Too Scary; Didn't Watch - FINAL DESTINATION with Silent Jenna

Episode Date: April 21, 2021

A premonition, a plane crash, and high school students that should think twice before confidently proclaiming that they're going to live forever - we're recapping Final Destination! This week we are joined by our very own Silent Jenna a.k.a. Jenna McDowell a.k.a. the fourth witch in our coven. We will be discussing a movie she loved so much in the year 2000 that she wrote an essay about it! Final Destination is available to rent for $2.9900:00 - Shoutouts02:43 - Episode Starts14:26 - Trivia29:22 - Recap Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I think it has favorite potential here it is this is Emily Henley and Sammy and you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies.

I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies and I like telling these two about them and we do them and we record it and we make a podcast. Those are the steps. And we do them and we do them and we record. Really taking us through the process. Soup to nuts. Excellent.

Soup to nuts? Soup to nuts. I've not heard that phrase. You haven't? Oh, I've heard soup to nuts. I don't understand what it means, but I've definitely heard it so many times. Like, what is the soup and what are the nuts? But soup to nuts.

It's a thing. A to Z. heard it so many times like what is the soup and what are the nuts but soup to nuts it's a thing maybe you maybe if i was about to say it's like the start of a meal is soup and then you end your meal with some nuts but yeah i don't think you end your meal with nuts i don't know about that a little post-dinner nut snack yeah yeah it's like if you're a little hungry at the end of the night you might have some nuts i want to look at where that's from but anyway how are we what's up clearly clearly we're pretty good pretty good um i have exciting news for all of our listeners, which is that we have merch available to purchase. It's huge news. It's big news.

And it's posted on Redbubble. And their site's a little bit confusing. Just a disclaimer there that it basically organizes it by design type. And you have to click on each thing to see what items are available in that type. So I don't know. Good luck to you. We wish you the best. We wish you the best. And we will put a link to it on our Instagram and I'll add it to our website, which is twoscary't watch dot com um so check it out I hope you guys like the designs

that we made they made me laugh so credit to Sammy they're really freaking awesome and she did it because she's the best yeah thank you Sammy Sammy did the whole thing I had fun and I hope you guys like them yeah I mean we freaking love them.

Sammy's a full disclaimer wearing one of the shirts right now and it looks fucking good. It looks so good. Yeah, I'm very happy with my purchase. Wow. It really is exciting. Also Soup to Nuts is from

a full course dinner from the 1800s where you at the end of the meal would have port with nuts. We should bring that back. Good to know. Let's bring back ending your meal with dessert wine and nuts. Mmm, yum. Yummy in my tummy. Feels like nuts you shouldn't eat so late at night.

Hard to digest. All right. We don't need to get into that. What's up with you guys? Emily, you go. Oh, I remembered. I wanted to talk about... I'm going to check out a thing I watched.

I feel like we haven't done that in a little bit. It's been a while. It's been a while. At least two weeks. At least two weeks. Which is also an eternity. I watched, and I'm curious if you guys watched it. It's on Hulu.

It's like a theatrical performance that was turned into a special. Magician guy. Yes, in and of itself. I had been told to watch it, and I didn't know much about it. And I finally sat down with it the other night and I really enjoyed it I think it is best now I'm like why am I talking about it because I'm about to say

I think it's best the less you know about it but I'll just say it was lovely and fascinating and cool it was fucking cool I will second that wholeheartedly I watched it a couple months ago, I guess, when it came out on Hulu. And I just feel like it must have been such an insane experience to get to be there in person. And there's truly what you said, the less you know the better i'd say also treat it like going to an actual performance i did like yes they say like put your phones away i made myself a little cocktail and i

pretended i was literally in the audience and it was a fun little like night out quote unquote because it's very it is like it feels like you're at the theater like that is it like feels like a theater night feature re ending um and and that's cool but yeah it's like it doesn't feel like a movie it feels like it but yeah you're at the theater um i just really i really enjoyed it and i recommend it um and the performances when they were doing live performances all happened in New York. And it made me feel so excited for when I get to go back to see some live theater in New York. Yeah. Yeah. That is the thing that New York definitely has going for it. Yeah. And just all the things that New York has to offer that we haven't been able to take advantage of because of COVID.

I'm excited to really like wrap my arms around them. Yeah. Experience the city that you've lived in for almost a year now. The only thing I wanted to bring up is that I don't know whether I've told you guys this or not. And I really don't want to harp on this whole pregnancy thing, but I am pregnant. And one of the crazy things that happens is that when the baby is inside of you, they get the hiccups like all the time. And so I feel this little tiny fetus inside of me hiccuping like all day, all the time. And apparently it's completely normal, but it's a very crazy sensation. That's so weird. I never heard of this before being

pregnant. And I didn't know if like, is this is this disgust? Do people know this? It's wild. I feel like in general, pregnancy and birth are not discussed until they're happening to you. It's so true. I have learned so much more about what it is. Like you, you find out nothing if you are not a pregnant person or no pregnant person very closely. Like there's why would you why would you know anything? Right. Like, what am I going to do? Go look up pregnancy shit right now? Yeah, no, of course not um henley my question to you is did you just feel

interesting tiny little like jumps and then look up what is this and it and it's like how did or is it a mother's intuition um wow i wish i hope i have mother's intuition so far that has not kicked in. Um, no, actually I have an app, um, called what to expect. And they, every week they kind of give you like a heads up about things you might be experiencing. And it was through that app that I was like, Oh, that's what that fucking is. Like that's what's happening. Um, and so that's what that fucking is like that's what's happening um and so that's that's how I found out about it honestly but yeah wild yeah it's really crazy hiccups little tiny tiny tiny tiny hiccups little baby hiccups it's adorable but also probably keeps you awake at night sometimes it's just distracting and a little like disconcerting sometimes.

I'm just like, what is inside of me? Oh, I don't know. But yeah, it's really cute. Mostly. Well, you know what's not cute? Tell us. I'm just trying to think of a transition. And that's as good as it's going to get for you guys today.

I'm just trying to think of a transition and that's as good as it's going to get for you guys today is some good old-fashioned horror movies and this week we are talking about Final Destination wow it's a big one it's a huge this is a milestone for us you

guys it's a milestone for sure it came out in 2000 directed by James Wong not James by James Wong, not James Wan, James Wong, written by Glenn Morgan, James Wong, Jeffrey Reddick, and starring

Devin Sawa, Allie Larder, Sean William Scott, Oh my God. Kara Smith, Kristen Cloak, and Tony Todd. And it is available to rent for $2.99. Wow.

Wow. The year 2000. Wow. Emily, you've never seen this, right? I have seen moments of it, like on TV at friends' houses around the year 2000. But I couldn't, I think there's a roller coaster at some point well that's the other thing is that yeah there are a lot of these films so there is a roller coaster in one of them i think that's number three that is not yeah so i don't know i i do know unlike i sometimes don't i do

know the general premise of this one i yes i know the general premise of this one. Yes, I know the general premise of this one as well. The premise is great. It's great. I'll just say that this is one of our very own Silent Jenna's, a movie that she had been excited for us to do for a long time and everyone be cool about it, but she is

here with me currently. Everybody just be fucking cool, okay? can you just calm down can everyone just calm down she's here but it's like chill okay just she notoriously does nobody she does not like to speak hence the silent jenna nickname but she does have a microphone and if she feels so inclined she may chime in with a thought or two because she loves this movie a lot. And just to get us excited, she wrote an essay on this movie in what, like eighth grade ish. And we might get to hear a couple lines of it after we recap because they're a little spoilery.

But just you got that to look forward to. Maybe just be cool, though. No one look her directly in the eye. Yeah. Welcome to Cocktail Hour, everybody. This week, we will be drinking a final word. This week we will be drinking a final word. A final word is a variation on the last word, which is one of Jenna's favorite cocktails.

I think she likes this one too. They're both very good. To make a final word, you will need three quarters an ounce of rye whiskey, three quarters an ounce of green chartreuse, three quarters an ounce of Luxardo Maraschino liqueur, and three quarters an ounce of Luxardo Maraschino liqueur, and three quarters an ounce of fresh squeezed lemon juice. You will shake all those ingredients with ice and fine strain into a chilled martini glass and garnish with a lemon zest twist and cheers to living forever. I have some trivia for us. So the budget was $23 million. Box office made $113 million.

Good. Not like incredible. I mean, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I would be pleased. It's pretty good. Pretty good. And then this actually was surprising to me.

It has a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 36% on Metacritic. 6.7 on IMDb because that's what everything has on IMDb. Right. I'm surprised by that, too. Is there a reason for that? Like, I feel like it's such a popular movie that's so well loved by so many people. I'm confused. I mean, it's like this very it feels very 2000 D, but I don I don't know. I don't, I, I was trying to use came from. Yeah. I mean, that was,

that was the time that it was made, but yeah, I was trying to think of why it would be so negatively reviewed. And I think I, I personally think it's a really unique premise and I'm very glad that this movie was made. Cause it's just, it's hard to make a unique horror movie and it's like it's of course like kind of following some of the slashery tropes

and but i overall i mean the quote-unquote like villain bad guy has not it's only in this movie that nobody else has ever done this I don't think it's yeah is it did people think that it's like gratuitous like I feel like maybe like that's the one memory I have sorry Jenna um because I well I know

because it's like it is slashery right like in the it's just a lot of deaths so yeah you know and I think 2000 might have been a time where people were like this. We don't do this. This is too. Yeah, too gross. We don't like Britney Spears. We don't like horror movies.

That's what you got to know about us. The world in 2000. And I do think that that is something that like with other kind of franchise horror movies like Saw, they kind of ramp up as they go. And it becomes maybe, I don't even want to say gratuitous, because I really just feel like these are just like inventive ways to die. Like they're just trying to do different deaths each time. And yeah, they do get gross but not in the same way that saw does i don't think it's just kind of like different ways to die i have a feeling that as we go through this and i learn what actually happens in this movie

some of my fears about like a like uh accidental deaths probably do come from some knowledge of this movie in the back of my brain. Right. Definitely. Well, you already said this one isn't the rollercoaster, but I'm very scared about the possibility of dying on a rollercoaster. I mean, that kind of even reminds me of cursed films

of just like the fact that death can happen at any moment is very scary. Like you could literally die doing anything at any time. And that's kind of what cursed films got into is that the human brain searches for ways to rationalize that. And if there's a curse, then there's a reason that it's not just meaningless and random, but that the reality is that it is meaningless and random. And so I think, yeah, Final Destination is playing into those fears of like, yeah, you could absolutely die on a roller coaster. You could die in all these

various ways in a tanning bed. That's also not this one, but another famous one. Oh, right. That's bad. That's a bad one. That's a really bad one. Yeah, right. That's bad. That's a bad one. That's a really bad one. Yeah, yuck. Yuck. Okay, sorry. Trivia. I got carried away.

More trivia for us. Okay, this one is specifically for a certain subset of our audience that likes a certain show called Riverdale. Oh. Which, this just blew my mind, and Jenna told me this while we were watching it. There's a guy in this, Kerr Smith is the actor, he's playing a character named Carter, a high school student.

And he is the same actor that plays Principal Honey. Which is just, like, I would have never known this was the same person and it just really it it aged me knowing this but to be fair he was 28 filming this so he was a 28 year old playing a high school student so he's now i guess 49 but uh mr honey wow yeah so any Riverdale heads out there, go back and rewatch Final Destination and see Principal Honey in his youth. In his youth. Right in his prime. Mm-hmm. And this is interesting.

The story was originally an X-Files script that they had abandoned. And the director, James Wong, is a, he has directed and produced a lot of X-Files. So I'm thinking that he was maybe in the writer's room or something and was like, well, I'll take this and make a movie out of it. Suckers.

I feel like it's pretty crazy that X-Files was like, no, we'll pass on this one. Seems pretty weird. I wonder like it's pretty crazy that X-Files was like, no, we'll pass on this one. Seems pretty weird. I wonder why it made it too gratuitous. It was too gratuitous. Too gratuitous. That's fascinating.

This one really made me laugh. In the opening scene, Devin Sawa was supposed to pretend to be asleep, and he actually fell asleep for four hours. That's the dream, man. You want to be asleep in this scene? Okay. I just love the idea of like crew moving lights and like do we wake him up or

Well, he would just have to go back to sleep, so I guess he's sleeping. I suppose the one concern would be that he would actually wake up while you're shooting and then you have to be like damn it we lost that take as you look it is very funny to imagine the whole crew just being like just let him sleep it's so believable um and the there's like a shot in this movie that i said out loud to jenna that it's very cool

it zooms into his bedside clock like a digital alarm clock interface and transitions into the departure time on a board at the airport and i was was like, oh, that was a pretty cool shot. Like it looked really good. And especially for 2000. And I just noticed this in the trivia. So I had to write it down. It took five days to get that specific shot. What? What? That's so crazy. Who approved that? That never happens where someone's allowed to take five days for one shot. We gotta get the shot. We gotta. No way. Okay.

Interesting. If you're the rest of the crew on that shoot, you're like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Again? Again? This shot still? We're still on this shot? That seems like it can't be true like it's so crazy i mean maybe i mean we trust we always trust this we trust imdb yeah the user submitted trivia

it can never be wrong it's always right agree um and then last thing is that the original casting choices for Alex and clear who are played by Devin Sala and Allie Larder were Toby McGuire and Kristen Dunst. Kirsten Dunst. Oh my God. Excuse me. And both actors appear together in Spider-Man baby. That's right.

And that's all I got. Should we watch the trailer? Oh my God. baby. That's right. Um, and that's all I got. Should we watch the trailer? Oh my God. Yes. I'm so excited. The year 2000 is really fun to watch anything from. I think I agree. Oh,

the lowest pants with a frayed hem. Cause, cause they were too long, but you wore them with flip flops. That was every pair of pants I owned. Remember when we thought that the world was going to end when it turned midnight at 2000? And then everybody was like, just kidding, just kidding. It's 2001 is when it's going to happen.

So every hold off, it's going to happen again in a year is when it's actually going to end. Yeah, it's like on every tabloid and every grocery store was just like the world is ending in four days because the computers won't know how to switch to the next what are they gonna do they're gonna explode and we're all gonna die like what was the thinking like yeah the computers won't be able to know what effect will that have on like planes will crash like the electrical grid will go down yes yes i think it was that what was it called there was like a term for it y2k oh y2k y2k y2k baby so let's go back put yourself back in that mindset before we watch this we just survived Armageddon and now we are

feeling emboldened to re-examine our relationship with death and what better way to do it than by a Final Destination movie it's the best way to do it I got this feeling this weird feeling a cabin starts to shake I got this feeling.

This weird feeling. The cabin starts to shake, right? And the left side blows up, and then the whole plane just explodes. The plane's gonna explode! It's not a joke! It's not a joke! We get thrown off the plane all because Browning has a bad dream? I saw it. The plane! It's gonna blow up! It's gonna blow up!

All 287 passengers are feared dead. Because of you, I'm still alive. In death, there are no accidents. No coincidences. And no escapes. Did it happen again? Did you see Todd die? What if it was our time?

What if we were not meant to get off that plane? What if there is a design? Then it's not finished. By walking off the plane, you're shooting death. You have to figure out when it's coming back at you. What do you got now? He knows which one of us is next. You have a responsibility to tell me.

I knew I should have hit on Tammy in the pool that time. I'm not gonna let it happen, okay? Nobody has control over life and death. Unless they are taking lives. And causing death. Honestly, I'm so amped for this one. I am so excited. Also, Candyman.

Yeah, I forgot he's in this. Tony Todd. Yep. He's in this and he's great. Wow. He's the good. He's the like harbinger of death. Like I was thinking of in Cabin in the Woods,

what the guy Mordecai, the old warning from a stranger. He's like that character that's like, you better, you got, you're in deep trouble. You do the death. Ooh, ooh, ooh. I forgot about the element. Again, I haven't seen this, but I do like know, I I knew it's a plane crash but they don't get on the plane and then it's like death is coming for you but I didn't realize that one of the kids is like I saw it happen like that is a lot of responsibility to be like I saw

us all die oh I I I guess I'm communicating with death that That's not fun. And then to feel responsible for all the future deaths, actually. Tough. Yeah. Ooh. Also, I'm really glad you told me that that's Mr. Honey because I could see it. Then I was like, oh my God, it's Mr. Honey. Isn't it wild? But if you hadn't told me, I wouldn't have known.

I don't know who Mr. Honey is. I can't remember who he is. That's because you need to catch up on Riverdale. I feel so left out. Principal Honey. Henley, Principal Honey. Ring a bell. I feel't know who Mr. Honey is. I can't remember who he is. That's because you need to catch up on Riverdale. I feel so left out. Principal Honey, ring a bell. It does ring a bell, but honestly, I can't picture the face. Even after seeing the trailer, I had no idea which one is

Honey. I'm so excited. I think the style choices are so good. I mean, remember how people used to wear khakis like all the time? Khakis were a regular part of your wardrobe. Everyone had khakis. Like everyone had khakis.

Yeah. Yeah. Where did that go? What happened to that? Khakis used to be part of my school uniform in elementary school and middle school. There we had to wear like a stupid polo shirt with our school and like khakis. You could wear khaki pants, navy pants or black pants or like short skirts, whatever. But so khakis were a staple.

A big, big part of my wardrobe. I feel like this was like a time for Capri's too. Capri's definitely. We didn't see any in the trailer, but I think at at this time that's what i was wearing a lot of definitely caprice um the every boy and i'll say boy in this movie has hair that looks like if you touch it it would really hurt like very very sharp sharp hair very straight very sharp like as like every strand points out at a new angle yeah i remember the boys in middle school used to go to like the water fountain and put water in their hair and make it stick up straight

i remember that too i have so stupid because like dude it's gonna dry that is but for those 15 minutes it was perfect that's why you gotta keep going back just keep that up every 15 minutes, it was perfect. That's why you got to keep going back. You just keep that up every 15 minutes for a full school day. Oh, you got perfect hair. You know that's who won the superlatives were those guys. Oh, yeah. The water fountain boys. Water fountain hotties.

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yes i think that he is casper isn't he oh he's the voice of casper and then he turns into like a little boy he does yeah and it's devin sawa did you just have a crush on the ghost? I'm pretty sure you just had a crush on the ghost. I'm pretty sure it was just the ghost. Wait, Sammy, you said that as if we probably definitely did have a crush. Does that mean you had a crush? Well, he was a big heartthrob in, I feel like, the 90s after Casper fame. It was like Devon Sawa, JTT. This was like of

the same kind of era and I feel like about the same level of fame. I did like JTT, but not a huge crush. I had a huge crush on Ryder Strong, aka Sean from Boy Meets World. Oh, okay, okay.

I remember him and I think I probably had a crush on him too. I don't mind telling you guys that literally at that age, what was that like 10-ish? I had a crush on George Clooney, the adult man, gray hair already. Honestly, this is really telling. This is like, this makes a lot of times. I literally would have dreams that we were married and in love. And I would wake up with that heartache that only 10-year-olds can have. I would feel it in my whole body. Like, oh my God, I'm never going to be married to George Clooney. And I'm so upset about it. I think I probably have cried about it a few times in my life.

If only you knew that your age was not the biggest barrier. Yeah, I know. I know. That's pretty fucked up, but true. Is it because you're watching a lot of ER, right? Was that what he was in? Yeah, but I didn't watch ER, so I'm not sure where even I knew him from. Yeah, where the hell were you watching him then?

Because he wasn't in a lot of stuff then. I don't know. He was just in magazines and I liked what I saw. You liked what you saw. I love how I had a crush on Casper and you had a crush on George Clooney. Like, you were really different places in life at that time. Okay, I just thought we should all

figure out who each other's childhood crushes were. None of ours were Devon Sawa, so we can move forward. We can move forward. Okay, mine was mostly the youngest Hanson, though. Okay, yeah, that's a good one. Jenna's was too, I know. I like him a lot. And I like Devon Sawa.

I wrote him a fan mail. You wrote Devon Sawa a fan mail? No, no, the youngest. No, the youngest Hanson. I had Matthew Lawrence from Boy Meets World. I had a picture of him in my wallet. Oh, I love Tim too. Matthew Lawrence wasn't in Boy Meets World. Yes, he was briefly. Right. The brother in college with the

redhead girlfriend. That sounds right to me. I had a really big crush on Justin Timberlake, which I now absolutely hate. But I loved NSYNC and I loved Justin Timberlake and I was young and naive. God, did you guys. sorry that we're harping on the childhood crushes so much I feel like this is a fun topic and I know every everybody has something to say about it did you guys have um like binders that you would cut out magazine pictures of the boys that you liked and glued them glued photos

to the binders of course yeah of course but i'm inside of your locker cork board in my bedroom oh the all the the boys from gilmore girls i remember that being a thing people loved them i loved my love and amelia at that time interesting oh i never watched okay okay i never watched no not, not now. Not now. Yeah, no. If I showed you a picture, it's it's my moody, sexy freak. OK, OK. It's your jughead of the time. It's my jughead of the time, I believe. Yes. Got it. I don't know who I had a crush on. Now I'm like thinking about it. And who did I have a crush on? Literally besides the youngest Hanson brother. about it and who did I have a crush on? Literally besides the youngest Hanson brother.

That was it. That was it. And you know why I had a crush on him? It's because we looked exactly the same. We looked exactly the same. And like, because this is in like first or second grade. Like shoulder length blonde hair. Yeah.

And also he was like seven and I was like seven when I had a crush on him too. And that's all I know about that. They were very talented. They were very talented. You were attracted to their amazing talent. Mostly it was his talent I was attracted to, yes, as a six-year-old. I'm just remembering a magazine cut out that I cut out a lot of pictures of Jude Law.

I guess that was a little later. Oh, man. I only liked adult men, apparently. Honestly? No seven year olds for me. Oh, boy. I guess this is this is a little too telling. We should move on.

Let's move on. OK, so we meet Alex. um okay so we meet alex so he it's the night before he's going on a trip with his french class to paris and he his parents are talking to him saying like you you know, oh boy, you're going to have a wild time. This is so crazy that you're going to Paris. And his dad says to him, you're going to have a great time and you've got your whole life ahead of you. And for some reason, this really makes Alex stop and look a thousand miles, stare into the distance. He has a little existential crisis. Yes, like he already is having

some strange, confused little feelings about life and death. And he's already thinking about it. He goes to bed. We see his alarm clock fade into the departure time at the airport.

And we all think, God, that was worth it. Five days worth of work for sure. Totally worth it. And we see some of the students from the French class arriving to the airport.

We're kind of getting a little taste of each of their personalities. We got our jock guy who is his name is carter played by care smith who is principal honey and his girlfriend terry so he's kind of the jock with his like girlfriend who personality is just girlfriend i guess and then we meet todd who is alex's best friend and Todd's brother, George. These are all just like high school kids excited to be going on a trip and they're a little rambunctious.

And then we get our weird girl who is no friends, just kind of in the background like, excuse me, excuse me. This is Allie Larder. Her name is Clear Rivers. Okay. Also, I love it when the weird girl is like Allie Larder is so beautiful. I know. That's the first thing I said was she's so beautiful. She just gave Allie Larder brown hair and we're like, there it is. Weird.

There it is. To be fair, the bangs do look bad on her. Yeah. I mean, her hair doesn't look good in the trailer. I'll give you that. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But the bangs do look bad on her. Yeah, I mean, her hair doesn't look good in the trailer. I'll give you that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And then they're basically being chaperoned by two teachers, the French teacher and just another teacher named Mrs. Luton. And Alex, throughout this whole airport boarding experience, is looking around. He is still freaked out by everything and yet ally larder's the weird one okay he's like as he's checking in the the person checking him in says oh 9 9 25 same as your birthday uh the departure time is 9 25 his birthday is september 25th and he looks at her kind of shocked it's like oh thank you and it's all done in this very like type of way um but it does feel stressful it makes you know that something is coming he is on edge shall we say and he sees them tag his bag and it says final destination paris so real quick you love it um and uh then as he's he's about or no no they're waiting in the boarding

area and his his best friend todd tells him that they're both they're seated next to two hot girls that in their grade and he says um like we're gonna have to poop on the flight and we don't want to poop and like bring a poop smell back near them and have them associate us with poop smell so we gotta go take a shit right now clear out our systems fool proof logic so they go to the poop smell back what my question would be dude what are you doing when you're in the bath like why are you bringing a poop smell back he's super passionate about it, too. He's like, no, this is I don't actually know his name, but no, it's not Sean William Scott.

But so then they go to the bathroom and we get like an overhead shot of the stalls of them pooping next to each other. and then um alex hears john denver playing on the bathroom radio and kind of gets a look in his eye and says john denver died in a plane crash and he's freaked out like you can tell he is getting nervous of this flight he's seen too many coincidences happen he's just not feeling pumped about getting on this plane um but they they start boarding as he boards and he's stepping into the plane he looks down on the little gap between the walkway and the plane and sees a a baggage truck drive by that says number 666 on top of it and it's just like oh boy all these bad signs are happening. He gets onto the plane and he goes and sits in his seat. And we see the two girls that are supposed to be seated next to each of them come up to Todd and say, can you switch spots with us so that we can sit next to each other?

So it could be two friends sitting next to each other. Todd's like, hell no. I have an issue, some sort of health issue that... What is it? It's like stupid because he's scared that he's going to smell like poo, but then he's like, I have a UTI infection. Right. He says he has a UTI, so he can't switch

spots. I don't know why. That doesn't make any sense. But it's like, you should be worried about saying that and not the poop smell. So he refuses and they go back to talk to uh alex and ask him and we see todd looking at him going no no no say no say no say no and alex i have uti also and alex can't do it and he says yeah sure um i'll swap with you and todd is pissed and they switch spots and so alex goes and sits next to todd and as he sits down he goes to open the little food tray thing the handle the latch breaks and falls off and just like everything

is going wrong and again he's like this is a bad omen he's not feeling good we see sean william scott boarding the plane late kind of flustered um and he's like i'm here i made it i made it and alex is just super anxious he kind of puts his seatbelt on leans back in his chair, closes his eyes. They take off and he's gripping the arm rests and everyone's cheering like, yeah, we're going to Paris. It's so exciting.

As they reach the, I don't know, top of the climbing altitude sort of, the plane starts to shake. Everyone starts to get a little nervous and the turbulence stops and they're ready to get a little nervous and then the turbulence stops and they're ready to do a big old fuf everything's great we're all gonna live forever and then the turbulence starts again uh much more intense this time. And everyone kind of starts screaming and freaking out.

The little masks drop. It starts to become clear that this isn't just regular turbulence. And eventually we see like sparks happening of like fire breakout on one half of the plane. And one of the doors flies off of the other half of the plane like something something hits it off and people are starting to get sucked out of the plane screaming people are flying out it's complete chaos it's very stressful and the scene's a couple minutes long like It just really... You're in it for all of it. You're really

seeing everything happen. And then there's an explosion on the side of the plane and the flames come toward Alex and hit his face and you see his face melt completely

off, like shows his face melting off. And then he wakes up back in his seat with the two girls asking. And on set. Yeah. This was him waking up for real. This was not acting. And he wakes up to the two girls asking him to switch spots again

and so he realizes he's just had a premonition and oh got it because they interesting okay because of the girls that's how he knows yeah so he's like basically gone back in time and time ish and he immediately stands up and starts completely freaking out like he he just jumps out of his seat and he's like we've all got to get off the plane the plane's gonna explode we got to get off the plane or no he first goes to yeah i think he thinks it's like a bad dream and maybe he like had a nightmare and then he wakes up and then he goes to switch spots and then he goes to check the thing which now i do every time i want to play and the latch is broken again and so that part is true and so he pieces it together yeah like okay it wasn't just a dream spooky that would be scary he just starts completely freaking out, as you would. And nobody is taking him seriously, obviously, because although I mean, I feel like I would.

I think if anyone got up on a plane and was like, this plane's going to explode, I would get off the plane. What would you guys do? Get off. Just in case. Fuck. I feel like it'd just be uncomfortable to be on the plane for 12 hours anyway. I don't know what I would do, honestly. It would depend. I think if

one guy who seemed not in his right mind started freaking out about the plane exploding, I would think that man is not well before I would think this plane is actually going to explode. I think I agree with you. What I would probably do is

stay on the plane and be so fucking scared. That's the entirety of that. I would stay there and be like a wreck for however many. To be honest, that's probably what I would do as well. But I would like to think that I would just get off the plane because of that, because it's like I know that I'm not going to have a good time on this flight now right but well because i'm so like passive i feel like i would be like i don't want to cause a fuss i'll just die i guess if it was like low if it was like low stakes like you just had to get off a bus or something that's one thing but getting off a plane like that's a fucking you've ruined your whole day i mean you have to pay for a new flight like

it creates a lot of a lot of consequences to getting off the plane so you should just die it's better to just die roll the dice a lot of consequences but then also but then also if what's going to happen in this movie then happens to you maybe you'd rather die just in that moment anyway it's pretty bad scene i don't think you'd want to die that way me personally i'd take any of the other deaths really you wouldn't what i'd rather die in any of the other deaths then oh because they like melt to the bone i don't like that i don't like that but that wouldn't it be really fast though it feels like a plane death would be fast it looked long and you have like 10 to 15 seconds maybe longer one minute of fear well fear for sure like bodies like hitting chairs then like breaking it was like really graphic for 2000 would be really scary yeah yeah anyone who has a fear of

flying should not watch this movie or listen to this podcast. And we're telling you that now. Sorry. I will argue though at the end of the movie that this movie developed my fear of flying and then I figured out how to deal with it because it became so bad that I like made a decision because of this movie. So now I fly really well. So there's hope for us and i'll

share that with you if you need to know what i do okay yeah reach out to jenna don't judge me please just be cool about it everybody just be fucking cool just be fucking cool though okay so alex is freaking out the flight attendants and whatnot are coming to try to calm him down. And Carter, the jock guy, jumps up and he's all annoyed, like, you're trying to ruin our trip. And I think he punches him in the face. And so a fight breaks out. And so they're like, OK, we need to escort you off this flight. And this is when Billy starts boarding because he came late. But because he's in the aisle, they just kind of are pushing people out. And so they're pushing out Alex, Carter, and Carter's girlfriend joins because her personality is girlfriend. She's like apologetic for my asshole boyfriend, girlfriend. Yeah.

Yeah. That's her one. And so she gets ushered out as well and todd and his brother george are still sitting on the plane and george turns to todd and says you should go check on him and so todd gets gets up to follow them and as they're all kind of moving out we see clear looking at this whole situation and she looks nervous and she just of her own volition

unbuckles her seatbelt gets up and gets out she decides I'm also going to get off the plane and both of the teachers get taken out as well because they're trying to you know facilitate the situation and figure things out what a fucking nightmare as a teacher god like I had to take all these fucking high schoolers to paris and then they can't even get

on the goddamn plane i know it's very stressful um so they get they they're all back in the boarding area and basically that whatever tsa flight attendant people are like you guys aren't allowed back on and the two teachers say one of us has to be there that's like a high school class with no adult supervision we cannot let them go to paris alone and so they say okay we'll let one of you back on and uh mrs luton tells the french teacher that he could he can get on because he's the one that speaks French and you should go. You're excited for this trip. You go. And so Mrs. Luton stays behind.

French teacher gets on. Oh boy. And they're all sitting in the in the like boarding area seats and Carter's furious. He's so pissed and he's just this mr honey this is mr honey and he's just like screaming and pissed and um oh wait wait there's one thing that i wanted to say while

they're all like freaking out on the plane has the big glass window where you can watch the plane take off sean william scott's name is billy and he's looking out the window and he's like there they go like off on our trip and carter's still bitching like and we're not on it because alex says the plane's gonna crash the plane's gonna explode and of course the plane explodes and the force of it

shatters the windows of the airport they all kind of duck for cover and then come back up completely freaked out and all kind of turn to Alex like what the fuck just happened alex looks also you know pretty scared but just a wild moment of he was right and they have a spouse and a brother that died they saw them die. Mm-hmm. It's really sad. Yeah.

It's very sad and two detectives come. Detective Shrek and Detective Wine. Detective Shrek? Yeah. Shrek. He's played by Mike Myers. So cute. No, he's actually played by Roger Guinevere Smith

who was in Tales from the Crypt and Eve's Bayou. But they're, you know, sitting everyone down because they said the plane was going to explode, and they got off the plane, and it did explode, and that's pretty suspicious, and they don't

know the cause of the explosion yet, and so they're obviously being interviewed to see why they got off why they're going through asking them one by one you know what what made you get off the plane alex says i had this feeling clear's like i just believed him so and so they go through all of them and um then they're they're done they just kind of interviewed them. They're like, okay, well, we'll have to wait and see when we do an investigation what happened. And then they're all released. They go home. And the next day or a few days later, I guess, probably, is the funeral for all their fellow students who have died in this plane crash. crash um something like 280 people died on the plane crash i think it was like 20 other students it's very sad the the at the funeral they unveil a little memorial statue that they built with all their names inscribed in it and todd is gives a speech because his brother george died on the plane crash and we see that his dad is

seemingly very angry with alex for not also having gotten george off of the plane or resentful anyways okay it feels like some grief masking has anger because he needs a place to put it that's right yeah that's right there we go and at this funeral carter is still like alex you think i fucking owe you anything you think i fucking owe you like i'm in charge he's such an asshole he's like i'm in charge of my life nobody says when i die i'm gonna going to live forever. He literally says I'm going to live forever. It's very funny. And they're all kind of tiptoeing around Alex, not knowing whether to be scared of him. Like, is he a witch?

Is he a witch? Something like they don't know whether to be scared of him or whether to like go to him for advice for the rest of their lives.y kind of comes up to him those are the only two options you're either scared of him or he's your guru from here on out and billy comes up to him and says that he's he just passed his driver's test and the guy that was doing the test with him he said he turned to him and said young man you're going to die very young and he says do you think that he meant this and

Alex is trying to reassure him and says no no no not now you're not going to die now you're not going to die ever again there's like a few times in this movie where they're just like we'll never die we'll'll never die. We'll literally never die. Which is kind of what

you feel like when you're a teenager. You feel like you'll never die. I feel like you feel less that way after you watch all your classmates die. That's true. That's true. That's a pretty rude wake-up call. Yeah, that tends to remind you of your mortality a little what's up with that fucking like driver's ed teacher too yeah don't say that interesting

thing to say to a high school student for sure um and then we see everyone goes home after the funeral and we see Todd getting ready for bed. It's in the bathroom. And we see that the toilet is leaking a little bit of water dripping onto the tile. And we see it kind of pooling outwards towards his feet where he is standing facing the mirror shaving with a straight razor no okay and meanwhile we see alex back at home he's got his like research all fanned out over his desk his newspaper articles printed out his It's like a research montage-esque, except like what is there really to research? It just is a plane crash that happened,

but he's got it all, everything fanned out. He's looking like he's trying to get some answers. And then to distract himself from that, he pulls out a Playboy magazine and starts like trying to jerk off and like getting annoyed that he can't stop thinking about this plane crash and he can't get into the

into the right headspace to masturbate. Come on! Come on! And then back at Todd's house we see that liquid inching closer to his feet and he plugs in his radio next to him while he's shaving to

and guess what's playing on that radio John Denver John John Denver that's right and the the little little stream of water gets closer to him and then he kind of I guess finishes shaving and starts walking away towards the bathtub to, I guess, maybe put his razor down or whatever. And we see Alex in his room and a loud crash happens. It's a big old jump scare. And it's an owl that flew into his like against his bedroom window. And he throws the Playboy magazine at it to scare it away. And the magazine gets caught in his fan and it shreds it.

And it sprays all these little shredded pieces of magazine bit. And one lands on his knee. And it is just a cut out perfectly. The letters T.O.D. Todd. Oh, no. And so he gets a bad feeling. Todd spells his name with just one D?

Yes, and actually I noticed in the trivia that they did that intentionally because Todd in German means death. Wow. The layers in this film. The layers. death. Wow. The layers in this film. The layers. Incredible. It's so nuanced. Ogres have layers. This is Shrek.

You guys are making fun of it, but I think that's really cool. Yeah, what is up with Alex? Is he a witch? I think that he's a witch witch or death is really bored and was like i'm gonna fuck with this kid that too uh so after alex sees this todd piece of playboy on his leg he heads over to todd's house starts running over there and back at Todd's house, starts running over there. And back at Todd's house, we see him as he's like reaching into his shower. The puddle finally gets to his foot and he slips in it and falls face first on top of the like wire shower curtain holder thing. Oh, what? Shower curtain Holder thing Oh what

And it snaps off the wall and whips around his neck A bunch of times like wraps Like five times around his neck Really tight and it's like a pretty thin Wire Ew ew ew And he falls into the bathtub and knocks over Shampoo or something that like

Spills all over the bottom of the bathtub. So it's super slippery. So he's trying to stand up and he can't stand. And he's pulling at the wire trying to grab it. And we see his eyes fill with blood. Like blood vessels in his eyes burst. It's bad. That's disgusting. I don't like that.

And we see him reach for some scissors that are nearby to try to be able to cut the... What a weird bathroom! I know! You gotta have your bathroom scissors.

I've got my straight edge razor, my scissors, my thin wire shower curtain rod. My radio, my electric radio. My plug-in radio. But he can't reach. He can't get a grip with his feet. And he's just flopping around on the bottom of the tub and getting strangled. And eventually does get completely strangled and he dies and we see him go limp as alex is arriving he sees uh the ambulance is already there

and alex walks up uh scared says what happened and Todd's dad comes out furious and says don't you see he was so guilty about he felt so guilty about what happened that he killed himself oh also after Todd dies we see the liquid like retreat

back into the wall that's true and the liquid like the way the puddle comes out, it's not like the puddle just like got in his way. You can see it like follows where he goes. This is an intentional puddle. It's intentional. It's creepy actually. Yeah, it is creepy. I like though

of all the things, of all if you're manipulating puddles, if you have the power to manipulate puddles to kill someone, you probably could just kill them. He have slid his throat with the razor he could have put the shout the radio in the shower and electrocuted but no we're gonna be a little creative with that we're gonna be a little artsy we're gonna make him slip on a puddle and then let him do the work yeah yeah there's something about this too that feels like it's like slapstick comedy in a way. If it wasn't.

No, it's it's obviously not. I'm upset. Jenna's Jenna is so upset. Imagine that you're what? How old was I in 2000? You're like seeing this for the first time, realizing like, OK, if you don't take that step in that one spot, like maybe you could escape death and then the puddle follows you. And then maybe it's like serious. It feels really serious. I think you guys would be scared but yes and and i think i would

totally be no no i'm not saying i wouldn't be scared and i'm already like feeling stressed about my bathroom i'm like i need to check my bathroom for potential danger in there right immediately after this but it's more like it's feel doesn't it feel kind of like slapsticky though like there's something like out just outrageous yeah and i think you know what i think that it especially in the later movies it does try to have more and more yeah like outrageous deaths that you would just never think of and it kind of reminds me of a tv show that i used to love called a thousand ways to die oh yeah uh which this was such a weird show and i don't even know how to explain it because i don't think that it was real describe your favorite one i think one is real the people that went on a date and the guy

like yeah there was it was it was like presented like fact it was presented as a documentary series but it was so weird and it was like narrated by this guy. And the transitions between scenes would just be a woman's torso. Like with big boobs. Like going. It was the vibe of the show was very weird. But yes, there was one that was a couple on their first date. The guy cooked snails for his date.

And found the snails in his yard. And they had a toxin in them and they both died from whatever the toxin does to your brain and it's just these very obscure ways to die and that's what kind of Final Destination is as well. Wait, but were those real

stories? I think some of them were, I think some were real and some were you could die this way. It's just possible. Yeah. Legend things. Yeah. All right.

Well, we've got, we've got one, we've got one death down. Um, and so then the next day, Alex goes to clear his house. She's doing her welding. Um, clear. Fucking cool. Seems to have no family and live alone in like a huge house, which she kind of explains ish, but I didn't fully catch it. But so she's like welding art.

Alex comes over and they're kind of teaming up and trying to figure out what's going on. They're kind of teaming up and trying to figure out what's going on. This is suspicious now that he basically is like, Todd wouldn't have killed himself. We were like making plans for the future. I don't think that he did this. I think something's going on. And so they decide to break into the morgue to see Todd's body. Todd's body. They get there and we meet

Tony Todd, Candyman. In this film, his name is Bloodworth. He is the mortician guy and he is very ominous and spooky and they're basically like, yeah, our friend died

and we thought we were going to die on this plane and he says, in death, there are no accidents. There are no coincidences, no mistakes, no mishaps. Hey, this guy is not speaking at my funeral. And they're looking pretty freaked out by him. And he basically says, And they're looking pretty freaked out by him. And he basically says, everything's all part of death's sadistic design. And you cheated death by walking off the plane. And now death has a new design for all of you.

Wow. He was on top of it. He just fucking knew. Seems to know. He seems to know. They look pretty freaked out. And they turn to leave. And Bloodworth says says see you soon that is a freak

then alex and clear go get coffee they're kind of again trying to put the pieces together what if alex says what if we what if we weren't meant to live? What if we were supposed to die on that plane? And now death is coming for us. And he then sees the reflection of a bus driving by in the window of the cafe and turns and there's no bus there. And so he's kind of, again, looking thousand mile stare in the distance what's going on he's getting that feeling again and we see carter and terry driving up in carter's like muscle car he looks like he's blaring his nine inch nails he's looking like he feels really fucking cool and we see billy sean william scott on his bike like oh yeah driving riding by and Carter just swerves into Billy to like fuck

with him but in a way that like absolutely 100 could have killed him he knocks Billy off his bike Billy flies into the other lane of traffic and a car has to like swerve to avoid hitting him and Carter's like yeah fuck that guy and like and then pulls up to the cafe because he sees uh alex and clear and him and terry get out of the car and he comes to yell at alex some more and we see mrs luton walk out of the cafe and now all of the survivors of the plane crash are here in this specific spot and uh it's it's tense we we find out that mrs luton is is leaving the town like she's so uh traumatized by this incident that she's moving she doesn't want any reminders of this place and again carter is just like i'm in control of my destiny you don't control me you

have no uh i don't owe you shit and terry kind of loses it and is like you know what you need to like i can't deal with this anymore i'm not gonna have this plane crash to find the rest of my life which is like a pretty crazy thing to say like just a few days after like yeah it doesn't have to define the rest of your life but it's probably gonna be a top of define the week it's gonna be top of mind for a bit it definitely is the defining thing of whatever day we're in yeah um let's just forget about the plane crash and so she she is basically fed up with Carter. And like, if you're going to just every time we see Alex beat him up, then you can go ahead and drop dead. And she steps into the road and immediately gets hit by a bus.

Oh, plowed right down. Blood splatters on all of their faces. They're all in complete shock. Mrs. Luton screams. complete shock mrs luton screams and uh oh we see alex back at home watching the news and they have figured out what caused the crash and they're putting up these graphics on the news being like this there was an explosion on this side of the plane and it would have led to this or whatever. And they're showing very detailed like path of of where the explosion would have impacted or whatever. And Alex puts up a little piece of paper to trace on the TV and he kind of figures out the path, the order in which they would have died on the plane based on the explosion.

And that's fun. And so far, the order was Todd and Terry. And up next is Mrs. Luton. Oh, Mrs. Luton. Oh, no. And so he decides to kind of go to go check on her we go to her house and she is she's packing up all of her things and she puts on a record and says this was mom's favorite and it's john denver then she sees she's on the phone with a friend or something. And she sees Alex kind of skulking outside in the bushes.

And she's super freaked out because as far as she knows, this guy has just been around-ish when each person has died and predicted all this. So she's scared of him. And predicted all this. So she's scared of him. So she calls the detectives that are on the case. And they come and see him. He's like looking at her tire. He's like crouched down next to her car, touching her tires.

And they're like, excuse me, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm making sure her tires are inflated. Which he really is. But they don't buy it. And they take him in. They take him in for questioning. And Mrs. Luton lets off a big old fuf. That creepy guy is gone and she's going to live forever now. So she puts on a kettle.

Don't do that. And as it's like a breeze comes in, there's this thing that kind of happens each time one of the deaths happen where you see a little reflection kind of move by like a shadow or something. And this happens in the reflection of the metal teapot. You just see a figure kind of a shape move and a little breeze comes in and it blows out the flame of the stove.

But the gas keeps coming out. But she notices pretty quickly, but she doesn't turn it off. But she then lights a new match and starts reaching it towards and we're thinking this was going to explode. It doesn't. It just lights and it's fine.

And it starts heating up that tea and it eventually boils and she pours it into her teacup and as she's lifting up the teacup she screams and throws out the hot water because the cup is of the high school that they that they are at and she is so traumatized by this high school she doesn't even want to see this cup but rather than use a different cup she decides to then put ice cubes in the cup and pour some vodka in it she needs a stiff

drink but this quick transition from hot to cold makes a little crack in this mug she doesn't notice so she takes her mug of vodka and starts, she walks into her little office area to keep packing, sets the mug on top of her computer, which is just never a good place for a mug. And especially not one with a crack in it that's dripping liquid. Oh, it's also

like left a little trail of vodka that it's been dripping as she walked over here. She sets it on top of her computer, you know, a 2000s computer, a Y2K era computer and keeps packing. And then here's a little short circuiting thing and looks and we see the computer is now smoking. And she gets she goes up close to inspect it and as she gets up close the computer explodes and the glass front of the computer shatters and impales her in the throat a big shard of computer glass goes into her throat she stumbles backwards pulls it right out which i think is not what you're supposed to do no and it's squirting blood and she's pressing onto it putting pressure on it kind of stumbling around her apartment now and then the the spark from the from the computer now catches fire and lights up that whole line of

vodka that had been dripping all the way back to the stove lights the whole basically house on fire there's like a whole path in the house is half on fire um she's trying to to walk back to the stove she's i think probably slips in the vodka and um we see alex this is intercutting between alex at the detective station they're basically saying like you know this looks pretty suspicious you've now been at you know people are dying that you saved you've been at the scene of each of these crimes and but they don't have anything to hold hold him on they have no proof of anything so they they have to let him go. And he is sticking true to his story of, you know, I don't know what to tell you. I had a premonition. And I think that we're going

to die in this order. Death's coming for us all. The detectives look a little freaked out, like maybe they kind of believe him. One of them says, just promise us nobody else will die. And he says, I can't promise you that. I can't promise you that. Like, death is coming for us. But they can't hold him. They let him go. He gets to Mrs. Luton's house right as it's now on fire. And he breaks in and sees her with the piece of glass or with her neck bleeding and runs up to her. And runs up to her. And, oh, no, no, no.

First, she is trying to grab a towel to use on her wound on her neck. And she's reaching up onto the kitchen counter. And we see that the towel is rested on top of a butcher block filled with knives. Oh, my God. And she eventually reaches it, pulls it down, and, and like six knives go into her body one one huge one into her chest like the biggest one into her chest and then a couple in her legs and she's still alive she's holding her throat she's freaking out she can't she can't get up and this is when alex comes in and he says like, Mrs. Luton, like, don't move, don't move. I'm going to help you.

And then at that moment, the flames like cause this shelf to break and the shelf collapses and something falls off that shelf and knocks a chair over that lands on top of her, pushing the knife further in. Alex panics, grabs the knife, pulls it out. No, she's obviously she's dead now. And now he's just sitting over her dead body with the weapon in his hand. Very guilty. And he's wide eyed, jumps up, runs out of the house.

We see Billy on his bike riding by. Hey, Alex. We see Billy on his bike riding by. Hey, Alex. And Alex runs from the house. The house explodes. And they're both knocked over by the force of the explosion. Billy's like, what's going on? And Alex just bolts. He just runs into the woods, doesn't talk to Billy, just gets the fuck out of there. Then we see Clear and Carter and Billy somehow kind of congregate at that little memorial that was put up for the other students and carter is carving in terry's name into it like she deserves to be here now and clear tells them like we need to find alex alex knows what's going on alex knows the order who like which of us is next i guess he told her that maybe and she's basically like we need to find him so they get into carter's car and uh they find him on a beach and clear and alex have this i guess it's supposed to be kind of a it's an intimate conversation just the two of them and she

basically reveals how her dad died when she was younger and um how lonely she has been and they just have this kind of heart heart to heart where she's like we can't give up now and it's a little bit um they've got they've got a flirtation thing going and she kind of is like don't because he's losing it a bit he's getting more and more freaked out as everything is uh progressing and she's like i need you stay with me here like we can't give up now let's figure this out so they get a second wind and all four of them get into carter's car and um clear says that they can go to her dad's cabin in the woods oh because they want to hide they want to hide uh alex because he's now hiding from the detectives because he thinks that he will be under suspicion of murdering Mrs. Luton. Fair.

And Carter, again, just starts being a huge asshole and starts driving like a maniac. He is running red lights. He is flooring it in this car. Super, super reckless driving on the way there. They're all screaming like Carter, stop. What are you doing?

He's like, I'm in control of my destiny. He like gets mad because he's like, tell us who's next. You got to tell us who's next. Oh yeah. He's like, that's not going to help the situation. And he kind of is a dick about it.

Yeah. Devin Sawa. Yeah. Alex won't tell him, won't tell them who's next. Cause he feels like that'll just make it worse and he's like the point is we're all on the same list we're all in this together and like we need to figure it out all together like who's next doesn't matter we all have skin in this game basically and then carter's like i will show you who dies next and it's going to be all of us right now. Right. He just wants to be in control again.

And he's going to live forever. He's going to live forever. And so they're flying down the streets. It's very stressful. They're all screaming. And Alex looks down and sees his belt buckle torn open like the the fabric ripped and looks at it and then does a double take and it's back to normal

and then he sees in the in the window in the car window a reflection of a train and he again is kind of looking around he's getting this feeling again he's getting his little mini premonition well and he does know who's next he does know who's next. He does know who's next, yes.

And Clear yells, stop this car right now! And Carter slams on the brakes right on some train tracks. No! And the train is coming. Yes, it is.

It's coming. The little things drop down and he turns off the car he's like okay you said stop they're all freaking out carter unlock the doors let us out like this is crazy don't do this um they eventually are able to get out of the car clear billy and alex get out of the car carter won't and is kind of looking at him like fuck you guys i'm in control here trying to be cool in his car i feel good i'm at my best mental state i'm in control of the circumstances everything's happening to me right now is what i want to be happening and i feel really normal about it and uh they're screaming at him get out get out and he's he like looks at him he's like all right you're right it's

not my time yet and goes to turn the car back on and it won't start and now the train's getting closer and he's trying to get the car to start. It's not starting. It's not starting. They're like, just fucking get out of the car. Get out of the car. He reaches for the handle. Handle breaks off. Door won't open. And he goes to unbuckle his seatbelt.

It won't unbuckle. He is stuck in it. And now he's really freaking out. It's like hyperventilating. And Alex eventually comes to help him. Is also trying to get the buckle up. It won't happen. It won't unbuckle.

And the train is right there now. And Alex does one last pull and it breaks through the seatbelt and he is able to pull Carter out of the window of the car just in time. And the train hits the car, smashes it completely. The four of them kind of fall back into the onto the dirt, like next to the train hits the car, smashes it completely. The four of them kind of fall back onto the dirt next to the train tracks. And what's his name? Sorry. Alex. Alex.

Or no, yeah, yeah. Billy is screaming now saying, you were next. You were next. And like, I got to stay away away from you carter because you're clearly next and we see this little shard of metal kind of getting uh vibrating on the train tracks the train's like still going over it while he's shouting over the train yeah the train is still the car like moving around under the train tracks uh-huh and as Billy is yelling at

Carter this little piece of scrap metal that broke from the accident gets caught in the in the train wheels and ricochets and slices Billy's head off at the jaw so his bottom of the bottom of his

the bottom of his jaw remains on his body. The top of his head flies right off. And he's dead. Yeah, pretty sure that'll do it. That'll do it. Yeah, I think he's dead. And at this moment, Alex looks confused. He says, no, Carter was next.

Carter was next. Like, this isn't Billy wasn't supposed to be next. It was Carter that was supposed to be next. And Alex puts together that if he intervenes, it can skip someone and it moves to the next person because billy was next after carter and carter's like even more pissed he's like oh what so you're like god now like you're just in control of everything like you saved someone you saved his fucking life god this guy should have let carter die you fuck this guy yeah carter never chills out he's angry the whole time and

this is the moment at which Alex and Claire start calling each other baby and it doesn't really I think the beach scene that they had their little intimate talk was cut down and that there was a more romantic thing where they kissed there at one point but we didn't see that and so

they just start calling each other baby now also like even if you've just and so they just start calling each other baby now and it's also like even if you've just had one kiss to start calling each other baby it's such an extreme move it's so wild they like confuse me when we're watching it because i was like does she just call him billy like yeah we were really confused and then she kept saying baby and we were like okay they're there okay they're there and they're there it's very weird they're there and we love that and we support it um but yeah she's like trying to calm down alex like baby baby it's okay it's okay and it's just very jarring like wait a second what's going on

um but so they decided they're gonna go to to the her her the cabin in the woods still. And we find out that Alex is indeed next on the list. And so we're going to put him in this cabin and they start like baby proofing everything in the cabin. They're like taping duct tape and like foam on corners of tables. They're putting corks on any nails in the walls they're just basically child proofing the whole place but there's a lot of there's a lot of still dangerous shit in there it's like filled with uh hunting gear and fish hooks and oh no it's not good and alex is really, they leave him there.

So he's there by himself. And he's kind of psyching himself up for this showdown with death. And he's just kind of yelling into space like, I'm going to beat you. Maybe not forever, but today, like, you're not killing me today. And trips on something and a door opens and a fish hook flies out and he like closes the door before it opens all the way because i think that's where the guns are and knives are in there too and like a knife like burst through the wall right on his like to his face it doesn't get him but It's just him really losing it in this little cabin. And then something happens.

I think he's just sitting there thinking and he realizes that he would have switched places with those girls to be next to Todd. And this changes. He was basically calculating the death order from the place that he was in when he woke up. But if things had gone according to plan, he would have moved to a different seat, which changes the death order and makes clear next and him last and so okay he's got to go yeah so he he i think he does a little test and like lights a lighter

near him what a wild explosion trajectory that it would have gotten Todd first and him last, but they were next to each other. I'm not saying it's now possible, but I don't know how. It is very unexpected. It's not what I would think an explosion would do. But so he, yeah, he heads out to go save, to go see what's going on with Clear, see if she's in danger. It's nighttime now. A thunderstorm is

happening we see her at her house and a lightning uh lightning bolt knocks over a telephone pole and it breaks the telephone wire so there's basically a live wire like flinging around in her backyard flailing and and there's her german shepherd dog is in the backyard tied up and barking at this live wire like he's getting like he wants to fight it and she sees that from her bedroom window and wants to run down to be like no no no you can't fight the live wire and just to untie him and maybe to take him inside um so she starts uh running down to get the dog we see alex leaving the cabin and i guess the detectives were perched outside of the cabin cabin and so they see him and start chasing him and he just hops into a little rowboat

and starts paddling across the lake. Because I guess the cabin in the woods is just across the lake from where Clear lives normally. And it's funny. The cops are like, or the detectives are looking at him like, Well, I guess we have to drive all the way around. Even though he's 15 feet away from them in a rowboat. They're like, ah, he's in that boat though. We can't

get him so they start driving back to her house and he is rowing across the lake to her house and uh we see that she has an above ground pool that is starting to split at the seams as this live wire is is bouncing around in the yard and she eventually gets the dog untied the pool splits all the water comes rushing out the wire is now like in the air flailing around but the second it comes down we know all anyone touching that anyone touching that water is toast anyone touching that anyone touching that water is toast so she screams at the dog to run the dog runs away and she jumps onto a trellis on the side of her house and so she's hanging off the side of her house as the live wire hits the water. We see Alex now running kind of through the woods to her house and he trips and falls and tumbles down this hill and stops just short of this broken branch that could have easily impaled him in the face. It's a pretty cool shot.

He kind of stops like an inch away from this gnarly looking branch. Doesn't get impaled. Then keeps running towards Clear's house. And Clear then is still climbing up this trellis. And eventually gets into a window or something. In through the roof, somehow gets into her house and her house is now like, sparks

are flying, this is an electrical storm happening, things are maybe on fire now and she runs through down her stairs, gets to her garage and gets in the car to drive away and as she's doing that, she like knocks over a can of

turpentine and that's now pooling on the ground under the car um she gets the car started the live wire is now flinging around her car something knocks over something knocks a pole off of like a shelf in the garage and it I feel like if you're clear at this point you're like oh I'm next right like there's no definitely definitely oh no it's me for

sure and a pole impales the windshield like barely missing her. And she is screaming, trying to reverse. And then the live wire hits the car and short circuits it, basically, and stops the car. So the car just stops working. And as this is happening, there's another part where a tree falls on Alex and he gets like pinned face first into small like a pretty small puddle.

But he is just there's just a tree on top of him and he's face first like drowning in this small puddle and is eventually able to to push push himself free runs to alex who is screaming in this car and she's about to reach for the door handle and he gets there just in time to say no no no don't touch anything like he says you're grounded by the tires everything else is basically anything metal is an electric risk like don't touch the handle don't touch anything stay stay right where you are um and then another shelf falls over in the room in the garage knocking over like an oxygen tank like a scuba tank type thing which then sprays oxygen and the live i don't know the live wire hits something else maybe, and the turpentine catches fire, which basically has now poured a puddle underneath the car. So basically now there's just flames under the car.

And Alex and Clear are looking at each other and he says like, okay, the car is going to, the car is going to explode. and he says like okay the car is going to the car is going to explode uh i have to grab the live wire and you know what to do when i do that and i think it's funny to be ambiguous in this like to not have clear like clearing to say you know what to do in a in a very life-threatening situation she does welding in her spare time that's true she does i mean what to do yeah i mean and she does know what to do she does it but it's still just like i feel like at this moment i would be like just fucking tell me tell me what to do just in case just in case uh-huh baby baby tell me oh i think there are some babies thrown in this part yeah too. Yeah, there is. And she's like, no, no, no, you can't do it.

Baby, don't do it. Don't do it. And he says, I'm not going to. Like, if I intervene and it skips you, like, I'm not going to let this kill both of us. Like, I'm going to intervene. It's going to skip you. This is the best chance we've got. And he does it.

He goes and grabs the live wire, holds it, and she is then able to open her car door and get out just as it explodes. And the force of the explosion throws them both back. So he is electrocuted and thrown by an explosion. So he is electrocuted and thrown by an explosion. And she's thrown back just as the detectives are pulling up. And they're all then standing over Alex's body, not getting a pulse. And it fades to white. And then we get a little title card of six months later and they are. It is Carter, Alex and clear on an airplane just landed in Paris.

What? And they are like, well, we made it. We made it this time. She's like, there's no fucking way six months later I'm doing that same trip. There's also no fucking way I'm hanging out with Carter just because we all went through this together. Like, we're not friends. I don't want to see you, Carter. You suck. Yeah. Yeah. Carter sucks so hard. I 100% agree. None of this makes any sense.

Didn't he lighten up, though, a little bit in this last segment? In this little bit, it seems like maybe he, in these last six months, he says something here. So they go to a little Parisian cafe to have some wine and beer. Parisian cafe to have some wine and beer. You're sitting on a little outdoor patio. And Carter says something like, you know, nobody understands me like you guys do. They're just bonded through trauma. And Alex is still focused on this plane crash. And they're like, like alex get over it we don't want to

talk about this anymore and he basically i can't totally remember something has been nagging him and he whips out his little map of the seating chart of the plane and he's basically like, if it skipped Clear and should have been me, like, I didn't have, nobody intervened with me. Like, I made my choices myself. Like, why didn't it come for me again? And Carter says something like, well, maybe it still is. And Clear's all like, Carter, stop. still is and clears all and like carter stop and alex like works himself up and decides uh that he's gonna go back to the hotel and he's like you guys just you guys stay stay here you stay without me i'm i'm gonna go back to the hotel for now and as he's kind of walking away, Clear sees a bus reflection in the cafe window that is not actually there.

And you see her kind of get the bad feeling. And she turns and yells, Alex, and stops him in his tracks just before a bus drives by. And so he was inches away from getting hit by that bus. She stops it. She has intervened. But then the bus crashes into the building, knocking off this big billboard-y type thing, like these big letters that's attached to this thick wire that then starts swinging like a pendulum. And so it's like swinging down towards Alex and Carter

then dives and pushes Alex down. They both, it doesn't hit either of them. They're both safe. Carter stands back up and he's like there you go like i intervened like you're fine now not understanding how a pendulum works and he's standing up and is like oh also one other thing that happened at this little outdoor cafe there's a little paris man playing John Denver on guitar. That's what starts freaking Alex out in the first place. In French too. Yeah. It's like,

yeah. Singing a little John Denver in French. And, uh, and so Carter has saved Alex and then stands up and is like, see, like it's fucking fine. We're fine.

And then it swings back. Oh. And he, I think Alex says something says something like well it skipped me now now it skipped me and carter says well then who's next and then it's who do you think and it swings back the big old billboard thing and Max Carter and cut to black. End of the movie. Wow. Okay.

So Alex and Ali Larder are still alive. And they're in the future ones. I'm guessing. Ali Larder definitely is. I don't remember them well enough to know. I'm sure they make cameos. Ali Larder is for sure in number two as like a main character okay okay wow i want to know more about these premonitions this i'm curious

about i like forget they go in depth in the and there's like five more movies yeah there's five and they're really like going deep to some weird stuff about all of this, but I don't remember really. I mean, we'll have to cover the rest of them to get these answers. But yeah, basically I just think it's they cheat death and then death comes for them and kills them in

real crazy ways. I remember the tanning bed one. There's an acupuncture one where someone falls on their acupuncture needles. No. I hate that so much. They're so skinny though. I know.

It doesn't kill them. There's LASIK eye surgery. Let's just throw them all out there. Ooh, the LASIK eye surgery one. That's why I won't get it. There's a pool. Wait, pool butt on the hole? Oh, yeah.

Someone's butt gets stuck on like this drain suction at the book i've heard about that i've heard about that and it like sucks out their intestines out of their butt they get more like hokey as you go along and they're funny and you kind of laugh but they are still scary the highway one right isn't there yes that's number two and that one really stayed with me for a long time because that's the that's the opening disaster that they have a premonition and then evade. It's someone it's people driving on a freeway behind a logging truck. Where the logs come loose and basically impale all these various cars around them, causing like this huge 20 car pile up and these people just dying in these horrible car accidents which that one feels

very plausible real and that's a plane crash I wonder if the original like well and so does a roller coaster maybe they try to keep the initial thing kind of the most realistic and then the subsequent

deaths are... And then death's like, watch me get creative because you... Watch me get creative. Yeah. Right. Fine. You're going to make me work for it. Wow.

But there, I mean, I think they're pretty fun movies and I think it's a very unique premise. I honestly, I think it's good. I really liked it. Yeah. I mean, I was very entertained hearing about it. So. All right I mean, I was very entertained hearing about it. So. All right.

Jenna, what, can we read a little line of this essay or what? Do you have a, do you have a specific. Yeah, let's get a line. Do you want me to read it? Do you want to read it? Tell me which part. So I had a writing project when it was the year 2000 that we were talking about earlier. So keep in mind, this was a weird time. about earlier so keep in mind this was a weird time so i chose to wrote i wrote about memories for me of the of the past year of the end of the century and um one of the big standouts was final

destination for me so i just wrote an essay about it kind of like a review and kind of like what it made me feel. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, should I read this? Okay, so here's what I said. I'll open it up for you. With plane crashes, deaths, and unanswered questions about the path of death, this movie has everything a great action-packed horror movie needs. This movie is perfect for someone who likes movies that could actually happen yet are on the verge of being unbelievable

i did henley go into how it's a little bit too um gory so you're right i thought it was a bit much that's too much that's pretty much it it was a little bit too i said on a scale from one to ten i would give it a nine. So I've always liked it. Oh, my God. If you haven't seen it, you should. If you have, a second time wouldn't hurt. Oh, my God. You loved it.

You loved it. Oh, you heard it. You heard it here first. Amazing. You heard it here. See it once, see it twice. See it once, see it twice. Can't hurt.

It can't hurt. Another viewing wouldn't hurt. Oh, my God.enna thank you so much for sharing that with us that was yeah i mean i feel really passionate about it i have chills even 21 years later i still do it's really it's pretty good i i mean again i'll say i think the the bad reviews and the low round tomato score is unfair well it's like a dumb movie where i mean it's like a dumb scary movie you have to go in thinking that but you can it's not life changing nothing's gonna see i don't know i feel like it was it was if you're at the right moment because it's like if you are a child maybe you shouldn't watch this movie but it's like the first time you realize like remember when you first thought about like predestination like that was an idea of like oh i don't have a choice in my life i just like die

one day and like i don't know what it is remember that website where you could look up what time you were gonna die oh yeah i feel like that was all happening then i was like it's like these ideas were going so this just hit you at the right the right place right time, as you were starting to contemplate your mortality in general. My mortality, like how one action leads to another. This is like probably around the time of the butterfly effect. Yeah. And then I was watching, I was always a big fan of the X-Files, and this kind of does feel like a long X-Files episode. Same director as some of the X-Files.

But it's just like fun, and they get more fun and it's interesting well we're gonna have to do a future final destination i think there's a new one coming so we should actually do that i think in the next year even though they said that the last one was the last one um are there any fun voices no should we could do French accent? We've done that too many. Always do a French accent. I think this is a default to a French. No, let's just do our regular voices. But do you want to do French? No, but I feel like there's got to be something.

Sean William Scott, can you do like Dude, where's my car voice? Should we do a John Denver? I don't know what a John Denver voice is. I don't know what that would be. Yeah, maybe we should just... We could do a... Let's just do regular voice.

Let's just do regular voice. Okay. Regular voice, but like... A 2000... Care. Yeah. Y2K voice. Y2K voice.

Do what you think your voice was like in the year 2000. It sounded the same as it does now that's fine that's fair mine was probably a little bit higher from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch goodbye goodbye goodbye

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