Too Scary; Didn't Watch - GREMLINS

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

Dear Santa, all we want for Christmas is one Gizmo please!! Join us as we recap the classic Christmas horror, GREMLINS!!TrailerMovie stats @ 13:39Recap begins @ 28:13Follow the show: @TSDWpod...cast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we got a fun one this week, a festive one. A festive one.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Holiday season. Holiday spooks. I can't wait. I can't wait to find out about this movie. I can't wait to tell you about it, but before I do, did anything scary happen to us this week? I have a plague upon my house. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Oh no. A bug plague? A bug plague. So there have been so many flies in my house. In the winter? In the winter. And they're really sluggish. They're very slow moving. Oh, because they're so cold.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You'd think they'd have to move faster. They're frozen so slow. They're frozen so slow. So Tim has decided that they've come here to die, which I think is absolutely accurate because they are so easy to kill. The easiest flies to kill ever. But there are so many of them. It's disgusting. They congregate in our windows and I go into a room and I can hear one buzzing and I'm like, I need to find it.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I hate when you can hear them. Oh, and when'm like, fuck, I need to find it. I hate when you can hear them. It's like, ew. And when you like, swat at it and you hit it because they're like not fast enough to dodge you, but then you didn't actually mean to touch it with your bare hand. Oh, God. I don't actually ever use my
Starting point is 00:01:58 bare hands because I know better now. Sometimes I'll just swat like instinctually like I'm waving it away and you always assume that that just kind of you know gives it it's funny to imagine them flying so sluggishly that they get hit they're just like I feel like it happens it does happen sometimes um
Starting point is 00:02:14 so Silas calls them spiders because he doesn't know any better so he now goes spider spider in my house mama kill it mama kill it. Mama, kill it. So he's learned all of those sentences.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That's really great. Spider in my house. Mama, kill it. Mama, kill it. Yeah, he says that a lot now. All the basics. All the basics. Everything you need to know in the English language in those sentences.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And we figured out why it's happening. Oh, no. So it's actually we live right next to this place, which does really amazing work. They do a lot of food donations and clothing donations. And it's a very robust charity, which I am very excited to get to live next to. But they've also recently been throwing out a lot of meat. next to but they've also recently been throwing out a lot of meat i guess people have been like there have been a couple restaurants that have like donated like old meat or something to them so they keep throwing it in our garbage long story short and so it's attracted all of these
Starting point is 00:03:17 fucking flies now to our house and we can't really we don't really know what to do about it because it's like, we can't, we don't want to, it's not this organization's fault, but also like, who's donating this old meat? How do you get to the root of this problem? Please stop. Please stop doing that. Don't do that anymore. Um, it means that my son is constantly saying, kill it, mommy. And I don't want that to happen anymore. Anyway, so it's been really gross. And I hope that basically the church where we live, they know that this is happening. And they're going to like try to sort of suss it out.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Deal with it. Because it's happening to everyone who lives here. It's like a whole campus wide issue of flies everywhere. It's so gross. We need some better meat disposal techniques. Yeah, something. Yeah, it's like, don't donate that. Please donate anything else. Some sort of airtight
Starting point is 00:04:15 meat locker that would keep a bear out. And if it can keep a bear out, it can keep a fly out. So gross. As long as it doesn't have small holes in it. I was going to say, as long as it's not size-based. and if it can keep a bear out it can keep a fly out so gross as long as it doesn't have small holes in it I was going to say as long as it's not size based yeah
Starting point is 00:04:30 that's really gross Henley I know and I need to tell you sorry it's a true plague but what are you guys doing? how's your week? I suppose the scary thing is just a thing that is continually happening this time of year, which is that, you know, it's winter. It's honestly it has not been that cold in Los Angeles, but it's cold overnight.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And the apartment gets chilly. And I have approached the time of year where I am like tied to a heat source at all times. Yes. like tied to a heat source at all times. Yes. I am currently sitting on a heating pad with a space heater at my feet. And I don't even think it's that cold outside. In LA, in LA, it gets fucking cold in your house though.
Starting point is 00:05:17 It gets so cold in your house. The difference between I feel like West Coast cold is that our houses are not built for it. And so it's not insulated at at all it's not insulated at all so whatever temperature it is outside it's that temperature inside and so when it's 60 or like 58 it's like yeah that's not that cold but i don't want my house to be 58 yeah yeah it's like i'm in a little cave um and i just become like a true lizard where I'm like, I need I need like heat on me at all times. And then it makes it so I like can't walk away like I can't get up off my heating pad. I cannot separate myself from the wall heater.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You need a portable heating pad. That's a great idea. Yeah. I need a little heat. Heat. I don't I don't know. I don't know. But it's... I don't... Also, I don't love it. I would love the freedom to move about my home. And I'm... Look, I wear sweatpants. I wear big socks.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I've got... Boy, do I have a sweatpant recommendation for you. I know you do. Some fur lined. What you need are my 10-pound sweatpants. They have to just sit on the bed all year. What is the brand? What is are my 10 pound sweatpants. They have to just sit on the bed all year. What is the brand of those sweatpants? I don't know. They're actually Amazon. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Sorry. Sorry. But she loves them. The brand name's not what matters. Let her have what she loves. They're warm. And I'm like sometimes too hot, but I can't not have the heat on me. Do you know what I mean? Currently, I'm sort of like, I don't need not have the heat on me do you know what I mean like currently I'm sort of like I don't need to have these heaters on me but if I turn them off I'd suddenly be freezing because your body has adjusted it's adjusted fully to the heat and it
Starting point is 00:06:55 doesn't want to separate I mean once I did basically grill my butt cheek on our wall heater because I backed up against it And got little grill marks in my butt That lasted like a year This is the severity of the problem And you know It's happening, we're back So I guess
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's just what's up with me I'm shriveled up like a little raisin Because my heat's on too high And you have grill marks on your butt Because your heat's on too high Yeah well have grill marks on your butt because your heat's on too high. Yeah. Well, not anymore, but they lasted a really long time. You got, you branded yourself. I branded myself. I did. Do you guys use space heaters in your bathroom? I used to in my old place and that was nice. That's a constant for me year round, no matter what. I'm space eating in the bathroom oh i just
Starting point is 00:07:46 got this core childhood memory of when i would go and uh spend the night at my grandma's house and take a bath or shower she would throw towels in the laundry in the in the dryer so that they were so nice and warm when i got out so sweet sweet. I love that. Wait, that's like the best grandma move ever. Very luxurious and so cozy and lovely. Wow. That's a love is. Have you guys heard of love is? Is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:08:18 Love is? Love is putting a towel in the dryer to warm it up. Yeah. 100%. Okay. What's scary happened to me? Uh, something kind of scary that's happening,
Starting point is 00:08:31 I guess, is that I am listening to Britney Spears' audio book and it's, as you could probably guess, quite devastating. Yeah. And we've heard a lot of her story and i feel like it's just different hearing it from her perspective and so like i feel like i kind of i would have thought like oh i already know everything that happened to her and all the horrible things and uh i just think it's really incredible that she got to write this book and tell her side
Starting point is 00:09:12 of the story. And there are things in it that are just making her life make more sense to me and her choices and why she did the things that she did and what was going through her mind at that time. And there's just a lot of scary stuff in there. Man, being Britney Spears sounds really hard. Her life has been so incredibly difficult. I think it's probably still very difficult. And the book is, I'm, you know, as much as I can enjoy it, I am enjoying it. It's just enlightening to hear her side of things and just what a fucking powerhouse she is and how, it's just like hard to wrap your head around like what being Britney Spears is like.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh, yeah. is like oh yeah i so silent jenna sent it to me in the mail because she's talking about a love is and so i've been reading it but i had to stop actually several weeks ago because i got to the point there's one part where she's a rehab and she's like at her lowest that she's been and her dad comes and he the first thing he says is like, you're a disgrace. You're a disgrace to the family. And I was like, close the book and put it down and was like, I'll revisit this at another time. I'm not ready. Not immediately postpartum.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I'm not strong enough right now. I'm too weak. I'm too the pores. I'm like too porous. I'm feeling feeling too many feelings and I'm feeling all the pores, I'm like too porous. I'm feeling, feeling too many feelings and I'm feeling all of these feelings. I, I loved it though. It's such a, it's amazing how early that is on the book. Like how quickly you get through the, um, oops, I did it again phase that I'm a slave for you phase. You're only like, you know, 20% through the book when you're there
Starting point is 00:11:06 in the story, which is kind of crazy to think about. There's like so much that happens after that. Oh, Sammy, where are you in it? I don't know because I'm listening to it and it doesn't have a full, it's just changes chapters. So the like scroll bar is only like how much I'm in in the chapter. I don't know how many chapters there are. I'm on chapter 34, I think. But it's read by Michelle Williams. Britney Spears does read part of the intro and forward. But she says it's like too hard for her to read the whole thing because it's really she says it's just too hard for her to relive some of these things. And so she didn't want to read the whole book.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I mean, the thing. OK, we talked about in the last episode, Sheldon Fuga. Sheldon Fuga, yeah. The thing that made me want to get on the Internet and be like, who the fuck is talking about this is Justin Timberlake. Fucking asshole. Justin Timberlake is the worst. The fucking worst kidding me? Justin Timberlake is the worst. The fucking worst? Are we all talking about this? Is he cancelled yet? What the hell's going on?
Starting point is 00:12:11 He's not cancelled yet. I don't think so. I know. I mean, it's a little too late. Too little, too late. I mean, he's still got a whole life left to live and I don't really think his behavior has probably changed much, so... Never know. Though know though ideally he would stop being a bad man that'd be the better outcome I would rather that happen so the book is yeah called the woman in me and I will say it's also
Starting point is 00:12:36 one of those books this is a small little percentage of books where when you realize why the title is that it's devastating i would say a little life is like that as well like when it gets to the part in the book where they say the title and you're like oh that's what she means by that i like was shattered damn so anyways it's yeah been scary but good reading that i recommend it i'm oh i just i love bernie spears and i wish her health and happiness and i am so angry on her behalf that she was in a conservatorship for so long and um it fucked her up And she's still fucked up And I just hope that she can heal in time Because she deserves it
Starting point is 00:13:31 She's been through so much And given us so much She's given us so much Truly But okay, today we are talking about Gremlins Came out in 1984. We are finally covering it. We forget to do it every year, but now we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And maybe next year we'll finally do Leprechaun. Maybe. Fingers crossed. Gremlins was directed by Joe Dante, written by Chris Columbus. The same Chris Columbus that directed... The very same. Sorcerer's Stone. The Very Same. He wrote Gremlins. Yeah, he wrote a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Didn't he do Home Alone? Yes, Home Alone. He did do Home Alone. Macaulay Culkin just got that well-deserved star on the Walk of Fame. Yes, he did. This is the first time I've ever thought about that he had no choice but to go by Chris.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah, I mean, yeah, you got to. Why did his parents do that to him? That's really fucked up. I mean, when he was born, they still thought he was a pretty cool guy. Pretty cool guy. I just tweet. I've seen it before, but it's been resurfacing where it goes, so what are you going to name him? And then it's like parents of Newt Gingrich, colon, Newt Gingrich.
Starting point is 00:14:51 That's funny. Newt Gingrich. Newt. Was his name actually Newt? Or was that a nickname? That's crazy I don't know but it is so funny to imagine some names Being given to babies You know that like there are some names
Starting point is 00:15:16 That sure I guess it's fine as an adult But being like this is my baby Child this is my baby Son Newt Newt Newt. Newt. Newt Gingrich. You know they called him Newt when he was little. Newt.
Starting point is 00:15:33 His name is Newton, which makes sense. But yeah, Newton Leroy Gingrich. Newton Leroy Gingrich. Newton Gingrich is really funny. Newton Gingrich. Your mouth gets like stuck saying it. Newton Gingrich. It's Newton Gingrich Your mouth gets like stuck saying it Newton Gingrich It's like you can't get it out
Starting point is 00:15:49 Tim was called Hugh For the first few hours of his life First few hours And then his mom The nurse asked what his name was And she said Hugh And the nurse went what And she went this is a mistake.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Just kidding. Did I say Hugh? He'd be a good Hugh. I think that name would work for him. He'd have to take your last name. He would have to become Hugh. Go Hugh Mungo Cox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Alternate history. Or his middle name could be Hugh Cox. Yeah. HughHuge Cox. Yeah. Hugh J. Cox. Huge Cox. Cox. Cox. Genius. Alternate
Starting point is 00:16:38 history. I love imagining that. Alternate history. Chris Columbus also wrote The Goonies. Oh! But, okay. Gremlins. Starring Zach Galligan, Phoebe Cates, Hoyt Axton, and Corey Feldman.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And it is streaming on HBO. Have either of you seen this movie? No. No. I have seen... It was on in the background at a Christmas party I went to once, so I've seen moments, but out of context. was like on in the background at a christmas party i went to once so i've like seen moments but like out of context um and i you know i know actually i was about to say i know what they look
Starting point is 00:17:12 like you have a background behind you of them and in my mind if i was to conjure them i thought they looked literally exactly like furbies like i basically was like picturing just a bunch of Furbies. So this is not quite. No, I mean there's different forms, I guess. Okay, so sometimes they look like Furbies. Yep. Okay. That's as much as I've got. This is one
Starting point is 00:17:38 that I saw as a child. I didn't see the movie, but I saw snippets of when I was really little and it really scared the shit out of me. Like, I remember feeling scared by gremlins. Like, I think I was probably like four or something. Because when did it come out? 1984.
Starting point is 00:17:53 1984. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When did we have the exact date? Yes, actually. That's part of my trivia because it came out on June 8th, 1984, which is my birthday. And Ghostbusters came out on the same day. Why did it? It's a Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I can't remember why there was a reason why it didn't come out closer to Christmas. That is really weird, though. I thought you were about to say when you were like, there's a reason. I was really waiting for you to say that came out on December 13th, 1984. Because that's the literal day that Joel was born. But that's not when this movie came out. So, you know, forget it. No.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's only rated PG. So it's obviously not scary. Right. Oh, is that before? When was PG-13 created? What movie created PG-13? We just talked about this. Oh, it came out before the PG-13 rating
Starting point is 00:18:49 was instituted. Oh, that's interesting. That must be why, yeah, so many children of the 80s watched so many fucked up movies. So I actually have trivia about that as well. It was this movie that prompted the PG-13 rating because
Starting point is 00:19:07 it looks like it would totally be for children it was this and indiana jones and the temple of doom that both of those were you know not are worthy but also not meant for little kids and so yeah the pg-13 rating came to be soon after this movie that's very interesting okay so this i mean because this is a horror movie even though it's like a mild milder one yeah it's they definitely took steps to make it less scary i think there was at one point a more full horror version of the script and the studio wanted it to be a little more family friendly and so it's it's not too scary i think most people could handle it they are a little freaky looking but they're also very funny little troublemakers their vibe is funny and they just go like they're
Starting point is 00:20:02 kind of like minions oh that's fun. They're little naughty minions. Yeah, they're naughty little minions with no, they don't have they say like a few words but mostly just make funny little noises and get into trouble and they are trying to I mean, they're violent. They do kill people
Starting point is 00:20:20 but I guess you're going to tell us. Yeah, but I think the animatronics are really cool. So if you're not too scared, I think it's worth a watch. This was my first time watching it as well. Or I had not seen it either. And so, yeah, it's such a classic. And I'm happy to have seen it now.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And I've heard that Gremlins 2 is really unhinged. Ooh, I didn't know there was a Gremlins 2. I'm excited to continue with the franchise. Gremlins has an 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, 70% on Metacritic, 7.3 on IMDb. The budget was $11 million and it made $212.9 million. Damn. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It used the same set as Back to the Future. It's kind of fun. Oh, that is fun. And like I said, released the same day as Ghostbusters. I was just liking getting the feel of the time. Yeah, like where are we at? Mid-80s.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Oh, so good. Mm-hmm. This was the first appearance of the Amblin logo, Steven Spielberg's production company logo. Whoa. As he produced this film. And there was an earlier attempt to have monkeys play the gremlins, but it was abandoned because the test monkey panicked when made to wear a gremlin head. Thank God that test monkey panicked. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Thank God it wasn't better behaved. They weren't just going to do it as like monkeys. They were going to put a monkey in a gremlin suit. Yeah, monkey actors. Holy shit! That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Of course the monkey spooked. Yeah, Test Monkey
Starting point is 00:22:11 was right. Test Monkey was right. Test Monkey saved all the other monkeys. The 80s were wild. There was no guidelines, no boundaries. Yeah. No animal rights activists no boundaries. Yeah. No animal rights activists on set.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Nope. No, certainly not. Not for a while longer until that happened. So because they couldn't use the monkeys, all of the gremlins were animatronics and they cost between $30,000 and $40,000 each. Holy shit. animatronics and they cost between 30 and 40,000 each. But they look really good. This was pre-CGI and so everything is practical and it's a pretty significant amount of gremlins. And there's just something very charming about that. I think the way that Chucky is fun to watch. It's like, it's just, I just love it. I love seeing the creature design. They're just great.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And you are correct and won't be surprised here that Gizmo, the nice gremlin in this, I guess he's not a gremlin. I think gremlin is when they become bad. So Gizmo is a, they're called Mogwai. And Gizmo was the inspiration for Furbies. Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:38 They do look almost exactly like Furbies in their original Mogwai form, which is what Gizmo is. He's like, I also like Baby Yoda, pre-Baby Yoda. He's like so cute. Oh, well now I got to watch him. You know how I feel about Baby Yoda, pre-Baby Yoda. He's like so cute. Oh, well, now I got to watch him. You know how I feel about Baby Yoda. I know. I mean, he's adorable. He's adorable.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Mogwai is really cute, too. Like, I like that that's what they are. It does mean devil. It does translate to devil in Cantonese. That's interesting. Still sounds cute. There's also, I feel like, a band called Mogwai. I remember from high school, people being into Mogwai.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Nice. Not me, though. I hate music. Always have, always will. And okay, so that's all the trivia I got. Should we take a peek at the trailer? You can see some of these mogwai and gremlins i gotta see him get a visual let's do it billy pelser has a nice home billy is that you yeah mom it's me a nice job
Starting point is 00:24:38 a nice girl if you're not doing anything this Thursday night, maybe you'd like to go out on a date with me? I'd love to. And loving parents who are about to give him You're gonna like this. No, no, no, don't shake it. We're gonna have to open it now. It won't wait till Christmas. the most unusual gift he ever got. What is it?
Starting point is 00:25:01 It's your new pet. Come on, Barney, be a good dog. My dad gave it to me. But there are a few things to keep in mind. If you expose it to the light, you may hurt it. If you get it wet, it will multiply. All that from water? They got wet?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah, plain water. And most important, no matter how much they beg, never, never let them eat after midnight. Because when they do, they change. They become clever, mischievous, and dangerous. I don't know what that is. Little monsters.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Right. Hundreds of them. Well, I don't know, maybe thousands. They've been here too. Billy, what are these things? Where did they come from? Look, I know it sounds crazy, I know. But in a few hours, you're going to have a major disaster on your hands. Grandmothers, directed by Joe Dante.
Starting point is 00:26:16 They'll be expecting you. I am very on board. Okay, yeah, no look. We didn't get a good look at them But you could hear at least Yum yum There's a little hand Being like Yum
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm excited What a funny Premise The series of things The rules about them that is so funny. It's really weird and random and yeah, who, I mean, Chris Columbus. Good job, Chris.
Starting point is 00:26:52 What was going on when he was writing this? It's like when you almost fall asleep and things kind of stop making sense. Yeah, they get wet, they multiply. That was when he wrote it. It was just like in that little moment before you kind of stop making sense. Yeah, they get wet, they multiply. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 That was when you wrote it. It was just like in that little moment before you fall asleep or your mind is just running wild. They're wet, they're multiplying. Don't get them wet. They get mean. They get so mean. First of all, the main character reminded me of Marcelo Hernandez.
Starting point is 00:27:23 If you guys have been watching this new season of SNL? He's a new character on our new cast member on SNL. He's a cutie, though, this guy. And also, oh my gosh, the 80s and their goddamn houses and living rooms. I know. It was like Steven Spielberg presents Gremlins and then it cuts to that house set. And I'm like, oh, this feels like Steven Spielberg. It does.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It feels that living room. A little like sunken living room. There's like references to E.T. also. Like it definitely, you feel his influence. It's a great holiday watch. I think I'll watch it. I'm excited to watch number two. I'm going to be watching that as well.
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Starting point is 00:32:44 off your first order. Don't forget, that's hellobello.com slash TooScary to start bundling with 30% off your first order. Don't forget, that's HelloBello.com slash TooScary. Okay, so we begin in Chinatown. There is a man looking for a gift for his son. His name is Randall, and he pops into this. This is my baby Randall. Randall G he pops into this. This is my baby Randall. Randall Gingrich. And he pops into this
Starting point is 00:33:12 he's being led by a little boy actually to a store that's off the main path that has more unique gifts and trinkets and rare types of things and so he's intrigued and he follows him down this kind of dark alleyway to this store and there's the little boy's grandpa is working working there
Starting point is 00:33:36 and uh i feel like it's kind of like the racist thing that they do in horror or they did in horror movies at this time where it's just like this character's asian so they have a little haunted magic shop with uh-huh you can get some freaky thing from outer space here yeah so he's looking around and i think he's trying to Randall is trying to sell the guy an invention that he made. And I can't remember now if that was the initial reason he came into the store. He's like trying to find places that will sell the appliances he is inventing. And so he first pulls out this appliance to show him and say, this is going to be the big new thing. So Randall is showing this shop owner the invention that he has made. It's probably the worst invention I've ever seen in my life. It's essentially a Swiss army knife, but for bathroom things like toothbrush, toothpaste, floss.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And he says it's going to make traveling a breeze. You won't need to find each little thing and pack it in a bag. You have it all right here, but it's really big. And it's just not that big of a deal to put your stuff in a bag. Nobody needs this. Love you just absolutely roasting him. This is kind of just absolutely roasting him. And this is kind of his thing, though. He's like got shark tank judge right here.
Starting point is 00:35:11 He hasn't invented a hit yet. Unlike me, who thought of an earthquake safe bed. And unfortunately, somebody else did invent it as well. But I also invented it. You did think of it. Without knowing. Independently, you invented it. I believe you and I was there
Starting point is 00:35:27 and I believe you. I want a bed that if there's an earthquake will protect me and I kind of want to post the video for our listeners of that. That's been invented because it looks so scary. It's just like a coffin that sucks
Starting point is 00:35:44 you in and it's made out of metal because it has to be able to withstand any force. And so it just locks you into this little metal coffin with some food and water in there. A lot of ways for that to go wrong, I think. A lot of ways for it to go wrong. But regardless, I think we should keep working on refining that because I do want that. I don't want this toothbrush thing. And neither does the shop owner. He's very much looking at him like, no thanks.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And maybe this is when Randall starts looking around for while I'm in here. Let me see if there's a gift for my son. And he sees a cute little Furby-like creature in a box at the side of the store and immediately asks, oh, this will be perfect. How much for this? Shop owner says, oh, that's the Mogwai. Mogwai's not for sale. And the little boy, the grandson is saying, Grandpa, Grandpa, I think they're on hard financial times. And he's urging him, you should sell it. We need the money. And Grandpa is saying, no, it's not safe.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Mogwai are a lot of responsibility. It's not safe to sell him. That's not for sale. No questions asked. So Randall leaves and then the grandson chases him with he has snuck out the box with the mogwai inside and uh he says kids are so stupid kids are so dumb and he gives it to him they He pays him for it. And the little boy tells Randall, there's three rules. They hate bright light.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Don't put them in bright light. Don't get him wet. And the most important one is don't feed him after midnight. So Randall leaves with his new mogwai for his son We now cut to meeting Billy, our main character This is Randall's son and he's having a tough day His car is broken down so he has to walk to work in the snow He's got his dog with him
Starting point is 00:38:01 He's all flustered as he arrives to his job in the bank. He seems like he's in high school or perhaps just out of high school. And he rushes into his desk at the bank. He's like a teller. And he has his dark. He has his dark. He has his dark... Dark? He has his dark. He has his dog with him. And one of the customers comes up and immediately starts screaming at him.
Starting point is 00:38:34 This is Mrs. Deagle. And she hates his dog. She says he barked at him and he shouldn't have a dog in here. This isn't a pet store. Yeah, yeah. Although I do agree that maybe you shouldn't bring your dog to the bank i do agree i did write down in my notes bringing your dog to work at a bank is crazy like it's one thing if you're in a little uh open floor plan startup where everybody agrees that we bring our dogs here and we have little dog playdates together. But at a bank, it's not a good place for a dog. No. So Mrs. Deagle is right. But
Starting point is 00:39:13 she is being excessively bitchy about it. This is the town bitch. This is for sure the town bitch. She's saying really crazy things like if I catch him doing that again, I can't remember if he did something else, like tried to, if he snapped at her or something. And she's like, I'm going to skin him alive. And I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:39:32 she's saying really brutal things. I'm going to skin him alive. Imagine if I said that ever sincerely about anyone, you guys would be like, she's a dial back the meds we are looking at her like whoa lady this isn't normal this is not a normal thing to say a normal reaction to have and i think his boss at this point is like well yeah bringing your dog to work is you know not a great idea uh we see he has a co-worker named kate who's very cute around his same age. She's kind of giving him eyes. He seems a little oblivious to it, but seems like she's trying to flirt with him. His mom asks him if she can help with starting dinner. And all of Randall's inventions are all around the kitchen that are extremely unhelpful.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It's just like make everything take longer. So Billy walks over to some sort of egg cracking machine and you plop an egg in it and a little chicken head comes down and pecks at it. But then it kind of explodes the whole thing. So that eggshell gets all in the bowl. Also, it's like much more efficient to just crack it by hand. Yeah. And it was reminding me of Harry Styles and Don't Worry Darling, the way that this cooking was going it just looks like you've never been in a kitchen before in your life Randall comes home and he gifts Billy the mogwai and
Starting point is 00:41:12 Billy is immediately loves this little guy names him Gizmo he's super cute little baby Yoda Furby adorable no one seems to be like, what the fuck is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. This is clearly an alien species that nobody has ever seen before. I mean, potentially, I guess, of this earth. But this is so funny because this is already defying my expectations of this movie which is I had always assumed for no reason that the gremlins were like cabbage patch kids or like something that was like I had assumed it was like a toy phenomenon that was happening and everyone was getting them and they had just like hopped on the phenomenon and everyone had bought the thing oh yeah is that like chucky that's more like chucky yeah that's probably why
Starting point is 00:42:11 i think that i'm looking at gizmo he's really cute he's very cute yeah so he's just like very quickly accepted as his new pet nobody's asking any questions. Billy is just having time bonding with Gizmo. He's taking him to his room. They're playing piano together. Billy's friend comes over. That's Corey Feldman, Pete.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And he's clearly way younger than Billy, which is funny. And I think, or I read that it's because Corey Feldman got cast first. And I think Corey Feldman already was a little bit famous from this. I think this was after Goonies. And so they were like, well, we got to keep Corey, but we like Billy. And so they just made them friends that are.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That's really funny. Like 18 and 13 or something like that. Normal. Normal. It actually didn't feel too weird, but it's kind of funny. But so Pete is meeting Gizmo and everyone's just delighted. And nobody's confused. Nobody's confused.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Nobody is scared. No questions. We've told him the rules You know, the three Major rules We're not asking why Really Because I'm thinking if I'm a teenager I'm going to be like
Starting point is 00:43:36 Well, I'm going to see what happens Yeah So Pete and Billy Are up in Billy's room Playing with Gizmo when Pete accidentally knocks over a cup of water and it gets on Gizmo's back. Gizmo starts convulsing, basically, and shaking. And something, his back starts kind of smoking and little tufts of his hair jump out like little essentially fur balls are popping off him. Wow. There's five that come off and they very quickly develop into additional mogwais that look like gizmo but behave a little naughtier they like came into
Starting point is 00:44:26 this earth to cause problems they're immediately like getting into shit oh is it are the ones that multiply like like the bad versions um they definitely seem naughtier though not fully sinister at this point okay they are just interesting troublemakers and uh making a mess in his room and seem to be enjoying that and gizmo seems to be stressed out by it he's watching all this like oh no oh no like he's like their dad their concerned father father yeah uh there's a scene where billy sees kate and oh she's working at a bar i she's working like multiple jobs in this movie okay you work too hard she's really hustling and he sees that she's seeming very stressed and i think he he walks her home after work from the bar. They like get a drink there.
Starting point is 00:45:28 So I guess maybe he's 21. He does not look 21. When did they change the drinking age? Oh, I don't know. But as he's walking her back to her house, he's saying, you know, like, are you okay? You seem stressed. And she's like, yeah, I just kind of hate this time of year in general. Sorry, they changed the drinking age in 1984. Oh, there it is. time of year in general, he says, I thought everybody was happy during the holidays, which is a very
Starting point is 00:46:05 funny thing for Billy to think. A little optimist. Nothing could be bad for anybody because it's not bad for me. And Kate says, yeah, you know, I just don't like it. While some people, some people
Starting point is 00:46:22 get really sad. While some people are opening presents, other people are opening their wrists. Whoa. Really shocked me. It gets really dark. And Billy is a sunshiny type guy. And he seems very concerned about this as well. So Kate's hiding some darkness in here.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And I mean, I don't think she's really hiding it. That's true. But we're a little curious of what's... There's more to be unpacked. Yeah, what's going on with Kate? Meanwhile, back at the house, the new Mogwai are still getting into
Starting point is 00:46:59 trouble and they put them all in a box and are trying to keep them managed as best as they can but you know they're just little little little freaky guys and so he goes to bed that night and wakes up to his dog strung up outside in strings of christmas, alive, but just hung up, like wrapped in lights. Someone obviously did this to him. He couldn't have done it to himself.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And Billy, of course, immediately thinks, Mrs. Deagle, we're kind of pretty sure that this was the mogwai because they've been giggling and whispering and seem like they're up to no good. So then the next day, I think he goes and yells at Mrs. Deagle something like, you stay away from my dog.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And she, you know, is like, if he comes near me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna skin him. I'm gonna skin him. Something very disturbing like that. And so the next day, Billy takes one of the new Mogwai to his science teacher. So he is in high school. Maybe it's a, maybe it's an old science teacher. He's never in class so but he
Starting point is 00:48:27 goes to the high school science teacher and brings one of these and is essentially saying i don't know what happened or what this is we have there was these rules to not get them wet one got wet and it multiplied in this very strange way the science teacher is very intrigued by this but obviously has no answers but he keeps one of the mogwai to run some tests on maybe find some answers or maybe things will go really wrong we don't know yeah billy goes home that night with the rest of the mogwai still there. This also just doesn't feel like good pet ownership, if that's what they are. Yeah, no, I don't think that it is.
Starting point is 00:49:12 He goes home and it's nighttime. He's about to go to bed, but the little mogwai are begging for food. They're jumping up and down so hungry. And he's like, you guys are so hungry. You just ate. And he looks at the clock and it's 11.40 and he's like, fine. I'll get you some more food.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Goes downstairs, gets some chicken drumsticks, brings them back up. They go to absolute town on him. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love the chicken. And he goes to bed, wakes up. The Mogwai are gone.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And there are four look like alien pods in the room now. Like they're transforming inside of them and he says this what like nothing was weird was supposed to happen I didn't feed them after midnight he looks at his clock his bedside clock and it has been unplugged
Starting point is 00:50:18 so the little mogwai unplugged it at 1140 to trick him those little tricky motherfuckers. Oh my gosh. We see also that the one at the science teacher's it's not at his house, it's at the school
Starting point is 00:50:36 I guess, but it also, he left a sandwich a little too close to the cage and he was also able to eat after midnight and so they are all changing transforming into gremlins and it does
Starting point is 00:50:52 that is that a permanent state yes as far as this movie did gizmo become one too no because gizmo's not naughty gizmo didn't eat gizmo didn't eat and didn't he's not naughty and he would never do something like that gizmo's not naughty. Great Gizmo didn't eat. Gizmo didn't eat and he's not naughty and he would never do something like that. Gizmo's good.
Starting point is 00:51:09 He's just, he'll remain like the good little creature who's appalled at everyone else's behavior. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. The science teacher comes back to the room to find the cage has been burst out of and he's hearing things around the classroom. This is one of the scarier scenes. It's dark in there and we know something bad is on the loose probably. And we're hearing little scuttling sounds and he can't see where it's coming from and he's walking around and eventually the gremlin there attacks him and kills him and like whoa he pulls him he pulls him under oh so the so the teacher is trying to, he figures out that it got out of the cage, obviously, and he's trying to lure it back with food.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And so he has something in his hand and he locates the creature to underneath this desk and he just reaches his hand under with the food. He's like, come out here, little guy, little guy. And we just see him being pulled under the desk and being killed. His body just shakes until he dies. So I don't know that you fully see what happens, but it's not good. Use your imagination. Also really strong little guys. Yeah, they're deceptively. They may be small.
Starting point is 00:52:41 They do grow a little bigger, I guess I should say, that Gizmo is like the size of a bowling ball. About the size of a Furby, I guess, is a good reference point. But then when they become gremlins, they're maybe like two feet tall now. Two to three feet. They're bigger. They're still smaller than people, but they're bigger they're still smaller than people but they're bigger and apparently stronger yeah back at billy's house those ones are hatching now as well and they're just wreaking havoc they attack his mom in the kitchen a very violent
Starting point is 00:53:22 attack she's baking and so she has a a knife and she's trying to fight them but they're throwing knives at her a lot of throwing knives i don't like that at all they're eating all the food in the kitchen it's like the scene in jumanji where the monkeys are have i talked about how jumanji really scared me as a kid? It's really scary that. It's really fucking scary. The alligator scene really scared me. Or potentially crocodile. Yeah, I couldn't tell you. I haven't seen it in a very long time, but that movie really
Starting point is 00:53:53 scared me. It's scary. There's some downstairs attacking the mom. The other one is still upstairs with Gizmo, who's watching all of this helplessly. And they put Gizmo on a dartboard and they're throwing darts at him. So Gizmo is just like, it's like very sad.
Starting point is 00:54:14 That's not nice. The ones downstairs that are eating, they're going yummy, yummy, yummy as they're eating. And the mom manages to kill a couple. Nice. And one of them she kills by putting it in the microwave and turning it on and it explodes in the microwave. It's actually brutal. Really? She is.
Starting point is 00:54:40 She's she's going all out. They run out into the world. They're out of the house now. And one of them, one of the gremlins has a tuft of white hair on his head and they refer to him as Stripe. He seems like kind of the leader of them. He seems to be directing them to be their most naughtiest selves. selves. So Stripe and a couple of the other ones, or maybe just Stripe, gets out of the house and makes a run for it into he gets to the
Starting point is 00:55:11 YMCA. I'm going through this kind of fast. I'm sorry for anyone who's like she's leaving stuff out, but I just that's just the way this one's gonna be. I'm sorry. Are they walking through the snow? Yes, and their bare little gremlin feet, you mean?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, well, I wasn't concerned about their bare little Gremlin feet, but I am just Wouldn't that get them wet? Oh It doesn't Grapple with that Okay We're not confronting that
Starting point is 00:55:44 Snow is dry in this world Put that out of your mind bull with that. We're not confronting that. Snow is dry in this world. Put that out of your mind. Okay, I'm not. Because it sort of feels like that's maybe why you would set this in wintertime. But perhaps that's not what we're choosing. No, it's because it's a Christmas movie that
Starting point is 00:56:01 came out in June. Yeah, but I just feel like if I'm writing a movie about creatures that when they get wet, bad things happen and then there's no present. I feel like that's why you would do that. No, Emily, they need to go to the Y.
Starting point is 00:56:18 There could be a swimming pool there. There could be any number of things there. I don't know what's there yet. I haven't found out. We're not going to talk about the snow Forget about the snow I'm forgetting about the snow Wipe it from your mind Great
Starting point is 00:56:31 Sure enough Stripe Finds a pool And at this point Kate and Billy are in pursuit Of Stripe But they don't make it They arrive at the YMCA, but not in time to prevent him from jumping into that pool. And the pool bubbles up. It's looking like the water
Starting point is 00:56:55 is boiling. There's smoke coming out of it. It's a pretty cool effect. And we just see that the gremlins are multiplying way more than before. There's hundreds of them now. Oh, boy. Yeah, there's a lot. And then they just go out on the town to do their little gremlin shit some more. Just create some chaos. They are creating chaos. Some of them go and do Christmas caroling,
Starting point is 00:57:27 which is very funny. What song do they sing? I think they sing, Do You Hear What I Hear? But they don't have words really. So it's like, I can't remember if that's it, but it's... I love it. They're just being really silly. And yeah, I think part of the reason why I'm like skipping stuff is because it's not necessarily like plot. They just kind of do a bunch of random stuff, you know? Yeah, they're just being bad. They're just being bad.
Starting point is 00:57:59 They're out there living their worst lives. Wait, have you guys ever lived in a house where carolers knocked and sang? Or have you ever been a caroler who knocked and sang on another house? No, but my neighbors do caroling in their yard. They're like very active in their church. And so they have church little caroler nights and it's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:58:24 They sing their carols and I get to hear it and I love it. I think when I was a kid, there were some times where I would do that. I feel like we did it. I feel like that too, but it almost makes me feel like I'm living in a simulation where it's like, I feel like I have memories of doing that. But like, why do I feel like that? I've been having that more and more. I feel like as I get older, it's harder for me to tell what memories are real and what are something from movies and what is something that I dreamt.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I feel like lately my dreams, I'll get confused later and be like, oh, no, I told you that. And then I'll be like, wait, that was a, I dreamt that I told you that. I didn't actually tell you that. Or someone will ask me like, oh, have you done this? Have you seen this? And I can like on the spot, imagine a world where I have done that thing and go like, I can't tell if I'm just able to put myself in that experience and then say like, yeah, I've done that. Or do you know what I mean? Like, myself in that experience and then say like, yeah, I've done that. Or do you know what I mean? Like, it's like, am I creating the memory currently or do I, am I accessing a memory? Yep. Yeah. Which is why memory is very fickle and we shouldn't do things like, um, no eyewitness testimonies,
Starting point is 00:59:36 no eyewitness testimonies, because we can tell our, I can make up a memory. I could make up a memory right now. And in 10 minutes, I would believe that it was real. Yep. Me too. I would forget that I made it up. 100%. 100%. They're going to use this in court 50 years from now when we're trying to prove something that we all saw. I feel like if I'm in court in my 80s, I'm not that concerned. I hope not.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But don't try me on it, you know? So they're out there being bad So they're out there being bad They're out there being bad There's they show up at Mrs. Deagle's house Oh no She's got a bunch of cats She's a crazy cat lady that's why she hates dogs
Starting point is 01:00:18 Oh sure sure And they bust into her house She might be who they start doing the carolings for And then they like push her down and run into her house She might be who they'd start doing the carolings for And then they like push her down and run into the house And There's one of them that's smoking all of her cigarettes But smoking like three cigarettes at once Drinking her liquor
Starting point is 01:00:36 One of them One of them puts on a like I don't know where he gets this actually He has on a tiny little robe Which had to be made for a gremlin unless she had like a robe for her cat maybe but he puts on this robe or it's like a coat type thing and then he like calls her over like and she looks and he opens the coat like he's flashing her but they don't have genitals so it's just like the intention is that he's flashing her
Starting point is 01:01:05 oh it's really funny I love it then they are terrorizing her and she has one of those motorized seats that goes up and down her staircase that really made me laugh
Starting point is 01:01:24 that really made me laugh. That really made me think of a Disney ride. I was like, they'd strap you in and throw you up the stairs. What's her name? Mrs. Deagle. Just like Mrs. Deagle from Gremlins. Mm-hmm. And yeah, so she goes in it, and they turn it up way too high,
Starting point is 01:01:42 and she flies up and out the window. It shouldn't have that setting. Oh, she flies out the window? Yeah, and I'm pretty sure she dies. I mean, yeah. Oh my gosh. Bye, Miss D. Hull. There's a scene in which Kate is working at the bar and they're all patrons
Starting point is 01:01:58 at the bar now and she's still serving them and it's really funny and she's looking overworked like, ha, like trying to give them all their beers and all the grandmas are like this she's just doing her best to serve them all billy grabs gizmo and is trying to track her down to make sure she's safe and she leaves the bar with him and they get into the car and he's like we got to figure out we got to figure out a game plan here they drive away to like get a moment to themselves to be able to make a make a little game plan and they're walking in the snow and she says dry as
Starting point is 01:02:40 hell dry as hell and she says great Now I have another reason to hate Christmas. And he asks her, you know, what's your deal, basically? What's your deal? Hey, girl. Babe, you okay? And she tells this story. Oh, no. She says, it was Christmas Eve and I was nine years old.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I went to bed. I was so excited for all my presents in the morning and woke up and my dad wasn't there. It was just my mom. We didn't know where my dad was. And so they put in a police report searching the whole town for her dad is missing. Where the hell is he? They can't find him anywhere until she smells something and something falls in the chimney. And they find her father dressed as Santa. He was trying to crawl down the chimney to deliver presents and he got stuck and died. And she says, and that's how I found out there was no Santa.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Oh, my God. Yeah. And after this, they were like, Maybe this movie should have just been for 13 It's so tonally Insane and weird and Unnecessary and The studio understandably Really wanted to Cut this
Starting point is 01:04:19 Joe Dante was very adamant about Keeping it even Steven Spielberg Was like it's not, I don't love this scene, but he didn't want to overstep. And he was like, if Joe Dante feels that strong about it, we can keep it in.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So they kept it in and it's the craziest weirdest scene. Wow. That I really didn't see coming, but honestly, I love it and I'm glad they kept it because it really you know it's I like to be surprised in movies surprising I mean you know what I've never heard a story like that before I did not see it coming at all that is not what I thought I'm sure he was screaming in the chimney no one could hear him. He just silently died. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:06 He might have frozen to death or something while he was climbing down. Or like suffocated. Maybe he suffocated. Suffocated. I can't remember exactly, but not a good way to go. Thank God they didn't try to start a fire. Maybe they did. Maybe that is... They definitely
Starting point is 01:05:22 would have smelled him sooner if they had done that. That might have been how they smelled him It's like a horrifying story It's similar to the snow It's like the more we would try to unpack it Let's let it go I don't want to think about it But I do want to ask you guys
Starting point is 01:05:37 Because it's kind of similar Were you ever at a birthday party growing up Where one of the parents dressed up like a character And surprised you? Oh. I honestly don't think so. And it was kind of terrifying. What was the character?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Barney. My neighbor, for her like fifth birthday, the dad dressed up like Barney and came into the room. And I remember being like, what what the fuck Barney's here what the fuck is going on somebody tell me what's happening right now I'm feeling like not good about it I remember being like this isn't I don't think he's supposed to be here
Starting point is 01:06:17 he's not supposed to be here no that's I don't yeah I don't think I have one of those but give me a few minutes and i'll i'll i'll have that one i was gonna say i can definitely conjure one maybe of like a spider man or something but it's perfect because maybe we're living in the simulation and maybe it's not a real memory yeah no i think it was worse for me because it was my next door neighbor and my parents were like you can go over there by yourself so i think i was there by myself and you were like and then also barney arrived and then barney showed up and your reality was
Starting point is 01:06:48 turned on and there was nobody to turn to to be like mommy is this is this okay what's happening we're all okay with this yeah i was so scared i remember being scared of Barney. It was just her dad in a big old Barney suit from like 1994 or whenever that was. That's really funny. Okay, sorry. Keep going. Okay, so after she tells him this horrifying story, which he clearly is completely unequipped to deal with. Because he thought everybody has a good time at Christmas. Sure.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I think he just hugs her. I don't, I literally don't remember how this, it felt, it's like so out of left field. And then I don't think, and I don't think it. We don't really deal with it. Yeah. I don't think it adds to anything at all. Well, if the movie needed it. But I'm glad it's there uh so then they continue on they're like okay we gotta keep an eye on them and see how i don't know they'll form a plan when they find where they all are and they find them at the local movie theater, all of them are watching Snow White and they're freaking loving it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 They are jumping with joy going, hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho. And popcorn is flying everywhere. They're making a huge mess. Is it actually Snow White? Yeah. How'd they get their rights to that? I guess Steven Spielberg? Maybe Steven Spielberg. I think there was even a trivia about this, about Snow White? I guess Steven Spielberg? Maybe Steven Spielberg.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I think there was even a trivia about this, about Snow White being in other Stevens. Is it like a public domain? It might have been public domain at this time, or maybe it still is. I don't know. Interesting. But yeah, so they're loving this movie, and Billy and Kate realize this is a good opportunity with all of them in one location to blow up
Starting point is 01:08:48 the building. They're gonna inglorious bastards them. Yes, yes. Whoa, yes. And while they're getting their materials together, don't know what the fuck they use. Oh, they go down into like the basement of the movie theater and turn on the gas
Starting point is 01:09:03 and then they're just gonna essentially light a match. But while they're doing this, we see down into like the basement of the movie theater and turn on the gas. And then they're just going to essentially light a match. But while they're doing this, we see Stripe leaves the theater. Well, he goes to the concession stand first and he's going, yum, yum, yum, yum. And he's looking and there's all the concessions have been eaten. They've eaten everything. And he just needs more food. And he sees a candy store across the street. And he goes, yum, yum. And he goes across the he sees a candy store across the street and he goes yum yum and he goes
Starting point is 01:09:27 across the street to the candy store so even though they successfully blow up that theater it's a pretty big explosion too they see that he is in the store across the street and they're like, fuck. They don't say fuck, obviously. It's PG. PG-13 at best. But Billy says, you know, if they get to water, it's going to start all over again. So we've got to stop. Stripe, they
Starting point is 01:09:57 follow him in through the store, which I guess is connected to a full department store. It seems like a Best buy almost and he tells kate to go and find a light because that's the other thing is that the they don't like light it just oh right it hasn't been on them long enough to know if it hurts them but it clearly they hate it and so he gives kate gizmo and says go and find lights like if we can turn on lights in this department store
Starting point is 01:10:28 that will help us because it's really dark in there and so he goes in pursuit of Stripe while she's trying to turn on the lights and before they part ways they have a smooch a romantic smooch
Starting point is 01:10:44 so now Billy is going through the department store and Stripe shows up on all of the TVs just going like... It's like, you know, when there's a hundred TVs lining all the walls and so we don't know
Starting point is 01:10:59 where he is and Kate has found... Oh my god, that just reminded me. Do remember when that that used to be like a thing in store like they'd be like they'd be showing you like this is a video camera like check out the video camera and you could like go in front of it and it would play on the tvs behind it yeah that one i actually remember yes and kate has found the control room seemingly, but there's so many switches. So she's flipping switches willy nilly going. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I don't know, like blenders are turning on. And it's she's doesn't know which ones are the lights. No lights yet. while Billy is downstairs and Stripe finds him and is throwing saw blades at him that like essentially like frisbee style blades and Billy is really out of his element here we haven't seen like any indication that Billy will be good at dealing with hand-to-hand combat with a gremlin. Stripe's got
Starting point is 01:12:12 the upper hand. He finds one of those baseball things that you use in baseball practice when it's just you and you have to drop balls in and so it just shoots baseballs at you but they come really fast and he's hitting, he hits him in the back with one of those. And it looks so hard.
Starting point is 01:12:27 It looks really painful. And I had a little suspicion that there might have been an actor's violation in that moment. And Stripe finds a bow and arrow and Billy is knocked to the ground. His head is bleeding. He's taken a beating from stripe and stripe pulls back the arrow and goes bye bye but just as he does i don't know billy throws something at him and knocks him over and so he he dodges the arrow Stripe doesn't miss a beat. He grabs a chainsaw. He's running at him with a chainsaw now.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And Billy has a aluminum baseball bat, which isn't a bad weapon. I think it came pretty close to winning our... Did it win? It did. It might have won. No. Did it win? I think it won our weapon of choice tournament, a baseball bat.
Starting point is 01:13:23 It is a good one. And it is holding off the chainsaw a little bit, but it's not looking great. And at that moment, Gizmo, he rides in on a little toy, like Barbie car essentially, flies through and like knocks them over. So he comes to,
Starting point is 01:13:46 comes to the rescue. And at this moment, Kate finds the light switches finally and turn, turns them on. And we see that it is almost like a vampire type reaction. It's, Ooh, stripe is like smoking a little bit where the light is.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And so he runs out of the light. And what about Gizmo? We don't see where he goes. Gizmo is Billy covers him. And so he runs out of the light and but what about gizmo we don't see where he goes gizmo uh billy covers him and so he's okay one of the things when kate was flipping on lights it turned on a fountain in the store oh no and so when stripe flees he's good he sees it and says water and he also finds a gun and says gun this store is nuts it's crazy we're buying blenders, baseball bats,
Starting point is 01:14:31 guns, chainsaws, bow and arrow candy what the hell kind of store is this candy is yeah also very weird very strange store and so we see that Stripe is he's found his next water source he's he's moving towards it and he jumps in and he's getting wet and he starts uh shaking and convulsing like gizmo
Starting point is 01:15:00 did in the beginning and we see little lumps forming on his back that are the way that he multiplies so once those pop off they turn into other things but they're just forming right now none have popped off yet and gizmo comes they they both come in and gizmo jumps up to the ceiling and opens a panel that lets in a bunch of light. And now it is seeming like maybe Gizmo is going to be in the light as well. But it's hitting Stripe. Stripe is fully in the light and he is melting. It is screaming in pain and his skin is melting off It is... Ew! He's screaming in pain and his skin is melting
Starting point is 01:15:47 off of his face. How did they anticipate doing this with a monkey? Great question. At this moment, Randall arrives too because they've known that Billy's not home and that something's wrong and obviously mayhem is happening all across town.
Starting point is 01:16:04 And so Randall gets there just as and that something's wrong and obviously mayhem is happening all across town and so uh randall gets there uh just as stripe collapses into the fountain seemingly dead all of his skin has melted off but billy approaches the fountain slowly suspiciously Stripe jumps out one more time and he's just bones now. He's like a skeleton. Like gooey skeleton. Gooey. No thanks. Then the light is still shining and so his bones also
Starting point is 01:16:35 disintegrate. It's like the part in Breaking Bad where Walter dissolves someone in acid. Yeah. That's the first episode. That's the first episode of Breaking Bad? I think so. Or first or second. Where it's in the bathtub and he falls through the bathtub because he didn't get the right kind of acid. Yes. I think that's the first episode. I think it's the first episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:58 What a pilot. And so Stripe is dead. We've got a blanket wrapped around Gizmo now, so he's okay. But he, you know, he was clearly willing to sacrifice himself for this. Yeah. We see on the news, they're saying all these strange destructive incidents have been happening that can only be explained by mass hysteria. So they think everyone in the town just went momentarily insane, I guess. It's the only explanation. It's the only explanation. They're back at home.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Everything's fine now. All the gremlins are gone. Foof, big foof. Randall and Billy and Billy's mom are back at the home with Gizmo when there's a jump scare of the grandpa salesman from the beginning just appearing in their house. He's come to take Gizmo back because he said he's not for sale. Billy is devastated. And the grandpa says, you do with Mogwai what your society does with
Starting point is 01:18:07 all of nature's gifts. You're not ready for this. It's like you basically destroy everything good. So you can't have it. So I'm taking away. And as he's leaving, Gizmo goes like
Starting point is 01:18:23 and the grandpa guy is like, okay, okay. And can understand what he's saying. And so Billy's very impressed by this. You can understand what he's saying. He says, to understand, all you have to do is listen. And he says that Gizmo wants to say goodbye to him. And so he opens up the box. Gizmo pokes his little head out and says,
Starting point is 01:18:48 Bye, Billy. Billy's clearly heartbroken in this moment. And the salesman somewhat reassuringly says, Perhaps someday you will be ready. Until then, Mogw you will be ready. Until then, Mogwai will be waiting. They're walking away. Randall gives him one of his
Starting point is 01:19:12 inventions and thanks. It's a smokeless ashtray, which is essentially just like a metal dome. And as they're walking away, Gizmo is singing, hi-ho, hi-ho. He was singing it earlier, too too they just like to sing it's not anything sinister like he's a gremlin or anything it's just he liked that song it's a
Starting point is 01:19:31 good song it's a banger they're like walking off into the distance as some voiceover comes in i believe it's randall and he says so the next time your fridge breaks down or something like goes wrong in the night that you can't explain, turn on all the lights and check everywhere because you never know when a gremlin might be in your house. And that's the end of the movie. Whoa. What? Okay. Interesting way to go out. Sure.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I loved it. I mean, definitely setting us up for a gremlins 2 obviously yeah uh apparently the director also prefers gremlins 2 and given the his passion about that one scene oh yeah that certainly makes it seem like we're you're in for something cuckoo yeah also originally gizmo Stripe were supposed to be the same character. Gizmo was supposed to transform into Stripe, but they decided, I think it was maybe Steven Spielberg, that was like, we got to have a good one that we can root for. He was right about that. I think that was the right call. That was a really smart idea. Yeah, that's how Steven Spielberg knew what he was doing when it came to heroes and villains.
Starting point is 01:20:49 It's true. There needed to be heroes. There needed to be villains. He knew what he was doing. And he knew we needed a cute little creature. He knew that. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you, Stephen.
Starting point is 01:20:59 And thank you, Sammy. Thank you, Sammy. Wow. We did it. Gremlins. A classic. Finally did it. Gremlins, a classic. Finally did it. There were some great suggestions for other holiday horror movies. I think there was one called Better Watch Out that did look pretty good. So I will be watching some holiday horror and I might do
Starting point is 01:21:16 another little one-off episode of other stuff that I've been watching and just give you a little mini reviews, I guess. Mini-sode is what I'm trying to say. So stay tuned and happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Henley's birthday. And most importantly, happy Henley's birthday. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:21:43 That's what everyone should be thinking about right now. It should be top of mind for all of our listeners. It's top of mind for sure. There's nothing else going on in the world around us. No. Nothing else. All that exists for me is Henley. Good.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Good. Good. Good. Good. Gremlins is fun. It's fun. It's a fun one. We will be off next week. We're going to have a vault release, but then we'll be back in the new year with some scary ones.
Starting point is 01:22:19 With something spooky. Gonna have to get real scary. We'll get scary in the new year. We'll start it off right. Let's do Double Black Diamond. Let's do May December. Oh, May December. We did have some suggestions for Salt Burn as well. Maybe I'll do that in the mini-sode.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Yeah, they really want us to do Salt Burn. Interesting. There's some crazy shit in Salt Burn that I would love to talk about. I would like to hear about it. I would like to hear about it. I'm to hear about it i'm curious it's not scary it's just disturbing and i like that it's not even really disturbing just unsettling disturbing it's just things i've never seen before and that like i said i just like to be surprised it's's nice to have something you've never seen before. Okay, I'm going to take us out with some gremlin noises, obviously.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah, be a little gremlin. But they don't actually necessarily say the words, so I'm going to do what I can to just do the... Yeah, yep, yep. Occasionally there'll be a word or two in there, but... From where to where, I don't know where to where. That's so great! I'm going to do it. Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Too Scary, Didn't Watch. If you like the show, please subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and give us a rating, a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You can follow us on social media at TSDW Podcast on Instagram and Twitter. And if one episode a week just is not enough for you,
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