Too Scary; Didn't Watch - PARANORMAL ACTIVITY with Jessica Jardine

Episode Date: October 2, 2019

A camcorder, a Ouija board, and a demon haunting that you probably should have mentioned to your boyfriend before you moved in together - we're kicking off an extra-spooky October with 2007's Paranormal Activity. Jessica Jardine (UCB's The Dragons and Kar Dishin' It Podcast) joins us to recap Silent Jenna's personal scariest movie of all time. This one might just be our scariest yet so listeners beware! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm scared. And I'm getting braver every day. I'm Henley. I'm also scared. TBD on the bravery part.

I'm Sammy. I'm brave. I think I'm brave. End of sentence. Okay, good. I think that's it. I'm getting there. And Jenna is

silent. Silent as usual. Jenna's here. Silent but deadly. Silent. Did anything scary happen to any of us this week? Anything scary happen? Mine wasn't this week and you guys were both there for it.

But I think it's worth bringing back up because it was a very scary thing i got a text message from an unknown number that just said hi sammy how's your anxiety oh yeah oh yeah i forgot about this oh my god this is perfect are we going to go into the reveal of who it was because that makes it, it's a little scarier. It's scarier. That's a scary text to receive from an unknown number. It was very, very scary. At like 7pm. It's weird. It's so weird.

Yeah. It was just someone I shouldn't have given my number to in the first place who I never added to my contacts because I was like, I don't know about this person. And then they proved it to you. He's since been blocked. So it's dealt with.

OK. But yeah, pretty scary. That is pretty scary. Yeah. That was frightening. Anybody else have any scary things? I mean, mine is a different kind of scary. It wasn't really that scary, but I I didn't bring my water bottle with me

to therapy this week that's the end of the story no I didn't bring my water bottle with me and they have a water they have like cups and stuff in the lobby and I was like there a few minutes early and I was like I can get a I'll just get a cup of water I can get a cup of water and I was sitting here I can get a cup of water on my own and they

you know how like you go to therapy every week, the same people go to other therapists in that building. So you see that they're seeing familiar faces. So the only other people with me in the lobby ever in the waiting room is a couple that are in couples therapy together. And I'm, of course, curious about their deal. And I really, really study their dynamic for the moments that we're together in that waiting room.

But we're like aware of each other. And they come in. I'm sitting with my cup of water I don't even know why or how spill it all over my whole damn lap in the chair my pants are such that it really looks like I peed my pants

and then I have to like awkwardly sit on the like arm of the chair until my therapist like opens it up for me to go in and um it know it just it just was vulnerable more than scary i suppose did you guys have like a conversation about it no we both pretended it wasn't happening oh that makes it so much worse oh good good good good not um just avoided eye contact as we always do you can't make eye contact with other people in the waiting room

for therapy I think that that's a rule I'm not embarrassed to be at therapy but you don't really want to be like I know you're going in there you should say that next time you see them and that'll be the scariest thing that happened to them

in who knows how long. And anything. Fine. I'll tell my scary dream. I don't want to tell it because it was too scary for me. But I'll reveal it anyway. It doesn't sound scary, but I promise it was scary. And also, I'm sorry I'm telling a dream because dreams are boring.

But you guys are just going to have to deal with it. So I had a dream that basically a cat that i really really love came into my house and he was being eaten alive by bugs and i had to get all the bugs off of my cat oh no and it was like extremely distressing and horrible very distressing but i was successful in the end and i got all the bugs off. So I don't know what that says about anything. I think that you're a healer. I think it's a good omen. That's a great spin on it, Sammy. Thank you. Sorry if that was

too real. That was really real. That was too real. We're going to wrap this week's episode up right here. That's it for us. Thanks for tuning in. This is a podcast where Henley talks about her dreams.

And puts you to sleep. And puts you right to sleep. Guys, well, in real time as we record, but not quite, but when this comes out, it'll be October. Everybody knows it's the spookiest month. So we've been trying to find some of the very spookiest, scariest movies we have seen or haven't seen. And this week is Silent Jenna's all time scariest. She's never even seen it, but it's way, way scared.

I also obviously have never seen it. This week's movie is Paranormal Activity. Came out in 2007. An hour and 26 minutes long. Felt like 10 hours. I was very stressed. That's a short movie. It was short and I truly paused and was like, is it almost over?

Is it almost over? Like I was so stressed. Because it's all jump scares. I watched it during the day. I watched it in the afternoon. Still very scared. I watched it during the day. I watched it in the afternoon. Still very scared. Okay. Anyways. Directed and written by Oren

Peli. I think that's how you say it. Starring Katie Featherston, Mika Sloat, and Mark Fredericks. And that's their character names and real names. Is it like found footage? Okay. Yeah. Found footage. Copy that. We had already come up with a list of our scariest movies

and Paranormal Activity was on it. And our guest, because she's just perfect, happened to pick this movie on her damn own. What? I didn't know that. It was fate aligned. Stars truly aligned. The stars truly aligned to get us all here tonight in my

living room. Our guest this week, you can see her. She has her own podcast, Kardashianid, a Kardashian podcast. She performs weekly at UCB with the Dragons and a host of other teams she's always guesting.

She has a show coming up in November at UCB in LA called Hollyweird, which is a Hollywood talk show. She's done before. It's fabulous. She's had such guests as Angeline. Oh my god. Kate O'Kalen.

It's a fabulous time. She also has the best damn hair in Hollywood. It's Jessica Jarvis. Oh my god. Sitting through an intro feels crazy. You're like, uh, go on. What else do I do?

Go on! And, oh, that too! Hi guys! Thanks for having me! Hi Jess! I didn't know that it was on your list. It was on our list? It was on our list. It is really fun to let our guests pick a movie because we always want it to be something that people are excited about.

Yeah. And we're just so thrilled it lined up. And also, this is a movie that I've really wanted to know what happens in it. Like, I've always it's been one that like when it came out, I remember being like, it's so scary. Jenna's really scared. It was the reason I picked it was because it was for me what like opened the door. Like, I had never been a scary movie person ever. Oh, I love that.

Was always in your camp, was always too scared, always. And was like, I don't ever see scary movies, really. And then for whatever reason, like I think it just was such a phenomenon at the time. It was so hyped. Especially re-watching, like it had all the commercials with the like fan, the kind of like, um. Oh, the audience reactions.

Yeah, you know, the night vision. The night vision in the screen shots. And I the kind of like oh the audience reaction you know the night vision and I remember just being like what happens and I was like very very brave and saw it and it oh my god it ruined me I was a maniac I was like truly a nerve me beyond belief and but then it also got me

like excited about scary movies and it's like and then Betsy ended up becoming like my scary movie coach and she like brought me in the fold so it was very much my first that's exciting did you see it in theaters? I saw it in theaters I saw it at the Arclight in the day

and was like truly wigged out beyond belief like I couldn't sleep for days it truly got in my brain like believed in demons. I was very affected by it. I'll be scared when watching a scary movie, but what I really can't

deal with is how scared it leaves you after. At the end of the day, you're in your house. It's dark out. That feeling of dread in your own life is so scary. It's a crazy thing to choose to do. Yeah. Yeah. But hey, but hey, some people

do. So that got you into scary movies. What's the scariest movie you've ever seen for you? You're like, that's that's my threshold. Oh, my God. What a good question. Betsy Marcy and I went and saw one and it was about like it was like a scandinavian movie that

not that long ago where the mom comes back from like plastic surgery yeah and that one was not so much like so frightening to me but it had a bunch of like eye stuff and like um i betsy got up and left which is like historic It was historic like I Marcy and I stuck it out but it was like It was right I would Not say I'm great with gore it's Not why I like to see scary Movies and it was like

So much like just lips And eyes and like That's I would say like a different genre To me like stuff where like people's eyes Are in mouths getting sewn shut and like That's like a total I would say like a different genre to me like stuff where like people's eyes and mouths getting sewn shut and like that's like a total I would say it's like a big discrepancy to me in the world like conjuring like

even paranormal activities and like just body stuff and I don't I'm not like generally into that so that one was one that I remember just being like and when Betsy got up and was like I'm leaving I was like you're smart but So that one was one that I remember just being like, and when Betsy got up and was like, I'm leaving, I was like, you're smart. But yeah, that, that one really, really, I think scared me to death, but I will say for real paranormal activity,

like probably scared me the most. Yeah. I've specifically avoided it for this reason. So I saw it for the first time yesterday. Ghost stuff. You don't like ghosts. This is ghost slash demon. It tends to always be. I would have thought they were two very separate things

but apparently when you got ghosts you got demons. They're kind of the same. They get into the differences in it. Yes they do. They help explain it a little bit. That's great. They're both very scary. Yes they. But they're both very scary. Yes, they are.

They're both very scary. They're both very scary. Very scary. Oh boy, we are really gonna need a drink to make it through this week's episode. So thank God,

it's cocktail hour. This week's cocktail is a ghost Bloody Mary, or I guess in this case, a demon Bloody Mary. Very spooky. This drink is pretty complicated to make and took me quite a long time, so if any of you listeners end up making this cocktail, please send us a photo. I will be very impressed and it will make me feel like it was all

worth it. The key ingredient to making a Ghost and or demon Bloody Mary is tomato water. Basically you will blend four beefsteak tomatoes in a blender and you can add other ingredients as well. I added some cucumber, some celery, some onion, garlic, and jalapeno. You blend it all up and then pour it through a few layers of cheesecloth. You'll first get kind of a pink water. So you'll just have to keep running it through the cheesecloth as many times as it takes to get clear water. And it really does get clear in the end.

I was shocked and spooked. Once you have your tomato water, you use it like you would a Bloody Mary mix. And combine whatever proportions you want with two ounces of vodka. We also added about a half an ounce of pickle juice. Then you garnish with a celery stick or a pickle spear or anything you like. It was really tasty in the end, and since it's Halloween month, this is like a perfect spooky cocktail to have on hand. So yeah, make it for all your friends and impress them and again,

send us a photo. We would love to see it. Do you have any trivia? I just know it made a shitload of money on zero budget pretty much. It has the highest return historically ever. That's why they made so many. One of the trios I saw. I actually don't know how much

It was paramount right? It was shot by this guy Oren Peli Just on his own In his house And it was like 7 days and they got paid $500 I saw that They literally booked it off of LACasting.com Oh my god

And it was like It was just like a thing he made Basically as a proof of concept and it happened to get seen by like high enough people but the whole plan had been to like reshoot redo it and because they're like it's like so low budget like it's insane.

Yeah, I heard they wanted to like recast and everything. Like a full. Like a great idea but we're going to redo it and then in order to figure out like how to best redo it, they did test screenings with audiences and just to like get a sense of what was working and what wasn't and that the audiences

were freaking out at the original and like losing it. And so then they were like, oh, this is a whole thing. It's like I mean, and when was Blair Witch? Because Blair Witch is like the same sort of thing and that it was like maybe, but people like didn't know that Blair Witch was not real. No. Whereas people knew that this was

not real. But it was kind of confusing like they tried to spin it as not. They do the same sort of thing. Yeah. They tried to do the same thing. But we were like we remember Blair Witch. Yeah. Fool me once shame on you. But it is like a historic movie in that sense and it's why they clearly

went on. And I mean when you think about the cost of making it. And also it literally is inside the entire time. You are never. There's like one starting shot outside in the driveway. There's one patio shot and a pool shot. But like to think about like the cost of making it. There's two people in it. Oh, it's so cheap.

It's insane. No special effects almost at all. Like it is so affordable. So I'm sure it's like when somebody saw the first reality TV show and they were like wait a minute we can do this people want to watch this wow we're gonna be rich a hundred should we um watch the trailer let's watch the trailer high def camera on my girlfriend katie she thinks there's something in the house. You believe me, right? I think we're going to have a very interesting time capturing whatever paranormal phenomena is occurring or is not occurring.

Windows relaxed, doors relaxed, alarm is on. Jeez, this looks like something bit you. It's not the house, it's me. oh that scared me so bad. Oh my god. I'm trying to watch the whole thing. I think doing this podcast is desensitizing me. I'm like not letting myself

feel any emotion watching these trailers. Wow. That really scared me. I I'm worried about it, though, because maybe I'm becoming too disconnected to myself. Oh, my God. OK, well, let's let's get into it. Let's go. I want to hear I want to hear everything about this movie from A to Z. Sounds like the character starting with the characters is easy.

There's two. There's two. Katie and Mika. They're a couple. A couple in San starting with the characters is easy. There's two. There's two. Katie and Mika. They're a couple. A couple in San Diego. She's a student. I don't remember what he does. It also starts with a title card that says

the filmmakers would like to thank the families of Katie Featherstone and Mika, whatever his last name is, and the San Diego Police Department. So they're doing like the little fake out like documentary thing. So you're doing like the little fake out like documentary thing. Whoa. Yeah.

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another big part about the movie that deserves credit is that they are like such real feeling people and types that's huge they're so real looking they feel it's like they feel like a real couple and like so yeah he's basically he's gotten a camera because they've been he as they're kind of like setting it

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And I think the movie deserves a lot of credit for the like the steepness in terms of like ascending to scary because it's like so much of it at the beginning is like so benign and chill and just like they've really done a so much of it at the beginning is like so benign and chill and just like they've really done a good job of making him the like kind of broey goof

who's like really mature and like isn't scared and like who cares and like I'm gonna whatever I'm gonna find out I'm gonna take care of it yeah just very like whatever's going on who cares about this camera we're gonna figure it out and it's her being like okay okay well and then she kind of drops this big like breadcrumb of like, well, you know,

because he's like, I'm going to figure it out and figure out what's been haunting you. If it's those kids across the street, we're going to catch them. And she's like, well, then it would have to be kids who have been following me since I was eight. And you get this kind of like, oh, and then you kind of get's like breadcrumb that like she's been having weird stuff happen to her like her whole life oh okay and that kind of gets like played out a little bit more like you start kind of learning about what's going on in the house

the psychic come they get a psychic and that's kind of where she like really lays out all her history she's like it happened when I was 8 I would wake up there would be a person at the foot of my bed happened when I was 8 I would wake up there would be a person at the foot of my bed when I was 13 same thing like in me and my sister's room

or whatever but always at the foot of my bed not my sister's and then our house burned down they could never figure out the cause but they ruled that it wasn't electrical that it wasn't anything that there was an undetermined cause and then they had to move houses but that it continued when she was like 13.

There was like another kind of burst. And she basically explains that like there's been these like bursts in her life of similar stuff like this happening to her. Right. So here it is again. Oh, no. And the psychic says kind of like he's like, well, I deal with ghosts. This sounds like a demon. This is, I think, a key part.

And this is where I think if you and I remember being like, oh, because it basically explains. He's like, yeah, my I deal with ghosts. And that's about humans and being attached to humans, like something that is was a human and is stuck in between or needs something remedied. What a demon is, is a non-human entity oh my god oh god and that's scarier it's way scarier and i remember at the time being like what it's all about how like there's a he's like i don't deal in demons like i cannot help you with demons and like kind of like a little too freaked out it's like, like don't scare them more than you have to. He scares them really, really badly. He scares them really bad. He's like, I'm gonna refer

you to a demon specialist. I mean, I deal with ghosts all the time. Ghosts are normal. Ghosts are fine. Not scared. I will not touch demons. Goodbye. He also lays out an important plot point where he's like also like if you play with it, like if you try, if you engage with it or you try to fuck with it, basically,

you will open a door. Oh, my God. You need to not... It has to be... And his whole thing is like, what I'm hearing is that it's attached to you. Right. After she tells this whole story of how it's been these bursts throughout her life. He's like, it sounds like it's attached to you.

It wants something from you. Oh, my God. Oh, no. And he's like, so your best bet is to go to my colleague this demonologist a demonologist great i immediately had the thought like an improv scene of like just on a date like how you manage that and like how you describe that to anyone ever because he says it very casually my colleague he's a demonologist my demonologist calling like okay cool yeah the whole thriving sector of the economy that I was not aware of.

And so, does he know at this point that they've talked about, like, we're going to film? Like, is that because they, like, don't fuck with it? Well, yeah, because the, well, they kind of, they've set up this dynamic of the boyfriend being kind of, like, suspicious and a bit, like, oh, come on. He's, like, yeah, rolling his eyes at the psychic and, like, oosh, I play this spooky music when the psychic comes to make him feel feel he's just being kind of an asshole. And like Katie's like, can you please take the series?

Like this has been haunting me since I was eight years old. But in order to film, I mean, to their credit, like literally every scene is filmed and like through his camcorder, right? So it's like everything.

So it's a whole thing where he is like filming him and like in their meeting. I think he brings up a Ouija board. Like, should we get it? Should we get a Ouija board? Would that help? And and the psychic says, like, no, that's like inviting him in.

That's how you like if you engage with it, the door opens kind of a thing. So it's like setting up all of that. And then she's really like, like okay i want to go with this like demonologist and start like figuring out what's happening um and he's like very much the pushback on it and it's like what allows the movie to play out a lot more you know he's like well let's just like try let's wait until it gets horrible it's like we have no other choice whole plan is basically like look the main purpose of the camera is to set up at night because that's when it happens. And it's the purpose of all

the movies. In their bedroom. All the movies are built around like a thing that pops up, the light, they go to bed and it comes up and it's like night two. And then the time and then it goes into, you know, like the time clock in the corner. I was going to say that the time turner like turning quickly, it's just, that is unsettling. Just watching like people in

fast motion. I was like, just this is freaking me out. Like even if I knew nothing was going to happen, it's just that is unsettling. Just watching like people in fast motion. I was like, just this is freaking me out. Like even if I knew nothing was going to happen, it's just creepy to watch people sleeping. It's like it's them in bed. It'll be like, okay, they're going to bed. They're good. And it's always they find all these ways. It's like he's filming her getting ready for bed and they do a good job of finding really natural like and

he's always like really horny for her. Yeah. He's like, let's film us having sex. And she's like, haha, no. They do a nice job of like giving reason for every time he has the camera out and it's not just that feeling of like why would you be recording this you know right um and then they set it up every night in bed facing them and that becomes like the very famous kind of like shot of their bed yeah and yeah and then it's like you get this sort of counter and it's like what is so scary about it is it's literally like you know, 12 and it's kind of speeding and going nothing. And they're like, she's like fast forwarding in bed while they're like sleeping and moving around.

And then all of a sudden it goes like and it slows down or stops. And then it's like, you know, 1.14 a.m. and you're like, oh, you are waiting because it's then it's just real time and you're like something. And that's what I mean by like you just start scanning the frame and it's dark and you can't really see. But you're looking down their hallway and you're just like, what is going to come into this frame? Yeah. And they do a really nice job of it starting small. Like I think the first couple nights, it's literally just like kind of weird, faraway sounds in the house. I think you hear sounds and like faint footsteps.

The first one, I think think is you hear keys fall. Yeah. And then in the next morning she finds her keys like in the middle of the living room. Yeah. Like small things. She's like, did you throw my keys? What happened? He's like, oh yeah, that's definitive proof that like our house is haunted.

Like listen to the woman. It's the point of the movie. And there's, yeah, like creaking and moaning and then I think the door slamming is the first like big thing. Yeah and then he ends up like at some point like the next day he like scrubs through the footage always and is

kind of like what happened and that's how he ended up like seeing a lot of it which is also a kind of neat feature like it's like they're watching it the next morning and it's being like wait what was that? And so and he like bumps up the audio on one and he can hear this like weird kind of neat feature like it's like they're watching it the next morning and it's being like wait what was that and so and he like bumps up the audio on one and he can hear this like weird kind of like demonic like growling

like it's not a language and it's or anything it's just this like weird gross like low low sound time to call the demonologist well you'd think but he's like no I got this I got this babe I got this and then when it really picks up so it's kind of like small things like

that and then on night 13 that they've been recording there's this like really scary like horrifying demon sound of like just a like kind of sound and then a really loud thud and they like go running downstairs and they have like a big light fixture

the chandelier is like swaying. And it's really scary because they're filming it like it's very annoying. You're like turn the lights on. Turn the regular lights on. They never do because it's all the like camcorder light, you know, so it's just like that's what it's so scary. And it's the panning like left and right and you're just like

what's going to be in the corner? Like just turn the lights on so I can see the whole room. Do they ever turn the lights on? In some rooms they do, but for the most part, no. And it's like, we need to be turning all the lights on. We should be turning the lights on. Sleeping with the lights on is key. A high electricity bill will be worth it.

And then, night 15 comes, and this is where things start really, I would say, picking up. In the footage you see her get out of bed. This is where it gets real scary.

You see her get out of bed and she stands and she faces the bed and you see the clock going for hours. She stares at him sleeping for hours. And then she walks outside. She walks out the door and you're like what oh my god and then he um he goes he wakes up and she's not in the bed and he goes with his

camera and goes outside and it's really scary him like trying to figure out where she is and he goes outside and she is like they have like a little kind of patio swing out by the pool and she's just like sitting on it like kind of catatonic. Yeah she's like super out of it and kind of like mumbling things to him. He's like what are you doing? And she's like I'm fine. He's like it's really cold. She's just wearing like boxers and a tank top. And she's like

leave me alone. Like go back inside. I'm fine. Like just being so scary. He's like come inside at least come inside is he freaked really freaked out or not he's really like but he's he's never like the thing that i think is interesting is he's never like scared he's his whole thing is very like what the fuck what's happening yeah he's wrong with you he's like more mad about it and that's i think what creates like a nice juxtaposition is she gets more and more and more scared so it means when he does start getting

scared that like you are suddenly so like take it serious because he has been so unaffected by it for so much of it and so but while he's out there trying to get her to come inside you hear this like crazy sound inside the house and he runs in and up in the bedroom their big TV is on

like really loud like like the fuzz is on really loud yeah and then all of a sudden she she's suddenly back in the room she's like at the door and he's like and she's like what's going on and she's clearly like woken up and it's like what's going on and turn the take the camera off me and she's like wait you were sitting outside what do you mean and she's like what do you mean i was outside and then the next it goes to the next day and she's like i literally he's showing her all the footage and she's like I don't remember that like

I don't remember I remember standing at the door and like you had the camera on me and I woke up oh get out of there get out of there well they know that it's about her that's the whole that's why it's such a good idea because it's followed her house to house and the psychic

like said that like it's gonna her house to house. And the psychic said that. It's going to follow you wherever you go. Which is such a great root conceit because it's like you feel this panic. There's no escape. It's like they just have to figure out what to do moment to moment because there's nothing. There's nowhere they can go. Right. Oh my

God. I know. Do you guys want to sleep over at my house tonight? No, I want you to stay here and I'm not going anywhere. I want you to stay here. Then you get, then it really picks up and you find he has the camera set up and it's just him and you see him ring out a Ouija board. You knew he was going to do it.

In the middle of the night. Why? No, it's the daytime and they like, about to leave for a date. You find out. But, like, he was, he's like, okay, babe, surprise. It's, like, so crazy. Because, like, obviously she's gonna be pissed. And he's, like, acting like this thing that we both want to do.

So he sets up the Ouija board and is like, babe, before we leave, like, let's just do it. Let's try it. And she rightfully flips out and gets, like, really mad. Shuts it down. And screams at him and is like, let's just do it let's try it and she rightfully flips out and gets like really mad and screams at him and is like let's fucking go um because they're leaving to go out for the night and she's like no i'm not gonna do the ouija board before we go and she like storms out and then you get this with the camera still on still set up and rolling just watching the ouija board they do a good job a A long chunk passes. I was like, I thought something happened in this scene. And you're like, because it's just on this Ouija board. So did they get up and leave?

They're out. They left the house. They left the house. But the camera is still, he put it on the coffee table. But they like, it sits there forever. And then all of a sudden. I mean, that's like the whole thing with this whole movie is that it's just such long pauses where you're just like,

something is about to happen. You're so tense. It's so tense. It's so creepy. So it's super still for like a minute. And then it's like the plants leaves waving in the wind. And then the cursor starts like moving on its own like pretty quickly. And then the Ouija board lights on fire. It goes...

And it moves around. So it's spelling something. It's spelling something. And then it lights on fire. And then it cuts to the next day. It cuts to them coming home. You're like, wait, does the house burn down? But it just, I guess, the fire goes out.

And he finds the Ouija board and he's like something happened like what the hell it left a message for us because it kind of like burned a weird little like like inscription into it like it looks kind of engraved almost and he's like trying to figure out like what it is but you still don't know and she's like he's like babe babe like look at this like we gotta we gotta figure out what this said and she's just like throw it in the goddamn trash like why are you doing this to me and he's like babe babe like look at this like we gotta we gotta figure out what this said and she's just like throw it in the goddamn trash like why are you doing this to me and he's like consistently just like come on babe babe babe come on what's this what's he trying to tell us and then we get so now he's really in like problem solving mode so he decides he's like they agree that like okay he gets one last attempt, and this is the last night that they're gonna, like... Why does she agree

to that? I mean... Why do women agree to so many things? The whole time, she's like, let's call the demonologist. Let's call the demonologist. Literally, the only person who will know... He probably has to think that it's his idea. He is like, I'm gonna beat... He is like, I'm gonna beat this thing. I'm your boyfriend. I'm gonna fix it. Babe! Babe!

Babe! I got this! And he gets this idea. She's like,'s like okay fine you can do the powder experiment and the agreement is that he gets to do this powder experiment this is the last thing and then they're gonna call the demonologist uh based how it goes and so he does a thing where he like basically pours baby powder like all the top of the landing out because they're on the second floor it's like a two- story little kind of condo. Actually pretty spacious. And so he puts like baby

powder down the hallway and then all on the landing like before it gets into their room. Not into their room. And that's his like big plan and she's like making fun of him like okay cool baby powder plan. And then it gets to like who's going to clean up this fucking baby powder. She's like also mad about it. She's like I'm not cleaning up this fucking baby powder plan and then it got like who's gonna clean up this fucking baby

she's like i'm not cleaning up this fucking baby powder he's like we know she did and then they wake up in the night in the night in the middle of the night and he's like oh fuck and there's powder footprints all in their room not But they're not even like, I like had not remembered this. They're not like footprints. They're like three-toed. Oh, no. I couldn't see because it was daytime when I watched it. It's like an ostrich foot. Like it's like a three claw.

Oh, no. That's so bad. It's not a foot. I hate that so much. It's like a claw. And so they turn on the lights and it's like coming from the landing up to their bed. Oh God. And they're like what? And then they go out in the hallway

and it's down the hallway. These like weird little tracks of this three claw thing. Is this still the middle of the night? Yes, middle of the night. That's the thing is the other thing to keep in mind is now bigger things keep happening every night and they're up for like big chunks. They're up a lot so they're getting some sleep deprivation. Delirious kind of looking and really like really haggard. Another thing I think they do really

effectively. How would they ever fall asleep? They're so sleep deprived. They look so haggard. These things keep happening. They go down the hallway and then they see that it leads into a little closet and she screams because

it's one of those closets that has an attic. Like a little door to the like screams because it's one of those closets that has like an attic you know like a little kind of door to the door to the attic and it's open she's like please tell me you opened that and obviously he literally goes obviously no and he's like I'm gonna look

it's the demon I'm fucking with I like how that's what she screamed at though I would definitely be more scared by the three by the footprints in my bedroom next to my bed. So she he's like, I'm going to go up and look. Oh, my God. I know. She's like, no, no, no. I'm just going to look.

In the middle of the night. It's nighttime. He gets the ladder. He goes up. He's like, I'm just going to look. I'm going to look. I'm not going up into it. But of course, he like pokes up. It's so scary because you're looking through the ladder. He goes up. He's like, I'm just gonna look. I'm gonna look. I'm not going up into it. But of course, he like pokes

up. It's so scary because you're looking through the camera. It's the camera light going through like a fucking attic. That's the thing. There's no like time to relax in this movie. No. And this is what I this is. This is exactly the type of scary movie that scares me most is when you're just constantly

waiting. Just braced. I know I've said it before, but I really am just reliving it, imagining this like poking up through the attic and just being like, why? It's so and she's freaking out. She's like, please come down. Please come down. And he sees

in the far corner like you can't tell what it is. It's like there's all this sort of insulation. And then you see like a thing. Like a rolled up thing. You can't tell what it is. It's like there's all this sort of, what's the insulation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you see like a thing. Like a rolled up thing. He's like, oh, there's like something over there. And then he goes up and he gets it.

And then she starts having like a panic attack. She's like, he's not responding. She's like, Micah, Micah, Micah. And then he comes back down. He does come out. She's like, oh! And he's like like this is what was up there and it's a photograph of her as a little girl oh no and the edges are all burned oh no and he's like what is this you and or and she immediately is like this is from my old house

that burned down and she's like i haven't seen this photo in 15 years and so she starts she's like immediately spiraling right of course and then they get to 15 years. She's like immediately spiraling. Right. Of course. And then they get to the next morning. She's like, I'm calling. I'm calling. That's it. And she's like the next day it's like her on the couch just holding the photo. She's so spun out about it, understandably.

Of course. I mean, who do you call? The demonologist. Thank God there's a demonologist to call. But the demonologist is out of town. Stop it. You can't make this shit up. He'll be back in a few days.

He's out of town. Just hang in there. He's on vacation. He has a hard life. He has a hard life. He's busy. Motherfuckers waited too long. They waited too long. They did wait a freakishly long time. It's like 15.

This is now day 19. Almost a month? Yeah. Hell no. Oh God, no. They called back the psychic guy just because they're out of options and they have to and he literally like... I think this is one of the best scenes in the whole movie. It's like is one of the best scenes in the whole movie.

It's like the only time that I laughed in the whole movie. It's so crazy. It's like kind of funny. They're like, hey, hi. They're like so scared. You know, they're like, they're really out of their minds now. They're like, oh, my God. So happy he's back.

And they're also like, you also feel stir crazy. Because you've been in this house with them the whole time. Yeah, you're like, please, God, somebody help these people. And so the door opens and you're like, a person. And he's like hey hi and he walks in and it's a great act i thought he did like a good job he's like he's really nice and then as he's walking through the threshold he's like and you see him physically get hit by like whatever is it he's like i can't be here he like, it doesn't like me being here and me being here

is hurting you, not helping you. I need to go. And keep in mind, they've already established, I don't know where they said, maybe he lives in LA, but that he drove down to San Diego the first time. So it's like, he's not even local and like the speed that he leaves is so crazy. He's like, I'm so sorry. He takes like one step in and he's like, goodbye. I'll try to help you.

I'll try to help you. I have to get out of here. I'm doing more harm than good. I have to go. I have to go. Oh my god. And and he's like goodbye. I'll try to help you. I'll try to help you. I have to get out of here. I'm doing more harm than good. I have to go. I have to go. Oh my god. And then he's out so fast and that's when you're really like oh shit. They're like stranded. There's nobody who will help them now at this point. They haven't even tried

the police. I know it's a dumb question but I mean like wouldn't you be reaching out to like someone? But what could they pop because they couldn't actually do anything except to just like get other eyes on it but they're not going to stay in your house all night you know they can't do that

maybe you could like commit a big crime and go to jail and be under like 24-7 surveillance yeah that probably yeah that probably still wouldn't work commit a big crime good big old crime. It's a good conceit for a movie because you kind of keep trying to figure out

what you would do. But every time you're like, go to a hotel. And you're like, well, but we'll call your friend over. It's such a good conceit for this kind of movie. There's just no escaping it. So then he leaves.

The doctor leaves. And now it starts happening in the daytime. So there's like a big picture smash that they hear like a smash of glass and they run over and it's their framed picture is on the wall, like a couple picture. Yeah, it's like them two like snuggling together and it's been smashed. But it's smashed over his face and his face has a big like huge claw mark through it. And he's like, why is it my face?

Why do you think? There's also a very fun side little side thing that I love that I completely forgot that she has like a little table in the corner of the house that's her like beading table. She has like a lot of beads and it's like very, what is this like lot of beads and it's like it's very

what is this like 2007 yes that's like well i have to bead yeah she's multifaceted it's just like a big messy table with a bunch of beads what a choice to have written in like well she's got a corner and she's what will she do to relieve this stress make more bracelets it's so funny to me um and then okay okay then we get a couple a couple great things then that night uh that's the night that the the ruffle of the sheets we're like gets in bed with them and you see and you see for the first time this like dark shadow go across their bedroom door like this like it's not a shape even it's just this like weird cloud goes across and then you get that billowing of the sheets it is the show she wakes up frantic and is like he's breathing on me he's breathing on me he's breathing on me she kept

being like i hear him breathing in my ear that i was really i did not like that. It's such a horrible visual. But you're seeing him basically get like closer and closer like towards them like in the bed and then the next day he, the boyfriend, finds and shows her on the computer like he

ends up finding some website that has a story of a woman in the 60s. Right, right. Who's the exact same thing happened to where it's like a demon attached itself to her. It kept happened in these bursts ever since she was a kid. And and it's kind of like weird where he tries to connect it. He's like it was what he was spelling out on the Ouija board.

It was Diane. And I was like, I don't get this. Yeah, I also didn't get it. I didn't even write it in my notes because I was like, well, I don't get this yeah I also didn't get it I didn't even write it in my notes because I was like well I don't get this but you do learn that this other woman but what's really scary is she's like well what happened to her and he's like

and then it like zooms in on the computer screen and it's like photos of her like in full exorcism mode with like blood coming out of her mouth it's like what a crazy thing for me to be like I found someone who's the same. Here's something to ease your worries. Just ignore the last part.

You're not alone. This woman died. And they get in a huge fight. Things are like so, so tense. The other thing that in the very first meeting that they had with the psychic, he was like, they're like drawn to negative energy or like fed by negative energy. So like the like they're like drawn to negative energy or like fed by negative

energy so like the more they're fighting I'm sure once they started fighting I was like fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck I totally forgot about that yes so he was like if you guys are you know putting out negative energy that's when they're like strong when it will be strongest so now they're like constantly

did they forget about that little they're really sleep deprived you know they're like they haven Did they forget about that? They're just sleep deprived and you know, they're like, they haven't at the end of their rope. At the end of their natural rope. So then we get to, this is the big night. I gotta say, I love this movie so far. I'm telling you.

Loving every second of it. It's paced really well. So then it's night 20 and this one is really scary. Oh my God. So this one, they're asleep. The camera's going. She's asleep.

And we've already had one night where it like, or the billowy night, it like tickled her foot. You could see like it was kind of her foot moved a little bit. This night, it's horrifying. You see like the covers go back and her leg like start getting pulled and it pulls her off the bed and then whips her down the hallway. And she screams so loud. And then he jumps up and he's she's like, as it like sucks her down the hallway. And as he jumps up their bedroom door slam shut.

Yeah. And so you oh my God And so you give me goosebumps. And he's like and then he like manages to get the door open but you're still just going through the camcorder shot so you can't see them at the end of the hallway. You just like hear commotion. She is screaming. She's hers both. I mean

their screams are so good. She's a great scream. She's a great scream. She's a great scream. It is a scream that rattles your bones. It's truly the kind of scream that you're like, oh, that person is dying. A distress scream. So you hear them and he's like, let go of her.

Give her back. And you can hear he's pulling her and you can't really see it, that it's like the thing has like pulled her down the hallway and they're having like some crazy commotion and then all of a sudden they like run back in the room and slam the door and she's like obviously like hysterical

because it like yanks her out of bed and down the hall and they're like it's okay it's okay it's okay it's okay and then the next I think they do like a little fade to black and then like the next morning they're like downstairs and they're like okay we're gonna get a hotel like I'm gonna get a hotel gotta get out of here and then he's like let me like get

on camera what it did to your back oh and it like pulls up her shirt and has like this really not human bite mark it's like teeth but not in like any animal formation. It's like they're like in this crazy pattern.

Yeah, it's like zigzaggy teeth. And it's really red and like tender. Like he goes to like touch it and she's like, ow. Like it's like a really tender. It's big. It's big. It's like eight inches, like huge on her back. And you're like, oh, my God.

But she's still herself, you know, and they're like, OK, let she's still herself you know and they're like okay let's go and he's like let's start packing let's go let's go it's time oh but he like when he's like okay I'm packed we're packed and ready to go she's like sitting on the ground again looking like catatonic now though something's happened because the last

scene she was like very downtrodden and like just like but like herself she's like yeah let's go let's go and then you come down he comes on the stairs to like okay we're packed let's get out of here and she's sitting on the ground against the wall with her legs out in front of her and she's like fully catatonic oh

god and he's like hey let's go let's go and she's not responding and she's her eyes are open but she's like just facing forward and like fully catatonic and then oh no what are you holding oh god oh, but she's just facing forward and fully catatonic. And then he's like, what are you holding? Oh, God. Oh, God.

And she's clenched. I actually don't know what it is. It's a wooden cross. And she has this little wooden cross in her hand. The thing where it's like your nails are digging so hard into your hand. I don't know if we got any Riverdale fans. I was about to say, got any Riverdale fans but this is a Betty Cooper move

anyway it's Riverdale but Katie's holding a little cross but he like opens her hand and it's all filled with blood it's filled with blood because she's dug her nails into her palms so hard and he starts to really finally he's like I'm what the fuck

and he's really losing it suddenly he's like yeah i'm fucking sick of this i'm so fucking sick of this and he's like losing it um and he's because he thinks they're like finally about to just leave at least and so suddenly you see him throw it in the fireplace and he's like i'm fucking done with this and he like burns the little cross like sets it on fire in the fireplace. Right. And then it's upstairs back and he goes back in the bedroom. He like moves her to the bedroom because she's like so out of it and she's like saying like no I want to stay

like I don't want to go anymore. I want to stay. I wrote possessed question mark? It's not her anymore. No it's not. 100% possessed. She's like I want to stay now and he's like what? And she's like I want to stay now. It's going to be okay. I think it will all be okay. It will all be okay. I don't want to stay now. And she's like, he's like, what? And she's like, I want to stay now. It's going to be okay. I think it will all be okay. It will all be okay. I don't want to leave anymore.

I don't want to leave anymore. And he's like, what are you talking about? Because it's like minutes before they had this whole plan. And he's like, no. And she's like, I think it will all be okay. I think we should stay. And you're like, what? And he's like so confused. And then he leaves the room and she's laying there in bed and then she smiles.

It's so scary It's so scary And I was too scared to take notes For the big final night I took notes for the big final night So it's night 21 I guess She convinces him not to go to the hotel They go to bed. Katie does the old

get up stare at Mika for hours. And moves around. Stares at him from her side of the bed for like three hours. Then walks around to the other his side of the bed. Just close to him.

Stays there for like two hours and then walks downstairs. And the way the camera is set up, you can't, you know, obviously see where she goes. So she's just gone. And then like the most blood-curdling screams you've ever heard in your life.

Like truly, no, it was like actually like I don't know how an actor screams like this. Like this is like reserved for the kind of like this is. It's a it's a big of a horror movie scream as you can. And she's like, like, oh, my God, his name. And he jumps up, of course, and runs down. And then there's like, I feel like demon noises. And her screaming.

His screams now too. Like it's just this cacophony of like the most upsetting sounds and you can't see what's happening. The camera is just on this empty bedroom and it's nighttime and you're just hearing it all happen downstairs. Silent Jonah is drinking plentiful amounts of wine right now and dead silent dead silent for like oh jenna's not doing well jenna looks so pale

um so silence for way too long boom the old footsteps coming back up the steps coming back up the steps like Coming back up the steps. Like who or what? And you do not know what's like coming back into the room.

So his body flies into the room, hits the camera, falls on the ground. And then you see it's her and she's got blood all over her. And she like clomps towards him in this like zombie walk. And then she gets down on her knees and it's like really herky jerky move oh he's dead he's definitely dead yeah he's dead and it's like he's fully dead on the ground and you see her just sort of like kind of like waft over

him and then her head like jerks up to the camera oh no and yeah then she's like looking at the camera for a second And then I feel like She has like a Crazy demon growl

And launches at the camera She zooms towards the camera And like in the last second Her face like morphs into like An insane like crazy demon face Like mouth open And then it goes to black. And then they're like, the police.

They're like, Mika's body was discovered on whatever, October, whatever. And Katie was never seen again. Never seen again. So she's gone. What? That was scary. That was really no i really didn't expect it to end with her just like being a demon she's a demon like he got her like and like in that bite like that's when it happened

and he like possessed her got her and then killed him yeah this it's really sad that he died. Really sad that she didn't find that demonologist sooner. I know. Listen to women. He got his. He could have prevented that. That's on him. Personal responsibility. Yeah. This was a really

tough one. I loved that movie. I'm so glad I didn't have to see it. It's a real classic. I think it's like a special. It's an important movie in the like canon of scary movies because they really like the how cheap it was to make and how like it's a really special inventive piece of like filmmaking. Oh, yeah. No, I was thinking like the scariest thing for me was like never seeing the thing.

Like I kept being like, are we going to get a like big reveal of like seeing the demon? And it's like scarier that you've done. It's never as good. It's so interesting that it seems like it does have some sort of physical, like it was under the sheets. It has footprints. It has footprints. But you don't. That has three toes but you don't

that's so wild that you don't ever you never see it so I think that also another power of this movie is I'm it's so lucky that they didn't remake it and I don't know what the other ones are like but the

power in this movie is that it feels real. It feels like these are two real people living through this and actually reacting to ways. I mean, I don't fully buy the way the guy reacts every time, but most of the reactions

you do believe and you can rationalize is like, maybe you would react that way. And that's a huge flaw in horror movies all the time is you're like this isn't just don't do that just don't walk into the basement right now they're young right they're in their like mid-20s so it also is like i sort of even though yeah it's like who fucking acts that way if he's like 23 i am sort of like yeah they feel like 23 year olds act that way 23 year old dudes they're not playing like major adults you know like they're meant to be kind of like

and even and that's why I think it succeeds so well like I was saying like the house is sort of like decorated a little stupid you know what I mean like her car is dumb they dress bad they feel kind of like just like they're just kind of like haven't figured it out yet just like some sandy area dudes

that's like the best part of the movie though it's truly I think the power of the film that accelerates it in such a way that if they remade it and like it was beautiful to me them not looking like classic actors

I think makes or breaks it 100% in my imagination I have not seen this film little schlumpy boxers and tank tops at night. She's beautiful and she's gorgeous, but she's just not like what Hollywood would cast in that role and what they end up doing in the later ones. And I think it just makes the movie.

You immediately believe you're in their house. Yeah, some lame San Diego couple and you're just watching them. With you're like in their house some like lame San Diego couple had and you're just watching them super car and their bad house dumb clothes I'm amazed at how scary it was to hear about this move like scary to

sit in my home with all the lights on and hear it described was fucking so scary I think it was the scariest one so far oh my god this one's for me so good it will be one I think that people look back on in the way that

like we were here this is 12 years later now and I watched it for the first time and I watched it during the day and I was terrified it's scary as hell and it makes you afraid of every noise in your house ever, which all houses make some amount of noise. And so I was like, and I have two cats

always making noise. And so I was like, in the daytime, like, what the fuck is that noise? What is that? What is that? And like anything that happens. I hate that feeling so much. I'm a big fan of like, I don't need a lot of like lore

and a lot of like well demons, the thing with demons is they'll attach themselves to you but in order, and I think a thing I really like about this in the first one is the simplicity of it. It's like demon attached to you. It just fucking happened to you. Sucks for you, man. And that's it.

And that's like the whole logic. The logic is like it's not about like why or what she did or what is the like great historical archaic history of it it's just like sucks he's back wow okay so what will haunt us the most from this retelling emily for you what is gonna haunt you oh my god well i mean i really screamed watching the trailer scene. They're like under the sheets. Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

I'm often scared. That really scared me. I think her standing by the bed the first time and then like going outside like the who coming up behind someone and being like, what's up? And then being like in and that's like very, very freaky. It was all so scary. God, it was scary.

I don't think I ever told you guys this, but I had a really scary thing happen in our apartment one time, actually, where in the middle of the night, I like heard something and I was like, what is that noise? Like it sounded like wind and rustling or what is that noise like it sounded like wind and rustling or whatever so i like got up and i went into our living room and our front door was wide

open oh no and i think we just hadn't closed it all the way and it just like literally blew open in the middle of the night and i was just like standing. And also I wear contacts. I'm very, very blind, like very blind. I have a negative six contacts. That's high. And it's really. And so I was like blind in our living room with the door wide open like at 3 a.m. Like Tim.

I would have been like, I hear something. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. hear something Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim

Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim Tim And obviously Tim is like

Not gonna be able to help If there's a ghost in the house No But since then We are religious About locking it Like every night Before bed

I like to lock it Bolt I feel like we have to know She'll be silent But Jenna What's gonna What'll haunt you We can tell it

Tell it to your face. Everything. Jenna was so visibly disturbed. Oh, the sheet moving. If you haven't, look, listeners. If you haven't seen the trailer. Oh, God. It's very, very, very scary.

A lot of us live alone here in this room. A lot of the people in this room are going back to empty houses. And so it's just like this is my thing. This is why ghosts and demons are my number one scariest thing is I cannot rationalize it away. Right. Except for

the fact that they're not real. Henley, do not go to a demon in my house. Henley, take it back. You dare. Don't be the boyfriend. Don't do this to us. You don't know. Okay,'t know You definitely don't know I respect you, ghosts and demons, if you are living in this house Thank you, thank you very much

I respect you and I, you know, hope you're doing okay I think this pretty much I mean, it goes without saying for me, I will not see this movie Will you see this movie? Have there been movies that you've gone and seen? No, but there have been movies That she seriously considered I was so curious, like, do you see this movie? Have there been movies that you've gone and seen? No. She seriously considered it. I was so curious. Do you go watch it?

No. But there have been movies that I've been more open to. Oh, I see. Okay. I still think someday I'll see It Chapter 2. But that's the only one that's on my list of movies. Kenley loved Event Horizon. God, what an insane one. That's the thing. I feel I was so scared by this. But as you know, Event Horizon took my life force.

Took all, it zapped me of everything I had. I don't know why I reacted the way I did to Event Horizon because I think I would hate the movie so much. Event Horizon is one where it chops everybody at the beginning on the top of the deck, right? Is it on a boat? It's on a spaceship. It's in space.

Oh, I'm thinking of another one. Sounds like a one I don't want to see. It's insane. It chops everybody on the deck? What is it? Right in the beginning? I'll find it. It's from the late 90s or 2000s. I thought it was Event Horizon.

I'll find the name of it. But it's literally the craziest start to a scary movie ever. And it's literally... It's a sunken ship. It sounds similar to Event of it but it's literally the craziest start to a scary movie ever and it's literally it's a sunken ship it sounds similar to about horizon only it's a boat and being sliced if you guys know this boat slice movie let us know where are my vessel heads at

give us this boat maybe it was ghost ship I think maybe it's called Ghost Ship. But the first scene, oh yeah, it was like Julian and Margalise and a bunch of really fun actors. Damn, okay. Well, if anyone's seen Ghost Ship and wants to tell us about it. The first scene is unbelievable. It's literally just like a hundred people getting like

bing bing bing bing. And they all just like, literally like that thing where their top halves slide off their bottom halves and they're all in the dance floor and it's like crazy. where like their top halves slide off their bottom halves and they're all on the dance floor and it's like crazy someone's gotta come on and talk about ghost ship

that'll be our next movie it's really good I mean I had a blast I really did I really had a blast at first I started getting really nervous we were recording this at night and I was like oh no I have to go to sleep soon but I think it'll be okay thanks for having me guys oh my god thank you

so much you are the best so far award winner for scariest I'm so flattered I'm so flattered thank you um I like doing this anytime um all right well it's your catchphrase time it's my catchphrase time it's the best possible ending

to any show and it is goodbye hi guys this is Jenna and I am breaking my silence to say thank you so much for listening to this really scary episode of Too Scary Didn't Watch

this is my personal scariest movie and facing it has inspired me to face my other great fear of speaking on this podcast. In October, we will have a full month of extra spooky episodes, so stay tuned and remember to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. We'd also love it if you could rate us and write us a real nice review, um, because we love to chart and, um, also follow us on social media at TSDW podcast. Um, that's all I got. You probably won't hear from me again, but this was really fun. Bye.