Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HIS HOUSE

Episode Date: January 6, 2021

A grieving couple, an unwelcoming home, and a pesky Night Witch - we're recapping His House! Available to stream on Netflix. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. ...Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All righty-roo, it's our favorite time of the week. All righty-roo. All righty-roo. All righty-roo. That's my new favorite thing to say. I love it. Along with the names of the following folks, they are sailing in on their big, beautiful ships right into this podcast. This week, we have some new patrons who are vessel heads.
Starting point is 00:00:30 And that is... Sorry, I can't do this. I love the suspense. I love the suspense. Natalie Fitzgerald, Lexi Gibson, and Sydney Gardner. Thank you guys so much for supporting us. We love you forever starting now we love you yes and buckle up we got a lot of new members of tony fucking colette's inner circle
Starting point is 00:00:54 so many up everybody we are thrilled to have them here and they are beth and kyle long connor o'shea are Beth and Kyle Long, Connor O'Shea, Stephanie Fallon, Greg Der Ananian, Shayna Sell, Carol Tan, Noe Ramirez, Desiree Whitney, Ray Flynn, Will Marshall. I'm gonna make a song out of it. Mallory Rice, Haley Greenfield, Kelly Blum, CL, Bonnie Gass. Really great song. Really great people. I loved that song, Sammy. I loved that song.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It was definitely a song. It was a it was definitely a song it was a song wow and it was a great one it was a great one filled with filled with great lyrics great names of my favorite part we love the lyrics my favorite part of that song for sure i don't know the melody is pretty good well it pretty 50 50 um but you not to be outdone, we had a group of people who were, they've been patrons and they said, you know what? I want in that inner circle, too. Oh, hell yeah. Get me in there.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I want a song beautifully written about me by Samantha Smart. And those folks are, I'm also going to sing this, Natalie, Tara Fee, Ashley Boatwright. Oh, beautiful addition to the song. Wow. Welcome. We're so happy you're here. Thank you for your support. We love you forever immediately, starting now.
Starting point is 00:02:17 And that's what we got. So how about we just give you an episode? This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies, and I like telling these two about them, and ooh, did I miss doing it last week. Oh, we missed you.
Starting point is 00:03:00 We missed you, Sammy. Oh, but I had so much fun listening to The Invitation, so much so that I had to watch the end of it. I'm really glad you did. Emily just made it sound so good, and it is. Emily, I do want to just shout you out for that episode because I was truly
Starting point is 00:03:18 on the edge of my seat the whole time. Those are some of my favorite horror movies to hear about when it's all just like relationship drama. That's so fun. It is fun. I love it. It is fun.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Horror movies are great. You heard it here first. We've had a real 180 on this show. We love them. Hey, what's up with us on this first episode of a new year? Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. year oh my goodness oh my goodness oh my goodness well i have a really important groundbreaking new year's resolution yes um which is that i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:03:55 watch the bachelor yes i love that i haven't watched it in so long it's been years it's been years and i really feel like i need to just hop back on that horse, get back on this train and join the bachelor party again. I can't wait to do it. We have a new season starting tomorrow. As of today, when we are recording and boy, oh boy, am i thrilled to just jump feet first right back into the drama of the bachelor um only low stakes resolutions for me this year same same i think i yes low stakes and also like pretty loose you know yeah mine are so low stakes that i didn't actually make any yeah mine for the time being um so most people are going to resume work of sorts most normal normal job people uh tomorrow monday the fourth um the night of the bachelor and um i am not resuming work um because the city is still shut down so i'm gonna try to make some i'm gonna try to make some structure for myself i'm gonna like try to wake up in the
Starting point is 00:05:13 morning and be like my day starts and i'm gonna do my clay and i'm gonna try to make myself end at five and be like you're done for today and step away and be like i had a day and as part of that really my resolution is i'm gonna try to put on clothes when I do that. It's a tough one. It's really tough. And I don't know how well I'll succeed, but I am going to try to put on clothes. That's my resolution. Huge. I really do feel so much better when I, like, not even putting on clothes, you guys, but like, I feel like for so long I've been working, I wake up and I just turn my laptop on and start working. And I don't even brush my hair. I don't put my contacts in.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'm not washing my face. And the days when I actually take the 10 minutes to just do that, I know it's a cliche at this point, but I'm always like, oh, yeah, wow, I feel so much more like a human. I think that's going to be a big one. It's going to be really, I mean, right now I'm wearing a sweater and bike shorts, so it'll probably be a lot of that, like a shirt or pants. Hey, it's clothes. It counts. It's clothes. And I think that's now that you say that, Henley, like washing my face in the morning and like doing my little morning routine as if I were because really I've gotten to a place now where I'm like what am I gonna like waste face wash and I'm gonna like waste moisturizer but the answer is like you'll probably feel more like
Starting point is 00:06:37 a normal human if I because I'm like what I'm like literally not gonna move at all I'm not gonna sweat at all I washed it last night I going to wash it again tonight. Why would I wash it another time in the morning? But the answer is mental health. So I'm going to try that. I'm going to try that. It's a real scarcity mindset you have there, Emily. Yeah, I don't know
Starting point is 00:06:58 what it is. I think it's just like I don't know. Gotta make it last. You gotta make it last. See what I mean? You didn't last see me you didn't make one i didn't make one and i guess it's just to to not care about anything at all well you know what i think about a lot actually um is the and i wasn't even a part of this but the fact that last year at this time and we've probably talked about this in the podcast before you guys were making vision boards. Yeah, we've talked about it a few times.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We were so full of hope and dreams and, you know, never again. Never again for me. Never again. I have been thinking I might take last year's vision board and edit it for current circumstances. That's nice. Like, I think I am going to put some time and effort into being like, not this, this didn't work. But like, you you know let's sort of just make it more realistic i don't know we'll see if i actually end up doing that but that's a thought that i had um but i did i'm i'm back in los angeles i did spend new year's eve in my own
Starting point is 00:08:00 home uh which which was nice kind of weird i was very disoriented for a few days. I couldn't remember where I kept things in my house, like scissors. I couldn't remember where I kept scissors. It was very weird. Scissors are always a thing that you take for granted. And then when you don't have, it's such a pain in the ass to not have scissors. You know what I'll add to that also? A stapler. Yeah. Not as imperative as scissors, but I certainly have bought a stapler every time I've needed a stapler because then I don't know where the stapler went. Yep, yep. And my cats did not remember me. They ran and hid under the couch when I walked in only for a few minutes and then they remembered.
Starting point is 00:08:42 But it was pretty sad nonetheless. But now they're they're re re-acclimated to me and they love me again but um i forgot how naughty they are they were immediately just bad like the first night i heard um a crash in the kitchen in the night and i wasn't i wasn't even gonna check it out because they're always just doing bad stuff and sometimes i'm like i'll fucking deal with in the morning who cares and i walked out and they had knocked over a bottle of melatonin and there were melatonin pills everywhere and they were both going for them and like in their mouths and i panicked
Starting point is 00:09:23 um and i i gathered them all up and like put them back in and started counting them i like got one out of mac's mouth and um the bottle had 90 in and i had taken one and i counted 96 and so i was very mad because i was like well i have no fucking idea what that means. And then I was frantically Googling and apparently cats can take melatonin. And so I relaxed a bit and it was fine. And they did not calm down at all. So I think that they didn't even eat any because they were bad for the rest of the morning.
Starting point is 00:10:01 They did not go to sleep. Probably not. What is it with cats what are why are your cats eating pills like i feel like cats don't want to eat anything they both kind of just like to hold things in their mouth and then they spit them back out they do it whenever a cricket comes in they'll hold it in their mouth and spit it out a bunch of times until it dies it's really cruel imagine being just held in a wet mouth until you die. It's horrible. I always try to capture the cricket before it gets in that mouth even the one time. But Mac also does it with blueberries.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He just wants to hold it and feel it in his mouth, I guess. That's so funny. It's very weird. Cats are very naughty. Very naughty. They're very naughty. But it's good to be home. And more than that, it's good to be back with you two here on the podcast doing our favorite thing.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Our favorite thing. Should I tell you what this week's movie is? I think you should. Please do. Okay. This week, we are going to be talking about His House. are going to be talking about. His House came out just this year, October of 2020, directed by Remy Weeks, written by Remy Weeks, story by Felicity Evans and Tony Venables,
Starting point is 00:11:22 starring Shope Dorisu, Wunmi Musaku, Matt Smith, and our boy Javier Botet. Oh, hell yeah. I'm excited for this one. I don't know anything about this movie, but it looks spooky to me. It's pretty spooky. It's streaming on Netflix, if anyone wants to watch it. Is it? It's a Netflix movie, right? It's a Netflix. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Actually, I didn't totally look that up. I know it premiered at a festival in January. Henley, does Netflix buy stuff from festivals? Yes, definitely. It might have been purchased from a festival. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't actually produced by Netflix. Yeah, I don't think it was produced by Netflix. Yeah, the production company is Regency Enterprises. Well, it's very good. And it's one that, you know, because it came out in 2020, I was curious to see if it was going to be a contender for my infamous top 10 list. And it's a contender, guys. It's a contender.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Is it really? That's kind of a big deal. That's kind of a big deal. Thank you, Henley. Yes, it is. Honestly, Sammy, I love your top 10 lists. I love them so much. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It just makes me so happy. They're very fun to do. I look for, I can't, every day I'm like, I can't wait for the next one. Listeners, check it out. She's working through the TV list right now. You can see the posts. Go check it out. Hello, everybody, and welcome to Cocktail Hour. This week's movie has a lot of holes being banged into walls. And so we are going to be drinking a Harvey Wallbanger. To make a Harvey Wallbanger, you will need one and a half ounces of vodka,
Starting point is 00:12:56 two and a half ounces of fresh squeezed orange juice, a sixth an ounce of sugar syrup, two dashes of Angostura bitters, and five twelfths of fluid ounce of Galliano L'Authentico. You will stir the first four ingredients with ice and strain into an ice-filled Collins glass and float the Galliano on the surface and garnish with an orange slice. Cheers. As far as trivia goes, there's none.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I looked on our trusty IMDb, nothing to be found. Oh no. But I saw that the budget was $17 million, but because it's Netflix, there's no return. But I was no, you know, we can't see the return. But I was curious, Henley, does Netflix buy a movie like this?
Starting point is 00:13:53 What's the strategy there? Hoping that it will get new subscribers? Yeah. Okay. Yes. Because I feel like I hadn't heard about this movie at all until I was doing research for my top 10 list. Well, so I don't know. I mean, I don't obviously that's not what my job is at Netflix.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I don't really know. Henley. But I. Figured out Henley. Ask around. You work there. I hope no one's listening to this um yeah so so but i think they definitely buy a lot of things that they haven't produced themselves because they have
Starting point is 00:14:37 like such an insane budget and they can do that um they did it a lot this year especially because they knew that things weren't going to be able to premiere in the theaters. And so they took advantage of that. And also, a lot of people were kind of like, you know, desperate and needed wanted to figure out a way to show their, you know, their production. And Netflix was like swooped in, was like, we'll do it. They're trying to get new subscribers. I would. But they're also just probably trying to give you a reason to stay right and be like oh well netflix is getting cool
Starting point is 00:15:09 shit so i don't want to not i don't want to cancel my netflix subscription right and you know what i wonder if if there was any like awards consideration because i feel like the performances in this are really fucking good and i bet they'll do like a four-year consideration run with guys on that note this is the first year since i've been in sag that i remembered to pay my dues in time to get screeners so i think i'm gonna get screeners so excited that's exciting every year i'm like god damn it um and then also for for netflix i just want to say that the marketing that they do is very, I like don't understand. They don't do a lot of marketing. No, they still need to answer for not promoting teenage bounty hunters.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I need them to answer for that. To me, a lady they don't know. I know they do a lot of like consumer research and that's a big part of what they're doing, but they're not exactly... I don't know. I just feel like a lot of stuff gets lost in the shuffle. Oh, yeah. Also wanted to say that this movie has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Holy shit. Pretty damn good. Pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Pretty much as good as it gets. Yeah. That and fucking paddington too ever heard of it ever heard of it from me have you ever heard of it from me um this is me like trying to find my own trivia i like it i also found that shopei durisu and whenmi Mosaku were both in Black Mirror. Unmi Mosaku also is in Lovecraft Country. She was my favorite character in Lovecraft Country. Ruby is her character name. She's so fucking good. Both of them are so
Starting point is 00:16:54 fucking good in this. And everyone's British, yes? This is a British movie? Yes. Has Matt Smith ever done an American accent, and do we think that he can? I'm sure that he can. He's a very good actor, but he's just so British to me. He's so British. It would be really weird. I would love to see him doing an American accent.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It wouldn't feel right. You know what? On that similar note, I watched Tenet this week. And Robert Pattinson, Rob, we love Rob, is British and he is a British man.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But it threw me off because he's always doing American accents in his movies. And I was like, he sounds weird. He sounds weird to me, even though that just is how he talks. That is funny because Robert Pattinson's accents are always, always weird. His accent. Always weird. But I think just hearing him be regularly British was just like, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Anyways. Shall we watch this trailer? Oh, my God. Yes. Congratulations. You're being released as asylum seekers, not as citizens. Not yet. You will be sent to a home of our choosing.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You must not move from this address. We are good people. Whether or not you're good people, it's not me that needs convincing. It's a palace. This entire house is just for us. It's gonna be nice, you're gonna be happy. As long as you can get along fit in people are good ones This is our home
Starting point is 00:18:37 I saw something in the dark you have felt it too. You having problems with the property? This is what they want. They like to see us crazy. Let them send us back. How quickly you forget. Everything we went through to get here. We are not going back. There is no witch. Get out! What is that?
Starting point is 00:19:22 Rats. Rats did this? You went outside. This is my house! This is my house! This is my house! My house! You don't wonder what it tells me.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It says I should be afraid of you. and says I should be afraid of you. Oh my god! That looks like a really well done. This looks incredible. It's really good. It's a beautiful movie, but also I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's scary. I just hate the fact that these two people have already been through the most horrific traumatic thing you could possibly ever experience and then it just gets fucking worse and that's what the movie's about that that or oh i can't i can't wait just from the description when you're like this movie came out do you want to do it this week and I just looked up and was like yes like the premise alone like yeah
Starting point is 00:20:29 the whole like you think you're escaping like unbelievable horror and then you find yourself in this other insane kind of horror and also the real life horror of being an immigrant who is experiencing racism and like the system is trying to fuck you over.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And it's just like, and then there's a fucking things in the walls. And then you're afraid of your partner. Things are, things are bad. Things are not fun in this movie. Oh God. Although I did really like giving problems with your puppy.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Anyway, Matt Smith, very British. Um, yeah, that's the only saving grace. And also, I mean, I don't know whether it's like this in the movie, Sammy, but in the trailer, the sound is very spooky. The sound is very spooky. The sound design is great. Like I said, both of the main actors are so good.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I really liked this movie I think it's great I also saw that it's only an hour and a half long is that true? Yeah. How do they do all that it looks like they're doing in an hour and a half like even in that trailer how is it how do they do it?
Starting point is 00:21:39 It's Remy Weeks' directorial debut too so it's quite the debut. Okay, well, let's rip this band-aid off. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. If you're a new parent, a bad day means you either ran out of coffee, diapers, patients, or all of the above. Stocking up on cold brew and deep breaths are all you, but at least Hello Bello's got your baby's butt covered.
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Starting point is 00:24:48 off everything on Raycon's website when you go to buyraycon.com slash too scary, buyraycon.com slash too scary. Okay, so we start in South Sudan, and our main characters, the husband and wife, are Bol and Rial. Bol is Shope Dorisu, and Rial is Wunmi Mosaku. And Bol is carrying his daughter, who is carrying a little creepy doll right off the bat i think that's a bingo thing there is no daughter in this trailer so already not a fan of that i didn't see a daughter so cool yeah so um they're kind of they are walking across kind of a desert. They get to a truck where people are loading into the truck. It's clearly, you know, they're they're trying to escape.
Starting point is 00:25:53 The truck takes them to a boat where they're crossing the English Channel in this tiny little boat. A bunch of people in one boat then allow. Oh, and we see Rial holding her daughter saying, I'll protect you. It's okay. I'll protect you. And then we hear the motor kind of crash, and then it just cuts to a bunch of people thrashing in the water and screaming. the the daughter is screaming mama mama and then bull wakes up and he's having a nightmare and they're actually in um uh a like a holding room in a detention center and he wakes up and real is watching him sleep and says, what were you dreaming about? And he says, our wedding day.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And she says, that explains all the screaming. I have a little laugh. They're in just a tiny little room with another man. And then there's a knock at the door. And it's one of the you know government workers saying uh they want to see you in the gym and there's kind of a row of people interviewing them basically and they say you're you're being released um today if you're lucky, just as asylum seekers, not as citizens yet. And Bull, you can see, is like so, so happy.
Starting point is 00:27:29 He's like laughing and crying. He's so fucking good in this. He's laughing and crying. And they're like, well, you're not citizens yet. You're going to be under a lot of conditions. And if you break any of the rules, you'll be sent back. So here are the conditions. First, you must report to us weekly.
Starting point is 00:27:53 If you miss any report, you'll be sent back. Say yes if you understand. They say yes. Says you'll be given financial support of 74 pounds a week. You're not allowed to work. You are not allowed to supplement this income in any way. Do you understand? They say, yes. They say, you'll be sent to a home of our choosing. You may not move. Do you understand? Like, you have to stay in this home. understand like you have to stay in this home and bull says we are good people like you you won't be we won't let you down and he says whether or not you're good people it's not me you need to convince just say yeah like say you understand and he says yes we understand are these normal conditions yes oh god um so i yeah i was reading a bit with an interview with the director and he said they did a lot of research into the actual refugee intake process in the UK. And yeah, this is like pretty much exactly it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, already just like such a devastating start to a horror film. devastating start to a horror film and but like to be sent to a house that you are not allowed to leave and that's like part of the thing is you know we know where that's going we know that's what i was thinking too i i was thinking about how like in every other house horror film you're like just fucking leave right like you leave. Just get the fuck out of there. In this situation, that is not an option. Right. At all. So, Bull seems very excited.
Starting point is 00:29:34 They get on a bus. They are taken to this super run-down little apartment in a row of housing kind of on the outskirts of London. There's furniture and trash all over the lawn. And Matt Smith is, I guess, their caseworker. I don't know what his name is. And I'm going to call him Matt Smith. Perfect. And he's kind of like saying like, oh, you guys hit the jackpot.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like this place is so nice, bigger than my house. And saying all these things like you should be grateful for that. He says like usually it's a place half this size with double the people inside. You've got it. You got it pretty good. They go inside. And as like Matt Smith opens the door, it breaks and he's like, oh, you're going to want to fix that.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And the electricity doesn't work. And he's like, yeah, we'll send someone out to fix the electricity. And it's just like peeling wallpaper. It's filthy. There's a pizza box in the kitchen. They open it. Of course, it's like filled with bugs.
Starting point is 00:30:42 But one thing that stuck out to me is it's filled with roly polies. They're not cockroaches. They look like cockroaches at first. But then I was going through it again to take notes. I was like, are those those are roly polies? Just made it seem a little stranger. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Roly polies eat pizza, I guess. Do roly polies eat pizza? That sounds like a kid's book. I know. Do roly polies eat pizza? Do caterpillars eat cereal? So Matt Smith is then turning to leave and he says, you guys are going to be all right. Just, you know, get along, fit in, be one of the good ones.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Which is a very gross thing to say. Very gross. Be one of the good ones. And like, I understand that you are new to this country and know nothing, but just go ahead and fit in. Yeah. Like, what? Yeah. Ugh, disgusting.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Not good. in yeah like what yeah yeah disgusting not good um so matt smith leaves they are left to be alone in their new house bull again just cries and laughs he is so relieved um real is upstairs sitting on the bed and she's stroking the doll that we saw in the opening scene, her daughter's doll. And it has little beads along the edge of its skirt and she pulls the beads off on a thread and puts it on as a
Starting point is 00:32:18 necklace. That night, I mean, they still don't have their electricity so they're sitting with a little candle in the middle of the living room, sitting on the floor. And Bull is just super optimistic. He's saying, we'll be new here. We're going to be born again. overall seems a lot more excited and positive, and Rial seems a lot more skeptical and just obviously traumatized and sad. So then we cut to her. She has gone upstairs to bed, and so now it's just Bol downstairs by himself, and he hears coming from the corner of the room there in one of the walls in the living room there's a big hole in the wall where you can see through to the wiring type of thing kind of at the near the near the floor and he goes to to inspect a little closer doesn't
Starting point is 00:33:30 see anything he's like oh must have been nothing goes to leave the room and then again oh god and as he is then like approaching the hole in the wall, we see behind him a basketball hits the window. It's like just neighbor kids playing basketball, but it scares him so bad. He has like a full panic attack and we hear these building noises of screams and gunshots like he is reliving trauma. And he's, you know know plugging his ears and all these noises are happening and then it goes quiet and he's scary it's terrifying but so he then goes up to the wall he presses his ear against the wall and there is a loud thud from inside the wall he lays down to go poke his face up in that hole in the wall, which I was not fond of.
Starting point is 00:34:47 He reaches his hand in into a dark hole. That humming is coming from. That humming is coming from. And the camera is, you know, cutting back and forth between on him and on the dark hole in the wall. The camera is, you know, cutting back and forth between on him and on the dark hole in the wall. And as it's on him, we see behind him his daughter going, what? And then he turns around and she's gone. And then he turns back and a crow flies out of the hole.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Oh, my God. Two big jump scares right in a row they both got me real good and i feel like two jump scares in a row is is kind of funny because it's like you think you're you think you're past it um and then he like gets up and he's like straight what a strange house he kind of like shrugs it off as if it's not the craziest thing that's ever happened and then the next morning he's uh you know he's fixing the door that matt smith broke the front door he's kind of got some tools out he's kind of starting to fix up the place um and real comes downstairs and sees that um he has thrown their daughter's doll in the trash. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And she doesn't say anything, but we can tell she is upset by it. And then she tells him to come over to the window. She says, come look outside. Look at this. And he walks over and she says she says it's the queen and we see it's just like an old british lady walking down the street and he he like laughs and he's like where's charles and then they both just laugh and it made me laugh. That's cute. And Bull goes to take out the trash
Starting point is 00:36:47 and we see a pretty creepy neighbor watching him from next door. It's another older woman who is like stroking her cat and just staring at him and he's trying to be friendly and smiles and waves at her and she just doesn't respond
Starting point is 00:37:04 and just like keeps staring at him and petting the cat it's very unsettling um he goes into town to get a haircut and he's walking by a church and someone comes out of the church and is like hey you wanted them refugees and like come in here i got something for you and that was a good accent i really liked it and they give him like a like a box of supplies donation type things and they're all watching a sports game in there um in the church for some reason and they're kind of singing whatever sports anthem team they like. I don't know anything about
Starting point is 00:37:52 sports. Sports anthem team. And Bull picks up the lyrics pretty quick and sings along on the next chorus and they're all like, yeah! And he looks all pleased with himself. Nailing the fitting in. up the lyrics pretty quick and like sings along on the next chorus and they're all like yeah so and he like looks all pleased with himself
Starting point is 00:38:07 nailing the fitting in yeah he's very much trying to fit in he comes home later that night and tells Rial he's all excited he's like yeah I was singing along to this song and tells her whatever the lyrics are
Starting point is 00:38:23 and she's like, yeah, I was singing along to this song and tells her whatever the lyrics are. And she's like, sounds pretty stupid. And but he's pleased with himself. That night, they're both asleep in bed and Bull wakes up and hears footsteps and kind of slowly gets out of bed. We hear just someone fully walking around downstairs so he gets up and he's like creeping down the stairs and he walks into the living room and the light is on but they don't have electricity and so he's like super confused and he flips the light switch off and on and it just doesn't do anything. The light is just on. And then
Starting point is 00:39:10 a panel of wallpaper just slides down. Slides off. Falls off the wall with gross sound effect. It's like revealing another hole in the wall. and through this hole we see like cut wiring and so he's
Starting point is 00:39:32 super confused and trying to figure out how the fuck is this light on he reaches in to grab this wiring no no no no no he's reaching in far too many far too many holes yeah and um as he's kind of trying to he's he starts pulling it and he pulls it and the light goes off and then we see he's super focused on this we see behind him a door opening creaking open slowly and he's he's kind of frantically pulling at this wire which now which keeps coming and coming and coming and he's like pulling it like a rope and then it turns into a rope and then it's covered in kelp and seaweed and it's like as if it's a boat anchor As if it's a boat anchor. Wow. And he's like pulling and pulling and pulling.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And we see a very tall figure behind him kind of breathing and approaching. But he is so focused on this rope that he doesn't notice. So we just hear like breathing and the footsteps coming closer behind him. He pulls, pulls, pulls, gets to the end of the rope and it's the doll that he threw out. No! Oh!
Starting point is 00:40:54 Did he throw it out, though? We don't actually know whether he did or not because we didn't see him throw it out. It was in a trash bag, so it wasn't in the wall. That much we know. Attached to a C-rope the wall that much we attached to a c-rope he didn't attach it to a c-rope and bury it in the wall that much we know at least get his doll out of here attach it to the c-rope throw it throw it in this hole in the wall
Starting point is 00:41:19 throw it up the wall and so then he's staring at the doll and then two hands come out of the wall grab the doll pull it back in and he hears the breathing behind him turns around to look behind him nothing's there and then turns back forward
Starting point is 00:41:40 and the wall is sealed the wallpaper's up there's no hole in the wall oh boy oh boy oh boy and the wall is sealed. The wallpaper's up. There's no hole in the wall. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. The next morning, Rial comes downstairs.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Bol is not there. And Rial just sees all of the wallpaper in the house has been pulled off. So Bol was, like, freaking out and trying to find this hole in the wall and there are some more holes in the walls um but it's clear that he's had a had a little freak out i mean for good reason god would freak out and pulled off all of the wallpaper then we see bull is at the store buying tools. He's buying a hammer. And oh, and one thing that Matt Smith had said earlier was that there's a clinic nearby. They need to go get blood work done, I guess. That's part of the immigration process. And he had drawn them a map that's just like a few lines on a piece of paper with something labeled as Church Street. And so Rial is trying to follow this map.
Starting point is 00:42:55 She goes outside and it's getting really turned around. All of the houses look the same. So it's super confusing. And there's like dead ends so she keeps kind of running into a dead end she runs into one dead dead end where there's like a little boy playing kickball so she turns around and then keeps walking in the other direction and then gets to another dead end where the same boy is playing kickball she's super confused and sees a group or or there's like this teen you know like a uh you know british teen that's coming up behind her being like hey hey miss hey miss, just kind of taunting her. She just ignores him, and he eventually leaves her alone.
Starting point is 00:43:49 She sees a group of black teens, and, like, you see her look relieved, and she, like, goes up to them and says, can you help me? Like, can you help me find Church Street? But her accent is thick, and they make fun of her accent and one of them's like yeah it's that way it's that way and then the other one's like no it's that way and then the third one's like no it's over there and they're just fucking with her and telling her like all different directions to go and confusing her um and then one of those one of them is finally like no it is that way go that way and she's like are you sure and he, no, it is that way. Go that way.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And she's like, are you sure? And he's like, yeah, it's that way. And she's like, she says, thank you. And they as she's walking away, they yell at her to go back to Africa. What the fuck? Yeah, it's pretty horrible. Do people actually do that? Like, what is wrong with people?
Starting point is 00:44:41 I think they do. I think they do. Yeah, I think. What the fuck is wrong with people? I think they do. I think they do, yeah. I think they do. What the fuck is wrong with humans? It's devastating. Real life horrors are the scariest thing of all. Are the most horrific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I stand by that 100%. most horrific in any movie or book or anything is when someone has like is really excited for something or really hopeful and this happens a lot with like kids i feel like yeah and then their expectations are like destroyed like completely trampled on i find that to be one of the hardest things to have to watch and And I feel like this whole movie is, I mean, with Bull specifically, kind of what's about to happen. Well, we'll see. We'll see. I don't want to get ahead of myself here.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Things could get better, Emily. They could get better. Yeah, things are about to get really good. They could exceed his expectations. We don't know. But okay, so Rial eventually finds her way to the clinic. She is getting her blood work done by a doctor who compliments her necklace. And Rial says, oh, it was Nyagax.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And the doctor says, oh, is that your daughter? She definitely says it was Nyagax too, which is, pretty insensitive of this doctor to not pick up on. And the doctor's like, mine's a real handful. How's yours? And it's just awkward. And she just kind of pauses and doesn't say anything. And the doctor kind of gets the hint. And Rial has tribal markings on her, like basically like scars in patterns on her face.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And the doctor says, oh, that's those are so pretty. I feel like this doctor. Hey, hey, lady, shut up. Just shut up. Just you don't have to do all this. You don't have to do all that you're doing. You really don't. And Rial says, these ones I've had since i was a young girl and then she shows her her arms and
Starting point is 00:46:47 there's all different patterns and scars there and she says these ones i gave to myself after i found my family butchered and she says there's two warring tribes where i'm she says there's two warring tribes where i'm from and And I've marked myself with both. I survived by belonging nowhere. Oh, they're so pretty. Yeah, I really like them. Anyway, your blood work will take about a week. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's not a pleasant interaction. You know, sometimes just how are you? Yeah. It works great. Let's just do that. Yeah. Hey, how are you? Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Real comes home. There's like a teen girl peeing in her front yard, like popping a squat. What is up with teens in this film? The teens are out of control. The teens are out of control. The teens are out of control. I feel like teens are bad, though. I think that's true. Is that because you watched Euphoria?
Starting point is 00:47:50 Here's the thing, though, because sometimes I think teens are really good. That's true. Yeah, I think that teens are actually mostly good. You know what it is? It's just with teens, there's no in between. Like you are either great or you suck. and there's like kind of no other way to be a teen i think i sucked is why i that's why i see that and expect that from other teens i was just a brat and i hated everything you're so filled with hormones you're just like
Starting point is 00:48:20 fuck everybody yeah so she's she's popping a squat in the front yard one of her friends is yelling like hey some i think somebody lives there and they like run off giggling real sits on the floor in the living room and we hear a little thud behind her and it looks like a grocery bag has fallen over and a bunch of peaches are rolling out and one peach rolls further than all the rest right towards her and we're getting a POV from inside the hole in the wall and we hear a little whisper that says,
Starting point is 00:48:58 Come. And the peach stops right next to her and then as she reaches for it, it continues rolling towards the wall. And then we see POV from in the wall again, looking at the peach and then looking up. And we see as if it's making eye contact with Rial. And Rial just really wide-eyed looking back i will say real contrary to bull never looks fully scared she looks kind of surprised at time like she doesn't know what's happening but bull looks very scared a lot real justial just looks kind of like she doesn't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:49:46 You know? Do you think that's on purpose? Yes. Do you think that's a choice? I feel like that makes sense with him at the beginning. I feel like he is more inclined to be like, everything's going to be okay. I'm positive
Starting point is 00:50:04 and it's gonna be fine and she's like very aware of all of her trauma so it's like that wouldn't scare like everything scary has already fucking happened to you that's exactly right or when you've been when you've been traumatized as severely as she has it's like it's just another fucking thing it's you kind of shut you kind of shut off like a portion of your brain that can go to those extremes whereas i feel like yeah if you're like everything's gonna get better and then it stops you're like why what uh how you know you're like i could understand leaning into to fear more as opposed to just being like all right what's what's this next thing
Starting point is 00:50:40 exactly not that um we are trauma experts or understood god no um anyway i'm yeah i'm i'm coming at this from a fucking like film perspective like an acting acting perspective yeah i'm not a survivor of trauma so bull comes home that night and real has a dinner all set up on on the floor that she's laid out a blanket it's candle litlit. And he's impressed. He says, oh, you left the house. Because she had been kind of stressed before, they had spoken like, maybe you'll leave the house today. And he was kind of encouraging her to try to, you know, go outside. And she did. And so he's proud of her. um you know go outside and she did and so he's proud of her and but then he says but he's like oh this is nice but like maybe next time we can use the table so it's again like clear that he's trying to do normal you know like european things where she's kind of trying to hold on to, you know, the way they did things at home. And so she's using her hands to eat. And he, like, passive aggressively goes and grabs her a knife and fork and hands it to her.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And he's like, use this. And she uses a fork and she says, all I can taste is the metal. And he's like, you'll get used to it. And so then they're eating and he's saying you know they'll give us a chance here like we can we can do this we can start fresh we can start a family and she looks hurt by that and she looks at him and says my mom used to tell me a story. There was an honorable man who wanted a house, but he was very, very poor. But he wanted the house so badly that he started stealing from people in order to be able to buy a house. And he stole from a man that he did not know was an apeth, which is a night witch. And so when he
Starting point is 00:52:47 built the home, the apeth lived there too. And she says an apeth has risen from the ocean and followed us here. And she says, we don't belong here. If we leave and repay our debt, it will guide us back to her. Uh- her oh so something happens that she feels guilty about she thinks that there's a way we don't know what this debt is yeah but there's a night witch and bull gets angry and says nyagek is gone and real starts arguing back in their language, Dinka. And he says, speak English. And she says, I'll speak my mother's language. And he yells at her, we have grieved enough. Like, Njagek is gone.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And then we cut to, I guess she is upstairs and Bol is in the living room alone. And he's peeling off the kitchen wallpaper now he's like continuing to peel off wallpaper he's got is still lit by candlelight um and then one of the candles goes out and there's only one candle lit near him and we hear humming again. Oh, Jesus. And then the other candle goes out. And he hears the humming coming from the other room. He looks through the doorway across the hall and sees what looks to be kind of an older woman shuffling across the room slowly. And then the figure pauses and turns to look at him.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And it's wearing like a mask, like a white mask. And then it continues walking. And then there's another loud bang. And then even closer, a smaller figure, like, runs by, and he's freaking out, and goes to the, or follows it to the room, and it's Njagek, and she's sitting with a knife, kind of stabbing the same spot in the floor over and over and over. And he's like, Njagek, Njagek, and approaches. Njagek attacks him with the knife. He lunges back, doesn't, then Njagek disappears.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Then he's looking around, can't see her, turns around. She like jumps from really high at him again. And he gets away again. And he runs outside. He's terrified. And as he gets outside, the neighbor is watching. And she's staring at him out the window. And he's so frantic.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And he looks up at her and smiles really big and waves. And I thought that was like one of the most devastating parts in the movie of like, he can't even like let himself be scared. He can't ask for help. He has to act like everything's fine. Oh God. And so he's outside and goes back inside. Rial's downstairs now. And she says, you saw it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You saw it, right? And he's like, we got to destroy everything in this house. Like, you're right. There's a curse. And we brought it here with us. So we got to burn everything that we have. He takes the scarf off of her head. She's like, what the fuck? He's taking the shirt off his back. He's taking all their clothes, taking the shirt off his back he's taking um all their clothes starts a little bonfire in the backyard and um he's just burning everything that they have and as they're standing next to the bonfire he sees that she's wearing the necklace of the beads of the doll oh no and she like sees him look at it she says don't like don't do it and he like reaches for it and she she's protectively like don't leave me with nothing don't leave me with
Starting point is 00:56:53 nothing and he grabs the necklace off of her and then the next day he's going to bowl goes to the mall to get more clothes because he burned all their clothes he's looking at the models like on the wall like as if it's like a like a gap he's like seeing what the models are wearing and he buys exactly what the models are wearing. And then he gets back home and he's starting to try to fix the wiring. Oh, he does fix it. He gets the lights working, the electricity working. And as he's doing it, he cuts his hand.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And so he has to bandage up his hand. We see Rial walk in. She is in the clothing that he's bought her with the tags still on. She looks pretty mad and upset. Then they they sit down in in the kitchen and at the table and she says we're not like them and he says we can be like we're gonna be we will be like them and she says like do you think i'm going crazy and he says like yeah maybe you are going crazy frightening yourself with bumps in the night like basically trying to pretend it's not happening and saying like yeah maybe you are maybe you're driving yourself mad
Starting point is 00:58:28 and oh no and she says after all we have seen after we've seen like what men can do you think bumps in the night are what I'm afraid of you think I even could be afraid of ghosts hell yeah
Starting point is 00:58:44 I mean, she's got a fucking point. And I would like to reiterate, men are scarier than ghosts. Always. Always. Every time. Always. I think you're right. And then he's, you know, angrily starts
Starting point is 00:58:59 eating his dinner or whatever, kind of blocking her out, not talking to her anymore. And then we're close on him with the camera and then the camera pulls back gets a little surreal here so bear with me as i try to describe it camera pulls back and she is not there anymore it's just him alone at the table and it's as if the house has blown up and there's only one piece of wall left so it's like um yeah just him and one little piece of wall behind him. He's not noticing yet. We pull out further and we see that he is surrounded by water,
Starting point is 00:59:32 like as if he's floating in the middle of the ocean. Oh, and then we see in the distance kind of bodies starting to come up out of the water, kind of like skeletal corpses, basically. And then he looks down and there's one at his feet and he's looking at it. And as he looks at it, the eyes open and look at him. And then he jumps awake and he is back in his living room as if it were a dream and then immediately there's a creek in the corner and one of the creepy corpses just comes out of the corner of the living room what it's not a moment of reprieve i was like oh
Starting point is 01:00:22 phew we're past that scary part. Just a dream. Nope, it's still going. It's still happening. And it's all this like creepy moaning too. And so this corpse is coming towards him. He reaches to turn the lights on. And when he turns the lights on, it disappears. And then he's breathing breathing heavily leaning against the wall and we see footsteps we see like footprints on the floor moving closer to him he's watching the
Starting point is 01:00:53 footprints and he turns the lights off again just as an experiment and it's it's back the corpse is back and and he turns it back on. And then while the lights are on, we see Njagek on the other side of the room holding the light switch. And then the lights go off again. Now there's a whole bunch of the corpses there. No! They all attack him. One of them jumps up on his back with a knife and starts like trying to slit his throat. And we see his hand like reaching for the light switch.
Starting point is 01:01:31 He needs to turn the light back on. It's about to kill him. He gets to that light switch. They're all they're all disappear. And he's just hyperventilating, holding his throat. And then he screams. throat and then he screams even this is this is my house and takes his one of the hammers from the floor and just starts banging holes in the wall because he's like hearing the footsteps like they're in the walls again and he just
Starting point is 01:01:57 starts banging holes in the walls and then we cut to him in Matt Smith's office the next day looking not well. He is not slept. His hand is bandaged from when he cut it doing the wiring. There's some blood on his shirt. And he's like basically like, well, yeah, we need a new house. We're going to need a new house. Just kind of frantic. And Matt Smith is looking at him like okay bowl
Starting point is 01:02:25 like uh or he says to one of the co his like co-worker there's a few other people in the in the office and he's like can you go get him like a glass of juice or something and they bring him a cup of juice he's holding the juice and he's like okay tell me what's going on like why do you need a new house? He's like, we have vermin. It's rats. We got rats and we need a new house. And Matt Smith is, is like, well, there's rats everywhere.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And he's like, oh, it's just any house, but this is fine. Any house, but this, he's like, okay,
Starting point is 01:03:00 so it's not the rats that like, what, what are you talking about? And Matt Smith is like trying to be the, he's just kind of like i'm on your side bull i'm on your side disgusting and he's like but this is going to raise a lot of questions like we'll have to do an inspection and some people not me but some people might ask why is he biting the hand that feeds him ew are you fucking kidding me matt smith is like okay like i'll see what i can do we'll see if we can get you into the house we are gonna have to come inspect the house to do that and bull kind of
Starting point is 01:03:38 starts like manically laughing like he's so happy and he crushes the glass in his in his hands they like hear a crack and he looks down and he has crushed his juice glass and he just looks at it and stands up and runs out and matt smith is like what the fuck is going on not good we see real back at home she is sitting in the living room and a hand reaches out from the wall and drops the necklace that was burned. Wow. Okay. Ghosts can be useful sometimes. I'm going to bet there's no downside to this offering.
Starting point is 01:04:19 She looks and from every hole in the wall of now there are you know many because bowl has hit holes all over and there's basically a pair of eyes staring out from every single hole in the wall wow it's very spooky then matt smith comes over to do the inspection that's not gonna go well with another but also like when were they gonna fix fix the electricity, by the way? Were they just never actually going to do that? I guess they were leaving it up to them after all. Seems like they should have done it. But yeah, no, they never did.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And so they walk in and they're looking around and say, must be some pretty big rats. And Matt Smith says, you know, know i'm gonna have to report this i'm gonna have to take photos and bull is like no please don't report it please don't report it like let me fix it and matt smith says okay we're we're gonna let you off with the warning and the other guy that's with him is like what like? Like, no. And he's like, no, we're going to let him off with a warning. It's fine. If you fix it, it's fine. And. Oh, that is a thing that makes me so mad about the world, which is like having to thank someone
Starting point is 01:05:40 for not being as much of an asshole as they could be where it's like yeah I'm I'm gonna be kind and not do the thing that I also don't have to do but I'm gonna make you thank me for not doing the shitty thing because I could do a shittier thing I hate it I hate it too when it's when it's so obvious this person needs
Starting point is 01:06:00 help and the fact that you're not only not helping them but just not hurting them more yeah like thank you oh yeah yeah really i really it is how oppression continues i makes me so angry and then rial walks in and says have you told them about the witch oh my god honestly rial's my fucking hero. Matt Smith and the other guy like, look at her. And we're like, what?
Starting point is 01:06:30 And she's like, oh, yeah, there's a witch living here with us. And Bull was chasing it all night with a hammer. Oh, uh-oh. Oh, no. She like fully knows what she's doing, right? Yeah. Oh, no. She fully knows what she's doing, right?
Starting point is 01:06:44 Yeah. And Matt Smith is kind of like, okay, well, we're going to leave. Good luck to you. Whatever. Fix the walls. Best of luck. Good luck with your life. Best wishes.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Best wishes. As they're leaving, she looks out the window and they're watching them go and she says to bull like they prefer us being crazy like makes them feel better about themselves if they think that we're just crazy and she says let them send us back this is not our home and he says no we're not going back and she says i'm going back with or without you and he says how quickly you you forget everything we've gone through to get here. And she says, how quickly you forget our dog. And as she starts to say it, he covers her mouth. He's all angry.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And he says, this is our home. We're not leaving. And he takes out a hammer, starts knocking off all of the doorknobs from the inside like he is locking her in there with him like you're not leaving he locks uh hits off the handles on the windows so she is like now locked in with him and he is in an in a increasingly yeah kind of unhinged stage uh so she's upstairs he sits in the middle of the living room lights a candle kind of sitting cross-legged like he's trying to now call the witch to him closes his eyes basically says show yourself and uh we see a tall, lanky, Javier Botet-shaped man. We don't see too much of him yet.
Starting point is 01:08:34 He's very shadowed. The candle kind of turns into a full fire, like as if it's a fire pit between them. So he's obscured by flames and darkness as we just see his spooky little eye and the witch i guess says to him your life is not yours you stole it and then bull says what do you want what do you want and he says your life for Nyagak, take this knife and open your flesh. Oh, my God. And hands him a knife or like holds out, offers a knife. And Bol looks at it and says, why don't you come for me yourself?
Starting point is 01:09:14 And the hands like retreat back into the flame. And Bol is like, little cogs are turning in his head. He's looking like he's trying to figure something out. And he holds his hand into the flame. nothing happens and he doesn't feel it and he says you can't touch me you can't actually do anything to me and then he like starts laughing and he's like you're just tricks you're just an illusion ha ha and then it's like growling, like getting angry. And then in a flash, Bull is standing in the middle of the ocean. And it's dark and stormy. And again, there are bodies around him.
Starting point is 01:09:57 And Bull is immediately like, no, no, no, no, please, no. Not this. And he goes to cover. He uses his hands to cover his eyes. And another pair of what seemed like his hands come out to pull his hands off of his eyes. And then he turns his head to look away. Njagek is like rising out of the water in front of him, facing him. And he turns his head to look away.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And then two more hands press on either side of his head to force him to face forward to look at Njagek and her mouth opens with a horrible moan and tentacles start coming out of her mouth. Okay. And then it cuts to we see real looking at at bull who is basically like catatonic in the living room he's just like sitting and staring forward um so he's like lost in this little vision that's happening and she's like great i'm gonna escape and so she yeah she's like i'm out
Starting point is 01:11:03 of here oh perfect timing uh yeah she basically like snaps in front of oh he's lost in a vision hell yeah this is my this is my opportunity um so she I think smashes a window and climbs out of a window she starts to run away as she jumps out of the window her clothes change and she is back in south sudan and a a woman she's like confused walking around a woman comes out of a door in front of her that she recognizes they hug she's like so happy to see her the woman leads her into uh what looks like a kind of classroom type thing and there's a bunch of other women in there that she recognizes she's crying she's hugging all of them she's so happy to see them all they sit in kind of a a circle and she's crying and she at first looks like she's crying like with happiness and then it kind of turns and you see that she's crying with sadness and she turns to the first woman and she says, you know, this I know this is this is a dream.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I know this is a dream. And she looks very sad and she says, where is my daughter? And the woman says, who? And then we see from the inside of this room out at the pathway outside, we see Bol walking by, also in different clothes with a backpack on, yelling, Rial, Rial.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And he goes into the room and we see a cupboard and we see real get out of the cupboard and um we are like now living like in a flashback of when they were leaving south sud Okay. And so this is where she was hiding. And as he helps her get out of the cupboard. He's like, we got to go. We got to leave now. And as they're leaving the room. She turns and looks. And it's like all of those women.
Starting point is 01:13:19 All of their dead bodies. And so she survived by hiding in this cupboard. It's really devastating this movie oh my god and so they are um running through this war zone you see them hiding you see a man running by on fire gunshots everywhere they make it to this bus and the woman, the bus is full. There's so many people like trying to like screaming, trying to get on the bus. And the woman on the bus is like, no, you can't come on. Only children.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And Bol looks and sees Njagek, who is not their child. And Njagek is screaming, Mama, Mama. She doesn't know where her mom is. And Bol grabs her and says, We have a child. We have a child. And Rial looks shocked and confused. child and real looks like shocked and confused and then the woman is like okay lets them on the bus and then as they're driving away we hear nyagak nyagak and we see oh no we see no her mom no it's it's so devastating oh my god uh we see her mom and nyagak is like screaming for her
Starting point is 01:14:47 mother and oh my god bull is uh like it's okay it's okay like we're going to safety we're going to safety and we just hear her mother like screaming and crying and sobbing like chasing after the bus it's so sad holy shit i did not see that coming what a fucking twist yeah what a twist oh my god no wonder they have a witch haunting him what a fucking evil thing to do i mean i know it's desperate like needing to survive you'll do desperate things but jesus christ oh it's awful it's awful for everyone it's awful for everyone yes it's very bad and so then we go back to the um her in her other vision in this classroom surrounded by all the women that she knew and uh she is uh real is sobbing and
Starting point is 01:15:44 one of the women reaches and touches her stomach and says, you don't have a daughter. You don't have a daughter. And she sobs, and she says, is she dead? And we see all three of them were in the water and Njagek was further out. And Bol is kind of pulling Rial in. And Rial is like, I need to like, let me go. Like, I need to get Njagek. Let me go. Let me go. Bol doesn't let her go, pulls her into the water. And so it's clear that Rial kind of was trying harder to save Njagek and Bol was trying to save Rial.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And then we go back to her in the schoolroom and she's sobbing again. And then we hear the witch voice saying, I can bring her back, sever his flesh and bring me his body. saying, I can bring her back, sever his flesh, and bring me his body. They're telling her to kill Bol, and he's told Bol this as well, like, basically, I will, you know, trade a soul for a soul type of thing. So she, in that experience,
Starting point is 01:16:59 she convinced herself that N'Gak was her daughter? I think so, yeah. Because she refers to her as her daughter and in this scene, she looks as if she, yeah, is like learning this information. She looks
Starting point is 01:17:14 devastated and she looks surprised. Wow. So she goes back, she's looking kind of determined that she's going to go, I guess, sacrifice her husband to get Njagek back. She goes into the kitchen together, sitting in the kitchen, and she's eyeing a knife on the counter behind him. Is he still in his trance no he he is awake now but she gets up to pretend to go like wash her hands at the sink so she can grab the knife she doesn't grab it but she goes to goes to the sink like she's going to grab it on her way back she's looking determined determined but you know nervous and then we hear a knife clatter and a slash and she turns around
Starting point is 01:18:11 and bull has sliced himself yeah he just slices a big slice in his arm oh whoa says, this is what it wants. Let me save her. Like, I should have tried harder to save her. So he says, let me save her. It's coming. You should go. You need to leave. And she's crying. And she starts walking out of the room.
Starting point is 01:18:38 You hear kind of the witchy sounds, the kind of moaning sound. the witchy sounds, the kind of moaning sound. And as she leaves the kitchen and we see kind of the walls start shaking in the kitchen and then in the floor, a piece of the ground kind of falls out and it's all like sand underneath and a hand shoots out of the sand and then another hand and javier botet emerges from the sinkhole that's opening up in the kitchen floor and grabs bull and says you know you're you're mine now the witch grabs bull arm, looks at the cut in his arm and takes his finger and pokes into the cut so hard. Ew. It's awful. And then sticks his whole hand into the cut.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Ew. As if it's like a puppet. Like he is starting to put his arm into Bull's arm. Oh, it's really gross. Oh, God. This is the type of body horror that Emily is not a fan of. Let me tell you. It's nasty.
Starting point is 01:19:54 No, I don't love when someone puts their arm inside someone else's arm. I don't love it. It's not for me. It's not my favorite thing. It's not good. Yeah. it. It's not for me. It's not my favorite thing. It's not good. Yeah, so he says,
Starting point is 01:20:06 you're mine now, and we see a hand reach for Rial's hand, and we see that it is Nyagak, and she is back. I was certain the witch wasn't going to fulfill. I mean, because that's what we talk about a lot. They never do.
Starting point is 01:20:22 It's not a rule. Don't make a bargain with someone that has no reason to uphold their end of the bargain. What's their motivation? No. There's no contract law they have to abide by. Ay, ay, ay. Rial is crying. She looks down at Nyagak.
Starting point is 01:20:41 She's looking like torn. She doesn't know if she can go through with this. She says, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I have to say goodbye now. I'm going home. And she lets go of Nyagak's hand and she grabs that knife
Starting point is 01:20:58 and she jumps up on the night witch's back and slits its throat, which I guess worked. And it works. She kills it, which is not how I would think it would go with a Nepeth. You can kill a Night Witch, it ends up. And it dies. And her and Bull hold each other.
Starting point is 01:21:20 And that's the choice that she made. And Bull's okay. I mean, bull's okay i mean he's bleeding out he's okay so by doing that she kills nigek again yes yeah the next day the inspectors come and the walls are all patched up it's not not painted. It still looks bad, but it's better. Like they are fixing it. And Matt Smith looks pleased. The other woman that he's there with is like taking photos, kind of muttering like, like, what the hell? Like they can't do this to the walls. And Matt Smith is like, it's fine. Like they're fixing it. It's fine. He's like, it's fine. Like, they're fixing it. It's fine. The lady, like, gives him a weird smile and is like, okay, like, whatever, and goes outside. And so it's just Matt Smith and the two of them.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And he's like, you guys look better. They look, you know, not covered in blood anymore. And he says, is there still a witch? And Bull says, no, Rial killed it. And Matt Smith kind of laughs and is like, oh, okay, great. And then he says, do you still see her? And Bol says, Njagek? Which I guess he had maybe told, I didn't catch it, but I guess maybe he had mentioned that he sees Njagek or something.
Starting point is 01:22:51 And he says, yeah, do you still see her? And Bull says, your ghosts follow you. They never leave. They live with you. And it's when I let them in that I could start to face myself. And then he says, this is our home and we're happy here. And they hold hands. And Matt Smith is like, okay, great. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Like, see you guys later. Leaves. It's just the two of them. They close the door behind him. They're holding hands and they look across the hallway and they see Njagek standing in the other room by herself. And they're kind of looking at her. And then the camera cuts back to them and we see them in their room is like filled with other people now it's like them and 40 other
Starting point is 01:23:34 people standing beside them all around them and then we cut back to nia gek and again it's like 40 people standing around her and we're seeing that this is like the survivors and the people who died. And they all just look at each other. And that's the end of the movie. Oh, fucking brutal. Wow. Wow. Oh, rare horror film where no one actually dies in the end but it's still so extremely horrific well
Starting point is 01:24:05 that's true but i guess she was dead in the beginning right um wow so they both that's oh man they both ended up choosing to save the other rather than this child yeah and i think it's more um maybe choosing the future over the past not letting your not letting your um learning to it's a kind of similar to babadook of like learning to live with a ghost yeah because it's you're never going to be able to outrun it and to like accept the choices that you've made and move forward knowing that right that you've done them rather than uh like ignoring like he was like i feel like at the beginning he was ignoring and she was ruminating yeah on and and so like neither of them could move forward yeah well also for so long in the movie you thought she was kind of like the realist who understood what was going on when the whole time she was like
Starting point is 01:25:05 living in a delusion that she'd created right and without confronting that choice on her own she was able to blame him and like and yeah yeah be in that position of just hating him rather than acknowledging what what had happened and oh shit
Starting point is 01:25:22 it's so good I mean I really loved this movie it's obviously devastating and not an easy watch but i'm i i really loved it i mean i love that she kills the night witch that's like a fun refreshing thing to happen in a horror movie that never happens no one ever gets to actually like kill the monster kill kill the monster in that way. But I love that it also still does have negative consequences. Like it's not like she defeated the monster. She killed the monster.
Starting point is 01:25:51 But also but then it also killed this kid again. And you have to just be like, there's no full escape. It's just like, what choice are you going to make? And how can you live with it? Yeah. Oh, well, as always, the true scariest thing is really real life real life yep it's a lot to lot to sit with i will not be watching this movie not because i think it's too scary but because i don't think i i don't think i can do it it's yeah i mean it's not an easy watch but i'm very happy
Starting point is 01:26:19 that it was made and i feel like the best horror is horror that addresses real life things. And the scariest things aren't happening to white suburban families. Certainly not. And also, I feel like horror movies are getting better about this, but the best ones are when it's actually very good storytelling and very good like, you know, you really see the people's relationships and you believe them. And I feel like they did a really good job with their relationship with having them have those little interactions that were like just clearly showing their dynamic where they're kind of laughing together, like bonded in some way. And it adds like layers and depth to the story. And it comes back to it right there at the end right that even that joke of like they're back on the same page they're like
Starting point is 01:27:08 no she killed the witch like they think that's fine and they're like also he's not like don't say that you know which is a cool way to like very subtly address like they're they're moving forward together again yeah because honestly that was the thing that was one of
Starting point is 01:27:24 the very devastating parts of this movie is the idea of like of going through all of that with someone and being like they're the only person you have in this new completely unfamiliar place and then you don't even have each other and how like how truly isolating
Starting point is 01:27:40 that is yeah yeah I'm sure she would have felt horrible if also she'd been the reason that he died, too. Yeah, exactly. So, there's, like, no good option. And that's also probably part of it, is that they were never... They're not given good options.
Starting point is 01:27:56 They are not given good options. No good options. They're not given good options. What a good movie. Wow. It's really good. Sammy, thank you for... Thank you for telling us about it we um we'll all be waiting with bated breath to see whether it hits your top 10 or not very exciting we love the anticipation it's like the academy awards it's just as exciting. It is like that. In both excitement and acclaim.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Uh-huh. I honestly trust your process more, though, than the Academy Awards. That's true. Me too. I also trust my own process. Should we do the church guy's accent? Yeah. What was it like?
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah, it was it like? Yeah, it was like that. Cockney, kind of. Yeah, Cockney. Cockney. Cockney. Cockney accent. From all of us here. From all of us here.
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