Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HELLRAISER (2022)
Episode Date: October 12, 2022Pinhead is BACK and it's almost like she wants this mysterious puzzle box to be solved??!!! This week we're recapping David Bruckner's new HELLRAISER and sharing all the gory deets about our ...favorite sadomasochists from hell. This version could have amped up the horny vibes, but we're thanking Hell-God that Pinhead is still hot though!! You can watch the new HELLRAISER on Hulu TRAILER Recap beings @ 34:33 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily and I'm too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies, so I watch them so that you don't have to.
And spooky season is upon us.
We are in it. We are right in it. We are in it. We are right in it.
We are in it.
And I'm loving it.
And I'm thrilled about it.
I hung up my Halloween lights.
And we've got a great new release to talk about today.
Oh my gosh.
So many new releases.
I'm so curious.
I'm so deeply curious.
Yeah, I love spooky season.
I think it's my favorite time of the year.
I mean, that chill in the air is so nice.
I don't know.
Do you guys even have that in L.A.?
It's beginning to be not hot.
Great.
It's just warm.
At night, we have entered into the normal L.A.-ness of the sun goes down and it is chilly.
Yes.
LA-ness of the sun goes down and it is chilly.
Yes. Which that
I have every year.
When summer comes around, I
love that you can have a warm night.
And then I so quickly forget that that's not
the norm. And then the cool nights come back and I'm like,
oh, thank God. Yeah. It feels good.
You can sleep with your window open
under a bunch of blankets.
We feel like we're officially done with the
bedroom AC, fingers crossed.
So, you know, we're getting there.
But neighbors have put up, you know, ghosts in the trees.
There's this house up the street that has very funny full body little skeletons like that.
They like put one in a tree like hiding in the tree and one's like in a bush like sticking its little hand out.
It's like a very fun little scene of sneaky skeletons.
And it really makes me happy.
Have we talked on the podcast about Sammy,
your insane neighbor who has that spider on their house?
It's gone.
It's gone.
What?
Well,
I think they moved.
Oh,
and the spider went with them.
Sorry,
spider didn't stay.
Spider comes to the house.
They took it with them.
spider didn't stay spider comes to the house they took it with them um but the house directly next to me usually does quite an elaborate christmas light thing so i'm hoping that they also do an
elaborate halloween decoration thing but i also am down to like find what part of la has
the best halloween decorations There's like always a neighborhood
in every city where
it's like, okay, if you live on this street, you gotta
fucking go all out. And I want to find that.
Wait, wait, wait. I went to this
place. I went there.
I went there. It's near
Sierra Madre. So like north
near Pasadena.
There's a little neighborhood
that it's like it's like neighborhood universal
Halloween of horrors. Universal's Halloween of horrors. Is that what it's called? What's it
called? Halloween horror nights, but it should be called Halloween of horrors.
Same thing. Same thing. Most of the same words in there. I knew what you meant, but Tim and I went one year with
because he did the Big Brother
program and we took his
little buddy to
this place where they do trick-or-treating
and all the kids get candy. But it's
in order to live on this block.
Candy.
Candy.
You have to sign up to basically do this insane
elaborate halloween extravaganza every year and it was shocking my jaw was on the floor the entire
time i couldn't believe the amount of effort that was put into it yes okay there are some articles
about this sammy and i and and let's go who let's do it. We're going to go. Speaking of haunted houses, we have a little bit of haunted housekeeping to do.
Yeah, maybe.
And that haunted housekeeping is that we have a live online worldwide live show that we are going to be doing for our pre-Halloween spooktacular
event. We are doing
a recap of
Orphan First Kill
with
the one, the only
Paula Tompkins.
Holy
freaking heck. It's going to be on
September 22nd.
October. It's going to be on October. It's going to be on September 22nd. October. It's going to be on October.
It's going to be on.
It's in the past.
It's going to be on October 22nd, 4 p.m. Pacific time, 7 p.m. Eastern time.
But hey, guess freaking what?
If you get a ticket to this show, the video of it will be available for 10 whole days, which means you can watch
this bad boy all the way up until Halloween.
So if you want to get in on those
visuals, and you're not free on the
22nd, 4pm Pacific
Time, 7pm Eastern, but you're free
at any point within those next 10
days, you can get a freaking
little ticky and you can
join us!
And you're going to want to see because
we're going to dress up. We're going to dress up. We're going to be in
costume. We're going to have little cocktails.
We're going to have a really fun
time. It's a little Halloween party
and we're
very excited to do
a live show that all of
you can participate in and
it's we will
we'll do a recap you'll be able
to hear the recap on the feed
after the fact but
we're gonna have to cut it down a lot we're
gonna do some fun stuff in our show
portion that'll be own
one time only only for the show
exclusive it's exclusive
content and
we're so very
thrilled that we're gonna have have PFT with us.
What's his costume going to be?
We don't know.
It's going to be amazing.
And where do we get tickets for this?
We get tickets.
This is so great to ask.
This is the question we got to be asking.
And we get tickets for this at moment.co.tsdw.
That's M-O-M-E-N-T dot C-O slash T-S-D-W. That's M-O-M-E-N-T dot C-O slash T-S-D-W. The link is on our Instagram.
We are going to post a little video on our Instagram highlights telling you what the deal
is with the show so that you have easy access to that information. Again, by the time this episode
comes out, you got about 10 days to buy those tickets for that show.
And then once you buy those tickets, you got about 10 days to watch that show.
And we're going to really do our best to put on a great freaking show for you.
It's going to be fun.
I can't wait.
We're going to have a great time.
I'm very excited.
It's spooky season.
We got to go all out.
But OK, other than it being spooky, scary season, did anything scary happen to us this week?
So right now, this time of year is also reminding me of last year at this time, because last year at this time, I had given birth to Silas.
How many months had it been?
Three, three, three, three months, three months.
And that is when all of my hair started falling out. You guys may have noticed that we've been
doing some ads for Nutrafol, which is the supplement that I started taking when literally
my hair was like coming out in clumps. It's really crazy that that happens
because it does. It happens to so many women. You get like all this hair and then a bunch and then
it and then it falls out. Bodies are so weird. It's wild. And it doesn't it's not just for like
postpartum too. Like I've you know recently been learning a lot about it. And 50% of women experience hair loss, like significant hair loss.
I guess it makes sense that it wouldn't just be men.
And then also all women experience some amount of hair thinning throughout their life.
Like it's just very normal.
Like it happens to literally everyone.
Yeah.
And so I've been taking these supplements.
They're really working.
My hair is growing back, but now it's like I have weird side bangs.
You do have cute little wispies.
I really have loved watching them grow.
But yeah, they're getting long.
It's like 2005 again, and I have full on side swept bangs.
And there's nothing I can do about it.
But at least my hair is growing back.
I think the supplements are
helping. I don't know. I think I'm seeing those. I'm seeing those wisps come through. I'm seeing
them, but there's something also that I wanted to share, which is that there's a website and a
Facebook group called shed the silence.com. And it's a Facebook group too. And basically it's a
community where women can
share their experiences with hair loss and just try to like connect with other people who it's
happening to and get like tips about how to manage it and get some like emotional support around it,
too, because it can be really like a vulnerable experience because your hair is so important and
it makes such a big difference in how you feel and look and to all of a sudden to have like a really important part of your like physical
appearance really change drastically. I was lucky because it was during COVID. So I just got to stay
inside the whole time. I didn't have to show anyone my bald head. I wasn't bald. I just lost
a lot of hair around my hairline. Yeah.
And it sucked.
It really sucked.
Anything like that, we've talked about that with like any sort of medical body stuff,
mental health stuff, anything.
Yeah.
It can feel so isolating.
That's always like the hardest part is to just, it makes you feel alone.
And that's so nice that you, I mean, you almost, that's also like none of us are that unique right
like if you're going through something somebody else has gone through it too and it's it's like
helpful to be able to find those people yeah yeah I think it is because it's not talked about enough
it's something that I certainly didn't know about at all until going through it um and it's just
you know it's a thing and it's, it's a thing and it's okay.
It's a thing and it's okay.
And I love your little bangs.
My little hair is growing back slowly,
but surely it's getting there.
It looks great.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I love you guys.
Love you.
Love you.
Tell me what's going on with you.
Um,
so,
okay.
So my scary thing I'm gonna talk about this,
this happened on my flight back from Canada,
which, um, look last week's episode episode human centipede episode sorry i brought it up um we recorded
before canada i'm just saying we were recording before canada so this is the first episode that
i'm recording after canada we'll be behind the curtain of how the scheduling works out but i'm
just going to talk about a thing that happened which is on my flight back, I had a really very stressful travel day, which is, you know, I got to the airport very early because international flight, you know, you want to be responsible.
So, you know, I get to the airport immediately on my way to the airport.
I get a text from the airline saying your flight is delayed.
OK, fine, whatever.
This happens.
Who cares?
And then pretty much every 20 minutes i would get a new
text being like your flight's delayed a little bit more your flight's delayed a little bit more
to the point where like the text started to be really triggering to me like my phone would go
off and i'd be like no and i would look at it and it was like your flight's late your flight's late
your flight's late and every time i got i got the same message which is um okay here's the here's the
message from it from air canada am i blowing up their spot they were a fine airline bleep that
out no don't it's fine um i don't blame them but uh please note that your flight has a revised time
due to an unscheduled maintenance issue within the aircraft that needs to be resolved okay that's
stressful right you don't want to hear that your plane has a maintenance issue but so then they say they know they're like
you're stressed we get it so the the message continues an example of a maintenance issue
could include repairing a broken seat the in-flight entertainment system console or other
components right so you're like oh okay right it could be anything it could just be a broken seat
that's fine that makes sense that's cool that's cool But I'm getting this message over and over
And over and over again
The seat is really broken
So my flight was supposed to be at 5pm
It gets pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed
To 8.30pm
Mind you I've been at the airport
Since 1.30pm
It's been a long day
But I'm like okay great
Finally we're taking off 8.30 great time to board
Get to the gate at 8 o'clock I'm at the gate
Flight's cancelled
And it's one of those
Planes that it's a big one
That has three rows
I mean three like you know
A middle row of four seats
A huge plane
And it's the end of the day it's night time
It's like there aren't going to be so we all everybody has been there for this long everybody's stressed
out it's a bunch of fucking americans you know going to la you got to go across the airport
and get in a big line to get them to like get you on another flight or something so i get they
immediately so but they got so long story short they did Manage to they had another flight leaving
For LA that was always scheduled for
8.30pm that had only booked
20 seats like why would they do this
This is crazy so they ended up putting like
Our entire flight I was gonna say
That must be like 400 people
That they had to reroute
And they were all so mad
Basically anybody who had checked bags
Couldn't get on that flight.
But anybody who hadn't and could just like take their stuff with them got on that flight.
So they filled that flight up that had had like 20 seats booked.
Thank God you didn't check a bag.
I know.
I literally I do.
For the first time in my life, I had to like run across the airport to try to make the
flight, even though they put everybody on it.
So they shouldn't have said I had to do that.
But they're like, can you run there?
And I was like, of course I can run there.
I need to fucking get home.
Anyway, it was a long day.
It was very stressful.
But I just wanted to share the email that they sent when they canceled the flight because.
Oh, no.
Here's the.
So remember, the first email it's been.
You have a maintenance issue.
This could just be a broken seat in flight console entertainment console.
Next email.
We're sorry flight from toronto
los angeles is canceled due to an unforeseen aircraft maintenance issue an example of an
unforeseen maintenance issue could include recently detected maintenance uh affecting
key aircraft systems such as flight controls navigation systems or hydraulics and it's like
it's so clear the messaging of like when they're delaying it they're like don't worry it's the
seat and then they cancel are like hey probably was a navigation system keep in mind we had just
recapped a final destination film as well yes my god it's just like which one is true you know
if anybody works on denver is playing on the radio if you want to tell me like which one it usually is when they
do that because it's like I don't love to hear that it could have been your uh like flight
controls and you were just gonna put me on the plane this is reminding me that on my flight
that took was also delayed not as badly as yours not nearly as badly but was delayed like an hour
and a half did they tell you the same thing they they told us they said lots of the same bullshit but the thing that was crazy was
we started to take off you guys we're going down the runway we're like really fast about to take
off really really about to wheels about to lift off stop we stop oh we like come to a screeching halt oh god and then we turn
off the runway and then we stop the plane completely and the pilot gets on and it's like
um we had to terminate uh take take off because our uh like emergency lights for X, Y, and Z came on. We're going to run a check and should take 15, 20 minutes.
Just sit tight.
Oh, Jesus.
It was like, I don't want to take off on this plane now.
Let's get off the plane.
This is reminding me of when I was at the Orange County Fair once.
And I was next in line for the ride, the zipper.
Oh, my God.
I hate this story.
And as I was about to to get on it they stopped the
ride because a screw fell off and a guy got out with his like tool belt and climbed up on it and
like screwed it back in and then was like okay get on you're next and i got on it and i just
i was like well i'm about to die but it's my turn and he says to do it so here we go
you're like this is what's happening i don't
want everybody to think i'm a big baby i'm gonna get on a ride like this is why we do it for the
adrenaline rush of almost being dead that's true just a bunch of little ants you know just go along
with what we're told yeah anyway i made it home but it was a it was a hell of a day that's a long day i hate airport stress it's no fun it's no fun at all um i my cat
has asthma and um i guess this is more scary for him than it is for me but uh we've had to start
using a cat inhaler oh my god God. I can't believe it.
It's so funny.
It's so funny and cute and sad.
It's basically,
it's a human inhaler that you buy,
which is expensive.
And again,
scary thing,
American healthcare system.
But you have to buy this attachment that is this old tube that then goes to a
little thing that you put on his little mouth and it covers his whole face. it sort of looks like the end of it looks like like the mask they have you
they tell you to put on on an airplane yeah kind of like a little mini lower cabin pressure a little
mini plunger looking thing cone over his face yeah and i made the mistake of initially approaching it as the same way i do when i cut their nails which is 100 by force and
like we're gonna do this and i'll wrap you up in a little blanket and cut your nails and you're
gonna be fine even though you're gonna be miserable without realizing that i'm gonna have to do this
theoretically twice a day maybe forever and oh god and that maybe it should actually it'd be easier if it was a pleasant
experience for both of us and not like a forced horrifying traumatizing thing right right but i
like put that in his mind first by initially taking that approach and so now he's scared of it but i've been doing a lot of work to try to course
correct and bought the little gogurt treat cat gogurt meat treats so gross so gross cat gogurt
meat treat and i put it on the little mask so he has to lick it off of there so he's associating
the mask is good the mask is good the mask means treats but then he'll remember that it's bad and it's just such a funny
so he'll now beg for it in after because it's after breakfast and dinner times that we do it
and so he knows that's coming and he's excited for the treat part but so he'll stand there and
whine and be like mom it's time for it's time for the treats, time for my inhaler. And, but then when I do it, he like gets really stressed again and he hates it.
And it's this, just a very funny, sad daily routine.
Now that we have to do of him just being so caught between loving treats and hating the inhaler.
Cause when you actually do the inhaler, that scares him, right?
Yes. But I can,
I can press it away from him because it has, it can,
it stays in the chamber for a little bit.
So I don't have to like do it right on his face.
Cause the little puff of air scares him.
So I can do that kind of away from him and then bring it onto him.
But then, yeah,
I do kind of have to hold it onto his face and hold his,
hold his little body and press it on him. And it has a little flap that measures his breaths and it goes really fast
because he's always freaked out so it's like oh but oh man you know it's for his health to do it
though he has a little asthma it's for his health he has had a little asthma attack since so that's very good wow
that's great news but it's just a very funny thing that now we have to do forever
oh my poor guy what beautiful boy um but okay let's get into this week's movie which is a new release that i have been very
very excited for it is hellraiser the remake reimagining oh it's not a sequel it's a
it's the first one over again concept i think it's yeah it's like based on this world yes
i think they're they are referring to it as a reimagining okay reimagining it is directed by david bruckner who we love from we
love david bruckner ritual the night house uh written by ben collins and luke petrowski story
by david s goyer based on the book by Clive Barker starring Odessa
Zion, Jamie Clayton
Adam Faison, Drew Starkey
Brandon Flynn, Goran Viznik
and Hayam Abbas
who is Marcia Roy from
Succession
huge, huge news
huge news, she's great
and it is streaming on Hulu
wowee, this is, you, i mean you love hellraiser it's
your favorite horror franchise you have a thing for the main character pinhead's hot there's a
new pinhead i love all the centibites looks hot pinhead's obviously the hottest yeah was it really
scary was this scary on a scale of one to scary how scary was it?
That's a tricky scale.
I'm not sure.
Figure out what that means to you.
On one end we have a number
on the other hand we have an adjective.
So where do we fit?
This is a choose your own adventure
scale.
Fill it in yourself.
The scale could be a sound.
That's true. I'd say it's a
Okay.
It's not too scary.
That feels like it's manageable.
It's manageable. I think, yeah, it was in the middle.
It wasn't, I didn't find it too scary.
It is, you know,
I was very excited because I read a review
saying that it was
gnarly, g gory and horny and
that's you know check check checking all the boxes for me yeah but in my opinion it could
have been earlier gory or hornier oh my god okay on a scale from one to horny where are we at
it's it could be that that's funny yeah it's it's definitely it's not even close to horny enough for me
yeah it's not a moan it's it's more of like a it's not a normal people level horniness
it's like an antidepressant side effect level oh wow that's not horny enough that's not horny enough that's like less than
horny that's less than horny okay again i think i'm confused with the scale we're off the scale
we're off the scale um it's it has some horny moments i think it could have been hornier
okay yeah but i think you guys would be disturbed by the gore and the Cenobite designs are pretty gnarly.
They're a little like CGI looking, which I wasn't thrilled about because in the originals, they're all, you know, like 100% practical.
And while the CGI like the designs are very, very cool, but there are just little moments where it feels a little fake.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I guess we'd better just let you tell us about it.
Yeah.
We could just keep doing weird scales.
I do want to just ask more questions, but why would I do that when you're going to tell me everything I need to know?
Yeah.
There may be time.
There may be time for questions.
Yeah.
We can throw in questions whenever you feel like it
i will tell you that it has a 69 on rotten tomatoes
nice nice nice nice nice has a 56 on metacritic and a 6.3 on imdb uh there's no budget info because it's a hulu movie so no box office either
wow it is the 11th movie in the hellraiser franchise i'd holy shit post an instagram
story saying that i was going to attempt to watch the previous 10 i forgot about that
that was an ambitious goal in six days because i only had six
days to do it so i had i had um i think eight movies to watch in six days and i did not i did
not succeed i didn't even make it close but i did watch um hellraiser 3 which was pretty good
hellraiser 2 is great which we covered on our patreon patreon.com slash tscw podcast if you want to nice um check that
out that will be that one really made me laugh it's i really loved it i think hellraiser 2 might
actually be my favorite yeah it's really good iconic iconic uh my halloween costume is going
to come from there so also iconic at one, it was set to be directed by Pascal Logier.
I'm sure I'm saying that wrong.
He is the director of Martyrs, which I'm scared when we do.
We're all, as you can hear, scared.
We're not happy about it.
And, you know, I'd be kind of curious to see his version as well.
you know I'd be kind of curious to see his version as well I hope I kind of hope that the Hellraiser franchise goes the way of like Alien where just each iteration is directed by
a really fucking cool talented director because I'd like to see different people's takes on it
even though I mean don't get me wrong I love David Bruckner and I liked this was directed
very well and I think he's oh hell yeah got um i was gonna
ask if we still if we're still fans we're still fans we're still fans congrats david i will say
that you know this is not my my favorite of the hellraiser movies but and it's not my favorite
of david breckner's movies but i think that's maybe more of a testament to how much i love
david breckner and Hellraiser.
And I don't know.
I think my expectations were very high because I love both of those things separately so much.
And together, it just I thought it was going to be the greatest movie ever made.
OK, sure, sure.
And it's not that, unfortunately, but it was fun.
OK. And it's not that, unfortunately. But it was fun. Okay. It's also, with this reboot, all of the primary golden age slasher icons of the 70s to 80s have been remade.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Child's Play, this last one.
Of like, you know, and those posters of wherever the iconic horror villains.
They've all been remade.
Nightmare on Elm Street was remade?
Yes.
Remember it had Jackie Earl Harley as Freddy Krueger.
He's Rorschach in Watchmen.
He's like a real creepy looking dude.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That guy scares me.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That guy scares me. And I didn't know this, but famous American makeup artist and RuPaul's Drag Race season 13 contestant Gottmik was screened in an audition as as the film entered pre-production for the role of Pinhead because David Bruckner saw in his Drag Race finale extravaganza look.
He dressed as Pinhead that's amazing which is
really cool um that is cool got mick ultimately did not secure the role um it went to jamie
clayton but both are prominent trans artists which i don't know i thought that was cool
that is very cool um and i went and looked up the photos of Gottmik as Pinhead and it's pretty great.
So you guys should look that up.
I'm curious.
That's a that's a strong look for a finale.
Yeah.
I do you guys watch RuPaul's Drag Race?
No, I don't.
But I need to.
I have watched.
I've watched some of it and I want to get into it again.
I love that show.
It's great.
Everyone I know that watches it is like obsessed with with it it's not just like a casual watch it's like your favorite show but okay should we watch this
trailer have you guys seen this trailer oh my god no i haven't seen the trailer i haven't seen
it but i want to see it and i get to to see it. And isn't that nice? Is the trailer horny?
Face, Emily.
I can't remember, actually.
I hope so.
We're about to find out.
I hope so. I hope so.
I hope so.
If I had to put my eyes on something, give me a little bit of, give me a little treat.
Give me a little horn.
Give me a little treat.
Give me a little horny treat.
Okay, let's freaking do it.
Beautiful, isn't it?
It's really nice.
You can hold it.
What is it?
It's a puzzle.
It's a puzzle.
And it's almost finished.
Keep going.
So if I solve it,
do I get a prize?
I do. What's your deal?
It has six sides, six configurations.
It opens up.
And it cuts you.
And then they come to collect.
It's time.
Greater delights await.
We wish to see you proceed.
Feed it.
Their blood.
Their pain.
All for us.
What is it you pray for? That's a hard pass for me
Do you guys think it's sexy at all?
Oh no not really
I think it's a little sexy
The beginning that like
Opening scene of like
Do I win a prize?
And the guy goes
I do
It's like that's
that's horny that's a little bit
horny yeah it's not
as horny as I would want
but it's a little
it's a little horny also for a second
there I thought that that first
guy was Ansel Elgort
and I was like what the he also looks like
Jacob Elordi to me
he's like very much that type of guy and then the guy who was like I get the fuck? He also looks like Jacob Elordi to me. He's like very much that type of guy.
And then the guy who was like, I get a prize.
For a second, I was like Hugh Jackman.
I'm like, everybody looks kind of like somebody else to me.
I find that I do that anytime there's a movie where it's not a recognizable celebrity.
I'm like, wait a second.
Who is this?
Let's slot in someone.
I need a recognizable name to attach this person blend. Let's slot in someone. I need a recognizable name to
attach this person to.
I'm luckily, luckily in a
very brightly lit room right now and
that trailer was just dark enough that
it was pretty hard for me to actually
see what was going on. I will say that's one of my
complaints about the film is that
it's like, you know how people
lost their shit over Game of Thrones
being too dark? I feel like it's like Game of
Thrones level darkness I watched it
in the dark at night time and
I still couldn't really see
oh boy
David
the color correcting on
this all the horny stuff was
in the background in the dark
yeah
the horny scenes were pretty well lit okay
okay um it does look freaky like it seems less campy yes than the original yes which i think
again is a downside for me sure but they were going for like let's actually make it like fucking scary
right but you know how like i think this speaks to also what one of the trivias of this being
the like final remake like all of these remakes of texas chainsaw and uh friday the 13th and
halloween and whatever like they always make them nastier in a way that is not necessarily
better.
Like Evil Dead 2 or Evil Dead 2013, Evil Dead, which actually I haven't seen.
So I don't want to offend anybody.
Maybe it's amazing.
But I feel like there is kind of this you like lose a certain je ne sais quoi.
There's like an artist artistry.
That's just hear how well I said that.
Yeah.
Je ne sais quoi.
It just rolled off the tongue.
I got nervous right before I said it,
that I was going to say it wrong.
And then I said it pretty good.
Pretty fucking good. I'm afraid to see you guys be like,
Oh shit.
Yeah.
That was pretty good.
Well,
there's some flattening that happens with like CGI and these technologies
that now we're now able to use where it's like
cheaper and easier to do this kind of gore so people are doing it it's like better but less
visceral so it's worse yeah and less individual less like unique there's like something is gained
and something is definitely lost yeah um and i apologize in advance my description of the
cenobites is gonna be real rough because i don't know how the fuck to describe these things.
But I'll do my best.
You always do.
You always do.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's all we can ask of each other.
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dive in okay we start in serbia we see hi i'm a boss she uh i don't know if i'm saying that right
but it sounds like hi i'm a boss and she is yeah it does hi i'm a boss her character's name is serena we see her exchanging suitcases with some strange man
clearly a suitcase of money being exchanged for the puzzle box that we remember from the original
films the puzzle box uh will remind, is when you solve it,
it basically opens the gate to hell.
Is she buying the box or selling the box?
She is buying it.
Buying the box.
All right.
And that's all we see.
And then we cut to in Massachusetts now
at some fancy party at a mansion.
Serena is there as well, sipping on a little martini and we
see a young guy pull up next to her he's clearly heard something about the man that owns this house
the person that owns the house's name is roland voight does he sort of have a Hugh Jackman quality? Yes, he does. And he clearly
has a reputation of having, I don't know, like some sort of forbidden artifacts or something.
You know how people have that reputation.
And so he's like, there's a room in this house somewhere filled with forbidden artifacts.
I love it when I go to a party, someone pulls me aside, says that.
That person is Serena and she does exactly just that.
She says, go through those double doors.
And it's clear that this guy, his name's Joey.
He feels like very excited by this and like honored that he's being asked to go through these double doors.
And does he have a sort
of ansel elgort jacob alordi quality guy very much does great great and i'll just say he's in a tank
top his muscles are rippling so he's hot he's hot he's horny as hell it's a little bit we're
getting our first little horniness here he's like young, young and hot and clearly very intrigued by whatever's behind these double doors.
He goes in. He sees the puzzle box.
It's now in a different formation than it was the first time we saw it.
First time it was it was like a cube.
Now it's in this kind of almost hourglass shape.
OK. And he picks it up and he starts kind of twisting it little pieces of it move and then
roland voight walks in joey's embarrassed oh i'm so sorry i i didn't mean to um mess with your
shit while you weren't here he says no no it's okay it's a puzzle like solve it i haven't solved
it yet yeah like so if you were invited into somebody's room of ancient artifacts, would you touch it? Absolutely not.
I would not touch any of it.
No fucking way.
I'm not solving an ancient puzzle.
No. Also like,
this thing's probably worth like millions of
dollars. I'm going to get my grubby little
party fingers on it.
Yeah, not my party fingers.
Eating finger food, probably.
But he continues on and he solves it.
And as he locks it into place, it like clicks and a blade shoots out of it and stabs him through the palm.
He looks up like he's shocked and angered at Voight and stumbles back back and he's very quickly almost like he's drugged
he's getting blurred vision and roland voight is like looking like a little villain hands behind
his back like strolling up to him like oh god what's going on here like he knew this was going
to happen sure enough some chains blast into that room from a portal
somewhere an unseen location we know chains are pinheads and the cenobites kind of weapon of
choice is how they pull people into hell and that is what happens they did they have hooks on the
end of them and they dig into his flesh from like all different angles and at first pull him up.
So he's almost he's bound in almost like Christ like way behind Voight being basically pulled apart.
Ah, his screams are in the background as Voight drops to his knees and he's looking up into the sky above saying, grant me an audience with Leviathan.
I have given you everything.
And groans of pain turn into moans of pleasure as we cut to a sex scene between our protagonist, Riley, and her boyfriend, Trevor.
She's saying harder, harder. harder he's saying do you like that
she says I love it he says I love you and she stops the sex and says wait what
uh-oh uh-oh it's very funny to be like okay great this is my moment
I love you here's what you're gonna You're going to ask her if she likes it. You're going to ask her if she loves it.
Yeah, pretty wild move on his part.
And a little Chiron comes up saying six years later.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
So some time has passed and she gets up and like walks out of the room, not like mad,
but just uncomfortable and not wanting to
have that conversation so she's like kind of walking away from him and walks out into the
living room where there are three other people staring back at her awkward silence amongst them
and we find out this is her brother matt his boyfriend colin and their other roommate nora
and this is a very like awkward interaction Trevor comes out
like an original initially trying to be like hey wait let's talk and then sees that everybody's
there and they're all like oh uh hey uh I'm Trevor I'm Riley's brother Matt nice to meet you and do
awkward introductions and Trevor leaves he's. And after he leaves, Riley's like, you guys all just heard us fucking.
They say yes.
And Matt, her brother, does not like Trevor.
This is his first time meeting him.
But we find out that Riley is in recovery.
And so is Trevor.
And that they met in recovery.
And Matt doesn't like that.
And Matt has a very protective older brother vibe.
Okay.
And so Riley is staying at Matt's house during this time because she's not
making enough money to get her own place.
And he talks to her about that.
They have kind of a fight and he's basically saying,
you need to get your shit together.
You need to get a real job you're
not making enough money doing what you're doing right now and she gets mad and she storms out
after this fight and she goes to trevor's and she's complaining to trevor and he brings up that
he has an idea for a way they could make money. Oh no. This is how it always starts.
And he does that thing at first where he's like,
I shouldn't even,
I shouldn't.
I didn't want to bring this up.
I didn't want to,
I didn't think about this for a while.
It's an artifact that it opens up to hell.
And I feel like we could make some good money with some good money,
selling tickets into hell
he tells her that
there is a warehouse
that he picks up deliveries
from and
they're usually really he's
like I'm pretty sure a billionaire owns it nobody
lives there it's just like where they
store shit and drop shit off
and so there's
a shipment there right now waiting to be picked up
tomorrow i don't know what it is but it's whatever it is i know it's going to be worth a lot of money
i know the codes to get in and we could go and just take it in the middle of night like nobody's
there so they decide to do it they get in and there's just a safe and they break into the safe and find
the puzzle box and it's in its uh cube form and they're both kind of seem bummed like they thought
it was going to be you know you know stacks of money or sure money stacks of money worth stacks of money
yeah but they they figure it must be worth something if it's in this safe so they take it
riley goes back home and it's late now in the middle of the night and matt finds her coming
home and is mad and thinks that she's using again and i think this part was a little unclear to me i think she
might be pretending to be fucked up because she doesn't want to admit that she was actually just
robbing a place but i'm not entirely sure he thinks she's drunk and like fucked up and and she doesn't deny it, and then they get in another fight.
It escalates to the point where he kicks her out.
Oh, boy.
It's a pretty sad scene.
I mean, it, like, is stressful, too.
I mean, it's a heartbreaking situation
to have a family member dealing with addiction.
That is sad.
So it's a pretty emotional scene,
but she does. She packs up her stuff, and she leaves, and it's a pretty emotional scene and she she but she does she packs up her
stuff and she leaves and it's clear that matt doesn't feel great about this but it's obvious
that they've had you know this type of conversation before and she goes out and she finds
pills and she takes them i don't know what they are but she takes some pills so
clearly she now whether she was actually relapsing before she is now for real like she found a
dealer no she like had that i think she had like a stash somewhere that's maybe she she like hadn't
was like avoiding tapping into yeah okay and she takes the puzzle box and goes to a empty
park it's in the middle of the night a park in the middle of the night is scary yeah oh i don't
like it uh she's sitting on one of those little merry-go-round things you know oh my god very
scary terrifying most terrifying part of a park and i was always scared of those actually even
in daytime like that i would just fly right off of it that would get going too fast and fling me off
she starts twisting the puzzle box and solves it and the blade shoots out of it again it's
too easy to solve this goddamn puzzle it does seem pretty easy
it's almost like they want you to easy it's almost like they want you
to solve it's almost like they want you to do i think that is probably the case like wordle where
everybody gets to feel smart yeah everyone feels good afterwards yes yes it's the daily wordle
but the the way her hands are positioned when she solves it she avoids the blade
so it doesn't stab her but it does it's like on the other side of the box and it scares
her still but it doesn't stab her and so she's spinning on this thing looking at this blade
and she sees a figure in the fog like the mist of the park like a little further away
now is when the pills start kicking in and she
like lays backwards and starts like getting looking really out of it and she's looking to
see if she can still see the figure it seems like it's gone she stops it and she like stands up and
is looking around and hears a voice saying that blade was meant for you.
And then she sees one of the Cenobites,
not Pinhead.
This is,
I think they're re-imagining a female Cenobite.
Okay.
Okay.
She has,
I think they've called,
they've renamed her Gasp in this one.
I looked at the IMDB names and i couldn't quite figure out entirely who was
who but i'm pretty sure she's gasp and it's her throat is slit vertically and like pulled open
so her throat looks like it's all very vaginal i feel like the way this these like slits are
remember i used slit a lot in the last one sorry but that is just had the
only way i can think to describe it and like it's pinned back with pins and nails and her like skin
on her head is like peeled forward into kind of a hat so one difference between these cenobites
and the previous cenobites is that previously they were wearing kind of leather outfits like s&m looking outfits
now their outfits are their skin turned inside out so they're not there's no actual clothes on
them it's all just their muscle pulled taut in opposite directions like peeled off of them and
like then spread like almost like hide like cow hide on like weird little weird little pins
around them it's nasty but like very pretty cool fucking design yeah they did a great job designing
these but i do wish that the cenobites had each had a little clearer of a theme personality or
theme yeah because i found it kind of hard to differentiate them at times in hellraiser 3 by the
way i don't know if we'll ever do it but there is one cenobite in it that was a dj and so his
his cenobite personality is he has cds that shoot out of him and like stab into people
that's that's incredible ridiculous funny a dj that really makes me think what would
our cenobite vibes be that's a great question there's another one in hellraiser 3 that was a
a cameraman and he gets basically fused with his camera and you know the cenobites like to say
fun catch phrases they love it and his, it's time for your close up.
That's great.
I'm going to think about this. I think at the end of this recap, we should say what we think
our sonobite person might be.
I was going to say, instead of the DJ to architect
pipeline, it's the DJ to sonobite
pipeline, which is another option.
Another option. But this sonobite
basically tells Riley that Blade was meant
for you you and if
not you bring us
another and this is a
it's like a dream sequence
thing she's right she's like
hi so maybe so we're not sure
and as now
pinhead does come out of another
fog corner somewhere
behind a tree hello
I hear you too uh pinhead appears and as she's talking to riley
her she starts bleeding through her shirt riley does in the in the formation of one of the symbols
on the puzzle box and she does a little signal with her two fingers. This is what pinheads little thing is how she controls like the chains or
she seems to be able to do a lot with these little two fingers,
little,
little signaling.
Okay.
And she like shakes a little two fingers and the circle in Riley's chest,
like breaks open and chains shoot out of it.
chest like breaks open and chains shoot out of it and we go back to matt's house and the chains sink into his flesh this is right after pinhead has said like if not you bring us another
riley is saying no no no no the chains are sinking into the brother they lift him up out of the bed
and it cuts to him like waking up in bed in the same position it's a really cool
like cut and so it is like a dream sequence and he does not have chains in him but okay
maybe something happened in that in that moment that now now he feels bad and he's going to go
look for riley he gets out of bed to go find her and he finds her passed out in the park
on the merry-go-round thing and he panics thinking she's overdosed and he like goes to grab her
and puts his hand right on the blade of that box no what and really fucking cuts himself his palm
is like pouring blood but he still gets he gets her off the
merry-go-round and sets her upright by the bathroom and he's like trying to like slap her
face like riley riley like come wake up stay with me and she's kind of mumbling and moaning and
doesn't really know what's going on he leans her up against the bathroom wall as he goes into the
bathroom he's like i'm gonna rinse off my hand like then we're like we're gonna go home goes into the bathroom which is fucking filthy and fluorescent lighting oh that's my i'm i'm out
i'm done and he's rinsing his hand in these nasty stained sinks
and blood is pouring into the sink. And then he hears a noise.
And outside we see Riley regaining a bit of consciousness. And she sees the puzzle box on the ground transforming into the next shape.
And we see Matt's blood filling into the crevices of the holes of like something is it's something's happening there and now matt
starts getting blurred blurred vision getting woozy doesn't know what's happening and the
entrance to the bathroom shifts and elongates into a long stone hallway and i feel like david bruckner is making a name for
himself in like architectural horror all of his movies that's kind of cool all of his movies have
really cool like in the ritual it was like in the forest and scenes of the shelves at the liquor store would come up into the forest.
And then in the night house, the husband is an architect.
And a lot of the scares are the negative space of the shapes of the David.
David, we love it.
This is cool.
David, we love it.
This is cool.
But then outside, Riley hears Matt screaming and we hear chains clanking.
Oh, no.
It sounds bad.
She comes to and runs in and he's gone.
Oh, man.
Oh, oh.
Yep.
We all know where he is.
He's in hell.
He's in hell he's in hell unfortunately yep uh but the cops arrive and i think she must have called the cops colin and nora the roommate are now down there too
and they're trying to she's trying to explain what, but they obviously know that she's on drugs and are just confused about what happened.
She's obviously confused about what happened.
No one quite knows what to do.
And the cops say they can't do anything about it yet because and I mean, this is true that when an adult is missing, I feel like they can't do anything about it for a while.
Right.
It's like 48 hours or something.
Yeah. Jesus. That's bad. Yeah. feel like they can't do anything about it for a while right it's like 48 hours or something yeah
that's bad yeah so colin is really stressed matt's boyfriend and is trying to get information out of
riley and she uh this is like the next morning now this has like gone through the night i think
they've been awake all night but she's she's not like as fucked up anymore it's like she's sobering up and she's telling colin it has
something to do with this box she still has the puzzle box it's changed shapes now it's in kind
of a hexagonal shape and colin it doesn't seem like dismissive is not acting like she's crazy, but just is genuinely like has no idea what she's talking about.
Like, it's just like, well, I mean, it does sound insane.
Yeah.
He doesn't know what to make of it.
Yeah.
Even if someone wasn't on drugs, like you would be like, what's.
Yeah.
What is that?
What are you talking about?
But it's clear that he's not like belittling her and like making her feel insane he's like i like want to understand i just
don't understand yeah yeah uh she gets upset and frustrated and goes to
trevor's house and immediately has sex with him which is interesting your brother's missing and
it's just like you're just so horny.
I guess just like a numbing
Yeah, I think a distraction.
Disconnect. Yeah.
But while they're having sex, she sees
Chatterer, who is
my other favorite Cenobite.
Chatterer!
And I like it.
Yes, he just chatters his teeth. That's his
thing, which I think is a pretty
recognizable trademark so i appreciate that because the rest of them are we like blunt
together chatterer really does stand out their thing you know so she screams and trevor can't
see chatterer but he believes her and she's like the the puzzle box changed she's showing it to him he's like how
did you get it to change she says like like it got matt's blood and it changed i don't know what's
going on like you try it i think you like you solve it and he's like scared he's like i'm not
fucking with that smart so it's clear he believes her and she's like something's going on we need
to find out more can you find out who owns the building that we took this from like they
must know something so he does and they find serena's name and they're able to track her down
to a nearby hospital where she i think has lung cancer because again this is like six years later
so time has passed and she's like now dying and they go in and visit her she is clearly remorseful about things
that she has done in her past she talks about roland voight and says i used to clean up his
messes and i did a lot of things that i'm not proud of like send people to hell yeah yeah like
innocent did some things i'm not proud of.
Could you expand on what that means?
Yeah, anytime someone says that now, I'm going to just be like, I'm going to dig a little bit deeper here.
Yeah, more information there.
But Riley pulls out the puzzle box and basically like we need information on this.
Serena's demeanor really shifts.
She looks really, really scared.
She tries to grab it from
riley she's like you can't no don't i'm taking this from you you can't have this this is like
so bad you trust me you don't want this and as she's grabbing it it shifts and it stabs serena
through the hand that would suck and serena is she just quietly sits down and is staring at her hand bleeding.
She like is resigned to it.
She knows.
Serena's like, it's okay.
I did it to myself.
I did it to myself.
Oh, Trevor and Riley leave.
We see the, she throws the box in the back seat of her car.
We see it shifting into the next formation.
We see it shifting into the next formation and we see Serena now being taken into an operating room for her hand, like to get stitches or something.
The nurses are like, well, she cut her hand, so she'll need stitches. is shifting around her like in front of windows we'll see cement walls sliding and like the shape of the building changing which nobody else is noticing but serena is just watching it
in anticipation of what is about to happen and as she gets uh left in the operating room alone while the to wait for the doctor or whatever the hallway opens up
at the end of the operating room and we hear a really heavy wheezing
it's like almost like a harmonica i like without like a harmonica it's like it sounds like an instrument it sounds
like they're i don't know how to describe it it sounds like there's metal involved in this
breathing yeah okay okay a cenobite turns the corner this cenobite's skin is, I think their back skin is pulled over their face.
What?
That doesn't even make any sense.
Really tightly.
And so that's why they can't really breathe.
And there is metal pieces put along the spine, along the lungs that looks like they're breathing out of their back instead of their
mouth it's really trippy and weird but he they're coming for serena serena does still try to run i
think you probably still would even though you like know it's not gonna happen i think instinctually
you're just like okay fuck it all get away get away get away get away you'd hate to not have tried so she does she runs out but she's very quickly cornered by
another five or so centibites and we see the female centibite again serena drops to her
knees in front of her and says forgive me i'm sorry for what I've done. I'm sorry for everything that I've done.
And female Cenobite,
aka Gasp, sorry I forgot her name is Gasp,
Gasp now. I really loved
the name female Cenobite.
Yeah, that was really good.
She says,
save your breath
for screaming.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
And then we cut away.
We don't see Serena's death, but we know
that she has died. Yeah.
Now we see Riley
googling Roland Voight,
trying to find out more about him. She finds
his estate is
nearby, and
there's a lot of missing persons
associated with him.'s missing and like
oh and people around him are missing yeah like people went missing at his estate they would tell
they're like yet another person missing from this guy's house like after going to a party
what are you gonna do pretty suspicious as she's doing this, Trevor takes the box and is trying to get rid of it.
He she catches him doing this and gets pissed at him.
I think Riley thinks it's her only way to be able to find her brother, which I guess is true.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So she's really mad at Trevor for this.
But I also very much understand Trevor's motivation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's saying, like, we need to get fucking we need to get rid of this thing and she says no and she takes it back and goes by
herself with it to voight's abandoned mansion which again very cool architecture here it looks
like the puzzle box it has a metal layered like a gate that covers every inch of the house in the shape of a cube in kind of the pattern of the box.
But she's able to break in.
She crawls through the exterior gate through a hole in it and is able to get in.
She finds what looks like the center of the house, which is the room that we saw in the beginning with Joey and Voight.
And it has these controls in it that open and close the gates.
And there is a set of external gates and there's a second inside layer of gates.
So many gates.
Yeah.
So this house in itself is looking like a little puzzle box puzzle
box she finds all of these journals and photos and things that some some of which we recognize
from earlier hellraiser movies their drawings of pinhead and their drawings of um the the puzzle box and it shows that there are six configurations of this puzzle box
and if you saw if you get past all the levels the leviathan grants you a gift and leviathan
we know from hellraiser 2 is like hell's god but not the devil i don't know i think this is just like a god
let's be clear the devil's someone else i don't know all the centipedes maybe the devil doesn't
like exist in this version i think the devil doesn't exist in this hell there aren't demons
they're centipedes but the centip the Cenobites are sometimes referred to as demons,
but I think it's humans that
refer to them. I don't think they refer to themselves
as demons. Right, and they all used
to be humans. Right. Yes.
Which demons all used to be
angels? Yeah.
They used to be, they're fallen angels,
but angels used
to be humans.
This is confusing.
Sounds tricky.
And as she is going through these journals, she hears Matt's voice calling out to her.
Riley, help me.
We've all been there.
She runs towards the voice.
Oh, no.
We've all done it.
I guess you kind of would, though.
I mean, at this point, she doesn't know.
And she might just think he's been kidnapped by Voight, you know?
So I guess it makes sense.
But yeah, we know that it's probably not going to be him.
No.
She finds him, or what appears to be him, in a room of the house. How does it appear to be him no she finds him or what appears to be him in a room of the house and how does it appear to
be him i mean it looks like him but it kind of reminded me of the night house where a trick a
trick of the light it no it's like fully him but it's he seems very like removed he's being very like chill
like he's like yeah
he's not freaking out in like a
creepy way yeah he's like hello
like personality
wise it is not him looks wise
it is him okay
and she sees him
and says is it really you
and he says do you want it to be?
Which is a very telling answer to that question.
And she says yes, and she runs to hug him.
Which, you know, we've got some clues here now that this maybe is not Matt.
And as she's hugging him,
we see her fingers around his back pressing into muscle,
now not skin, not clothes.
And she looks into the mirror behind
and sees that she's hugging just a fully skinned man.
No skin on this person.
Screams, jumps backwards into Colinin and nora and trevor who have just
arrived because they were worried about her and she turns to them and turns back and matt is gone
she's freaked out and they're all trying to calm her down
colin and riley uh they're sitting in that room together.
She's trying to explain to him the journals she found.
She's showing him the box again.
She's saying it needs a blood sacrifice for each level.
And then it transforms.
And once you get to the sixth level,
you get a wish granted again,
like somehow seem really open to it.
Open to it.
Yeah.
He's not, he's not like acting like she to it. Yeah, he's not
acting like she's crazy.
Trevor and
Nora go into a different
room of the house to give them some privacy
and they go into this little room with like a piano
and a mini bar.
This is more fun. Yeah.
This is a nicer room than the others
for now. And
he tries to find alcohol.
He turns to Nora and says, what's your pleasure, ma'am?
Which is a fun callback to the original movie.
That's, I think, the first line, or it's at least the last line of the first Hellraiser.
What's your pleasure?
And Nora looks annoyed by this and says, we don't drink when Riley's around
and Trevor clearly is like okay well I'm going to drink because I'm very stressed out.
He's also like this is a pretty unusual situation that we're in.
Yeah but I don't know that I would be trying to drink in this situation.
No I don't think alcohol would help.
No it probably would not help.
Trevor leaves that room to go find a bathroom, leaves Nora alone in there.
We cut back to Riley explaining to Colin.
She points to something in one of the journals
that one of the gifts that Leviathan can give you
is resurrection.
And so she now thinks that if she completes
the six configurations of this puzzle box,
she can ask for her brother to be resurrected
colin is like i don't know i don't know about this yeah she's desperate but yeah it's the best
lead we've got so far we see nora in that room by herself she finds another little switchboard thing little breakers and she's flipping those
one turns music on one turns lights on and one opens a trap door on the other side of the room
that she fucking goes into it doesn't even seem like she hesitates she's just like oh what's this now which what in an abandoned mansion
we've all been there i just don't know honestly in in any mansion i do think trap doors are cool
though have you guys ever like seen a place with a trap door i mean i guess not like a real one i
i had a friend who had a i guess it was probably like a safe room it was like a hidden
room behind a um a bookshelf you had like twisted the bookshelf and it would reveal a little room
that's cool and i do think it is cool and i always wanted to go in there so i guess i kind of a
little bit understand the motivations of like oh but like not in an abandoned creepy house and not
like alone and not when someone's missing and not when there's a
weird puzzle box that has a blade attached yep yep yep yep that's right i also feel like a weird
rich man's mansion the secret room is not a good place really bad it's a really bad i mean like
that's not a nice room even in not this movie yeah agreed it's also not one in this movie it is a stone dark hallway
as soon as she walks into it the door closes behind her yes and locks she starts banging on it
is thinking trevor's playing a joke on her why? Trevor does come back because he hears the banging and he's like, what the fuck is going on?
She tells him that there's switches by the piano.
Go flip those.
He's trying to go find which one it is.
Oh, boy.
And we see Riley in Riley and Colin in the room that they're in.
Riley's trying to show Colin the box reaches for it and it's gone she's like where's the fucking box and in that dark hallway we see
someone with their with the box in their hands with the knife blade part sticking out
jab it into nora's back oh nora is screaming everyone is now hearing her
screaming but she's like screaming from within the walls people don't know how to get to her
she starts running down the hallway and we see the figure of whoever stabbed her we're not sure
if it's a cenobite who the fuck is that it's like it's like vaguely human-y looking but so are the cenobites
and she's able to get to the end of the hallway and like pushes another door open that that opens
into the middle of the house and the rest of them have followed the sounds of her screaming they run
into her there and she's like my back my back and the box is still jabbed into her back they pull it out and the blade is like
long and it shoots like a stream of blood out of her they probably should have left it in but
uh now she's losing blood blood very rapidly yeah they jump into you know we got to go we
got to get out we got to get out of here nora is very quickly losing consciousness and she's saying there was a man in the walls and this creeps out uh riley and everybody obviously
and they uh hoist her up and carry her out of the building in and get back into a van
that they came in and as they do we see within the little hidden tunnels roland voight
yeah just creeping around just hanging out inside his walls he's hiding in his little hidden tunnels
okay does he seem like the same as last time we saw him we don't really get a great look at him
he seems like not well. Yeah.
I mean, anytime you try to... I wouldn't say this is healthy behavior.
Cut a deal with the devil, the Leviathan in this situation.
It's never going to turn out well for you.
Exactly.
So now we're in the van, panicked, driving as fast as we can through these woods and getting kind of
lost.
It seems like the turn is not there anymore.
They're like,
what the fuck?
Oh boy.
Like,
where do we go?
And in the back,
Nora is on the brink of consciousness.
She's like,
uh,
she says,
I hear bells.
I hear bells.
We don't like to hear that.
As they drive past this one spot in the road, the road shifts.
It like drops down like to a staircase below.
The same thing happens on the road in front of them.
They don't notice it, but then they turn a different direction.
But then we go back to nora's point of view
and she's looking out the back windows of the van and they just get further and further away
and it starts elongating again into like a hallway and she looks up to the front seat of the van
and they start getting further and further away and so she's now alone in this long dark
hallway and her friends are like getting further and further away from it it's really cool but
very scary yeah and from the end of the hallway again comes chatterer and another guy with his
face is like there's like a metal ring around his head and it's like his face
skin is wrapped around the metal ring and it's almost like he has actually no head it's just a
face skin on this metal loop like those you know those like embroidery things the little
across a cross stitch across stitch of a face yes that's that's all that's on his above his You know, those like embroidery things, the little cross across.
Yes, that's that's all that's on is above his shoulders is just a little cross. Nasty.
Pinhead comes out from the other direction of the hallway.
So she Nora is blocked on both ways and totally freaking out.
Pinhead does a little finger motion and chains shoot out from both directions.
And they grab Nora by the feet and the back and the arms, but then also the stomach and chest and pull from separate directions.
So they pull her into a full C shape.
Ew, what the fuck?
So her head is now upside down and pinhead walks up to talk to her
and she's looking at her upside down okay with her like stomach forward and her legs and her arms
behind her it's gnarly no thank you it's really good and she starts praying nora starts praying please god please god um pinhead says what is it you pray for okay
and nora says salvation pinhead says and what would it feel like a joyful note without change
without end there's no music in that they always have this creepy poetry that they do which i
really love and they love their jobs they love their jobs they're having a good time
and she pulls one of the pins from her head their nails actually she pulled and they're like
uh we see about an inch protruding out from her head. There's another about three inches inside.
So she pulls out like a four inch nail from her forehead.
Maybe even longer.
That's the first time I ever thought about the actual length of a nine inch nail.
That's pretty big.
Pretty big.
And she's pretty fucking cool.
Pretty fucking cool name for a man.
And she's pretty fucking cool.
Pretty fucking cool name for a man.
And she takes this nail and jobs it into Nora's throat horizontally like a like Frankenstein style.
Sure, sure, sure. And we get a shot in the throat, seeing it like cross the inside and poke out through the outside nora
is screaming now the tone of her scream is changing a bit as she is home stabbed
and pinhead said that says there's so much more the body can be made to feel
and you'll feel it all before we're through and she pulls the chains a little tighter she pulls the nail
out of the throat and chatterer comes up and puts their hands on either side of nora's face and
the chains on the back of nora's head are like ripping off basically and there's like a lot of
blood coming from her head now and it's all pouring down onto Chatterer's face as he's going like blood going
in his teeth and with one swift motion the chains pull and they pull all of the skin off Nora's back and she falls to the ground and in the van Riley looks
into the rear view mirror and can see Pinhead and this scene happening only in the mirror
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they stop and get out of the car freaking out where the what the fuck is going on uh riley
takes the box and runs with it and is about to throw it off. There's like a bridge with a river below.
She's about to throw it.
We hear, wait, and Pinhead appears and she says, not yet.
You must accept the pain that you have wrought.
Greater delights await.
We wish to see you proceed.
Riley says, I didn't ask for this.
Pinhead says, but you did.
Riley says, what are you pinhead says explorers of the further reaches of experience okay aka sadomasochist from that's right baby
uh she tells her our gifts are boundless. Our God awaits. You know what it can offer.
Your brother's ending was exquisite.
Would it bring you comfort to see him again?
And Riley kind of seems like she's not going to do it.
She seems like she's over it.
Yeah, I mean, toss that shit off the river.
Wait, and also, wait, I'm a little confused.
The Cenobites, like, you don't turn
into a Cenobite necessarily, right?
Right. It's just,
but maybe as Pinhead laying the ground
work for turning Riley into
a Cenobite, that's kind of what it feels like.
I think she's just kind of
encouraging her
to finish the
what she has
started. Yeah. I think it like maybe they're like awoken and they need to finish this or something.
I think that is another thing that's tricky about this movie is it's it's getting more into the rules of this world, which it's a little more fun when you kind of always a bit of a minefield.
Yeah.
Also, it's like, why does Riley care what the Cenobites want?
Yeah.
Right. Right. Right. I don't care. yeah also it's like why does riley care what the centibites want yeah right you know right right
i don't care and so she also literally just told her her brother's dead so it's like okay yeah
what's the point yeah exactly pinhead i think senses that riley's maybe not gonna follow
through with this so she quickly causes riley to stab her hand on the puzzle box and says
now we have your blood
we can come for you at any time
so you or someone
else you choose
your choice feed it
there's just two more
and then he's yours and then
Chatterer comes
out of the shadows and starts
moving towards Riley.
Like right now they're already coming for her.
And so it's like, okay, you have a chance to now stab somebody else or it's your turn.
And so her and Trevor and Colin are running away from the Cenobites and Colin trips and falls.
And Chatterer is getting really close to him.
And he freaks.
They can all see the Cenobites now.
Yes.
Okay.
And Chatterer just goes right past Colin.
He's not after him.
He's after Riley.
And Riley and Trevor, there's like a gate into the property, like along the the driveway that opens up and there they get stuck behind this gate somehow i can't really remember and chatterer is like reaching
through the gate at them trevor is trying to push chatterer away and chatterer starts biting
trevor's arm just gnawing into him like right in his little elbow crease and
is just like pulling flesh away from it trevor is screaming in pain and riley is looking like
what the fuck do i do and riley gets an idea and she takes that puzzle box and she stabs
chatterer with it chatterer very interesting chatterer immediately stops gnawing on trevor
he gets up and backs away and spreads his arms like he's he's accepting it as if he's about to
accept a um gift of some sort we see pinhead her face gives away nothing is she pleased by this is she mad we don't know
i don't think that it's really about that she just raises her little fingers and signals out
for those chains to come out they hook into chatterer on the shoulders ribs and legs and
absolutely rip him apart into, I mean, he just
gets demolished. Yeah.
He's just completely torn apart.
Oh my god, Cheddar.
I guess you don't get anything for being loyal. A loyal
Cenobite. I know. It's like,
he's already a Cenobite. Is that what we want?
I guess it doesn't matter.
I guess it doesn't matter.
So this is a pretty huge loophole
to have just discovered. Yeah, this is a pretty huge discovery.
And we see the box transforming.
So now there's only one more that it needs to complete its final configuration.
They run back, they get Colin up and they run back into the mansion.
And the Cenobites are all chasing them now well they walk slow like all good horror
movie villains yeah just kind of slowly approaching they'll get what they want no need to rush so the
three of them get into the mansion and they flip the switch so that it closes the gates
around the whole house and so now the Cenobites can't get in.
And they just stand outside.
Looking in.
Waiting.
Trevor is bleeding out.
He's not doing good.
From his little elbow crease?
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of it gone.
Ew!
And they take Riley's belt and make a little tourniquet and they leave trevor in a room while they try to you know look out the window back at the centibites figure out what they're
gonna do and as trevor is alone in the room roland comes out presses his hand over trevor's mouth and then takes it away
and after Trevor like
realizes who it is and Trevor
starts saying I'm sorry this is like it's
all gotten out of control I'm sorry Mr. Voight
I'm sorry wait what
Trevor was in on it
that's why he made them get the box
oh
god damn it Trevor
fucking Trevor none of this would have happened Riley if you just said I love you back Oh god damn it Trevor Fucking Trevor
None of this would have happened Riley
If you just said I love you back
God
Was he really asking so much you bitch
This is what happens ladies
And Voight is mad
And saying you know
This is all out of control now
And Trevor's saying like I don't think it is all out of control now. And Trevor's saying,
like, I don't think it's that out of control. Like she's been doing it and it only has one
left and we're here. And so it's like not that big of a deal. The plan is still going to be
completed. It's just she's been kind of doing the whole thing. And that's fine. Women, man,
you can't. Trevor says, just be patient patient and we now get our first good look at
voight and there is a big metal contraption through his chest that looks almost like um
and not an accordion it's like an instrument though sort of that it has pulleys. And we see that what's around the pulleys are his nerves.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Ew! Oh my god, I'm like, why?
So as it starts moving, he'll kind of crumble in pain, screaming.
And he gets very pissed at being told to be patient and he says every
second is a lifetime oh my god this is what happens when you try to talk to the leviathan
just don't do it i know uh riley and colin are in the other room they don't see this happen
and riley decides that they want to just let one of the
cenobites in because they figured out they can stab it and that that's still acceptable so they've
got to they've got to kill one of those because they she's not going to stab anybody in the house
so they open the gate riley should stab trevor but yes uh but she doesn't know that yet. And she opens the gate and walks out.
And there are, I think, five Cenobites out there.
We've got Pinhead.
We've got Gasp.
There's one called Weeper, which is a very creepy name.
And I don't know how to describe Weeper.
They're like more robot looking than the other ones.
Less of a human face, kind of like a black, very black eyes. I don't know how to describe Weeper. They're like more robot looking than the other ones.
Less of a human face, kind of like a black, very black eyes and missing the bottom of their jaw.
Ew, ew, ew.
They were in the trailer.
Ew, ew, ew.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Real creepy one. Didn't like that one.
And Weeper reaches out to Riley and their fingers split all down their forearms like in men.
Ew, no!
But on both sides.
So now they have these little, almost insect-like arms.
Ew.
You're doing too good a job with this.
You said you weren't going to be good at it.
Good, good.
Yeah, I don't like it. Okay, good, good. Yeah, I don't like it.
Good, good, good.
So they're now closing in on Riley.
Riley's backing up.
It's Weeper and Gasp that are coming towards her.
But as Riley goes in, only Gasp gets in.
And they're able to close the gate again behind gasp gasp is the one whose skin
is covering yeah no i remember i remember
and we see now that gasp also has the contraption with the nerves on it and as
as they're breathing we see the nerves being turned and it's really gnarly and they also
have like pins through the top of their hands really really intricate uh design here really good job to this team looks okay looks very scary and gasp charges for riley and they as she's as
she's about to be get got god i'm so stupid it's so crazy that no we're not saying that. We don't say those
words. They
close the gate, the internal
gate, because there's two layers
of
layers.
Layers.
Layers.
Two layers of
God in the
layers.
There's two layers of gates and they close the inside gates and it closes on Gasp.
So the top half of their body is in on one side and the bottom half is on the other.
So they're stuck, basically. basically and in such a way that it tears the skin that's wrapped around their head
revealing only the skull and like no i don't think there's teeth there's just a tongue dangling
underneath i feel like i don't know i feel like there's not maybe muscle to hold it i don't care for this no no let's fast forward through all
this part then what happens this is actually a pretty good scenario because now the cenobite
is stuck and but in the in the running from it riley has dropped the box and so oh god no
colin is on the other side of the gate so
she calls out to colin and says the box i dropped it right there colin's looking for it can't find
it he said he's not here it's not here trevor's trevor's there and trevor was actually the one
pressing like to open and close the gates seems like he was actually trying to help them
because it doesn't matter to him he's like if we can stab this center by trying to help them. Because it doesn't matter to him. He's like, if we can stab this Cenobite.
He's just trying to complete the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then that's great.
Okay.
He don't care.
But out of the shadows comes Voight.
Ronald.
And he stabs Colin.
No.
And he stabs him real good and like slices him up his belly.
Looks like a mortal wound on its own.
Colin falls to the ground.
Riley is calling out to Trevor saying,
that's Voight, that's Voight, that's him.
And Voight turns to Riley and says,
oh, he knows and reveals their whole evil plan.
Well, not really evil plan,
but just basically saying your boyfriend,
you know, did this for money,
cared more about money than he cared about you.
This is where he also explains the contraption inside of him.
He says that he completed the cycle before and he claimed his reward and chose pleasure, but they only gave him pain as he's doing this.
The box is transforming into the final configuration because it's had
Colin's blood now.
And the final configuration is the Leviathan shape.
It's like a diamond shape.
And we see the Leviathan coming from above.
It's,
we saw it in hell razor too.
It's just a big diamond in the sky.
Like diamonds in the sky like diamonds in the sky like a diamond just like that
riley yells to colin like you need to run they're coming they're gonna come for you
and the man with the stretched face sure enough is coming for colin and another cenobite that we haven't seen before is here now
i can't remember what this cenobite looks like but the cenobite that gets to him first is gasp and
she does a little signal of her own but rather than chains coming Razor wire comes out, which seems worse. Worse?
Definitely worse?
That's worse.
Definitely worse.
That's worse.
And the rest of the Cenobites are now coming towards Roland.
Clearly, they remember him and they're mad at him, I guess. I don't quite know, but he flips one of the switches and it closes both gates
and now
Roland and
Trevor and
what did I call him? Ronald?
Sorry. That's a pretty easy
mix up.
Understandable mix up.
So now the three
humans are in the
center of the house and all the Cenobites are stuck in between the two layers of the gates.
So it's sort of like a moat of gates.
And Rowan says to them, you thought I built a fortress.
I built a cage and I'm not letting you out until you make me right again.
Okay. Wow. Okay.
Wow.
Huh?
And Pinhead says,
all of this,
all for us.
She says,
you don't like our gift.
He says,
fuck your gift.
Take it out of me.
Also in,
in this shifting of the gates, it has separated Gasp from Colin as well.
And so he's momentarily safe from the Cenobites.
But while this conversation is happening, Riley opens the gates.
I think not knowing the Colin situation, just knowing that she wants the centibites to get
roland but the gasp gets colin the razor wire loops all around his arms and pulls him back
and sinking into his flesh some pull like loop around his midsection as well as just like slicing
into him he's screaming in pain riley runs to him while the rest of the centibites are like
closing in on roland and riley tells gasp to stop and says i didn't choose him which i feel like
why would they give a shit they don't care they were gonna take you they don't fucking care what
you want she kind of does stop she's like hmm okay well who do you want then like i guess she's like
if there's someone you'd rather that's fine as long as i get mine type of thing very interesting
sort of a reasonable lady and roland is talking to pinhead and saying, like, I want to go back, back to how I was.
Like, you need to reverse all this.
Pinhead says, once you cross a threshold, you can only search for greater thresholds.
A gift cannot be ungiven.
And back in the room with Colin and and riley trevor's in there as well riley turns on trevor and stabs
him with the box and yep makes sense makes sense and back in the main room with roland i will say
there's the horny stuff like like i haven't been hearing a lot of things that are too horny
not not really horny no and wow yeah that's probably my main complaint
yeah quite a bit more horniness uh pinhead says to roland we misread your desire.
You asked for pleasure, but I think what you meant was you wanted power.
Like, basically, you've always gotten pleasure from power.
And so we will give you the greatest power of all.
She does a little wave of her fingers.
The contraption falls from his chest.
We see his skin heal back together.
He's laughing and, like, so happy. Oh, he he's gonna become a centipede and a big chain comes down from leviathan and pulls him up into it
while we see trevor the razor wires now release colin and wrap around trevor and now we see the wires really doing their full
work which is essentially skinning him alive it's like flaying him taking that skin right off
god i hate that razor wire goes down like through his mouth and his eyes and it pulls him down we
don't actually see his head being skinned it pulls him down to hell he's gone as roland is being taken up pinhead says we have such sights to show you
which again another line from the original love it love all the callbacks and so the roland's gone
trevor's gone and now riley walks out to face pinhead and pinhead says you know
you've passed all the levels now what's your what do you wish for um do you want to see your brother
again and riley says basically like hell no yeah okay great great she's like she knows she's like
i've seen your gifts i've seen it's all. And Pinhead seems displeased by this, but has to grant her wish.
Says you've chosen to live with your guilt, with the pain that you've caused, and you'll live a brief and sad life or something like that.
Not like an eternal life of pain and pleasure.
What you could have with us.
But whatever.
It's your choice.
You have chosen the lament configuration.
And the box returns to its original form.
Cenobites disappear.
And then we get.
We see you know.
Riley and Colin leaving. Colin seems like he's gonna make
it despite like again like so many wounds he's gonna have a long hospital stay so much razor
wiring his arms and chest and also a full stab wound all through his stomach poof yeah it's it's rough it's a tough to be calling
but it does seem like he is going to survive so that's that's good i guess uh and then we see
voight within the leviathan i suppose he's in this kind of space where it's just white light all around him he seems appears to be
floating his skin has lost he's naked he's got no hair on his body anymore he's starting to look
like a little you know cenobite-esque um he's being prepped for cenobite-ness being sent a bite is this what he wanted from the beginning a bit like what was he expecting what's going to happen
to him you know endless pleasure yeah i think that's the whole morality of these movies the
whole like moral lesson is that we want too much i think it is kind of a um you know metaphor for addiction too of just
like wanting one wanting um more and never being satiated and that's not good and it's not gonna
actually bring you anything good and so he if we see him being turned into a centibite and it is really brutal his skin
just starts basically peeling off and being pinned back like he's kind of looks like a frog
in a science class like yeah his skin being taken off and pinned behind him and the skin is taken from his around his mouth
and peeled back to like exposing his jaw pinned behind him his eyes turn black and he is floating
in this white space what looks to be like on a cross very christ-like and that's the end of the movie oh my god wow that was just unnecessarily gross it was just non-stop gross you know here's the
thing henley i wanted it to kind of be grosser i don't know what that yeah it's like something
about it felt unsatisfying yeah i know what you mean i i didn't really find it um like shocking well i guess the
plot is like the brother was the main point of conflict the main like emotional tension and the
brothers just like disappears immediately and so and never really returns so i think you know also something in the originals is the combo of pleasure and pain as being one
and there wasn't a lot of pleasure happening it feels very separate to me in this it's like
there's pleasure and there's pain and what i like in the originals is that for cenobites
they're the same thing and i didn't feel like there were a lot of scenes where i was getting
that impression across like i feel
like i want scenes like i think in the original it's like more pleasure frank in the original is
like um the one who's seeking he like he fucking loves it and even and in number two it's uh dr
chenard who's like he does become a cenobite and he does get scared at first but then he's like
so into it
and they're horny for pain and i wanted people to be horny for pain in this
nobody was horny for pain no one was horny for pain that's what we all thought was going to
happen it didn't happen interesting it's very visually cool i do think david breckner is a great director architectural architectural horror
i'm excited to see more of it and uh jamie clayton as pinhead was also great
so worth a watch i'd say if you're if you're brave not for me not for me not for me and i
did say that i wanted to say what kind of cenobites we would
be and i don't want to do that oh yeah pass pass pass no thank you um should we wrap should we
wrap it up yeah i guess so i guess we should wrap it up um maybe next time we'll get more horniness
fingers crossed for a little horny treat for us next time I believe next week
We're doing another new release
Another new release next week
Yeah there's a lot of good spooky season offerings
Should we say what it is?
I guess we could say what it is
Is that crazy?
It's Pearl
I'm so excited
And I feel like that'll be horny
X was certainly horny
That'll probably be a little horny.
So, you know, we might, we still got chances for horniness yet.
Yeah, and listeners, I don't know if there's any like very horny horror movies you know about.
I'm kind of, now that we're talking about it, I'm just kind of curious.
Very horny horror.
Very horny horror.
I'm just curious if there's ones that you like.
Give us some recs.
Give us your recs.
And not like bad horny
too, like good horny. You know what I mean?
Like good horny. Not like rapey.
No, not rapey. Good horny. That's not horny.
I don't mean boobs,
butts, bodies. I mean horny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean. You guys
know what I mean. You guys fucking get it.
Take the heart of the
heart of the note, which is
the horniness.
It's not sex.
Sex isn't always horny.
That's right.
All of our families listen to this podcast.
Mine certainly don't listen
through to the end.
That's true. Mine have certainly not made it here.
Some of maybe
some family members, but not the ones
that I'm so concerned with hearing
me talk about that but you know
whatever
we're all warm blooded
we all get a little
horny time to time
I'm gonna shut up
and let's just say
bye
guys
see you later stay spooky yeah there's not really a voice
goodbye
chatterid chatterid
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