Too Scary; Didn't Watch - PARANORMAL ACTIVITY: NEXT OF KIN with Dan Lippert

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

A documentary crew, an Amish town, and the dangers of 23andMe - we're recapping Paranormal Activity: Next of Kin! We are blessed to be joined by famous movie star Dan Lippert (Big Grande, Man Dog Pod) to discuss his new movie and get all sorts of fun behind the scenes info. Listen to find out which scene he powered through while having horrible diarrhea!Paranormal Activity: Next of Kin is streaming on Paramount Plus.00:00 - Intro03:28 - Episode starts12:35 - Trivia30:55 - Recap Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And also we've got another thing for you to hear and that's the, and it's coming up right now. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies, so I watch them so that you don't have to. But I'm a little confused because lately Emily's been so brave.

Wait, what the heck? What the heck is going on? I'm a little confused. What is my role? Do we need to change the intro? Do we need to just make it a little more honest? I think we're, yeah, I've kind of become a liar. Yikes, that's the scariest thing of all um today's halloween and i've learned that i'm a freaking liar scary day we're recording this on halloween happy halloween guys happy halloween to you guys

on this zoom but not to our listeners because it's not halloween it's not halloween anymore so fucking forget about it oh but um i would just like to say we did this last year. If you guys want to DM us the costumes you wore, I mean, I always love to see the costumes people are doing. Emily just reminded me of a small child who dressed up like string cheese.

I mean, hell yeah. It's those kinds of innovative choices I'm looking for. I personally didn't dress up this year. Once again, if anybody dressed up as us, I would really love to see it. I want to know your interpretation

of us. Once again, please share. It would just be a blonde wig and headphones. Just regular clothes and it's pretty easy. And very recognizable. Everyone will know. Everyone will know.

I guess, yeah, no, I'm kind of brave now, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. You'll hear. Sure, but last week, in my absence, you did Hell House LLC, which is one that I'm pretty scared to watch. I haven't seen it.

It's scary. And it's like jump scary, Sammy, which is your least favorite. I know it's my least favorite. It scares me good. Hell House LLC was scarier than I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be more of a joke than it ended up being. It was scary for real. Just the name Hell House LLC made

me laugh. But what is up with us on this spookiest day of the year? Well, you know, I'll just hop in here with my usual mom anecdotes, which is not even this isn't even an anecdote. This is just a complaint, which is that Silas is currently going through something called the four month sleep regression. Oh, I've heard of this. Sounds bad. It's bad. It's bad, you of this. Sounds bad. It's bad. It's bad, you guys. It's bad. It's really bad. So it's been getting progressively worse for the

past like two weeks. Also, he's not even four months yet. So I hope it doesn't I hope it gets better soon. I don't know. But basically, at this age, a little overachiever. I know he's really ahead of the curve. At this age, they develop like more natural adult sleep cycles. So you know how when we have when we sleep, we cycle through stages of light sleep and deep sleep, etc. And so babies at this age kind of develop and mature into that. And so that means that throughout the night, he's kind of like, waking up like how we do um but we like naturally put ourselves back to bed and babies like haven't learned how to do that yet and so he wakes up like every 40 minutes and it's so painful last night i think i got like two hours of sleep like

i'm so freaking tired and the thing that's crazy is it's like i guess this is just like what parents do forever like when am i ever gonna sleep again like you were already tired so now you're more tired i'm so like last night tim and i were just like what are we doing like i'm so tired um and people do this all the time. People do this with multiple children. It's very normal. But God, I am so tired. Anyway, so that's just my I'm just I'm just struggling out here.

You guys, I really want a full night's sleep so badly, so badly's really sad that's really sad i'm so sorry for you i know i know well you know what it's okay because salas is really fucking cute and i love him so goddamn much and even when he like squawks and i look over and his eyes are wide open and it's 1 a.m and he's already woken up like five times i still love him so much it's okay that's good that's really good that's a good good time thank fucking god well i had a very um relaxing day yesterday and i just me you're lying no i did i was oh i mean i know you did i was pretty hung over and so i went to the movies all day long and i saw three or two three hour movies back to back i saw no time to die and then the last duel which is a very long double feature it's a crazy fucking

loved it it was so great it was the perfect thing to do a little hungover. I mean, just sit still and have movies wash over you all day long was really great. Oh, that sounds really nice. And I just, again, the AMCA list is, I just can't believe it. Oh, it's worth it. What a deal. Three movies a week. It's a huge deal. For $24 a month.

Like, that's crazy six six hours too so like you you went in did you go into the movie theater when it was like bright outside and you came out when it was dark like i always like it when that happens i was there for me at like basically 11 to 6 p.m there was like some time between so i think i was there for seven hours and i also feel like it's important to know that you didn't eat i did not eat that's true i mean i was a little i hung over and so it felt like it could be a crazy decision to eat i ate before and then after you ate during the day but you didn't want just like concession concession nachos there was a moment during james bond where i thought i might throw up and i made a emergency plan to throw up into my soda cup if it came to

it because there were people else on both sides of me and i was like they never would have known would have known can you imagine can you imagine trying to watch James Bond and your person stranger sitting alone next to you just throws up into the soda cup and keeps watching? I think I could have done it still, Polly. You probably could have done it in the right moment. If they were paying attention, maybe something loud happens. You wait for like a car crash and you just puke into your cup. No. I was more nervous that it would get to that like emergency point.

And if I like got up to run that I would throw up on them as I passed over them. That was what I was trying to prevent from happening. That's it for me. That's it for you. I went to kind of a haunted house this week. Oh yeah. But it's hard to say. I don't think it was scary. I don't think it was scary.

I don't think it's just that I'm better at this now. I just don't think it was that scary but it was fun. It was like spooky spooky house. You went through and you're like – it's interesting because I think that – it's called House of Spirits. People dressed up, which was really fun. Like everyone dressed up like in – some people wore costumes, but most people wore like gowns and like freaky makeup and like very spooky theme. But the idea I think was that it was an asylum. This house was an asylum and there were like ghosts there.

Some of them were Russian. There was also a witch. There were a lot of like creatures that looked like they were from like Guillermo del Toro meets Star Wars. And so I don't understand how they fit into the asylum narrative. But it does. Yeah, sounds a little all over the place. It sounds a little.

It was a little loose. It was a little loose. But I really, I mean, I freaking did Halloween this year for real. Aside from doing anything today on actual Halloween. But. Sure. It's Sunday. It's Sunday.

It's Sunday. But I'm really enjoying I've been really enjoying watching scarier movies and partaking in the revelry. And with that in mind, I did technically watch this week's movie. technically watch this week's movie. Let me tell you a little bit about it and then we'll tell you a little bit more about it. I don't know where I was going with that sentence. Let me just start by saying, this week's movie

is Paranormal Activity Next of Kin. It just came out this last Friday, October 29th, a new release. It is streaming on Paramount Plus, which you can also view

on Amazon Prime with the Paramount Plus add-on. Free trial for a week, so go watch this movie. It is directed by William Eubank, written by Christopher Landon, based on Oren Peli's Paranormal Activity franchise series, starring Emily Bader,

Roland Buck III, Dan Lippert, and Henry Ayers Brown. If you just heard me list those names and you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, I know one of those names. I know it well.

You would be correct because that person that I named is he's been a guest. He's a friend. And now he's a freaking movie star in paranormal activity. We got him here. It's Dan Lippert. Woo! Hello! Woo! Oh my god. Oh, he's a ghost! I'm sorry. I know it's not Halloween for people listening now, but I have to come on here and be spooky at the very beginning. It's a spooky podcast. It's a spooky podcast. Sorry for everyone who was prepared to

not be scared again for yeah if you thought it was november and you were safe you came to the wrong place you shouldn't have been listening to a podcast i don't know what to tell you yeah um hey dan thanks for having me good to see y'all again welcome back we are so freaking excited that you are here. I'm excited to be here. I can't believe you're in this movie. Well, you know, one of my first thoughts when I got cast in this was I want to go on this podcast and talk about it.

Oh, that's such an honor. So I was so happy you asked. Oh my gosh. Of course. Of course. I also, like, they had originally said this movie was going to come out next year and then they surprised us all. And it was Halloween 2021.

And I got so freaking excited because we've been saying since the day I heard this news. Oh, my God. We're going to have Dan on the podcast to talk about this movie that he is in. I mean, it's one of the it's like the biggest fucking horror franchise. And you're in it. You're in a horror movie. You're in a big big horror movie yeah it's crazy isn't it it's crazy oh my god it's really crazy it's so freaking cool okay so i will say i

did watch it um we did a dan did a little screening is very sweet got to watch it with some friends and i realized afterwards i watched it all i like hardly looked away i like really watched it but also it was in a room full of people who were just like every time dan came on screen which was a lot excuse me he's one of the stars uh we all were like dan like screaming and like screaming about random shit and like just like like it was like a party while dan was on screen and um i realized that i think i missed quite a lot so um dan's gonna kind of take the lead but i remember i remember most of the movie i think so yeah he i mean he he's in it and i will just say because dan i mean maybe he will say this and he should um

dan's fucking great in it he's so good in it i think he's the best part of the movie he's really fucking funny in it in case you didn't know dan's funny i'm really good in it i agree you are really good at it dan thank you it was really fun to watch with that group it was like i couldn't recommend more highly to have like a bunch of supportive people at a thing that's all about you. And everybody made me feel so good. It was very overwhelming. It was also a really fun way to watch a horror movie.

Because the night before, they had done a tastemaker screening that Paramount Plus put on. And it's all strangers in a room watching it together. And during the scary parts, it's quiet. And during the funny parts, there's like laughs and chuckles. But this was like during the scary parts, people were like screaming. And it was really letting loose. Yeah. I will say it was probably terrible for anybody who was hoping to like really watch the movie because we talked the whole time.

But it was so fun yes the 15 people who just bought tickets and came to hang out were really annoyed ah oh boy well let's just let's just say first Dan tell us about I mean we've had you before so we know we know

how you feel about scary movies we know we know your deal and if hey listeners if you don't know go back and listen to 28 days late right later that's what that was called that we did with dan a fucking great episode and um you should listen to it because we're not going to talk about that right now what we're going to talk about is i do have an addendum to that episode though well not necessarily an addendum but um we we've created kind of like a killian murphy fan club that day yes we did that's true um what we shot paranormal activity in buffalo which is also where they they've been shooting a lot of stuff there

now including a quiet place too oh yeah he is in yeah and so uh through like you know the transportation drivers with had like driven them around and they're like ever like people had worked other crew members had worked with them and were like really effusive about how cool he is and then what the transport guy was like a friend of mine ran into him on the streets of Buffalo and was like oh my god I'm such a big fan can I

take your picture and he was like well how about instead of a photograph we just have a conversation would that be more memorable and he just like talked to her for like five minutes killian murphy above and beyond do you think he would join our fan club the fan club of himself yeah i like me too i like me too yeah i like me, too. I like me. I like me. I'm in.

That's fucking cool, man. God, that's cool. Yeah, Dan, tell us about I want to hear about the filming of this movie. I mean, it was weirdly like immediately pre-vaccines. Yeah. So I remember you all of a sudden you've been like very limited in your activities due to COVID. And then we're like, and anyway, now I'm going to fly to Buffalo and shoot a movie. Yeah, it was really crazy it was you know going on a plane the first time and all of that because it was right when everyone in LA was like trying to figure out if that it was okay to get

vaccinated as far as like ethically and people were like kind of getting vaccinated and then everybody was by like the end of March I feel like right or like into april and i was in this new state and i didn't know what to do and you're just like inherently closer to everybody like physically i hadn't been out of my house for a year other than like patio hangs and whatever um and so yeah it made me incredibly anxious, I guess. Like, I had to go to Legacy Effects to do some, like, effects work on me. And that place is so cool. Like, they did, like, the Baby Yoda. You know, they do everything. Oh, cool.

That's amazing. And all of a sudden, I have, like, three people in my face putting, like, a thing on me. And, like, it's close like inches away and right it was so crazy to just you i mean i'm sure we've all had experiences like this where it's like after a few minutes you're just like oh i guess this i'm just here now uh i have to like accept that this is the reality and i'm just used to it it's happening yeah this is i'm doing it it's happening i'm doing it um but yeah it was it was really it's not what i think the pro the thing for everybody in every way right now is like every if you start achieving things that you had dreamed of or wanted it doesn't look like what you

had dreamed it was going to look like anymore like my first thing being flown out somewhere and being in a new city and whatever it's like i couldn't go to all the restaurants i couldn't just walk around and walk into stores and all that stuff that would have been really fun um so it's it's i got really used to the hotel and we stayed at the campus of like this school called alfred uh university in this little town called alfred which is like near an amish town and so i was just on a college campus for like a month was it scary but like was there any moments during the filming that were you were actually scared my first night i think it was mostly because i was anxious but i was in my hotel room this was still in buffalo and i had

my first ever um like what's it called when your eyes open but you're still asleep oh sleep paralysis coming up more and more recently i i mean either the the the demons uh that we've not seen are becoming seen or we're just more anxious altogether but i my eyes opened and i i i remember having the thought process because i couldn't turn around i was on my stomach and i was like you sleep on your stomach uh yeah i don't want to i sit on my stomach i do too you don't want to it's bad for you it's like the worst way to sleep it's not a choice but it's the only way i can because your your neck has to be like your spine is like twisted oh yeah that's true but but it's like the worst way to sleep it's not a choice but it's the only way i can because your your neck has to be like your spine is like twisted oh yeah that's true but but it's like it's like comforting to have that like pressure on your chest though you know it is nice yeah

i just can't unless yeah uh because i i think i probably have like mild apnea or something like that i'll like snore myself awake if i lay on my back oh yeah yeah um okay sorry so sorry emily i do sleep on my temi but i remember being like okay i'm like pretty sure there's not a demon on my back but i can't i can't turn around to make sure that that is the truth and it was really freaky um but the really freaky part is like two weeks later in the same hotel in the lobby i heard someone else i overheard someone telling her friend that she had had sleep paralysis the night before and she was like describing basically what i had also experienced no i don't don't like that. Yeah. That's icky. Yeah.

That's icky. It's icky. But I wish it had been like an old hotel. It was like a new Hilton, you know what I mean? Sure, sure, sure. Or whatever, like a Best Western, so there wasn't like a feeling of haunting there. Yeah. Ooh. Ooh.

Also, I guess this is Buffalo, and it was like, yeah, March, April. I was shocked when I watched the movie how freaking cold it was there. It was like full-blown winter. Well. Did you fake it? Movie magic? Some of it was movie magic, but the secret or whatever title, code name was Black Snow. And so there was this feeling that it was going to be super snowy.

And then it was really, it stopped snowing early because climate change. You just don't know what the weather is going to be like anymore. Sure. And it was really like rainy and muddy and kind of like gross. And so they were like, maybe it just won't be a snowy movie. And then the first day of shooting, it snowed like crazy. So they rearranged the schedule to get a bunch of like third act shots where it's supposed to be really snowy. And like picked up a bunch of like third act shots where it's supposed to be really snowy and like picked up a bunch of that but a lot of it is like they they covered it well they use a lot of just like white foam on the ground that looks like snow yeah there's just like vfx guys

walking around and spraying the ground and put that stuff down but it would we have some pretty snowy days and it was it was like 40 minute drives to set in pitch black like middle of nowhere just like 5 a.m driving home after a long shoot in crazy snow it was very scary that's yeah i mean this is why we got to make sure crew members get good schedules because like that's some scary shit to drive late at night after not sleeping in the snow. It was and there were like you know there was one of our like COVID compliance people got into an accident.

One of our sound women got into an accident and it truly was like sorry to blow up Paramount but like incredibly unfair that people had to do that. Yeah. After working insane hours they had to drive like an hour or more to get

Oh, that's not good. Yeah, it's fucked up. Adding them to our list, Paramount. Well, I guess we should just talk about this movie because there's going to be things I'm going to want to talk about with you after everybody knows the plot of the movie. I know. Because we can't spoil-y. That's what's

hard about this early process is i feel like i have a lot of questions i want to ask you but i don't want we can't give anything baby let's get into it um well first let's watch this freaking trailer i think yeah let's watch the trailer we are shooting a documentary because i am about to meet my first biological relative. She's Amish. I'm not. I am not Amish. What? We are humbled and grateful to have our sister Margo return to us.

I've always hoped that I could meet you all, so this is a really special moment for me. Hey, mind if I fill me for a moment I like your doll what's her name yeah you know that was my mom's name she used to live here a long time ago. She's still here. What did you say? Whoa. Why would they build a church all the way back here? What is that?

The demon Asmodeus was trapped inside a chosen woman of God. This has happened before. What the hell? Are these from my mom? You can't have me and my baby. I know every farmer's family within a 50 mile area. That ain't Amish. Ah! Ah!

Jesus, welcome. Jesus, welcome. Christ has come to earth. Jesus, welcome. come to earth. Jesus will come, Jesus will come, Christ will come to earth. RUN! Oh my god. Are you sure about this?

I have to know oh my god scary blown away i was not expecting that i have not seen this trailer that looked fucking terrifying a but then also like wow what it looks very beautifully shot i mean just i wasn't expecting like that level of filmmaking for paranormal activity i guess i haven't seen i don't know what the other ones are like but um um holy shit it kind of reminded me of like it was giving me like witch vibes almost yeah yeah uh-huh yeah it's got which it's definitely got witch vibes um and let's see they they wanted it to be like a a reset a little bit of the franchise. And they kind of justify it away by like, she's making a documentary.

And so they have all this equipment and whatever. Yeah. Which I think some purists were like, no. Like, there's a couple omniscient shots also in it that they were nervous about when they were making it, I think. And were ultimately like, it works for the storytelling. It's a couple omniscient shots also in it that they were like nervous about when they were making it, I think. And we're ultimately like it works for the storytelling. It's a movie. Yeah, I would say it's like a blend. I mean, again, I literally have not seen another paranormal and I won't.

It was a blend of found footage and also like a movie is what I felt like watching it. It is really beautiful. And it's like you want to get those big, beautiful shots. I don't know. But I'm not I'm not a paranormal purist. Didn't bother me. Sure. Wow.

And the fact that it incorporates something that looks a little bit too much like splunking to me. There's some elements. No, thank you. Hard pass. Absolutely not. So you're not a descent fan. I mean, i did watch the descent um but i watched it with i can't fucking believe that but i watched it with number one fans super fans uh sammy and jenna who have seen it a thousand times and honestly it made it so much

less scary to watch it with two people who have seen it a million times and like know exactly what's going to happen and we were just like eating donuts and I like wasn't too scared but no no spunky no yeah like rappelling down into a dark hole is something I will never do

ever yeah I can agree with that I don't think I'll be doing that anytime there's a lot of this that you wouldn't't think I'll be doing that anytime. No. There's a lot of this that you wouldn't, that's gonna happen here that you wouldn't do or want to do. I believe it. That being said, I'm gonna definitely, definitely

make Dan take the lead because I this morning I texted him, I was like you know what happened in this movie, right? You were in it. You know what happened. I'll just sort of pop in with things that maybe I remember and also some You know what happened in this movie, right? You were in it. You know what happened. I do. I'll just sort of pop in with things that maybe I remember and also some really funny things that Dan does and says.

Because I remember that. Great. Well, first I want to ask, how much do the first six movies matter? Good question. Because we've covered one through three, but not four through six. So it is not that I am really aware of, like related to that story. Okay. Great.

Is it like Harold or something? What's the demon's name? Or the ghost or whatever. The same family for multiple years. Yeah. I think there might be some theories out there that like this this is kind of like easter eggy connected but as far as like actually the experience of watching it there's no feeling like you have to see the other ones this could have been the first movie in like its own thing to me okay great in the past few years i have hit a point where i only want to

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Margo uh is there with Chris um who I realize it's halfway through shooting the Chrisris landon is the guy that wrote this movie and he wrote like uh the death day movies and uh oh shit yeah um and uh a couple of the paranormals but i was i realized halfway through i'm like you just named the main character your name what's your name what's a guy's name uh that is also your character's name is dale and it took me so long to realize they weren't calling you dan like i was like oh they just named his character

dan and then at one point i heard the l and was like oh dale dale and it was just yeah i was named dale which i don't know i i that's close to my vibe i think so you could be a dale um so yeah that you find there are denny's and you find out essentially that they're meeting um someone who found her um uh margo on 23 and me who is related to her she is adopted and doesn't know her birth family and this person that's related to her is on his rumspringa um and that is uh samuel and so he shows up at the denny's and they kind of start talking and find out a little bit of the backstory and basically like that she's a college student uh her and chris and they're making this documentary trying to like find out more about her origin story um and they're gonna go to the farm and meet the the baylor family which is uh her family and then we cut to a shot

uh security cam shot of a woman dropping a baby off in a hospital uh and we see margo looking at that on her phone and showing her friends as they're like hanging out and drinking and smoking. And she's like, I've seen this a hundred times. And you find out it's her mom dropping her off and she looks kind of like scared in it. And you don't really know what the story is with it. Wow.

I wonder how she got that footage. That's a good question. It's a good question. I don't know. I'm sure she knows the hospital she was born in because it's on your birth certificate and so she's like hey show me all this footage from it

all the time well no yeah I guess because she wouldn't have been born in a hospital maybe or not anyway whatever I don't know they might explain it I'm not going to ask questions I'm not asking questions you can ask questions no don't ask any questions.

I feel like if you don't ask questions, it will just be me talking for 30 minutes. So please ask questions. I love that, though. A little fun fact. In the original script, the movie opened with the footage of the baby being dropped off and then cut to the Denny's. I don't know. Anyway, then they're at the airport and a fun little thing that was cut out

that I wish they had kept for comedy is Samuel, they're all wearing masks, it's COVID times, and Samuel has a mask that's like a pink mask with little studs on it and he's like this Amish guy and whatever. And you find out he was running late and couldn't find a mask and so got one at a gas station.

Oh, that's great. That's a cute little joke that wasn't in there. And then they leave the airport and their sound guy, Dale pulls up in his van. Who's that? Who's that guy? Screamed in the theater.

And that was my first day of shooting and i remember coming in so hot and the will the director had to be like hey you're being like really big right because i was just like so jacked and bring it in a little bit okay let me just take over real quick right here okay dan is very funny here dan's like the comic relief in this movie. Yes. And that's Dale's case. Like kind of like a little weirdo sound guy. They like met him and hired him just for this doc. And so he shows up and picks him up in his van. And he forgets to put his mask on.

So he's got to run in the car, grab his mask. And then he's like, oh, it's cool. I've had COVID like five times. And then they're like, you had COVID five times? And he says, well, I only once, I only got tested once, but I think I just kept getting it. Dan, did you improvise that?

Yes, I did. It's so funny. I did. God, it's funny. Thank you. Oh my god, they let you improvise things. I feel like that's not normal, right? Do they usually let you do that? I think this series is generally relatively heavily improvised. Oh, I'd forgotten about that. Okay.

They want it for the realism. So I got to improvise like a good amount. My first audition was like a fake dummy script that they said you could improvise around. My second audition was fully improvised. They just gave me a scenario and I improvised it. And then the third audition was like the actual script um cool but uh it because the movie was like incredibly technical and they were trying to capture everything in one shot you know because generally they didn't use the omniscient shots and it has to be one camera so a lot of it was like one take shots that the

it was harder to want to improvise because you didn't want to like improvise something and fuck up the one take that the everything else worked on yeah it's a lot at stake yeah so i think for the other actors there was like maybe a little less freedom to improvise than some of the other movies but i just i fucking just went for it oh that's great that's so cool to know i love knowing that oh this is why it's so fun to have people who are actually in the movie. We never I mean, this like so rarely happens. Yeah. It's weird to talk about. It's like, I don't know what's interesting. So I'm just telling the story. I mean, so interesting. It's so interesting. I stopped the whole goddamn podcast to talk about that COVID joke because it really made me laugh.

I just thought it was really interesting that like they put COVID into the movie. And then after this moment, it's sort of like then we don't worry about it. We go like you know, to the Amish movie, nobody wears masks anymore. But it was like a very interesting thing to be like, oh yeah, we're like, that will be in the context of movies moving forward as like a way.

It just was wild. Yeah. I don't know any that I've seen until I think this one has such a quick turnaround it's probably like one of the first movies where the characters like are it just because it tells you the dates you know you're like the first seems like march 6 2021 and then whatever you're going through and so it's like right kind of actually funny now that i think about it because they would i think stuff happens on like march 12th like i guess it doesn't exactly track like some of the stuff is happening as the world is closing down and no one mentions it well no they is it 2020 or 2021 uh 2020 yeah but that's like

when everything shut down yeah oh that's interesting how could you know maybe it is 2021 okay so it doesn't matter yeah so how could you have had covid five times by march 2020 so that's what it is. All right. So we've solved it. We've solved it. Okay. Yeah.

So Dale picks him up and he's funny as hell. Dale shows up. He's funny. Everybody is enamored. Everyone leans forward in their seats with little heart emoji eyes. Everything everywhere. People go, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. Everywhere people go, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan.

They get to the farm and Samuel leaves to talk to, it's nighttime and the farm's all creepy. And a character who we'll later find out is, oh my gosh, what's his name? The actor is Tom. Jacob walks out and he's like the father figure of the family. And you don't hear anything, but you see Jacob and Samuel get into a little argument. And you see like a creepy kid on the porch and kind of like an old lady in the window. And it's snowing all crazy and we don't know what's going on. Samuel gets back in the car and he's like, we have a problem. And what's kind of implied is like they didn't want them

to bring cameras and be filming because it's an amish family and farm and whatever right and so then we cut to a hotel and the crew dale um margo chris and samuel are in the hotel room setting up uh and like looking at the equipment and kind of just, it's just setting up some of the plot here. Side story that didn't really make it into it, but Dale is watching an infomercial about, like, a balding cure on the TV that one of the director's friends, like, made. And it's, like, a funny little two-minute infomercial. It's actually our friend Hector's cousin. But anyway, they hear a noise in the bathroom. The first kind of scare moment.

They look behind the curtains. Nothing's there. Everything's all clear. And then a kid's head shows up in the window of the bathroom. And I spilled a full cup of champagne onto Joel. I screamed and spilled a whole cup of champagne onto Joel. I screamed and spilled a whole cup of champagne on him. And from a

bottle that was relatively limited. Yeah. Yeah. I took too much and then I spilled it all. And so what's the kid? I keep getting the actors samuel no there's the kid has a name that i i won't remember in this moment he's a freaky little kid he's got like a straight

across bang haircut it looks like there's kind of a lot of freaky little kids in this there's a few freaky kids um oh eli is his name colin was the actor and this kid was like he was like the prototypical like child actor he was so precocious so funny um and uh we talked a lot about fortnight uh but he was a real sweetheart and he was very food motivated so his mom like he had a lot of like snickers and stuff i know now he's a human boy this one's food motivated right you just give him a treat and uh so that like i i can't remember plot wise how if they explain how eli got there but essentially now they have to go back to the farm eli like snuck into the van with them or or followed them and now they have to go back to the farm. Eli snuck into the van with them or followed them. And now they have to go back to the farm to return Eli.

And it's late at night. And so Jacob's like, fine, you can stay here. Since you brought us our little child back, we'll let you film here. Whatever, whatever. Shows them to their creepy room. Margo walks in and a dog barks at her immediately. Never a good sign. Never a good sign.

Yeah. A dog that they just we had a lot of trouble with the animals on set and uh because i think because it was in buffalo it's just like not like you're in la where there's super trained hollywood animals yeah uh and so it was like yeah this dog probably is it can act and then it like wouldn't really bark when it was supposed to which is probably normally a good thing for a dog right but they played it not it looked good actually i was wondering if they would just fully cut that scene because we never got like a good take of the dog barking yeah um but we all come in the dog actors there are not like the dog actors not like the quality is so different you need need Union Dog actors. Absolutely. That's why we should keep filming in California. But let's see.

They go there. They're in the house. We get a little backstory. Dale doesn't fit on his bed. We find out his mom lives with him. I love that. His mom lives with him. He doesn't live with his mom.

His mom lives with him. And you share a full-size bed? Yeah, I think that's what it was there were a few wild you guys yeah that's a whole lot there's one thing to like live with your mom another thing to share a full-size bed also she lives with him she's a very funny detail i think that what you asked if there was any scary stuff that so that scene we like pretty fully improvised and they started they pounded on the walls once when we were improvising it and that did scare the shit out of me because i wasn't expecting it um which i'm sad they didn't use that in the actual

movie but that was one uh but yeah so we set up to there're there. They are more excited than the audience, I think. The audience is like, okay, this looks fucking creepy. But the characters are like, this is so cool. It's so different. Whatever. What happens? They're glad to be let in. Yes.

The next morning, they're eating breakfast and wondering. Dale's surprised that they have Froot Loops here, like Amish people do, and Chris makes fun of him for that. And then it's basically like, what are you doing today? We see Lavinia, the older woman from earlier, yell at the kid for being too chatty. They talk about TikTok. her being like too chatty they talk about tiktok um and uh side note the jill the woman that played levina is like a she's like 82 and she grew up she likes was in the 50s she was in like uh you know like soho or whatever like in manhattan like doing theater her parents were like in um the big uh the big movie about the sled at the end about uh yellow journalism guy um citizen kane yeah her parents like in citizen kane

wait we got us there we got it she like was ron perlman's friend like in the 50s like coming and she just had like a great little story that's cool um and she was in the like original broadway production of children of a lesser god oh my shit wow but anyway we find out that they're like just gonna check out the farm that day and they're hanging out uh up the world a little more. I forget what the next scene is. Emily, do you remember? Yeah, no. When do you get a haircut?

That's about 10 pages away probably. Okay, then I got nothing. Am I going scene by scene or just the big plot points? I think you can take us to the next big plot point. I think like scene by scene is going to take too long. I think you can take us to the next, yeah, next big plot point. Like we're just, I think that basically,

yeah, like what I picked up is it feels creepy, but they're not, they have no reason to be like creeped out. They're just thinking we're going to learn about this family, their life. Is this when she talks to the girls

at the laundry line? Yeah, so she goes to the laundry line and she talks to some girls uh some like of the amish girls there and finds out that her mom got pregnant with an englishman which is like someone from outside of the community and got shunned for it uh and then you find out from the energy of these teenage girls that like this should not be discussed and they leave kind of quickly um another thing that got cut from the movie is in the like the everything's moving in in the wind the clothes on the hangers and like the demon's

outline shows up in one of the sheets but whatever the thing is yeah something bad and they cut that which made me sad i wonder if they just yeah i wonder if it was like conj it was like Conjuring was like, hey man, we've done that. You can't do that. Yeah, I did just watch the Conjuring for the first time and saw that and was like, oh. So that, and then Chris is playing with his drone and he sees a church like kind of far away, like further than makes makes sense kind of in the middle of nowhere and so he's like a little confused about that and they want to figure that out um and so they go to the church and jacob angrily finds them and stops them it's locked right they

try to get in yeah i might have jumped too far forward That's okay But anyway yeah They do see the church and they go try And it's locked and Jacob It gets mad and is like hey we're eating Let's all go eat And Dale is hungry and is excited about that That's kind of that

So he's also food motivated He's also food motivated But so the That night at while they're eating, oh, Jacob introduces Margo and is like, we're blessed to have her here. And he says something essentially about duty and doing what you're supposed to do

and how important that is to the family. He's like, we have a saying or whatever. And then everybody's kind of chatting, and then he claps twice, and some kids start singing in German, and they sing this song, and then everybody's pounding on the tables, and it's this weirdly upsetting scene

where they're excited about the song. Yeah, it feels very like, I'm never comfortable hearing like german sung in unison uh by like young white kids um yeah yeah um and so it's this moment and like margo's like this is kind of sweet and um i like how they don't use their phones or whatever that night everybody goes to sleep another thing that was cut from the movie is Dale is snoring really loud and you know those tiny microphones

that people kind of use with their dogs when they're snoring like that they kind of like on TikTok you like put a little tiny microphone they like lower one in on Dale snoring I don't know why they cut that that scene was really funny.

And I spent like probably for continuity, like 24 hours just having to lay in a bed, not consecutively, just because a lot of scenes happen while I'm sleeping. And it was like, instead of just putting my foot in some lumpy pillows in the bed, they're like, you got to be there. Yeah. So I spent a lot of time just laying in a tiny bed. It's very funny. Well, poor Emily just had to get yanked around crying and screaming a bunch. Not me.

Not you, Emily. Emily Bader is the actress. I don't know if you did that as well. That would have been crazy. That would have been crazy if you had been in this movie too, Emily. Emily Bader is the actress. I don't know if you did that as well. That would have been crazy. That would have been crazy if you had been in this movie too, Emily. You would have been great in that role, Emily. Thank you so much, Dan. I believe that to be true.

And so that night she hears a noise. She follows it. A door that I forgot to mention earlier. She sees a padlock on. Now the lock is off, and it leads up to the attic. Yeah, it's the middle of the night. Nobody else gets up. She gets up alone.

And it's because she hears noises from above her. Yeah. In that room. And she was like, that was a locked room. And this is, she's got her own, this is like very found footage. This is our night vision. First really paranormal activity scene. Yep.

And she hears some noises. She opens some drawers and finds a box with a letter in it. We saw this in the trailer. The letter is like her mom wrote it and it's like, you'll never get me or my baby again. Whatever. It calls them a cult. She finds like a secret kind of back room and then she hears something, uh, and hides under the bed and Jacob walks in, sees that the door has been opened and he goes like,

oh no. I think he says, oh, Jesus. Um, and so I know about Jacob, that actor, Tom, he lives in Florida and, uh, all he and his girlfriend own a, um, a business that does hydrotherapy for dogs. So it's like a pool where you can bring your dogs and they can like swim to like if they have arthritis

or injuries or whatever. He's like the sweetest man on earth. Oh my god, what a fun business to own. Oh my god. Bring him over to swim. I had no idea what you were were gonna say and you did not disappoint with hydrotherapy for dogs shocked you it was did not expect that to come out of your mouth i never even knew it existed and then he said it and i was like oh that should exist everywhere that's such a fun idea of course even if it's actually just like a nice name for dog swimming but it's still

but if you watch the movie and you get scared of his character just imagine him talking very lovingly about his old dog um uh so he leaves the room and then she's under the bed here's a noise again and this is also in the trailer the the bed lowers down as if something is sitting on it yes and he's out of the room now he has left the room yeah you've seen those footsteps walk out that door so in this wait so in this room there's just some letters from her mom yeah they're like she looks through a couple drawers and finds them under some clothes in a tin can and opens a tin can well but there's also a bed up there

so it's like it's like a bedroom that nobody uses and I believe earlier Samuel tells her like conversationally that her mom stayed upstairs or something like that so maybe it was her bedroom that they, for some reason just have left as is locked the door.

Yeah. There's a little Amish doll just sitting on the bed. Yeah. Probably don't worry about it. You know, probably don't worry about the creepy doll. I'm fine. Totally fine.

I'm still stuck on hydrotherapy for dogs yeah if you live in i forget where in florida he is orlando i think but anyway so um then she goes she comes out from under the bed and there's nothing on top of it and then the door somehow is shut and locked in a way that she can't open it uh so she tries to open the window. It's stuck. Like there's a kind of a booming noise. It's getting louder and louder.

The camera looks at the window and in the reflection, we see a face. Oh, shizzer. Big scream moment. She turns around. Huge jumpscare. Nothing there. She finally gets the window open. She says, well, this is going to be tough or something like that.

Cut to the next day. And she's showing this footage to chris and dale uh and dale is like okay fuck this let's go this is creepy good dale has the right idea dale knows chris is like uh uh a little dubious and is like so what we're making're making a Ghost Hunters movie now? I thought we were making a documentary about your life. It's like, Chris, this is what happens. This is what's happening. Yes. And Margo's being a little bit gaslit. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Never heard of it? Also, just going back for the creepy vibe it doesn't really matter but their first night there she looks out the window and she just sees like six people holding red lights and doesn't know what's going on i don't like that distance um and that she asked sam the next day and he's

like they're hunting bears there's bears a bear something killed a cow that's all which there's bears here so don't go in the woods at night. And also, just don't worry about it. So then they are like, okay, well, we do have to get to the bottom of this. Let's figure out how to get to that church. Everyone has left the farm. Oh, go ahead, Emily. Did you get your hair cut yet?

Because I feel like you already did. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I did. This is the biggest part of the movie in my mind in a what's it called the fun and games part of the movie yes which we i want to just flag that we reference the fun and games portion now often and it originated from your episode dan when you, when you talk about it on 28 Days Later, that was the first time we had talked about it on the podcast, and now it's just a recurring... Because so many horror movies, man, there's a fun and games portion.

There's got to be. You need the fun and games portion. It's tough to beat that one to that song in 28 Days Later. Mm-hmm. It's a great one. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But yeah, this is when they're settling into the amish they're like just being like okay let's get to know amish way of life and like these people and this family and dale's really getting

into it and so they they come around the corner and there's all these kids gathered around dale and he's got his hair up and they're like giving him some sort of makeover. And so then the next scene, they're all like pounding and like, there's a big reveal coming. Dale pops out and he's been given a bowl cut, like an Amish bowl cut in a full Amish outfit. It's so funny. We are going to need to post a photo of that.

It is so fucking funny. I screamed. And then he just has that hair for the rest of the movie and we never draw attention to it. Dan just, it's like a scary movie and Dan just has this that hair for the rest of the movie and we never draw attention to it dan just it's like a scary movie and dan just has this insane wig for the rest of the movie and it is so funny and bowl cuts have like followed me around for my whole life uh because i think people just think they're going to be funny on me this was already in the script but uh our friend drew tarver was always like get a bowl cut for six months you'll book every role in the world

look he's not wrong you know rebecca was sitting behind me we also had rebecca on the podcast good friend uh she said that you looked like the berries and cream guy from that skittles commercial and you really do it was such weird timing because i had forgotten about the commercial when they did the wig will the director was like you look like berries and cream and i was like what and he showed me the video i was like oh fuck that commercial which has now become really big on tiktok i don't know if you've seen it but yeah people do that character the berries and cream and it's been like remixed a ton yeah uh but yeah they had to it was very confusing and complicated because you would always forget which day like if we were shooting a scene before or after my hair was cut. But they had to bun up my hair and then put the wig on top of the bun that's like in the bowl cut cut.

Because the two options would be to give me a full bowl cut and then give me a wig on top of it for the pre-moments or keep my hair. Anyway, it was a lot of work for the whole movie to just have a book it's honestly worth it i was gonna say it sounds like in emily's opinion it was worth it oh my god it was so funny it was pretty funny i'll send you all we also had like a set dog tootsie that was this little dog that lived on a farm down the road and she would just run up to set and like hang around and she's in the movie she walks past in that scene where she's talking where they're hanging the clothes up and and uh mario goes like oh look at that dog that's just tootsie walking through the shot um but there

there's a video of her eating my wig at some point she just like got it out of the wig bag yeah i bet you have a good picture of you in that wig probably like on your phone so yeah we need to see behind the scenes pics perfect just couldn't let that go by was it was it really uncomfortable wearing the bowl cut wig i feel like wigs are uncomfortable it's usually it's not the wig it's like all the pins you have to put in your hair to hold it up for the wig to go on top of that's like the part that can be uh imprecise and like tight but also at the end of the day you get i really like having people rub their hands through my hair it's very relaxing for me very head motivate head scratch so you do get like that um so worth it yeah worth it so uh that that day yeah that day where we shot the that was like my

fate i was really excited for that bowl cut scene i'd like prepared a thing for it i was ready for that shoot and then the kids that were on set were fucking crazy and there were there were uh sorry to sell this little little girl out but she was like a big diva she kept saying joke lines like trying to like get on camera and like deliver probably like trained by her mom this like six-year-old to like say something that makes you pop you know and it was it was so crazy to feel competitive with a six-year-old to be like hey this is my moment like someone needs to tell her she can't talk i'm the one getting the ball is someone gonna deal with the kid excuse me someone gonna deal with the kid um and it was like just like kind of a low budget movie and

like there weren't really like kid wranglers i don't know if they normally are so i just there were like six kids and in between takes i had to be like all right like everybody remember what we're doing here and like you can if you were talking while i'm talking it doesn't work like you have to be quiet but like you don't want to be a dick but it's like this is how movies are oh man that's really funny well i'll say it is dale's moment i felt in the movie yes and it's got it's got some big references to to some things that i do in other podcasts so uh i was excited to throw it in there um so dale now has the haircut they have to find a way to get to the church so they did want to distract samuel so they're they have him show them his horse, and they put Dale on the horse and slap its

ass, and the horse runs off with Dale on it, and Samuel chases it as a distraction so that Chris and Margo can go to the church. And you, Dan Lippert, had to actually get on a horse, yes? I had to get on a horse. I am really, really, really scared of horses. Horses are scary. I agree. I am 6'7", like 270 pounds. They had to have a big horse. really really scared of horses horses are scary i agree it in order to i am six foot seven like

270 pounds they had to have a big horse um uh in the training uh the like you i drove to this woman's barn and they like got me on the horse and i you walk it around in circles and stuff and it's to get comfortable with it and then you get on it and i know this fact they're like if the horse knows you're anxious the horse is anxious and it's like whether or not you know that to be true it's hard to just not be anxious right if i already am and also there is this feeling like not to invoke of it like a bad an awful thing that happened with like with that movie rust where it's like yeah you can't trust that things are safe just because someone told you it was right yeah right uh and i had that feeling a lot in this movie was like everyone's like it's fine it's a horse it's fine and it's

like yeah it's fine i don't i'm not it's fine until i fall off and break my neck it's also like you don't fucking know it's a horse it's an animal it's a live animal people get very hurt riding horses like it's dangerous. They paralyze Superman. Especially if you don't know what you're doing. Yeah. So anyway. It's fine. It's a horse.

Dan, it's fine. It's a horse. It's a horse. Just a huge horse. They walked me around the barn and she was like, all right, I'm going to let go. And just you can have a little time with them. Right when she lets go, the horse like bolts. Oh my God.

And so everyone is doing that thing where they are trying to be helpful and trying to be calm. But you could hear in their voice, they're very scared. And they're like, just squeeze your legs. Heels down. Squeeze your legs. All right. Just tell him to stop. Tell him to stop.

Like that kind of thing. And so I was like, okay, I'd like to get off now forever. And so then we're shooting it that day. And it's similarly like I've been nervous the whole day. I've been anxious. And the woman who's the wrangler, I hear her talking to the director and the stunt coordinator. And she's like, hey, the horse is really anxious today. He's just really bossy.

Oh, my God. And you can tell she's really worried. And so I was like, hey, hey i'm never gonna be on the horse without someone holding it it's just not gonna work and they figured it out um and the my stunt guy was like in my full outfit and so they just did they do a thing where the camera like pans down and then back up and then it's him and they slap the horse's ass and it runs away yeah which is what should have been the plan the whole time that's not that hard hard to do. Yes. Put a trained horse person on the horse. Yeah.

And it's like, again, because it was in Buffalo. They're like, this horse has never been in a movie. And it's like, well, I want like the Clint Eastwood horse. Yeah. Man. But it's worth it for the laugh. They go to the church and we now see inside this church there is a bunch of iconography about osmodeus which is a demon demonic name and some like paintings on the ground of like some

horrifying images of like people killing each other and and then they they notice that there's a kind of a weird well that is covering, like, some hollow board. And so they knock on the board, and they're like, there's something under here. They move this, like, well facade, open the board, and there's, like, a 50-foot cavern. Margo drops a rock and hears it fall very far. They see a harness, and she's like, fuck it. I'm going to go down go down it's so crazy and now we're at henley's spelunking part yeah no thank you no thank you um and she goes down and hears some noises and sees bones down there and it stinks um and oh i'm so sorry uh we we missed a point uh a night earlier they heard

they heard some crazy ass noises they follow the noise to a barn and they see the the uh the family cutting open a goat and pulling out a two-headed baby goat and then they kill the baby and then they kill it they kill it big time pulling out a two-headed baby goat. Ooh, yeah. Got a little peek at that in the trailer. And then they kill it. They kill it big time. Huge. And Laveena leans over to Jacob and says, it's getting stronger.

Oh, boy. Oh, we should also point out that in the barn, this happened earlier when they were, like, exploring. That's right. There's, like, hay or something covering up a part of the... Margo's, like, walking and almost falls down this like huge hole on like the second level of the bar. And there's a fucking huge hole in the floor. Under the hole is a hay baler, which is like a thing that a metallic thing that like whatever.

Metal claws like scary, scary. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So it's like you want to make that very obvious. Like, don't fall here. Yeah. But it could fall there. to make that very obvious. Like, don't fall here. Yes. But it could fall there. But that's, yeah, anyway, that's there.

Don't worry about it. I was going to say that. Don't worry about it. You know, it sounds like it probably won't come back. It won't come back. I just had to mention it because it won't come back. So then they see them bringing the goat to this church the night before, the dead goat. And so now she's going down. It smells like shit.

And why are there bags of salt, Dan? There's bags of salt everywhere. They did explain this to us. There is some sort of reasoning that salt keeps the demon at bay. It's a witchcraft thing. Is it a witchcraft thing, Sammy? When you do a circle, I think even in the craft

they do, or no, isn't it in Hocus Pcus where you like in a circle yes and it's supposed to be protective we get we notice at one point there are bags of salt like all over the place and again i only really remember this because i remember screaming salt yes like and so everyone screamed salt at some point. So multiple points were salt is pointed out. Yeah. Yeah. And seen.

And so there's salt down here. She starts getting creeped out. She's like, all right, Chris, I'm ready. Pull me up. There's a long moment where he doesn't respond and she starts to freak out as the noise kind of gets louder. And then he pulls her up eventually and she makes it out big fuse cut to samuel angrily cutting logs and be and her being being like what's going on and him being like what is going on with you you said you were here to find out about your mom do that documentary

now you're sneaking out at night you're like following stuff sticking your nose where it doesn't belong i'm trying to help you i'm trying to protect you but you are freaking out uh henry is the actor that played samuel henry rules uh he's like a new york actor he's in this awesome short that i would really recommend with um rachel dratch where she's like rachel it's really good and she's like this kind of like closed off shy woman who hires uh a sub and he plays the sub and she like dominates him amazing uh i don't even know i i wish i'd add it to the post or whatever but he's like incredible in it um and so is she and it's a really great short and i really love love Henry, and I think he's going to be like, everybody in this movie is going to have tons of success. Including Dan Lippert.

What's that? Including Dan Lippert. But anyway, he was really great in this scene. Another fun fact, throw it on the IMDb, this scene was not planned to shoot that day. There was an issue with loading cows in for another scene. Like the cows weren't doing it or whatever these are not la cows they're not la cows i think maybe they didn't bring enough cows

or something like that and so they're like we're switching to this scene which was like kind of a big scene for henry uh and he hadn't prepared it at all and he still like kills it in this scene with like a half hour to prep. That's so cool. Yeah. That's awesome. But anyway. And he had to cut wood too during it. And he had to cut wood, which is not easy.

Not easy. It's not easy. Not easy. I don't know that I could have done it. I would have been very scared and I probably would have hit myself with the axe. They're freaked now. They're freaked. Yeah.

Are we like suspicious of Samuel at all? Like it seems like. We're getting a little suspicious. They're freaked. Yeah. Are we like suspicious of Samuel at all? Like it seems like we're getting a little suspicious because it seems like he's angry and like maybe lying for like not a good reason. It's like no shit. She's exploring this. This is fucking weird. No one's giving them any answer. Now they've had like enough weird experiences and seen enough weird things

and everyone's like, shut up. Don't worry about like yes like the girl with the doll we got which was in the trailer oh yes she meets a girl with a doll and the doll's name is sarah which is her mom's name and she asked about sarah and she's like you know she's that was my mom's name and she goes she's still here uh and then she goes she doesn't like you well that's rude yeah that's fucking mean as hell as fucking hell little fun set fact on that one that girl was terrified that day she like she was so scared she couldn't do it she like was so horrified and emily the actress that played

margot spent like an hour just like talking to her and making her comfortable and like uh i i did i like cried watching it because it was like so sweet uh and like eased her into the scene but literally just an hour where they were like don't set up any cameras nobody be on set and then they would like kind of like filter people on as she was just talking to the little girl and being like, so what do you like to do? Where are you from? I love your red hair. Like just whatever until the girl got comfortable enough. And then they would like slowly work their way into the scene.

And it was really sweet. She does a great job. She's great in it. Yeah. Oh, that's really sweet. She does a great job. She's great in it, yeah. Oh, that's really sweet. So we look at the, they look at the video of her in the cave. There is some sort of image in the video and the sound. Dale is drunk and ready to go because of the horse.

He's holding ice on his shoulders. Like, I just fell off a fucking horse. My favorite scene that got cut is after this at the dinner drunk dale confronts everybody and is like hey what was going on with that goat uh or like what was that noise like what are you storing a great question um and uh i don't know if maybe the acting in that scene was subpar i doubt it it. No way. I do remember that because I was supposed to be drunk. The director being like, I have some Scott. Like after a few takes, do you want to be drunk while you're doing it? I was like, am I being not good?

Do you want me to be drunk? Like I will if it's not working. So Dale wants to go. They're freaking out. the next day she finally interviews jacob for the documentary and he kind of tells her uh he she shows him the letter she found he's like you were that was you in the attic he's mad at her for going in there and he's like look your mom was selfish uh she got pregnant out of wedlock and what you're supposed to do in in our family is give your child up to a wedded couple she didn't want to do that and so margo's like well

isn't that kind of cruel that you shunned her for that and he's like isn't it more cruel that she just left a baby on the floor at a hospital and so it's this moment of like do you trust them do you believe them which version of the story would be worse uh is their belief system incorrect here uh and how much do we trust jacob but he gets like a little upset with her and and i guess we get a little bit of his justification i would say there so now what is meant to have been shown at this dinner party where the next night is that maybe Chris and Dale got drugged. Like we show someone specifically pouring their drinks. So the next night they are out cold. That makes sense.

Oh, okay. Yeah, we didn't see that. She has told Chris like let's leave but the car battery is dead and he's like alright we'll leave first thing in the morning we'll figure it out whatever whatever so now it's night time they're passed out

she can't wake them up she's hearing a sound she grabs the tripod cause the door is like cracking open and closed she's like who is there who is it the door is like cracking open and closed. She's like, who is there? Who is it? The door, uh, flies open, closes,

flies open again. She gets knocked down. Classic paranormal. Yeah. She gets ripped to the ceiling out of the frame. Jesus. And we don't know what happened next morning. She's standing at a window,

just drawing circles in the fog. Oh, that's not good. That's not a good sign um and dale points out to chris that there's like blood in her bed and the camera follows it up her leg to like her crotch essentially oh boy uh-oh big rut row here things have took a turn this there's like a lot in the movie where i i had never really really thought of the work that goes into being like the main woman in a horror movie

you have to do take after take where you are like screaming crying horrified getting ripped all around the place yeah it is like if it's you because you're like oh they did that once and they cried and they did a good job or whatever and it's like emily had to be in such a mental place non-stop not you maybe you also emily but for different reasons uh i was so impressed and then like generally like have a much larger appreciation for that after seeing it in person well like i i spent a whole day lying in bed literally while she had to like try to wake us up and be crying freaking out like scared for her life followed by her getting yanked aggressively to the all around the place so it's really yeah

i've like interviews with shelly devol she talks about how like because the shining took like a year to film it took so long and she's basically just like screaming and freaking out the whole time and was like it fucked me up it was awful it was awful to be in that state for a year yeah didn't kubrick also kind of like bad to her yeah he was like they're bad yeah bad to her but i don't know enough of the story just like having to yeah be in that like even like what it does to you physically that's what i was gonna say how do people not lose their voices more if you're like screaming so much i feel like i would lose my voice immediately yeah i don't know how i mean i know a lot of tea do they was there a lot of tea on set there was a lot of tea on set but that's

because it was so cold that's true um but maybe she drank a lot of tea. I don't know how she kept her voice because there's a lot of screaming later on and she just really like nails it. Yeah, she's great. Wait, can I ask a question about how? Remember, Henley, we said no questions. No. Excuse me. I have a question. So how do do we know how one gets yanked around in that way like how do they

practically do that harnesses i would presume and then do they literally just like pull you around do you kind of it's like they make it pretty safe i think um but this was this was a harness so they wrapped her in a harness and then they put it uh there's a hole in the ceiling so that it's like a pulley um there's like a there's like two guys on the rope pulling it uh and like the stunt coordinator kind of like directing it um and they it's just yeah it's like a straight up yank so they literally yank you any of those and usually they did that with the uh the stunt actress um but like emily wanted to do a few too just like just so that they would have it um but yeah it's just straight up harnesses yeah because that's the thing about it is that like she's literally being yanked like it's it's not the only way to do it yeah it's the only way to

do it yank them yeah yeah awful uh the stunt coordinator mark was just like the coolest dude is this australian dude who got his start he was just a surfer uh and someone he surfed with was did stunts on baywatch oh hell yeah he started working on stunts on baywatch where he just got to like save the baywatch women and Surf All Day. That's amazing. That's great. And then he did stunts on Fury Road. Oh, yeah. Fucking dream. And he does all the Christopher Nolan movies.

That was like... I never thought of when you make... Because it was my first movie, but everyone else, it's like, oh, these people make movies all the time. And so everybody's got a million cool stories. Especially a job like that where it's like, you're the guy for movie after movie.

Yeah. You just go around the world and do cool stunt stuff. He did Dunkirk. Ugh. So damn. But anyway. That's cool, man. Rad.

She gets yanked around. Next day, it's snowing like crazy. And Dale and Chris are looking for a way to get a new car battery. They get picked up by a UPS guy. Oh, well, doesn't Jacob, they ask Jacob about the blood, and he says- Oh, a doctor comes. Oh, a doctor comes. Yeah.

And the doctor is like, oh, just an unusually strong menstrual cycle. Okay. And she's acting weird because she's- She's not like herself. She's passed out out in bed she's like catatonic it's just a bad period yeah don't ask don't it's fine yeah i'm a doctor i'm an amish doctor and it's just a bad period and there's a part where i think we were like cheering over it or screaming at the doctor in the theater but where chris goes like are you no offense but are you an actual doctor uh i'm pretty sure we i think we all were screaming about a heavy period we were like so they do what many would maybe call a mistake and they leave margot to go get the battery

yep oh no the ups guy that picks them up uh is like uh what you're staying you're staying on the baylor farm and what's your documentary about amish people well they're not amish like i've done this route for 20 years uh and everyone that lives here that is amish will tell you that they're not amish which is so freaky that's a twist that is such a twist and i think that's that's in the trailer i know when i saw that on the trailer i was like damn because it's a good when i have a really good twist i found the trailer a little too revealing for my taste so i like trailers to be like pretty mild for horror movies as far as like what you learn about the plot yeah it kind of takes you

through the whole movie vibe yeah it really does but that's a good fucking twist and a great scare, and it was a really cool scene to watch. Yeah. So then they go to the hardware store, they get a battery, they ask the guy if they can use his computer real quick. Side note on this one, I had stomach problems basically for the whole shoot. I think I was just anxious. Yeah. But this day I had just the worst

diarrhea uh and this is this is the day where i had to deliver like the full exposition of the plot oh my god i read it on the computer and we did like 22 takes i think it was like and you're like i need a minute i need a year can we please? That's tough. Oh, that's awful. Movie magic. Movie magic. Sometimes the people you're watching really got a shit. They really got a shit.

You never know. Sometimes. You don't know when. You don't know when. It's true. But it was like, I was being, like, this was, the whole movie was, like, learning how i like to act like on you know in the moment and how to do stuff and like solve problems and i was not doing the scene well in my opinion or i think in everyone's because we did 22 takes so uh i and i was getting like really in my head and i was trying to be like really like

harder yeah i was trying to like close off from everyone and just focus because i was like maybe that'll help but i think it made me more in my head and like looking back at right afterwards i was like oh i should have been more myself i should have like talked to people i should have chatted people up and like gotten in my body a little more but i kept like getting further away from myself by trying to be like sounds like your body was sort of betraying i was gonna say getting more in your body i think your body was doing its own thing i understand the urge to get out of your body because of having to poop because of that it is like it's the crazy thing about acting i think about this all the time where i'm like in a way acting is like the stupidest thing anyone could do and it's just like it's just you're just like talking on camera but also

it's crazy to be like in the moment being like, do this and do it well. And everyone's watching and it is all in you. And like, maybe you really have to shit and maybe you feel terrible and maybe it's, but it's like perform, perform, perform, perform, which is very crazy. Yeah. And be like really present with yourself while you're like like a really a thing i really had to learn because i have like a very director's brain i'm like looking at everything and observing and if if someone else has a problem i want to solve it if i like see something else going wrong i want to and like

a big learning experience is like you can't control any of that shit you literally just have to focus on yourself right and uh that was hard for me to learn and experience um so i thought you did great here dan i appreciate it they get on the computer they search osmodeus and find out that he is the uh the uh prince of lust suffering and wrath he's one of the princes of the overlords of the nine hells and years ago a village uh of beskitter was beset by a plague where osmodeus was set loose and brother turned against brother and neighbor turned against neighbor in abhorrent acts of violence um and the way they trapped the demon was by having a chosen woman of god uh have uh like keep him in her womb essentially

and pass him him down to her kid and then that kid has to have a baby that then passes the demon down and over and over again and so that that was what was happening with sarah margo's mom and she didn't want margo to be the next

the next demon birther so uh she gave her away so that'll solve it but now they got nowhere to put the demon and so a lot of stuff that like isn't really explained but uh is hopefully you could put together is like that that's they were trying to trick margo this movie this movie is basically like against 23 and me right like this is just like a reason why 23 and me should exist i think we learned it a little before that um she looks on samuel's computer margo does and and sees like oh that's why she wants to leave yeah it's like she thought oh we found i found him on 23 and me and i reached out to him, and I wanted to learn from my family. And she goes on his computer and sees that he's been trying to track her down for a long time.

Yeah, Jacob. Yeah, her dad, who is her grandpa, technically. Oh, right. So Jacob's computer. They have a computer that she kind of finds out they're probably not Amish because she finds all the electronics. Right. And, like, emails between him and Samuel that's like, hey, what's the ETA on finding Margo? Whatever. Right. It's all been a catfish. Like, they, hey, what's the ETA on finding Margo? Whatever.

Right. It's all been a catfish. Like they didn't find her on 23andMe. They tracked her down and kind of tricked her. They got to put that demon in her. They need her for the demon. What are they supposed to do? They need her for the demon.

Wait, so did they pretend to be Amish just for her? No, I think the idea is they created this community whose whole intent is to keep the demon at bay. They all know it. That's like their whole deal. They just choose to live off the grid and like as if they're Amish just

to not attract attention basically. Okay. Yeah. It's like and so the other Amish people know they're not Amish. They're like these fuckers they don't do what we do, but nobody else would ever, you know, like people aren't coming there. They're not interacting with the outside world. It's like sort of their cover story. Right.

Got it. We had to, this was in Amish country. So like a lot of the driving to and from set, you're like in an off-road thing and you just pull up on an Amish couple in their cart with the two horses at in the middle of the night with the little like triangular reflector on the back it's very funny and you just have to like go around but just like did you have any good like um amish pie or baked goods when you were no i had intended to uh but a lot of the places were like closed on weekends, weirdly. Or like only were one day a week and it's like

I'm so exhausted from shooting. And they were really everything was really far away. That makes sense too. So I suppose I should have. That's okay, there's no should have, Dan. There's no should have. But they did at the tastemaker screening, the swag bag had all Amish made treats in it. That's fun. And so they did have like a pecan

cinnamon bun there that was very good. Yeah, nice. Delicious. I did have like a pecan cinnamon bun there. That was nice. I did have one a few days ago. Okay, there you go. Good. So they have to run back. Chris and Dale split up back at the farm. Dale's like, I'm going to put the battery away. Chris, you go get Margo. Let's get the fuck out of here.

Chris goes up to the bedroom. Margo's gone. The beds are made. All their stuff has disappeared. He looks in the corner and Samuel is like at a cross praying. And Samuel's like women are something to the extent of like women are beautiful. They're the ones that have to carry this burden. Like they're amazing kind of creatures, whatever. I love to be described that way.

Beautiful, amazing creatures. Beautiful creatures chris runs out to find margo he runs to the church he hears or he doesn't hear her but he sees that the thing is opened and thinks something's going on he lowers himself down and uh before he gets to lower himself down jacob is up there and is like with a shotgun and is like we if she if we don't put the demon in her the demon will be set loose you have to let us do this yeah he's basically like which i think is a cool justification that he's like it makes them like less evil and more just like this is what like you don't understand if this demon gets out it will be really fucking bad we have no choice she's the next one in line they say something like the demon if the demon gets in a man like everyone

we're all fucked and it's like okay they don't want to do this i guess but they're like don't don't for the greater good fuck this up yeah for the greater good and we don't know yet what really happens when the demon is inside of the woman. Yeah. Right? No, I think. No, not really. I think it just. You know, if her body dies, the demon is just in her body, basically.

Okay. And so that's why they really need to pass it. And what you're kind of hopefully realizing is like some of the bad stuff that's happening, the animals being weird to her, the little kids being creepy and kind of wandering around. There's a couple moments where it's like, what is going on is like the demons hold getting stronger on the weak minded, which is like children, elderly and animals. Yeah. It's like they sought Margo out now because it's like, oh, fuck. Like, it's getting stronger. We need a new vessel for this. Yeah. So's like they sought Margo out now because it's like oh fuck, we need a new vessel for this.

So I guess this is a vessel movie. It's a vessel movie. There's three types of movies. Action, fantasy, and vessels. That's right. Drama doesn't exist. Comedy doesn't exist. I wish I hadn't linked myself to three. Action, fantasy,

and vessels. Not even horror. Horror is not one. Action, fantasy, and Vessels. Not even horror. Horror is not fun. No, no. Well, horror could be Vessel. It could be fantasy. Could be fantasy. Could be action.

Yeah. Yep. So he and Jacob fight. Jacob chokes Chris with a Bible. During this shooting day, I was watching a lot of The Challenge, if anyone's curious. Also on paramount plus i was called but the action sequence took longer than they thought so i was just on set watching the challenge that's just a little fun fact the newest season where they brought back the old competitors from the challenge uh no challenge i don't even know what the challenge

is i've never seen it it used to be real world road rules challenge um but it's all those but then it just became the challenge where they would do like feats of strength or whatever yeah gunshot goes off we see Jacob roll over and then slowly slide and then slip and fall down into the pit

Jacob's dead probably Chris harnesses himself lowers himself down sees jacob's like half body there follow some sound sees lavina in some kind of witchy clothes margo passed out and lavina is saying some stuff in i don't know latin, whatever, over her passed out body. He knocks Lavinia over. She's like, no, please, the salt. She's like freaking out. He wakes Margo up, takes her, turns around, and in a bone throne, we see the first glimpse of the demon Osmodeus inside the body of Sarah. It kills Lavinia pretty quickly and rudely

wait wait is it sarah or wait is it sarah's like what does the demon look like it is basically like a decrepit old woman like it's like nasty yeah but human-like, but sort of like, you know? Yeah. Which Legacy FX also did that demon body. So they're now stuck down there. There's no way out because there's no one to crank the harness up. The demon is nearing them. It jumps at them, but it's on a chain, almost like a pit bull in a movie.

Everybody in our theater was wondering why they made the chain so long, because it travels pretty far. Yeah. It's like, if you're going to train it up, make it shorter. Make it shorter. A chain works. And why are you giving it a whole big bone throne? It's a weird level of respect and also not.

Well, maybe it built its own bone throne. She made it build her own bone throne. She may have built her own bone throne. It might have built its own bone throne. Yeah, it got a lot of time down there. A lot of bones. Demon is good with its hands. And so they are stuck down there. What are they going to do?

And we hear the heroic voice of Dale. We do. And everybody screams, Dale! And we're clapping and we're cheering and he's saving the day. He drops the harness down, pulls Margo up. If anyone's curious, this was three separate sets. They made the set of the underground. Then they made a 50-foot tunnel to shoot all of the spelunking stuff, like a 50-foot high tunnel.

And then there was also the church set where you look down into the tunnel. Cool. Yeah. And so they just, like, when you're looking from up high down there, that's just, like, green-screened, and then they added the long tunnel. Dale pulls them both up. Margo is, like, catatonic. He pulls Chris up.

Chris is like, you get the battery. Dale's like, yes, it's in the car. We're good to go. It's in the barn. Let's rock. They're about to leave. And then they hear the thing cranking, the spunking thing. So Chris tries to stop it.

He can't. He looks down and he sees the demon crawling up the tunnel. So they just try to run. He falls down, drops the camera the demon appears and in like phantom slow-mo we kind of see it the most for the first time everyone's like what the fuck is that they run into the snow uh they're all freaking out they can't see what's going on it's snowy behind dale we like see a little bit of the demon or like uh-oh and then chris is like where is everybody and dale's like i don't know where the barn is i can't see shit demon grabs dale

pulls him to the ground grabs his jaw rips it right off i don't like that terrible that's why everything else i've liked yeah you've been enjoying the whole movie dale is dead so that's what you had to do the that's what i did yeah yeah yeah the the prosthetic prosthetic so then they run to the well they cry they scream uh then they run to the proper morning they're devastated they cry they scream proper yes they pray um then they run to the barn they do a proper mourning they're devastated they cry they scream proper yes they pray then they go to the barn they hide amongst some cows

it's very chaotic the demon arrives there's a bunch of little scares there they go up for so for because they're scared

I don't know why I get it when I'm scared I gotta get to higher ground. The demon grabs Chris and Margo is like, Sarah. And she has a moment of like, it's me, your daughter. Please do you remember me? Whatever.

The demon kind of like lightens up, jumps at her. She hits the demon, pushes it back. It falls into the hay baler down the hole. It came back. There it is. pushes it back. It falls into the hay baler down the hole. It came back. There it is. There it is. They go to the car. No keys.

God damn it. Where are the keys? Where are the keys? They run back to Dale's corpse. They grab the keys. Dale's corpse has the keys. This is, I did a lot of laying. This was my laying in the freezing cold ground

for the shoot a few a lot probably for several hours um but they dressed me nice and warm uh the costume designer whitney adams did like worked with boz lorman she was like awesome and she does all of chris land she did like freaky in the death day movies um but she was the one who did the whole dale look which is very like warm lazy tj mac shopper basically nice um so it's very comfortable and anyway they get the keys go back to the barn can't start the car everyone at the barn they see like a man with no eyes all the images they saw kind of painted earlier are kind of now happening the the the demon is unleashed which means like humans are turning against each other and losing their mind when they killed sarah's body that's what let this demon out right the demon is now just

roaming free everyone is like they're like murdering each other like it's like fucking crazy uh originally the little boy eli was supposed to be like stabbing and gutting his own parents. And the original actor they cast, like the parents read the script and were like, he's not going to do that. And then they ended up just being like, you're probably right. That is too crazy. So they cut it anyway. But it was like originally written like really dark and gory and horrifying. And I think that they lightened it up a little bit.

They get to the car, all of the crazy villagers are trying to kill them, they finally get the car started, Arm jumps through the window, punches, tries to get them, they drive away. Margo looks back and screams, like, a scream of, like, terror, relief, catharsis, fuck you, which I just found out, uh, I didn't know because i haven't seen it is a reference to texas chainsaw massacre i also haven't seen it but i've heard about it and i knew it you knew it you know without seeing it probably from this podcast lights down lights back up on a body cam a cop comes he. He sees the horror. He sees the cows dismembered. He hears a baby crying. He walks in and sees Samuel hunched over. Samuel turns around and it turns out the crying baby noise is coming

out of Samuel. He looks at the detective, or the cop, who shoots himself in the head. Another cop body cam pulls up, sees Samuel walk out of the barn. The cop tries to arrest him. Samuel looks at that cop. The cop tries to arrest him. Samuel looks at that cop. The cop shoots himself in the head.

Samuel gets in the car, drives off. The radio changes from like cops to like an old timey song. As he's driving away, the movie ends. Gotta set the tone for his drive. Demon rolls. Wow. Yeah. The demon is out. The demon is out.

The demon is in a man, which is not what you want. That's not what you want. That's bad. That's really bad. I think they shot like three endings. That wasn't the original ending, but that's the one they decided to go with, which I like. Oh, cool. I like the demon.

The demon leaves in one of the cops in one of the original endings or something like that. Oh, I like it that it's in the same. Also, it's like good for this actor who you love who's like now gonna be the fucking demon i guess and then whatever the next movie is probably yeah i hope so they're in sirion by accident but that's the movie i feel like somehow the thing my brain blocked out the most was my own scenes i feel like i missed some of my scenes but we got got through it. Well, I'm going to watch it. I will be watching it. Oh my gosh. I'm curious. I just want to see

you in it, Dan, honestly. I know. I'm going to re-watch it because, if you can recall, I was mostly screaming and not... I didn't get basically any of the plot. But Dan really is... I mean, everyone's good in it, really, truly. But Dan is really good and really funny, and I'm excited to watch it again.

And so everybody should watch it. Paramount Plus. Thank you, Emily. Paramount Plus. I did this last time I was on. I need reassurance. Did we do this right? I feel like I just talked a lot.

You did it perfectly. That's exactly what you're supposed to do. To be clear, last time you came on this podcast, you told us that the premise of our podcast is insane because we just let somebody else talk the whole time. You're like, this is what you want to do? You just let me talk? Yes. And the answer is yes, Dan. Not insane like it's a bad idea, but for you all, it's like you don't get to show off your own selves as much because you're just an audience.

We like to let our guests shine. Quality, not quantity. Quality, not quantity, baby. It's true. It's true. When you do chime in, it's A+. It's A+. It's hard to do.

Sammy does mostly do a lot of the talking in it. It's exhausting. It's so much. Anytime, I've only done it like a couple of times and i'm so exhausted i have tmj sometimes i literally am in pain after a podcast sammy do you ever like get a jaw massage or like do it to yourself or does that hurt i do gua sha so i'll do like it's a little um a little tool that you basically yeah do your own self-massage with but i would love for somebody else to do it that'd be great is it like a jade

roller what is that yeah it's that kind of thing yeah yeah i have a gua sha that feels nice that would that i'm i'm just thinking about doing it on my jaw that sounds great i don't even have tmj but man my jaw hurts too yeah it's nice um oh my god dan you knocked it out of the goddamn park thank you thank you so much the main question i wanted to ask you was what the audition process was like because i am so curious like so you had to improvise yeah so that yeah the first one was like they gave me this uh fake script that was like a custodial guy on a college campus giving someone directions basically oh interesting and they were essentially like feel free to improvise as much as you want but here is the two page three page script uh and then the callback was uh the casting director and the director over zoom uh and the

casting director improvised with me and they gave me two scenarios one that was like fully comedic that was like you're on a date at the person's house and you clog the toilet and you're calling your friend like for help oh that's funny and the second one was like you're in your car and somebody's following you too close and you're and it's getting creepy like you don't know what's going on um and then the third one was the straight up script it was the scene that i had diarrhea for like the the osmodeus uh monologue research scene yeah and then i think it was another one that got cut that was like us walking up to the church and dale talking about how hungry he is essentially and you fucking nailed all three of those auditions this role was like really in my wheelhouse it was like you just get to improvise you just get to be

like kind of uh annoying but and weird uh and it felt like perfect for what I do. Yeah. He's a great improviser. If anybody's not seen his comedy, man, you gotta see it. Get in. Get it. Get it. Get in there. Get it.

Just go out there and get it. Go out there and get it. Get it. On that note, Dan, I mean, obviously we're promoting this movie. Everybody watches this movie, but tell us what people should um check you out in these days you could go to big grande website.com where my group big grande sells all of our uh stuff directly to listeners so that's podcasts animated stuff we just taped a comedy special uh that's four fully improvised shows on totally different sets are they up there yet not yet no we're editing it but just keep an eye on that.

Yeah, that's pretty cool. So that'll be fun. It's like we'd put on four different plays with full sets, wardrobe, and makeup, and wigs, but we didn't know what we were walking into for each of the four other than our own costumes. Yeah, it's fucking great. So we're going to edit that and put it up. And then Man Dog Pod is my improv and conversation podcast with Ryan Rosenberg.

You can listen to free episodes if you just look wherever you get podcasts or our Patreon is patreon.com backslash. No, slash. You're the man now, dog. Don't put a backslash. Don't put a backslash. No, I got some guy. This guy really like needled his way into my head, but he tweeted at me and he was like, you say backslash, it's not a backslash. Isn't it interesting the things that people feel the need to tell you about?

And it is technically helpful. He wasn't being mean about it, but it is like, okay, thank you. Yeah, I mean, you just, look, I know we're all asking for it. We are like, hey, listen to us talk. And then people do and go, hey, I have notes. And I get it. And also sometimes I'm like, fuck, what am I doing? Why am I inviting people to listen to me and then give their feedback?

Because I need it. Because I want people to like me. But if they don't ever say very nice things, I get mad. Like me or shut up? Oh, Dan, this was such a treat treat and i'm just so thrilled for you very well deserved and thank you so so very excited for you and i hope people like the movie i can't wait to watch it i'm excited are there any scary voices in this besides the little children singing a German song?...... ...

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