Too Scary; Didn't Watch - IT CHAPTER TWO

Episode Date: September 11, 2019

More uninhibited violence against children, a corpse driving a getaway car and still not even CLOSE to enough Pennywise - let's talk It Chapter Two! Sammy tries to convince Emily and Henley to see this not-so-scary horror film by taking them through the "scariest" parts. Is it fun and worth seeing? Or "dumb and bad"? Does Bill Hader hate us? Let's find out! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, a horror movie recap podcast for those of you too scared to watch for yourselves. I'm Emily. I got really excited there. So good. I'm Emily. I'm one of your hosts and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley. I am also too scared to watch scary movies.

I'm Sammy. I'm extremely brave, very, very brave. And I felt really brave watching this movie. You really have been knocking it out of the park for us. I'm surprising myself. Well before we get into it um did anything scary happen to you this week? Well I guess the scariest thing that happened to me this week was when uh Sammy texted us last night a photo of her her foot after experience. You're gonna have to explain this Sammy because I don't understand what it is it's some kind of all right it's a foot peel it's an exfoliating foot peel you

basically put like two plastic bags on your feet and let it soak i've heard about these yeah i mean they're pretty great but there is a two-day well more than two-day phase of your feet looking absolutely disgusting it's hard to the best descriptor is when you used to put glue all over your hands as a kid and then peel the glue off only it is your profoundly worse because it is your skin and also there's more of it yeah there's like so much of it yeah it's very gross it didn't look like it was from the natural world i took my socks off and i was like gotta text my friends i need to share this scary moment with my friends okay what about you guys

um i saw the director's cut of midsummer oh right it was a extended scary look at codependent relationships all the added scenes were just additional relationship fights between the two. And boy, oh, boy, it was a scary reminder of toxic relationships. How much longer was it? It was a half hour longer, I think. Oh, that's a lot of fights, though. Yeah, there was one big one in the middle where she basically is like, do you not love me anymore? And he's like, I'm sick of like you doing nice things for me to make me feel bad. And she's like, you think I do nice things for you to make you feel bad? Oh, God.

And he's like, yeah, because you always want to be the victim and I'm the villain. Oh, no. Oh, that is bad. That is really bad. Really sweating in the audience. And you know about how that we discussed that that's a breakup movie that like really leans into like, oh, here's what you were going through. Yeah.

Also how two people can create their own narratives within the same relationship and just live into them fully. Right. Even though if it's not based in reality. What an empathetic perspective on that conversation. I'm like, good job. That's really, it's very nice that you're getting, you're the one of us who's getting married.

I believe in you. I believe in your future. That's a, it's very nice that you're getting, you're the one of us who's getting married. I believe in you. I believe in your future. That's a really good perspective. Either that or just like so detached and like looking at everything from a million miles away. Like, oh, wow, look at that. Like you're in a thing. Just being human beings.

You're an alien studying the human species. That's how I feel. That's great. Emily, what about you? I was driving in traffic next to one of those big tourist buses. That's like a double-decker. And the whole side of the bus was plastered with a huge shark with its mouth open. I am truly, in a way that I can't explain or process so scared of sharks terrified of sharks

like can't look at picture like so scared of sharks and i was next to this bus for like 10 minutes oh my god you kept thinking i was gonna get away from it but we were in like stop and go traffic and i truly it was like honestly a danger on the road that they shouldn't be allowed to do that because I couldn't look to that side of me and I have to pick my feet up off the ground when I see pictures of sharks as if which doesn't work when you're driving when you're driving it's bad

so really honestly I think that that is an unsafe choice by I don't know the bus company Star Tours I don't know who is bigger than Star Tours but I don't know it is bigger than Star Tours, but I don't know. It was bad. It was scary and I didn't like it at all. I'm glad you made it through it. Thank you. Wow. Sounds like we all had

pretty scary weeks. Pretty scary weeks. And here's a fun fact about today's episode. No guest. No guest. It's just us. It's just us, baby. Intimate little gathering of friends talking about this movie. i'm so excited about all right baby this week's movie is it chapter two i saw it last night i am ready to talk about it sammy's like

vibrating with excitement right now she loves it so much um it was two hours and 49 minutes the longest horror movie ever made i read somewhere you know i didn't fact check but we don't fact check on this podcast listen you read it on the internet we're setting that as precedent you love facts this is not the podcast um okay again Okay again directed by Andy Muschietti Based on the second half of the Stephen King novel And this time starring Jessica Chastain, James McAvoy Bill Hader, Isiah Mustafa And of course

Bill Skarsgård again, the love of my life Pennywise Real heavy hitters This is so many big names in this movie It's honestly why when I first saw the poster I was like, oh, I'll see that movie. And then like, no, I won't. Yeah, hell no. But

what a cast. Okay, well, I was going to say that I was going to frame this episode as me trying to convince you guys to see this movie because I loved it and I did not think it was scary and I think you might like it. Oh my God, I want to see it. But then I talked to Jenna who just saw it but she said it was very scary to her

so now I'm not so sure. Well, you know what? You'll decide for yourself. Let us be the judge. We'll listen to this rundown. Well, Henley, I don't have much hope for. I feel like there's no way in hell I'm convincing her but Emily, I'm holding out hope. Oh, I'm like a little convert baby. I would see it again with you.

I'm the swing vote, baby. If you're like Emily and you're feeling like you might be brave enough to see this movie, but you need a little liquid courage, or if you need courage just to listen to this podcast, I have the cocktail recipe for you. Because this is the conclusion of the story of Pennywise the Dancing Clown, we are drinking a last dance. To make a last dance, you'll need six to eight mint leaves, a half an ounce of brown sugar simple syrup, one ounce fresh lime juice, three quarters an ounce

of honey simple syrup, two ounces of tangaree gin, and 10 dashes of Angostura bitters. Muddle the mint leaves with the simple syrups and lime juice. Add crushed ice and the tangeray and swizzle and top with 10 dashes of the bitters. A nice little bitters float. Pennywise would be so happy that we are all floating together with our drinks. Did that joke work? I'm not sure. And finally, we'll garnish it with mint. Cheers to you for being so brave and cheers to Pennywise's last dance. I didn't

look up that many reviews because it just came out and so I wanted to really be surprised by it. Yeah. Okay, well then I won't say. Rotten Tomatoes' score is lower than the previous. I did see that. And I did see when I looked it up today, the headline of a Jezebel article that I did not read.

But the headline is simply, It Chapter 2 is bad and dumb. Oh, good. To the point. So, they have some thoughts. They have some thoughts. I don't know. It feels like they were sleeping on that headline, gotta say. Jezebel's really honing it in there.. In a way, it maybe is the best headline.

I love it. But I also disagree. And I looked up some fun facts, some trivia. The only one that I honestly found that interesting was that the young actors who were in the Losers Club from chapter one grew tremendously

was the wording in this trivia, in the two years following filming. Because what were they, like 13? And now they're 15. That's some crazy puberty stage. So they had to digitally de-age them. I saw it. I could tell.

There were parts where I was like, what the fuck is going on with their faces? They softened their features. And you could tell in the theater. And they raised their voices. I wasn't totally sure but i like there was definitely a few shots where i was like they look weird and i saw that finn wolfhard is quoted being like yeah they like softened my features a lot like i'm sure that he's like grown up now

fucking manly um he was really he needed people to know um and the actor who plays Ben, his name is Jeremy Ray Taylor. Look that up. Grew nine inches. Holy shit. From filming a chapter one to chapter two. Wow. All right. I think I'm going to really try to convince you guys to go see this with me. To be fair, when we watched the trailer for the first one, the way it's filmed felt almost like, oh, you're watching a scary Harry Potter.

Like, it felt like big budget. Right. And there's this kind of commercial vibe to the film. It's not dirty in the way that you said that dirty, scary movies are bad. That's true. And it's also not like, it doesn't feel as real, like viscerally real as some of the more scary ones. And another thing that I noticed for me personally that makes it a lot less scary is there's so much comedy in this movie that it's hard to ever like sit in your fear

like the tension is constantly broken with a joke or like a one liner and it just makes it so much more enjoyable and I do love Bill Hader so much Bill come on the pod oh my god I love him so much

either Bill Either Bill. Can I tell a quick side note about Bill Hader? Yes. When I was looking at things to tweet from our account today. We're on Twitter. There's one press video that Bill Hader does with Finn Wolfhard and they're supposed to explain what happens in chapter one so to get ready to for chapter two very similar to the podcast that we are doing right now but he said he was like this is dumb he was like this is dumb i don't know why we're doing this why don't you just go to wikipedia and read a summary of what chapter one was and i was like wow bill is probably not going to come on the podcast that's a direct hit to our podcast direct like, that's a direct hit to our podcast, Bill.

That is a direct, I take that as a direct hit to our podcast. I would take that personally. Anyway, I just wanted to mention that. All right. Should we watch the trailer? Yeah, let's do it. Let's watch the trailer. Sure, I'm scared, but let's do it.

Henry's more up for it than she was for chapter one, so that feels like a good sign. I'm going to close my eyes. For 27 years, I dreamt of you. I craved you. I missed you. We need to finish it. For good. I've seen all of us die.

It consumes us from the inside until we don't have a choice anymore. You lied. And I died. You lied! And I died! Let's just dive into it. Dive into it. Okay, so I'm going to start off by saying that I saw it yesterday.

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And then this like group of bullies, we're back to bullies. Well, this time it's a hate crime. It's like, no. Well, there's some teens and some like early 20s people. So it looks like a couple adults. Yeah. OK. And so they kind of follow them out of the fair and they're on a empty street.

And they basically, yeah, just like start beating both of them up. And they are like beating the shit out of the one guy. And then they they're on a bridge. And they after they've like beat this guy up a lot, they lift him over the side of the bridge. And they're like, welcome to Derry, they lift him over the side of the bridge and they're like welcome to dairy faggot and like throw him off what the fuck it's so crazy it's a very intense hate crime right off the bat and um he's like in the water and they leave and his boyfriend's like calling over the side of the bridge like are you okay and he's like trying to stay afloat in the water and he's like help me help me and then you see pennywise on the shore reaching his hand to him

and the boyfriend runs down and pennywise looks at the boyfriend and thing and just like bites into his chest and kills him. No. Already no. Not seeing this film. It's not a limb. I can handle this so far. It's a chest. You can lose a chest. Chest bite. Chest bite.

Not so bad. Chest bite. Also, I do like how quickly it seems that these movies just like get into it. Pennywise will destroy you. That's what's up. Okay, so then we go to Mike, who, if we remember from the last movie, he's the one whose parents were

burned alive in a house fire. And this actor from the Old Spice commercials. He's great. He's's great And everyone is great I feel like everyone in this movie is really good But so he's the only one Who has stayed in Derry All the rest of the Losers Club

Have left And he's kind of like gone a little crazy In Derry and so he's like holed up And listening to like a police scanner And so he hears well he had some pretty extreme trauma as a child yeah he sure did um and so he hears the like description of this specific attack and is like okay it's back like it's time to he's been waiting out the call. And so he basically calls each of the losers

to be like, it's time to come back. And through that we get like a scene of each of them and kind of where they are now. I'm just going to run through them. So we start with Bill. Bill is a famous screenwriter now. Which one was Bill? Bill's the one with the stutter. His stutter

is George's brother. So that's James McAvoy. the one with the stutter. His stutter is George's brother. So that's James McAvoy. That's James McAvoy. His stutter is gone. He's a famous screenwriter. This movie jumps character to character. Its structure is very strange, but I guess that's how it was in the book. Okay, then we cut to Richie. Richie is Bill Hader. Richie is

Finn Wolfhard as a kid. Oh, God. I just want to say one more time. I love Bill Hader. I love him. Just one more time. Even though he hates our podcast, I love him. He made a direct attack on our podcast. He directly attacked us and our podcast, but I love him. I fucking love him.

He is a shining star. He's having a moment right now. He is a shining star in this film. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he got nominated for something for it, because he's really great. Would they nominate a horror movie probably not but maybe bill hater who knows who knows he's the best you know he's had 21 emmy nominations holy shit that's a lot that's a lot of emmy nominations okay so it cuts to a shot of him like vomiting at with the phone to his ear so the second he's gotten this call from mike he just immediately throws up well and his biggest fear is already clowns yes let's not forget um and his manager agent or

whatever is there he's got people fussing around him that are that are like well hurry up you got to be on stage right now and he's like okay well i need a glass of bourbon and a couple of mints and he's like drinking his bourbon and eating his mints and he goes on stage and he's a stand-up comedian oh cool relevant and he's like not sure what's and eating his mints. And he goes on stage and he's a stand-up comedian. Oh, cool. Relevant. And he's like not sure what's going on. And the audience is like, boo, you suck. And he like gets really disoriented.

Does he have like a panic attack? It's not a panic attack, but he just like doesn't quite know what's happening. He blinks on stage. So basically what you kind of start realizing is that they don't remember what happened. And so they're having like kind of physical reactions without knowing why. Oh. Whoa. But they understand why they need to go back?

Well, some of them. Is it like repressed trauma? I think so. I think that's what that's called. Well, and it's like, well, yes, it's like that's like what's going on beneath it. But then the like lore is there magic in the yeah in the movie it's like the further away you get you kind of start to forget but pennywise's influence stays with you and so that's why isn't that what's happening in the town itself is that everyone's like

they would have to forget otherwise right yeah it wouldn't work and everyone's like infected by Pennywise. They would have to forget otherwise it wouldn't work. And everyone's just evil because Pennywise is infected. Oh, I wonder then why Mike didn't. It was because he was actively engaged with it. And like stayed and kept it in his mind. He works at the library now. He's like the librarian and he's like constantly

surrounded by all his... They came from meat doing. Murdering the sheep me doing like a like a working at like a slaughterhouse that's the one um so then we go to eddie my favorite character he's the hypochondriac kid he's amazingly cast as the grown-up version i don't know his name. I didn't look it up. That's rude because he deserves a shout out.

That's rude. Yeah. So basically, Eddie is, I mean, looks the same, acts the same. This casting was spot on. And he's driving and has the same like kind of neurotic energy. He's on the phone with his wife who has a like striking resemblance to his mom oh no no no no and um he she's like she's like you're gonna get in a car accident yelling because he's like yelling at other drivers and he's like statistically if i'm gonna get a car accident it's because i'm talking to you so i have to go and he's a risk analyst and it's just everything

is perfect lining up Everything's lining up. It's lining up. And so he hangs up with her. And then she calls back. She's like, you didn't say I love you, just like his mom used to do. Whoa, that's awful. And I liked this because it was kind of like because they've forgotten the trauma of childhood, they've fallen into the same.

They weren't able to grow past that point in their lives. Wow i really i liked that that's kind of profound um and so then he hangs up with her and gets the call from mike and of course that's what makes him get into a car i was gonna say he gets in a car accident yeah because he's so thrown um and they all get very discombobulated by these phone calls um and then we go to ben and emily will be very happy to know i'm ready for a show yes oh yay and he's hot it's a like boardroom meeting and he's like the executive like skyping in being like you guys are like looking at this all the wrong way and you know what it gets better you know remember that campaign it gets better it gets better it gets better he is very hot he's super hot and he's got a like big old mansion he's businessman a big successful business he's a big successful businessman We got a meat doer and we

got a businessman. Former meat doer. Former meat doer. Now librarian. An ex-meat doer librarian. Well, I used to do meat, but now I do books. Now I'm into books. Now I do books. Now I'm into books.

Now I do books. Oh, God. Okay, so then we cut to Bev who gets the call and she doesn't like quite know what's happening, but she knows that she has to go back and starts like packing a suitcase and her husband is like asleep in the bed. And he like wakes up and is like, what going on like where are you going and she's like oh like a friend from dairy just called like it's a long story but i have to go back and he's like that's like that's okay is everything okay and she's like yeah yeah everything's okay i just i just

need to go back there and he's like i just don't know why you have to lie to me about it because i know i was like they're misleading us yeah they really were and he's like because i heard you talking to a man named mike and like why and she's like yeah he's my friend and he's like basically start like loses it and they have a very violent upsetting fight where he like is like choking her and like jesus pushing her up against a wall by her throat and she like hits like a picture frame over his head and he like punches her oh my god and she i can't remember what the final thing is but she like throws something in his way that lets her get out of the room and she runs out and like leaves the house and as she's leaving takes off

her wedding ring and like leaves it behind wow that's awful and then we get to stanley who was the jewish boy afraid of the painting right he gets the call and he you can see that he's very very afraid and he's like yeah yeah i'll come I'll come, I'll come. But he, like, looks really scared. And then he goes upstairs and goes into the bathtub and slits his wrists. Oh, my God. He kills himself. Holy shit. Yeah. He actually kills himself?

Yep. So he's not in the rest of the movie? He's not in the rest of the movie. Holy shit. It's very sad. Yeah. Whoa. Yep.

I'm shocked I did not see that coming in one little bit. I didn't see it coming either except for that he's not really in the trailers and so I was like oh I forgot that he like has but that I mean it is a really interesting example of the many ways that as an adult you deal with childhood trauma sometimes you just don't

I mean after that experience as a child it totally makes sense that one of them would not be able to deal with it and also like a comment on like repressed memories and how. Just becomes too much. Yeah. That's so sad.

Yeah. It's very sad. This is a sad movie. Is this a drama? Well, it's a drama. It's a comedy. Transcends genre.

Yeah. I mean, this is a bad scene to follow up by saying it's extremely funny but that's not that scene is not funny let's go for it overall overall this movie is very funny okay so after we um see where all the losers are now it cuts to kind of the mouth of the sewer and we're back to 1989 like right after the losers defeated or like got pennywise to go away the first time and like the surge of water coming out of the big sewer and all the children's bodies oh god and out of the bodies comes henry the bully and he's still alive and he's like

like gasping for air because all he did was fall down the well. He fell down the well. Pennywise didn't get him. Yes. And we never saw what happened to him. So he survived. And he goes home. And his house is surrounded by police because he killed his dad.

Killed his dad. Killed his dad. And so he goes to a mental institution for murdering his dad and like talking about pennywise and so it then goes to present day him in the mental institution and he sees the red balloon floating by the window oh i saw that in the trailer it's in the trailer and he's like laughing and he's like aha he's back he's back and he's like going crazy, he's back, he's back. And he's going crazy. And so they lock him in his room, and there's a red balloon under his bed. And he goes to reach for it, pulls it out of the way,

and there's a waterlogged zombie corpse. His friend. It's his friend that died in the first one. And he gives him back his switchblade somehow. Sure. I mean, it's all magic.

There's magic. He still has the switchblade and he gives it back to him. So he's going to kill some... So he kills people to like get out of the mental institution. Yep.

Cool. And they leave and the waterlogged corpse drives the getaway car. I was really laughing at this car. I was really laughing at this part. I was like, what is... Because sometimes it'll cut to reality.

It's like in their heads. Yes, and so I was very... Someone's driving that car. Who's driving it? Is it Pennywise? Can Pennywise drive? Maybe it's Pennywise. Pennywise has learned how to drive. 20 has to take a break in the sewers.

He's learned how to drive. Okay, so then we cut to a Chinese restaurant in which the Losers Club is meeting up for the first time in 27 years. And it's, I don't know, just like a fun scene. They're all just kind of reconnecting. Some good Bill Hader jokes in this scene. Do you think he improv'd any of his lines? Sorry not to dwell on Bill Hader for any extra additional time in this podcast.

I'm sure he did. Bill, come on the pod. We'll talk about this. Once you apologize to us for your direct attack. Yeah. So back to the Chinese restaurant, they start kind of remembering things as they are all together and going over things. Mike is filling in some of the blanks. And then, of course, as they start remembering things, they start getting really scared because they've blocked out all these horrible memories.

And they're starting to be like, well, why do we fucking come back here? Like, I don't want to back here like i don't want to do that i don't want to like god they're they're not like super scared yet but starting to kind of get nervous and they like get their fortune cookies after the meal and someone is like my fortune cookie just says guess and like all of their fortune cookies just have one word in it. And they start like trying to like piece it into something. And it says like, guess couldn't cut it. And they're like, what? Like, what does this mean?

And it like cuts to or like close up on Jessica Chastain. And she's like has like silent tears rolling down her cheeks. And she like sets hers down. And it says Stanley. And so it says stanley and so it says guess stanley couldn't cut it and they're like super freaked out and then all the fortune cookies like burst open into crazy little monsters and one of them is like a like spider bird with a baby head and it's like crawling at him and crying one of them is an

eyeball with like tentacles they're screaming they're freaking out and then the waitress like walks up and is like is everything okay over here and like cut to like reality and like nothing is happening and they're like yeah can we get the check please great comedic timing great comedic timing and then they're like leaving. And this cute kid walks up to Bill Hader and is like, the fun is just beginning. And he's like, goes to him. He's like, fuck you. You like get the fuck away from us. And he's like screaming at this little kid.

And little kid's like, I just meant like your set. Like the fun is just beginning. That's your tagline of your like comedy set. And he's like, oh, like, OK, do you want like a photo or something set and he's like oh like okay do you want like a photo or something and he's like no i'm good man that's great okay i like that part um there is a lot of humor okay so after the dinner they call stanley because they don't quite know what happened they don't know what that means and his wife answers he was married is he was married and she says like oh he just passed yesterday and jessica chastain said in the bathtub and she's

like how did you know that and then ben is like how like asks her later like you said it before she told you like how did you know how ben dies and bev was bev says like i've seen all of us die what because because she saw the deadlights something happened that showed her like what all their lives would be like and basically the influence of pennywise stays with you forever and so it kind of like eat that's what the line in the trailer like eats you all up from the inside so they'll all die before their time of some like thing related to the trauma that happened either suicide or you know an abusive relationship or something like that whoa they go back to their like they're all staying in like the same hotel

they go back start like packing their bags and they're like we're getting the fuck out of here like we don't want to do this um and bev has like a moment with ben where she's like, I'm remembering that Bill wrote me this poem. Again with the poem. Again with the poem. And she's like, I think Bill and I had something special. But really, it was Ben who wrote the poem. And Ben remembers and looks very sad. Oh.

And then Mike is like, Bill, let me show you something. Let me show you why you guys all need to stay and basically drugs him and he's like you need to see what i saw and it's like a peyote type thing or something like ayahuasca and he's like i like had a meeting with the like natives that live just outside dairy who have encountered it like through through generations i know it's like a weird little plot but i guess it's in the book so my mom and me talked last episode about how steven king was coked out yeah it checks out so basically it this is where we get some background on it and what it is and it talks about the history of it it talks about how millions of years ago millions asteroid hit earth so it is an alien essentially and has been resurfacing every 27 years like since then

oh interesting um okay and sure it is basically like its original form i guess is like balls of light and they're called dead lights that's what bev like looked into his mouth in the first one that like hypnotized her okay um and um basically he just takes on different forms and pennywise is his favorite form but it is pretty fun anyway it's great um so mike says that this tribal ritual is basically the only way to kill it and yeah that if they don't kill it it's gonna kill them no matter how far away they get um okay so then we get to my favorite scene which i'm guessing will not be your guys's favorite scene probably not this is a part of the theater where i laughed a lot and nobody else was laughing oh i love this okay so we go back to the little girl from the fair um and she's at like a baseball game with

her mom and uh sees a firefly and kind of follows it underneath the bleachers into like this kind of dark area and we see like a little flash of pennywise down there he like says her name he's like i know your name and that's what your friends call you right and she's like you're not my friend like i don't know you and she starts to walk away and he goes no no no no and she like turns around and is like why are you crying and he's like anytime anyone sees my face they don't want to be my friend anymore just being like super manipulative and she has like a dick she has like a big what a dick she has a big birthmark on her face so you can tell he's that's what he does right he plays into people's like insecurities yeah and so she's like i i get made fun of too for the way I look.

And he's like, oh, for that birthmark on your face? Like, who cares about that? Isn't that so silly? People are so silly. And she's like, yeah, I guess it is kind of silly. He's like, I could just blow that right away if you come a little closer. She's walking closer. walking closer and um he's like okay like i'll blow it away in one two and then he just stops and his like mouth is hanging open drool is just pouring out of his mouth and he's like

dead eye staring at her run away at Run away at this point, girl. Get away. And she's like, you're supposed to say, and he goes Gah! Kills her. Okay. Launches at her eye. Oh my god. Wow. It sounds like a, yeah, definitely a candidate for a favorite scene of the movie, Sammy. Sure. 100%. What I do love about Pennywise

What I do love about him is he's an alien. He's a shapeshifter. It feels like it'd be very easy for him to just consume anyone he wanted. But he likes to have fun. He likes to have a little fun. He likes to make it a game and to see how far he can get.

He's been around for millions of years. He's probably very bored. And I like that about him. Okay, and then another thing I will say Is last That's the craziest damn thing I've ever heard I'm pissed I'm pissed off

I'm not gonna take it anymore Well okay so last episode I know that we kind of Thought that this would be a Pennywise Origin story and it's It's not there's not a lot of Pennywise Oh that's just like a little blip It was cause of that film or the shot from the trailer of Bill Skarsgård

I'll get to that but I was kind of expecting like a ton of penny wise there's not do you think it adds up to 12 minutes of talking or no I honestly don't it felt like maybe even last even though the movie is so long so long but yeah so that's actually

kind of the biggest Pennywise scene. Really? So that's why I love it so much. I wonder how much Bill Skarsgård got paid to be this character. Probably a lot. I mean, he's fantastic. I'd pay him. I'll pay him.

That's how it works, right? Whatever he wants, I'll match it. Crowdfund actor salaries. salaries yeah that's definitely how i'll play i'll pay double no i'm just saying i'm just saying if he has that little screen time and that little yeah but he's the titular he's the titular creature and i'm sure they factor in time spent in fucking like hair and makeup and all of it you know like i bet he was still on set a lot okay so after he devours that tasty, tasty, afraid little girl. Tasty girl.

Then we get to Bill kind of rounding them all back up again. And they go to this clubhouse that Ben built as a little kid. And Mike kind of explains everything to all of them there. And he's like, basically, each of us needs a token of our childhood to burn in this ritual and that will be like what banishes it and they hear like from the dark

corner of the clubhouse like hello oh no would you like to dance with me and like Bill Hader emerges from the darkness and he's like remember guys because he used to like do a little dance and they're all like pissed off but that's pretty funny another great moment from bill hater um but okay so then basically they're all sent off

to find their individual tokens we start with be Bev, who is, yes, goes to her old apartment. And this old woman answers the door. She's'm so sorry to tell you. Like, your father died. Did you not know? And she's like, we haven't been in touch for a long time. And she goes in and the lady's like, oh, let me get you some tea. She's kind of looking around the house. And she goes into, like, I think her old room and pulls a floorboard out and gets the old postcard. She, like, remembers where it is with the poem on it and then they're like sitting there sitting having tea across from each other

and the old woman is just like has this really creepy smile and is like leaving way too long of pauses between sentences so we saw that in a little like teaser trailer and i read a fun fact that that they did know like that it that when she freezes, it's just that actress being a fucking genius. Yeah, that's amazing. And she just would freeze. Oh, that was very smart. She just was not done digitally. She just is awesome.

It's very unsettling. And then Bev's creeped out and looking at photos on the wall. Very unsettling. And then Bev's like creeped out and like looking at photos on the wall. And she's like, you hear the old woman from the other room being like, my father came here with just $14 in his pocket and he joined the circus. And like as Bev is looking at a photo on the wall of like Bill Skarsgård in like an old timey like circus. And she's like, oh, fuck, like that's Pennywise's same face. And it is Pennywise. It's not actually an old timey like circus and she's like oh fuck like that's pennywise's same face and it is pennywise it's not actually an old lady it's pennywise right well it's it i think pennywise is when he's the clown it is the clown right okay but it's it which is preying on probably her fear

of like father-child relationships like that was my dad right so as she's like piecing together that this is it she the old woman like turns giant and naked and is like chasing her through the house has like a troll face and it's like that's great i love that and then she like closes the door and gets into the hallway and then turns and sees bill skarsgård. This is the scene, the shot from the trailer where he's like putting on clown makeup. And the insinuation being that this was a guy that normal, normal guy, a normal guy that it inhabited and then just enjoyed it so much that he's

kind of chosen this as his main form and so then that like he like turns to bev and with his like paint on his face starts like peeling his own face off and that's when he does the like that is very creepy and weird and she runs out of the house wow um then we go to bill can i just say i'm a little disappointed that that's what that scene was from i hope i was too i know more bill scars flashback but we don't no that's what i like was that's my main complaint of this whole movie that's just i guess i mean is that true it must be true to the book too which is just like i mean when steven king wrote it he didn't know we were at bill scars guard and it was going to be someone we want so much more of.

Okay, so then we go to Bill who is walking around town. He sees like a little vintage shop, a little pawn shop or something. And he sees his old bike in the window and he's like, I got to go buy my old bike. What are the chances? And he goes in and the clerk is Stephen King, a little cameo. We're getting a Stephen King cameo. Great. And he's like, sells him the bike, whatever.

He leaves, rides his bike back to his old house. And in the house is the little kid who came up to Bill Hader, Richie, for an autograph or whatever. He now lives in James McAvoy uh bill's old house okay so bill sees the sewer he hears georgie's voice coming from the sewer being like i'm still down here and he reaches his arm into the sewer and all these tiny little baby hands crawl out and start like pulling him in. And he gets away, pushes away. And the like kid that lives in his house now runs out and is like, what's going on? And he's like, don't go in that sewer.

Don't you ever go in that sewer. If you hear any voices from there. I know how much you want to go in the sewer, but don't. He's like, if you ever hear voices from there, like don't follow them. And the little kid's like, I only hear voices from the bathtub. Uh-oh. And he's like, what voices do you hear? And he's like, oh, you know, like, kids' voices being like, join us.

And he's like, don't ever listen to those. And like, whatever. I can't remember how it ends. But that's his little run-in. But OK, so then we get Eddie, who goes back to the, like, pharmacy, because that's where he loves to be. He got all his medication he didn't need as a child. He goes down into like the basement of the pharmacy and has like cuts to like a childhood memory of him down there.

And his mom like chained up and the leper like coming at his mom wait what that's a memory it's a memory so they've all had like other but they're very low stakes memories because they're adults now so you know all these like they're gonna survive because they are alive now right and so then it cuts back to present day and then he like pulls back the curtain and the leper is still there and like lunges at him and he grabs the leper by the throat and is like pinning him against the wall and it's like working but then the leper like vomits the like black tar into like his face and mouth but then it cuts to just call me angel or like playing underneath this scene is this like very funny song just call me of the morning slow motion as he's like getting vomit in his face what song is that is that shaggy

no what song is that but shaggy did it he sampled it he sampled it original version of that original version so there's's an Eddie scene where he's in a bathroom somewhere, maybe at the pharmacy still. And Henry, the bully, adult bully, escaped like mental patient. Henry pops out, stabs him in the side of the face. Oh, my fucking God. He leaves his switchblade in his face. And you can like see the blade like through his, in his mouth. Oh, I don't like that.

Through his cheek. Emily really doesn't like knives. I do not like knives. She doesn't like knives. And he goes into, he goes into the shower, closes the shower curtain. And then Henry's like about to lunge. And then you see like the blade go through the shower curtain. Like Eddie has pulled it out of his own mouth to stab Henry.

And does he? He does. And then he like comes downstairs and Jessica Chastain's there and they're like, oh, what happened? And then they run back up to like try to confront him. And Henry is gone. He's jumped out the window. Fuck. Richie.

Richie is is he goes to this arcade that he went to when he was younger, flashback to him and this like younger boy or same age boy playing like a video game. And the kid's like, oh, like good game, like whatever, like see you later. And he's like, wait, like, do you want to play one more? Like I have another token or whatever, another coin. or whatever, another coin. And then Henry walks in and it's Henry's cousin, the kid he was playing with. And he's like, you trying to fuck my cousin? And Richie runs away all scared. And then it cuts back to present day,

Bill Hader outside of this arcade. And he sees Pennywise sitting on this big Paul Bunyan statue. And Pennywise is like, hi, Richie. Does anyone know your secret yet? Your Pennywise voice is terrifying. I do my best. So then Pennywise like attacks Bill Hader.

And then he kind of has a moment where he like bumps into someone and snaps back to reality and he's like gone again. Then he goes to the like bridge where Ben was like pushed over when he was being bullied as a kid. And he starts carving R plus in the like wood fence, but you don't see what he finishes with.'ll come back to that okay then we go to ben's token searching moment where he goes to well it's a flashback to him in school and bev is there and bev like has a moment where she's like um oh did you like think that i would ever like you like no you're like disgusting. You're fat.

And then her like head like lights on fire. And this is like another like Pennywise moment of him as a kid. And Bev is like with her head on fire, like chasing him down the hall. He runs and hides in his locker. And then Pennywise is in the locker. And then he runs out and then he bumps into a janitor and ends it. And then we cut back to Ben is in the library. That's where his initial run-in was with the headless boy from the Easter Massacre.

And he is getting a page from the old yearbook that only Bev signed. That's going to be his token because he was like the new kid, had no friends. Bev was the only one that was nice to him. He loves Bev. So this is his token of his childhood. As he's like leaving the library, a book like falls off a shelf. He turns around and Henry jumps out and is like pins him down and is like attacking him it has one of those moments where like the knife is like by his face and he's like holding the wrist to like keep it

away and then you like hear like a boom and then you see that Bill Hader Rich Richie, has hit, killed him. He axed him in the head. Holy shit. Where'd he get the ax from? It showed like one shot of an ax in the library earlier. It must have been like a relic of some sort that was like on display in the library. So everyone comes in and is like, oh my God, are you guys okay? Richie's like, no, I'm not fucking okay.

I just fucking killed somebody. I just fucking killed Henry. Oh my God. Henry needed to die, to be fair henry oh my god he needed to die to be fair okay so henry definitely needed to die and henry died what happened to his um corpse log zombie friend he's just been kind of popping up whenever he's like a little guardian angel yeah popping up whenever henry needs a hand he's just like idling in the parking lot waiting for him. But okay, so then Bill sees the little kid that hears voices in the drain was like,

I am going to this carnival or whatever. And he sees basically he follows him to this carnival. The carnival that we were at in the beginning. Okay, yeah. And only Bill goes. And this is the we were at in the beginning okay yeah um and only bill goes and this is the probably scariest scene in the movie this is the funhouse mirror scene that's in the trailer that's in the trailer and so he's like trying to save this little kid and running through these mirrors and he like gets to him but there's a pane of glass between them and so it's basically

james mcavoy a pane of glass the little kid another pane of glass between them. And so it's basically James McAvoy, a pane of glass, the little kid, another pane of glass, and Pennywise. So they're both trying to break through the wall. To get to the kid. To get to the kid. Because James McAvoy's trying to save him. Pennywise is trying to eat him. It's a doggy dog right out there. Oh, my God.

In the trailer, I assumed it was his son. I thought that too. It kind of lowers the stakes I assumed it was his son. I thought that too. It kind of lowers, lowers the stakes that it's not his son. Yeah. But it also like, what kind of idiot

brings his son back to that place where it found these children? So I guess, you know, points to Bill for not being that fucking stupid.

Yeah. So Pennywise breaks through first, obviously. Yeah. And he eats that little boy. He does. He eats the boy. While Bill watches. Oh Yeah. And he eats that little boy. He does?

He eats the boy? While Bill watches. Oh, yeah. And it explodes with blood. It is so much blood. It sprays all over that pane of glass. That's awful. How does he eat him?

Where does he start? You know, it's very quick. And I think it's like all at once. Where does he start with a child? I think he goes right for the head. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, he likes the head chest area. Although he does love arms, too. He loves it all. He loves it all. Loves it all. Sometimes you're in the right for the head. Yeah, he likes the head chest area. Although he does love arms, too.

He loves it all. Sometimes you're in the mood for a head, sometimes a little arm snack. That's not easy to watch, I'd say. James McAvoy's probably not doing too well after this experience. No, so James McAvoy's fucking pissed, and they finally get through to him

on the phone, and he's like, he had a fucking kid in front of me. Like, I'm going to fucking kill him. And Mike is like, no, like, we need to all be together. And then he, like, hangs up. He's like, no, like, I've got, this is my fault. I got to take care of this. And Mike's like, okay, well, we know where it is.

Yeah, seriously. He's like, we know where he's going. If he wants to kill it, there's only one place he can go. The house. The well house. So they go back to the well house. And to me, Fairbill's had probably the most severe trauma of any of them associated with Pennywise. Agreed. I mean, this is the second child now that he's had to feel responsible for.

Okay, so they're all at the well house. We get a scene where we get to see Grown-Up Ben's abs. He walks in I didn't see this coming and starts like screaming in pain and letters are being carved into his chest again but without

anyone doing it and he's like pulling up his shirt real hot body hot businessman body and I think it's carving in home at last and they look in the mirror and they see pennywise doing it in the mirror even though he's not there in person beverly smashes the mirror and then they all start getting separated because pennywise likes to separate them and And Richie and

Eddie get separated into my favorite scary, not scary at all and very scary three-door choice room again. And this time they go straight into very scary because he's like, last time we did not scary at all.

He's fucking with us. They go into very scary. I feel like I would still try not scary at all. He's fucking with us. Yeah. Go into it head on. They go into very scary. I feel like I would still try not scary at all again. I would go scary. I would split the difference. He's trying to trick you. So they go into very scary. It's very scary.

Yeah. There is a, it's the same, like a person cut in half, just legs running at them. They slam the door and they're like, he's not fucking with us. He's not fucking with us. Go into not scary at all. The open not scary at all. Oh, hell yeah. See? I get it. it's a pomeranian puppy staring up at them and they're like they're like what the fuck is going on that's pretty funny he's like okay

is it gonna get scary in a second like is this a joke he's really cute though and then the pomeranian turns into like a big monster and lunges at them and they run away and then we cut to um bev and ben who have been separated together and they kind of each go into their own little like it's messing with their head in a way that bev is back in the bathroom stall that she was bullied in in high school oh yeah and ben is in the clubhouse and the walls start like collapsing and the sand is like or dirt is like filling in on him so he's being like buried alive bev's bathroom stall is like filling up with blood and outside of the bathroom stall is like her bully the like bitchy mean girl her dad the creepy pharmacist

from the first movie like all of them are like out there like banging trying to get in she's getting like drowning in blood and ben is getting buried alive in the dirt and he calls out like beverly like january embers the like words in the poem that he wrote and he's like it's not real january embers like i love you beverly can you hear me and they like slowly come together and they like grab hands and like together it like falls away and they realize that it like wasn't really happening and then i think she has a moment again where she's like oh right like you wrote the poem right oh right duh not bill i'm sorry i keep looking for it to be anybody else and then i think we get bill's scene you lied and i died

that scene from the trailer so he goes back it takes him back into his basement as a kid. And Georgie is down there. And Georgie is like, you weren't sick that day, were you? Like you were just pretending because you didn't want to play with me. And Bill is like, yes, like, I'm sorry. Like, I didn't want to play with you. And's like well you lied and i died and like start screaming at him and then like child bill is also there so it's like grown-up bill child bill and little georgie and again bill has to kill them with the cattle gun i don't know where he got the cattle gun sure it wasn't anywhere previously but he basically same thing is like this isn't real boom boom kill you both been here before yeah i'm wise to your shit not not his first rodeo yeah um and so then they're all rejoined in the well house like deep underground there's this area where it looks like maybe the asteroid hit mike's like this is where the asteroid hit this is where we have to perform the ritual

everyone needs to put in your token into this fire the dead lights are coming from above and they're all holding hands chanting like uh turn light into dark or dark into light or something like that seems it's like pretty stupid like this ritual seems dumb like i don't know what you'll sink too yeah sorry to be fair a lot of it seems pretty corny like the like the like well as long as we're in it together right true anything true but yeah so then they, get the deadlights into this container, and they're like, oh, we got them, it's the end. And then the, like, container blows up into this big red balloon, and they're all running from the big red balloon. And it, like, pops, and you get Pennywise, and he's like, Mike, you didn't tell them what happened when the Native Americans tried this ritual?

Like, they all died. Like, why didn't you tell them that, Mike? Like, because this doesn't fucking work. And Mike's crying and like i'm sorry you guys like i thought it would work like if we all believed it would work and it didn't work ritual didn't work oh no um and so eddie eddie's like freaking out and he spears it through the mouth he does like a convulsing whatever collapses falls down and eddie's like i did it i did it richie richie i killed him i really killed him and like this is the part in the movie where i was like god fucking damn it because you know what's about to happen eddie fucking dies my favorite character gets stabbed through the

as he's leaning over Richie being like, I got it. Pennywise stabs him through the chest and like lifts him up and throws him down. It's very upsetting. I was very, very mad. Eddie dies.

Well, he's not like quite dead yet, but he does die, but he's like in his final breaths and they're kind of carrying him away. They go through this little cavern they're running. And Pennywise at this time is enormous and in like a big spider form. And they're like, he's too big. We can't kill him. He's too big. A big spider. No, I'm not. No, there's no way in hell. So they make him go through these little tunnels where it's like small little openings. So he has to like become a small form and they make him chase them.

And then I think it's another fake out and he gets big again. And then they're like, that's not the only way to make someone feel small. And then they all like start yelling at him. And they're like, you're just a clown. Okay. And they're basically all ganging up and bullying him which is like one of the bullying is the champion one of the big complaints i read about this movie that i definitely agree with where it's like in the end bullying wins and it's like what the fuck

is this message going on so basically they all scream at him gang up screaming at him and he like shrinks to this really small sad little clown wow so even though he's an alien who's millions of years old he also has insecurity maybe that's the message it's like no one is feeling no one is above the even aliens reality of bullying sure sure yeah so then they rip his heart out of his chest what What? That's pretty intense, honestly. Who does that? He's got all these like eight little hands now because he was a spider a second ago. But now they're back to human hands flopping around on his chest.

And he's still alive. And he's like, no, no. And they all like hold his heart in their hands and they smush it all together. And he's like, aliens have the same anatomy as humans interesting it's wild how did this work what hands were strong enough to pull it out of the chest yeah that's my

main question and so then they killed that's it they killed him that was how they fucking did it oh so you just pull his heart out you just pull his heart out oh you're just mean to him and then you pull his heart out you just have to become the bully wait but okay that's first of all all right i don't i'm gonna i'm gonna do a little nitpicking here for one second um if you are an prehistoric alien yeah really your insecurities are the that you're a fucking clown that you've

like actively decided to manifest yourself and i don't think that is how it is in the book i your insecurities are the that you're a fucking clown that you've like actively decided to manifest yourself as and I don't think that is how it is in the book I will say so then does the movie end there no okay so then it goes like a little bit did we find out who it was like R plus was it Stanley okay no so we go to I want to know I only care

about Bill Hader's storyline Bill Hader's storyline is definitely the strongest so then we go to the quarry they all go to the quarry to really be serious to rinse off after this traumatic event and richie starts sobbing so you're like led to believe that it was eddie r plus e and then it does cut to him uh he was carving the e in it it's really sad william cried had they set that up properly throughout the story i never noticed it but i was reading a thing that said if you go back and watch yes that they had that if you re-watch there are a lot of scenes like they're always like the closest and like touching each other and like loving on each

other and just like sweet little wow that's fucking heartbreaking yeah so i yeah oh it was very sad but still a miracle that no one else died out of those kids wait when eddie was like i did it i killed him was it to richie and then he gets he gets stabbed right in front of him god that's so richie is sobbing in the quarry they all are holding him and embracing it's this very sad moment where they're all grieving all the loss and then i think maybe it was before but maybe after there's a part where they go underwater and ben and bev are underwater and ben's like about to go back up and Bev grabs him and he's, she's like, wait a second. And they have a smooch.

We just killed an alien. Time for a smooch. So they have their first kiss and I believe they. Second kiss. They kissed in chapter one. No, she kissed Bill in chapter one. I thought Ben kissed her to wake her up. It was Bill.

That's true. But that was a kiss against her will. Her first kiss that she consented to. Yes, without her knowledge. She initiated this one. Good, good, good, good, good. But okay, so then they all kind of go back to their separate houses. Mike leaves Derry for the first time.

He's moving out of D dairy because now he can finally start his own life he's released and they all kind of have this nice closure and he calls bill and he's like did you get the letter and he opens a letter and he has a letter from stanley who is basically like i knew that i would be too scared and pennywise like feeds on fear and so i killed myself to like give you guys a better shot which is like in the in the moment i was like oh and then afterwards i was like wait what the fuck like are they being like good thing our friend killed himself yeah but it's also like couldn't he just have stayed home like Like, isn't every living person must come together, so therefore he must be dead? I guess.

I don't know. But yeah, so basically the biggest issues that people had with it that I totally agree with are like, it kind of in the end is like pro-bullying and pro-suicide in a really like weird way. Both are useful tools to get what you want. Totally. It's like, what the fuck? Use them rarely, but if you must.

Okay. Yeah. So I don't know. That know that's just yeah the ending is not great stephen king come on this fucking podcast and defend yourself defend yourself um but i will i mean i had a great time as you guys know i thought it was fun film super super fun the ending was not great. There was definitely not enough Pennywise. My biggest wish for this movie was that it was going to be wall to wall. Pennywise. Wall to wall. It was not. It was not.

Wow. Okay. Yeah. So we did it. That's it. That's the movie. A full franchise explained. Emily, will you see it with me?

I might. I might. You don't even ask me. You're like, Emily's not tapped me? I might! You don't even ask me. I might. I might watch it. If you want to go, I would definitely go. Oh, I'm scared, but I might do it. Oh my god, I think it sounds

dumb and bad. Oh my god, just like the Jezebel article said. Dumb and bad! You're right. But America's Sweetheart Bill Hader Is in it If someone could do a super cut of Just the Shots

I'll watch that for sure That'd be great Well then Henley since you definitely won't be seeing it What is going to haunt you from this retelling? Honestly like none of it sounded that Scary to me I sort of agree with you yeah It's not actually that scary Okay because there was a lot of reviews that

were like this is not a scary movie and i was like oh fuck them like people always say that and then they are scary but i was watching it and i was like this isn't it doesn't sound as scary as chapter one no it's not chapter one's much scarier in the beginning is the scariest part yes i think that's mine that would be that's really that's really fucked up when they and i hate i hate anything where someone's getting beat up when they, and I hate, I hate anything where someone's getting beat up and you're actually being forced to watch it. I hate anything like that. So

I'm not as bad with knives, Emily. I think for me it would definitely be more of the But even that knife is, I mean I don't want to see it and the idea of the knife being like through his mouth is freaky, but like that's also kind of like I can't, I don't like like a knife fight situation where of the knife being like through his mouth is freaky but like that's also kind of like I can't I don't like like a knife fight

situation where it's like where's the knife gonna go where's it's like I know and I know where the knife is and I like to keep track of the knife right um you have a control thing about knives I just want to know where it is um where it is where it's going um I think

the hate crime is bad the domestic violence definitely the domestic violence and I fuck that manipulation the way they played it of like him being nice and then like I get like a pain in my stomach about it and I just don't

I don't like that at all what about you Sammy what's going to haunt you? I think what will haunt me is that Bill Hader personally insulted our podcast. Oh, it was so... When I saw my heart sunk into my butt, I was so sad. And I'm devastated. Yeah, it's pretty tough to be Bill Hader's least favorite podcast, but I guess... Let's make that our tagline.

Thank you guys for doing what we can. Bill Hader, be in more horror movies. We love you our tagline we love you bill we love you bill we love you bill and bill both bills okay wow so this was a long one this was a long one a long movie we really had to get into it we wanted to hear all of the juicy bill moments bill bill sammy you fucking killed it i hope that some of our listeners will see it because it's good it's i mean aside from the bad ending but yeah listeners um i'd say this is a less scary than usual movie and if you're feeling brave fucking go for it because it's go for it very funny i laughed so much too much maybe i laughed when other people were not laughing okay that's exciting well my god what a thrill what a thrill and we don't have any guest here with us to put the burden of ending the podcast upon you need to do your catchphrase

all us oh um don't let the bed bugs bite i wasn't thinking about what i was thinking of goodbye oh i will do that i will do that um thank you for listening and goodbye hey scaredy cats and brave people alike this is emily and thanks for listening to another episode of too scary didn't watch hopefully you loved it chapter two as much as i did and might be willing to go see it don't hold me to that though i don't know how much this bravery will last please go ahead and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts you can also leave us a review on itunes so please do that unless you are a Bill hater. Bill, we know you hate us and we are struggling to accept that.

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