Too Scary; Didn't Watch - POLTERGEIST

Episode Date: October 7, 2020

TV people, scary trees, and REAL human skeletons - we're recapping Tobe Hooper's (Steven Spielberg's?) 1982 classic horror film Poltergeist. Sammy is facing her fears and revisiting this movie for the first time since third grade! Join us as we kick off October with this listener chosen film. Poltergeist is streaming on Netflix. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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know i'm starting to feel like a lie i'm not too scared for all scary movies anymore but most still for sure we're we're all getting braver every day and you guys it's now october it's officially October, which is wild on multiple levels, but here we are. So it's the best time to be a little brave because it's fun to watch spooky movies and spooky season. It is fun. But, you know,

some people still can't handle them and that's why we're here. And that's why we're here. And we're still here for me because I still don't want to watch most of the things that we end up doing on this freaking show. You know, it's still too much for me.

I think I talk. I think I've started talking a big game about it. You know, maybe I always have done this where I'm like, I'll watch that. I've watched that. I think you have always done it. I haven't had a lot of follow through. My follow through is not there. It's fair.

It's quite low. Yeah. You really excel in other things Henley and so that's just fine I appreciate the validation and the support thank you but because it's October and spooky season we are doing

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what's up with us how are we doing i feel like um my weekly check-ins will probably just become weekly spider reports. Oh, boy. We need that spider info. Because as I mentioned last week, I am living in Washington temporarily, and I am living basically in the middle of a forest,

and there's a lot of spiders. It's spider territory. It's spider's world, and you're just living in it. Exactly. And at first I tried to fight against it. Now I'm trying to live in harmony with the spiders. Interesting.

Okay, okay. So as I mentioned, there's a species of spider called the giant house spider. They're very big big as the name might suggest and uh i've seen another one since i last spoke to you guys in my bedroom again on the carpet even bigger than the last one and i was really proud of myself i didn't kill it i literally chased it out of the room i I like stomped around its general vicinity, scaring it in different directions and then blocking its path. And I opened the door and chased it onto the patio and then closed the door

behind it. And it really made me laugh, but I felt happy that I didn't kill it because it's like, it's so big that killing it is like a whole thing yeah it's a task well and it's also like it's messy i don't know it just feels like more of a creature like it's like i'm more aware that i'm you know extinguishing life oh then i am with like an ant or something it's always sometimes we've talked about this before. Sometimes it's sad to kill any bug and you'll get to the headspace,

but particularly this one. But anyway, so I was proud that I didn't kill it. And yeah, so that's my update is I'm learning, I'm learning to live in harmony with the spiders in Washington. Last week, Sammy, you were trying to vacuum up a spider and it wasn't, it was resisting the vacuum. And that felt like a cartoon in my head.

And then you chasing the spider out of your house also feels cartoonish in like a fun way. I'm enjoying these little vignettes you're having with the spiders. So far they've all ended well. If any gets on my person I'm going to be less. It's going to be

less funny and less cartoony. I guess it'll still be cartoony. It might still be cartoony. For you, Henley. Yeah, but it might be bad for you. What about you guys? What's up? I mean, you know, not too much.

Holding down the fort here in Los Angeles where it is very, very, very hot right now. Another heat wave. We always get at least one october heat wave every year i always have to wait go you know summer is not over until we're through october um but i also was a little bit hungover this morning woke up a little bit hungover um and a Wednesday night. Hey, what is what are days at this point? Amen. Yeah. And now the days I am working are I work on Fridays and Saturdays. So actually, Wednesday, Thursday is like my little midweek weekend, one of my weekends. So it's fine. Um, but yeah, I was a little hungover. but it's so hot out. It's so hot out. And I, and being hung over when it's hot, really sucks.

It's the worst. It's the worst. Um, and I can't go anywhere, do anything because that's where we are right now. So I decided I was going to do for myself. Rain day. And what this is,

explain, what is rain day? I need you to elaborate. This is an idea that I've had for a little while now kicking around in my brain that I that I finally did today which is here's anyone can do rain day here's how you do it

you um wait is this a thing or is this something you just made up no I made it up I'm pretty sure I made it up I mean other people might do it but I don't it's not a thing as far as I know stop slowing down until I want to hear what it is. I'm on the edge of my seat. I mean, you're going to be, oh boy, you're going to be so excited.

What it is, is you cover all your windows so you make it dark in your house. And you play the sounds of thunderstorms on your speakers. And you just sit around and you watch movies and you read your book and you pretend that it's cold and rainy. Oh my God, did you? The art of imagination. Did you have a little squirt bottle to mist yourself or anything? So the idea is I'm home and it's raining outside. I guess that's true. I'm not trying to

get wet in the rain. But I did. I had my AC on so it was like cool and dark and sounded like rain and I like yeah I watched movies. I did some yoga. Honestly. That sounds

lovely. It was great. I miss rainy days so much growing up in the East Coast and getting like massive thunderstorms all the time. Yeah. We don't get those here so much and certainly not this time of year. We could really use it, but it's not happening. So I was like, fuck it. I've decided that it's a rain day and I did it. And honestly, it was great.

I love that. I think the listeners are going to like this. I highly recommend it. It's a, you know, I don't know that I ever pre-COVID would have spent a day being like, it's rain day for me. And it was a way to because you know like especially a midweek I hate a hangover day where you're just like oh I can't I don't feel like doing anything but I also feel like lazy

and shitty but like if it's rain day you can't do anything because it's rain day the guilt goes away it's a choice I'm choosing that it's rain day and so I have to watch movies and I have to sit The guilt goes away. of me so and Washington and Washington but um I you know hey I live in LA normally and I'm I'm putting this in the in the back of my in the back of my mind yeah yeah store this store this

idea it's it's an evergreen idea um it's not going anywhere um what about you Hen Henley? What's up? I was reading an article this week that's in The New Yorker about this sci-fi writer, Susanna Clark. Do you regularly read The New Yorker? Side note, just because I feel like you always have articles on hand. And I don't know the last time I read an article that I could, you know what I mean? Like, I was like, oh, I was just reading this article. Like, I just feel like it's like a thing that you do. And I'm really impressed.

I'm over here pretending it's rainy and you're like reading the New Yorker. Your life is way, way cooler. No, I don't. I don't read. I don't read the New Yorker that often. We subscribe to it. Tim reads it front to back every week in a way that's insane.

I do not at all, but I can't focus on reading a full book, so articles will have to do for now. But she said the sci-fi writer, the whole article is really interesting.

I highly recommend it. But she said something that I thought was really cool, where she's working on a novel that she's calling a quote-unquote anti-horror novel. And she said, and they were like, what does that mean? And she was like, horror novels have this idea where there's a kind of secret at the center of the world. And that secret is horrific. This, she observes, isn't much of a secret, really.

Anyone can look around at the world and see that. So this would be more about the fact that at the center of things, there's a secret or mystery and it's joyful. And I kind of like that i kind of like the idea of structuring a whole book where like the secret is something that's actually good that's you know that never happens i love it suzanne clark i love it too yeah suzanna clark she wrote um the book jonathan strange and mrrell, which came out a while ago, that was super popular. I've not read it, but I can picture the cover like so perfectly.

I haven't read it either. They made like a BBC adaptation of it and stuff. People love that book. I like BBC shows. Yeah. Talk about something to watch on a rainy day or a rain day. Rain day. Excuse me.

Rain day. or a rain day. Rain day. Yes, excuse me. Rain day. Well, I think we better get into this week's movie because we got a lot to cover, you guys. Yeah, we have a lot to cover. There's a lot to know.

This is a big movie. And listeners chose it. And it also is, isn't it your scariest, Sammy? Yes, I'll tell you. Or the one you put off. I'll tell you. So this week's movie.

I bet you will. I bet you will. This week's movie is Polter you will. I bet you will. This week's movie is Poltergeist. Came out in 1982. Directed by Tobe Hooper. Didn't know that. That's the director of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Oh. Spooky. Written by Steven Spielberg. I don't think I knew that. I didn't know that. He wrote it but didn't direct it? Okay, well, we'll get into... I have some trivia about that. I will just say really quickly, this is one that

I definitely scared the bejesus out of me when I would see it at the video store. I think I know nothing about it, other than Sammy thinks it's really scary. So, written by Stevenven spielberg michael grace and mark victor starring joe beth williams heather o'rourke craig t nelson

beatrice straight dominic dunn and oliver robbins and yes to answer your question this is one that i saw at a slumber party in third grade oh no no no and i i there was a moment in it where i think i called my mom and asked her to come pick me up and i don't think that she did and so i just sat in the other room not watching because i was scared oh it's such a specific experience being a sleepover and feeling trapped and being like, oh no. Who are these brave third graders though who are watching it like not with it with no

care in the world? I don't know. I'm not friends with them anymore. But yeah, I hadn't seen it since it had stayed in my head as like a very scary movie. And I'm really happy that I watched it because it's good. And it's really not scary if you're not a child. I don't think.

I mean, it's like. Oh, interesting. Okay. I think it's pretty manageable. But then again, I'm very brave. But Henley, you were saying this cover really scares you the cover really really scared me i mean the little girl with her hands on the tv yes well there was okay yep yep yep i there was a um iteration of before blockbuster there was like

the video store that we would go to. Maybe it was called Movie King. Maybe that's actually what it's called, Movie King. And I remember they had like a spooky section. And I remember this cover so clearly and being so scared because obviously, I guess I identified with that little girl. I don't know. She's blonde. She's blonde.

I was blonde. That's probably what was happening. But it really stuck out as one that I was like, don't even look at it. I was thinking of you, Emily, how you didn't even want to like look at a cover. Oh, I couldn't do it. Yeah. I would run through those aisles if I somehow accidentally found myself there. Oh, you guessed it.

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And if that's something that you don't want to happen, good luck. And cheers. Do we have trivia for this one? We've got some trivia. We've got a good amount of trivia. So first, I'll just say that they almost cast drew barrymore as that little girl but um they wanted someone more angelic who i mean i'm like excuse me more was more angelic than five-year-old drew barrymore okay but um but that is what made Steven Spielberg cast her in E.T.

So E.T. She came out on top. She came out on top, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So Poltergeist and E.T. came out in the same year. And this is to answer your question about Steven Spielberg not directing. He was contractually obliged not to direct another movie while he was making E.T.

And so he got Tobe Hooper to direct because he liked, you know, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's a great horror film, very well directed. But there's a big like controversy over Poltergeist, over who directed it because steven spielberg's not gonna like take a back seat right yeah um and so there's just a lot of rumor that he was basically directing and was he kind of made a rude comment about tobe hooper at one point. Like, well, Tobe's not a take charge kind of guy. So who do you think directed it? And then had to issue an apology. Yeah, that's really rude.

Yeah. It seems like a way that Steven Spielberg was able to make another movie while he was not allowed to technically direct it but sounds like he still did it feels way more like a spielberg movie than a texas chainsaw massacre movie i'll say that okay more fun loving family values uh there's some family values um i love family values in a horror movie. And then we've got some of the old classic cursed film. You love to hear it. The year that it came out, one of the stars of it was murdered by her ex-boyfriend. Oh, my God.

At age 22, Dominique Dunn was murdered. Holy shit. At age 22, Dominique Dunn was murdered. Holy shit. The actress that played the little girl, Heather O'Rourke, died in 1988 when she was age 12 from like, I think it's like sepsis from like an intestinal blockage that was misdiagnosed as colitis. What? And then two other people also died. Both of, I think, kind of more, not like natural causes, but a lot of people died within a few years of the movie being made. And then there were a few cast members who

claimed that kind of supernatural things were happening to them. Like one of them had a dream that their grandma died and the next day got a call that their grandma had died so some creepy occurrences and then four deaths yikes i think there is a documentary actually called the like poltergeist curse or something like that i want there to be a documentary about all the different movies that have like curses yeah i wonder if there is because I feel like there's a lot. Has there ever been like a rom-com

that's cursed? Or is it pretty self-selective? Like if a demon's like, alright, I'm gonna fuck with this movie, it's gotta be the one that's talking about demons. I pray to God there's a rom-com that's cursed. That'd be so funny. I pray to God. I pray to God. We've rom-com that's cursed. That'd be so funny. I pray to God. I pray to God.

We've got some actors' rights issues. Oh, no. It's been a while. It was made in the 80s, so that's when actors' rights were not held to a high enough standard. Oh, no. There is a scene where the woman who plays the mother character, Jo Beth Williams, has to be in a pool in a kind of big, crazy, like climactic scene. And she was really nervous about allberg just also got into the pool and was like i'll die too if something happens it's like that's not steven although to be to be fair he's you know

putting putting himself on the line yeah and it's like then we're both done it's just a very bizarre way of trying to make a set feel safe it's like uh we won't change any of the things but I'll just die too to be nitpicky I don't think necessarily how electrocution works they could both get electrocuted and they

wouldn't both necessarily die because I think it has a lot to do with uh your proximity times out your proximity the shock level and and sometimes how yeah how it times out with like your heart oh yeah i don't know enough about that but anyway it doesn't i just wouldn't super be comforted by that it didn't comfort me and apparent but apparently it comforted by that fact. It didn't comfort me, but apparently it comforted Jo Beth Williams enough, and she did it. She didn't have much of a choice, sounds like. Also, I'm certain I'm so very wrong about how it works to be electrocuted in a pool, and I'm just

imagining somebody much smarter than me listening to this and being like, what an idiot. That's not how electrocution works. Honestly, if you know how electrocution works honestly i if you know how electric electrocution works i can't even say the word so that's fucking cool that's cool tell us tell us we don't we don't know we don't know okay to get back to an earlier point about this podcast which we haven't brought up in this episode but is, is facts don't matter. We don't care about facts. We don't deal in facts.

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I don't know what happens over this house. I've never sensed anything like it. That thing is in there with my baby poltergeist it knows what scares you i honestly i relate so much to the final moment of that trailer of that girl just screaming what's happening uh sammy no wonder this movie scared you so badly in third grade it's like the perfect movie to scare a kid to sleep over

you're in a house the whole time like in a kids bedroom the kids are like getting sucked into a scary vortex also that little girl really is very angelic she's really cute and I get it and she like looks like Henley I feel like so I could see why

that is such a compliment you guys thank you so much cute and I get it. And she like looks like Henley. She does look like Henley. That is such a compliment you guys. Thank you so much. My favorite moment of that trailer too was we see the like they're here then the next day mom's like so um remember how last night when you said like bring it up for breakfast

it'll just lean in really casually just bring it up just float it to her just float it to her really casually. Just bring it up. Just float it to it. Just float it to it really casually. Be cool. So remember how last night? Maybe you don't remember this because you're super busy. I know. Because I've got a lot on my plate. I'm really got a lot going on.

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So we start with the credits playing over the Star Spangled Banner and kind of some TV static, some TV images. We can't quite make it out. Some sort of like patriotic video on the TV that ends and then cuts to TV static. We see a man like passed out in front of the TV and the TV static wakes up the little girl upstairs. The little girl's name is Carol Ann. And she walks downstairs, looks at the TV, and is kind of yelling into the static. And she says, Hello? What do you look like? Talk louder. I can't hear you. And she's yelling and wakes up the dad. The dad kind of is like confused. Doesn't cut in, though. And she's then she starts smiling at the TV static and she just starts kind of talking normally being like, yes. Oh, maybe. Yeah. And so she's just having a

conversation with the TV static. Now we cut to our opening credits, wide shots of very suburban streets, kind of the, what do you call them? Match, they're not matchbox houses. What's the term I always- Track housing? Track housing. I always think of, yes, track housing. All the houses look the same. You see the dad now watching football with all his friends, the mom cleaning. We're just seeing that we're meeting the family. The mom is Diane. The dad is Steve. We've met Carol Ann. And Carol Ann has a brother named Robbie and a sister named Dana. named Robbie and a sister named Dana. And in my head, I'll have you know that I was like, I'm going to estimate their ages because I feel like you'll need to know. Are you getting better at this? And I was like, Robbie's definitely eight. I've previously said all children are eight.

Especially if you have three, one of them's eight. One of them is definitely eight. And I was like,bie's for sure the eight-year-old in this family if not if not all of them um no dana is older she's a teenager i i would have guessed she was 15 and carol ann she looks younger and i would have guessed five and i'll have you know later on they say their ages and they're 5, 8 and 15 look at her I was very proud but okay so that night the kids are getting ready for bed Carol Ann and Robbie share a room there's like

a lightning storm happening Robbie's getting a little scared there's a spooky tree outside of his window that has no leaves or anything it's just kind of a knobby tree, like the Whomping Willow. And it kind of outlines almost in the shape of a person, like the branches make look like arms and the top of it kind of looks like a head. And it's being illuminated by the lightning in such a way that Robbie is just looking really scared of it.

lightning in such a way that Robbie is just looking really scared of it. And then on top of that, he also has a clown doll sitting on a chair facing his bed. Well, that's his problem. Yeah, the clown doll, the tree he can't do anything about, but the clown doll he can change. Right. And just move that clown doll. But he doesn't. He just stares at it.

He throws a blanket over its head at one point. And it's like, it's your room. Just tell them you don't like this doll. Anyways, he doesn't. But he covers its head. And Diane, their mom, comes and tucks them in, puts them to bed. Diane goes up to bed

with Steve. They're smoking pot in bed. These are young parents. They're in their 30s. Very fun. They're getting a little high. They're very giggly. The dad is at first reading a Reagan biography.

Ronald Reagan. Thank you for specifying. In case you were wondering. In case you were wondering which Reagan. Oh, that Reagan. Okay. Sorry. President Ronald Reagan?

Yeah, that one. Not the other one. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Okay, cool. Thank you. Thank you. Now I can move forward.

And Robbie eventually gets so scared of the clown and the tree and the lightning that he runs into his parents' room and he's says i'm so scared his dad picks him up takes him back to his room and says like oh that tree has been here for so long and like it's here protecting us like don't worry like it's a it's a um it's an old wise tree and it like knows us and he's like i think robbie says like, yeah, like knows everything about me. That's what I don't like about it or something. Whoa. Great parenting tactic.

Also, checkmate, Robbie. And Robbie is scared that the lightning storm is getting closer. And so his dad teaches him that trick where you count the seconds between the flash and the thunder and they do it together and the first it's only three seconds between you know one mississippi two mississippi three mississippi and he's like i bet next time it'll be four mississippi and it is and robbie relaxes a little bit and he says that means the storm's moving away and you know they could we're gonna be okay and so robbie relaxes and oh he's a good dad his dad's able to tuck him in and he is good is he a hot dad he is a hot dad craig t nelson i like um he's in so much stuff and i probably wouldn't have recognized him because he's so young, but yeah, to answer your question,

yes, he's hot. We don't even need to do a poll. No poll necessary. No poll necessary. He is hot. But I don't know too much about him, but I just know he's in a ton of shit. You guys would probably recognize him.

Craig T. Nelson. How could I forget his name? That middle T. But then we get a loud lightning crash and there's like a jump cut to both of the kids now in the parents bed they're all four sleeping and then the tv turns on and the star spangled banner starts playing and then, it finishes and cuts to static. And again, only Carol Ann wakes up. And she climbs out of bed and goes and kneels in front of the TV static.

And kind of some little lights are happening in the static. Some unusual movement. And she goes to press her hand against the tv and a smoke ghost hand like shoots out of the tv a huge hand and kind of moves down on top of her family and then a big like light shoots out of the TV into the wall above their bed and the ground starts shaking and

the rest of the family wakes up and it's an earth they're thinking earthquake and they turn to look at Carol Ann by the TV and Carol Ann says they're here. Oh, no.

Classic line. Just what you want to hear from your small child. We cut to the next morning and we see that they're having some construction in their backyard. They are putting in a swimming pool. Nice. having some construction in their backyard they are putting in a swimming pool nice um but right now it's just like a big dirt hole um and we get emily's favorite part where the mom diane asks carolyn carolyn what did you mean last night when you said they're here and carolyn says the tv people the tv people are here and you know diane's weirded out for sure but it's like it's a morning they're

eating breakfast it's kind of hectic you know that it's the least scary time of day carolyn runs to the tv as if she's, like, going to go turn on cartoons. It's on, like, the news channel or whatever. And she instead flips it to static and then just, like, leans in close watching the static. Ew, nope. And as the kids, like, get up to leave the table, she yells at them, like, I always tell you guys, push your chairs in. And she goes and pushes all their chairs in um and as she's kind of walking around the house cleaning up after people

uh they have a golden retriever that's very cute and and it's barking at the spot in the wall above her bed where we saw the light shoot into and then she goes she's like okay get out of there gets the dog down goes back downstairs and all the chairs are pushed out really far from the table no that came back i can't believe that came back wow they're really using the whole buffalo and you know she again is like oh my god robbie carol ann how many times do i have to tell you she pushes them all back in and then she goes into the kitchen to go under the sink for something and when she comes back up stands up all the chairs are stacked in like a pyramid on top of the like defying gravity on top of the dining table and she's like oh now she knows that her kids are not doing it. Nobody is in the room but her. And these chairs are basically floating.

And then it does like a cross dissolve to basically the same kitchen empty with the dad giving a tour of a house that's for sale. tour of a house that's for sale and i i like initially thought it was like they were selling their house because the chair thing was too spooky but as it said in the trailer it's like all the houses are the same so he's a realtor and every every house in the whole neighborhood is like same floor plan everything looks the same suburbia boring cookie cutter you know he then comes home after work and diane is kind of uh he seems really excited about something actually she says come here come here come here come inside come inside i have to show you something and she's drawn a circle on the kitchen floor. And she puts a chair in it. And she says, stay here, stay here.

Watch, watch what happens. And the chair slides from one side of the room to the other. And he's kind of like, what's going on? And then she says, no, no, it's so cool. It's so cool. Look at this. You can like, it's spirits. They're doing it. And you can like feel them like look carol ann sit in the circle sit in the circle

makes her daughter sit in the circle and carol carol ann moves from one side of the room to the other and she says you know steve try it you can sit in the circle too they'll do it to you you like feel them it's warm and he's like no like I'm not doing that feels like a great tactic honestly to be like no no I'm excited about it I love this I love this keep doing it I want this cool way

I want this I like this and it's so like unexpected in horror to have it be like especially from this suburban mom to be like, yes, ghosts! Unless she's obviously like brainwashed already or her brain has been affected by the aliens. Or no, she's just down. She's super naive and down. I think she's just down.

She's like, this is the most interesting thing I've ever seen. I think that's kind of what it is. I've grown up in the same houses that look all the same that don't feel like a community mind you it's not like we're friends with our neighbors like you're still very alone there that's so sad and it's more about it's more about status right it's like i want to be able to afford to live in this neighborhood. Yeah. And, like, build a pool. Right. Right. And so I think we've got ourselves another scathing critique of capitalism.

Every time. Can you believe it? Every time. You know, do they do it consciously? I don't know. I don't think so. But it's there. Yeah.

I mean, I can't imagine Steven Spielberg being an anti-capitalist, but. Maybe. If he is, he better fucking speak now speak now Steven speak now Steven we know you listen um but okay so the dad is like less thrilled also the dad's name is

Steven I thought that was very funny what's the name of a man? Like a strong male character. Likeable and hot. Someone hot, likable, not intimidating, but you also want to be his friend. Steven. So he's, I mean, he's not scared, really, but he's not, like, pumped. And so.

He's not pumped. And it's nighttime now, and they're tired. Dad says, okay, we'll just figure it out in the morning. Let's not go in the kitchen tonight. Then we cut to Robbie in his room. There's a lightning storm happening again again so

he's counting the lightning and it's unfortunately getting closer he's doing 1-1000 2-1000 3-1000 1-1000 2-1000 it's getting closer and then he's looking at the tree outside getting

lit up by that lightning and the tree bursts through the window hands come out of the branches grab him out of his bed and pull him out of the window carol ann is then alone in the room her brother has been pulled out of their room the closet by a tree by a tree uh the closet door bursts open there's really really bright white light coming out of the closet and it seems to have some kind of like gravitational pull like vortexy thing and things are being pulled out of the room into the closet so that clown doll flies in there thank god um god things are flying off the walls carol ann is holding on to her bed uh headboard and slipping can't hold and the parents have heard the crash they've seen they ran upstairs and saw that Robbie's gone.

So they were running outside to go save him. The tree is basically eating him. He's screaming like, help me, like it's eating me. They're trying to pull him out of it. They get him out. The tree then wraps a branch around his leg and is trying to pull him back in. It's pouring rain they're all muddy and slippery and screaming and uh we see cut back to carol ann holding onto the headboard

she loses her grip she gets sucked into the closet and all the furniture gets like the beds and it's now just an empty room they they finally break robbie free and the whole tree gets brought out of the ground uprooted by a tornado seemingly what this is all the worst possible thing stacking one on top of each other and robbie has gotten saved at the last moment and they're like oh my god I feel like Dana the teenage daughter runs out at this moment and is like oh my god a tornado like she just always runs

in at the last minute and like says just a one line yeah what's happening um but so they're all relieved they got they saved Robbie oh everything's fine everything's fine and then they're like where's carol ann and run up into the bedroom she's not in there they

see all the mattresses like uh leaned up against the closet door and they're screaming like oh my god she's in there we gotta dig her out of there they're throwing things, oh my God, she's in there. We got to dig her out of there. They're throwing things out of the way. They see a blanket over kind of a limp body and they're like, oh my God, no, no. And they pull it up and it's the clown. It's the clown. We all saw it coming.

We knew it. But so Carol Ann is not in there. She is not in there. She is not missing anywhere. Man, we really went from have you had any strange occurrences to the wildest thing in like

an hour? It really ramps it up. No, that's like the first act where we've got I mean like an hour of their timelines in life. Oh yeah like just well let's just not go in the kitchen that'll solve it and then when they're looking for carol ann one thing that they had mentioned earlier is they're scared of her falling into the swimming pool because it's it's it's just a mud a dirt hole but when it's raining it's mud

and it's slippery and so it's just a really deep muddy hole that fills with water and so they run and the dad runs in dives in and she's not in there and robbie walks into the parents' room where the TV static is on and hears, hello. Oh, no. And he can hear Carol Ann yelling and knows that it's coming from the TV. And so he's freaking out. And then we cut to Steve talking to three kind of mediums, psychic people. And he looks like shit. He's got like bags under his eyes.

Looks like he hasn't slept in a long time. And the mediums are like, you know, we can help you. And the mediums are like, you know, we can help you, but you have to be really, really open to like some strange occurrences that might happen. And he's kind of like rolls his eyes like, yeah, no strange occurrences have been happening. I just want my daughter back. Like, no, yeah, my son was getting eaten by a tree and my daughter's inside the television. So let's say I'm open to it. Right. Exactly. and my daughter's inside the television so let's say i'm open to it right exactly um so they come over to the house to investigate and the room door is closed to the door the room that was robbie and carol ann's room and he says we don't go in that room anymore and the paranormal researchers are

kind of like well you know we're professionals like we're gonna go in there and he's like okay suit yourself they open the door and everything in the room is floating in circles making noise the clown is like giggling. Things are like animated. Like all the dolls are like alive and like dancing and floating. There's a record player or a record. There's a record being played by a protractor. So not only is it a record player for the bingo, but it's kind of reminiscent of a 30 Days of Night using a strange object to play a record. A strange object. Instead of a vampire's fingernail, a protractor.

You can play a record with anything. And so the paranormal researchers that thought they were real hot shit, we cut, like smash cut to the woman who's kind of the main one, an older woman dr lesh is her name uh drinking tea her hand like trembling and the teacup and saucer like clanking and clanking around like this is the craziest shit she's ever seen who uses a saucer i'm sorry but like when was that a thing is that still a thing do people still use saucers? Yeah. I feel like Jenna does.

Honestly, I like a saucer. God freaks. You put your spoon on it. That's pretty much it. You put your spoon on it. It's perfect for a rain day. It's honestly perfect for a rain day. Yes.

But so they're sitting around the dining room table now, kind of. Dr. Lesh is kind of explaining, OK, like it might be a poltergeist rather than a classic haunting. We don't know yet. And she says a poltergeist is traditionally connected to an individual where a haunting is connected to an area. an individual where a haunting is connected to an area. Okay. I like to have a definition. Is a poltergeist? That's not what, because Peeves is a poltergeist in Harry Potter and he's not connected to a human, right? Correct. Maybe there are different definitions of poltergeist. Also, you know, J.K. Rowling's wrong about some things. True. J.K. Rowling has been known to be wrong about a few other things. That's true.

But I will say the rules in this movie are a little weird and inconsistent at times. So they could both be wrong. J.K. Rowling and Steven Spielberg. If you could believe it, they could both be wrong. They could both be wrong. I will entertain that possibility so they're like okay well let's see if we can reach out to carolyn and so they turn on the tv static and diane says carolyn it's mommy can you hear me and we hear carolyn's voice saying where are you? I'm afraid of the light.

The Dr. Lesh says, tell her don't go into the light. Don't do that. And Diane says, like, just stay away from the light, baby. Stay away from the light. And things in the room start kind of like a wind starts blowing and it gets kind of loud and rumbly in the room. And then this cloud kind of opens in the ceiling and all this jewelry falls out into the middle of the living room, like gold watches and necklaces, bracelets. Very bizarre. And then Carol Ann starts yelling, there's somebody here. There's somebody here. Help me here help me mommy help me mommy and then there's a big gust of wind in the room that goes in like looks like you know diane's hair like flies back and she kind of ecstatically says like she was she went

through me i felt her in me she's like smell, smell me. I smell like Carol Ann. I smell like her. I smelled her like I felt her. And she's so excited. And then then like another big crash happens or something. And they're like, let's go. We've got to go up in the room. We've got to go check if she's in there. And one of the other paranormal researchers has been in there kind of checking it out. And at that moment, he runs out and says, something bit me. And then lifts up his shirt. And he has like a foot and a half long bite mark along his side and like along his ribs. It's very big.

And like along his ribs. It's very big. And they're all like, okay, we're all sleeping downstairs tonight. So they all set up camp conjuring style in the living room. Everyone's sleeping in the same room. But they've got all their stuff set up still. They've got like cameras rolling. You know, regular paranormal researcher shit. And they fall asleep and one of the researchers uh his name is marty uh he's like i'm gonna get something to eat tells the tells the lead dr lesh

like i'm gonna go find something this is the guy who got bit yes okay and this is the scene that made me call my mom to come pick me up so get ready okay you mean the man who got bit going alone to the different room at night is gonna turn out poorly that is right that is exactly what i mean um but okay so he goes into the kitchen he grabs a drumstick out of the refrigerator. He's holding the drumstick in his mouth. And he hears something. And on the kitchen counter, there's a piece of steak, just like a T-bone steak. And then it kind of starts crawling like an inchworm crawling across the counter.

And he's looking at it. And then the steak bursts open and all these maggots start coming out of it. And then he pulls the drumstick out of his mouth and it's filled with maggots too. No. And then he runs to the bathroom to, he's like spitting in the sink like poof poof and looks in the mirror and there's like something weird on his cheek and his skin starts falling

off and he starts oh my god he starts peeling his his skin off his face off, down to the skull, ripping his own skin off, like all off of his face, exposing like his jaw, his eye sockets, screaming like the whole time he does it. And he's screaming, he's screaming, he's screaming. And then it cuts back to he's like fine. And he was just hallucinating it or something. That is fucking terrifying. And then we see in the living room the other researcher. His name is Ryan is sleeping next to the cameras and we see that the camera I I guess, picks up some motion and kind of turns to film the top of the stairs and a light is coming down the stairs and some smoke is like

coming out of the bedroom. And then we see basically a kind of um angelic looking ghost it's like a a woman in a white kind of dress floating down the stairs it doesn't seem evil um they wake up and they're all kind of looking at like oh my god like this is kind of beautiful. Are we scared? Are we not scared? Is the camera rolling? Then it disappears. They roll it back. They got it on camera. There's actually even more than just the one ghost on camera that they didn't see. Diane is like, okay, well, Robbie, you're going to go stay at your grandma's house. I don't think this is a good place for you to be. house. Like, I don't think this is a good place for you to be. Dana, the other daughter, also leaves to go stay with a friend. They congregate back in the dining room, the parents and the paranormal researchers. They're inspecting the jewelry that they found, the watches and bracelets

and whatnot. And they're like, some of this stuff's really old some of this stuff's pretty new like just trying to i don't know figure out what they're what they've got here and uh dr lesh has to leave and she says i'm leaving ryan here marty won't be to a scene of steve meeting with his boss the the owner of the real estate company i guess and he's showing him this hill that he wants to develop on like build on and is like this could be your new house right here and steve is like well that'll ruin everybody else's view like it'll be nice for everyone here and he's like well you don't have to worry about that like you'll live here so who cares and there's a cemetery right there and he's like well what about this cemetery and he's, we'll just move it. We've already got authority to move it. And he's like, well,

have we done this before? And he says, we've done it before. It's not a big deal. We did it at your house. As a matter of fact, there it is. There it is.

Don't move a cemetery. Why? Why do that? But OK, so the other paranormal or Dr. Lesh is like, I've got someone who's so good. We're going to bring her in. I know the actress's name is Zelda Rubinstein. She is four foot three. And Steve, she was in the trailer.

She's awesome. And Steve is like making kind of shitty remarks like some Wizard of Oz joke and like oh we're gonna trust this lady and she's like upstairs way in another room and she's like I can hear you like thank you very much

like she seemed great yeah she's really cool also like we're gonna trust this short lady like where what is the right what's the reasoning there right like he's just being a dick go fuck themselves yeah so she comes in and she seems to really know her shit she's like okay um you guys all stay away from me you're all blocking the frequencies like i know like she's she's walking around she she feels the energy she's like oh yeah this house oh yeah i feel it she tells them you know there's no death there's only a transition um the spirits in your house are drawn to carol

ann's life force and light and carol ann has to help them cross over like they're not malicious they're not malevolent it's they're just stuck here and they're trying to cling to her but she can help them get to the other side

and then she says but one more thing there is also a very evil presence there as well. So headline. Don't worry. Don't worry. It's all really, really nice and great. And it's no problem except for the one really big problem.

Bearing the lead for sure. But it's manageable, right? We can manage this evil as she says that the the the evil presence is using carol ann to restrain the others so basically they're using he's it's using carol ann as like a magnet to keep the others away from the light because they're more attracted to carol ann than to the light you know this logic is after life shit yeah who's to say it's in the bible it's in the bible ever heard of it just read about it read about it do your own research then there's like a very funny shot of i'm gonna call her zelda because i can't remember her character name but it's like a slow push in on her it's very like hero shot and she's like let's go save your daughter this like cool like call to action moment and then we cut to like a

gearing up montage of them like getting a big rope tying a rope up and like drawing some symbols on tennis balls we don't know what that's for yet but they've clearly they've clearly got a plan and then they call out to carol ann she's not responding and it seems just kind of funny um zelda's saying which one is she which one of you is she more afraid of and they're the parents like, what? Like, neither of us. Like, we're good parents. And Diane says, well, like, Steve decides the punishments. And she's like, Steve, tell her you're going to give her a spanking if she doesn't come here right now.

And he's like, I've never spanked her before in my life. And she's like, tell her or you'll never see her again. It's like a really bizarre, like cranked up to 11, like, tell your daughter you're gonna spank her or she's gonna die. He's like, he's like, Carol Ann, get down here. I'm gonna spank you so hard. He's clearly never given this threat before. My hand, your butt. You might hit your butt. You know how it goes.

It's going to happen like it does. And so it does work, though, and it gets her attention, and it's apparently breaking her away from the malevolent presence. her away from the malevolent presence and this is all just so um very bizarre and i don't totally understand the rules of it so i'm sorry if i get it wrong but uh it seems to me that zelda's plan is to break carol ann away from the malevolent spirit so that we can go in and save her, but at the same time have her run close enough to the light so that the rest of the spirits in there will cross over. So like saving everybody at the same time, getting like the lost souls to cross. And then at the last minute, yanking out Carol Ann. That's a lot of pressure for what, like a five year old? Yeah, it's a lot.

Also, if I'm those parents, I'm going, all I care about is my daughter. Right. Yeah, let's get Carol Ann out first before we save all these other people. So they're now back in carol ann and robbie's bedroom the closet bright white light is happening again it's you know supernatural activities happening things are flying around the room they throw one of the marked tennis balls into the closet it falls out of that kind of portal that the jewelry fell out of in the living room and they're like okay great and then they throw a rope into it and the rope comes out through the hole in the ceiling too so they've got two they're holding it on each end so they

have like a taut rope running through seemingly a portal in the house and um diane's like i'm gonna go it's my daughter i'm gonna go grab her and so she walks in and zelda steve is holding the other end of the rope and zelda says like steve when i tell you pull pull them out she is telling zelda is telling carol ann to go into the light um but the parents both know that she can't go fully into the light because it's dangerous and so they're both really scared and as the dad hears that the daughter is getting close to the light. He panics and is like, no, pulls back. Zelda says, not yet, not yet. Steve pulls it back.

And Diane and Carol Ann fall from the portal in the ceiling, covered in goop, very rebirth-y looking. And they're both unconscious Zelda says get them into the bath apparently they've run a bath they get them into the bath they're washing them and both of them kind of wake up come to Carol Ann sees her dad and says hi daddy and they have a little laugh. They're so relieved. Oh, my God. This big climactic moment. We did it. Zelda smiles, says, this house is clean.

They brought back something bad with them. We cut to them packing up the house. They're moving. They're done here. Yeah, get off of the cemetery house. Yeah, Steve is like, okay, I'm gonna go quit my job real quick, then I'll be back, and we're leaving tonight. If the kids are tired, let them sleep, and we'll just load them into the car sleeping, that's fine. He leaves, and Diane has two big

gray streaks in her hair now from crossing over into a portal, I suppose. Diane goes and puts the kids in bed. And after she puts them in bed, she goes to the bathroom to dye her hair. So the mom's in the bath and the kids are falling asleep in their rooms. We see the camera closes up on Robbie's face. His eyes are closed. He's like just finally turned away from the creepy clown on the chair.

And we hear a thud. And he looks up and the clown is gone. It's gone. It's gone. The clown, of course. And he leans over the side of his bed. No. And looks under his bed

slowly and nothing's there and he sits back up and it's right behind him and his arm wraps around his neck and pulls him under the bed

and he disappears. Oh my god. We can't ever keep track of these dang kids. Oh my god. They're always disappearing into places. A lot of them's always going through a portal. I mean ugh. There's so many portals.

And then the mom is laying in her bed and then kind of hears a commotion. But just as she starts to kind of get up, a force like pushes her back and starts trying to take her clothes off. And she then is like flung up against the wall behind her bed and then up and onto the ceiling. Quite similar to the Nightmare on elm street scene filmed the same way in a rotating room so it looks really good the closet bursts open again the bright lights

coming out and it's kind of turning into a weird goopy portal it looks like stranger things portal and the bedroom door their bedroom door locks so the mom can't get in. She eventually breaks free of whatever's holding her in her room. She runs to the kids' room. She touches the doorknob and it shocks her back, flings her down the stairs. She tries to run back up the stairs.

It shocks her again. She's really trying to get into this room and then eventually this uh huge like monster ghost skeleton thing like bursts out of the kid's door and roars at her in such a way that sounds exactly like the mgGM lion roar. And I actually looked it up and it became the MGM lion roar, if I'm not mistaken. Like this came first and it is the exact same sound effect, but it was used in this first. What? It's definitely a lion sound effect.

Fascinating. I just thought that was interesting. I was like, wait a second. I know this sound. I know this roar. I recognize that roar anywhere. So she can't get into the kid's room. She goes to go run for help.

It's raining again. She runs into the backyard. She slips in the mud and she slips into that muddy pool. No. Filled with rainwater. that muddy pool no filled with rainwater and as she's kind of slipping and sliding and trying to get out a skeleton floats up and then another skeleton and then a full coffin comes up and like opens and more like skeletons come out and here's the other actor's rights thing that i didn't tell you guys yet they're real human skeletons no no and they didn't tell the actors that no what no

yep and that's part of why they think this movie is cursed um yeah yeah i think so i think they put real human remains in a muddy fucking pool for a shot oh that's a very upsetting for so many reasons it's bad where did they just do they like purchase real human skeletons i think anything goes in the 80s. Anything goes. Those were living people. Yeah, they just robbed some graves. Those were human beings. Those people would have loved to be in this movie. They get to be in a Spielberg movie. Honestly, I'd do it.

When I die, put me in a Spielberg movie. I want to be in an extra after death. Yeah, like when they say, do you want to be an extra after death. Yeah, like when they say, do you want to be an organ donor? Do you also want to live? No, I don't want to be an organ donor. Do not give my body to science. Do give it to Spielberg. Do make me an extra

in any kind of film. Wow, that's really fucked up. They did a horrible job moving the cemetery, quote unquote. Doesn't sound like they did much moving. Yeah. So the neighbor hears the commotion, comes and helps her out of the pool. They run back inside.

The hallway kind of gets impossibly long. A little vertigo zoom. Spielberg loves his vertigo zooms. She runs to the end. She gets to her children's room. Coffins and skeletons are still bursting out of like now all over, like in the whole house through the floorboards. It's really wild. There's just everything's happening in this house. The lights are going crazy flashing. The dad comes home and sees from the outside that, you know, some shit is going down inside. The realtor is outside or the head of his company, I guess his boss, because I guess they've just had a meeting where he quit and he shakes him and he says you didn't move the cemetery you only moved the headstones and they were like he was

like i thought that counted um but so the dad runs inside and goes and um the the mom you know i'm not i'm not gonna lie to you guys i didn't write down this final scene and I don't totally remember. But I think the mom is able to grab both of the kids before they're sucked into this little portal. I think we get one more little monster yelling from the portal, maybe an MGM roar again. And the dad grabs them they all pile into the 1981 oldsmobile custom cruiser and dana gets home at this very moment with her big hickey on her neck and says, what is happening? Iconic. And they just grab her and pull her into the car and they speed off. And we see the real estate boss guy looking at the house like sobbing.

And then the house lifts up out of the ground and implodes so it twists up and like disappears in an explosion in an effect that's pretty cool it looks pretty good um and They've driven away and then they get to a motel and check into this motel. The music's died down. No more dialogue. They check in. They go in. They close the door. We're pulling out a little bit, but then the door opens again.

They roll out the TV and they close it again. Oh, that's funny. And that's the end can't stay away that's that's the end oh wow wow wait i don't know whether it's because you like primed us for it or not but the scene with marty's face falling off is like by far the scariest scene. And it actually looks like so bad and cheesy. Like it looks so fake now that I'm not eight, but it really is. It's the thing that just stuck with me the most.

And probably even in watching it the second time, it's like, it's also just so different from all of the rest of the scares. And it doesn't really fit different from all of the rest of the scares and it doesn't really fit into the logic of the like there's no other part where the ghost like gets in your head or the poltergeist or whatever it is there's all like i also had a big question of like okay so it wasn't a poltergeist then because if a haunting is an area and this like is an area because it was a cemetery although i guess maybe the main

evil one was a poltergeist so it's a poltergeist and a haunting i just had some follow-up questions i suppose yeah i agree with that like it because but it feels very spielberg where it's like i'll do it all yeah like it's just like a little over the top and feels very you know like showy yeah was this movie um like very this is a very successful movie it was very successful but it came out in the same year as et and it was quite overshadowed by et also because this i believe was rated r and i think et was pg-13 um they were both nominated for oscars in a lot of the same categories visual effects i think and maybe music and sound design et won all of them yeah i mean et is great yeah so is this like in an age i guess now i think about horror movies as being like one of the reasons why they're so successful and people always want to make them is because it's so cheap to make them.

It's something we talk about all the time. Low budget. But like, I feel like this is like capitalizing on an age of horror movie where it's like the budget is still kind of high. Yeah. You know, like it's like even though the effects are so cheesy and bad now i'm sure at the time it was like hard and expensive they were doing a lot to me yeah they're doing a lot the tree rotating room can't be cheap yeah that's true a tree eating a boy a tree eating a boy? Real human corpses? Yeah.

They paid premium for them to be real. Top dollar. Sammy, I loved every second of that. Thank you so much for facing your fears. That's probably a big deal. It was a great way to start October and I feel happy about it.

Which bracket category did this fall into oh you know what okay so this was movies set in october great question they never mentioned that at all i don't i can't say for certain that it is i was like we don't even talk about october and i'll be honest with you listeners i just looked at an a wikipedia list of movies set in october and this was on it and so i didn't do any further research as we mentioned we don't do we don't do that research um but it turns out that i don't necessarily think this is set in october but it's a good important one that we've needed to do so either way yeah it worked out starting off october with a bang what is our next category for the bracket going to be we haven't chosen yet um also i i guess it's by the time

this episode comes out we'll already have needed you guys to start voting so just yeah i guess what we should say is just yeah keep keep checking on our Instagram and seeing all October long. We're going to be running our brackets and you'll get to be voting for our upcoming episodes. So stay freaking tuned. We need to hear from you. And if we I have a suggestion. If we reach 100 patrons, which I'm not sure if we will or not, but if we do, we will do a bonus episode. Not sure if we will or not, but if we do, we will do a bonus episode.

And something that has been suggested by a couple of our followers is that we should do Hocus Pocus. That's fun. Scared me when I was a kid. Honestly, I'm down. I love Hocus Pocus. I would love to do Hocus Pocus. It's going to make me miss my cats. Oh. Isn't the cat not a man

it is a hot man I'm gonna get confused named like Thackeray or something I think that is his name Thackeray um alright guys what did we learn anything

um don't have a TV in your house TV is bad you know I think that All right, guys, what did we learn? Anything? Don't have a TV in your house. I feel like not only is that still true today, but it's been like incredibly compounded by phones and Internet. And I do feel like I am on screens almost every waking moment. And that is a scary thing. So, yeah, I believe that message that we should all cut back on our screen time. We should cut back on our screen. That's true. That's a good message.

Also, an interesting point for a film to make. To be like like stop watching yeah true no are there any voices I you know I don't think so we just play that we edit in the MGM lion roar at the end of this episode okay yay well then

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