Too Scary; Didn't Watch - PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 2

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

A new baby, an old demon, and a security camera in every room - we're recapping Paranormal Activity 2! Join us to hear about what might be Sammy's scariest viewing experience to date.The winner of our nasty torture porn bracket and final episode of October will be SAW (2004). Pray for us. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Please send us your ideas. Join up on our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. We love you all so much and we hope you enjoy this week's episode. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies for myself. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies for myself. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies.

So I watch them for these two. There we go. It's a selfless act. Wow. What's up with us? Oh, before we get into that, I just want our listeners to know that Emily's hair still looks fucking amazing. Being platinum blonde she also looks like Legolas today with her cute little buns and it's inspiring me like my middle school crush do a Legolas vibe like full full new aesthetic

honestly did you guys were you guys into Orlando Bloom at that time i loved him but i think it's kind of a controversial opinion sammy i feel like maybe you wouldn't have liked i think i i think i did love him at the time i do not love him currently well currently it's different i don't hate him no he's fine i'm currently not attracted to him no but when i well how old are we like in like sixth grade sixth grade yeah a lot yeah like I was in I think middle school yeah I don't know I yes and and in then it was quickly followed by Pirates of the Caribbean

right Caribbean either one I feel like I say Caribbean in life but Caribbean for that movie Pirates of the Caribbean I say Caribbean too very interesting I wouldn't say like we're going to the Caribbean right that sounds crazy I say Caribbean too. Very interesting.

I wouldn't say like, we're going to the Caribbean. That sounds crazy. It's the Caribbean. Anyway. I've never thought about that. That's so stupid. But I thought he was so hot in that movie too. At that time in my life. So hot.

I feel like I had a poster of him. So embarrassing. Anyway, Emily looks like him tonight. It's really amazing. Hell yeah. I look like our 11 year old boy crush fantasy. Yeah. Yeah.

Did anything happen to us this week? Not much happening over here. Just working a lot. But I started watching The Haunting of Bly Manor. Oh, I want to watch that. Is based on The Turn of the Screw, which listeners, you'll know The Turning is also based on The Turn of the Screw. And Netflix is doing it much better.

Is it good? Do you like it? You know, I don't like it as much as Haunting of Hill House so far. I'm not done with the i'm only a couple episodes was hill house based on another thing too or was it original that's the sh the shirley jackson novel um that it was based off of um but i've just gotta say again that i think oliver jackson cohen is and you know what, Sammy? Here's the thing. I think almost everyone will agree with you. There's like a whole

thing I saw on Twitter the other day. A whole thread about people posting videos of him pictures of me like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And truly, every single one I was like, what? Again, I think there is something wrong with me

personally, but I can only see a huge dork. It's all I see when I look at him. I can't look. I don't know. I don't know. And here's the thing. I'll say it again. He is hot.

Like, I know that I'm wrong, but I just don't. I feel like you must have known someone in your life. Maybe who was a dork. I just don't find him like he's like so not sexual to me. I guess it's like it's like I guess he's hot but the idea of like being

sexually attracted to him like gives me the willies. That's mean. He's like a perfectly fine man I'm sure but yeah his feelings would be really hurt if he heard me a legless looking woman that he doesn't know. He's not hot.

Well, Oliver, if you're listening. And you are. Don't worry. I think you're hot. Yeah. Henley needs to be the tiebreaker. I like have zero feelings about it. I guess that means I don't think he's hot.

I don't know. I have zero feelings. Interesting. I'm neutral. So I guess he knows which one of us to date. Perfect. And that's, we like that as well. So Oliver, you know, you know which one of us to date.

Anyways, what's up with you guys? I feel like Henley has a thing about squirrels. Yeah. This is really well thought out um no i just feel like hold on we have to preface it with before we started recording henley said have i talked about squirrels yet on the pod i couldn't remember i felt like i had and i guess i haven't so okay since coming to new york so many things have happened. Obviously, there's been a lot of character development on my part. So one thing that's happened is that I

have experienced a lot of really aggressive squirrels. And I'm wondering if squirrels are becoming more aggressive. And I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this. The New Yorker squirrels. more aggressive and I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this. No, the New Yorker squirrels. Yeah, Halle, the New Yorker squirrels. You're going to have to cut this whole thing out.

It's so embarrassing. It's not going anywhere, baby. It's not going anywhere. The thing that's funny about it, Sammy, is that you're saying that as a joke, but like they actually, I can almost hear their cute little squirrel New York accent. They're around people like all the time right so okay i they can't be getting them being this bad though when i lived in new york before i lived in new york for three

years and i it's gotten much more crowded since then it hasn't gotten more crowded but like something has changed with the squirrels as a counter counter, though, the first time I went to New York, I was 16, which is over 10 years ago. And... Why did I... The question is if squirrels are changing over time, so it is important. It is important. What do people think?

It was really recent? Oh, man. I went to New York when I was 16. And we were eating. This was my family. And we were eating lunch in the park. And a squirrel jumped on my sister's shoulder and tried to take her sandwich. So that was my first impression of New York squirrels.

It's a New Yorker squirrel. It's a New Yorker squirrel. They are like that. They run up to you. And then they get up on their hind legs. New Yorker squirrel. They are like that. They're like, they run up to you and then they get up on their hind legs. They act like they're about to fight you. Like fist fight you.

And they make eye contact with you and they approach you. And it's like, I don't know. You have to be careful about the squirrels. You have to avoid them in a way that I've never had to be worried about a squirrel contact in my life. Anyway, they're a fucking mess.

So beware of the squirrels, you guys, in New York City. Beware, guys. Listeners, beware. Listeners, beware. Listeners, beware. Emily, what about you? Tell us about your week. Well,

to keep on the animal theme, I suppose, Theo, little kitten boy, who you all have heard about, got out on Sunday, and it's off, you know, I'll cut to the chase. Everything's fine. I hate, my mom does this all the time where she'll start to tell a story and

Like it's good storytelling But it's also like yeah like tell me everything's Okay and then tell me that story Too much tension Kid's okay he's fine he's Great honestly except that's the antithesis Of this podcast true sorry Um but

He yeah he got out and And uh Joel my partner and I were Out of town in the But yeah he got out And Joel My partner and I were out of town In the desert Safely, COVID safely But we're like Fuck he's not gotten out before And you know it's close

We should just fucking come home And deal with it and then we can go back out Which was a pain in the ass but we drove in immediately we show up we go to the backyard we like call his name he pops his little head out from behind the fence he was right the fuck there no problems but he's smart and sneaky and did

not want to be brought inside because he was having a great old time she spent like two hours trying to coax him to come close enough to us so we could get him inside and every oh my god Joel was playing with him with a little toy and a string and he would get he would play trying to coax him to come close enough to us so we could get him inside. And every... Oh, my God. Joel was playing with him with a little toy and a string. And he would get...

He would play, come close, close, close, close, close. And as soon as he would get up right next to him, he would just, like, sprint away and then, like, come back. And then sprint away and come back, just being, like, a total little jerk. Oh, he's having a blast. Having a blast. But it was about to get dark,

and we're, like, in the middle of our fucking vacation. I'm trying to get back to the desert So I was like this ends now And he made the mistake Of walking close to me And I Grabbed I pinned him down and I was gonna grab His neck scruff cause that really like

Chills out that you like let's Be able to carry cats so I pinned him down And he was like all good Went to grab his scruff and he, I like saw a flip switch, a switch flip. Thank you. Flip that switch. Flip those words. A switch flips.

I saw a switch flip in him where like the feral cat that he once was fully came out and he and also he's a little guy who's also never had his claws clipped and is like a fucking little like demon and he turned and like started trying to scratch his way out of my hand

and at this point he was still being okay he like started scratching me but I was like oh fuck but it was like it's now or never like if I drop him now we're not getting him all night because he's gonna be like oh fuck this I'm out you had to commit so I had to commit

I'm holding on to him Joel I think thought that Theo was like really fucking me up so he was like neither of us remember exactly how this happened. He was like, give me the cat, open the door.

So we like somehow hand Theo off to Joel. And at this point, I think Theo starts really freaking out because he's like, why aren't they putting me down? Like, this isn't how this is supposed to go. So he bit Joel's wrist, like sunk his little vampire teeth in.

Oh no. All of this, by the way, was like way more traumatic for me and Joel than it was for him. He's, again, completely fine. Also, I'm sure, like, both of us are very experienced cat owners. I'm sure we're gonna get listeners. I mean, maybe we're not. Listeners, you're amazing. I love you. But I already have had

people be like, well, you really should grab them by the scruff for you. And it's like like i fucking obviously this didn't go how i wanted it to go like i understand this was not ideal i tried the scruff i know the scruff trick okay i tried i tried the scruff trick um but yeah so he let him we managed to like fucking throw him in the house get him off us we both cleaned our wounds within five minutes he came out and let us pet him and was like oh what's going on are we upset like what like did not care not injured not upset he's fucking fine little asshole who i'm obsessed with um but and i'm like fine everybody's fine but joel had to get a tetanus shot and go on antibiotics because

cat mouths are fucking disgusting. Oh, my God. Guys, correspondent Joel for reference. Correspondent Joel had a true horror event happen to him. Cat mouths, yeah, they're disgusting. And like more than half of cat bites become infected because they are so nasty. So if you get bit by a cat, talk to your doctor.

He's going to be just fine. Everybody's fine. But it was an alarming circumstance that we went through. That sounds very stressful but I'm so relieved that everybody's okay.

Everybody's okay. mean everybody's okay okay ish it honestly it brought us all closer we all sort of understand everybody's deal a little bit better it was quite a ride quite a ride who boy

who boy well I've got some news for you I'm about to take you on another wild ride. I know. I am so excited about this one. Me, too. I'm really pumped. I'm I'm fucking pumped.

I'm pumped. I'm pumped as well. This week's movie was listener chosen. movie was uh listener chosen paranormal activity 2 came out in 2010 directed by todd williams written by michael toad williams toad maybe honestly i'm questioning every name who are we to say we obviously are bad at this um written by by Michael R. Perry, Christopher Landon, Tom Pabst. Produced by Jason Blum and Oren Peli, who directed the original. Starring Sprague Graydon, Brian Boland, Molly Ephraim, Katie Featherston, and Mika Sloat. Those last two were from the first one, yeah? Yeah, they are.

Oh my god! Oh my god. The first one is maybe the scariest, true scariest for me that we've done, potentially. It's stuck with me the most. It's the one I think about the most. Listeners, if you haven't listened,

go back and listen to our Paranormal Activity episode with Jess Jarden. That was a very spooky one. Very spooky. I was going to ask that if you need to watch the first one in order to understand the second one. I mean, I'm sure you'd get spooked.

You'd get sufficiently spooked without seeing the first one, but it does build upon the first one. Okay. So, yes. Good to know. And I bet you have trivia related to this, but I'm curious to know how this compares, like, on the filmmaking perspective and, like, budget from the first. Because this would have been, like, the first was so successful that I'm sure they would have gotten a real budget for this one. Right.

Which often, like, paradoxically ruins the movie because they all have too much money and then all the creativity like the magic of it was that it was like creatively and cheaply it was unusual yeah hello everyone it's our favorite time of the week cocktail hour we have a good one for you this episode it is called the big sister it is perfect for guzzling down if you are scared you are being haunted by a demon or if a family member is being haunted by a demon so if that is something you're worried about just whip up one of these bad boys um the ingredients are two and a half ounce cranberry juice, one ounce fresh squeezed orange juice, one ounce ginger beer, one and a half ounce citrus vodka, a quarter ounce simple syrup, and a few drops of fresh lemon juice. If you're feeling ambitious, you can also make a garnish using three to four sugared cranberries. a garnish using three to four sugared cranberries. So to make this cocktail, it's pretty simple.

You just add all these ingredients to a cocktail shaker with a handful of ice. You shake three to four times, pour over a glass filled with ice and add your garnish of sugared cranberries. Cheers. Before we get into trivia, I'm going to tell you guys about my viewing experience because good lord. Yeah, I'm so... I did not envy this. The things that Sammy puts herself through for the good of this podcast, I mean, wow. Okay, so... I couldn't do it. Listeners as... so i couldn't do it listeners as and i don't and i don't do it

i couldn't and i don't i choose not to and i don't i i do it for you i do it for you but um so as listeners know i am in washington um i don't know if i've said this part, but I'm here for work and I'm in a big rental house living with all of my coworkers. So this past weekend when I had to watch this movie is the first time that they all went out of town. They were shooting in a different part of Washington. So they stayed in a hotel for three nights in a row. And on the very first night that they were gone, I watched Paranormal Activity 2. I'll say again, it's a big house. This is a five bedroom house.

I've never lived in a big house, so I didn't realize how much noise they make. It was also... Give us a feel for the surroundings of this house. Sort of aesthetic of this house sort of aesthetic of this house i did that one like little silver lining was it's basically the house from the rental so i was like thank fucking god the movie this week wasn't the rental because i would have actually been so scared like you this this the amount of fear i felt watching this movie was different from like horror movie fear for me like this is maybe what you guys feel when you watch horror movies but I was actually like I felt like I was in

danger because it was also the first like storm that we've that we've had here in Washington so it was like the house was making new noises and it's big. I and oh my God, I like I didn't think to like check that all the doors were locked until after I had watched the movie. And so after you go around and lock all the doors through each dark room, turn on the light and like check the corners and make sure there's a door in every room because it's like goes out to balconies and shit. It was so scary and it's like in the middle of nowhere and full of windows with no curtains yeah no curtains is the craziest part of this a true a true nightmare um so that was it i mean it really added to the viewing experience but boy oh boy were you were you kind of like subconsciously or consciously like planning your escape the whole time were you like i could get in my car and i could just drive

to la like um uh not my not that probably would have been smarter but i do have a door in my room to outside and i was thinking like i could run outside and hide like in the garden under the stairs. That's good. I have also thought about the rental every time I've stayed anywhere else since we did that movie, which is thankfully we're in a pandemic and it hasn't been much, but it scares the shit out of me. And so I can't even imagine feeling like you're there. I would have really lost it if that had been my first viewing of the rental that night.

I would have been really upset. But OK, some trivia. And yeah, we'll start with the budget. So the budget was three million, which is still quite low. But let me remind you, the budget of the original was $15,000. Oh, my God. Which is so wild. I had somehow lodged in my brain that I was like, it was like $500,000.

No, $15,000. The two main characters were paid $500 each in the first one. That is insane. Hope they got paid more for this one. I hope so too. I mean they must have if they returned. I feel like I would have been really pissed if I got paid $500 and it became like the most successful movie of all time

and made so much money. I don't know if they had I don't know if they had back end points. I hope they did. Oh good point. But so the budget on this one was $3 million and and it made 177 million. So still a pretty great return. So this movie came out in 2010. The original came out in 2009.

So they were right on top of each other, back to back. So as they were producing the first one, the studio already, I think, they greenlit a second one immediately because they were like, this is going to be good. This is going to be good for us. This is going to be good for us. They wanted to capitalize on all the energy and excitement around it. Are there three? Four? There are six.

Six. Holy shit. But they are done, apparently. I have not seen past this one, but apparently the whole mythology and story finishes, so they're probably won't be returning to it, but who fucking knows?

I'm sure they'll reboot it. They always find a reason to reboot this shit. they always do but this this trivia just really made me laugh um kevin grudert was set to direct but was forced to uh contractually forced to direct saw the final chapter instead and I just liked that it used the word forced like imagine me forced to direct a Saw movie honestly a huge nightmare for me a huge nightmare for me

but I guess they were competing studios and so they put him in a room with a bear trap on his face and made him pick between paranormal or Saw wait with a bear trap on his face and made him pick between Paranormal or Saw. Wait,

Saw, the final chapter, that came out in 2010? That feels like so long ago. I thought Saw was more recent than that. I guess not. No, I remember watching Saw in high school. Good lord. I guess I remember that too. God, fuck, we're old. Sorry. I was 16, you know, who knows how long ago.

Who knows? It was a few months. Who knows, man? And I didn't know this, but Jason Blum of Blumhouse, I think he produced the first one as well, but apparently he passed on the Blair Witch, and so that's why he was like, I better fucking produce this

one which I thought was kind of funny he's like not making that mistake twice thank you very much um that's all I got so cool shall we watch this trailer oh god I just remembered we have to do that

I fucking don't want to but I'm going to oh god this is your room Just remember, we have to do that. No. I fucking don't want to, but I'm going to. Oh, God. This is your room, Hunter. Hi, Jacko. Who is that? It's your new kitty.

So weird. I totally thought we lost it. Somebody broke in and trashed the house. Christy thought it was a ghost. I know you guys are freaked out, okay? And I'm going to take care of you guys. What's your take on this whole ghost situation? I think it's awesome. This is the freakiest thing that happened to me last night.

This is the door closing by itself. What? What? you guys got lucky with that holy shit we got Holy shit. We got so lucky. Oh my God. Oh, thank God. Oh my God. Thank God. Honestly, that's how all trailers should be. Why are not all trailers like this trailer? It gave me, I had like chills on my whole body for most of it, even though it was so quick. That was like the most scared I've been

in a really long time. I know, my heart is like going like this. Fucking shit. These movies are so, how do they do it? What I know, my heart is like going like this. Holy fucking shit. These movies are so, how do they do it? What is it about it that is like so in your bones scary? It's such effective filmmaking because it's so simple and it's so like, it's just your home and like security cameras

and like this could be your home. God. Well, especially now with, well, I wonder if they ever get into this, but with like Nest and those security cameras and like this could be your home god well especially now with well i wonder if they get ever get into this but with like nest and those security cameras are so ubiquitous now too and like did you guys see that news article about how amazon was amazon was piloting a um security camera where it flies it's like a drone and it will like fly around your house oh god did you guys see that's awful doesn't seem like why would anyone ever buy that to be in your home yeah it's like you are having people over for cocktails you're like oh sorry ignore the drone it's just my flying security camera

in case you're like really scared someone's like at the door and you want to like double check so you like send your little drone security cameras for that if you really need like somewhere in your yeah or like somewhere else in your house i guess it's like your house is so huge that's what it's for it's for people whose houses are like so massive it's like keep the drone on the fucking fourth floor that you never go to right so you can like fly it around and make sure no one's in there i don't know like wouldn't the person see the drone and just avoid it i don't know like this doesn't make any sense anyway this is very scary very scary oh no oh sammy how did you how did you do it i don't know how you do it

how does anyone do it i don't understand i don't get it it's too scary okay well let's let's just start let's just fucking dive right in let's dive dive in. So, okay, we start with the old text that says, Paramount Pictures would like to thank the families of the deceased and the Carlsbad Police Department. That's not going to get us again. Not dissimilar to how Emily wants stories told. I guess the opposite of telling you that everything is going to be okay. not dissimilar to how Emily wants stories told. Tell, tell, I guess the opposite of telling you that everything is going to be okay. Either way,

cut to the chase. They do cut to the chase. So we are, you know, told that everybody dies. And then we cut to a family coming home from the hospital with a new baby. His name is Hunter. The mom's name is Christiey. Dad is Daniel.

They have like a home video camera. The person filming is, her name is Allie. She is the like teenage daughter, Daniel's daughter from a previous marriage, Christy's stepdaughter. previous marriage, Christy's stepdaughter. They're coming in with the new baby and everyone's excited and happy. There's a nanny. Her name's Martine and they have a German shepherd

dog. The fact that you had to emphasize dog makes me think that's not a good sign. It's never a good sign. It's a horror movie. They're all kind of talking to camera a bit, kind of like they're giving messages to Hunter for when he grows up. Like, I'm your big sister.

And like, you're never allowed in my room. Ha ha. That kind of thing. But this is, you know, we're seeing obviously these are found footage films and so that's the logic of where this footage is coming from um and then katie comes over from paranormal activity one uh and she is the aunt so christy is her sister and at the end of one she killed her boyfriend yes so and was possessed by a demon the end of one, she killed her boyfriend? Yes. And was possessed by a demon.

She was possessed by a demon, killed her boyfriend. And disappeared and never to be seen again. Except for right now. It's a prequel, baby. So this happened before. This happened before. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Ooh. Got it. Well, that makes more sense. But it's it's it was it is kind of fun because my brain is thinking like, well, wait, if something bad happened to her sister, like, why wouldn't she have an idea? Yeah. Yeah. And so but they answer that. So it's. It's clever. I like the way that they structure this. So it's clever. I like the way that they structure this movie.

And wait, just to clarify, I don't know if I missed this, but so Hunter the baby and then has a teen sister, Allie? Allie, yes, who is from a different marriage. So it's her half brother, the dad's daughter from his previous marriage um and so through this home video footage it's kind of like time is passing we see that hunter is getting older he's probably i have no idea six months a year young he's still a baby he's still in a crib um that's important And we see that their house gets broken into and everything gets turned upside down. Like the house is basically trashed, but nothing is gone. And so it's like footage of the daughter like filming like this is so weird. Like what happened?

And they're like, this feels like really gross. Someone was like in here going through all of our stuff. And the only thing missing is that necklace my sister gave me. Oh, God. Here we go. One outside, one in the baby's room, one in the living room, one in the kitchen, and one kind of in the entryway by the front door. And outside they have a pool. And then we get the same from the first movie, the text saying night number one, August 7th, 2006, 1.37 a.m. And we're just going through each of those camera views, just like still, silent, night vision, dark.

And you're just scanning the frame like, what's going to be there? It's like just that alone is scary enough. I feel like nothing ever really needs to happen. Just watching security cam footage is really scary. Yeah. And nothing happens the first night. And it does the thing where it like it really sticks to like night two, night three, night four, night eight.

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So the next morning, the dog we see through the security camera is clawing at a basement door. Sniffing, clawing. Nobody notices. This dog is really focused on this door. If I had a nickel for every time a dog clawed at a basement door. You'd be rich. I'd have a few nickels. Rich.

Rich. You might have a dollar. So, okay. I'd have a few nickels. Rich. Rich. You might have a dollar. So, okay. Then the next night, again, we're going through each of those camera views, lingering on each shot. And then we hear a loud baby cry, Hunter crying. And Katie goes in and gets him. So I guess Katie was staying

the night. Seems like they're close, these sisters, and so she I think was babysitting. And nothing happens again. She just comforts him, gets him back to sleep. Next morning, the whole family is downstairs making eggs and

bacon big breakfast katie's there mika is there and mika and ally have like a moment of kind of bonding over their her video camera because she's filming stuff and of course we know that he films stuff in the first one and so it's kind of like a fun little like he's getting the idea from her here oh and as Mika is like in the room text is superimposed over him

60 days before the death of Mika Sloat so scary scary it's so weird to just see what someone was doing 60 days before you know they die. Mm-hmm. And it's really creepy to think of, like, Paramount Studios sanctioning that. Like, if anyone actually ever thought it was real.

Mm-hmm. She says something like, thanks for, you know, watching Hunter. Thanks for lending me your girlfriend to watch Hunter, Mika. They have, like, a nice family dynamic. There's like a perfectly average middle class family in Carlsbad. Nice, like big house with the pool. Everyone's seemingly pretty happy. And then Christy and Katie go into the baby's room to like have a moment together.

And Christy just says how she's still feeling pretty weird about the break-in and it like just makes her feel like really unsettled and um she says it's i feel like there's still something in me feels like they're still here like watching me and she says it reminds me of when kind of reminds me of when we were kids like that feeling we used to get and katie kind of doesn't engage and is like oh yeah like katie doesn't seem like she wants to have that conversation um so the next day they're um looking at photos and like going through old photo albums. Then Christy's like, oh my God, look at this photo I found of your aunt Katie.

And Hawkeye viewers will notice it is the same photo that she finds in her attic in the first one. Oh, so the parents and Allie are both going out this evening and so Martine will be watching baby hunter and at night there's a noise downstairs Martine goes down to investigate she's looking in each room she's freaked out and then there's a huge crash upstairs and hunter starts screaming and crying she um runs up to grab him the baby and the dog are both looking and at the same spot in the room that there's no there's nothing there but the baby is scream crying looking and the dog is like barking and growling at this spot. Martine picks Hunter up, runs him downstairs,

grab some sage and start saging the house. And she's like, not a bad idea, Martine. And she's like in Spanish, like saying prayers, I suppose. And at this moment,

Daniel and Christie come home and are like, for some reason, really angry with her. And they grab Hunter and they're like, Daniel's like, Martine, like, we've told you not to do this. Like, you're scaring Hunter. And what is this kid fucking like six months old? Yeah. So she's done this before. Like, what does that mean?

I don't know. It's weird. But I guess it has to happen for the story to move forward but uh but so um he's like hunter shouldn't be breathing this stuff nobody should and like what is sage like i think it's fine um and then they fire they fire her they fire martine for this honestly martine good for you yeah hopefully getting out just in time yeah get out of here martine um okay so the next night we hear the baby start crying it's it's looking at that same spot again. He, Hunter. It.

It. Oh, boy. Hunter is looking at the same spot, crying. Christy comes in, lifts him up, is kind of shaking him, not shaking, bouncing to calm him down. Sorry, can you guys tell i don't know any babies it's crying she comes in and shakes it

i'm not a baby person okay i don't know baby terminology you shake a baby right shake it you shake it when it's sad move it around you shake a baby right shake it you shake it when it's sad move it around um but so she's carrying him around the room kind of getting him to to relax he does a little bit she looks in the back she goes in the bathroom with him and we see from our pov the mobile above his bed starts turning. Mobile? I don't know. I say mobile, but then some people say mobile. It's a classic Caribbean Caribbean situation. Mobile? I think mobiles are kind of scary. Well, it starts turning of its own volition and she's in the other room and doesn't see it. And when she steps back into the room, it stops. And so the spot that the baby and the dog have been looking at is in the baby's room?

Yes. Okay. It's by a window. And it seems that Christy is getting this same feeling and she looks scared and she approaches the window and she's staring out the window looking scared and we just sit on her

kind of concentrating staring out the window for a while which all these moments are so tense just like the waiting for things to happen and there is a loud bang on the window we don't see what it is. It scares her. Hunter's crying again.

We cut to the next morning, Daniel scooping up a dead bird that flew into the window. And he's making fun of her like, oh, you were so scared. Like, it's just a bird. A running theme in these movies. Yeah. Daniel's just an asshole. I mean, I don't know he's not just an asshole but he's that's certainly part of his personality he's more he's more than just an

asshole he's a well-rounded asshole than an asshole but that's part of it it's he's layered but asshole is the layer we see the most of okay got it christy uh the next night hears a loud crash downstairs goes down to investigate and a pot has fallen off one of those pot hangers that you like hang above an island or whatever the like floating pot hanger thing we hang them on hooks do you guys know i'm talking about how much do i need to describe it like why are you still describing it they get it We hang them on hooks. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? How much do I need to describe it? Like, why are you still describing it? They get it.

Like a pot for cooking the handle. It has a hole, a hook on the bar. Imagine an S-shaped hook. Part of it's on the thing attached to the ceiling. You can get it at Ikea. You can get it at Home Depot. You see them in houses. You see them in houses. You see them in restaurants. You see them

around. News flash for you guys. There's one at this house. Okay. Ellen's not happy about that after this scene. We actually have some in our house too. Our apartment. Oh no. Oh no. So she sees that a pot has fallen off this rack

goes to hang it back up and is again looking out a window kind of transfixed looking out the window for a while quiet staring and then the pot falls again and she it's a big jump scare she screams and runs upstairs and then we cut to the next day where the whole family again is in the pool katie and mika are back over and um daniel says to Mika like oh haven't you heard like we have ghosts now and is making a big joke about it and Mika's like please elaborate and he says yeah a pot fell so it's ghosts apparently and Katie and Christy are both like getting defensive and say like, you know, weird things happened to us when we were kids. Okay. And like, it's not funny.

And this was like a stressful thing that happened when we were kids. And it's just kind of feeling your child. So fucking don't be a dick. Then Allie, the stepdaughter, is kind of into the ghost thing you know like she's like a she's like oh if we have ghosts like that's cool and she's talking to her dad about it and he says like don't egg her on she has like pregnant mommy or like postpartum mommy hormones and she like needs we can't like feed into like she's having some paranoia and oh my god yeah he says something really rude about like postpartum hormones that's like i love doing i

love how doing like the hardest thing that a human body could ever do is constantly used against women yeah right it's always like that's like a weakness. And it's like, fuck you. It's insane what our bodies have to do. You would not be alive currently if this didn't happen. You would not be alive.

Also, if you had to do it, you would collapse. You would be so... You would really... I be i can't you would hate it honestly you would hate it i can't even tell you you would hate it childbirth but there is like a kind of not tender moment but an emotional moment where ali says like well why does it have to be a bad thing if it's a ghost and she says what if it's mom and it just kind of hangs there in the air for a moment and so and it's never really revisited

again but that's like what we hear of that her her mom has died uh so okay that night some more dogs growling at at empty spaces it's really scary and the next day daniel it feels bad and basically asks christy out on a date and he's like i I'm sorry, I've been an asshole and like I want to I want to take you out. So, OK, so they're going out on a hot date tonight and Ali is going to watch Hunter. But Ali invites her boyfriend over. So she has a boyfriend. I don't know his name, but they decide. She's like feeling this ghost thing.

And so they decide to play, you guessed it, Ouija. You're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to do that. That's not allowed. Wait. In Paranormal Activity 1, is it Katie who freaks out about the Ouija board? Or is it Micah? Micah does a Ouija board and Katie freaks out because the Ouija board or is it Micah? Micah does a Ouija board

and Katie freaks out because they were told by someone to not. A demonologist I believe. Or maybe it wasn't a demonologist. They couldn't get a demonologist. They had like a paranormal person. They had like a step down. A step down. It's just a step sideways.

It's a ghost, not demons. It's a lateral. We wouldn't want to offend anyone who's listening. It's a lateral career. Paranormal. Copy that. Okay, so they play Ouija and

Allie, you know, they sit down and Allie says like, what do you want, spirit who is here? And the board spells out. They're kind of like, are you moving it? Are you moving it? No, I'm not moving it.

It spells P-U-S-S. And then she hits him and goes, oh, come on. And he starts laughing. He wants pussy. But then it starts moving again. And now the boyfriend is like, I'm not doing this. And she's like, go. The pussy joke was me, but this is how I do this.

And she doesn't believe him. She's like, oh, come on, stop. And doesn't really take him seriously, and it spells out H-U-N-T, and then she stops it and is like, stop, and he's like, I swear I wasn't doing that. Oh, scary. Then it cuts to later that night.

We're seeing the time stamp. It's like 1130. We see Allie sleeping on the couch. Her boyfriend has left. And from the view on like the living room camera, we can see the basement door. No. And we see like a shadow come out from under the door moving towards the couch and it just like moves on top of her and then there's a loud bang that wakes her up and she like sits up and looks around and sees

that the front door is wide open and goes to close it and then is like walking to go upstairs to go to bed. And then there's another loud bang outside of the front door. And it has kind of one of those, it's like a glass above the door. So she leans over so she can see outside the front door. She sees obviously there's nothing there. And goes to open it again to check. And goes to step outside to check, and the front door slams closed behind her,

locking her out, and Hunter starts crying, and she's like banging on the door, trying to get in. She can't get in. All the doors are locked. Also, I'm sorry, can you imagine waking up on your couch,

your front door is open, and you go, okay, let me just shut that and go upstairs to bed. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Nope. God. That's a big nope for me. That's a huge nope. And then we go to the camera in Hunter's room and he's laying in his crib and we see him slowly get dragged. Like his body starts moving from one side of the crib to the other.

Oh, no. He then like wakes up and kind of climbs out of his crib or maybe there's a jump cut and we just see him walking down the stairs and he opens the basement closet baby hunter does how do they film babies like this

he must be like two right you guys remember it I don't know but he's in a crib but he can walk you're still in a crib kind of when you can be but yeah i feel like babies start walking when they're a year when they're like a year around a year usually is when when the baby walks when the baby walks okay so he's at the age where he's he's he's at the age where he's still in a, but he can walk and he can open a door and he walks down the stairs and he opens the basement door. He's not like, you know, walking like a pro.

He's walking like a baby. But he like walks downstairs. I'm having a really hard time. Not this. The picture of this is so funny to me. Like we just watch a baby like fully walk through the house like an adult and open a door yeah all i can think of is like those like animatronic babies like from like ali mcbeal or something it's exactly like that but i but i bet it is scary no it is scary he

opens the closet door and is looking in there and then the parents come home from their date and they're like, what the fuck? They're yelling for Allie. She's not there. She's not responding. And they just like pick up Hunter, who's crying again. And then Allie comes in crying and is like, I was at the neighbor's.

I was trying to call you guys. Like, I got locked out. Something happened. Like, the door closed behind me, I swear there's like a ghost. I think something's happening. Daniel's not having it. Definitely not buying that. And like we trusted you.

Like you can't leave the house. Like when you're watching Hunter, like this is serious. This is worse than saging the house. This is worse than saging for sure. But we can't fire you. You're our daughter. the house. This is worse than saging for sure but we can't fire you. You're our daughter. Gah! So

the next day Allie's like really looking into some she's doing some research. She's learning about ghost versus demon and she's like kind of our thing our experiences have been you know kind of feeling

like they're have malicious intent which might mean that it's a demon and she's talking to her boyfriend and her boyfriend's like well what's the difference listeners we know because we've talked about it before but i'll remind you a ghost is a person who is dead a spirit of a person a. A demon is a non-human entity. It's much worse. And so does that mean that ghosts don't have malicious intent? I think.

Like as a rule? You would have had to have picked a bone with that human. Yeah, I guess it's like how humans can have malicious intent, like in the same way. But not like randomly, I guess, is the deal. Like, not for fun. Yeah, I think so. Probably not. So a ghost could be, like, Malfoy could become a ghost and be a bad person ghost.

But he's not Voldemort. Do we like this metaphor? It's tracking perfectly so far. Great. Then I'm done. Well, so my main question, though, in these movies is like, okay, sure, they're ghosts, they're demons. But if there's going to be demons, can there be like fairies or something like good to counteract the demon? Like, why can there be like non-human evil spirits but not non-human good spirits

there can be Henley there can be also I would say Henley I mean why are there whales and not you know like big giant birds that swim do you know what I mean like some things just are and some things aren't can we spell it

out for you Henley you know one thing one thing existing some things are doesn't mean that something else has to are you sure though i know i'm not but in my But in my experience, in my experience, some things are. Some things are. Some things aren't. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Write this down. Wait, wait, wait. Let me get this straight. Let me get this straight.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so some things are. Yes. Cups, trees. Cups. Blankets. Blankets. The things that you know. Politics. Yes, the things that you know. Yes, those things are. Money.

Yes. And then some things aren't. Some things aren't. Which we can't even talk about because we don't know them. We don't even know. We don't even know. Our brains can't comprehend.

That is so cool that our brains can't comprehend what we don't even know. That's fucking cool, man. Also, Henley, though, if you're dying to see fairies, you could watch True Blood. Are fairies in True Blood? They are. True Blood gets crazy. Also, I feel like a lot of times fairies aren't good.

Yeah, that's true, actually. I think they might be bad. Fairies are mercurial and bad a lot but i guess i guess what but only when they're spelled f-a-e yeah that's the bad yes that's the fairies yeah let's take that out of context i think i think basically what i'm trying to get at is that demons are really mined in our creative um like you know like there's a lot of stuff about demons that's pretty fucking cool and there's not

a lot of like cool stuff about like good spirits I feel like anytime something's good it's like anytime it's good it's cheesy and bad and corny and like dumb and I want someone to like figure out a way to make it not cheesy and bad and corny huge insult to Santa Henley also I guess someone to like figure out a way to make it not cheesy and bad. Huge insult to Santa, Henley.

Jeez. Also, I guess there's like God and Jesus and angels. Yeah, Henley, did you forget about God and Jesus and angels? I'm sorry. Henley, did you forget about God and Jesus? God is like in charge of the demons and the angels, though. God's like a step above. Angels are like usually kind of like lame, too.

I think it depends on what version of demons you subscribe to. If we're talking demons in terms of heaven and hell. Right, right, right. Well, where are these demons coming from? I also don't think God is in charge of them, right? God isn't in charge of demons. God's not in charge of demons. Satan.

Satan? Satan? I've never heard of him. Oh, my God charge of demons. Satan. Satan? Satan? Never heard of him. Oh my god, is this a religious podcast now? This is the best conversation we've ever had on this podcast. So deep.

I think God accidentally made the demons. I think they were a byproduct of everything else he was doing and then he was like fucked up and also made demons. It was a goof. Well, if God created everything he he did create he he did create he's white too you better believe he's white he white man he did it i love my white male god god oh wait that's really that's that i see that perfectly as a caption to like the basic bitch drinking her pumpkin spice latte yes oh boy okay um okay so did that answer your question, Henley? Yeah, have we cleared it all up? Yeah, we're clear.

Great. So, okay, Allie's doing her research on ghost versus demon, and she reads, if someone makes a deal with a demon for wealth or power, it may require the soul of the firstborn male. Oh, my. Uh-oh. My money's on Tad.

Mm-hmm. So, Allie is now, like, certain that it's a demon. She's watched some of the security footage back. She sees the door closing behind her and is like, that's absolutely, like, there was no... Teen girls, man. Teen girls are the fucking future. Mm-hmm. They are the future. She's like, that's absolutely like there was no girls, man. Teen girls are the fucking future. They are the future. She's like, there was no wind.

She is like, maybe Martine. Martine was right. And there's a fucking demon. Christy is also getting like more freaked out. And she brings it up again with Katie and says, I've been I've been having this feeling that whatever was happening to us when we were little is happening again and Katie has a very negative reaction to this

and is like I don't want to talk about that like what I remember from that time is like oh because Christy says like I don't really remember anything from that time and Katie says I remember that you like became a different person um that mom and dad were like so worried about you i remember feeling so scared all the time and she says and i remember

that the more we talked about it and the more scared we were the worse it got so what you have what you gotta do is just ignore it and it'll go away. Is Christy older or is Katie older? I think Christy's older. Christy's older. I'm not positive, but I think so. And she says, drop it or you're going to end up like mom. Don't know what that means.

And we won't in this movie, but maybe in later ones. So that night, or no, that day, Christy is, she's just on edge. She's looking like she maybe hasn't been sleeping well, and she's in the kitchen. She puts on the kettle for some tea, and she's sitting at the kitchen island

reading a magazine and is just kind of looking around nervously, feeling really uneasy, and then all of the cabinets burst open at the same time. Everything flies out. It's so loud. She just like covers her head and screams and then stands up and after it's done, stands up and screams, leave me alone and like runs out of the room.

And then the kettle starts boiling and whistling and she like has to go back into the room. And you can see that she's like so scared and like goes in and turns the kettle off um and then we cut to her upstairs putting on makeup and ally comes home and is like christy are you okay like you're acting kind of weird. And Christy, like, she looks scared. But she's like, no, no, no. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. And she's like, what are you talking about? Like, why are you whispering?

And what do you mean? And Christy comes close to her and says, like, if we talk about this, it's going to get worse. Like, we have to pretend that everything's okay like that's the only way that things will get better and he's like what like what are you talking about and she's like we're sorry we can't talk about this we can't talk about this so she's she's decided to go this this route this is definitely like a metaphor about wasp culture and like, don't talk about your problems and they'll go away. When in fact, they just get worse. It did work for the spider in my computer.

Just throwing that out there. That's true. Then we see that Allie is doing more research. And she said, what if Christie's great grandmother made a deal with a demon? I've looked through her family tree. It's only girls. And Hunter is the first boy born since the 1930s. Whoa.

Wow. So then we see Daniel putting Hunter to bed. And as he's leaving the room, he leaves the door open halfway, which i guess is normal if you have a baby but it just seems like the creepiest way the creepiest position a door could be in just like all the way open or all the way close yeah like why are we keeping it at this halfway halfway mark that when i was a kid my door was like a little like would be like slightly ajar because i wanted like some light from the hallway me too my door my door is always open i think it is normal but it just looks scary um and then we see through the security cameras it does the old like fast forwardy thing that i

don't think i don't feel like it did enough of in this movie because I remember that being kind of the creepiest part of the first movie was seeing like the counter the time the clock like just running faster through the night it doesn't do that too much but it does it here and it does it in Hunter's room where Hunter and the dog are and seeing a dog in

like fast motion like kind of like moving a little bit is like really creepy um and then we see from the the the other security camera the basement door opening up oh god Here we fucking go. And the dog hears it, runs downstairs. This is, I think, at like 3 a.m. And runs downstairs. It's barking at the empty spot where the basement door opened. Barking, barking, barking.

And then the dog's body is hidden behind a wall thing for a moment. You just see the back half of the dog. And then you see it get dragged. Its feet are pulled. And it makes a bad noise. A very bad noise. No, no, no. And Daniel runs downstairs and finds the dog. And, no, no. And Daniel runs downstairs

and finds the dog and she's not dead. He says, like, something happened to Abby. Like, I gotta take... I don't know what's wrong. She's not okay. Something happened. And Allie and Daniel take the dog

to the vet. And so they leave in the middle of the night. So now it's just Christy and Hunter alone in the house. Uh-oh. And Christy is alone in the kitchen. And there's a noise upstairs. It sounds a lot of like footsteps. Like you hear like what could be footsteps.

It's just like thuds so she goes upstairs to check on hunter he's in his crib but the light the like night light next to his bed has gone out she goes to turn it back on it flickers and turns right back off and then she is pulled from the room with an invisible force by her feet. We see her fling. She's like holds on to the doorway is like, no, no, let me go. Let me go. Pulled out.

We see her being like pulled down the stairs, like hitting each rung of the stairs. And she's like, no, no, no, no. Let me go. Let me go. Gets pulled into the basement and the door slams. No camera in the basement. No camera in the basement. No camera in the basement. We don't know what's going on in the basement.

Then we see the clock moving fast again, moves forward about an hour, and then she just walks out of the basement. No! No! Wow, cool.

No! The next no wow cool um the next day daniel is leaving for a work thing and he says something to ally like well you got to please stay here and watch hunter like christy barely got any sleep last night like she's resting like she needs to rest and ally's like really freaked out and for some reason looks inside the basement door and sees that it's got it's like covered in claw marks on the inside and she is like what the fuck is going on she's got her her little she's either filming with her cell phone or maybe her oh no yeah she's filming with something and she goes upstairs and we see christy in hunter's room just staring out of the window at the place where like the dog was barking before ally moves towards hunter and christy turns around and screams don't touch him and And she like, Allie

runs out of the room. Christy slams the door on her and she's like talking to the camera like something's going on. Like, I don't know what it is. Like, Christy's not herself. A little while later, she goes back up and like creaks open Hunter's door. Christy's sleeping

and she sees that she has a big old bite mark on her leg on her inner thigh that's where the demon gets that's where it gets in no um so then the dad comes home from work and he's like honey i'm home and ally is so freaked out she's like dad you can like, Dad, you can't go up there. You can't go up there. And he's like, what? Like, I need to go check on Hunter.

And she's screaming and like pleading like, Dad, I need to show you this footage. Something is really wrong. And I think she shows him the footage of obviously Christy being dragged by an invisible force. Because after she, we don't see her showing him. But after he's seen it he he's very freaked out also he like finally it believes he gets it because we already know that ali has like looked up the security camera footage yeah their house right yeah um so so they decide to call back Martine. Like, okay. God fucking damn it.

Because she saged earlier? Is that the reason? I think they just feel like she maybe knows more than they do about ways to deal with evil spirits or something. I don't know. It feels racist. It is. It's definitely, it's not good. But Martine comes back and then we see Allie and Daniel screaming at each other like Allie's like, you can't do that. You can't do that. That's her sister. And he says, if I can transfer it to someone that's a blood relative, I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do that. And he pulls out the photo of Katie that we saw earlier. And Ali's screaming like, that's like, that's my aunt. You can't do that to Katie. And he's like, this is like the only choice we have. Like, I got to do this. Like, I'm doing it. And like, it's not up for discussion. this like i'm doing it and like it's not up for discussion um and so they do some sort of ritual with this photo of katie where they are transferring a demon to her and um there's like a big crazy

scene where it's like almost like an exorcism type thing that's very scary and all the lights in the house go out so now it's all like that night vision where it's green and everyone's eyes are like glowing and it's like very like handheld because now they're using the the you know the the the security cameras i guess would go out and so now it's all handheld like video camera footage of it go they go into the basement um because that's i don't know where she goes i guess and they eventually there's like a very loud rumble like an earthquake but eventually it dies down and it seems like everything's okay and christy is back in her bed sleeping i guess the demon's gone and probably that's the last we'll hear of it probably here's i'm sure we'll we're gonna get there but again i feel like the movies we've done in the past have dealt with us where

it's like like um hellraiser where it's like just because you offer a demon somebody else yeah are they satisfied like what makes you think the team's gonna be like demons don't have to play by any rules they don't have to play by any all you did was just make it worse yeah they're just like oh two humans. Oh, my gosh. We get this one, too? Thank you so much. Thank you.

Thank you. I'll do that next, but I still sort of had some plans. Yeah, exactly. And so then we cut to three weeks later, and we're having another pool party. The whole fam. Mika is not there, but Katie is there. Weird to look at the face of someone that you put a demon upon well i don't think christy knows i think no but the husband does yes he does and ally does but so christy and katie are talking and katie now says like have you still been having

weird things happening to you like how's that all going and going? And Christy says, no, it's been fine. Like, it's actually been really great. Like, past couple weeks, nothing at all weird has happened. And Katie says, like, that's great. But, like, kind of weird things have been happening to me now. So we're, like, overlapping in the time. Oh, that's cool. That is cool. So the end of this story is the

start of theirs damn and so she says like yeah like I'm freaked out enough that I actually even told like Mika about it and um

Christy says you know you should take your own advice. Like talking about it just makes it worse. And it worked for me to just not talk about it. And Katie's like, okay, yeah, you're right. And then we cut to the like opening scene footage of Paranormal Activity 1 of Katie coming home because it starts with her like coming home and mika has a video camera and she's in the same outfit at the pool party so she comes home and mika's got the camera and we get the title that says October 9th, 2006. And we flashback up on security cam footage in their house, in Christy and daniel's house empty rooms baby is crying um daniel is he's fallen asleep on the couch watching tv and from the security camera we see katie standing in the hallway behind him staring at him and he wakes up and like senses someone oh she's covered in blood also by the way

so we're this is after she has killed mika okay okay so it the pair the events of paranormal activity one happen within the events of this this so when the demon comes back to get them it's because they set it on kate like katie comes back as that demon yes that rules um and so daniel like senses something behind him turns and looks she's gone sits back down he's sitting watching tv we go upstairs christy is going to to get to she's got to shake that crying baby shake him and it's like not a funny joke for all the moms who are listening who are so worried about sids it's like all moms talk about is like shaken baby syndrome yeah okay i'm sorry it's not it's not a joke she she bounces bounce appropriately she bounces her baby a normal healthy healthy amount. In a safe way. At the right rate and speed.

Those are the same. You get it. And so we see her bouncing baby Hunter. And then we cut back to a different view on the couch. And we see Katie just like walking quickly towards Daniel from behind, grabs him, snaps his neck. Oh, wow. Doesn't suffer any fools. Doesn't take any time.

No time at all. Not no struggle. Just bam. Done. He's dead. And then she turns around, heads up those stairs, pounded like the same noise we've been hearing. And Christy turns and says, Daniel, is that you?

And we see from the security footage in Hunter's room Katie walks in. There's a moment of her being like, Katie? Katie's again in her pajamas like covered in blood. And Katie like puts her arm out and with like a, a, I guess,

demonic force, like, kind of throws Christy up against a wall, but with such force that it kills her, I think, but Hunter's in her arms, but Hunter does not die, And Katie leans down, picks up Hunter, takes him out of the room. And then it cuts to black. And we get some text that says, Allie returned from a school trip and found the bodies of Christy and Daniel on October 12th, 2006. Katie and Hunter's whereabouts remain unknown. And then there's... abouts remain unknown and then there's what it's it's it stays on a black screen for so long it was like the most stressed i think i was from the whole movie because i was like is there going to

be a scene why aren't the credits happening it's 30 seconds which is long it's a long time that's a really long time. But then it's just credits over silence. But I was really tense for those 30 seconds. Very clever. Last little freaking gotcha. They are doing a good job of building like a story and a mythology. It's interesting.

I'll definitely give them that. I definitely want to know more. I mean, kind of from what i've read of uh reviews and stuff it sounds like people wish they ended a little bit sooner i think six was probably too many but six is a lot but yeah i think a lot of questions get answered i do i do like these earlier iterations where it's like still quite mysterious. I think as we've spoken about previously, the more questions that get answered, the less scary it gets.

That's so true. And people forget that all the time. I feel like constantly filmmakers are thinking they need to like tell the audience everything that happens. And it's actually so much scarier to not know. Yeah. I, I loved that.

I, I think I'm not it doesn't leave me with as many images as the first one did of being like scared in my bed basically i think there's i mean it's interesting because the like telling over zoom is scarier in some ways but i think there was something to us like all being in a room hearing that like they can all like lean in at the same time you know when they heard about the first one. Like around the campfire. Yeah like a campfire story.

But wow fuck. These movies are so scary. They're really scary and I don't recommend watching it alone in a five bedroom house that you're not familiar with on the first storm of the season. Not ideal. Not ideal. And definitely don't watch it if you're not familiar with on the first storm of the season not ideal not ideal and definitely don't watch it if you're like at home alone with a baby yeah don't do that don't

do that don't do that i wouldn't watch this movie with a crowd of people during the day i wouldn't i'm like i never want to i never want to see this ever me either. And you don't have to. And I don't have to. Sammy, that was honestly so good. Thank you so much. Are you going to watch the third one? No. Do you feel excited to watch the third one?

Or do you feel like you don't need to watch any more of these movies? I'll watch it if we do it on the pod. I probably won't otherwise i feel like i want to google the mythology and figure out the whole story but it's like that's the point of the podcast well it sounds like in the 1930s their great-grandmother made a deal with the devil sounds and it's really having bad consequences down the line yeah yep oh sammy thank you for going through that very tough time to bring us this movie.

And listeners, thank you for choosing it, because scary as hell. Fucking scary as hell. Well, listeners, next week, we're doing a fucking nasty torture porn movie. We don't know what it's going to be. The polls are happening now.

But fucking buckle up. It's going to be. The polls are happening now. But fucking buckle up. It's going to be a doozy. I am dreading it. I'm dreading it so much. Yes, it's going to suck. I can't wait, personally. Yuck.

It's going to be nasty. It's going to be so so yuck is the perfect word yuck yuck yuck but we're doing it because it's halloween and what time of year is better to do a nasty torture porn than halloween so now is the time now's the time um and no voices in this one so i've there was a voice in the trailer wasn't there or was that just like for effect there's like demon growls that are like but so i guess we can do we could just say goodbye normal okay let's do that works for me from all of us here too Too Scary Didn't Watch, goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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