Too Scary; Didn't Watch - PET SEMATARY with Jonathan Sadowski
Episode Date: January 22, 2020A cursed burial ground, a dad who just doesn't learn his lessons, and an adorable little boy with the cool-as-hell name 'Gage Creed' - we're recapping Mary Lambert's 1989 film Pet Sematary! J...onathan Sadowski (Young & Hungry, Chernobyl Diaries, Shookum Hills) joins us to talk about this truly insane movie. Don't shilly-shally, join us as we find out why sometimes dead is better! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is Emily. Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi, everyone.
Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to
watch for themselves.
I'm Emily. I'm scared. I to watch for themselves. I'm Emily.
I'm scared.
I'm Henley and I'm scared.
I'm Sammy and I am brave.
Hell yeah.
Anything scary happen to us this week?
I got really sick.
I had a sinus infection.
I got it the same day my mom came in town.
She landed, got to my apartment and I was like in bed so sick. And she said it looked like a thousand bees had stung my face because my face was so swollen.
That's very nice.
That's what happened to me.
That's pretty scary.
I had a scary thing, which made me very mad.
I was at Vons and the person in front of me in line
they asked him paper or plastic and he said plastic other people care about the environment
so that i don't have to shut up and it made me so mad and i was buying bamboo toilet paper you
guys know that i prefer my bamboo toilet paper because it uses 136th the amount of water.
136th the amount of water.
I learned that from you. Yes. Anyways,
and then he like looked over at that and was like,
see, this lady's buying bamboo toilet paper.
He brought you into it? And I was like, ooh, you
do not want to be in this
conversation. How old was this man? And I just gave him
a real death stare.
I would say mid-twenties.
Oh, no.
I was really hoping it was going to be like 70.
No, I know. That's what was extra scary about it.
I was like, I thought the younger generation
that's our same generation, I guess.
I think technically. How long is the generation?
I don't know. Whatever.
Yeah, I thought young people were
a little more environmentally
conscious, but I guess not. So, if you're
listening, for my peace of mind, please don't use plastic bags. Bring your own bag to the grocery store. It's
very easy.
And follow Sammy on Instagram and you can get lots of sustainable facts on Sundays.
Easy changes. Easy changes.
Easy changes.
This is the only planet we got, people.
That's it.
It is.
Everything is on fire for real.
Yep.
Great.
My thing is, well, it's basically just an update because this is my podcast and I can
talk about what I want.
Yeah.
Hell yeah, you can.
My sister had a baby this week.
You're an aunt.
I'm an aunt for the first time.
I'm very excited.
And it is scary in that life is terrifying
and I just
it's my only sister. It's her
first kid. I haven't met
him yet
but I am so
every minute of every day I want to know what he's doing and it's
like a very strange and scary.
That's so cute.
Every day I'm like I haven't gotten a picture yet.
I need a picture but he's doing the exact same thing.
It's like he's not doing anything.
There are no updates, but I am really obsessed and it's cool.
That photo of him staring deeply into your sister's eyes, though, and her staring back
is he really is perfect.
He's very cute.
He's very cute and sweet.
And I mean, it's cool.
It's fucking so cool.
Wow.
You're going to be a really cool aunt.
Thank you so much. I forgot Henley says aunt.
Aunt, yes!
It's pronounced aunt.
The correct pronunciation is aunt.
Thank you.
I'm very excited about it.
Very excited about it.
Well, I also was sort of brave
this week because I watched the movie.
Yes, you did. You's getting braver every day.
Braver every day.
I did have a realization this week where I was like, so there I do want to be able to
watch more scary movies.
I'm like brave.
Brave.
Curious is what we've what we said before.
Yep.
But there are some movies that I never I never want to want to see.
Sure.
You don't want to change too much
I don't want to change too much
No but there are some movies
So the movie I'm thinking of which maybe we'll have to do in the podcast
Saint Maud which we watched the trailer for together
Oh
Last week where I don't
You don't even want to want to see that
I want to see that so bad
No because I don't know what kind of person I would be if I did
No I just I think I like
conjuring
scary, like I'm just going to be
scared, I'm interested in that
but then there's a whole other
crop of scary movies that are
deeply upsetting
like Hereditary or something
like Hereditary
I don't think I ever need to do that.
You know what I mean?
Well, there's like a realm of horror that's fantasy, which is kind of fun to live in for
a second.
And then there's the realm of horror, which is playing off of true real, real world, real
world life.
Yeah, that's a good distinction.
That's probably that is probably it.
Good job, Henley.
Thank you.
This week's movie
is of the supernatural variety it is pet cemetery the original from 1989 based off a stephen king
novel screenplay written by stephen king boo um directed by mary lambert starring dale midkiff fred gwynn denise crosby brad greenquist miko
hughes and blaise bertolo oh and a really cool cat uh henley you'll be happy there's a cat oh I'm into it. And to talk about our movie this week, we have he is a an actor, a producer, a writer,
a magician.
You've seen him all over the place, young and hungry.
He's in a horror movie himself, which we'll probably make him talk about.
Welcome, Jonathan Sadowski.
Hello, Jonathan. how are you?
Lovely
You're lovely great
Good to be here on the old pod
On the old pod
On the old pod
Did anything scary happen to you this week Jonathan?
Every day
Every day
A dog almost shit on my foot when I was fishing today
He told me to stop gentrifying Echo Park
Oh that's a lot of things at once
My fiance got into a car accident
Oh no
She has the whiplash
Oh no
That's the worst
What else happened
My dog always growls at shit in the middle of the night
Oh that's spooky
Yeah I don't like that
My cats just like stare at a spot on the wall
And I don't like that
Yeah no
Pets are scary sometimes
We have a lot of wild animals where I live.
So there's like lots of shit always running around the yard.
And Moxie is like a total spaz.
So she's always chasing.
Yeah.
She can protect you if it came down to it.
Probably.
Oh, she's a ruthless killer.
Yeah.
She's a big she's a big pity.
Have you guys seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
I hate it.
I watched it last night.
I thought it was the worst movie of the year.
I also hated it.
And I'm happy to find someone else
Literally almost walked out
I have friends in the film
And I was like
I am so sorry
I guess I didn't
I liked it
Let me tell you why
Go on
Finish your story first
Oh no
I was just referencing
Something about a dog
Referencing Brad Pitt's dog
In the film
Yes yes
Which I would love to have a dog
I could go
And it would just
Rip throats
Rip throats for me
It's fucking awesome No let's just talk about this For one second Because if that script Oh boy I would love to have a dog. I could go and it would just rip throats. Rip throats for me.
It's fucking awesome.
No, let's just talk about this for one second.
Because if that script came into anybody's desk without Quentin Tarantino's name on it,
it would be laughed out of the business.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not wrong.
And it was nominated for best screenplay, which is horse shit.
That's how this whole business we call the show works, my friend.
Bullshit.
It's all politics.
It's all bullshit.
Yeah, there's lots of scary stuff to happen.
But also, thank you for having me on the podcast.
And I got to watch one of my favorite scary movies that I haven't seen since I was a kid.
Oh, that's exciting.
Being a big horror fanatic,
this film scared all the poop out of me.
When I was...
How old was I?
I was nine when I saw this movie.
Oh, that's young to watch this.
Literally.
Oh, that's...
Yeah, that's too young.
I saw this movie...
I might have been 10
because I saw it on VHS when it came out.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Have you always been a horror fanatic?
Huge.
Really?
Ever since you were a little kid?
Since I was a little kid.
I loved horror films.
I remember watching Return of the Living Dead and having to sleep with my mom for a fucking
week.
And then, but like Jason, Freddie, like I went through the whole Nightmare on Elm Street
phase.
I actually got to be a part of the Friday the 13th franchise out here.
Oh, cool.
That's awesome.
I did a film called Chernobyl Diaries as well.
Another scary one.
That sounds scary.
I remember that.
I mean, good things aren't happening in Chernobyl, so one can only imagine.
It's a scary place.
Yikes.
I did a film called Shookum Hills, which will be out this year.
Is it scary?
Yeah.
Another one.
Ooh.
I also, I'm just, I love, I love being scared.
Loved Halloween.
Love Halloween. The holiday and the movie. Yeah just I love I love being scared loved Halloween love Halloween the holiday and the movie
but
yeah I love it like I remember when I was
doing Young and Hungry I actually reached
out to the producers of Ghost Hunters
and I was like oh my god
I was like I want to I want to come and be
a guest hunter and they're like let's do it so I flew
to Delaware and spent the night in a haunted museum
like I'm Jonathan
Sadowski and I'm brave.
There we go.
Amazing.
Seriously brave.
Oh my God.
Did anything spooky happen in the museum?
Oh yeah.
I talked to a dead little boy and it was.
What?
Oh yeah.
No, you didn't.
Don't tell Sammy that because she is so scared of ghosts and really believes in them.
I love ghosts.
I have a very, very
deeply personal relationship with the
spirit world. Oh my God.
I am like a conduit. It's crazy.
Really? It's crazy. You should have your
own show, Ghost Hunters. It's crazy.
My buddy Jason Hawes, who created Ghost Hunters,
he hit me up.
Ghost Hunters, the new Ghost Hunters show on Travel
Channel. It's like the highest rated show
ever. Yeah. And he's like, dude, he's like, highest rated show ever. Yeah. Hey, kudos to your friend.
And he's like, dude, he's like, we want you to come back.
And I was like, fuck yeah.
Oh, cool.
Do it.
I was like, where are we hunting, dude?
Oh my God.
Yeah, where are we hunting?
Where are we hunting?
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cheers should we do some trivia on this movie i don't have much but i have a i have a few little
things one which is is fun and relevant to this podcast Which is
A casting what if we love a casting
What if yeah the
Role of Lewis Creed
Main character ish
The first choice was Bruce Campbell
Oh did he miss
Out was Bruce Campbell we love Bruce
Dead
Another fun fact yeah Ellie
Creed uh-huh it's actually played by twins.
Yes, and my other
fun fact is that
Miko, who plays
Gage, is not
played by twins. He's like two. He's super
young. And he's super good. He's so
good. There's a two-year-old
who's good? He's
so fucking good. It's crazy.
What does that mean? He's almost three. He's probably three, good he's so fucking good it's crazy what does that mean he's almost three he's
probably three but he's like at least he's three okay so he's okay not impressive he's a little
boy in kindergarten cop who goes boys have penises oh my god i love that vaginas love that
that's so good and so it's way cheaper and way easier to have twins when they're kids right because you can swap them out
twins
but the director
Mary Lambert
like fought the studio and was
like we have to have this kid he's so good
and he truly is though it's quite crazy
he's so good oh there's a female
director there's a female director Mary Lambert
interesting okay
okay but those are my only
trivias.
Those are my only
trivias.
I have one that kind of
is also relevant to our
podcast.
Stephen King said that
Pet Sematary is the only
book he's ever written
that scared him.
Boo.
What am I missing?
We need Stephen King.
Okay.
We have a longstanding beef with Stephen King. The podcast has a We need Stephen King. Okay. We have a long-standing beef with Stephen King.
The podcast has a feud with Stephen King.
I was like, I'm like picking up on something here.
What am I missing?
Yeah, very not subtle.
I booed when I said his name.
We don't love him.
We don't love him.
I don't hate him, but I'm...
He's...
Yeah, I don't know.
It's in jest.
It is more fun.
It's more in jest.
It's more in joke
than anything else.
I will say,
he does have a brief,
brief cameo in this film
and is like,
it's so stupid
and unnecessary.
He does cameos
in most of this stuff.
Yeah,
I hated it.
He did a creep show
in the 80s.
He did a cameo
in a creep show.
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Yeah,
he does lots of that stuff.
This is also the first movie
that he,
he was like the hippest priest
ever at the funeral. Oh my God, it's so stupid. It's so like, I'm movie that he He was like the hippest priest ever at the funeral
Oh my god it's so stupid
It's so like I'm Stephen King
He looked like a fucking college TA
It's like and go in peace
I think his story is actually
Incredibly inspiring and interesting
You know
How they were living in like
Basically poverty him and his wife
And then he got his first Novel or story published and they were sent Like $5 poverty Him and his wife and then he got His first novel or story
Published and they were sent like $5,000
And it was like ma
And then they became literal billionaires
Also it's fun that he wrote so much
Stuff while he was super coked out
Fuck yeah
How else are you going to get all that work done
That's why they're 1200 pages long
The books are long
Before Adderall
Yeah just had to do Coke.
What can you do?
Coke, apparently.
Coke, yeah.
Should we watch the trailer?
Do we think that this is one that we could watch?
I think we should.
The trailer for?
It's an 80s trailer, Hen, so I think we could do it.
Yeah, I'll watch it.
Okay.
What is this place?
I brought you here to bury Alan's cat.
Daddy, is Church all right?
Why, Judd?
I have no reason.
I dreamed he got hit by a car and you and Mr. Crandall buried him in the pet cemetery.
What did we do tonight, Judd?
What we did, Lois, was a secret.
Paramount Pictures presents Stephen King's all-time best-selling tale of horror
pet cemetery they make that look like that's a movie starring stephen king they really do
and the scene that they show in the trailer he it's literally like they showed all of it in the
he's like it's so quick he's like not the movie. Okay, I will quickly go through the characters, and then I'll pass it off to you, Jonathan,
and you get us started.
We have the Creed family.
Dr. Louis Creed, his wife, Rachel, their daughter, Ellie, and their son, Gage.
Ellie's probably four or five.
Gage is two or three?
I'd say six-ish.
Six-ish?
Five, six?
Mm-hmm.
Their neighbor, Judd Crandall.
We also have Victor Pascal.
Oh, my God.
Missy Dandridge.
Rachel's parents make an appearance.
And we have the cat, cat Winston Churchill who goes by Church
oh great name for a cat
name for a cat one of the trivia was a lot of people
think that he is a Russian blue he's not
he's a British short hair if anyone's wondering
okay thank you for carrying that up
British short
hair okay are we ready oh I can't
wait to hear every ladies and gentlemen
let's do it about it
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The year was 1989.
Oh, boy.
The Creed family relocated to Maine.
See, Dr. Lewis Creed became the doctor at the new university.
Oh.
Relocates his family there.
They meet this guy, Judd Crandall, who is the neighbor from across the street. was creed became the doctor at the new university oh relocates his family there they meet uh this
guy judd crandall who is the neighbor from across the street um first thing you notice when they get
this beautiful old house is this road that these trucks fly down these roads like huge oil oil
takers like weird but it's just like this this kind of pass and they just they always fly down
these roads okay that's gonna come and
says
you might want to be careful because he'll
wind up in the bat seminar
oh no that does
happen so um spelled
with an s yes because kids
do it yeah so uh john
crandall's been living there since like the 1920s
he grew up there his whole life uh
little ellie realizes that as they're kind of checking out the house,
there's this little path behind the house.
And she's like, I wonder what's going on there.
Daddy, daddy, there's a path.
Oh, and she's also on a tire swing that snaps for no reason.
Well, the reason is, I mean, I also was like, what?
So she's on a tire swing swinging around.
She falls and starts crying.
As that, so the parents go to her, gauge the little toddler.
They're distracted and he starts wandering out towards the road. as that. So the parents go to her, gauge the little toddler. Oh, yeah.
They're distracted and he starts wandering out
towards the road.
Judd grabs him
and that's when he's like,
careful this road,
there's so many trucks.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So it's a little bit
of foreshadowing.
Then she notices
this whole thing
and Judd says,
oh, we'll have to explore
some other time.
Yeah, I'll tell you
where it goes later.
So next thing we know,
it's first day of school.
Okay. And Dr. Creed goes to school
And the
First thing that happens is these college
Kids come oh my god did I miss something
No no no they're only this weirdest
Moment that again I'm so this is why I'm bad
At being the person who watches the movie because the things that
Stick with me are like not the important parts of the movie
But so they go so Jed
Tells them to get their cat fixed.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
So when they're first there, he's like he gets he has like a beer on the porch with
Lewis and he's like, we should get your cat fixed.
That path goes to the pet cemetery.
A lot of animals die here because of the road.
So you should get your cat fixed.
Fixed cat won't wander.
Yeah.
Well, fixed cat won't wander across the road.
Across the road
And so
Before his first the first day of school
Whatever he's taking the cat to get
Fixed and the
Ma the little girl is her cat
Church is her cat she loves him very much
And she's like daddy is anything gonna happen to him
Promise me that nothing's gonna happen when we
Go to get him fixed and he like hesitates a beat he doesn't want
To say that everything will definitely be fine
He's a doctor you know
And the mom goes
I wrote it down because it really
She said tell her everything's going to be fine yeah she said
Don't
Don't shilly shally lewis
Give the little girl a promise
It's so weird
It's so weird The way she talks to him shilly
shally don't give the little girl a promise and he goes i promise and he like glowers
our and then also is this the moment too where she's like sitting up she comes she like wakes
up and she comes and sits on her dad's lap and she's like daddy she's like what if what
if god takes church before and he's like you know, sometimes cats get all lazy.
But it's not God's cat.
It's my cat.
God made his own cat.
I don't want church to die.
Yeah, there's a lot of weird, like, well, it's weird.
So Dr. Creed goes to school.
Okay.
Which is, like, amazing because this school has its own ER, apparently.
Yeah, he's like the university doctor.
And he's, like like in a lab coat.
It's a full-on hospital, which makes it look
like that. So anyway, this group of college kids
come with this blanket and laying on this blanket
like a stretcher is this kid with
half of his head smashed off.
That's the first thing that enters frame.
It's just like this brains out of this guy's
head. It is abrupt.
Meet Victor Pascoe.
Victor Pascoe. He was hit by acoe he was hit by a truck he was
hit by a truck on one of the roads uh-oh uh he is anyone gonna do anything about these roads nobody's
gonna do a damn thing build a bridge the year was 1989 we're not doing a damn thing about the roads
so uh they he's like there's like all these people it's pandemonium and and dr creed has this uh this
poor son of a bitch on the table and he takes out an oxygen pump and he's pumping it
and closes the curtains and everybody leaves and he's like
ugh. He tried his
best but there was nothing to be done.
Then here's the
fucking kicker.
Louis Creed
is sitting there just staring at this dead kid
and he goes, wait, what's the wife's
name? Rachel? Rachel. He goes,
I told Rachel i wasn't expecting
anything more than a sprained ankle on my first day and he's staring look at this guy's brain
falling out of his head and then out of nowhere the kid the kid like pops away yeah and like
he puts his arm on his shoulder it's a good jump scare and uh and spits blood in his face
and it's like lots of blood in the face he spits constantly he's like not safe and it's
like lots of blood in the face and the doctor handled it like a fucking champ yeah like he
didn't like freak out or anything he was just like he's just like how are you alive like literally
that's like what he says to this guy yeah he's just very shocked he's i mean the guy was dead
he was dead yeah and then uh the next thing he knows he looks back and the guy's dead again
he says something first but what does he say he says a and the guy's dead again. He says something first. But what does he say?
He says a thing.
Here's why partially I was like, Stephen King?
The fuck? Don't go there.
Not yet.
His dying words are
the soil
of... Also, this guy is chewing
the scenery. He does it the whole movie.
He's loving this role.
The soil of
a man's heart is stonier
Lewis. The fuck does that
mean? What does that mean? He says that
but but Lewis
goes, how'd you know my name? And then
he goes, yeah, that's literally that's like like
there's a dead guy with half his head fucking off
with his hand on your shoulder just cough blood in your face
and the question you ask him is how did
you know my name and then
he and then he starts to he starts dying
again he goes I'll come to
you and he's smiling and then
he's dead and then he's dead again oh
what the next scene Lewis
the next scene Lewis is asleep in bed and
guess who appears in as an
apparition in his doorway oh
Victor fucking Pascal
fucking Pascal head still all messed up?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, God.
If anything, he looks worse.
Oh, nasty.
But he is wearing
an unzipped hoodie
and little tiny red shorts.
I was going to say,
I noticed the shorts too
and he has like these like...
It's absurd.
It's absurd.
These cute little Vans on.
Yeah, he's like
a little sporty guy.
Yeah.
With half a head.
And he goes,
follow me, Victor. And he's's like don't keep me waiting victor
or lewis yeah or lewis yeah yeah and this is also just the thing about this actor and they probably
told him to do whatever the ghost thing is very 80s but he like backs out of frame he's like come
with me he's like don't, he's being very creepy.
I mean, it's a ghost, but he's also like, come on, you gotta come with me.
So then Victor follows him, as it were.
As you do.
And he follows him down to the basement.
Don't do that.
Right?
Oh, the basement is always a bad idea.
The basement, but then essentially just to get out of the house.
It's out of the house.
They go down the path.
They go down the path to the pet cemetery.
So they get to the pet cemetery and Victor, the ghost, says to Lewis, he goes, this is
the place where the dead speak, which is something that Judd said earlier when he showed them
the pet cemetery.
Oh, because they all went to the pet cemetery.
I forgot that part.
They took a family trip to the pet cemetery early on before they got church fixed, which
is why Ellie was like, I don't want to die.
And then, yeah, they also show off like a goldfish and then they show off uh uh judd's dog yeah so we've seen the pet
cemetery before he takes him back there uh he goes this is place where the dead speak and then he
points his hand up and he goes don't what does he say he says don't go there yeah basically like
uh oh he tells him do not go to the place where the dead
walk and he points
basically just beyond the pet cemetery it glows
bright blue because it's the 80s
and um and then he says
the barrier was not meant
to be crossed and then was this
the point where like victor was like
lewis is like why are you here
and he's like you were as good as dead when
you came to me yeah he's like, you were as good as dead when you came to me. Yeah, he thinks that he's being haunted.
And he's dead, he's being haunted.
And then Victor says, well, you helped me, so I'm going to help you.
Yeah, so he's a good ghost.
He's a good ghost.
He's just being so creepy and awful.
He can't help it.
It's Victor.
He can't help it.
He's a weirdo.
You get the sense that he was a weirdo in life, too.
Yeah.
All right.
So we wake up.
He wakes up in the morning.
It was a dream.
It was all a dream. And it's Thanksgiving. Except it wasn't in the morning. It was a dream. It was all a dream.
And it's Thanksgiving.
Except it wasn't.
He thinks his dream pulls back the covers and his feet are covered in the like nastiest,
craziest mud from the cemetery.
It's like nobody's feet would ever get muddy in that way.
It's crazy.
I think it's a clue.
What actually happened.
Was the family gone already at that point? They left for
Chicago for Thanksgiving. No, now they're
about to leave. So Ellie and
Rachel are about to leave for Chicago. And Gage.
And Gage for Thanksgiving.
Dr. Louis Creed doesn't go over
because there's a little riff in the family. Parents don't
like him. Parents don't like him. And he goes, quote,
the dad said, Louis, you'll never be
one of us.
A little rich snobbery wow and he's like a hot doctor wait why don't they like look if we're gonna put a hot or not poll we always talk about who's hot in these movies um
you got the fever for the creed i mean absolutely not he's you got the fever you want dr creed to cure your
fever oh boy so a hot doctor is not good enough for this family for rachel not good enough for
rachel so uh high standards and by the way rachel at this point not a lot to do her character not
a lot to do just that one great line line. Just that one perfect line. Delivered excellently.
What was it? Shilly-shally?
Don't shilly-shally.
Give the little girl a promise.
Yeah. She hasn't had a lot to do.
And you know her rich parents taught her that word.
Yeah.
So the family goes to Chicago to visit
the in-laws.
And we see
Judd. And Judd comes around and goes
oh Louis I think
you might want to come over here there's a dead
cat on my lawn
so Louis goes over there and he
looks down and sure enough
Church has fucking been hit by a truck
he's been hit by a truck as we knew he would
hit by a truck here's the weird thing
the truck he's on the lawn
he must have gotten hit
and sort of wandered,
catapulted.
Yeah.
So,
Who are these truck drivers?
They're all smacked out
on meth and
Why is no one
doing anything about it?
They're all smacked out
on meth.
This is,
I think it's like
pretty middle of nowhere Maine.
Like no one's like
monitoring this.
There's literally,
there are two houses
on this road
through like
the rural landscape.
Who I'm mad at
is the realtor.
Yeah. Why do you let a family buy a house on this road through like the rural landscape. Who I'm mad at is the realtor. Yeah.
Why do you let a family buy a house on this road?
Yeah.
Anyway.
Dr. Lewis Creed decides to peel church off the lawn like Velcro.
Yeah.
Peel, peel, peel.
Peels him off the lawn like Velcro.
Cat is rigor mortis.
Ooh.
And then he puts him in a garbage bag.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And he and Lewis now is having this, you know, crisis where he's like, oh, fuck, what am
I going to tell Ellie?
Ellie just freaked out about this.
Ellie just called me and was like, how's church?
She's obsessed with church.
And Judd goes, well, I got somewhere we can take charge.
The Pet Sematary?
To the Pet fucking Cemetery.
Oh, no.
So they take pickaxes.
Yeah.
So he gets this giant shovel and just go.
And they've been there for a few months now, I guess.
But they're not great.
I don't think they know each other that well.
And he just goes, follow me and walks.
They go to this.
Here's the other thing.
They go to this pet cemetery and they have to crawl over this giant barricade of trees
and stuff.
Well, because they go to the point where the pet cemetery ends that the blue part that
Victor said, don't go there.
Don't go where the dead walk. So now they're going where the dead walk. So they go to this point where the pet cemetery ends that the blue part that Victor said, don't go there. Don't go where the dead walk.
So now they're going where the dead walk.
So they go to this Indian burial ground.
But to get there, it's a fucking hike.
Now, mind you, up mountains and Judd is like 90 and he smokes a pack of reds a day.
He's constantly smoking.
He's like lighting one with the next.
He's like lighting.
Do you see any lights matches with this thumbtip and shit?
Oh, yeah.
He's like constantly smoking.
So he's like, he's like, he's like at the top of the fucking peak and he's like come on lois like it's not too much farther
and he's carrying a dead cat in a trash bag also like he kept like watching him like throw it on
a rock while he climbs up and he keeps on saying just a little bit farther and then lewis screams
like you said that an hour ago and he's like i made it this time and this whole time lewis we
never hear lewis god, what are we doing?
Yeah. Just following this
guy randomly into the abyss. So
they get to this Indian burial ground.
It's like at the top of a cliff. It's like this
circle with a... It looks kind of like
a pentagram. It really does. Like it built
in rock sort of on this. Oh, that was in the trailer.
Yeah. On this cliff. So then
and now they're going to bury church. But
Judd tells him, you gotta bury your own. Yeah, I'd help you, but you gotta bury church, but Judd tells him, you got to bury your own.
Yeah, I'd help you,
but you got to bury your own.
This guy does not seem
like we should trust him.
So.
And yet we are.
So they dig,
which takes a very long time.
Very long time.
All the way till the sun goes down.
They dig this little hole
for a fucking cat.
A little cat grave.
And then they go home.
And Ellie's like,
how's church? Well, this is
Judd says, now
Lewis, when they ask, don't
tell them what we did here.
And he's like, what did we just do?
What did we do?
Why the fuck did I do this? And Judd goes,
what we did was a secret.
Oh no. What we did was a secret thing
and this is the part that I had to put subtitles on because I couldn't
understand a damn word he said, but this
is important. He says something like
this secret thing.
They say women are going to keep a secret, but
they've never seen into a man's heart. Also, what
the fuck does that mean? Then he goes, a man's
heart, Louis, is stonier.
And Louis goes like, whoa, I've heard that before.
Uh-oh, bum-bum-bumcoe victor pascoe said that still we've heard it repeated what does it mean
it means nothing i don't know but they both said it and that's bad cut to the next day
and they see uh the guy what is the fucking he's like, he's like goes to his basement or something.
Yeah.
Lewis is like breaking some leaves and he goes back and he goes back in.
And who is sitting there staring at him with glowing eyes?
Church.
Fucking church.
And church.
How he meows in this like like this like bad cat sound.
I don't like that.
And what does he do is swipes and cuts his fucking face yeah
so church
like meows at him so he tries
to he like gets church he lures church
over and it's like this is fucking crazy
gets church picks him up earlier we saw him
pick church up by the way we saw got some good
moments with church very sweet cat
he could pick him up and cuddle him the cat
slept on the bed with Ellie like a very very
sweet cat so he goes to get church over he's like church come here picks him up and cuddle him. The cat slept on the bed with Ellie, like a very, very sweet cat.
So he goes to get church over.
He's like church.
Come here,
picks him up.
And he's like bloody.
Like,
it looks like he got hit by a car.
He smells awful. And he's got covered in dirt.
And,
and Lewis says like he ate his way out of being buried.
And then,
and that's when he's like holding him and church go like,
and like swipes him in the face.
So this is...
Scratches him,
claws him right in the fucking face.
It's a different cat than we met before.
Demon cat.
So then also,
they...
Is he talking to Ellie again?
Um...
No.
No.
He takes a shower.
He doesn't take a bath.
Oh my God.
Well, he goes to Judd's to be like,
what the fuck is up?
My cat is back.
So Judd and Lewis always have...
They always have beers together.
They have beers together.
They're men.
They always have Budweiser.
Okay.
This is so absurd.
Cracking a couple cold ones.
I know, it really is.
It's so much crazier.
It's so ridiculous.
But yes, he's like,
hey, what the fuck?
And that's when he tells him like,
I did that with my dog.
Judd's like,
I buried my dog up there.
Yeah, so he buried Spot.
And then one day
when Judd's mom was doing laundry,
hanging the sheets
on the clothesline
guess who came back?
Guess who came back?
Spot.
Fucking right he did.
But he was never
the same.
And Judd said
sometimes they came back
and they're not the same
as they were.
Wait, but so did Judd
like Spot being back?
It was his heart and joy.
But did he like him
after the fact?
Why is he taking
to bury the cat so
yeah so he basically said i had the same question
if you know that they don't come back
his reasoning was
uh ellie's not
ready to learn about death yeah so
what's the worst that could happen let's
make her learn about demons instead so
so spot comes back uh
and they have to fucking did the dog die
natural causes Older Yeah
It's just not a nice dog anymore
Horrible
Like Cujo
Fucking bloody
And like
Yeah but you know
Whatever
And that's when
That's when
Fucking Lewis goes
Has he never buried
A person up there
And John's like
No
No
No
Like spills all the
Like he like
Knocks the bottles over
Like no
Oh then there's a bad scene
so after
after the Budweiser scene
Lewis goes home
for a nice warm bath
before the
before the family comes back
from the in-laws in Chicago
sure sure
and he's laying in this bath
he closes his eyes
which he never can do
and it's Emily's favorite scene
because he's all naked
he's fucking
you almost get a little bit
of his nuts
in the bottom of the frame too
like literally
every woman's favorite
part of a man
it's like it's like literally he's like butt naked i was like this is gonna be a dick shot
um but he never is he sinks into this this warm bath and then what happens bloop a fucking rat
drops dead bloody rat drops into the bath guess who brought him a present oh no church church
brought him a present church bought him a present Church. Church brought him a present. Church brought him a present.
And then like, which is very funny because church.
A rat is a big thing for a cat to catch.
Well, I was going to say, it's big.
And church, first of all, threw it from an impossible distance.
It's like if her bedroom door opened up and I was in the bathtub here and like a cat was like.
Yeah.
Like as if she's like throwing a football.
Also, my thing is like when a cat brings you a
treat it it loves you
it is supposed to be nice who would want a
bloody rat when they're in a bath he and he I think
this is a very good reaction in a movie
he's not a very good actor in my opinion
but he really is like he like jumps
out he's like really freaked out but he also goes
he goes church how did you get in here
yeah there's that that's a direct quote yeah it's not always asking the important question so uh
church uh the family comes home yep uh ellie sees church and she's like what's wrong with church and
she's not really mean to ellie though no but he smells super bad he smells like death. And Ellie also had a dream in Chicago.
She said, is church okay?
I had a dream that you and Judd, that he got hit by a truck and then you and Judd buried him in the pet cemetery.
So exactly what happened.
Ellie's got a little bit of the shining, one might say.
One might say.
Stephen King does love to do that.
Add a little bit.
Oh, I actually read a trivia that there's like Cujo posters in the background somewhere and also like your dog comes back and it looks like yeah and you know the girl
it's always like if you look at the shining like you know little danny lawrence had the shining
and it's like a kid right he likes the kids with the the power with the yes yeah um this is a thing
that is important to the plot moving forward but it's weird i didn't really understand why it
happened so we didn't address that They have like a housekeeper woman.
Yeah.
Super, super weird thing.
She's just always like.
Her name is Missy.
And she's in pain.
She's in pain a lot.
And she, out of nowhere, like writes a letter.
And she's like, I can't go on.
I have cancer.
And she hangs herself.
And she hangs herself.
Oh, my God. So that we get that scene.
That's the funeral.
That's Stephen King.
Yes.
So then we cut to the funeral.
But it's like pretty.
Her real only purpose in this movie is to
hang herself so that we can go to a funeral
um funeral where
Stephen King is uh given the
super priest um
we have so they come back and this is another moment where
Ellie's like wondering about death right
that this woman just died so she
asked her dad like what happens after he died
and he goes well people think a lot of things
then we see him don't shilly-shally.
We see him.
The mom is in the kitchen hearing this, but isn't part of the conversation.
We see him look at church and he goes like, I think we go on after we die.
And it's like, well, yeah, you have pretty compelling evidence.
And the mom hears this and is like crying.
So then we go up to the bedroom and she reveals the most upsetting part of the film, I would
say.
Yeah.
Rachel has a sister who has spinal meningitis.
Zelda.
Zelda, who's also kind of the Boo Radley of the family, where they just keep her locked
away in a room.
Oh, my God.
She's like nine years old.
Have we not met this person yet?
And it's like this flashback and it's played by Andrew Bubistek.
Rachel goes and tells the story.
It's a man in a wig.
It's a man in a wig with like a really gaunt face and
like the spine is all fucking
coming through her back and shit. It's
really awful. It's like
that scene when I was a kid was
the one that I had nightmares about. Oh my
fucking God, of course. It's awful. It's like
it's like they open. It's like the little
girl opens the door and you see this like disfigured
body on a bed from behind and it just
all the spine in the ribs and then it
turns around and it's kind of a man's face with
a wig it scared
the shit out of me
it's fucking awful
awful and she's like nasty
and she's got this voice and she's like
she's like almost like a little
wicked witchy like yeah she's like
really nasty she's really nasty so Rachel
has a flashback she's like really nasty she's really nasty so Rachel has a flashback
her husband about it and what she
says she's afraid she's like I was afraid that like
so yeah so she was like I used to have to
take care of my sister we like kept her locked up
in this room
in this flashback also we're in her parents house
we're seeing a very
creepy weird painting up on the
wall of like a kid in fancy clothes little
kid and like fancy creepy clothes
becomes a thing but so
she's explaining like I used to have to take care of my
sister and we see this flashback she's nasty
and Rachel's like I hated her and I
just I felt so bad because I wanted her to die
but she was my sister but it was awful
and she was like and then one day my
parents were out and I
heard my sister calling for me and I went
up and she started dying and as she was dying
she was choking and I got
so scared that people were going to think I murdered her
because I hated her so much but she
was just choking so I like ran out of the
room and I was crying but I think
I was also laughing because I hated her
and I was so glad she was dying.
Jesus Christ.
And then so we cut back. Remember when I said
Rachel didn't have a lot
Well bitch had some
Fucking luggage
Oh my god
So we cut back to like
Norm and she's like
Sobbing and
And Louis is
Holding her
And he's a very good
Husband in this moment
Where he was like
Wow
Your parents
What he says is like
If I didn't already
Have enough reason
To hate your parents
I do now
They should never
Have left you alone
With her
She should have
Had a caretaker
That's fucking awful
I am so sorry
you didn't do anything wrong and he's like
I'm gonna get you a Valium
husband of the year
I don't take that I mean he's like tonight
you take Valium
I'm a doctor I know what to do
yeah so we just
get that really fucking horrifying
scene that's really upsetting
That came out of left field
I was not expecting that
That's super out of left field
That's a lot
The whole thing
Yeah
So then we're at a picnic
We're at a picnic
What could go wrong
It's a picnic
A nice pleasant picnic
Now understand this
So there's
The Crandall house
On one side of the street
And there's
The Creed house
On the other side of the street
And there's
Just open fields all around
Beautiful gorgeous Beautiful fields And there's Somehow there's a picnic table Out the other side of the street and there's just open fields all around beautiful gorgeous
beautiful fields and there's somehow there's a picnic
table out in the middle of these fields like an old school
wooden craftsman picnic table
and they're all having a fucking
hoot they're flying a kite
creed doctor is
flying a kite with gage and
it's up in the eye and john's like look at how
high that kite is
and ellie starts bitching she's like i want to fly the kite it's my turn to in the eye and john's like look at how high that kite is and ellie starts bitching she's
like i want to fly the kite it's my turn to fly the kite and rachel's like wait until gage is done
with his turn and uh so gage starts flying this kite and they're all laughing they're like look
at him go he's like i can't stress enough how cute this kid is and uh he's going so cute and
we've really passed over moments earlier in the
film where Gage is so cute.
He calls on the phone and he's like, I love you, daddy.
I love you, daddy. But his voice
is just such an adorable little angelic.
I love you, daddy. At one point, he throws
food at the cat and goes like, church!
He's just a cute little toddler.
Every time he'll drop something, he'll go, uh-oh.
He's a classic, cute
toddler. He's flying this kite.
Everybody's loving it.
So Dr. Lewis Creed turns his back on Gage, and he starts talking to the family, and they're
all laughing.
I mean, what could go wrong?
Well, the wind picks up.
Oh, no.
And the kite goes up in the air.
And what does Gage do?
He drops the fucking spool of the kite.
Uh-oh.
And Gage says, uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
And now the wind starts taking the kite.
Cut to down the road in a fucking massive
truck.
There's like a meth head cranking up rock and roll music, driving on the road, not paying
attention.
What's going on?
Flying down the street back to the creeds, laughing, laughing back to the truck driver,
cracking, laughing, cracking, laughing, cracking gauge, running after the thing.
John Crandall stands up.
Don't lose.
Get the baby. Well, Lewis starts running for theall stands up. Don't lose. Get the baby.
Well, Lewis starts running
for the street.
They're all screaming.
Get the baby.
And Lewis starts running,
running, running.
Gage is almost at the road.
The truck comes around the turn.
What happens to Lewis?
He fucking trips and falls
just in time to see this kid
get smashed by the truck.
And all you see is his one shoe,
a little bloody,
a little bloody sneaker tumbling on the
street. This scene was great.
So he's on his
knees and he screams
No!
Oh my god. It is
so upsetting. That's so
sad. I still get the goosies about that scene.
It's devastating.
And then we cut to
Dr. Lewis Creed is sitting at his home.
Like,
at this point,
you don't know.
I mean,
if the bloody sneaker
didn't give it away,
you still think Gage
might be there.
And then it's him
looking at all these
pictures of his son.
Yeah,
he's fucking
very dead.
Going through it.
Very dead.
Yeah,
he's dead.
Going through it.
And he's like catatonic.
He looks like,
he's just like,
I mean,
yeah,
that's horrible.
That's horrible.
So Gage is gone.
If only there was
some way to reanimate him, you know?
Yeah, well, guess what?
Guess what?
What could go wrong?
Oh, my God.
Judd has another talk with...
Well, he had the funeral first.
And the funeral is another fucking crazy scene.
Oh, shit.
I forgot about the funeral.
Okay, so get this.
Oh, no.
Rachel's family sucks.
Rachel's family sucks.
Oh, and they have to come for the funeral.
They have to.
So they come to the funeral. They have to. They come to the funeral.
And guess what fucking happens?
The dad gets in fucking Dr.
Lewis's face, says, this is your fault.
How can you not watch him?
Punches him.
He says, I quoted the I wrote the line down.
He goes, you stinking shit.
You killer of children.
And then he punches him.
It's his son's funeral.
They get into a wrestling match.
They knock over Gage's casket and it opens just enough to see his fucking little hand
inside.
One little hand.
Oh my God.
Great shot.
Props to Mary Lambert for that director.
Yeah.
Like it was super, super good.
Everyone is like screaming and it's awful.
It's a shit show.
As if we didn't like Rachel's dad enough.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's bad.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
So then we're at night and we have and we have a talk between Lewis and Judd. This time they're drinking scotch, not enough. Yeah. Wow. It's bad. Yeah. What the fuck? So then we're at night and we have
a talk between Louis and Judd.
This time they're drinking scotch, not beer. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Well, they got it up. Lost your kid.
Yeah. Stay calm. Call us for it.
You go to scotch. And, uh...
Judd basically goes like, hey.
Oh, no, he says he's like, I think
I'm to blame. It's my fault that
Gage died. Because
when we reanimated church,
we awoke some sort of power
and it took Gage as revenge.
Whoa.
And then he goes,
I lied to you before.
I know what you're thinking.
I know what you're thinking right now.
You're thinking like,
you can put your son on the ground
and bring him back.
And he was like,
I lied to you before.
It has been done on a human.
So this one guy, he died in the war and they buried him in the fucking in the place in
the burial ground.
And he came back and then he said, like, I'll stop dies.
I don't come back the same way they were.
We see it like flashback.
And you know who he looks like?
This is like,
have you seen Men in Black?
When Vincent D'Onofrio
like is the giant roach
and he puts on the guy's skin
and he's like walking like this.
Oh, yeah.
So that's like what this guy
looks like.
Such a clear zombie,
like a total zombie.
Yeah.
And he's like deranged.
And he's totally deranged
and he's like fucking up the town.
Oh, my God.
The first shot we see of him,
he's chewing on a leg.
Yes. Bad sign. He's like a up the town. And the first time we see him, he's chewing on a leg. Yes.
Bad sign.
He's like a child's leg.
He's like, like a fucking like it's a turkey leg.
Yeah, he's messed up.
Like, is that the fucking Renaissance Fair?
Yeah.
So did he kill the child?
Is that the exact time?
Probably.
At the very least, he's eating a leg.
Yeah.
So so they're like, we got to get, you know, Judd
at this time and his friends like we got to take care of fucking
Timmy. Yeah, Judd's like a younger man.
So they bring a bunch of gasoline
to this guy's house
and they douse the house of gasoline. And by
the way, why is it when people
pour gasoline in a house in the movies, they like
really fucking shake it everywhere. It's like
is that necessary? It's gasoline.
It's going to light on fire. Yeah.
But I guess you have the gasoline. What else are you going to do?
So dramatic. So dramatic with the gasoline.
So
they pour gasoline through this guy's house.
They throw like shit through his windows and they're
like begging the guy to come out.
The dad. The veteran's dad.
But then the vet like Timmy grabs his dad
on the couch.
I don't know if he's trying to kill his dad or what. But then they fucking light the place on fire. And they both burn up. And the vet, like, Timmy grabs his dad on the couch. I don't know if he's trying to kill his dad or what.
I don't know.
But then they fucking light the place on fire.
And they both burn up.
And the house burns the fuck down.
Wow.
And so we're back in present day.
Judd's telling a story and he says a line, which is, I'll give it to you, Stephen.
Sometimes.
A good line.
Sometimes.
Dad is better.
I think he's right.
He's right.
Sometimes death is better.
Death is better.
Yep. I think he's right he's right sometimes Death is better Yep so Now Rachel and Ellie
The only other two family members left
Go back to Chicago
I think they're gonna like it's I think maybe
They're moving back to Chicago it seems like
They're like well this didn't work
We gave it our best shot
They're traumatized
So Rachel and Ellie go back and And Louis says like, I'll meet you in a few days.
He has to, like, take care of some stuff.
Tie up some loose ends everywhere.
Tie up some loose ends.
Yeah.
But you know what those loose ends entail?
I bet you do.
Oh, God.
Digging up gauge.
He's reanimating his son.
Oh, my God.
Lewis takes the old station wagon And a pickaxe
And a shovel
To the cemetery
Hops over a fence
In broad daylight
And digs up his son's tomb
In broad daylight
Until
Until
A cop car comes driving by
Shines a light around
He ducks in his grave
He gets into the grave
Dits into the grave
Oh god
And the cops drive off.
He gets back out.
And he's so happy.
He's like, oh, I made it.
This is also the moment where we get a return visitor.
Our good friend Vincent Victor, Victor Pascal.
Victor Pascal.
Uh-huh.
Comes back.
He's like, what'd I tell you, buddy?
What'd I tell you?
As Louis is trying to dig up the grave, he's like, hey, don't do this.
Don't do this.
Bad idea, bad idea.
Come on, guy.
And it's clear at this point,
Lewis has sort of lost his mind.
Yeah.
As grief does, and also it's, you know,
other crazy stuff has happened.
Right.
Does Ichterve Ask How Pay go to LEA?
Not yet.
Not yet.
Not yet.
Thank God we coded that.
Yeah, for sure.
No one knew what you're
talking about there um so so pascal this is the first time we've seen pascal in a minute since
the first ghost you've seen um and he's like hey don't do this and the ground is sour the ground
is sour the soil is sour and so and lewis says look i have a plan i'm not crazy I have a plan. I'm not crazy. I have a fucking plan. I'm just going to try this because Rachel and Ellie are out of town.
And if he comes back bad, like that story, I will bury him again.
He said what he says is I'll put him back to sleep.
Not thinking about what if he came back good.
What are you going to tell everybody?
Exactly.
He's not.
He's not thinking straight. miracle He's not thinking straight
But he's like
Crazy thing happened
I have a foolproof plan
If things are bad
It'll be fine
No one will know the wiser
So he takes
This coffin
Up to the Indian burial ground
Indian burial ground
This is the first
Where we get to the
LEA
Scene So he takes up The fucking coffin And then we cut back to Chicago Yes Indian Bear Run. This is the first where we get to the uh, LEA scene.
So he takes up the fucking coffin and then
we cut back to Chicago. Yes. And Ellie
says she had a terrible
dream. Uh oh.
Um, that
uh, I don't know exactly
that, but the gist of it is she had a
dream about this kid.
She says daddy was there when his soul
dis- dis- dis when his soul dis dis dis
dis it she goes patch
cow patch cow
says daddy's gonna do something really
bad patch cow is a good
ghost sent to warn us because
daddy was there when his soul dis
dis I can't remember
um
that's it
uh and her mom's like there's no such thing as ghosts you're having a nightmare it's fine
um and then she walks out of the room my mom does and we're back with uh lewis
not quite we have uh rachel walks out of the room she's like patch cow what was she saying
about patch cow i have that same question yeah and. And it becomes, you see, it's a very funny movie where they're like, we have to get this
in somehow, but we've got to make it very clear.
She's like, Patch Cow?
What's Patch Cow?
And then Pascal's ghost appears and he goes, Pascal.
My God.
And she goes, Pascal.
Could she have been saying Pascal?
Why do I know that name?
He was there.
He was there when his soul.
And he goes,
Discorporated.
And she has this moment of realization
and she's like,
Oh, fuck.
That's the kid who died.
I know it all.
Runs down the stairs.
Yes.
So now we're back with Gage.
Dead Gage and dad.
And now the dad is carrying this whole coffin
up to the Indian burial ground.
Still daytime?
No, it's night.
It's night.
He looks at a rock pile.
It's going to look pretty crazy if it's daytime.
Also, he looks at this rock pile.
There's like water and there's this rock pile down there.
And the rock pile comes back.
The rock pile comes to life in this serpent-esque...
Did you ever see the movie The Abyss?
Like the water...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the rocks do that and it's's Ellie's or it's Rachel's dad.
Right?
I thought it was Judd.
I thought it was Rachel's dad.
I don't know.
It was weird.
He's like, you're a child killer.
Oh, maybe it was.
Yeah, it's Rachel's dad.
You killer of children or whatever.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
And then Lewis does this.
Wipes his eyes.
Yeah, very cartoony. Oh, like, what? What am I seeing? And then he looks back. Wipes his eyes. Yeah, very cartoony.
Oh, like, what?
What am I seeing?
And then he looks back and then just rocks.
He's like, everything's fine.
Everything's fine.
I'm going to go bury my dead kid again.
Everything's fine.
So he buries Gage.
So in this scene, we're cutting back and forth between he's going up to bury Gage.
We're seeing him bury Gage.
Cutting back, Rachel is furiously trying
to get back to Maine. Right.
And we have this very, again, the things I
care about. She's
like running through the airport pre 9-11
world. She's running through
the airport. The flight attendant is closing
the door and it like won't
latch. And Rachel's like, ah, and like
squirts, like gets herself through the
door and the flight attendant's like, you can't do that. She's like, yes, I can. And she's like ha and like squirts like gets herself through the door and the flight attendant's like you can't do that and she's like
yes I can and she's like fine I'll
call the plane and she like the flight attendant
calls the plane and they stop it and let her
run on um but she
doesn't happen anymore we see so
basically by the time Gage is buried
Rachel has made it back to Maine
uh but at
the airport she needs a rental
car she needs a rental car she needs a rental car
and
there's no rental cars
available
until
however
guess who
guess who shows up
Pascal
Victor fucking Pascal
as it goes up
as a ghost
in the airport
looking over Rachel's shoulder
and he's like
what about that
Studebaker
yeah
and then the girl goes
actually wait
we have this car
available
what about that Studebaker with the big scratch on the side she goes well actually we have this Studebaker with and then the girl goes Actually wait we have this car Available and he goes what about that Studebaker with the big
Scratch on the side she goes well actually we have this
Studebaker with his big scratch on the side and
Victor Pascal smiles
Very satisfied
He's having a lot of fun now
What a helpful ghost and then she
Goes I'll take it so she
Gets this she gets this car and now
She's fucking hightailing it down the road
And she gets A blowout which is Like crazy she gets this car and now she's fucking hightailing it down the road uh and she gets a
blowout which is like crazy she gets this one blowout and her car spins out and like hits a
tree crashes off like it was like a flat tire that turned into like a fucking nascar accident
yeah um but pascal says it's trying to stop you it's like the power is trying to keep her from getting
there in time.
So then she flags down
a trucker.
A trucker. She flags down a trucker and the trucker
sees this, you know, hot 80s
blonde and he's like, come on in, lady.
Oh, no.
It's fine. That part ends up being good.
That's the scary part for me.
That's some of the real life scary, but that's fine. That part ends up being good. That's the scary part for me. That's some of the real life scary,
but that's fine.
So she gets a ride.
Oh, wait.
So at this point now,
Lewis is like,
Gage, come back to me, Gage.
Lewis goes home.
Oh, yeah.
And he goes home
and he puts his pickaxe in the basement
and he goes upstairs
and he falls face first on his bed
and he's fucking exhausted.
He's tired.
And then we cut back to the
burial ground and we see the rocks starting to move
so then
we see we hear like little
footsteps and like laughing and stuff
and we see just basically the shadow of
his little shadow walking in the room and we
see like really pale white hands and
like a little suit and
daddy
you're like daddy
and then what he does is now we
finally see gage's face and it's fucking creepy very creepy he has this big scar down like this
his face this little two-year-old boy totally pale white face his hair is kind of combed and
he's in his little funeral suit and then he like walks over to the the uh uh the closet and he
pulls out his dad's doctor bag.
Uh-oh.
And he goes inside and sitting right on top of the doctor bag is a scalpel.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
In a little case.
In a little case.
So he grabs the scalpel.
And guess where Gage goes?
Up to see his dad?
Up to see Judd Crandall.
Oh.
So he goes and Judd Crandall.
Yeah, the dad has slept through all
of that. The dad slept through all this.
So he goes to
Judd's house and Judd
notices like little like
napping on the porch.
And he notices like these little muddy
footprints and he goes inside and he hears
laughing and he goes, come, I want to play.
Oh, let's play
hide and seek.
And then so Judd's like stuff comes tumbling on the steps
in judge's house and judd goes walking up stage like it's dark also just so you know okay i got
something for you and judd pulls out a little knife he's not you know he knows what's he's
yeah he's like i'm gonna have to kill a little boy.
So then he's upstairs in this room and he's looking because now Gage wants to play hide and seek.
And you hear like laughing and giggling and stuff like that.
And does the phone ring?
I don't, maybe not.
No, Judd like bends down to look for him.
And he's wearing slippers.
He's wearing these very fashionable leather slippers.
And all you see is a hand come off from under the bed with a scalpel and he's wearing slippers. He's wearing these very fashionable leather slippers and all you see is a hand come out
from under the bed
with a scalpel
and slices Achilles tendon.
Ah!
I don't like that.
And Judd screams
and he falls over
and then Gage comes out
and he goes,
with the scalpel in his hand
and he starts walking
really slow over to Judd
and Judd,
for some reason,
even though he only has
one Achilles,
he can't move.
He's pretty old. And then Gage...
He's pretty old.
And then Gage swipes and slices him
like the Joker, like across his mouth.
Oh, no.
I don't like that one bit.
And then Judd falls on his back.
And then Gage gets on top of him
and starts biting through his neck.
Oh, my God.
He rips his throat open.
With his mouth?
With his mouth.
His little baby mouth.
His little baby boy eats his neck.
Ew!
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. It's really nasty and gnarly
so is this the kid that's a good actor yes and he's he's super well she's seen it's super creepy
so then uh and also why uh so rachel at this point gets home and she's like running through
the house but then she starts having a flashback. Well, OK, so Rachel gets dropped off by the truck at her place.
Oh, yeah.
And Victor Pascal says he looks at her and he goes, I can't go any farther than this.
This is where I leave you.
Why?
And she goes, because the force won't let him through.
Those are the fucking rules.
And she goes, I think something like, I think it'll be OK.
And he goes, I don't.
And then the ghost says that.
The ghost says that.
So she's about to go into her house.
The reason why she came here, when she hears Zelda's voice, her nasty sister, calling her
from Judd's place, she goes, Rachel.
And then we hear Gage laughter.
So she walks into
Judd's house.
She hears the combo
of Zelda calling her
and Gage laughter.
She starts going into
this weird like psychotic.
She's like in a state.
She's in a state
and she's like walking
into the halls
and it's like her
kind of like back
in her childhood home.
Yeah, the idea is like
the power is now
like messing with her
and she's representing
her fears
and so she's sort of like
has to
follow it up to the same room where we saw Judd
just get killed by Gage
and her sister's in there
her sister's in the room she's like curled up
in the corner in this like nasty
nightgown I told you I'd come
back for you
and she goes I'm going to twist
your back like mine so you'll
never get out of bed again.
No.
Oh, my God.
And she just basically becomes overwhelmed and like puts her hand over her face and like closes her eyes.
Rachel does.
And when she opens them, Gage is there.
Oh, no.
Evil Gage.
We see her.
She sees Gage and she's like, Gage.
OK.
And he's so Gage now We see her. She sees Gage and she's like, Gage. OK. And he's so Gage now is dressed in the outfit.
That was the little boy in the picture.
So remember, there's a creepy painting in her parents house.
Yes.
Gage is dressed as a boy.
Same outfit.
He's like, don't know why.
Don't know how.
Don't know why.
Who cares?
Whatever.
It's creepy.
But he looks like he's in like a little velvet blue outfit with a top hat and a tiny cane.
Like a Dutch boy. Yeah. He's like, honestly, it's about like he's about like a little velvet blue outfit with a top hat and a tiny cane. Like a Dutch boy.
Yeah.
He's like, honestly, it's about like he's about to put on a little show.
He has a tiny cane.
A tiny cane.
It's very cute.
My interest is piqued.
But so she's just like, oh, my God, it's my son.
And he goes, I brought you something, mommy.
Oh, no.
And he pulls out the scalpel.
Oh, God. And he goes, I brought you something, mommy.
Oh, no.
And he pulls out the scalpel.
Oh, God.
And he goes, I brought you something, Mommy.
But she's really happy to see her son.
And she opens her arms to him.
Cut back to Lewis waking up in bed.
Lewis wakes up in bed.
So true, Elvis. And he sees the little muddy footprints.
Yep.
And he's like.
All over his bed.
He's like.
I did it.
He's like, Gage.
He's so happy.
Uh-oh.
And then he sees the footprints go down the steps. And he's like all over his bed he's like i did it he's like gage he's so happy and then he sees the footprints go down the steps and he's like oh no so he runs down the steps and
he runs over to the judge's house well he sees the footsteps go to his medical bag and he sees
that the scalpel's gone yeah but then did he go to the basement again or like so first so he so
he sees that so that then he goes to he takes falls of footprints downstairs then he gets a
phone call it's a phone call it and it's And it's it's it's Rachel's dad.
And he's like, like, totes cool that he fucking ruined the funeral.
Yeah, we're good now.
Like, he's like, did Rachel get there safely?
And then he hears.
And that's when he's like, fuck, Rachel's not here.
Rachel's not here.
Shit.
And then he goes over to Judd's house.
Well, he hangs up.
He very suspiciously.
Hey, if a father in law calls and is like, hey, did your wife get in safe? And he's like, can't talk hangs up. He very suspiciously. Hey, if a father-in-law calls
and is like, hey,
did your wife get in safe?
And he's like,
can't talk right now.
It's like not looking good.
But I mean, it won't matter.
So he hangs up.
Phone rings again.
And he thinks it's the father-in-law.
And he thinks he was like,
I told you I can't talk right now.
Gage.
It's Gage on the phone.
How did Gage learn how to dial the phone?
And Gage says, Daddy.
And he's like, Gage?
He's like, I want...
He's like, I played...
First, I played with Judd.
And then I played with Mommy.
And now I want to play with you.
Oh, no.
I know.
And he goes, what did you do?
And Gage laughs.
And he goes, what did you do?
Oh, boy.
So he runs over to Judd's.
After filling several syringes with a bunch of morphine?
Yeah, some kind of a sedative.
Yeah, he fills a bunch of syringes with, I would say, a lethal amount of sedatives.
And then he goes outside and first he sees the cat.
So he grabs Church and he fucking shoots.
And I have a fucking fun fact about this one.
So he shoots the cat in the neck with this fucking like syringe and then the cat's like dead they actually had a veterinarian on set sedate a real cat for that scene
i swear to god so it's like when you see this cat it's like the cat is like out you can see
it's like a real cat it's like breathing and stuff But they actually had They had a real vet
There
That sedated the cat
On set
So it looked real
Which it was
Honestly
Really good cat performance
And I know that sounds like
I'm making a joke
The cat is really good
I read that
It was like six different cats
Okay all the cats are good
All the cats are great
All the cats are good
And they were each trained
To do a different thing
So they had this
Really special specialty
It's like
Cause the first cat Like he peeled off when Church got hit by the truck.
It was like, that's obviously a fake fucking cat.
Oh, yeah.
But this was a real cat.
But this cat was like, it was fucking looped.
I was like, did they, like, fucking put this cat down?
Did they kill the cat for this movie?
I was like, maybe this shit was legal in the 80s, you know?
Yeah.
They did crazy shit.
They did do crazy shit.
I think it's honestly crazy that they legitimately put a cat to sleep for a take.
Stephen King is committed to the truth.
Yeah, but so he puts, he
kills Church. He kills Church
and then he goes over to the house and he's
looking for Gage. And the house is like
it's like turned swampy
and like. It's like mossy, which is another
throwback. It's a very Stephen King-y thing.
In the Korean Creepshow, we had this whole thing about moss
that takes over a house. It's another little
Stephen King-y thing. It's over our house. It's another little.
It's become very surreal.
It's like in a matter of hours.
It's like this.
The magic is taking over.
He sees Rachel's bag too at the doorstep.
So he's like, oh no.
So he goes upstairs and he hears, you know, laughing and stuff and like little he hears little like a like little kids running across the floor and stuff.
He sees Judd's corpse. Well, he finds
Judd's corpse. There's like a sheet and he pulls the sheet
over and Judd's dead. And then he
he's like walking in the hallway
and Rachel's body falls and she's hung.
Which, how did
Gage do that? I don't know. Wow.
And then he sees Gage and he
says, Daddy?
Gage leaps at him from
the open attic little trap door oh no with a with the
scalpel in hand and it's literally the funniest fight scene because it's obviously a doll yeah
and then it's like put this doll they like velcroed a doll to a guy and it's a scene of an
actor just like running around trying to get this doll off his back and then a bunch of just like
close-up shots of a knife going into a body that are clearly not, you know, but he gets stabbed
a fuck ton. A lot. So then he's like
on the ground and then he goes
to take out a syringe and then the syringe gets
knocked down the stairs. Oh no. And then
he says, Gage. And
Gage goes, again with the scalpel.
And Gage also bites
him again at some point and takes some skin
out. He's like super
Gage like bites at his heart and like pulls
He loves to bite. Yeah. So
and then at some point he's sitting
there and he goes Gage
and he like he's going to show Gage affection.
Yeah. And
so Gage starts walking up to him and he goes Gage
my Gage and Gage gets close
and his dad sticks him in the neck. He had another
syringe. Another syringe sticks him in the neck and Gage
goes ah. It is this syringe. Another syringe sticks him in the neck. And Gage goes, ah!
It is this. Great acting.
I want to show you guys this scene
because it is so sad too
because he's like a little evil demon
but he looks like a two-year-old
in this moment.
But the best line,
the best line,
the dad takes the syringe out
and Gage takes a step back
and he goes,
no fair.
He's like a-
And walks away.
Yeah, he goes,
no fair.
He like starts,
so oh my God, this, I'm like getting, this movie's stupid this movie's cheesy and this part happened i like have the
chills and he's like goes like oh and like gets all pouty and like looks like he's gonna cry and
like back and he's also like getting sedated so he's like sort of stumbling he just goes
no and then as he's back into the hall he trips over something and like falls and hits his head.
The real little kid.
It looks, yeah.
It looks great.
For sure an accident, but like they kept it in the film.
He falls and hits his head.
And then he's like sitting there and he's like, he goes to sleep.
So then Lewis brings in the fucking gasoline.
Yeah.
And lights on fire.
But not before he takes the body of his wife.
He takes Rachel's body.
Oh, God.
Come on.
Is this guy not learning any lessons?
No.
Well, he's way crazy by now.
So he lights this entire fucking craftsman house on fire.
Like this beautiful.
This beautiful craftsman.
This beautiful craftsman on fire.
You hate to see it.
You hate to see it.
And it burns all night long.
Like he buries the wife in the cemetery.
Well, Pascal shows up one more time as he's walking
out with Rachel's body and he's like
my dude
stop this he's like
I know things are bad but don't make it worse
yeah and he goes it's gonna be different this time
he goes Gage was dead too long he's
like she just died it'll be fine
yeah that's the logic so
that's not how it works.
So he he buries the wife
and now he like he
he's he goes to sleep
and he like waits up for her.
He's very crazy.
He gets the fridge.
He's like playing cards
with him across
across the across the street.
This house has been
is now smoldering.
It's like no firemen.
No, nothing. There's nobody outering. It's like no firemen, no nothing.
There's nobody out here.
No place, nothing.
Right.
And then you hear the door start to open.
Oh.
And you see this muddy sock come in and then like a high-heeled shoe.
It's like she has one shoe on.
Oh, no.
And he gets up and he's like, Rachel, I'm getting like nauseous thinking about this.
And it's so unnecessary
this moment.
It makes no sense.
So he like,
and then Rachel comes in
and her head is cracked open
and her eye is literally
just gushing pus.
Oh my God.
Like spurting pus.
Also like she was hung.
When did this happen?
I don't know.
But it's awful.
And then he sees her
and he gets up
and he walks up to her
and they start making out
like the biggest
tongue fucking like sloppy
wet kiss while her eyes
oozing pus and you know how bad they smell
because they all smell bad.
He's crazy. He's fully crazy now. Yeah.
And then as they're
making out like full on making out with this
dead smelly zombie, you see her
hand reach down on the table and pick up a chef's knife
and it fades out you just hear
so she
fucking killed him
and that's
the movie wow
wow wow wow what's the moral of the
story learn your lessons sometimes
death is better that's the moral that's
that is absolutely the moral of the story
oh my
god I love I love that it ended on a make out like that that's fun when she That is absolutely the moral of the story. Oh, my God.
I love that it ended on a make out like that.
That's fun.
When she, because you know she's going to come back in, right?
That's fucking hot.
When her eye was doing that, I wish you guys could, like, it made no sense that her eye was doing that.
It was super, super weird.
She was so nasty.
What a crazy ending.
They go right at it.
It is a crazy ending. But I like at it. It is a crazy ending.
But I like that ending.
I'm happy.
I'm here for the ending.
He definitely, like, thank God he died, right?
Like, thank fucking God.
What happened to her?
Yeah, she's out murdering.
She's left to terrorize the town.
Yeah, she's out to terrorize the town.
There needs to be a pet cemetery, too.
Also, like, is there?
I was going to say there probably is.
There probably is.
Have you seen it?
I have not.
I don't know what happens in it
I have questions
I have all of the questions
for this
there was a remake
came out 30 years later
came out last year
30 years after the original
I'm going to watch that one
yeah I'm interested too
I
I
was upset
that I had to watch this
but
now I'm sort of glad
that I did
so
look at you getting braver
I am getting braver
I'm so proud I'm getting bra glad that I did. Look at you getting braver. I am getting braver. I'm so proud.
I'm getting braver.
So I don't know.
Not my favorite kind of film, though, I must say.
Sure.
Sure, sure, sure.
Sounds like there's some pretty gross stuff in there.
There's some pretty gross stuff.
It's some pretty upsetting.
The Achilles tendon.
No, that's bad.
That is, oof, ow.
And again, that scene at the end with Gage is like devastating.
Yeah.
We did it, guys.
Thank you so much.
My pleasure. You did an amazing job.
It was a real wild ride.
I kind of want to watch it.
I'll probably watch it.
It's free on Amazon Prime.
Get it while it's hot.
I think for this movie
We should do the old
Judd voice
Sign off
We say
Just goodbye is what we say
But let's try to
Will you give us a Judd Crandall
Goodbye for us Jonathan
Ladies thank you for
Having me on the podcast
I'm Jonathan Sadowski here on Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Until next time, sometimes dad is better.
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