Too Scary; Didn't Watch - PET SEMATARY with Jonathan Sadowski

Episode Date: January 22, 2020

A cursed burial ground, a dad who just doesn't learn his lessons, and an adorable little boy with the cool-as-hell name 'Gage Creed' - we're recapping Mary Lambert's 1989 film Pet Sematary! J...onathan Sadowski (Young & Hungry, Chernobyl Diaries, Shookum Hills) joins us to talk about this truly insane movie. Don't shilly-shally, join us as we find out why sometimes dead is better! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:29 As an Audible member, you choose one title a month to keep from their ever-growing catalog. Sign up for a free 30-day Audible trial and your first audio book is free. Visit audible.ca to sign up. This is Emily. Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to
Starting point is 00:01:04 watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm scared. I to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm scared. I'm Henley and I'm scared. I'm Sammy and I am brave. Hell yeah. Anything scary happen to us this week? I got really sick.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I had a sinus infection. I got it the same day my mom came in town. She landed, got to my apartment and I was like in bed so sick. And she said it looked like a thousand bees had stung my face because my face was so swollen. That's very nice. That's what happened to me. That's pretty scary. I had a scary thing, which made me very mad. I was at Vons and the person in front of me in line
Starting point is 00:01:47 they asked him paper or plastic and he said plastic other people care about the environment so that i don't have to shut up and it made me so mad and i was buying bamboo toilet paper you guys know that i prefer my bamboo toilet paper because it uses 136th the amount of water. 136th the amount of water. I learned that from you. Yes. Anyways, and then he like looked over at that and was like, see, this lady's buying bamboo toilet paper. He brought you into it? And I was like, ooh, you
Starting point is 00:02:16 do not want to be in this conversation. How old was this man? And I just gave him a real death stare. I would say mid-twenties. Oh, no. I was really hoping it was going to be like 70. No, I know. That's what was extra scary about it. I was like, I thought the younger generation
Starting point is 00:02:31 that's our same generation, I guess. I think technically. How long is the generation? I don't know. Whatever. Yeah, I thought young people were a little more environmentally conscious, but I guess not. So, if you're listening, for my peace of mind, please don't use plastic bags. Bring your own bag to the grocery store. It's very easy.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And follow Sammy on Instagram and you can get lots of sustainable facts on Sundays. Easy changes. Easy changes. Easy changes. This is the only planet we got, people. That's it. It is. Everything is on fire for real. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Great. My thing is, well, it's basically just an update because this is my podcast and I can talk about what I want. Yeah. Hell yeah, you can. My sister had a baby this week. You're an aunt. I'm an aunt for the first time.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I'm very excited. And it is scary in that life is terrifying and I just it's my only sister. It's her first kid. I haven't met him yet but I am so every minute of every day I want to know what he's doing and it's
Starting point is 00:03:38 like a very strange and scary. That's so cute. Every day I'm like I haven't gotten a picture yet. I need a picture but he's doing the exact same thing. It's like he's not doing anything. There are no updates, but I am really obsessed and it's cool. That photo of him staring deeply into your sister's eyes, though, and her staring back is he really is perfect.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He's very cute. He's very cute and sweet. And I mean, it's cool. It's fucking so cool. Wow. You're going to be a really cool aunt. Thank you so much. I forgot Henley says aunt. Aunt, yes!
Starting point is 00:04:10 It's pronounced aunt. The correct pronunciation is aunt. Thank you. I'm very excited about it. Very excited about it. Well, I also was sort of brave this week because I watched the movie. Yes, you did. You's getting braver every day.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Braver every day. I did have a realization this week where I was like, so there I do want to be able to watch more scary movies. I'm like brave. Brave. Curious is what we've what we said before. Yep. But there are some movies that I never I never want to want to see.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Sure. You don't want to change too much I don't want to change too much No but there are some movies So the movie I'm thinking of which maybe we'll have to do in the podcast Saint Maud which we watched the trailer for together Oh Last week where I don't
Starting point is 00:04:56 You don't even want to want to see that I want to see that so bad No because I don't know what kind of person I would be if I did No I just I think I like conjuring scary, like I'm just going to be scared, I'm interested in that but then there's a whole other
Starting point is 00:05:15 crop of scary movies that are deeply upsetting like Hereditary or something like Hereditary I don't think I ever need to do that. You know what I mean? Well, there's like a realm of horror that's fantasy, which is kind of fun to live in for a second.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And then there's the realm of horror, which is playing off of true real, real world, real world life. Yeah, that's a good distinction. That's probably that is probably it. Good job, Henley. Thank you. This week's movie is of the supernatural variety it is pet cemetery the original from 1989 based off a stephen king
Starting point is 00:05:56 novel screenplay written by stephen king boo um directed by mary lambert starring dale midkiff fred gwynn denise crosby brad greenquist miko hughes and blaise bertolo oh and a really cool cat uh henley you'll be happy there's a cat oh I'm into it. And to talk about our movie this week, we have he is a an actor, a producer, a writer, a magician. You've seen him all over the place, young and hungry. He's in a horror movie himself, which we'll probably make him talk about. Welcome, Jonathan Sadowski. Hello, Jonathan. how are you? Lovely
Starting point is 00:06:46 You're lovely great Good to be here on the old pod On the old pod On the old pod Did anything scary happen to you this week Jonathan? Every day Every day A dog almost shit on my foot when I was fishing today
Starting point is 00:07:00 He told me to stop gentrifying Echo Park Oh that's a lot of things at once My fiance got into a car accident Oh no She has the whiplash Oh no That's the worst What else happened
Starting point is 00:07:13 My dog always growls at shit in the middle of the night Oh that's spooky Yeah I don't like that My cats just like stare at a spot on the wall And I don't like that Yeah no Pets are scary sometimes We have a lot of wild animals where I live.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So there's like lots of shit always running around the yard. And Moxie is like a total spaz. So she's always chasing. Yeah. She can protect you if it came down to it. Probably. Oh, she's a ruthless killer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 She's a big she's a big pity. Have you guys seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? I hate it. I watched it last night. I thought it was the worst movie of the year. I also hated it. And I'm happy to find someone else Literally almost walked out
Starting point is 00:07:46 I have friends in the film And I was like I am so sorry I guess I didn't I liked it Let me tell you why Go on Finish your story first
Starting point is 00:07:54 Oh no I was just referencing Something about a dog Referencing Brad Pitt's dog In the film Yes yes Which I would love to have a dog I could go
Starting point is 00:08:01 And it would just Rip throats Rip throats for me It's fucking awesome No let's just talk about this For one second Because if that script Oh boy I would love to have a dog. I could go and it would just rip throats. Rip throats for me. It's fucking awesome. No, let's just talk about this for one second. Because if that script came into anybody's desk without Quentin Tarantino's name on it, it would be laughed out of the business.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Yeah. Not wrong. And it was nominated for best screenplay, which is horse shit. That's how this whole business we call the show works, my friend. Bullshit. It's all politics. It's all bullshit.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yeah, there's lots of scary stuff to happen. But also, thank you for having me on the podcast. And I got to watch one of my favorite scary movies that I haven't seen since I was a kid. Oh, that's exciting. Being a big horror fanatic, this film scared all the poop out of me. When I was... How old was I?
Starting point is 00:08:48 I was nine when I saw this movie. Oh, that's young to watch this. Literally. Oh, that's... Yeah, that's too young. I saw this movie... I might have been 10 because I saw it on VHS when it came out.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Oh, okay. Okay. Have you always been a horror fanatic? Huge. Really? Ever since you were a little kid? Since I was a little kid. I loved horror films.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I remember watching Return of the Living Dead and having to sleep with my mom for a fucking week. And then, but like Jason, Freddie, like I went through the whole Nightmare on Elm Street phase. I actually got to be a part of the Friday the 13th franchise out here. Oh, cool. That's awesome. I did a film called Chernobyl Diaries as well.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Another scary one. That sounds scary. I remember that. I mean, good things aren't happening in Chernobyl, so one can only imagine. It's a scary place. Yikes. I did a film called Shookum Hills, which will be out this year. Is it scary?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah. Another one. Ooh. I also, I'm just, I love, I love being scared. Loved Halloween. Love Halloween. The holiday and the movie. Yeah just I love I love being scared loved Halloween love Halloween the holiday and the movie but yeah I love it like I remember when I was
Starting point is 00:09:50 doing Young and Hungry I actually reached out to the producers of Ghost Hunters and I was like oh my god I was like I want to I want to come and be a guest hunter and they're like let's do it so I flew to Delaware and spent the night in a haunted museum like I'm Jonathan Sadowski and I'm brave.
Starting point is 00:10:06 There we go. Amazing. Seriously brave. Oh my God. Did anything spooky happen in the museum? Oh yeah. I talked to a dead little boy and it was. What?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh yeah. No, you didn't. Don't tell Sammy that because she is so scared of ghosts and really believes in them. I love ghosts. I have a very, very deeply personal relationship with the spirit world. Oh my God. I am like a conduit. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Really? It's crazy. You should have your own show, Ghost Hunters. It's crazy. My buddy Jason Hawes, who created Ghost Hunters, he hit me up. Ghost Hunters, the new Ghost Hunters show on Travel Channel. It's like the highest rated show ever. Yeah. And he's like, dude, he's like, highest rated show ever. Yeah. Hey, kudos to your friend. And he's like, dude, he's like, we want you to come back.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And I was like, fuck yeah. Oh, cool. Do it. I was like, where are we hunting, dude? Oh my God. Yeah, where are we hunting? Where are we hunting? Hi, everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It is cocktail hour. And this week we will be continuing on with our corpse reviver series corpse revivers are cocktails that were created in the mid 1800s as hangover cures and we did a corpse reviver number one for the Evil Dead episode and A corpse reviver number two for 28 days later And now we are doing a more modern variation called the Corpses Whiskers. To make this drink, you will need 2 3rds an ounce of cognac, a 3rd an ounce of Noili Prat Extra Dry, a 3rd an ounce of Lillet Blanc,
Starting point is 00:11:36 a 3rd an ounce of Orange Curacao, a 6th an ounce of absinthe, 2 3rds an ounce of fresh squeezed lemon juice, and a 1 4 ounce of simple syrup you'll shake all ingredients with ice and strain into a chilled coupe glass and garnish with an orange zest twist cheers should we do some trivia on this movie i don't have much but i have a i have a few little things one which is is fun and relevant to this podcast Which is A casting what if we love a casting
Starting point is 00:12:08 What if yeah the Role of Lewis Creed Main character ish The first choice was Bruce Campbell Oh did he miss Out was Bruce Campbell we love Bruce Dead Another fun fact yeah Ellie
Starting point is 00:12:23 Creed uh-huh it's actually played by twins. Yes, and my other fun fact is that Miko, who plays Gage, is not played by twins. He's like two. He's super young. And he's super good. He's so good. There's a two-year-old
Starting point is 00:12:40 who's good? He's so fucking good. It's crazy. What does that mean? He's almost three. He's probably three, good he's so fucking good it's crazy what does that mean he's almost three he's probably three but he's like at least he's three okay so he's okay not impressive he's a little boy in kindergarten cop who goes boys have penises oh my god i love that vaginas love that that's so good and so it's way cheaper and way easier to have twins when they're kids right because you can swap them out twins but the director
Starting point is 00:13:10 Mary Lambert like fought the studio and was like we have to have this kid he's so good and he truly is though it's quite crazy he's so good oh there's a female director there's a female director Mary Lambert interesting okay okay but those are my only
Starting point is 00:13:25 trivias. Those are my only trivias. I have one that kind of is also relevant to our podcast. Stephen King said that Pet Sematary is the only
Starting point is 00:13:36 book he's ever written that scared him. Boo. What am I missing? We need Stephen King. Okay. We have a longstanding beef with Stephen King. The podcast has a We need Stephen King. Okay. We have a long-standing beef with Stephen King. The podcast has a feud with Stephen King.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I was like, I'm like picking up on something here. What am I missing? Yeah, very not subtle. I booed when I said his name. We don't love him. We don't love him. I don't hate him, but I'm... He's...
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah, I don't know. It's in jest. It is more fun. It's more in jest. It's more in joke than anything else. I will say, he does have a brief,
Starting point is 00:14:10 brief cameo in this film and is like, it's so stupid and unnecessary. He does cameos in most of this stuff. Yeah, I hated it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He did a creep show in the 80s. He did a cameo in a creep show. yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:21 he does lots of that stuff. This is also the first movie that he, he was like the hippest priest ever at the funeral. Oh my God, it's so stupid. It's so like, I'm movie that he He was like the hippest priest ever at the funeral Oh my god it's so stupid It's so like I'm Stephen King He looked like a fucking college TA
Starting point is 00:14:29 It's like and go in peace I think his story is actually Incredibly inspiring and interesting You know How they were living in like Basically poverty him and his wife And then he got his first Novel or story published and they were sent Like $5 poverty Him and his wife and then he got His first novel or story Published and they were sent like $5,000
Starting point is 00:14:48 And it was like ma And then they became literal billionaires Also it's fun that he wrote so much Stuff while he was super coked out Fuck yeah How else are you going to get all that work done That's why they're 1200 pages long The books are long
Starting point is 00:15:02 Before Adderall Yeah just had to do Coke. What can you do? Coke, apparently. Coke, yeah. Should we watch the trailer? Do we think that this is one that we could watch? I think we should.
Starting point is 00:15:13 The trailer for? It's an 80s trailer, Hen, so I think we could do it. Yeah, I'll watch it. Okay. What is this place? I brought you here to bury Alan's cat. Daddy, is Church all right? Why, Judd?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I have no reason. I dreamed he got hit by a car and you and Mr. Crandall buried him in the pet cemetery. What did we do tonight, Judd? What we did, Lois, was a secret. Paramount Pictures presents Stephen King's all-time best-selling tale of horror pet cemetery they make that look like that's a movie starring stephen king they really do and the scene that they show in the trailer he it's literally like they showed all of it in the he's like it's so quick he's like not the movie. Okay, I will quickly go through the characters, and then I'll pass it off to you, Jonathan,
Starting point is 00:16:08 and you get us started. We have the Creed family. Dr. Louis Creed, his wife, Rachel, their daughter, Ellie, and their son, Gage. Ellie's probably four or five. Gage is two or three? I'd say six-ish. Six-ish? Five, six?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Mm-hmm. Their neighbor, Judd Crandall. We also have Victor Pascal. Oh, my God. Missy Dandridge. Rachel's parents make an appearance. And we have the cat, cat Winston Churchill who goes by Church oh great name for a cat
Starting point is 00:16:47 name for a cat one of the trivia was a lot of people think that he is a Russian blue he's not he's a British short hair if anyone's wondering okay thank you for carrying that up British short hair okay are we ready oh I can't wait to hear every ladies and gentlemen let's do it about it
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Starting point is 00:20:16 The Creed family relocated to Maine. See, Dr. Lewis Creed became the doctor at the new university. Oh. Relocates his family there. They meet this guy, Judd Crandall, who is the neighbor from across the street. was creed became the doctor at the new university oh relocates his family there they meet uh this guy judd crandall who is the neighbor from across the street um first thing you notice when they get this beautiful old house is this road that these trucks fly down these roads like huge oil oil takers like weird but it's just like this this kind of pass and they just they always fly down
Starting point is 00:20:43 these roads okay that's gonna come and says you might want to be careful because he'll wind up in the bat seminar oh no that does happen so um spelled with an s yes because kids do it yeah so uh john
Starting point is 00:20:59 crandall's been living there since like the 1920s he grew up there his whole life uh little ellie realizes that as they're kind of checking out the house, there's this little path behind the house. And she's like, I wonder what's going on there. Daddy, daddy, there's a path. Oh, and she's also on a tire swing that snaps for no reason. Well, the reason is, I mean, I also was like, what?
Starting point is 00:21:17 So she's on a tire swing swinging around. She falls and starts crying. As that, so the parents go to her, gauge the little toddler. They're distracted and he starts wandering out towards the road. as that. So the parents go to her, gauge the little toddler. Oh, yeah. They're distracted and he starts wandering out towards the road. Judd grabs him and that's when he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:30 careful this road, there's so many trucks. Oh, yeah, yeah. So it's a little bit of foreshadowing. Then she notices this whole thing and Judd says,
Starting point is 00:21:37 oh, we'll have to explore some other time. Yeah, I'll tell you where it goes later. So next thing we know, it's first day of school. Okay. And Dr. Creed goes to school And the
Starting point is 00:21:49 First thing that happens is these college Kids come oh my god did I miss something No no no they're only this weirdest Moment that again I'm so this is why I'm bad At being the person who watches the movie because the things that Stick with me are like not the important parts of the movie But so they go so Jed Tells them to get their cat fixed.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So when they're first there, he's like he gets he has like a beer on the porch with Lewis and he's like, we should get your cat fixed. That path goes to the pet cemetery. A lot of animals die here because of the road. So you should get your cat fixed. Fixed cat won't wander.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. Well, fixed cat won't wander across the road. Across the road And so Before his first the first day of school Whatever he's taking the cat to get Fixed and the Ma the little girl is her cat
Starting point is 00:22:37 Church is her cat she loves him very much And she's like daddy is anything gonna happen to him Promise me that nothing's gonna happen when we Go to get him fixed and he like hesitates a beat he doesn't want To say that everything will definitely be fine He's a doctor you know And the mom goes I wrote it down because it really
Starting point is 00:22:53 She said tell her everything's going to be fine yeah she said Don't Don't shilly shally lewis Give the little girl a promise It's so weird It's so weird The way she talks to him shilly shally don't give the little girl a promise and he goes i promise and he like glowers our and then also is this the moment too where she's like sitting up she comes she like wakes
Starting point is 00:23:18 up and she comes and sits on her dad's lap and she's like daddy she's like what if what if god takes church before and he's like you know, sometimes cats get all lazy. But it's not God's cat. It's my cat. God made his own cat. I don't want church to die. Yeah, there's a lot of weird, like, well, it's weird. So Dr. Creed goes to school.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Okay. Which is, like, amazing because this school has its own ER, apparently. Yeah, he's like the university doctor. And he's, like like in a lab coat. It's a full-on hospital, which makes it look like that. So anyway, this group of college kids come with this blanket and laying on this blanket like a stretcher is this kid with
Starting point is 00:23:54 half of his head smashed off. That's the first thing that enters frame. It's just like this brains out of this guy's head. It is abrupt. Meet Victor Pascoe. Victor Pascoe. He was hit by acoe he was hit by a truck he was hit by a truck on one of the roads uh-oh uh he is anyone gonna do anything about these roads nobody's gonna do a damn thing build a bridge the year was 1989 we're not doing a damn thing about the roads
Starting point is 00:24:15 so uh they he's like there's like all these people it's pandemonium and and dr creed has this uh this poor son of a bitch on the table and he takes out an oxygen pump and he's pumping it and closes the curtains and everybody leaves and he's like ugh. He tried his best but there was nothing to be done. Then here's the fucking kicker. Louis Creed
Starting point is 00:24:37 is sitting there just staring at this dead kid and he goes, wait, what's the wife's name? Rachel? Rachel. He goes, I told Rachel i wasn't expecting anything more than a sprained ankle on my first day and he's staring look at this guy's brain falling out of his head and then out of nowhere the kid the kid like pops away yeah and like he puts his arm on his shoulder it's a good jump scare and uh and spits blood in his face and it's like lots of blood in the face he spits constantly he's like not safe and it's
Starting point is 00:25:05 like lots of blood in the face and the doctor handled it like a fucking champ yeah like he didn't like freak out or anything he was just like he's just like how are you alive like literally that's like what he says to this guy yeah he's just very shocked he's i mean the guy was dead he was dead yeah and then uh the next thing he knows he looks back and the guy's dead again he says something first but what does he say he says a and the guy's dead again. He says something first. But what does he say? He says a thing. Here's why partially I was like, Stephen King? The fuck? Don't go there.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Not yet. His dying words are the soil of... Also, this guy is chewing the scenery. He does it the whole movie. He's loving this role. The soil of a man's heart is stonier
Starting point is 00:25:48 Lewis. The fuck does that mean? What does that mean? He says that but but Lewis goes, how'd you know my name? And then he goes, yeah, that's literally that's like like there's a dead guy with half his head fucking off with his hand on your shoulder just cough blood in your face and the question you ask him is how did
Starting point is 00:26:04 you know my name and then he and then he starts to he starts dying again he goes I'll come to you and he's smiling and then he's dead and then he's dead again oh what the next scene Lewis the next scene Lewis is asleep in bed and guess who appears in as an
Starting point is 00:26:20 apparition in his doorway oh Victor fucking Pascal fucking Pascal head still all messed up? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. If anything, he looks worse. Oh, nasty. But he is wearing
Starting point is 00:26:30 an unzipped hoodie and little tiny red shorts. I was going to say, I noticed the shorts too and he has like these like... It's absurd. It's absurd. These cute little Vans on.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah, he's like a little sporty guy. Yeah. With half a head. And he goes, follow me, Victor. And he's's like don't keep me waiting victor or lewis yeah or lewis yeah yeah and this is also just the thing about this actor and they probably told him to do whatever the ghost thing is very 80s but he like backs out of frame he's like come
Starting point is 00:26:59 with me he's like don't, he's being very creepy. I mean, it's a ghost, but he's also like, come on, you gotta come with me. So then Victor follows him, as it were. As you do. And he follows him down to the basement. Don't do that. Right? Oh, the basement is always a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:27:18 The basement, but then essentially just to get out of the house. It's out of the house. They go down the path. They go down the path to the pet cemetery. So they get to the pet cemetery and Victor, the ghost, says to Lewis, he goes, this is the place where the dead speak, which is something that Judd said earlier when he showed them the pet cemetery. Oh, because they all went to the pet cemetery.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I forgot that part. They took a family trip to the pet cemetery early on before they got church fixed, which is why Ellie was like, I don't want to die. And then, yeah, they also show off like a goldfish and then they show off uh uh judd's dog yeah so we've seen the pet cemetery before he takes him back there uh he goes this is place where the dead speak and then he points his hand up and he goes don't what does he say he says don't go there yeah basically like uh oh he tells him do not go to the place where the dead walk and he points
Starting point is 00:28:07 basically just beyond the pet cemetery it glows bright blue because it's the 80s and um and then he says the barrier was not meant to be crossed and then was this the point where like victor was like lewis is like why are you here and he's like you were as good as dead when
Starting point is 00:28:23 you came to me yeah he's like, you were as good as dead when you came to me. Yeah, he thinks that he's being haunted. And he's dead, he's being haunted. And then Victor says, well, you helped me, so I'm going to help you. Yeah, so he's a good ghost. He's a good ghost. He's just being so creepy and awful. He can't help it. It's Victor.
Starting point is 00:28:36 He can't help it. He's a weirdo. You get the sense that he was a weirdo in life, too. Yeah. All right. So we wake up. He wakes up in the morning. It was a dream.
Starting point is 00:28:44 It was all a dream. And it's Thanksgiving. Except it wasn't in the morning. It was a dream. It was all a dream. And it's Thanksgiving. Except it wasn't. He thinks his dream pulls back the covers and his feet are covered in the like nastiest, craziest mud from the cemetery. It's like nobody's feet would ever get muddy in that way. It's crazy. I think it's a clue.
Starting point is 00:29:04 What actually happened. Was the family gone already at that point? They left for Chicago for Thanksgiving. No, now they're about to leave. So Ellie and Rachel are about to leave for Chicago. And Gage. And Gage for Thanksgiving. Dr. Louis Creed doesn't go over because there's a little riff in the family. Parents don't
Starting point is 00:29:20 like him. Parents don't like him. And he goes, quote, the dad said, Louis, you'll never be one of us. A little rich snobbery wow and he's like a hot doctor wait why don't they like look if we're gonna put a hot or not poll we always talk about who's hot in these movies um you got the fever for the creed i mean absolutely not he's you got the fever you want dr creed to cure your fever oh boy so a hot doctor is not good enough for this family for rachel not good enough for rachel so uh high standards and by the way rachel at this point not a lot to do her character not a lot to do just that one great line line. Just that one perfect line. Delivered excellently.
Starting point is 00:30:06 What was it? Shilly-shally? Don't shilly-shally. Give the little girl a promise. Yeah. She hasn't had a lot to do. And you know her rich parents taught her that word. Yeah. So the family goes to Chicago to visit the in-laws.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And we see Judd. And Judd comes around and goes oh Louis I think you might want to come over here there's a dead cat on my lawn so Louis goes over there and he looks down and sure enough Church has fucking been hit by a truck
Starting point is 00:30:38 he's been hit by a truck as we knew he would hit by a truck here's the weird thing the truck he's on the lawn he must have gotten hit and sort of wandered, catapulted. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:30:48 Who are these truck drivers? They're all smacked out on meth and Why is no one doing anything about it? They're all smacked out on meth. This is,
Starting point is 00:30:56 I think it's like pretty middle of nowhere Maine. Like no one's like monitoring this. There's literally, there are two houses on this road through like
Starting point is 00:31:02 the rural landscape. Who I'm mad at is the realtor. Yeah. Why do you let a family buy a house on this road through like the rural landscape. Who I'm mad at is the realtor. Yeah. Why do you let a family buy a house on this road? Yeah. Anyway. Dr. Lewis Creed decides to peel church off the lawn like Velcro.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah. Peel, peel, peel. Peels him off the lawn like Velcro. Cat is rigor mortis. Ooh. And then he puts him in a garbage bag. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And he and Lewis now is having this, you know, crisis where he's like, oh, fuck, what am I going to tell Ellie? Ellie just freaked out about this. Ellie just called me and was like, how's church? She's obsessed with church. And Judd goes, well, I got somewhere we can take charge. The Pet Sematary? To the Pet fucking Cemetery.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Oh, no. So they take pickaxes. Yeah. So he gets this giant shovel and just go. And they've been there for a few months now, I guess. But they're not great. I don't think they know each other that well. And he just goes, follow me and walks.
Starting point is 00:31:53 They go to this. Here's the other thing. They go to this pet cemetery and they have to crawl over this giant barricade of trees and stuff. Well, because they go to the point where the pet cemetery ends that the blue part that Victor said, don't go there. Don't go where the dead walk. So now they're going where the dead walk. So they go to this point where the pet cemetery ends that the blue part that Victor said, don't go there. Don't go where the dead walk. So now they're going where the dead walk.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So they go to this Indian burial ground. But to get there, it's a fucking hike. Now, mind you, up mountains and Judd is like 90 and he smokes a pack of reds a day. He's constantly smoking. He's like lighting one with the next. He's like lighting. Do you see any lights matches with this thumbtip and shit? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:21 He's like constantly smoking. So he's like, he's like, he's like at the top of the fucking peak and he's like come on lois like it's not too much farther and he's carrying a dead cat in a trash bag also like he kept like watching him like throw it on a rock while he climbs up and he keeps on saying just a little bit farther and then lewis screams like you said that an hour ago and he's like i made it this time and this whole time lewis we never hear lewis god, what are we doing? Yeah. Just following this guy randomly into the abyss. So
Starting point is 00:32:49 they get to this Indian burial ground. It's like at the top of a cliff. It's like this circle with a... It looks kind of like a pentagram. It really does. Like it built in rock sort of on this. Oh, that was in the trailer. Yeah. On this cliff. So then and now they're going to bury church. But Judd tells him, you gotta bury your own. Yeah, I'd help you, but you gotta bury church, but Judd tells him, you got to bury your own.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, I'd help you, but you got to bury your own. This guy does not seem like we should trust him. So. And yet we are. So they dig, which takes a very long time.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Very long time. All the way till the sun goes down. They dig this little hole for a fucking cat. A little cat grave. And then they go home. And Ellie's like, how's church? Well, this is
Starting point is 00:33:29 Judd says, now Lewis, when they ask, don't tell them what we did here. And he's like, what did we just do? What did we do? Why the fuck did I do this? And Judd goes, what we did was a secret. Oh no. What we did was a secret thing
Starting point is 00:33:46 and this is the part that I had to put subtitles on because I couldn't understand a damn word he said, but this is important. He says something like this secret thing. They say women are going to keep a secret, but they've never seen into a man's heart. Also, what the fuck does that mean? Then he goes, a man's heart, Louis, is stonier.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And Louis goes like, whoa, I've heard that before. Uh-oh, bum-bum-bumcoe victor pascoe said that still we've heard it repeated what does it mean it means nothing i don't know but they both said it and that's bad cut to the next day and they see uh the guy what is the fucking he's like, he's like goes to his basement or something. Yeah. Lewis is like breaking some leaves and he goes back and he goes back in. And who is sitting there staring at him with glowing eyes? Church.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Fucking church. And church. How he meows in this like like this like bad cat sound. I don't like that. And what does he do is swipes and cuts his fucking face yeah so church like meows at him so he tries to he like gets church he lures church
Starting point is 00:34:52 over and it's like this is fucking crazy gets church picks him up earlier we saw him pick church up by the way we saw got some good moments with church very sweet cat he could pick him up and cuddle him the cat slept on the bed with Ellie like a very very sweet cat so he goes to get church over he's like church come here picks him up and cuddle him. The cat slept on the bed with Ellie, like a very, very sweet cat. So he goes to get church over.
Starting point is 00:35:06 He's like church. Come here, picks him up. And he's like bloody. Like, it looks like he got hit by a car. He smells awful. And he's got covered in dirt. And,
Starting point is 00:35:16 and Lewis says like he ate his way out of being buried. And then, and that's when he's like holding him and church go like, and like swipes him in the face. So this is... Scratches him, claws him right in the fucking face. It's a different cat than we met before.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Demon cat. So then also, they... Is he talking to Ellie again? Um... No. No. He takes a shower.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He doesn't take a bath. Oh my God. Well, he goes to Judd's to be like, what the fuck is up? My cat is back. So Judd and Lewis always have... They always have beers together. They have beers together.
Starting point is 00:35:44 They're men. They always have Budweiser. Okay. This is so absurd. Cracking a couple cold ones. I know, it really is. It's so much crazier. It's so ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But yes, he's like, hey, what the fuck? And that's when he tells him like, I did that with my dog. Judd's like, I buried my dog up there. Yeah, so he buried Spot. And then one day
Starting point is 00:36:02 when Judd's mom was doing laundry, hanging the sheets on the clothesline guess who came back? Guess who came back? Spot. Fucking right he did. But he was never
Starting point is 00:36:13 the same. And Judd said sometimes they came back and they're not the same as they were. Wait, but so did Judd like Spot being back? It was his heart and joy.
Starting point is 00:36:22 But did he like him after the fact? Why is he taking to bury the cat so yeah so he basically said i had the same question if you know that they don't come back his reasoning was uh ellie's not
Starting point is 00:36:33 ready to learn about death yeah so what's the worst that could happen let's make her learn about demons instead so so spot comes back uh and they have to fucking did the dog die natural causes Older Yeah It's just not a nice dog anymore Horrible
Starting point is 00:36:47 Like Cujo Fucking bloody And like Yeah but you know Whatever And that's when That's when Fucking Lewis goes
Starting point is 00:36:55 Has he never buried A person up there And John's like No No No Like spills all the Like he like
Starting point is 00:37:02 Knocks the bottles over Like no Oh then there's a bad scene so after after the Budweiser scene Lewis goes home for a nice warm bath before the
Starting point is 00:37:10 before the family comes back from the in-laws in Chicago sure sure and he's laying in this bath he closes his eyes which he never can do and it's Emily's favorite scene because he's all naked
Starting point is 00:37:17 he's fucking you almost get a little bit of his nuts in the bottom of the frame too like literally every woman's favorite part of a man it's like it's like literally he's like butt naked i was like this is gonna be a dick shot
Starting point is 00:37:28 um but he never is he sinks into this this warm bath and then what happens bloop a fucking rat drops dead bloody rat drops into the bath guess who brought him a present oh no church church brought him a present church bought him a present Church. Church brought him a present. Church brought him a present. And then like, which is very funny because church. A rat is a big thing for a cat to catch. Well, I was going to say, it's big. And church, first of all, threw it from an impossible distance. It's like if her bedroom door opened up and I was in the bathtub here and like a cat was like.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah. Like as if she's like throwing a football. Also, my thing is like when a cat brings you a treat it it loves you it is supposed to be nice who would want a bloody rat when they're in a bath he and he I think this is a very good reaction in a movie he's not a very good actor in my opinion
Starting point is 00:38:18 but he really is like he like jumps out he's like really freaked out but he also goes he goes church how did you get in here yeah there's that that's a direct quote yeah it's not always asking the important question so uh church uh the family comes home yep uh ellie sees church and she's like what's wrong with church and she's not really mean to ellie though no but he smells super bad he smells like death. And Ellie also had a dream in Chicago. She said, is church okay? I had a dream that you and Judd, that he got hit by a truck and then you and Judd buried him in the pet cemetery.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So exactly what happened. Ellie's got a little bit of the shining, one might say. One might say. Stephen King does love to do that. Add a little bit. Oh, I actually read a trivia that there's like Cujo posters in the background somewhere and also like your dog comes back and it looks like yeah and you know the girl it's always like if you look at the shining like you know little danny lawrence had the shining and it's like a kid right he likes the kids with the the power with the yes yeah um this is a thing
Starting point is 00:39:18 that is important to the plot moving forward but it's weird i didn't really understand why it happened so we didn't address that They have like a housekeeper woman. Yeah. Super, super weird thing. She's just always like. Her name is Missy. And she's in pain. She's in pain a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And she, out of nowhere, like writes a letter. And she's like, I can't go on. I have cancer. And she hangs herself. And she hangs herself. Oh, my God. So that we get that scene. That's the funeral. That's Stephen King.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yes. So then we cut to the funeral. But it's like pretty. Her real only purpose in this movie is to hang herself so that we can go to a funeral um funeral where Stephen King is uh given the super priest um
Starting point is 00:39:53 we have so they come back and this is another moment where Ellie's like wondering about death right that this woman just died so she asked her dad like what happens after he died and he goes well people think a lot of things then we see him don't shilly-shally. We see him. The mom is in the kitchen hearing this, but isn't part of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:40:10 We see him look at church and he goes like, I think we go on after we die. And it's like, well, yeah, you have pretty compelling evidence. And the mom hears this and is like crying. So then we go up to the bedroom and she reveals the most upsetting part of the film, I would say. Yeah. Rachel has a sister who has spinal meningitis. Zelda.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Zelda, who's also kind of the Boo Radley of the family, where they just keep her locked away in a room. Oh, my God. She's like nine years old. Have we not met this person yet? And it's like this flashback and it's played by Andrew Bubistek. Rachel goes and tells the story. It's a man in a wig.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's a man in a wig with like a really gaunt face and like the spine is all fucking coming through her back and shit. It's really awful. It's like that scene when I was a kid was the one that I had nightmares about. Oh my fucking God, of course. It's awful. It's like it's like they open. It's like the little
Starting point is 00:40:59 girl opens the door and you see this like disfigured body on a bed from behind and it just all the spine in the ribs and then it turns around and it's kind of a man's face with a wig it scared the shit out of me it's fucking awful awful and she's like nasty
Starting point is 00:41:16 and she's got this voice and she's like she's like almost like a little wicked witchy like yeah she's like really nasty she's really nasty so Rachel has a flashback she's like really nasty she's really nasty so Rachel has a flashback her husband about it and what she says she's afraid she's like I was afraid that like so yeah so she was like I used to have to
Starting point is 00:41:32 take care of my sister we like kept her locked up in this room in this flashback also we're in her parents house we're seeing a very creepy weird painting up on the wall of like a kid in fancy clothes little kid and like fancy creepy clothes becomes a thing but so
Starting point is 00:41:47 she's explaining like I used to have to take care of my sister and we see this flashback she's nasty and Rachel's like I hated her and I just I felt so bad because I wanted her to die but she was my sister but it was awful and she was like and then one day my parents were out and I heard my sister calling for me and I went
Starting point is 00:42:03 up and she started dying and as she was dying she was choking and I got so scared that people were going to think I murdered her because I hated her so much but she was just choking so I like ran out of the room and I was crying but I think I was also laughing because I hated her and I was so glad she was dying.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Jesus Christ. And then so we cut back. Remember when I said Rachel didn't have a lot Well bitch had some Fucking luggage Oh my god So we cut back to like Norm and she's like
Starting point is 00:42:30 Sobbing and And Louis is Holding her And he's a very good Husband in this moment Where he was like Wow Your parents
Starting point is 00:42:36 What he says is like If I didn't already Have enough reason To hate your parents I do now They should never Have left you alone With her
Starting point is 00:42:42 She should have Had a caretaker That's fucking awful I am so sorry you didn't do anything wrong and he's like I'm gonna get you a Valium husband of the year I don't take that I mean he's like tonight
Starting point is 00:42:55 you take Valium I'm a doctor I know what to do yeah so we just get that really fucking horrifying scene that's really upsetting That came out of left field I was not expecting that That's super out of left field
Starting point is 00:43:07 That's a lot The whole thing Yeah So then we're at a picnic We're at a picnic What could go wrong It's a picnic A nice pleasant picnic
Starting point is 00:43:15 Now understand this So there's The Crandall house On one side of the street And there's The Creed house On the other side of the street And there's
Starting point is 00:43:23 Just open fields all around Beautiful gorgeous Beautiful fields And there's Somehow there's a picnic table Out the other side of the street and there's just open fields all around beautiful gorgeous beautiful fields and there's somehow there's a picnic table out in the middle of these fields like an old school wooden craftsman picnic table and they're all having a fucking hoot they're flying a kite creed doctor is
Starting point is 00:43:37 flying a kite with gage and it's up in the eye and john's like look at how high that kite is and ellie starts bitching she's like i want to fly the kite it's my turn to in the eye and john's like look at how high that kite is and ellie starts bitching she's like i want to fly the kite it's my turn to fly the kite and rachel's like wait until gage is done with his turn and uh so gage starts flying this kite and they're all laughing they're like look at him go he's like i can't stress enough how cute this kid is and uh he's going so cute and we've really passed over moments earlier in the
Starting point is 00:44:06 film where Gage is so cute. He calls on the phone and he's like, I love you, daddy. I love you, daddy. But his voice is just such an adorable little angelic. I love you, daddy. At one point, he throws food at the cat and goes like, church! He's just a cute little toddler. Every time he'll drop something, he'll go, uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:44:22 He's a classic, cute toddler. He's flying this kite. Everybody's loving it. So Dr. Lewis Creed turns his back on Gage, and he starts talking to the family, and they're all laughing. I mean, what could go wrong? Well, the wind picks up. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And the kite goes up in the air. And what does Gage do? He drops the fucking spool of the kite. Uh-oh. And Gage says, uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And now the wind starts taking the kite.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Cut to down the road in a fucking massive truck. There's like a meth head cranking up rock and roll music, driving on the road, not paying attention. What's going on? Flying down the street back to the creeds, laughing, laughing back to the truck driver, cracking, laughing, cracking, laughing, cracking gauge, running after the thing. John Crandall stands up.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Don't lose. Get the baby. Well, Lewis starts running for theall stands up. Don't lose. Get the baby. Well, Lewis starts running for the street. They're all screaming. Get the baby. And Lewis starts running, running, running.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Gage is almost at the road. The truck comes around the turn. What happens to Lewis? He fucking trips and falls just in time to see this kid get smashed by the truck. And all you see is his one shoe, a little bloody,
Starting point is 00:45:24 a little bloody sneaker tumbling on the street. This scene was great. So he's on his knees and he screams No! Oh my god. It is so upsetting. That's so sad. I still get the goosies about that scene.
Starting point is 00:45:40 It's devastating. And then we cut to Dr. Lewis Creed is sitting at his home. Like, at this point, you don't know. I mean, if the bloody sneaker
Starting point is 00:45:49 didn't give it away, you still think Gage might be there. And then it's him looking at all these pictures of his son. Yeah, he's fucking
Starting point is 00:45:53 very dead. Going through it. Very dead. Yeah, he's dead. Going through it. And he's like catatonic. He looks like,
Starting point is 00:45:58 he's just like, I mean, yeah, that's horrible. That's horrible. So Gage is gone. If only there was some way to reanimate him, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah, well, guess what? Guess what? What could go wrong? Oh, my God. Judd has another talk with... Well, he had the funeral first. And the funeral is another fucking crazy scene. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I forgot about the funeral. Okay, so get this. Oh, no. Rachel's family sucks. Rachel's family sucks. Oh, and they have to come for the funeral. They have to. So they come to the funeral. They have to. They come to the funeral.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And guess what fucking happens? The dad gets in fucking Dr. Lewis's face, says, this is your fault. How can you not watch him? Punches him. He says, I quoted the I wrote the line down. He goes, you stinking shit. You killer of children.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And then he punches him. It's his son's funeral. They get into a wrestling match. They knock over Gage's casket and it opens just enough to see his fucking little hand inside. One little hand. Oh my God. Great shot.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Props to Mary Lambert for that director. Yeah. Like it was super, super good. Everyone is like screaming and it's awful. It's a shit show. As if we didn't like Rachel's dad enough. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's bad. Yeah. What the fuck? So then we're at night and we have and we have a talk between Lewis and Judd. This time they're drinking scotch, not enough. Yeah. Wow. It's bad. Yeah. What the fuck? So then we're at night and we have a talk between Louis and Judd. This time they're drinking scotch, not beer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, they got it up. Lost your kid. Yeah. Stay calm. Call us for it.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You go to scotch. And, uh... Judd basically goes like, hey. Oh, no, he says he's like, I think I'm to blame. It's my fault that Gage died. Because when we reanimated church, we awoke some sort of power and it took Gage as revenge.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Whoa. And then he goes, I lied to you before. I know what you're thinking. I know what you're thinking right now. You're thinking like, you can put your son on the ground and bring him back.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And he was like, I lied to you before. It has been done on a human. So this one guy, he died in the war and they buried him in the fucking in the place in the burial ground. And he came back and then he said, like, I'll stop dies. I don't come back the same way they were. We see it like flashback.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And you know who he looks like? This is like, have you seen Men in Black? When Vincent D'Onofrio like is the giant roach and he puts on the guy's skin and he's like walking like this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:13 So that's like what this guy looks like. Such a clear zombie, like a total zombie. Yeah. And he's like deranged. And he's totally deranged and he's like fucking up the town.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Oh, my God. The first shot we see of him, he's chewing on a leg. Yes. Bad sign. He's like a up the town. And the first time we see him, he's chewing on a leg. Yes. Bad sign. He's like a child's leg. He's like, like a fucking like it's a turkey leg. Yeah, he's messed up.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Like, is that the fucking Renaissance Fair? Yeah. So did he kill the child? Is that the exact time? Probably. At the very least, he's eating a leg. Yeah. So so they're like, we got to get, you know, Judd
Starting point is 00:48:46 at this time and his friends like we got to take care of fucking Timmy. Yeah, Judd's like a younger man. So they bring a bunch of gasoline to this guy's house and they douse the house of gasoline. And by the way, why is it when people pour gasoline in a house in the movies, they like really fucking shake it everywhere. It's like
Starting point is 00:49:01 is that necessary? It's gasoline. It's going to light on fire. Yeah. But I guess you have the gasoline. What else are you going to do? So dramatic. So dramatic with the gasoline. So they pour gasoline through this guy's house. They throw like shit through his windows and they're like begging the guy to come out.
Starting point is 00:49:18 The dad. The veteran's dad. But then the vet like Timmy grabs his dad on the couch. I don't know if he's trying to kill his dad or what. But then they fucking light the place on fire. And they both burn up. And the vet, like, Timmy grabs his dad on the couch. I don't know if he's trying to kill his dad or what. I don't know. But then they fucking light the place on fire. And they both burn up. And the house burns the fuck down.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Wow. And so we're back in present day. Judd's telling a story and he says a line, which is, I'll give it to you, Stephen. Sometimes. A good line. Sometimes. Dad is better. I think he's right.
Starting point is 00:49:42 He's right. Sometimes death is better. Death is better. Yep. I think he's right he's right sometimes Death is better Yep so Now Rachel and Ellie The only other two family members left Go back to Chicago I think they're gonna like it's I think maybe They're moving back to Chicago it seems like
Starting point is 00:49:57 They're like well this didn't work We gave it our best shot They're traumatized So Rachel and Ellie go back and And Louis says like, I'll meet you in a few days. He has to, like, take care of some stuff. Tie up some loose ends everywhere. Tie up some loose ends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:12 But you know what those loose ends entail? I bet you do. Oh, God. Digging up gauge. He's reanimating his son. Oh, my God. Lewis takes the old station wagon And a pickaxe And a shovel
Starting point is 00:50:26 To the cemetery Hops over a fence In broad daylight And digs up his son's tomb In broad daylight Until Until A cop car comes driving by
Starting point is 00:50:38 Shines a light around He ducks in his grave He gets into the grave Dits into the grave Oh god And the cops drive off. He gets back out. And he's so happy.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He's like, oh, I made it. This is also the moment where we get a return visitor. Our good friend Vincent Victor, Victor Pascal. Victor Pascal. Uh-huh. Comes back. He's like, what'd I tell you, buddy? What'd I tell you?
Starting point is 00:51:02 As Louis is trying to dig up the grave, he's like, hey, don't do this. Don't do this. Bad idea, bad idea. Come on, guy. And it's clear at this point, Lewis has sort of lost his mind. Yeah. As grief does, and also it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:14 other crazy stuff has happened. Right. Does Ichterve Ask How Pay go to LEA? Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Thank God we coded that. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:51:24 No one knew what you're talking about there um so so pascal this is the first time we've seen pascal in a minute since the first ghost you've seen um and he's like hey don't do this and the ground is sour the ground is sour the soil is sour and so and lewis says look i have a plan i'm not crazy I have a plan. I'm not crazy. I have a fucking plan. I'm just going to try this because Rachel and Ellie are out of town. And if he comes back bad, like that story, I will bury him again. He said what he says is I'll put him back to sleep. Not thinking about what if he came back good. What are you going to tell everybody?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Exactly. He's not. He's not thinking straight. miracle He's not thinking straight But he's like Crazy thing happened I have a foolproof plan If things are bad It'll be fine
Starting point is 00:52:11 No one will know the wiser So he takes This coffin Up to the Indian burial ground Indian burial ground This is the first Where we get to the LEA
Starting point is 00:52:24 Scene So he takes up The fucking coffin And then we cut back to Chicago Yes Indian Bear Run. This is the first where we get to the uh, LEA scene. So he takes up the fucking coffin and then we cut back to Chicago. Yes. And Ellie says she had a terrible dream. Uh oh. Um, that uh, I don't know exactly that, but the gist of it is she had a
Starting point is 00:52:39 dream about this kid. She says daddy was there when his soul dis- dis- dis when his soul dis dis dis dis it she goes patch cow patch cow says daddy's gonna do something really bad patch cow is a good ghost sent to warn us because
Starting point is 00:52:55 daddy was there when his soul dis dis I can't remember um that's it uh and her mom's like there's no such thing as ghosts you're having a nightmare it's fine um and then she walks out of the room my mom does and we're back with uh lewis not quite we have uh rachel walks out of the room she's like patch cow what was she saying about patch cow i have that same question yeah and. And it becomes, you see, it's a very funny movie where they're like, we have to get this
Starting point is 00:53:27 in somehow, but we've got to make it very clear. She's like, Patch Cow? What's Patch Cow? And then Pascal's ghost appears and he goes, Pascal. My God. And she goes, Pascal. Could she have been saying Pascal? Why do I know that name?
Starting point is 00:53:43 He was there. He was there when his soul. And he goes, Discorporated. And she has this moment of realization and she's like, Oh, fuck. That's the kid who died.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I know it all. Runs down the stairs. Yes. So now we're back with Gage. Dead Gage and dad. And now the dad is carrying this whole coffin up to the Indian burial ground. Still daytime?
Starting point is 00:54:08 No, it's night. It's night. He looks at a rock pile. It's going to look pretty crazy if it's daytime. Also, he looks at this rock pile. There's like water and there's this rock pile down there. And the rock pile comes back. The rock pile comes to life in this serpent-esque...
Starting point is 00:54:20 Did you ever see the movie The Abyss? Like the water... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the rocks do that and it's's Ellie's or it's Rachel's dad. Right? I thought it was Judd. I thought it was Rachel's dad. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It was weird. He's like, you're a child killer. Oh, maybe it was. Yeah, it's Rachel's dad. You killer of children or whatever. Yeah. Right, right, right. And then Lewis does this.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Wipes his eyes. Yeah, very cartoony. Oh, like, what? What am I seeing? And then he looks back. Wipes his eyes. Yeah, very cartoony. Oh, like, what? What am I seeing? And then he looks back and then just rocks. He's like, everything's fine. Everything's fine. I'm going to go bury my dead kid again.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Everything's fine. So he buries Gage. So in this scene, we're cutting back and forth between he's going up to bury Gage. We're seeing him bury Gage. Cutting back, Rachel is furiously trying to get back to Maine. Right. And we have this very, again, the things I care about. She's
Starting point is 00:55:12 like running through the airport pre 9-11 world. She's running through the airport. The flight attendant is closing the door and it like won't latch. And Rachel's like, ah, and like squirts, like gets herself through the door and the flight attendant's like, you can't do that. She's like, yes, I can. And she's like ha and like squirts like gets herself through the door and the flight attendant's like you can't do that and she's like yes I can and she's like fine I'll
Starting point is 00:55:28 call the plane and she like the flight attendant calls the plane and they stop it and let her run on um but she doesn't happen anymore we see so basically by the time Gage is buried Rachel has made it back to Maine uh but at the airport she needs a rental
Starting point is 00:55:43 car she needs a rental car she needs a rental car and there's no rental cars available until however guess who guess who shows up
Starting point is 00:55:51 Pascal Victor fucking Pascal as it goes up as a ghost in the airport looking over Rachel's shoulder and he's like what about that
Starting point is 00:55:59 Studebaker yeah and then the girl goes actually wait we have this car available what about that Studebaker with the big scratch on the side she goes well actually we have this Studebaker with and then the girl goes Actually wait we have this car Available and he goes what about that Studebaker with the big Scratch on the side she goes well actually we have this
Starting point is 00:56:07 Studebaker with his big scratch on the side and Victor Pascal smiles Very satisfied He's having a lot of fun now What a helpful ghost and then she Goes I'll take it so she Gets this she gets this car and now She's fucking hightailing it down the road
Starting point is 00:56:23 And she gets A blowout which is Like crazy she gets this car and now she's fucking hightailing it down the road uh and she gets a blowout which is like crazy she gets this one blowout and her car spins out and like hits a tree crashes off like it was like a flat tire that turned into like a fucking nascar accident yeah um but pascal says it's trying to stop you it's like the power is trying to keep her from getting there in time. So then she flags down a trucker. A trucker. She flags down a trucker and the trucker
Starting point is 00:56:54 sees this, you know, hot 80s blonde and he's like, come on in, lady. Oh, no. It's fine. That part ends up being good. That's the scary part for me. That's some of the real life scary, but that's fine. That part ends up being good. That's the scary part for me. That's some of the real life scary, but that's fine. So she gets a ride.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Oh, wait. So at this point now, Lewis is like, Gage, come back to me, Gage. Lewis goes home. Oh, yeah. And he goes home and he puts his pickaxe in the basement
Starting point is 00:57:20 and he goes upstairs and he falls face first on his bed and he's fucking exhausted. He's tired. And then we cut back to the burial ground and we see the rocks starting to move so then we see we hear like little
Starting point is 00:57:32 footsteps and like laughing and stuff and we see just basically the shadow of his little shadow walking in the room and we see like really pale white hands and like a little suit and daddy you're like daddy and then what he does is now we
Starting point is 00:57:49 finally see gage's face and it's fucking creepy very creepy he has this big scar down like this his face this little two-year-old boy totally pale white face his hair is kind of combed and he's in his little funeral suit and then he like walks over to the the uh uh the closet and he pulls out his dad's doctor bag. Uh-oh. And he goes inside and sitting right on top of the doctor bag is a scalpel. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:58:12 In a little case. In a little case. So he grabs the scalpel. And guess where Gage goes? Up to see his dad? Up to see Judd Crandall. Oh. So he goes and Judd Crandall.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah, the dad has slept through all of that. The dad slept through all this. So he goes to Judd's house and Judd notices like little like napping on the porch. And he notices like these little muddy footprints and he goes inside and he hears
Starting point is 00:58:39 laughing and he goes, come, I want to play. Oh, let's play hide and seek. And then so Judd's like stuff comes tumbling on the steps in judge's house and judd goes walking up stage like it's dark also just so you know okay i got something for you and judd pulls out a little knife he's not you know he knows what's he's yeah he's like i'm gonna have to kill a little boy. So then he's upstairs in this room and he's looking because now Gage wants to play hide and seek.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And you hear like laughing and giggling and stuff like that. And does the phone ring? I don't, maybe not. No, Judd like bends down to look for him. And he's wearing slippers. He's wearing these very fashionable leather slippers. And all you see is a hand come off from under the bed with a scalpel and he's wearing slippers. He's wearing these very fashionable leather slippers and all you see is a hand come out from under the bed
Starting point is 00:59:27 with a scalpel and slices Achilles tendon. Ah! I don't like that. And Judd screams and he falls over and then Gage comes out and he goes,
Starting point is 00:59:36 with the scalpel in his hand and he starts walking really slow over to Judd and Judd, for some reason, even though he only has one Achilles, he can't move.
Starting point is 00:59:45 He's pretty old. And then Gage... He's pretty old. And then Gage swipes and slices him like the Joker, like across his mouth. Oh, no. I don't like that one bit. And then Judd falls on his back. And then Gage gets on top of him
Starting point is 00:59:55 and starts biting through his neck. Oh, my God. He rips his throat open. With his mouth? With his mouth. His little baby mouth. His little baby boy eats his neck. Ew!
Starting point is 01:00:03 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's really nasty and gnarly so is this the kid that's a good actor yes and he's he's super well she's seen it's super creepy so then uh and also why uh so rachel at this point gets home and she's like running through the house but then she starts having a flashback. Well, OK, so Rachel gets dropped off by the truck at her place. Oh, yeah. And Victor Pascal says he looks at her and he goes, I can't go any farther than this. This is where I leave you.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Why? And she goes, because the force won't let him through. Those are the fucking rules. And she goes, I think something like, I think it'll be OK. And he goes, I don't. And then the ghost says that. The ghost says that. So she's about to go into her house.
Starting point is 01:00:51 The reason why she came here, when she hears Zelda's voice, her nasty sister, calling her from Judd's place, she goes, Rachel. And then we hear Gage laughter. So she walks into Judd's house. She hears the combo of Zelda calling her and Gage laughter.
Starting point is 01:01:10 She starts going into this weird like psychotic. She's like in a state. She's in a state and she's like walking into the halls and it's like her kind of like back
Starting point is 01:01:17 in her childhood home. Yeah, the idea is like the power is now like messing with her and she's representing her fears and so she's sort of like has to
Starting point is 01:01:25 follow it up to the same room where we saw Judd just get killed by Gage and her sister's in there her sister's in the room she's like curled up in the corner in this like nasty nightgown I told you I'd come back for you and she goes I'm going to twist
Starting point is 01:01:42 your back like mine so you'll never get out of bed again. No. Oh, my God. And she just basically becomes overwhelmed and like puts her hand over her face and like closes her eyes. Rachel does. And when she opens them, Gage is there. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Evil Gage. We see her. She sees Gage and she's like, Gage. OK. And he's so Gage now We see her. She sees Gage and she's like, Gage. OK. And he's so Gage now is dressed in the outfit. That was the little boy in the picture. So remember, there's a creepy painting in her parents house. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Gage is dressed as a boy. Same outfit. He's like, don't know why. Don't know how. Don't know why. Who cares? Whatever. It's creepy.
Starting point is 01:02:19 But he looks like he's in like a little velvet blue outfit with a top hat and a tiny cane. Like a Dutch boy. Yeah. He's like, honestly, it's about like he's about like a little velvet blue outfit with a top hat and a tiny cane. Like a Dutch boy. Yeah. He's like, honestly, it's about like he's about to put on a little show. He has a tiny cane. A tiny cane. It's very cute. My interest is piqued.
Starting point is 01:02:37 But so she's just like, oh, my God, it's my son. And he goes, I brought you something, mommy. Oh, no. And he pulls out the scalpel. Oh, God. And he goes, I brought you something, mommy. Oh, no. And he pulls out the scalpel. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And he goes, I brought you something, Mommy. But she's really happy to see her son. And she opens her arms to him. Cut back to Lewis waking up in bed. Lewis wakes up in bed. So true, Elvis. And he sees the little muddy footprints. Yep. And he's like.
Starting point is 01:03:01 All over his bed. He's like. I did it. He's like, Gage. He's so happy. Uh-oh. And then he sees the footprints go down the steps. And he's like all over his bed he's like i did it he's like gage he's so happy and then he sees the footprints go down the steps and he's like oh no so he runs down the steps and he runs over to the judge's house well he sees the footsteps go to his medical bag and he sees
Starting point is 01:03:13 that the scalpel's gone yeah but then did he go to the basement again or like so first so he so he sees that so that then he goes to he takes falls of footprints downstairs then he gets a phone call it's a phone call it and it's And it's it's it's Rachel's dad. And he's like, like, totes cool that he fucking ruined the funeral. Yeah, we're good now. Like, he's like, did Rachel get there safely? And then he hears. And that's when he's like, fuck, Rachel's not here.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Rachel's not here. Shit. And then he goes over to Judd's house. Well, he hangs up. He very suspiciously. Hey, if a father in law calls and is like, hey, did your wife get in safe? And he's like, can't talk hangs up. He very suspiciously. Hey, if a father-in-law calls and is like, hey, did your wife get in safe?
Starting point is 01:03:46 And he's like, can't talk right now. It's like not looking good. But I mean, it won't matter. So he hangs up. Phone rings again. And he thinks it's the father-in-law. And he thinks he was like,
Starting point is 01:03:56 I told you I can't talk right now. Gage. It's Gage on the phone. How did Gage learn how to dial the phone? And Gage says, Daddy. And he's like, Gage? He's like, I want... He's like, I played...
Starting point is 01:04:08 First, I played with Judd. And then I played with Mommy. And now I want to play with you. Oh, no. I know. And he goes, what did you do? And Gage laughs. And he goes, what did you do?
Starting point is 01:04:22 Oh, boy. So he runs over to Judd's. After filling several syringes with a bunch of morphine? Yeah, some kind of a sedative. Yeah, he fills a bunch of syringes with, I would say, a lethal amount of sedatives. And then he goes outside and first he sees the cat. So he grabs Church and he fucking shoots. And I have a fucking fun fact about this one.
Starting point is 01:04:50 So he shoots the cat in the neck with this fucking like syringe and then the cat's like dead they actually had a veterinarian on set sedate a real cat for that scene i swear to god so it's like when you see this cat it's like the cat is like out you can see it's like a real cat it's like breathing and stuff But they actually had They had a real vet There That sedated the cat On set So it looked real Which it was
Starting point is 01:05:09 Honestly Really good cat performance And I know that sounds like I'm making a joke The cat is really good I read that It was like six different cats Okay all the cats are good
Starting point is 01:05:18 All the cats are great All the cats are good And they were each trained To do a different thing So they had this Really special specialty It's like Cause the first cat Like he peeled off when Church got hit by the truck.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It was like, that's obviously a fake fucking cat. Oh, yeah. But this was a real cat. But this cat was like, it was fucking looped. I was like, did they, like, fucking put this cat down? Did they kill the cat for this movie? I was like, maybe this shit was legal in the 80s, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:38 They did crazy shit. They did do crazy shit. I think it's honestly crazy that they legitimately put a cat to sleep for a take. Stephen King is committed to the truth. Yeah, but so he puts, he kills Church. He kills Church and then he goes over to the house and he's looking for Gage. And the house is like
Starting point is 01:05:53 it's like turned swampy and like. It's like mossy, which is another throwback. It's a very Stephen King-y thing. In the Korean Creepshow, we had this whole thing about moss that takes over a house. It's another little Stephen King-y thing. It's over our house. It's another little. It's become very surreal. It's like in a matter of hours.
Starting point is 01:06:09 It's like this. The magic is taking over. He sees Rachel's bag too at the doorstep. So he's like, oh no. So he goes upstairs and he hears, you know, laughing and stuff and like little he hears little like a like little kids running across the floor and stuff. He sees Judd's corpse. Well, he finds Judd's corpse. There's like a sheet and he pulls the sheet over and Judd's dead. And then he
Starting point is 01:06:30 he's like walking in the hallway and Rachel's body falls and she's hung. Which, how did Gage do that? I don't know. Wow. And then he sees Gage and he says, Daddy? Gage leaps at him from the open attic little trap door oh no with a with the
Starting point is 01:06:47 scalpel in hand and it's literally the funniest fight scene because it's obviously a doll yeah and then it's like put this doll they like velcroed a doll to a guy and it's a scene of an actor just like running around trying to get this doll off his back and then a bunch of just like close-up shots of a knife going into a body that are clearly not, you know, but he gets stabbed a fuck ton. A lot. So then he's like on the ground and then he goes to take out a syringe and then the syringe gets knocked down the stairs. Oh no. And then
Starting point is 01:07:13 he says, Gage. And Gage goes, again with the scalpel. And Gage also bites him again at some point and takes some skin out. He's like super Gage like bites at his heart and like pulls He loves to bite. Yeah. So and then at some point he's sitting
Starting point is 01:07:29 there and he goes Gage and he like he's going to show Gage affection. Yeah. And so Gage starts walking up to him and he goes Gage my Gage and Gage gets close and his dad sticks him in the neck. He had another syringe. Another syringe sticks him in the neck and Gage goes ah. It is this syringe. Another syringe sticks him in the neck. And Gage goes, ah!
Starting point is 01:07:45 It is this. Great acting. I want to show you guys this scene because it is so sad too because he's like a little evil demon but he looks like a two-year-old in this moment. But the best line, the best line,
Starting point is 01:07:56 the dad takes the syringe out and Gage takes a step back and he goes, no fair. He's like a- And walks away. Yeah, he goes, no fair.
Starting point is 01:08:04 He like starts, so oh my God, this, I'm like getting, this movie's stupid this movie's cheesy and this part happened i like have the chills and he's like goes like oh and like gets all pouty and like looks like he's gonna cry and like back and he's also like getting sedated so he's like sort of stumbling he just goes no and then as he's back into the hall he trips over something and like falls and hits his head. The real little kid. It looks, yeah. It looks great.
Starting point is 01:08:28 For sure an accident, but like they kept it in the film. He falls and hits his head. And then he's like sitting there and he's like, he goes to sleep. So then Lewis brings in the fucking gasoline. Yeah. And lights on fire. But not before he takes the body of his wife. He takes Rachel's body.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Oh, God. Come on. Is this guy not learning any lessons? No. Well, he's way crazy by now. So he lights this entire fucking craftsman house on fire. Like this beautiful. This beautiful craftsman.
Starting point is 01:08:56 This beautiful craftsman on fire. You hate to see it. You hate to see it. And it burns all night long. Like he buries the wife in the cemetery. Well, Pascal shows up one more time as he's walking out with Rachel's body and he's like my dude
Starting point is 01:09:10 stop this he's like I know things are bad but don't make it worse yeah and he goes it's gonna be different this time he goes Gage was dead too long he's like she just died it'll be fine yeah that's the logic so that's not how it works. So he he buries the wife
Starting point is 01:09:28 and now he like he he's he goes to sleep and he like waits up for her. He's very crazy. He gets the fridge. He's like playing cards with him across across the across the street.
Starting point is 01:09:41 This house has been is now smoldering. It's like no firemen. No, nothing. There's nobody outering. It's like no firemen, no nothing. There's nobody out here. No place, nothing. Right. And then you hear the door start to open.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Oh. And you see this muddy sock come in and then like a high-heeled shoe. It's like she has one shoe on. Oh, no. And he gets up and he's like, Rachel, I'm getting like nauseous thinking about this. And it's so unnecessary this moment. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:10:07 So he like, and then Rachel comes in and her head is cracked open and her eye is literally just gushing pus. Oh my God. Like spurting pus. Also like she was hung.
Starting point is 01:10:16 When did this happen? I don't know. But it's awful. And then he sees her and he gets up and he walks up to her and they start making out like the biggest
Starting point is 01:10:26 tongue fucking like sloppy wet kiss while her eyes oozing pus and you know how bad they smell because they all smell bad. He's crazy. He's fully crazy now. Yeah. And then as they're making out like full on making out with this dead smelly zombie, you see her
Starting point is 01:10:41 hand reach down on the table and pick up a chef's knife and it fades out you just hear so she fucking killed him and that's the movie wow wow wow wow what's the moral of the story learn your lessons sometimes
Starting point is 01:10:58 death is better that's the moral that's that is absolutely the moral of the story oh my god I love I love that it ended on a make out like that that's fun when she That is absolutely the moral of the story. Oh, my God. I love that it ended on a make out like that. That's fun. When she, because you know she's going to come back in, right? That's fucking hot.
Starting point is 01:11:18 When her eye was doing that, I wish you guys could, like, it made no sense that her eye was doing that. It was super, super weird. She was so nasty. What a crazy ending. They go right at it. It is a crazy ending. But I like at it. It is a crazy ending. But I like that ending. I'm happy.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I'm here for the ending. He definitely, like, thank God he died, right? Like, thank fucking God. What happened to her? Yeah, she's out murdering. She's left to terrorize the town. Yeah, she's out to terrorize the town. There needs to be a pet cemetery, too.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Also, like, is there? I was going to say there probably is. There probably is. Have you seen it? I have not. I don't know what happens in it I have questions I have all of the questions
Starting point is 01:11:48 for this there was a remake came out 30 years later came out last year 30 years after the original I'm going to watch that one yeah I'm interested too I
Starting point is 01:11:55 I was upset that I had to watch this but now I'm sort of glad that I did so look at you getting braver
Starting point is 01:12:03 I am getting braver I'm so proud I'm getting bra glad that I did. Look at you getting braver. I am getting braver. I'm so proud. I'm getting braver. So I don't know. Not my favorite kind of film, though, I must say. Sure. Sure, sure, sure. Sounds like there's some pretty gross stuff in there.
Starting point is 01:12:15 There's some pretty gross stuff. It's some pretty upsetting. The Achilles tendon. No, that's bad. That is, oof, ow. And again, that scene at the end with Gage is like devastating. Yeah. We did it, guys.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Thank you so much. My pleasure. You did an amazing job. It was a real wild ride. I kind of want to watch it. I'll probably watch it. It's free on Amazon Prime. Get it while it's hot. I think for this movie
Starting point is 01:12:45 We should do the old Judd voice Sign off We say Just goodbye is what we say But let's try to Will you give us a Judd Crandall Goodbye for us Jonathan
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