Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HAPPY DEATH DAY

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

Grab your shiny, hard, Porky Pig masks and meet us on the quad, we're recapping HAPPY DEATH DAY! This patron-chosen movie is Groundhog Day meets Final Destination meets Scream...aka the perfe...ct combo!! (Fair Warning: we also discuss the submersible and Michael Douglas's 1997 film The Game for 50% of this episode) TRAILER Recap begins @ 37:51 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we got a fun one today, a patron chosen episode. Thank you for the fun one, patrons.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Thank you, patrons. It's going to be a good time. And normally I would ask if anything scary happened to us this week, but I think we're going to have to talk about something very unexpected. Yes. That happened that captured the world's attention Including ours In a global I called it global gossip Because it is news
Starting point is 00:01:10 But not in the way That other news is news Do you know what I mean? Yeah This was gossip And we are of course Talking about Vessels being
Starting point is 00:01:19 Front and center In the news cycle For the past week And Titanic Being front and center And Titanic Who I this has been like one of the craziest weeks of my life i've turned into it like an actual insane person i've been so glued to this news of the submersible I subscribed to Sling TV
Starting point is 00:01:46 So that I could have live news I also need to say I was physically In Sammy's presence for Much of this news Breaking and I can Confirm she was Very on top of the news Of my finger on the pulse
Starting point is 00:02:03 Very on top we tried to watch the first press conference at breakfast in a public place. Oh my God. We had to know. Had to know. All subsequent press conferences, I watched live real time. Yes, you did. There was one today at 1 p.m. Watch that one.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Not a lot of new information there. Yeah, I would imagine so. I know literally everything about this whole situation. For anybody who somehow missed. Okay, that's me. That's me. Even though we were texting about it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Okay, buckle up. Yeah, I was not paying close attention to the deets. Granted, I would also not have paid as close attention had I not been physically in Sammy's presence. So can you guys walk me through the beats of what happened? How the news unfolded? Yes. When we found out what
Starting point is 00:02:56 we found out and when we found out what we all found out. Yeah. The facts and the things that we all know. Walk me through it. Sammy, take it away. Okay. Sunday, this things that we all know. Walk me through it. Sammy, take it away. Okay. Sunday, this past Sunday, breaking news, a submersible by the name of Titan goes missing on a dive to go see the wreckage of the Titanic. Huge.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And it's so deep. The wreckage of the Titanic is so deep. So deep. It's's 12 500 feet deep and who's on this submersible you know it's so crazy i know all of their names and ages by heart i definitely am close to knowing all of their names i don't know if i know actually all of their ages i'll see if i can fill in the gaps where you don't have them it's all men right it's all men not not a single woman can be found on a submersible no but they have been in the past there have been women on this exact submersible there just wasn't any this time uh so first up we've got the ceo of the company ocean gate that
Starting point is 00:04:02 built the campers called ocean gate it's. Ocean Gate. It's so fucking funny. Sorry. It's so funny. It's very funny. Stockton Rush. He's in his 50s, I think. Maybe 40s. Whoa, what a name.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Stockton Rush? You kidding? The CEO of Ocean Gate? Stockton Rush? Absolutely wild. Get this, Henley. His wife's great grandparents are also Isidore and Ida Strauss, the old couple that died on the Titanic that are related to King Princess as well. His wife's grandparents?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Great grandparents. Yeah. So now she has lost her great grandparents and her husband to the wreckage of the Titanic. They're both down. They're all down there. Isn't that fucking crazy? This is just like blowing my mind. I just couldn't.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I can't believe this happened. Next up, we have French Titanic expert, P.H. Nargile. He was 77. Oh, wow. He those two were like in charge of the dive. Stockton was piloting. P.H. was a like guide he was the expert that would have been telling them facts about it the other three were paying passengers the ticket
Starting point is 00:05:13 price for this submersible 250 000 per person oh my god that's so much money okay but but i overheard i will say okay i want somebody to keep going through this. So we were at the Madonna Inn when this news broke. My favorite place on earth combined with Sammy's favorite news event. Wow, amazing weekend. And an incredible start to the week. And so it was also really surreal to be in such a public, like we were surrounded by people for days. And everyone was talking about this. I cannot remember the last time something
Starting point is 00:05:45 like this happened that literally everybody was talking about 9-11 to me it was like 9-11 but fun it captured the imagination of the world look people died five people are dead five people including a 19 year old which is awful it's very sad but in the moment before we knew they were dead there was this is why i called it global gossip there was that element of like the way we all talk about celebrity gossip of how everyone was talking about this and like the little snippets of conversation it just was like so interesting to be like at the diner that morning, like the two women next to us were also talking about it by the pool. We would walk by a family sitting in the pool. They were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Just like you're hearing everybody's little takes on it, which was so fascinating. But one thing I heard from this dude at the pool, Sammy, you already gone at this point. They were he was talking about he was like, you think you can get the titanic for 250 000 like come on like he was basically making the point like they didn't pay enough which honestly i once he said that i was like yeah he's right this was crazy of them to think that they could do to go on the deepest dive ever done and be like two and fifty thousand dollars that's a fucking steal you're billionaires there's a reason this is cheaper than it should be yeah i thought it was an excellent point isn't it normally 250 000 or is this a discount they're the only ones that take
Starting point is 00:07:10 passengers i just mean to for the ship to be safe enough which spoiler alert it wasn't like probably it should cost more than that you should be willing to pay more to make sure it's not going to implode how often do these trips happen this i believe was the fourth one and part of the problem was in this submersible there's been other trips down to titanic in more um regulated submersibles yes so jimmy cameron yeah old jim yeah and ph nargilea had also gone down over i think like 35 times um and him i'm like confused about why he didn't see all the red flags but i guess hindsight is 2020 and we all know now that carbon fiber is not going to be sufficient for a submersible. Then we had Hamish Harding.
Starting point is 00:08:08 He's actually the only billionaire on board. The rest of them are just very rich. Standard millionaires. Yeah, the father and son were. Hamish Harding, 58, by the way. Oh, yeah, 58. And he is just a random billionaire. He's a billionaire and he loves the
Starting point is 00:08:26 Titanic. Okay. And maybe also a vesselhead. He was a vesselhead. He's been three times deeper than the Titanic. He has been to Challenger Deep. So that's the deepest point in the ocean. Three times deeper than the Titanic. And he has been there
Starting point is 00:08:42 in obviously a different submersible. That's really scary. The ocean is is terrifying the ocean is so scary you were joel who was saying that the depths that they were going to for this fewer people have been to that depth than have been to outer space like this ocean depth is so much more unknown and scary than other kinds of exploration that it's just as insane to me that people would be like yeah i'll do it yeah it's so insane isn't it like 95 of the ocean floor has been unmapped or something like that it's like we don't know what's down there at all yeah and like i'm sorry the best movie ever made about the titanic about anything exists and it's like you can just watch that safely just watch that just watch that you
Starting point is 00:09:33 can even get wet and watch it if you want to feel like you're in the ocean you can play ocean sounds and watch the movie titanic and be safe and have a great fucking time. There's something I understand about it, or at least I'm fascinated. Like share some of the I would never do this, but it's it. There were times where I was reminded of Alex Honnold and Free Solo and climbers that do these kind of really death defying dangerous things because that's the way their brain works. And these kind of like thrill seeking people that are pushing the boundaries, which are like seekers.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah. Which I think can be really cool and inspiring. And I think exploration is cool or can be cool. And I'm glad that people are exploring things that we don't know about or understand but it just uh obviously the i feel like the main problem here is the disregard for safety regulations and the fact that there are paying passengers that are not like research scientists or experts in any way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And we're maybe misled. Well, yeah. In the notion of like for the right price tag, you can do anything like it's I feel like at a certain point, things like that become a sort of like, well, I'm rich enough, so I will. Yeah. Hamish had also been to space. He was on Elon Musk's rocket. So he had he's also been to space. He was on Elon Musk's rocket. So he had he's also gone to space. Yeah, it just becomes a thing of like, I feel like it's less about the curiosity.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And obviously, this comes with judgment. I don't know these people are people like this, but like less about the like, yeah, like a curiosity of exploration and discovery and knowledge and more about I can do it. I'm going to do it. And that's not I don't like that at all. I don't think exploration should be privately funded by billionaires. Okay, keep taking us through.
Starting point is 00:11:36 The final two are the father and son Shazada and Suleiman Dawood and this one is the most devastating one because Suleiman did not want to go. He was very, very scared. And he went because it was father's day and he went with his dad on it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And so that one is really, really awful. Oh my God. I hate that. He's 19 and his dad was 48 That's so sad Really really sad Oh jeez
Starting point is 00:12:10 Yeah very devastating And I hope that from This well I guess okay so Yeah we'll keep going through the timeline is that When we first heard it Obviously the thing that pops into your head Is like well they're obviously dead because they were at extreme depths and the stakes down there are so high
Starting point is 00:12:32 they lost power or they lost communication yeah with the you know i don't know people sending them down which they were doing via a an xbox controller is that correct the the controls of the submersible are yes done by an xbox controller which is very crazy but i think it's also not the craziest thing there's like broke don't fix it it's a good control exactly it's like what do you make a better controller than xbox they freaking nailed it exactly it's like, it's something that's really controller than Xbox. They nailed it. Exactly. It's like, if all you need to do is go up and down and left and right, might as well use the tried and true thing. Yeah. It's the carbon fiber that we are really, uh,
Starting point is 00:13:15 really shouldn't have been using. But, um, so the thing that drives me or the thing that really was shocking to me is that the ship above that was monitoring this and getting occasional updates from the submersible, they're supposed to be able to contact via text messages and some sort of signal. Really rudimentary, like not anything. Yeah. How would they know there'd be fucking cell reception at 12,000 feet? Yeah, exactly. And I think there can be For a bigger price tag
Starting point is 00:13:49 James Cameron got a phone call from his wife At 27,000 feet deep That's true And we did kept We kept coming back to this and we were talking about it It's like look it can be done James has done it James has done it many times
Starting point is 00:14:04 But James did it safely And we should all learn a thing or two from James Cameron Look, it can be done. James has done it. James has done it many times. But James did it safely. And we should all learn a thing or two from James Cameron. Who isn't always the safest when it comes to being in the water. Sure. But in this case. His own safety? His own safety paramount.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. his own safety paramount yeah so after they lost communication the people above water what do you like on the ship above um waited seven hours to report them missing because they waited the duration of how long the trip would have taken for them to go down explore the wreckage of the titanic and come back up which would have taken like eight hours go down, explore the wreckage of the Titanic and come back up, which would have taken like eight hours or so, eight to 10 hours round trip. But I'm just like, if you lose communication, you know that there's like a high probability something is really wrong. And, you know, ultimately it wouldn't have mattered if they called people sooner or later because we now know that loss of communication was the moment of them imploding. But we didn't know that at the time. And so they...
Starting point is 00:15:16 It was a Schrodinger's cat situation. I saw that. I saw people tweeting, is Schrodinger's fucking submersible. And look, what ended up happening, which, you know, yes, they imploded, which, given the other options on the table, kind of the best one for them to have, you know, died in that mission. Pretty much the best way for it to have gone down, because, oh my God god the other options were unfathomably awful i think that was the most kind of crazy part of this week was the basically the
Starting point is 00:15:54 two days after so the canadian coast guard or someone picked up a banging noise and that led people to believe that they might still be alive trapped at the bottom of the ocean which is very complicated because there are no other submersibles available that could get down there yeah no other submersible could go as deep which is also fucking insane to send a submersible down that no other ship can get to no backup plan so they eventually got an rov to come in which is a um remotely operated vehicle and that could go to those depths and i feel like yeah everyone was just picturing such horrifying scenarios and i could not stop thinking about it like if they were alive inside it was like it's a tiny like yeah elevator sized thing they're all scrunched in there together and limited amount of oxygen
Starting point is 00:16:52 they obviously don't have like food or supplies to be down there for days if they had been the same he was saying is like a small white little thing so like if it had been floating on the surface they also wouldn't have been able to see it because The waters were really choppy like there was just No Again it imploded so none of this Ended up being the scenario but the Fact that like any of these could
Starting point is 00:17:15 Have been possibilities is so Fucking insane to me That none of these options were considered Like okay well What if we lose power what if it goes down what like absolutely no planning for anything other than like perfect 10 out of 10 goes exactly how we want it to the fact that it's painted white is really especially shocking painted bright fucking orange basically all other submersibles i've seen are neon any
Starting point is 00:17:46 other color but white insane that is so crazy it's really dumb really dumb um but so eventually after they got the rov in the water they were able to find a debris field and confirm that the sub had imploded and everything was consistent with it having imploded on the descent. There's some question it's unconfirmed right now, but based on where it looks like they dropped ballast at some point, which might mean that they got a warning and we're trying to come back up. And so there is a chance they were like scared for a couple minutes but i think the time between those two things would have been really really quick and like the moment of implosion this is what i like keep i can't like chain stop thinking about it is just like what it means to implode is so crazy the pressure where they were is equivalent to being underneath the Empire State Building if it were made entirely out of lead.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And so that would have crushed them. There would have been a moment of a fire inside like a split second. All of this is in like milliseconds. And the fire would have reached the temperature of the surface of the sun. So they would have been incinerated and then basically crushed. But they were dead before they were crushed because they got incinerated. Yeah, I think they would have been incinerated and like vapor. Like there's going to be absolutely no remains of them.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Would that be maybe the fastest possible way to die? I think this is also the crazy thing. And someone posted on Reddit, like no one has ever, they're the only ones that have ever experienced dying that way, which is just really crazy. And I think that's part of also the fascination is like what a novel thing this is. People have died in implosions before in submarines, submarines go like one quarter of the this depth and so it's just really wild to try to wrap your head around what that means like literally to be vaporized yeah and this is where you and i differ sammy in many ways this is sort of comes back to the nature of this whole podcast is that all i wanted to do was talk about this think about it hear about it until i found out oh they died it imploded i was like oh that's really very sad
Starting point is 00:20:11 um i'm out and now i'm like wait i'm sorry what happened i just like decided to go well that's one thing i won't be looking into thank you good day no it's like led me down this is the same thing as like with Titanic and USS Indianapolis, how I focus on these things. And I like want to know more and more and more about like, what does that mean? What does imploding mean? What are other situations where people have imploded? And I like found this other thing. What is it called? The bywood dolphin? Hold on. Well, it just brings up questions also like mourning because so much of how we grieve people is by burying them or scattering their ashes or like doing something with their remains.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And it's, I mean, it obviously happens in other situations too, but like when you're vaporized, there's no more remains. Yeah. Like, where do you go? are you you're just particles in the ocean now i think at least like it's a really dark silver silver lining but like it's so much better than them like never being found nothing being found and like going completely missing would be horrible and knowing that an implosion would have been an instant painless death. It would.
Starting point is 00:21:27 So much better than what it could have been down there. Yeah. It could have been really painful and really scary. Yeah. I was going to say that it led me to this. Something. Something called the Biford dolphin accident, which was actually an explosion,
Starting point is 00:21:42 but also to do with pressurizers, people, people being rapidly depressurized so the opposite of an of what happened to um oh like when you come up out of the yes they were in those like that kind of thing tanks that were supposed to be slowly pressurizing and someone accidentally opened a door. So they like went from one to nine or no nine to one atmospheres of pressure instantly. And same thing, like it would have been an instant and painless death. But yeah, I don't know. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's just all very morbid. But I was just I find it so fascinating and crazy and instant and painless. I'm wondering, like, can we find a way to make that available when the time comes like as we're like forget for you know doctor assistants who said i want doctor assisted instant implosion yeah and it's if we're doing the death penalty let's do it that way and if you could find a way to vaporize injection thing yeah we shouldn't be doing the death penalty at all but we shouldn't no we especially shouldn't be doing it when it's
Starting point is 00:22:50 so cruel and inhumane and slow correct yeah um i mean it really yeah it's just it's it is such a fascinating thing that happened this week that it also was, yeah, like truly worldwide. It was a multiple governments got in on the search for these people. Like I. There are so many. Horrifying things that are happening all the time that we don't talk about in the news, things that we do talk about. A lot of people were bringing up the boat of, of migrants that within the same week, like capsized and,
Starting point is 00:23:27 and which wasn't getting the same attention. And that's is horrible, is horrible. And I just want to say, I think it's because this felt like gossip, like, like again, like again,
Starting point is 00:23:39 there's a real lives at stake, but it's like, it was so weird. I think, yeah, it's the novelty of it this has not ever happened before also it's happening to rich people and it's happening to rich people who went to go to the titanic again it's the titanic happening again it's people like rich people ignoring safety standards to accomplish something that hadn't been accomplished before it's literally the exact same thing it's like it happened on the titanic accomplished Before it's literally the exact same thing That happened on the Titanic
Starting point is 00:24:05 Interesting like it's We weren't talking about it because the value Of those lives is higher like certainly Like it's not why I or any of the people At the Madonna Inn were talking about the tone That it was being talked about was like Can you fucking believe This and it's so
Starting point is 00:24:22 Devastating to be alive right now That like Every news thing that we do All talk about is like Mass shooting that Boat of Mike like it's just like fucking People getting shipped From one state to another so that
Starting point is 00:24:38 Because they're basically being treated as not Humans all the news is terrible This Was Fascinating yeah and again really sad that lives were lost particularly such a young person um but there was a little bit that was funny yep and this is hamish harding's stepson, whose Twitter presence, Facebook presence during this time was unlike anything I could have ever expected. He absolutely should have had his phone taken from him from the first instant. I think he hated his stepfather probably is the truth.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Possibly. Probably. Are they still around they know like his whole twitter is gone now his whole twitter is gone okay so that does make sense the first one who was he cheated just like a picture of the news stream was like hey my step dad's trapped in a submarine thoughts and prayers to send thoughts and prayers my dad's trapped in a submarine. Thoughts and prayers. Send thoughts and prayers. My dad's trapped in there. My stepdad's trapped in a submarine, which is very funny. And then the next day he posted a picture of himself in front of the merch table at a Blink 182 concert. And the post was.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Other people posting this picture. My dad would have been glad I was enjoying music Because it brings healing Music is healing so it's actually A good thing that I'm at Blink-182 While my stepdad Is maybe suffering on the ocean floor
Starting point is 00:26:18 Funny He says that he said maybe suffering No but the context was like my dad Would be glad that I'm at Blink-18 how old is he how is this guy 37 that shocked me i assumed he was 19 he's 37 this is a 37 year old man and after this people people were like digging into him a bit he has been jailed for stalking a woman he threatened to shoot people at an edm fest like this man is oh this is much less funny yeah god damn it why can't things just be funny Well it escalated so much so then the next thing
Starting point is 00:26:49 Was he was tweeting ladies I'm single because he's like Getting all this attention And then It became a feud with Cardi B Who was posted A TikTok Talking shit on the stepson.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And he was tweeting at her. And I think he brought the N-word into it. And then I think that's when his Twitter got deactivated. And it was just like, Jesus Christ. But yeah, it was like a fucking circus. Again, I stopped paying attention at a certain point. And when I stopped paying attention, it was... I wish I could have stopped. It's not even fun anymore stopped It's not even fun anymore
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's not even fun anymore Just a really crazy week I gotta tell you Walking like looking for a pool chair And hearing several Different groups of people Like just like snippets of their takes On this thing was like
Starting point is 00:27:44 I've never experienced anything like it. That wasn't, yeah, like an election or something like, obviously we're all talking about it. It was really wild. percent of subreddits in oh my god congrats to the titanic subreddit influx of uh users there that actually caused some drama the og titanic subreddit members are mad at the ocean subreddit an ocean gate subreddit was also hangers on you're only here because it's trendy Oh my god But yeah Wild week They're now going to be investigating For civil or criminal charges Because obviously this was Not
Starting point is 00:28:34 Okay So just to like Because you know all the things that I Thought were kind of Funny or Not anymore I just do a little tiny left turn you know all the things that i thought were kind of kind of funny or not anymore um i'll just i just do a little tiny left turn which is to say another thing i did this week is that sammy last night i watched the game oh my god what a good friend what a good friend but also the perfect
Starting point is 00:29:01 movie for you to watch emily i feel like you'd love it I did no no I did love it But I have to say for the first hour I was so stressed And it was scary and Stressful and I had a moment Where I thought oh no did Sammy do it again Did she Turn me on to a movie that I'm gonna fucking hate
Starting point is 00:29:20 But no no I did not And also I can't stop thinking about it And I won't be able to stop thinking about it. And what a wow. Oh my God. I'm so glad you watched it. I'm going to watch it every year on my birthday. Perfect birthday movie. Highly recommend. I bought the shirt, which if you've seen it, you'll know what shirt I mean. Incredible. Incredible. Really, really, really wild, really wild stuff happening over. It's been a real 1997 kind of week.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It really has. Real 19. Oh, my God. And Netflix is bringing Titanic back. It's just crazy. They're bringing Titanic back onto streaming. And yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:01 They're like, they got to they got to get in on the action. It's so wild. I hope you guys have been taking the breaks that you need from the internet because i sure haven't and i feel insane i feel really crazy oh my god look we've been talking about it for a half an hour in the past few years i have hit a point where i only want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable it happened it happened to me but you know what i still also want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable. It happened. It happened to me. But you know what? I still also want to look cute. And these are two desires that are often extremely opposing. And I don't want to have to sacrifice. I want both. I want comfort.
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Starting point is 00:32:46 We've been talking about her one half of an hour. It's so funny. Let's get into this week's movie. Yeah. Because we can't talk about some merciless all day long, even though, I mean, I could. I could. Yeah. We obviously could.
Starting point is 00:33:01 We shouldn't. We have something else to do, which is to talk about this week's movie, which is Happy Death Day came out in 2017, directed by Christopher Landon, written by Scott Lobdell, starring Jessica Roth, Israel Broussard, Ruby Modine and Rachel Matthews. And it is available to rent for $3.79, I believe, on Amazon Prime. A little 20 cent discount from your expected price to pay. A real promotion on Happy Death Day. Unless I had a 20 cent promotional credit. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:34 You might have. So check in. Everybody look into it for yourselves. But yeah, like I said, this was a patron chosen episode. If you would like to vote in a monthly patron chosen episode poll you can join our patreon at patreon.com slash tsdw podcast um but what do you guys know about this movie how are you feeling i don't know much i feel great because i know that this is an easy peasy lemon squeezy one she deserves it we're getting a break we're getting a much deserved much needed
Starting point is 00:34:06 break yep i got initially got this movie confused with freaky i thought that we were doing freaky which i have seen so it's on par with the like teen horror comedy vibes um and i don't but i have no idea like what the plot is or anything actually about what it's about great i also don't don't know anything except are there hard plastic masks yes there's one okay just one mask singular and actually um the only piece of trivia i have is that the mask was designed by Tony Gardner, who also designed the ghost face mask. Oh, I mean, what a mask. My God. You got the mask. Yeah. Yeah. You got to call Tony Gardner. You need a mask. You got to call Tony. And I don't actually think of the ghost face mask as being a hard plastic mask. No, it's kind of a soft plastic. It's kind of a soft plastic.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And I can't tell if that's what it actually is in screamer. If that's just because of how many ones I've seen in costume stores that are that kind of gooey. Yeah. It's not as shiny. It's not as shiny. It doesn't, you couldn't like knock your hand against it and have it have make a hard
Starting point is 00:35:21 sound. I think in the scream six one, you could, cause remember there's like an updated one. That's a little spooky. Yeah. A little Scream 6 one you could because remember there's like an updated one that's a little spookier. Yeah, a little bit harder. And the harder that mask gets, the spookier it is. And it's true!
Starting point is 00:35:33 You know what's spooky? Sorry, that clown in the game. I can't. I hope the clown in the game isn't very scary. Scary clown in the game. Yeah, that is true. I think he's ceramic Porcelain perhaps
Starting point is 00:35:47 I feel like that's adjacent to hard plastic It absolutely is It might be scarier But that's not here No, but let me tell you that Happy Death Day has a 71% On Metacritic A 51% on Rotten Tomatoes A 58% on Metacritic, a 58 on, oh, excuse me, 71% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 58 on Metacritic,
Starting point is 00:36:07 and a 6.6 on IMDb. Okay. The budget was 4.8 million. It made 125.5 million. Holy shit. Was it sequels? Yes. There is a Happy Death Day 2U fun sequel name. I have not seen it, but I'm curious now after seeing this. This is my first time watching this one. I had a good time, so I might check out the sequel. All right. And like I said, I don't have any trivia. So should we just watch this trailer and get into it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yes, please. Yes, please. Yes, please. Yes, please. Hmm. into it yeah yes please yes please yes please oh hey you're up am i in a dorm room yeah i folded your pants for you great It's not global warming? You sneaky little biatch. Maybe you should switch to water next time.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Super helpful. Don't be late to your party tonight. Okay, bye. Bye. Tree, happy birthday. You scared me. Hey, you're up. Look, I know this isn't gonna make any sense.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Stop global warming? I feel like I'm losing my mind. You sneaky little biatch. Happy birthday. I've already lived through this day. Somebody's gonna kill me tonight. Is everything okay? Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!
Starting point is 00:37:55 Assuming that I believe any of this is even possible. Sprinklers. Car alarm. The way I see it, you have unlimited amount of lives. Unlimited opportunities to solve your own murder. So I'm supposed to keep dying until I figure out who my killer is? You want to live to see tomorrow, right?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Okay, I'm excited. fun little 50 cent this looks like fun that's a fun idea yeah groundhog day meets i don't know final destination yeah yeah it's oh it's oh that's exactly what it is groundhog day meets final destination that's exactly right exactly right. Awesome. I nailed it. She nailed it. Meet some kind of like college party movie. Yeah, I didn't know that it was like a sexy co-eds kind of vibe. What are your guys' thoughts on the mask? It's like kind of funny. It's not the scariest mask
Starting point is 00:39:01 I've ever seen, but also... One tooth is funny. One tooth kind of funny. It's not the scariest mask I've ever seen, but also tooth. One single tooth is funny. I mean, I wouldn't want to see it. No, it's certainly scarier when it's on someone chasing you with a knife. Kind of reminds me of like Porky Pig. Yeah, me too. That was my that's what I was thinking. Porky Pig.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But I couldn't remember what the name of that character was porky pig sounds right i mean i immediately knew who you meant yeah and that's i said once to say it again language is only about conveying meaning so it doesn't matter if you said it right you said it wrong if your meaning is conveyed they'll get it and i do feel like this will be one of those moments where joel listening back is going to be like like he wishes he could just tell us as a man he wishes he could tell
Starting point is 00:39:52 us what the right thing is no that's not what I mean I just mean certainly he would know if it's Porky Pig or not but haha he's not here he's going to have to listen back and tell me what it is. And only he can tell us that.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And that's why we love him. But yeah. Okay. This movie's fun. I think we're going to have a good time. You guys ready? I'm excited. To have a good time?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yes. Are you ready for a good time? I'm ready for a good time. It's all I want. It's all I want. Okay, great. Let's do it. So we start. I'm just going to call out that the Universal logo
Starting point is 00:40:30 starts and stops and starts over like three times in a row, which is fun. That is fun. The nature of the movie. And then my TV kept starting, turning off and starting over, which was actually very annoying. And I had to unplug the
Starting point is 00:40:45 tv for a minute and plug it back in and it was fine but just had a real immersive experience your own little 4d yeah exactly okay so we start with her our main character tree her name's Teresa but she goes by Tree waking up in a guy's dorm room she looks hungover makeup is smeared and they're in those like you know extra long twin beds dorm beds remember those XL yeah you have to get the XL sheets
Starting point is 00:41:17 we had to get oh yeah her phone is ringing we see that it has her dad calling her ringtone suggests that it is her birthday. It's a birthday ringtone. You know how everybody changes their ringtone just for their birthday. Oh, absolutely. The night before you go to sleep, especially if you're drunk.
Starting point is 00:41:34 The night before when you go to sleep. You're fully wasted. You've got to change that ringtone. You can't forget. And the guy's room that she wakes up in His name is Carter He seems really cute and sweet and nice She's clearly like disgusted by him
Starting point is 00:41:53 Ew I slept with this dork And so angry that she's waking up In his room Yeah she's a cool girl She's part of a sorority With all the hot girls on campus. I heard her mention in the trailer that everybody on campus knows it's her birthday. She is popular.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So popular. So she leaves his dorm room in a hurry, changes back into her clothes. She's doing a walk of shame in the the her clothes from the night before and as she is walking through campus she is stopped by a girl who asks her if she wants to sign a petition to stop global warming i was triggered by that in what way um just uh how night just do you want to stop global warming i'm sorry what yeah i was gonna ask you guys what are what's your go-to response in those situations because i always say no thank you and it's like so dumb it's such a dumb thing to say oh no thank you i say i always say oh i
Starting point is 00:43:03 can't right now but good luck i say i can't right now but good luck is nice good luck i can't right now but good luck is nice i think i go um no sorry i do no sorry sometimes yeah sorry sometimes i do i pretend i'm on a phone call if i can catch it soon enough i absolutely do a pretend i'm on a phone call yeah that's good they're everywhere in new york so i just say good luck the ones i hate the most are the ones that are like sign this um to put this ballot on the or to put this measure on the ballot and it's like i don't have any researcher background on this who are you i'm not just gonna sign a thing that's like potentially gonna become a law with absolutely no context.
Starting point is 00:43:46 The worst was I once signed because they start off good. They're like, don't you want free, like cheap rent for everybody? I'm like, well, of course I do. I'll sign that. And then they're like, sign our next one. It's higher wages for nurses. I'm like, OK, yeah, I'll sign that. Then it's like, sign this one.
Starting point is 00:44:04 nurses i'm like okay yeah i'll sign that then it's like sign this one we want to um uh what do we call like fire george gascon because he is anti-police i'm like wait wait wait wait what that's related how like and then do a series of physical tests so that when you start the game you'll we'll know exactly how you feel oh god yeah sammy it's all the game oh my god you guys better not do the game to me don't do the game she wants to feel that that thrill of being alive so mad if you guys did the game to me we'll see that would be the ultimate birthday present for Sammy. Sammy who loves a present. If we did the game as the
Starting point is 00:44:49 present for your 50th birthday maybe. Oh you better not. You better not. But okay she signed or she like very rudely says no to this like doesn't even barely acknowledge this woman to sign the sign,
Starting point is 00:45:06 sign the petition. And then a couple is sitting on the grass, the sprinklers turn on, get them all wet. A car alarm starts going off. We see a group of frat guys doing some sort of hazing ritual on the lawn where they've been out there for like 26 hours, but having to like sing the same song over and over. And the one on the end collapses in exhaustion. And she's just witnessing all this. And eventually arrives back at her sorority. And we meet one of the other members of the sorority.
Starting point is 00:45:48 They're called sisters, right? Sorority sisters? Yeah. Yeah. Named Danielle, who's very bitchy. Hey, sometimes that's just the best word. She's not the town bitch. She's the sorority bitch.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Actually, they're all kind of. Sister bitch. Sister bitch. And she's being really judgmental of Tree, being like, you nasty whore. Where have you been all night? And she reminds her that there is a house meeting at lunch tree says she'll be there tree goes up to her room and her roommate lori also makes a comment like look who's decided to roll in and tells her that she was pretty messed up last night dancing on tables. Tree's kind of laughing at this
Starting point is 00:46:45 like she looks embarrassed, but not too much. She's kind of laughing it off. And Lori gives her a cupcake with a little candle on it and says, you know, happy birthday. And Tree takes it, thinks, you know know that's nice but immediately throws it in the trash because this sorority has seemingly an agreed upon enforced eating disorder they're not allowed to eat like any carbs
Starting point is 00:47:16 or sugar or anything and yeah she like throws it in the trash be like nope too many calories well isn't Lori in the sorority too yeah Loriori you dumb bitch you should know follow the rules fucking cupcake follow the eating disorder rules god damn that's so depressing yeah probably a real thing yeah probably uh then she goes to a class she's like late for late for class gets ready real quick goes to this class
Starting point is 00:47:45 and the teacher is talking about the quantum plane and something something about this just really made me laugh and i was like college is so stupid like imagine it's obviously not stupid but like it's so crazy that we took so many classes about shit that Had nothing to do with anything We were ever interested in Or going to be using ever again And it's all gone Like I didn't retain any of that I don't remember a single god damn thing
Starting point is 00:48:16 I just watched You watched it too Sammy the John Early Special and there's one moment Where he talks about He doesn't know anything that happened in history And he just keeps repeating I don't know what happened I don't know what happened
Starting point is 00:48:31 And I Keep repeating that refrain in my head because I'm like I don't know what happened I know I took History classes but I don't Know what happened Yeah it's gone It's a lot it's a lot to remember it's a lot to remember at a time when i was like i'm sorry i can't be bothered
Starting point is 00:48:51 learning ew yeah that's not even true a lot of the time i liked learning but it was just like there's the priority it was really low in terms of like what my brain was going to hold on to. It's just as crazy that we had classes potentially about the quantum plane, but not for taxes. We won't teach you how to do your taxes. No, I don't know much about laws. No, I don't know much about laws. Or even just like what your basic rights are. Yeah. We're losing them left and right.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I don't even know what to fight for. There's no fucking practical classes. I don't ask about laws or my rights almost ever. And we spent five minutes trying to remember the name of Porky Pig. So, I mean. This is why human beings are doomed to fail. We just can't learn from our mistakes And we refuse to
Starting point is 00:49:49 I don't have time to learn from my mistakes You think I have time to learn? I heard, overheard, I told you guys I was texting this to you Two women at the bookstore yesterday And one of them started a sentence with With the state of the ice caps I'm not going to be worrying about She was talking about putting on weight
Starting point is 00:50:07 Which I was also like, yeah, hell yeah But I'm going to start every thought now With the state of the ice caps I just can't be bothered I just can't be bothered With the state of the ice caps I cannot be bothered to remember what happened Yeah, and I think that's just true
Starting point is 00:50:23 I think that's fair But the teacher and tree share this kind of flirty glance where we're like what the hell's going on here older hotter he looks to be in his maybe late 30s but yeah we're gonna like it, it looks like an inappropriate relationship. And so but after class, they have their sorority lunch meeting. My notes just say Danielle being a bitch again. Oh, because this one of the other sorority sisters comes with like a breakfast tray with chocolate milk on it. And this is where we really find out about the rules of this eating disorder where she's like is that chocolate milk you can't have chocolate milk and she says
Starting point is 00:51:09 what i missed breakfast danielle says we all missed breakfast which is just like horrifying uh and as this other sorority sister is like humiliated she gets up with her lunch trade to to walk away all upset and crashes into carter who has come back to return a bracelet to Tree that she left in his dorm room. And everyone is seeing this interaction now and judging her for knowing this huge dork. He's like, again, like perfectly nice guy. Yeah, he is cute and he kind of reminds me of um thomas brody sangster i don't know who that is those are a bunch of sounds that i don't have don't have meaning for me you know him hold on yes thomas brody sangster he's the kid from um
Starting point is 00:52:00 uh love actually that then was in Game of Thrones And Maze Runner Queen's Gambit Who will forever look like he's 11 years old unfortunately Yeah but he's also hot I think he's kind of hot it was upsetting for me To come to that conclusion but in Queen's Gambit
Starting point is 00:52:18 It was Queen's Gambit that did it And he's 31 Or something so it's like it's okay He's 33 I'm sorry he's 31 or something. So it's like it's okay. He's 33. I'm sorry. He's older than me. What the fuck? Yep. Yeah, that is confusing. That's very confusing. It was the fact that him and Keira Knightley
Starting point is 00:52:34 are like the same age. Very confusing. It's what really is deeply upsetting. Yeah, they're like only a couple years apart playing very different ages. He did look like a little baby boy but now he's a man and now he's hot exactly and this guy kind of has his vibe and so she's embarrassed and being an asshole to him like oh i can't believe you would come up to me in front of my sorority sisters to try to return a bracelet to me like you asshole get out of here and she's acting like she doesn't even know him clearly doesn't want to admit that this is the
Starting point is 00:53:11 guy whose room she was in last night so he's once again uh feeling a little burned by her she's being very rude to him and she goes to the hospital on campus. This is where I start getting confused if it's a medical school, because in the hospital, she runs into her roommate, Lori, who is in full scrubs. And she says, I thought you only worked the night shift. She says, I'm doing a double today. I'm like, is this woman a full nurse? No way. That's very confusing.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Why is she working double shifts i mean she's like a medical resident this woman pulling a 60 hour work week surely that's not how that works but i can't say for sure it just bumped me as i was having a hard time figuring out what anyone was uh like i don't know what tree is doing she's taking her quantum plane class anyways whatever so she bumps into laurie and laurie says to her this thing you have going, it could have some pretty serious consequences. We don't know what that means, but... Maybe a relationship with an adult male teacher? So Tree says to her, it's none of your business. It's kind of rude to her about it.
Starting point is 00:54:37 But yes, she goes straight up to that same professor's office. His name is Gregory. professor's office his name is gregory and they start making out close the door and are yeah definitely having an affair and um not too long after she walks in and kisses him there's a knock at the door and they get back to normal. Like, oh, we'll stop. Stop kissing. I'm sitting down. Stop, stop, stop. Stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Stop, stop, stop. No more kissing. And they open the door and it is his wife. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And she looks not pleased that he's in there with the door closed with a young student. So, it's looking suspicious. are closed with a young student.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So it'll look suspicious. But Tree runs out of there like, nice to meet you, and goes home to her sorority, and she's getting ready for a big party that night. Other people in the sorority go earlier,
Starting point is 00:55:40 and so she's walking by herself to the party. It's nighttime. Campus is looking a little spooky and she has to walk through this tunnel to get to where she's going and this tunnel is all under construction there's like blinking orange lights with like uh the like traffic cones blocking it off but i guess this is the fastest way to get there but in the middle of this tunnel is a music box that's playing happy birthday don't go near that yeah she like calls out to see if anyone is around playing a prank on her
Starting point is 00:56:19 she's like okay you guys can come out now very funny haha and the game to me i get it doing the game again and uh as she's in the middle of the tunnel she turns around and sees behind her uh guy in a porky pig porky pig mess oh no it's porky pig and yeah it's it's their mascot actually is the is the babies that's great i love that i love that i think the school's name is bay something and so maybe it's because of that but someone is taunting her in this creepy baby mask she's saying okay you know take the mask off it's's not funny anymore. You're not scaring me. She's being all tough, but we can tell that she is getting a little scared. He's just standing there staring at her. Then he disappears from like goes to the side of the
Starting point is 00:57:17 tunnel out of sight. And she's in the middle of the tunnel and she starts kind of hurrying and walking through to the other end. And as she gets to the other end, he pops out with a knife, stabs her. She dies and wakes up back in bed in the dorm room where she woke up that same morning. Ringtone still changed. Yeah. And it's not actually 50 Cent in the movie But it's another birthday song
Starting point is 00:57:47 Oh, it's not that? No, I must not have been able to get the rights in the movie That's very funny But she wakes up And this second time living this day She kind of goes through it as if she's experiencing deja vu It's like not clear if she's experiencing experiencing deja vu. It's like not clear if she's,
Starting point is 00:58:07 she doesn't really know what's happening. What do you think you would, you would think if that, at what point do you think you'd finally go? Something. I think I would do, I think mine would be immediate because I've never had a dream that feels so real that I've confused it with reality in that way.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Like, I've never lived a full day in a dream that felt real. So I think I would immediately be like, no, I lived a full day yesterday of this same day. I think I pretty quickly, if all the same things were happening, like, because I've had deja vu that's lasted like a few minutes before which always feels really freaky but never more than that and certainly it doesn't i'm not like i just dreamed you know what i mean yeah i think that it would depend on the day because her day is obviously weird because she wakes up in a bed that's not her own. But if I'm waking up in my same bed. It might take you longer. It would definitely take me longer because I would be like not picking up on the fact that it was the same.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Right, right, right. Because it's like often pretty similar. Yeah, true. So should we start doing a crazy thing as soon as we wake up every day to to make sure we know yeah something different every day yeah then you got to keep track of that so good luck and we also have these cultural touch points to tell us that groundhog day is happening to us if we hadn't had the right day we wouldn't know take a little bit longer to figure out what was going on instead you can immediately be like wait a minute yeah yeah i've seen this before.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah. But she's just kind of moving through the day. Like one of the things that she had done was ask for Tylenol because she had a headache and now she, he, she does that again. She's like, can I have some Tylenol? And he's looking in the wrong spot and she goes, it's over there. And he's like, Oh, it's like, you've been here before type of thing so she's having these little moments of remembering she's looking really confused she again gets dressed walks out through the quad and is just looking very like she's remembering it but doesn't know what to make of it. And we jump ahead in the day to when she goes to the Gregory's office and he's expecting that she's coming to make out, which normally she would be, but she seems now like she's trying to ask for some advice on like
Starting point is 01:00:38 something really weird is happening to me. You're maybe a physicist, maybe a doctor. I really can't tell from the scenes that we got your professor, but also there's a scene where you're a doctor and also you're teaching the quantum realm. So I'm not sure what you do, but maybe you could give me some advice about feeling like I'm living the same day again. But before they're able to get to any kind of meaningful discussion about it, the wife comes in and again, catches them in this like weird moment that's awkward for everybody. And she walks out, she goes back to her room and she's watching a video on her phone of her and her mom.
Starting point is 01:01:30 They're celebrating their birthday. They're basically singing happy birthday to us. So we're learning that her and her mom had the same birthday. And we're getting the vibe that maybe her mom is not around anymore, like has died. She's watching it with this kind of sad look on her face and that night she still gets ready for the party and she's walking there alone again down the same path but as soon as she sees the music box in the tunnel and the flashing lights like she's still getting these like stronger and stronger deja vu and And she sees that, turns around and takes a different route to the party. And so she still arrives at the party or no, she arrives at the party.
Starting point is 01:02:11 She's not like going home, but you know, it's a big crowded party, maybe a little safer. And it turns out to be a surprise party for her. And they answered the door in a baby mask. And so it really scares her and she punches the baby mask guy in the face. But it's just her her friend and it just scared her. And she goes up with this guy that she's, I guess, flirted with in the past. But Danielle has a crush on, too. So there's some drama there.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Danielle's looking pissed that she goes up to the room with this guy, Nick. Doesn't really matter, but she's going to go hook up with Nick and he's the one that was in the baby mask when he answered the door. And so we're a little suspicious, but in his room, she, he puts on really loud music and she's facing the other direction. And we see a person in a baby mask come out of the bathroom or something and kill Nick. And she doesn't see it happen and doesn't hear it because the music is so loud. And so then when she turns around, she just sees the baby mask face and thinks that he's put the mask back on. And she's like, oh, you know, don't mess around, Nick. And then she sees Nick's dead body on the ground and they fight. He lunges for her. She's trying to fight back and he smashes a bong and stabs her with the bong kills her wakes up round three she's gasping awake now scared carter is trying to like oh my god are
Starting point is 01:03:55 you okay is everything okay he's a real sweetie shut up loser um she is and she's being really rude to him she says what day is it and he tells her what day it is and she's like this is a fucking nightmare and he's like you wanted to come home you asked to come home with me like i'm sorry and uh she runs out of there real quick before he can she doesn't even get the tile in all this time she just runs straight home past all of the people in the quad and she goes to her room and her roommate again is giving her the cupcake and she's just she's completely freaked out and she's trying to confide in her room she's like i know this sounds crazy but like i've lived this day before like it's a surprise party for me tonight right like and uh whatever that like you guys are gonna like all be there at this house and um her roommate is just saying you know oh man like who told you who ruined the surprise
Starting point is 01:04:53 and she's like no i lived this day before the roommate obviously doesn't believe her but is concerned about her and like are you maybe it also makes a little bit more sense why she would say everybody knows it's my birthday Because they were all told because of the surprise party Yeah true I didn't think about that Everybody knows it's my birthday Why do you think I changed my ringtone
Starting point is 01:05:16 I want everybody to know Her roommate is like Maybe you should skip class It seems like you should maybe rest Lay down like you're not. You should rest. I'm going to go work at Double at the hospital. Why am I working?
Starting point is 01:05:33 What is this? Maybe she's pre-med and that's something you do when you're pre-med. Maybe. I mean, yeah, like a residency or something, but it just, it just doesn't match with everybody else's situation when you see someone when you see someone in scrubs you want to trust them and feel like they're an expert and if they're like a junior in college yeah it's a little alarming that they weren't allowed to wear scrubs they shouldn't be allowed yeah yeah i don't know i don't know how it works but she does seem to be she does seem to have a
Starting point is 01:06:08 little too much like responsibility i think like she's doing a lot of stuff she seems like she's not just you know shadowing someone she's her own agent there in the hospital so anyways she decides to stay home she doesn't go to the party she's boarding up the windows now in their room she's very scared and doesn't know what's happening and she's saying you know like good luck getting in here now she's got the whole she moves a dresser in front of the door she's barricading herself in her room and it's kind of a scary scene that the tv like turns on on its own we get a brief glimpse of a news report saying something about a serial killer tv turns off again it's a creepy little moment and she hears something in the
Starting point is 01:07:00 bathroom and is like approaching the shower curtain about to pull it back she's got like a hammer or something she's got a weapon um but then i think she hears the tv again or something distracts her and she turns around and now she's uh investigating another portion of the room and we see the shower curtain pull back and baby mask is in there she hears it turns around gets a good thwack on the head with the with the hammer to baby mask and thwack a good thwack but uh he gets back up they're wrestling and now she can't get out of the room because she's barricaded herself in too well and so it ultimately ends with her dying again, wakes up again, screaming, terrified. She's now like the world is spinning around her.
Starting point is 01:07:52 She's in like full panic, leaves the room without even changing her clothes. She's now in Carter's like big T-shirt and walking barefoot around campus, looking in a complete daze. Carter chases after her, is like bringing her stuff like, wait, you forgot all your stuff? Like, are you okay? And she's saying something like, so crazy is happening to me. I don't know what's going on. He says, why don't you tell me about it? Like, let's sit down and talk about it. So, they go to a little, the cafeteria or something. And she tells him, she tells him everything that's happened. And he's very sweet about it. He believes her and is trying to help her figure out why this is happening. He's basically asks,
Starting point is 01:08:37 uh, what makes today special? Um, and she says it's her birthday. And he's like, well, that's symbolic. Whoever's doing this knows it's your birthday. And that's when she says, he's like, who knows it's your birthday? And she says, well, everybody knows it's my birthday. And he says something. Oh, he asks who would have motive and they should make a list of anyone who would want to kill her and this list ends up being pretty long because she's quite an asshole to everybody around her there's one person that she's like maybe that uber driver that i spit on which is kind of funny but also like she's just like a real dickhead yeah and she says maybe nick the guy I made out with last night. And Carter looks kind of hurt by this.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Like it must've been before we met. And she says a lot of love that judgment coming from someone who like took home such a drunk girl. And he's like, Oh my God, we did not hook up last night. You just like needed a place to sleep. I just like you slept in my bed. I slept in my roommate's bed. Like nothing happened. And she looks surprised by this. Finding out again, Carter's just a real nice guy. And he says, you know, the way I see it, if you're waking up at the beginning of the day, each time you get murdered, it sounds like you have unlimited chances to solve your own murder and so we go into now a montage where basically she like tags yeah like follows whoever she suspects might be the killer oh that's fun Until the moment of being killed
Starting point is 01:10:25 And that's how she rules them out Like she goes to the Gregory's wife And like is spying on her Yeah I guess that would be your first go to Yeah and then She's killed at her house By someone else And so she's ruling
Starting point is 01:10:40 That's very smart Ruling out people that way And she rules out But it also means you have to get murdered so many times she's getting murdered a lot well you would hope you'd get it right on the on you know the first try she does not but she's able to rule out um the professor his wife danielle she starts having some fun with it she's cutting cutting her hair and dyeing it pink and doing crazy stuff because she's going to
Starting point is 01:11:07 wake up tomorrow and nobody's going to remember. This is also day after tomorrow montage. Tom Cruise at his peak. Edge of tomorrow. Edge of tomorrow. Sorry. I was like, sorry, I'm not familiar. Edge of tomorrow. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Although that, you know, they're not really having as much fun. She's becoming an expert at being murdered. Yeah, you get fucking good at it. There's a time where she struts through campus completely naked just for the hell of it.
Starting point is 01:11:38 And I guess this actress chose to do this actually naked and said it was incredibly liberating. I thought that was interesting. Great. And then it ends again with her just, you know, dying a bunch of times and finish the montage. And as she wakes up the final time, it seems like she's in physical pain. Like this is actually taking a toll on her dying so many times.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And, you know, Carter has no memory of what's happened. So he's obviously rushing to her side to help her because he's so nice. It's like, oh my God, are you okay? And she gets up and just kind of brushing him off and starting to walk out. And as she's walking out, his roommate is coming in. He's always been coming in each time, but she collapses in the roommate's arms and wakes up in the hospital. Her roommate is tending to her, doing open heart surgery on her. Commanding the whole hospital. It's Gregory, which I'm like, wait, Gregory's a doctor now? I just don't understand.
Starting point is 01:12:44 What is this man's specialty? I really... And he's showing her her scans. It's the same day. It's just like that later that evening. And he's showing her scans and showing that she has like major signs of trauma and she should be dead. Okay, so it's not without consequence, dying over and over and over again. Yeah, so maybe we got times running out.
Starting point is 01:13:04 We want to actually figure this out sooner than later. Don't know how many lives we've got left. And so Gregory leaves, and she's trying to sneak out of the hospital, because obviously she doesn't have time to sit around in a hospital bed. Also, she's a sitting duck. And the hospital's pretty empty. It's nighttime and this is a school.
Starting point is 01:13:31 And it's a school. Yeah. What is this hospital? Who works here? Just Lori and Gregory. The physics professor? Or the student and the physics professor? And he also takes his student meetings up here. And we also takes his student meetings Up here and We've got a girl working a double
Starting point is 01:13:48 And then going to a birthday party And so she sees Gregory in the hallway And as he's Turning to her like are you okay Baby mask appears behind him Stabs him kills him Chases her into a parking garage, which is also kind of a scary scene.
Starting point is 01:14:10 A little cat and mouse, her hiding behind the like cement. What do you call columns? And trying to get she has she has Gregory's car keys and she's trying to get to his car and it's tense is she gonna make it he's right on her heels and she does she makes it and speeds out of the parking lot and is going so fast being like i made it i did it ha ha fuck you baby mask guy and then we see police uh siren and lights going off behind her she's being pulled over for speeding she's like oh fuck fuck fuck but then as she's talking to the cop she realizes he he asks if she's uh under the influence or has done any drugs tonight and she
Starting point is 01:15:00 kind of has a light bulb moment of if i say i did does that mean you take me into prison into custody where i will be like monitored and locked in a in a room and he's like yeah that's right and she's like yeah yeah i'm drunk i'm on drugs like i did it all i did it all like hops out of the car puts her hands behind her back to like help him arrest her she's like yep let me do it he handcuffs her puts her in the back of the cop car and as which handcuffed is not a great way not a great way to be when you're running from a serial killer and uh as And as the cop closes the door and is about to get back into the car, another car speeds by and kills him, runs the cop over. And then out of that car comes Baby Mask and taunts her a little bit like he's walking up to the window and she's screaming. She obviously can't get out, can't do anything. to the window and she's screaming she obviously can't get out can't do anything and he notices that uh when he crashed into he like half crashed into the car and the cop and hit the gas tank so
Starting point is 01:16:15 all this gas is pouring out of the car so he holds up a little birthday candle and drops it in the gasoline. Car explodes. She wakes up again. Oh, boy. Now she's a little jaded. She's looking like she gets up and helps herself to the Tylenol, which is in like a very specific spot underneath clothes and in like a in a bag. And he's like, Carter's seeing this like, the fuck how do you know where my tylenol is and she it like doesn't have the energy to explain it to him she's just like like forgot it
Starting point is 01:16:56 bye he follows her out and is concerned about her and it's like what's going on are you okay she's just like yeah it's just that like i've lived this day so many times like i don't know what the fuck's going on and he says what do you mean you've lived this day before and she basically calls out each thing as it happens that we've seen she's like here comes the person for the global warming thing sprinklers are gonna turn on car alarm that guy's falling over and he's watching her predict all these things right before they happen he clearly again believes her and they go to he's like okay let's go um talk about this again so they go to now a diner and he's asking her more questions about, um, like this day and what
Starting point is 01:17:49 makes this day special. She's getting another missed call from her dad. He's, um, this has also happened every time he, she gets like a second missed call from the dad. She's ignoring his calls. Uh, he says like, do you want to answer that call from your dad? And she's like, no, I'm supposed to be at lunch with him right now. So no, I don't want to answer it because I don't want to see him. And he asks about her mom, like, well, where's your, where's your mom? And we find out she has died and they had the same birthday. And so it's just like a really weird day between her and her dad. And she's like, I don't want to deal with that. It's all really fucking sad. Or no, she says like, we pretend everything's fine and that like it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:18:30 And I just can't deal with that right now. And I don't want to do that. So I'm not going to do that. And she's like feeling really sad and defeated. And she's saying like, I don't even think my mom would be proud of me. Like I'm not a good person and maybe this is all karma and maybe I deserve it. And he's very encouraging and says, you know, each new day is a chance to be somebody better. And maybe this is like an opportunity for you to like, learn more about yourself and learn how to be better and she
Starting point is 01:19:07 tells him that she knows that she's keeps getting weaker each time she's like i feel like i'm getting weaker and i don't know when i'm gonna die at that moment on the tv in the diner the news report comes on of the serial killer we see that his previous victims all kind of look the same as tree. Like that's his typical victim. And she has a moment of realization when she sees him that he's in the hospital on campus for some reason. the fuck is he there because we've seen a cop like guarding a hospital room so wait they've caught the serial killer yes that's what the news report is saying like he's in their custody on the college campus with all the young women maybe
Starting point is 01:20:03 it's not on campus which is even weirder if she's just like working shifts At like an actual hospital At a regular hospital And the professor's just working both at the college And the local hospital I was really confused by this I just couldn't make heads or tails of it Maybe it's just like a small town
Starting point is 01:20:19 And this is the only hospital to bring this guy to Yeah, maybe I don't know. Yeah, but she has this moment of realization. He's been here the whole time. I know what I have to do. And she goes back to that hospital. And she's like telling the nurses, like, call the police.
Starting point is 01:20:40 He's going to get out. He's going to escape. But she's a little bit too late. He does get out he's gonna escape but she's a little bit too late he does get out and he has he like gets a gun off of the cop that's guarding the door and he kills one of the nurses and kills the other the cop and he's pursuing her and he's like about to kill her and as he does carter runs out like he's followed them and he knocks, knocks him over and is like trying to fight him. But baby mask guy. And is he wearing he's is he wearing the baby mask?
Starting point is 01:21:15 Yes. Yes. But he takes it off at some point and we see that it is the serial killer guy. I can't remember exactly when he takes it off, but this is the reveal like it is him. guy i can't remember exactly when he takes it off but this is the reveal like it is him and carter is like trying to fight him but baby mask guy kills carter he like snaps his neck it's a gnarly um way to kill someone and immediately keeps chasing tree she's like running into uh the bell tower it is on campus that's's that's on campus great okay why are they keeping a fucking serial killer in a campus hospital with one security guard watching the door it's so weird
Starting point is 01:21:55 that's very weird where does it take place like what does it say an actual campus? No, I didn't. I didn't notice. But so she's she actually gets the upper hand now in their fight. She has either the gun or a hammer again or something that she gets like a really good hit on him. And it's like she has she has a moment where she can kill him. But then she realizes Carter is dead. And he'll stay dead. Yeah, if she kills him now, Carter won't come back. There's no chance for Carter to survive. And so she drops her weapon and runs up to the top of the bell tower.
Starting point is 01:22:41 The killer is chasing her and she grabs a noose and why is there a fucking noose at this bell tower? There's a lot of things happening. There's a pre-made noose. There's a noose just waiting at the top of the bell tower. A pre-made noose.
Starting point is 01:22:59 A bell tower that seemingly anyone can climb to the top of. What the fuck is going on in this cage? What is this place? I love that you're also realizing this in real time. Wait, what is it? What is that? What the hell?
Starting point is 01:23:20 It's the magic of movie making. They're like, no one will notice. No one will notice. And then I guess maybe there's just a noose up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's stuff. There's no noose up there for bell tower stuff. Yeah, pulling the bell, making a noose.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she says to the serial killer, see you later, asshole. And hangs herself and wakes up back at the phone ringing dad calling. It's her birthday again. Okay. Now she's feeling herself. She's got a plan.
Starting point is 01:23:53 She's being nice to Carter. And she's like, today's the day, buddy. Like, we got this. She gives him a hug. He's looking very surprised by this. And she's like, she says, like, I'll i'll see you later like let's let's i'll see you at lunch or whatever she goes uh down the campus quad she signs that petition to stop global warming she says save that planet girl you got this and she's warns the couple about
Starting point is 01:24:21 the sprinkler sprinklers are about to come on. Careful. She's grabbed a pillow from Carter's room, and she sets it right where the last little frat guy is going to collapse on the ground. Cute. Man, Grand Rock Day is a great movie. She's writing all of her wrongs. And she goes to Lori, and she apologizes for being a really bad roommate. She says, I've been a horrible roommate to you and I'm sorry. And Lori looks very surprised by this and hands her the cupcake. And it's like, oh, thanks for saying that.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Like, happy birthday. That's nice of you. And it's a, oh, thanks for saying that. Like, happy birthday. That's nice of you. And it's a nice moment between them. And then she goes to the hospital to talk to Gregory. And she breaks up with him. And she says, this isn't right. You have a wife. You should at least have the decency to get a divorce.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And then at lunchtime, at the lunch meeting where Danielle's being a bitch, she takes that sorority sister who has the chocolate milk that is really being frowned upon. She grabs it. She dumps it on Danielle's head. Carter walks up at that moment to bring her back her bracelet. She kisses Carter in front of everybody. Wow. Great, great, great, great. Love it. Love it. Everything is going so smoothly. And then she goes to lunch with her dad, which she has been avoiding but has been scheduled. He looks surprised that she's decided to show up.
Starting point is 01:26:13 a probably long overdue real talk about the loss of her mom and his wife. And she says all her true feelings about it for the first time. And it's just like, I miss her so much. And like, this day is really hard for me. And I know it's really hard for you too. And I, um, like, I'm sorry that I've been icing you out. It's just like, this is it's cause it's too painful. And I feel like if I let it in, like that hurt is something I just don't want to experience. And it's this very cathartic conversation. He cries, she cries, and they are like holding hands and it's very sweet she's learned so much she really has one day over and over and over a million times and so she leaves that lunch and is now getting ready for her little final showdown with this serial killer. And she has the dumbest fucking plan of how to approach this.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I couldn't believe it. So she waits till, first of all, like nighttime when it's supposed to happen. When it's like, why not get into gear here a little earlier? There's no reason. Right, right. Let's get him when he's in the hospital room. We couldn't, yeah, do this first thing. Let's get into gear here a little earlier? There's no reason. Right. Right. Let's get him when he's in the hospital room. We couldn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Do this first thing. Let's get into gear. Yeah. Yeah. She waits till nighttime again and she sneaks into the hospital and she holds a knife to the security guard's throat. No. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I was like, what in what world is this the plan that you arrived at? So stupid. And she says, stay in what world is this the plan that you arrived at? So stupid. And she says, stay calm, stay calm, stay calm. Like the man in there is going to he's going to get out and he's going to kill people. So I need you to call and get back up. And she takes his gun from him and he has got his hands up like, OK, OK, OK, like I'll go get back up. And he runs. But it's just like the crate so
Starting point is 01:28:06 now she is facing this serial killer alone was she trying to to save this guy's life like you get out i guess but it's also like yeah you do genuinely need help i guess she knew no one would believe her if she like tried to tell i guess well and also like so now if all goes to plan and you survive you'll still have put a knife to a guy's throat that feels like a consequence that will be dealt with not in this movie so the so she's alone now in in the room with the serial killer. He's like in a hospital bed and she's like, I know you're awake. I know you're not actually asleep. He wakes up. She pulls the trigger on the gun at the safety's on.
Starting point is 01:28:56 She didn't know that. And he like hits it out of her hand. He's like safety's on little girl taunting her and they get in a fight again. And he's got the upper hand. She's got the upper hand. She's got the upper hand. It's going back and forth. We don't know what's going to happen. But eventually she gets the gun back and she shoots him a whole bunch of
Starting point is 01:29:13 times, kills him. And then we just cut right back to her sorority room. And now she's like sitting crisscross applesauce across from Carter and they're sharing the cupcake. It's like, as if you could just leave a crime scene where you have murdered someone and make it back in time for
Starting point is 01:29:30 cupcakes with your new friend there's just a lot of things in this script that are really just out of convenience we'll just jump we'll just jump to the nice little moment let's not deal with the murder and the holding a knife to a cop's throat. Let's just say she's fine. She got away with that. It's all good. Very bizarre. So she's sharing her celebratory cupcake.
Starting point is 01:29:56 She did it. She killed the serial killer. It's all, everything's going to be great now. Except for all the traumatic wounds she has inside of her. Right. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the long term effects of that is going to be. But they basically share this cupcake and cut to black.
Starting point is 01:30:19 And she wakes up in that dorm room again with a birthday ringtone back to square one and now she's really panicking she's like what the fuck is going on runs out of the room runs through the quad she gets back to her room
Starting point is 01:30:41 Lori offers her the cupcake again and she says no thanks I already had it last night room, Lori offers her the cupcake again and she says, no thanks, I already had it last night. And then a little light bulb goes off and she's like, I died in my sleep after eating that cupcake.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And she turns to Lori and she says, you fucking poisoned that cupcake. That's fine. Lori looks kind of guilty. Like, what the fuck? How did she know that?
Starting point is 01:31:12 But she's like, that's insane. Like, you're being crazy. I would never do that. How would why would I poison a cupcake? And she's like, all right, take a bite of it then to have a bite of that cupcake. And she won't do it. And she's like, I take a bite of it then to have a bite of that cupcake and she won't do it and she's like oh i'm gonna take it to the police and i bet they'll be able to analyze what's in this cupcake and laurie lunges at her and attacks her and is like slamming her head into the wall and what she's like what laurie is like out for blood going on and she didn't have to work a double no wonder that makes sense
Starting point is 01:31:48 she's not a doctor oh my god and she's a chemist she makes poisons she has so much time on her hands and we get a also pretty dumb reveal here that lori is also having an affair with gregory and she's so jealous that gregory likes tree more she's driven mad by her jealousy enough to poison someone enough to poison her roommate and we're having the moment of like revealing all that's happened and tree saying i never ate the cupcake before. So you had to come up with an alternative and you had the serial killer right in your grasp because you work at that hospital. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:32:36 And you knew he would be, he would be the like prime suspect for my murder. And so you just let him like undid his restraints in his hospital bed and we see her going back in time undoing those restraints it's just a crazy again this like doesn't make sense did she tell him on the serial killer to go after the kill you yeah and to go after the other girl like like as if he's like your fucking either they would have had to have a conversation of like hey i'll let you go if you kill this one person for me or she's leaving it up to which yeah that would be assuming he's not going to kill her in that moment which is a huge risk and then yeah the
Starting point is 01:33:18 alternative is just like leaving it up to chance well hope he finds tree and kills her that looks like the person he likes to kill. Or is she stealing his mask and going to kill Tree? No, it's been him every... I feel like it's been him every time. Okay, so convenient for her. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so quite an unexpected reveal there.
Starting point is 01:33:42 That doesn't make a ton of sense, nope doesn't really matter i guess they get in more of a fight and tree shoves the cupcake in her mouth ah laurie's panicking trying to spit it out and it's kind of stumbling backwards to the to the window tree looks up and sees a chandelier jumps and grabs the chandelier and swings and kicks lori out of the like top floor window of the sorority and she lands on the ground head explodes she like it's really a violent death now you just killed someone this is like so crazy and again it's like we don't spend any time with the police talking about this crime scene that just happened it basically just goes back to her being with
Starting point is 01:34:35 carter and he's like oh like i'm so glad you're okay though we do actually see like a news reporter in it it does i guess more than before show that um some amount of attention is being paid to these events that are happening um but she has like a nice uh moment with carter where he's saying like i guess you'll need a place to crash tonight because your house is a crime scene now. And he's like, you can spend the night at my place if that's not too triggering for you. She says, I'd love to. And they go back to his house or his room and they fall asleep and she wakes up and it's a birthday ringtone. And she didn't change it back no she's like wakes up and he
Starting point is 01:35:28 he's been having saying the same thing every morning like like oh you're awake i didn't know if you wanted to sleep in so he says that and uh she starts like screaming and he like pulls out his phone he's like haha i'm just kidding it me calling you. And he's like fucking with her. I was like, so he is an asshole after all. Too soon. Too soon. And she thinks it's a hilarious prank. And they start kissing and wrestling.
Starting point is 01:35:58 And they're having a good old time. Oh, an early morning wrestle. Oh, my God. This is really a rom-com at its core. Wow. I loved it. I was on the edge of my seat. I mean, I had a fun time.
Starting point is 01:36:14 It's fun. Me too. I actually really like, I love a Groundhog story. I love it when people become experts. I love it when people know what's going to happen. Yeah, it is. The scene I feel like that's so fun is when she's's like sprinklers, car alarm, this, this, this. Yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Those are always the fun scenes. But yeah, I had a good time and I am curious about the sequel. I don't care about the hospital on campus. I don't care about the inconsistencies. I don't care about the news. Who cares? I'm curious about the sequel, too. Yeah, maybe we'll? Who cares? I'm curious about the sequel too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Maybe we'll do it one day. I do want to know. Yeah. I want to know about Happy Death Day to you. To you. Yeah. How is it going to happen again?
Starting point is 01:36:54 That's. That. Is it the same cast? It's crazy. Yeah. I think it is. I think it is the same cast. I really like the main.
Starting point is 01:37:01 That would really suck to have that happen again. That would really suck. That would suck. i kept saying that honestly not to bring up the game again uh i kept saying every single time a new thing would happen i was like this would suck and i was just like this sucks so much. This sucks so bad. Don't do the game to me, you guys. The game sucks.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Don't do it to me. Any listeners who haven't seen the game, watch it immediately. That's really funny for someone to stop and be like, wait, am I being the gamed? Am I being the gamed? Am I being the gamed? Am I being the gamed right now? Yeah, the game would suck. Totally suck. The game sucks.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Not the movie The Game, which rules, but the game, the game. The game, the game. Don't do it to us, you guys. Don't do it. Listeners, don't you dare. Don't you dare do the game to us. Don't do the. Don't the game. Listeners, don't you dare. Don't you dare do the game to us. Don't do the game to us. Oh my God. I also wouldn't want to be death-dayed.
Starting point is 01:38:12 I would not want to be death-dayed. It's also funny that in the final day she doesn't do all those nice things. But I guess she can then go back and do them because now she's not going to be dead. Yeah. She'll have a new Outlook on life
Starting point is 01:38:27 She's going to be a better person forever New outlook on life She's also taken a life so perhaps more Respect for the circle Of things Perhaps fingers crossed I thought the main actress Was really good in this Jessica Roth
Starting point is 01:38:43 And I have not ever seen her in anything else i mean she's in happy death day to you to you but yeah i liked her i liked it i think this is a pretty easy one if you're a scaredy cat i think you can probably handle it there are a couple tense scenes like the parking garage scene is a little scary and there's those like slashery type scenes but it's all the tone is mostly very fun and light and so i'd say if you're if you're up to it i think it's a good time what's scarier happy death day or the game which would you rather live through no which movie is scarier oh uh probably the game honestly the game was scary i'm saying because the game is very real scary i thought it was scary but i also think i'd rather live through the game because i don't want to die a whole bunch of times
Starting point is 01:39:43 no i wouldn't want to die but oh but living through the game would also be it would suck it would suck so bad but then wouldn't you be so happy at the end when didn't you have so much appreciation for your life yeah i guess you're saying thank you thank you thank. I guess they really they really don't address and happy death day her traumatic internal injuries. Also, we were talking about I was talking about with our friend Stephanie friend of the pod Stephanie
Starting point is 01:40:16 Albala and not to exclude her husband Josh, who's also a friend. Hello, Josh. And not to exclude Joel, who was also there. Hi, Joel. We were discussing Who might be A modern day Michael Douglas
Starting point is 01:40:29 Who could do The game Now Which again I know is not the movie We've covered today And we landed on And tell me if you think
Starting point is 01:40:40 That we're right Because I think that we are Jeremy Allen White Oh Yeah I think that we are. Jeremy Allen White. Oh, yeah, I like that. But he's got to be older is the problem. We're trying to find who like who's the millennial Michael Douglas. And I think I think I think he could do it. I think he carries the same coldness, the same gravitas.
Starting point is 01:41:06 He is sexy, but not pretty. Yeah, I like this. And he's a short king. They also do kind of look similar. Yeah, and I'd like to see him in a suit. Would love to see him in a suit. Get him out of that chef outfit. Get him out of it.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Get him out of it. Put him in a suit. So anyway, that show put him in a suit um so anyway that's that once again not the movie we've discussed today just the one i can't stop thinking about i mean it's a great one now you understand but it's another birthday movie so now everybody has sort of on theme we've got two true birthday movies options i'm really tying it all together but there's not really any voices in this movie what does porky pig say is either that's all folks guy? Maybe No I think Bugs Bunny says that Or I don't know
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