Too Scary; Didn't Watch - FRESH

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

Butts, basements and a whole new reason to hate dating, we're recapping FRESH! Daisy Edgar-Jones and Sebastian Stan might be our leads, but the real star is the power of female friendship. TR...AILER You can watch FRESH on Hulu Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them and I tell you all about them in detail giving you those freaking gory deets. You love them. We love them. I love to tell you them but before i tell you about this this week's gory deets gory deets gory deets did anything scary happen to us this week i guess like what's scary sometimes is just the how talented slash blessed some people are.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yes. I so that You're talking about yourself, right? And I'm talking about me. And I guess it's scary. I guess it's scary. I blow myself
Starting point is 00:01:23 away. No, I'm talking about Channing Tatum. Oh my god, thank you No I'm talking about Channing Tatum Oh my god thank you I'm talking about Channing Tatum I'm Yeah right now I'm talking about Channing Tatum He's so talented And so unique And so
Starting point is 00:01:40 You know I love Magic Mike We watched the Lost City Same But we watched The Lost City. Same way I watched The Lost City last night. So fun. Guys, go see it. It's just freaking fun. We're just having a fun time. Marcy Jaro, who is a guest for one of our episodes, has a moment in it.
Starting point is 00:02:00 She's very funny. Everyone in it is very funny and great. And Tinny tatum is just like such a movie star he's just such a movie star and it's you know it's interesting he is clearly a very handsome man like he his whole deal in like all his movies is like whoa like this hunky guy i it doesn't do his vibe is not for me like that it's very it's like a very jock vibe I feel it's a very jock vibe and it's a very like but he's also not afraid to be a big dork which is I love I love that I love that mainly it's like the way he chooses to like dress in real life like his big stupid hats I just think looks so like he has like I haven't seen the big hats big pants big
Starting point is 00:02:41 hats big pants and I'm just like not it's not for me but um but in movies i find him so compelling in the one scene in the last city they were like dancing and oh my god simmy were you being made to feel so many things while they were dancing because i was not to harp on this again but the movie step up i know it's wall-to-wall channing tatum dancing i know i know i you know i love magic mike which is also wall-to-wall channing tatum dancing but it was just like oh god i just i just really love him and i just think he's so talented and it's fun to watch somebody really talented just like light up the screen and then then when they're leaving the movie you reminded me sammy that he freaking dates zoe kravitz and i was just like oh my god oh my god two fucking
Starting point is 00:03:35 sexy talented people finding love finding love having a great time like just like wow i forgot i forgot there are they wait i'm they are together my jaw is on the ground most importantly sexually they're together sexually jason momoa posted a photo with channing tatum at the premiere of the batman like they're friends they're they're they like are friends with each other they know each other's families it's that serious oh my god my i mean i mean oh i mean i'm speechless i know i'm speechless it's remarkable and i'm just thinking i'm just for them thrilled for them i'm thrilled for us that we live in this world of theirs. It's their world. We're just living in it.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And I am thrilled. I'm thrilled. And I can't stop thinking about it. Yeah. And another thing I'm thrilled about. Minx on HBO. Oh, yeah. So delightful.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Loving it. So delightful delightful love the 70s love the porn feeling that is happening there love oscar montoya what a star but really what i really want to talk about about it is how many penises they show so many penises so many penises. So many penises. And in the same way that we are bombarded with breasts in everything, female full frontal is like, it's nothing. It just...
Starting point is 00:05:15 Standard. Standard. Set dressing. It's just like, we just are seeing tits left and right, everything you watch. And it's just like,
Starting point is 00:05:22 yeah, whatever, whatever. They do that same thing, but with penises. And it is astounding. It's astounding. It is such a choice. There's one scene where it's a bunch of men in a shower, and they all turn and fully face front to camera. But it's just not a thing.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's just like, well, they're naked, and so they're turning around, and we're seeing their bodies, but it's just like not a thing. It's just like, well, they're naked. And so they're turning around and we're seeing their bodies. And but it also is so clearly a thing. They're there. It's so intentional. They show up being like, look at these penises, look at these penises, look at these penises. Because you just never do. And I just fucking love that they do that.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I just love it. And I informed Emily that a similar thing happens in Euphoria. That's true. But I think the tone is very different. I think you're right. Well, I listened to an interview with Jake Johnson.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Whenever I say that, I'm like, that can't be right. That can't be a real name. I always feel that way, too. I love him so much. John Jackson, John Jackson, Jake Johnson. Johnson is the most charming person in the world. He's so charming. Oh, my God. What an absolute
Starting point is 00:06:36 star. Yeah, his interviews are also so fun because he's equally charming in interviews and, you know, sometimes you listen to interviews and like you just feel a little uncomfortable because you just don't really know what to expect. He comes in guns a blazing, like so comfortable, so funny. He puts you at ease right away. Right away.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I believe it. I believe it. and attracted to this character is because the man in Minx who he's playing basically sees a corner of the market that or sees a part of the market that hasn't been cornered yet. Like the idea that you could be profit off of penises, basically, and that women will want to see them. And he loved the idea of turning the idea on its head of like, you know, usually it's women who are the objects well like let's see what it's like for men to be the objects for once and it's just crazy how or it's 2022 and this is like a new idea you know what i mean like why aren't we seeing more penises like i want to
Starting point is 00:07:36 see it yes i love that it like yes obviously the part of the storyline is objectifying the male body it's like they keep calling it the female gaze, right? So it's like, you know, porn for women. But I also love how often it's just like just a penis as a part of a body. Totally. Just like a naked man. Just also
Starting point is 00:07:58 being like, because we are just like assaulted by naked women all the time. And don't get me wrong. I like to look at a naked woman as well. Just like any warm-blooded human being. But just being like, it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's just a penis.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Here's a naked man. And we're not going to like... Because TV shows always like when there is a naked man, you don't ever see the penis. It's like he stands in front of a thing or his leg is in the way. It's a sacred thing that cannot be seen. Are you fucking kidding me? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Let's see him. And let's see him. And we see just so many. So many. And I fucking love it. So. Great. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Hell yeah. Guys, watch Minx on HBObo go watch minx on hbo and what did anything scary happen to you guys this week i had like similarly what you were talking about uh someone being so talented was i saw everything everywhere all at once oh yeah and the daniels that the directing team that directed that i just think they're like so unbelievably talented that it like makes me feel bad just not i don't think the intended no i absolutely know what you mean but it just is like oh oh, man, like I can never do that. That's a high bar. I don't want to be a director.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Let me also throw that in. But it's just like I'm a creative individual. And so it's like seeing someone creating things that are just like I think perfect pieces of media is just it's it's really, really wonderful and cool to see. And then also makes me feel inadequate sometimes yeah because there's like a difference between being good at something and being like a literal genius and so yeah when you see
Starting point is 00:09:55 someone who's a literal genius it really makes you see the gap between what you have and are capable of and what is capable, like what is possible and just being like, oh, I'm not. Oh, I'm not. Which in a way, what a relief, right?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Can you imagine being that gifted? Like, for example, like how Channing Tatum must feel. Setting that bar for yourself. Channing Tatum and the Daniels. That's a lot to hang on to you know like we thought like we were talking about this with Inside with Bo Burnham just being like oh my god how can a person like
Starting point is 00:10:32 what to create that to be capable of that it would just be so much it just was so much inside your brain and so and then like so it's a lot it's a lot genius is a burden thank god i am not one you're stupid i love my little brain there is something that's kind of a relief about accepting that
Starting point is 00:10:55 though right i feel like oh god yeah like oh we don't have to i don't need to be ambitious in that way no thank you no thank you yeah it's a scary feeling when you like see it and you get that little moment of being like do i need to make a movie this good even though that's not even my career like i'll have a like moment of being like oh fuck fuck fuck fuck yep yep is it just in theaters right now or can you stream it it's just in theaters but it's it's a limited release so it doesn't even go wide in theaters until April 8th that opens wide. I'm very excited. Sam is going to see it again this week, and I'm going to see it
Starting point is 00:11:31 for the first time. I'm very excited. I also just wanted to say that Henley told us about a podcast called Dead Eyes, which I have been listening to, and I'm obsessed with it. I love it very much and it's just so funny it's a man named connor ratliff who is a comedian who is setting out to solve
Starting point is 00:11:54 the mystery of why tom hanks fired him from the 2001 hbo miniseries band of brothers for saying he had dead eyes. And it's so funny. And he just on the most one of the most recent episodes interviewed Tom Hanks. And I tried to jump in at that episode because I was too excited and was like, I got to hear this because I knew the premise. And like in the beginning of that episode, it's like, we know you're a first some of your first time listeners like go back and listen to the whole thing. And so I did. And I'm very happy that I am. But I just can't wait to get to that episode.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But I'm also scared for him. His heart must have been beating out of his chest. I mean, there was so build up. It's like us getting freaking Tony. I mean, it would be just like it. It would be just like it. It would be the exact same. Yeah, Tim and I listened to a bunch of these episodes on a road
Starting point is 00:12:52 trip to Charleston that we took, Charleston, South Carolina. And it was like the perfect thing to binge listen to. Yeah. So many right in a row. And it is also part of what's interesting about it too is that he starts it before covid and then covid happens and he moves home and he talks he talks a little bit
Starting point is 00:13:13 about like what am i doing why am i making this podcast and he doesn't hold back with his like self-derosities i mean he is gets fixated on i mean he created a whole podcast about one moment which to be fair pretty important moment but yeah i would imagine that he fixates on things a lot of people who a lot of the guests who come on are like we i feel like you're taking it too seriously and he's like i appreciate that but i don't. Let me have my process. I just find it delightful. Yeah, I really enjoy it too. You guys, I guess the scary thing for me this week is listening to you guys talk, all your movie talk.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You guys are having so much movie talk going to movies seeing movies in theaters and um i have not been to a movie theater since january of 2020 so that's crazy it's been over two years and i don't it's like not on the horizon for me either right yeah right you have to get a baby you have to get a freaking Yeah, I'd have to get a babysitter. Get a freaking sitter. I don't know A, like how to do that. I don't know how to do that. We have Tim's parents who can babysit and however
Starting point is 00:14:34 they, you know, they don't want to go to bed early and we still have to put Silas to bed ourselves because he is a little menace and won't go to sleep. We've had both of our sets of parents try to put him to bed and it's a disaster. So technically we could, but he just wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:14:50 easy. But yeah, just be stressed about it, too. Yeah. And it would just suck for you know, Tim's parents or my parents to be like having to deal with that. They would. I'm sure they'd be fine with it. But there hasn't been like a movie that we've been like, well, we have to have to do this.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It feels like a lot to take on to see a movie. Also, there isn't a movie theater close to our neighborhood. So we have to travel to this movie theater, you know, the whole thing. Yeah, that's an undertaking. However, there is an AMC theater right across the street from my office where now I am required to be in person for three days a week. So maybe I'm just going to go to the movies in the middle of a work day. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Maybe that's what I'll do. I think that sounds like a really great idea. I'm just going to block out some of my schedule and go see the Batman by myself. You're going to have to block out most of a day. That's half a work day. That is absolutely half a work day. Especially when you put in travel time. You're taking a half day. But
Starting point is 00:15:52 movies are too long now. Are there any short movies? You picked the longest one. That's the only one I want to see. But everything everywhere all at once is also, it's like two and a half. Movies are long. Movies are long now. but take a half day and go see the batman okay i'm gonna take a half day goes to the batman the only other thing i wanted to tell you guys is currently as we speak it is snowing outside
Starting point is 00:16:15 it's snowing outside i it's literal flurries like i'm looking at my window. Wow. Full snow. No, you guys are saying that like oh, that's so sweet. I'm here to tell you it fucking sucks. I'm done with it. I hate it. I'm over it. I never want it to happen again. I'm moving down south. Back here.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I mean, I wish. You know when was the last time it snowed here? Never. I don't know, but not a lot in the whole history of the city. Where is it? The tail end. I'm looking outside my window. Oh my gosh, Henley. The flowers are blooming.
Starting point is 00:16:54 The sky is blue. It's sun is shining. Warm. Stop it. A perfect 70, 76 or something. Get here. That sounds so nice. Or it's the tell, tell, tell end of winter here and it's painful.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah, that like you think you're done and then it snows again. That's tough. Mm-hmm. It sucks. It's actually 69 degrees. 59. We love penises. Okay. Should we talk about this movie we're coming in with a really interesting energy i'm excited i'm excited for what we're getting into i'm excited for this movie this movie is good and
Starting point is 00:17:37 this movie is also short i think it is a 90 minute movie so thank god yeah. So one movie, but it's not in theaters, so you'd have to watch it at home. And that movie is fresh, new release, just came out on Hulu. It is directed by Mimi Cave, written by Lauren Kahn, starring Daisy Edgar Jones, Sebastian Stan, and Jojo T. Gibbs. And yeah, it's on Hulu. And it's great. And I loved it. People are talking about it. People are talking about it. People Hulu and it's great and I loved it people are talking about it people are talking about it people have feelings
Starting point is 00:18:08 about it Sebastian Stan is having a moment yes a big moment for Sebastian Stan okay let's talk about Sebastian Stan because I have thoughts can I just tell you guys real quick I don't know whether I've told you this before I feel like I have maybe my first or second week
Starting point is 00:18:24 when I moved to Los Angeles so long ago, I was a background actor for one day in the pilot of that Showtime show that was about comics that I think only lasted
Starting point is 00:18:40 one season. Oh, oh, oh. Yes. Fuck. What was that show? Was Jim Carrey in it? Yeah, it was like oh oh oh yes um fuck what was that was jim carrey in it yeah it was jim carrey was an executive producer and it was set in like the 70s i want to say i'm still here or i'm still standing or something like that something like that fuck this i'm gonna actually have to look it up because it's gonna bother me so sebastian sand was in it and i was one of the background actors in a scene where he's supposed to like go up to a bar and talk to a girl. And I was sitting at the bar and the whole time I was it was like six hours of me just watching Sebastian Stan like move around this little tiny bar set while I sat there and was entranced.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And the whole time I was like, maybe we could date, you know, maybe he'll like catch, catch eyes with me. And we could just date for a little bit. You know, why not? I think that's like literally, basically why everybody does background is, is like, this, this might be like my big break, the director's gonna notice me or the lead actor's gonna notice me and this moment will change my life when in reality, they're just really long, bad days. Oh, it's terrible. No, if anyone actually knows me, you know, like the last thing I would ever want to do in a million years would be like noticed by literally anyone. And the only reason I did this is because I was broke as hell. And someone offered me the opportunity to be a background actor. And I was like, I'll do anything for money. So yes, please. And that's a whole I
Starting point is 00:20:01 feel like that's a whole thing. Like the world of background actors. I mean, I know they made a show called Extras that really dives into it. Oh, great show. Holy shit. It was very funny to be there for a day and just being like, whoa, this is people's lives. Like they are committed. And it is a lot. Did you make it into the did you make it into the cut? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Wait, weren't you in the background of something else, too? I feel like there was a show. OK. was called i'm dying up here that's what it was called that's it that's it that's it that's it um well i was thinking about sebastian stan while watching this and yeah he's also in um pam and tommy right now and i feel like he's obviously a very attractive man. And you see, he's a good actor. But he's like not ever the reason I see something. I'm not like, ooh, a Sebastian Stan movie. Like, I gotta check out that.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And as I was watching this, I was thinking like, oh, my favorite Sebastian Stan movies are when he like lets the woman that he's acting opposite like shine. He's he's like a good supporting. He does seem like a really good scene partner. Yes. And so in like I, Tanya, with Margot Robbie, with Lily James and Pam and Tommy and with Daisy Edgar Jones in this, I feel like he really like lets them shine. And I read an interview with him recently where he like said that he was being interviewed by Margot Robbie and said, like, I think my when I'm at my best is when I'm like opposite a strong like female lead
Starting point is 00:21:38 and like stop it, Sebastian Stan. I mean, what are you trying to do to us? And because at first I was like, I don't know if I like Sebastian Stan. And then I like read that article and I was like, oh, my God, he knows he like knows that this is when he's good. It's not just me noticing this choice. It's like him making these choices. And yeah, it made me really appreciate him more because, yeah, this is probably one of my in fresh is probably one of my favorite sebastian stan roles um but normally yeah i could kind of like he's not like why i'm usually enjoying a show i love i love both of them so much that i want to see this movie just for that reason i think you could and we're gonna find out. Okay. I saw a little video.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Did you guys see that video that was going around Instagram of them doing a little dance, practicing a little dance together? No. Backstage. And I was like, this is cute. Okay. No. But can I just say, I don't know what has happened with my explore page on Instagram
Starting point is 00:22:39 recently. Oh, mine is fucked. Mine is fucked lately. And I got. I'm kidding. I just showed him my scary thing. recently oh mine is fucked mine is fucked lately and and i got okay i'm just showing my scary thing i'm just remembering it now i got a video on my explore page on instagram of a baby what oh no a baby kitten no a baby child like a baby child getting their head shaved I don't know why it was happening and I don't know why I got it and I don't know why I got it. And it was so weird.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Why would someone do that? Why did the baby have such long hair? It wasn't like it was a problem. It was just like, you know, like, you know, some babies have longer hair. It wasn't like an infant. It was like probably like an eight or nine month old that had like a baby, but had like lovely hair. And they were shaving his head bald like cubo bald
Starting point is 00:23:48 I don't know why I hate there's so much like kid content on Instagram that I'm fed now because I'm a mom and obviously I'm like looking at stuff with babies but I just hate it I'm like turn it off like I don't want to see this like I don't
Starting point is 00:24:04 know who these babies are these are Like I don't want to see this like I don't Know who these babies are these are Strangers I don't know these babies I don't want to see This fucking baby I knew this baby but I don't know this baby Oh I have a lot to say On this topic oh my god I could go On and on and on and on and on and on and on but I
Starting point is 00:24:22 Will stop for right now okay let's hear About fresh okay some St stats for us it has an 81 on rotten tomatoes uh 65 on metacritic and a 6.7 on imdb so pretty standard standard ratings uh the budget is estimated between 15 and 20 million, but no box office because it went straight to Hulu, which I wonder what those numbers are and how that works. It's all kind of a mystery, you know? Yeah, that's still such a mystery. We don't know how that's working. Mm. And there's not a lot of trivia. It's Mimi Cave's directorial debut. She had directed a couple shorts before this and the only thing the only other thing i wanted to flag is that the cinematographer is pavel
Starting point is 00:25:12 pogorzelski who was the cinematographer on hereditary and midsummer oh huge huge huge so the movie looks good. Wow. But that's really all the trivia I have. So shall we watch this trailer? Yes. The women in our parents' generation, they were more into femininity. You know what I mean? Because I think you would just look great in a dress.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You got it done? Pretty much done, actually. Thank you. If it's cool, I'm just gonna snag these leftovers. I wanna know how you do it, Molly. Do what? Dating people. No, no. You do not need a man, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:54 So don't play the games. Just be you, straight out the gate. Do you live around here? Because I live on aisle six. That was terrible. Was was kind of terrible. What's his Instagram? I want to stalk a little bit. He doesn't have one.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Say what? Yeah. Oh, no. See, that's shady. Let's play a game. Tell me something you don't want me to know. I hate this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:20 We put all our hopes in finding happiness through someone else. Yeah. Girl, you are all digmatized and I haven't even seen this dude. What's going on? I'm gonna tell you, but you're gonna freak out. No, this isn't happening. Yeah, it's happening. No games.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Know what you wanted? It's about giving. Giving yourself over to somebody becoming one forever that's love forget this Forget this. Here's what I realized when I was watching that trailer. Is that what I meant was that I wanted to watch these two star in a rom-com together. That's just a rom-com. Not anything else. I don't need any of this other terrifying content.
Starting point is 00:27:24 No, thank you. Yeah, it's a horror movie. It is. What if this one was just a rom-com and I tricked you guys? It'd be a nice trick. I'd be so happy. It would have been a nice trick. I actually thought Sebastian Stan looked kind of bad in this trailer.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Bad acting? No, like ugly. I thought he looked cute in the grocery store and then it got worse. Did you not think he looked cute in the grocery store? No, he looked cute in the grocery store, but this is my favorite vibe of his. And it shouldn't be. Because of what? Because of what happens. This is a good thing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Your spidey sense is up. My spidey sense is up. Also, is she much younger than him? Yes. Or is this age appropriate? No, she's much younger than him. I think was up. Also, is she much younger than him? Yes. Or is this age appropriate? No, she's much younger than him. I think she's, yeah, like 15 years younger than him. No. She's 23, I think. And I'm pretty sure he's like 38.
Starting point is 00:28:13 She's 23? She's really young. Yeah. I mean, she was playing like a college student in high school and college and normal people. Yeah, but oh my God. Oh my God. She's 23. Yep yep that's not okay people can't be young oh you mean the age difference he's 39 this is not okay
Starting point is 00:28:35 this is not okay listen it's not played as okay so you can rest easy knowing that okay they they play that you see that's maybe that's Maybe that's it too. He like looked like a grown ass adult. Like he looked like a 40 year old man. I wasn't picking up on that. Because I feel like a lot of times he's like sort of scruffier and like a little like looks a little you know less. But he looks like a like
Starting point is 00:28:58 suit older guy. You know what I mean? And I didn't. Because he is hot. I'm looking at pictures of him right now. He's hot. I mean, the consensus is certainly that he is a hot man. And he is, I think, very good in this. And sometimes the consensus isn't, I don't
Starting point is 00:29:16 agree with it, but in this, I agree with that consensus for sure. Is she British playing American? Yes. And that was another thing is like, she's so good at accents because she's also in normal people plays irish oh she's not irish she's great irish accent no she is british and her american accent was good it's great it sounded great um i'm so impressed wow i want to be her god yeah she's she's really. She's great. Should we talk about this movie? I guess.
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Starting point is 00:32:25 okay so we start we meet our main character daisy edgar jones her name is noah fun name for a girl name i like that noah fun name that's really cute yeah yeah okay no i'm just like my wheels are spinning like if i have a girl like I'm going to name her Noah. Noah is a good name for a girl. Yeah. I like it as well. I support it. Henley for your next child.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Honestly, like what if I did though because of this movie she's named after her. It'd be fun. You get to show her fresh one day. Yeah. This is your namesake. You can decide at the end of the episode yeah say probably not but we meet her and she's in her car swiping through like a dating app a tinder type app um and is at like in the parking lot of a restaurant about to meet a guy on a date
Starting point is 00:33:22 who's named chad this is going to be a um first date and she gets a phone call from her best friend molly who is played by jojo t gibbs who this is the first thing i've seen her in but she is um i recognized her because she is sydney washington's girlfriend who is like a new york comedian and i just thought it was funny that like Instagram just like burns people into my brain. I was like, I know this person. She's the girlfriend of somebody I follow.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You do. You ever have those moments where you just feel like such a fucking creep? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All the, all the time,
Starting point is 00:33:57 but she's great in this, but her name is Molly and Molly and Noah are talking and Noah's like, not, not psyched about this date um but she's there already and they're just like oh yeah you know dating sucks but just you know you never know what's gonna happen so go in and so she goes into this restaurant and has a very bad date with Chad who is like sexist to her says like women used to be a lot more feminine and you'd look really pretty in a dress, making these comments, commenting on her looks. She's obviously immediately put off, but sits through the date.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And at the end of the date, he, as they're walking out, goes in to kiss her. And she pushes him, steps back and says you know i don't think we're a good match and he flips and is like an asshole to her and is like oh like okay i was just like trying to be nice you're not even really my type and she like laughs a bit and he's like is that funny to you like it's just an awful ending to a date and ends with him, like, storming off and being like, good luck finding a boyfriend. You stuck up, bitch. And Jesus Christ. It's a very bad day.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And I got to say, as someone who, like, goes on dates, I haven't had a date this bad. But dating does suck. But I don't know if they're I don't think they usually go quite like this. They're usually fine. Yeah. But then she's walking back to her car as the the person gets closer we see that it is an older man with his like young son and like she breathes a sigh of relief um then the next day she's uh kickboxing with molly and talking just lamenting about dating in general like i'm i'll you know i always end up alone, which is totally fine.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm totally happy alone. But I don't know how you do it. I'm just so sick of dating. And Molly's just like, yeah, it does suck. But you got to just keep going or don't. You can keep doing it or don't. You can be alone, too. The choice is up to you.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Just be yourself is the most important thing. So that night noah goes to the grocery store and sebastian stan walks up to her his name is steve and he uh they have like a proper meet cute which she you can, is excited about because meeting people on dating apps is not as exciting as meeting people in real life. You want a fun story. And he comes up to her and makes a joke about like the great cotton candy grapes and makes her try one. Like they really do taste like cotton candy. And she's guarded, but also you can tell charmed.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And they chat for a little bit and he asks for her number and she gives it to him and is uh lets herself be a little bit excited by it as again like talking to molly and was like he was really cute but she's like i'm already like nervous about it. Like it's dating is stressful. And like, why hasn't he texted me yet? Then he texts her and they set up their first date and they meet at a bar and they're having a nice time. And she like knows the bartender. The bartender's name is Paul. having a nice time and the she like knows the bartender the bartender's name is paul and they get kind of drunk and they're chatting asking the normal getting to know you questions
Starting point is 00:37:55 where are you from uh where is your family she says my uh dad is dead and i don't really talk to my mom and he says oh my like mom is dead and i don't really talk to my mom. And he says, oh, my mom is dead and I don't really talk to my dad. So we have something in common. Dead parents cheers. And they have a good laugh about that. Oh, God. We find out that he is a doctor. He works in mostly plastic surgery.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Oh, no. No. Oh, no. Yeah. They just keep drinking and get a little more vulnerable and looser. And they're like having conversations where she admits to him, you know, like, I fucking hate dating. Like, I hate this. I hate doing this. I'm so sick of it.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And he's like, oh, I get it. Like, me too. And she invites him back to her place and they have sex. Okay. And it's pretty sexy sex. I got to say. Sex is sex. Pretty sexy sex.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And he spends the night and in the morning she wakes up before him and she takes a photo of him sleeping, which I think is a, it's a little creepy and. Yeah, I don't love. I don't love. Interesting choice. Yeah, it's because she's excited and she wants to show Molly, like look at the guy because she tells Molly the next day
Starting point is 00:39:18 that he doesn't have an Instagram. Molly says, that's a red flag. What the fuck? Like, who is this guy? And Noah says to Molly, oh, Paul was our bartender Molly says, that's a red flag. What the fuck? Like, who is this guy? And Noah says to Molly, oh, Paul was our bartender. And we get the idea that Paul and Molly used to hook up. Okay. And we get a little like happy series of dates that Noah and Steve are going on.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Things are going well, like a happy little couple. Everything's good. He's getting the rom-com she wants. It is a rom-com and nothing bad ever happens. Roll credits. Let me get that tattooed on my body as roll credits. And on one of these dates, they're at Noah's house. And he says, have you told anybody about me?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Have you told anybody about us? And she says, maybe, like my friend Molly. And he says, tell me more about Molly. Who's Molly? And she just says, she's my best friend. I might have told her that I met a guy that I like a little bit. And it's very flirty. And it's clearly them getting swept up in the early stages of romance, falling in love with each other.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And he says, we should go away somewhere. We should go on a trip together. And again, you said, are we there? We noticed that he's almost 20 years older than her or not so much or. No, actually, no, not really. But nobody sees him but her. So it's like nobody can. There's nobody.
Starting point is 00:40:56 He's not bringing it up. She's not bringing it up. Yeah. Perhaps other people would. Yeah. Because perhaps other people will. No, actually, they don't really but okay i just mean like the relationship is by the end of the movie we're not going to be like this is the
Starting point is 00:41:12 perfect relationship okay sure sure sure sure sure also i think there's in that age range where people wouldn't necessarily comment on it like 23 and 38 like even though that is 15 years older like happens all the time kind of I mean yeah they are both adults but and you know it's hard to know how old people are he looks good she could be one of those people who looks like a baby forever you know she's little
Starting point is 00:41:35 she came right out of the womb like seconds ago that's just her vibe yeah you know but okay I'm just I'm sorry for whatever reason I'm like that's huge well we've talked about before i don't love when anyone is dating someone under like 27 your brain keeps developing until you're 27 and so 27 should be the real adult age in my opinion should be i don't think 40 year olds should yeah people under 27. I think the age difference is fine if everybody's over 27.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah, honestly, I know what you mean. 23 just feels so young. To each his own. Sure. Henley's husband is 19. We've been together for seven years. No, no, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's a joke. It's not true. It's not true. It's not true. It's revealed now. Oh my god. But yeah, so Steve wants to go away somewhere. He says it can be a surprise. I want to take you somewhere. And she relays this to molly who is again like i don't like that like a surprise
Starting point is 00:42:51 like are you fucking joking me like where are you gonna go sammy can i pause for one minute yes and ask a question of the group yes Yes. Oh, okay. The phrase, are you joking me? Are you joking me? How many of you heard this before? Or do you say, are you kidding me? No, it's exclusively,
Starting point is 00:43:15 are you kidding me? Are you joking me is not a thing. Is this a phrase that I have created? I think you have created it. You said it in one of our recent episodes a couple of times, and I was like, oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I guess that's a version of it. Sammy does say it. She goes, are you joking me? She does say that. It does mean the same thing as are you kidding me? But I've just never heard anybody else say it. I think I can pinpoint when this came into my vocabulary. Because there's a comedian named Meg Stalter who...
Starting point is 00:43:45 Oh, we've heard of her. Yeah. We all know who she is. I'm telling our listeners who... There's one video where she... I think she actually says it kind of a lot. She says, are you joking my ass right now? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Uh-huh. And it made me laugh a lot every time. And so I think I've just adopted it into my own vocabulary, but changed it to, are you joking me? But really what I mean is, are you joking my ass right now? Are you joking my ass right now? Are you joking my ass right now? Are you joking my ass right now?
Starting point is 00:44:14 That's so funny. That's so funny. Because Emily, when you said that, when you said that, I was shocked. I was like, who would ever say that? I don't know what you're talking about. And then the second you said Sammy said it, I was like in my memory just so many times. So many times. And it's found natural when you say it. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I didn't even notice. Are you joking me? Are you joking my ass right now? See, it's funny. I'm doing it. I'm keeping it. Are you joking me? Okay. But yeah, so Molly's not down with this, but Noah's going to do it. She's, I think eventually Steve says we're going to go to Cottage Creek or something
Starting point is 00:44:52 like that. I can't remember. And so Molly is suspicious, but says, all right, well, just like keep texting me and like send me pictures and stuff when you're there. And so they are going to drive to steve's place and spend the night there and then leave from his place in the morning because his place is closer but she no hasn't been to steve's place yet and so they start driving and it's a little far out into it kind of reminds me of the road on get Out when the deer jumps in front of their car.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's like that. But it's also like nighttime when they're driving. And just seems like they're driving into the woods. I think it's supposed to take place in Portland. Okay. And her phone loses reception as they're driving. And she says it out loud like, oh, fuck fuck i don't get any service out here and he says oh yeah it's just like for the drive you'll it'll it'll there's wi-fi at my house like we'll
Starting point is 00:45:50 get it back and uh they arrive at his place it's very nice he is an adult man almost 40 year old man that is a plastic surgeon so he's clearly making a good amount of money. And her reception is still not working. And this is when she kind of is a little bit nervous by it. She, in the beginning, was not nervous at all. She likes this guy. She trusts him. And then this moment when the Wi-Fi is not working, he's like, oh, weird. Like, I'll fix it tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Like, I don't know what's going on. Her little spidey senses start tingling a little bit, but not enough. Oh, God. Oh, it would be so scary. Oh, my God. Well, you're really fucked, right? You're like out in the middle. You don't have anywhere.
Starting point is 00:46:39 You know, you got to. What are you going to do? Steal his keys and steal his car? He's a piece of a big, strong man. And like call a cab service. There are no landlines these days. Like, what going to do? Steal his keys and steal his car? He's a big strong man. And call a cab service? There are no landlines these days. What do you do? I'm fucked. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Especially if you start to realize it's by design. That's the real scary thing to be like, oh no. I've been trapped. I have been trapped. Absolutely terrifying. I don't like it. And he makes her a drink. No, don't like it. And he makes her a drink. No, don't drink it.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And she drinks it and is like trying to relax and is like, whatever, I'm just like overreacting or something, which is what we say not to do. It's a crazy thing that humans do where you just rationalize things in your brain that you're like animal instincts are telling you are wrong. You override them with your thinking brain Mm-hmm, and that is true. That's a real thing that happens all the time. Mm-hmm So she drinks this drink and guess what? It's roofied classic She passes out and collapses on the floor And and the main titles come up it's kind of fun. This is like 30 minutes into the movie. We get a 70s era title sequence.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Just kind of fun. And then she wakes up confused. And it's like a close-up shot so we can't really see where she is. And she sees Steve in the room with her and looks at him and is like, what happened? Like rubbing her head. And she says, did I like pass out? And he says, no, I drugged you. And she obviously is like, what?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Like, what the fuck? is like what like what the fuck and we pan out and see that she is handcuffed in handcuffed to the ground of what looks like a carpeted prison cell like basically a nice prison cell there's a little little bed in the corner like a mattress pad that she's on and that's where her handcuffs her handcuffs are like connected to a chain that's like drilled into the god i hate this more than anything else i hate this more than anything else and she asks him what the fuck is going on and he says i'm gonna tell you but you're going to really freak out. Which I thought was a very good line, but also so scary.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And she's starting to panic, obviously, and is like trying to stand up, seeing like she can't move past the like leash basically that she's on. She can't get past that. And she's like, this isn't happening. This isn't happening. He's like, yes, it is. Yes, it is. Noah, sit down. Sit down.
Starting point is 00:49:24 It's happening. like this is happening and she starts crying and says are you gonna rape me and he says no i'm not gonna rape you um sit down like i told you i'm gonna explain it to you like sit down and she sits down and he says listen carefully. I'm going to sell your meat. What? And her face in this moment is so still. I actually thought my TV like got fucked up. Like I thought it was like a still image because she is so frozen in horror. It's like a very it's just like a still shot of her
Starting point is 00:50:07 with her jaw hanging open like what as he's explaining people will pay me a lot of money for it i'm not gonna kill you not yet because i make more money when the meat is fresh so i'm gonna keep you alive as long as i can and just take like pieces from you piece by piece. And I'm going to take care of you. It's going to be OK. Like, I'm going to cook you nice meals. It's going to be nice. Like nobody's ever cooked for you.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Like your parents didn't cook for you type of thing. Oh, my God. She fucking panics, screaming as like like running trying to like break this chain and he like overpowers her and wrestles her down to the ground is basically you know like not smothering her but just hold overpowering her in a way that she can't even like flail around anymore and he's like stop it stop it stop it stop it she's screaming to a point where she like can't move and he says stop being so dramatic oh my god i hate this concept i just hate i hate it also she's like such a skinny little thing yeah what kind of meat is
Starting point is 00:51:20 he talking about limbs full limbs oh god oh no God. Oh, no. Oh, God. We're going to find out. No. I'm mad. I'm mad. Roll credits. Roll credits. Roll credits.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Roll credits. Roll credits. I really wanted it to be literally not this. If it could have just been not been this, that would have been better. I just wanted it to be not this. Yeah. Which I bet is how she's feeling as well. I just wanted it to be not this. Is it too much to ask for it
Starting point is 00:51:48 to not be this? Okay. Wowee. We cut back to Molly who calls her to check in. This is the next day now. Noah doesn't answer, obviously. And she gets a text back that says,
Starting point is 00:52:03 service isn't great. I'll call you later whenever I can. So he obviously has her phone and is texting Molly from it and sends a photo of a waterfall from a cottage grove is apparently what the place they're at is supposed to be. And we see Noah now alone in the room, screaming like, help me, help me. Can anybody hear me? And a voice on the other side of the wall says he's not here. Another woman, another woman's voice. And Noah says, please, please help me, help me, help me.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I need help. And the woman's voice says, I can't, I can't help you. We're in the same boat. Like I'm in here too and we find out this woman's name is Penny and she says how long have you been here she says I have no idea I don't
Starting point is 00:52:58 know what time of day it is I've lost track of all time I'm fucking slowly being eaten I'm oh my god I don't know I don't know what what day it is I've lost track of all time. I'm fucking slowly being eaten. I'm. Oh, my God. I don't know. I don't know what what day it is. And Noah is desperately like people must be looking for you, your family. And Penny says, I don't.
Starting point is 00:53:18 The thing is, I don't really have much family. Noah is crying like neither do I. And Penny says, that makes sense. Like, that's probably part of the whole deal. And she says, is anybody else in here? And Penny says, just one beside us, Melissa. And then yells out, Melissa, can you hear me? And a woman's voice starts like singing, screaming like that.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And she says Melissa's kind of lost her mind she's been here the longest I've also lost my mind and we're five seconds into the bad part we go back to molly who is
Starting point is 00:54:09 really doing her due diligence as a friend is googling steve plastic surgeon portland trying to find any information about this guy nothing's coming up um And she's texting like, how's it going? Can you send more pictures? And she gets a text back that says, need some, you know, digital free time. Turning my phone off now, but I love you. And Molly, Google image searches the waterfall image and sees that it's just from like a website pulled from a website and she starts getting really nervous and texts back like call me right now it's an emergency uh but the phone gets turned off and this is the point at which i'm like this movie's about the
Starting point is 00:54:58 importance of female friendship absolutely yes yes yes yes and also googling people because if you're a plastic surgeon like you have a website for sure the thing is too like have men do men tell their friends when they're going on dates like here's the person we're going to date with here's
Starting point is 00:55:20 where we're going gay men I would imagine gay men but yeah but I don't think straight men, probably not. Probably not. They probably. How often do you think straight men genuinely fear for their lives? Probably not very much. Straight men sound off in the comments.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Sound off in the comments. Hey, hey, here's a quick. Hey, poll for all you straight men. Do you fear for your life? How often? How often do you guys fear for your life? How often? How often do you guys fear for your life? How often do you think you're going to get murdered? I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:49 I wouldn't say very often, but it has happened. It has definitely happened. I'd say probably less now that I'm in my house almost all of the time. I would say less now that I'm in my house all the time, but and, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:06 there have been only, there have been very few moments where I've genuinely been like, okay, this, I could like, what is about to happen? But there have been many, many moments where I go, okay, okay, okay, okay, we're fine. Like the tiny, like
Starting point is 00:56:21 someone walking too close to me on the sidewalk approach me being like, uh, like that has happened. I don't know. Every few months. Like that's like truly when I was out in the world. Every few months probably. Same. I've only had a few like fucking really scary.
Starting point is 00:56:36 There was a time in San Francisco and I was walking home and a van followed me and slowed to my speed of walking. And I turned around. I was with my friend Jessica. So there's two of us, at least. Thank God. But still very scary. And we turned around. I was with my friend Jessica, so there's two of us at least, thank God. But still very scary. And we turned around and started just walking the other way and the fucking van made a U-turn and followed us again. And we just fucking bolted
Starting point is 00:56:54 home and called the police. It was so scary. That's so scary. Fuck. Yeah. I went on a hike once by myself but during the day but I didn't have any good cell reception. I was on a hike once by myself But during the day But I didn't have any good cell reception I was on a hike by myself In a car
Starting point is 00:57:10 It was like through like The hills where there were like some houses But not enough houses that like Anyone would necessarily hear you if something happened And a car A van drove past me And I was like okay got out of the road for it Because I was like sort of walking the street and it drove past me And then a few minutes later it drove back past me And I was like okay got out of the road for it because I was like sort of walking the street and it drove past me and then a few
Starting point is 00:57:26 minutes later it drove back past me and I was like same van I don't like that and then I was rounding a corner and I saw the van parked at the end of the street like just sitting there and I had to walk past it there was no other way to go and I was like oh my fucking god oh my fucking god oh my fucking god
Starting point is 00:57:40 passed it and then ran like ran as fucking fast as i could and like was like pulling up i'm trying to call fucking anyone and get reception and anyway that person didn't murder me i don't even know if they were trying to but it was really scary yeah and that was during the day oh yeah i yeah i don't i can't think of any like obvious stories where like a van was involved, but there have been many times. Vans are scary. Especially like. Vans are scary.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Vans are definitely scary. Vans are a big part of the picture when something like that happens to a woman. Yeah. I mean, there's literally like everybody knows what a rape van is. There's literally a type of van that's like commonly referred to as rape van. Like for a reason. Yeah, for a reason. Well, that's one good reason to move
Starting point is 00:58:26 to new york is because you're just not around um where everyone's safe yeah where there's lots of vans there no but you're like surrounded by people all the time you're never alone do you know that is true but it's very scary when you're alone in new y. I will say it is a particularly scary feeling. Yeah. It just, yeah, I don't, sorry, it just got, you know, that's a lot to get into. I'm sure men get, like, scared, like, if they're, like, on the street alone at night. I think anyone would be
Starting point is 00:58:55 scared in that situation, but I think women more so probably have the instinct to be scared in, like, less scary settings, like, just to constantly be, like, okay, who just walked in? Who's behind me right now? You just have to be scared in like less scary settings like just to constantly be like okay who's who just walked in who's behind me right now you should be vigilant constantly vigilant you just yeah right because it's like anyone can be the victim of a terrible crime like literally anytime i go on a walk i only put one headphone in i like absolutely i will never put both headphones in
Starting point is 00:59:22 i don't know if that's something yeah men do but it's i just will absolutely never put both headphones in. I don't know if that's something men do, but I just will absolutely never have both headphones in. Or just pretend like you're talking on the phone. If you walk past anyone scary, you're just talking on the phone, right? Of course, even if you're not. You're talking on the phone. So you can't do anything to me because I'm talking on the phone. That kind of thing is just like instinctual I absolutely pretend to be talking to someone like someone
Starting point is 00:59:48 who knows will hear if I scream right now yeah that was the thing I really liked about this movie was that there's so many of those things that like all women just know like we just know the key trick between your knuckles and that kind of thing
Starting point is 01:00:04 so okay yeah well i think it's about to get worse but let's find out let's find out let's find out uh so we cut to a scene of steve blasting some 80s hits dancing around in his kitchen he's got a little dumbwaiter that dings comes up from below and it has a human leg in it a big old thigh and calf and he is just dancing while he slices up this leg he's got his meat pulverizer he's like banging it with that little hammer thing fucking christ packaging it up in little ceiling little bags of it and putting them in separate cardboard boxes it's all like this very dancey type thing he's having a nice time doing this and then he after he has the meat prepped and packaged and separated into various cardboard boxes, he then sets them on a table and starts.
Starting point is 01:01:11 He has printed out photos of Melissa. And he is putting a photo of Melissa in each box with a little note that says Melissa. And he puts a bra in each box so whoever this is being sent to clearly it's like part of what they enjoy about it is like knowing who they are eating ew that is there's like is a seemingly vaguely sexual aspect to it as well as the bras and stuff yeah it's nasty um And then a like business looking man comes and picks them, picks all the boxes up and drives off with them.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So this is like he has an operation. He has his own Etsy page, but it's for women's meat. Exactly. Downstairs, Noah is not eating any of the food that he is making for her in protest and he comes
Starting point is 01:02:08 down and says like why aren't you eating she says i need to shower and he's like you're so mad at me huh she's very funny and he says do you need to alone? Or do you want like company in the shower? Okay. And she just looks at him with like daggers in her eyes. And he's like, I'm joking. It was a joke. I'm trying to make you laugh. I haven't seen you smile in like the whole time you've been here, which is so crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Why aren't you smiling more? My little meat prisoner. What do you mean the meat prisoner more my little meat prisoner oh my god my little meat princess smile for me um that just reminded me a real
Starting point is 01:02:56 tangent real curve here but just want to let everybody know that Jared Leto did win the Razzie he did okay all is right in the world so So congrats. Congrats to him. And congrats to us. But Steve says in this moment, okay, can you give me a smile?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Just give me a smile and I'll you can go take a shower. And she grimaces into a little smile, like forces a smile. And he agrees to go take her to go take a shower he can take the handcuffs off the chain so she's still handcuffed but he is just now walking with her down the hall this is our
Starting point is 01:03:33 first look at the building and there's cells next to each other which we've already i guess figured out because we've heard penny and as they walking down, they get to a staircase that leads up to like a door that only he has the key to. So they're in like the basement basically of this house. They're underground. And she's scoping the whole place out and looking all around. They go upstairs out of the basement and they're walking down the hall. She's looking around. She spots blood on one of the walls and she makes a run for it. She like runs away from him
Starting point is 01:04:16 and just darts off and he grabs her. He catches up to her, grabs her, says, bad girl, bashes her head against the wall knocks her out and she cuts to black and we fade up in a little surgery room steve steve now in his scrubs again with his 80s music playing because let me remind you he is 39 music from his childhood yes that's right i'm like kind of sick of the whole like oh how funny a serial killer who like loves to like
Starting point is 01:04:55 have fun and dance and music i don't know what else that's in it's giving me like yeah um christian bale what's american psycho american psycho vibes i'm just kind of like cool i get it definitely is kind of that vibe yeah but she wakes up on this table and is very groggy and out of it and is like i can't i can't move and he says i know i gave you an epidural so you probably can't feel much of anything and she's like what what's happening and he says i'm taking your ass no and we see him cut off her butt and she has like tears coming out of her eyes, but she can't move. And he's like, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'm a doctor. Remember, I'm going to take good care of you. I've like got to cauterize your ass so that it like heals properly. But like, I'm a good doctor. Like, you don't have to worry. Like, it's going to be fine. I hate this. I hate this.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I hate this. We go back to see Molly goes into the bar that Paul works and she's trying to find info on Steve. Now she knows something is up and she's like, who what was the guy's name that was here with Noah the other night? Can you give me his like credit card information? Something with his name on it. I need to like locate this guy. Paul's like clearly feeling still a little slighted from however their hookup and ended like i guess get over yourself paul it ended on on molly's terms so paul's being a little coy about it but he's also like i can't like even if i had it like i can't
Starting point is 01:06:38 like it's illegal also and she's yeah frustrated she needs that. She needs that info. Then we see Noah back in her prison cell and she's laying on her front in like a gown, like a hospital gown. And we hear Penny yell through the wall, how's your ass? And she says says still gone and uh in this little conversation that penny and noah have noah says i can't believe i fucking slept with that guy and penny says you slept with him like i don't think anybody else has slept with him melissa didn't sleep with him like i hadn't heard of anybody sleeping with him that makes noah feel very gross oh that's sad then back at molly's office she's still doing more googling and digging and she gets a text from paul with his full name and it's like here's his
Starting point is 01:07:34 name i found his credit card info she types it in and finds his wife's facebook his wife's Facebook. His wife. He has a family. His wife's name is Anna. And he has two sons as well. And she's like, oh fuck. Oh my god. Because he's a grown man. He's an adult man. That's right. And we see Noah having to use the
Starting point is 01:08:02 bathroom and like sit on the toilet seat. That's enough. We don't need to know the bathroom and like sit on the toilet seat. That's enough. We don't need to know the details here. You actually don't really see much of anything but it's just yeah it just seems horrible to have to go to the bathroom without a butt.
Starting point is 01:08:17 We see as she's like going to the bathroom Penny is screaming and being taken into the surgery room as well noah is it like cuts to a little later and noah's reading a magazine looking really you know fucking downtrodden sometimes i'm looking for words that are not just like sad. And I couldn't think of one. Oh my god. She is a prisoner
Starting point is 01:08:49 of a man taking her body parts to sell for me and she's downtrodden. She's having a bad day. She's having a bad day. Oh my god. That was the first word that came oh my god as I like that was the first word that came to my mind I was like this one's not gonna
Starting point is 01:09:09 fly but I'm gonna say it a bit downtrodden and Steve comes in and says are you still in denial like you're still mad at me and I'll always be mad at you steve yeah like what are you denial or not i'm mad at you i'm not gonna get over it and i'm downtrodden
Starting point is 01:09:34 i'm very downtrodden today steve it's not my best day i'm having a bad day that's day steve and uh she asks him why did you sleep with me steve and he said he looks a little um caught off guard by this question and he says i told you i told you i liked you and he says but you're right that it it was a mistake i shouldn't have done that and he leaves her in there and he says try and relax fear and stress is bad for the meat oh my god for the meat so she is left with her magazine and as she's flipping through the pages she finds a note scrawled in the little margins that says if you're reading this he likes you use it keep fighting signed sammy it was me that wrote it terrifying because he doesn't give everybody magazines i guess i guess not location yep so we hear penny in the other room is really not doing
Starting point is 01:10:35 well have we seen her ever no we haven't seen these when we were staring at uh molly texts paul that she's gonna go or she had she had texted him like i found this motherfucker has a whole family and he's like oh shit what are you gonna do she's like i'm going to his house like and she starts sharing his her location with paul to be like if shit goes awry This is where I am. She is committed in a way that I admire. Mm-hmm. And so she pulls up to the house, knocks on the door. Steve's wife answers. And she says, I know this is going to sound crazy, but my friend is missing.
Starting point is 01:11:20 And I think your husband might know where she is. And the woman looks really confused and is like that does sound pretty crazy but okay come in like what are you talking about they like sit down on the couch and molly shows her the photo of steve that noah had sent to her and but it's like he's like laying down and his like face is smushed into a pillow and so she's like it does kind of look like him, but I can't say for sure. I'm sorry. You should call the police if you're really stressed.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Have you called the police yet? And Molly's like, I really think your husband knows where she is. And as she says that, Steve arrives home. And Molly says, are you Steve? And he's like, my name is Brendan. And she's like, I think you know my friend Noah. And he's like, I don't. I know.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Sorry, I don't know a Noah. I think you might be confused. Like you might have the wrong people. And Molly's like, OK, I guess. All right. Sorry for bothering you guys. And as he's like leading her to the front door, she calls Noah's phone and it rings in his pocket. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Oh, she's a genius. And he turns and looks at her, takes the phone out of his pocket and goes, oh, it's you. You really shouldn't have done that. it's you. You really shouldn't have done that. Ah! And the wife smashes something over Molly's head, knocks her out.
Starting point is 01:12:51 The wife's in on it too? Mm-hmm. Anna! Oh no, now it's all up to Paul. Then we cut to Paul texting Molly for an update and the text's not going through and Paul looking concerned. And this is when I'm like, oh, this is a movie about the importance of flirting with bartenders.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Just something that I am quite good at as well. You are. You are good at that. Yes. Surround yourself with female friendship and bartender acquaintances. That's right. That's right. Good, strong friends and nice little ties to bartenders.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Go out with your female friends to all the local bars. Yeah, that's what she's trying to say. Exactly. That's the message. So back in Noah's cell, she decides to now take a different approach based on that message we got from the magazine. to now take a different approach based on that message we got from the magazine, which again is something I think all women
Starting point is 01:13:47 are familiar with, with trying to appease your, that person. So he, Steve comes in and she says, what does it taste like? The meal. And he looks like
Starting point is 01:14:03 clearly excited that she has asked this question, but still a little suspicious. the meal. Ew. And he looks like clearly excited that she has asked this question but still a little suspicious and he's like says like it's exquisite. It's like nothing you've ever had before. And she just kind of goes, hmm. He's like, that's it?
Starting point is 01:14:19 She's just planting seeds here. And eventually, I think later that night he comes back and says why don't we have dinner tomorrow and she's like okay oh my god um we see paul looking at his phone and the texts are now not going through to Molly anymore. He's like texted a few times. Her phone is off, but he had taken a screenshot before the phone was off of where her location was.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Because he saw it's like he was like, what the fuck? She's like in the middle of nowhere. And so he's now going to check out that location. We go back to steve's house we see steve's wife like looking at herself in the mirror doing that thing where you like pull your skin back to see like what you would look like with a facelift and then she gets in the shower and we see she removes a prosthetic leg she is missing a leg is this sammy i mean i know her name is anna her name is anna okay but i kind of thought that too i think yeah at this at this point we don't know it could be um but it's not okay we don't know but we know and it's not so we see her yeah like sitting like that holding that little like
Starting point is 01:15:46 thing in a bar in a shower to like hold herself up while she bathes herself and it cuts from that to steve going on a run running as fast as he can in his little gym shorts i thought that was a nice cut his seeing his his fully functioning legs and him just freaking living his life. And he goes back to the house and we see in his freezer, there's like a freezer in the basement area that is filled with meat and limbs. And all of it is bagged and tagged with different women's names and dates. tagged with different women's names and dates and he selects one and starts
Starting point is 01:16:28 cooking up dinner for him and Noah. It's a gross little montage-y part where he's like putting meat through a meat grinder. A lot of close-ups of meat and like wet squishy meat sounds. A lot of squishy
Starting point is 01:16:43 sound design. Squelching, squelching. That's what they probably would say in the subtitles. And then he brings Noah up for dinner. He handcuffs her to her chair, I think, or like ties her to the chair somehow. She has to sit on a little pillow. He puts a pillow down for her butt. But she's flirting with him in this scene she's she's trying to flirt with him and is uh saying like you know when did you first taste it we get
Starting point is 01:17:15 a little bit of backstory that basically once he tasted human meat his life changed he like felt purpose he said becoming one with someone else forever is a beautiful thing like that's surrender that's love and he found other people like him he says there's not many of us it's the one percent of the one percent it's the people who really really want what nobody else can have he He prepares her some, like, a big meatball, spaghetti and meatball. Disgusting, disgusting, disgusting, disgusting. And as he puts it in front of her, she says, is it me? And he smiles and says, no, this is Hope.
Starting point is 01:18:02 And he, like, laughs and he's, like, kind of funny. Kind of a funny name in this situation. And he has a bite and he gives her a bite. And she eats it. And we get these, like, super cuts of, like, what we assume are all the clients that he gives sells meat to like close-ups again of them like shoveling meat into their mouth and it's with like animal
Starting point is 01:18:32 sound effects and this is the second movie we've done so soon after doing one already horrific spaghetti eating scene. We're doing another one too soon for my liking. That spaghetti scene is pretty fun, honestly.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I didn't like the pics. I love it. I love it. But he tells her this meal is about $30,000 and it would be more expensive if it was fresh. And she eats it and it's like a date, basically. And at the end, he takes her back down to her cell, and she says, thank you, Steve, that was really nice.
Starting point is 01:19:11 And as he leaves her cell, he goes to the cell next to hers and pulls out Molly. And Molly has tape over her mouth, so she can't yell or anything, so Noah doesn't even notice that there's anyone new in there. And we see Noah vomiting after Steve leaves, like making herself puke. And Penny now is starting to lose it a bit, is talking to Noah, being like, I don't know if you're real. Maybe I'm losing my mind.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Like, maybe you're my imaginary friend. real uh maybe i'm losing my mind like maybe you're my imaginary friend because i mean they're also like in addition to being eaten just like in basically solitary confinement yeah yeah yeah awful steve then brings noah a dress and some makeup and says you can freshen up dinner's at seven so they are dating now apparently and Noah laughs and says I have no idea what time it is he's like I know it was a joke um very funny we love this and he gets also in this moment a text from his wife being like when are you going to be home for dinner so we see that he is like choosing Noah over his wife. And there's a little getting ready montage of Steve getting in his suit and Noah getting dressed. And while she's getting dressed, he brought her like a poofy pink dress.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And while after she's dressed, he brought her like a poofy pink dress and uh while after she's dressed she like practices smiling in the mirror she's like looking at herself trying to do like a genuine smile oh this gives you shivers down your spine uh he takes her upstairs for dinner again um her little handcuffs are are still on and he serves her first course of pate and she says liver and she says is this hope again and he says no this is Melissa I thought it was going to be Molly and well she doesn't know about Molly yeah she doesn't know about Molly but yeah and there's a part in here where she like
Starting point is 01:21:35 asks him or no first she says like she kind of laughs at the name Melissa she's like she tastes so decadent and her name is just like Melissa she's making jokes we're flirting he's got she knows how to play it yeah he's like so delighted that they can bond over this thing and share this moment together she asks him if he's ever eaten men he says i have but women just taste better sure and she asks if melissa ever got a candlelit dinner and he says or he like leads her to uh he unhandcuffs her and leads her to a or not unhand but releases
Starting point is 01:22:22 the cuffs from the chair leads her to there's a painting on the wall and he lifts it up and behind it are a bunch of cubbies and in each cubby is a photo and cell phone and like personal belongings of each woman that he has had and there are dozens wow no. And we see in this moment, we see Sammy. So it's not his wife. This is when we put that together. And we see Penny for the first time and Melissa. And he shows her Melissa and says, this is Melissa. And I'm like, no, she didn't get a candlelit dinner.
Starting point is 01:22:59 And she's looking around and says, where's my stuff? And he looks a little embarrassed to admit your stuff is with me like i keep your stuff with me because you're special okay thank you and as they're about to go sit back down she sees molly's cell phone in there because she has like a memorable phone case. And her eyes go wide, but she has to act cool and act like she's still flirting with this man. And they sit back down and the main course is breast meat. And he's like, it's it's it's nice it's uh lighter than you'd think it it might taste even familiar to you yep okay thank you yep thank you oh he's bad he's bad
Starting point is 01:23:57 bad bad bad bad man and she's uh getting pretty drunk or like at least pretending to get pretty drunk and is making more jokes. She's like, oh, you saved the breast for last. I was so stupid. Ha ha ha. And they're like having a nice old time. And then she is laughing and then she starts to cry and he like leans forward is like what. And she's like it's just it's like I'm having such a nice time. It's just also confusing like I feel awful because I don't feel awful.
Starting point is 01:24:38 And he. She's smart. He loves this. And he's like it's OK. it's just because you're different like i knew it from the moment i saw you you're different and he they kiss he kisses her and he leans down and he sees that he forgot to retie her handcuffs and he laughs he's like i forgot to handcuff you and she's like i know i didn't want to didn'tuff you. And she's like, I know. I didn't want to. Didn't want to tell. She's like, well, you know, whatever. It's fine. Like, you can do it now. And he like this moment of like her having known she had been not handcuffed, like makes him be like, oh, he trusts her after that.
Starting point is 01:25:16 She didn't want to run away. And she says, do you want to do you want to dance? He says, do you want to dance? And this is where they do their little dance that probably now changes the context of how you view that little YouTube clip. Not nearly as fun as I thought. It is a fun little dance, though. It's kind of like the ex-Mahina dance. Yeah, it is. And they start making their way towards the bedroom. They're kissing.
Starting point is 01:25:44 She goes to the bathroom, comes back out bedroom they're kissing she goes to the bathroom comes back out they're kissing more she's taking off his shirt she takes off his pants and she starts to go down on him and i see his face he is oh god oh god God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God. And she bites his dick. And he screams and looks down and her mouth is covered in blood. I don't know if she bit the dick clean off, but she bites enough that there is tons of blood. And as he looks down at her, she presses smears like toothpaste all in his eyes. And he's that's like what she got from the bathroom. all in his eyes and he's that's like what she got from the bathroom and he gets she gets his key off of him and just runs and takes off her handcuffs and handcuffs them around the door handles so like handcuffs the two doors closed uh closing him in there and just smart smart fucking runs down uh opens the basement and and goes down there
Starting point is 01:26:49 and gets molly finds molly and molly of course has had her breasts removed oh and they don't have time to talk about any of that she unlocks her she like throws her shoes to hers like get these on like we don't have time to talk like um like get ready she starts heading to penny's room we are like seeing uh steve furious and in so much pain and like banging on trying to break his way out of the room screaming things like you fucking bitch i'm gonna cut your heart out and i don't know where that line really got me because he like means it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and she gets penny out we see penny penny is missing a leg um and like bandaged up in various areas and noah and molly get on either side of penny so they're like carrying her up they're up. They have to go up like this lot,
Starting point is 01:27:46 this big staircase upstairs. It's like such a stressful scene. And we see Steve break out of the room. He like breaks the doors and gets out. And he's now in the main level looking for them. And it's kind of quiet for a bit. We don't know where they are. And then the dumb,
Starting point is 01:28:04 the dumb waiter dings. And so and then the dumb the dumb waiter dings and so he like heads to the dumb waiter like there someone's coming up in the dumb waiter opens it penny's in the dumb waiter he like goes for her but then molly is like just behind it like already upstairs and so molly attacks him and this is all in the kitchen now the dumb waiter goes into the kitchen and so there are just butcher blocks of knives and meat pulverizers and all these things and so noah also runs out at this moment and all three of them just start attacking him noah grabs a knife he knocks it out of her hand they're just like pulling knives out of butcher blocks it's so stressful like there's so many weapons in this room and oh my god this fight is just uh so intense and
Starting point is 01:28:52 uh he like smashes a oh molly hits him with the meat tenderizer right in the face gets him real fucking good but he gets up quick and like grabs a glass bowl and smashes that over molly's head and then penny like knocks him down then he like kicks penny and then he's like strangling noah and then penny grabs one of the knives that has fallen and stabs it into his leg he gets back he like goes back to her pulls the knife out of his leg and like starts holding it to penny's throat we think penny's a goner but then noah bites him and they're like now up on the kitchen island like everyone wrestling and oh my god and molly fucking kicks him in the face so hard knocks him out oh hell yeah shit hell yeah We see also at this moment, Paul driving up, pulling up to the house
Starting point is 01:29:47 has like arrived at where the... Oh my God. Paul, you have no idea what you're coming up against. And... Paul, you didn't think it was going to be this.
Starting point is 01:29:57 And the three women run out of the house while Steve is unconscious, but Steve quickly regains consciousness, grabs a gun and like follows them out his face is fucked up his like eyes are like swelling shut and he's been stabbed and bitten and he's screaming no i like you fucking bitch did he put clothes back on or
Starting point is 01:30:20 is he also he's like he he's wearing his shirt still or his shirt is on and it's like loose enough that it's covering his like dick area so we can mangle yes so we don't get a good look at what's going on right what's going on there but he's i don't i'm pretty sure he's not wearing pants so he's out there chasing them they run just like into the woods because they don't know where the car keys are and uh they i guess paul must pull up like just after this moment because he doesn't see them and they just run into the woods and are like hiding behind trees while steve just starts like shooting into the woods and paul hears gunshots and is like fuck this i'm out and he's like i've seen this movie i've seen this movie like i don't want to be a part of this and he just fucking leaves and i was
Starting point is 01:31:12 like okay it is a movie about female friendship female friendship he's not gonna save him nope not gonna be saved by the bartender oh my god so steve's following them and we see his wife arrive because clearly he's like didn't come home for dinner and she's trying to figure out what the fuck's going on. She walks into the house and sees blood and knives all over the floor and two glasses of wine at the table. The most important of all. I don't care that you're keeping women prisoner and selling their meat you can't
Starting point is 01:31:46 have dinner with them yeah she's looking all pissed we see out in the woods steve finds noah behind a tree and molly yells from behind another tree like over your asshole and she tackles him and then again all three of them like come down on him and are kicking him like basically beating him to death they're kicking him and punching him biting him again this is like i think intercut with like the men eating meat oh and so they're like now biting him and then they like back up he's like clearly not recovering from this, but he's not dead yet. And they grab the gun from him and Noah stands over him. And he's like looking up at her like his face just absolutely demolished.
Starting point is 01:32:38 And she says, give me a smile. And he looks up at her and smiles with blood all in his teeth. And she shoots him in the face. Hell yeah. So he dead. Disgusting. He is dead. And so then they run back towards the house and are looking for the car keys.
Starting point is 01:32:59 And Noah's like, oh, I got to go back for my phone, which I don't know why she needs to do that. No, no, no. No, you don't phone, which I don't know why she needs to do that. No, no, no. No, you don't. No, you don't. That's so funny. That's so funny to go back barefoot in this situation. Send the police there later. Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I mean, she thinks the threat is gone, to be fair. Oh, God. But so she goes out and is back in the woods. but so she goes out and is back in the woods and Ann or Anna, whatever her name is, the wife like runs up, like has like rumpled her shirt and her hair and is like crying and is like, is it over?
Starting point is 01:33:33 Is it over? Like, can, are we free? Like, thank you. Like, what did,
Starting point is 01:33:37 what did you find him? Did you kill? Oh, and she sees like, he's dead. And she's like, Oh my God, you did it. Like,
Starting point is 01:33:40 thank you so much. And like goes into hug Noah and starts strangling her. And no, like can you so much and like goes in to hug noah and starts strangling her and noah like can't she's like trying to call out and molly hears something happen like a muffled scream and is like what the fuck and i guess noah has gotten the car keys sorry at this point she has the car keys and reaches into her uh dress pocket and gets those fucking car keys sorry at this point she has the car keys and reaches into her uh dress pocket and gets those fucking car keys in between the knuckles and stabs anna a bunch of times in the neck and it doesn't kill her uh but then she is noah screams like in this part both of them are screaming i think and so now molly really hears it and can follow it anna gets like another a second wind still with like her neck bleeding like starts
Starting point is 01:34:31 strangling noah again and molly hits anna with a shovel and like bashes her head in completely with the shovel kills an Anna and as she's like doing that she screams women like you are the problem which I felt like I don't know if we needed that line yeah it's a little too on the nose yeah we get it um but then
Starting point is 01:34:57 Molly and Noah collapse like on leaning against a tree and uh Noah's like who the fuck is that who is that and molly's like oh that's that's his wife and noah's like he had a wife he has a wife and molly's like had a wife and they have a good laugh he's dead now ha ha those two sons going to be just fine. They're going to be just fine. And Noah says, I fucking love you, Molly. And she says, I love you more. And the camera pans down to her phone laying in the grass and she gets a text from Chad that says, you up? Then that's the end of the movie wow okay um sammy as someone who has to go on dates i'm sure
Starting point is 01:35:51 this made you feel even more excited to go on more dates texting jenna afterwards like well this is gonna make dating fun even worse even worse wow yeah you gotta stay vigilant you gotta stay vigilant is the takeaway horrific don't go on a weekend trip with someone you've just met that you don't really know anything about
Starting point is 01:36:18 and do not do it when if they haven't met your friends do not do it if you haven't done a little bit of digging you gotta save a weekend trip for a while into the relationship. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So, Henley, will you be naming your daughter Noah?
Starting point is 01:36:34 That's the thing. It's like, I really like that name. But now, but this movie will get lost. Lost in the sands of time. I think by the time your hypothetical next child is born, people won't be thinking about Fresh. It'd be so funny. People were like, oh, from Fresh? Did you name her after Fresh?
Starting point is 01:36:52 Two years ago? Three years ago? How many? A year ago? Whenever you have your child? No rush, Henley. Whatever works for you. Is it spelled like Noah, the boy's name, Noah? Like Noah's Ark? No, it's N-O-A. Noah. That's interesting. Noah. There's no? No, it's N-O-A. Noah. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Noah. There's no part of me that wants to see this movie. Zero part of me that's curious. Oh my God, no. Same thing. You're like, yeah, anybody could fucking know. I think it's just because you actually don't see that much of the like, I guess you kind of do. I feel like the end.
Starting point is 01:37:22 The squelching. I don't like the squelching. I don't want a super cut of men eating women's bodies either. Yeah. Yeah. Fair. But yeah, that fight scene at the end also seems like really intense. But it like feels almost action movie-y.
Starting point is 01:37:36 It's like the kind of thing that I really love. I like realize there's this part of horror that I love, which is a group of women teaming up to kill a man that has hurt them it happens in Death Proof as well and it's like I want to watch every movie that this happens in so listeners if there's a movie I know it's like spoilery to say but like
Starting point is 01:37:56 I want to see every movie with a version of this scene of just like yeah women teaming up to destroy a bad man it is cool but yeah that last scene is really stressful but it's really good i mean i kind of will probably after this just watch that scene again because i feel like it's it's good i feel terrible i hate, I really hated that a lot. I didn't like it. Yeah, I guess I should have known that you wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I don't know why I deluded myself for a moment. Well, because I think the ending made you so amped. And I agree with that. That you're left, because you watched the movie, so you're left with the ending, which was like, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:45 But not having seen it, I'm left with all the rest. But this is kind of one that I feel almost like the retelling would be a little scary. Makes it worse. Because you don't see... Because it's just the idea of it.
Starting point is 01:38:59 You don't see a ton of the... Like in the surgery scene, you don't really see it. You do see him cutting up that leg i guess you do see some stuff but i think you probably would imagine it grosser than it actually is that makes sense um um also just a thought i had when at the end when they're like getting penny out and this is fucking dark as hell but he is really stupid to not take the legs off of all of his victims first. That's true.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah. Like, sorry, if that, if, like, you're keeping people captive, take their ability to walk out first. Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. Hot tip for serial killers out there. No! No! But then I guess it's harder to take care of them. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:39:43 That makes sense. Yeah, those are big ones. You really have to take care. And also, like, keeping them alive is harder. Well, Penny has one leg, and the jail cells do have, like, handrails. And so I feel like... He's definitely preparing for that to happen at some point. Yeah. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:40:02 You know, I just don't want to work... I don't want to workshop this problem, you know? I also, like, I really am really sad. Like hate it. You know, I just don't want to work. I don't want to workshop this problem. You know? I also, like, I really am really sad. Like, it really... Look, they survived, and they're gonna be fine. And both Molly and... But her butt. Molly and
Starting point is 01:40:17 Noah can get, like, they, you know, you can get plastic surgery. You can get breast back. You can get a butt back even but that really makes me sad i was really having a hard time thinking about losing your butt your butt being gone i would be it would be i don't know what maybe not everybody has such an attachment to their butt nobody would be glad if their butt was gone but like for something about that i'm just like oh my god like i don't
Starting point is 01:40:46 know it's just like not what i would expect i was expecting like he'll take a chunk of thigh he'll take like he took her butt i don't know that's like so weird and sad yeah no i don't like it i like a body without a butt like it like it would be really hard and it would hurt and it would be really, I really hate it. I really hate it. Incredibly painful. Incredibly painful. I just, that's what it is. I don't like dwelling on this thought.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Well, can we let's dwell on it? Like, I don't want to like do this. No, I know what you mean. Okay, we won't do this. We're done. We're done. I don't want to do this The end
Starting point is 01:41:25 Roll credits No accents from this one Well Daisy Edgar Jones' American accent So let's do that one Do that one Do her American accent Sammy From all of us here Too scary to watch it's pretty similar to mine
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