Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HELL HOUSE LLC with Betsy Sodaro

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Clown mannequins, confident men with cameras, and a situation in which a 40 minute commute might be the best option - we're recapping Hell House LLC! We are joined by horrorspondent Betsy Sodaro (A Funny Feeling, We Love Trash, Poorly Drawn Lines) to discuss the scariest possible haunted house. Recap begins @ 25:33 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. And Sammy's not here this week. It's just a gaping hole in the intro.

I mean... It's a gaping hole in the intro. I don't know how to, like, handle it, honestly, when one of you is gone. It's just too much for my soul to bear yeah we're gonna we're having a hard time um she'll be back she'll be back she's just fine sometimes everybody needs a little break and we support that of course we support that um but other than the gaping hole hen how are you What's up? What's up with me this week? Well, the only thing I wanted to talk about this week is the fact that, as we know, we are entering a colder season.

And I just want to give a little product. We're entering the coldest season. That's an excellent point. And I just wanted to give a little product recommendation. So I have been wearing like the same leggings from Athleta. Okay, I'm writing. Yeah, write this down. Okay, so these leggings are I think they're called Polartec something. I should probably have looked up the name of the product before giving this product recommendation. think they're called Polartec something. I should probably have looked up the name of the product before giving this product recommendation, but they're from the brand Athleta and my mom

had bought them and recommended them to me. And so then I purchased them as well and they are the comfiest fucking things I've ever put on my body in my entire life. They are pristine. 10 out of 10. Recommend. I now have three pairs. I'm thinking of buying more so I can only wear these pants every day. Fuck yeah.

Every day of the week. So basically, they are just like normal leggings, but the inside has polar tech on them. And it feels like you're simultaneously naked and warm at the same time. That's the dream. It's crazy how comfortable they are. To be naked and warm at the same time is all anyone could want. My mind is blown and I don't know how to wear normal pants again. I don't think I can.

Oh, shit. my mind is blown and I don't know how to wear normal pants again. Like, I don't think I can after, after, you know, like COVID after being pregnant, after like, just, I just think that I can't go back to anything that has like a button. I like need to just wear soft pants forever.

And these are like, honestly amazing. And I just want anyone to know out there, like they exist and like, you can, you can go buy them. And I, amazing. And I just want anyone to know out there like they exist and like you can go buy them. And I. Wow. Honestly, like they're so good. They're I'm not overhyping this. They are amazing. I believe you. They're amazing. I will. I'm going to buy. OK, great.

And I'll I'll let you know. OK, great. I'm going to buy. Good, good. That's all I wanted to talk some. Okay, great. And I'll let you know. Okay, great. I'm going to buy them. Okay, good. Good. That's all I wanted to talk about. That's it. That's just my little product recommendation of the week. That's great.

I'm going to do... Okay, I'm going to do a product deferral. What's the opposite of recommendation? Product cancellation. A product... I'm going to do a product cancellation. I'm going to do a product I'm gonna do a product cancellation I'm gonna do a product cancellation and that product

is Bud Light Seltzer Fall Ew Wait what is this? I have a feeling we're gonna hear more about this in a second but I'm gonna go ahead and let you guys know if you see if you

ever were in a store and you saw Bud Light make seltzer, and you were intrigued by that, first of all, tell me more about you. But then if you saw, and it's fall flavors. Okay. What does that mean, a fall flavor? Is it like apple? That means. Pumpkin?

It means pumpkin spice. Okay? It means pumpkin spice. Disgusting. That makes sense, right? Pumpkin spice. It's already gross, though. It means apple crisp. Sure, sure, sure. Still sort of makes sense. It means maple pear. No, thank you. We're getting a little iffy. We're getting iffy. And it means toasted

marshmallows. Toasted marshmallows. Seltzer. Yummyeltzer yummy in my tummy and they're not good they're not good which is surprising to hear I'm sure they taste like drinking candles is how I describe it and sort of feels like it

you get a sort of oily sensation in your mouth and not like a good candle either like a yankee candle it, like a Yankee candle, like the bad smelling Yankee. Yes, it's like a Yankee candle. Yeah. It's like a Yankee candle. It's like drinking a Yankee candle. And Bud Light, I'm sorry any representatives from Bud Light listening to the pod. So many. I love where

you're going with it. And here's the thing, it is fun. And I had fun sampling them, trying to find ways to make them good. Again, I bet you're going to hear more about this in a second. But just, you know, they don't taste good is the thing. So we're all looking for more fall fun that, you know, I would maybe go another direction with your beverage choices.

So you buy the leggings, you don't buy the seltzer. That's our recommendation for this week. Good. That's so. Thank God. I mean, toasted marshmallow. My interest is peaked, obviously. Look, I get it.

I understand why your interest is peaked. And look, I'm not even saying I actually am not even saying you shouldn't buy them because you you do want to know. I'm just saying you won't like them. you you do want to know i'm just saying you won't like them you should try them you won't like this reminds me of a skit that just came out that um that new comedy group please may destroy i think that's their name it's the three guys and they're now writing for snl and they're making short videos for them. They just did a skit. They just did a skit that's literally about this. And it's about how I mean, I can't I'll describe this kid to you.

It won't be funny hearing it from me. You should just look it up. But basically, the whole joke is like Chiffy Lube is making seltzer like your desk is making seltzer. Everyone's making everyone's making seltzer. And it's and what their argument is, that it's actually delicious surprisingly delicious well um everyone is making seltzer for sure and everyone is like people go crazy for theme shit yeah you know like honestly now that i'm thinking about it i'm surprised that one of these flavors isn't like candy corn you know what i mean like and there probably is a candy corn seltzer probably um probably it's like the exact combination of our brains right now which is like seltzer and and uh

something fun pumpkin spice latte fall chris like it's like would we have all these seltzers were it not for a pandemic i don't know actually were we having seltzers were it not for a pandemic? I don't know, actually. Were we having seltzers like this before the pandemic? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know. They're capitalizing off of LaCroix's massive success. And then what's the obvious one? The one that everyone makes fun of?

The hard seltzer. The original hard seltzer. Oh, wow. I'm blanking on its name. Oh, White Claw. White Claw. There you go. There you go. There you go. So, Emily, you kept saying that we might be hearing more about this seltzer soon.

I did keep saying that. I did keep saying that. Okay, so another thing I did this week. I'm having the most spooktacular October I've ever had in my life. I'm going hard on spooky season. And one of the things that I have done is watched this week's scary movie, which is scary, you guys. I was scared. I screamed. I'm going to tell you about it.

There are parts that I didn't look at and had to be told immediately after. Okay, what just happened? Because I was scared. And I did. I watched this movie after sipping some false seltzers with a very special guest. Also, this is, if you're on our Patreon,

this is a video episode, so you've been spending this whole time being like, I know, I see her. She's right there. She's literally right there. Why are you ignoring her? She's right there. We couldn't let spooky season go by without bringing back the queen of the scare. Our very

lovely correspondent, Betsy. Oh! Betsy! Boo! Boo! Bets, wow. So happy to have you here. Betsy and I watched this movie last night.

Joel was also there in case you guys want the full picture we drank uh nasty seltzers um betsy how you doing you did that was you nailed it with the seltzers of like don't not buy it go out and try it you will be forced to buy a 12 pack so you will then of these seltzers that you do not want. But they're very fun to introduce to people and friends being like, I have this weird thing. You want to try it? And everybody's like, of course I got to try it. You got to try it.

I forgot to mention the cans are plaid. They're great looking cans. What a vibe. Yeah. It's a strong vibe. Yeah. It's a strong vibe. We did.

Yeah. So we're like, OK, we'll do a little taste test. We'll try all four. And I was pouring in our in our cups and the first flavor I poured a decent amount. And every final flavor was like a drop. I was like, OK, we cannot possibly drink. And then we tried mixing whiskey, which which didn't really help we really thought it would help it did not because there is

something yeah oily just something where it's just like this my body doesn't want this in me yeah that's not good like you're not even describing the actual taste you're describing the texture and like the whole point

is the texture is supposed to be good. That's why some people are into seltzer. So the fact that they didn't nail the texture is like a problem. It's weird. It's weird but again, you should try it. Okay, so if you guys had to

pick a favorite, who won the taste test? Was there a winner? Oh lord. Joel really liked maple pear, Lord. Joel really liked maple pear. Yeah, Joel really liked maple pear. That's so funny. I'm trying to think like if I had to drink

a whole one, like if there was a gun to my head and I had to drink a whole can of it, I guess I would do either pumpkin or apple. I think I would do either pumpkin or apple. I think that I could hit maybe. Yeah, I think I would do

pumpkin, which is surprising. You think the apple, would they be able to nail at least the apple? You know, you would think that would be manageable. And it does start to be like, oh, this tastes very cidery or whatever. But then that weird I don't know how to weird I don't know how to

just I don't know. It's like the mouthfeel. Yeah, the mouthfeel is just like Yeah, and so they're also sugar-free. Forgot to mention. Sugar-free, but sweet. So it's also doing

that very like aspartame-y thing in your mouth where you're like ah this tastes like my body is rejecting it as it's happening yeah and your teeth are just coated immediately fun fact that we learned and explored while drinking these is that you get more drunk faster when you are drinking an alcoholic beverage mixed with a sugar-free beverage. So any diet sodas or something like this that's like sugar-free because your body breaking down sugar slows down the alcohol absorption into your bloodstream. So also, I feel like we were barely drinking these things and we were like, are we drunk?

So also keep that in mind that these are like bad for you in every way yeah especially after we added the whiskey i was like i think i'm like kind of hammered okay it was very weird it was a very weird experience try it give it a shot you guys are really convincing everyone to try it you're doing a great job once again you will end up you will end up with 12, so have a plan. Have a plan for what this is. It truly is like you open it, you take a sip, you're like, ooh, I get it. I'm

done. No thanks. I don't need any more. I still have four in my fridge. And we dumped most of the four that we all, three of us, tried and drank. I felt like a lot. Those four on your page are going to be there

next summer and you're going to be like, ah, fuck, these are still in here. And they're fall themed too, so it's like extra weird that they're still there. Right. No, I'm going to pawn them off on everybody who comes in. Be like, just try it. Just have a sip. Just have a sip. And then throw it away. I don't care.

Amazing. Yeah. So give them a shot they're nasty but weird but fun and folly but nasty but give them a shot but nasty yeah can't wait can't wait to see what the christmas theme ones are because you know they're going to be some christmas there's going to be like eggnog i'm terrified and once again i will buy a 12 pack you'll be like what is christmas tree flavor yeah christmas tree i'll talk to y'all in six weeks about uh here's what we were guessing eggnog christmas tree for sure uh candy cane and maybe like hot chocolate like gingerbread gingerbread's going to be a gingerbread one. That's absolutely happening. Mm-hmm. Whoa.

Maybe Christmas tree is out of there, I guess. Yeah, maybe we should have gingerbread for Christmas tree. Yeah, yeah. People don't want to drink Christmas tree. Weird. Or they just went balls to the walls and they did like pot roast. I was going to say like Christmas ham. Weird. Or they just went balls to the walls and they did pot roast and wrapping paper. Santa's beard.

I just said Santa's beard was the next thing that popped into my head. Why is that? I was going to say Santa's beard. It really tastes like Santa's beard. A company should just go fucking crazy with that.

We'll circle back on this in Christmas. I bet they're making it right now. They're in the lab. They're absolutely in the lab being like, ah, it's candy cane! Yeah, they're absolutely. We need to talk about this movie,

but real quick, this just reminds me of how there are people whose job it is to like taste these things you know what i mean and like how does one get that job and like what does that look like and like i'd like to try that what is rejected do you know what i mean how, like I think these things taste bad. And so like, I'm really wondering what the process is of being like, this is as good as it's going to get. Do you know what I mean?

Like, and then what is rejected and how do they do it? Are they scientists? They're definitely science. Well, the people who are putting it together are scientists. The making are scientists, but like,

who are the tastes? I think they're just like normal people. Right? They probably just do focus groups, and it's probably different groups that rank as high. It's probably not a few people's job. How fun if that was your job every day of the week, just being like,

what are we trying today? Okay, great. You'd probably get really ill. I imagine you'd be like the super-size-me guy at the end of the doc where you're like, this was just to destroy my body. You know? Well, they also probably don't. They don't actually, like, eat it or swallow

it. You know what I mean? They're like sommeliers. They just, like, spit. Spit buckets. Pretty gross. It gets pretty gross the more you think about it. So let's stop thinking about it, actually. You started it. You started it, Nazdy. You started it. Guilty, guilty as charged. I know. I'm gonna do some

serious Googling though afterwards. I will need to know more. Yeah, keep us posted. Keep us posted. Well, okay. Should we talk about this movie? I think we should. Alright, this makes movie. It's been requested.

It's one of the first i think the first time we had you on betsy you were like you guys heard of this movie um yeah and this movie is hell house llc it's a really great movie with a funny name it's so funny everything about this movie i'll give you the stats but this, I was just describing it this morning to Joel. We were talking about it. I was like, it's like it is as bad as a movie called Hell House LLC. Like it does all the things that you'd think it does. It's like a VOD movie.

The acting's not great. It's some stuff is like it looks like it. The budget's not huge. And also it's very scary, very effective and a fucking great idea. It's awesome. It like does also really work. They nailed it. I'm so amped to hear about it. It's been requested by a bunch of

people. Nailed it. They nailed it and it is really scary and also funny. It's just like, man, I had a blast and like I said, I got scared. It is. It's exactly just a man, I had a blast and like I said, I got scared. It is. It's exactly just a pure blast that is legit scary. It's so

fun. Legit scary. It came out in 2015 and 2016. It went to Telluride Horror Festival in 2015 then VOD in 2016. It's a crisp

83 minutes. Perfect. So good. Love an 83 minute movie. Especially a scary movie like Get Me In and Out. Yeah, that's great. I think every movie should be 83 minutes or less. Every single one of them.

I can't tell you. They're all way too long. Way too long. Also, like, there's, like, an episode of TV is almost, like, 80 minutes now. Yeah, I mean, like, it's, like, TV is getting to be, like, now, like, I can sit for 80 minutes. You know? Right. I can do it.

I can do it. I can't tell you how many times I've been trying to find a movie to watch, and it's, like, 9.30, and I'm, like, well, I can't watch a two-and-a-half-hour movie right to watch and it's like 930. And I'm like, well, I can't watch a two and a half hour movie right now. Like I couldn't possibly. But then it's like, well, I guess I just don't watch a movie because there are none. Well, this is one that you can watch. Hell House LLC. Hell House LLC.

It is written and directed by Stephen Cognetti. Starring Ryan Jennifer, Danny Bellini, Gore Abrams, Jared Hacker, Adam Schneider, and Alice Belkin. Nice. Yeah. It also has two sequels now.

There are three Hell House movies, right? Yes. Or what? The third is coming out? No, there's a third. It's out. And I think I've watched them.

I would be shocked if you hadn't. I definitely have seen two, and I think I gave three a shot, too. Okay. I'm going to look them up, because now I'm curious where the story goes from here. I'm going to guess it's like a prequel situation. No, maybe not. I don't know.

I guess I'll find out. It has a 75% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's really good. 6.4 on IMDb. couldn't find a Metacritic And I couldn't find a budget Neither could they So we don't have It's found footage

I love it Presented like a documentary style Yep And yeah I was scared Yeah You were scared and it wasn't scary like the poughkeepsie tapes which it was too scary and haunts me every every single night of my life it's not horrifying it's spooky it's great it feels um very much like you are walking through

a haunted haunted house during it which is so like that's why it's so smart too because I was it's such a good premise there are so many moments where you're like wait is that an evil entity or is it part of the house

and the movie does a good job of like sometimes slowing down and replaying being like, isn't that weird? I love when they do that. That we'd be like, wait, was that a ghost? And then they're like, okay, it was. They told me. They told me that it was.

But then there's like more that they don't do that to where you're like, wait, somebody was fucking right there. Oh, it's good. It right there. It's good. It's creepy. It's good. I have not watched this trailer because I wanted to have a fresh reaction. I don't know, Hen, if you're going to hate having to see this trailer,

but I'm excited to watch it. Right. Do you know anything about this movie, Hen? I'm probably going to hate watching this trailer. No, I know this trailer I know nothing I know nothing about Hell House LLC could you guess what it's maybe about?

it sounds like someone's trying to start a small business with a haunted house it's about the horrors of starting a small business you hire a company to start it for you but they sure don't do their job oh no this is like a it for you, but they sure don't do their job. Oh, no. And set stuff up.

This is like a Nathan for you episode or something. Yeah. Yes, yes. Okay. I mean, should we watch the trailer? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. What happened that night at the Abaddon Hotel?

What is that? It's everything. Sarah, have you watched those? No. So you have no idea what's on them. How beautiful is this? Hell House. Look, look, look.

There it is. There it is. There it is. There you go. What was that? I don't know. You have heard the rumors about this place. There are no rumors about this place. No rumors. We talked about this. It's supposed to be haunted.

All right, dude. Lock me in. Hold it. Got to be. Hey, man, how many freaks do we have? Three freaks. Oh, what's going on? Are you sure? I'm not.

Bullshit. Tony, let me out let me out it was when we started sleeping there that things started to change you hear that right I'm telling you we have to call it off right now. We have no business being here. Alex is more confident than ever.

I think we're next. Go back up, go back up! Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Oh my god. I am amped. I love this idea. This like is It's such a good premise. It's like Of course. It's perfect. It's a perfect premise.

I'm honestly shocked they haven't done this before. Right. It's so great. Oh my god. That was a scary trailer. I thought that I think it was a good trailer and then it didn't show too much but it's also really scary. Watching this trailer I was like I can't believe I watched this movie. I know you did great.

I'm so proud of myself. Thank you. I mean Emily we all know that you have just you're brave now. You've joined the other side. There was a moment during one of the scares that we'll talk about that I thought was the scariest scare that I was sort of looking down at my hands and just like letting the movie be in the background. And I was like, I hate being scared. I was like, I don't like this.

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What we see in the trailer of like, oh, a hair. Nasty. Of like, you know, on October 8th, a weird accident thing happened at a local haunt in upstate New York. 15 people. So you're like, what the fuck? What the fuck? And you see like just a bunch of footage, you know, a bunch of like news footage about it. And people be like, we don't know what's going on and seeing cops come and stuff like that.

And people kind of getting interviewed ish. Yeah. The first few interviews are so funny. It's where it really feels like a VOD movie, these actors, because it started, one of the first interviews is like, if I had to tell you exactly what I think happened at Hell House that night, I couldn't tell you. And it's like, really? We left that in?

We left that in? Every answer is like, I couldn't tell you. And I don't know. It's like, okay, man. I am prepared to be interviewed, and also I've got nothing. I couldn't tell you. And I don't know. It's like, okay, man. I am prepared to be interviewed, and also I've got nothing. I couldn't tell you. It's very funny. We see the interviewer, her name is Diana, walking around the property, and the windows are boarded up in this way that is truly like one, two, three.

Every single one is like someone just boards. It looks like a cartoon. It's so funny. It looks like a cartoon. It's very so funny it looks like a car it's very distracting because it looks so cartoony like there are just so many little elements like that in this movie where like it's so good it's so scary and then every now and again you're like and someone had no time to like make this thing different like they were on a tight schedule and they're like yeah this is fine uh love that though I think maybe I prefer that

over the like cinematic outrageous like high budget horrors you know what I mean I love found footage movies so much maybe because it is just kind of like raw but like

they have to rehearse it so much in order to get what they need like it's really neat it's cool it's cool I did see a trivia that I forgot to mention which is that um the camera person for the documentary is either the producer

or the director doing that and the person doing the camera for the found footage part is the producer or director. So that's how they're getting those shots, which is cool. That makes sense. But yeah, we get all this footage. Somebody's saying the police never released what happened.

It's just been ruled an accident. Nobody said anything. We get news footage of the night in question being like we don't know what it is and we get told that all they have is some footage a tour goer uploaded to YouTube of the night in question

and they play that in full and so it's following this woman through and her being like looking back at the camera being like oh yeah what is this oh my goodness and her being like, like looking back at the camera being like, oh, what is this? Oh, my goodness. And then you start seeing like some shit, like another woman runs by and runs up the stairs and she looks back at the camera and she's like, is this part of it? It's like just a regular woman just like opens a door and like goes up a hallway and she's like, yeah.

They're like oh technical difficulties on opening night yeah and then they keep moving through and they're like oh whatever this is fun this is fun and then they get to the basement and we see they see a clown like a guy in a clown costume run by a clown sprinting by and they're like that seems weird yeah and then they get to the basement and people are like screaming and being like get back up and so they're like being pushed back up they can't go into the basement yeah and so and then they get like pushed out of

the house and they're like what's going on and like the cops start showing up and we see like fire trucks there and like and that's the end of the end of the tour goers okay so the tour goer was fine obviously I mean they uploaded their footage they make it out but they're like basically the you know

they were the group that like caught it starting to happen but we don't see anything real other than like chaos yeah from them and he's like yeah a couple little moments that will maybe see where I'm going I see that we also get

so they're interviewing people so this whole beginning segment is like the documentary and so they're interviewing some experts some journalists this guy who we think is so funny who is he looks like that big Disney mole who like

hangs out with the great mass detective oh yes you know who I'm talking about the one who's like the head of the mafia who like has a ton of swagger no that's different that's the cat oh but also kind of like that cat

he looks kind of like a cartoon because he could also be a cartoon walrus like he looks like just... Big mustache, dark in the middle, gray on the outsides and it kind of comes... And he's like a round... He's very funny. A round

human. Yeah. Yeah, he's very funny. And I guess, yeah, is he just an expert on that hotel? Yeah, he's just like a guy who, yeah, he like knows about the history of the town, so we're like using him a bit.

And we're also interviewing a journalist who did some research on what happened that night, and the journalist says, like, we also, then we got the 911 call, which didn't really like add any, it didn't add any helpful information, so we hear someone calling 911 and they're like, come to the Abaddon Hotel.

And then it's like staticky and just like... And you kind of hear a roar. Like a roar. And you're like, whoa. So that's all we get. That's all we get. Then we get the interview with this journalist who's like, you know, they said it was a gas leak,

but he managed to get into the hotel after the fact and take some pictures. They show us the pictures and there's like bloodstains on the floor. So he's like, definitely not a gas leak. There are bloodstains on the floor. And he was like, I managed to talk.

I'm doing this sort of out of order, but these are the details. We get it at the top. He's like, uh, I did manage to talk to a police officer who was there on the scene. He gave me some information. He told me the first victim they found

had his throat slit. Right. And it looks like he did it himself. Ew. Scary. That's really scary. Too scary. I don't like that. I don't like that one little bit. Not a gas leak. Not good. Not a gas leak.

So like, what happened there? Right. And then I think they get Sarah. good it's not aghast like what happened there right um and then I think they get Sarah the documentary crew is like we Sarah the woman who works for Hell House LLC

has agreed to do an interview with us holy shit survivor of the original talk Yeah, like he hasn't talked to the cops, you know, hasn't really, and she's here. No one's heard from her in five years. It's been five years since this has happened.

And she shows up looking spooky. And sad and freaked out and just sort of like Yeah, just out of it. Very out of it very out of it and she's the interview in the trailer when she's

yeah yeah yeah yes and so they start like talking they're like so like yeah yeah like what happened that night she's like hey hell house and then she drops a pile of those tapes and she's like here you this is everything you need to know

yeah and the woman's like if you had all this like why didn't you ever tell the police why didn't you share and she goes nobody nobody should see what's nobody should have known what's if they knew it would be too bad

it was exactly that delivery that's the line it would be too bad it would be too bad it would really be too bad but you guys can watch it you guys should see it but nobody else should ever see this

and so then we basically the next bulk of the movie is we're watching these tapes and we do intercut a bit of interviews with her interviews with those other people again. But for the most part now, we're like, OK, we're watching their tapes of the creation. Right, right. And so you see them in the car driving up to Hell House. And so I'll say who the characters are just so we get that. So our main crew here is, there's five people.

We've got Alex, who's like the CEO, I guess, founder, director of this haunted house experience. It's this company called Hell House LLC. And they've done, we learned they've done other haunted, they do this every year. They like build a haunted house.

It's like pretty popular. They like build a haunted house. It's like pretty popular. This is not their first time. They usually do it in New York City, which is where they're from. New York. This is their first time doing they like get a new property outside of the city and in this town called Abaddon. But so it's so they're they've done this before, which I feel like is helpful in the understanding of like why the fuck they're doing.

Exactly. Yes. So it's Alex who's like the director and main guy. Sarah is his girlfriend. I don't know if she actually has a job there other than like being his girlfriend. This movie does not treat women well. Let's just come out and say that also. Yeah it really does not

give women a shot. Yeah but so she's the girlfriend. Then there's Mac, who is like Alex's childhood best friend, I think, and his like basically like partner. They're like the two main. Yeah. Tony is their tech guy.

OK. And then Paul, who's like recording all of it. And I had the same with Paul of where it's like, I don't really know what Paul does. I don't, I guess they all sort of do it all together. Some of them have more specialties. Paul records it all for, I don't know the learning processes.

They like make their new houses. But also these are all like, they're all very close friends. They've been doing this year after year. They're very loyal to each other. They're very bonded. This also feels important. That, like, why they're sticking together.

Because, like, nobody should ever do this. And also Alex, the, like, main guy, is a fucking asshole. And I would never want to spend any time. I mean, they all kind of suck. But, like, they keep doing this for Alex and it's like, Alex fucking sucks. Yeah, he's pretty despicable. He sucks.

Anyway. But he's a genius. Maybe that makes it a little bit more fun to watch, actually, if bad shit's going to happen if you don't actually care about Alex. Right. Yeah, well, bad shit's going to happen. But so we see them driving

in the car to this Abaddon hotel, and we see Alex and Mac fight at some point outside of the car, and the rest of them are in the car like, oh, there they are fighting. And we don't really know what it's about. No.

They're having some issues, and it seems like Alex bought this property for them to do the haunted house as this abandoned hotel in a town called Abaddon outside of New York City upstate New York the rest of them have not seen this place they've never been here this was all Alex

so they're they're taking it in a new direction they're like it's much scarier than being like in Queens and it's only 40 minutes outside of the city. Like people will come because we're so successful. So we get a tour of this hotel as they arrive. Yes. And it's nasty.

And they comment on that of like, I thought like when you said abandoned, like I thought it would be more like kind of foreclosed recently, you know, but it's like. Oh, like everything's still there and covered. Yeah. Like, it looks like it was like quickly abandoned. But like, you know, like it looks like a haunted house already. It's like cobwebby and broken bottles.

They wouldn't have to do anything if they didn't want to. And you could let people. But they do. And what they do is confusing to me. Yeah, there's definitely no story in their haunted house. There's absolutely no story. It's like a Halloween

store that they put in this house. It truly is. Just like some body parts hanging out. A Halloween section of Target in an already scary location. They like kind of make in an already scary location. They like kind of make it almost less scary in a way by doing that. Right.

Some of their stuff is very scary that they add in. But then there's also like pipe cleaner spiders, which I'm like, that doesn't look like a real spider. And also, why is it there? Right, right. I love it. Yeah, but I love it. I support it. I want to go through this house. It's Alex's vision. Okay. Yeah, but I love it. I support it. I want to go through this house. It's Alex's vision, okay?

Yeah, he's really a genius vision, man. He's a genius and we also like his personality. We love his personality. We're very happy for Sarah being with him. Ugh. So they go through the house. They take a tour. We see it's very creepy. Everything

is creepy. we are introduced to a piano there's an old nasty piano gross we hate a piano we know that piano is gonna be making some noise at no one sitting on it yep it's fucking gross i will never have a piano in my house first of all i don't. I don't ever want to play. Second of all, ghosts want to ding those keys. They want to tickle those ivories. Scariest? Nuh-uh. No way.

No way, no how. But nothing compares to the basement. And yes, there is a basement. Maybe I should say there's also an attic. Two scary rooms. They go up into the attic.

They're sort of split up. Two of them end up in the attic and they've got walkie talkies to like communicate with each other. They get up in the attic. There's like a metal chain just like hanging from the center of the ceiling. Not good. No, no. And they start hearing static on their walkie talkie. Not good.

And like kind of weird things being like, what was that? What was that? Whatever, whatever. And so they're like, these shitty walkie talkies. Get out of there. Get out of there. But then it works. And they come through and they're like, hey, guys, come down to the basement.

They're like, oh, that's, you know, good, good scare. You got us. They wasn't. I think just something else happened here. But then they go down to the basement and that's, you want to describe this basement? It is, it's horrific looking. You know, it's

unfinished. Yeah, it's just like dirt and brick walls. Old ass foundation that looks like, you know, just a castle or something beams bibles a bunch of bibles on the ground

okay in a circle I forgot yeah in a circle there's like fucking pentagrams pentagram on the wall and an upside down cross upside down cross and they're all like this is perfect we don't have to do anything right oh a bunch of idiots upside down cross. Stop it. And they're all like, this is perfect.

We don't have to do anything. Oh, a bunch of idiots. And Sarah's the only one who's like, um, wait. Like, why is this here? This is not good. Why are there Bibles here? And one of the guys is like,

it's a hotel. There's always Bibles in a hotel. It's like, not in a circle on the ground in the basement. Not in the basement clearly doing something weird they gotta be in that top drawer did anyone ask any questions about what happened

in this hotel does anyone google this hotel no no and you'll see later somebody starts to talk about it and alex our man our genius alex like, no, no, no. Who cares? No, I don't listen to listen. Like Alex knows that this place is fun. But nobody else really knows. But they were like, all right, let's put in some electricity. And then we're also getting time markers that we have like 50 days until the end of August. And they're like, OK, great.

Let's put up some electricity and then let's start living here. And then let's live here. Let's live here. No. Which they do start to do. And Sarah said in the interview, like, when we started staying the night, that's when things started happening. And it's like, yeah, stay literally anywhere

else. Are you fucking kidding me? Make the commute back to New York City where you live 40 minutes that's like 40 minutes to not stay here in we ho come on easy yeah it's easy i i do that every day god damn um but they start to say that they put up cameras like surveillance in every room just so they can like get eyes on the haunted house as it happens. I mean, they've done this before. They know the drill.

This is like pretty routine. It's just we're doing in this new space. We do find out that the Alex comes in and looks at all the monitors. It's like, oh, I said, you know, we're not supposed to have any blind spots. And Tony. Yeah. Our tech guy is like oh yeah the walls are too thick in the basement to get

cameras in there so there's we just have the one blind spot like we're gonna have a half naked girl in there yeah and they're like that's okay we'll put like a one of our like scare guys down there will be like a big bolt like strong guy who can you know protect the security for our half naked

girl so we don't need cameras. It's fine. At one point, the dude, I think it's Tony the tech guy, is like, people will get all rapey with her. Oh, yeah. They definitely say the word rapey. We should also point out that Paul,

who's our camera guy, is fucking disgusting and extremely creepy and is always talking about fucking laying puss and oh too bad Sarah's the only girl here and Alex doesn't like to share and a lot of like zoom-ins on

Sarah so you're like what's what's going on at one point he's like going through the house and she's in bed with her boyfriend like just laying in bed in her underwear and he's like zooming in on her ass and it's like he is awful and we hate him. He's great. And he keeps talking about like can we make our

actress in the basement? Could she be topless? Yeah she should be topless. She should probably be topless. Cool. Awesome. It's pretty cool. Yeah he's really cool. Love that. But here's the thing is that when we meet this actress she is like charmed by him. She thinks he's

and it is just like no fucking way this creeper. No way man. He's horrifying. He's every woman's like worst nightmare. Is it just a man you have to like work with who is disgusting all the time. Yeah like a confident man with a video camera. Please make it easy at least

for me to like. Nothing worse. Like let me just pretend you're not a creep You're not even giving me the opportunity to pretend I don't notice this Don't you fucking hate that when you're like If you could just at least give me plausible Deniability that you make me so Uncomfortable just so I can like Get through the fucking day

But no you're so heavy handed And I but no she loves it As you know women do We hire our actors, our first actors, and it's Joey, who's going to be our muscle. He's the muscle. He'll be in the basement so people don't get

rapey with the girl. So nobody gets rapey with Melissa. He'll be a clown. And Melissa starts, we got Alex and Paul filming. She's like, oh, so you guys know the story of this hotel. And Paul filming, she's like, oh, you guys know the story of this hotel? And this is when Alex is like, no, no, don't worry about it.

And she starts telling us the history of the Abaddon Hotel, and we're getting an interview that one of the mole guys is like, I don't think any of them knew what happened to this hotel. I don't think And she's giving

very vague, like, oh, it's haunted. So still very vague of like, well, I'm no historian, so I don't know. And then, yeah, we start to learn more of like the dude who owned it. What's his name? Like

Trumbly or something? It's a funny... Harry Toomly or something. It's a funny. Harry Toomly or something like that. It's like, oh, he was in a cult. People's rumor has it he was in a cult. He like killed himself in the house.

Yeah, like people started going missing when they would stay at the hotel and then he was able to provide documents showing they checked out. But probably didn't. And that then. But business started to fail because people started disappearing at this hotel. And so then he hung himself in the hotel.

And they show a fucking picture of this dude hanging in the dining room. Which is awful. Yeah. We don't need to see that. We don't need to see that. But so that's the history of this hotel. And we are getting the feeling that Alex knew this. He got a deal.

He got a deal on this hotel. He got a deal. For this reason. And we also learn, I don't know if it's now, but in one of these interviews that they're like, Joey, this clown guy. Nine days after this tragedy took place he survived the tragedy but nine days later he hung himself oh jesus uh yeah we like kind of slowly learn what happened to each person who was working there on on the like uh through these little through mr mole man and camera guy. Mr. Mole Man.

And so pretty much now is about when we start seeing some haunted shit happen. OK. Yeah. Kind of a slow burn, but in a great way where you're like learning the layout of the nasty house. Yeah. We're like seeing them set up the stuff and we're seeing what their little props are. And again, like we mentioned at the beginning, every now and again, because it's fan footage we're just filming as we go through, you'll see something in the corner

where you're like, did I just see is that a ghost or is that a prop thing or like is it a hand? Is it a like, and they just sort of, we're just getting like creepier and creepier feelings, but nothing has really happened yet. Right, right. Ooh. I'm ready.

I think the first thing that happens is Paul, our camera guy, is doing little video blogs at night in his room, which also, he sleeps with the door ajar, and in the hallway the light is red. Scary. They're asking to be haunted. They're asking to be so haunted.

Put a red light in the hallway and do not sleep with your damn door open. You cannot do that. But so he's doing his little video blog. And so he's talking to Cameron. He's like, okay, things are like going pretty well. It's a pretty weird house. And we see as he's talking, he doesn't see because it's behind him, in the doorway, a like creepy figure with like nasty hair like walks in slowly.

But they're like totally in shadow. And he notices and turns around and goes Sarah person doesn't say anything starts walking out and he's like Sarah yeah are you sleepwalking finger leaves and he turns to Cameron he's like that was weird and it's like that wasn't fucking Sarah

come on man get the fuck out so that's our first like okay a ghost has like made themselves known and then we see them setting up their haunted house and one of their things that they have are these nasty clown mannequins

huge like or like dude big man size big man size with like plasticky mask faces that are like bloody and like they're they're really scary they're like really nasty really nasty this fucking clown is like the scariest yeah i think this is so gross and we but they're like oh they don't move we can't make them like animatronics so we're just gonna have to sit them here and we'll put our like real clown in the

middle but they like knock the doll's like head and they're like yeah it doesn't move and they put them in the basement they're like we'll put them in the basement staring at the girl who will be hanging there naked not naked but kind of naked um oh so her job is to just hang there is that what her be chained up in the basement, yeah. She's chained up. With some nasty clowns. It's, again, like, what is the theme? What's the theme of this haunted house? I don't know. No story. What's our story? We don't really have one. And we also see they put

a dummy at the piano. The old spooky dummy at the piano. His name is Hector. And Paul, like, sits down next to him and is like, come on, Hector, let's play a song. And teaches him a little, like, ding, doon, doon, ding. And is, like, playing it over and over again. And is like, ha ha, come on, Hector, let's play a song. And teaches him a little ding, doon, doon, ding. And is playing it over and over again. And is like, ha ha ha, being Hector at the piano.

Getting that tune into our heads. Getting that tune into our heads. Oh, no. So we're just getting the vibe of the house and what the whole deal looks like. And then I think we get our first pretty big skit. Yes. Is it with Paul and. And.

Okay. So Paul's like kind of tooling around filming stuff in the house. And like, I think walks past. He's looking for Tony. They're like, where'd Tony go? And so he's going through the house looking for Tony, but like filming as he go and so he's going through the house looking for Tony but like filming as he goes so he's like cruising through being like Tony

Tony Tony and um and then is approaching the basement area and at the top the clown the nasty clown is standing there and he's like oh shit the mannequin that's supposed to be in the basement

is at the top of the basement stairs looking down the like facing the basement stairs standing there and so he's like oh so he's like oh shit and then is like haha Tony and like yeah Tony I see that you're in there moves the camera down so that you're looking down

into the basement and then pulls the camera back up to the clown. And the clown is staring at him. Oh, he's turned his head. It's a huge scare. And he's like, oh, fuck. God damn it, Tony. Like, you can't fuck with me.

So then he goes back down the hallway and he's like, I found Tony goes into the room with the rest of them. Tony, Tony's in that room. And so he starts freaking out. He's like no fucking way no fucking way. Runs back. Clown is gone. Oh shit. Oh shit. Well he is video proof. I mean and so. Yeah he does.

He plays that video for them. He's like what the fuck just happened and shows the video to everybody and they're not buying it they're like oh Paul how'd you do that like good scary movie like you really got us Sarah is the only one who seems freaked out she's

like wait how the fuck did that happen and they're like oh Paul what'd you do did you like put the camera on like good editing or whatever and he's like no this fucking like right I have proof that something fucked up is happening right whatever whatever

great yeah awesome awesome imagine having a bunch of friends not believing you and you have video evidence too I mean there's nothing you can possibly do at this point well pretty cool seems like Paul sucks so maybe he hasn't earned the trust he He definitely does suck.

I mean, they kind of all suck. You learn more and more of that of like, oh yeah, Paul is pretty unreliable. Yeah, he's like fucked with them in the past. Yeah, so they have that reason. We have reason to maybe not trust Paul. Classic Boy

Who Cried Wolf situation. Yes. Then I think the next thing that really happens is that when they test the strobe lights. Oh, shit. I hate strobe lights. I hate strobe lights.

I think that's the next thing that happens. So they send Paul in to and we saw a little bit of this in the trailer. They send Paul in to test this hallway with strobe lights and just make sure, and of course Paul is filming, and the strobe is very slow. It's not a crazy, it's like a very like click.

Yeah, it's like. Click, like light, dark. Light, dark, which is very creepy very creepy and um so he's filming this and it's like okay you see a couple of statues like you see a couple of like mannequins or whatever and you're like okay okay on and off on and off see the same thing all of a sudden you're like wait i think i just saw another like skeleton mannequin thing what they're like okay whatever whatever and even paul's like wait how many dudes do we have here they're like three and he's like uh i'm counting more than that and then like another then there's like more like shrouded, like hooded. They're all cloaked.

They're like skeleton-y and cloaked. More and more, and getting closer and closer with every strobe. Flash. Yes. It's really a great device. It's really done well. And of course, Paul fucking freaks out. Yeah.

And he's like, get me out, get me out. And the door went open. He's like, let me out. Tony, fucking let me out. Yeah. And he's like, get me out, get me out. And the door went open. He's like, let me, Tony, fucking let me out. Yeah. Wait, is he in the basement? Or he's in a hallway? No, he's in like a hallway. Yeah, some hallway in there. One of the walkways through the house. But now he's officially very fucking freaked out.

I think Sarah is also really freaked out now. They're all getting a little bit, because they're like okay that's like not what's supposed to be happening but yeah what do they think is happening they think paul's still fucking with them i guess i don't you know i i don't know what i think this is one of the moments where i'm like the show it's sort of just a show must go on situation whatever hey four more days until we open this is gonna make us money or whatever you know that

kind of that's the stakes I guess yeah and everything I guess all these scares have been like are we seeing like I mean I think at this point it's pretty obvious like well those you didn't put those people there and then you saw them. So like, that's not good.

But it's still sort of vague enough that they're like, it's probably fine. I don't know. We're peace. Whatever. Haunted house. Then I think pretty quickly we get the first like group shared scary experience wait Emily also it's really important that you tell us at what point in the movie you

look down at your hands and you said I don't like this feeling I will tell you we haven't gotten there yet so far I could handle I didn't like the clown but I forced myself to watch when he turned his eye I watched the strobe-y part that was fine I have the strobe-y part. That was fine.

I have an easier time when I know it's happening. I'll tell you what I thought the biggest scare was that I definitely didn't look at. So now we get this. They wake up in the middle of the night. They all heard a scream. Which we don't hear, but we see them being up. wake up in the middle of the night. Yeah. They heard,

they all like heard a scream, which we don't hear, but we see them being up, like, they're like, did you hear that? Matt and Paul go to try to investigate the scream that they heard. I think we do see the clown somewhere.

It shouldn't be. I think so, right? Yeah, this is that. Okay, so this clown keeps fucking popping up and they're like, what the? Yeah, this clown is fucking scary as hell and we see him in places he shouldn't be all the time. This clown is like all over the place.

This fucking clown. But they're like walking through the house and they're like, what's going on? They realize Sarah is out of bed. They don't know where Sarah is. But they're like walking through the house and they're like, what's going on? They realize Sarah's out of bed. They don't know where Sarah is. So they're looking for Sarah. They find her standing up against a wall, like up

against a painting, sort of like mumbling to herself. And they come up to her and they're like, Sarah, and they like go to grab her and then she like sort of wakes up and like freaks out and is like sort of screaming. And Mac is like hugging her like, it's okay. It's okay, Sarah. You're okay.

You're okay. You're fine. You're fine. You're fine. Come on. Come with us. Come with us. And then as they go to like leave that room, they look and the clown is in that room with them.

It's not supposed to be. They're all screaming. They like head through the house to try to get back to their bedrooms. They walk past the dining room and the candles are lit in the dining room. So they're screaming. They're like so freaked out. They

managed to like run and get back to bed and that's like all that that is. But then the next day they're like really fucking freaked out and they're like all talking to Alex and they're like something is up here. We have're like all talking to Alex. And they're like, something is up here. We have to get out of here. We have to get out of here.

We gotta call it. Yeah. No, no, no. They're like, we all experienced that something is fucked up here. We should not be here. And Alex is like, we open in three days. This is going to be a huge hit. Alex, you can go fuck yourself.

Yeah, Alex, fuck off, man. Fuck off. And so they decide to stay. Alex you can go fuck yourself yeah Alex fuck off man fuck off and so they decide to stay I'm like okay and I think is that there is a moment now of like they're kind of fucking around outside

yes and like Paul pans over and you see like Sarah staring at like a statue of of Mary. Virgin Mary or something. Yes. So then I guess they decide they're going to stick to it. So they like make a commercial. They're like, let's make a commercial. And then they're like filming with these dummies. And Paul looks over and Sarah has like gone to this garden and she's standing in front of a Virgin Mary just staring at it. And Sarah has like gone to this garden and she's standing in front of a Virgin Mary just staring at it. And they're like, Sarah. And she's like, hi.

Awesome. And like comes back over and they they don't address it. But that's not OK. Like Sarah's getting. Yeah, I'd be like, Sarah, we can't be friends anymore. Yes. Sarah's haunted. Sarah's haunted for sure.

I would also be like, Alex, you brought your girlfriend here to have no job to be sexually harassed by your friend now she's clearly fucking haunted like poor Sarah we gotta deal with this poor Sarah so then we get another video blog

night time video blog from Paha oh no and this was the biggest scare of the movie for me this is really hard to look at so like I looked at my hand so he's very much just like

exhausted and just like three more days okay yeah and he's saying like something doesn't want us here he's like fully believes it he's like we something doesn't want us here. He's like fully believes it. He's like, we should not be here. This is not, but like we got to keep doing it.

Door open, door wide open and red light. And he like kind of puts his face like pretty much taking over the whole shot, like the whole camera. Oh, so you can't see what's behind him. He leans forward, so you can't see what's behind him. And then he comes back,

and in the shadows, you see something sitting against the wall. A human figure sitting, legs out straight, in a nasty nightgown I think. Nasty nightgown for sure. Oh shit. Just sitting there. Sitting and staring. Staring and like

he's like talking to and then is like oh shit oh shit and like um grabs the camera and then you like see her like this evil lady entity's eyes are like kind of glowing milky white glowy and she's so he notices

her freaks the fuck out and throws himself and the camera under his sheets classic move oh my god raises him a little bit she's a little closer and like staring puts it back downuts it back down. Puts it

back down. And you're like, oh my god. And he's breathing all heavy. You're like, oh my god. And at this point, I made myself watch the first time he lifted up the covers and then after he puts it back down, that's I looked up for the rest of this scare. I was like, I know where this is going and I don't fucking see that lady. You wait, you wait

and then up again. Boom! She's right there in her face looking nasty as hell. Very good scare. Very good scare. He starts screaming, covers up the camera. So it's like black, right? It's like, and so again, I'm not really watching. But everybody else runs in, right?

Because they hear. Actually, that's kind of the end. He just is screaming and covers up the camera. Tony, we see Tony picking up the camera in Paul's room like that next day being like, where's where the fuck did Paul go? Paul's room is empty. Paul's not there. And he's like, where did Paul go? And that's when we kind of start hearing of like, oh, Paul has bailed on them before.

So they're kind of like not too worried because he's done this shit before. They're like pissed off. They're like, God damn it, Paul. We open in two days. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. And so they're kind of like, whatever.

That's so weird. Whatever. Okay, Paul. And someone says like, have you tried calling him? Like someone should just try calling him. Right. So Alex is like, fine, I'll call him. He goes to call him on his cell phone. It rings, it rings, it rings.

It picks up silence and then it goes like and like static and crazy scream and he drops the phone and his phone breaks and they're like and Alex is like, whatever. But like, like no that was fucked up Alex you pissed your pants what happened nothing nothing it's so cool

nothing I'm just so cool I pissed my pants come on come on but then they're like still kind of looking for Paul and we start to hear then on from the piano below oh is that what Paul was playing And we start to hear then on from the piano below.

Yeah. Oh, is that what Paul was playing? The thing Paul was playing. So they're like, Paul is fucking with us. Oh, it's Paul. Let's go. Oh, we forgot to mention the clown on the stairs. I think that did happen before.

Okay. That was in the big nighttime scare. So with Sarah talking at the wall. Yes. Okay. There was at one point the clown was just standing in the big nighttime scare. I think so with Sarah talking at the wall. Yes. Okay. There was at one point the clown was just standing in the stairwell and I'm fucking Mac just like walks right up to it. It's like fucking kick that thing down.

Yeah. Yes. I would. I would. Clown is really scary. It's just too cavalier with these haunting. They're like, they know they're being haunted, but they're like, it can only go this far. Right. Like, they're not going to kill us. It's're know they're being haunted but they're like it can only go this far right like they're not gonna like

kill us. It's 100% they're being haunted but so the song is playing on the piano. It's night time again right like they were like Mac and Tony were woken up to hearing the piano. And so they're like oh Paul's still here he's

fucking with us he's trying to scare us. Let's go get him and so like they're kind of cruising Mac's still here. He's fucking with us. He's trying to scare us. Let's go get him. And so like they're kind of cruising. Max going fast. Tony's like, slow down, man. And then we keep hearing the piano playing and it's getting closer and closer and they are approaching the piano room where Hector is and and Paul. And and then so it plays one more time, like, do, do, do, do. And then a funny little, like, blip, blip, blip.

And they're like, Paul! And nobody's there. Just Hector, man. Just Hector sitting on those keys. And so Mac's, like, looking for Paul behind, like, a couch, anywhere. Just being like, Paul, is it you, is it you? And, like, Tony follows him. And then you hear a little, like, bleh they turn back and they're like what the fuck man

what the fuck is happening um and then paul's gone paul's gone paul's dead well they go into the basement and i think alex comes down at this point because they're like making a big fuss they go into the basement because they're like, Paul, where the fuck are you, Paul? Paul. And I love this, like, is really freaky. They're like, because they're filming it

and you see Paul is sitting in the darkness in the corner in the basement like that lady was legs out straight, just like catatonic. Oh, that's scary. But they don't really catch it.

They're like, where is he? That's scary. Then Tony sees the clowns sitting there. And the clowns are all like looking straight ahead, you know. And so Tony sees them. He's like, oh, my God.

And then he's following Mac, who's looking around and then like turns back. And all the clowns heads are now turned looking at Tony. Oh, shit. And it's nasty. And he freaks out. And he shoves Mac into a walk-in freezer that's down there or something.

Right? A walk-in fridge or something. And they're freaking out. I can't remember what they said. They're in there for a while. So did they notice that Paul was down there? Not yet.

So we've seen it in the camera but they haven't noticed I think we've caught a glitch because I remember being like yes like we're like wait what the fuck was that and you're like okay okay okay what oh shit the clowns and so they're in this freezer what do they do because they're in there for a while I just

also rewind I can't remember uh they talk I don't I mean I think basically they're just there for a while. I just also rewired. I can't remember. They talk. I mean, I think basically they're just like. They're saying out. They make out a little bit. No, they're freaking out. They're having a little, yeah, 20 minutes in heaven with that.

Yeah, yeah. They're freaking out. I think Alex comes down. This is probably not the exact same events. But Alex comes down. They're freaking out. They do find Paul. Yes.

And like pick him up. He's not talking he's not reacting they're like paul come on come on stop fucking with us and tony is the one who's like like alex is down there like see it's just paul he's just freaking and tony's like no fuck this shit the they those clowns turn their heads something's up with paul i i am out i fucking quit i quit there is i know those dummies can't move. He like goes over and touches their heads. Like they can't move. But they their heads were turned.

Fucking saw it. This shit is fucked up. I'm done. And Alex is like, oh, you're quitting. Like they have a fight. He's like, OK, fine. Fucking yeah. Go quit.

Walk away. That's fine. Mac follows him out and is like, Tony, Tony, wait. Don't like you need all you don't have all the information. Like stay. Please just talk to me Tony so then we cut to

Tony and Mac talking in a field of wheat in like this tall grass just sitting and they I guess have the camera there with them I don't know why but they're like it's a weird shot it's a very weird choice where they're they've clearly just

had a conversation and uh tony's like does sarah know does anyone know max like no uh but you know they see now why you gotta stay and tony's like yeah i gotta stay i can't leave and we looked this up after because i was like did I fucking miss something the secret I looked it up is the thing that you would expect which is that they're out of money they're fucking bankrupt yeah that was what the fight was about at the beginning yeah and it's like Alex didn't tell any

of them that they're completely out of money and so I guess Tony's like I have to stay because otherwise I have no money and I gotta make my money off of this or like we're all fucked right not a big enough reason no I don't see no okay I'm out of here and I'm doing a different job like Tony

if you know how to put electricity in yeah like dying a horrible death yeah like Tony you've got skills you've got skills man you can go somewhere else um but they decide to stay and then it is opening night.

And we see like Alex and Tony at the like what was it? The like headquarters or like the what's that word? Like the base camp? Base camp. Yeah, they're video villains.

So they have like cameras on every room except the basement. Not in the basement. And so they're, like, kind of getting ready, like, okay, it's opening night. Mac has on, like, a GoPro on his head. Which I wonder why they didn't use that a little bit more, you know? I know. We see there's a huge line outside. So, like, it's a hit. Popular. Popular. It is a huge line outside so like people it's popular it is

you know people are there they're gonna make their money back they're all excited they're so pumped we're we're 10 minutes to to open um we one of them i think it's mac goes down to the basement where they tie up melissa and is like okay this is the only time they use the fucking GoPro is this shot where he's like okay are you ready sorry gotta do this and she's standing there tied up with this dress and he grabs scissors and cuts her dress

open down the middle and the shot is like just down this actual actress's body as her dress is being cut off of her and it's like did she realize did she know this was gonna happen i well she's giggling the whole time like this is so exciting this is so exciting no but then i think she does say she's like no one's gonna touch me right it's like jesus exactly and so and they also established that joey is so is gonna Joey is that middle clown, and he's there to protect her and stuff.

He also is the only one who has a key to her shackles. Where it's like, guys, this is a haunted house. She should be able to just be like, clink. Like, she doesn't. Yeah, it should be protected. She does not need to be locked into anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Especially when she doesn't it should be she does not need to be locked into anything no no no no no no no no especially when she doesn't have the key lock a woman in naked and right right no thanks anywhere no thanks right yikes so the stage is set the conditions are perfect yes they just said here we go they leave they also were like

we here right after he like leaves her in the basement they're like okay 10 minutes till opening where it's like you could have you could have hung her up as they are opening the doors like the first group that's insane to be like okay hang here for 10 extra minutes come on that's so horrible awful awful um anyway we see we're looking and then so from video village we're looking and they're looking at mac and they're trying to talk on the walkies mac is trying to talk to them and they're like mac press down the button you gotta press down the button when you talk to us and they see him like doing it and speaking and they can't hear him. And they're like, these fucking walkies don't work.

These walkies, man. And he's like, no, this place is haunted. Come on. But so then what's cool now is so now we start to see opening night and we're seeing it intercut the YouTube footage we saw at the beginning with

their footage of what's happening. So it's all sort of coming together. And it happens pretty it happens very fast. Like a tour doesn't go like, right? It kind of immediately Oh, it's like the very first tour. Basically the first group it starts out.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. And so we see like, so we're seeing the woman from before the youtube video like walking in and being like oh scary scary and then we see oh my god i fucking love this too they're like walking we're seeing our footage walking through and paul is just sitting in a room that he's not supposed like not a part of the experience it's like the dining room where they're all these like dummies But he's also just sitting there like dummies. And they haven't figured out what

Paul's deal is. They're just like, well, Paul, we'll just let him be catatonic in the corner. Also, when they're setting up Video Village, I think Alex is like, how's Paul doing? And Tony's like, still sleeping. And Alex is like, oh, that's so creepy. Anyway, like, that's

it. Oh, yeah, they do go and show him at one point. He's sleeping, like, face down, just like a corpse. Like, a way that, like, nobody sleeps. Like, it's very weird. Get him out of here, man. Get him away. They've also said at one point, Paul hasn't said a word since they met. This dude needs to go to the hospital.

Like, he's not okay. Get out of here. But then we do see, yeah, Paul is just like sitting in the midst of the haunted house. And so then Sarah, I think, goes up to Mac and is like, Paul's like in that, what the fuck is Paul doing? He's like in that house, like in the experience.

And Mac's like, fucking go get, or go tell Alex or go get him or something. Yeah, like go upstairs and tell Alex. And so we see her run and sprint up the stairs and then YouTube girl being like is this real so it's a fun like oh we're seeing what's going on and then pretty quick

like Mac is hearing stuff he's like hiding some he's like kind of in a closet just sort of keeping eyes on like the actual experience and like the kitchen or something. Like. He keeps trying to get in touch with Alex being like something is up, something is wrong in the basement.

Because then I think that Joey, they see Joey on the monitor. Right. Because they don't have eyes on the basement. Right. on the monitors because they don't have eyes on the basement. Right. The cameras don't work there, but what they do have eyes on is they see Joey run out of the house. Run out.

And they're like, what the fuck? Like, Joey. And so then they're like, Mac, go see what happened. So now we get his GoPro. Yes. He tries to go down to the basement to see what's going on. And instead, people are like, he doesn't actually get into the basement to see what's going on and instead people are cut like he doesn't actually get into the basement yet right no but somehow we do get footage from the basement so

they like how so they oh in this bag i think of footage they find uh in early tours tour people's footage so like of someone before our original woman had actually gotten another video right behind an early tour people's footage. So like- Someone before our original woman had actually gotten another video, yes. Right, and so we're seeing what's going on in the basement. And so they cut to that and we see our actress shackled up being like, help me, this isn't part of it.

And we see this like creepy very kind of nose for art looking dude in a big old cloak spooky like sallow cheeks yeah like sort of like a skeleton-y standing in the room and she's freaking out and then we see that is so scary just screaming being like this isn't part of the show this isn't part of the show and people being like oh like kind of like joey we see from that shot joey running out who she knows is the only person who has the keys and she's screaming she's like joey don't leave joey no what the joey gets the fuck out jo. This figure keeps getting closer and closer to her. Yes, and there are more figures that appear. And she's screaming. Ooh, and so people, so then the people are like, whoa,

this is weird, this is weird. And they keep going deeper in the basement thinking there's an exit. Because I don't, was there ever an exit in the basement? I don't think so. I think they originally actually did think there was. At one point they're like, see, there's a little storm door that people can get out through.

But they can't. The people can't because this is a haunted house. And these people, these evil entities want some souls or something. And so they're like, oh, shit, we can't get out. And we see them now. We see the like chaotic mob trying to like get out of the basement and they keep this footage keeps turning back to where we see now all the cloaked figures around the poor woman um melissa poor melissa yeah poor melissa and we're like well melissa's dead melissa's dead yeah uh and then we

go back to we get back to like max gopro footage because he realizes now like okay people are screaming and so he knows where the exit is because he can't get out of there so he starts shepherding people out and he's like okay go out exit this way exit this way like getting all the people out um we see all them get out that's like back to our youtube footage of like all the all the people get out Then we're back with Mac who runs into Sarah. Right because he then gets locked in. Yeah. Then they

try to exit and they can't. And then they're like where's Alex? Let's get Alex. Yeah. Go up to the attic where Alex is. I think this is now Tony and Mac as well. And Sarah. Yes, I think so. And Sarah. They all are

locked in once they've got their tour goers out. So they're like, let's go get Alex. They go up to the attic. Yes. And Alex, he's hanging, right? Hanging from that chain in the ceiling. From that chain in the ceiling. But he's not dead yet. He's kicking.

He's kicking. He's kicking. He's kicking. So they're screaming. They're trying to get him down. Oh, shit. Then some hooded figures show up in that attic. Dude. Yeah, and there's like a cool like whirlwind where you're like, wait the fuck is hat like what is going on what's

happening right yeah it's like it's just sort of chaos um but it seems like the hooded figures get are getting there sarah manages to escape i think they're like trying to get alex down realize like it's not gonna fucking happen and then these things are starting to like converge on them so Sarah gets out and then we see like Mac fall GoPro is down and you see just like hanging Alex's

hanging legs oh scary scary scary so you're like oh they're all dead but Sarah made it out yeah yep yep yep yep yep and then we cut back to the interview with Sarah and Diane and Sarah

is like I'm tired I we get the impression that Sarah has been describing this to Diane Diane none of them have seen these tapes because Sarah literally just gave them to them some another crew member his name is Mitchell goes to like catalog those tapes. So he's someone is working on the tapes, but Sarah is just telling them their story.

So then sitting with Sarah and Sarah's like, I'm tired. I think I need a break. Can I like go rest for a little bit before I keep talking about this? And Diane's like, oh, my gosh, yes, of course. I guess they're at a hotel. And so Sarah's like, yeah, just come find me in a few hours. I'm in 2C. I'm in 2C. Oh, no.

And they're like, okay, great. And then she says, have you been to the hotel? Right. And she's like, no, it's all boarded up. We couldn't get a permit. No one let us in. And she's like, that's the only thing that's stopping you? Yeah. You should really see what's in there and you know you should really see what's in the hotel being a documentarian is like okay we really should we should sneak in sarah gets up and they

take sarah's mic off of her and leave it on the table sarah gets up and then we through that mic hear a conversation that d Diane's having with her other camera guy, and he's like, I'm not going to that fucking hotel. And Diane's like, oh, are you scared of a little ghost? Yeah, she straight up does that. And it's like, Diane, 15 people

died. Like, 15 people died there. That's what's scary. Nobody knows why and how 15 people died, but she's like, oh, come on. Don't you want to see this spooky house? Also, who died? I know obviously some members of this original cast died.

I guess maybe some tour goers died. I think some tour goers died. Some tour goers must have died. And then also four of the five cast members. Tony Mack and Alex. Yes. And then Melissa.

There were more actors than even the ones that we met. Okay. So I think pretty much everyone except, in theory, Sarah died. Yes. In this night. But finally, they're like, okay, fine, we'll go. We'll go. And the text comes up on the screen that's like,

Mitchell stays behind to catalog Sarah's tapes. And what he sees is unbelievable. Okay. And so then we get to watch one final tape. Oh. Oh. Of Diane sneaking in. So, yeah, meanwhile, we're seeing Diane and her documentary guy walking up to the hotel. We saw it at the beginning.

She's wearing a very silly coat. Very funny coat. And walking around the house and we're seeing these like boarded up windows. They're trying to find a way in. And she says, it's 5am. Who's gonna even know that we're here? It's like, tell everybody where you're going. Tell fucking everyone. If you're going into an abandoned house where 15

people just died, let someone know. Let someone know. Feel differently about it than the way that you currently feel. Yeah, react a little harder, Diane. But we see her starting to walk in, but then we watch this final tape.

And I guess it's Paul's tape. Right. Paul is filming this. Right. I think we see the camera like get set down or something because we're seeing Paul. Yes.

And Sarah. And Sarah sees Paul and it's like, Paul, they're trying to get this. I mean, this is when Alex and Mac and Tony have just died. Everyone just died. Sarah's freaking out.

It's just like, Paul, what's going on? We just see Paul's face and like, stabbing movements and blood getting on Paul. Camera cuts down.

Yeah, and then like a body fall. Does a body fall in the frame? I think Sarah's body falls in the frame. So he stops Sarah. Sarah's body falls in a frame and she is. Oh, her throat is cut. She's got slashes all over her face. She's like on the ground, like bleeding out, like blood pooling out of her mouth.

And Paul drags her. She gets dragged out of frame. So Paul took over Sarah's body well then we see Paul we just see his feet and we see him bend down pick up a shard of glass

slit his throat his own throat slide down into frame the camera's on the ground. He slides spread eagle legs over the camera. This shot is from his fucking dick up to his face. It's insane. It's a very silly shot.

But then he bleeds out and dies. And so we had heard at the beginning the first body the police found was someone who slit their own throat. And that's we learned. Who slit their own throat. And that's Paul. That it was Paul. So we've also seen on this tape that Sarah's fucking dead. Yeah.

Yeah. So who's who's this new Sarah and 2C? Oh, we missed when they go to go to the hotel, Abaddon, Abaddon Hotel. They say like, oh, will you let us know when the woman in 2C gets up? We're just going to go do a thing on it. And the woman is inexplicably Australian, the front desk agent. And she's like, there is no 2C.

There's no 2C. There's no room 2C. And then they're like, oh, okay, will you tell us what room Sarah Havel is in? And they look and they're like, there's no Sarah. And they're like, Sarah. There's Nars, Sarah. And they're like, maybe she's choosing another name. Whatever.

So then they go into the Abaddon. They make it into the Abaddon Hotel. They're walking around. We learned at some point Abaddon is in the Bible as like somebody who watches the gates of hell or something yeah abaddon means like yeah the gates of i don't know like that some entry to hell um but they're walking around inside the house being extremely cavalier dan's like oh look this is the bar and like this is where those people died and look at the blood on the floor. This is awesome. Like she's pumped to see what a massacre happened. Just wait, Diane.

Just you wait, Diane. They're walking through. They get a phone call. She gets a phone call from Mitchell. She's like, Mitchell's calling. I'll just talk to him later. Mitchell's calling to tell you Sarah's fucking dead. You gotta answer a call from Mitchell. Especially if it's 5 a.m. It's gotta be important.

It's not a.m. Yeah. It's gotta be important. It's gotta be important. It's not a casual call. So they're walking through and oh what do they see? But room number 2C. Stop it.

Stop it. And Diana's like oh 2C let's open the door. And her camera guy's like no. Fuck no. Don't go in that room. But she open the door. And her camera guy's like, no! Fuck no! Don't go in that room!

But she opens the door. And we see Sarah sitting on the bed. Not looking at her. Staring away from us. Yeah, looking out the window. And so she's like, Sarah? Oh my god. Sarah?

Sarah turns around. She looks like a dead person. Her face is all cut up. She's got gray skin. Oh my god. She's been stabbed and killed. She's been stabbed and killed. She is not of this world. At this point, they're in the room with her

and they're like, oh my god. Sarah, what the fuck? Door shuts. They can't get out. They start screaming. Sarah stands up. Hooded figures are there. Ooh. Lights out. No credits.

Oh my god. Oh my god. I loved it. I loved it. It's a blast wait okay so we're guessing um Sarah's uh body was taken

over by an evil spirit it was somehow able to make her look human um they wanted to trick more people into coming to the hotel I think so they want as many souls as they can get, I think. They love to feast on

souls. They're feasting on souls. It is an interesting thing. We talked about this after that, like, it's not clear what these entities are, what they want, or why, or like, you know, sometimes they inhabit clown mannequins, sometimes

they're on their own sometimes they use and like that's honestly fine who cares it is like being inside a haunted house where it's just like I don't know scary shit yeah yeah yeah exactly like maybe fine it seems like that scary girl in Paul's

room like took him over or or right he was already dead and did like a similar Sarah thing. You know, like who knows? Right. Who knows? It doesn't have to do with the satanic cult. I don't know.

Is it just a haunted place? We don't know. But it is bad and scary. It's spooky. We don't know and we don't care because it's scary and fun. We don't know and we don't care. Betsy, and fun. We don't know and we don't care. Betsy, do you like going to haunted houses? Yeah, I love them.

Oh, my God. So are you going to just think about this movie, though? Every time you're in one, you're like, what if this is Hell House LLC? Well, you know, I do think like, oh, God, what if somebody kills us? Like when somebody's dressed up and actually does kill us which there's a movie called hell fest where that's kind of the like there's a serial killer at a like halloween horrors night-esque kind of thing that is going around just killing people yeah because there's some haunted houses that are like genuinely like so scary like so so so so scary i can't

because there is like I was just talking to my friends Justin and Marissa about this one called the 17th door and it's where you like sign a wave and I've done ones where you sign a waiver where it's more of like people will touch you like but they're more like interactive

theater than like but this one like this year first of all i think so i'm gonna talk they like they had one last year like in the depths of covid like they stayed open so that kind of you're like okay you guys uh also that was like a bad time of year COVID-wise. Yeah, it was really like last fall was scary. It was scary. Anyways, this year, I guess there's

a part where like you someone from your group or something. I guess it's like 17 like almost escape rooms that you have to go through and they're really intense and this year

there's a point where somebody like is in water until like is like dunked in water and like held down or something. Like a guest? A guest yeah you like sign up to be like okay okay I guess I might be drowned? Like almost guess and then i might be drowned like

almost drowning and then they like release you or whatever and and they shave um apparently this year they shave they shave people's heads oh my fucking god so it's like and then and there's like there was one in san diego that was really known for like who would do that? Who needs to feel alive in that way that they're letting strangers fucking shave their heads for a haunted house experience? Are you fucking kidding me? I could never. I am pissed off. There's one where they like I actually don't think it's allowed to be happening anymore. There was one in San Diego that like got

some heat and it was a place where it was like you sign a waiver, you tell them like your biggest fears and then it's like eight hours or something of them like truly trying to break you. It's like immersive therapy when you're like

trying to like get over your biggest fear and they like put spiders all over you and you're like so scared of spiders exactly exactly there's a really a pretty fun documentary called haunters where it followed like um it follows a bunch of just like or that world of haunted houses amateur and and professional. And I will say the whole like second half follows this, um, that San Diego place. I think it's San Diego somewhere in California. And it sounds like a San Diego thing.

That part gets kind of hard to watch because it is like. People being like genuinely so fucking scared. Yeah. And like the people running it being like we want them to puke they're so scared we want them to piss their fucking pain i don't want to be around those people like what's up with those people that's exactly it too it's like what's your deal wanting to do this to people so and no way are you getting that fill just once a year like if that's your shit it's yeah i'm scared about you i can't do it i will never do anything like that

give me just a fun like a loud noise that scares me enough like bang on some trash cans i'm sold like like i want to go to a haunted house where like eight year olds are also there, you know? And it's like, that's, that's the level of scared. Yeah. Like a thing I've been after this, this year, more than any years past is like, I wish there were more like spooky ambiance things. Like don't scare me, but let me feel Halloweeny, which is maybe sort of like what we're gonna do I'll talk about it next episode we're going to like a

spooky theater-y vibe like like basically like Magic Castle Halloween style like that's what I want cause I like spooky like ominous sort of creepy but don't like fucking jump out at me with an axe don't like

no you're right yeah no thanks no thanks I don't really want that either I like that especially after this movie jumping out see yeah that is the it's a thing that like makes me feel like when I was watching the movie like oh I don't I don't like this

I don't like having to worry about this it's not weird for you to be like, I don't want somebody like snorting in my face. That's been a big, the last couple of years has been a big like. A lot of snorting. Okay, okay. It's fun to see like.

Snorting is in right now. There are trends where it's just like, oh, okay, scare actors are snorting this year. Ooh. That's so funny. That's so funny. I can't do it. It hurts my throat. But that sucking in like raptors. Yeah, that vibe of

animal-like freaky, like Texas Chainsaw, like that guy. Like piggy guy. Betsy, you coughing makes me think of them doing like voice exercises before they go out preparing their vocal cords i think they really do because they do this you have to for hours and they commit i just went to Not Scary Farm, and it was so much fun, and the scare actors were so damn good. Yeah.

Yeah, I highly recommend it. Shout out Not Scary Farm. Not Scary Farm. It's so fun. Well, hopefully. I mean, this episode comes out just a few days before Halloween, so y'all have an opportunity. If this makes you really want some on-house action. It's a really fun Halloween-y one, too.

Yeah, it's a fun one. It's very Halloween-y. It's like, you know, like I said, it is scary. I was scared. But I think it's like a good scary for anyone. Like, it didn't sit with me. I slept last night just fine. I wasn't scared of these things in my life.

You know what i like kind of had a rough night just early like when the sun was rising um because i was thinking i was like oh i should probably re-watch it because like just so i it's really fresh but then i started thinking of the scares and then i couldn't go to sleep I was like if I turn over and that clown is hanging out in my closet I'm done for and then there was an earthquake

while I was awake I hate that while I was scared of that clown and it was just like I got legitimately scared actually last night before we left there was like a helicopter flying overhead but it rattled Wilma's cage That's terrible. I got legitimately scared actually last night before we left. There was like a helicopter flying overhead, but it rattled Wilma's cage and I but just by the window. And we were and I looked over and was like, is there something outside the fucking window?

So I get I get it. Yeah. Yeah. It'll leave you like it'll leave you spooked. It'll leave you. Let's say that you'll be spooked. And I even the first time I watched it was in the daytime and I had a black like it's even one of those where it's like, oh, this is so good. Even in the daytime.

But then you have the whole day to feel OK. Right. Right. Maybe that's the play. Watch it during the day, you guys. Yeah. Watch it during the day. Watch it on Halloween.

I will not be watching it. Bud Light. Fall seltzer. Throw it on in the daytime. Hit up Too Scared Didn't Watch. Let them know if you bought the Bud Light. Let us know your favorite flavor. If you've managed

to come up with a recipe. We kept being like, maybe if you add this to this, it'll work. See if you can do that. I would love to find out. I'll try it again. I got four. Betsy still has four more. So we'll try it. It's going to be disgusting.

It's like tequila and toasted marshmallow mixed. It's actually what's really delicious. I know. Mezcal with toasted marshmallow? Might it taste like a little smoky? Smoky marshmallow? Shit, I have some.

I have some. We should try it. Let's try it. Okay, come on over. All right, come over. We're going to try it right now. Nothing like an afternoon. Thank you for having me.

Thanks for being back. Thank you, Horrorspondent. It's truly my favorite. Screaming at people about horror movies is my number one thing I want to do all the time it's the best I love it

there weren't really any voices other than the Australian let's do an Australian goodbye receptionist at the hotel so we'll do that how could we do an Australian accent without Sammy hereist at the hotel. So we'll do that. Oh gosh. How could we do an Australian accent without Sammy here? I'm going to really ruin this. Shag and Peach, if you're listening,

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry every time I do an Australian accent. Okay. From... Oh crap. Okay. No, that was Irish. What do you say? The biggest Burberry baby share. The biggest Burberry baby share in all of Adelaide.

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