Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HIGH TENSION

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Corn fields, concrete saws, and some poorly timed masturbating - we're recapping High Tension! AKA Haute Tension AKA Switchblade Romance, but you know what they say! A rose by any other name ...would still smell as sweet. Let's get into some torture porn/New French Extremity, baby!! Buckle up!High Tension is available on AMC+ or to rent on VOD00:00 - Shoutouts 02:13 - Episode starts15:00 - Trivia26:03 - Recap Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 this is Emily Henley and Sammy and you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and I watch them so that you don't have to. And today's movie, you're really not going to want to. Really cool. But before we get into that, how are we all doing? Just great. Just great. How are we doing now in this moment before the retelling of today's movie? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm good. I actually, I somehow recently have quite a bit going on, actually, but I'm not going to talk about any of that. What I'm going to talk about is something I watched. Can you believe it? Oh, I love it. I love to hear it. Last night, last night, I watched Licorice Pizza Pizza which is not out yet wide
Starting point is 00:03:27 but by the time this episode comes out it will be out soon but it's in select theaters currently so if you find yourself a theater that you could see it in I do recommend it it is Paul Thomas Anderson's latest movie
Starting point is 00:03:40 and I was so delighted the entire time I watched it it It was one of those movies. I won't say too much because I know Sammy wants to see it, but it's just like, it's just fun to watch. You're just having a good time. It's like, that's, it felt like the people who made it were having a good time. I'm all about recently movies where they're like, hey, we don't have to create like drama and catastrophe or for this to be a good movie and enjoyable and for this still be like an arc and still be tension. It's just like we're not going to put. There were so many moments where like a bad thing could have happened. And instead it was like, no.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And I'm just give me more of those, please. and I'm just give me more of those please Joel and I watched Magic Mike XXL the other night because he watched it and was like oh my god it's so great you're gonna love it and so he watched it again with me the next night and it's the same deal it's just it's just people having a good time but it is fun to watch if you got recommendations of other movies like that everyone i would love to hear when is a magic mike 3 happening i love the magic mike movies they're they're great and i would love a third they're so great i would love it and you're absolutely right they're just like a good time but i'm not talking about that i'm talking about licorice pizza which everyone should see
Starting point is 00:04:59 i think i will say there are two things about it that I don't feel good about. One moment that I think or a choice that I think will be clear to everyone when they see it. What it is that I was like, this is unnecessary and I don't think that it helped anything or was good. Then then to a casting choice, which unfortunately. He was very good in it. He's a very good actor. Sean Penn. Sean Penn. Sean Penn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And I don't want him to be in things because he is physically abusive to women. And it just made me really upset to watch him in this movie. And again, he was good in it. I can say that. You could be talented and compelling and also a bad person who shouldn't get things in life. And I'm upset that he was in it because otherwise I would have
Starting point is 00:05:52 enjoyed those moments a lot more. But beyond that, it was really just very, very delightful. Very, very delightful. I thought Alana Hine was great. I thought Cooper Hoffman was so good. And it was really cool to see him
Starting point is 00:06:07 in a PTA movie because I've never heard his name before I don't know who he is. He is Philip Seymour Hoffman's son Oh that makes sense that he would be in a PTA film. Yeah. He loves Philip Seymour Hoffman and yeah he's 18 he's Philip Seymour Hoffman's 18 year
Starting point is 00:06:24 old son and this is his And yeah, he's 18. He's Philip Seymour Hoffman's 18-year-old son. And this is his first thing. And he is the star. And he's so good and so charming. And just like, yeah, it really, it was really just, I had, I turned to Joel like halfway through the movie and I just said, I'm having the best time. Like, I was just having a good time. Bradley Cooper is so fucking funny in it. God, Bradley Cooper is so funny in it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 This is a glowing review. I just had fun. I just had fun. Yeah, she just had fun. And I know that's about what we're not doing here wholeheartedly. Like, we are about to do the opposite. You need to counteract this.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You need a little bit of both. Anyway, what's up with you guys? I don't really have much to talk about except that you brought up Paul Thomas Anderson. And I just want to talk about how curious I am about that family. Paul Thomas Anderson, Maya Rudolph, they have four children together. I don't think they're married. I think they're just in a long-term relationship. They have four kids.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Maybe common law by now, legally. Like, what is it like to have Paul Thomas Anderson and Maya Rudolph as your parents? Interesting, I bet. Yeah. I mean, they both are so cool. But also, I think having famous parents in general is a bit of a double edged sword. Is that the right use of that? I think so.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah. It's very good and very bad. It's very good and very bad. And like, and they're also so incredibly talented in completely different ways. So it's a lot to live up to, like kind of no matter what you're choosing to do, unless you take a hard left turn and you're like an engineer or something right it's so interesting because like on the one hand look everyone's lot in life is unique and have you know no matter what you have challenges but it is so funny because i i think that too i'm like god it must be really hard to have them as your parents and on the other
Starting point is 00:08:18 hand it must be so fucking easy to be born into a super rich, successful family. Right. Like it would be really hard in in a lot of ways. But can you imagine if you just like had access to any life you wanted and that you could try for anything you wanted because you were financially supported no matter what? Like it's like imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Be really wild. but it would also be yeah big shoes to fill but also like you could step into some fucking big shoes if you wanted
Starting point is 00:08:51 like some people are like i wish give me the shoes i can't you know what i mean yeah give me the shoes i feel i read somewhere that the like biggest secret to success among millennials or the the the most common factor in successful millennials is uh successful parents rich parents yeah yeah yeah because because then you're just doors are open for you it's not even necessarily about money like it is about, but even more than money, it's about just knowing people and knowing like who to call when you have a problem and like that kind of thing. And lack of fear or at least like the ability to take risks. Like, like when you are, we really, again, no, I'm not even saying that these people aren't, aren't talented or don't deserve it. Those can be true too. that these people aren't talented or don't deserve it. Those can be true too.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Like, again, I thought Cooper Hoffman was fucking great in this movie and a perfect choice. But so many people, it's like, if you just need to make money and earn a living and stay afloat, you don't get to go after your dreams. Right. You don't get to take risks
Starting point is 00:10:00 because that's a luxury. Oh boy. Well, this is a fruitful conversation right here. The only other quick thing, I also want to give a little recommendation, which is that I've been reading these books by Elizabeth Jane Howard. She was an author in mid 20th century. She's like a genius, I think. But the books are all they are is like a domestic story of women during World War, but right before World War Two, during World War Two and after World War Two. And it's about kind of like the female perspective during
Starting point is 00:10:46 the war when they're not involved in the war at all. They're just like stuck at home and they like don't have anything to do. And it's... And they're like no men around, right? Yeah. There are no men around. And a lot of it is from the perspective of children. So, it starts with like the perspective of, you know, um, the main characters are really Louise, Polly and Clary. And they're like 11, 12 and 13 when the books start and they, it takes place over the course of like maybe 15 years and 10 to 15 years. And it's just her ability to talk about everyday life during that time is so fascinating. There's so much detail that is just like... It's so different than the way we live now.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And I don't even... Honestly, I don't even really know how to tell you how invested I am in their lives at this point. I'm there five books. I'm like, almost done with the fourth book. When I'm done with the series, like my world is gonna fall apart. What is it called the series? So it's the Cazalet series. And the first I honestly can't even remember what the first book is called but it's about the Cazalettes that's the name of the family and the author is Elizabeth Jane Howard
Starting point is 00:12:12 and I just I just fucking love them you guys I'm into it I'm into it well I have a recommendation as well it's a pre a preemptive recommendation
Starting point is 00:12:27 because it's a TV series that I've only watched the first episode of but this is a recommendation for my fellow vessel heads out there it's called the North Water it's on oh I've heard about this it's on AMC plus I watched it like through
Starting point is 00:12:43 Amazon you can get two months of AMC+, for only 99 cents. So I did that. And it's starring Colin Farrell and Jack O'Connell. And Colin Farrell's character is so intense in it. I feel like he's in everything lately, and I'm so happy about it. Wait, Sammy. Okay. I heard in this TV show, there is a very intense killing of a seal.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yes, very intense. And it is Colin Farrell doing the killing. He clubs a seal to death and apparently it's long extended. Not just one seal, Henley. Many, many seals. They are whalers. They are hunters. So it is, that is his job is to go many seals. They are whalers. They are hunters. So it is that is his job is to go kill seals.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And so it's it reminds me a lot of the terror just because it's, you know, old boats. The vessel heads, their ears just perked right up. Old boats. I do. I really do love it. And so I loved the terror so much. But I will say that anytime there's like a wide shot, you can tell it's a little computer generated. They're not really in the Arctic, you know, and it makes a lot of sense. They're filming a TV show.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And in this one, I was like, wait, this looks really real. And I looked it up. This is the furthest North any production has ever filmed. They are literally in the Arctic filming. And yeah, cause I was like, this looks too good. Like how does this call in one of the real deal and Colin Farrell refused to wear gloves because he said his, his character wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And I love a crazy actor. God, I love a crazy fingers. He could have lost some fingers. Yeah. Your character maybe wouldn't. I love a crazy actor. God, I love a crazy actor. He could have lost fingers. Yeah, your character maybe wouldn't, but are these the stakes that it's worth to you? Crazy. Crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:14:35 God, I love it. He takes his craft seriously. You gotta respect that. You gotta respect. I'm, you know, who knows if the show will end up being good, but I was just really thrilled by the first episode. It's a little boring at first, but then it gets... But then he starts clubbing seals in your life. It feels like crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Feels like it's got a lot of the right ingredients. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. AMC Plus, check it out. And that leads me into this week's movie, which is also on AMC Plus. So it's part of why I chose it. Because I was like, look at that.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Just did my same little subscription I just bought. Also, I wanted to get us in the holiday spirit this week. And so I did watch Rare Exports. And it was not scary at all. It was a nice little movie. I do recommend it. I had fun, but I was like, there's literally nothing scary in this movie at all. And so I went completely the other direction and chose High Tension, also called Haute
Starting point is 00:15:41 Tension or Switchblade Romance. There's has a couple different names. Came out in 2013. It is rated NC-17, worth mentioning. No, thank you. Directed by Alexander Aya, who also directed Crawl, which was a lost episode of ours. Oh, yeah. Well, Crawl wasn't that scary.
Starting point is 00:16:06 No, but he's a good, like, good at building, like, suspense and tension. Tension. That's right. There we go. And it was written by Alexandra Aya and Gregory Levasseur, starring Cécile de France-Meywenn
Starting point is 00:16:21 and Philippe Nahon. Nahon. It is a French film, as you can tell by my accent yes yes yes um and yeah and it's on amc plus um you guys have obviously heard about this movie based on your reactions what do you what do you know about it i don't know anything about it other than uh that i'll really hate it. And I'm not entirely sure why. I just feel
Starting point is 00:16:47 like it's one of the ones that's been listed as like ooh, high ten. Like I think I only from reputation do I know anything about it. I don't know what happens in it. I don't know what it's about. The only thing I know is people have asked that we do it and so we've included it I think in some of our
Starting point is 00:17:03 like polls we've done sometimes so I've just seen like the cover of it before but I don't know anything I don't know anything about it yeah I don't like the response when it gets brought up people go like ooh you know so that's um that's all I know about it also Sammy you saying that we're not gonna like it
Starting point is 00:17:20 like really anytime you say that you're right yeah you are right yeah you tend to know you've never been wrong um this is one i i had wanted to see for a long time this was my first time watching it and i don't know you know i had heard of it equated with torture porn in that camp it's because it's french it's actually they have a different phrase for torture porn called the new French extremity okay they had to make it their own
Starting point is 00:17:50 so yeah I think that's part of why I hadn't watched it for so it's like hard to know when the right when the mood is right to watch torture porn yeah yeah yeah yeah and I don't know what it said about me last night I literally was in the mood I was like that sounds kind of fun right now for me. No, I think sometimes you want it.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Sometimes you want like an extreme feeling. I wanted some extreme feelings last night and I got them. Cool. All right. So it lived up to its definition. It is torture porn. We could talk about it a bit at the end. It's actually not as gnarly as I was bracing myself for.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Okie dokies. I can't believe the things you've seen. I know, the things that your eyes have seen. It really is funny watching a movie like this and being like, oh, it wasn't so bad. It is a little disturbing to have that reaction. Well, you know what, though? I really think that a lot of it is time and place. You could have been in a different emotional state a different day, and it could have affected you differently.
Starting point is 00:18:52 True. I think. Yeah. Yes, I think that's true. But it has a 41% on Rotten Tomatoes, 42% on Metacritic, but still a 6.8% on IMDb. Holden Strong in that six range on IMDb. Six range. We don't stray from it often.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It had a budget of $2.5 million and made $6.8 million. And then just some other films that were part of the new French extremity. I was kind of reading a bit about it. Other examples include Martyrs, Irreversible, Frontiers, and Inside. Not to be confused with Bo Burnham's Inside. Just kept making me laugh imagining that in this little subgenre. I've heard terrible things about martyrs and that makes me nervous. I kind of want to watch
Starting point is 00:19:52 them. I know it's weird, but I'm interested. And one day I will. Probably not soon. I feel like you got to space out your torture porn. You can't watch it back to back. Excuse me, your new French extremity. Some other trivias the camera used during the car attack scene got so much fake blood on it car attack yeah car attack uh yeah yeah it's a car attack is this titan titan um it got so the camera got so much fake blood on it that when it was being used on another film later fake blood oozed from it while it was pulling focus on a shot i thought that was pretty funny imagine imagining being that focus puller and being like oh my god kind of fun i was a focus puller once you guys and it was the most stressed i think it
Starting point is 00:20:48 sounds so stressful because it's like you are the one who fucks up the shot it's crazy i i guess anyone can fuck up the shot but and learning that that there's like another person holding the thing and it's like what that is crazy yeah it was it was a very stressful stressful little job second assistant camera never again movie magic man movie magic um the film is set in the south of france but it was shot entirely in romania and this made me laugh it was influenced by the dean kuntz novel intensity some people were like mad and said it just ripped off this novel and um despite the similarities kuntz later elected not to pursue a plagiarism case as because as he found the film so puerile so disgusting and so intellectually bankrupt that he didn't want the association with it that would inevitably come if he pursued an action against the filmmaker.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I thought that was pretty funny. It's like, I don't even want to acknowledge this with suing it. You didn't copyright me or play dress me because I don't want fucking shit to do with this. Yeah, I was going to say, I didn't know Dean Koontz wrote, like, torture porn-esque things, but that must be it. It must be just the actual plot is similar, but... Because I don't remember... I've never read anything by Dean Kuntz. I just don't think he's someone who's...
Starting point is 00:22:14 Well, I can't speak to him, so I don't know. Yeah, I just thought that was funny. And a nice little unintentional promo for this movie. Because people always love that shit in horror. It's like, ooh, he thought it was so depraved
Starting point is 00:22:29 that he didn't even want to sue them. Yeah, that's funny. And that's all I got. So shall we watch the trailer? I guess. I'm sorry.我会带你去我会带你去我会带你去我会带你去我会带你去 我会带你去 我会带你去 我会带你去
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Starting point is 00:23:44 我会带你去我会带你去我会带你去我会带你去我会带你去 Hard pass. Is there a small child in this? Not for long. Oh my god! Oh my god! That's so good! Oh my god. That's not funny.
Starting point is 00:24:13 There was some fluorescent lighting in there for you, Henley. That little shot of the fluorescent light flicker. There was a little animated tiny drumming bear. I do not remember that in the movie, but it's very funny in the trailer. I also love that song, Sonic Youth. Yeah, that was a great song choice. Okay. Yeah, it feels not okay to me.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Not a fan. I don't know what to say about it, except that I just don't feel good about this. I just don't feel good about it. Your gestures just don't feel good about this. I just don't you know, I'm just not sure. I just don't feel good about it. Your gestures right now are very Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh my god, my mom tells me to dress like Mary Poppins. You tell me I look like Donald Trump. I don't know who I am anymore. I said, Henley, you look like Donald Trump. Now I'm imagining Donald Trump dressed like Mary Poppins. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Somebody meme it. I, you know, had been excited about this movie for a while. I like a female protagonist kicking ass. That's always fun. Looks like she wrapped some barbed wire around a stick. Yeah, she sure did. Pretty gnarly, like Negan in The Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Seems like an effective weapon choice, but yowza. Yeah, yowza. We're gonna have to just see how we feel about it all at the end, because I can't say much about my feelings at this time. We're just going to have to see.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You know what that means is that Sammy liked it. We'll see. Okay. We'll see. We're just going to have to see. Seems like a lot of different kinds of blades happening. Yeah, not good for Emily. A lot of different sharp instruments. Okay, so we okay fine okay okay okay we start with a woman in a hospital room kind of mumbling to herself saying
Starting point is 00:26:21 i won't let anyone come between us ever again. We don't get a good look at who this person is. It's just an unsettling little scene. And then we go into our main titles, which are, you know, regular titles cut with a woman running through the woods, looking really injured and bloodied and barefoot. and one of the titles i just had to write down it says edited by baxter and i've just never seen a single name editor and it really delighted me and as an editor i just yeah i feel like i have a lot to think about with how I want my IMDb page to look. I think you should start going by Baxter. I think Baxter. Baxter the second.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Baxter junior. Baxter two. Baxter junior. Oh, God. Or just smart. What if you just went by smart? Be interesting. It would probably attract some traffic on my IMDb page. I feel like people
Starting point is 00:27:26 would be like, what? And they would have to look me up. That's Baxter's move. And it worked. Who are we talking about right now? How many conversations have been had about Baxter? I'm sure countless. So many on so many podcasts. So many. In the past few years, I have hit a point where I only want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable. It happened. It happened to me. But you know what? I still also want to look cute. And these are two desires that are often extremely opposing.
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Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah, sometimes they're speaking in not so greatly dubbed English, and sometimes they'll be speaking French with subtitles. I guess you guys know what alternating between the two means, but it just really was confusing. They are on their way to Alex's parents' house and we see a shot at Alex's parents' house
Starting point is 00:30:58 of her little brother playing in the yard dressed like a cowboy. He's probably about eight. Pro proving my previous theory that all kids are right and i think the mom says like oh get ready your sister's coming clearly these two women are you know this is the house they're going to and just outside this house or like, I don't know, half a mile away, we see a very creepy truck parked in like off the road in like a cornfield ish. Yeah, there's corn and corn in this movie, too. This movie has everything.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I yeah, I love corn. Emily is scared of corn. We're having different reactions here, but reactions nonetheless. To be clear, I am scared of corn. Corn the food. The presents. The kernels. Everything.
Starting point is 00:32:01 So stupid. I don't know where we all are today but I feel like we're all in a similar state and I don't know what it is but we're gonna ride it out we see in the window of this truck a man
Starting point is 00:32:18 with like a baseball cap on you can't really see his face moaning and we see like woman a woman's head giving him a blow job and he we see it for a bit and then he lifts the head up and throws it out window and it is a decapitated head okay and it's right in the beginning of the movie. And I think it's the most upsetting part of them. I was like instantly like my jaw was on the floor for two minutes after that. I was just so shocked and upset. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Oh, no. Oh, what the fuck? I say that's like one of the worst things that happened. So it does set the tone, but it's also like worse than most of the things. Well, you guys, I guess we'll be the judge. Maybe, maybe it's just what upset me the most. It just shocked you because it was the first thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And it's daytime at this point. And it's like right near, it's just after a scene where we've seen like a little boy playing in a field in a cowboy costume. So yeah, it was very effective. And that's just really shocked me. Emily has put her sweater over her head she's trying to hide that is so awful it is it is i just can't i can't i can't stop thinking about it it was it was very shocking and gross yuck yuck am i right i can't wait to hear more 30 seconds into this movie
Starting point is 00:33:52 um so then we go back to marie and alex and now it's nighttime and they're driving, they're getting close. They're driving past the cornfields now, the same cornfields. And Alex says, stop the car. I think I saw someone in the cornfields. And Marie stops and Alex just jumps out and runs into the cornfields in the dark, which is so ill-advised. Like what? If you saw someone, the last thing you would want to do would be to get out of the car and like run right in there. No, thank you. No, no, no. Run away. Run in the
Starting point is 00:34:34 opposite direction. Just keep driving. You're already driving. Just drive right past. Who fucking cares if there's someone in the cornfield? Oh boy. Yeah, you nosy bitch. Let them tend to their corn business. They didn't invite you. And Marie gets scared and jumps out after her and chases her through the cornfield. And the two of them are getting lost.
Starting point is 00:35:00 They don't have flashlights or anything. It's dark. And then Marie hears the car starting up and driving away. Panics, runs, is able to follow the noise and run back to the road and sees the car driving away, yells after it. And Alex laughs and stops. And it's like, haha, gotcha. Very funny joke.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Everybody's laughing and having a good time. I love it when people do that. Everybody's laughing and having a good time. I love it when people do that. And then they get back in the car and they drive just a little further to her, to Alex's house, family home. I was going to really go on a tangent. Maybe we should talk about another time. But I'm just curious.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Have you guys ever had like, I'm sure you have because you grew up as women in the world, like a mean friend, like a friend who's your friend but their whole deal is like mean being mean like that's what that makes me think of it's just like hey I don't want that but we all grew up having like a friend who's like no they're my friend they just make me feel like shit yes oh yeah yeah yeah definitely it's like no like if I had a friend who did that I'd be like what the fuck is your
Starting point is 00:36:00 prop like what because there's so much in like little teenage brains that are just wanting to impress other people and I feel like that's my mean that's how my mean friends got away with this because they were um i guess more popular than me and i was just like i gotta prove myself worthy i guess there's a lot to unpack there but there's a lot to unpack there usually mean friends are are deeply insecure and need to assert power to feel valid. But, hey, if you're listening and you have
Starting point is 00:36:30 a mean friend, they're not your friend. Don't be their friend. There's no need for it. There's no need. Friends should be nice to you. There's lots of nice friends out there. And you deserve them. Anyway, alright, so so far I'm not loving this friendship is all I'm trying to say. Sure, that's fair. They arrive at the house.
Starting point is 00:36:45 We meet Alex's family, her mom, her dad, and her little brother. And they're clearly excited to see her. It's been a while. The women are college-aged, and I think they're about to start a new year of college, so they'll be away for a while. So the family's excited to see her. new year of college. So they'll be away for a while. So the family's excited to see her. And she gets Marie settled in her room. The house is three stories, and the third story is just the guest room. And so Marie is on the third story. And it's clear also that at this point that marie is our protagonist because we recognize her as the woman who is running through the woods in the titles she has like
Starting point is 00:37:35 short cropped blonde hair and um yeah it's just in the way that it's filmed where we get that she's our she's who we're meant to be identifying with. And as Alex is getting her settled in her room, she says, you want me to turn on the radiator? Marie says, no, I'll turn it on whenever I get cold. Don't worry about it. And Alex says, I'm going to go put my little brother to bed. I'll come check in on you in a second. my little brother to bed. I'll like come check in on you in a second. And she puts her little brother to bed and Marie gets like, puts her stuff down in the room, unpacks a little bit, and then goes out to smoke a cigarette. And as she's smoking a cigarette, she looks up at one of the windows and we see Alex taking taking a shower and marie really watches so we get the impression that marie has feelings for alex but it did from their conversations we see that
Starting point is 00:38:35 um it's not you know returned alex doesn't feel that way um but there's just this little moment of like longing marie looking at Alex longingly. Can you see her whole naked body? You see her boobs. Poor window placement for a shower. I was thinking that as well. I don't think I've ever showered in a shower where it's a big window too.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I've showered in showers where there's a little window in the shower. Yeah, sometimes you need ventilation. You could open that window up. Or if they're usually like frosted, you know. There was kind of a big window in my LA apartment shower bathroom. I don't know whether you guys ever noticed that. But sometimes
Starting point is 00:39:13 I would shower with the window wide open and just be like, hope my neighbors don't walk by. I definitely am not sure if people from the street can see. I just assume people can't see in my windows I don't know why but I walk around naked
Starting point is 00:39:29 you can't no no Emily you couldn't I don't think from where your apartment is I'm not gonna change my behavior either way but I've definitely had a thought of like I wonder how many people who live around me and see me naked I guess I don't care yeah that's not in the shower yeah it is funny in like a city that
Starting point is 00:39:46 there would be a big window in your shower because this is at least very rural there's nothing around them they are in the middle of nowhere yeah i guess that's yeah fair still interesting window placement that's all i'm saying am i just trying to delay you ever having to tell us yeah yeah let me tell you something else let's talk about windows um marie then goes back up to her room and throws on some headphones her little walkman listens to a song and starts masturbating which how many times have you guys ever gotten to a friend's house and just immediately started masturbating friend which how many times have you guys ever gotten to a friend's house and just immediately started masturbating? Friend's parents house, excuse me. I was again, like,
Starting point is 00:40:30 very shocked by this moment. I was like, what? It's so relatable. I get it. I get it. That's a huge choice. Yeah. Yeah. Especially with headphones on in a room that I'm assuming like doesn't lock. Yeah. The headphones thing is crazy. You don't know when someone's going to come up to the room and ask if you need anything. You're a guest that has just arrived. The likelihood is high that a parent could come and say, hey, do you have enough towels up here? Are you getting settled? Huge move to just start masturbating.
Starting point is 00:41:05 But that's what she does. That's what she does. And as she does, it is intercut with that same creepy truck that we saw earlier, slowly pulling up to the house. And as it does, we're kind of cutting to each of the rooms, seeing the little brother sleeping, the mom sleeping,
Starting point is 00:41:26 the dad kind of getting ready for bed, and Alex getting ready for bed as the car is pulling up. And then the car gets there. We see this big man get out of the car and come and knock on the door rings the doorbell just at that moment of climax for the masturbating for the masturbating for the masturbating perfect timing love it and that's what she can hear that uh over her headphones and so she takes the headphones off and it's like what the hell someone's ringing's ringing the doorbell. It's nighttime. And the dad gets out of bed, goes down and goes to the door, opens the door. We see Marie get up and look out of the window of her room and she can see the man at the door and sees that as the dad opens the door and says hello the man stabs him brings down a knife on him the dad starts screaming falls into the house marie is terrified kind of freezes and doesn't know what to do and we see downstairs that the man kind of pushes his way in and the dad is trying to uh climb up the stairs and oh god but him no and and then puts his foot on the back of the dad's
Starting point is 00:43:12 head and like stomps it through the banister the railing so it doesn't like stomp his head but it just pushed it's like forces it through the railing. So now his head is stuck in between the bars of the staircase. And then the man walks down the stairs and goes and finds a big heavy dresser and just thrusts it along the side of the staircase and decapitates the dad that way. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. that holy shit holy shit holy shit and at that moment we see the mom hear a commotion and come out and see this um happening or see the aftermath of this rather and marie at this point has opened her door and is kind of peeking out trying to just not knowing what the fuck to do and trying to see what's
Starting point is 00:44:06 happening here. What's happened. She can only hear now the mom screaming. And so she just closes her door and she starts packing, which at first I was like, why is she packing? And then I was like, Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:44:21 she's so smart. And she starts remaking the bed and she goes into into the bathroom and she wipes out the sink so that it's not wet and she makes it look like nobody's in this room she like shoves all her shit under the bed and we see her eye the shower like she's gonna hide in there oh smart. Wow. That's really fucking smart. I don't I would be trying to climb out that window. I know it's the third story, but I'd be like, OK, I saw him come in. He now needs to make his way through the house.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I tried to as quietly as possible make my way out this window and out of this house. I think that would be a good move. But still, this is impressive to make it seem as if no one is in this room and we hear his footsteps coming up the stairs and he opens the door to this guest room and he first thing he does is hold his hand to that radiator and feels that it's cold. And I thought that was very cool too. And like, yeah, how fucking scary that if she had turned it on,
Starting point is 00:45:30 he would have known there's no way to cool that down quickly. So I thought that was a fun little detail. Yeah. And he looks, it does look like nobody's there. He does. He does go into the bathroom, puts his finger along the,
Starting point is 00:45:44 in the sink and it's there. He does go into the bathroom, puts his finger along the sink, and it's dry. He's also, like, really thinking this through, too. Yep, yep. And he looks at the shower, walks toward it, and rips back the shower curtain, and she's not in there. Okay, great. and she's not in there. And then he walks back into the bedroom and pulls up part of the mattress. It's like a pretty thin mattress. So he just basically pulls up a corner of it. Nobody's underneath there, puts it down, starts to walk out. And then the camera lowers and we
Starting point is 00:46:22 see she is under the bed and has like pulled her feet up so she's like in a little ball in in the area under the bed that he wouldn't have been able to see based on what he the part that he pulled up and she is terrified has her hand pressed against her mouth trying not to even breathe like she's just trembling trying to not make any sound like he's so close that i think if she could if she was even breathing he would hear it oh god she's just trembling trying to not make any sound like he's so close that i think if she could if she was even breathing he would hear it oh god she's holding her breath and he um he walks out he leaves and she finally is able to breathe lets out her breath and then we see her we see the man go into alex's room we see also that alex is sleeping with earplugs which is why
Starting point is 00:47:14 she hasn't woken to all the screaming that's happened so far um and the man takes out his little switchblade it's more like a straight razor i guess out his little switchblade it's more like a straight razor I guess that's a switchblade but he takes out the razor and he's like stroking Alex's face with it and she wakes up
Starting point is 00:47:37 and he just looks at her and goes shhh very creepy don't like that no no no no there is a phone in marie's room that is not plugged in and she sees a little plug behind a wardrobe the wardrobe's really heavy she starts trying to slide it and slide it and eventually is able to slide it but the plug she saw is like not a phone plug it's like a i don I don't know, just a regular plug. And so she's like, fuck, that's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Can't call from there. And she tiptoes downstairs to the mom's room. And I don't remember how she knows that this is safe. But at this point, the man is in Alex's room. she knows that this is safe but at this point the man is in alex's room and so marie is able to get past and to the parents room again just looking for a phone like she's just searching for a phone anywhere the phone in the mom's room or in the parents room is also not connected not getting a dial tone the fuck and as she is fucking with and trying to get it to work she hears the footsteps coming towards that room she goes and hides in the closet of the parents
Starting point is 00:48:52 room if i'm her i'm never leaving the room that he already checked yeah right yeah when she'll stay until i mean i guess it's good of her to want to try to call for help, but I truly think I'm like, I ride this out in this room. Yeah. Where he thinks he's nobody's in. I mean, I know that my stress response is freeze. Yeah, me too. I think I just know that. Like, I think I physically probably couldn't do anything but stay in that room.
Starting point is 00:49:22 But yeah, I mean, impressive that she is making moves um and so she hides in this closet and it's one of those closets with like the little slat doors so she can see out a bit um and as she is looking out she sees the mom running and she's bloodied like she has been stabbed but she's not dead yet and she runs and she seems to look right at marie um and i think she's close enough that maybe she does see her but she doesn't say anything and she also goes for the phone sees that it's not working the man comes in grabs her from behind and slits her throat. And it's a pretty gnarly slitting of the throat.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I feel like I've seen lots of throats being slit in movies and this one was somehow different. No! That's already bad enough. It's bad enough. It doesn't need to be worse. I think it's because he's pulling really hard on her head. And so her skin like tears as he's pulling really hard on her head. And so her
Starting point is 00:50:26 skin like tears as he's slitting her throat. Ew. Emily, this is not what Emily wants to hear. These are not the details Emily wants. I don't like these adjectives. No.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And we see marie just again trying not to make a sound hand pressed over her mouth tears falling out of her eyes watching this still making eye contact with the mom as she is dying and then the mom drops to the floor and goes out of sight because marie is she can't move so she can't like look down and we just hear sawing through flesh and blood is just spraying on that closet
Starting point is 00:51:13 door. Ew. And. So this guy needs to take heads off. That's his kind of whole deal. That's what I thought and then. No. He I think hears the little boy. And then... No. I think he hears the little boy making a noise or something. Oh, I forgot about
Starting point is 00:51:30 the little boy. I didn't forget about the little boy. And so he leaves the room, I think, for that. And then at that moment, Marie comes out of the closet and drops down at the mom's side. And her head is still attached in the shot. And I was like, what was he sawing?
Starting point is 00:51:45 And then in the next shot we see her hand just across the room. Just a sawed off hand on the other side of the room. It's never focused, it's not a I don't draw your attention to it, but I was just like, how interesting that he just was sawing off her
Starting point is 00:52:02 hands. That's what they said. Throw up. Then that he just was sawing off her hands. I want to tap out for the kid part. The kid part isn't too bad. Okay. But so Marie goes into Alex's room now and finds Alex completely. She's chained up with like metal chains around her wrists and her ankles. So Marie is pulling at them. It's, you know, useless.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And Alex also has a gag in her mouth. That's like a piece of like rubber that is also chained at the back and really tight. And Alex is screaming and screaming and screaming and freaking out. And Marie's trying to calm her down like, it's okay, I'm going to get him. I'm going to get us out of here. And we see through the window the little boy running into the cornfield and again alex is just fucking freaking out and marie looks out the window and we just hear a gunshot and then we the little boy is not screaming anymore so we don't see it okay
Starting point is 00:53:26 well at least it's a gunshot yeah yeah that's way better that's better marie asks alex where is a phone where is a working phone in your house and alex cannot respond she is gagged and can't say anything but marie decides she's going to go down to the first floor to look for a phone so she can call for help. And because the man is outside at this moment, she sees him. She's able to get down there and hide. And as he comes back in, he goes straight back up to the second floor for Alex. So he doesn't see marie and marie is downstairs and finds the phone um tries it still dead and sees that he has cut the like main phone line so there's no there's
Starting point is 00:54:15 no calling for help here and now is when i leave i leave i leave i leave i leave you drive for help alex is probably fucked sorry that sucks That sucks. That sucks. It sucks. But you simply must get out of there. You know where he is. You simply must. You know where he is. You know he's distracted. You fucking get the fuck out of here. But remember, she loves Alex.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Loves Alex. I think she's gotta get over that. It's a doomed relationship. It's not gonna work out. Get over it, Marie. Marie, get the fuck over it. Um, so the man comes in,
Starting point is 00:54:56 grabs Alex, tosses her over his shoulder and starts carrying her out to his truck. Throws her in the back of the truck. Marie is watching this. Marie grabs a big old kitchen butcher knife thing and is slinking around. It's very stressful. All this is super stressful, but it's a stressful little scene where he comes back in the house.
Starting point is 00:55:18 She's able to slip out of the house through another door. There's a lot of that kind of like passing each other secretly evading him seeing her um and he comes back in and goes to a photo frame on top of the fireplace of alex breaks the glass and uses his nasty little switchblade to cut out her face. Like, cut out just a photo of her face. And he's just kind of looking at it. Probably, like, breathing. You know, the killers always like to breathe loudly. Yeah, they love to breathe.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And they love to do things, like, do things too slowly. Yeah. So, he's obviously preoccupied with staring nastily at this photo of Alex. And Marie uses this moment to go to the back of the truck and is trying to calm down. Alex is saying like, okay, where are you? Like, I'm going to get him. I've got this knife. gonna get him i've got this knife and uh she hears him coming and she's in the back of the truck too and so she basically holds the knife out like she's ready to plunge it down into him right at the at the back of the truck and as he gets to the back of the truck he just slides the door closed without looking in and so he doesn't even see her the way that the angle is he just slid slid the back of the truck closed it's like a metal it's like a milk truck looking thing and just locks it with a padlock and so now they're both locked in there and he starts
Starting point is 00:56:58 driving away cool and we we see we see he sticks that photo of her head on his dashboard where there are many photos of women's heads oh god and they're driving alex is screaming screaming screaming making a lot of noise maria's like trying to whisper, like, you gotta be quiet. You're going to like give us away. Like, just like pretend it's just you here. I got to, you know, he's got to not know I'm here. Yeah. If I were here alone, I'd be screaming. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And they get to a gas station and he starts filling up the tank of gas. starts filling up the tank of gas. Marie somehow is able to get out of the truck, which I just must have looked away at this moment. But let's say there's a little window or something that he wasn't worried about Alex getting out of because she's bound that Marie is able to get out of. And while he's on the other side of the truck filling up, she runs into the store and looks right at the clerk, panicked. The clerk immediately can see something is wrong, says, what's wrong? She says, call the police, call the police. The second she says that, the man opens the door.
Starting point is 00:58:15 She has to run and hide behind a shelf. And the clerk just starts trying to play it cool with this guy. He's very quickly aware that, okay, this guy's the danger. I have to act it cool with this guy. He's like very quickly aware that, okay, this guy's the danger. I have to like, act like I don't, like,
Starting point is 00:58:29 I don't know anything. Uh, the man is fucking with the clerk. He's like, and it's like, he clearly, he kind of knows clearly already kind of knows. Cause he like has blood on his hands and he's not hiding it he's just like
Starting point is 00:58:46 resting his hands on the counter and the clerk sees blood on his hands and tries to reach for a gun under the counter but then the guy like grabs his hand and is like can you get me a bottle of alcohol or like a bottle of jim beam or something and the guy's like yeah yeah sure let me do that for you grabs the keys for the liquor cabinet walks over to it and can he can kind of see from the corner of his eye marie hidden behind a shelf and he winks at her trying to give her signal like it's okay, like it's going to be okay. And as he does that, the man slams an axe into his back and kills him. And, oh, he, no, he slams the axe into his chest. The man falls over, forwards onto it.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And the man again steps on him, him like stepping pressing the axe like into him and the man clearly knows like something's up he's like he then says to the the clerk's dead body what were you looking like what did you see who were you looking at and he's looking around. And it's, again, a scene of her trying to, as he walks by a shelf, her hide behind another shelf. Like the Jurassic Park scene thing where she's just like hiding from him. And she's eventually able to slip into, there's like a downstairs area with bathrooms, a men and a women's restroom. like a downstairs area with bathrooms a men and a women's restroom and they're like big restrooms that i don't think any gas station in the middle of nowhere has where it's like eight stalls yeah no no no no no um but she hides in the last stall and we see the man come down and one by one, open each of the stalls. We see her holding her breath. And he gets to the last stall, hits it open.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It's empty. And we see that he is in the women's bathroom and she is in the men's. And so he then goes into the men's bathroom, but just goes to pee in there and doesn't check those stalls. A woman wouldn't be smart enough to think to hide in the men's bathroom. She's going to go in the appropriate bathroom for her. It's a situation where you never cross those lines. That'd be nasty. And so he is satisfied that he's searched the whole gas station he changes the sign to
Starting point is 01:01:28 close turn the lights off so nobody goes in there and gets in the car and drives off and marie can does not get back to the truck in time obviously and is now in the gas station but it does have a working phone she is able to call the police she says a man um i was with my friend's family he killed their whole family he has her in his truck the cop is saying what gas station are you at she's fumbling through papers and can't find she's like i don't i don't know like i was in a truck i couldn't see uh i don't know where i am isn't that like your job can't you come find me there can't be that many trucks on the road like you need to send someone right now and the cop is being a little rude to her and is like ma'am you need to calm down like calm down
Starting point is 01:02:13 okay and she gets frustrated and screams at him and and she says if i blow the place up will you be able to find it and slams the phone down and grabs the clerk's keys and runs out to his car and takes his car and goes after the truck herself. No. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's not a great idea. It's fine. She's doing it. She's doing it. She already did it. Just let her do what she's going to do. It's fine. It's happening. She's doing it. She's doing it. You know what? Let her do it. She already did it. Just let her do what she's gonna do. It's fine. It's happening. She follows him down. There's nobody else on the road except for these
Starting point is 01:02:53 two cars. He turns off down a abandoned dirt road and she turns off her headlights and follows him. It's like he's gonna see you. Yeah. They don't make you invisible. So it's now in these woods.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's dark. Oh, my God. She's like, kill me, too. Kill me, too. I also want to be killed. It's not fair that Alex is the only one. And he's turning down roads. And she kind of loses him for a second and can't figure out where he went.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Then, of course, in her rearview mirror, his lights are right behind her and he slams into her and drives her off the road. This is the car attack, which actually I think I looked away at this point, too. Not because i was scared but i was just momentarily distracted um right yeah but after this car crash she is like covered in blood so this is must have been where where the blood got on that camera um but she's able to crawl out of it before he gets to her uh there's blood pouring from her head from her arm she has to do like a tourniquet situation in her arm her whole left arm is just like red and she runs into the woods and there's some sort of like greenhouses in the woods
Starting point is 01:04:23 basically plastic sheeting put up with like plants inside, but a bunch of them. Okay. And so she can just see the man's flashlight in the plastic as he's trying to find her. And she's crawling around through each one, evading him, wrapping up her arm. And this is where she finds a broken barbed wire fence, is able to pull one of the little wood planks from it and twists it. So she just wraps the end fully in barbed wire. Real gnarly weapon, but probably a pretty effective one yeah yeah and now that she has this weapon she starts turning to try to find him she's like ready for this confrontation now
Starting point is 01:05:17 and so she starts slowly moving towards the flashlight and it's behind a piece of plastic. And she then pulls the piece of plastic back and the flashlight is hanging on a rope and he has hung it. So it seems like he's, yeah. And then from behind her, he pulls a plastic sheeting over her face, starts strangling her and she drops her weapon and
Starting point is 01:05:48 falls to the ground and he smothers her for a bit not killing her but she's like on the brink of consciousness and um he like gets on he like straddles her she falls down and he straddles her. She falls down. And he straddles her. And he starts again stroking her face with that nasty switchblade. And he says, Alex turns you on, doesn't she? She turns me on, too. Jesus fucking Christ. And we see Marie, her fingers reaching around in the grass around her and she finds a big old fucking rock and smacks it into his head really hard.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And he freezes and falls off of her. His head is now pouring blood. And then she grabs her barbed wire weapon and she just goes to fucking town. And it's really gnarly. Oh, my God. I mean, it actually, like, it does show the aftermath of it. And his face looks really gnarly because it's not like a normal stabbing. It's like little pokes.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Like very deep pokes. So he's just got like holes all over his head. Just little pokes. Big pokes. Big pokes, I should say. With like dirty, gross metal. And he's not quite dead yet. But he is on the floor gasping his final breaths and she now
Starting point is 01:07:29 straddles him and she's like huffing and puffing over his body and then he reaches up and grabs her throat and starts strangling her he has fallen back into where the plastic sheeting was so she's able to pull plastic sheeting over his head so they're basically strangling each other to see who will die first and marie wins and he dies and she lets out this big animalistic scream and then we see police arriving at the gas station and finding the clerk's dead body and they're like okay this is it this is where the call came from like call we've got a homicide we need to get um uh you know backup out here and they go into the room where the security footage is and they play it back and we see Marie killing the clerk.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Oh! Wait a minute. Why is this like familiar to me? I think that this movie was somehow spoiled for me. I don't know, you telling me, you saying this for some reason is really ringing a bell wait keep
Starting point is 01:08:46 um okay so then it cuts back to the woods and it's like dawn now and marie opens up the back of the truck finds alex and is comforting her and is like alex it's done i did it i killed him like it's just it could just be you and me forever now alex is of course still very much freaking out and and marie is like what what like it's over i told you it's over and when marie left the truck she left the knife with Alex being like, if I don't make it back, like, here's your knife, here's a knife, like protect yourself. And so we see Marie undo Alex's chains. And immediately, Alex pulls the knife on Marie and is like, get the fuck away from me. Don't touch me. You killed my fucking family. Marie is seemingly like, I don't know what you're
Starting point is 01:09:43 talking about. No, like, I didn't do that you're talking about. No, like I didn't do that. Like that man did that. I killed him and he's gone now and no one's, I'm never going to let anybody hurt you ever again. Um, Alex obviously buys none of this and slashes her in the face and then stabs her in the stomach and, and runs. And as we see that she's like left the knife in marie and as marie pulls the knife out we see the shot of her and it's the man again so she's like gone back into the man form oh my god wait i don't understand. Was she like, did she still decapitate? Was it still her at the very beginning? That I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I'll tell you. Okay. Keep going. So Alex runs to, finds the main road and a car is driving by and she runs out in front of it, flags it down. and she runs out in front of it, flags it down, and the car has to swerve off the road and, like, hits a tree, like, not badly, but enough to potentially fuck up the car. Alex gets in the backseat, is like, drive, drive, drive, go, go, go.
Starting point is 01:11:01 We see Marie, or the man, rather, this is all, like, played as the man rather uh this is all like played as the man now and he pulls out a cement saw from the truck which is like even gnarlier than a chainsaw it's like fucking huge and just starts running after her with this cement saw uh we see him appearing through the woods and the car the man driving the car that Alex is in can't start it it won't start it's fucked up it's hit something and so we just see the van run he climbs on top of the car and he just brings that cement saw down through the windshield and blood sprays everywhere as he just fucking saws this driver apart.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Oh, fuck. And Alex is screaming. She is in, shall we say, the splash zone of this. Oh my god. She is now drenched in blood. And I don't know exactly
Starting point is 01:12:06 she like tries to climb out of the window but the cement saw is like flying everywhere and so she like throws herself out of this car in a way that fucks her up and now we see that a huge piece of glass is
Starting point is 01:12:22 in her Achilles tendon no no no and she has to pull it out and it That a huge piece of glass is in her Achilles tendon. No, no, no. And she has to pull it out. And it looks really gnarly. But she has somehow in like crawling out of the car. And as the man was distracted killing the driver. Found like a tire iron. But she can't run.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Her foot's fucked up. Her Achilles is all fucked up. And so she is just crawling backwards eventually the man turns on her and he comes after her and he says you don't you don't even love me do you oh my god and alex in this moment decides to change course here and says yes i do i love you i love you i love you so much it's the right call it is and then we see the man turned back to uh marie and she drops the cement saw this is all she's ever wanted to hear she drops down next to um alex holds her face between her hands alex is crying saying yes i love you i love you i love you
Starting point is 01:13:33 they have a horrible horrible kiss you absolutely hate to see murray just going in for this kiss like i love you too but in that moment uh alex takes that tire iron and just stabs it right through her shoulder but it's enough to get her off of it get her off of her and like get her away and it just cuts straight to um or no we see marie's like out of it at this point. She's like not she's not understanding what's happening, I guess. And she just starts kind of rocking to herself and saying, I'll never let anyone come between us ever again. I'll never let anyone come between us ever again.
Starting point is 01:14:16 And at this moment, we do get we do get flashbacks of the whole evening. And yes, it was her doing all of it. It shows her. Oh, my God. Decapitating the dad god killing the mom and shooting the the brother um and holy shit that's a good this is a good twist i really didn't see it coming yeah i was it her then too with the decapitated head at the very beginning yeah that's what i'm confused so let me just say the final little scene here and then we can like talk about all of it because i have some thoughts um but so it ends with
Starting point is 01:14:51 a psychiatric marie in a psychiatric hospital rocking on a table saying i'll never let anyone come between us which is the scene that it opened opened with. And now we understand the context of it. And we see Alex watching her from behind a one way mirror or two way mirror, depending on how you look at it. We'll never know the answer. Depending on your stance. And someone says like, yeah, she can't see you. and someone says like yeah she can't see you but then just at that moment uh marie turns and looks right at alex and like has a huge smile on her face and like reaches for her like she's so happy she can see her and that's the end of the movie so yeah okay y So, I do think that a lot of it is just excusable by it being a completely unreliable narrator.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Because a lot of the stuff is not possible. So, I think we have to just assume a lot of this happened in her head. And it was her own, like, internal battle with this. Okay. Like, you mean she didn't actually kill i i think she did but like she couldn't have been in the back of the truck and the front of the truck like there are scenes that are not like physically possible none of the car chase could have happened she can't be driving two cars so like that kind of stuff i think we have to just assume is her own like narrative that she's building in her head which is it i like an unreliable narrator
Starting point is 01:16:31 story but it and the mom like looking at her while she's being killed right like she's in two places so okay i like that one big problem that i have with it is that it's just like the only gay character is like being driven driven into a murderous rage from like unrequited love or like repressed sexuality which i don't know is their like intentional message but it's really hard not to like see that as part of it that is yeah i think they were probably just going for like what's the biggest twist we can have and like what's the most unexpected thing but yeah i think an unfortunate side effect of that is like a it is a little like has an undercurrent of homophobia in it i think yeah yeah but the movie is so fucking nuts it's almost like yeah there's a lot there's a lot
Starting point is 01:17:35 it's just so crazy i mean it's so crazy so so yeah i guess if you do that then you just live the rest of your days in a mental hospital. And you are visited by the person who's failing. Yeah, I would not be visiting. I don't know. I would just, I don't think I would want to do it. I probably wouldn't. She's like, I visited her on the holidays.
Starting point is 01:18:03 That's true. And it's obviously like so soon afterwards like i like maybe i'm going to visit like 15 years later for like one piece of closure after i've done like so much intensive therapy but probably not even that probably not wow that was i really and i don't know why but the second you said that I don't know I don't know whether someone like a deja vu of it I feel like someone
Starting point is 01:18:32 like maybe spoiled it for me on Instagram or something when we were doing one of those polls like maybe someone like DM'd this movie has the craziest twist something like that yeah yeah yeah yeah I just didn't see that coming at all i didn't even know there was a twist so i was shocked i didn't see it coming at all until you said it and then i was like wait
Starting point is 01:18:51 i've heard this before that's yeah no i mean it's definitely like the twist kind of makes it interesting i think so i think it's like it's effectively different from other things and i like a lot of the elements that it had. You guys know I love home invasion movies. And so I was really into the beginning of it as well. Except for the very gross part that we don't like. But it also feels... It's visually similar to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
Starting point is 01:19:23 which is another one of my favorites. And so, I did like it. I liked it. I don't think it's perfect, but I had a good time. And do you guys see kind of what I mean? That it wasn't as bad as I was expecting? Honestly, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I think when I think of torture porn, I think it gets much worse than this. Yeah. It could have been drawn out. All the deaths could have been more drawn out. Like a gnarlier slasher to me, more so than like a full on torture porn. Right. Yeah, because they're not fully like, they they're not actually, like, being tortured necessarily.
Starting point is 01:20:07 You know, their deaths are pretty quick. Yeah, that's a good distinction. Yeah, it's not like being drawn. He, like, kills them one by one. Aside from maybe Alex, who is drawn out, but he's not torturing her. But she's not being tortured, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:22 She's just being... I'm sure maybe would have been tortured eventually. I don't know. But... Ugh. It's also just fun to have
Starting point is 01:20:36 your final girl be unexpectedly your villain. Yeah, that's fun. That's really fun. That's a real surprise. I like that's fun. Yeah. That's really fun. That's a real surprise. I like that. I... It was still gross, though.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Hey, we did it. We never have to do it again. We never have to do it again. As a matter of fact, we shouldn't do it again. It'd be weird if we did. No, we probably shouldn't do it again. It would be weird. It would be weird if we did it again. Let's do it again. And this time, Emily, we'll you'll act like you've heard the ending
Starting point is 01:21:08 before and I'll act like I haven't. Okay, I like that. Totally different enough that it'll be a fresh episode. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's good. Any no good voices
Starting point is 01:21:22 except your French accent. From all of us here. Too scary. Didn't watch. Oh, it's so good. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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