Too Scary; Didn't Watch - MEN

Episode Date: May 25, 2022

This week we're recapping the most terrifying title ever set to paper, Alex Garland and A24's new film MEN! Join us, one woman and 10,000 Rory Kinnears as we try to have a nice relaxing weekend away (ha!). Good luck guessing the ending to this one!! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fm Podcast artwork by @EllaTalkinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and today's scary movie was basically made for our podcast and I can't fucking wait to talk about it. Also, hello all three of us. Reunited. It feels good to be reunited.

I'm so happy. I've been thinking about that. I've been like going to bed at night being like, wow. All three of us haven't recorded an episode in so long. It's been like a month. That's probably a record for us. It's definitely absolutely a record. Not the kind of record I want to set. No, let's not make like a month. That's probably a record for us. It's definitely. I think so. It's absolutely a record.

It absolutely is. Not the kind of record I want to set. No. Thank God we're back. Let's not make it a habit. God, we're back. I have so much I need to catch you guys up on. Oh, my God.

Henley, take it away. Oh, I don't know if I need to start. Okay. Well, I. All right. So I have so many things that I could bring up. But I guess the thing that I wanted to talk to you guys about was that I went to the Haim concert. And is it Haim, by the way?

Is that how you're supposed to say it? Haim time. Haim like time. Yep. Because the concert was called Having the Haim of Your Life, I think, or something like that. I think they've been trying to let people know. Like I saw something like that, too. And I was like, OK, they're telling us. They're telling us how to say it.

Mm-hmm. And it's Haim. Is it Haim? Okay. All right. Because I've heard mixed things, that it's also maybe technically Haim, and we've all been saying it wrong. I guess I can't say for sure.

I cannot say for sure, either. What I say is Haim, and I think that, yeah, they've been sprinkling those little clues for us. So I can only go off of clues. Their tour title clues. There's no other way to know. Absolutely no other way to know. Madison Square Garden. When they played at the Hollywood Bowl, my Insta stories were wall-to-wall the Haim concert. It was a true who's who of Hollywood. It really was. Like, anyone I knew, any acquaintance I knew was there. Any famous person I followed

on Instagram was there. It was shocking. Sammy, you were there. Emily, I don't think you were there i was in florida emily was in florida you better believe if i hadn't been in florida i would have been there yeah of course bo burnham was there i mean benny drama was there his boyfriend was doing their little terry terry was doing the photos on stage, God. What I would do to be friends with them. Jesus.

Would you kill a man? I would kill a man. I didn't want to say it out loud, but it's what I was thinking. No, I guess the thing that was scary about it, though, was that I always do this with concerts and I did it again, which is that I always think they start when they say they're going to start. Oh, my God. You got there two hours, like basically two hours early. When do they say it starts?

Give me a frame of reference. I don't go to concerts. OK, so they the doors were at 630. Obviously didn't get there. The opener was supposed to start at 730. Tim and I get there at 8.30. Because we're like, all right. The opener's probably started a little bit.

I would have been like, I'm so late. No. So we get there. The opener hasn't even started. An hour late? Oh, they don't go on until like 9.15. The opener doesn't even start until like 9.15. And this is normal.

I'm not exaggerating. I am bedtime. Tim and I are out in the hallway and I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to do this. Like, this is like this is my this was my birthday present to him. Lol. And I like drag him all the way there. We have his mom like babysitting for Silas at home. We told her we'd be home around like 1030. It's 915 and the opener hasn't even gone on yet. I honestly feel like that's rude. like 10 15 10 15 is when they actually got on stage and i had a great time for the first like

half an hour and then tim and i were like do we need to leave because we needed to relieve his mom too who was like asleep on our couch at home um so we ended up only staying for like half of it which was kind of depressing but also kind of like i was kind of like great like fine to leave a concert early henley i also left early if that makes you feel any better i did not stay for the whole thing because i mean it's also just leaving the hollywood bowl with 18 000 people and calling an uber is such a nightmare. Were you the only one who left or did the whole group leave? The whole group left. And we were very nervous that there was going to be a surprise appearance by Taylor Swift because they're all friends. And it was in L.A. and it just felt the energy was high.

And it just was like, is Taylor going to come on for a little surprise performance and we're going to leave before that? But thank God it didn't happen. Thank God. Did they do their whole like little comedy bits in between the songs? Yeah. That was funny. That was unexpected and funny. And we made friends with two girls who were sitting next to us, one of which just came by herself and the other one whose friend was supposed to come but then didn't show up.

And so the two girls who were sitting next to us were both there alone, basically. And they became friends and they were chatting. I like that. That's cute. That's like me when I went to Universal Studios by myself and made friends with another girl that was there by herself. Forgot about that when you're drinking butterbeer or whatever outside a deaf beer a deaf beer oh god sorry i've um i've just been yammering please someone else someone someone

saved me from myself to me i don't go to concerts because i don't enjoy to but that blows my mind that would i would be shocked to experience that i'll i'll'll say that this isn't what I was going to say for my scary thing that happened to me. But after the Heim concert, I went home and cried. I was very overwhelmed. And just that just reminded me that that was a scary thing. The first time kind of being in a crowd that huge 18 000 people and specifically because so many people i knew were there and we kept running into people it was just super overwhelming oh that's a lot that's a lot and i don't know why i mean i do know why because we've

been in a pandemic for two years and our brains have changed and yeah i just came home and cried and was like oh wow yeah things oh wow things have affected me it feels like sammy that description being in the hollywood bowl when it's sold out and you you've you keep running into people that you know feels like a dream you would have like a bad anxiety dream it was very stressful and also our uber driver on the way home was like really weird and stopped and got gas and like, oh, I don't like his headlights on and was like, oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it was bizarre. You have to get gas before you pick somebody up. Yeah, it was very strange.

It was just a strange experience. And I was like, is the world a crazy, crazy place? And I mean, obviously, yes, it is. But yeah, we're living in chaos. Hard to confront that all at once in one evening really feeling it that night um but the thing I was gonna say is that I am currently so uh not enough people talk about IBS you are correct about that not enough people talk about it affects a lot of people it affects a lot of women. Cut everything I said.

Let's start with that. Let's start with that. No. So I have IBS. And this year, one of my New Year's resolutions was to finally get it under control. Because so much of my life is like, well, I guess I'll just eat and drink anything and always feel very feel very bad which i feel like many people relate to that's how lots of people that's how i live their lives yep um but i was like i'd like to see if i could get some uh cold hard facts about what is and isn't good for me because i might have specific trigger foods and whatnot. So I've been like seeing a

dietician and went to a gastroenterologist and like just getting to the bottom of a health problem is so stressful. I'm so impressed by the amount of work you've put because I am one of those people who's like, well, I think I'll just feel bad 50% of the time and not really deal with it. But you're really doing it it's such an undertaking and it's really especially i mean i'm i'm sure all things are like this but with the gut issues gastrointestinal stuff it feels like they don't they don't know much they don't know and so it's all just kind of guessing games and try this and try that i feel like especially if you have um mental health issues,

they're like, well, it's probably just that. Like, I've always been like, probably it's my depression slash anxiety slash my antidepressants maybe cause that. I'm like, I get what can somebody tell me? Like, it's overwhelming. I don't try to find out also. So have you found out any cold hard facts that you can share yet, Sammy? Have you found out any cold hard facts that you can share yet, Sammy? Not yet. But so right now I'm finishing a course of antibiotics, which is basically wiping all bacteria from my gut. Oh, because another aspect of this is I have something called SIBO, which is small intestine

bacterial overgrowth. Oh, God. Cute little name. Cute name. Like a SIBO. It sounds like you have like a tiny little Pixar fish floating around in your... Chomping all the way with all the little name. Cute name. Like a SIBO. It sounds like you have like a tiny little Pixar fish floating around in your... Chomping all the way with all the little bacteria. The story of SIBO.

So basically, I'm just like wiping out all of the bacteria in my stomach and doing a reset. And then I have to do a low FODMAP diet, which absolutely kill me. I'm really not looking forward to. But one of the things that I haven't been able to do on this medication is drink alcohol. It's the same kind of medication they give to people to not drink because you'll really get sick. Apparently. Yeah. Just immediately vomit. Yeah. Like keeps your body from processing alcohol. So like you just get very sick. Just crazy. Wow. How long has it been? This is day 14.

So it's a two week regimen. And so I'll finish after today. And then right after this, I have to start a medication, which the main reported side effect from it is vivid nightmares okay okay you're returning to the hollywood bowl baby yeah oh my god oh my god bo burnham's just there staring at me unreachable like just out of reach he's like this way sammy and he's turning corners corners so you can't catch it. Follow me, Sammy. So yeah, I guess it's just been not the most fun thing but I'm hoping that something good

comes out of it and I just wanted to give a shout out to all my fellow people with IBS out there because there's a lot of us. Which as we mentioned is a lot. I'm probably one of them but I will never do the work to find out i probably am too that's the other thing is like it's just it's a diagnosis of elimination like there's no test for ibs it's just like oh you don't have crones you don't have celiac you don't have colitis so you

must have this also i do feel like a lot of people I know, again, just anecdotally, like I'm literally going by things people have tweeted that I vaguely know, is that a lot of people are dealing with a lot more digestive issues in the past couple years, or they're being heightened, which is probably the link to stress and anxiety and like less healthy habits or whatever.

But another thing, too, is that when you're younger than, I think, like 50, they like don't pursue a lot of the things like your doctor. Insurance will not cover you doing a lot of the testing or things like colonoscopies and stuff. Can't do it. Can't do it. You have to pay out of pocket. Who could possibly do that? So it's really not it does not incentivize me to try to figure it out because I'm like, what? I'm going to try to just go to a bunch of doctors just to be told, like, sorry, you're not old enough to deal with this or we don't know. Or one of the scariest things of all the American health care system.

I mean, we've talked about it extensively, but truly how I feel about it these days is doctors are useless. how I feel about it these days is doctors are useless. I kind of had that realization also of like, oh, they just like, don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Like ever. They're just guessing. No. Okay.

Of course, in moments of emergency, doctors are saving lives left and right. But like, but if going in with any kind of issue that's not a life-threatening emergency or something that's very easily treatable, doctors are useless. I'm sorry, but they are. I know people say, oh, don't be afraid to advocate for yourself. And I guess I didn't realize until recently that you had to do that. You really have to do that. And you really do because doctors are incredibly spread so thin. Yeah.

And that is definitely linked to the health care system. And their hands are tied in a lot of ways. It's not the doctor's fault. It's the system that they're working in and the fact that they have to do these appointments in 15 minute increments. We love doctors. We love doctors. Don't get us wrong.

I don't want to put negative energy towards doctors out there too much because that's just going to bite me in the ass at the end of the day. But they've had a hard couple years. It's like you go in and you're like, I have X, Y, and Z problems and they're like, I can't help you with that. That's the response

I basically get exclusively. I think nurses are great. Nurses are great. Love nurses. I love nurses I love nurses yeah no it's crazy I went to my doctor remember last year I had heart I still have I have heartburn like far more often than I think is normal and look I

drink coffee every day I drink alcohol a lot I love seltzer I have tomato products all the time I know what I'm doing here but also it still doesn't feel like it sort of came out of nowhere and it doesn't feel normal. And when I went and saw a doctor for it last year, she was like, um, I mean,

no, it's probably not a problem. And I did not advocate for myself because I was like, great, that's all I want to hear. But it has not really gotten better. And I've sort of been like, I should have been... I should have pushed harder, maybe. So maybe I will next time I go to the doctor, which who knows when that will be. But hey, speaking of medicine and the health care system and etc covid has finally entered my

home the enemy closes in um it it it arrived um we had not had any covid joel no covid for this whole dang time and this very week joel tested positive for covid he currently has covid i as far as i know currently do not but i will as i was saying to you guys before we started i don't i don't feel not sick i just don't feel sick and so tbd on if it's covid or if it's it's probably covid's probably COVID, but will it show up in a test? Is it enough to care? I don't know. And so I'm in a fun zone every day where I'm like, I hope I wake up feeling either definitely not sick or definitely sick, but it's still every day is this in between. I'm testing you guys. I got a PCR waiting on the results. We'll see. We'll see. got a pcr waiting on the results i'm you know i we'll see we'll see um so that's and and joel's fine and he's gonna be fine and it's been very mild and i know so very many people who have

right now or have had covid in the past two weeks um it's very much a surge so what straight are we on now what variant is this still omicron like b.2 i think i think we've got b.2 there's another one coming around that's like b.2.1.2 or something like that they just roll off the tongue this b.2.1.2 or whatever it is um that's so far still only like one in five cases so I feel like Joel probably has BA.2 which is more but it is Omicron but it is like the next wave of Omicron oh we say Omicron differently I've heard you can say either way oh what do you say Omicron I say Omicron what did I say you said Omicron oh okay, okay. Well, who knows? I like it. Haym. Haym. Haym. Language is what you make it. So, you know, we'll see. Also, I'll say this.

We went to Florida and we were like, we're going to get COVID in Florida. We're going to Florida. We're going on a plane. They just lifted the mask mandate. We're going to be around crowds. No COVID. None of us got COVID. Nobody got COVID. Come back to LA. We went to dinner at a restaurant outside, mind you. Fairly certain that's where Joel got COVID. Nobody got COVID. Come back to LA. We went to dinner at a restaurant outside, mind you. Fairly certain that's where Joel got COVID. So, just goes to show, it's out there, man. You never know where you're going to get it. You never know.

So, we'll see. I'll keep you posted. But what I was going to talk about before Joel got COVID is that we've been watching a lot of Top Chef. I've never seen Top Chef. I want to get into Top Chef. Oh, Henley, it's fun. We, any sort of like food reality program

is my favorite thing to watch like while we eat dinner casually. So that's like been our go-to dinner program. And so we started at season three because season one felt too long ago, but we wanted to sort of start at the beginning so we started season three and so that came out in 2007 which is a long time ago yeah and as the as we've gone we've we have finished season three officially um and so you know now that we're done

i can look up online all the all the competitors from season three because I don't know who won. And let me tell you what, it's really jarring to have spent hours watching people in the year 2007 and then to look them up now that 15 years have passed and see them immediately aged and it is freaking me the fuck out.

I have, so many times I've gone to look somebody up and like they probably look the same and then they absolutely don't. And they're all like our age in season three. They're like all in their early 30s, late 20s, early 30s to maybe mid 30s

tops. So I'm like, great. These are my peers. Cool. And then I look them up and they're all in their 50s, late 40s and they look so different and it has really terrified me about aging. look i and i know we're gonna age and it's fine i also i'm like don't i feel so i've like i'm really caught up with like not wanting how vain i am and how like not wanting to be because it who cares um but i

do and it is freaking me the fuck out i've been feeling this way too, Emily. It's a constant battle. It's brand new. It's a brand new feeling. I didn't have it for so, so, so long until recently. And the thing is, I'm not even going to say they don't even look... I wouldn't even say they all look bad. They don't. They just look different in a way

that is like when you just look at a picture of someone and then an immediate 15 years later, they just don't look like the version of themselves that I have been getting to know and that's what's freaking me out like joel and i was thinking i was like in 15 years we're not gonna look like ourselves and it's just like so weird i have okay so we were just talking about this with tim's parents because they just went to their 45th college anniversary they both went to they both went to the same college they just went to their like or sorry reunion this weekend i like calling it an anniversary 45th reunion um and they were they were saying the exact same thing they were like it was super fun

but it was weird because everyone's so old they're like we're old now like I mean, they are. They're in their late 60s. That's not... When you see it day to day, you see yourself aging. But yeah, when you all of a sudden just see someone... And we see all your classmates who you haven't seen in like a couple decades maybe, and all of a sudden you look around and you're like, fuck, we're

all old. God damn it. I hear the later reunions are more fun, though, because everyone's kind of dropped the pretense of like oh we're all still trying to impress each other and be cool i bet 45 is way more fun than like 25 tim's mom said that she said that she um did not have to talk to any blowhards which was a relief they both went to princeton so i think there are i want to start calling people blowhards i think there are a lot of blowhards. A lot of blowhards of the prison reunion. I will say one quick note, though.

I will say this. Sorry, spoilers for season three of Top Chef. Finally got to look up Casey Thompson. Shout out to Casey Thompson. She didn't win. What a deep cut we're getting right now. Casey, we know you're listening. Casey, we know you're listening.

You were a fabulous chef.'re getting right now. Casey, we know you're listening. Casey, we know you're listening. You're a fabulous chef. I looked her up. Casey Thompson looks so hot. Oh my God. She looks amazing. Way better than she did when she was 33 or however old she was on Top Chef. Now she's approaching 50. She looks fucking hot. She owns

herself. She's figured out her shit. Her hair looks great. She's gotten it together. she probably has a lot more money than she had when she was on the show because now she's a restaurateur in sonoma um so money will get you places but i just that was the one because i couldn't look her up until the end because she made it all the way to the finale again sorry spoiler didn't warn uh but i looked her up and was like, okay. Okay. There's hope for us all. There's hope. And also, you know what? How we look is just the least interesting thing about us.

It doesn't matter fucking at all. And yet I care so very much. I think it's a good segue into our movie because of the reason we feel like that is because of the patriarchy and because of the messages we've been fed our whole lives about how women must be. Your worth comes from your looks, which is not true. But it's hard to remember that when we've been fed a certain message our whole life. Very hard. But today's movie, which was seems like it was made just for us, because we always say the scariest thing in life is any man, anywhere, anytime. Absolutely. And this week's movie is Men, the new release from writer-director Alex Garland, starring Jesse Buckley, Roy Kinnear, Papa Esiedu and Gail Rankin.

And it's in theaters right now. And boy, oh boy, I have been looking forward to this movie. We've been talking about it, talking about looking forward to it. And I can't wait to tell you guys about it. I am so excited to hear about this movie. I feel like we should acknowledge up top that there have been some bad reviews. Yeah, it's been, it has not landed with a bang i mean can you a horror movie about how men are are bad i would imagine yeah i would get some some bad feedback but well okay

well sammy how did you how did you feel about the movie let's start there i wouldn't say that the takeaway is entirely you know men are men are all bad men are the worst and that's the end of the story i think it's you know a bit more nuanced than that that is that certainly comes across but i think it does it gets into a bit of an explanation of similarly to how you know women have been given this message their whole lives. Men have too from generations and generations of toxic masculinity and be a man, man up, that kind of thing. And so I think it's somewhat empathetic to men as well. We'll talk more about it at the end.

It gets real crazy. I was very interested in a lot of the reviews that I read because they were so divisive. Also, the bar set pretty high because I feel like his other movies have been so unanimously liked and successful. But that, you know. Well, Annihilation wasn't successful. Well, it's because Annihilation was too smart. Remember how it was just too smart for us? But everybody likes it, right?

Like, it didn't get bad reviews, did it? Remember, they didn't do a marketing push for Annihilation because someone at the studio was like... Natalie Portman's character is not sympathetic. They were like, this stuff is dealing... It's going to go over the audience's head. We got to dumb it down. And he didn't dumb it down. And they're like, well, fine. fine we're not gonna promote it then and it's not it's that simply it's so outrageous anyway yeah it has a 70 men has a 76 on rotten tomatoes a 66 on metacritic and a 6.5

on imdb and i couldn't find any budget information for it which i bet there will be eventually because a24 usually releases their budget info from the trailer it looks like it was fairly high budget probably not as high as annihilation definitely not as high as annihilation i think that it was shot during covid so that was like part of it's like a very contained basically all takes place in one area with basically just two actors okay well just fucking throw out what i just said then who knows what the budget is at this i'm like really curious to know the budget so i hope that they do release that information i just know that on the opening day friday it made 1.4 million i don't know what the opening weekend is yet it's sunday right now as of this recording and so i don't know if the

numbers have fully come in but the only reference point i have is that everything everywhere all at once made 2.1 million on its first day so So, which, by the way, Everything Everywhere All at Once just became A24's highest grossing movie of all time. God, it's so good. It's so good. But I don't really have any trivia about this film. And I feel like there's going to be a lot to talk about at the end. Oh, okay, cool. How do you feel about this trailer?

May we watch it? I think we should watch it. I think there's some amount of the ending literally cannot be spoiled. Okay, great. Love that. And I think it's good for us to just see the vibes. Ooh,

and these performances. Yeah, I want to watch it. I want to watch it. Let's watch it. I want to watch it. Okay, okay. Let's watch it. Hello. Hi. Mrs. Marlowe, yes? Harper, yes. Do, come in.

It's a beautiful house. Could it just be you staying? Excuse me? Mrs. Mulder? No. Until you give your love, there's nothing more that we can do. Apple from the garden? Yeah, it was delicious. No, no, no, no.

Mustn't do that. Forbidden fruit. Oh, God, sorry, I... I'm joking. Oh. You're tormented. It feels more like... Haunted. Yeah.

Something happened. My husband went upstairs to our balcony and let himself go. You must wonder why you drove him to it. I didn't drive him to it. I thought it would be true. But if you'd given him the chance to apologize, he'd still be alive. What? A man followed me out of the woods. He was stalking me. What makes you say that? I saw him twice. Twice? He followed me out of the woods. He was stalking me.

What makes you say that? I saw him twice. Twice? I don't know if he saw you, it wouldn't. Want to play a game? You hide, I'll see. You must feel an awful sense awful says guilt stay away from me what are you Oh my god.

That got my heart rate. I know. My heart is beating fast too, isn't it? Oh man, I'm so happy we get to talk about it. I'm so excited. Okay, I will say, I hope, we'll find out, we'll find out. I hope this is one that after hearing about it, I can see it because I really want to see it. I really want to see it. It looks so interesting and creepy. I don't want to see it because i really want to see it i really want to see it it looks so

interesting and creepy and and i don't want to see it i really want to see it but i i have to know what happens i think that actor reminds me of like someone i used to know or reminds me of an amalgamation of other like hit that joke in the beginning that the joke about like oh not eating the apple like oh god that really like got me like it's such a type of guy that you come across that like makes you uncomfortable on purpose and then tells you they're joking it's the worst possible thing. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. There were a lot of moments while watching this where you just feel that like

yeah, basically muscle memory of like all these different kinds of men. Of interactions. Of interactions with men from yeah, like from the micro to the macro is how Rory Kinnear is the actor who

plays all of the men in it okay I was gonna say I was like am I crazy or does that look like the same guy no it's oh it's the same guy right it's Rory Kinnear who's great he's I only ever think of him as he's in the first episode of Black Mirror he's the

prime minister spoiler alert has to fuck he's in the first episode of black mirror he's the prime minister who has to fuck a pig in the end no that was i heard about that episode and that was all i needed to be like well i'll never watch black mirror black mirror is upsetting for sure yeah i also didn't like the appearance of a hard mask there There's yet another hard mask. Don't like those. No, and I think I like it less when it is very colorful is what I realized. Like a really poppy

hard plastic mask. Because it's like trying to pretend like it's fun. It's like, no, we know you're not fun. Yeah, we know you're not fun. Oh my god, yeah, that like chilled me to my bones, that trailer. So, you know, you not fun. Oh my God. Yeah, that like chilled me to my bones, that trailer. So, you know, you'll tell us about the movie. I know people have mixed feelings, but I'll say this.

It is really effective in conveying a certain kind of horror from the trailer alone. So, yeah. Yeah. I'm intrigued. Ooh, let's get into it. Let's get into it. Henley there's probably no kid stuff there were definitely there's definitely kid stuff snuck in there i feel it i feel like there is is there pregnancy stuff wait yes i'll say yes there is pregnancy stuff look at that grin on her face she just remembered she just remembered something in the past few years i

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any slight inaccuracies. I couldn't take notes. So I just am going from memory here. It's very funny to imagine you in a dark movie theater taking notes. I've thought about it. I tried to do it in It Chapter Two. And I was like, this looks so stupid. I can't do this. But okay, we start, we meet our protagonist, who is played by Jessie Buckley. Her name is Harper and it's her in her apartment. The lighting is very red and almost apocalyptic looking. It's hyper slow-mo and her nose is bleeding. She looks shaken up and the door to her balcony is open.

And the door to her balcony is open. She goes and closes it. And as she closes it, a man falls down. The balcony falls in front of her. And she watches him plunge to his death, basically. And they make eye contact super slow-mo again. And we just get that little glimpse. She's screaming.

Horrible. Then we cut to her driving through green pastures, countryside. This takes place in England. And she basically goes to a country home four hours outside of London. So she's having a little escape after a seemingly very traumatic incident. We get shots of the dandelions blowing in the wind. It's all very picturesque. And she arrives. She's smiling.

She sees there's an apple tree in the front of the house and takes an apple off of it, takes a bite. This is looking like a, you know, going to be a weekend or however long of relaxation, getting away from it all. She's happy to be here. to be here uh she knocks on the door of the place that she will be staying and we meet jeffrey is the owner of the house this is rory kaneer all men from here on out will be rory kaneer wow all men aside from the man that fell from the balcony okay literally all men even when she's in the pub yeah i think all of them were him. Holy shit, that's cool. Yeah, that's a good idea. It's very like Charlie Kaufman-esque, I feel like. Yeah. That's being John Malkovich and Anomalisa does something like that.

And I think it's a really smart decision for this movie. I really like it. Certainly helpful with COVID protocol. Yeah, seriously. And Jeffrey, you got a bit of his vibe in the trailer. He's like overly nice and chatty and welcomes her as Mrs. Marlowe. And she says, yes, it's Harper. You can see that it kind of bothers her.

It bothers her a bit. But her name's Harper Marlowe, right? Harper Marlowe. He is calling her. OK, OK. I couldn't tell if she was just calling her completely by the wrong name or not. But maybe the Mrs. is the jarring part. And so he helps.

He says, let me get your bags. Let me get your bags. She says, I got them. He's like, no, no, I'll get them. I'll get them. And goes and gets her bags to bring them in. There are so many good little subtle details in this movie like that. I'm going to call some of them out.

But there were just so many moments that I was like, oh, yep. Had this interaction. Had that interaction. And so they go inside. He starts giving her a tour of the place. It's a big country home. Like large glass windows, bright. And it's a really beautiful place.

It looks beautiful. He's showing her the bedroom and he shows her there's a room with a piano in it. He says, do you play piano? She says no. Then he says, shows her the bathroom and it says sorry i must say to the ladies be careful what you flush septic system and like smiles he's got these huge teeth and like smiles at her sorry had to say it's just like henley looks like are you actually frozen henley i think your screen is frozen, but it's just very.

I think she's frozen, but it's a very appropriate frozen facial expression. And are you back? Okay. I switched. I switched to Internet's. You froze on a very funny face of just being like. Yeah. Like sick of his shit already. It was extremely appropriate.

already like it was very it was extremely appropriate uh so and then he says are you traveling alone or and she says yes and he says mrs marlo no like you made the reservation under mrs marlo and she says oh yeah i haven't changed that yet haven't changed my name yet either and i like i'm not married anymore and he's like oh okay uh sorry about that it's a little awkward would you ever go stay in a home alone oh yeah absolutely but i would never ask someone about miss or missus it's such a weird thing you do an airbnb alone where you had to like meet the host and and they knew you were i've done it i did a whole road trip by myself. That's true. I went all, it was like a 12 day. I've done a hotel alone. I like

doing a solo travel, but just now the idea of like being shown around a home by someone who has the keys, who knows you're alone. Obviously it's a horror movie, but I was like, oh God, oh no, oh no. It's true. I mean, it's a little spooky now that i'm thinking i guess sometimes like airbnbs you don't ever interact with the host but still they do have the keys do you know what i

mean yeah pretty scary yeah i'll have moments of getting freaked out in airbnbs for sure certainly most people don't get murdered otherwise it wouldn't exist but can you imagine it was that commonplace it was like an obvious murder trap. I'm not going to get an Airbnb because I don't want to get murdered. Also in Ubers, I feel like there's a moment in all Uber where it's pretty crazy that I just trust this person to do what he says he's going to do. Oh, my God. I convinced myself that I had allowed you to get murdered one time when I put you in an Uber. And then the next day I was like, well, Sammy's dead.

And I didn't make sure that she isn't and I mean this is the worst thing that could ever happen and I think I called you like five times in a row because I was like I don't care if I wake her up she better be alive so yeah we put our trust into the hands of strangers quite frequently

we do quite frequently and a lot of those strangers are men a lot of them are haven't gotten us yet so then she as he's like getting finishing up the tour of the house they go back into the kitchen area and he sees the half-eaten apple on the counter and says apple from the garden she says yeah it was delicious no no no no mustn't do that forbidden fruit god damn it that accent was very off no it was perfect i really liked it um but yeah there's a lot of good uh good accents

in this just put that in our back pocket and she's like oh god i'm sorry i'm so sorry and he's like i'm joking like it's fine oh i hate it um and he tells her there's a pub close by and he gives her the key to the door and here here we go he says it's like kind of tricky doesn't lock always but you don't really need to lock your doors around here like you're in the middle of nowhere like there's not even really anybody else around here he lives in the cottage like out back or something so he's on he's nearby um and then he leaves her to it and she settles in and starts playing that piano which this was like one of my favorite details of the movie was that he asked her if she could play piano and she says no and then she can and i was like what a perfect little example of ways in which women don't even

like open a door to a possible conversation things like the ways that we protect ourselves yeah knowing anything personal about you that's actually honestly why when you're describing her explaining how she's not married anymore i was like like, Oh, I feel like I would lie in that situation. And probably like most women would, where it would be like, I'm not going to tell you. Oh yeah. He might,

he might be joining me. Although I feel like we're going to learn that he just killed himself, in which case it's probably really tough to talk about. But yeah, I mean, I would lie. I would fully lie. Yeah.

Yeah. And after she plays piano, she calls her video call video chats her friend Riley and she's saying how's it going she says the place is beautiful but the guy asked about um James and Riley said is confused like what do you mean and she says oh well like he saw that my my name was Mrs. and I didn't really tell him anything. I just alluded to the fact that I was not married anymore. And we like the best friends vibe.

Riley seems cool. She's like, you know, I'm glad you're doing this, but I wish you would have let me come with you. Let me know if you want me to drive out there. I'll come there anytime. And she's like, no, I just want some to myself um to clear my head like this is gonna be good for me and as they're talking the phone has some static and we see a flash of what looks like a man's mouth screaming but it's like pixelated in a way that you can't totally tell but it is very effective in being like so creepy like it's like on the phone that's what happens it just pops up does she see it yes and she gets scared by it but it's just fast enough

and pixelated enough that it's like is that a trick of trick of the eye like what the fuck was that and then it just goes back right back to just like normal video call what the fuck and then we get a flashback to her she hangs up the call says bye or whatever and then we get a flashback to her and her husband james it looks like the very same day that we saw earlier the same kind of red lighting in their house and they're having an argument sitting across from each other obviously it's very emotional and heated they look like they've both been crying and it's clear that she is asking for a divorce and saying you know i can't do this anymore and he says he's crying and says if if you divorce me, I'm going to kill myself.

Oh, OK. And she bursts into tears. And it's like, you can't say shit like that. And the fact that you're saying that to me is like the exact reason why we need to get divorced. Like, you can't do you can't fucking do that but it's it's like so horrible to watch this scene of like this man is like also clearly in a lot of pain but it's like the fucking worst thing you could like say to somebody i was like so horrible it's like it's so abusive yes it's so manipulative and cruel and abusive and it's clear that this is somewhat of a pattern

in their relationship because she seems to be familiar with him doing these kind of things to her and is like see this is the exact thing this is what I'm talking about like emotional blackmail basically they're like yeah like holding someone hostage

holding you hostage yeah it's deeply unfair it's awful and then we cut back to her at the country house and she goes on a walk again it's very picturesque we get some like acoustic guitar playing she's trying to clear her head of this it starts raining and she's smiling and feeling raindrops on her face. And it's just going on this nice walk. And she stumbles upon this tunnel, a long tunnel. It's very dark in the middle. And I got so scared of just the imagery of this tunnel that I had a literal thought in my head of like, well, I hope that they checked that there was nobody scary in the tunnel while they were filming it.

Is this tunnel even safe for the crew? Was the crew safe? Yeah. I imagined like a PA. I should have thought about this one scouting. Nobody should be in this tunnel. This is a spooky tunnel. There's a really spooky tunnel.

Have you guys ever noticed the tunnel that's across from echo park lake it's like going more towards it's like a long glendale almost yes that tunnel is spooky there's a really scary tunnel there that a few times i was walking that direction i was like google maps wants me to take this tunnel and i opt out yeah i. I opt out going through this tunnel. Tunnels are very scary. And she starts walking through it and notices the acoustics are kind of cool. Like she can go, ah, and it goes, ah, ah, ah. And she makes a little song with her own voice echoing like ah ah ah ah and it loop

basically the tunnel itself like loops it in the echo and it's really cool that's cool and she's like having fun and it's like a nice moment for her and then we see a man emerge from kind of nowhere at the other end of the tunnel in a way that really freaks her out. Like it looks like he was almost laying down flat on the ground and stands up and you just see his silhouette and he starts coming towards her and she immediately like turns and runs and is just like, fuck this, running the other way. She immediately like turns and runs and is just like, fuck this, running the other way. And she gets lost in the tree in like the foresty wooded area. She gets so scared that she just runs off path, just like through trees up to where she can see a clearing is. And so she's like climbing through like roots and like having to pull herself up because it's really steep. And she's just so scared and thinks this man is right behind her. And so she gets to the top of the clearing and it's looks like a wide open farm area.

And she like breathes a sigh of relief. She gets her bearings and I think can see kind of where she is and how to get back to her place. And doesn't see a man following her anymore and so as she's walking back towards the road she turns back to take a photo of there's an abandoned cottage type place right where she was and she just it's everything is like really beautiful so she just goes to take a photo of it and as she snaps the photo she sees a naked man just standing right outside of the house. She says,

like, can you give me a little tour? And we see through the windows that the naked man is in the yard. And he's just butt naked. He's completely naked. And he's standing. Is he moving? He's walking around now and kind of looking into the windows. But she doesn't see him. And this scene is at nighttime. No, this is still daytime. Oh, God. And the scene is played almost comically. Like he's everywhere.

She's not looking like as soon as she turns he he walks to the other window and uh doesn't see him as she's giving the tour of the house but eventually she does see him and says to riley i gotta call you back she calls the police and says there's a man in my yard a naked man and the police operator is a woman and it's like okay we're sending someone we're sending someone right now just stay on the phone with me describe what's happening she sees that the front door is wide open oh god oh god and runs to close it right as he gets to it so he was like about to walk into the door he closes it she closes it he sticks his hand through the mail slot she's screaming and then the the police arrive and they and they get him and arrest him

yeah and is it this is the same actor it's the same actor this is rory can you are the police the police the same the police there is one female police officer and one and one is Rory Kinnear. Yes. So weird. Yeah. And Rory Kinnear or no, I think it's actually the woman, the female police officer that says to her, yeah, we're taking him in. That must have been really scary for you. But to be honest, like, I think he's just harmless. I think he doesn't know where he is. He seems really confused. I think he doesn't know where he is. He seems really confused. He just seems lost. So I don't I don't think he was actually a danger. But she's understandably super freaked out. I mean, a man who doesn't know who he is, who's willing to like's that confused and in your home, that's a threat. 100%. So she then goes into the town and finds the church and goes into the church. And we see there's a stone pillar with a carving in the front of it. It's like a man's face with a lot of greenery coming out of it. It's almost like a mask of leaves. And the symbol is called the green man. This is like a real symbol. And the camera pulls back. And on the other side of the pillar we see there is a symbol of a woman a kind

of crazed looking woman with like hey like big eyes and hair like going in all directions crouched down and spreading her labia and it's like this very exaggerated vulva carving in the stone. Oh my God. Cool. Sign me up. I want that in my house. And then we go back to she sits down in the pews of the church. Nobody else is in there. It's just, it's empty. And she sits down and we go back to another flashback, picking

up where we left off. Her texting Riley saying, James is really scaring me. It's like same stuff as before, but a little worse. And he walks in and snatches the phone from her and reads it and starts screaming at her. Oh,

you're scared of me. You're scared of me. And this fight just escalates to the point of her scream. Like she screamed something at him. Like nothing, basically nothing you say is gonna make me stay like i want to divorce you and there's nothing you can fucking do about it and he punches her in the face great and really hard and she falls backwards her nose is pouring blood

and she stands up and like loses it and is like get the fuck out get the fuck out right now and is like slapping him pushing him towards the door opens the door shoves him out and he's like i never fucking want to see you again kill yourself if you want i don't fucking care i don't ever want to see you again oh no closes the door and of course we know that he kills himself. He does it right. Right. That's awful. God, that's awful. And we see again him in slow motion falling in front of the balcony in front of her apartment as she watches screaming and cut to her in the church screaming and crying. And like Jesse Buckley is so good in this she's

such a good actress but this is like a very devastating moment and it reminded me of in midsummer there's a scene in which florence pew is screaming crying and it's like in tune with the music and this is doing a similar thing where it's like the the music in the church is the same tone as her screams and i just really like it when movies do that it like makes you really feel it in your bones so and we see now a priest sees her in there but doesn't approach her and back to the flashback we see her going outside to the ground floor out front of her apartment building to find her husband's dead body which is very very mangled it's gnarly he basically lands on half on a wrought iron fence.

Oh my god. She's about to describe it. She's about to describe it in more detail. Oh no. She's just gearing up. She could have just left it at that. She's saying it. Get ready.

His hand is stuck on the fence like ripped through it. His head has a huge gash in it. And his foot is broken off, like at a 90 degree angle, like at the ankle. And his limbs are like in all different directions. It's gnarly. Nope. Disgusting.

Back to present day. We see her walking out of the church and she runs into a little teenage boy in a hard plastic mask. And this is also Rory Kinnear digitally like on this little boy's face. And he asks her if she wants to play hide and seek with him she says no i'm not really in the mood to play a game right she's like nice about it she's like no i'm i'm heading home i'm not really in the mood to play a game and he's like it's just a game like you can play hide and seek with me like come on why why don't you want to play and the priest walks up at that moment and says she's clearly said

she doesn't feel like playing the game andrew or whatever his name is like not today like leave her alone and the little the teenage boy looks annoyed and gets up and starts to walk away and goes stupid bitch but it's kind of like the the priest like presents himself as saving her from that conversation, which is something that happens a few times in this movie where it's like each man is like saving you from the church and says like you seem like you're really troubled and He says she seems haunted and like is there anything you want to talk about like i'm here for you and so they sit down and talk and she tells him, you know, my husband and I

Were getting divorced and he threatened to kill himself if I divorced him, and then he hit me, which he had never done before, and I screamed at him, and I told him to get out of the apartment, and apparently what happened next is that he went to the apartment above us and bust his way in there, went out to their balcony, and might have been trying to crawl down to our balcony and then either fell or jumped i honestly don't know oh shit and the priest really turns it around doesn't he puts his hand on her knee and says you must feel tremendous guilt and the hand on her knee and says, you must feel tremendous guilt. And the hand on the knee, I think this interaction is my least favorite. Yeah.

Because at first she's like, yeah, I do. I do. I do feel tremendous guilt. And you can see her notice the hand on the knee. And obviously you'd prefer maybe a hand on the shoulder from a priest or no hand at all ideally ideally no hand at all but it is just certainly not lower half but it's like lower half i feel like just that is also like what a good encapsulation of like crossing a boundary but it's also like within the realm i don't want to be rude to this priest so yeah within the realm of what's okay he's not doing anything that bad like i'd rather he didn't have his hand there but i'm not gonna ask him to move his hand because then it's a thing then it's a whole thing yep whoa you're making it a thing oh god sorry it's like the like touching the small of your back as as a man moves past you in a crowd. And it's like, I wish you wouldn't do that. But also, if I was like, don't touch me.

Oh, yeah, exactly. God. Then he goes on to say he says something like, how do you think you drove him to it or something like that? Yeah. Yeah. And you can see her now starting to to be a little more rightfully like angry at him being like, no, I don't. And she's like, well, he says, well, did you give him a no i don't and she's like well did he says well did you give him a chance to apologize and she's like what and no i didn't i kicked him out

like he hit me and she's like he's like well you know maybe if you gave him a chance to apologize you must you must have thought like maybe if you gave him a chance to apologize he'd still he could still be alive jesus jesus she's like yeah i've thought about that of course i've thought about that but he hit me and i was angry and i was upset and he says you know men sometimes hit women it's not a nice thing but it's a real thing do you want things to be comfortable or do you want them to be true oh my freaking blood boils whoa and she says fuck off and stands up and walks away yeah great and she goes into the pub where again everybody is rory kaneer in different the the the bartender is rory kaneer all the patrons are rory kaneer and jeffrey is there having a beer and she's obviously like pissed off walking in mad just wanting a drink she goes up to the bartender asks for a drink

and jeffrey's like let me buy it for you she's like no it's okay and he's like no i insist i like and says to the bartender like her money's not good here don't take her money don't take her money and he's like see you don't have money here like it's not gonna work you have to let me pay so she lets him pay well he doesn't let her pay and he asks her how are you settling in and the cop from earlier comes in the rory kaneer cop and is also grabbing a drink and mentions the naked man that they arrested from earlier and this is the first jeffrey's hearing about is like oh my god what like that's um harper i'm so sorry that sounds so scary you should have called me i i would have helped and harper says it's okay like he's arrested

now so it's fine and the cop's like oh no sorry he was arrested but we had to let him go like nothing really to charge him with and she's very upset by this news obviously and she's like but he could charge him he was stalking me like he followed me from the woods i saw him twice and the cop is like you saw him twice like i don't know if he was stalking me like he followed me from the woods. I saw him twice. And the cop is like, you saw him twice. Like, I don't know if he even saw you once. Like he was really out of it. I don't think he was stalking you and just kind of belittling her and making her feel a little crazy. I also read.

I don't know if this is a correct interpretation, but based on hearing that in the trailer, I also interpreted that as like an insult to. Like her look why would someone be stalking you yeah yeah for sure like okay yeah you had a stalker i don't know hon like so you know like that kind of vibe yeah where how like when a man is insulted and wants to offend he's like you're ugly anyway it's like jesus fucking and so she she leaves the bar and heads home and she hears something as she's walking home. And there's a moment where she doesn't know which way to run. And she then just like makes her makes her mind up and like starts running back to her house. And we see again the silhouette of the naked man now walking through the cemetery near her house towards her

and as she gets back home she calls riley again and asks her and like says they let the guy go and because she had told riley i guess earlier about the incident and riley is like okay i'm coming up like i'm coming up uh I'll be there in three hours. And she's like, it's four hours away. She's like, I'm going to do it in three. I'm going to drive really, really fast. Just give me the address. And she starts saying the address.

And when she says the address, the phone again goes to static. And we see the teeth and the, like, screaming thing. And then it goes away. And she's like, okay, sorry, my phone broke up. The address is, and and again the static she can't get it through every time she's trying to say where she is the static comes up and then they just hang up and riley text just text it to me and so she sends her location to riley and the text back in all caps says, I already know where you are. And then another text says, stupid bitch.

What? And she's freaked out and looking around. It's nighttime now. And the outside motion detector lights keep going on and off like there's a bug with the motion detector and so they're kind of going rogue and she sees the policeman in her yard wait i did did anyone call her a stupid bitch besides the teen boy have other men called her a stupid bitch no just the teen boy But we're assuming that this is... Well, I don't know.

I don't know what we're assuming, honestly. We don't know what to think. Okay, fine. So she goes out to the front yard because she sees the policeman and says, what are you doing here? Did something happen? Did you find the guy? What's going on? And as the motion light flickers,

the yard goes dark for a second, a split second, light comes comes back on cop is gone she's like what the fuck is going on i hate it i hate it and she hears some wrestling and turns and looks and one of the bar patrons uh is running straight towards her like screaming oh my god oh my god oh my god and she runs inside closes the door locks it as he's like gets there and bangs on it and then a window crashes in the kitchen she she like runs into the kitchen a window crashes she drops down behind behind the counter grabs a knife and is huddled down there. And we see a stool like being thrown right by her. And she's screaming and can't see what's happening, but feels like someone's right there and starts to dart back to the front door to go out and opens it. And Jeffrey's there. opens it and Jeffrey's there. And Jeffrey is like, what's going on? I heard a noise. Like, I'm like, are you okay? And she calms down a bit and is like, someone just broke in. Someone's here. Someone's in the house and the window broke. And he comes in and looks and bends down

and sees there's a dead or dying crow on the ground like as if it's flown into the window even though very much seems like it was more than that a second ago and he's like oh mrs marlow it's it's a it was a crow how could a crow break a full window i'd be flying full speed head first yeah and harper's like clearly doesn't fully buy that this is like what was happening but also doesn't know how to explain anything else and so she's like i guess it was this crow that flew in and she's like i swear that like something's going on the man was here again some other man was here and another interesting thing is like she's not recognizing that all these men are the same man like it's not played like that's not weird to her yeah i was gonna ask that but it seemed clear that she wasn't no it's like she just all of these seem like

different people to her. And are they meant to very much seem like the same person to us? Like, they're, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, in a way, yes. We don't think it's like a guy dressing up as multiple people, because there's like a teenage boy, so it's like he couldn't do that. Right, but they're not

hiding it like they tried to do with Tilda Swinton and Suspiria. Right, right. So, it's clear that she's really scared and Jeffrey can see that. And he's like, I'll check the yard. I'm going to, I'll stay here. I'll do a perimeter check. We're going to make sure nobody's here. But Jeffrey's also just like this kind of.

He doesn't put us at ease. No. Yeah. And he, as he's about to go out, it's like, he's a little scared too. Cause the lights keep flickering and it's like a stressful situation. And he kind of psychs himself up and he says, I've got the makings of a failed military man and turns back to look at her and says, my dad said that to me when I was seven. And I really that line was like very devastating as well i i liked that line being in there of just these oh that's the messaging he's been getting of like you've got to go out

there and into the danger and protect the woman and so he goes out into the yard and is doing these like very non-threatening things like he calls out like if you're out here that's not gonna sit well with me and he's just super not intimidating and she's watching and looking around scared and the lights flicker again and Jeffrey disappears and disappears, disappears. Literally the same as the same as the cop, just blink of an eye and he's gone. And she turns and sees the naked man again, who somewhere in here we've seen a shot of him cutting into his own forehead, slicing his forehead open and shoving leaves into it and blood like dripping down his face.

So this is the same imagery we saw in the church of this, the green man with the leaves in the face. It's very like also Adam and Eve vibe because he's like this naked man that comes from the forest after she's like eaten this forbidden fruit type of thing. So there's something going on there as well. But she sees him and starts running back to the house. She, he chases her and no, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. Things are about to get really crazy. You me okay so first what he does is he has a handful of dandelion the little floaty things would you call them petals you know what i mean

the fluffs the fluff yeah and like the white the white fluff blows that in her face we see now he has even more leaves in his face than before just like like shoved all in his face. So he's like bloody and cuts and leaves shoved in the cuts. Ew. And blows this dandelion into her face. One of the fluffs goes into her mouth and swallows it and becomes super again, this like slow-mo and something in her changes and it gets a little surreal now. Okay. Okay. Man, Alex Garland is loving.

I don't know. This is starting to remind me of Annihilation a little bit. Yeah, it is. There's a shot earlier also of like a dead deer with a dandelion like falling into its eye hole and it like decomposes. And so there is a bit of that. That also reminded me of annihilation. And so she kind of half dazed runs into the house, closes the door, and he reaches his hand in through the mail slot and reaches up to her.

the mail slot and reaches up to her and she's looking kind of out of it, almost like drugged and reaches to hold his hand. And as she does that, he grips tighter, like grabs her wrist and she snaps too. And she still has the knife or the knife is like on the counter. She grabs the knife. He won't let go of her. And she stabs down into his arm, like right near his elbow stabs completely through his arm. Oh, shit. And he starts pulling his arm back out. But he can't through the mail slot

but the knife is stuck vertically and can't come out so he just pulls his whole arm, slices from elbow out through between his ring and middle fingers completely completely slicing the arm

in half hot dog style. Oh my god. Emily hated all of that he slices his own hot dog style yeah ew hot dog style that's so gross completely apart yeah like a foot yeah like a foot and a half of arm dangling in half. Ew, ew, ew! And we see, and we see, but then he gets out. Then he, like, runs away. Yeah, and then, yeah, we don't see where he goes. But she hears, again, a noise in the kitchen

and goes into the kitchen, and we see the teenage boy in the mask. No, no, no, no. And the crow splayed on the countertop with the mask is on the crow. He's put the mask on the crow splayed on the countertop with the mask is on the crow. He's put the mask on the crow and he's like using his hands to seemingly penetrate the crow or at least like thrust it in a way that it like looks like he's making the crow have sex. Which I imagine like, you know, how when you like have barbies have sex it's like

kind of like that like it's like this like maybe horny little teenage boy being like haha like sex but then we see that his hand is also completely sliced his arm sliced from elbow through hand and he's covered in blood and he turns and looks at her as she walks in she's still got the knife and he says you really hurt me and she's confused and it's like what the fuck is going on and he says you wouldn't play hide and seek with me before but i bet you will now and she holds the knife out to him he's like walking closer to her she's like don't fucking come near me i'll i'll cut you i will and he says i don't i don't think that you will and walks all the way up to her till the blade is pressing his chest and you see her struggling with it like she's

scared but he's also like a 14 year old kid and he she won't do it. And he said, see, I told you you wouldn't do it. Probably should have, though, because it's the last chance you're going to get. Oh, my God. And she is able to close herself in a separate room. So they're on separate sides of a door now. And he starts counting to 10. He's like, I'll give you to 10.

Like time to go find a hiding spot. Oh, my God. And she goes into the bathroom. And here's like as she's going in, we see one of the bar patrons also running through the house. She's screaming and runs into the bathroom, closes the door, but there's no lock. But the screaming stops on the other side. It's quiet for a moment. She's backing into the bathroom and then the door slowly opens and the priest comes in.

Ew. And his arm also cut. It's all fucked. Elbow to elbow. Hot dog style. Elbow to hand and he comes in and starts washing his hands washing his fucked up nasty hand we get a lot of good close-ups of it it look almost looks like chicken talons the way that it's like splayed in that way i can't believe how

many times we have to see this goddamn hot dog arm my god a few i thought once was enough also i think she had some the ordinary skincare products on this uh on this countertop i like to see that and he turns and looks at her after he washes his hand and says when did you lose your virginity oh god and she says what and he says i can't stop thinking about it ever since ever since i saw you i can't stop picturing it like you having sex losing your virginity with your open mouth and your vagina and you put those thoughts in my head you put you did that to me you put those thoughts in my head and he's walking closer and closer to her and he says all of your openings you're slit which i think slit is like the grossest word I could ever imagine.

Wait, Sammy's actually like having a heart attack. The fact that she even said it, I can see it in her eyes. I hated it. Oh my God, I hated it. Oh, that's terrible. And he's kind of reciting a little bit of Bible verse to her also in this talk. Oh man. Oh man. in this talk and um oh man can there just be like a good priest in one tv or film ever no they're all bad priest that's true hot priest redeems them all as he gets really up close to her

we don't like where this is going it's clear his energy is like this you temptress you wicked woman who has tempted me from the ways of the cloth and she has her knife still and presses it into him or like presses it towards him like get the fuck away from me and he's like yes that's what that's what it is your slit is like like the tip of a blade. It's a weapon. You're a weapon and you're dangerous and he puts

either side of his fucking cut in half hand around like one half of his hand on each of her shoulders. No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. No.

That's not what happens. Sammy, tell us. No. No. What really happens. No, he doesn't do that. He doesn't do that. Doesn't even bother with his good hand.

Just the fucked up hand. One on his shoulder. Talon. Pushing her back. I don't like that it can spread that far apart. I don't like that. And it's still dexterous. He has still full control over all of the fingers.

And is gripping her and pushing her back. Pushes her up onto the counter. We're headed into a rape territory situation. He starts pulling up her dress and she like briefly goes like kind of limp and almost in shock and it's just doesn't know what to do and then stabs him remembers that she has that knife she stabs him right in the stomach uh and throws him off runs out to her car, starts driving away. And as she's driving, she hits Jeffrey.

And she is like, oh, fuck, Jeffrey. Oh, no, oh, no. Stops the car. No, no, no, no, no, no. Starts to get out. We're like, no, no, no, no. No, no, don't go back for Jeffrey. And he, as she's like running to him to help him.

She sees that he also has the obviously cut up hand, this marker of. It's the same same thing. He is also a man. so a man and so she starts running to her car when she sees that and he gets up and walk like chases after her gets to her before she's able to drive away grabs her by the hair pulls her out of the car throws her on the ground and gets in the car and starts driving off he gets in the car and like leaves her out of that's what we think and she's kind of confused and doesn't know what to do now because she can't drive away now her car is gone and she doesn't want to go gets in the car and like leaves her out of the car? That's what we think and she's kind of confused and doesn't know what to do now because she can't drive away. Now her car is gone and she doesn't want to go back in the house and doesn't

want to but like before she can figure it out he starts driving he like does a U-turn and starts driving at her full speed and basically chases her with the car while she's on foot and she's running as fast as she fucking can from

this car it's like these narrow little alleyways where there's nowhere for her to turn off so she's just running and running and running and eventually the only place for her to go is back into the house because that's the only like opening and he crashes the car like full speed into a brick i think mailbox or something as she gets into the house and she falls or trips and falls and is looking back in the direction of the the crashed car and the green man crawls out the the naked man with the leaves in him yeah crawls out out of the car and as he's walking towards her his ankle snaps at a 90 degree angle and he falls to the ground and is kind of crawling towards her and she's crawling away and something starts happening to him like he gets this like look on his face and his body is like shaking in this way and he becomes like fully pregnant huge pregnant whoa okay okay we

get the pregnancy flower starting she's now watching in horror and shock and what the fuck is this? And he starts screaming. And I'm pretty sure gives birth out of his asshole. Oh, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. OK. Close up look. Full frame of the head crowning and. Oh, my God.

Out of his ass. Out of his ass. Out of his asshole. Okay. And out comes the teenage boy. Oh, my God. Okay. And teenage boy is now crawling towards her again with all the same injuries and like crying in pain. And before he can say anything, same like shuddering thing happens.

and before he can say anything he's same like shuddering thing happens he starts growing a pregnant belly and he starts giving birth the same way and so it's like these empty sacks along the way this little birth chain that starts happening and the teenage boy gives birth to the priest and the priest is crawling towards her each variation of this she's like getting closer to the house as she's crawling away from it it's like towards the house and the priest

shudders gets his pregnant belly what happens to them after they give birth they're just like skin suits it's like a like they're just like skin suits it's like a like oh they're just like dead dead skin suits like too deep flopping around like a snake shedding its skin type of thing okay okay got it got it got it and the priest curls over forwards and on his back a hole opens up and he gives birth through his back

and all of this is like real gnarly body horror like you're hearing bones popping and it's just like very very uh you're it's not shying away from showing any of you're seeing all of this and the priest gives birth to jeffrey and jeff and she now grabs an axe there's like a fireplace inside with an axe and she's uh got the axe and jeffrey starts saying something to her i can't remember what but she's like trying to figure out, like, what are you? What the fuck is going on? And Jeffrey then gets his pregnant belly and starts shuddering and out from his mouth. Feet start coming out of his mouth like a foot first. And he's like splitting open while feet are coming out of his mouth. And it's finally james her husband and we see that the injuries are all james's injuries his hand was like sliced that way by the wrought iron fence and his ankle was broken that way right

and he is covered in blood and naked and sits down on the couch. And she says, what do you want? What do you want from me? And he says, I just wanted your love and title men. Oh my God. And then one more little scene right after title. We see the next morning riley arriving she's figured out

where harper was staying and she pulls up and witnesses all of the wreckage like as if this is all this is all real this has all happened she sees all the blood trail leading through the door like where the birth chain was i don't i don't think that the bodies are still there but it's like something has fucking she's like scared like what the fuck happened here windows broken there's blood and she sees harper sitting outside and we get a full body shot and we see that riley is pregnant riley riley yeah the friend and as harper sees her she smiles and then that's the end uh what what the fuck i know it's it's a really um it gets really surreal in a way that i wasn't expecting, but I really like it.

And it's definitely one that I will be thinking about for a while because I feel like it has a lot of little layers in there. This is like what some of the negative reviews were saying that it's kind of saying too much and not enough at the same time. Yeah. Like it doesn't actually fully realize any of the things that it was trying to say, but I kind of appreciate the abstractness of it and that it just bad man is a product of a bad man that came before him and all these men that she interacts with are different versions or different stages of men like we got the teenage boy that's like starting to have uh hormone like hormones and like going through puberty and and then the priest it's like all these different versions of it, but all kind of coming from somewhere, you know, like the way men are is a product of. It's not innate. Yeah.

Yeah, it's and I liked seeing the pregnant woman at the end and having her smile because it kind of felt almost like a little bit of hope of like, well, maybe it's, you know, nurture, not nature. And we can. Obviously, there are good men. As someone who has a little boy, I agree that it's more and more clear how this system is outside of ourselves. And it's something that affects men just as much as it affects women in a lot of ways. And how little tiny baby boys are just they just want to be good and they just want to be loved. You know what i mean it just and so it's really like it's really i think i think what the movie needed more of maybe but maybe it would have been too on the nose but more of um the jeffrey saying what his dad said to him like more right of that a little bit and also for this being a movie about a woman um who is experiencing the negative effects of the patriarchy we don't actually find out that much about her so that's too bad you know what i mean i kind of wish the story

had been a little bit more about her too do you know what i mean yes kind of wish the story had been a little bit more about her too do you know what i mean yes but in a way it's also like this can be any woman i think this is just what it is to yeah be a woman yeah almost like she is just a reflection of what all these different men feel about her yes the cop thinks she's a little stupid uh the priest thinks she's temptress uh jeffrey like doesn't know how to interact around her and like it you know like uh some nervous protector because he feels emasculated right and because she her she doesn't have her husband and so she's like yeah she's just like a prism for all of these men's experience of women yeah that's a really good point too lord have mercy lord. Lord have mercy. I'm

not going to see this. I know. I was going to say, I don't think, I think it's, it gets real deep into some body horror at the end. So that could be tough for you guys. Yeah, no, I ain't going to do that. Yeah, that was intense. I'm like processing it still. The birth. Wow. That really came out of left field i know i gotta say it was not expected i mean that's what i mean it's like there's some amount that just cannot be spoiled no absolutely not wow yeah it's it's really a fascinating movie and i can see i am not surprised that there are negative reviews for it as well. But I just kind of liked it.

I liked the surrealness and like, oh, I just get to like, it's like a Rorschach painting at some points where it's like you get to decide what it means to you. Like it gave me more of a feeling than a message. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I appreciate that. It gave me a feeling even just hearing about it yeah it's intense oh and like oh i forgot to mention oh there's like all these like so in the no i don't like you don't have to say it whatever you're about to say you don't say it this is the moment on when she's talking to the priest and he has his hand on her knee there's a moment in the conversation where he like

moves his pinky back and forth like he's like rubbing her with just the pinky and it's just like so i hate it so small but it's just all these little things that like become big things but they all affect you they all affect you yeah it wasn't a fun movie to watch i'll say that there were a lot of times especially i'd say it actually got more fun at the end when it's just like getting into some craziness yeah but there are a lot of times in the middle where i was just like oh i like feel really bad watching this, I just don't like to be reminded of these things. Oh, sorry.

It's just that final line is like, I just wanted you to love me. It's like bringing that back to being her fault and how like at the end of the day, it's like, what is it? Is it so bad? Like,

Oh, it must be so hard to be a woman because you're wanted and you're loved and you're taken care of and people carry your bags. And it's like, oh, how could that? But that's like the crushing nature of like, that's what I have to offer the world. And so I actually feel like I don't have any freedom or voice or like agency because all these men are. Oh, my God. men are oh my god and like the fact that the weight of that her moments of decency of like not wanting to kill the kid and going back to check on jeffrey are these moments that come back and bite her in the ass and it's like women this like nurturing tendency in women

can be like your downfall and there's there a lot, obviously, you know, a whole civilization's worth of gender politics. Like there's so much to be dissected in this film. And the tendency of women to be nurturing is less in innate. Women are nurturers and more societally determined. I'm really tired. that really tired I know I know and that final line of I just wanted you to love me is also reminded me of like

we're just saying with Silas and little kids like everyone has a little kid inside that like just wants to be loved and like that can be a totally fine thing or like a really dangerous thing depending on everything what messages you've received growing up i know i'm tired too

i'm worn out i know it's good it's like that really got me in a way i didn't anticipate i'm excited to read more about it after this i know it really did it's one of those one one It's like that really got me in a way I didn't anticipate. I'm excited to read more about it after this. I know it really did. It's one of those one one of those movies that will have me thinking for a while reading. I want to know everything about Green Man, about that other the inscription of the woman holding her vagina open. Her name. She's a real thing too and i guess scholars don't know really her origin it's it's uh sheila nagig is what she is called and there's

debate on if she is a symbol of fertility or if she is a uh warning against lust or if it's uh i guess it's common most found in ireland in like irish churches and i guess some irish women and uh like feminist movements were reclaiming that image as a uh symbol of embracing sexuality and yeah there's just a lot of fun fun um maybe fun's not the right word but interesting details in this film that just made me want to learn more wow wow wow oh my god and i really do feel you know henley you have a sweet baby boy my sister has a son i really do feel like it's like i think it's so important to have good boys yeah like i really and to and to like raise boys to be able to be who they are and like and to be nurturers too we got his first baby doll he's got a little baby doll that I'm teaching him how to love and take care of.

Yeah, because all that stuff, you know, it's all historically reserved for women, right? Yeah, we don't give baby boys baby dolls. Yeah, no, but give boys baby dolls. Of course. Okay, I literally don't, I don't know what to say i'm shell shocked i don't know i'm shell shocked by these men giving birth like it ain't no thing i'm shell shocked by the fact that sammy didn't try to do jeffrey's accent again i know well give me a give me a second i feel like yeah let's close it out with a fun british accent forget all the rest of it ever

happened yeah forget all the rest it was just a dream it accent. Forget all the rest of it ever happened. Yeah, forget all the rest. It was just a dream. It was just accents. Apple from the garden. Apple from the garden. He has like such big teeth it sounds like he's like talking about he's talking over his prosthetic teeth. Yeah, mustn't do that. No, see it's getting into Irish. Hold on. Apple from the garden.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Mustn't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Phebidin fruit. Mustn't do that no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no forbidden fruit mustn't do that no god damn it it's fine from all of us here at too scary didn't watch goodbye you know it's it's a soft irish goodbye goodbye Goodbye. Goodbye. Thank you, my friends, for listening to another episode of Too Scary Didn't Watch. If you had fun hanging with us, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. We're also on Twitter and Instagram at TSDW Podcast.

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