Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER 2 (Vault Episode)

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. This episode was originally released as a bonus episode in August of 2022, and it is available as a video episode as well. And if you would like to access that, you can join our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Launch. Second bonus episode for the month of August in the year of 2022.

Here we are. We have a very fun episode for you guys today. Some of you may know there is a new Hellraiser movie coming out this fall, directed by our favorite David Bruckner, who we, I sent five dollars to or not us personally but sure yeah but we did um we decided that we're fans we decided that we're fans he directed the ritual and the night house and there's no specific release date yet i don't think for the for the new um hellraiser but soon soon spooky season I presume At some point October would be my guess but Anyways the me thinking about

That got me in the mood For some more Hellraiser I really loved the first Hellraiser I also loved today's Movie which is Hellraiser 2 Or excuse me it's called Hellbound Hellraiser 2 Genius wordplay.

How many, have there been a bunch of Hellraisers? Is this one where there are like 18 Hellraisers? There are 10, yes. And I think I might try to watch all 10 before the next one comes out. Lee, crap. At least the first four. It seems the first four are kind of the

favorites, and then they do a nosedive after that into some not so great territory. But, you know, we'll see how far I get. I'm curious. I like this world, this world being hell. I love hell. Feels good down here. And for those of you listening, FYI, this is going to be a video episode. As I was watching it, I thought it simply must be seen. Some of these things must be seen. I think never, never a great sign for us. I think I found a potential new Halloween costume in here that I'm really excited about.

You guys will get to see that. Okay, now I'm back on board and I will say this is this is gonna be a video episode and i am gonna be eating grapes like a goddamn roman monarch and you have the little leaves behind you it's like almost like you're being fanned that's what i'll be picturing i'm wearing my cow jumpsuit just like just like the royalty ought your cow to toga. Your cow toga. If we're orienting ourselves, I am at a beach house and it looks like I'm in a sauna currently. It does. If you have like a red light, that's what it would be.

Yeah. And TBD on whether the house is haunted. Is there a sauna at this beach house? There actually is a sauna at the beach house, weirdly. I love a sauna. It's a little scary and old and not taken care of. That's maybe less fun. Haunted. I just realized I feel like I should

come clean because religious listeners of the bonus episodes will know I recently said grapes could go and they can but I didn't purchase these grapes. These grapes were purchased. I recently had family visiting. They got grapes. Left the grapes behind and they're pretty good.

I like them. I won't go out and buy grapes probably ever, but I will eat grapes if presented with the opportunity. Do you ever freeze grapes and then eat frozen grapes? Yeah, frozen grapes are so good. I don't, that doesn't sound good to me. It doesn't sound good. If you haven't had it, you can't say for sure. Well, that's true.

You're right. It's like a popsicle. The consistency feels like it would be tricky. It's like a slushy. It's like a grape slushy, which is kind of nice. But I gotta say, it slows down your consumption of grapes. You can't eat as many grapes when they're frozen. That's the thing. It's really, it's a slow process. It's not for really filling yourself up, I'd say. You're not going to get full on grapes.

Full on on grapes. Full on frozen grapes. No. Although I did have roommates in college who would eat so many grapes. Not roommates. They lived in the room next to me. And they would eat a bunch of grapes and then they would run around and yell grape bellies. And I don't know, like it's not even a story worth telling. No i think it was worth telling i really like it i love it there were just two 18 year old girls who would eat a bag of grapes each and then run down the hallway yelling great bellies i love them bag of grapes each i think they both had eating disorders, unfortunately. Oh, that makes it a lot

less fun. I know, I know. I hope they're doing better. Yeah, I hope they're doing okay. Who knows? I have no idea. I have no idea, but I do think about it when people eat grapes. I think about grape bellies a lot. I might be heading that

direction. You're going to be great belly after this I'm gonna be great belly Or maybe the first time in my life Anyway Hellraiser 2 Hellraiser 2 Let me tell you some stuff about it It was directed by Tony Randell

Written by Peter Atkins Based on A story by Clive Barker. Again, I wouldn't I don't know how many stories or books or short stories or whatever Clive Barker wrote or if he just wrote the first one. And then all of this came from that. Not sure, but it is starring Doug Bradley, Ashley Lawrence, Claire Higgins, Kenneth Cranham, Imogen Borman. And that's it.

And no other ones. I forgot to say and before Imogen. When did it come out? 1988. OK. And it is available to watch on Shudder. Dot com. Shudder dot com.

And so this is Pinhead behind you yeah this is pinhead behind me now yeah he's played by doug bradley in most of the hellraiser well i don't actually know how many he gets some some other actor plays him eventually but um yes pinhead was not supposed to be the central character of the hellraiser franchise but people just really loved him and so they how could they not it's the only thing i associate with hellraiser whatsoever because we're being very surprised when you when he like wasn't the main character same of the first one but i guess he becomes the main character because they used him for all the marketing stuff and for all the like video demanded it covers, things like that.

Yeah. And listeners, you should know that before we started, Henley said that he looked pretty hot. I'm like into it. And OK, so there's a picture behind Sammy for those who can't see of Pinhead. First of all, I forgot his name was Pinhead. I thought that was Hellraiser. I thought that was Hellraiser.

And he's wearing like a sexy leather jacket with some shoulder detail. It's like very skeletal, this leather jacket. It's shocking with a high collar, a high Victorian collar that really accentuates his jawline in a really beautiful way. And his face is just so deeply contoured. I mean, he's looking very he's looking very strong right now, I have to say. Yeah, I won't surprise you to hear that. I agree completely. Emily's voting the other side. She dissents. Look, he's got good bone structure structure but his face is covered in pins you gotta see past the pins i don't want to see past it'd be tough to kiss yeah

i don't know how you would i don't hard to get close hard to get close yeah hellbound Hellraiser 2 has a 50% on Rotten Tomatoes, 41% on Metacritic, and still staying true to that 6.4% on IMDb. Budget was $6 million. It made $12 million, which is, you know, it made money, but it's still... You know, I feel like some of the movies that spawned so many sequels, it's because they make so much money with the first ones and this isn't i feel like enough money for that but they kept going i guess they kept going with the love of the art rather than the love of pinhead and i didn't write down a ton of trivia but i thought this was funny this movie along with titanic hold the record for the most times two characters repeat each other's names the two characters in this movie are named tiffany and christy and i imagine jack and rose are the other ones but who's tracking these who's keeping track

there's no way that's so. Who's keeping track of that? I don't know. But it's pretty wild. On IMDB, the user submitted trivia, so it must be true. I have to say, I think this is another sign. Titanic is coming up again. Titanic just keeps coming up. It's true. It might be a sign, Emily.

Might be time. Might be time for you to see it. And this film is included on Roger Ebert's most hated list. Another one. There we go. Yeah, he really, really hated it. That's great. I want to see that full list. I'm curious. I had a great time. I thought, I don't know know i just really enjoy these movies i think they're so silly and are they trying to be or yes i think they're trying to be like very gory and have imaginative gore in it okay maybe at the time was really disturbing, but it's

pretty dated. Some of it is really disturbing. There's one scene in particular that I was not happy with. Oh, no, no, no. I think the writing is intentionally trying to be silly, yes. Towards the end, I'll call it out, there's one character that literally every single line out of his mouth made me laugh it's so funny

oh god but um i yep i had a good time highly recommend okay okay and i guess we have to hear about it i'm excited to tell you guys about it. But before we do that, should we watch this trailer? Yes, please. Yes, please. Yes, please. Henley loves Pinhead. Henley wants to see her. There's hottie.

I've come in with the energy today to be optimistic and to like him and to like this movie. I like this, Hen. That's what I've decided. It's a good attitude it's a good attitude the vision is renewed the power is reawakened

the fear The power is reawakened. The fear is reborn. Because they have returned. Time to play. Hellbound. Hellraiser 2. Brace yourself. Hang on!

For terror you have never imagined. And your suffering will be legendary even in hell. And horrors you can never escape. And you wanted to know. Now you know. Last year, they brought hell to Earth. Now, they'll take you through hell. No! No! No! Hellbound.

Hellraiser 2. Time to play. I'm remembering now, aren't they like really horny, these guys? Yeah. Sadomasochists from hell. They're sadomasochists from hell. They're sadomasochists from hell, that's right. That trailer was just wall-to-wall people screaming.

That's how it was. Just a lot of screaming. And wind. Screaming in wind. And darkness. Wind, darkness, screaming. It's interesting. Their version of Hell is really cool tones. Normally you think Hell, you think red.

Hot. Their version of Hell is kind of just an M.C. Escher painting. It's just little staircases and hallways labyrinthian yeah and like sort of gray stone kind of looks like a warehouse maybe it might and you know what that could be because it's a warehouse it's probably a warehouse it's probably warehouse you know that would be a bad place to spend eternity in a warehouse i wouldn't like it

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Let's go to hell. So, we start with kind of a brief little recap of the end of the first Hellraiser, which our protagonist in Hellraiser was Kirstie,

who her mom and dad were Julia and I can't remember, oh, Larry. And remember Frank was the one, the like bad guy in Hellraiser 1 and he I honestly don't remember. To the horny uncle? I don't remember like anything about Hellraiser 1. Okay, well I'm telling you.

You're going to tell us. Oh, you're telling us. You're telling us. Sorry. But the way you said remember Frank was the bad one, I was i was like no like my level of remembering is so low it does do two separate recaps in this movie so it'll be included in this district i need to i need to but this is just the end of the movie basically julia and frank who is larry's brother kirstie's uncle we're having an affair uh-huh right right right yes and julia realized that she could bring men to the attic and like blood blood let them and frank would absorb their blood and get stronger he started as a nasty bone and muscle died right he had died he had found the box

little puzzle box yeah that's the gate to hell yeah okay yeah or the gate to hell fucked with him and the way that kirstie was able to best them was by revealing to them that Frank had gotten away from them. Basically, remember, she tried to trade. They did a little trade. She was like, I'll give you him, and that was when we were like, well, they would probably just take both. You can't trade with a demon. You can't bargain with Cenobites.

You can't trust him. But again, it kind of worked, and she was able to solve the puzzle box and send them back to hell but her dad died in the process larry and julia also died well i guess everybody died except for her and her boyfriend and julia died on this on a bed i think frank killed her. And one thing Frank did was he took Larry, her dad's skin, to pretend to be Larry. And that

was part of also trying to trick them. Anyways, they all died but her and her boyfriend. And then we pick right back where we left off. Pick back up right where we left off. Which I like when movies do that. Kirstie is now in a psychiatric hospital.

Sure. Sort of a classic way to treat your surviving character. Yep. Yep. She doesn't look great. No. Okay. We've just pulled up a picture of Kirstie.

She's pretty green. Huddled in the corner, holding herself, looking to the distance. She's incredibly traumatized. Nobody believes her. She's saying, oh's saying oh no you guys gotta believe me like you know cenobites came up from hell and they killed my whole family and everyone's like okay yeah yeah sure okay and there's a detective on her case but he he quickly is like this is really a richter in the background there he has on his hips like and he quickly decides it's not really a case for the police it's more just she needs to be at this psychiatric hospital with a medical help and we also get a little flashback

to a longer time ago where we see the creation of pinhead and we see a human a human doug bradley oh i'm not as into the human doug bradley unfortunately me neither i like him as pinhead and pinhead alone yeah and i as this was happening i was thinking that silas would really hate this because it's like a little jack-in-the-box scene where he he has to do the puzzle of this box and he sets it down and it's playing a little song and opening up and he's peeking into it like what's going to come out of it and i was like i can see why silas thinks jack's boxes yeah it's because they're from hell they're demons from hell that are jack-in the boxes and in this it is yes uh yeah that's right it could be but we don't know is he like an archaeologist it looks like there's a little hat behind him that could

be like a good eye hen maybe on a map or a piece of animal the hide yeah i think most of the people that come into contact with this box are interested in that kind of thing. Because this is like a little artifact. It's not just like, it seems like people don't just stumble upon it. They search for it. It doesn't look like a normal box. Yeah. Yeah.

Stuff of legends, perhaps. Stuff of legends, exactly. Would have been a fun Indiana Jones crossover. Ooh. Maybe this new one never say never yeah we don't get much of it we don't get an actual backstory maybe in the other eight we will i'm sure we will but we just yeah see that he was some sort of explorer of some some sort and he finds the box and he opens it and it's a little jack-in- in the box and all these chains come out and stick into his flesh and then you see him being made into pinhead and

it is the little snakes they come out with little hammers and nails they nail them all over his head you just see these shots of these little snakes going sticking and what does he think is going to happen you know what i mean so people think they can use this box to like bring people back to life or something probably i think it's just sheer curiosity um just of another realm pressing some buttons what's gonna happen figuring it out yeah i think they're probably not thinking too far ahead about it rather just the fact that there's another world in this box probably they maybe don't believe that is true want to prove that is true without thinking like well that could be pretty bad if that is true and i'm about to open that but so okay so we just get that little scene of the creation of pinhead

and then we meet we're back at the hospital and we meet kiersey's doctor his name is dr chenard and his assistant kyle dr chenard immediately has a pretty sinister vibe for being a doctor at a psychiatric hospital he's kind of we meet him doing tests on a patient that i don't know seem bad he's drilling into people's heads and it that, I don't know, seem bad. He's drilling into people's heads. And it's like, I don't know if they need that. Yeah, that sounds bad. That's not good.

Doing brain surgery, maybe electroshock therapy. Those kinds of unethical things. He looks a little evil scientist-y. Okay. Okay. And Kyle, his assistant, seems a little nicer kyle as the assistant is just so funny it really made me laugh it really made me laugh pinhead dr chenard and kyle the assistant anyway here's kyle so they go they go in to talk to Kirstie and she is, again, panicking, talking to them, saying,

no, you're like, I need help. This is for real. You guys need to believe me. I wonder if I was Kirstie, how far I would push it and when I would just be like, oh, fine, just give me enough drugs so I don't even remember like that this happened. Like sedate the hell out of me, please, for the rest of my life. Thank you. Certainly, I think you the rest of my life. Thank you. Certainly, I think you'd get there eventually, right?

Yeah. The next part of the movie kicks into gear pretty quick. So luckily, she doesn't have to sit in her not being believed for too long. But yeah, that'd be its own kind of hell, right? Bring me a bunch of beach reads. Give me the most Xanax that's ever been given to any human being and I'll just be fine. I'll waste away with my beach reeds. So they're talking to her.

Kyle looks sympathetic. Dr. Jannard, less so. He looks more like he's licking his lips like a new patient for him to do his nasty tests on you still laughing at Kyle I feel like Kyle's gonna be our hero it's so funny I was just trying to think about why it's so funny that it's like if it was like Dr. Jenard is assistant Jonathan that's not funny Dr. Jenard is assistant Andrew. That's not funny. Kyle. Kyle is a funny name in that context and I don't really know why

because Kyle is usually the name of the like teen bully or the teen. I feel like it's in the same camp as Chad type of thing. I was thinking Tad. Yeah. Chad Tad the monosyllabic Brad could also go in there. Exactly.

Even Brad to me is less funny than Kyle. Anyway. I agree. Kyle's a pretty good choice. But Kirstie, they leave her alone for a bit. And she tells them when they come in she tells them that Julia died on the mattress at her house

and that they need to burn the mattress or she'll be able to come back the way Frank came back because basically all it takes is bringing more blood to the wherever her blood is and she can regenerate type of thing that's what happened in the first

one with okay yeah yeah yeah and they're all like okay yeah we'll tell them and then she is walking around the hospital later and she peeks into a window and sees a younger girl with a puzzle and k walks behind her and says, sad, right? That's Tiffany. All she does is solve puzzles. Which could come in handy in a movie. Mom's around a puzzle box.

Sad, right? Don't worry about any sort of HIPAA violations. Let me tell you her deal. Just making conversation. You want to talk about any other patients here? All she does is solve puzzles. I don't have a medical degree. I'm just a guy.

I'm just a guy. Just a guy named Kyle. And Kirstie then goes back to her room and sees some writing on the wall in blood that says, I am in hell. Help me. And there's also at one point she sees, yeah, there's a no misconstruing what this message means. Pretty straightforward stuff.

And she does something pretty crazy. You can see her finger here is in this blood. She puts it in her mouth. No. Oh, my God. Why? One way to check if something is blood. Put it in your mouth.

Just see. Just in case. Something else? Looks like blood. I suspect it's blood. There's only one way to know. Like if there's any fluid on a wall don't put it in your mouth i'm not putting it in my mouth even if it's food i'm not putting it in my mouth no my god you

guys i have to tell you a story that's kind of a a long tangent but i think i think it's worth it oh no what is this gonna be i don't know if i've told you guys this before it was so crazy oh my god i had a party in my house in college and i think it was halloween and so there was a lot of halloween candy about chocolate bars twixes kit kats oh god oh god oh god and at some point this very very drunk girl oh no passed out in my roommate's bed. And eventually we got her up and we said, you know, you have to leave. You have to go home.

And one of her friends was downstairs, took her home. And. Right at the foot of the bed. OK. Oh, no. OK. I OK. I literally don't want you to finish this story.

I just don't want to know. I can check out. I need you to finish the story. I just don't want to know. Like I can check out. I need you to finish the story. Oh my God. There was something brown that I thought. No, Sammy. No.

No. No. And I was, my other roommate was there and I was like, she was like, oh my God, what the hell is that? I was like, it's just chocolate. There was like a bunch of chocolate bars. She was probably eating chocolate and dropped it. And I went to touch it. She slapped my hand away, said, don't touch that.

Went and got some paper towels, scooped it up, smelled it. It's poop. It's poop. And it was not enough poop to be a full poop. And the logistics of this made no sense. Your roommate changed the course of your life. Changed the course of your life. It's true.

It could have. You would never have been the same. One of my friends had just gotten a white coat for her birthday. A nice white coat. And we're trying to figure out this puzzle. How did one little blob of poop end up here because there are no like cats in the vicinity or anything like that no cats no pets no pets and it just didn't make sense and this was in the bed it was in it was at the foot of the bed

like on the on the floor next to the bed oh Oh, I see. I see. Sorry. And we were just really scratching our heads. What a conundrum. Did she squat and take a small poop right there? Or did it... Just the tiniest poop you've ever seen. So I had to get a little one out. And then in the corner, we notice my friend's jacket, white coat. Oh, my God.

Crumpled up, like balled up in the corner. And it looks damp. No. Oh my god. Crumpled up, like balled up in the corner. And it looks damp. No. Oh. Oh my god, I'm gonna throw up. We go and open it. It is full of shit. She's shit in the coat. Oh my god. Wait, how have you never told us

this story before? I don't know, just this like about to taste the blood really brought it all back because I almost tasted her poop oh my god she found someone's white coat white coat i mean i guess doesn't matter the color that's getting trashed no matter who's oh absolutely her mom is going in the trash her mom had just given it to her for her birthday and she's like it was it was really expensive like do you think you could dry clean it? And she's like, no, mom, there is a lot of poop in it.

There's a lot of poop. Oh my God. I'm doing everything I can to keep myself from, I'm trying to keep my composure right now, but it's struggling. Do you think that woman remembers that she did that? Do you think that's like a massive low point? I'd really love to know. What if I, you you know what i would love to tell that story and then to that girl and like unknowingly i mean she would never admit it but if i told that story to a group and she was in that group

do you remember who it is do you know who it is i didn't know who it was even at the time i was like who's this girl at the party like Like she was like, you can't even recall a face. No, no. That poor girl. That's so dark and sad. That was a bad night. It was a really bad night. She pooped in a stranger's coat. That sucks.

And then went to bed for a while. Next to the poop. Like didn't even try to flee the scene with time. Oh my god. next to the poop like didn't even try to flee the scene with crime you have to laugh because otherwise this story has destroyed me too dark for words yeah sorry i knew i i just knew i had to tell i really hope she's okay yeah i really hope she's okay we don't know her name or anything. We can't look her up. I mean, you were young, right?

Not that that... It was college. So, yeah, I was like 19 or 20. Yeah, but you're not like three. That kind of behavior is maybe okay. No, she's not a baby. Yeah, was she just a weird baby at her party? Was she a toddler?

Adult woman. I don't know how to recover from this. You know, I feel like we should, it's important to keep those stories in the back of your mind in case to remember that people are capable of anything, you know? You're like, this person, who I'm intimidated by, scared of, who knows? Maybe one day when they were 18, they pooped in a white coat and left it in the corner of the bed And went to sleep It's true she could be anywhere

She could be absolutely anywhere And anyone could have a similar story Okay well thanks for that Yeah you're welcome My goodness My goodness Okay well how do we move on How do we continue

She tries she eats the blood she eats the blood yeah we're getting right back into this other very feel-good story telling and she sees a body next to the blood writing and a skinless body again. That wasn't the first thing she noticed? I think it wasn't there at first. It appeared. Okay. Hold on. I'll get to that. But what's this? I just got to taste this

blood real quick. I am in hell. Is this blood? Prove it. Prove it. It looks like chocolate. Could be chocolate sauce. But she thinks it's her dad because her dad did die and she thinks he's calling out to her asking for her to help him then the next day we see dr chenard going to this basement does she see the body yeah she does but it's the kind of thing where then it... Like, disappears?

Yeah, she freaks out and tries to tell someone and it's gone. It's not like there's a body, like, sitting there. Okay. It's just a vision. She thinks a message from her dad from hell. Okay. So we see Dr. Trinard going to a basement level of this hospital where kind of the... Seems like the worst cases are the people with the most problems that it's

one of the more upsetting scenes in the film people in solitary confinement just screaming and he's peeking in on all of their windows and these are i think the people he does the most tests on maybe people that nobody else is checking on. And it's really very disturbing. And while he's down there, Kyle comes upstairs, talk to Kirstie. She says, I saw my dad. And he goes, Kirstie, your dad's dead. He doesn't even skip a beat.

He's just like, absolutely well suited for this job and she said yes she says yes he's dead and he's in hell and he's still suffering and i have to help him and kyle says i'll go get dr chenard she's like clearly really freaking out and he doesn't know how to handle it. So he goes to get Dr. And as he gets to his office, he overhears Dr. On the phone to the police saying, asking them to deliver the mattress to his house. And he says, yes, that's right. Not to the hospital, to my house.

Just in case anyone got confused about that. And the police are like, right on it. No problem. So that's absolutely. Yeah. How we can't handle evidence. You don't bring it to some guy's house. They even say it earlier in the movie.

We need to take this and log it as evidence. But they know. I guess he wants it. If he wants it. Sure. To his house. Yeah. Why house? Yeah. Why not?

Okay. All right. So after Kyle overhears that phone call, he brings Dr. Chouinard into Kirstie's room. And Kirstie gives another recap where she fills them in on that Julia had been cheating cheating on her dad larry with frank and then brought frank back by killing a bunch of dudes and then eventually frank killed julia on accident i can't remember how i think he like he was trying to kill kirstie and i don't know slipped and accidentally killed julia or something like that. And he so doesn't have any emotions, really. And so even though they were lovers, he just said, sorry, babe, nothing personal.

Killed her. I kind of remember that. Yeah. And she stumbled upstairs and fell and eventually fully died on this mattress. And Kirstie is telling them that that, you is how frank came back so i think julia could come back the same way something's gonna happen with this mattress probably oh and then she's saying and then the cenobites took my dad or frank and larry to hell okay so frank was wearing larry's skin and she i think thinks that because he was wearing the skin, both souls are now in hell type of thing.

So that's what she's explaining to them. Sure. And you see that Dr. Trinard is kind of like hearing this information, like maybe it could be useful information to him. Whereas Kyle is like, oh, sad, sad. Like, she's so crazy. Okay. sad sad like she's so crazy okay um but kyle is still suspicious about overhearing that mattress ordering arrangement sure and so he sneaks back to dr trinard's office that night and finds that the mat or no he sneaks to the house and finds that. Here's the mattress.

Oh, my God. That's terrifying. No, I think it is at the hospital at this point. Because he must have brought it to the hospital. That's the hospital? It's his office in the hospital. Oh, okay. Dr. Chouinard's office.

And Kyle overhears him coming up into the office so he hides behind a curtain and we see that dr chenard is brought in one of the patients from the basement to sit and he sits him down on top of the mattress i think this is the most upsetting scene in the whole movie and this is genuinely upsetting and the guy is just saying get them off me get them off me get them off me get them off me like over and over clawing at his skin he's in a straight jacket at first and dr chanard takes off the straight jacket and we see a shot of what the patient is seeing and he sees maggots all over his skin and that's what he's crawling

or scratching at and Dr. Chouinard just sits him on the mattress and then hands him a knife and just gives it to him and the

patient just starts cutting his own oh my god off oh my god oh my god it's real gnarly and sad and upsetting and he's screaming while he's doing it and at first the his office door is open and there's a shot of dr like closing the door being like oh this is pretty gnarly and loud and goes and closes the door. Kyle is hiding behind the curtain witnessing all of this and we see

him slicing his whole chest. There's so much blood. It's soaking into the mattress and eventually bloodied arms shoot up out of the mattress, grab him and crawl out of the mattress. Again, this is the the body world's looking muscle skinless body that crawls out this is julia and okay it's julia she kills the the guy and it yeah it's basically each person she kills and sucks the life from type of thing she

regenerates more but it's not she needs more than just the one so she starts now as a body world's looking thing let's see her oh wait you know who she looks like jim carrey in the mask yeah that's exactly what she looks like but like radioactive do you think that's where they got the inspiration from possibly that's an insane color what a color of red that is yeah my goodness okay here we go dr ch Chinard is watching all of this. This is what he expected to happen. Yes, he's not, doesn't seem like he's freaking out. He's not calm, but not freaked out and just observing wide-eyed and taking it all in and eventually takes her, Julia, back to his house. Like this?

Like this. julia back to his house like this like this and takes her back and he's like just come with me demon like join me at my house and she's like sure it all was at the house i'm not it could have been at the house i think because the patient from the hospital was there i got confused but maybe he brought the patient to his house maybe that makes more sense because he did say to bring the mattress to his house so that's probably happened. It was probably already at his house. Is she like talking like a human? She's talking and she says, like, I need more. I'm cold.

You need more than that. OK, I need skin. I'm cold. Yeah, but it's clear that she's not trying to kill Dr. Chenard. She sees that he could. She'll need an ally. She can't go out into the world like this.

It's more It's easier to have someone Bring people to you so Doesn't seem like she's gonna kill Dr. Chouinard But Okay here it is my Halloween costume So he wants he She's cold so he gives her

Oh no Oh my god he gives her Oh no. Oh my God. He gives her a pristine white suit to wear that gets immediately covered in blood. Oh this is incredible. So funny. What?

You have to do this. So he's like you're cold. You need some clothes. What do I have to offer you? How about this white suit this with no shirt it's so funny my god it's incredible and she walks up to him and sees this glass of white wine and goes wine and drinks that wine this is a perfect costume a glass of wine and this suit i mean absolutely nobody will get it and it will be pretty difficult so tbd but you could just you would you would you can't cover your whole body in fake blood like that that would be too uncomfortable what you have to do is you

got to do like a body suit yeah like one of those like they have like skeleton bodysuits you just do that and and you could dye it red or like paint cover it in like red paint that dries then just like slick your hair back do like red paint and red on your face red gloves even so you didn't wouldn't even have to have you know bloody bloody hands could be fun could. Could be a good one. I really like it. I want to help you conceptualize this. I also like the idea of extremely niche movie references. That's sort of your whole deal.

That's true. It's just continuing on. I'm very used to not being recognized on Halloween. But it's a good one. Oh, me? I'm Jessica from the beginning of Hellbound Hellraiser Julia

Oh god So They decide they need to take it a step further I think Because Dr. Chinard is Horny for her and it's not quite At the Point where he feels like he

can fuck her yet. Sure. Okay. But he can tell she's going to be so hot when she gets skin. And so they take it one step further and they goodnight mommy her, cover her in gauze and a beautiful gown.

Gorgeous. The shoulder detail again. Then they do start making out here. Gorgeous. The shoulder detail again. Then they do start making out here. Stop it. Dr. Chouard is like, okay, this I can work with. And they make out and he's pulling up her dress and I am like,

what, did he leave a vagina hole as a joke in my head? Of course he did. He did. It's there. It doesn't show them having sex sex but it just shows you a shot of her ungaused vagina i mean it's just like a bloody muscle part again oh my god oh my god is right i was not i wasn't expecting that i gotta say i was genuinely surprised by that turn of events. I didn't know they were going to have sex.

I don't actually think that they did or maybe they did. And it was implied. Yes. God. I was also surprised. I really thought in my head as a joke. I was like, oh, too bad he didn't leave a vagina hole. Oh, my God.

He did. He did. Wow. bad he didn't leave a vagina hole oh my god he did he did wow so while this is happening kyle goes back to kiersey he believes her now because he has seen all of this happen right yeah and he breaks her out of the hospital and while this is happening we see see that Dr. Chouinard is bringing female patients home to his home for Julia to kill and absorb. And she eventually regains her normal human form. This is her stunning, stunningly gorgeous. her. There she is. Stunningly

gorgeous. And, ooh, but the way she kills these women and other people is by taking, she's got long nails, and she digs it into the back of their skull and, like, cracks their skull open with her fingers, but then also kisses them and

sucks it all out their mouth. I don't know. It's gnarly. Holy shit. So, Kirstie and Kyle go't know. It's gnarly. Holy shit. So Kirstie and Kyle go to Dr. Chouinard's house. They're sneaking up. They're like gonna I don't know, try to I guess I don't know what their plan is

to confront them, get proof or something. And so they break in and they split up. Kyle goes upstairs. Kirstie stays downstairs. And Kirstie finds a picture of what we saw was Pinhead's human form in the beginning. And this is all with Dr. Chouinard's.

He has also a lot of archaeological dig looking things, books of artifacts and photos of all these different things and photos of the puzzle box. So it's clear he's been doing research into this world as well and probably stumbled upon this photo of Pinhead as a human somehow during that, I guess. And somehow Kirstie recognizes him and pockets the photo. She finds it interesting that Pinhead was human before. And Kyle upstairs finds in the attic or a room where Julia has been killing all the women. There's just, I don't know, ten women hanging from the ceiling all dead and drained. Ew!

And Julia pops up behind him looking like this in her evening gown and is just trying to... She didn't keep the suit. I know, that would have been... It's a great look. It's a really good look. And she at first is trying to act oblivious and like, oh, my God, isn't it so horrible?

Like, who do you think is doing this? We need to find the person responsible as she's getting closer and closer to him. And of course, eventually gets up to him, sticks her finger in his head, sucks his soul out, kills him. I know. I was surprised. I thought we were going to see Kyle through to the end of the movie. Nope. Kyle dies. Bye, Kyle. And Kirstie hears this happening, runs

upstairs and confronts Julia, who she hates, and is like, I'm ready to face off like they're going to have a physical fight. And Julia knocks Kirstie out with one slap. She's like, come at me. Slaps her. Kirstie collapses to the ground.

I'm breaking people's skulls just with my fingers. Like, yeah, we're good. Good luck. And so Kirstie is knocked unconscious. Good luck. And so Kirstie is knocked unconscious. And we see that Dr. Chinard and Julia have brought Tiffany back to the house because they want her to solve.

Puzzle girl. The puzzle box so that they can get to hell. So Dr. Chinard just wants to go to hell like for fun. He wants to see us. Yep. All right. And so they have Tiffany solve this box, which opens the gates to hell because that's where they're trying to go. Commence a lot of screaming, commence a lot of wind blowing. Yes, a lot of wind blowing, a lot of blue, blue light, blue light. And we see the Cenobites coming out. And I'll remind you that we have Pinhead, of course.

There are four main Cenobites from the first movie. Pinhead, Chatterer, who is my least favorite. He's the one that has no eyes. His eyes look like little, so, I don't know. They're gross. And he just goes. I don't like that at all. That's what I sound like when I sleep.

That's what I sound like all night long i had tooth dreams last night i wonder if it was from this and how sad is this i feel like my tooth dreams are all i had lost two teeth in this tooth dream and i was like trying to find them i was like well i have to bring them to the dentist so they can put them back in right but then in my dream i was also like well i have to sign up for dental insurance first Because I don't have dental insurance Oh my god dark Talk about a hell of a pre-existing condition If you sign up for dental insurance

Because you're missing a bunch of teeth I don't know that they let you I had a tooth dream not that long ago That I had lost like five teeth And it was because my tongue was too big I had pushed them out So in the dream they had to give me a shot I lost like five teeth and it was because my tongue was too big. I'd push them out. So in the dream, they had to give me a shot in my tongue to like shrink my tongue.

I got a needle in my tongue. It hurt. Wow. I hate a teeth dream. Me too. I feel like ultimately this was more of a tongue dream, which I haven't had before. Never had one of those. That did become sort of the theme of the... I used to love back-to-school shopping so much that I would tell my mom that I wanted to work at Staples when I grew up.

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It's like, I'm sorry. But his stomach is, it's like a slit open. And there's female Cenobite. She doesn't get a name. Oh, that's right. She's just called female.

And she also has a slit in her throat that there's metal bars from her cheeks to her throat, like holding it open. Ew. And they come out and they see Tiffany first with the box puzzle box. But Pinhead is smarter than that. And he says, she is not the one who called us desire. I sense desire is what truly called us. Like there's basically he's,

he can tell that someone made her do this. So they don't fuck with her. They're pretty reasonable. To be honest, reasonable demons. They're pretty reasonable to be honest. They're very reasonable demons. They think logically. They just like pleasure and pain. Yeah, they're pretty reasonable. They keep to themselves

mostly. Yeah. Unless they're called. And then it's like, well, who called me? They just want to do their thing in hell by themselves. So we see people now walking around through the maze of hell and this is what hell looks like oh lots of um cement walls yeah yeah just kind of infinite hallways labyrinth cubicles looking things and they they're all kind of split up now julia and dr chenard are together and tiffany runs in by herself and julia runs in by herself

looking for her dad i think tiffany just doesn't know what's going on christy christy oh sorry yeah kirstie kirstie kirstie i know it's hard not to say kristy kirstie kirstie and kirstie immediately runs into the cenobites and they remember her from not that long ago and they're excited to see her and take her soul and they because she tricked them last time or something by giving them frank even though i They're excited to see her and take her soul. And they because she tricked them last time or something by giving them Frank, even though I feel like she was pretty straightforward about it. I don't know exactly why they're mad. But she now Kirstie has the puzzle box and she starts trying to quickly do it. And she's saying, like, I'm going to send you back to hell. And he says, how can you send us back to hell? We're already here.

And you're also here so even if you solve that puzzle box it's not gonna do anything and she confronts them and says where is my dad i know he's here and pinhead laughs in her face he's got a good laugh he says your dad is your dad is unreachable in his own hell, just as you are in yours. She's super freaked out and starts running away. They don't chase her, but they call after and say, explore all you want. We have eternity to know your flesh. Right now. Then we go back to Dr.

Chouinard and Julia and they Dr. Chouinard is really. Blown away by all of this, like it's actually real. He's in hell. And as they get to this open space, they're on top of all these walls and can see far in the distance and there's this thing floating above that's this diamond shape thing and julia tells him that that is leviathan that's basically not satan but it's like who she serves and she needs to bring him souls and that's why she's brought dr chenard here and he while this is going on is getting all these flashes of all

the worst things he's ever done and he seems to be really um enjoying that. He's seeing all these surgeries, all these patients that he has hurt and all the pain he's caused. And it seems like it's taking a toll on him. And she opens a door to this little coffin looking thing and shoves him in here and shoves him in it and says you wanted to know now you know and as this door is closing there's these strips of razor wire oh my god. And into his face. And he gets shut in this little box. Oh, my God. I'll switch away from it. So then he's just trapped in a coffin with razor wires digging into his head? Yeah, screaming. And we also saw some nasty little worm umbilical cord looking things like digging into his flesh in different spots. Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew.

Ew. like digging into his flesh in different spots. Ew, ew, ew, ew. Ew. Meanwhile, Kirstie finds Tiffany and tells her to get out, basically. She says, you shouldn't be in here. Go back the way you came. Find your way out. I need to find my dad,

but you've got to get out of here. It's not safe. So Tiffany turns and runs. It's literally hell. It's literally hell. Really not a place for Tiffany. And Kirstie goes in further searching for her dad and she hears these moans coming from a room and walks in and there's basically three no six arched entryway looking things and these beds keep rolling out of them and rolling back in and in the bed under white sheets are women having orgasms so it's just like and they come out and the sheets are just like

lifting and you see like their naked bodies underneath and kirstie's looking at all this not knowing what to make of it what the fuck is going on there's candles everywhere and the it's basically like the beds are kind of drawers coming in and out from these archways and the women are just moaning and moaning and then at some point when they come out The white sheets start Getting stained with blood And it looks like this But they're still Orgasming Like it's very

This is like very hell raiser I feel like it's like horny But they're like dying too Like they're in pain I mean it all sounds pleasurable But yes they are dying yes But that's're in pain also? I mean, it all sounds pleasurable. But yes, they are dying, yes. But that's like part of it, right? I feel like the pleasure, the whole thing of the Cenobites is that they can no longer tell the difference between pleasure and pain, I think.

Okay, it's the same thing. That's like a big part of it. Okay. Which is also kind of like crimes of the future, huh? You know, I don't like placing the female orgasm in the space of hell you know i just don't like what that's trying to say about the female orgasm this is a political film i am not a fan of that you know there's an orgasm gap that we're all dealing with and um this kind of this kind of commentary isn't helping so that's all i have to say are you saying i should scrap my halloween costume

yeah because i think you'd be canceled you're gonna get canceled because of the orgasm they're very regressive the orgasm gap it's super repressive you're just supporting the patriarchy sand shit shit would have been good, though. Would have been good. And in this room, Kirstie sees Frank. Uh-oh. And in his human form, and he says, there's all these very cryptic, the writing in this is almost poetic, I'd say. He says, oh, Kirstie, so ripe in your confusion, so luscious in your pain and he's like approaching her and she's yelling at him where's my dad i know you took him and he's like super rapey if you'll remember from the first film he this is her his niece

and he's pretty rapey like gross with her the first time too and just very inappropriate like aggressively hitting on her and he approaches her and like laughs and admits that the person that sent him the met heard the message was him like your dad's not here i just took his skin and tricked you to get you down here like i've missed you wow great great lengths this one and he starts trying to kiss her and she tries to be um complacent tries to placate him type of thing. And she's like, OK, I'll do I'll do whatever you want. And she starts moving towards the sheets, which are now no blood again.

Clean sheets to one of these. She moves to one of the beds and telling him to come closer to her. And as he gets close, she pulls the sheet off and throws it on top of the candles and lights the whole place on fire basically and he starts melting in the flames and screaming screaming ensues and he's peeling off his own skin in this really gross way that reminds me of poltergeist which is one of my childhood there's's too much trauma. Skin removal happening in this film. A lot of skin removal. It looks waxy though.

It's like the house of wax, like that's peely skin. Ew, that one's bad too. And he's screaming. And then Julia arrives with Tiffany. Julia has caught Tiffany, prevented her from leaving. And Frank skinless is excited to see

julia he's like oh you've come back i always knew you would like i love you i've missed you and julia slowly walking up to him and they kiss and then julia rips his heart out of his chest. Oh, my God. Julia. And says, it's nothing personal, babe. That's what she says. Yeah, because that's what he said to her. So she gets him back.

It's nothing personal, babe. Wow. Ultimate revenge. He's not looking great. No. revenge he's not looking great no so while that's happening they're distracted for a bit and kirstie's able to grab tiffany and they make a run for it just down the halls which again it's hard they feel like they're lost it's hard to tell where they are it's just a maze and so they're making a run for it and then then we see the coffin that Chouinard was in opening and he emerges from it looking like this.

Oh. And he says, to think I hesitated. He is a Cenobite now. And he says, to think I hesitated. Ew! He is a Cenobite now, I think. He's a Cenobite! Oh, gross. Gross. The thing that's weird about it, though, is that that would imply that Cenobites are, like, already kind of evil before going in.

Do we think Pinhead was evil before becoming a Cenobite? This is interesting. Yeah. I don't know. We don't interesting. Yeah. I don't know. We don't know. I guess we don't know. He just didn't strike me. He didn't feel evil in that little glimpse we got.

It's true. But perhaps their need to explore this world that they shouldn't is. Outweighs everything else. Yeah. Becomes bad. He looks disgusting. What is on his head it's like um yeah it's leeches it feels yeah like a creature type thing it does look vaguely like an umbilical

cord going into his head but with a there's a blade inside yeah tentacle yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't like it there's a part where it almost it there's a spinning inside. Yeah. Tentacle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like it. There's a part where it almost, there's a spinning blade as it attaches to his head. That looks like it's scrambling his brain. Like in my favorite killing. You're next. You're next.

And he is looking like he's really enjoying it. is looking like he's really enjoying it. Ew! Then we go back to Kirstie and Tiffany and they're running and again, wind, a lot of wind is

now blowing so much so that they have to hold on to the walls. They're going to get blown away and Julia is walking towards them using the pressing on each wall to scale her way towards them. And Tiffany's falling in a way that she needs to grab onto something and she goes to grab onto Julia. And Kiersey says, no, don't, don't trust her, Tiffany. Don't trust her. trust her tiffany don't trust her and they both they each grab a side of julia and the wind i guess is so strong and they're they're falling and pulling so hard that they pull julia's skin

right off okay the skin it's just like the tablecloth trick yes tablecloth just simply cannot stay on i mean it's so recently attached it's true it's true it's brand new and then julia had had another puzzle box in her hand that's now in the shape of the leviathan more of a diamond shape and so we think maybe that has some sort of i don't know that could help them get out somehow so i think they grab that and they run and they do make it to back to the hospital room. They make it back. Okay. But the doors to hell are still open.

And through the door, basically right after them comes Chinard, Cenobite Chinard. Oh my God, what? Bursts through. Wait, it's actually pretty funny. Really prominent thighs. It's very funny. Is he on stilts? It looks like he's walking, trying to balance on stilts.

Wow. No, he's floating through the air. The thing on his head is carrying like lifts him in okay like a claw and those like arcade games yes and he has snakes that he can shoot out of his hands that have various weapons in the snake mounds like little saws or knives or as we saw earlier with pinhead little hammers and nails sure oh it's funny and this is when from here on out like every single line out of his mouth made me laugh he just has these very evil doctor lines so he comes in and says, the doctor is in. Okay. Good.

You know what? It kind of reminds me of that Arnold Schwarzenegger in Batman. Mr. Freeze. Have you guys seen that one? No. Winter has come at last. It's just those kind of lines that are very. Every line is a tagline.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great. You guys should see that one. It's really funny. It sounds fun.

Who's Batman in those? Is that Keaton? Michael Keaton? It's either Keaton or it could be Clooney because that was when I really loved George Clooney. Mm hmm. Or maybe Val Kilmer. I don't know.

But so he has all these evil doctor lines. He says, he says, your diagnosis does not look good. I don't know. But so he has all these evil doctor lines. He says, he says, your diagnosis does not look good. I recommend amputation and all the little snakes with their knives and blades start coming after them. He's just trying to sort of figure out

like which one is his direction going to be. What's my entrance line? I'll try all of them. Yep. And so they run back in to hell and run back into the cenobites and they're also saying they're funny dramatic lines this picture is a little dark but let's see we can kind of see them they love they're covered in chains yeah they love their chains they can like throw chains at people that's how they killed frank in the first one is they like right the chains have hooks and they sink them in and they pulled all into him basically

and they're saying okay now your more distractions oh i love this sammy and she says no tricks just information and she starts pulling the picture out of her pocket and they say trick us again and your suffering will be legendary, even in hell. And she shows him the pic of him as human and basically says, you were human before this. All of you were human before this. And this seems like news to them. They did not know this. They've clearly lost that memory.

Completely forgotten. And but as he stares at the picture longer pinhead slowly says i remember i remember this and it looks like maybe we're gonna have a moment here of kind of figuring out a new plan reevaluating terminator to terminator 2 situation yeah Yeah. And then Chinard busts in and again, probably says this, the surgery is open and there's no anesthesia. and he really easily overpowers the rest of the Cenobites. Makes real quick work of killing most of them. He kills female Cenobite, and we see as she dies, she's turned back into what looks like a human woman. Okay. He kills Butterball.

He becomes a human man. Kills Chatterbox. Chatterer. Oh, my God. Chatterer. It's a little boy. It's nine year old boy that's fucked up that's really fucked up i don't like that and pinhead starts turning human he's like shooting little lasers at him and each time he gets shot an element of his cenobite-ness disappears like first the pins disappear, but he still looks blue and then he starts looking more and more human

with each shot and then he turns and looks at Kirstie and smiles and they have a little moment and then Chouinard slits his throat. Kills him. God damn it, Chouinard! No more Pinhead? Wait, I don't understand. I thought Pinhead

He's in all the rest of them somehow, so they'll get around it somehow. But he dies in this movie, yes. Okay. Oh, Chnart sucks. Yeah, he sucks. Yeah, I hate that guy. I hate that guy. That's a dick. Tiffany and Kirstie run

while this is all happening, and they go back into the... They find their way back to the top of basically all the tunnels like this area where it looks like they're basically above the labyrinth. Yeah, the labyrinth and the Leviathan is above them in the sky shooting black lasers from it. shooting black lasers from it well something's going on and as happened to dr schnard earlier now tiffany is getting these visions i think the closer you are to this leviathan it has this effect on you where it basically plays back all of your darkest memories worst memories type of thing and we see that girl it's showing her the white coat and poop laughter laughter

oh my god it's just that party over and over and over again oh that does sound like hell yeah it is I mean they say how it's each hell is tailored to each person like that room was Frank's hell and they said your dad's in his own hell

Frank's hell is women having orgasms that he can't touch that's so funny they don't need you yeah and tiffany is seeing basically herself being taken from her mom at the hands of dr chenard soard. So it's clear that Dr. Chouinard has been doing medical experiments on people that he thinks he can get away with. I think the implication here is that they killed the mom, that these people were. Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know. He's really bad. Or maybe the mom is also in the hospital.

He's definitely very bad. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. He's really bad. bad yeah yeah wow he's really bad in between these bursts of her having these visions she's trying to solve this other puzzle the diamond puzzle diamond puzzle because that could be the key to get out somehow seems right and eventually dr chenard catches up with them. Now looking like this. Give him his little snake fingers.

I guess there is a little bit of snake fingers in here. Yes, there are. And this time he arrives saying, and how are we feeling today? I guess I'm mixing his voice up with Pinhead. He's vaguely British, which. Yeah, I like that. And how are we feeling today? And he says,

you have your whole lives behind you. Just truly every line is perfect. And he knocks Tiffany off the ledge and she's dangling now into this labyrinth. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. And then, yeah, he says, your case is closed, Tiffany.

I'm afraid it's terminal. And then Julia comes back and Chinard is excited to see her and it's like you made it you came back they kiss and while they are kissing i don't actually understand the logistics of this scene she does something that causes chenard's head to be ripped off by the thing that's clamped to the top of his head like it rips up and rips his head in half hamburger style for once oh a rare sort of rip instead of a hot dog split yes a horizontal head cut in half and then julia turns to tiffany after chenard is dead and reaches to help her up and says trust me which kirstie told her not to do but she's dangling off this ledge i guess she doesn't have much of a choice she grabs her and she julia helps her up and then julia rips off her skin to show that it is actually

kirstie under there kirstie found her skin and put it on in order to trick dr chenard okay the way that skin is used in these movies is insane also she she was so she made out with dr chenard yeah it's gross yeah oh no she really she did what she had to do oh she is not this this is even more traumatizing she was not doing well before no okay so she gets tiffany up and and Tiffany solves that puzzle. The gates to hell, they find their way back to the hospital. The gates to hell close and they like basically pack up their shit and leave. They're like another day. I couldn't find the photo of them like fully leaving the hospital, but they're like. They look pretty good for what they just went through.

Their hair is clean. Yeah. They're looking fully dressed. Yeah. Wow. So they made it. They made it out. Okay.

And then... Great. Great news. We get a scene of movers basically clearing out Dr. Chouinard's home. And someone sees the mattress god damn this fucking mattress and i don't even know if they bleed on it but somehow hands shoot right back up out of it kill one of the movers another mover hears it and comes up to see what happened and both bodies are gone but from the center of the mattress rises this pillar and it turns around and it has the faces

of all of the cenobites basically like the skin the faces, are part of the pillar type of thing. And they're all screaming. Okay. And one of the face that it lands on is the guy from the very first scene of the first movie, who is basically a man working at a market selling items that asks, What's your pleasure, sir? And that's the end of the movie wait what okay okay oh my god oh my god so okay that was a lot that was a lot it was a lot. It was a lot. Did you guys have as much fun as I did? I mean...

It wasn't not fun. I think it was great. I'm excited to watch the rest of them, and I'm very excited to watch the new one. Wait, what were the faces in the pillar? Were they the Cenobites? They're the Cenobites. I thought the Cenobites were dead. I'm confused. They just came right back to life. They became a pillar. They just came right back to life. They became a pillar.

They turned into a pillar. I think that Roger Ebert would agree with you here. His criticism of the film was that none of it makes any sense at all. And I think that's fair to say. I think it's less about the rules and more about the vibe. Yeah. More about the vibe. It's just a strong vibe and nothing

can beat the vibe of us. This strong vibe and nothing can be absolutely a vibe of a skinless woman wearing a crisp white suit tell me a better vibe oh my god yeah there's no no better vibe no better vibe than julia my absolute queen i'm obsessed with her that's what the suit has uh shoulder pads god i love it i really i really want this for you glass of white wine it's chilled you can tell it's yeah you see the little condensation wow okay that was crazy it was was important to do it as a video app the visuals really helped yeah it just felt like you guys had to see yeah uh would you guys ever watch this movie no absolutely not like not

even a little bit i think it's like it's not even that i don't feel like i could it's i just absolutely don't want to yeah because i feel like it kind of falls into that evil dead category where it's it's silly enough that and funny enough that it's probably worse to hear about than to see i would argue that for me it's not doesn't seem funny or fun enough for me to still want it's certainly not as funny as evil dead i think that's fair to say. But I did honestly have a pretty good time. Yeah. Yeah, me too. Me too. Listeners, tell us your thoughts on the Hellraiser franchise in general.

It's like one of my favorites of the horror franchises, I got to say so far. I mean, I've only seen two. People love it. People fucking love it. I would be fine to be at like a Halloween party and have this movie on in the background. And every now and again, you can kind of like look and be like what's going on now yeah um but that's a good background movie that's about it i feel like it's sacrilegious that i don't like i don't have much attachment to the the horror franchises that are so iconic like pretty i think a lot of people who have those attachments it's because they watch them like when they were children, essentially.

Yeah. Or like they saw a lot of them when they were younger. Nostalgia, I think, is a big factor. Definitely. Yeah. Because, you know, Halloween, I don't feel like I want to watch all those movies. That's another one where there's another one of that coming out in October. And I just.

Yes, the last one, though. Halloween ends. In theory in October. And I just... Yes, the last one, though. Halloween ends. In theory. Yeah. And I just have no desire. Is Jamie Lee Curtis in it? Oh, yeah. She's in all of them.

She's been dealing with Michael Myers her whole life. Too much. So it's been a lot. A real will they, won't they? A real will they, won't they? I love that that's really really funny that's really funny

they just hook up at the end of this one it ends in love Halloween ends and a romance begins but yeah I gotta say I prefer Hellraiser to Halloween great sorry alright she said it.

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