Too Scary; Didn't Watch - POSSESSION

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

One extremely distressing dissolution of a marriage, two squid-like creatures, a child named Bob, and a young, hot Sam Neil -- we're recapping Andrzej Żuławski's 1981 cult-classic POSSESSION! This film was BANNED and labeled a "video nasty" for several years in the UK. You're going to have to listen all the way to the end to find out why :( Join us as we try to understand a movie that is basically Eraserhead meets Marriage Story??  TRAILER Recap begins @ 25:50 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And this week's movie is going to be very interesting. Oh!

I'm intrigued, I'm intrigued. I don't know what happened in it. Oh, really? That's kind of fun. But we're going to do our best. But before we get to that, we have a little bit of haunted housekeeping, which is that we are going to be doing a live show on our Patreon.

We are going to be recapping Evil Dead Rise. Evil Dead 2013 was so bad. It was so bad. I can't believe we're doing another Evil Dead so soon. You guys really struggled. And Henley, Evil Dead Rise, I'm so sorry to tell you, has children in it. There's children in it. What the actual

fuck? Yeah. So it's gonna be worse. What the actual fuck? Gonna be worse. What the actual fuck? But that show will be on April 30th at 4pm Pacific, 7pm Eastern, and will be accessible to our patrons at April 30th at 4 p.m. Pacific, 7 p.m. Eastern.

And we'll be accessible to our patrons at the Tony fucking Collette's Inner Circle level or CEOs of Waystar Royco, which probably sounds confusing to people who aren't familiar with our Patreon. But when you get there, you'll see those are the names of the tiers. So it's basically starting at the $10 tier, which $10 is what we charge for live shows regularly. And if you pay that for this, you also get a month of access to all of our bonus episodes and trailer reactions. So really, it's a great deal. It's a great deal. So you can join our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. And it will be, if you're not available at that

exact time, it will then become a video episode that will stay up there. So you can take a little look and get that information. I have to steal myself. Yeah, I'm very excited. But yeah, you guys are probably not going to have as good of a time as I am.

No, I don't think I'll have a very good time. You know what's really sad is that I don't even have my normal escape hatch, which is a goddamn tequila soda, to fall back on. I really am sorry about that. Can you believe that? soda to fall back on. I really am sorry about that. Can you believe that? I mean, at least I got through Terrifier being able to drink straight scotch out of a

water glass. Joel's really been getting into the wide world of non-alcoholic beer. Tim loves non-alcoholic beer. So, you know, you could give that a little try just if you want to feel like you're sipping on a little something. I don't know that that's really going to scratch that itch for you.

But I've been really pleasantly surprised. Maybe a little bitters and soda with some lime in it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe just a little touch of bitters. No, I think that I'm strong enough to do it on my own. You guys. You are strong enough.

This is what I know that you are. The lesson is I'm strong enough. You never needed it to begin with no i didn't exactly right i did not joel was talking about when we the evil dead 2013 even in 2013 that we just did and that he was like sammy is the demon she is having so much fun at torturing you guys. She is the demon and I can't stop thinking about it. And it's true. Absolutely unhinged. Doesn't even hesitate to

go into unnecessary detail. There is truly detail we don't need to know. Some of it we don't need. I tell you the things that stick out to me. Okay. If only you could see how big

it's a ear to ear grin. It's like the movie Smile where it takes up your whole face. So yeah, join us if you want to see me really delighting

in your guys' suffering. Yep, yep, yep. On April 30th at four slash seven and okay did anything scary happen to us this week you guys i just have something i need to tell emily which is huge huge okay oh my god um tim and i started watching top chef yes wow where did you start where are you guys okay so i tried to start season six after your conversation but i i couldn't do it i was like i i already know what happens i i can't watch the season knowing who wins so i just skipped on to season seven okay remind me what city we're in in season season seven. We're in D.C. And D.C.

OK. OK. There's there's give me some names. Angelo. OK. OK. I. OK.

The thing I need to say is that I have I can't shut the fuck up while I'm watching this show. Literally, I just have a streaming commentary to Tim while we're watching Top Chef. I have never been like this with a show before in my life. It's while we're watching Top Chef. I have never been like this with a show before in my life. It's a social activity watching Top Chef. I can't shut up. I'm literally have something to say about everyone. And what are the kinds of things you're saying? Loop me in. I want to be a part of it. Okay. Well, everyone's personality is so on the surface immediately because they're all crazy, big personality, egotistical chefs. Yeah. I have really feel like I've really started to understand what chefs are like. Chefs have

massive egos. It's crazy. It's all about them all the time. And they're immediately put under pressure to do very intense things under a short period of time. you see it it comes it comes out right away there's no hiding anything and it's so funny how not self-aware people are that i think is the most hilarious part there's this one person named kelly who's really pissing me off and um she just she makes she's constantly talking about how great she is at everything and how she does everything and she can't see everyone's getting really angry at her for being super self-involved and she doesn't see it at all and it's just right away the dynamic is immediately there there's no revving up to it and it's those types of things i'm really enjoying myself i i'm having a great time i can't wait to watch more we've watched like the first only the first like five episodes how many episodes are per season

like 15 usually i think okay who are your judges right now like who who's oh eric i'm looking this up eric repair is a guest judge a lot you Sam Cass, who was the White House National Nutrition Policy Advisor, who I'd read a lot about and didn't realize he's very hot. He's very attractive. That was fun. But it's also kind of depressing because it's taking place in like peak Obama years in D.C. And so there's a lot of political commentary that you're like oh they go to they also they go to mount fernan one day and there's like no commentary about racism whatsoever it's been really interesting we that's the thing about watching it from you know back when it we

started to now like we recognize when we're like oh my god we're in the trump presidency now like we like you can like feel it and they do start to like talk about more things. It's, it's, it's really interesting to watch reality TV from years past because you would get reminded of what was going on in the world at that time. And it is, it starts to feel really strange.

Watch. Also, I will say like, we've already told you it's weird to go back and like look people up on social media and be like, Oh my God, fucking 15 years have passed. And it's like, it's a roller coaster.

You're in. You're in for a roller coaster, hen. But thank you for bringing that to me, to my table, if you will. Wow. Oh, my God. I can't wait for you to fall in love with Padma and Gail and Tom. Padma is the hottest person. Padma is so hot.

OK. Also, like I like I'm Gail Simmons I'm in love with Gail Simmons I would like to be her best friend I can't wait for you to get there on that journey fucking Gail is incredible I love them all she's so far she's very up front she just tells it like it is she doesn't hold back I admire that about her

yeah and I want to be Padma Lakshmi when I grow up I want to get reincarnated be Padma Lakshmi When I grow up I want to get reincarnated as Padma Lakshmi That would be nice I'd like that I think that would be nice Okay so that's my big weekly update You guys

Well I just wanted to give the listeners An update on Convict All the love for Convict made me so happy People love Convict He's so happy people love convict he's in the best moments of of his life right now i we discovered that our so we live in like a back house and the front house has also adopted convict as their outdoor cat and um our neighbor put out like a little bath mat for him one day we saw she made out of a trader joe's bag like a little cat tent situation and then the other day we saw she got a full-blown big plush

cat bed that sits on her back porch now it's like under an overhang so when it rains he can be there and he's just he's so he's never had this much luxury in his whole life he now i like got got worked my way up to being able to pet him without him running away or freaking out and now now he knows what that is and so every time i walk by he wants to be pet he'll follow us to the door which joel's totally freaked out he's like he's gonna try to come in he's gonna try to come in it's like so nervous about convict trying to sneak his way into our home because once again he is completely nasty and we definitely don't want our cats um getting i don't know probably fleas or whatever else convict has going on um but it's really cute and really sweet and i think he's like absolutely in heaven right now and is gonna

it's gonna be a perfect little last chapter of his life and it makes me very very happy oh that makes me happy too what a relief it's really it's really sweet we love convict we love sweetie i'm very happy for him yeah it's nice It's good Well mine is not so nice Or good Oh no No it's just yesterday I watched a Documentary series Called Evil Genius

Have you guys seen that? I have not I kind of remember when it came out I think it was pretty popular I think it came out Five or so years ago something like that and it's about maybe you guys will remember this it's so upsetting i'm sorry oh no this is how i this okay this is always me in the podcast in the game like wayne whether i talk about something really upsetting or not. Yeah, because it really, really ruined my day. Oh, no.

Okay, give it to me. So it's about this person who robbed a bank with a bomb strapped to them, but they were a hostage, essentially. So they had been fitted with a bomb and had to walk into a bank and hand the teller this note saying, I have a bomb. It will explode if you don't give me $250,000. And then after he gets the money, they don't have access to the safe. So he only gets like $8,000. And the notes lead him on this scavenger hunt that are to get keys to unlock the bomb this is like some saw oh my god this is real life saw yeah it's like real life saw and

the cops pick him up before he's able to finish the scavenger oh god oh god oh god and so there's just footage of him like pleading with the cops being like, please, like, this is real. This is real. This is real. And he explodes. And. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's so sad. When was this?

It was in 2003. And I vaguely actually remember people who did it to him. I don't want to spoil the documentary. I guess it's a real thing that happened. Okay. Huge spoiler just happened, Sammy. No, that's the first five minutes of the doc series. It starts with that footage. You see him pleading and then it says he blew up.

You see him explode. It shows him explode. No, it does not. Yes, it does. It does not. Are any of the policemen injured? No, because they didn't realize that he has a bomb on him so they're all they're all keeping distance with like their guns pointed at him and he's just being like i'd

like help me help me and they don't know the bomb starts like um ticking down and like beeping and beeping faster and he's like it's gonna explode it's gonna explode it's gonna explode oh my god oh my god oh my god i'm so sorry it's like one of the more upsetting things but the documentary is full of twists and turns also where is this where does it take place um where was this oh my god also i'm sorry but like 250 000 is not a high enough price to do that to some, I'm like... That was the first thought I had, too. It's like $250,000? You're going to put a human person through... Like...

I don't know why that stuck out to me. Yeah, well, clearly this person is like a sadist. Erie, Pennsylvania. So it's, yeah, just like a pretty small town. And, yeah, the people involved are not... Good. Healthy. Not good healthy healthy people how'd they find this person fuck now sorry i'm gonna need maybe we have to do a whole separate thing okay i do want to know how one gets lured into having a bomb put on their well that's the whole that's the whole question oh they don't know how it started like how did this start that's there's the whole question of the show. Oh, they don't know how it started.

Like, how did this start? There's the most mystery around his involvement. The man that died, his name is Brian Wells. How old was he? He was in his 40s, 46. Wow, this is so wild. What on earth? Real life is just so scary whoa whoa whoa i'm gonna need you

to tell me everything and yeah i mean i do i like recommend the doc series i've just told you the most upsetting part about it for sure uh but it was really fascinating and i think well made there's some like moral questions i have about it for some things that they do in terms of uh speaking to one of the like criminals involved oh my god you guys my foot is completely asleep sorry that's the craziest feeling it looked like it just shocked you so much the way that you said that it felt like it was you were saying that it was a result of hearing about this and you put your foot to sleep i just couldn't i was obviously couldn't move while sammy was telling me this deeply upsetting thing i don't know my foot is yeah

normally your feet would have said would have saved you from having to hear when something happens without you noticing and then all of a sudden it's asleep it does feel jarring it's like when did this happen really scary when it goes past the level of being asleep and completely no feeling anymore i told you guys about the time this is so funny um i woke up in the middle of the night and like went to get get out of bed to go to the bathroom and my leg was completely asleep so when i went to stand on it i like fell and i knocked over my cup of water that was next to my bed and then i tried to stand on my other leg and it was also asleep and i just like flopped around in a puddle of water with both of my legs 30 seconds and then I couldn't stop laughing and I just wish more than anything that for some reason that was on film because it was genuinely

the funniest thing that oh my real physical comedy happening in the middle of the night I'm picturing you in a nightgown too like i automatically i'm like oh yeah when you're sleeping you're in a nightgown um that's really funny anywho okay should we talk about this week's movie yes please i suppose we should uh this week's movie is possession it came out in 1981. Hmm. Directed by Andrzej Zulawski, written by Andrzej Zulawski and Frederick Tootin, starring Isabel

Ajani and Sam Neill. Ooh. And it is streaming on Shudder.com. Wow. What do you guys know about this movie? Nothing. Zero. Zero. I actually hadn't heard about it until earlier this year as well. And apparently that's because it was

banned for a while. And then hard to get a hold of after it. They had some releases on DVD and Blu-ray, but it was not easy to find. And it was like a edited down version of it that allowed it to be played in the u.s so there was a version of it that was like 30 minutes

shorter than the full version and so and the unedited cut was released in 2021 in the US. Whoa. And then it was still hard to find on streaming. And so Shudder just acquired it in January of this year. And then there was all this buzz about it. Because it's fucking crazy. Whoa. I'm so crazy. Yeah. So I'll just tell you that.

This recap shall be interesting. this movie has an 86 percent on tomatoes uh 75 on metacritic 7.3 on imdb budget 2.4 million and it made only 1.1 million probably because it was immediately banned everywhere yeah yeah that'll do it and i thought this is funny in you in the uk i didn't know this but when people when movies are banned they're referred to as video nasties wait i think i have heard that when we did the satanic panic stuff oh yes video nasties so funny that's so funny possession was categorized as a video nasty so cute it's such a cute little name makes you really want to watch it uh isabella jenny won best actress at can for this oh wow oh my. Her performance is truly unbelievable.

And both her and Sam Neill go to such, such dark places in this movie. Oh, boy. Sam Neill said it's his personal favorite film of all the movies he's made. Okay, pretty rude to Jurassic Park. Yeah. But they've both talked about how it was the most difficult movie either of them have ever worked on. Sam Neill said, I think I only just escaped that film with my sanity barely intact. And Isabel said it took her years to get over playing this character and that she would never ever play a similar character ever again oh my god andre zolowski wrote it during his divorce this movie is like a dramatized

uh exaggerated divorce movie oh boy and so he was drawing from his real life experiences. And yeah, it's it's really very, very intense. I really liked it. But there was a lot that I don't understand about it. It like has similar to when we did Eraserhead. Like, I think there will be parts of me describing it where it feels like that. Where it's just dreamlike and probably you're not supposed to know it's slightly it's i'd say it's like more anchored in reality but yes then it gets into certainly that area where it's it gets surreal yeah i am very curious yeah i'm very curious to

see what you guys are going to think it is a singular experience the only thing i know is the um the image behind you and this woman is wearing a goddamn white turtleneck like i've never seen before it's not a white turtleneck it's a bandage around her neck and so when bunk my cat got bit on his neck and i wrapped a little white gauze thing around him and I got a few DMs when I posted a picture that said he looks like the woman from Possession. That's funny. There we go. And he did. He did.

Okay, well, should we watch the trailer? Let's do it. Maybe all couples go through this. You have someone yes do you sleep with him yes how long is it gonna last i don't know when i'm from you, I think of you as an animal or a woman. And then I see you again and all this disappears. You know, love isn't something you can just switch from channel to channel. Who is he?

To be in God. Who is he? To be in God. No. It's not a feel good. Not a feel good movie. No, no, no. Not a lot of fun. Not a lot of fun in this one.

No. This looks good, though. It's really good. Really? It looks like it's a well-made movie. Samuel is so hot. He's very hot. And he was, I don't know if it's because we just saw renfield which is not good no uh but he was reminding me of nicholas holt a bit like it's kind of i can see that because both of their they both

have very like piercing eyes and like a sort of floppy quality at least at that point in there. Sort of floppy hotness, you know? Holy shit. Yeah, it feels very ahead of its time. Like, I can imagine in 1981 people being like, what the fuck? Like, we need to ban this movie. Yeah, this is too much. This is too much. You know what?

Some of it was reminding me of, like, when they were fighting, it reminded me of scenes from a marriage story. Yeah, there's definitely some of that.'s been comparisons to the brood and just yeah a lot of the upsetting scenes are obviously as is the case with most horror is just like them arguing and their emotional distress and the pain that they're both really feeling. I don't know. They look like some other

stuff that I would maybe categorize as more upsetting. I would rather watch them argue than some sausage situation, a thing to a neck and maybe... Do we have to? Do we have to do it?

We could talk about Top Chef more. We could wrap it. We could wrap it up right now. We could talk about Top Chef. Let's wrap it up. Hey, this has been great. See you later. See you later.

Yeah. I don't know why anyone needs to own a sausage grinder. Is that more of a thing in the 80s? Let's not. They're also in Germany. They're in Berlinlin west berlin probably more common in germany i would say yeah there's probably a good amount of sausage grinders in berlin good point more sausage grinders per capita was there was there a reason did they give like a

few like a sentence or whatever about why it was banned do you know what i mean like for excessive oh you'll know or something i mean i'm assuming I'll know, but I'm wondering what the reason was that they... That I'm not sure, but I'm sure at the end we can... Maybe just like too upsetting? It's just too upsetting. Not, not, it shouldn't be seen. Things like this aren't meant to exist.

I think you'll, I think you'll have a good idea of why. And I was pretty disappointed to see that there is a child in this as well. That was... There is a child and I was pretty disappointed to see that there is a child in this as well that was there is a child and I was even even I was upset by some even I

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Don't forget, that's HelloBello.com slash TooScary. Go through, move through it quickly. Okay, let's go. I'm fine. I'm fine. Let's do it. Go through it. Move through it quickly. Okay, let's go. I'm fine. I'm fine. Let's do it. Okay, so start with the trigger warning.

Oh, God. Domestic violence and suicide. Suicide's not going to be who you think. Sammy! And just, again, reminder that this movie is batshithit and a lot of this stuff went over my head so we're gonna i'm gonna give you the gist of it but a lot of this movie i didn't understand so great okay here we go okay we start with a husband returning home to his wife this is sam neill and isabella ajani. His name is Mark. Her name is Anna.

So he's coming home after a work trip and things are clearly not good between them. Something has happened. There's a rift and she's like already crying. I feel like we come in like mid their relationship falling apart. We do find out that they have a son named Bob. Is that something like Bob's inside? Bob's just a funny funny name for a kid bob doesn't feel like a child it's always bobby at that age it's always bobby maybe robert bob is is funny and i did like that they'll be like arguing they'll be like well think of bob think of bob that somehow makes it easier to go down it's

more palatable than the famous bob um it's uh set in west berlin this is obviously before the fall of the berlin wall so the divided country as a backdrop for this divorce movie is add some add some nice uh parallels there and the color palette of this movie is very, very blue. She's always wearing a blue dress, basically, and a lot of blue furniture. They have a blue car. It looks beautiful, I think. And so they're arguing that night in bed. And we don't really know what's happened between them she's wanting a divorce he's asking did you cheat on me she says no and she's like i just don't want like anything to do with you and he's kind of feels the same way then the next day she's out of the house and she calls and she and he's asking where she is and she says i just needed to think i needed to be on my own need some like time for

myself and he wants her to come home but she's like no i need to need to think. And he starts rifling through her stuff. Like they're both already seem like, yeah, they're both falling apart and not doing well. And so he's like pacing around the house, like huffing and puffing and like going through all of her things. And he he opens a book of hers and he finds a postcard from another man named Heinrich. That's kind of a love letter. And he calls Anna's best friend Marge and basically confronts her and was like, I know you don't. She's like, I know you don't like me that much, but can you please tell me is Heinrich? Do you know about Heinrich? How long has this been going on? And Marge doesn't deny it, but think basically is like you need to talk to Anna um but but yeah

I mean you're not crazy like this is a real thing then Anna calls back to say that it's over between them between her and Mark she means she's like I've I've thought about it and like this needs to end like we're done and he asks her are you are you cheating on me she says yes he says has it been for a long time she says yes says do you like it she says yes do you sleep with him yes you like it more than me yes she just confirms everything he's like in a little rocking chair rocking back and forth looking very upset he says are there now? Are you calling me from his place? She says yes. Oh, God. And he asks for them to meet up.

Man, that hurts so bad. Yeah. So they meet at a cafe and the staging in this cafe, I feel like is very genius. He's sitting at like a corner table and she sits at a table next to him around the corner. So they're kind of like shoulder to shoulder facing away from each other. And he's furious and he asks, is $800 a month enough in child support? It's like, I'm like gonna leave you and Bob, like I won't be in either of your lives ever again. And she's furious that he says that, like I won't be in either of your lives ever again and she's furious that he says that like how could you say that about your son and like you're his father and he's like I don't want to fuck him up more than he already is like I'm just like not good

to be around right now and I'm gonna like make everything worse and she's obviously getting really angry at this. Pretty cool to be able to just say that. Right? No, it's for the best, actually. I just won't. She gets pissed. And this escalates to, like, a huge blowout. He causes a huge scene in this restaurant and starts. She, like, screams and gets up and is running away from him. He's chasing her.

He's flinging chairs across the restaurant to the point that the restaurant employees, like chefs come out of the back and are like pinning him to the ground and he's like screaming and crying. Really upsetting. Then we see him staying at a hotel and he looks really bad. There's empty alcohol bottles everywhere.

And he calls down to reception and they ask like what they can do for him and he calls down to reception and they ask what like what they can do for him and he got he can't speak he almost looks it almost looks like that scene in the matrix where neo's mouth starts shutting starts shutting he's like oh like trying to talk that's really creepy like he's so fucked up i think that he can't speak and some amount of time passes there we see a maid coming past the door and he says how long have i been here and she says three weeks sir oh god and he sobers up heads home And he comes home and finds Bob Alone eating jam

From the jar like covered in jam And Anna's not home And he says Where's mommy And he says that She's been gone for a long time Marge was supposed to Come watch her watch him but she broke Her leg so she just called him and like

Told him to be brave and this infuriates mark okay where the fuck have you been yeah and so anna comes home and is very apologetic she's like as this has never happened before like i'm always on time and he's like yells at her like this. Like, I can't leave you alone with Bob anymore. Like, I'm not leaving. I'm staying. And like, if you want to have, if you want to stay, like, you need to end your relationship with Heinrich. And she refuses. And so he starts packing up her stuff, but then she like breaks down really, really sobbing and goes almost catatonic, like has a full breakdown. And he is like holding her and undresses her and like puts her in bed. Oh, God, this is not starting out great. I know. I hate that. I'm like. Oh, God, this is not starting out great. I know.

I hate that. I'm like. It's already so bad. Yeah. It's just going to get so much worse. Yeah, I think it does a good job recreating the just absolute horrors of. Ending this kind of relationship. Yeah. Just like that time where it's it's like so emotional

and so draining everything is just so intense it's so intense and you like are trying to break away and then they'll have these moments of falling back into an old pattern of i like i really saw this like little emotional breakdown and then him being all of a sudden nice to her. I was like, I've been there. I don't like this. I don't like this. to the phone ringing anna is gone uh he answers the phone and man's voice we assume heinrich says she's with me she's gonna stay with me you're like and don't like try to come get her what about bob that's like the what about question in the background for the whole movie bob is a collateral damage in this film oh jesus which is the case in divorces and so i felt like it was really realistic in the way that bob is like the most innocent victim here and suffering for it ah poor bob but his name's Bob and that's pretty funny. Pretty funny. And he sees in bed Anna has left a note saying that she's gone.

He calls Marge and says, can you give me Heinrich's phone number? She gives it to him and he calls Heinrich's house and Heinrich's mom answers, Says he's not here right now. Bob wakes up in the middle of the night and is crying. Where's mommy? His mommy's not here right now. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. This is horrible. God damn it.

Next day, he's dropping Bob off at school and the teacher at school, Bob's probably like six or something, five or six. What would you guys say from that trailer? We only saw him in the bath for one second. Oh, so no, smaller than eight, I would say. Yeah, maybe six.

Yeah. So the teacher is a spitting image of Anna, but with green eyes and lighter hair. And Mark sees her for the first time. This is like the first time he's ever dropped Bob off at school. And he says, is this a joke? And he tries to rip her hair like she thinks it's like a wig and tries to pull her hair off of her head. Is it the actress or is it literally? It is. Yeah, it's the same actress. And she's like, what the hell?

Stop it. What are you doing? And he is super embarrassed. He's like, oh, my God, I'm sorry. Like, have you seen my wife? And she's like, of course, I see her every day when she drops off your son. And she's like, of course I see her every day when she drops off your son. And she's like, you look just like her.

And the teacher kind of laughs and is like, yeah, we do look kind of alike. Like, don't, don't worry about it. And stop pulling my hair. Yeah.

And goes inside with the kids. Now Mark goes to Heinrich's house. He's gotten the address, I guess somehow I can't remember. And Anna isn't there. And he says to Heinrich, you know, like, you called me last night, and I know she came here. And Heinrich seems genuinely, like, doesn't know what he's talking about he's like i just got back from hamburg this morning mark doesn't believe him and eventually they get into a fight mark lunges at heinrich but heinrich like easily dodges his punch and very quickly gets the upper hand and like punches mark in the face mark gets a crazy bloody nose he kicks him and mark keeps trying to fight back but is just no match for Heinrich in a very embarrassing humiliating way for him.

Oh man. Which is not gonna be good. And Heinrich is his vibe is very interesting because he's not like he doesn't hate Mark. He's basically saying like I'm doing this like stop fighting me and I'm gonna stop fighting

you. Like don't make me do this and like you've got to let anna make her own decisions like i'm not in control of anna and neither are you and mark just can't hear any of this and is just furious and mad and leaves humiliated and angry. And he comes home and Anna and Bob are playing in the kitchen with some toys. And he's asking, where were you? She says she was at Marge's. He says, no, you weren't. I talked to Marge. She's like, I was at Heinrich's. He's like, no, you weren't. I went to Heinrich's. she's yeah basically lying about where she is and we don't know where she was she's like I was with friends and he's like well

what friends like where were you and he gets really pissed and she's screaming she starts screaming at him so loud that I actually had to turn subtitles on at this point because I couldn't understand because of how loud they're screaming and they like continue to scream

pretty loud for the whole rest of the movie. Oh my god. And Bob's, mind you, in the house with them. Bob! I'm so upset. I'm so upset. So she's basically screaming like leave me alone.

I don't need to tell you where I am. And she tells him you disgust me i can't stand looking at you i can't stand you touching me he's like grabbing her shaking her and he she says like i know you think i'm a whore and she starts being like being like and maybe you're right maybe i'm sleeping with every man in town and maybe that's what I'm doing. I'm a big whore. And like, cause I'd rather have sex with anybody than you. Oh my God. And he, she, he like says, fuck you or something to her and she slaps him.

And then he looks very shocked and she looks at him and like smiles after slapping him. And then she runs for the door and he runs in front of her, blocks the door so she can't leave. And he slaps the shit out of her. Her lip is like pouring blood and very upsetting. And he's crying and he says, this is for the lies. And she looks at him and says, then you'll have to add much more. Okay. Okay.

And he kind of falls to his knees in defeat and sadness. And she grabs her stuff and leaves and then as she leaves he like gets a little boost of energy again and follows her out chases her into the street as her mouth is like still pouring blood and he's yelling after her and she gets this look and the music changes we get a little like kind of crazy music and her eyes go really wide as if she is possessed by something or something has taken over and she starts walking with like her arms out stretched behind her and she walks in front of a truck that's carrying other cars like one of those little like kind of a tow truck type thing with other cars

stacked on it she steps in front of it and it swerves to avoid her and then tips over and the cars fall off of it and causes an accident and she just continues walking like looking a little crazed as he's yelling after her and then we cut to marge coming over to help mark with bob and marge is in her cast because she broke her leg earlier and she arrives and we find out that her and mark seem like they've been hooking up like they're very like march is giving him way too much information yeah so your husband called me and was like like what what's up with them i'd be like i don't know bitch go talk i'm not telling you anything yeah also we don't know what the start of all this is we don't know what he did clearly he did something she knows about she's like pissed at him for a reason

yeah i don't know maybe not she's just we'll never find out really yeah they kind of have talks of like i think people just drift apart but then yeah i mean now we found out that they've both been cheating on each other and so i think it is i think it's just a mounting thing that it's just been building for a long time that they need to break up and it's all coming to a head at once and so marge comes over is very very flirty with mark their broken leg with her broken leg she's so funny she's like hobbling around trying to like be sexy uh it's very funny and so she's watching Bob while he goes to hire a private investigator to follow Anna because he wants to know where she's going. If she's not at Marge's, if she's not at Heinrich's, where is she all day?

She's with the devil. Yeah. So he hires the private investigator. We see the next day. I think he sleeps with marge that night i think we do see her spending the night again bob at home with them and her like sleeping in bed with mark and so but then she leaves in the morning next day anna comes home later that day and this is where we get our meat grinder scene. And she's again, like she comes home. Mark's immediately pissed at her, screaming at her.

Where have you been? What have you been doing? Like, you need to tell me what's going on. And she's screaming back at him. And the backdrop to all of this is first her getting out an electric knife and like chopping up this beef and then turning on the meat grinder and shoving meat into this grinder as they're just screaming at each other. It's so tense, but nothing ever gets in the meat grinder. That's not supposed to. Thank God. Okay.

But it's just really genius. Like it's so stressful backdrop because it's so stressful. Backdrop because it's so stressful. And something bad does happen with the electric knife, which is that this argument culminates in her seeming to reach a breaking point, and she grabs the electric knife and she holds it to her neck like she's cutting her own neck with it mark immediately grabs it pulls it away unplugs it throws it down and is like yelling at her what are you doing he says think about bob there's bob remember like what are you doing are you insane he grabs her and takes her into the bathroom and starts putting

like rubbing alcohol on her neck and how badly did she get her neck um i mean this is why she has the bandage right but enough that it's you know it's bleeding a lot but i think probably only like not a hospital situation no not needing stitches but uh so yes he bandages up her neck wraps gauze all around her neck so she she looks like she's wearing a little turtleneck and he leaves her in the in the bathroom she's crying and and looking very uh i don't know distressed everyone's distressed yeah this is a distressing situation and mark goes back into the kitchen to clean up all the ground meat everywhere and he looks at the electric knife and he turns it back on and he just starts slowly cutting his own arm with like three different cuts. Same sort of like not deep, just surface cuts.

But he just starts emotionlessly like cutting his own arm. Okay. Great. Cut to the next day. The P.I. is following Anna as she leaves home. This P.I. has absolutely zero chill. He's basically running right behind her and she's very much seeing him and is terrified by him because it's a man essentially chasing her. Oh, my God.

And they get as a as a way to try to protect herself from the man following her, she goes and sits. It's basically empty train except for one other man. And she sits directly next to this man. And I'm like, no, no, no. It's all bad. It's all bad. The man next to her is like a homeless guy. And he reaches into her grocery bags and takes a banana out and eats

the banana and they do just sit next to each other while he eats the banana she's non-responsive and as she gets to the stop her stop and books it to her house again the pi literally chasing her she's trying to escape from him and as she goes into her apartment he runs up the stairs past her and she like breathes this sigh of relief like he acts like he's just been running to his apartment that happens to be exactly where hers is but just a few floors above very cool and she looks confused but like okay thank god she's in her house now locks the door uh but then shortly after he he calls i think he calls mark and it's like i found her place she's rented an apartment somewhere that um you don't know about and uh mark i think says well can you like go in And see what it's like

And he's like okay yeah sure I'll do That and so he goes and knocks On the door which yeah it's like why Just you know where it is Great now you know she has an apartment Wait till she leaves and then I guess break in or something This is really aggressive private investigating I feel like usually you think of it as

Very public investigating Usually you think of it as a Yeah I'm a PI I'm a public investigator I'm a public investigator No yeah you got it right Everyone knows I'm not trying to hide anything Everyone knows what I'm doing Everyone knows

Huge huge investigator And so he bangs on her door And she Doesn't open it for a while. I can't remember what makes her eventually open it. I think he's lying, saying something like police or like I'm like here to like an emergency response team of some sort. There's been a gas leak. I need to check your windows.

So she reluctantly lets him in. She looks very scared. And so he comes in to check the windows and she's looking really anxious. Like, OK, like those are all the windows. Like, I swear they're all okay. I know that they're all good. I've like just bought this place and I've checked the windows myself. And he's like, I'm sorry, miss.

Like I'll need to check them. And like he's checked almost all the rooms except for one. And it seems like she really doesn't want him to go into this room. And she's like, there's no windows in that room. There's no windows. He room there's no windows he's like ma'am i'm sorry it's protocol i have to check all the rooms and he opens the door and the room is basically covered in blood and in the corner is a like bloody tentacle monster what were you guys expecting this wait what no what? No! Wait, what?

Is this a supernatural film? Yeah, I mean, it's called Possession. Okay, but yeah, Possession's real. That does happen, though. The devil possessing people doesn't count as supernatural. That's just life. Yeah, it looks kind of like a squid. It's somewhat human-sized.

Maybe a little bit bigger, has a squid head where basically has one eye on each side. Long tentacles, all freaking covered in blood and goo. Really squelchy noises. I was not expecting this at all. Oh no. And he is obviously very shocked by this scene. And she sneaks up behind him and bashes him over the head with a bottle. Bottle breaks and she uses it to stab him over and over. Kills him.

Okay. That's what you get. That's exactly what you get. You need to be better at your job. You absolutely need to be better at your job. Yeah, that's on him. I feel like private investigators need to take their time for good reason. You don't just immediately bust into a place.

Follow somebody really obviously. Act like you live there and then be like, actually, I'm the gas leak inspector. Let me inside. Let me inside. I have to check all the rooms. Oh, my God. Cut away from that. Now we are back at Mark and Anna's place.

Mark is there. And the teacher from school comes over and asks to she says she has to talk about Bob. Mark is giving Bob a bath. We found out this teacher's name is Helen. And he's like, clearly got a crush on her immediately. And she he welcomes her in. He's like, I'm giving Bob a bath. And then Heinrich shows up very drunk.

And he asks Helen to go take care of Bob in the bath, which I felt like was a pretty forward thing to ask your son's teacher to do. Like, just go like, get him out of the bath please i don't know maybe it's fine but maybe it's fine uh but so helen immediately starts like tending to bob bob clearly really likes her as well and so helen's um getting bob out of the bath as mark goes outside to talk to heinrich heinrich's stumbling around wasted clearly also upset over anna because she's not with him a lot of the time anymore either and so he's feeling rejected by her as well and is now yelling at Mark and Mark is loving this turn of the dynamic and is looking now like he's got the upper hand and he's like, I used to be afraid of you, but I'm not afraid of you anymore. And Mark, I mean, Heinrich says, there's nothing to fear except God.

Oh, whatever that means to you. They all german not all of them uh but heinrich is if you couldn't guess by the name heinrich i guessed i had a guess and mark says for me god is a disease and heinrich says that's why through disease we can reach him and there's a lot of dialogue like this and i just wrote it down down just to let you guys know what I was trying to parse through. Pretty much all of the dialogue is like that. It's just I don't understand what anyone's saying. Basically any of the time. It just is like poetry in a way.

Very non-specific. That's just giving an atmosphere. More atmosphere than actual useful plot. Conveyed information. Yeah. So Heinrich leaves and Mark goes back in with Helen and Bob. And Helen's got these, I mean, it's the same actress wearing these really intense green contact lenses. So, I mean, her eyes are just like this very unnatural green.

And she's seeming like an idealized version of Anna where she comes in and starts cleaning the house. And she's like doing the dishes and taking care of the kid and it's just like she's the madonna being really nice to him she's wearing all white of course and he's confiding in her a bit and again this dialogue i wrote it down again he says how he's in a war against women because they're i can't remember what he says but he's basically saying like i'm fed up with women type of thing. And she says, there's nothing common among women except menstruation. I come from a place where evil is easier to pinpoint because you can see it in the flesh. It becomes people. So you know exactly the danger of being deformed by it. But that doesn't mean I envy your world. I find pathetic these stories of women contaminating the universe because you never feel free. So sad that freedom to you means evil. Which, like, I understand that, but it's also like nobody talks like that ever.

I don't understand that. What is she trying to say? Does she know about the monster? No, I don't think so. But maybe. But yes, there's those two sentences in there. I come from a place where evil is easier to be i don't i don't know what that means don't know what the hell does that mean where does she come from that makes you think that she she understood like that what does she say you come from a place where evil is easier to pinpoint because you see

it on them you can see it in the flesh so i'm like is she describing the monster? No. I don't know. I feel like she's. She's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Possibly. She's speaking in riddles.

She's speaking in riddles for sure. They're all speaking in riddles. So this. I couldn't tell if she's pissed at him or flirting with him. That was the other thing. That's hard to know. I'm not sure really what's happening here, but they end up hooking up. She spends the night again.

And Mark seems to feel guiltier about this one for some reason. And so the next day when he's dropping bob off at school he barely makes eye contact with her he's being very cold to her and after he drops bob off the another pi that he spoke to finds him on the street and basically says uh the first pi never came home i know because he's my boyfriend and we live together and so he's like very distressed that this other guy has gone missing. And Mark kind of waves him off. Like, I don't know what he did. Maybe he like went out and got drunk somewhere. Like, how am I supposed to know where he is? You're the PI. And he's like, all right, fair enough. And he goes in. Touché. And like goes to, I think maybe he gives him the

address of the house because he didn't have that. So he's like, here's the address that the PI went to that my wife bought this house or apartment. So he goes there, finds her mopping the floors. strange and unblinking and creepy he tells her she's scaring him because she's not really seems like she's not really there and she points to a room and says he's in there and he walks into this room and the bloody tentacle monster is now sprawled out on the bed like spread Eagle. And there's all this white and red discharge, like coming out of it. Yeah. And as, because I had subtitles on it, it said organs squelching.

Oh no. Oh no. Is it eating him? No, it's just laying there. And, uh, Anna walks up and says he's very tired he made love to me all night oh my god and we hear that music again there's no body there's no pi body we turn and see that the pi body is in like a corner. PI body. PI body. Where's the PI body?

He's dead in a corner. And his partner sees him and is crying. And the same spell comes over Anna. We hear the music again. Her eyes going wide. Something takes over her. And she kills the second pi and we cut back to mark at home watching home videos and for some reason there's a home video of anna teaching a ballet class

looking straight into camera as she is so awful to one of the ballerinas and is like holding her leg up and she's like higher higher and like pushing the leg like past obviously this girl's point of comfort and the girl is like going which is like a 12 year old girl and she's like like sweating and trying to like hold it up and she's like starting to cry and the girl's like she and anna's going higher higher higher stop whining stop crying and she's like looking into camera and again this is a home video and i'm like who was filming this is happening mark was like i remember this day what a fun day oh yes um eventually the ballerina the girl ballerina pulls away and runs out of the class crying. And she, like, tells all the rest of the students, she's too weak.

You guys don't be little pussies like her. Really upsetting scene. And then it cuts to another home video of her talking again straight into camera. Just the two, just her. And it looks like she's been crying and she says that she has two sisters inside of her faith and chance and she's speaking kind of gibberish e like she's having a full breakdown and she says i can't exist by myself because I'm afraid of myself. I'm the maker of my own evil.

She's not German. I know that sounded German. She's French. But I do like that line, even though it's also like, I don't know what's happening. So did she have a miscarriage? It sounds like she had like twins and had a miscarriage possibly yes that's what's going on i love that i love this new piece of information or new theory because i think that that fits okay because that was the first thing i that was the first thing i thought of when it's

like the creepy tentacle creature i know she says they made love all night so that's a little weird but i feel like it made her just go crazy she had a miscarriage and made her go crazy yes i mean that i think is true and we'll get to that okay great so she comes home later that night and she's rubbing her hands together really aggressively like she looks like she's just yeah in the midst of a um like mental health crisis and she uh mark is saying are you okay what's right where have you been she starts grabbing laundry and putting it in the fridge she's like i've got to do the laundry i'm doing the laundry i need to do the laundry he's like you can do it later it doesn't you don't need to do that right now like come like sit with me like let's be calm take a like a deep breath so they go and they sit on the couch and she starts like screaming and crying and she says i've messed everything

up i'm a cheat i'm a liar i feel nothing for no one she says it's as if the two sisters were too exhausted to fight anymore locked with their hands around each other's throats, both staring at me. She's just like screaming these things that are really, it's very hard to follow what's happening. And we see a flashback of her at a subway station and she's walking down the vestibule thing. And as she's walking, starts kind of convulsing, having another breakdown. She starts screaming. She's flinging herself against the walls, falling on the ground, kind of tossing and turning around. Looks like she's in pain. uh she this is the scene that i think it's like one of the most intense places i feel like an actor's probably ever gone to it looks so and they filmed this scene just twice which even

feels like a lot this is so my god she's just throwing herself everywhere she's throwing herself and she's screaming so hard you know that like thing when you're screaming and your eyes start changing, like they start getting pale, like the blood is draining from your face almost. Oh my God. Like it's physical things are happening to her body that are not like they're not faked. Like she's actually just screaming to the point that it's almost making like blood vessels in her eyes burst. and we've all been there and she drops to her knees and fluid starts coming out of like all of her orifices there's

first coming out of her ears like all this blood coming out like white is coming out of her mouth and then the white and red discharge is coming out from between her legs as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what this is about. And we come back to the couch where she is apparently relayed this story to Mark. And she says, what I miscarried there was sister faith. And what is left is sister chance. So I had to take care of my faith to protect it.

So yeah, I mean, I think you're probably right. And it's like not, certainly not straightforward and said explicitly, but I think it's a good interpretation that she's had a miscarriage, possibly twins with Bob. Well, I wonder if it was a it was a mis it sounds like what she just said was it was a miscarriage and then she got an abortion for the other one well and i think it's intentionally because it's making it also basically like part of the tentacle monster thing like there's a part of it that is she's not telling us the real thing we're hearing the supernatural part of it so it's hard to say for sure but yes something happened that yeah i guess was probably one of the big defining moments of their relationship falling apart so she leaves and heinrich now we see going to her secret apartment and she's there.

And so they're like hooking up. But then again, she starts seeming possessed again. And she wide eyes stares into the room with the tentacle monster and he follows her gaze to it and sees tentacle guy there. He's like, oh, I hadn't noticed he's like oh my god what the fuck is that and then he loses his sight and he's reaching around the apartment being like anna anna where are you what the fuck is going on and she's fucking with him kind of dancing around him so that he can't reach her and they end up in the kitchen and he gets his sight back as she opens the fridge to show him the dismembered bodies of both of the pis in there and he's terrified and she pulls out a knife

and starts he looks like completely in shock so he's frozen and she starts like mini stabbing him she's just taking the tip of the knife and like picking at his chest like going ew ew ew ew then she stabs him for real kind of in his shoulder area and he runs out he eventually does leave and she goes back into the room with tentacle monster starts getting undressed oh my god we cut away but the implication we understand uh heinrich goes to a nearby bar calls mark and is basically saying she's stabbed me and mark looks absolutely delighted by this news he's like he, oh, my God, where are you? This is so. He's like another point for me.

He's like, oh, she never stabbed me. So. So he comes after he tells Heinrich, stay there. I'll meet you there. And he see Bob is in the apartment. He's spinning Bob around. He's like, mommy called, mommy called. And Marge is there. And it's like clearly very mommy called and marge is there and it's like

clearly very rude to her and he like gives bob to her and he's like all right bye bitch like i'm going to my wife see my wife and marge falls over because her leg is broken it cuts away it cuts away from her after she's fallen and it really made me laugh even though it's her like just being knocked over in her own little form of heartbreak uh so he goes to the apartment he sees the dismembered bodies anna and heinrich neither of them are there and the tentacle monster is not there and a spell seems to come over him as well and the camera is spinning around him and he's kind of grabbing at his throat as if he can't breathe there's obviously a presence in this place or sometimes the presence is maybe just with anna but uh he's like seems like he's gasping for air and he eventually opens one of the windows and goes out to a little balcony and he's uh smiling he looks very pleased and then he goes back inside

and he starts making a little rig to light the whole place on fire to i assume get rid of evidence of his wife's crimes uh but he doesn't light it on fire yet but um he sets it up to do later then he goes down to the bar finds Heinrich and Heinrich is basically saying like she's killed people and he's asking like well why didn't you go to the police why did you call me Mark is like thrilled about this dynamic now where Heinrich is freaking out and he's using this moment to kind of taunt him and be a dick to him. And Heinrich is there in the bathroom. Heinrich is at the sink, like tending to his wounds and panicking and Mark's looking like real smug. to his wounds and panicking and mark's looking like real smug and he gets a little light bulb moment idea and he goes into the bathroom and he takes his takes a shoe and shoves it into the toilet so it like clogs the toilet and he flushes it so it starts overflowing and then he takes a

feather from somewhere i can't remember he got feather and tickles the back of his throat so that he starts gagging. And he's like, Heinrich, Heinrich, come help me. And Heinrich comes and opens the stall door and Mark grabs the lid of the toilet bowl and knocks Mark over the head. I mean, knocks Heinrich over the head. Knocks him out unconscious and then positions him with his head fully submerged in the toilet water. Oh, my God. So you drown him? And climbs out of the stall.

So it's locked from the inside and leaves him there. Yeah. And then leaves. And then he goes and blows up the apartment. Holy shit. So Heinrich's leaves. And then he goes and blows up the apartment. Holy shit. So Heinrich's dead. Oh my God. That was an intricate idea he just had.

Yeah. Out of the blue. I know. He's like, you know what? I'll do. He's like, I need a shoe. I need a feather. And he goes back to his home and as he's getting into the elevator to go up to the floor that

their apartment's on it opens with marge in it with her throat slit and she falls out of the elevator he catches her brings her back in carries her back up to their apartment into the bathroom she's died um she's for sure dead and he is completely covered in her blood and he walks into the bedroom finds anna in there who's just like standing there looking at him and he reaches out to her drenched in blood and she comes to him and comforts him he's she's like stroking his face like it's okay it's okay and they have sex what where the fuck is bob bob is there baby bob is always there and they just don't give a shit i i hate this movie i don't. I'm sort of feeling like I don't I don't personally feel like we've gotten to the thing that makes this movie. I don't know.

Am I correct about that? I think there's probably one more big thing coming up. OK, great. So or yeah, maybe two things. So he says he'll deal with Marge's body and that she should go wait at Marge's house for some reason. Don't really know why. Feels like a suspicious place to wait that out. car and Heinrich's mom calls and he answers and she asks if he's heard from Heinrich she hasn't seen him and he like yells at her don't you think he's probably having sex with my wife and my god and the mom says they should come here I've put clean sheets on for them which I thought was very funny

and as he's having this conversation he's just turning the light in his house off and on and so it's just like between darkness and light as he's like yelling at the mom about their son having sex with his wife just a very interesting

not normal behaviors throughout this movie that make it feel very weird and uncomfortable. So now Mark takes Bob to Helen's house. And Helen has a beautiful house and is, of course, open arms welcoming Bob in. It's like, of course, you do what you need to do. I will take care of Bob. He's like, thank you so much. Like, you're so great. And he goes to this abandoned building, and I kind of don't remember why,

but Anna is there. Maybe this was the meeting point, because this isn't marge's house so but he's at the bottom floor of this building and we can hear anna moaning sexually sexual moans uh on a floor above and so he's looking for her as the moans are getting louder, really intense moaning. And he eventually finds her and she is having sex with tentacle creature. And it's like very explicit. So we're really, my God, really seeing it.

It's looking more like a man now. So I would describe it as like a man torso. You see its spine. The creature's on top. Anne is on bottom. And so you see it's like very bony protruding spine, which comes down into like a tentacle, which is the penetrating

tentacle. So that's going in and out. Oh, Sammy. And the rest of the tentacles are wrapped around her arms and legs she is moaning in pleasure uh mark looks uh he's shocked he looks hypnotized by it actually he kind of can't look away great and she looks up at him. They make eye contact and she just says, almost, almost, almost, almost really intense scene. And he leaves and goes to Heinrich's, confirms to Heinrich's mom that Heinrich is dead, that they found a body at the bar. He must have gotten too drunk or something and died. And she's, I noticed taking her pills

with a martini at this time. And I was like, should she just take her pills with a martini? And she's, they have like a long kind of philosophical-ish conversation that I didn't write any of it down, but she basically ends it with, you don't need to worry about me. Losing it, basically losing a child is the end of the road for me. And she lays down and we realized that she has overdosed with the pills and the martini and she just lays down and dies right the suicide you said it wasn't going to be who we expected okay i have a feeling this

isn't going to be like a happy ending no is it no things are really not there's really going to be there's no turning there's no turning back no were you expecting a happy ending henley well i'm just thinking all of them are dying and now we're just gonna find out how each one dies and that's just what we're in for so the next day i think we see mark on the bridge with like the berlin wall in the in the background uh they live like right near the wall. So that's sprinkled in throughout. I know I haven't been saying it, but we're getting a lot of like looks at that throughout.

And he sees in the water below the bridge that there's a dead dog floating in the water. No. And there's, he's had mentions of dead dogs before. And it was again, I'm sorry. Another thing I just didn't really understand. OK.

And one one of his employers pops up behind him and is basically telling him they have another job for him. He's saying how he doesn't he doesn't want to do it. And all of the dialogue here again is so interesting. All of the dialogue here, again, is so interesting. And this 80s synth music comes in and their dialogue is so poetic that it almost feels like it's about to turn into a musical. Like it's almost like the things that they're saying are rhyming. And this music change is very different from anything else that has happened in the movie. And I was like, are we about to have a fucking musical? happened in the movie and i was like are we about to have a fucking musical it doesn't go full musical but it is just this very bizarre scene where it is it's sing-songy like the the flow of

the dialogue is um unnatural in uh rhythm and he says something like i saw my dog die when i was a boy and i he crawled under the house to die which reminded me of how we talked about how cats curl up and yeah and so he's like he crawled under the house to die and i crawled under there with him and laid with him and the employer guy is like so what it's just very bizarre and he turns to him and he says i met a man who loved everything and he died in a flood of shit i think he means heinrich yeah he definitely does and i wrote i have no idea what's happening in this scene i don't know what's going on but he's regretting murdering heinrich a little bit and i think it's i think his job is also something where he may

he's I think a spy he's like some sort of intelligence officer which is okay I feel like that's the only kind of job where you meet your employer on a bridge yeah for sure he's a spy that's the only people who have meetings on bridges and maybe where you would have to kill a dog at some point like maybe this dog is representative of something that, again, I didn't get. I'm sorry. Sure. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. And so he rejects his employer's offer and runs off and he goes to Marge's house and it's surrounded by police and he hails a cab that's nearby and he forces the cab driver. He says, I think he holds a gun to his head and says, crash into that police car at full speed. And the cab driver's like, you got it, man, and drives full speed into the police car. full speed into the police car and so all the cops now turn their attention to mark who jumps out of the cab and they're all shooting at him and he's yelling out anna anna like now like get out of the house and anna gets into their car reverses out of the driveway crashes into the cop car marge's body flies out of the trunk oh my god and then each of the cars cop cars explode

one by one in like a very funny way because nothing hit most of them like it's just like a chain reaction of explosions that i don't think is physically possible but it was very funny uh and then there's like a shootout that happens and mark gets shot a couple times in the back that look like pretty serious places to be shot. It doesn't look like surface wounds. And he gets on this motorcycle screaming that look great, but also like seem dangerous to film. Like I think he's just doing that. And then he crashes and flies off of it. And I mean, it just looks, looks good. It's very stressful. And so he falls off the motorcycle and he's very injured shot and now scraped up and he runs into this closest building he's still being pursued by the police he's kind of bleeding out he's running up this spiral staircase in this building to get away from them and but he halfway up collapses he's dying and we hear footsteps coming up after him on the stairs and it's anna

and she's looking like she's smiling and she says i wanted to show it i wanted to show it to you it's finished now and she points to and like pulls up next to her uh someone who looks exactly like mark except now with green eyes it's very scary it's samuel with very scary contacts in and he's just smiling and they're both have these big smiles on their faces and tentacle Yeah, and Mark looks so upset and he still has a gun and he's about to shoot the doppelganger

and then the cops arrive below and all start shooting up at him and they shoot Anna and Mark a bunch of times. Doppelganger doesn't get hit at all. He's just smiling, unblinking, looking completely unfazed by everything. He's also lit in this very bright manner. It makes him look alien-ish.

And so now Anna and Mark are collapsed on the stairs, bleeding out. And they start to kiss they're like have blood all over their face and they're they're having a little little bloody kiss and she takes the gun out of his hand and points it she holds it behind her back and points it at herself and shoots herself in the spine what the fuck and she dies and she dies on like on top of him and the doppelganger walks up the stairs past them and says something to mark i think he says it's so difficult to live with it isn't it brother another kind of riddle speak type thing and passes by him. And there is a, um, woman outside of her apartment on the floor above who is immediately very

hypnotized by this doppelganger. So I think this is like, he's got that aura about him where it's almost like vampires, you know, and they could glamor you type of thing. He's, she's under his spell and she, he gives her the gun and asks her to shoot Mark.

She does. Now Mark is dead and he makes her give him a little boost to get up to climb out of a window in the in the ceiling or something. And she's like, they're both just have big smiles on their faces as she's like helping him escape. as she's like helping him escape, he escapes and we cut to Helen's house, Bob eating some cereal or something. And the doorbell rings and Bob immediately says, don't open the door. And Helen laughs. It's like,

of course I'm going to open the door. Silly. Like I want to see who it is. And pans around the corner. We see the outline. That's clearly the Mark doppelganger. And Bob is yelling, don't open the door. don't open the door, don't open the door, don't open the door. And she's laughing and walking towards the door about to open it. And it all of a sudden sounds like World War III is happening outside. There's just explosions, flashes of light. We hear like buildings collapsing.

And Bob runs up the stairs. He's still screaming, don't open the door. Don't open the door. Don't open the door. And he flings himself face down into the bathtub. And Bob kills himself, too. What? That's the one I meant. It's not who you're going to think.

That was the one I was waiting. I was like, when you said, I was like, this kid's going to kill himself. What? How did you know that? That's going to be the thing. I was like, what could be so bad that this film would get? Well, it was the combo of Sammy saying,

it's not who you think, and then it's going to be so bad that it gets banned. I was like, a child is going to commit suicide. That didn't even cross my mind. I think it must be also part of the spell of the doppelganger. I think that's probably something to do with it. This evil energy being nearby. being nearby and we go back downstairs and we see Helen hasn't let the doppelganger in yet, but is just listening to the sounds of the like world falling apart outside.

And the camera just like slowly pushes in on her unblinking crazy green eyes as she's kind of smiling. And that's the end of the movie. What the fuck? So she's, she's kind of smiling. And that's the end of the movie. What the fuck? So she's, she's one too though, isn't she? Yeah. She's,

she's gotta be the other twin. I think so. And yeah. Yeah. I guess it's about like the old way dying and the new way coming in and the new way is like evil. I think there's a lot of interpretations i think it's something that is meant to like keep you thinking about it for a long time afterwards

yeah i thought about it i hated it as like replacing your ex with just like a better version of them but it's like i don't know uh there was something i read that was like seeing an idealized version of your ex in someone new like projecting your ex onto new people type of thing but yeah i mean oh can can read it a few ways i'm sure oh my fucking god that was so depressing i'm so deeply depressed i'm okay emily's okay yeah i actually really liked it i feel like i didn't love it as much as like some people love this movie and i can see why i mean i think it's it's really it's a fearless film it really goes places that i respect taking taking those chances but yeah i think it may be i think it might also be something that i would like more with repeated watches it's like certainly something that you could get more

out of yeah were you shocked when you saw the tentacle creature how'd you feel no because i read a goddamn description that was like a woman that's literally the fucking google thing is like a woman has a secret relationship with the tentacle creature and i was like oh god damn it oh my god but i would have been very shocked that's annoying i was shocked from the trailer it definitely looked like a beautiful well-made movie it really is which is not always the case with horror movies no it's definitely worth watching if you like horror i think it's a it's a must watch i feel like it was really ahead of its time and their the performances are truly incredible my goodness um but for some reason i and i don't i'll be thinking about it for a long

time but for some reason i was like not super emotionally moved by it in any which way. Yeah. I think because it starts already kind of unanchored. That makes a big difference. You never see them happy and normal. Yeah. And relaxed. Yeah.

Yeah. So there was never any moment where it actually didn't it actually didn't like make me feel that bad. Cause I was kind of just like, what? Huh? And you know, I like to feel bad. So I, that's a, that's a negative for me. I feel like the dialogue too, if the dialogue was so lofty and disconnected from reality, it's hard to feel like they're real people and hard to feel like it's a

real thing that's happening. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. But I really like it and I can appreciate it as art and how cathartic it must have been for this filmmaker who wrote it in the time of his own divorce. And I like really, I love that for him. Like good for him. Oh, I love that for him. Like, good for him. Oh, I love that for him. Ooh, that was very intense. I thought it was intense, and then the ending was so intense. Yeah. I forgot to say that the director, Andrei Zalowski, also said that at some point in his life, and I can't remember if his parents also had a bad divorce or something, but the scene where he's alone eating jam that that

actually happened to andre zelowski that he was like left alone and got like crazy with the jam and got covered in jam and i was like wow it's so sad that's really sad that's really sad that's really sad but you like to see film as a way for people to process their own trauma. I feel like that's what horror movies are all about, baby. Absolutely. Oy vey. Okay, I need a really good palate cleanser.

Maybe it's going to be six episodes of Top Chef right in a row. Maybe it's going to be eating some of that Jenny's ice cream that I bought. I bought Jenny's ice cream on a whim and I have not eaten any of it. So I haven't been able to. I would not recommend Evil Genius as a palate cleanser.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I've also been watching, sorry, just real quick, I've been watching that show Shrinking. Did you guys see it? No. Harrison Ford is a goddamn national treasure and I wish he had just been in more things he's so

good like recently he's just obviously doesn't act anymore he's 80 but man he's great he's gonna be in the new Indiana Jones I forgot to tell you guys I watched Death Becomes Her I still need to watch Witches of Eastwick I've still never seen Death Becomes Her me neither

I wanna watch that yeah I'd say that'd be a good palate cleanser. Okay, that's fine. Oh! Witches of Eastwick is also really fun. I think you'll like it, Sammy. Yeah, I need to watch it. Unlike this movie, which I shall strike from memory, starting now. Yeah, it's a tough one.

Never happened. Tough one. It's struck. Never happened. It's struck. So stricken. But, oh, Hot Dad. Forgot to call out the Hot Dad. Oh, duh. Yeah. Yeah one. It struck. It's struck. So stricken. But, oh, Hot Dad. Forgot to call out the Hot Dad.

Oh, duh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Another contender in the Hot Dad. It's almost, you know, that pool is getting really large. It's true. Love that pool.

Love swimming in that pool. To take a little dip in that pool. Wow. to take a little dip in that pool wow well thank you for really taking us through a really difficult one to recap I appreciate your efforts as I'm sure we all do yeah and

now we never have to talk about it or think about it ever again it never happened so whatever I love that for me never happened and there are accents in it, but yeah, I guess I'll do the German one again. Because my French one didn't seem very good. From all of us here. That was a little practice.

That was just practice. That was just practice. Don't count that for real. From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye. Auf Wiedersehen. Auf Wiedersehen. I feel like I sound like, I always sound like Dracula.

Auf Wiedersehen. Auf Wiedersehen. No, what was that? That was all practice. That's Italian, kind of Italian. That was all practice and it never happened. Okay, bye. Bye.

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