Too Scary; Didn't Watch - MIDSOMMAR

Episode Date: August 14, 2019

Murder-suicides, skin suits and human sacrifices - we're pencil diving straight into the deep end! In our very first episode, we're talking about the wild and wonderful Midsommar. Brave-person Sammy describes the film in full detail to scaredy-cats Emily and Henley. Buckle up. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

this is emily henley and sammy and you're listening to too scary didn't watch should we do it yeah let's do it um okay Hey! Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, a podcast for those of you who really want to know what happened in scary movies, are fascinated by it, but too scared to watch, but you want to be able to talk about it with your friends. I'm Emily. I'm too scared to watch scary movies. That's why we're doing this podcast. movies um that's why we're doing this podcast i'm henley i'm also too scared to watch movies i'm guilty of going down deep wikipedia holes trying to figure out exactly what happened i want to know all the details play by play i want every single second of that movie in my brain without having to watch any of it yeah i mean i'm so deeply curious but i refuse to see it no i can't see it i can't see it absolutely not so that's where sammy comes in um i'm like not the bravest person but okay i'm sammy and i'm this week's scary movie watcher.

But normally I don't actually, I don't love all scary movies. But this week's movie's Midsommar, which I've seen twice now. And controversially, I don't think it's scary. But we have to establish what scary means. Because I don't like jump scary movies. So movies like The Conjuring and that shit, that does scare me. And any ghost movie, I'm like certain that there are ghosts in my house when I go home. Okay. So it's jump.

You consider like Haunting of Hill House scary, even though it's not actually. Yes. But I did watch that and enjoy it. Okay. Okay. So you're like a. I'd say I'm 75% on board with scary movies. Okay.

Okay. Okay. like a i'd say i'm 75 on board with scary movies okay okay okay we should also acknowledge our silent participant jenna who is here and not speaking but she also watches scary movies she's here for emotional support yeah she's just she's part of it she's gonna just feel her presence she's gonna be here every single time not talking every single time but we literally can't do it without her we can't do it can't do it without her. We can't do it without her. She's the rock of the group. You know what takes the edge off scary movies? Alcohol. That's why each week we'll be choosing a cocktail to pair with whatever scary movie we're talking about that week. This week's cocktail is a grapefruit mimosa. I know we haven't gotten into Midsommar

yet, but there's a scene in the movie where everyone's drinking orange juice and one of the characters, Christian, unbeknownst to him, his orange juice is spiked with just a little bit of period blood, giving it the pinkish appearance of a grapefruit mimosa. So that was the inspiration behind this drink. To make a grapefruit mimosa, combine champagne and grapefruit juice in any ratio that you like. Pretty easy. So yeah, just kick back with your grapefruit mimosa and enjoy the episode. Cheers.

I will say for me, scary, I mean, I'm scared, I'm a huge wuss, I'm scared of like literally any kind of scary movie. But for me, it's like the images that will stick with me like sometimes I'll even be reading I'll like read a wikipedia page or like an article for spoilers and that will scare me because I'll start to picture it so like that you say Midsommar's not scary it's like disturbing that counts as scary yeah yeah yeah oh that definitely counts as scary for Yes. I think that I can't watch it because the filmmaking is too intense for me. It's like the editing, the score, the sound. I have to stand up. I literally, even just thinking about it right now, I'm still at it. I can't do it.

What's the scariest movie you've seen henley to you scary the scariest movie i've seen is texas chainsaw massacre i was a freshman in high school and i had this cool senior friend and i really wanted her to think i was cool and so we were getting ready to go out one night. She was like, let's watch Texas Genesaw Massacre, like just for fun, just as girls. And I was like, cool. Okay. And I regret it to this day. It was the worst day of my life. It was not worth it. It was just so gross, like viscerally disgusting. I can't handle it. That was a scary one. probably the scariest movie i've watched is um the shining which is really scary i actually it's a good movie i do like it but it while

watching it i i watched it during the daytime full like morning like or like early and stood for most of the movie because it was too intense i do the covering i do the plugging the ears and covering the eyes in a movie theater i've yeah it's block all my senses it's yeah it's like create they it's good filmmaking i get but they like build set like i can't i have to move and be upright there's definitely a lot of tension in midsummer there's a lot of okay yeah should we get. Should we just get into Midsommar? I think we should. I don't know why you invited us.

That's why you look so guilty right now, because you know. We only do this every 90 years. We only do this every 90 years. I was most excited for you to come. Hey, we're recording. That was Jenna! That was Jenna! Okay, great.

So we're going to talk about the movie Midsommar. Sammy, give us a little rundown about what this movie is. Okay, this is the second feature from Ari Aster, written and directed by Ari Aster, starring Florence Pugh and Jack Raynor. Ooh, by the way, this is a side note, but I just saw on Twitter that she's dating Zach Braff. What? Florence Pugh, and he's so much older than her.

And I don't care for her. She's always paired with much older, well, except for in this movie, but in other things she was paired with Alexander Skarsgård and Chris Pine and she's always the like, and she's 23. Yeah, she's very young. Yeah. She's so young. She looks young. She has like a young baby face.

Yeah. So that's even weirder that she's always paired with older men. That's very interesting. So that's, I don't know, I mean, that's just a fact that I just learned. Okay, good for you, Florence Pugh. Good for you. Date who you want. Good for you, Zach Braff. Yeah. We'll be right.

Yeah, so, okay. I'm just going to get into it and talk about the plot. Yeah, we want to know. Set the scene for us. Okay, it gets, like, pretty straight into tension. It starts with her her so her character's name is danny and her boyfriend is christian and their relationship you can tell is like at that point where it's over but neither of them want to like say it and um he's trying to work up the nerve to break up with her and then she has a big family tragedy which

is the first like disturbing part in the movie i'd say and maybe the most um wait are they like in school are they in college they're college they're in college okay thesis that's a thesis yeah they're doing their thesis they're doing their thesis okay um other grad school and okay so her sister uh kills her parents and herself by taping the exhaust pipe of a car and like funneling it into her parents room and then taping hers to her mouth oh my god and it's really fucked up how does that even i don't know but she has like i don't know i should i should get details right that's the whole thing yeah one of her eyes is like what do you call like it has like a milky from like vomiting and she has like like pouring out of the like duct tape part i'd say it's tied for first for the most disturbing part of the movie.

And that's right off the bat. That's the first thing that happened. So she duct tapes it into her mouth. Yeah. Does it ever say why? She's like bipolar. It says she's bipolar and she's just had a big fight with her parents. And she had sent Danny a message saying, I can't anymore.

I'm going or something. Mom and dad are coming too. And she's like freaked out and talking to her shitty boyfriend, Christian, who's like, she always does this shit. Like you let her mess you around like this. Like she's just being, he sucks. Yeah. And so she is like turning to him for emotional support and he's just a can't he's just the worst and um yeah so basically that happens and then he's like well now i can't break up with her

and so he invites her to go to sweden with him and his friends and wait can you can i just ask one more question yeah yeah okay so when she put the exhaust into the parents room do you see the parents die there i think or is it just they're all dead and she's like vomiting and that yeah and you just know

it's just like a visual got it okay yeah you don't see it happening it's just like it's done yeah

police finding them wow that is truly not okay yeah okay I can't I can't believe that's just the opening yeah

but it is I think one of the one of the worst parts okay tied for first i can't wait to hear about number two um okay so then the christian invites danny to sweden with him and his like group of also like shitty friends and they all just kind of suck um they get there and first thing they do is mushrooms in this field and he does a very good job of um illustrating

a mushroom trip if anyone's ever done mushrooms he does a great job i he did an ama he has said that he has done mushrooms and that's why he did such a good job ariester i mean um what was good about it like it felt very they just captured the group dynamics of being on psychedelics quite well like the will polter character one of christian's friends is like uh he's like i'm gonna lie down everybody else lie down too and then like a new person walks up and one of them's like no no no no new people no new people little things like that why did they go to sweden um okay yeah i guess that's important so there's a swedish friend who is from like a small little commune and grew up there and one of their anthropology students and one of them is doing their thesis on midsummer traditions the william jackson harper character can't remember his name josh um cheating from the good place and he's in it he's great um and

so he's doing his thesis on this he's doing his thesis on like various midsummer traditions okay across europe midsommar midsommar yes he says you can pronounce it needs omar needs omar nailed it um so yeah so the the swedish friend's name's pel or pele but he's taking them there to yeah experience his like home communes midsummer tradition festival thing and um yeah they get there they do mushrooms and one of the things that one of Christian's friends says while tripping is, you guys are like my family, like my real family. And the word family triggers her into having a panic attack and she starts having a bad trip. And walks away and goes into a bathroom and it's dark. And then when she looks into the mirror, she sees her sister with the duck on her face. And then like blinks and it's dark and then when she like looks into the mirror she sees her like sister with the duck on her face and then like blinks and it's gone but that's like i feel like one of the only

it's not like a jump scare but it's a spooky part spooky um yeah so then she like kind of freaks out and and passes out i think and then wakes up the day. Another thing is that it's light all the time. And so it doesn't, while they're tripping, it's 9 p.m., but it's, like, totally bright outside because it doesn't get dark. There's only a couple hours of darkness in the middle of the night. Yeah, okay, so the next day they get settled into, like, the main place, welcomed to the main commune and meet everyone and get settled in, and they all sleep in this big, like together put their stuff down whatever and they're like

tomorrow's the first big day of the ceremony wait so everyone in the commune sleeps in the same room well all people ages up to age 36 sleep in the same room and I guess they think of life in four seasons and it's up to age 18 and 36 and whatever 36 plus 18 is. And then to 74. 54. Yeah. And 72. And then you're dead.

And then he says, what happens at 72? Oh, okay. And yeah. She's good at math. He makes the dead gesture. Universal symbol for dead. Universal gesture for dead. All right, Jill is straight on a podcast. Hand across the neck. Hand symbol for dead. Universal gesture for dead. Artill is straight on a podcast.

Hand across the neck. Hand across the neck. Cutting the head off. But, yeah, and it's like, you think he's joking, but the next scene, which is the other one tied for the most disturbing scene, is basically these two old people come and have like their essentially last supper and you kind of know what's you kind of get the hints of what's about to happen it's this very like ceremonial supper where they're all toasting to them it's all very quiet and respectful and they look like somber um and yeah basically they march after eating their meal march on over to this enormous

cliff and uh yes you see where it's going pretty early on while watching it too like i wasn't shocked because it's like you're watching a car crash happy you like know what's about to happen so that's another thing i hate about scary movies i don't like that feeling yeah it's very tense and stressful this is where i started plugging my ears for sure okay um they they jump off the cliff one at a time it's very intense and it shows it in very graphic scene oh yeah they like show her face smashing on the rock as she falls it's a woman and an old man so it's just two i guess 72 year old people in their community and it's their time to go um and oh and then the second one is so much worse the old man like

pencil dives off the cliff which is not a not a good way to do it that's so awful like pencils are big into a pool like that's like a joke from the simpsons that's so bad and so he doesn't die yeah no my friend and he smushes his legs and it shows the legs being all twisted and hooked up. Oh, God. And they're, like, screaming. By the way, like, the whole time, like, everyone's, like, all the non-Swedish people are, like, freaking out.

Dani mostly because she's just been through this trauma and it's obviously very triggering for her. Yeah. Wait, how are they freaking out? Are they, like, trying to stop it? Well, okay, so there's also i forgot to introduce there's a british couple that's also there with them that um pele's brother brought he's like this is my friends that i brought along and they're the ones doing most

of the freaking out they're like this is fucked up like they're jumping like what's going on he's still alive like help him and they're all like you hear the like swedish elders or whatever being like it's part of the ceremony like it's all okay and they're like um yeah they're like screaming and freaking out and just being like help him like what's going on what the fuck is going on like and he says they're still alive and a guy with like a big like wooden hammer thing is like wiggles his hammer to be like don't worry like oh my there's a contingency plan and walks over and smashes his head shows that also real close up and then it's i think maybe his family or something because the then they they like take turns kind of doing it like younger, younger woman also smashes his head.

Oh, my God. And it shows. Oh! It's, like, pulpy. Oh, I wish you hadn't used the word pulpy. Oh, my God. Wait, so the guy, all right, so the guy who's jumped and his body's been smashed, is he, like, down to have his head smashed at that point?

I think it's all pre-agreed. No. I know it's pre-agreed no no i know it's i know it's pre-agreed upon but like in the moment yeah no he seems he was just screaming in pain i don't think i think he was just in pain and they're and they're like yeah putting him out of his misery okay this is just their tradition and so yeah then the british couple is like freaking out trying to run away and the elder well i don't know what you would call them but she's like um you know this is our tradition we do that we've been doing this for many many years and um yeah

this is something that she says like brings brings brought them joy and it will bring me joy when it's my time too and yeah so they're like obviously very disturbed. But they stay. Do they talk about leaving? So the British couple does. So her boyfriend Christian is like being like, I'm trying to keep an open mind here. Like, yeah, I'm disturbed, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. And then he decides.

My God, that kind of guy. Yeah, he's the fucking worst. And then he decides after that that he's also going to do his thesis on Midsommar Tradition. And he says, I'd be willing to collaborate with you. And so the Josh character is, like, very mad very mad obviously because he's stealing his thunder yeah this guy christian sucks yeah are there any redeeming qualities about christian no no none at all if you're a new parent a bad day means you either ran out of coffee diapers patients or all of the above Stocking up on cold brew and

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rocks in a way that we wasn't actually there's weird like i don't think i would laugh watching it but our theater was laughing oh that's fascinating both times maybe not at this specifically the head smashing right right but afterwards there's there they like say i'm sorry i didn't warn you better about that there's like little lines that are like little white outfits like yeah yeah like the contrast of those two things yeah so then um the British couple's trying to leave and um Danny runs into the girl and then when a guy comes up and he's like oh just so you know like your boyfriend already left and we took him to the train station and he said he'll

meet you there and she's like what like he wouldn't do that and it's like very clear that they've done something with him they've killed him already or taken him somewhere so she's freaking out the the British girl and then she disappears and they're like where did where did she go danny's like where did i can't remember her name but um they're like where did she go and like this guy chimes in and he's like he's like i have an answer like she i drove her to the train station to like meet her boyfriend i have an answer like i happen to know where she went and it's just like so clear that they're all just like murdering them and covering covering it up like cover stories then what's this character's name mark he's um will poulter's character

basically he pees on a ceremonial tree or wherever they have all their like ashes of their elders and um and one of the guys is like screaming at him like you idiot like that you're peeing on all of our ancestors and um and he's like trying to like hook up with all the Swedish women like he's just kind of a douchebag and then one of the Swedish women like that he's been making eyes with comes over and is like um I am like come with me like I have something to show you and he's all excited about it oh and he goes off with her and then um Josh the Josh character is like getting more info for his thesis he's like going and speaking to the finding out what there's where their scripture comes from and he asks if he can take a photo and the guy's like no like

definitely not like this is our sacred text and it doesn't leave this area or whatever um wait take a photo of what the like scripture book oh okay sorry i think i stopped paying attention for one second i missed that they're like bible yeah okay um and so they say no and he also while this is happening christian is like making eyes with this like young redhead girl maya and they like she like kicks him as she's like doing a dance and they're like looking at each other and that sensual kick like a little foot tap a little butt tap um and yeah back to josh josh is so he goes into bed with his like shoes on and is like planning to go in the middle of the night well he's gonna gotta keep your shoes on he's like he's gonna go run into their little like church thing essentially um to take photos while everyone's sleeping what a true

anthropologist yes he's gonna sneak sneak some photos break trust right away yeah oh yeah um and why does he want photos so bad i mean just for his project yeah i guess i guess so okay it's not gonna it's not because he for what's about to happen to him. It's almost like he forgot about all the people who've been murdered. Yeah. A lot of people just forget about it. It's not really, like, I don't think anyone's freaking out quite at the level they should be. Okay, so this just side note, generally, about scary movies.

Another reason why I find them so scary is when people are really scared. So I don't like watching people be very, very scared. Yeah. And so in a movie like this, where you're saying that maybe some people are freaking out, but the majority are kind of chill. They're mostly clueless. They just, like, are kind of dumb.

Except, I mean, Dani's not, but they're all just kind of, like, hoping for the best. That would automatically make it less scary for me because I'm not as freaked out if they're not freaked out I know what you mean empathy you have high empathy oh is that what it is? I think so because I'm the same way where anytime anyone's crying

I cry so it's just you're emulating whatever. Whatever feeling. Feeling what you're seeing other people feel. Yeah, so he's sneaking in and taking a photo of their Bible, essentially. And someone comes in. You, like, see someone come in, and he sees the reflection, and he's like mark like what are you

doing in here and it's one of the swedish men wearing mark's skin what what and he hits him over the head and like he makes this really horrible noise the uh josh character is like moaning in this very disturbing way and the guy's just watching him die with his Mark skin jacket. Yeah, so when you say he's wearing his skin. It's like as if you're wearing like a mask. I think it might just be his face that he's wearing. It's hard to tell. There's like.

But it looks like he thought it was Mark. He thought it was Mark. He thought it was Mark. Has Mark's hair still, I think? I can't remember. He thought it was Mark. He thought it was Mark. Has Mark's hair still, I think?

I can't remember. So, but it's clear when you see it that this is a face taken off. Yes. Someone else wearing someone else's face. I can't even really imagine what that would look like, to be completely honest. It's pretty gross. I won't look it up. It's a good example of why I didn't see this movie. Yeah.

So, like, the inside of his face. Was on the other guy's face. Is on the outside of this other guy's face. That's pretty gross. That is disgusting. Do you think he poked, like, nose holes, like, to breathe? Yeah, is it, like, eye holes out? Are there any ventilated at all?

Is it someone else's skin? I don't like thinking about this that hard. I never thought about it that hard. But so we don't see Mark get murdered. We just know that he is dead. We took his face. We just saw his skin later on. Yeah. Jesus. Which kind of get murdered. We just know that he is dead. We took his face. We just saw his skin later on. Yeah. Jesus. Which kind of

clued us into the fact that he's probably dead. Probably dead. And so the next morning they like announced that their Bible was stolen. I guess to maybe make it to cover it. See like he left and took it.

So that it seems like he stole it rather than they murdered him. Sure. Um, and Christian, cause he's a little shit was like, he like, he's like, just so you know,

like we're not even that good, good of friends with him. Like if he stole it, like we'd be so embarrassed to be associated with him when they're like, clearly like best friends. Like he's just so quick to throw Josh under the bus and not like concerned at all. He's just like, don't associate with me with him when they're like clearly like best friends like he's just so quick to throw josh under the bus and not like concerned at all he's just like don't associate with me with him like we're not even that good of friends wow christian sucks christian really sucks just to reinforce

that yeah let's just be clear about that let's just circle back to the fact that christian truly sucks and um so this girl maya has like put a little love token thing under his bed she's like essentially trying to do all their like little things to make him fall in love with her they have all these little like things that they do a meeting call meeting dance yeah and pele at one point says like oh she's just been approved to start having sex with people like she's like young and but they like have babies early but it's all very like group like there's a baby there that they're like oh the mom is gone but we it's out there our baby it's like a community baby okay um what is Florence Pugh's character what does Dani think of Josh leaving is she chill with it does she question it um i think she's

confused but not like as much as she should be same like she's not freaking out she also knows he's like a douchebag so she's sort of like well maybe he did steal it yeah yeah yeah so then their big like celebration is the the may queen festival or dance or whatever you call it basically all the women dance and the last person standing at the end of the dance is crown the may queen that's their tradition that they do each year they crown a may queen um and so danny's like whisked away to be with the women and christian is brought into the elders thing for a talk. And this is where like the distance between them really grows. Oh, this is a breakup movie.

He wrote, Ari Aster wrote it while he was going through a breakup. Oh my God. How must it feel to be the person who he is broken up with? Watching this movie. Good for him. But for him, good.

But I, everything I've heard so far, I'm like, you, he's bad. Do you think that he thought that his girlfriend was Christian? Who is his girlfriend? Can we talk to her? I don't know.

I'm curious. He said that no one is like a direct representation of his girlfriend, that it was more just to capture the emotions. The feeling. And he wanted it to feel very catastrophic and, like, the end of the world and, like, all those people, that person and all their friends, like, essentially died to you. Right.

Well, and that, like, the rest of the world is, like, still going on and happy and sunny and, like, they don't know what you're... Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, at this point,

who's left in the original group? It's just Danny and Christian. Oh, damn. What about Pele or whatever? Pele is, like... But he's a... He's part of the group. He's part of them.

Got it, got it, got it. Okay, so it's just Danny and Christian who are now the, like, visitors who are still there. Yeah. Okay. And they're separated now. And basically the woman who's kind of in charge is speaking to Christian. And she says, you know know you've been approved to essentially mate with maya like you've been approved the red-haired girl yes like you've

been approved for having her mating yeah they like they discuss who gets to there's a part when he's doing the like anthropology research where he's like because your community is so small do you ever like is their incest a problem and they like say like oh we like to bring in like new blood when we can and so that's like what's happening is that they're trying to mix up their gene pool yes with his little spermy guys yes wow wow okay um how does he feel about this approval well one of the big things is next both of them essentially take acid. Right before the May Queen dance, they're given like a drink that has special properties is what they describe it as. And they both kind of, this is where it kind of branches into a drug trip slash like, what the fuck's going on? And they're both kind of losing their grasp on reality a bit. so it's less that they're having like actual like thoughts about what's happening and more just kind of reacting to it yeah okay um so danny's doing the may queen dance and she wins she becomes the may queen and they all like take her in and

they're like you're one of us now like you're part of the family while christian is like starting to have a bad trip and he's the act jack rayner does such a good job of like making does the actor yeah the actor he's like looks so pathetic and sad and scared it's just like his acting is very everyone all the actors in it are really good. But that part where I was just like, damn, he's doing a good job of looking like a sad, scared little man having a bad trip. So she's kind of whisked away to bless their crops and do all these May Queen traditions. And there's a part where she asks, can Christian come with me? And they say, because she can like see that it's like he's not doing well. And they say, no, the May Queen has to do it alone. And so there's like a shot of their like real like separation.

And he's getting smaller and scared and shaky. And she's being like lifted and crowned. And like everything's coming up, Dannyy and everything's bad for christian um and he's taken to a room where things get real crazy from here on out sure they've been mild okay yeah yeah let's get into it let's get into it um so they he basically goes into a room maya's naked on a bed of flowers like ready for sex surrounded by like 10 other naked women who are like holding hands and swaying and like ceremonially like going to be naked and present for all of the sex not participating but present present okay this is one of the funnier scenes in the movie

as they start having sex he's tripping at this part he's like what the fuck is going on his his eyes like he doesn't blink at all he looks so scared and so confused and he's having sex yeah that's they give him they give him like a thing they give him like Viagra or something they say for your vitality anyway he breathes in the smoke yeah I don't know I see yeah and are we getting full frontal

here not yet but we will be oh hell yeah and I'm watching it I'm watching this movie all the inside of my eyes all in my mind so okay so maya starts moaning during the sex and they're all kind of echoing her moaning but she makes specific eye contact with one of the naked women that's in the room and that woman leans down to hold hands with her and sings in her ear while they're having sex and christian is just like so wide-eyed like what the fuck is going on oh my god and they're all

kind of uh uh they're like sing moaning all like group sex else is having the sex, but they're all like moaning. Engaged. Yes. And part of I think this whole communes thing is they're like they share emotions, they share babies, they share feelings, so it's all this kind of group

family. Yeah. Everything's connected. Yeah, they're all connected. And so then after blessing the crops danny hears this like moaning and is like what's going on over there and they're like i don't think you should go over there like don't go in there and she goes and looks through a little keyhole and sees what's happening and like freaks out throws up and is like scream crying and all the women like whisk her away to their little shared bedroom and as she's like screaming and crying and sobbing they're all screaming and crying and sobbing with her because it's this joined and now she's part of that part of it part of it. They feel her. They feel her feelings.

And it's actually quite beautiful. My mom said, I saw this with my mom, by the way. This is very family friendly. My mom said she was so moved by this scene that she thought if she started crying, she would not be able to stop. So she had to withhold. It's actually done very beautifully. Just this shared grief. he's very good i feel like ari aster all his movies have like grief trauma like this very real raw portrayal of just trauma and grief and this was like a very intense moment of just this shared

grief and then christian finishes having sex and the girl's like i can feel the baby oh my god and he's like freaking out runs out here's where we get the full frontal great oh my god we get running full frontal that's wild he's like freaking out trying to figure out where to go he ends up going into a barn this is the other part i don't like it's spooky or this was the other part that scared me okay in the barn the the british guy from the couple in the beginning oh my god yeah it's like essentially flayed i don't know how else to describe it he's so up he is strung up in the barn oh my god his lungs are out of his body but still breathing and there are chickens eating out of him. Oh my god!

It's so intense and gross. Wait, so he was still alive after his skin got taken off? That's a different guy. The British, this is like the couple that went missing in the beginning. Wait, wait, who's skin was on? That was another friend. It was one of the friends from college. Oh, I was confused

about that. Okay. Oh my god. That's and he's uh remind you just on acid freaking out just had sex with this young woman so he's still the intent the idea is he's still alive ish i mean i don't know he's not like no way conscious no way it's real gross god and um nope no no nothing yeah that part i absolutely not i don't like that part and then uh a guy sneaks up on christian and blows some stuff in his face and he passes out and then he wakes up and one of the swedish women is like, Christian, like, you can't move and you can't speak. Okay?

Like, great. It's like he's essentially just like paralyzed. Oh, my God. The dust. The dust paralyzed him. And he can't move and he can't speak. And they, in their final ceremony, they do nine human sacrifices, and they have eight already, and traditionally the ninth is chosen by the May Queen, who is Dany. So the eight other ones they have.

They do this every year. This part is only the, they say we only do this every 90 years. Everything else they do every year. Eight sacrifices a year. The ninth is special. No. All the human sacrifices are special. Oh, all of it. But, like, the May Queen dance, and I think maybe the old people jumping is something they always do. Every time they are 72? Yeah, okay. But this, like, nine human sacrificing is something they only do every 90 years. Oh, okay. That's good. Oh, yeah. Every 90 years okay i can get on board fully so they carry in their eight

sacrifices which are the british couple so two there oh they are they have them all still they have all the bodies still oh the bodies they've died died already they've died okay except for maybe questionably the guy with the lungs guy breathing no no no no the two old people that jumped off the cliff in the beginning they bring those bodies back well they burn them so they bring like little um models of bodies yeah like something to represent them yes okay okay them and then the two other friends josh and mark the skinned one and the one that was hit oh yeah they bring in a skin. No! It's pretty gross. And then they have two volunteers from the community. Sure.

Because this is all their tradition and very honorable and brings them all joy. Brings them all joy. And so they're like, the ninth one will either be this other volunteer from our community or Christian. And it's up to Dani. It's up to Dani. Yes. She has to decide. The Mazing decide chooses who's the ninth sacrifice and um she chooses Christian it doesn't show her choosing him it's a very intense shot of her kind of like crying like this is literally the like moment of death of their relationship. Like, it's her cutting them out.

It's over. It's done. And so it doesn't show her saying Christian or anything, but then it cuts to they have a bear, dead bear. Side note, they have a dead bear. It, like, cuts to a scene of them, like, removing organs out of a dead bear. And the guy's like pay attention kids like you don't want to cut nick the intestines like you know when you're taking the intestines out of a bear there's a proper way to do it and they stuff christian into the bear's body wait

alive christian yes alive but paralyzed oh just like terrified and can't move and can't speak it's real fucked up and they sew him into this bear costume what and put him in the well not a costume a real bear sorry it's not a costume a bear's empty corpse so they sew they sew him into an empty bear corpse yeah oh and then they put him in the room that they're gonna light up like this sacrificial barn on fire with everyone inside of it and they to the two volunteers they like go and give that they say take from the you and feel no pain and feel no fears they give they like drug them up oh they haven't died yet they haven't died yet they're going to be live burned alive but they but they take drugs that maybe make it less yes painful and horrible for them yes and um And so, and then they say to the bear, the bear is the symbol for their, like, you know, you're all the evil.

Like, we put our evil into you or, like, anything bad that we've done. Like, you're the sacrifice that's, like, going to clear us of our impurities. Like, you're the bad person that's getting burned alive in a second. And then they light it on fire. And one of the two volunteers starts, like, screaming in pain. Oh, my God. It did not work. And all of the community also starts screaming because they have their shared feelings.

And so it's just this, like, crazy commotion sceneotion scene of everyone like screaming and crying and throwing their bodies. Is Dani doing it too? Dani's like eye contact with Christian. Like crying. She's also in like an insane costume at this point of like flower. She's in this like crazy flower gown that's enormous and worth looking up if you i will definitely yeah that part i want to see that gown um and yeah so she's like crying and freaking out and also still on drugs mind you like they're all like on acid essentially and um

so everyone's screaming and crying and she like is, is dry heaving and then, like, looking at everyone screaming and crying and all the shared pain happening and all the grieving and, like, looks back at the thing that's burning and slowly starts to smile. Oh my god. I gave myself chills. Oh my god. From the beginning, she was going through this grief that nobody understood. Right, it was invisible. And now it's like she's in this group of people

who will share it all. Oh my god. And Christian was such a dick to her from the beginning. And so it's, yeah, her just cutting her life. And movie,'s, yeah, her just cutting her life. Wow. And movie, Danny's smiling, Danny belongs, Danny has a new family.

Danny's gonna be okay. Wow! That's moving. So it's ultimately a success story. It's a success story. Yes. I mean, it sounds very good. It's very good. I loved it. I've seen it twice very good. It's very good. I loved it.

I've seen it twice. Okay, man. Henley, would you see it? No. No. There's no way I would see it. Okay, here's the scenario in which I would watch this movie. Daytime.

It's on HBO or Netflix or something. And I'm folding laundry or doing another chore around my house, and I can mute it or fast forward as needed. Yeah. That's the only scenario in which I've watched this movie. Yeah, I feel like I just watched it, truly, and I didn't have to see any of the stuff. Like, I love hearing about it. It sounds like such a good movie. I can't imagine watching any of those things take place.

Well, that's what this podcast is for. Oh, my God. Wait. I also, like, just circling back to being a breakup movie, I just, like, what is this guy like in his day-to-day? Like, what is his brain like? Christian? No. No.

Ari Aster. How do you well he's also the director of Hereditary which I assume you guys have also not seen not seen but I did force you to tell me everything but I wanted I don't even know I started looking up um a Wikipedia page about it and I got too scared and I had a nightmare about the thing I read on the Wikipedia page so I really can't I really can't see that one. Yeah. But I do want to know about it.

When you've seen, I mean, yeah, you can just tell Ari Aster, he's, he's got some things that he's sorting through on screen. And he's young too, right?

Like he's young. Got a lot, a lot more movies to come. Has he done anything before Hereditary? Hereditary was his debut. But has he worked on stuff? He's done like shorts, I think.

Oh, shorts. That was his first feature length um but yeah i am a big fan predatory was massive as well so it's very impressive that he's produced there i will say very different i was they're they're very different but they deal with a similar thing yes which is grief and trauma yes yes but i think that's a perfect thing for horror to address i love a like like a baba duke baba duke is my favorite i love baba duke baba duke changed my life i hear i need to see it but i don't know it's so good but i just like to think of it all

as just like as one big metaphor i'll try not to think too hard about the reality of what's happening in it and baba duke is like literally the personification of the stages of grief. And so at first it's like denial and they're like not acknowledging that the Babadook is there. And she's like, no, you're imagining it to her son. And like, it's getting stronger because they're denying that it exists. And so it's all just a big, big metaphor for grief. And wow. Yeah. I eat that shit up. All right. Well this is our first time doing this

podcast so we don't know how to wrap it up um i wish silent jenna we're still here jenna is has left us for the day um i guess this movie sounded very scary thank you so much so much there are certain movies that I'm too scared to watch that I would be interested. I don't necessarily want to do this one, but Pet Sematary was a movie I was too scared to see. So, you know, one day I won't be the person talking about the

scary movie. If you've seen Pet Sematary and want to come sit on my couch and talk to us about it, hey, let me know. Well, that's it. That's it for this one. Have a good week or month or however long it takes us to do more of these. Goodbye. Bye.

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