all time versus the 100 best horror movies of all time theoretically should be at the same spot it should have the same but it's 27 on one It should have the same. But it's 27 on one and 22 on the other. If we're including 200, I'm going to put a few more at the top.
Starting point is 00:22:34 You can change my ranking a bit. Interesting, interesting. And I got a little too caught up in Rotten Tomatoes' ranking list because they recently ranked all of Nicolas Cage's movies and because Pig just became his highest rated movie of all time. And I was
Starting point is 00:22:52 really trying to see where Mandy falls into this. Mandy's not included in any of the lists and it's not included in these horror lists either, even though I checked the numbers and it should be on there. So I'm going to must have to email Ron Tomatoes after this.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Write him. That's crazy that Mandy wouldn't be included on his best movies. Yeah. No, I mean, it's just a mistake that I'm going to have to point out. I mean, a sternly worded email is coming their way. Good, good, good. Sammy, you do that and then we'll take down ABC. Yes. One at a time. We're coming for you. Watch out. Watch out.
Starting point is 00:23:24 We're going to write some stern're coming for you watch out well watch out we're gonna write some stern emails you better watch out um that is all the trivia i have so shall we watch this trailer yes Pourquoi mens-tu? Depuis le temps que je te connais, je lis sur ton visage. Dis-moi la vérité. be a good halloween costume that was freaky it's freaky yeah and it's memorable i thought it was gonna be image for sure yeah yeah and that's like music from the film and i think it sounds a little circusy which is kind of funny yeah it's all very like it sounds like yeah like you're like going in circles kind of atmosphere yeah whoa okay okay your interest is peaked this is scary mask it's a hard plastic
Starting point is 00:24:44 that's a hard plastic mask That's tough for you On a lady which we don't often get to see Yeah that's true Is this our first lady in a mask? There were some women who wore masks In the purge In the purge
Starting point is 00:24:58 And strangers Our first like Main one you know Michael Myers ask mask wearer Right Strangers. Our first, like, main one, you know? Yeah. Michael Myers-esque mask wearer. Right. All right, well. Shall we? Let's find out what's up with this woman.
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Starting point is 00:28:52 And we see that this woman is dead. She pulls her out and basically dumps her body in the river on the side of the road and gets back in her car and drives away. Then we see a man, Dr. Genissier, giving a talk on rejuvenation and how the key to that is basically skin transplants and skin grafting. Early days of, I guess, the idea of a facelift is what he's talking about. And there's a lot of rich women in the audience listening to this talk.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You know how rich people are always going and listening to doctors give talks. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's the one thing I know about rich people is they like to listen to doctors. Yes. Yeah. That's the one thing I know about rich people is they like to listen to doctors. Yes. Speak.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And so he's a very serious man, this doctor. And after the talk, a woman comes up to him or two women come up to him to basically compliment him on the speech, say, this is so interesting, the work that you're doing and he's pretty short with them and says thank you and kind of moves along and one of the women says to the other man he's changed so much since his daughter vanished it really made me laugh like they're irked that he's rude to them get over your vanished daughter. Also, vanished is. Yeah. I'm sure that's like some sub. I bet it would be the same as what we would say, like went missing. But right. You've really changed since your daughter.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Man, you've changed. And as he's kind of leaving the building, a man comes up to him, says he had a phone call for him while he was giving his talk and says basically they found a woman's body and they want you to go down to the police station to see if it's your daughter to try to ID it.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Wow, so his daughter went missing very recently. Pretty recently, but he's changed a lot in that time. I mean, he's still giving a talk. Jeez. Yeah, cut him some slack, ladies. We see back at the police station two detectives de-talking. I see. Two detectives de-talking. I see. Detectives to talking.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Detectives to talking. They're talking about the woman, the body that they have brought back to the station, and they say her face is completely... Disfigured? Something. Her face is basically gone, is what they say of this body that they have found. Vanished. Her face is vanished.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And they say that kind of matches up with Dr. Jeannessier's daughter whose face was really badly burned in a car accident. And one of the detectives says but this face looks like the edges of the face almost are cut like it looks almost like straight lines around where the skin is damaged on her regular skin it's like bizarre uh but dr genestier arrives and oh and just
Starting point is 00:32:25 before he arrives the detectives say another young woman is missing as well kind of the same description call her dad in as well we'll see if either of them can ID her Dr. Genestier comes in first looks at her says that's her that's
Starting point is 00:32:41 Christiane and they say are you sure he says absolutely that's her and they give their condolences i'm so sorry and as he's leaving the station the other father is arriving and says was it your daughter um and he says yes and this man is very very distraught he's like are you sure are you sure my daughter's been missing for 10 days and uh dr genesee is like pretty mean to him and says uh he says how odd that you think i should comfort you when you still have hope and my daughter's dead she's like okay i think we can be a little nicer than that but sure i guess he's changed so
Starting point is 00:33:28 much he's changed so much so then we see the same woman from the opening scene that dumped the body kind of walking around the city streets looking at young women that look similar to the young woman that we saw before. It's like an early 20s woman with short, light brown hair and blue eyes. It's black and white, so I only know that because they say that. But we see her kind of looking like she is scoping for someone. And then we cut to the funeral. Dr. Genesier's daughter is being buried. And there's other funeral attendees watching him and his daughter's fiancé kind of mourning saying like this is so awful for them
Starting point is 00:34:30 and we see standing next to them is the same woman that we just saw scoping for women and so she knows them they are all together basically arm in arm. And so we the audience say, uh-oh, what's going on here? Yeah, we got questions. And we learn here that this woman's name is Louise and I
Starting point is 00:34:58 recognized her as the same woman that I loved so much in Suspiria. And it is the same woman. And it just felt exciting to recognize somebody in a movie from 1960. That is cool. She's so great.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Her name is Alida Valli. Wow. and wow she's croatian and but speaks italian english french and serbo croatian and just wow so talented in still alive no she is not still alive but yeah i feel like she's acting in different languages in this movie in that movie and she's equally great in both. This movie was made in the 60s? Yes, and Suspiria, I think, was 72. Wow. It's crazy that the 60s was 60 years ago. It's very crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Because I was like, oh, that's not what happened to her, but probably it was 60 years ago. They're mostly dead, yeah. It is very bizarre watching movies and being like, like yeah they're all dead now they're not all dead but most of them are
Starting point is 00:36:09 that's how time works I guess that is exactly it yeah but it is weird so then the funeral ends and Dr. Genesier and Louise are the last two left. The widowed fiance.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Are you widowed if you weren't married? You know what I mean. Oh, yeah. There probably isn't really a term for that. Probably not. But the fiance leaves. And so it's just Dr. Genestier and Louise. And Louise looks upset and says, can we leave?
Starting point is 00:36:47 Like, I can't take any more of this. I can't take this anymore. And Dr. Genesier slaps her. She's becoming hysterical and basically tells her to get it together. So we know something's going on. And then they head home. And on their drive home, we see that they live basically in a castle. It's a huge home.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And on the road to their castle, there's a sign up that says basically no trespassers. But his doctor's office is on the same premises as his house. So it's two separate buildings, his clinic and his main house. So they go into the main house and there's very long shots of him parking the car, going through the garage door and walking across the foyer of the building, walking up a staircase. There's just like these kinds of things that just don't happen in movies anymore, where it's about five minutes for him to get to the next part of the movie. That's very beautiful, but it is just so funny that I'm
Starting point is 00:38:06 like, oh, people just don't do this anymore. Yeah. So it's just funny to think we need to see his whole walk. And movies are still so long. This movie's pretty short. This is 90 minutes. And five of them are him walking in the house? Yes. I mean, probably more than five. We get more
Starting point is 00:38:21 walking shots later. They just were like, this is a beautiful house. We got to shots later they just were like this is a beautiful house we gotta show them walking around and it is a beautiful house so but so eventually he arrives in a bedroom upstairs and we see a young woman lying face down
Starting point is 00:38:38 on a bed crying and in this room there is a cage of doves and he he goes next to the bed where she is and finds this. Printed out obituary for Christian and basically says, where did you find this? And she's crying and says, what have you done? And he says, I did what needed to be done. And I did it all for you, Christian.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So we are now told that his daughter did not die and that they were trying to do, I guess, a face transplant of that other girl who did die and put her burned skin on this other woman I think that the other woman just had no skin just exposed flesh versus burned skin
Starting point is 00:39:40 I see okay okay and so this was the other guy's daughter yes this that was the other guy's daughter. Yes, this, that was the other guy's daughter. And he said, I went a step, I took a risk and I said that was you so that no one would ask any more questions.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Like we're going to be safe now. And, uh, she eventually lifts her head to look at him and it's filmed very smartly where every time she's facing him it's an over the shoulder behind her so we never see her face but we see his reaction
Starting point is 00:40:12 and he says, Christiane, your mask like you need to get into the habit of wearing your mask and she says, you know my mask scares me more than my face does and he's like, no, you've gotta you've gotta wear your mask and we can see that she's just miserable and hates this situation and is basically just being kept in this room while they're trying to find other women to steal their skin to put it on Christian's face. To put it on Christian's face.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And one thing he says, one thing he says in the lecture earlier is that in order for it to work, you have to be a biological match. But he means like you have to look exactly the same, which is very funny to think that that's how surgery works. Like you just have to look like he doesn't say anything about blood type or anything like that. He's like, you just have to look exactly the same. Well, because it's got to fit over your same skull. So it has to fit right. You have to have the exact same size face. That's very funny. Part of my research as a doctor is I do need to take the face off of somebody else.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Some other person's face. Of course. You'll look great. Some other person's face. Of course. You'll look great. Somebody else will be dead. And so they're clearly fighting and Christiane is not happy with this situation. Dr. Genesier is basically saying, I'm doing this for
Starting point is 00:41:39 you. Once we succeed, you'll see it'll all be worth it. And she eventually tells him to leave. And Louise comes in with the mask that we saw in the trailer, just a white plastic mask, very Michael Myers-esque, as we know from the trivias based on it. And it's very creepy. And she puts it on and we get our first look at her face covered with the mask now and yeah she wears these big elaborate nightgowns and louise says you know it's okay he's he's he's doing his best it's gonna work we're gonna figure this out. And Christiane says something like, he just knows
Starting point is 00:42:26 it was his fault. The car accident was his fault. And he's like doing this for himself to assuage his own guilt. And so Louise leaves her. Christiane is left alone and sneaks out of her room and she's kind of tiptoeing around. Seems as if she's maybe not supposed to be leaving her room. And she creeps around the house and goes downstairs and finds a telephone and she dials a number and we see her fiance answer on the other end and says, hello, hello. She doesn't say anything but she's just listening to his voice longingly like she's she's very sad
Starting point is 00:43:09 fuck he's not in on this he's not in on this also I literally had forgotten she was engaged because part of my thinking was his father feels I mean it's the 60s maybe it's like my daughter will never find love because I made her face ugly I gotta get her a nicer face she was a fuck she is in love with someone she we
Starting point is 00:43:29 didn't even give them the chance to overcome this she's i think she was doing fine she was doing fine yeah the whole premise of this is is is certainly flawed the the motive behind it all is questionable okay so then we see louise outside again on the prowl and she finds a girl alone in line for some like a movie and goes up to her and says i notice you're alone i have an extra ticket for this and the girl's very thankful says oh my gosh that's so nice of you they watch the movie together then they go and grab coffee afterwards and they're sitting and talking and the girl reveals the girl's name is edna and edna says that she needs a room. She's looking for an apartment.
Starting point is 00:44:29 She needs to find somewhere to stay. And Louise says, oh, I have a I have a place. We you can come check it out if you see if you like it. But we haven't we have an empty room that you could rent. She says, oh, my gosh, that's so amazing. So lucky they get in the car and they drive to the house the big castle and as they approach edna's already getting creeped out because it's pretty secluded and they're not not near the city there's no neighbors around and she's getting immediately creeped out and uh they get out of the car and there's a ton of dogs barking
Starting point is 00:45:07 and edna questions that says what's with all the dogs and louise says more to keep you safe you'll be safe here and edna looks suspicious but they go in and open the they open the front door and we see dr jean-acier standing just waiting facing the front door like they basically open the they open the front door and we see dr genesee standing just waiting facing the front door like they basically open the door to him just standing right there and the light hits his glasses in this way that it reflects so his eyes look like they're glowing white like they do in um sin city i feel like elijah wood's glasses like that where it just looks really creepy they're being very creepy they have absolutely no chill at all they're basically operating like maybe michael myers got that from them too yeah exactly they uh are both like what
Starting point is 00:45:52 can we get for you can we get you a drink and you're gonna love it here take a seat please sit here sit here and and it's like um i'm actually in kind of a hurry i'm meeting a friend after this they're like nonsense nonsense sit down let me get you that drink. And she says, well, you know, this is a little far out of the way for me. I'd have to think about it. And they're like, nowhere's better than the suburbs. Nowhere's safer. And she's like, well, I'll need to think about it and I can get back to you tomorrow. And they're like like tomorrow will be too late and like they're just being so weird but and eventually uh dr jean-nissier puts a towel over her mouth with the liquid stuff on it chloroform chloroform she's unconscious and it's almost like why bother
Starting point is 00:46:43 being creepy with like getting her just just do it right off the bat yeah you're you're not fooling anyone so we might as well just fucking go for it get it done maybe they're having fun maybe but so they pick her up and start carrying her into this uh operating room and we see christian watching from above on a staircase and she starts tiptoeing down and following and seeing what's happening and she waits a bit before she goes into the operating room I think she hears the doctor and Louise go out the other side to go prepare for the surgery. And so when she goes into the operating room, the girl is there unconscious on the operating table. And she looks at her face.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And then she passes through the operating room to a door where all the barking is coming from. And she opens it and there's 10 or 15 dogs in cages barking, big dogs and she goes her movement, she's so like ethereal and almost, she just
Starting point is 00:47:58 moves like a little doll, like a little marionette doll or something and she goes and she like pets each one and we see that the dogs have bandages. And maybe some sort of tests are being done on these dogs as well. And we don't like it. And so she goes back into the operating room and takes off her mask. And she walks up to the girl again and touches her face and at that moment Edna wakes up and we get our first look at Christiane's unmasked face and
Starting point is 00:48:39 it's blurry from Edna's point of view as she's of drugged, so it's just a blurry shot of a very heavily scarred, burned face. And Edna starts screaming. Dr. Genesier and Louise come back in and are able to inject her with something that knocks her out again too and they're now dressed for surgery they're in their scrubs and we get the surgery scene which is pretty gnarly for 1960 I feel like it looks I feel like it looks really good for the time. So, and it's long. It's, I feel like about a five minute scene of basically the doctor saying scalpel and getting the scalpel. Or no, first he gets a pencil and draws the line all around the face he says he's gonna this time take the face off as as all one piece and i guess previously he had cut smaller pieces and he thinks
Starting point is 00:49:54 maybe that's why it didn't work and so he says this time we're going to be real careful and we're going to lift off the face as just one big face and so he draws the line first around the whole face and around the eyelids. And then asks for the scalpel. Gets the scalpel and presses it along the line. And it bleeds. And it's like, I'm sure chocolate syrup. But it looks pretty good and starts dripping down. And I'm sure this is when the people were fainting in the, in the theater.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah. And it's just really slow. And so he'll, he'll, he does the scalpel and then he's got scissors that he's cutting the tissue, cutting the tissue away. Cutting the tissue away. And they clamp scissors on any anytime he's done cutting the tissue away. They clamp scissors on it. So it's like all these scissors dangling off her face. That are like clamps.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Ew, it's nasty. And I've actually seen a facelift in real life. In my junior year of high school anatomy class, we got to sign up to go see plastic surgeries and it's fucking gnarly and but it is like this like it's they just snip away at the tissue underneath your skin
Starting point is 00:51:17 fuck yeah it's gnarly so he is snipping at the skin underneath and we see him starting to pull it off and get those clamps on it. And Louise is helping him and eventually they get it all the way around and they each grab a couple of the scissor clamp things and they're able to slowly lift the entire face off and then we see her bloody tissue underneath
Starting point is 00:51:50 and yeah it's just a very well done scene I was impressed by how creepy it looked if you took someone's full face and put it on somebody else's face,
Starting point is 00:52:07 would they look like that? What shapes the face more? The skin or the skull? It's gotta be, I would guess skull. Bone structure, I think. Yeah, okay, yeah. And the fact that there's just no talk of blood type or anything like that is very funny, because that would be the first thing that I think would.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I mean, I obviously I don't know anything about skin grafting or anything like that. But I would imagine that your blood type is like the number one most important thing. But yeah, I would imagine so. Maybe that maybe they didn't know that in the 60s. Maybe they didn't know that in the 60s. Hmm? So, after surgery, we see a man come by with a stray dog and basically gives it to the doctor. Says, another stray dog.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So, we see that he is collecting the stray dogs that are being found in the streets of France, wherever. And he is talking to Louise afterwards and saying, you know, if this is a success, my God, this is this will be huge if this actually works this time. And I've done so much. I've done so much wrong to get here, but it'll be worth it. And he says, and I've done so much wrong to you and put you through so much. And Louise says, but don't ever forget, I owe you my face. And she then lifts up, she wears always these very thick pearl necklaces and she lifts up the pearl necklaces and we see a scar running along her throat. And so we are led to believe that she has received a face transplant from Dr. Genesier, which is a little confusing because it seems like if you've done it successfully before, then why are the stakes so high right now?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, what's up with this? Anyways, but then we see that they have Edna bandaged. She's looking like goodnight mommy, just with bandages wrapped all around her face, locked in a room. And I'm curious what their plan is here with Edna. Yeah, she's seen a lot. I don't, yeah, it's like, are you going to take care of her for the rest of her life?
Starting point is 00:54:27 You think you can let her go and she's just not going to mention it? Or what do you think is going to happen here? So Louise goes in to bring her some food and it's clear that Edna's pretty drugged up still
Starting point is 00:54:44 and as Louise is putting the tray in front of her, Edna pulls a bottle out of somewhere and smashes it over Louise's head and is able to kind of stumble out the door to escape, and she starts making a run for it, and shortly after louise comes to wakes back up and is able to yell down to dr genesee like edna's god she's escaped that way and so this chase ensues they're chasing her and she's running room to room again it's a big mansion she's like not finding her way out and eventually we hear off screen just a scream.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And Dr. Genesier runs into this room where the window is open and looks out the window. And Edna has fallen or jumped, maybe trying to get onto the roof or something, but has like accidentally fallen out of this i think third floor third story window and we see her body laying on the ground below with blood pouring from her head and so she she is dead and louise and dr genissier wrap her up in a little blanket or something and take her to the same cemetery that they were just at burying the other body and they basically toss this new body into the same
Starting point is 00:56:14 grave so this is getting to be real populated oof and then we see at a police station a woman reporting Edna missing who whatever friend she was supposed to meet up with that night. She said she was going to meet up with a friend and basically says she never showed up. And they say, OK, well, what can you tell us about who she was with before?
Starting point is 00:56:39 And this woman just says, I don't really know anything other than she mentioned she had just met a woman in a pearl necklace. And the police officer says, like, oh, it'll look a lot of good. That's gonna do. No, but it's a big pearl necklace. Big, big, big. It's kind of her thing. She uses it to
Starting point is 00:57:00 hide her big neck scar. And I think she has brought along a photo of Edna. And so after she leaves, after having reported this, the police officer is looking at this photo and says, another
Starting point is 00:57:15 of these young girls same age as the last two that are just turning up missing. These blue-eyed girls, basically blue-eyed college students that all kind of up missing. These blue-eyed girls, basically blue-eyed college students that all kind of look alike. And another police officer's in the room interviewing a young woman
Starting point is 00:57:35 and walks over to this guy and says, speaking of young blue-eyed girls, what do I do with this girl? She was shoplifting. And the guy says, just give her a stern talking to it and let her go and so he does and basically says don't do it again they let this girl go uh and then we go back to christian's house to this to the mansion and they're just sitting around eating dinner. Christiane's face looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:06 There's, she's back to normal, it seems, and everything went great. Her skin looks flawless. And they're all... Well, and so what's the plan then, now that people
Starting point is 00:58:21 think she's dead? Yes, so they have a little bit of a talk about that. And the doctor says, basically, I'll get you new papers. We can get you out of the country first. You'll have to build a bit of a life somewhere else first. And then you can come here with a new backstory. And she kind of says. Well what about Jacques. My fiance.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And they're kind of scratching their head at that. And they're like well he might be on board with it. If we told him the truth. But like let me think on it. Like he does love you so much. And the tone of this. This is hopeful. People are feeling.
Starting point is 00:59:02 They're feeling excited. This is a success, at least. A step in the right direction. Sure, there's some stuff to figure out. You know, there's a few roadblocks, but overall, I'd say good news. Great news, yes.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Would you be able to get over it? Having someone else's face? No. Say you're engaged to be married and say they die, as far as you know. And then about a week later you get told, by the way, they never
Starting point is 00:59:34 died, they just were complicit in the murder and face stealing. Would you still love them? Hell yeah. No, I'm just kidding. That's love. I'd have a pretty big problem with it. I think that I would have a bigger problem with Dr. Genesier. I'd be like, okay, great.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You're going to go to jail, though. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be a really hard one to look past. Yeah. We'd certainly have to have some some long talks about it um but they're feeling excited and as dr genesee gets called to the clinic um to tend to one of his patients he goes goes to kiss. Christiane and says. You're not wearing any makeup are you? And she says no why?
Starting point is 01:00:29 And. He says oh nothing. There's just a little flush in your cheeks. And he looks a little. Stressed by this. And Louise follows him out. Noticing this. And says what's going on?
Starting point is 01:00:44 And he says I've failed. Like, I can see that it's doing the same thing that it did last time when it rejected it. And then we get a series of medical photographs, photographs, photographs, photographs of of christianne over the next 21 days as her skin starts rejecting as her body starts rejecting the new skin and it looks really nasty and it's like it's uh the doctor's voiceover describing what's happening and it's like day three it notices the foreign skin and starts attacking it. By day 12, necrosis is happening. The skin has all died. Ew! Oh, fuck! And they'll basically have to again do surgery
Starting point is 01:01:31 to remove the skin that has died, because it's like rotted flesh now on her skin. Ew. Hey, maybe blood type, guys. Blood type could be something to look into. Otherwise, this would have worked perfectly. So, it has failed, and we see Christiane again back in this depression.
Starting point is 01:02:00 She puts the mask back on, and we see Dr dr genesee practicing more on the dogs we see a dog on the operating table thankfully it's just um we don't see any of the actual operating happening it just has a patch of fur that doesn't match the rest of his fur and he's looking at it like hmm yes yes uh and Christiane is just so so sad and so again sneaks out of her room tiptoes down to the
Starting point is 01:02:35 uh room where the telephone is and calls Jacques one more time and he says hello hello who's there this is so frustrating who keeps doing this and she just says Jacques and he says, hello, hello, who's there? This is so frustrating. Who keeps doing this? And she just says, Jacques. And he says, Christiane? And at that moment, Louise walks in, catches her, slams the phone down and says, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:02:56 What are you thinking? Like, you're putting us all in danger. And she's like, who did you call? Who are you talking to? And she says, nobody, nothing. I wasn't doing anything. What? And Christiane just starts.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I'm asleep. Nothing to see here. And Christiane just like breaks down and sobs. And the little tears are rolling down the plastic mask. And she says she just wants to die. She says this is just torture and we're doing such horrible things. And I don't want to live like this. And he's going to keep doing this and keep basically testing on me like one of his dogs.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And I just would rather be dead than do this. Oof. It's very sad. And then we see Jacques at the police station saying, I got a call from Christian. And they basically say, you know, that's not possible. Did you ask Dr. Jeunessey? He says, yeah, I asked him about it.
Starting point is 01:03:59 He said it must be a prank or something. They say, yeah, it probably is a prank. said it must be a prank or something they say yeah it probably is a prank and uh but then the police the detective says like it is weird that all these girls that look alike have gone missing that all all match christian's description and but we don't really we have no leads about anything except for this woman with a pearl necklace and jo for this woman with a pearl necklace. And Jacques says, woman with a pearl necklace? I know a woman with a pearl necklace. And then we see Louise back in her car again, scoping the streets for another young woman to be their next victim.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And back at the police station, they called back in the shoplifter that looked similar to the rest of the girls. Her name is Paulette. And they basically blackmail her into into doing a favor for them where they say. You know, actually, you might have to go to trial you might go to jail you are in trouble though we uh we change our minds upon a further reflection you are in big trouble unless you do this one thing for us so she obviously agrees and they say we'll need you to lighten your hair and check into this hospital and they tell her what to say and uh jacques works at the same hospital that's um how i guess he met christian but so he works with dr genesee and so he's's like, Jacques will tell you what to say. He'll be there. So just to make sure it's all believable and you'll just go in and complain of a pain and
Starting point is 01:05:52 they'll just basically examine you. And I guess their plan is to see if anything out of the ordinary happens. And so she agrees and she goes and checks in and dr jean-nissier comes in and like is basically salivating at the sight of her he like looks like his eyes go wide another perfect match their faces are the same and that's all that matters and apparently their hair and eyes need to be the same color even though we're not taking those. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Some pretty strange standards that we need to meet here. Just sort of completes the mental picture. It's how you know it's the right face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they start doing some tests on her. And Dr. Genesier is basically like, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with her. And you can see he is keen to take her face.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And so he says, we should discharge her tonight. No use keeping a bed free. Like, we'll free up a bed if we discharge her now. And so they send her downstairs to go check out of the clinic. She talks to the woman at the front desk and hands in her whatever paperwork that she needed to sign and uses the phone to call her mom to tell her mom I'm coming home and asks for directions. Where do I go? And they say it's about a 15 minute walk to the bus station. And so she leaves.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And as she steps out onto the street. Louise drives right up and offers her a ride home. She has no detectives following her. Nobody's keeping an eye on her. These are the worst detectives. What is the plan? I don't understand it. detectives following her. Nobody's keeping an eye on her. These are the worst detectives. What is the plan? I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:07:50 What have they been talking about? Like, why are they not keeping eyes on her? It's very strange, but they don't. So she's like, oh, thank you so much. That's so nice of you. Gets in the car with Louise. And then we go back to the police station and see Jacques calling the detectives and being like oh I guess they discharged her and I guess nothing weird happened so I'm sorry for wasting your time
Starting point is 01:08:17 and the detectives are like told you it was all going to be fine but let's just make sure she gets home okay call her mom to make sure she got home. Okay. And we cut to the operating room. They are prepping Paulette for surgery. We are drawing that line around her face again. And then there's a knock or then Louise comes in and says, there's two police officers in the clinic here to see you. He's like, I obviously don't have time for that right now. She's like, I think they're not going to leave until they.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Yeah, that's not really how it works. And so he goes out, walks from his main house to the clinic in full scrubs, which I think is automatically suspicious. Like, why are you wearing scrubs in your home? You're literally dressed for surgery right now. Like, he's not just in scrubs. He has his, like, gloves and, like,
Starting point is 01:09:18 surgical apron and mask on and his, like, hair net. It's like, you don't wear that at home, sir. Anyways. Well, you shouldn't. that at home, sir. Anyways. We shouldn't. Again, these detectives are not the best. So he goes into the clinic and they ask him about Paulette. They say she's involved in an investigation we're working on.
Starting point is 01:09:40 We're wondering if you've seen her. And he goes over to the front desk woman and they find the paperwork that she checked out and he basically says see she checked out once a patient goes through those doors they're not my responsibility anymore like i don't know where she is and they're like okay great thank you so much for your time jacques comes out finishing up his day of work and he says jacques can you go see these men out they all walk to their cars and jacques again just apologizes for wasting their time and says i'm so sorry and that they say that's okay like a lot of our job is following up dead leads like this happens all the time and
Starting point is 01:10:24 we're so good at it so don't even worry about it it was just really blowing my mind how much how little they did to actually try to see if anything was going on so i know that i've talked about this before how in move in today's movies detectives are so good they're so good in fact everyone's a detective. It's like they're basically superheroes. Remember in Seven, there's like a part where there's a piece of plastic in one of the victim's
Starting point is 01:10:54 stomachs and so they realize that it's being it was carved from the floor of the kitchen so they pull the refrigerator forward and see a message carved behind. Like there's so many steps that they do. So many steps. And these guys are doing
Starting point is 01:11:10 zero steps. They're doing zero steps. They're like, okay. Okay. Well, I don't want people to do this job. It's so easy. So they all leave. They go home and back in the operating room, we see that Christiane is in there alone with Paulette. And she again walks up to her, touches her face.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And Paulette wakes up and starts screaming. And Christiane grabs a scalpel. And Paulette is crying. She's like handcuffed to the bed as well. And or tied to the bed. And Christiane takes the scalpel and cuts the ties to the bed, lets her go, opens the door, lets her run out. And after she runs out, Louise walks in and says christian what are you thinking what are you doing comes up to her christian stabs her in the neck with the scalpel
Starting point is 01:12:14 just freaking pokes it right in stabs it right in and sticking out it's really gross and louise looks very shocked and kind of stumbles backwards and falls and dies oh and then christian walks into the room with the dogs and starts opening all the cages of the dog cages and all the dogs start running out she goes back to her room with the the doves lets all the doves out of the cages. I guess there's another dove cage, too. So now there's like birds flying around, dogs running free. And again, she's walking in this very funny way. You know what? Exactly what she looks like.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And if Henley were here, she would know. And I'm hoping maybe you've seen this image of Mr. burns in the simpsons where he is high on something and his pupils are huge and he's basically like tiptoeing through the woods i don't remember what he's high on but she looks like that that she's got big mr burns on hallucinogenic drug drugs and energy and uh we see dr uh genesee walking back towards the main house from the clinic and as he approaches it all the dogs are running out and they all attack him and start okay these dogs know who their enemy is they know and they start start basically ripping him apart. And the way that this scene is filmed, I was trying to find some actors rights issues because it looks like there's no way they could have safely filmed this in the 60s. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:13:58 But I couldn't find anything. So nothing bad must have happened. But there you can see that he has a lot of padding on him. So they're biting his arms and his stomach. And you could see that he has a lot of padding on him so they're biting his arms and his stomach and you could see that he's padded but his head is out and there's just 10 dogs biting him that'd be very scary so fucking scared filming that scene um but i guess it was fine because i couldn't find anything it's fine still actor's rights yeah I still think it was probably not great. My senses were tingling that there was some actor's rights violations happening, regardless of the outcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:35 And so, Christiane, after she has freed everyone, one of the doves lands on her shoulder. freed everyone. One of the doves lands on her shoulder and she's walking out in her Mr. Burns walk, sees her father torn apart and disfigured and seems unaffected by it
Starting point is 01:14:55 and just walks into the night, into the forest and that's the end of the movie. She's just walking to her freedom. Wow. and that's the end of the movie so we're just walking to her freedom wow it's a pretty good movie I really liked it alright and I mean okay
Starting point is 01:15:14 90 minutes for a movie in the 60s I feel like is a freaking quick ride yeah yeah that kind of rules yeah I really like it and the like idea of like I'm thinking of it as a reflection of the importance we place on physical appearance is all I could think about. She'd rather be dead than not stunningly beautiful. Or at least her father would rather that.
Starting point is 01:15:42 You can't go into the world not looking anything less than perfect is really disturbing to me. Yeah. And those beauty standards. And I read in something that it was like also the fact that you have to then take that from something. Someone else is an interesting commentary on like, I can't be pretty unless you're ugly type of thing. Oof. Oof. But yeah, I can't be pretty unless you're ugly type of thing. Oof. Oof. But, yeah, I really liked it.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I really liked it. Listeners, give it a watch. It's on HBO Max. And I guess I'll become a detective after this because it's so easy. It seems like you could do it, yeah. I think I could do it. You'd be very good at it. Previous movies have made me think I'd be very bad at it but not this one were you correct about um i know very little about this show because
Starting point is 01:16:30 i didn't watch it but i know you had a hunch about click mayor of east town were you correct no not even close damn damn here's the thing i'm very rarely correct but i believe so strongly in myself i'm like this is absolutely it. I feel like it's the only aspect of my life where that is true. It's watching murder mysteries. I feel like in everything else, it's like you do do a good job, but I'm just like, you're so bad. You suck. But when I'm watching or reading a murder mystery, I'm like, you fucking know things that nobody else knows. And it's never never true but it's because there's so many traditional like tricks and things that they do in murder mysteries to lead you to think certain ways that i'm always like well it's not
Starting point is 01:17:18 that because that's what they want me to think and then the trick is to make literally every single person a suspect and that's how you really confuse people but truly almost nobody got mayor of east town i was looking at articles articles leading up to the finale of the kind of ranking of who's the most suspicious who's the most likely and i went back and looked at him later, none of them, none of them had the actual killer, even ranked in it at all. Pretty impressive on Mayor of Easttown's part
Starting point is 01:17:52 to make it a completely unpredictable killer. Dang. Yeah, that's hard to do. That's hard to do. Congratulations, Mayor of Easttown. She's a great detective. That's hard to do. Congratulations, Mary Vistar. She's a great detective. She's a great detective. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, we got to do a French accent. Oh, fun. The French. Okay. French. The French.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Be our guest. From all of us here at Tusker oh boy at Tusker didn't watch Tusker didn't watch Tusker didn't watch Tusker didn't watch
Starting point is 01:18:40 Tusker oh it's Tusker oh my goodness goodbye goodbye goodbye Oh, it's too scary. I might be into watching. Au revoir. Au revoir. Goodbye. Au revoir.
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