Too Scary; Didn't Watch - PERFECT BLUE

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

We love celebrities as much as the next person but we simply MUST respect their personal space!! This week we are recapping Satoshi Kon's animated horror-thriller Perfect Blue. We can see why... Darren Aronofsky was inspired!Perfect Blue is streaming on Shudder.TrailerMovie stats @ 15:40Recap begins @ 23:56Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. We are missing Henley today, missing her dearly. Oh, it's devastating. If you can believe it, some people are sick in her household.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Man, we were talking about this yesterday. I just really can't believe how often somebody is sick in her household. And I guess it's that it's winter and it's cold there and they have two young kids. I think this winter season has been particularly bad across the board. Yeah, a lot of people are sick. A lot of people are sick. But yeah, I think when you have two kids just multiply that by two sickness just feels like it disproportionately affects henley's household specifically and i don't like
Starting point is 00:01:13 it it's not fair and it's not right and i don't support it me neither me neither this is bullshit it's absolute fucking bullshit who can i complain to Where do I take this God You have a shepherd of the lord in that house So what the fuck It's just It's not right and I'm sad and we miss Henley And we hope that they all get to be 100% well
Starting point is 00:01:41 So soon And never get sick ever again That's right Fingers crossed fingers crossed. Oh, there's bunk meowing again. He's been doing that lately. Also, my neighbors are having a party right now. So if there's any background noise, I apologize. Yeah. One of my neighbors has been doing a thing that they do sometimes, which is play music in a way that I consider to be antagonistic. Like I do think that there's
Starting point is 00:02:05 like a neighbor they're they're like mad at. And every now and again, I don't know who they are because sound is super weird where our exact house is located. It's usually very late at night, but sometimes like today it's a Sunday morning where it's like aggressively loud music and like changing the song like too much, you know, in a way that I'm like, this is an act of aggression. Yeah. And so that's been happening, but maybe they're done now. Remember that phase where my neighbor just listened to the same like five songs from musicals over and over? It was like Chicago, Moulin Rouge, Rocky Horror Picture Show, and maybe Moana, which don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Love all those movies. Yeah, I mean, but. But just over and over and over and over. It was crazy. Anyways. Anyway, maybe there's sounds in the background. Maybe there's not. You be the judge.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I am very excited to talk about today's movie. We're doing our first animated horror movie today. Wow. And it's really fucking good and if you want to jump straight to that there's some time stamps in the episode description for you because before we get into the recap i gotta know if anything scary happened to you this week emily you know what honestly not really but am going to say a lot of people reached out about people who have been rude to them about their hair. And wow, so many people are so rude about people's hair. It's fascinating. It's madness. It's madness. The stories I have heard, fuck people who are rude to people, strangers, friends, anybody, you just can't do it. And to all of you who it has happened to, I am sorry. Yeah. And I am with you.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I stand with you. I stand with you. And it's just simply unacceptable and we won't accept it. We won't accept it. i also want to say that we did get a lot of emails from beekeepers and i wanted to say thank you for those as well thank you beekeepers yes and someone said you can wash a bee and so i'm pretty confused because oh wow i looked up how to do it and i couldn't find it but you know okay do your own do your own research but thank you to all the beekeepers out there for for your kind words thank you beekeepers um but i mean no it's been i mean i'll i'll say that all i'm thinking about is in the times that i'm not at work is like wedding stuff and it's just so crazy planning a wedding is just madness especially even if you're doing it like really small it's just like there's so many little fucking things
Starting point is 00:04:46 You have to do and all of it's expensive And it's just wild I'm so thrilled to be doing it We don't like there's a thing It's like it's totally optional Nobody has to get married nobody has to have a wedding So we're choosing to do this We've brought it upon ourselves and it will be wonderful
Starting point is 00:05:01 And I'm very excited and also It's a lot of work So that's kind of all that I'm it upon ourselves and it will be wonderful and i'm very excited and also it's my brain is just like it's a lot of work so that's kind of all that i'm doing and thinking about which i suppose is scary but one just little moment that happened this week that was kind of scary for us is joel and i were sitting on the couch watching tv as we do every evening and we hear the unmistakable sounds of a cat or an animal puking. Oh boy. And we're like, okay, here we go. Who is it? And we look around us and we see one,
Starting point is 00:05:33 two, three, four cats in the room with us with nobody's puking. Mouths closed. Mouths closed. Not a bit, not a bout of nausea in sight. And then Theo runs over to the window And starts looking out the window and we're like
Starting point is 00:05:48 Some fucking creature Came into our yard to puke Did you get a look at the Culprit I didn't I couldn't bring myself to get up But it's a comfy couch It's really comfortable But it just was so like
Starting point is 00:06:04 We're so primed to be like, to know those sounds. And the fact that it was coming from outside the house. The calls coming from outside the house. The calls coming from outside the house, which is just not what you expect. It's not what you expect. And as much as I don't want the call to be coming from inside the house, I also don't want the call to be coming from outside the house. No, we're not taking calls right now. The line
Starting point is 00:06:28 is closed. I don't think it was convict because we lock our little gate because when she comes up to our door, our cats get really frantic and I just don't think she's like of a body to jump over the fence these days. So I don't
Starting point is 00:06:43 think it was convvict Joel was like I bet it's a skunk which I just think is So funny like why would it be a skunk I've never pictured a skunk throwing up But I presume they do Yeah so like we get skunks In our yard we get possums in our yard And he was like it's probably a skunk or a possum
Starting point is 00:07:00 Which is pretty funny to think about And I guess we'll never know but Pretty surprising You gotta get an outdoor camera now awesome which is pretty funny to think about and i guess we'll never know but pretty surprising you got to get an outdoor camera now if this i do i gotta say i love your indoor cameras and i wouldn't mind get i get why people like freaking camera their whole place and it's not i don't it's not for protection it's because i want to be able to know what's going on yeah everywhere all the time with everyone i want to see what my cats are up to at every moment oh yeah it's my favorite show yeah it's oh my favorite show's on my favorite show's on it's a new episode there it's a lot like last episode but it is technically new when when we were at
Starting point is 00:07:44 madonna inn over new year's one morning in bed with joel and i're both up and we're on our phones and and i'm watching the cats and i look over at him and he is watching the cats and we're just like simultaneously looking at what our cats are doing while we're on vacation yep that sounds about right it's a real treat um well sammy did anything scary happen to you this week? You know, similarly, I mean, I guess not similarly to a wedding, but my brain has been pretty occupied by one thing, which is watching movies. I, as you know, make my top 10 list every year. And because the Oscar nominations just came out, I've just been like focused on movie watching, movie watching, movie watching. I've just been like focused on movie watching, movie watching, movie watching.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So I similarly just had one scary event happen, which is that I got a little too high again. Oh, no. I hate that feeling. Not quite as high as, you know, 25 milligrams. I had 10 milligrams and it was it was a little much. 10 is a lot. Yeah. And they're sleepy time gummies and it's 10 is one serving. Yeah. And they're sleepy time gummies and it's 10 is one serving asleep. I basically can hear anything I want to
Starting point is 00:09:08 hear if I'm too high. Now that's interesting. And so like someone can hear anything I want to hear. I guess with the asterisk that there has to be a noise that I can translate to be anything, I guess is more what I'm saying. Like someone walking outside could be like gunshots. Oh, no. And so I had a moment where my upstairs neighbor, I'm laying in bed, I'm trying to fall asleep. I'm too high to sleep, but I'm trying my hardest. Feels counter to the sleep gummies, but I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I mean, that's what happened. So I'm doing half doses now. But anyway, so my upstairs neighbor got out of bed and I hear basically, I can hear when he's snoring, like I can hear every move he makes. Yeah. And he got out of bed and it was kind of loud and i perceived it as the whole apartment shaking and i thought it was the hugest earthquake that ever happened and i had a moment of like true terror where it feels like all the blood drains out of your whole body oh my god yeah oh yeah and i was Oh my God. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I was just like, I'm about to die and I couldn't move. And I was
Starting point is 00:10:27 so scared and it only lasted probably a couple seconds, but, and then I was like, oh no, my neighbor is just getting out of bed. But I was so scared. You know, I'm scared of earthquakes. I spend a disproportionate amount of time thinking about earthquakes. There was, there was an earthquake the other day did you feel it i didn't feel it but i did see that there was one yeah i it was fine it was a small one but yeah i'm very scared it was a four four something it's just not nothing yeah i mean i felt it yeah but nothing fell over or anything. Everything's fine. Yeah. So that was kind of scary. But it was a false alarm.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Thank God. It's so crazy. I'm trying to think of the last time that happened to me where you like in an instant you think something is or like that feeling of like immediate intense fear that then is like then you're like, oh, I'm OK. Like like you think like I feel like I turn around. You think you see someone in your house or something and you're like oh i'm okay like like you think like i feel like i like turn around you think you see someone in your house or something and you're like like and like and then it's and then it's fine but it's fear is crazy yeah well the thing that was a little disturbing
Starting point is 00:11:33 about it was that i i feel like it fully immobilized me which is like you know fight or flight or freeze and i'm i know that i'm a freezer. I know that about myself. Okay. I feel like when people, like fight or flight or freeze, right? I feel like of those three options, everybody thinks, okay, fight's the best one, right?
Starting point is 00:11:56 You'd want to fight. But imagine if your immediate response to fear, even those little ones that aren't real, was fight. Like that seems bad, you you know you get scared and you your immediate bodily response is to like fight whatever's happening let's calm down like let's assess the situation what would i have done if my response was fight in that in this particular situation jump out of bed and start like get into get a weapon probably i should have a weapon by my bed
Starting point is 00:12:26 i'm surprised i don't given the nature of our podcast where do you think your closest weapon is um the kitchen yeah i think about a knife in the kitchen but i've been considering buying a fire poker without a fireplace but i'm just like it's like a perfect weapon and if i had i think you should have one next to my bed i would sleep so well i already sleep pretty well do you ever sometimes i worry that i don't sleepwalk but sometimes my my brain does this thing where like if right before i go to bed i notice that like oh the knife is on the knife block you know like the knife is out right i i get worried that in the
Starting point is 00:13:06 back of my mind in the middle of the night i'm gonna wake up and grab that knife right that i'm like i've seen the knife right before falling asleep therefore i am going to grab it and do harm yeah i've never thought about that but that makes a lot of sense because of like dreams my dreams i don't want to know where the knife is before I go to sleep And like how do I wipe it from my brain My dreams have been very much like Related to the last thing I did before bed Lately usually my dreams are pretty random But lately they've been
Starting point is 00:13:34 Exactly the last thing I did So if I I don't like to look at a knife I know I don't like If I see it I go like It's okay don't worry about the knife You don't know where the knife is like, it's fine. It's fine. Even though, like, I do know where all the knives are in my house because I live here.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So, like, what's the difference? Oh, boy. Last night, Sammy, I had a dream that we were seeing Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part two. And we had they changed the name of, by the way. What? Or did I dream that? they changed the name of by the way what or did i dream that i feel like it feels weird to change the name of a part two because it's like we already did it yeah it's now untitled mission impossible film what that's doesn't make any sense to me because they think part one hurt the box office okay but it's part two so people want to do what i mean it's like it's really no matter what it's not going to be part one because we're not going to make any sense if there's no part two and and part one
Starting point is 00:14:39 was bad at the box office because it came out the same week as barbie and oppenheimer and because it also wasn't right as great as other mission impossibles i was gonna it's still great but you know they're they're renaming part one as well interesting well i just bought the blu-ray of part one even though it's already out and people have purchased it but yeah i think they are uh changing it to just dead reckoning i mean that mean, that makes sense, I suppose. Okay. Well, I had a dream we were watching the untitled Mission Impossible movie and had the worst seats in the theater and couldn't even see the whole screen and
Starting point is 00:15:12 all around us people were like getting up and moving around and it was like bright in there and I was so fucking pissed. God, I was mad. So it was a real relief to wake up and have that not be true I love that when you wake up from a bad dream and you're just like oh thank god thank god that's how I feel
Starting point is 00:15:30 every time I wake up from a teeth dream just like oh thank god oh thank god thank god um okay should we get into this week's movie we should this week we are going to be talking about Perfect Blue. Came out in 1997. Like I said, this is an animated horror film. I guess it's more of a thriller than horror. But there's some horrific stuff happening in here. This has been recommended a lot. People love this movie. I loved this movie.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This was my first time seeing it. It's fucking great uh it was directed by satoshi kan written by saruyuki murai based on a novel by yoshikazu takeuchi starring junko ua rika matsumoto and shinpachi tsuji. I think I said all of that exactly in the native pronunciations. I think your accent was exactly perfect. Thank you. And it's streaming on Shudder.com. Dot com.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I this is exciting. I've never heard of this movie. Joel asked me today what movie we're doing. And I said, blue something. And he was like, that doesn't help me because that's all I remembered from what you told me. And I did not know that it was an animated horror. It's interesting to think about someone drawing horror. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I don't think there's a lot of animated horror. Actually, I would love to hear recommendations. The only other one I know is Mad God, which is stop motion. Very interesting. And yeah, you just don't see a lot of animated horror. You can draw anything if you know how to draw. I guess it's because, you know, animation is generally associated with children. Yes, correct.
Starting point is 00:17:20 So blending it with horror is kind of an unexpected combination, but it works. I think of animation as either being for children or being for creeps. There's like children's animation and then there's like nasty, freaky, weird animation. So I guess this falls in the category of being for freaks. Yep. And that's me, baby. I loved it. I do wish that animation does have, I feel like, a bigger barrier to entry.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It just people have in their minds exactly what we're talking about. Like, and I have them as well. I'm like, oh, I don't want to watch an animated movie because I just have an idea of like what that's going to be like. I just picture like a dude drawing girls with huge tits. Like that's all I can think about. Which I know isn't fair. I mean, other people draw, but they're really cornering the market in terms of what it seems like adult cartoons are. Yeah. And you know, I'm not going to lie. There are some, some tits in this,
Starting point is 00:18:28 this movie. Okay. So case in point, but this movie has an 83% on Rotten Tomatoes, 67 on Metacritic. I was surprised by that. And an eight on IMDb. That's like essentially a 200% on IMDb. That's like essentially 200% on IMDb.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, that's like the highest rated movie on IMDb ever, I think. The budget was 90 million yen or 830,000 US dollars. And I couldn't really find how much it made. It says it made 768,000 in the US and UK releases. And I mean, I would assume that it's released in Japan as well. and I don't know how much money it made uh worldwide because yeah this is Japanese film I guess I didn't say that um but it was originally conceived as a live action film but some financers pulled out last minute so they changed it that's pretty fucking cool to be like fine we'll we're still we're still doing it yeah yeah um madonna used selections from this film as a backdrop animation during a dance interlude
Starting point is 00:19:33 on her drowned world tour whoa uh this movie has a lot of similarities to Black Swan, another episode that just you and I did. Whoa. And a lot of people give Darren Aronofsky shit for copying this movie. There was actually a rumor that he had purchased the rights to Perfect Blue. And as far as I can tell, that is not true. He just took a lot of the same stuff and did it. And I love Black Swan, so I'm not necessarily mad about it. But if you like Black Swan, watch Perfect Blue.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Wow. Also in Requiem for a Dream, there is like a literal shot for shot recreation of one of the scenes in this movie. Whoa. It's a great shot. So I get why he did it. It's just very funny to be like, I'm going to also do that. That thing that I like, I'm going to do it exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I liked that. I'm going to do it. It's mine now. I take it. And then I was just trying to figure out why it's called Perfect Blue. And I guess in Japanese culture, blue represents purity and cleanliness.
Starting point is 00:20:43 So that's going to factor into some of the themes. Okay. Of this film. Okay, I will say, you might already know this. I've been very, very averse to watching anything drawn in an anime-like style since middle school, an anime like style since middle school where i was at a sleepover party of one of my friends from ballet who so i didn't know her other friends it was like her friends from school and so it's her birthday we're having a sleepover party and they all were really into this anime show and i don't know what it's called but they were all really really into this anime show
Starting point is 00:21:22 and made we had to watch it like all night like all we did was watch this anime and it was like really freaky there was like it was like like creepy like there was like it was like bloody and there was like one part where like wings like pop out of someone's back and it's like nasty and there it was just like i hated it I hated it so much and I felt so Trapped and I was like I don't know These girls I can't like say like I don't like this And I was like 12 so you have to Be cool
Starting point is 00:21:53 12 is a tough age for Oh my god Standing up for yourself in front of girls you don't know In my memory we watched that show for Like 12 straight hours like I feel like And I remember just being like in a dark house with strangers. It's like your personal torture room. The worst thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And so truly ever since I can't, and I know it's not the same. You guys have gotten on me about this. Joel's gotten on me about this. Like Miyazaki, I can't really watch because it like, I like, I'm like traumatized. Yeah. But maybe, maybe. Miyazaki movies have some dark stuff in them so I know I so I need to I would like to grow past it I don't want to be limited but that is a hurdle for me yeah I'm not
Starting point is 00:22:36 super versed well versed in this genre but maybe we could ask for some recommendations for some nice starter anime yes okay and if anybody i haven't i would love to know if anybody knows what this anime was i don't know what it and all the only descriptors i can give you are that it was horny and it was like school girls like literally in school and at one point some wings burst out of somebody's skin and it's like bloody and gross and the year was that I was watching it was probably 2002. Do you think
Starting point is 00:23:14 it was Sailor Moon? I don't remember any wings. I don't think it was Sailor Moon. That's the only one that I feel like I remember at around that time. And my friend was Japanese so I feel like maybe it was like a mainstream one on American television And my friend was Japanese So I feel like maybe it was like It wasn't a mainstream
Starting point is 00:23:27 One on American Televisions So guys if you know if anybody knows And can help me process this Please tell me what it is That's all I got for you So if you know if that's enough for you to know Let me know
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah well I don't think this movie is gonna Rede's enough for you to know let me know yeah well i don't think this movie's gonna redeem it for me feel better for you okay well i guess time will tell yep but let's let's freaking get into it let's do it let's do it in the past few years i have hit a point where i only want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable it happened happened. It happened to me. But you know what? I still also want to look cute. And these are two desires that are often extremely opposing. And I don't want to have to sacrifice. I want both. I want comfort. And I want to feel cute and confident. And guess what? Skims has freaking done it again with their soft lounge collection. I am currently very, very obsessed with, I have the
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Starting point is 00:28:54 Mm-hmm. Comic-Con, maybe you're familiar, a convention that we performed at. Yeah, I've been, yeah. Been invited. Yeah, yeah. And next on the stage is a J-pop group named Cham. And they go on. The crowd's going wild. Clear that they're very popular. There's people in the crowd selling weird, very specific memorabilia about them. People are big fans.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And these songs are bangersers so we can see why very fun and they're wearing like cute little tutus right yeah they're in almost ballerina costumes three of them three singers and already this opening is intercut with moments of our main character mima on the train and grocery shopping. And it's having these little matching actions. So she'll be snapping on the train and then it cuts back to on the stage of her snapping while she's dancing. And it's just a little disorienting right off the bat. It cuts to her agent and manager arguing about her becoming an actress so we find out that this is going to be her last performance and that she is switching gears and trying her
Starting point is 00:30:16 hand at acting uh back to the show they're dancing on stage we see a creepy guy in the front row that's holding his hand and making it appear from his point of view that he's holding mima in her in his hand and he's just a creepy looking guy he's got these very gray eyes that sometimes the animation like he doesn't even have pupils you know it just is like a very scary look he was reminding me of I don't know if you've seen this movie, but Ben Foster's character in the movie Hostage with Bruce Willis. I haven't seen it. That's a reference for some of you out there to be able to picture what this guy looks like. He's got like long, ratty hair covering one of his eyes always. And it's just kind of big and hunched over and obsessed
Starting point is 00:31:06 with cham and there's some rowdy fans and this guy his name he goes by me mania and he sees other fans being noisy during while cham is trying to give the announcement that this is Mima's last show. Mimania takes it upon himself to attack these guys to be like, shut up. Like our queens are speaking essentially. Oh my God. Quiets them down. And then they announced that she's leaving and he looks absolutely devastated. Cut to Mima arriving home and her into her cute little apartment love her apartment she's got a fish tank with some fish in it she feeds them her fish food did you ever have fish um i did we had a betta fish you remember when everyone had betta fish yes i had i had them as well
Starting point is 00:32:03 yeah we had them and I feel like everyone had them in those, in like a vase with a, there was like a plant on top. Did you have that? Okay, well that immediately refutes my fear that everyone had them. Sounds cool. But I'll try to find a picture
Starting point is 00:32:20 for you. But yes, no, we had, my sister had a goldfish for a while. She went on a carnival that lived for like eight years. But then we also had some, a series of, of betta fish. Yeah. I had betta fish and goldfish as well. And the most recent one, actually Jenna and I had a goldfish together. We got one and we named it Jasper after Twilight because he could make us, he could alter our moods and make us happy from bad moods and that's very special and i don't know i like got i get too attached to them which i guess is with all pets but i had to i was just like they died too frequently or i killed a goldfish once when i chained it changed
Starting point is 00:33:01 the water you know there can be very particular about changing that water. And I like cried for two days and was like, I can't get fish anymore because it's like I let this fish down. It's my fault that it's dead. That's really tough. Yeah, it's crazy. Like you
Starting point is 00:33:20 would think a fish is really really low maintenance and it is, but it also makes sense that like it's a living creature with specific needs and there are some pretty easy ways to fuck it up yeah there really are and so i was jealous of her apartment and her fish tank because i just don't think i can own fish anymore. But I really like fish. Yeah, maybe someday, Sandy. Maybe someday.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So, and I just noted this. This is inconsequential. But she's listening to the radio. And they're talking about a report about an earthquake. And just. Oh, no. Got me thinking about earthquakes. No earthquakes ever factor into this.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Okay. Ever again, no. Got me thinking about earthquakes. No earthquakes ever factor into this ever again, though. She's reading some fan mail that she has brought home with her. And most of them are, you know, very nice. Like, love you so much, blah, blah, blah. Then she opens one that says, simply, I always like looking into Mima's room. I put up a link to Mima's room. Ah!
Starting point is 00:34:26 And she doesn't, she's very confused by it, doesn't know what it means. Her mom calls her, she's talking to her mom about her career change, and then a call comes on the other line, and she answers it, and it's just someone breathing into the phone. Oh, God. Oh, God. it and it's just someone breathing into the phone oh god oh god and i gotta say someone did this to me when i was in high school and my mom answered it was a prank it was a prank call i know who it was oh my god and we know who you are we know who you are and he called in at like late it was like midnight and my mom answered and he just breathed into the phone.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And my mom was so scared, obviously. And I think I was still, I don't think it woke me up. So the next morning it was like, Oh, I know who that was. Like,
Starting point is 00:35:15 I'm sorry. And she was like, Oh, thank God. But it's really scary. Awful. That actually reminds me that something scary did happen to me this week, which is that we were staying in this Airbnb in Topanga with our friends Marty and Kim.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And we love this Airbnb. We've stayed there before. And there is a weird little creepy attic room, not attic room, but like a little loft room with two little nasty twin beds. It's like really gross. I hate that. I mean, we don't stay up there. It's just really creepy. And one night it's late and we've all been hanging out and
Starting point is 00:35:45 having a great time and drinking and having fun it's time to go to bed and we and joel is nowhere to be found and i knew he was pranking us but also a little part of me was like did joel die you know like i always am like right i can't do those things because my brain goes to like no like the we're gonna think it's a prank but it's real i think it's from listening to so many horror movies yeah yeah where i'm like no no this is for real and like things are We're gonna think It's a prank But it's real I think it's from Listening to so many Horror movies Yeah yeah Where I'm like No no no
Starting point is 00:36:06 This is for real And like Things are bad And we think it's a joke And it's not a joke Right And he was hiding Upstairs behind the door
Starting point is 00:36:14 In that creepy Little fucking room For like 15 minutes Oh my god And no one No one wanted to go up there And find him And Marty was brave
Starting point is 00:36:22 And Marty went up there And found him And it was really upsetting And I was really unhappy it was a mean prank i don't like joel what are you freaking doing what are you freaking doing he was giggling he was having a timeless life oh nasty little prank that was nasty joel it's a nasty thing you did. Joel, that was really nasty what you did. So, okay. She's got a nasty guy breathing in the phone to her. Then a fax comes in to, you know. 1997.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yep. Place us in time. And it just says, traitor, traitor, traitor, traitor. Which, if you're not watching the traitors on peacock you should be um so now she's freaked out and she looks out her open window and closes the curtains and it's like feels like someone is watching her now and then we just hear her saying who are you who are you who are you who are you and we see that she is on set for the first gig she is booked as an actress. And her one line is, who are you?
Starting point is 00:37:32 She's like practicing her line. And she is going to be on a show called Double Bind, which is like a detective, like SVU type show. She's playing the sister of a murder victim. She's sitting off camera with her manager, Rumi, asking her about the fan mail that she got about like, I put up a link to Mima's room. She's like asking her, what does this mean? Rumi tells her it's a it's the internet it's an internet link and it was really jarring to see
Starting point is 00:38:12 them in a world where the internet is so fresh which we were alive for that time i remember that time but for some reason it just really caught me off guard and so she's telling her that it's like it's the internet it's that new thing the internet and mima's like oh okay like is that something i should worry about she says no just whatever just don't think about it person before the internet must have been great yeah i think there's probably a lot of benefit to that. Being a famous person would be so awful, especially in the age of the Internet. Oh, my God, it'd be so scary. Yeah, I mean, you know, speaking of stalkers and stuff, I feel like recently someone went into Keanu Reeves's house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Someone went into Keanu Reeves' house Yeah And there's stalkers that just like Go into famous people's houses and just like Take baths and shit Like can you imagine? It's so fucking scary It's really not right Like I find myself to be
Starting point is 00:39:18 Interested in and obsessed With certain celebrities more than I know Is like normal Same But I would never go into their house and take a bath do you know what I mean like like and that's that's just like me and my own obsession and then there's like so many more people who will go do that yeah and that is it's very terrifying very terrifying like I what I'll do is I'll sit and dissect a two
Starting point is 00:39:43 second video clip to try to read lips which I did that recently I tried to read red lips on the Selena no I on the the other one the Timotei and Kylie I was like I want the whole conversation you know obviously we can we everybody saw the I love you I love you but um I wanted the whole conversation. But I'm not going to go into their houses. No, we do have some amount of boundaries. I won't comment on any of their social media. No, I will not. I don't want to actually interact with them at all
Starting point is 00:40:16 unless they initiate it. And I'm over here waiting. I'm over here waiting for them to initiate contact with me. That I would be okay with. That I'd be okay with. That I'd be okay with. So if any of them are wondering, they can approach me and I will allow it. Timotei? Timotei, I'm over here waiting.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So she kind of brushes off the link to Mima's room for now. And she's getting ready to go deliver her line and we see they're filming a scene before and the two main actors it's a a woman and a man that are partner detectives and they're you know before they start rolling they're laughing and joking and then they say action and the woman her name is ari it starts going into like do you know why the killer peels all the skin off of his victims and it's just a funny little like transition yeah yeah uh and they're they're filming like the scene before or whatever and then we see that Mima's manager and agent are trying to convince the writer to make her part bigger. Because I guess the season is ongoing.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It's not finished being written yet. And so they're just trying to be like, she's like a pop idol. You should use her more. And the writer's kind of saying like a pop idol. That's kind of weird, though, isn't it? And they're like, no, like she's going to get fans for the show. They're trying to convince them to try to make her part bigger. This reminded me of the idol because Jenny from Blackpink was on the idol.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Hmm. It's a common transition. Yeah. They're performers. They're both performers. Lady Gaga. Ever heard of her? Ever heard of her? Yeah. Yeah. They're performers. They're both performers. Lady Gaga. Ever heard of her? Ever heard of her?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. And the list ends there. Don't ask me to name another one. She's the only one who's done it as far as I'm concerned. Britney Spears. Hello, Crossroads. Hello, Crossroads. And the list ends there.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And the list ends there. Someone comes in and brings fan mail to Aerie and the other guy in the show. And the one on top is addressed to Mima. So they grab it and say, oh, wait, this one's not for you. Now Mima's about to go. Her scene is up and she's looking at the bright lights shining on her. She has this moment of, she seems like really nervous and there's so many people around her. We're getting the sense of her feeling really overwhelmed, the lights and the people and how that compares to her being on stage in front of people. And she's kind of remembering that and having just this like moment,
Starting point is 00:43:03 stage in front of people and she's kind of remembering that and having just this like moment disorienting moment where she sees me mania in the crowd of people in the show like on set on set and turns again and he's gone and isn't sure if it's real and uh they call action and then she's about to give her line when there's an explosion everyone stops turns and looks and the letter addressed to her has exploded in her manager's hands he's or it's her agent and he is like knocked to the ground he survives but he's bleeding he is like knocked to the ground. He survives, but he's bleeding. He's like pretty badly injured. Oh, Jesus. And we cut to Mima back at home. And they're really like, don't seem too concerned about this letter exploding. Rumi is telling her, you know, it was just a prank.
Starting point is 00:44:07 That is not a prank! A prank is hiding in the twin bedroom we know what a prank is and we don't like it even it's not even that prank went a little too far a little too far and nobody wanted it and yeah this is more than a prank but they're really downplaying it. Mima has bought a computer and Rumi is showing her how to use the Internet. And she says, like, this is where you type in the Internet address. Then Rumi goes home and Mima's home alone. And she types in the address that's on the fan mail because there was a link to Mima's room and it's a blog type of thing and she reads one of the entries and says this morning when I got off the train right foot first I always go right foot first I make a point of it she kind of laughs and she's like oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:45:01 someone knows me so well and continues reading. And there it says, you know, today was my 21st birthday. They threw me a party on my way home. I stopped at the grocery store and bought milk, this brand of milk. I always get this brand of milk and, of course, food for my fish. And now she's getting like very creeped out and goes, continues to read May 12th. I was impressed with Eri Ochai's performance in Double Bind. She turns into another person when the camera is rolling.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And it's just all extremely specific details that only someone that was there would know. And she's officially very scared. And then there's an audio clip play that you can click on on the site and she clicks it. I think, I think this is what it is. She's listening to a clip on the website. That's just her saying, who are you? Who are you? Who are you practicing her line? So her manager's name is Rumi. Her agent's name is Tadakoro. And we cut to them watching the episode and Mima only has, you know, her one line, three shots total, and it's very fast. And so they're feeling frustrated like they really need to get her more lines roomie's kind of saying she's a pop idol they should like want her more
Starting point is 00:46:34 and tatakoro says things are different from when you were a pop idol roomie and she like sighs and she's like, I know Rumi is like in her 40s or 50s. And she looks bummed. And this is the same. They're working in the same office as Cham because they're also Cham's agents and managers. And so Cham is in there like thriving. And we see Rumi looking bummed about it. We see Mima coming to the office. And as she's about to get off the train with her right foot first, she freezes and panics. And until people shove past her and knock her out of the train.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And she runs out of the train station having a panic attack. And has to steady herself on the side of the road. And she's really freaking out. And there are some fans that approach her and ask her for a photo. And she just like continues past, past them. And they're saying, you know, do they always become so rude when they become actresses? And she has like something that was stood out to me is her complete lack of security
Starting point is 00:47:47 it's a different time i suppose but oh yeah so she makes it to the building and as she's getting on the elevator she sees me mania uh looking at her and as the elevator doors are closing he smiles this very creepy smile mima makes goes up to the office where rumi and tadakoro are and gets the news that cham has charted higher than ever damn and she's genuinely like really happy for them. But she does have a brief moment of imagining herself back in Cham and celebrating this with them. And then, you know, snaps back to reality and is just congratulating them really sincerely. They're being the members of Cham are totally nice. But one of the other managers somewhere is like, Cham is totally fine as a duo. It's like, okay, well, let's not say that while Mima's right here.
Starting point is 00:48:51 So, okay. So then we go back to the set of Double Bind and the writer says he has an idea for Mima's character. We see Rumi and Tadakoro talking about it it and it is a rape scene that they have added and rumi is extremely upset and says like of course we're not doing that this is insane and we're not doing that tadakoro says you, this is the opportunity to be in the show more. And after this, she'll become like more of a main character. Would be crazy to pass it up. Mima puts on a smile and is like, it's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Like, I'm happy to do it. And on the train ride home, she's leaning against the side of the train and her reflection turns and looks at her and is dressed as her as a pop star in the little like tutu and says i refuse i refuse If I refuse to do it, I won't do it. And it scares Mima, flashes back, and it's gone. And we cut to them gearing up to film this rape scene. It's awful, I feel like. I mean, obviously it's awful, but the animation doesn't make it that easy. No. And there's a lot of people on set for this
Starting point is 00:50:28 like we need to close this set down people there's not an intimacy coordinator in sight of course and it just shows them so it's it's in a strip club and it's her doing a dance at first and then all the men around get too rowdy and one like punches another one and climbs on stage and climbs on top of her oh god and while everyone all the other men are just like cheering around and so there's like so many people around and she's screaming and screaming and screaming and there is you know cut like reset take it again like take two take three and so it's just like you see it like over and over and over and the other actor the the rapist actor is like apologizing to her between takes and she's like smiling like it's okay like don't worry about it oh it's awful and
Starting point is 00:51:28 we see roomie watching on the screens and she starts crying and walks off set mima focuses on like the bright lights around her and once again flashes to herself on stage as a singer and is hearing the sounds of applause instead of the like men cheering and it's having this kind of dissociative experience and then it like cuts to her in the empty dressing room after so even though she's telling everybody it's fine it's fine it's clear that it's maybe affecting her she comes home and sees that her fish are dead oh god all of them this is exactly why this is no yeah we can't be doing this i can't be doing this stakes are too high. And this is what sets her off to like, finally, she's been had this brave face on smiling. Everything's fine, fine, fine. She sees that her fish are dead.
Starting point is 00:52:33 She starts sobbing. Then she starts screaming and smashing things, says, of course, I didn't want to do it, but I couldn't trouble the people that have gotten me this far. She's sobbing. trouble the people that have gotten me this far she's sobbing and then her reflection in the mirror turns to pop star mima saying i told you so and being kind of a bitch about it and mima throws the throws a pillow at the reflection and it turns back to her real reflection where we just see she's looking you know like she's just been sobbing for five minutes and so now we cut to me mania in his home at his desk which has photos of mima taped everywhere covering every surface it's just m Mima, Mima, Mima. And he's writing one of the entries of Mima's room.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And he's saying, you know, I didn't like doing that scene, but, or yeah, he's saying, I didn't like doing that scene today. Being a pop star is where I really belong. And so we're getting the sense that this blog is with the intention of having Mima return to pop stardom rather than being an actor, because we saw he was very upset that she left Cham. And we see Mima reading it back in her apartment after he posts it. And she's saying, you know, this isn't true. I didn't write this.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And pop star Mima comes up on the computer screen and like a little video tab saying, like, of course you didn't. I did. I'm the real Mima. You're a filthy woman now. And like nobody wants a woman with a tarnished reputation. And like you're disgusting i'm the real mima and you're an imposter and then pop star mima materializes into the room as kind of a ghostly apparition and is taunting her more and more just telling her like how filthy she is and then pop star ghost mima jumps off the balcony of mima's apartment and mima watches after her as she kind of flies floats down the street like
Starting point is 00:54:57 bouncing on lampposts so she can move like a little ghost yeah Then we cut to, we see the writer of Double Bind pulling into his parking garage, I think at his home. And there's blood smeared Double Bind on his parking spot. Like as if it's his marking his parking spot. He looks freaked out by this. What the fuck is that and he's hearing cham on and off they're like the song is coming from somewhere in the distance he's trying to figure it out but then he just like runs to the elevator to go inside and the
Starting point is 00:55:38 elevator doors open and the the boom box is in Blasting Cham cuts to inside the apartment building. The elevator doors open and we see the writer with his eyes gouged out. Blood sprayed everywhere in the elevator. He's dead. Oh, shit. Then we see Tadakoro and Rumi with Mima and they're kind of saying like let's not let's not worry about that yeah it's horrible but let's best not to think too much about it and again again really downplaying it Mima is obviously very haunted by this and she's seeing
Starting point is 00:56:21 visions of pop star Mima more and more she's seeing her on the street in cars driving by and she's seems like she's losing it a little bit and is really on edge we see that she has a photo shoot coming up and we see the other members of cham the other two women saying isn't that photographer kind of a creep and this is all intercut with her seeing images of ghost pop star mima and this photo shoot happening and her on stage as a pop star and her acting and we're seeing the photo shoot get more raunchy i guess the the photographer is basically saying like let let's try one, like take your top down, like over the shoulder, like slowly progressing it to be more of a nude
Starting point is 00:57:11 photo shoot. And it's also intercut with her doing interviews, basically doubling down on everything and being like, yeah, that scene was hard to film, but I just viewed it as a challenge for me as an actress. And I'm just really proud I get to do this job. And so this kind of montage is happening to for us to see that she's becoming this more sexualized person and she's trying to justify it to reporters and the media and stuff. But we know she's maybe not as thrilled about it as she's, she's making it seem. And then we get her in her apartment in her bath. This is the shot that was shot for shot recreated in Requiem for a Dream where she's
Starting point is 00:58:01 folded over in her bathtub. And it's, there's like an overhead shot of her back as she's folded over in her bathtub and it's there's like an overhead shot of her back as she's curled up in the bathtub and then underwater she screams it's a great shot the magazine with the photo shoot gets released i don't know if it's like playboy but there's naked photos of her that get released in a magazine and me mania sees them in the corner store or whatever and buys all of them he looks frantic like he he's seeing people looking at her and it's really upsetting him and so he goes to like all these different corner stores and buys up all of them and like you see in his apartment there's just stacks and stacks of these naked photos of her which he doesn't seem to like.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It's not like he wants to look at them. He doesn't want them in the world. Then we see Me Mania getting receiving an email that says, you believe me, right? That's not me. That's an imposter. Huh? He responds like, of course, I know that you would never do that. And the other person on the email says, what are we gonna do and me mania says i'll get rid of her um i wrote down here that the
Starting point is 00:59:15 music is great it's kind of nine inch nails type music you know i love nine inch nails as someone who doesn't like music but yeah it sounds like t Reznor did this score. So now we go to on set again, they're filming another scene because her part's bigger now. And we see her saying in character, I don't know who I am. I'm scared my other self will do something and so within the show her character is experiencing like a dissociative identity disorder and of course mirroring what is happening in her real life so there's a lot of scenes where it kind of cuts back and forth and you don't know if it's in the show or in real life. And one of the lines of dialogue in Double Bind, the woman is saying there's no way illusions can come to life, which is exactly what's happening in her actual life. And so she's looking really confused by this, like she's having a harder time telling what's real and what's not. And what's in the show and what's in real life.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And she looks out and she sees Me Mania in the crowd again, like behind some barriers. It's just like they're filming in the street. And so there's a crowd of onlookers. street and so there's a crowd of uh onlookers then she goes back into the building where the agent and manager are because cham is doing an on-air interview and she wants to go support them and as she gets there she sees pop star mima doing the interview with them and she's like seeing herself as if she's still part of cham and pop star Mima looks at her with this kind of devilish smile and Mima runs out of the room, gets scared and then sees pop star Mima bouncing around the halls of the building in this very floaty, creepy way. And she's chasing her and she's looking crazy to everybody around her as she's running through this building, bumping into people. She trips.
Starting point is 01:01:33 She falls down the stairs. Pop Star Mima is just bouncing around and she chases her out into the rain. It's raining outside. chases her out into the rain it's raining outside and she's chasing her through the streets when she runs into a street and we see the headlights of a truck approaching we see me mania driving the truck oh and the lights get closer and closer as she turns gets presumably hit by the car, cuts to white, and then she wakes up in her bed panting, like breathing heavily, like just sorry, what the fuck just happened? Rumi comes over and is making her tea. Mima is saying it's been a while since I've seen you, Rumi. Rumi, after the rape scene, has been around less, I guess, because she's so upset by this turn of events.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And Rumi says, you know, you seem a little on edge. Has someone been harassing you? Is it about that website? And she tells her to stop reading the website. And Mima says, but what if she's more real than than i am rumi says you know illusions can't come to life mima looks up like what and then here's cut and we're back on set. Oh, boy. In that same scene. And me mania is there again watching.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And we get take two. She's looking, doesn't know what's happening. There's, you know, the bright set lights shining at her. And then she wakes up in bed again. Rumi comes over making her tea. And she says, it's been a while since I've seen you, Rumi. Like, I'm glad you're here. Rumi says, what are you talking about? I was here yesterday.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And Mima says, that was real? Rumi's like, yeah. And Mima does not know what's going on. And as she's holding her teacup, she smashes it in her hands. She's gripping it so hard and her hands start pouring blood and she has no reaction to it at all she's just basically you know is this blood even real like am i alive and roomie you know runs to to help her and but she's not she's not in a good way mima's not doing well that night she's reading
Starting point is 01:04:06 the web the website in her dark apartment now just the glow of the computer as she's reading all mima's entries and then we see an episode the episode of double bind playing the detective saying you mean the murder is an illusion that she created, but illusions can't come to life or whatever. And they and they say maybe the illusion found something to possess. And so within the show, they're finding out that I think her character's name is Yoko in the show. So Yoko is like actually the killer in the show. And so she killed her own sister. It pulls back to show us that it's the,
Starting point is 01:04:49 the showrunner is watching an episode of the show or a director or something. Someone that we've seen on set is in his apartment watching this episode. You know, it's possible that it's the photographer too. I couldn't quite tell. But it's someone that we've seen before and he's watching the show and then there's a doorbell rings. He goes to get some. There's a pizza being delivered and the pizza man pulls out this screwdriver looking thing and stabs him in the eye with it. Ah. And then he's running into the apartment, running for his phone and pizza guy stabs him in the eye with it. Ah! And then he's running into the apartment
Starting point is 01:05:26 running for his phone and pizza guy stabs through his hand and through the phone. Ew! As he's like grabbed the phone he stabs through it and then just stabs and stabs and stabs and stabs him so many times and we see that it's
Starting point is 01:05:42 Mima but it's also Mima doing the same thing on television. Okay. And this is now intercut with all these shots of her naked, all the photographer's shots. So maybe it is the photographer. And then this bright white light as the flashing happens, as she's taking the photographs and stab, stab, stab. And then we hear take three and she wakes up in bed again, same position as she's woken up in many times now. Wow. And she's trembling, looking at her hands, doesn't know what's real anymore.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Phone rings. She gets a call from someone on set that says like, Mima, are you okay? Did you hear about whatever this guy that's just been killed? And she's like, that's real. That happened. And they're like, stay where you are. It's like, now we finally believe that something is happening related to you. The letter exploding and all these people now dying. Yeah. So they tell her stay there someone's gonna come get you she can't believe this is real and she goes nervously to her closet and opens it and finds all her bloody clothes so she presumably committed the murder, possibly. That's what she's thinking. And she's very scared.
Starting point is 01:07:10 They bring her back to someone comes and gets her and they bring her back to set. Everyone's like scared and talking and I guess still filming, though. And she's so out of it and like having a very clearly horrible time. She's again, like asking them, asking if she's alive. No one's like, we need to send this girl home. She's like, she's alive, which doesn't feel good. And she says to Rumi, maybe that truck hit me and this is all a dream. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And she's now having to film that murder scene again. They'd have to do like a pickup on the scene where she's killing someone with pretty much the exact same weapon. And she gets up to go to do the take. And she's standing over this actor that's all bloodied. And he looks up at her and she sees the photographer's face or whoever was just murdered with eyes gouged out. And she passes out, wakes up in bed. We see Aerie, the detective woman, main character of the show, saying, are you awake? And Mima kind of blinking her eyes, waking up. She says, can you tell me your name? Mima says
Starting point is 01:08:37 that her name's Mima. And then it's like clear that we're in the filming of the show still. And it cuts to, because they're in character the airy and the other detective and so airy goes back into they're doing the like two-way mirror scene where mima is in an interrogation room so then it's the other two detectives talking amongst themselves and this is where they say she thinks she's a pop idol. She has dissociative personality disorder. Yoko is nothing more than a character she's created. They say, cut, that's a wrap. Great job, Mima. Like double bind is in the can. And the crew is all like hugging her and telling her you did such a good job. She's, you know, just like dead behind the eyes at this point like what the fuck is going on and
Starting point is 01:09:26 uh they're all going out to celebrate and and mima's like i need to grab something first she stays behind for some reason i can't remember but roomie is waiting for her outside and it's like okay like i'll meet you by the car so mimaima's now alone in the studio or whatever, where the set is. And Mimania appears, attacks her. Oh, God. He's got a knife. And she runs through some hall
Starting point is 01:10:01 and ends up in the place where they filmed the rape scene, the set of the strip club in the same exact position. He tackles her down to the stage where she was filmed being raped. And he starts like ripping off her top and she's, it's like happening for real this time. And he's, uh, he says, you're not Mima. You're not her.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I'm protecting the real Mima. And she's saying, like, what are you talking about? Like, I am Mima. It's me. And he's saying, no, the real Mima emails me every day and you don't know who I am. So you're not Mima. And he's attempting to rape her and murder her he's got a knife i don't know he's just like fully attacking her and she's able to reach down onto the ground there's a hammer and she fucking slams him in the head with that hammer and he drops drops dead presumably then we hear cut and she turns
Starting point is 01:11:08 and every there's bright lights and everyone's applauding you're the best mima you're so good oh my god what is happening and roomie comes in to the studio now because Mima's, you know, taking too long and she's coming to find her. Where is she? And she finds Mima in the hallway with her clothes torn, looking in complete shambles. She runs to her.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Oh my God. Like what happened? Are you okay? Okay. Mima takes her to the set of the strip club and the body is gone oh god and she's like this isn't possible roomie says are you sure you weren't dreaming mima's like fading she's like losing she's like about to pass out and so roomie's like i'll take you back to, I'll take you home. Mima kind of falls asleep in the car, wakes up in her bed. Rumi's in the other room making tea.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And she is like slowly looking around and like rubbing her head, like what happened? What's going on? She's like, oh, I need to call hadakoro because we didn't go to the party they probably like are wondering where we are but then she looks and sees all her fish are alive and her cham poster is still up she had taken her cham poster down earlier and she's looking around the room confused then she pulls back the curtain and it's a different outdoor area it's like not her balcony she's in a different house and she's like this isn't my apartment but everything looks exactly like her apartment and she's calling
Starting point is 01:13:01 tadakoro and we see the phone ringing uh Tadakoro is and he is dead. She doesn't know that, but he's been killed as well. And then out of the kitchen steps Rumi, dressed as pop star Mima. Mima is like, Rumi, what are you doing? Like, what the fuck and she's rubbing her head and she's like roomie roomie roomie went home but roomie was really mad that you left being a pop idol because that's what you were supposed to do oh my god and we're seeing the animation choices here like keep going back and forth between her looking like mima and her looking like roomy dressed as mima and so the like
Starting point is 01:13:53 reflection is roomy but then in the room she's seeing mima whoa and she's basically explaining how it was a huge mistake for her to become an actress. But luckily, the fans will protect you, especially me, Mania. He would do anything for you. He helped me get things back the way they're supposed to be. And so we're realizing that Rumi has been manipulating me,ania into attacking Mima. And now Rumi attacks Mima and they, she stabs her in the shoulder and Mima's only exit is the balcony, but there's, they're on like the second floor. She's trying to climb around to the next door balcony, but Rumi like knocks her off. So she's like hanging by her fingers, but then she falls, but lands on like trash can or something and breaks her fall. But she's, she's just running and Rumi is chasing her. But again, we're seeing it as two Mimas. seeing it as two Mimas. The roomie Mima is being like, you're, you're an imposter. And Mima is a pop idol, not an actress. And in the, as they're like fighting. So it's like a long
Starting point is 01:15:16 chase scene. They they're running all through the, like the streets. And at some point mima knocks off roomie's wig and she like screams because she's it like throws off her perception of herself and she stops and kind of collapses to the ground and she had in a fight smashed a glass window and she when her wig comes off she like stumbles onto a piece of broken glass like it gets like impaled by it kind of but not to a deadly degree but she starts like pouring blood until she gets her wig back on and then she snaps back to being mima and she she grabs she gets the wig back on and there's this great shot where she turns back as Mima now and looks at Mima with like blood streaming down her face. And she's just giving her a big smile. And Rumi, Mima, is now in the street.
Starting point is 01:16:29 and sees these approaching headlights and stands up to do like a pop star pose like thank you like because she's seeing it as the lights of a stadium oh my god and then real mima sees that she's about to be hit by a car and runs and knocks her out of the way, saving her life. And then because of the accident, like the car stops and people are like, oh, call the police, call the ambulance. They're both unconscious now. They've like knocked to the ground, hit their heads. And we come back up some time later, possibly years later. And we're in a mental hospital. time later, possibly years later, and we're in a mental hospital and we see Rumi saying,
Starting point is 01:17:15 you know, thank you for the flowers. And we see that it is Mima that has brought her flowers. And she says something like, I learned a lot from Rumi. Like she taught me a lot about myself. And as she's leaving the mental hospital, there's two nurses kind of whispering and they're like, is that Mima? Like, no, Mima wouldn't be here. And Mima gets into her car and looks at her little mirror and says, I am Mima. I am real.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And that's the end of the movie. Whoa. Crazy, right the movie. Whoa. Crazy, right? Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. I really loved it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:52 It's a trip, very trippy movie. I feel like it's an extremely rewatchable movie because, you know, there's just so many little details in it. And obviously this is, you you know i try to pick different movies each week this one had more in common with one we just did i guess it was a bonus episode triangle than i was expecting but like i said in the triangle episode it's like pointless to try to make everything make sense because it's someone having a like i think somewhat of a psychotic break yeah and their perception of the world but i think there are i think it's like safe to say that
Starting point is 01:18:35 roomie was pulling the strings on a lot of the stuff that was happening and like driving her crazy essentially cause like causing her to have a psychotic break. And so by the end, she's seems like she's, she's back to herself and, you know, happy ending. Wow. Happy ending. How about that? But yeah, it's kind of all about the, the nature of fame and people's expectations of famous people and wanting to be able to mold them into the version of them they want them to be and yeah just a um a cautionary tale about the danger of fame absolutely my goodness and you know let's all let's all give celebrities their space and respect let's respect some their boundaries and not go
Starting point is 01:19:26 into them unless invited no baths if you're invited that's fine but you can't go take a bath uninvited in a celebrity's home you can't do it you can't go take a bath uninvited in anybody's home but no that's a great point yeah i would say that that rule applies everywhere i would agree but wow yeah it was it was very good. And this was this director's first movie. What have they done since? I believe he has since died, but this was 97. And so, yeah, he died in 2010.
Starting point is 01:19:59 The only other movie in here that I've heard of is called Paprika. I have heard of that. And I'll probably watch it because, yeah, I was a big fan of this, of this movie, but cool. Like I said, it's not going to change probably your feelings on anime or make anime seem rather more approachable. More watchable for me. Yeah. Yeah. That that's okay i enjoyed hearing about it good good good good and yeah i mean i highly recommend this movie this is a great movie how long is it 80 minutes oh my god you gotta watch it you gotta watch it it's on shutter shutter.com 80 minute movie my god what have you why wouldn't you why wouldn't you
Starting point is 01:20:47 unless you're me in which case i know why wow but okay yeah that was perfect blue and no voices no can't do can't do a japanese voice's not okay. No, we will not be doing that. We will not be doing that. So I maybe will sing. Please sing. To the tune of one of Cham's greatest hits. Amazing. Which goes, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. That was bad, but I liked it. From all of us here, us here at Too Scary to Watch. Goodbye, goodbye. I don't know what that can be. I liked the two us here's.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I was not expecting that. And that was really fun. Very musical. It felt like it fit the tune. Yeah, yeah. It felt like it fit the tune. It called for it. Goodbye.
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