Too Scary; Didn't Watch - NIGHT OF THE CREEPS with Todd Schlosser

Episode Date: March 16, 2022

Exploding skulls, slugs on leashes and fraternity row, we're recapping the 1986 classic NIGHT OF THE CREEPS! Horror Virgin host Todd Schlosser is the perfect person to take us through this nonsensical, yet weirdly emotional film (do we cry? maybe a little).Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PmPuYg6nqMYou can rent Night of the Creeps on Amazon Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them, and I tell you all about them so you can be in the know without having to get too scared. But before we get into this week's movie, did anything scary happen to us this week?

So many things. So many scary things, Henley. I mean, motherhood, I feel like everything is scary. Well, first of all, I just took... Actually, yes. Actually, yes. I just took a sip of cold brew and my heart is about to rip out of my chest cavity. Oh, boy. So that's how I feel right now.

I know that feeling. But I have been, I guess the scary thing is that my child is sick again. Not in any kind of serious way. So it's not legit scary, but just like scary in the sense that he's not sleeping. Yeah. And the realization that I have had about all of this is that he is not a good sleeper. We are not sleeping, whatever. The had about all of this is that he is not a good sleeper. We are not sleeping. Whatever. The thing about talking about the thing about talking about this is it's like telling someone

like a trying to describe your dream to them or be complaining about having allergies or like the common cold. Yeah. People like I don't fucking care. Like you don't get out of anything for this. You know what I mean? Like you're like, I'm not sleeping because of my kid. And everyone's like, you chose that.

That's your choice. It's a big deal though. Who is telling you that? Because that's really rude. Sleep is so important. Okay. Here's the thing. No one would verbalize that.

But you have to admit it's what everyone's thinking. Like no one cares. Like before I had kids, my co-workers were like uh my kid is sick i would be like i literally don't care you know what i mean i think it is i think unless you are a parent or you have like a very very dear friend who's a parent it is one of those things it's hard to like actually understand what that means like like to actually understand and i i only barely do because i don't have a kid but like to see in someone you love the like i'm really not sleeping i'm not sleeping like i never get

a full night's sleep for like months on end i'm like oh the world should stop for that for you like that is actually insane i feel like i can't, I, whenever I try to complain, whenever I try to complain to you guys about anything in my life, I'm like, oh, I'm not, like, I didn't sleep very well last night, or like, oh, my cats are being annoying. I'm like, don't tell Henley that, like, her life is a million, like, your shit doesn't fucking matter.

That's how I feel compared to your life. That is simply not true. Also, here's the thing, is that at least in my experience, for the first few months the hormones are just raging so you are like awake adrenaline is pumping you're not sleeping who cares it's we're eight months in now and the hormones are gone the adrenaline's gone it's just i'm like back to working tired back to working full-time Tim's like working full time. And we're just like, oh, no. Oh, no. It sounds it sounds really hard. Okay. So it's scary.

So very scary. The one other really quick thing I just want to say, and I need to think through this better. But I also so it's daylight savings time. We're recording this after daylight savings time. Yes. And so we spring ahead, right? So we gained an hour while we slept. No, we lost an hour. I don't know. It confuses me literally every single time. I'm like, I have no idea. Is this daylight savings starting or ending?

That's the one I can't remember. Here's the thing that's scary to me. Starting. Starting. Here's the thing that's scary to me. Starting. Starting. Here's the thing that's scary to me. Starting. Okay, great. What's scaring you, Hen?

Sorry. Is that I don't know. How do we not know? Still. How are all three of us so confused? Happens twice a year for our whole lives. I was trying to like reason with myself last night right before bed. I was like, all right, so Silas is going to wake up early.

No, he's going to wake up late. He's going to wake up early. No, he's going to wake up late. What time is it? Didn't we pass a law that this isn't supposed to happen anymore? I thought so too. But I guess not. I'm writing a letter to my elected official right after this.

That'll solve it. That always works. I love how much that works. Yep. Anyway, those are my scary things is that I feel like there's something broken in my brain and I'm just so tired. And that's it. What about you guys? I mean, I got nothing compared to that, but I will.

I'm going to give it. I'll just give a few little updates. I'm just going to give you a few updates. Okay. I have moved to give it. I'll just give a few little updates. I'm just going to give you a few updates. Okay. I have moved in with my boyfriend. It's been about a little over a month now. So we're like, we're getting in the groove. People wanted to know about how the cats are doing.

Give the people what they want, Emily. I'm going to give people what they want. I'm going to give people what they want. The cats are doing great, you guys. I can't give people what they want. The cats are doing great, you guys. I can't believe it. They are. They are. They are great.

And you know, who's the shining star? Mabel. Mabel. Mabel. Fuck yeah. Hell yeah. She's been so good. I'm so proud of her.

I cried the other day looking at her in the living room with the other cats, just like sitting like an angel. And I like started tearing up. And Joel was like like are you crying I just am really proud I'm really proud of everyone I'm really proud of everyone the one thing they're not fully incorporated

but we're at the stage where for a few hours a day Mabel gets to leave her area and hang out with everybody in the living room wherever she wants to be and we'll do it for like an hour at a time a couple times a day. And they're doing great. They'll like she spends a little time pacing and every time she

walks past one of them makes eye contact like she'll do a little hiss. They'll do a little hiss and they're like okay. And then they're totally fine. Except every time it pretty much whenever we call it it ends with out of nowhere Mabel will just like go to attack the boy Theo who's like

the only one who wants to be her friend and I think that's why he like is so interested in her because he's like a little sweet kitten boy and she's like what did I fucking tell you like every time she's like no but it makes him look so like sad and scared and he like runs and hides

from her and I'm like worried she's gonna become a little bully I don bully. I don't know. I don't know. So we're going to but also sometimes I feel like we just got to let them do that. They just got to figure it out. She's not actually like attacking him. She's just like intimidating him. So we'll see. But

I think we're approaching a day. I could see it. I could see the day where I don't have to orchestrate like who's in what room at what time and I'm really looking forward to it but they're doing great I'm really I can't believe it so proud of so proud of all four of our cats

and then just some other fun stuff about living with someone I first of all like we don't need to really go into this but like men hate Lists like what is that What is it about lists that like Freak men out

Like we like like men are programmed to think A list means like homework or Like like and I'm talking like like And this is a recommendation by my therapist shout out to my Therapist who I love was I was like how do you Figure out groceries Like how do you figure out what you're eating when you live with someone i like didn't understand how she was like you could put a list on the fridge like put a little notepad on the fridge i was like oh my god that's fucking genius so i put up a thing on the fridge and started like

listing things out and joel walked in he just like looks at he didn't say anything he's like he's a wonderful person um but he was just like he and i could just tell i was like you have like feelings about this lit like the like the idea of like a list being put on your fridge is like triggering to some part of the male brain of like am i gonna be made to like do homework like i don't know people need to maybe i'm being crazy but i just feel like my my ex before that was like really weird about like things being like written down even if it was like not like you need to do this at this time it's just like here are some things like we have this

event coming up in three weeks let's just remember that it's happening or like oh we're out of milk and I really feel like men are like ah scary anyway maybe I'm wrong about that but I just have been really caught up about the different ways that we are like programmed to exist in the world. I really thrive with lists.

Lists are helpful. Lists are just straight up helpful. It's too hard to remember all the things. Lists are helpful. Organization is helpful. These things are good things. is helpful. These things are good things. And look, gender is a construct and

all of this is like, but it's just, I just mean that like, I do think that the way we bring up like the idea of being a woman in the world is like, you're organized. You're on top of things. You make lists. That's like expected of you and that is not a thing that people freak out about. And then when a man, like if Joel had

been the one to put a list on the fridge, I feel like everyone's been like whoa that's crazy he makes lists like imagine a straight man making lists I don't know I've already been talking about this for what feels like an hour so I'm gonna stop but anyway living with someone is really

interesting and we're just there my updates are that one more just sorry I've been talking about an hour quick little update just first of all I have a hundred thoughts about the list but we simply do not have time but like we will continue to talk about lists

I could riff on lists for the next 45 minutes am I wrong or am I right I think that you're right but things are changing and you could potentially be wrong does Tim make lists? Tim does not make lists. However, if I make a list, he's open to adding to the list.

And if that's three men, it means the whole, all men. All of them. Yes, all men. No, I'm I And again, Joel is open to the list. Joel is open to the list and he's been great. He added things to the list and he was like, it could tell he was like really proud of himself. He like things to the list and he was like, it could tell he was like really proud of

himself. He like wrote on the board and he was like, did you see that I like wrote some stuff on the list? Like, it's like very cute. It's like you wrote on the board. I'm just saying that like it would never have occurred to him to start it. That's what I mean. It's not that he's against the concept of it. It's just like

it, I just we are expected to behave in the world differently and I think lists are a big part of it is just like it I just we are expected to behave in the world differently and I think lists are a big part of it okay Emily what's your third Emily what's your third thing sorry I've been talking for so long my third thing is just a small thing which is this you guys already know this which is one night early on

in the living together process I took a shower wash my hair and I was like oh I would like to wake up with wavy hair in the morning I'm gonna put my hair in braids and sleep in them which is like a thing that women do. Sure. Anyone can do it. But I know that women do it. So I did that. And like, look, when you for me, when I'm putting my hair in braids to like make it look a certain way in the morning, the braids look crazy. They're like, it's not like a style in and of itself. You're not styling your hair. It's curling the hair. It's a pre-style. And it looks insane.

And Joel has never been there for that process. Like he's he just sees the after. And he like I was like, he'd be like, oh, your hair looks cool. And I'd be like, oh, yes, I slept with it in braids. He'd be like, cool, that's great. I walked out of the room with my hair in these braids that looked insane. And he like he was like, what are you doing? You look insane.

All night. And he just couldn't get over it. And he was like, what are these braids? And it just was such a moment of like, this is living together. You see every step of the process and you never did before. And so now your brain is like, oh, okay. So there's like weirdness. Putting the pieces together.

There's weirdness that happens that I have not been privy to. And I couldn't believe how much the braids were blowing his mind. And I think I did show you guys a picture, but I will send it again. Maybe I'll post it. I don't know. They're not that crazy, but it's just like he kept saying I looked like a British rapper. And he like couldn't get over it. And it just

really made me laugh about like, okay, yeah, here we go. Like, here it is. I am laughing at the idea of you with these braids in. Even just thinking about you with the braids. They were funny, but to me they weren't crazy because like I always see when I do that. Do you know what I mean? Like I know what it's like. Yeah, it's normal for you. Anyway. Oh my God my god emily what a fucking update those are all my updates

you gave the people what they want no one can say you did it no one can say that i didn't nobody can say that i didn't do it oh my god sammy what's up with you um mine's not really what's up with me but just something that's happening in the world is that two billion genetically modified mosquitoes are being released. Stop it. They're like they're releasing males that when they mate with females, their babies will die. And so it will slowly reduce the population. And the scary thing is like, what a fucking evil mastermind this makes me feel like because i'm like yes yes like i want that species i want it gone like i truly truly want

i like nobody hates mosquitoes more than you yeah oh my god i was gonna say i think i've talked about it before but i really really hate mosquitoes i hate them so much nobody likes them but nobody hates them like you do no except maybe the guy that made these things yeah i my like windows in my apartment don't seal right so mosquitoes get like in my house in summer and it's just and they're never used to be mosquitoes in la and now they're fucking are and they're the worst they're everywhere they're like year round oh my god they i it's i hate them so much and the level of crazy i feel when they're like in my house when there's no safe space oh but like oh my god but i have a question is anyone worried though about the unintentional i'm worried consequences one lady is she was like we haven't literally just one lady well that was in the article i wrote it referenced one woman and she was like we haven't literally just one lady well that was in

the article i wrote it referenced one woman and i was like ladies kind of worried probably i was like this lady needs to shut the hell up and that is also scary because i'm just so short-sighted i'm like i don't fucking care i want i'm gone and yeah it's like the thing what it could be the thing that leads to like the end of the world we're already on that track though so we might as well get rid of the mosquitoes it's like yeah i'd like to die in a world where mosquitoes don't exist so if that's the thing i'd like to die in it i wouldn't like to live in it i would like to die in a world where mosquitoes don't exist yep okay all right no i agree with you however i just feel like it's going to set off some kind of like massive chain reaction. And like, we're all going to die really quickly, really soon. But maybe it will be in a releasing mosquitoes that can't mate. So then they'll never. So like the mosquitoes. The idea that these mosquitoes will cause their offspring to die. I know that's dark.

What's the science behind that? And that is fucking scary. That's really dark. That's really dark. That's a really good point. That's a fantastic point, Emily. Listen, I don't fucking care. I don't want them gone.

Jesus Christ. Because this is CRISPR, right? They use CRISPR to change the genes Yeah I think so It's a funny name for like a scary thing it sounds like chips Yeah Or like the name for an air fryer It probably is the same

As the name for an air fryer Horrifying Well I'm really happy for you Sammy Congratulations Thank you There's none being released in LA County Yet but I'm really happy for you, Sammy. Congratulations. Thank you. There's none being released in L.A. County yet, but, you know, soon, hopefully. Hopefully soon.

And we'll get that mosquito-free world to die in altogether. Beautiful. Okay. Let's move on. I literally could talk about these topics. I'm not joking. For two more hours. We should move on. We should move on. We should could talk about these topics. I'm not joking. For two more hours. We should move on.

We should move on. We should get into this week's movie, which is Night of the Creeps. Came out in 1986. Written and directed by Fred Decker. Starring Jason Lively, Tom Atkins, Steve Marshall, and Jill Whitlow. And we have a guest with us today who has been having some thoughts I think about our conversation maybe he'll have something to say about lists we're about to see um it is Todd from the Horror Virgin. Hey guys welcome Todd. So first off I don't know why Henley and Emily are only attracted to men who are list averse but that's clearly a type that you two have.

And you're going to have to deal with in therapy. So I love lists. I use them all the time because I'm super forgetful, though. Like, I know if I don't write it down, it's out. I'm never going to pick it up. I'm never going to do what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, that's good. Knowing yourself, you know, like when i was a kid watching the matrix

and the oracle was like know thyself i was like i should write that down on a list so i did and i remember it so yeah also i'm looking forward to this like i don't know mosquito-less apocalypse that we're all gonna live in as putin shoots nukes at us or whatever it's going to be. Hell yeah. It's going to be great. Yeah. I'm also very anti-mosquito. Whatever we can do to make the apocalypse a little bit easier. Can you imagine, like, the apocalypse and mosquitoes? It's one too many things. No, it's way too many things.

We're not stopping the apocalypse. I mean, I could deal with one or the other, but both? Come on. Too much. Too much. Well, Todd well did anything scary happen to you this week um so yeah something did well i came back from austin uh i was in austin for a birthday trip with a friend of mine we share a birthday so his girlfriend and my girlfriend and i and two other couple friends like eight of us went to austin for the weekend and then my brother was

watching my seven animals that we talked a little bit about before we started recording. And one of my cats, one of my five cats, five cats, two dogs, one of them, we could not find after he left.

And we just couldn't find it where I was texting my brother, Brandon. I was like, did you see storm again before you left? And he was like, yeah, I saw him. Yeah.

So crazy. We call him stormy for short. So did you see stormy before you left? And he was like, yeah, I saw him that morning. Yeah, so we have crazy names. We call him Stormy for short. So did you see Stormy before you left? And he was like, yeah, I saw him that morning. I remember feeding him. He's in the house somewhere. We looked for like an hour and could not find him. My girlfriend's like crying and it's terrible.

Is he a hider in general or no? No, not typically. Unless there's something wrong, like all the animals will sort of hide if they're not feeling well or if there's something wrong. That's a pretty common thing animals do. Anyway, so we thought maybe something's wrong and he's just hiding from us.

So we were like looking around the house. We couldn't find it. We went outside thinking he may have gotten outside while Brandon was letting the dogs in and out. So we were like looking around outside for like probably 45 minutes. We come back in. My girlfriend's like distraught. We walk into our like front room sort of area and our stairs to this to our bonus room or like right there and he's just sitting on the stairs like

oh hey you guys are back oh no everywhere in the house for him he just wanted to punish you a little bit for leaving he is that kind of guy like he was like he was like following you guys you would look in a room and be like great now I can go in there and then you would look and be like okay

yeah he's the most skittish of cats so my theory was He would look in a room and he'd be like, great, now I can go in there. And then he would go look in a room and he'd be like, okay, now I can go in there. Yeah. He's the most skittish of cats. So my theory was like he came out for food, but then he just didn't want to be around my brother because he didn't know him that well. So he like hid somewhere and then just didn't realize that we were home or like just was enjoying being hidden because cats are like that. So yeah, it was terrifying though. I hated it. There's nothing scarier than like losing.

It's such a scary feeling. Yeah. Than like losing an animal. Oh my God. But at least we found him. I hated it. There's nothing scarier than like losing. It's such a scary feeling. Yeah. Than like losing an animal. Oh, my God. But at least we found him. He's fine. He's doing fine. Thank God.

That is scary. That is very scary. Especially when like I've had that feeling, too, when somebody else was watching your animals and then you can't find one and you're like, oh, no. Like, it's one thing if you know it's I left the door open or but like that feeling of like, is this also going to ruin a relationship with a person and it was my brother who was super responsible and like

I would be shocked if he did anything that led to like something happening to one of my animals and he was very thrilled that we found him he was like good I'm glad everything's good but yeah it was terrifying and I was like am I never gonna be able to talk to my brother again like how do we how do we deal with this that would have been tough oh man but I wrote all of And I was like, am I never going to be able to talk to my brother again? Like, how do we how do we deal with this?

That would have been tough. Oh, man. But I wrote all of my thoughts on a list and then called him later. And we talked it out. Perfect. Lists are so important. They are. Wait. OK, so.

So, Todd, obviously, you are part of Horror Virgin, the podcast. Yes, I'm one of the three of us. Your whole thing with movies is you're scared of them right usually well not all movies it's just horror movies specifically I'm not like oh my god pictures can move thank you for that clarification is it magic I don't know well yeah specific kind yes specifically horror movies I um have been scared of horror movies my entire life I watched I went to a sleepover I think when I was like seven or eight I've told the story in the podcast too but like

and at the sleepover they showed the omen and the exorcist both? yeah both of them I was seven or eight I was so I was the youngest in my family for about ten years and my mom got remarried and we have I have a sister who's ten years younger than me but like

during that time I was the youngest so all of my siblings friends were older so like I had a sister who I think at the time was like 13 or 14 so we were all like we had church friends who were all the same age like we had kids they had kids that were all the same age as us anyway so we were there at the parkers watching these movies and it was like maybe appropriate for like a 13 14 year old but not for it like a 7 8 year old no so I was just freaked out and didn't watch horror movies until

like I don't know February March of 2018 when we started recording for the podcast and I now four years removed from that still hate them like I'm still I would say I hate them. I have developed a respect for them.

I totally know what you mean. I think they're really well, not all of them. Cause with any genre, you have shit movies and you have amazing movies. Like I can recognize hereditary was amazing. It should have won Oscars. Like it was an amazing movie,

but after the naked man misdirected jump scare you guys have done hereditary right yeah we have i saw that in the theater and i stood up and yelled fuck at the screen when she starts running at him like a dog or whatever i've only seen it in the theater that one time and it scared the shit out of me so like i really just cannot handle being scared which is why i'm here with you guys because two-thirds of you feel the same way i'd imagine yes yeah yeah well hereditary gives you like a specific kind of scared too right it's like extremely disturbing fills you with dread deeply anxiety inducing yeah and is that so do you have like a specific type of horror movie that you hate the most like how do you feel about ghosts and stuff like that i don't fuck with it yeah no it's really so i am more scared of jump scares than anything

but uh like you were saying hereditary is more than jump scares um although it did have some good good effective jumpscares and when i say good know that in my mind I'm saying I hate them I hate them but like it also the impending dread does get to me body horror gets to me but that is a little bit less than jump scares like yeah we did green room for the podcast I mean we we've done over 200 episodes

sort of like you guys you guys are closing in on that number too like so at this point you guys have at least talked about maybe not watched all of the movies but like green room specifically really messed me up with the body horror like it was and so many of them do it is so gnarly it's a really good movie and I am a former musician that used to tour and stuff so like I know what it's like to be just hanging out in a green room never at like a clan rally or whatever they were at yeah they're like all neo-nazis oh yeah it's sort of boring and you're just sort of hanging out shooting the shit with people you don't really know and then I can imagine what that would be like if it went south like you just don't want to be a part

of it so that movie specifically messed with me I hated hearing about green room that was particularly bad I love the way they did the poster for it because it's a I think it's a callback to the Clash's London Calling album art. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I loved that. But other than that

hated that movie. Although that's another one I think is really well done. Yeah, I love I love that movie. I've seen it a lot of times, which is kind of crazy. But Sammy, I am terrified of you. Yeah, me too. I have a lot of respect for you to be able to do this, though. I love it.

I love it. I don't know anything about this movie. I literally know nothing. I don't think I've heard of it. You mean Night of the Creeps? Yes. Night of the Creeps. What made you choose Night of the Creeps?

So Night of the Creeps is, I think, the best movie ever made. And when I say that, I mean it's 80s terrible like it is yeah an awful movie from the 80s that is like all of the 80s tropes packed into one it feels a little bit like Animal House a little bit like Revenge of the Nerds and a little bit like a zombie movie all mixed together and what I can only imagine was a like script that was thrown together either on set or like a week before they went to set uh under heavy like cocaine usage it is oh fine it's so crazy i feel like i not having seen a ton of 80s movies but even the ones i have seen and the ones we've heard about i do feel like movies in the 80s were just like i don't know let's just do everything at once like every movie is like

what if every genre we just did it yeah who cares uh and it's fascinating that's the cocaine speaking probably probably the cocaine it is all of those conversations definitely started with the you know what we should do that's what they all started with yeah well man i'm excited oh don't be um it is way more fun to watch i think than it is to just talk about and this is one that is i chose this because i knew i'd have to watch it again and if it's scary i'll never watch it again so yeah i um definitely picked a horror comedy because i can i can deal with horror comedies and after doing halloween 3 we did a live show and we talked about halloween three and

i fell in love with tom atkins during halloween three have you guys talked about halloween three no no so it's the one halloween movie that does not follow any of the halloween story it's like out of nowhere it is also it is very weird but it is also the best because it's bad but i like i love it like they steal part of stonehenge i don't i don't want to spoil it bonkers oh by the way they don't tell you how they do that it's just like a stone from stonehenge is in la for no reason but whatever anyway tom adkins is in that so i like immediately fell in love with tom adkins during that and then mikey who's one of my one of my best friends who's also here in Nashville with me and he's on the podcast with me

he loves like bad cheesy 80s movies like Return of the Living Dead and stuff like that so he suggested that we do this and we did this episode probably middle of last year and I've watched it probably three times since then I found this movie like delightful yeah

it is it is so terrible but it is so utterly watchable yeah it's like one of those movies where you could just watch it and not really pay attention but still laugh it's it's very fun all I want are movies that I can have on and basically not watch I want to read reddit on my phone while I watch every oh my god oh my god I want to read Reddit on my phone while I watch every movie. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I want to be in eight different places mentally while I'm watching something. Yeah, I'm on ADHD medication and I'm still doing that. So, like, it's not working. Whatever.

But it is a movie that I think you guys that haven't seen it should watch because it's not really that scary. In fact, at the end, I cry a little bit every time. Oh, cute. Make sure to tell us when. Oh, I will. scary in fact at the end i cry a little bit every time oh oh i will i'll probably be crying when i'm telling you about it i love it just a quick little some stats it has a 75 on rotten tomatoes 62 it's like pretty high i know i know 62 on metacritic 6.7 on imdb those are pretty standard ratings for those sixes yeah yes yeah uh the budget five million box office 591 366 dollars i just really enjoyed that it was such a specific number it just stopped making money after that and we also we rarely get a movie that like ends in,

that you could say dollars. Do you know what I mean? Like it's always like this many million. Is that $500,000? Yeah, literally $500,000. They lost a lot of money. They lost a lot of money. Some might say 4.5 million.

That is a quick math. Another way to say it. Yeah, quick math. And I just had a personal thing, a personal story to add is that I went to college with the composer's son. So like the composer's name came up and I was like, I know him. And my friend went to his family home once in Santa Barbara. And this was when we were in college real crazy days she said she was

like walking in carrying a 24 pack of Coors Light and Oprah walked in what this is that house like the Oprah the Oprah who is his neighbor I would immediately look under my chair I would just like assume that she had planted something under my chair

especially being like in college where you're like yeah of course light uh well i mean no shade against actually no i don't like course like but whatever uh but like but oh my god i wouldn't be prepared to see oprah at any party at 30 but i think i would handle it a little i would be like okay at 22 i'd be like what the fuck i would, I'd be like, what the fuck? I would lose my mind. I think I would be silent. I would be silent. I think that was what happened.

I would be shocked into silence completely. I would do the same. I'd be like, oh, I can't. Hi, Oprah. Oh, my God. Nice to meet you. What's your name? Connor Oprah seems like too intimate.

You know what I mean? Miss Winfrey. Miss Winfrey. Madam Winfrey. Yeah. Damn. Okay. Let's watch this trailer.

I love an 80s trailer. I can't wait to see what this one will have in store. Oh, wow. I can't wait. I think I need to go ahead and proactively apologize for what we're about to watch. Amazing. The Night of the Four is finally here.

For Chris, Cindy, and JC. It's going to be the best night of their lives. But tonight is also the Night of the creeps. From a world unknown comes a nightmare unimagined. First, they're under you, around you, on you, then inside you. Then... Inside you. They get into your mouth, and you walk around with an incubate, even if you're dead.

They are a new terror. Freeze! They are a different kind of horror. Zombies, exploding heads, creepy crawlies. We could have a little problem. The Creeps are taking over. I got good news and bad news, girls. What?

The good news is your dates are here. What's the bad news? They're dead. You have never had a night like this. Night of the creeps. If you scream, you're dead. Okay. Oh, my God.

The little creepy crawly things, way more effective than I was expecting. Yeah, I was not anticipating little, like, leech slugs yeah yeah oh disgusting also this whole like idea of something just dropping in from outer space is reminding me of attack of the killer clowns that's what it's called killer clowns from outer space killer clowns yeah yeah um similar time period but like same idea for a horror movie where it's just like something from outer space killer clowns from outer space yeah yeah um similar time period but like same idea for a horror movie where it's just like something from outer space just like appears and it's terrifying they don't need to explain it just like came from space came from space that's all you need to know came from space it's weird it's bad this movie starts out with a gun fight on an alien ship like it's not just like you see the ship and it shoots out of it like there are people in like

what I can only describe as like six foot tall baby suits shooting at each other yes ladies there's a whole plot that happens on the ship before there's like another movie within this movie Sammy I so badly want

the like prequel to this movie that is just like them creating these slugs. And then one of them starting the we should shoot it on the planet and the rest of them being like, no, we shouldn't. And then them starting a gunfight and then one of them running to an escape hatch and then launching it out like that needs to be like an event horizon level movie. Yeah, I need it. Yeah. Wow. level movie yeah i need it yeah wow um i also looked up finally this trailer narrator's name is his name is percy rodriguez because he does so many he did the exorcist alien jaws the omen

pet cemetery so we finally know his name percy rodriguez what a fucking pro yeah he's like the in a world guy like that is his shit. And I love that he's doing that. And like what we're watching on the screen is fully just like slugs being pulled with strings. Yeah. So crazy. It's awesome. Amazing. You know what?

It did something for me though. Like usually these 1980s effects, I'm like, whatever. But that, I felt something. They were nasty. They were nasty. I'll be honest with you. The effects in this movie, some are terrible. Like you saw the dog as the boss approaches it.

Oh, I love that dog. And it's just like a dog is like, oh. But like it looks ridiculous. But the dog fully looks terrible. But a lot of the effects like in this movie, some heads explode and slugs like shoot out of it. Some of the heads pulling apart and that kind of stuff looks pretty effective. I mean, I've never seen a head explode, but I'd imagine it'll look something like that when it finally happens to me.

I feel like I was impressed with a lot of the effects in this. And a lot of the things in this movie, I was like, oh, this is actually pretty cool and looks pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I don't think Tom Savini did it or anything, but they're pretty decent. Yeah. Yeah.

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A little plug for your Patreon. Thank you. Patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. I love Patreon. It's like literally, it pays my mortgage. So not your Patreon, but we can talk about my cut of it later. So this movie, as we just discussed, starts out on a like Nostromo level aliens like spaceship right and as i mentioned there are three like baby like six foot tall baby characters one of them is holding a canister the

canister that you saw being shot out of the spaceship we'll get to that in a second and they're running down the hallway of this spaceship like after the one baby who's carrying the canister and they're literally shooting at him and they're talking like they actually have dialogue but they're talking in alien language but don't worry about it the movie subtitles it for you in both the alien scripts and then below that the english script so like immediately you know that there was a lot of cocaine involved in this movie. Yeah, absolutely. What if we made it alien language? We wrote it down. Yeah. That is like Tolkien

level shit right there. Like they created an alien language to then just like subtitle it later. Anyway, so long story short, there's like an experiment going on and you can gleam this from the subtitles. There was an experiment going on with these like slugs. One of them wanted to shoot it at Earth to test it the other two didn't they're the responsible

six foot tall baby aliens this guy grabs the canister runs down the hallway puts it in escape hatch and shoots it out to space and then you see it sort of going towards earth we don't see it hit earth but we then don't see the aliens again for an hour and 30 minutes. Okay, great. Just keep in mind we do see them again. Okay. Although I'll say this too. I watched the director's

cut because that's what was on Amazon. Interesting. I don't know if we see them again in the non-director, in the theatrical cut. So don't at me. I don't know. In my cut if we see them again in the non-director, in the theatrical cut. So don't, don't at me. I don't know. In my cut, we see them again. Okay.

So it then goes from fully technicolor to black and white. And it says 1959. Okay. Just like laying the scene, right? So it's like sorority row 1959 we're outside of a sorority house there's like co-eds like hanging out in the lawn you pan over and see just a convertible

like pulling up a guy getting out sort of walking to the house but before he gets out the radio says we interrupt this program for a king newsflash authorities at the Crest Ridge Institute for the criminally insane have requested on all points bulletin. And the guy turns off the radio right then, which is, I think, stupid.

But he then sort of goes up, meets this girl who we come to meet as Pam, and she sort of walks out. They get in the car and they sort of drive off. Right. It cuts to like make out point. Pam and her gentleman caller are snuggled together in the convertible looking up at the stars and a policeman sort of busts up the fun and it's clear the policeman knows who pam is because he's like hey guys there's a murderer on the oh pam like it's

like that sort of thing right at this point i'm I'm like, this is killer clans from outer space. This is like, I feel like the exact opening. There's the like cop knows the girl in the car and they're like, make a point. And something from space. It diverges after this scene. But up till here, it's like, this is a movie. It's still pretty bonkers. Like they're both crazy in their own unique, stupid ways.

Killer clowns is nuts. Yeah. Okay. both crazy in their own unique stupid ways killer clowns is nuts um yeah okay so he recognizes Pam and then Pam sort of explains that like they know each other it's clear that they're that's his ex-girlfriend right and while we were at the sorority house we hear a girl on the phone in the room with Pam she's explaining to someone on the phone that

Pam broke up with someone because he's a cop and he's going nowhere in his life and I was like, all right. Back in the 1950s, they were also very fucked up police. Yeah. All right. Very, very cool. Anyway.

So Roy. Sorry. Yeah. No, it's Ray. Ray is the sort of main character who becomes spoiler alert Tom Atkins. But he sort of says, whatever, just go home. It's it's dangerous out tonight. They, of course course don't but

he leaves he just leaves them alone which i think is pretty respectful he doesn't say anything mean he's just like go home right because he knows about the killer on the loose from the crest crest ridge institute for the criminally insane pam and johnny is her boyfriend that they're driving around and they like and then they are looking at the stars yeah but before they drive away because the reason they drive away is they look back up at the stars they snuggle back up after ray leaves and they see the canister but it really just looks like an asteroid sort of fly over them and crash and then uh johnny is like oh i've got to go check that out because why not so he drives away with pam and they go to like investigate and they literally

just pull over on the side of the road and johnny grabs a flashlight and heads into the woods and pam is like just like left in the car for no reason and while she's in the car by herself and i sort of love the way they do this the radio comes on or the radio is still on but the the music gets interrupted and the radio dj says please continue the search for a 35 year old escapee from the Crest Ridge, uh, mental Institute, uh, Crest Ridge police warned that the man is armed with a large fire ax and is

believed to be moving West on route 66 towards the Corman university area. And she looks, yeah. So she looks up from like the radio cause she was looking down at it and you see route 66, a sign. And then you also see another sign, but it's it's like sort of blacked out. It's like too dark to see.

So you see her turn on the lights and then it says Corman University three miles ahead. So it's like he's right. He's right there, Pam. He's like right with you anyway. So it is like sort of cutting between Johnny looking for what is the canister, but he thinks is an asteroid and Pam in the car, like calling to him like, hey, can we leave? Let's go back to make out point. And I think she even says, I'll let you fondle my breast more or whatever. It's I wrote that down.

I'll even let you fondle my breast. Just come back. Whatever it takes. But I think at the time she does offer her breast. Yes. For fondleage. You see someone step into frame behind her obviously this is the

murderer and so cutting back and forth between Johnny looking for the canister and the murderer slowly creeping up to Pam they sort of meet their fates at the same time the murderer kills Pam with the axe which we don't quite see but we get almost there but also

the canister explodes as Johnny finds it and you see a slug go into his mouth. Like shoot out of the canister into his mouth, right? Gross, gross, gross. And then it cuts to 1986. Okay. I was confused. I was like, damn, did this whole movie take place in the 50s?

I didn't catch that in the trailer. It looks like the 80s. It looks like the 80s. It looks like the 80s to me. It very much is all in like 86, except for this first like little section. And then there are some flashbacks because your main like detective character is Tom Atkins, who was Ray, right?

So he is sort of reliving the events. Oh, Ray, okay, so it's like 30 years later, yeah. Right? Because this zombie movie, which it technically is a zombie movie, also has a axe murderer subplot that Ray has to get over the murder of his ex-girlfriend.

It's insane. Okay. So we'll get into that. So we cut to Pledge Week 1986, but now in full Titan of Color because it's the 80s. And we zoom in on some campus co-ed, sort of like the 1959 scene,

but now the trees, they of like the 1959 scene, but now the trees, they're like toilet papered, and we meet our two main guys, which are Chris and JC. And Chris is, they're both sort of nerdy, and they're sort of lamenting over the fact that, I think Chris even says that my grandparents have more sex than we do. And JC is like, yeah, but that's good for them. I'm like, I'm happy

that your grandparents have a great sex life. And I mean, I get it, but I don't want to hear about it either. But JC continues like to try and cheer Chris up because he's very depressed.

I think he even sort of briefly mentions that like his high school girlfriend broke his heart. And ever since then, he hasn't been able to get over it or whatever. And Chris is like

just trying to cheer him up. It's clear they've been friends for a long time and they're very very close right chris immediately sees who we come to find is cindy across sort of like the road they're walking down one side of campus and she's on sorority row that's like across the street and he sees uh cindy and he's like gobstopped he's like you can't believe how beautiful she is it's like you know she's gorgeous and he like can't talk jc sees that this is happening and is like yeah she's pretty attractive right and he's like yeah but you know she'll never talk to me and he's like well you have to go talk to her i love jc in this movie jc's just like both of them are so good i was so impressed with like how

charming these two are as like the leads like they were great I really liked them I really did buy their friendship I really do think that JC is just like giving him great advice the whole movie that's a good friend shot yeah right but Chris

is like I have one of my best friends who's also the co-host of my podcast with me is very unlucky in love but it's mainly because he makes bad choices so like I feel like I'm JC and he's Chris because I'm always like you got to put yourself back out there and like and even in this scene like Chris is like well she'll you know I'll never get to know her and JC's like well you could just like go talk to her. Yeah. And he's like, well, I don't even know her name.

And then JC from across the street, it's like starts yelling at her like, hey, hey, pretty lady. And Chris is like, Chris is like hiding his face like, oh, my fucking God. Like, this is terrible. And eventually, like, she does see what's going on. Cut to inside the party that's going on cut to inside the party that's going on at that I think they might be at a frat house it doesn't really make a difference but it's at it's on sorority row

yeah so we sort of cut interior oh no I do have my notes it's the beta house which is the fraternity there yeah and it's like full scale like 80s dance party Chris pours himself a beer, I'd assume. And JC is sort of at his side just with him because he's an amazing wingman. And they stop. So we cut to like Cindy and is like next to this like super macho sort of jock guy.

But when I say super macho sort of jock guy, picture like an 80s version of that. Not like now when you think like um like chris hemsworth is like a big beefy guy now like he's much smaller than that yeah but he gets coded as a jock yeah because it was the 80s and people didn't know how to lift weights i think anyway but like does he have does he have very blonde hair i feel like they always have very blonde hair no he doesn't okay so he doesn't but the main beta guy who i call the alpha beta does have blonde hair the blondest hair you've ever seen plot point okay a secret nazi and we'll talk about that too did you pick up on that sammy did not yeah so i i'm a nerd and i watch too many

documentaries if you follow his like story in this movie his his name's Brad or the Bradster, if you will. He is a Nazi. Oh, my God. He's even wearing a tank top in one of the scenes that has a Nazi like eagle crest on it. Yeah, I missed that. It's not super overt, but they do code the Bradster as the worst kind of person. And I sort of love that. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Anyway, I felt it was like very Indiana Jones. We're like the Nazis are the bad guys. Anyway. So JC and Chris oversee Cindy talking to this beefy dude or 80s beefy dude. Right. And Chris is like, she's already with some like hulky hunkster dude.

Like she's never going to go for me. And JC is like building up Chris and like sort of tearing's already with some like hulky hunkster dude like she's never gonna go for me and JC's like building up Chris and like sort of tearing down the macho dude and he's like that guy's a bozo he looks like the missing link he has one continuous eyebrow like you're way better than that guy Chris is very not willing to go approach Cindy so JC's like well I'll go talk to her then so he walks over to her starts talking to Cindy finds out her name is Cindy Cronenberg which is a fun fact in this movie I know you guys sometimes pepper in fun facts yep there's a lot of references to famous horror people her last name Cronenberg is one of those references interesting yeah yeah that one really made me laugh too because it's

such a specific last name like Cronenberg and, just side note, her name is Cynthia, and they go back between Cynthia and Cindy. I did not know Cindy was short for Cynthia. And so I was like, is her name Cindy or Cynthia? Because in my head, I thought those were two completely separate names. I think they can be totally separate names, but I guess also they could be the same name. I was like, am I going crazy? Like, they're changing her name every time. And it's like it's a nickname.

It's a nickname. And I just didn't know that. I honestly didn't know that either. But I did think that they just did that in this movie. I don't know if anyone else does that, but maybe they do. Yeah. No, I looked it up and you can go by Cindy if your name is Cynthia. And I just had no idea.

I had an algebra teacher in high school that refused to believe that my name Todd wasn't short for something so for an entire like semester he called me Todrick Todd is Todd usually short for something not my name no I mean Todrick is a name like I watch a lot of RuPaul's Drag Race and they have Todrick on a lot to

like choreograph do choreography for them anyway so like Todrick is a name but it's not short for, like Todd is not short for that. I wouldn't say it's more common than Todd. No, definitely not. No. It's probably not more common than Todd.

It's probably not. Todd's not really a great name, which I feel like I am uniquely qualified to say, but there are plenty of better names that you can pick from that do have shorter versions. Versions. Sorry.

I'm not a virgin. That's not what i'm saying no it's not is that maybe chris is but not me not me plug in the pod oh yeah i guess it was like also a subtle plug from my podcast all right whatever um so jc is working his magic on cindy but not like flirting her so much, but he's like building up Chris. He's like, hey, this guy over here thinks you're beautiful or whatever. And when it cuts to Chris, as he's talking about Chris, Chris like sees them and turns

and like runs into somebody and spills his drink all over them. Like he could not be more of like a doofus in this moment, but I sort of love that for him. But Cindy lets JC know that she has a boyfriend and JC's like, oh, my bad, and leaves, right?

And then he goes back to Chris. But he doesn't say that she has a boyfriend, though. He does say that I don't think she has a boyfriend. So they sort of formulate a plan. Like, Chris is like, I have to do something to get her to notice me, to get her to talk to me, then fall in love with me. And JC's like, no, you can just, like, talk to her. This is more of, like, that good advice fall in love with me and JC's like no you could just like talk to her this is more of like that good advice I was talking about earlier that JC's giving like

you don't have to like what they end up doing you don't have to like try and join the beta house and do like some outlandish prank to get her to notice you you could just like talk to her but Chris is like no we gotta join the beta house yeah we gotta join the beta house this is like sort of like the animal housey type part of the movie yeah anyway so it cuts from them

talking about how they have to join the beta house to them literally sitting down across from like a bunch of beta boys and this is where we meet who will come to be known as the Bradster or Brad the Nazi we mentioned earlier and he does have like bleached blonde hair with brownish roots, brown eyebrows. Like he definitely bleached his hair blonde, right? And they're talking about how can we get into your frat? And they're very much like, well, we have all the pledges we need.

It would take sort of this big sort of thing for you to get in, for us to even consider you you'd have to do something and then it cuts away before they tell them what it is but we come to find out that what they want them to do is steal a body from the morgue and dump it in front of a different fraternity's house

classic prank classic prank corpse absolutely hilarious oh my god have you guys ever done pranks in college you guys all did college pranks right we've all done it. Absolutely hilarious. Oh my God. Have you guys ever done pranks in college? You guys all did college pranks, right? We've all gotten bodies

from the morgues and thrown them in front of other rats. Sort of standard college stuff. Yeah. Who among us hasn't? I didn't steal a body from a morgue,

but I did steal a bunch of license plates off of my professor's cars and switched them to other license plates in the same parking lot. I mean, that's a prank. That's a prank.

Also, that's a real prank because people probably don't notice for a while. Well, no, they well, I don't think the people who drove the cars noticed, but I did notice when we did that, the security office for my campus was across the street from the faculty parking lot. And Todd and Adam, who was my roommate at the time, were idiots. And literally the campus officer walked up to us and we're like, hey, what are you guys doing? Yeah.

So we got in a lot of trouble for that. Anyway, don't do college pranks. It's dumb. I mean, in hindsight, don't do it. It's dumb. Anyway, so we cut to JC and Chris having left the party, sort of walking down the street, talking about what they're going to do. And this is when we sort of realize what the plan is, right?

What they talked about with the frat boys. It then cuts back to the beta boys talking and they're like, we're not going to really let them in the frat, right? And then Bradster's like, no, no, they're terrible. We're not going to let them in the frat. They probably believe in like equal rights and love minorities. So, no, we're not going to let them in the frat. I'm only saying that because they're Nazis, not because they're in a frat they probably believe in like equal rights and love minorities so no we're not gonna let them in the frat i'm only saying that because they're nazis not because they're in a frat don't come at me all right so we then cut back to jc and chris and they're walking down into a basement which we'll come to find out is like the medical wing

probably where you'd put a morgue right but we don we don't necessarily see Chris and JC yet. We see what looks sort of like a science guy. It's a dude in a white coat and he's walking up to a door that has a key panel right next to it. He starts typing in the code to the door and it's clear he doesn't remember what the number is. So he is like, I'm going to go call somebody. So he leaves. Right. Having typed in all but the last number, we will come to find out. We then cut to him at the phone calling somebody. He's like, hey, Ruby, I think is the name he calls.

I need you to look at my desk and tell me what the last digit of the code is. And as he's on the phone, we see JC and Chris walk by. Now, it's not the morgue that they're at. It's just like a lab, right? But JC fully stops, like entranced by the keypad and hits zero on the keypad of course the door flies open because that was the last digit

and they go in right as they go in it's completely dark all the lights are off they're like fumbling around to try and find the lights and then the lights turn on and JC finds himself in the middle of the room looking at Johnny from before from 1959 Pleasantville if you remember yeah and he is in cryo like stasis in this pod like fully naked I think he's got boxers on or something but he's like in this thing frozen right so they're clearly like running tests on him yeah so chris comes over he's like we we need to get out of here we're like trying to find a body that body is locked in this canister or whatever let's just leave and jc's like well i don't see any other any other bodies like to go wrapped for us so let's try and get him out of here so they go over to what i would call like

what I would call like 1960s NASA panels, if that makes any sense. It literally has. I love that set deck did this for the movie. They had like a red card that just says like cryogenic stasis like panel or whatever. And it's literally like duct taped onto this panel. Anyway, so they figure out how to open it and it does like the body falls forward and they sort of set it on the ground.

So now Johnny is out of the stasis and he's like laying on the ground. We then cut back to the science guy. We couldn't find out later. He's a grad student who's working in the lab, which is common. But he gets the last digit from his friend who he called and starts coming back. Right. They start when I say they, mean chris and jc start carrying johnny out to pull off this prank johnny sort of wakes up and grabs jc's arm chris and jc

freak out drop johnny and run out they literally pass the science guy as they're walking out and running out the science guy falls down it's very benny hill but anyway they leave and nothing happens right the science guy then goes in sees johnny on the ground is like what the fuck and walks over to him and then johnny you don't see it because it cuts away but there is some interaction that takes place between johnny and the grad student science guy jc and chris run all the way back to their dorm j JC is sort of making jokes about what they need to do like he's like let's go get machine guns and then mow down that guy who grabbed me in the lab right and Chris is like you need to stop making jokes about everything it's not all fun and

games or whatever he's like listen I know that you've been sad ever since your ex broke your heart we need to get over that you need to get back out there it's clear that they like they like fight like really good friends fight where you're like fuck you i hate you but like you fully love that person it's sort of like that sort of thing i mean this scene ends with them having a sort of pillow fight because it was the 80s and that's what you did in dorms i guess yeah i actually really do like chris and jc's like relationship i think it's really sweet it's great they have that pillow fight and it cuts to tom atkins this is the first time you see Tom being Tom. And he is, let me just like paint the scene for you.

It's incredible. He's on a beach in a full ass white suit, sunglasses. He's sitting on the sand in a white suit. Like that is the level of Tom Atkins we're getting. Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's like Miami Vice Tom Atkins.

A woman in a bikini brings him a drink and a coconut bikini and high heels on the sand. Well, yeah. Yeah. And she honestly walks fine. She makes it look easy. Yeah. So he looks out into the water and sees a woman coming up out of the water. But as she comes up out of the water, she's completely dry, we know because of physics would be impossible right but and people are like walking in front of him on the beach so he's like struggling to see who she is and then as we get a better view of her it's clear it's pam right and then it cuts back from um sort of what he's seeing to like the 1950s and then it like it cuts back to tom as he stands up and he's like transported back in time. He approaches the convertible and the,

the murderers literally just like swing after swing hacking away at him. Watched it happen. Yeah. So this is what we're realizing. I mean, clearly he wakes up from this dream, right? So this is like him sort of reliving that

moment in fact I don't know Sammy if you caught this when you first flash back to it and you see Tom dresses the cop he's like young version of himself he's holding Pam's like disembodied hand I did notice and then it's gone and like the next shot yeah

so I don't know if that was like a continuity thing but yes he is holding her hand for some reason. Anyway, just a nasty little dream. I thought it was a pretty effective dream sequence. I thought it's like very, it's pretty, pretty well done.

Yeah. It's clear that he's struggling with, well, I would probably say it was like PTSD. Yeah. For sure. So, cause he does,

he did stumble upon her and that becomes like a plot point or stumble upon both of them. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So he's woken up. he did stumble upon her and that becomes like a plot point or stumble upon both of them right yeah so he's woken up he's safely in his recliner at home he sighs in relief and as and the phone rings sort of breaking the tension and he answers the phone and says my favorite line in this movie that he says a few times and that is thrill me that's's all he says. OK. Thrill me. And you.

OK. The caller on the phone says Detective Cameron, which is Tom Adkins name. But if you'll if you'll oblige me, I'm just going to call him Tom Adkins. The whole movie. That's cool. Just understand that he is now not a beat cop. He's a detective. All right.

And then he says, no, it's both of the clown. That's what Tom says, because he's that kind of guy. And then the man says, no, it's both of the clown. That's what Tom says, because he's that kind of guy. And then the man says, like, what happened? There was a break in the medical center at the university. Can you please come down and, you know, do your fucking job? So it cuts to the medical medical center. And what I will describe as the worst CSI unit is like firmly on the case. Right.

And I say that because, like like one of them has gloves on but is also eating a donut on off a clipboard as he's like doing like his job like it's wild like everyone in this scene is terrible at what they're doing anyway detective cameron walks in flashes his badge but introduces himself as bow winkle the moose which i thought was hilarious and then says again just keeps being like detective Cameron no some other silly Name it's like a very He only does it twice

It's one of those things like I wish happened every Time someone asked his name but it's like the Person who was writing this forgot they were Doing a recurring bit yes yes yes and Stopped doing it 30 minutes in The movie and I sort of It makes me love it a little bit more Yeah I wish they had continued it it's just very Funny that they stopped doing it yeah minutes into the movie. And I sort of, it makes me love it a little bit more, but I wish they had continued it.

It's just very funny that they stopped doing it. But he then does say, after he introduces himself as Bullwinkle the Moose, he says, thrill me, which they, yeah, he must do this all the time because they recognize that it means just tell

me what's going on if you could. So, so they sort of explain that, like, you know, they had Ice Ice Johnny in this cryogenic frozen thing, but he's no longer there. And the body that they did call him about was actually the grad student that is on the ground dead, quote unquote, on the floor. And when they initially called him, they did say there was two bodies. unquote on the floor and when they initially called him they did say there was two bodies so Tom Atkins starts grilling the desk sergeant whose name

is Ramey which is another one of those like plugs to like Sam Ramey yeah it's not Sam Ramey in it but it's a plug to Sam Ramey anyway anyway so he's like grilling detective sergeant Ramey about it and he says so this is my bad I sent two rookie cops

to the scene initially they both took a bathroom break at the same time both the bodies were here when they left when they came back there was only the one body and then tom atkins says uh something to the effect of that's great but there's one minor problem bodies like that have been dead for 27 years don't just get up and then walk by themselves cut to Johnny walking by himself down the street okay very much so we then cut over to the alpha blonde beta Nazi

guy that we were talking about before and he's pulling up at his convertible and he apologizes to Cindy about like having to call an early night because they have some pledge initiation I think even calls it humiliation that they have to deal with so Cindy is understandably disappointed

because her boyfriend would rather spend time with his beta dudes than with her but she whatever understands and that goes inside he kisses her on the cheek and she goes inside he then pulls away and when he pulls away it's like a close up shot of his the back of his convertible and his license plate does say Bradster as he pulls away it's like a close-up shot of his uh the back of his convertible and his license plate does say bradster as he drives away and i was like you could not make me hate

this person anymore and then later they reveal he's a nazi and i was like oh no you can okay cool so sydney does walk in uh as brad drives away but you cut inside of the sorority house and uh sydney walks up to her room but as she she does, one of her sisters says, hey, I have these like jars. She's like holding a box of jars and I need a place to store them. And she she refers to Cindy as Prez. So I'm assuming that she's the president of the sorority. And she's like, well, what's in the jars? And she says it's for it's a science experiment thing.

But there are brains in the jars and she's like human brains. And she's like, yeah, it's a science experiment. Like, there are brains in the jars and she's like human brains. And she's like, yeah, it's a science experiment. Like, of course there are human brains. So Cindy is like, okay, just like storm in the basement, I guess.

And then like, she, she continues walking up the steps and then we don't talk about the brains again for 45 minutes or probably more like an hour. So as Cindy gets to her, into her room, she starts changing into something a little more comfortable and then we see Johnny sort of like

slowly approaching as she's changing and this is the 80s and it's a horror movie so fully she is naked for like part of this right so she and it's like cutting back and forth between Johnny getting closer and closer and closer Johnny does eventually get to like the fire escape

and then she Cindy walks over to the window and opens it you know they're building up all this tension and there's nothing there so she's like oh okay and then Johnny pops out of nowhere and this is where you see Johnny Johnny has like it looks like his face has been cut up a little bit

it's not too graphic but it's a little little gory here he has a rose in his hand at first like as if he's giving her a flower but then it cuts back again and it's gone in the next shot but yeah I just really like that initial like zombie with a rose for

you so but anyway so he then well I guess you don't really see the head explode but you can assume the head explodes and you see I believe the slugs falling through like the fire, the fire escape. Great. Yeah. Right.

So it's clear that the slugs are coming out of the people that they have been in. Right. So the next thing we see is Tom pulling up to the sorority house in his I call it a cop car, but it's very much like his car. But it has like the red light on the top of it. And as he walks towards the front door, he literally stops to smell the rose bush. Like he's like leans over and smells the rose bush. And yes,

that does come back later. And as he does this, like paramedics walk by with a stretcher, Tom walks up to the body that they see. And he sees that it's Johnny from the lab. Like it's the guy from the lab but as he walks up he says thrill me again to the police officers that are there on the scene and the cop doesn't really say anything but he does sort of reveal johnny and we this is where we do see the face like fully split wide open and where the slugs kind of popped out of. Ew. Yeah. So Tom then sort of like patrolling the area,

he walks around behind the sorority house and asks some people hanging out back there, like, what is that guest house back there? And they explain that that's the sorority mother's house. Like, that's where she lives, right? We then get a black and white flashback, which black and white to me means 1959, right? Of someone with a shovel burying a body.

That's like sort of in a tarp. That's all we get. So Tom is clearly like, we're getting more about what happened that night. If that makes sense, he's looking haunted at this point, I feel like. And there's like,

as he's staring at the like split open head he's like said look like an axe could have done that and like one of the other detectives is like oh man you still on this axe thing like i feel like he gives him a hard time about it and it's like yeah he's traumatized by that well it clearly it clearly has affected him yes tom is like having trouble dealing with the trauma that he this is why everyone should go to therapy and why I think yeah I mean therapy is great I've had a therapist for a long long time and it's done wonders for me therapy's great so they zip up Johnny in the body bag and then they sort of take him away we then sort of crossfade into someone holding a newspaper in front of the

campus and it just says you know headless corpse found in front of, I think it says Kappa Delta sorority house, that sort of thing. And then you see JC and Chris walking down the street and they run into the Bradster and they turn around and just try and avoid him. They don't want, they don't want to deal with him. Right. They turn around and try to walk through the way and then other like betas walk up. So they're trapped by the betas.

Right. And Brad is like pissed off and he assumes that they planted the corpse outside of Kappa Delta for their pledge prank and he's like clearly upset that it was the wrong house it was supposed to go to some other fraternity's house not a sorority house right so JC sort of cuts

off Brad as he's yelling and he's like causing a scene so people are walking over to see him and he's clearly like well JC just interrupts him and is like hey, we didn't even do it. We chickened out and JC like sort of tells him off and then starts to go away. Right. JC starts to walk away. In fact, he even says, why don't you go back to practice goose stepping, which is another Nazi nod. Anyway. Oh, I don't think I've mentioned this, but J.C. can't walk. He has like crutches.

So he like walks with crutches, but he can't watch walk without the aid of crutches. Yeah. This is important because as he's walking away, Brad kicks one of the crutches and he falls to the ground because they really want you to hate Brad. Like up to this point, you were like, man, Brad's a handsome guy. I love that blonde hair. He's looking great. At this point, you should hate him. if up to this point you were like man Brad's a handsome like guy I love that blonde hair he's looking great at this point you should hate him and Cindy sees this and Cindy also like

there's a part where JC yells like that whole thing like was your idea anyways and and Cindy overhears that too and so she's now pissed at Brad and I think she's also pissed at Brad because he kicked out JC's crutches like that's a really like that one two one two punch of like, my boyfriend's a real piece of shit.

Yeah. Which she I'm sure she already knew. But he's like a Himmler level asshole is where he is on the Nazi scale. Right. So Chris rushes over to help J.C. up. And then it cuts back to like Cindy, like getting a fake apology from Brad. And she does this like fishing reel flick off thing where like one hand's doing the fishing reel on the other hand slowly flicking him off. And then because it's the 80s the crowd that has gathered around sort of like slow claps. Which I loved. I was like all right.

All right. Cool. Cool. Cool. And then Brad of course puts on his what I'm assuming are SS sunglasses and then the rest of the betas walk away. And then Cindy goes over and apologizes to both JC and Chris. And they do explain to Cindy that they really didn't do it like they did. They were going to try, but they chickened out and they didn't do it.

And she seems to believe them. But because it's the first time that Cindy has met Chris, because remember JC has talked to her, but Chris never developed the guts to do that. JC introduces Cindy to Chris at this moment. And as JC is going to like say their names, he then sees us like police, another detective.

It's not Tom Atkins, but I think his name is actually officer Landis, which is another nod to other horror directors. And he says their names. He's like, Chris and JC, come with me. And then we cut to the police station. OK. And we're in like a law and order, like interrogation room.

JC are on one side of the table. Tom Atkins walks in, sits down. And then there's Mr. Minor, who is at the end of the table tom adkins walk walk walks in sits down and then there's mr minor who is at the end of the table and uh tom adkins explains that mr minor is sort of the medical wing campus janitor and he can place them at the scene of the crime and jc is like no it wasn't us we weren't there we don't care anything this. Like we would never do anything like this. And Chris just like fesses up. He's like, no, it was us.

We were there. We let him out. But we he touched us and it was freaky. So we just ran away. Right. And Mr. Miner should be able to attest to that. And I hate to mention this, but because it's the 80s, they treat Mr. Miner very poorly as a stereotypical Asian person.

Yeah, they do. It's real bad. I honestly didn't like even put it in my notes, but I do feel like we should say something about it because it's real bad. Because Tom Atkins says that they were running away screaming like banshees, which they were. But then that becomes the only thing Mr mr minor says every time you see him and it's said in a very like stereotypical bad like asian way it's really gross but it's one of those things that you would see in 80s movies and people were like oh this is clearly fine to treat people this way and it's not yeah yep so it's one of those things you wouldn't see now but you do

see then and i apologize for having said this was the best movie ever made at this point okay so we then cut to the morgue and we do see one of the CSI guys actually it was the guy who was eating a donut with gloves on when they were initially at the scene of the crime he's now at the morgue he's probably the coroner

now that I think about it and we see the grad student lying on like the slab that you would then do an autopsy on and the coroner sort of like in between the camera and us so he can't see the guy on the slab and he's like doing some paperwork or whatever and then that like grad student zombie sits up and then walks out of the room doesn't mess with the corner just walks out of the room and then walks out of the room doesn't mess with the corner just walks out of the room and then walks out of the police station which you would think like because this dude is like well

he looks like he's naked he's very bloody and he's just walking out of a police station and you would think someone would like stop him or be like hey that that shouldn't be a thing but no one does in fact someone they do show you a scene of someone walking past him and he's like how you doing okay okay it's wild okay and then

we i think they show like the outside of the house mother's cabin and then we see slugs yes we see the slugs like slithering in i believe this is the one where you can clearly see it being pulled on a string. Okay, got it. There is one shot that it's like egregious. You're like, oh, that's fishing line. I can see the fishing line right there. But anyway, so they're being pulled towards her house. And it's just the front of her yard.

Right. And then we cut to inside the sorority house. The phone rings and it's Brad. So the sister who answers gets Cindy and she comes to the phone and she sort of just tells him she doesn't want to talk to him right now. They don't officially break up, but that she's sort of over it for the moment. And he's like, well, I shouldn't have dated a fucking psych major anyway. Like, it's like that sort of vibe.

He's also drinking a martini. Yeah. This is also the scene where he's wearing the Nazi T-shirt. That's incredible. He like shakes a little drink and makes himself a martini it really made me laugh yeah he's a he's a bad guy right so we then cut to a girl who's like in the same sorority house but she's like in the common room and she's reading probably studying honestly because she's in college and you hear sort of a scratching like a rustling at the door that's in the room probably to the backyard and she walks over to it and it's like building all this tension building all this tension she opens the door and it's the cat and

she the cat jumps into her arms right it's the very classic not jump scare right it jumps into her arms and you see that wait is this the reveal where the cat has like like no eye sockets yeah and there's a worm hanging out of one of the eye sockets and it's like it's clear the cat has been slugified yes like

it's brain is like falling out of its face yeah and Emily I'm so sorry I had to bring that up it happens in the movie I have five cats too I love all my kitties but like like falling out of its face. Yeah. Yeah. And Emily, I'm so sorry. I had to bring that up. It happens in the movie. I have five cats too.

I love all my kitties, but like they do scare me. What? Like I was watching TV in my bed. Like I do the other night. And one of my cats jumped up right next to my face. And I yelled out loud. Like that was a jump scare. Yeah.

It's very scary. Like they're very quiet when they want to be. And they always hate you yeah our smallest lightest cat who can appear out of nowhere also likes to sniff closed eyeballs so like yes like whiskers on my eye all of a sudden I'm like she's silent yeah we have to do you let them

cat stay in your room when you're sleeping yes yeah I can't do that because they they will cats stay in your room when you're sleeping? Yes. Yeah, I can't do that because they will get right in your face at like 2 a.m. and be like, and you're like, oh my God, peaches. Stop. Yeah, they're annoying. Peaches is my loudest cat. Like she will get a toy in her mouth. We have like these catnip mice and she'll get one of them in her mouth and she will

literally go. And it's so loud. One of our cats, when she has a toy in her mouth, walks around screaming about it. Just being like, look what I have. She's just like so fucking jazzed about it. It's hilarious. I love it. It's my favorite, but not at 2 a.m. in front of my face.

Anyway, so we cut back to Tom Adkins house. He's going over old case files. Some might say about 27 years old. And he's very much drinking, sort of thinking about Pam, sort of reliving the night. And the phone rings. And guess what he says when he answers it? Thrill me. Thrill me, baby.

Absolutely. So he says, thrill me. And it cuts to Tom just standing over the grad student's headless body. And you do see slugs squirming down the hallway but they don't i don't think they see them they don't seem to notice yeah and then we cut to jc and chris at their dorm and they hear a knock at the door and chris goes to answer it and it's cindy and chris like stumbles all over his words like trying to make up like some story about what they were doing i don't know he's like talking about as if oprah walked into the room oh yeah yeah it's like oprah walked in and she was like do you want a taste of

the rockies but it wasn't that why did i remember she had coors light i don't know anyway so anyway so well he invites her in but she's like let's go for a walk so all three of them sort of go for a walk and it cuts to them outside and she's explaining what happened with the cat. Right. Because it's like the house cat and it's called Gordon. It's named after someone on the production team. I can't remember who it was, but they named it after him. And they're talking about how like she's like the cat was dead.

We buried it. I don't know how it came back. Like it's crazy. JC thinks she's going crazy. And of course, Chris comforts her because you know he's very attracted to her so when Chris starts to comfort her JC being

the world's best wingman sees that his job is done and then says I'm gonna go to the bathroom I'll see you guys later so he leaves and just leaves them alone and it like it literally cuts to JC walking away and he's like i mean she's dumb as she's crazier than crazy but like have fun buddy like it's it's wild this movie

does not treat women well and i am i was gonna say a great a great friend but not great to women yeah so i should probably apologize again for calling this the best movie ever made. It happens with media from, you know, all over. Yeah. Not even just the 80s. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Women have been treated bad in movies since, I don't know, Gone with the Wind. Yeah.

Red Butler's an asshole. I mean, I like that story, but he's an asshole. All right. So cut back to Chris and Cindy walking. And we see that someone's like clearly following them. And we do see JC in a bathroom stall. So he did go to the bathroom, but he's not going to the bathroom. He's like writing on the wall.

As he walked in, though, we did see Mr. Minor, the Asian-American fellow who they treat very poorly in this movie. We do see a zombie version of him walking down the hallway as JC goes in. a zombie version of him walking down the hallway as jc goes in so as we see as we see jc in the stall we hear the bathroom door open and then we hear what sounds like a head being ripped apart slugs fall into the floor and then slugs screaming so naturally yeah so we don't see any of that but jc does like okay this is not good and he stops what he's doing which the graffiti he was doing and he opens the stall door and we see Mr. Minor with his head literally like split open

and we do see slugs like scurrying about on the floor and of course JC freaks out and he like closes the stall door but he looks down and sees like a matchbook like one of those flippy matchbook things on the floor and he reaches down to grab it. A slug goes right by his hand and he freaks out again

but he eventually does build his courage back up, grabs the matchbook and lights the whole matchbook on fire. Smart. Yeah. And as he's putting the matchbook on the floor, one of the slugs like jumps at it and then it shows that like they're flammable. They catch on fire and that slug melts away, right?

Okay. There it is. But there's a shitload more slugs in the bathroom so all the matches too so fuck yeah yeah so he only had that one shot and now he's fucked so he does like yell for help but he realizes that it's just him and he's in charge of getting him out of that room because no one else can hear him so he opens the bathroom stall door he falls to the floor and starts to sort of army crawl towards the door and we see the shot of the slug going towards him and then it cuts to cindy and chris at the front door of their dorm and cindy invites chris to go to the formal with her tomorrow night and chris is like shocked but of course he's like thrilled um but she doesn't

she didn't break up with brad i'm just gonna say that she never broke up with brad like that nothing official has happened with brad yet anyway and he does bring that up and she doesn't even talk about it he's like aren't you with brad and she's like why don't we just go to the formal together anyway okay uh and then it cuts to like a little bit further back like it reveals the person who is following them as they walked away was tom atkins sort of overhearing their conversation and he says zombies exploding heads creepy crawlies and a date to the formal this is a classic spanky spanky which like this is the first time yes this is classic spanky is what he. This is the first time he refers to Chris as Spanky.

And he later refers to JC as Alfalfa from the Little Rascals. But that is not established anywhere. No. You just sort of have to know that that's what he's referencing? Through me. I was confused. I was like, what? Me too.

I looked it up. I had to look it up because I was like, why would he call him Spanky? None of that makes sense to me. Because Little Rascals is like Maybe our parents generation I don't know they redid it They redid it in the 90s I guess that's True but I didn't I was I didn't

See that but yeah Not top of mind for me It was not top of mind right So we cut to inside Tom's house Or what I assume is Tom's house and he's Pouring Chris or Spanky a drink. I would call this grooming behavior. But Tom asked Chris if he had like a high school sweetheart.

And Chris says, of course, yes, but he blew it with her. And now she doesn't want to talk to him. Do you ever watch her get murdered by an ax man? Emily, he immediately high roads her. Do you guys ever have like that friend or you're like hey man I did this really cool thing And they're like man I've done this really cooler thing Like Tom Atkins He like one ups him

Just asking a question so you can get the answer that leads to the thing you want to talk about Emily it's almost Like Tom was not listening to his response He was just waiting for his turn To mention his axe murdered Ex-girlfriend But he does so he goes into like how he had a high school sweetheart but they broke up when he became

a cop and then two weeks after he started his job he then came on to Pam's murder scene and he talks about like how Pam was all over the car all over the road all in the woods and we do see in the

scene that we saw earlier in that flashback where we're seeing like old tom atkins and his young cop gear we do see that the axe murder is like hacking over and over and over and over again like it wasn't just a one hit anyway and then it cuts back to tom and he says but that's not the fun part the fun part's what happens next oh no and Chris is like I think understandably like scared and like very like I don't want to be here anymore and I think he doesn't really yeah I think it he's like

he realizes he's like you should never go with a cop to a second location you're not required to go to and I think he's like realizing that in this moment you really should never go anywhere alone with a stranger honestly that's also true. Right. But so Tom goes on to explain that he found the murderer

and that he got his revenge with his 12 gauge shotgun. And then Chris, obviously uncomfortable, is like, because Tom is like fully confessing to a murderer. I'll say it is like a Dexter-esque kind of murderer because he killed

a murderer right but Tom continues that he wrapped his body in plastic and buried him in a vacant lot but it's no longer a vacant lot it's the house mother's house sorority right yeah all circles back yes it all does circle back so Chris squirming ask if there's any point to the story.

And then Tom calling him spanky again for no reason, says that this is exactly what he is trying to find out. So he's like trying to get to the bottom of it, right? What's the connection? Yeah. And I think that's why he was going over the case files, right? Anyway, so it cuts back to the house mother's cabin and she's watching plan nine or yeah plan nine from outer space which is like a classic b movie and then she hears a thump she looks over and then doesn't hear it again so she then looks back at her tv and then we hear thump thump thump just louder and louder and louder and then we see the floor start to move

and then we see an axe go through the floor and then we see it is very much the axe murderer coming back to life coming out of her floor but he looks more like the crypt keeper from Tales from the Crypt because his flesh is all like exactly so he comes up she is understandably frozen

in fear he lifts his axe and he swings it down and you actually do see it hit her face and start to split her face. Yeah. Okay. This is one of the

gorier moments of the movie. But it cuts to Tom Atkins' house. The phone rings and he then says, what, ladies? Thrill me. Thrill me. Thrill me.

Every time. You don't hear what the caller says. Imagine. Thrill me. It's so annoying Every time. You don't hear what the caller says. Imagine. Thrill me. It's so annoying. Yeah. I would do whatever. I mean, honestly, if I had the confidence, I would do it every time.

Thrill me. Oh, I'm sorry, mom. Yeah. Can I call you back? I'm recording a podcast. So like we don't see what the caller says, but we do see Tom Atkins grab his jacket and his 12 gauge. And then we cut to tom in his car and

he's radioing asking for backup right we then cut to the police cars like forming up behind tom's car and they're racing to the sorority mother's house tom jumps out tells the other cops to keep searching the neighborhood and they drive on as he walks up to the house mother's house another cop comes out and says some like pretty tasteless remark about like if they had a stretcher for every body part it would take all day to remove the mother he like chuckles to himself too it's yeah very like yeah he's like this is a hilarious joke although one of my best friends runs the mental health like crisis response team in town and like is the person you call when like someone has a hostage situation he's like the guy who goes and negotiates

with that person he's actually my co-host on the podcast holy shit and he has a very dark sense of humor because of it yeah maybe it does it's a coping it's a way to cope for sure people who deal with that level of trauma I think like has a job we'll give this guy a pass then

yeah it's still gross though like there are plenty of jokes Mikey has made where I'm like that's terrible and I'm cutting it from the podcast I don't give this guy a pass then. It's still gross, though. Like, there are plenty of jokes Mikey has made where I'm like, that's terrible. And I'm cutting it from the podcast. But they are sort of funny. OK, but Tom sort of ignores that. And also it comes out that when they opened the door to investigate, a dog ran out and they couldn't find the dog. It just ran away. Right.

And this dog is going to be pretty normal looking totally right absolutely and it's going to look just like a dog it's going to look pretty terrible i think you saw it and your patreon members have probably already seen it depending upon when you drop the patreon.com slash tstw that's right yeah check it out check it out but yeah so they've already seen it. It does look terrible. Yeah. So we cut to the cop car that he told to continue searching the neighborhood. And they are doing just that. He's got the spotlight. He's shining it for about a minute and then calls it quits.

He's like, this is dumb. We're not going to find it. And he turns to the guy who's driving the car and says, let's go. Immediately when he says, let's drive away, the cryptkeeper with an axe comes and starts to swing it at them. The guy driving does see it all happen, though, and floors it. And the guy swinging the axe misses and hits sort of the back of their car and they drive away. But it cuts to Tom and they're overhearing those police

officers just drove away calling him like, hey, we found him. We know where he is. We're chasing him. So they all start chasing him. This is one of my favorite shots because it's like 80s action. And it's like an 80s action star who's like 60, like fully 60 years old. And he like jumps a fence and like lands with his shotgun and you can tell it hurt his hip. Like you just know it hurt. Like old man hurt. And he cocks his shotgun. And they're like in an alley, right? And they're like in an alley.

Right. And as the zombie, the axe murdering zombie sort of turns around, all the cops start shooting at him. And it like is blowing out his chest. But he still like smiles at them after it. It's very it's sort of creepy because it's like the Crypt Keeper, but smiling. And then Tom Atkins, who has already racked his shotgun, says, I already killed you once, you son of a bitch. And then he shoots it. Its head explodes. And then slugs go everywhere.

They land on the ground. And then they all go through like they run past the cops by their feet. And the cops don't really know what the slugs are like. They have no idea. So like, can't be good, though. No, I mean, no, it cannot be good. They just came out of a dead man's head right zombie head right and they just like let them go away it seems concerned by the slugs

as much as they should be yeah they definitely should be yeah so it does sort of crossfade to the next day and we see chris getting ready like he's getting back to the dorm. I assume like renting his tux for the formal. And he sees two guys walking out of the dorm. He's like, hey, have you seen JC? I haven't seen him since last night. And they're like, we haven't seen him since you left with him and Cindy. We haven't seen him since then. And then it cuts to that evening.

And this is like a montage scene of all the women getting ready, all the men getting ready. But because it's the 80s, of course, all the women are naked getting ready and all the men are almost fully clothed. Like it's like naked women in a shower, men putting on a cummerbund, which is not equivalent levels of nudity. Right. Anyway. So also while it's like cutting between those two, like getting ready for the formal montage,

you see slugs rushing towards places. Right. It's just like quick cuts of slugs and it cuts to Chris looking real sharp in his dorm. And then we see a tape recorder on JC's desk with a note under it that says, like, listen, and like an arrow to the tape recorder. So he goes and grabs the tape recorder and listens to it. And this is like, I get sort of emotional at this moment

because it's JC fully like talking to him having recorded it. And he says like a slug got inside me. It got in through my mouth. I can feel it taking over my brain. I don't have a pulse or a heartbeat. I think I'm dead. Chris JC tells Chris how he killed one with fire and that he's going to go to the furnace

room of the dorm to see if he can like prevent the eggs that they're laying in his brain from getting out and infecting other people. Oh my God. It's really sweet. Like I, like there are moments in this movie where I like get like teared up. I'm a very emotional person. I apologize.

It's very sad. And he literally says, I love you. Good luck with Cindy. Oh my God. It's so sweet. I know. JC is the hero. The hero. I know. very sad and he literally says I love you good luck with Cindy oh my god it's so sweet I know JC is the hero the hero of this film JC is the best in my head I'm like

well obviously they're gonna find some way to like reverse this and he'll be back and good as ever or like Sean of the dead it where like at the end of the movie his best friend is still a zombie but they're still friends right yeah but no so Chris immediately

runs down to the furnace room and you do he does sort of find JC's body but it does show that he was able to kill all of the slugs that were coming out so he is successful in saving the slugs that were in his brain from like killing other people but he is fully

dead JC rest that were in his brain from like killing other people but he is fully dead jesus yeah jc rest in peace i know rest in peace jc gone but not forgotten but we cut to the betas who have fully forgotten about jc and they're getting on a bus to go to the formal and you see two betas talking and one's like hey where's brad and the other one's like he's not going he's pissed that uh cindy broke up with him or won't go with him to the formal and then it cuts to brad outside cindy's sorority drinking like fully drunk drinking and then he like throws the i don't know jack daniels or whatever into her yard calling her a bitch as he throws it because you know he's a classy dude and as he does that a slug sort of goes between his

feet and he sees it he looks down and he like crouches down to like where it went into the grass and then you see the house mother's dog walking up to him and then he looks at the dog and says did you see that fully expecting the dog to answer probably because he's drunk and the dog looks up and you see

a slug go from the dog's mouth into his mouth. Ew! That's so gross. Yeah. So we cut back to the bus full of betas heading to the formal. They've left. One of them stands up and yells,

We're going to get done, dudes! Because, I guess, why not? It was the 80s and things were terrible. And then we cut to Tom in his house, listening to some easy listening, trying to forget the zombies who head has just exploded in the slugs that left it. And then we hear like hissing from the kitchen. And then we hear a knock knock at the door. Tom angrily gets up, goes to the door, rips duct tape from around the door like jam.

Oh, my God. He was he trying to kill himself? I didn't catch this. Sammy. I didn't. We will get to it. I didn't catch that. We will get to it.

I was like, why does he have tape around the door? So he pulls the duct tape off and he opens the door and it's Spanky or Chris as we know him because that's his name in the movie. And then Chris crying says to him that they got alfalfa, which is the first time JC has ever called alfalfa in the movie. Weird. It's so wild to me that in this moment, Chris would have like the ability to think he calls me spanky. So he must thank my friend who he's met once. We've never had this conversation. And I'm fully having this emotional meltdown, but I'm going to call him Alfalfa. It's nuts.

It's nuts. And we're not friends. No. No. But he does explain what JC explained to him in the tape. Good. Okay. Like lay eggs in your brain.

They get in through your mouth and then you walk around while they incubate. And then we cut to. That fucking nasty it is it is real gross and tom is not a fan either so he we cut to his kitchen you see him holster his pistol put on his jacket we see him then close the oven door and turn the oven gas off oh so yes sammy he was fully trying to end his life part of me was was set on like the fire killing the slugs so my brain was like well he must have preemptively been trying to kill some slugs and only after you re-mentioned the tape on the door i was like oh jesus christ he was trying to kill himself yeah that's fucking dark yes very sad it is nuts yeah so we cut back to the beta bus and everyone's drinking and like throwing alcohol bottles around and the bus driver

turns around and says hey guys calm down or i'm stopping the bus and as he turns back around we see what very much looks like a like teddy ruxpin dog but with his face missing just standing in the road the bus driver swerves to miss it and you hear an accident sound we don't actually see it and it cuts to the police station where Tom and Spanky or Chris as we know him are talking to I don't know what they

call him but like the requisition officer he's like the guy you check out guns from yeah okay he's like the gun librarian at the police station I don't know I think call that person i think that's that's right i already thought yeah you're welcome this is sort of a cameo this guy who plays the gun the gun librarian for lack of the actual term he is in gremlins and gremlins too okay yeah so he tom asks for your basic garden variety flamethrower which they actually happen to have so the guy from gremlins 2 goes and gets the flamethrower and puts it down.

And he's behind like a grate, like he's like fenced in back there. And he's like, just give me the paperwork and I'll give you the flamethrower. And then Tom uses his shotgun and points it at him and says, well, we're going to have a problem with the paperwork or something like that. And then it cuts to the bus crash scene where the house mother's dog is walking up to the now

like fully crashed bus and he climbs in the bus and then we cut to the sorority house there's a knocking at the door and a girl answers but it's zombie brad at the door and she even makes like a comment like brad what are you doing as if brad i know Like why would you show up looking like a zombie? Get yourself together, Brad. You're so ridiculous. Anyway, so she calls for Cindy because she's like, I'm not dealing with Brad on his prettiest of days. I'm definitely not dealing with Brad on his zombiest of days. So Cindy comes up and takes him and they sit down on their sort of front. Which he's like fully looks like a zombie and nobody notices.

She grabs him by the hand and is like, listen brad oh my god yes and while they're doing this it cuts back to the bus and you see like zombie fists like breaking out and they're like it's just the beta guys who are now full zombies like getting out of the bus and walking down the street fully like they're about to start the thriller music video so we cut to bradster and cindy on the like the front stoop if you will of the sorority house and she's doing that very 80s thing where she like turns away from him but is talking to him and he's like behind her and she's oh yeah she even says and this is what drives me crazy i feel like she was not breaking up with brad but like backburnering br Brad so she could go on one date with Chris.

Because she's like, it doesn't mean that things are over forever. I just need a little time. Like it's that sort of a thing. She might also be fully breaking up with him. It doesn't like confrontation. I'm not judging Cindy's methods. I'm just saying that there's probably a more healthy way of dealing with this. But she's young.

I get it. It's fine. way of dealing with this but she's young i get it it's fine anyway while she's having this conversation you see brad's like head but it's clearly on like some sort of conveyor belt because slugs keep falling out of his mouth like bloop like it's like a nickelodeon show like it's very like low budget silly and i fully love it you also see them like land on the ground and skitter away which to me is very funny and then it cuts to further back and i mean sorry it actually cuts to cindy like turning around and then you see like real brad with a slug like at the edge of his mouth about to jump into hers

and as he's leaning in you hear someone say cindy get away from it. And then Cindy turns and you see Tom shoot him in the head and his head splits apart. That's when you actually do see the bullet hit that the head splits apart and slugs start pouring out of it. And Chris is right there with the flamethrower to like burn up all the slugs. Yeah. So like his slugs don't get away either, except for the ones that were getting out during the conversation. OK. Yeah. So like his slugs don't get away either, except for the ones that were getting out during the conversation. OK, I forgot to mention the guy from Gremlins 2, the police station gun librarian. He did mention that the pilot light on the flamethrower will go out for like plot based reasons. OK, great. Thank you. Thank you. Gun librarian.

Yes. The guy from Gremlins and Gremlins 2. So Tom hands the 12 gauge shotgun to Chris and he runs inside the sorority house. And one of the girls is like, what are you doing, old man? I'm going to call the police. And he's like, you do that. Like, please call the police. Like he's like trying to get them to call the cops. And he is like trying to hold down the main level of the house because he knows they're like under attack. And then it cuts back to Chris and

Cindy and he's like apologizing to Cindy for like murdering her boyfriend and then burning him and then she's like very like stoically stunned faced and he like hands her the 12 gauge shotgun and says hold this. No she gets the flamethrower. She doesn't so okay in this shot he

hands her the shotgun. He has the flamethrower on his back it then cuts to inside the sorority house tom sort of setting up defenses and then cuts to the zombie betas walking to the house and then it cuts to chris and cindy and she's wearing the flamethrower just like and he's holding the shot continuity it's like a continuity thing yeah it's wild it is great oh Oh, sorry, but before it cuts to Chris and Cindy

where they've switched weapons, it does cut to Tom looking out the window and again, you have seen this and the Patreon people have seen this because it was in the trailer

and this is where Tom says, well, ladies, I've got some bad news for you. The good news, or some good news and some bad news for you. The good news is your dates are here

and then one girl goes, what's the bad news? And he news and some bad news for you the good news is your dates are here and then one girl goes what's the bad news and he says they're dead classic classic classic 80s line yeah we're having a good time this is where we cut yeah well they're having a laugh this man just moments after attempting suicide just feeling really good moments after trying to complete suicide he literally is in their house as an old man none of them know who he is he is an armed old man in a sorority house we all feel good about millions of red flags going off everywhere we all feel good about it right and if you know anything about tom atkins in movies and like the women they usually pair him with you're like oh he should not be around like he should not be allowed within like a hundred yards of a college campus anyway so it cuts to chris and cindy outside and

they are very much like chris is blasting the zombie betas with the shotgun and then she quickly burns them so it like kills the slugs right and then we cut back to inside the house and they're breaking inside the house and tom is shooting them with the pistol and he literally as one of the girls is still getting ready for the formal she has like an aqua net like hairspray in her hand he takes it takes his cigarette and uses it to make a flamethrower and burns up all the slugs that fell out of the shot it's perfect awesome i do love tom atkins he is amazing so we're sort of cutting back and forth a little bit between like what's going on outside what's going on inside outside they're fighting off all the zombies outside and some are getting inside tom's dealing with those tom sort of gets his gun

knocked out of his hand and they're like he's like wrestling with one of them and he's like fighting and fighting and he looks up in the room that he's in and he sees the sorority like photo on the wall from 1959 and it like shows all of the girls that were in the sorority and then you see pam and it zooms in on pam and he like like like at the grinch whose heart grew three sizes he like grew the will to live so he like grabs the gun and then fights his way in the room and like kills all of the zombies that are in there and of course outside Chris and Cindy more or

less do the same thing and Chris and Cindy as we cut to them outside doing that they sort of get cornered in like this garden shed area and like they're trying to like kill all the zombies and one of them grabs through like the shed.

He grabs Chris and pulls him out. And then Cindy shoves the flamethrower like right in his face and burns him up. So it saves Chris. She backs up and then another zombie grabs her from the other side and pulls her out. And as guys, this is next level ridiculous. As she's like fighting him off, fighting him off. He grabs the lawnmower that's in the garden shed, pulls it like three times until it starts.

And then as it starts, he's like, get off of him. And he, she rolls and the head is exposed of the zombie and she rolls out of the way clearly. And then Chris lawnmowers, the guy's face. Chef's kiss,

like salt bae. It's so, it's so good the effect is so funny too because it's like I think they literally just like painted on the frame like it it looks I was like this is this looks so oh you mean the blood yeah it looks like it's painted on the frame so the way that oh that's funny the way they do

it is they do show the lawnmower and it does have a blade on it and then as he pushes it towards him it shows like a camera view from like behind where the blade would be on a on a like lawnmower but it looks more like a air conditioning vent with like a fan and it just like gets closer to his face and then i think they do paint blood on the screen yeah so we cut back to tom there are like a bunch of dead zombie zombies all around him and so we we see that he is fine.

We cut back to Chris and Cindy outside and they see slugs rushing towards the basement. And Chris is like, that's weird. What's in the basement. And Cindy's like storage boxes, nothing really. There's a science project.

Oh my God. It's the brain. I mean, there's the brains. I mean, there's like some regular stored stuff and a bunch of human brains. Oh, fuck. That's right.

Human brains. Oh shit, damn it, Heather. I mean, she's not a named character, but that's my sister's name. So that's what I usually yell.

So we cut to Chris and Cindy walking through the house, literally yelling at everyone to leave. And the girls, like they're very fine to just leave because some crazy shit's going down. So Chris and Cindy make their way into the basement. They find Tom, who already knows what the slugs are doing. And he knows enough about the slugs. And we know this because he has duct tape over his mouth.

Which is so smart. And why haven't people been doing this the whole time? Yeah. I don't know. But he threw the duct tape. It's like, no, no is like no no no get out of here and we see that he is like splashing gas all over the basement floor and then like we see i think it's cindy that has a flashlight and she illuminates the corner where i guess the brains

were and like it's a wall full of slugs like just like creepy crawling it's it's pretty gross now chris tries to blast the slugs on the wall with the flamethrower, but the pilot light went out. So a slug at that moment lunges towards Tom and he grabs it with his hand out of the air and says, don't you even think about it, you son of a bitch. Oh my God, amazing. And then he drops it and it runs back to the pile like it's been scolded by his father. It's very funny so tom realizing the flamethrower is out of commission he grabs the gas can again and starts like sprinkling on the floor and starts counting down from 20 and as he does

chris and cindy like start to walk out of the basement and as he gets to like 17 18 chris looks at him him and tom lock eyes tom winks and chris nods in acknowledgement of the sacrifice that tom is about to make so tom continues counting down pouring gas in the basement cut to chris and cindy running out of the house and they are now doing the countdown with sort of you know in conjunction with tom doing the countdown they get outside it cuts back to tom at five four three two and the slugs that are in the corner start to jump towards him this is the part i get really emotional too so it cuts to chris outside i'm like about to cry it cuts to chris outside he says chris says one and then says detective detective, thrill me. And then the house explodes.

It's like very touching. So I'm like teary eyed. Okay. Excuse me. So it blows up like way more than a house with gasoline in the basement will blow up. Like there's, it's like dynamite levels of blow up. It doesn't like blow up the whole house but the whole house is on fire we

see police arriving we see like Chris and Cindy sort of holding each other and she says nice tux they kiss and then you would think like that's the movie and I think this is maybe where

it deviates from the theatrical cut because we cut to a burnt Tom Adkins walking down the street, cigarette still lit, and he falls down dead. His head explodes. Slugs shoot out of it. We follow those slugs as they scurry under a gate. The camera pans up to reveal that it is crest ridge cemetery the camera continues to pan over to a headstone and we see like a spotlight but looks sort of like a police spotlight but but from like a helicopter on like the headstone and then it searches around it doesn't find anything and the spotlight goes out the camera pans up and we see the alien ship

from before and other spotlights start to go out and search for I guess slugs or slug sign or whatever you call it and that's the movie oh my Sammy did you see that ending? was that the ending you saw?

did you watch it on Amazon? I think that's the only one that's available to rent on Amazon. But I do think the theatrical cut is different and doesn't have that. Paige, who is also one of our co-hosts, she is the one that usually takes us through it. And she did, when we did the episode on it,

she had seen both, I think. So she called out the differences. And I vaguely remember that being as one of the differences. Oh my God. But that is Night of the Creeps. That was way more fun than just the trailer, I feel like, shows. It's a really fun movie.

I mean, we laughed. We cried. I loved it. It really is the best of it. Yeah. I loved it. Mostly because of the detective. Mostly because of his lines that are completely nonsensical.

Oh, yeah. yeah like he introduces himself as Bullwinkle the moose so great I love when flamethrowers enter the plot of any movie like fuck yeah I mean like the best horror movies use them Night of the Creeps

the thing like they are like in every great horror movie property yeah yep oh my god that was riveting Todd thank you so much loved it

this is Tom Atkins favorite movie he's ever done yes for good reason for good reason yeah it is truly amazing oh my god I feel like the ending that little like they were probably hoping

for a sequel right there isn't a sequel to this so the mere idea that there could be it was five million dollars to make and it made five500,000. They're not making more. I don't think there's going to be another one.

Unless Tom can self-finance it, I don't think it's going to happen. I do want to see that alien origin movie though. Thank you. Yes. And those babies, when I tell you they look like babies, just know they look like babies but like terrible like they're six foot tall they're like wrinkly it looks scary like they're gooch

like in nature but it's also like their faces don't move it was my favorite part about them is that they're kind of just like as if they're just masks and so there's a part where it like zooms in on one of their faces. And it's, I think, supposed to be like a menacing moment, a menacing expression.

But I'm like, I guess I can't say for sure because that's what that's all of their expressions. It's just one expression. There's only one option. I feel like I could watch this movie. I think you could. You absolutely could. I feel like I could watch this movie. It sounds like a lot of fun this is a

good one it was very very fun I was I was very delighted I had a great time watching this so thank you for picking it Todd what a great choice thank you for picking it Todd I honestly only picked it because you sent me a list of movies you had done and the deal I made with myself when I agreed

to sort of come on was that I would only do a scary movie if it was like one that meant something to me, like the ritual, the invitation, both of those movies, just because of like past traumas in my own life, like really sort of spoke to me, even though they were very scary and creepy.

I considered watching one of those again. And then I saw that you had done both of those. And I was like, okay, well, what, what, what have people requested?

And you sent me that list too. And I saw night of the creeps and I was like, Oh, well that people requested and you sent me that list too and I saw Night of the Creeps and I was like oh well that's done done so I'm doing that one yeah this was a fun one too it was like yeah I had a good time which is not always the case you're welcome it's also hard to recreate like kind of like a funny horror movie you know what I mean because a lot of that is in the moment. You know what I mean? Retelling it, it's difficult. So seriously.

So I didn't think it would be that difficult. And then I was watching through it this morning and like making notes and I was like, Oh shit, I'm going to sound like an insane person in this, in this recap. And then like, that's why I took like, I,

I did like a, a number count on how many words I wrote. 6, 6060 words you have to make sure like you say certain things to set up things that pay off later so like yeah like I was I tried my best it's harder than people think it's harder than

people think it's harder than you think this is why we make Paige on our podcast do the outlines and also she's like a comic who lives in LA so like she's like really good at making things funny and Mikey and I are just good at like being silly and I of course

don't like horror movies so like I'm there to be like no I fucking hated this movie because it's great well and speaking of so we've mentioned it but Todd tell people a little bit about the horror virgin and where they can check you guys out so yeah this is the horror virgin on every podcast app we're on all social media as horror virgin and it really is just it started four years ago as three friends one of which

hated horror movies and two of which wanted to torture me specifically and we've actually I'm the only original member of the podcast so if you you go to listen to them, listen to the newer episodes first before you go back to the old episodes, because you'll be like, huh, Paige sounds different on this episode. And it's because it's a fully different person. But yeah, so and Mikey is he joined about 30 episodes in and Paige joined about one hundred and twenty two episodes. But we all started this podcast four years ago in various forms and then we also started another podcast where we do more or less the same thing but with romantic comedies called so if you like romance and romantic comedies check out romancing the pod oh that's great i love that something for everyone yeah right ah well yeah thank you so much for coming

on this this has been very fun treat thank you so much for having me and I do apologize this is like a long episode for you guys this is great no this is two hours this is great yeah and we usually close out with a voice was there a voice in this that we can do kind of not really I feel like we like. We can just say thrill me. Thrill me. Yeah. I mean, I think. Thrill me. I was going to say, obviously. Obviously that. Okay.

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