Too Scary; Didn't Watch - NIGHT SWIM

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Demonic pool water, militant marco polo rule-following, and baseball super powers, we're recapping the perfectly ridiculous NIGHT SWIM! Join us as we discover Tim's next side gig - pool demon...ologist!TrailerMovie stats @ 14:30Recap @ 26:10Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Hemley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we did it, we made it, we are here. Welcome to El Chela.
Starting point is 00:00:46 El Chela. El Chela. Week one. El Bella Chela. Bella Chela. El Bella Chela. Hello, Bella Chela. Week one of 13 weeks of new horror releases, our summer series. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled to begin yeah so that you guys know
Starting point is 00:01:08 every episode for the next 13 weeks will be available as a video episode on our patreon and we will be doing one live episode a month on our patreon and an additional live episode in july on moment like we have done in the past, that anyone will be able to purchase tickets to. What else we got? Helcella. Helcella. I mean, you nailed it. We got graphics made by Emily herself. I've been breaking out my Photoshop. I've been breaking out my photoshop i'm getting us ready i will be
Starting point is 00:01:46 well by the time this episode is out you will know the june schedule and then you know sometime before the end of june i'll post the july oh my god and then sometime before the end of july we'll post the august what can't she do she can do all. I can make one image a month. I'll actually probably make two for the month of July because I'll probably make a show poster for our show. So really pretty huge summer for me. It's huge. And we couldn't do it without you.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It's huge. It's the best summer of my life. Yeah. It's my personal summer of hell. I am feeling like a little nervous, to be honest, because some of these movies seem like they might be double black diamond type of movies. There are some tough ones in the lineup for sure. Yeah. I'm a little worried.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. But there's also some really silly ones and some that people commented well that's not a horror movie at all okay people said that about twisters and i gotta tell you i gotta tell you twister number one fucked me up tornadoes are scary i didn't even see it it was one of those ones that i saw the trailer for it convinced i was going to be swept up into a tornado any moment of my waking life and just be flying around with like a cow in a shed. Because that's what they showed in the trailer. So Twister really scared me.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And then actually in a weird twist of fate, one of my bosses. Twister of fate? Twister of fate. One of my bosses at Paramount was the second, no, the first AD on Twister. I thought you were going to say got swept away. No, he showed me behind the scenes pictures of Twister. He was like, this is when I was the first AD on Twister. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:03:37 That's cool. The movie that fucked me up. Anyway, so I'm scared about Twisters. Look, give us, you gotta give us something. We're doing some gnarly shit, and I'm really excited for Twisters, and there's gonna be scary moments. Let us have this.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's all I have to say about Twisters. Well, yes, there are gonna be some tough ones, but we are starting off a little easy, starting off with Splash, you might say. And if you want to go straight to our recap for this week's movie you can check out time stamps in the show notes because first i would love to ask you guys did anything scary happen to you this week you go emily and this wasn't this wasn't too scary but it does feel worth noting whenever
Starting point is 00:04:25 it happens which is that we had a little earthquake today oh it's a little earthquake you didn't feel it because you were in palm springs yes but it was mabel and theo often run around chasing each other throughout the house and go on little spurts of like i just hear like just they're like really like zoom through room and zoom and the earthquake i first thought it was that it was enough for me to be like what is happening and when i looked at each time he was like no that was an earthquake it was a really quick one it just went like it was like one of those which i haven't really felt it was like you know it was unique interesting feeling for me yeah but you know everything's fine i really
Starting point is 00:05:04 earthquakes are very scary and i'll never get used to them but it is so it's really interesting how you live here long enough you'll just have so many little you're like oh yep earthquake look around nothing really happened yeah on with my day feel weird for about 15 minutes and then it's like just keep going yeah i have an upstairs neighbor that clomps around regularly. Clomps. So I have. You think it's an earthquake?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Your upstairs neighbor is Krampus? He's Krampus, yeah. Krampus. Krampus. Krampus. Krampus. Krampus. He's always singing that up there.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Can you introduce me? Can you introduce me? Honey, you're married. Listen, I've wanted a side piece for a while. Cramples. One with hooves. Cloven. Cloven men.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So anyways, yeah, I get like a couple times a week, I'm like, earthquake? No, it's just my neighbor. It's just cramples. Yep, yep, yep, yep. I don't know. How about you guys? Natural disasters or? No, I just need to tell you guys about my day, which I'm so, so tired.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So I'm just going to tell you everything that happened today. Okay, great. I love that. Woke up at 6 a.m. Okay, we really are starting at the beginning. No, I'm just going to hit the highlights. Hit the highlights. It'll be quick. It'll be quick. Woke up at 6 a.m. with me and Silas. Then Tim went to work at 6 a.m. with me and Silas. Then Tim went to work
Starting point is 00:06:25 at 7 a.m. And then Silas and his grandparents went to church, the first church service at 8.30 a.m. And then I went to that church service at 9 a.m., long story short, with May because she was sleeping. Then we went to another church service. Then there was a party in our backyard, the first party of the day for the choristers. So Silas ran around and got sunburned and ate a lot of sugar. Then an hour later, there was another party in our backyard, party number two. And this party was for newcomers. And so I had to pretend like I'm not a newcomer. And I had to have the same conversation, which I have with a lot of people, which they're like, so where do you live? Where are you from? And I'm like, well, I actually live upstairs.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And people are always like, what? And like yeah i live here you're at my house you're you're here you're you're here and they're like okay freak i'm not gonna talk to you anymore no follow up they don't that they don't wonder no obviously everyone's really nice about it it's more like it's this really central tension of our position which is that we are very inside all of the social events because they're happening literally at our house but by nature of tim's position and living at a fucking church we are also on the outside of all of the events you You know what I mean? Yeah, right. Because it's like, wait, what? You don't work in finance and you don't have a mansion?
Starting point is 00:08:11 You're church people at a church house? Again, everyone's very nice, but it is like a weird dynamic. Anyway, so we went through that twice today. And then, oh, this is what I was getting to. This is what I was leading up to. Silas was so tired. So I was like, listen, we can watch a movie. And he was so excited. So I tried watching Big Hero 6. It's too scary. And I was like, fuck, wracking my brain. What's not scary? What's not scary? What pops up? High School Musical. We watched fucking most of high school musical and i gotta tell you silas is a fan hell yeah he loves it he loves zach efron playing basketball he loves what is not to love he's like they were singing they were dancing they were playing basketball he is hooked so now
Starting point is 00:09:01 we've entered our new high school musical phase, which I am really excited about. And yeah, now I'm here. But it's been a big day, and there's just going to be more days like it to come. She has a thousand-yard stare. Yeah, I see the Henley come back. Come back to us, Henley. We lost her.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Help me. Just staring down the barrel of time as a priest's wife. Just a church lady at a church house. And how much to reveal and how much not to reveal. They're like, what do you do? And I'm like, it's complicated. It's complicated. Is it like summer party season? Is that like what's
Starting point is 00:09:47 happening? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. And there's, oh, well, I forgot to mention that one of the church services happens in our backyard now. And it's beautiful. Like there's beautiful music. The people who are musicians here are very talented. There's this woman here who sings every week, Musicians here are very talented. There's this woman here who sings every week, who has a beautiful voice. And so I'm not complaining. It's like a lot of really amazing things. But it's also so weird that it's my life.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And it's like you don't really have a choice because it is happening to you whether you like it or not. Absolutely. It's in my backyard. The party is literally coming to you. The party is coming to you. Non-stop. Even if you don't want it to. Non-stop. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:31 That's a lot, Hen. I'm sorry. Oh, no. It's great. Yeah. Sounds good. Seems great. Actually, it seems really great.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Sammy, what about you? This happened last week, so I'm cheating. But at least you're being honest about it. Yeah, I would never try to sneak something like that past you guys. No. Never, ever. But last week, I was a little hungover on Friday. Went out on Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Thursday's the new Friday. We all know that. And I had less work to do on Friday. So I was like, okay, great. I've just got to finish this thing. This one kind of manageable thing. No problem. And then I get a text from my boss that I'm or like director that I'm working with and he's like crazy idea are you free to chat and it's like oh oh boy okay and he calls me and I will give context for this in a moment but basically the first thing he says is so I gave Courtney Cox your number. Oh my God. And so it wasn't totally out of the blue because I did know he was working with her on an event. I'm working for a company called On right now. That's an athletic company doing some short documentary stuff for them,
Starting point is 00:12:03 for some of their athletes that are going to be heading to the Olympics. And Courtney Cox really likes tennis apparently. And so she agreed to do this event to promote this tennis player, Iga. I can't remember her last name because I'm not working on that project. Anyways, so I knew that he was working with her. So it wasn't crazy, but it also wasn't what I wanted to hear pretty hungover. I was like, I'm not working on that project. Anyways, so I knew that he was working with her. So it wasn't crazy, but it also wasn't what I wanted to hear pretty hungover. I was like, I'm not in a headspace of... Did she call you? No, thank God.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And he did say she probably won't call you. I was like, that's good, because I probably won't be able to speak to her. I was going to say, you would need to hold an ice cube while you're waiting for that call. And then you see the number come in, and you're like, I'm about to talk to Courtney Cox. That would be really weird. Yeah, that would be pretty wild. Yeah, so she wanted something edited for her Instagram of the event just to share with her followers. So I edited something for her.
Starting point is 00:13:01 She posted it. If you want to watch it, I will admit it's not my best work because like I said, I was pretty hungover and I don't usually edit stuff for social media, but I think it's fun. I think it's fun. So I'm glad she liked it. I can't wait to check it out. And she's got a great Instagram presence. We talked about this. She does. She knows what's good. I didn't know that that I don't follow her on Instagram I don't think I follow her but I just check her out every now and again Cause she has a good presence
Starting point is 00:13:31 We have a kinship because we're both Geminis So happy early birthday Courtney And me Happy early birthday Courtney And happy early birthday Sammy It will not yet be your birthday when this episode comes out But your birthday will be between This week's episode and next week's episode. So I think that means that both of them are your birthday episodes.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Hellchella. Hellchella. Hellchella birthday. Birthday Chella. So anyways, I guess Courtney Cox and I are close personal friends now. Yeah, she'd call you up anytime she wants. Just her to me, not the other way around until she calls me. And then you are going to save that number.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You can call her anytime you want. And I will. That is something that I would do. But something that happened to me actually this week, or something that I did rather, is I watched a very silly, scary movie called Night Swim. Ooh, I saw from the comments that it's a little ridiculous. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:38 That's what people are saying. I mean, it's a movie about a haunted pool, so you can kind of surmiseise that's gonna be a that's giving scary movie vibes isn't there like ridiculous pool stuff that happens in scary movie i'm making that up i don't know i wouldn't know night swim came out this january it was directed by bryce mcguire written by bryce mcguire and rod blackhurst, starring Wyatt Russell, Carrie Condon, Amelie Hoferle, and Gavin Warren. And it is streaming on Peacock.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Okay, Wyatt Russell. We love Wyatt Russell. Star of Overlord. He's in the scariest episode of Black Mirror, directed by friend of the pod, Dan Trachtenberg, called Playtest. And the list continues. Heachtenberg, called Playtest.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And the list continues. He's also, you guys, you missed this, ice hockey player. Also an ice hockey player, obviously. What a list. I think he's in that Godzilla show on Apple. Monarch? I think he plays the young version of Kurt Russell.
Starting point is 00:15:42 That makes sense. That tracks. And it's not nepotism. No. Those are just the two best people to do old. No, he's great. We love him. As we do love
Starting point is 00:15:51 other nepo babies. I got no problem with nepo babies. I really don't. Give me all of them. I love them. I love them. Love them.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Collecting them like beanie babies. Did you guys ever have a fear of a swimming pool? Because this tapped into a childhood fear for me. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, I'm like a fearful physical person in general. So diving into a swimming pool, I never fully mastered. I like kind of did, but I was never great at it. That scared me a lot. Yeah. I would sometimes while in a pool convince myself, what if there were something in here?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. And have to swim really, really, really, really, really fast to the shallow end. Yep. Knowing that there wasn't, but also being actually actively scared. I think part of it must come from just being in water. Like some part of your brain knows like, I'm not supposed to be in here. Like I don't feel like I'm in my natural habitat. And so I feel
Starting point is 00:16:48 at the mercy of the water. I think it's like we're not used to things being able to come up from under us. Also, were you spending a lot of time in pools with pool cleaners? You know, there's always that pool cleaner. Oh, yeah, the pool cleaner. Going down the below and then
Starting point is 00:17:04 whipping around. We still like to sort of stand on those kind of like a little Roomba ride. Sometimes they could sneak up behind you. It's like, yeah, sometimes it would sneak up behind you. I went to a pool a lot that was an L shaped pool. And so while you were in the shallow end, you couldn't see the deep end because it was around a corner. And I was always convinced there was a shark over there. I was like, there's definitely a shark.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And I would get really scared. And maybe some listeners will remember a certain absolutely terrifying episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark? That was a pool monster episode. I haven't seen it since I was probably seven years old, so I don't have super clear memories of it other than it really scaring me. But it was in an indoor pool, I believe, and my child brain rationalized it.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So outdoor pools are okay, but I can't go in an indoor pool. Or I'll die. Or I'll die, that's where the monster is. But, you know,'t go in an indoor pool. Or I'll die. Or I'll die. That's where the monster is. But, you know, I'm all about this movie. I think, why the hell not make a haunted pool movie? I think it's really funny.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah. I think they did a pretty good job, like, milking all the ways in which a pool could be haunted. Like, all the shenanigans that come with a haunted pool. And is it stupid? Yeah. Do we care? No.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It's entertaining. And I feel like it's, you know, 90 minutes, 100 minutes. It's, I had a good time. Sounds great. White Russell, Oscar nominee, Carrie Condon. It sounds great. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Okay. I'm ready. I'm so ready. Night Swim has a 21 on rotten tomatoes a 43 on metacritic and a 4.7 on imdb pretty low the budget was 15 million and it made 54.1 million okay uh this movie yeah like i said came out in jan. It's Blumhouse. I feel like it kind of had the, it was probably trying to get that Megan spot from last year. Megan came out January last year and was a big success.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And so I kind of hope Blumhouse keeps releasing just a very ridiculous horror movie in January because I think it's fun. Yeah, that's fun. This is obviously no Megan, but again, not everything can be Megan. And if it were, that'd be too much Megan. That'd be too much. So thank God it's not. Basically no trivia for this, but I do think we should watch the trailer beforehand. Okay. Fun. Okay. It's kind of teaser-y. I want to see the pool. You want to
Starting point is 00:19:44 see the pool. I want to see that motherfucking pool. you want to see the pool i want to see that motherfucking pool i want to see the pool i need to be able to picture this i think so so let's oh let's do it take a look it's very funny that this is a video episode where they're going to be watching all three of us just yawn over i know as i like talked about the trailer i was like oh right this right. This whole thing has already been a video episode. Everyone's been looking at it. Everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It's huge. This video is going viral. That would be so scary if anything we did went viral. It would be really scary. I wouldn't like that at all. Unless it was really funny and we all seemed so that at all. Unless it was really funny and we all seemed so
Starting point is 00:20:27 cool and smart. Yeah, if we came out looking fucking awesome, then yeah, I would love to go viral. If it went viral because it was like, you won't believe how hot these girls are who host this horror podcast. Holy shit, they're so hot! The views are just going up and up and up.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Skyrocketing. Being shared around everywhere. Why do you see this? Where did they come from? Yeah, I'd go viral for that. Okay, let's watch this trailer. it needs a little work but i don't think it's gonna last long at this price there's a pool i always wanted a pool is this everything we'll grow into it
Starting point is 00:21:22 y'all ready? Marco. Hola. Marco. Hola. Marco. I hear you. You need to say something back. Ronan, Marco.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Marco. I can hear you. Why aren't you saying anything? Ronan, you're dead. Marco. Marco. That was a good trailer. I feel like my favorite kind of trailer is just like play out a scene.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I don't want to see the whole movie. Just like pick a good scene that gets me hyped to see the rest of the movie good trailer agree agree i saw this trailer in theaters and i was like i'm gonna see this movie in theaters i didn't but i wanted to at the time okay yeah i also just didn't realize how freaky pool sounds are like there were so many pool sounds in that trailer and it reminded me of like it is kind of scary pool sounds. There's something scary about it. Water is really scary. Water is scary.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Although just when you say pool sounds, that reminds me that I used to subscribe to Headspace. Who has the extra however many dollars of what that is to do Headspace? But I used to, when I'd have trouble falling asleep, listen to, they have like little descriptive soundscapes and one of them was this like indoor pool
Starting point is 00:23:50 and I did find it very interesting like I said indoor pools no good for me I only listen to rainy rainy day antiques I love rainy day antiques and I also love snowville snowville I listen to snowville too oh reminds me
Starting point is 00:24:06 of 2020 i know i'm i'm actually like i miss those soundscapes um this was an l-shaped pool sammy no this is it's not actually did it seem like that it looked a little l-shaped at one point it's just long i mean lowercase l um lowercase l it's case L. I would not be closing my eyes in a pool at night. That's what I was going to say. It's very funny that she does keep her eyes closed as she's like more and more scared. It's very funny. Just open your eyes. It's like the rules of Marco Polo are we don't have to adhere to them that strictly. If one is scared, one can open their eyes. Yeah. I feel like that's the type of thing that happens in movies where it's like, wouldn't
Starting point is 00:24:45 everyone say that? And wouldn't it be so easy to solve it where she's like, I can't open my eyes. Like that would make it scarier if she like had her eyes closed and then she like couldn't open them. I can't open my eyes. You know what I mean? Yeah. That would be fucking terrifying.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah. Just like, it'd be so easy to explain that away. Cause I was thinking that too, the whole time. Like reaching for her eyes being like, why can't I open my eyes? Why can't I open my eyes? Yeah. Scary. That would be really scary.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Really scary. But instead, she just really respects the rules of Marco Polo. She just respects the rules. She's not a cheater. That's right. And why did Ronan get out of that fucking pool, Ronan? Ronan. Well, that's part of Marco Polo.
Starting point is 00:25:21 You can do that. Fish out of water. Fish out of water. Well, she should brush up on that rule book, baby, because she seems to have forgotten that detail. Yeah. Someone does call fish out of water earlier in the game. So she should know about that part.
Starting point is 00:25:33 She should know about that part. This is all her fault. I don't want to victim blame. I know I have a habit of doing that. And I'm not victim blaming you. We're just looking for ways to avoid being attacked by a pool monster exactly i don't want to get attacked by a monster i would really not like it i would really not like it open your eyes just keep them open one tip yep yep well i mean i guess we're gonna find out
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Starting point is 00:29:26 We see in the pool a little toy boat floats up from seemingly nowhere. And she sees that happen and gets excited and is like, oh, Tommy's boat, this boat has been missing. And she decides she's going to go get it. She puts on her bunny slippers and it's always fucking kids to the slaughter in these goddamn movies and she peeks her head in her brother tommy's room to say tommy i'm gonna go get your boat we see tommy is on life support seemingly terminally ill oh don't know what happened to him.
Starting point is 00:30:05 This is not okay. Already this is crossing too many boundaries. Well. I don't support. Okay. I'll wait and see. Yeah, I feel good about it so far. She tiptoes outside.
Starting point is 00:30:22 She grabs the pool net thing and is trying to fish the boat out of the pool, but it's kind of a short net. She's got short little arms. She can't reach it. And I think keeps intentionally moving away. It seems like she just can't quite get it. And the camera is showing her little bunny slipper dangling on the edge of the pool like she's gonna fall in but she doesn't but then something grabs the pool net and yanks her in and so she's
Starting point is 00:30:55 in the pool now flailing around and looks up and we see her mom looking down into the water saying, Rebecca, what are you doing? Why are you out here? And she swims up to the surface and is like, mom, I'm sorry. And nobody's there. Huh. Spooky. Lights in the pool start flickering on and off and she swims to the side and then the boat is closer to her just out of reach and so she gets the second wind of like okay it's i might as well just grab it while i'm in here and the camera closes up on her letting go of the edge which i felt like made it seem like this is the moment where she's not safe anymore and And it reminded me of this little kid logic of like when your foot is hanging over the edge of the bed, that's when the boogeyman can get it.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah. That's when you're in. The boogeyman can't get it if it's up on top of the bed. Exactly. And little kid logic, and sometimes every now and again, grown woman logic. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yes, of course. Not boogeyman, but any sort of predators that might be lurking would respect the bounds of the top of the bed yeah anything dangling off the side is fair game fair game and this gave me that same feeling of once you let go of the edge it's like well you're fair game for pool demon now pool. So she swims a little bit into the middle of the pool, and she is pulled under once again, and we see a wide shot of her drowning and just splashing, basically.
Starting point is 00:32:37 We can't see what's really happening, but then in soft focus in the background, you see someone just standing on the diving board with eyes kind of glowing it's like a shadowy figure you can't make out what it is but just like watching this on the diving board like above the water's surface yes okay but don't think too hard about the rules of this okay the only rules that matter are the rules of Marco Polo. Exactly. And cut to title, Night Swim. Wait, okay, so she's dead. Like, we assume she's dead, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Okay. Now we cut to Wyatt Russell and his family. His name is Ray. His wife is Eve, Carrie Condon. And they have two kids, Elliot and Izzy. Elliot's probably 10-ish, Izzy's maybe 14. They are looking at houses that are wheelchair accessible. We see that Ray is walking with a cane and he doesn't seem to be happy that they're like, he's kind of irritated by the way these houses are set up and he's like you know we don't need this like this is silly maybe a bit of denial happening on his part and they're with their realtor and they drive past a house for sale that wasn't on their list and it catches ray's eye and he says what what about this one? Realtor says, oh, I wasn't going to show it to you
Starting point is 00:34:06 because it doesn't meet all of the requirements for being wheelchair accessible or whatever. And he's like, that's fine. Like, let's just look at it. Let's just see. So we go in and wouldn't you know it, this house has a pool. Pool's covered up with tarp, looking like it has seen better days. The realtor tells them that it has been unoccupied for quite some time, but it's only ever had one owner.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And, you know, just with some little bit of fixing up, it could be a really wonderful place. Does the realtor know someone's died in the pool? Do you know what I mean? Like, I think it's a state by state thing. I was thinking that as well. I think it it is and i don't know where they are for some reason i want to say they're in canada oh but i can't say for sure so ray and eve are standing outside looking at the pool ray says i always wanted a pool and eve, I used to be scared of pools. We had a pool when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And my dad threw us in. He did the thing, sink or swim, where it's just, that was how he taught us to swim, was just throwing us in the pool. So she has some pool trauma already that Ray seems kind of unsympathetic about, to be honest. He's like, well, I've always wanted one, so this is pretty cool for me. And she leaves him out there, and he's looking wistfully at this pool, like imagine the pool times we could have.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Surely only positive pool times. And he sees a baseball on top of the tarp that's covering it, and he reaches for it, and he falls in and gets wrapped up in the that he has this degenerative condition now that's made him have to retire early. And so he's kind of having these visions of his prime, like hitting home runs and the crowd cheering. And it's, I don't know, giving him motivation, I guess, to survive not drowning in the tarp. And he gets, he makes it out. Okay. I can't wait to hear what you guys think is the message of this movie, because I have no idea. Did he think he was going to drown in the tarp? Did it seem? I don't know. It's a very dramatic scene where he's just like, I mean, maybe it's, it doesn't look... Well, does it seem like the demon put the baseball there on purpose to lure him in? Maybe. A little lure. Yeah. Possibly.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Some bait. I think the message is the housing market is crap, but you guys don't need to worry about it because buying a new house will kill you. Okay. So you don't want to buy one anyway. Great. You can't afford one. Or it could be pay attention to your wife's trauma. I like that. Could that be the message? Why not both, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:16 Two messages for the price of one. Two messages. So he makes it to the surface and pulls himself out of the pool. His kids see this run out. Mom, dad fell in the pool. Everybody come out here and they're, you know, running to his side and he's like, I'm fine. I'm fine. But I think because he fell in the pool, they go to the doctor to just, I don't know, check in or something to be like, They go to the doctor to just, I don't know, check in or something to be like, maybe his condition is getting worse, his balance or whatever. And so the doctor does confirm that it is multiple sclerosis and that it has progressed stage two or something. And she's giving recommendations and she's like, I mean, it is, this does happen and you can do things to slow it down,
Starting point is 00:38:06 like some good physical therapy would be good, light exercises, like yoga. Swimming's really good. They're like, swimming? Oh, my gosh. Let's get that house. Have to get the pool. You got to get that house with the pool. So they buy the house. Okay, the message is don't listen to your doctor.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yes. The message is people with terminal illnesses shouldn't buy a pool. I think you're trying to guess the message maybe a little too early. I think we keep going, Emily. Okay. Okay. Okay. Great.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Periodically. We'll chime in. We'll check in with the message. Look for clues. Yeah. Look for clues. And at the end, we can put all the pieces together. Okay. Okay. Okay. Great. Periodically. We'll chime in. Just yeah. Look for clues. Yeah. Look for clues. And at the end we can put all the pieces together. Okay. So they're moving in. We see that they do unfortunately have a cat and the kids are starting school. The older sister Izzy is in high school and she's standing by her locker when a cute boy hands her a flyer to join the jv christian swim club it's a very specific club very specific and she is interested because he is
Starting point is 00:39:14 cute we see back at home the family all together cleaning out the pool they've drained it so they have to clean it all i guess normal pool stuff maybe and they're all working together happy family wow we're gonna have a pool everybody's chipping in scrubbing the sides we see ray at the drain of the pool putting his hand in trying to dig something out when of course he goes ah pulls his hand out his palm is sliced open and then all this brown water just starts filling up the pool just coming out of that drain like backing up like nasty brown water they call in a pool guy professional who comes take a look at it and tells them i have not seen one of these ever in real life but this pool is actually connected to groundwater straight down to hell
Starting point is 00:40:14 i've never actually seen one of these hell pools but if you just look down here you can see hell you can see it you'll just look and you'll see hell. You can see the flames and the demons. It's right down there. First there's mud and then hell. It's like Breaking Dawn Part 2 where it's just. Just immediately hell. Right below the pool. Ten feet and then lava.
Starting point is 00:40:39 But he says it is well water essentially that this area used to all have natural pools. And a lot of people used to have this, but he hasn't seen them lately. And he says the groundwater is supposed to be great for your skin. Like, if we can get it working, that would be really cool. Like, I guess, like, imagining, like, a natural springs type of thing. Yeah, sounds cool to me. Like, I guess like imagining like a natural springs type of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Sounds cool to me. So if they can figure this out, then good for the MS and good for your skin. And what could be wrong? Everything is just going to be good. No demons. No demons. No demons. And so they get it fixed. Whatever was broken about it and fill it up with that well water and we're ready
Starting point is 00:41:26 to swim the whole family's all holding hands jumping in together just having a grand old time everything's going to be good forever that shot in the trailer looked like those cruise ads where it's like all the family on the disney. Yeah, exactly. They're really hamming it up. Just what a great time they're all having with the pool. And then we see at night Eve, the mom, taking a night swim. No, not the titular night swim. swim no not the titular night swim she is swimming laps and what's this the overhead style called i took swim class and i can't remember uh breaststroke i don't think it's breaststroke i that brain thing but breaststroke is this one just the main one you know the one where your arms are going over and
Starting point is 00:42:26 up and over if you're watching the video episode you'll be able to see but that's i mean that's classic swimming classic swimming it's just picture swimming and it's probably that i need what's the classic swim freestyle freestyle freestyle yes it is called freestyle there's something free about that it is crazy that it's called freestyle i remember that's why i don't remember because it shouldn't be called freestyle freestyle seems like do whatever you want have fun with it you know the other option is front crawl which also doesn't seem right because that's a it's like the fastest swimming method too so to call call it a crawl. Front crawl.
Starting point is 00:43:06 What is up with swimming? I don't know. What is regular swimming called? Freestyle front crawl stroke. That's so stupid. I have a bone to pick. What are the versions of swim? Oh no, this is grammatically.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Swim, swum, swims, swimming. It'll be helpful for while we're talking to know all that anyways. Yeah, we want to know all that anyways yeah we want to know these terms this is a swim movie okay great so she's swimming freestyle if you had said that though if you had just said that because you knew in my head for the rest of the movie i would have been like she was just doing whatever the hell she felt like she's just doing kind of freestyle she's gonna kind of freestyle in the pool. She's kinda doing her own thing in there.
Starting point is 00:43:50 She should have some freaking fun with it. I mean, I swim freestyle for sure. I just kinda go freestyle. Exactly. So she's swimming freestyle, and you know how you tilt your head up to take a breath. Sometimes people have their face down in the water. Every couple strokes, they lift up to the left, take a breath sometimes people have their face down in the water every couple strokes they lift up to the left take a breath put their face back down and so there's a pretty cool shot where the camera is as if it's her pov so it's face down in the pool and then it's raising up to the left and coming out of the water looking at the side of
Starting point is 00:44:19 the pool for a second then going back down into the pool then coming back up and showing the side i thought that was a pretty cool shot. And of course. It reminds me of like the rotating fan. Yes. In Paranormal. Yeah. What's over here?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah, you know something. You know something's coming. And so surely enough, after a couple times of looking at the water, there's a jump scare of Ray standing at the side of the pool, staring at her looking kind of creepy. And she gets startled and laughs and says, Ray, you scared me. Looks up. Nobody there. This pool plays tricks.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Tricky pool. She's looking pretty spooked. And yeah, I would not like that one. But then the lights of the pool start flickering. They're flickering and then they turn off completely. And she just swims out of the pool and crawls out and the lights turn back on. And it seems to go back to normal. And at this point, I'm laughing thinking, does getting out of the pool just work? That's really funny. Is it just simply don't go in that pool? Just literally don't go in the pool.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And for the most part, yes, it is. But it's not always quite so simple okay that would be funny if that's what the plot of the movie was and they figured that out pretty quickly and then they start having their friends over to test it out and they're like okay so the demon's getting them now but just get out of the pool now you're fine just get out it's all you have to do uh so she she goes back inside and sees that Ray has been sleeping this whole time. And she's, God, you're night swimming while your husband's asleep? It's one thing to swim at night. Another thing to swim at night when no one's awake to hear you scream.
Starting point is 00:45:58 She's dancing with the devil. She says, I think we should put on a pool cover just to be safe which i'm not sure what she thinks that's gonna accomplish yeah to keep more demons from getting into the pool i mean it seems like if anything it would just keep them in there from getting out yeah yeah what if it's their only means of getting rid of a demon is it can fly out of there. And now they've trapped it in. So I don't know. But Ray says, sure, we can do that. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And then we get a shot of the cat on the diving board growlings, and the toy boat comes out of the pool. Cat's looking at it and growlingling and we don't see what happens, but we hear a splash and like a rare. So we can guess. Oh man. Wait, isn't it a toy boat and it too.
Starting point is 00:46:55 That's like in the gutter in the beginning. The little sailboat thing. Yeah. I don't like that. I don't like that callback. Yeah. So next morning we see the cat collar floating in the pool. The little boy Elliot is very upset and Eve is trying to comfort him saying,
Starting point is 00:47:15 I'm sure he'll come back when he's hungry. Yeah, he probably just slipped right out of his collar. He probably fell in the pool and got scared and then got out and then took his collar so slippery that that collar flew right off i mean i guess what would you otherwise think like where's the cat body so i suppose actually that yeah it does make sense yeah i guess yeah you're right if you thought the cat drowned you'd see the cat to your dead cat yeah and at this point ray is noticing, he's like feeling around on his hand and noticing something,
Starting point is 00:47:48 and he's in the house by himself, and he unwraps the bandages on his cut open hand, and it is completely healed. Oh. No scar, no nothing. Strange. And we see him that night going for a swim, and Eve watching him through the window, keeping an eye.
Starting point is 00:48:11 She's still on edge about night swims. But it seems fine. Fine. Ray can night swim. No problem. Okay. They go to their doctor again, another check-in. And the doctor says, wow, I've never seen this much improvement. This is unheard of. We'll have to run more tests, but it's actually miraculous. You're doing so
Starting point is 00:48:36 much better. And he's feeling great. He's smiling. He says, well, we got a pool. I swim twice a day. we got a pool. I swim twice a day. And so this swimming is really helping Ray. And so it's not this magic hell water. We see him swimming a lot. He's hyped on the pool. He says, you know what? We should have a pool party because we're new to the neighborhood. We got to like get to know some of our neighbors, invite people over. Kids, invite all your friends. In fact, invite everyone you know. Dad, what? Which I guess probably isn't that many people because they're new,
Starting point is 00:49:15 but he's really excited about the pool. Does he seem like unnaturally excited or he's just amped? I think he seems unnaturally excited, but I think within the logic of the movie. I mean, the pool is healing him. Yeah. I'd be amped.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But I don't think he's got any like pool demon within him at this point. So theoretically, this should be his actual full personality. He's just really excited about the pool. He's pool. He's pool. full personality. He's just really excited about the pool. He's pool. And one day Elliot is wanting to dive for coins and asks his mom. His mom says, go tell your dad to come swim with you, to keep an eye on you. He goes to his dad, who's like working out in the garage, lifting so many weights. Like he's doing so well. He's so strong now. And it does seem like he's like, oh, just go diving for coins by yourself. Like I need
Starting point is 00:50:14 to keep working out. I won't tell mom if you don't, whatever. So now Elliot's going to go diving for coins. He's got this big bucket of coins that he sets on the edge of the pool, and then he jumps in. And as he's kind of in the bottom, sitting on the bottom of the pool in the shallow end, his dad does tell him, stay in the shallow end. Nobody can drown there. Nobody can drown there. And he's kind of like sitting on the bottom of the pool, like sitting on the bottom of the pool, looking around when a coin falls in. He comes up and says, oh, dad, you decided to join me. Nobody there. Of course, nobody there.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And he puts his goggles on. He dives for the coin. And as he does, another coin is thrown in a little closer to the deep end. Coins keep being thrown in until we're way in the deep end. And he looks up from the bottom of the pool and sees a little girl standing at the edge of the water and comes up. Of course, nobody there. He thinks someone's messing with him. He's calling out come out wherever you are like i saw you and then he's underwater again he sees someone standing on the diving board he jumps up to try to look at the diving board nobody there he's being really brave though he's like it's a pretty scary situation and he just confronts immediately like looks up on that diving board and i was like i would have been scared to do that i think i would have hidden like just gotten out and ran away yeah get out of the pool but he's like who's there extremely brave and then he hears a voice saying hello can you help me help me a little girl's voice and he follows it to the pool filter thing you know the thing on the side of pool where there's that little hole and the filters in there yeah the little flap scary place to stick your hand into scary place and the voice says i'm
Starting point is 00:52:20 looking for my mom my name is rebecca really gives a lot of information she says her last name too but i can't remember it but and he thinks she's stuck in there and he reaches in to the pool filter whole thing and finds his little toy that he was playing with earlier a little action figure and he's pulling that out and it's all tangled in hair all this hair demons love this i hate hair hair is my worst thing hair too wet hair wet hair i'm like disgusted by my own hair in the shower i'm disgusted by my own hair and i have to say i'm so much more disgusted by my dark hair than i was oh yeah yeah yeah because dark hair is disgusting yeah oh i hate horrifying i
Starting point is 00:53:12 hate cleaning hair out of the shower oh my god i hate it so much so he's playing this action figure is covered in hair and as he's he's reaching in there hand grabs his wrist, a nasty demon hand, like a waterlogged gray gross hand. And we see in the little place, this little filter area, a head in someone's eyes, like stuck back there that kind of slips away into the... Is that the little girl that died in the beginning maybe we it's it's someone with long hair and the little girl did have long hair so possible but it's scary we don't get a great look at it but it's not good elliot's screaming mom runs out and is very understanding because she's been creeped out by this pool too so she's not like oh you're making it up she's been creeped out by this pool too. So she's not like, oh, you're making it up. She's like, takes him seriously right away, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But they, I mean, what are you going to do? They can't see anybody. There's a pool demonologist. I specialize in pools. That seems like probably an untapped market. Yeah. Make a lot of money on that. You could make a lot of money on that. I wish you could make a lot of money on that. Has could make a lot of money on that. I wish you could make a lot of money on that. Has Tim thought about specializing in pool demonology? Oh, yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:54:29 We're trying to melt this priest thing for all it's worth. Yep. Good. A lot of money in this field. A lot of money. You guys are going to be really, really rich. Extremely rich. And you can have a pool and not worry about it because you've got an accident.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It's filled with holy water. It's just holy water we're swimming through. That's right. So we see that Elliot is playing baseball. He's joined the baseball team at his new school. And he's looking kind of depressed.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He's not very good at baseball. And he feels bad about it because his dad was a professional baseball player. And so he feels a lot of depressed. He's not very good at baseball and he feels bad about it because his dad is was a professional baseball player. And so he feels a lot of pressure, but maybe he doesn't even really like baseball. And his dad has volunteered to help coach the team. And everyone's like, oh, my God, we've got a former professional baseball player and everyone's all excited. You've got a former professional baseball player and everyone's all excited. And the coach is like, oh, this is my son. He's on the team also.
Starting point is 00:55:29 He's so good. He's got a really great, I don't know, I was going to say backhand, but that's tennis. And imagine if they ever hit the baseball back. You can do both ways, but I think they're both frontward. I still think they're both front. You can do the bunt thing, which is kind of a funny little different way to go. Oh, yeah, yeah. Kind of like a funny little different way to go. Yeah, if you ever try to spice it up a little
Starting point is 00:55:55 freestyle, if you will. Sort of like freestyle baseball. Whatever you're feeling in the moment. Floating that bat everywhere. That like pencil trick that you used to do as a kid. You do it with the bat? You look like it's waving. And they ask Ray if he will hit one of the balls the coach is pitching.
Starting point is 00:56:20 He's like, can we just see one of your famous Ray sluggers? Can you just hit him all for us? Me doing sports, trying to recall sports terminology on the spot is so hard. Like make a goal, score a goal with the ball. Show us one of those famous Ray Sluggers,
Starting point is 00:56:37 those huge shots you do, those big swings. Hit a baseball like you do. And he first falls and it's really sad and seems like maybe it's not a good idea. And he's like, no, I'll go again. I'll go again. And musters up everything, all his strength. And again, we're getting flashbacks to his glory days.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And then he hits the ball so hard that the stitches on the baseball explode and it flies into the outfield and hits a light, like those spotlights for the um for the sports field you need like a list of baseball terms on the side of your computer graph of a baseball field with everything labeled uh so you know maybe the pool's not just healing him ass. Maybe it's giving him baseball superpowers. Whoa. How about that? And of course, he really has been sad about losing his baseball career.
Starting point is 00:57:54 So he's feeling really good. This is very exciting. Well, this is a smart demon. This demon knows we can't fuck with everyone in the family. Then they'll leave. We got to hook one of them. We hook one of them and we kill the rest and then we kill him. But first we got to hook him.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah. So we go back to the house. Ray and Eve are going out on a date. I think the kids are going to be home alone. They say, you know, be good and stuff. Yeah. And Izzy invites over cute pool guy,ian pool guy his name's ronan and they play marco polo and at first so seeming like a fun normal game i say marco you say polo
Starting point is 00:58:40 i can say fish out of water if i think you're not in the pool. Those are the rules. I won't, but I could. And I won't open my eyes. You can't open your eyes. That's the golden rule of Marco Polo. It's our most absolute law. Most absolute law of Marco Polo. You can't open your eyes.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Can't, can't, can't. And so she's got her eyes closed saying Marco, he's saying Polo, and he gets out of the pool. She's still kind of giggling. She's like, I can hear you. And then he stops responding. And she's saying, you know, you have to say something back when I say Marco. And she's venturing further into the deep end the scariest part of the pool and no response means you can open your eyes yeah clearly getting scared and just holding the rule book so close to her heart she will not open her eyes we're seeing what looks like a pool monster in the deep end of the pool but it's again kind of blurry out of focus but just seems like someone in the pool that doesn't look like ronan that she's kind of going towards and she's like oh i can like kindan, that she's kind of going towards. And she's like, oh, I can kind of sense that you're over there.
Starting point is 01:00:07 There's an overhead shot where it looks like this pool monster guy is below her. And she says, Marco. And then we hear a pool demon voice say, Polo. And it pulls her down and she's struggling against it but being pulled down so far into the pool it defies you know reason almost like she's being pulled into hell almost like she's being pulled into hell or an evil pool dimension also where is ronan she can see the surface of the pool getting further and further away until it's like a small little square up in the distance. That's scary.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like get out style. Really scary. Oof. And she eventually gets free, I don't know, and like makes it up to the surface. Big breath, like throws herself on the side of the pool, gasping for air. Ronan's standing right there laughing and she's like so freaked out and he's like oh my god what what's wrong what's wrong he's like you were only under there for like a couple seconds and so there's also some
Starting point is 01:01:14 sort of time time warp warp happening and she's embarrassed to tell him i guess that i was just pulled underwater by a pool demon into a pool portal yeah which you know fair enough and her parents are about to be home anyway so she just says oh you gotta leave like my parents are gonna be mad when they get back you can't be here and elliot knows that something happened to her he can kind of sense that she had a pool incident as well and he's like tell me like i had a pool thing i want to, he can kind of sense that she had a pool incident as well. And he's like, tell me, like, I had a pool thing. I want to know. And she kind of shuts it down. And she says, Elliot, the pool is healing dad. He's doing so well. If we complain about a pool, we're just going to freak him out and have to move again. And like, what if he gets more sick?
Starting point is 01:02:01 And so these kids are not going to be revealing to their parents all their pool demon interactions. This is just another reminder for me to tell my kids. Tell me, you guys. If you ever feel a demon, just you can tell me. Just tell me if you feel like there's a demon. If you feel like it, just tell me. I want to know if there's a pool demon. Gotta tell me.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Even if I have baseball powers all of a sudden. Even if I have MS and then I've been healed and I have baseball powers, even in that situation. Even then. Tell me. Yep. Even then you can tell me. That matters more than my baseball powers. Mm-hmm.
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Starting point is 01:06:05 Oh boy. It's pool party day. The whole neighborhood's there. Lots of kids. Oh boy. But it's a day party. It's a day party. Don't you feel like this is giving the demon powers? Don't you feel like everyone who enters the water
Starting point is 01:06:15 gives the demon more powers and now the demon's going to be super powerful because of all those bodies in the water? We have simply no idea. And I don't think we ever will. I'm not feeling anything because each thing i think at first like oh it's only if you're in the pool which i guess to this point it still is that but then i'm like okay it's only when you swim at night but the coin
Starting point is 01:06:36 thing happened during the day and so i'm like trying to figure out day swim what are the rules it seems like day swims are also bad okay so so we we don't know. We don't know. We don't know the rules of this pool demon. Only the rules of Marco Polo. So everyone's having fun at this pool party except for Eve, Elliot, and Izzy who are all looking very nervous and just refusing to go in the pool. All their friends are like, come on. And they're like, nothing. It's like, I'm good. No, you try it. You try it.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I'm good. And Ray is having a great time walking around, throwing his arms around everybody. You guys are loving this pool. Isn't this pool so great? And he sees the coach's son. And there's a guy in the pool, an adult that refers to i think as steroid shrek i i don't know why he says steroid shrek over there is thinks he owns the pool i own the pool it's my pool he's playing chicken like with the kid with the kid on his shoulders and they keep winning
Starting point is 01:07:42 oh yeah and so he's like let's go teach him a lesson like we're gonna go play chicken oh against him and coach's son is like hell yeah let's do it oh god he got marco polo and then he got chicken whoa the two main pool games pretty standard pool games what's the one where you have your back turned and you just call out things sharks and minnows sharks categories yeahories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, categories. Categories too. Categories is fun. Yep. And that game is not represented here in this film.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Interesting. Okay. So meanwhile, we see them getting ready to go play their game of chicken. Meanwhile, Eve is in the kitchen with their realtor who has been invited to the party because they invited everybody they know. And Eve is saying, you know, like, so why hasn't anybody lived here in a while? And, you know, is there anything we should know about the pool?
Starting point is 01:08:37 Anything? There's just been a couple of weird things with the pool. She's just vaguely alluding to something. And the realtor goes like, okay, I didn't know when I sold you the house. I only found out about this after we had signed papers. And I figured then you guys seemed so happy. And so I didn't want to tell you, but yes, a little girl did die in the pool. And Eve was her name rebecca because elliot had told her about his incident because that's before they made the pact to not tell their parents anything and the realtor says
Starting point is 01:09:16 oh my god how did you know that's so weird yes her name was rebecca because she said her last name too so we know it's the same one yeah and eve is looking stressed like okay something something's up with the pool and go back outside we see ray with the coach's son on his shoulders they're playing chicken against uh the other people and they win and the kid is like yeah yeah we did it and he's like okay i'm like let me down now oh god and ray's not letting go of his legs oh we had seen a moment where ray was underwater where some like black liquid goes into his mouth and so so he is becoming the pool demon yeah something is in him now and we see his eyes like got it kind of blood vessels turning gray and veins in his neck turning gray and it's now this is an interesting tactic nasty
Starting point is 01:10:11 and so he does not let go of the kid's legs he grips on tighter we see him go like like locking now he's super strong baseball power yes and the kid is like screaming in pain and he's like ah and he just walks into the deep end until they're both underwater and is drowning is anybody acknowledging the screaming child well there's a lot there were setups of children screaming earlier because it's like pools like fun screams and there's a lot of kids there playing and screaming and yelling. And so it's getting lost in the commotion. But Elliot is so on edge that he's been watching. So he notices, but he was in his room, which is upstairs because he's so scared of the pool that he doesn't want to be near it.
Starting point is 01:11:00 You guys get us high away from the pool. Like me, just get higher and higher. Yep. And so, but he sees this happening, but he's far away. to be near it you guys get us high away from the pool like me yeah get higher and higher yep and so but he sees this happening but he's far away and so he he runs downstairs and mom mom the pool we run out the coach jumps into the pool pulls out his son and they get both of them out eventually ray is unconscious we see the kid's legs are like bruised already where he had been holding him. Like he's really hurt. And eventually Ray comes to coughing and like doesn't know what happened.
Starting point is 01:11:37 We see that the police come like, obviously this ruins the party. Everybody leaves. Police come. I'm doing a report. And Eve is apologizing and saying, I'm so sorry. The coach's wife is saying he said he wouldn't let go. And she says, you know, his MS like affects his nervous system and like his muscles lock up. And like, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I'm so sorry. And the coach is like, yeah, we're not going to press charges. But I think it's best that he doesn't come to practice anymore. So this pool party really backfired and we did not. The pool giveth and the pool taketh away. Exactly. God, I got to say, the second I hear that real estate agent say, yeah, that is the name. How do you know? I am calling a hotel. I'm booking a hotel.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I'm packing our bags. I'm getting us in the car. I'm like, we're going, we're going, we're going. We're not coming back. Yes. We're gone. Everybody out of the pool, out of the pool, out of the pool. We're going.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Because the girl who died in the pool is coming and visiting the pool. So we're actually going to get, we're going to get everybody out. We're going to get out. She made it clear it's her. She gave her first and last name. She wanted us to know it was her. Yeah, it was very straightforward message from the girl who died in this pool. So we're going to get out.
Starting point is 01:12:49 My husband is currently trying to murder another child in the pool. So that's extra evidence. This pool is giving my husband super strength and trying to kill the rest of us. So we're going to get out of the pool. Would it be okay to have a guest bedroom? We could stay in for a little while. Well, Henley, you will be happy to hear that is exactly what she does. Does she call pool demonologists? Because I would also be doing that. She doesn't do that. I would also be looking up the yellow pages for a demonologist
Starting point is 01:13:12 specializing in pools. And yes, she would happen to find my husband's name there, but that's not why I bring it up. Sure. He's an Episcopalian priest, also a pool demonologist. Now that would give you something to talk about at your summer parties. You're going to want to put this as a number in your vote. Do you guys have a pool? Because how secure do you feel about its connection to
Starting point is 01:13:35 hell? Has anyone ever died in your pool? How do you know? For sure. Have you checked? Have you double checked? Triple checked? Tim can check for you. Tim just goes around everybody's pool being like, yep, nobody died here. Congrats. You can feel the pool energies because he's a pool demonologist. So Eve, yes, backs up the kids, says we're getting a hotel. We're getting out of here. Something is wrong with that pool. Ray is saying, no, we got to stay the pool. I love the pool so much.
Starting point is 01:14:03 And she's like, I don't care. Gets him in the car. He's like i don't care gets him in the car he's in the front seat kids are in the back we're driving away and as soon as we kind of pull onto the street away from the house ray starts having like a coughing fit we're seeing the veins in his neck bulging and he starts like vomiting black liquid and basically seizing. And so they panic and run back in the house and then he's fine. And so they lay him to rest, like lay him down to rest in the bed and they call a doctor and they're like, oh yeah, just let him rest.
Starting point is 01:14:36 But clear that he can't be too far away from the pool, I guess. I wouldn't go back to the house. I would have driven straight to the hospital. Whatever. You know what? It's not my story. It's not. It's have driven straight to the hospital. Whatever. You know what? It's not my story. It's not.
Starting point is 01:14:47 It's not your story, Henley. It's not mine. It's not your story. And she does the next best thing, which is she drains the pool. He's not going to be happy about that. No. She got to do it. But he's laid up in bed.
Starting point is 01:15:00 He doesn't see her do it. And meanwhile, we get a research montage. She's looking up in bed. He doesn't see her do it. And meanwhile, we get a research montage. She's looking up Rebecca. She's looking up the history of the house, previous owners. And wouldn't you know it, every family that lived there has had a death in the family or a disappearance. Every family? Mm-hmm. Okay, this realtor did not do her due diligence.
Starting point is 01:15:24 No. Well, I don't think they all necessarily died in the pool but some of them disappeared and okay you know this wasn't on the realtor's list so yeah that's true that's true she was and she's you know she's just a lady. She can't do a research montage of every single house that she's going to list. So this research leads Eve to Rebecca's mother, who she finds an address for, who lives a couple towns over now. She drives to her house, knocks on the door, and basically says, Hi, I know this is so crazy, but I live in the house that you used to live in.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And if it's okay with you, I'd like to ask you a couple questions. This lady lets her in and leads her to this seat next to a fountain. And it's like, I've got to sit here if that's okay with you. She is cool. We're looking suspicious. Eve's looking suspicious. Basically says, so yeah, like I lived in that house. And this woman says, a magical house.
Starting point is 01:16:29 We loved that house. Oh, pool demon. And. In the flesh. My son, Tommy, he loved swimming in that pool. And she's showing her pictures of Tommy. You know, he doesn't visit as much as I would like, but he's my pride and joy. And Tommy is the one we had seen in the opening scene on life support. And so
Starting point is 01:16:53 hearing that he's alive and well is reminding us of the way that Ray has healed and is doing very well so we're just you know clocking that and eve asks her did you have a daughter and the woman is like no no daughter just me and tommy and huh eve keeps pressing it she says you know i'm not trying to upset you, but I know you had a daughter, Rebecca. And the woman is being real weird and looking very nervous and some water's dripping out of her eye. Not crying, just water dripping out of her eye? Yeah, it's like kind of grayish. Gross. it's yeah it's like kind of grayish and she says please i'm scared whatever happened to your daughter is happening to my family i just need to know what's going on and the woman stands up and
Starting point is 01:17:57 is looking out the window now and is saying kind of cryptically have you ever wished in a wishing well and this is the part of the movie where they explain everything that makes everything worse and oh sure we didn't we didn't need to do this and so she says some water is magic the water in that pool came from this specific spring i can't remember the name of it, but it's a healing spring. And for centuries, people have been healing themselves in that water. But for every person that heals, it must take another person. Well, it's not very healing. She just spells it all out. And she says it needs one person and then everything will be fine again. And so it was easy for Rebecca. She didn't know what was going to happen. It was good that way. She had no idea. And she's completely fine with her daughter dying.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I mean, so here's the deal. I liked my son more than my daughter. Felt pretty conflicted about that until I learned that I could sacrifice one for the other. I could just trade her for the magic water. Wait, but we think that she's a little fucked by this demon if she has like little gray waters sure coming out of her eyes yes but i will say that this family is asian and i feel like this is kind of racist this like trope of like an asian mom being like i love my son and like my daughter oh interesting i can sacrifice which i feel like was not handled with any sort of... Especially her comment of he doesn't visit as often as I'd like. It's like your son seems to not be that grateful.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Well, we do get a flashback to the night of Rebecca's death, where Tommy had heard Rebecca drowning, runs to his window, and then tries to run out of his room to be like mom mom rebecca's drowning in the pool and his mom locks him in his room so i whoa kind of interpreted as tommy probably never visits because he knows you killed his sister like let his sister die whoa and whoa anyways i think just that's really dark this part kind of bumped for me for a couple reasons first of all the like spring water i think is tied to something to do with the first nations people of canada so that's kind of a racist thing that horror movies do or yeah you know not as much nowadays but it was just like did we need that where it's
Starting point is 01:20:25 like well the first nation's water is magical and also demonic and also bad and yeah yeah so there were just a couple things in here i was like i don't know if they even know that they're doing this it's like this is a little gross. So she's saying love requires sacrifice. And Eve is, of course, horrified by this. That's not love. Just some pretty tired tropes happening here that I didn't love. And then as this conversation is ramping up and getting more dramatic, there's just like gray water coming out of her eyes and nose and mouth.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And the fountain starts, gray water starts coming out of that. It's overflowing. It's going into Eve's purse, the nasty gray water. Ew. Gross. Well, it's like maybe it's like what's happening to Russell Wyatt is what happened to the mom. Russell Wyatt? Is that his name?
Starting point is 01:21:24 Wyatt Russell. Wyatt Russell. Is happening to the mom. Russell Wyatt? Is that his name? Wyatt Russell. Wyatt Russell. Is happening to the mom. But you're right. It does go both ways. It does. It's a two first name. That's not on you.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I don't care. You know what? There are worse things that have happened to Russell Wyatt than me calling him Russell Wyatt. But I, you know. What if that was the worst thing that ever happened to him? The hottest woman alive got his name wrong this is the moment we go viral hot sensation we go viral for getting his name wrong but in the midst of it it's because we're also so hot
Starting point is 01:21:58 look at these extremely hot ladies don't know his name oh wow dare to dream huge um but it's almost like it picks one person to i think it seems like the person that needs the healing the most because he was ill and tommy was ill but he also wasn't like possessed by it in the same way that he seems to have been possessed that's why i said you can't think about the rules too hard because i don't think they're super consistent but i think the idea is that maybe it possessed the mom because it knew it that she would give them what it needed and it is possessing wyatt because he will russell russell yay rus Russell Wyatt. She doesn't possess minors. She.
Starting point is 01:22:48 I gendered her. Henley, you'll be shocked to find, she does. Oh, motherfucker. God damn it. So maybe it is foolproof logic, actually, now that I'm thinking about it. Again, we'll circle back at the end, talk through it all. So now Elliot, back at home, hears the cat meowing outside, goes outside and falls in that pool, essentially.
Starting point is 01:23:16 There's like a floaty thing that he thinks the cat is on and turns around, yanks him in, he falls in, and then the pool cover starts closing on its own of course izzy sees this happening runs out trying to stop it but it's too strong for her eve has been rushing home this whole time so she makes it back in this moment they're both trying to stop the pool cover and finally get it to stop with both of them doing it mom jumps in the pool after elliot and finds the floaty thing deflated thing that he had gotten caught in he's not in it he's nowhere in this pool and then she notices a darkness at the deep end where the pool seems to keep going
Starting point is 01:24:00 she gets back out ties the hose to her waist jumps in and swims down as deep as she can. It keeps going and going. Again, we see the tiny little surface of the pool getting smaller and smaller and further away as she's going deeper and deeper in. And Izzy goes in to try to get help from her dad, but we see that Ray is now fully possessed pool demon. He's got nasty gray veins all around his eyes, and she says, Dad, Dad, we need to get help, and he says, We got help. Like, I feel amazing.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Did you not see my baseball powers earlier? And he attacks her and she's screaming and running away from him. And he's saying, Marco, chasing her through the house. Petty demon. Thank you. And she's hiding in this little corner in the garage. And he pops out and finds her and says, you're supposed to say Polo.
Starting point is 01:25:08 And we see Eve swimming deeper and deeper and she sees eventually all these people floating around her. It's craziness. We think these are the sacrificed souls. They don't seem so much like pool demons. They just seem like kind of corpsey, but ghost screaming clawing at her for help maybe and she's trying to pull away from this and in this sea of bodies she finds elliot and grabs him and so now she's just swimming back up
Starting point is 01:25:39 to the surface but she's really deep down there and so she's swimming swimming swimming elliot's like unconscious so she's trying to get to the surface and then she sees rebecca who stops her holds out the hand her hand like stop stop and she stops and looks at rebecca and rebecca's going like no no no stop don't do that opens her hand there's a coin in it from the coin toss that they did earlier and it floats upwards and i was too stupid in this moment to know what this meant but it like pool water gravity doesn't work like that a coin would sink to the bottom of of water so she's swimming in the wrong direction so she's swimming in the wrong direction and the camera does a 180 turn and we see that the surface is actually in the opposite direction which was very cool but literally in the moment i was like how did she know that and then was like oh duh because it would have sank so she makes it up to the surface
Starting point is 01:26:47 elliot is alive but not doing well like coughing up water and they're like we got to get to a hospital but then ray comes out still fully pool demon and he's like love requires sacrifice like how dare you take him out of there that's the way this has to be he needs to be sacrificed oh it's all pretty dumb but izzy comes out of this moment and hits her dad with a shovel and he falls over and then vomits out all this black liquid that i guess is the pool demon so he goes back to his normal self again. And he's like, Oh my God, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And the demon goes into Elliot.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And now Elliot's seizing and has the little gray veins and all very gnarly. And Ray puts together, this pool is not going to let us not have a sacrifice. And now that I have my wits about me, I realize it must be me. And Eve is holding Elliot, crying, and the other three of them are just holding each other, crying, as their dad walks into the pool.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Izzy goes, Dad, where as their dad walks into the pool is he goes dad where are you going to the pool what does it fucking look like dummy and he says someone has to pay and he walks into the pool this kind of black liquid is at the deep end of the pool and just envelops him and then clears disappears and nobody's in the pool so ray has sacrificed himself and then i think is he says where's dad where'd he go all of us have been in this pool dimension now there's we he's obviously in the pool hell he's in pool hell she she doesn't want to believe it i guess you don't want to believe that She doesn't want to believe it. I guess you don't want to believe that. She doesn't want to think that. I guess you're in denial for a bit. And, you know, we cut to black.
Starting point is 01:28:49 We come up the next day or a couple days later, not sure. And it's daytime. They're having another pool party. The pool's safe now! Everyone's back over. I mean, I think, theoretically, the pool would be safe now if the rules of the pool were made clear to us by that woman. I feel like it would be safe.
Starting point is 01:29:10 But anyways, they drain the pool regardless, obviously. Sure. They don't really want to go in that pool. And, you know, they're thinking, should we move? Don't really want to be in this place. And then I can't remember which one of them, but one of them says, I think it's Izzy. She's like, another family would move in and same thing would happen to them.
Starting point is 01:29:35 So we've got to stay. This haunted pool is our cross to bear. Oh, damn. Izzy. No, she doesn't say that, but that's the vibe. oh damn is he no she doesn't say that but that's the vibe and they fill the pool with dirt and that's the end of the movie so what do you guys think he was trying to say it's trying to say if you think it's too good to be true it is too good to be true and someone's gonna die around you i think he's trying to say mothers are crazy and fathers are far more reasonable
Starting point is 01:30:08 like a mother would kill her child but when the father realizes what's required he'll sacrifice himself interesting i just feel like that mother was still had the demon in her yeah like no one had gotten that demon out because was where was the father in that family to begin with there Yeah, there was never a father that we saw. I think that she was just constantly possessed by that demon Yeah, I mean she did have gray water coming out of her. Yeah. Yeah, I think she was just fully possessed by the demon What's the movie trying to say? I mean my first thought was like people with Degenerative illnesses should just die so that their families don't have to suffer.
Starting point is 01:30:47 I was like, is this message is like that what this movie is trying to say? It does kind of seem like the message. I'm not seeing a great takeaway here. Yeah, because it does feel like ultimately the thing is like, well, he was going to die anyway. Right. That you know what, though? I agree with that, that it's a fucked up point of view. But I also think our healthcare system is fucked up and our medical system is fucked up in the
Starting point is 01:31:13 sense that it just makes so much money off of keeping people alive for so long when it's like they shouldn't be alive after a certain point. And like there is an argument to be made that like people deserve a more dignified death. He had a very dignified death. Sure, he chose it. Or he was sacrificing himself for his family. I'm not saying that's what you should do at all. I'm just saying that like,
Starting point is 01:31:35 you know, maybe we should have some more ownership and control over. That's what this movie is trying to say. I don't think that is what it's trying to say. I think that's very generous, but I don't think it thought too much about what it was trying to say. Yeah. I don't think it thought anyone was going to need to think about any of the choices it made. I think they were thinking, should we include categories or not? Well, you have chicken, We have Marco Polo. And they decided not. It just is.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I feel like if your idea and goal was to make a movie about a haunted pool, let's just stick to that and not get into like throwing in some deeper messages and like more emotional storylines and these things that you're kind of like dipping a toe into each of these things that you're not actually exploring at all and i would have rather just been like crazy pool stuff and like i don't need to know the origins of yeah this spring water for this pool and And just it just fell apart for me in the third act, as so many horror movies do that. Yeah. And it was so good up until then. about this and thinking about there were so many different ways that like i was afraid of pools as a kid i would have loved if it had explored like yeah what if all of those were real like what you know there's a shark in the pool there's yeah yeah a little more of like just having a silly splash splashy time with pool scares and pool deaths. Yeah. As opposed to the mythology behind the origins of the water that filled the pool. It's actually, it's so interesting because it's doing what so many
Starting point is 01:33:34 horror movies do, which is it's not camp, but it's also not actually social commentary, but they're trying to get as close to social commentary as they can muster. But they can't quite reach that level. And so it's this weird in-between thing of like, it's trying to be serious, but it's also so ridiculous. I think it's actually trying, I think it's more trying to be camp, but maybe the writers were just too influenced by other movies that are trying to have a social commentary that those things kind of snuck in without them realizing.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Like I can't see a world in which this was intended to be a social commentary because like we're saying, there's no clear message here. I think they're just throwing in things that are like tropes that they had seen before and being like, well, what could be a haunted pool reason? I guess water. I guess if there was some sort of like spiritual water with, I don't know, whatever. Like, I just don't think they've thought too hard about it. And they should have thought harder. But if you're going to go camp, just give us camp.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Just go. I agree. I agree, though, that it's like in the middle in a way that doesn't obviously accomplish either thing. Yeah, I want more camp. I think it could be campier. And I think, you know, maybe there could be a night swim, too. I'd see it.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Yeah. Give us a shark. Like, almost go, like, Final Destination, but with a pool. Mm-hmm. You know? That'd be fun. Give us an evil octopus in that pool. Evil squid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:22 So. But there it is. There it is Night Swim Week 1 Hellchella Week 1 Hellchella We did it
Starting point is 01:35:29 Poolchella There it is Only up from here Only up from these depths Sammy But a fitting start to the summer We did it again Pool horror
Starting point is 01:35:43 I did watch it right before Going to a pool party, which was pretty funny. That is fun. I don't like pool parties. I do. I always just have the sense that someone's going to ask me to play chicken and then lock my legs in and pull me into the shed. I guess your pool parties are more likely to involve children, which doesn't sound fun to me. Oh, yeah. No, I don't like that kind of pool party.
Starting point is 01:36:06 And this pool party was a children, children were there. But an adult pool party, I like. That's just adults hanging out at a pool. Anyways. That's all we got. That we settled that. That's all we got. Glad we settled that.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Everyone's tired. And I think that that means we should stop making people listen to us talk. But thank you. Making them stay, stay, listen. We were forcing them this whole time. But we're letting you go now. We're releasing you. We are releasing you.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Pool demon style. And we are releasing ourselves to go to bed. We're releasing you. We are releasing you. Pool demon style. And we are releasing ourselves to go to bed. I can't wait. That would be a funny through line of Hellchella if one of us is slowly being possessed
Starting point is 01:36:54 throughout Hellchella. Ooh. And you have to guess which one. Hey, time will tell. Time will tell. We can't say for sure that it's not happening. True.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Might be Tim. Pool demonologist. And it might be Tim. Pool demonologist. And it might be Tim. And what would we do about that? So we will be back next week with I Saw the TV Glow. I'm excited for that one. Very exciting. Me too.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Very exciting. And yeah, check out our Instagram if you want to see the lineup and schedule for June and then the lineup without the dates. What do you call that? Just like the movies we'll be covering. Emily's, like we said, made some really wonderful posters. And I did put them in order of what we'll be covering. So you could do the math.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Yes. But I'll bring it down for you as we go. We love you guys. We hope that your pools remain demon free and if not you know who to call. You know who to call?
Starting point is 01:37:58 You do. It's Henley. And she'll put you through to Tim. Don't call Tim to run Tim I'll give you a deal Yeah yeah yeah you gotta go through her Use our code too scary I'll give you a sweet deal For 15% off Riding your pool of demons
Starting point is 01:38:15 What a deal Voices Voices I guess should I try to do an underwater voice Sure Yes Hold on let me put some water in my mouth whoa yes no what if i choke and die right now just like trying to do it would be awful because we're not i couldn't get there fast enough We're almost here. We're at the most kind of watch. No!
Starting point is 01:38:48 No! Hold on, hold on. I gotta get another sip. This is incredible. I forgot that there's video too, so people will be seeing that. There's video too. Are you okay be seeing that. There's video too. Are you okay?
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