Too Scary; Didn't Watch - SE7EN with Monica Padman
Episode Date: November 27, 2019Seven deadly sins, some VERY upsetting crime scenes, and Brad Pitt in his god damn prime - we're recapping David Fincher's Se7en. Monica Padman (Armchair Expert) gives us all the details of t...his truly horrifying psychological thriller. Join us as we find out what's in that dang box!! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hey, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for
those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm a little sick and I'm scared.
Oh, she's sick. I'm a little sick. I'm Henley. I'm scared. Not sick. Great. I'm Sammy and I am brave and also not sick. Look at us. Did anything scary happen to us this
week? I have a scary thing. Okay. I finished season three of Love Island. Okay. Which means I have now watched approximately 120 hours of Love Island.
And I cried a lot.
Wow.
A lot more than you'd think.
From the story of the show or that you were done?
No, from their relationships.
They do like fake vows in the end.
What happens at the end?
Do they all get engaged?
Well, they pick a winner.
How do you win? No, they don't get engaged.
They're voted by the public.
Oh, okay. And so it's like the... It's like American Idol.
Yeah. Oh my god, it's American Idol meets
a dating show. Mm-hmm. Meets Survivor
meets The Bachelor. Holy hell, yes.
And I was just really invested in all of their relationships
and their vows were really sweet and beautiful
and they cry and I cried and man, it was...
I feel like I might cry right now.
I love crying from love is really great.
It's really great.
It's a good feeling.
That's true.
Well, I watched something different.
Actually, I watched Hereditary.
Oh, my.
I'm pretty shocked.
I watched it at work on silent in the corner of my screen while doing other things
so you looked at hereditary
and also like fast forwarded
through it so I watched the I really
wanted to see this scene
where her head gets cut off
I watched it
and it wasn't as none of it was
as brutal as I was expecting
because you're watching it in like a small corner
quietly
you're not like invested like a small corner quietly.
Yeah.
You're not like invested in it.
The context definitely made a difference.
Also, I'd heard every little detail about it from my podcast.
So it really desensitized me.
Took the edge off.
Yeah.
Kind of neutralized it a little bit.
But man, it was beautiful.
Like that's all I have to say. It was more beautiful than I was expecting it like just
visually stunning um
but yeah that was the scary thing I did this
week that's a little scary that is scary
um well I
as I mentioned I'm a little sick
um so I didn't do anything
for the past this is the first I haven't done anything
for like two days and
I can't really
watch tv all the time when i'm sick it like hurts my eyes i haven't you know like my eyes i can't
like stare at screens for that long so i was like desperate to find something to do and i remembered
that i had a copy loaned to me by a friend of twilight fuck yeah which i have never read
and now i'm almost done because it's been all i've been doing and i love it you
guys i really love it and i get i get it i get why it's a big deal twilight's cool again i feel
like my like approaching 30 was the right time in my life to discover twilight and get into it for
the first time um and we watched most of the first film the other night because sammy and silent
jenna has not present our big ro Robert Pattinson fans, big Twilight fans.
Oh, yeah, baby.
When did it first come out?
2008.
Great. So I'm 11 years behind the trend, but man, am I loving it.
And it's a little scary that I love it.
Anyway, I haven't had any human contact in like 48 hours, but I can't wait for you guys to leave so I can get the fuck out of here.
Get out of my house.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's get into it then.
Let's get into it.
I have a plan to get to.
All right.
This week's movie is Seven.
Came out in 1995.
Directed by David Fincher.
Written by Andrew Kevin Walker.
Starring Morgan Freeman, Brad Pittitt gwyneth paltrow and
kevin spacey my goodness yeah and this week yes on our pod so freaking excited to have the one
and only monica padman from the probably like the best podcast I would say Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard.
Thank you so much for being here.
Hi.
Of course.
I'm happy to be here.
What an intro.
Best podcast.
Well, it kind of is, isn't it?
I mean, it's pretty successful.
We have fun.
Yes.
Yeah.
I love it.
I listen to it all the time.
Oh, thanks.
Huge fan.
Thanks.
Well, I'm so excited to be here
because I love seven yeah
do you like scary movies generally
I'm half and half I like
psychological thrillers a ton
but like straight up horror
I will like in a big group
like a Halloween watching
but I'm not gonna watch
exactly exactly
or like a movie theater.
Like when I was in
high school, we all saw The Ring
like a whole huge group of friends
went and saw The Ring. The Ring's a scary one. So scary.
And everyone's screaming in the movie theater.
It's just so fun. That is fun. Yeah.
But I would never
like turn that on in
my house by myself. Never.
Never. Yeah. That's something that I do a lot now.
Wow.
You never used to.
I have to.
I will say I watched seven at 7 a.m.
This morning.
By yourself.
Something I wouldn't have usually done.
You texted and said, my life is weird now.
I have to watch a horror movie a week.
I usually try to watch them at nighttime and make a whole thing out of it and try to get
as into it as I can.
And I mean, I was into this movie, but it's a little less scary when it's daytime.
Yeah.
I think I have seen this movie a long time ago and I only remember two things from it.
There's definitely some memorable things.
Oh, yes.
Some parts that really stuck out for me as well.
Most of it I don't remember.
So I'm very excited to hear you guys walk us through it.
Chat it out.
Yeah.
I want to know all the details.
All those deets.
Well, first of all, Brad Pitt is prime.
Yeah.
It's prime BP.
I feel like he's entering a second prime.
Oh, my God.
True.
By the way, he never left.
He's perfect looking. He's sort of back in a moment and it's
really nice. I just love him
so much. Yeah, he never had a dumpy
phase. Oh my god, are we kidding?
No. Never.
Dumpy Brad Pitt is impossible to imagine.
I can't even imagine.
Dumpy Benjamin Button old baby
is kind of cute.
So attractive. Oh man. Benjamin Button old baby is kind of cute.
So attractive.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
He's a good looking guy. Don't you see him around this neighborhood?
Doesn't he live near here?
Well, okay.
He does live near here.
We're keeping it private, though.
We're keeping it private.
We're not going to say where here is, Henley.
Sorry.
I have not seen him around.
I did see Angelina Jolie once,
which was pretty cool
It was post separation though
But your boyfriend saw him
My boyfriend saw him walking out of a restaurant
He held the door open
For Brad Pitt
He described Brad Pitt as being in
All cream grey leather
What?
I don't even know what that means
And we're going gonna trust his description
and um and and as he held the door brad pitt walked out looked right at him and said
thank you and then he's so polite i mean he's so wow what a nice guy what a dream honestly
what a saint um what restaurant was it can you tell us that i'll tell you it was mess hall
on this field which is like
I basically live at mess hall
the first time I went there after
Joel had seen Brad Pitt there
a friend of mine was like you could be sitting in the
very same chair you could be using the very same
floor oh my god oh you'll
know you'll feel the energy
you'll feel it so he is he I mean
he's around he's around
it gives us all hope.
It's a reason to get up in the morning, you guys.
It really is.
Monica, what's the scariest movie you've ever seen?
Do you have one that sticks out as like the did anything traumatize you as a little kid
or anything?
No, I don't think I saw any as a young kid that I was like, oh, I'm never seeing this
type of thing again.
Yeah.
Or other. And my parents protect me pretty well. Right, right, I'm never seeing this type of thing again. Yeah. Or other.
And my parents protect me pretty well.
Right.
Right.
Right.
That's good.
We were supposed to go see Jurassic Park as a family.
I remember Jurassic Park being pretty scary.
Well, then my mom came home from work and was like, we're not going anymore because
someone at work had told her it was too scary.
Oh, I was devastated.
Someone gets ripped in half in it.
Yeah.
It's definitely scary. Yeah. Yeah. Those raptors at the end hiding in the kitchen. Scary was devastated. Yeah, it's definitely scary.
Yeah. Those raptors at the end
hiding in the kitchen? Scary.
Yeah, that scene is really scary.
It's true. But I resent
her for that.
I would have been real pissed.
I was so excited.
Expectations dashed. I know.
That's my only real memory associated
with a scary movie. With a worm.
I mean, really, I already said it,
but The Ring is the movie that I remember
being like, I can hardly
contain. I'm so
scared. Yeah.
And I didn't really know how to handle it, but I was with
friends, so it was okay.
But then going home and being by myself
after. See, that's the worst part. Yes.
That's the worst part. Yeah.
That was pretty rough for me. I remember people being very freaked. The Ring had a big But then going home and being by myself after. Yes. That's the worst part. Yeah. Yeah.
That was pretty rough for me.
I remember people being very freaked out.
The ring had like a big moment.
Yes.
It's really scary.
Because she comes out on TV, right?
Yeah.
Ugh.
Scary.
And then her hair.
Yeah.
Her like matted hair.
Sick.
Sick.
It is sick.
It is sick.
This circles back to seven where every time I watch it I'm like I'm scared of
This person that wrote this
Right yes
That is a really interesting part about horror movies
That's how I feel about Ari Aster
Yeah like what's up
We have a lot of questions for Ari Aster
What happened
In your life
Yeah
Because it's so smart
This movie is
So smart I think it's brilliant
You've thought of all these things
Like the psychopath in the movie
Is brilliant
And so then this writer
Has to be as brilliant as
As a murdering psychopath
Exactly
So I hope I don't run into him at Mass Hall.
Yeah, that's one we'll skip.
We'll skip that one. We'll skip Kevin Spacey
too. Oh yeah, I thought that
might come up.
He is in this movie.
Disclaimer, Kevin Spacey
is in this movie.
He's in this movie. He was in movies.
He was in movies.
He was in movies.
We can't erase him from our history. He's in this movie. He was in movies. He was in movies. He was in movies. He was in movies.
We can't erase him from our history.
And I have a question.
I have a philosophical question.
Oh, I love this.
Can we say he's very, very good?
He's a good actor.
He's a very good actor.
We can say it.
It doesn't mean he's a good person.
The two are not related.
Right.
He can be a very bad man yeah and a very good
actor at the same time yeah we can put them in two separate boxes we can compartmentalize this
about kevin spacey we're gonna have to do it for this podcast we just don't have a choice
oh yeah for the sake of this episode we're gonna have to and he is incredible in it he's so good
but so bad in life so good in this so bad
in life oh man hello my sweet beautiful scaredy cats it is time for cocktail hour and i know what
you're thinking the movie is called seven so what a perfect time to have 7 and 7s but guess what I don't like 7 and 7s. I think they're gross
so we're not doing that. So today's cocktail is a gin and sin. To make a gin and sin you will
combine two ounces of gin, one ounce of fresh squeezed orange juice, a half an ounce of fresh
squeezed lemon juice, a quarter ounce of grenadine, and a half an ounce of fresh squeezed lemon juice, a quarter ounce
of grenadine, and a half an ounce of chilled water.
Shake all ingredients together and strain into a chilled martini glass and garnish with
an orange twist.
Cheers.
Um, do we have any trivia about this movie?
Does anybody have?
Yeah, what was the trivia?
Aside from Kevin Spacey, good in this, bad in life?
Wait, I had trivia i have um one which is that brad pitt did really get injured while filming
this he really like he cut his arm really bad and they put him in a cast yes so i guess in the movie
he is in a cast at some point that was because in life he was injured yes real cast like surgery on
his arm yeah and so in the there are some scenes because like they, you know, we've talked about this
on the pod.
They don't shoot in sequence all the time.
So there are some scenes that take place in the story before the cast in the story.
And they had to like hide his figure out how to hide his cast.
Interesting.
For mine, it's for the gluttony scene.
Seven crates of cockroaches were released on the
set and poured on Bob Mack.
Something had to be put in Mack's ears and nose to stop the cockroaches from crawling
in.
It didn't stop him from crawling into his underwear.
Oh, my God.
So those were real cockroaches.
Or his mouth.
If his nose is plugged, he has to open his mouth to breathe.
Ew.
I hate that so much.
I know. I would skip
that job. I'm really sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I felt like I had to tell you guys, though.
Sorry, David Fincher. No, that's worth
telling, but yikes. Yeah, that's
gross. Bob Mack is the actor?
I guess so. Yeah, this
is, I feel, I mean, I'm
an actor, so I can
relate, but I'm like oh my god
I told you well today we're just
gonna put cockroaches all over you
I really feel like the answer is no
I know I think maybe
in my old age I would
say no but 10 years
ago I would be like
bring it on yeah somebody
else is outside waiting to get cockroaches
poured on them. You know,
that's exactly the problem. Yes, it is.
That is the problem with being an actor because it's like,
I guess I have no choice.
Right. I guess this is
reasonable and it's just
not. It's not. It's just not
reasonable. And I don't accept
that he had to do that.
I feel very upset for him.
They could have just done a dummy.
They could have made a fake person for that.
They really could have.
Yeah, they really could have.
They sure could have.
Let's watch the trailer.
Let's watch the trailer. Take a look at this! Greed. No one touches anything! Sloth, wrath, pride, lust, and envy.
Seven.
You can expect five more of these.
Body was found on Tuesday morning.
I hate this city.
We're gonna get who did this.
This will be the very definition of swift justice.
There are two more bodies, two more victims guy's methodical exacting worst of all patient
let's finish it brad pitt morgan freeman gwyneth paltrow
have you ever seen anything like this
no seven Have you ever seen anything like this?
No.
Seven.
Exciting.
Oh, let's do it.
Exciting trailer.
Oh, my God.
Can you guys please just tell us everything about this movie from start to finish?
I'm really excited.
Yes.
We sure can.
Well, first of all, we'll say Kevin Spacey is not in the trailer Obviously because he's an
Unknown villain
Until the end of the movie
And I remember the first time I saw it I was like surprised
I guess I must have been old enough to know
Who Kevin Spacey was
And I was like I didn't know he was in this
Because he's not in the opening credits either
Yeah
That's so interesting
It is
Very tricky
I feel like they don't do that anymore credits either. Yeah. That's so interesting. It is. Very tricky. Very tricky.
I feel like they don't do that anymore.
No. Like they wouldn't do that now. Your name
would be there. They'd be like, come see the movie. Yes.
All our cards on the table.
Exactly. Okay.
So this movie starts
at a crime scene, right? Yes.
And we get to meet our two main characters.
Yes. Is that where it starts?
Yeah. I think so.
Yeah. I think it starts with just Somerset at first.
Somerset is Morgan Freeman.
Yes.
Detective Somerset and Brad Pitt is Detective Mills.
Yeah.
And they're on a crime scene.
Right.
And he's new.
Yeah.
And Mills is new to the force.
He just moved.
And yeah, you get a little bit of their dynamic where
Somerset's the veteran
and he's kind of rolling his eyes at
Mills. Newbie. Yeah.
Young, hot newbie. Yeah, coming in
hot. And he's like, you know, this city
you haven't worked here before.
Oh, because he asked to be like transferred
to this specific district.
Yeah. Which is a tough
district. Yeah, it looks like a lot of violent crime happening here.
Yeah.
And we find out pretty quick that Somerset is about to retire.
Right.
Yeah.
He's about to retire.
And yeah, he asks, like, why did you come here?
And he doesn't.
He gives sort of an elusive answer.
Right.
He doesn't really say.
He's like, I want it.
I felt like I could do good or something.
Yeah.
Something weird.
Which seems like there's
more to it. Right.
I think they have like a little conversation with
the lieutenant or whatever. I don't know.
Yeah, we'll call him a lieutenant.
Police department hierarchy.
Sure, that sounds right to me.
It says something like, you know, you have your six days left
and he's like, I don't. Oh, no. Okay.
That's not yet. That's not yet. First, they get called
into the first disgusting crime scene. Oh, no. Okay. That's not yet. That's not yet. First, they get called into the
first
disgusting crime scene with the cockroaches. Right.
They get called to a new crime scene.
Cockroaches is right away. Cockroaches
is the first thing you see, basically.
It's as a corpse?
Yes. Yeah. It's a
corpse. This actor didn't even do
any acting?
His body should have cockroaches
put upon it? That's what I'm saying. They could have
just made a person.
No, no, no. I hope this
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I hope this trivia is just wrong. I bet it's not.
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They walk in, there's a corpse
sort of bent over.
That's
like a table.
How many pounds do we think we'd
say? 500? 500 pound
person. Huge person.
He's big. He's a
big man. He's a big man.
And I think at first they're
like, is this a murder?
Or is this just like he had a heart attack?
And then they see that his hands and
feet are bound.
Oh God. And there's a
bucket next to him.
Like filled with vomit.
A puke bucket. There's A puke bucket. Ew.
Ew.
Ew.
It's very nasty.
And there are cockroaches everywhere.
Cockroaches everywhere. The place is filthy.
Henley, you would hate it. Henley hates a filthy,
dirty scene.
This movie's going to be rough for you. There's a lot of dirtiness.
That's my least favorite thing
about horror movies is when they're dirty.
This one is filthy.
Actually, yeah. The coloring
in this movie I was noting.
I was like, man, it's so
dark and gray
and green and yellow. Those are the only
colors in the movie.
Light yellow. It's just very...
Like the colors of vomit.
Honestly, yes. the colors of death
that's what the dp said he was like i just want to feel like the movie is
that's right um okay and then the they eventually go to the coroner doing the autopsy on this man's body and
he basically says like his stomach
exploded like he ate himself to death
yeah but they find like a
bruise marking on his head from where
a gun was held to his head
yeah so someone
your face is
someone at gunpoint
made him eat himself to death and they said
they found they said they found two different receipts so that the person was so focused and I think patient.
He says, worst of all, patient.
And he went to the grocery store twice to get him enough food to eat himself to death.
Holy shit.
Why do I have that in my head?
I think it was.
It probably was.
And now I don't remember why. I think I don't know that. Wouldn't you rather just get shot in the head? I'm it was. It probably was. And now I don't remember why.
Wouldn't you rather just get shot in the head?
I'm sorry, but I would choose that.
Of course, yes. I definitely choose that
over eating. Oh, you're saying that he should have just
refused. Just not done it.
I think that in all of these
situations that we're going to get into here
That's going to be a common question.
So, can that
really happen?
I'm sure it can.
Yikes.
Although it does I mean not to go back to the puke
bucket but like
your body does just get
rid of before
I don't know.
I don't know if you would actually be able to
We're going to have to Google this. I don't think we want't know if you would actually be able We're going to have to google this
I don't think we want to
Yeah you're right
I hope it's not possible
But I kind of feel like it is
Okay so then
That happened
And then Somerset asks to be reassigned
He's like I Morgan Freeman
He's like I only have six days left
This is obviously a bigger deal.
A big one.
Yep.
And I don't want this to be the last thing that I do.
On my plate.
Yeah.
And I think you should reassign Brad Pitt as well because he's too new.
Yes.
And so Mills is all pissed off.
But heard about it.
And he gets reassigned.
He does move him to another case, right?
Yeah.
And then it ends up being
oh another murder right the second the second the second installment oh no yeah um so then
then we get to um a lawyer is it lawyer yep a lawyer who has been attorney who has been killed
and they have written on the ground of his office in blood greed.
Okay. Yikes.
Really spelling that one out for us.
He's a bit he's like I guess
a very big defense attorney
in the town so he's really popular
and people know of him.
I would maybe like a
Johnny Cochran of sorts.
Sure. Okay.
Wait so both of them were reassigned to this?
No, Somerset got...
He was like, sorry, you're
staying on this case. I'll move Mills
onto this other case. And then they end up being
the same case. Yeah. Got it.
Copy that. Yeah, so it said greed.
No one could figure out before they did this
reassignment that it was the same case?
No, because so far it's just like this other guy figured out the like connection yeah
connection yeah right okay because it's weird the first one you're not necessarily you're just like
this is gross force fed somebody like that's just a sick kind of person mystery yeah if it's two
different like weapons two different forms of yeah. So how was the defense attorney killed?
So badly.
Badly.
Badly killed.
Good.
Let's move on.
I think that's all the detail we need to know.
Let's move on.
No, they made him cut a pound of flesh out of
his body.
That is pat.
And put it on the scale.
To weigh. Yeah, it had to be exactly
a pound.
In the first one,
was there a message or
anything that was biblical?
After this scene, Somerset is like back in his office.
The lieutenant comes in and he's like, I've got these pieces of plastic that they found in your victim's stomach.
I guess he was fed them.
Yeah.
And Somerset's like, hmm.
Yeah.
He's curious.
He's very smart.
Yes. Putting it all together. And Somerset's like, hmm. Yeah. He's curious. He's very smart, Somerset.
Putting it all together. I always, when I'm watching these movies, I'm like, I would be the fucking worst
detective ever. Oh my god, me too. I'd be like, oh, alright.
Like, okay, some pieces of plastic?
Like, how do we know that? It's probably from the can
of food or whatever.
I'd be like, that doesn't mean anything.
Yes, exactly.
He takes the plastic
pieces and then goes back to the cockroach house and is kind of just looking around to see like, hmm, where could this plastic come from?
Leads him to the refrigerator, which he pulls out.
Right.
It's in the back of the refrigerator.
right it's in the back of the refrigerator and
it says
gluttony cut
out of the plastic
so then
it's like he pieces the plastic
back into the words
so yes
and that's where the message is it's like pinned
right there a little piece of paper
and it says
oh good you have I wrote it down.
Long is the way and hard that out of
hell leads up to light. And it's from
Paradise Lost.
And so Morgan Freeman
is very smart. He's really
immediately like going to the
library. He loves the library.
He knows the people there.
They're doing this on purpose because I think they're showing
us they do a whole scene about him at the library and there's beautiful music in the background.
It's like a little montage, library montage.
Yes.
Doing his research.
And that library is gorgeous.
They have these green lamps that are beautiful library lamps.
It is a really pretty library.
Really makes you want to like hunker down and study.
Yes.
And learn a lot about really fucked up things.
Dax, I guess, got obsessed with those lamps the first time he saw them.
And so he bought like four of those lamps and they're just sitting in like a closet somewhere.
I must have them and never use them.
Exactly.
These green lamps.
But anyway, yes.
But then he makes a packet for Detective Mills.
Yes.
Like a study packet.
Yes. Yes. Like a study packet. Yes.
Yeah.
He's like, make sure you make sure you read like these books, all these books about like
the sins, seven deadly sins.
And he's Professor Detective.
Yes.
But then they showed Detective Mills like unable to comprehend any of it and has to
get somebody to give him a cliff nose.
It's so funny.
It really made me laugh.
Me too. Oh, that's very funny.
So they're kind of telling us he's a little bit
dim. Yeah.
In relation to Somerset.
Yes. Maybe he has like street
smarts though, right? Oh, he does.
We'll get there.
And then Gwyneth Paltrow's character is Tracy and she we'll get there and then
Gwyneth Paltrow's character is Tracy
and she calls
the office and invites
Somerset to dinner
and they're not getting along at this point
Mills and Somerset
there's a tench
not a sexual tension just a regular
tension
I would be interested
I know.
Me too.
I would be interested.
I'm here for that spinoff.
Spinoff.
So then he goes to dinner
and...
Because now they're back working together because the cases
are related. Yeah, the cases joined so they're back together.
They're sharing an office.
Just can't quit each other.
He hides his cliff notes because he's
embarrassed. He gets in and puts them in a drawer
real quick.
It's a cute dynamic.
I like this.
It is.
This is good. And then they go to dinner
or they have dinner at the house and
you learn that Tracy
and David, David Mills
were high school sweethearts they have
This cute banter cute relationship
She said she thinks
He's the funniest person she's ever
Met and then you cut to him like
Wrestling with these dogs and looking like a
Dum-dum and
It's a funny moment
It is funny
And then they're over a subway
They're all it seems like they're not very happy
in their current position that's what you're getting out of it like they're their apartments
over a subway it starts the whole apartment starts shaking in the middle of the dinner
and they have to be like oh yeah the realtor like this the fucking realtor told us x y and z and
they only let us in for five minutes. Now we know why.
And they're just a little
unhappy with their current situation.
But they're all getting along.
They all start laughing. Oh, that's really the moment.
They all start laughing hysterically.
Belly laughing at the shaking house.
He's like, you've just got a real nice vibrating
apartment. And they laugh so
hard.
So, so hard. They couldn't stop.
Morgan Freeman laughing really hard is something I feel
like I don't see very often.
And it's often a very serious
role. So seeing his face
in a really big smile was a treat.
That's true.
I would love to see it. You're right.
So after this dinner, are they fully bonded?
Like, are they back on track to be
friends? But he's be friends bonding more with Tracy
Morgan Freeman he's bonding
with Mills
like through Tracy I feel like oh I like
your partner that makes me like
Tracy's the conduit for that machine
kind of I think did that on purpose
right she's an emotionally intelligent
person so let's have him over
as women tend to do let me
fix this for you
yeah but then they start working on the case bulls on you so let's have them over as women tend to do let me fix this for you yeah
yeah
but then they start working on the case again
at night in the apartment
and then they get a call
or is that the next
day they're looking at photos
of the crime scene of the lawyer
crime scene
and there's a photo of his
wife on his desk
the lawyer's wife with
blood drawn around her eyes
and they're like
that means she knows something
or she'll see something
it's like a clue she sees
something or she'll be able to see
something yes which again is something I would
not personally get to that conclusion
they're going to cut her eyes out
exactly and so they go and question the wife which again is something I would not personally get to that conclusion. They're going to cut her eyes out. Yes, exactly.
And so they go and
question the wife.
And they're just showing her all these photos
of this very graphic
crime scene of her husband.
They've put like post-it notes over
his body so that she doesn't
have to see him.
It's true.
And she's crying a lot.
Almost comically, I would
say. Yeah, a lot.
And she's like, I can't do this right now.
And then she's like,
wait a second. In this
photo, this painting on
this wall is upside down.
Another clue.
Another clue.
Another clue.
So then they go to the office and they take the painting down and they're like looking nothing.
Everything looks fine.
They like take the backing off the painting.
Nothing.
And then Brad Pitt says, we're getting fucked right now.
And then he bent over and he said, this is what we are. This is what's happening to us.
He is funny. Genius. He is what's happening to us. He is funny.
Genius.
He is. He's the funniest
guy she's ever met.
But then
Somerset, being the smart
man that he is, pulls out like the
duster fingerprints thing
and does the wall and it says
in fingerprint, help me.
Oh, no.
Yeah. Talk no. Yeah.
Talk about a clue.
That is a real capital C
clue. Big, big clue.
So then they run these fingerprints.
Yeah. And
get a match eventually. Yeah.
And it's like a man
with a criminal history. I can't remember exactly
some like
minor violent crimes. Was there pedophilia?
I want to say there was. I think there
was. It was bad.
Yes, that one's major.
Wow, the
irony also. Circling
back to the young
boy. Oh my gosh, the irony.
Oh wow. Kevin Spacey
on set was like...
Oh boy. He's really getting into character. irony oh wow kevin spacey on set was like oh boy oh boy anyway so yes this person was not a
by all means good person but so they're like they're thinking like we've got our guy yeah
this is the this is him and so they get the SWAT team. They're going in for a raid.
They break down the door of this apartment that they've tracked him to.
And he has air fresheners hanging on like all the ceilings. Hundreds in like two rooms full of air fresheners.
Yeah.
And there is like a figure in the bed.
Under the covers cover under the covers
this is what I remember from watching this movie
this is what I remember
they're screaming at him get up
get up motherfucker
and he's not getting up
he can't
and they eventually
pull down the sheets and
I feel like words can't really
describe how
awful this person
looks. It is like
a corpse, like a decrepit
corpse. I feel like it looks almost
out of like an orc out of Lord
of the Rings or something.
It looks so thin.
Bed sores everywhere.
Not even thin.
Barely skin on both.
It's a skeleton, essentially.
And then they find a stack of
Polaroids that are dated
and it's like
the one on top, they're like, oh, this was three days ago.
And they go back
and the first Polaroid is from a year
ago. To the day.
And he has been, he's strapped onto the bed. But it is from a year ago. So he has to the day and he has been he's he's strapped onto
the bed. So it's normal
looking that day. Yes. So on
the first year ago, he looks
normal. And so this man has been strapped
to this bed for a year and
it says sloth on the
wall and
like one of
the SWAT like hotheaded SWAT
guys is like in his face and he's like, you fucking deserved the SWAT, like hotheaded SWAT guys is like in his face.
Yeah.
And he's like, you fucking deserved it, though.
Like you pedophile or whatever.
And right as he does it, the corpse guy is like.
He springs to life.
I remember this.
I remember also not being when I saw this movie.
I was too young and blacked out most of it.
But I do remember this being the first
time I became aware of bed sores
as a concept.
It's not a good concept.
That's a thing that happens?
It's awful.
Oh yeah.
Very nasty. That's what you'd call a
pop out that moment.
It got me.
Big time.
They take him to the
hospital and he's
in
a little tent and they're
like do you think he'll be able to talk and
say anything and they're like
oh no like if his brain wasn't
mush which it is
he chewed off his tongue a long time
ago. Oh my god.
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yikes. Why?
I guess you're going, he's just
going crazy, most likely.
And like maybe trying, oh god.
It's just very bad.
So he was just, he was strapped on the bed.
Does it seem like there's like anything
else going on or he was just strapped on the bed
for a year straight? Well, I think they say kind of some of the details
like what the killer
must have been doing they're like
that he injected like vitamins into him
to keep him alive
and like cleaning him
I think and like changing when he goes to
the bathroom maybe
I don't know but they're like the
amount of like care
that he had to
put into it to keep him
alive for a year
in this condition is
disturbing.
It's the perfect word to use.
Yeah.
That's a bad one.
That was a bad one.
How did his fingerprints end up on the wall?
They cut his finger off. Sorry, that was a big part.
We forgot.
They cut his whole hand off.
He's still alive.
Missing a hand.
They cut his hand off, too.
So the murderer wanted them to find him.
It's like a scavenger hunt.
It's generally a scavenger hunt.
He's on a goose chase.
He is having fun.
And that's what Mills keeps saying. He's like, he's fucking with us. He's bending us goose chase He is having fun And that's what Mills keeps saying
He's like he's fucking with us
He's bending us over the table
He knows we're
Falling into his trap
Right
Then Tracy calls
Somerset
She's like I need to talk to someone
I don't know anyone in this city
And I just want to talk
And so they meet up at a diner And she's like, I need to talk to someone. I don't know anyone in this city and I just want to talk.
And so they meet up at a diner.
And she just doesn't like the city.
That was the line in the trailer.
I just don't like the city.
And she is looking for a job, but just can't find a job.
And then we get the information that she is
pregnant she's pregnant
and then he tells her
you know I used to
I was in this relationship
before and she got
pregnant and
we decided basically we decided not to keep
it he didn't he didn't think they could
have be happy in
that city i think and also he says like it was the first time i went to work and was afraid like
because he like felt like he has something to lose i suppose so being a detective a murder detective
he was like it like messed with my head with my job oh Yeah. I think he says if you decide not to keep it, don't
ever tell him. You're right.
Because he says
I know I made the right decision,
but there isn't a day that goes by that I don't
wish I made the other decision. Okay.
He doesn't want him to have any regrets.
Right. Yeah. Then
more library stuff.
Back to the library.
Back to the library. Back to the library.
Study montage.
Yeah.
And Somerset has this friend who works for the FBI.
Which you don't know immediately.
Immediately, he just looks like this weirdo.
Like a man off the street.
Yes.
And he seems skeptical of Mills.
But he's like, he's cool.
He's cool.
And then they exchange some like
Money and then the guy leaves
And Mills is like well that was money well spent
Right and then
Somerset tells
Mills like you know
Basically the FBI
Sort of has tabs on us
Like at the library if you
Check out certain books
They're flagged and they mark You know they have a file of the people who checked out.
Sorry.
Books on murder.
Can I be calm?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those kind of things that then you're on like a list.
Yeah.
That is not legally like you can't use that in a court of law because it's illegal
yeah but
he's like
could send you on the right track
yeah and so he
check out mine conf at the library
good question
you shouldn't be able to
but well if you try you'll end up on a list
yeah yeah interesting
but that scene was kind of funny too because like now I just feel like being watched is
so normal that I was like, this is funny that it's like a big deal.
You're like books being watched.
Brad Pitt's like that.
That's how could that be legal?
And now I'm like, everything we do is monitored.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
But yeah, then this guy comes back with a name.
Yeah.
And the name is John Doe.
Yep.
And an address.
And he's checked out all of the,
all of the books that they've been kind of using for research,
all of Dante's Inferno and whatnot.
Canterbury Tales.
Yeah.
All these things.
This is such an interesting detail that like he checked them all out at the library.
I guess at that time though,
I guess you could buy books.
Yeah.
You could buy books or you could just like go
to the library and read them and not check them
out. But I guess you don't think you're being watched.
Yeah. Is this a setup though?
Or no? This one's not.
And it's also like, why would you make your library
card John Doe
in like with your address on it?
If you're a killer. A killer person.
A super smart killer. Steal someone else's
library card?
That is weird. He didn't and they go to his apartment If you're a killer. A killer person. A super smart killer. Steal someone else's library card? Anyways.
That is weird.
He didn't.
And they go to his apartment.
And as they're knocking on his door, they see him coming home at the end of the hall.
And they're like, oh, police.
And he drops his groceries and shoots at them.
Yeah.
And this is Kevin Spacey.
Or we don't see his face. We don't see his face. It's all hidden. He's shoots at them. Yeah. And this is Kevin Spacey.
Or we don't see his face. We don't see his face.
It's all hidden.
He's too far away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He starts shooting at them.
And then a big, crazy chase scene.
They start a huge chase scene.
And this is like a big apartment building.
They're running through like people's apartments.
People are running and like screaming, jumping through windows.
The cops are jumping through the windows.
Then it goes outside.
It's raining.
Then he goes back inside again.
This is a long chase. It's very long.
Very, very long. And they're not together. They're like, you know, we keep cutting
from Somerset to Mills and they're all over
the place and they're just
missing him over and over and over
again. And then they're outside.
They run by a van and Mills is like sneaking around it thinking he's like almost got him.
And then he's on top of the van and he hits him in the head with like something, some like metal thing and knocks Brad Pitt down.
Oh, no.
Brad Pitt drops his gun and John Doe jumps down, grabs his gun and is like holding it to Brad Pitt's head temple and is like, I just feel like you kind of see that he's just enjoying this little moment.
Yeah.
Like being in power.
Yeah.
You still don't see his face.
You never see his face.
OK.
OK.
Oh, we forgot a part.
Let's say we have to go back.
OK, let's go back. Unless it hasn't
happened yet.
This is a
big thing that we do on the podcast a lot.
It's hard to say.
Okay, I think this was
maybe in the greed area,
but where they're
somewhere in a hall
talking
and a journalist comes
up a photographer journalist
comes up to them and is like trying to take
pictures and Brad Pitt's like hey hey get
out of here get out of here right and
then the guy leaves and then Somerset's
like those people pay a lot
for pictures and stuff so he's kind of
that was weird annoyed that he
yeah Somerset's annoyed that Mills like shoot
him away because he was like, we could have
made some money.
That's weird.
So that was earlier on, right?
I think it was.
That happened a while ago, but that comes up
later, so we have to bring that back.
Back to the chase.
Back to the chase. John Doe's got the gun
to Mills' head, and he
just kind of sits there for like a
couple seconds enjoying it and then
runs off. Leaves him. Oh, he doesn't.
Doesn't kill him. Yeah. And then Somerset
finds him. They go back up
to John Doe's
house and
Mills is ready to like bust down the door.
Somerset's like, we can't.
We need a warrant. We technically have
no reason to be here.
We got his name off an illegal FBI book list.
So none of this would be admissible in court.
And then he'd get he'd get off.
And so, like, you don't want to do this.
And he's like, oh, you're right.
You're right.
When you're right, you're right.
And then bust down the door.
He's a bit of a hothead.
Yeah.
We call him a hothead.
But yeah,
his house is essentially
a murderer's house. He's got all
his plans. Standard. And he's
got some like trophy cases with his
previous
murders that we've seen.
The man's like sloth
cut off hand is there
in like a case.
Ew.
And like formaldehyde it is.
It's gross.
Yeah.
And then Mills finds the photograph.
He has like a dark room with all his photographs.
And he sees.
Every creepy killer has a dark room. This is a real treasure trove of clues.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, he finds the he finds pictures of him. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, he finds
pictures of him
in the hallway.
So the journalist
was him, was John Doe.
Was Kevin. So he was like,
we had him, we had him the whole time.
He was right there.
And so, oh my
God.
Yeah.
Typical serial killer behavior. Wanting to
get close to the crime.
Back to the scene of the crime.
Yes. Wow.
Yeah. And then
there's like two more crime
scenes back to back. First
we've had three deaths.
We've had gluttony, greed,
sloth. Yeah.
And the next one we get
is lust. This is the one
I remembered from seeing it the first time.
I hate it.
I don't like how this is gonna go.
Yeah. And I can't remember
how they like find
out about it. Get us there. Yeah.
I don't really remember, but they go to like an adult
sex shop and they like
find out maybe there's a receipt
in his apartment for this
sex shop that's what it is right
and so they go and they're like what did you make
for this man and he's like yeah
I figured he was like um
some novelty item
guy or whatever
and he made him like
an enormous knife dildo
it's like a huge
a huge like
I don't know yeah knife dildo is exactly 10 inch knife dildo. It's like a huge like...
I don't know. Yeah, knife dildo
is exactly... 10-inch knife dildo thing.
It's enormous. What's the difference between
a knife and a knife dildo?
Good question, Henley.
You can put it
on your penis.
Or like strap-on
knife device.
Strap-on knife device.
I guess not a dildo.
So he
fucked someone with a knife?
Well, just wait.
Wait, this is bad for Emily, who does
not like knives. I don't like knives!
This is bad for me only.
Me exclusively.
All those collectors
out there.
I don't know how but they find like whatever
um like prostitution house yeah like yeah like brothel of sorts yeah and um i guess i guess that
they just report the crime and they're called to a brothel okay yeah and they find the dead woman
and a man on the floor like like, like crying and screaming, get this thing
off me, get this fucking thing off me.
So you like see that he has been like forced to do it to wear her knife device.
Oh, my God.
Have sex with this lady and kill this lady.
Oh, my God.
Gunpoint.
Yes.
We met again.
Take the gunshot.
What are you doing? Take the gunshot. Oh, my God. Again! Again! Take the gun shot! What are you doing?
Definitely take the gun shot. Oh my god.
For sure. The idea of living a life after
having done, like who?
But you don't like see
the woman, which is an interesting
thing
that we've talked about before, where you
fill it in with your mind. Oh my god, imagining it
is better. I had remembered like it
being an incredibly graphic.
Yeah. And it's not. It's the thing where
it shows you a shot and she's blocked.
You can just see her legs like
up and then it like just shows
him. But I had filled it in
with my head. This was
yeah. A really good scene.
I'm doing it. Nope. Yeah.
It's awful. So everyone listening at
home is doing it too.
Sorry. Sorry. Nope. Yeah, it's awful. So everyone listening at home is doing it too. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
And then there's the Pride one.
And again, I can't remember how they got to that one.
These kind of happen real quick.
These happen real quick back to back.
I guess they're just called in.
And they're like, he's moving faster.
Yes.
But so then there's pride where they cut off
a woman's nose
that has like a lot
of plastic surgery and they're like cut
off her nose to spider face Morgan
Freeman really filling it in
yeah
does she die
from that I guess
does she
we don't know I don't know.
I think she did. She must have bled to death or something.
I guess so. Yeah.
I think all these people died. Yeah.
Ultimately they all died. Yeah.
Okay. And so then they go
back to the station and
they're like, oh God, like we're
only two left. Like we gotta catch him.
Time's running out. And then
in walks blood
covered Kevin Spacey
with his hands up
yeah and he's like detectives
oh that part
it's so
it's so scary and intense
it is scarier knowing how
scary he is yeah
he's a very good actor but now
my brain can fill in the blanks. I'm like, this is a
scary man. He's also a predator.
A real life predator.
And then he did that crazy video when he got
kicked off of House of Cards. That video was so crazy.
It was like a fucking real life serial killer.
Anyway, if you haven't watched it,
bonus material.
It's scary.
We shouldn't be indulging him. Anyway,
he comes in. But his hands are, yeah, covered
in blood. And his fingertips are all
taped up. That was the thing that they kept saying was
we're not able, we couldn't find any fingerprints in
his whole apartment. How the fuck is that
possible? And he cuts
off his fingerprints
like regularly because they would grow
back. And so he's like constantly
and the opening credits also, forgot to
mention, are like close ups of someone
cutting off their fingertips.
Why not just always wear
gloves?
I guess not as cool.
He's crazy.
Any chance for
error. Oh yeah. He's very meticulous.
Yeah. This man.
Oh man. Yeah. So then detectives
he's turning himself in to an extent. Can't This man. Oh, man. Yeah. So then detectives he caught and he's turning
himself in to an extent.
Can't trust that. He's like,
I want to talk to my lawyer.
Just like, okay.
Also
in retrospect, like what?
Just say the thing that you
have to say. Yeah. So
then the lawyer sits the detectives
down and is like
there are two more bodies
two more sins and
he wants to take you to the bodies
and he says if you don't take him
you'll never find them. Yeah.
And so. Wow. So the lawyer
is complicit in this too.
I don't know. He seems pretty
like straight faced about it like
this is just my job.
Don't shoot the messenger. I don't know. He seems pretty straight-faced about it. Like, this is just my job. Don't shoot the messenger. I don't think he knows
anything about where the
bodies are. He just was told to tell them that.
He's just relaying information, which is why
it's like, why did you need this lawyer? Just tell
them that.
I don't know.
It's a power play.
They agree.
They're driven to
a place out of nowhere and
there's like a cop helicopter
circling
also. So like they're prepared. They have
all these people. Right. But
it's only the three of them in the
van driving, right?
He's like in the backseat. Yep.
And like talking to
them a bit or like what does he say? He has like a heft probably. He's like in the backseat and like taunting them a bit or like
what does he say? He's like cuffed
probably. He's like excited.
He's like I can't wait for you guys
to see this. I can't wait.
Is he restrained? Yes.
Yes. He's in his
like orange jumpsuit now too.
And yeah handcuffs and
basically Mills is like
there's just a long scene of like some,
some good creepy dialogue between all of us.
Like crazy people know that they're crazy.
Like when you're doing all this crazy shit,
are you like, man, it's like so weird.
How crazy.
Yeah.
Good question.
It's so weird how crazy I am.
And he goes on like a big rant.
He's like, yeah,
cause you're just like killing innocent people
And he's like innocent people
You think these are innocent people
And he's like a man so fat
That he like you would like
You'd stop eating if you saw him
I was like Jesus Christ that's still an innocent person
I know
And he goes through all of them
That's a weird one to start with
He goes through them all as to why they're horrible.
They're sins, I guess.
Yeah, they're sinners.
And so he's like, there's a sin on every street corner in every house and we just live with it because that's the disgusting world we live in.
Everyone's sinners now.
And yeah, that's the creepy part is when he's like, and like, and when.
Moral stance to take from a murderer.
Yeah.
Well, that's why it's so creepy, because it's like he believes in it in a real way.
Yeah.
Which that's the serial killer part.
That's like so unsettling because they think they're doing something.
Yes.
Ultimately good.
Yeah.
It's so delusional.
Also, wasn't this the plot line of the Black Hood in Riverdale? Just throwing that in for a second. Oh, I haven't seen. I good. Yeah. It's so delusional. Also, wasn't this the plot line of the Black Hood
in Riverdale? Just throwing that in
for a second. Oh, I haven't seen. I don't know.
It kind of was. It was, right?
And yeah, but he's like
basically when you like see
these last two, like you're
going to remember, you're going to remember me
and you're going to be remembered.
You should be thanking me because you're going to
be remembered after today. They're going to be the last two, aren't they?
And like saying some pretty ominous
shit. Oh, it's so ominous. Oh my god.
So then they get
to basically the middle of a
field, a road. They get out.
He's like, and then they walk into the middle of this field
and they're kind of like looking around.
He says, what time is it?
And he's like, it's 7.01. And he's
like, ah, he's close or it's 701 and he's like ah he's
close or it's close yeah and they start
like walking into like a field
and then they see like a
van like barreling down
towards them and like the helicopters like what's
that like where everyone's like freaking out thinking like
it's gonna be like a bomb or something like what the
hell is that then
um um morgan freeman
like runs over and has his
gun he's like stop the car get out of the car and the guy gets out and he's like i'm just a delivery guy Then Morgan Freeman like runs over and has his gun.
He's like, stop the car, get out of the car.
And the guy gets out and he's like, I'm just a delivery guy.
It's like a FedEx guy, basically.
Yeah.
He's like, I just this guy paid me 500 bucks to like drive out here and deliver this box at exactly seven.
And then they're cutting back and forth from Somerset with this guy and getting the box and then Mills and John Doe.
with this guy and getting the box and then Mills and
John Doe and John Doe starts
asking
or talking about Mills
wife and family
and he's like also
yeah he's going um when I
said I admired you because he had he said
earlier that he admired him in the car
he said that from being able to
like track down his house he was
like that was like pretty impressive.
Like, I really admire you.
And yeah, he's basically now saying like, I wasn't lying when I said I admired you.
Like, are you listening to me?
Like, I really admire you and your family.
And then they cut to Somerset, who opens the box.
Oh, God.
And then we don't see what it is, but he has a big reaction, a big reaction.
And then he starts sprinting towards them.
And he's like, everyone, like, stop.
Drop your guns.
He drops his gun.
He's like, he says, John Doe has the upper hand.
John Doe has the upper hand.
He's screaming that.
John Doe has the upper hand.
I just got chills.
I know. That's screaming that. John Doe has the upper hand. I just got chills. I know.
That's huge.
Yes. And
Mills is like, what the fuck's
going on? He's not dropping his gun.
He's like, no, no, no. Like, tell me what's going
on.
And like, what's going on?
What's going on? And
panic is like at a hundred.
You're like, what's in the box? What's in the box? And then and then yeah then it's the famous yeah what's
in the box what's in the box is that i mean does he like just start kind of piecing it together
i think something gets said that happens in the movie yes i didn't know that yeah i just want to
know it's in the box oh that's like a famous famous line famous line comes from truth i guess
we all want to know what's in the box.
We all want to know what's in the box.
It's a normal question to ask.
But yes, you're right.
First, John Doe says, yeah, I said that I admired your wife and I went to your house this morning.
Yes.
And I had breakfast with her.
Oh, no.
And then.
No, no, no.
She didn't want to
or something. And so I took a token.
Right. Something like that.
And so then he's like, what the fuck are you talking
about? And then he's like, what's in the box?
What's in the box? And
and I think Kevin Spacey says
her pretty little head.
Scary.
Scary.
That is so fucked up. That is so scary.
That is so fucked up. And then he's like, no, no, he doesn't believe him.
And then Somerset is like, you cannot.
If you kill him, he wins.
He wants you to kill him.
Because it's envy and wrath.
Wrath is the last sin that he
would be executing he would be killing
him out of vengeance
so he's like
if you do this he wins
don't do it
oh and he says he says she
begged for her life and the life of her
unborn child and
then Brad Pitt's reaction
John Doe's like,
oh, you didn't know.
Ah! Whoa.
Whoa. And so
God, what an asshole.
Mills is very angry.
Yeah. Filled with
wrath. Yes.
Makes sense. And he shoots him.
He kills him. He kills him.
Yeah. Damn it.
He falls into the trap. He does it. He completed it.
He completes the school plan.
And it
ends with him going to
prison. He gets arrested.
He's in a cop car. In the back of a cop car.
Mills is? Yes. Because you can't just kill
a prisoner.
I know.
But we don't know. We don't get to go to trial
With him we're not sure what happened
Oh right because he wasn't a threat
He was handcuffed
And just fucking with them
And so yeah
The assumption being that now
Brad Pitt's life is also
Over ruined
Probably going to prison
And certainly can't be a detective anymore.
And his wife is dead.
I mean, yeah, I don't know how you recover from seeing your wife's head in a box.
He didn't see her, but he probably did eventually.
None of us are.
That was another one that my mom actually said I have like the visual of her head in the box.
We don't see it.
That's wild.
Another one that you just fill in.
Yeah.
Wow.
So not a happy ending.
No. No.
No, it's bleak.
Yeah.
Because he drives away and then the lieutenant is like, where will you be or where are you
going to go to Somerset?
And he's like, I'll be around.
And then there's a voiceover.
Do you have it?
He says, I don't have it exactly, but it's something like this world is good and worth
saving, I think.
And he says, agree only agree with the
second part yeah I agree with the second
part something like that
that's it the world is bad
oh wow
it is but worth saving
that is crazy isn't this technically a horror movie
I don't think so
but it is scary and there are like
horrific images
that will stick with you forever
The ones that you make up in your mind
That you didn't actually see like a knife
Rape death
Well it's like why I have had nightmares after
Doing this podcast sometimes because it's like
It ultimately isn't what
You see necessarily that
Is the scariest part it's like what
You think about what sticks with you
Yeah what you're left with, like the message
of some of these things, especially this one.
Yeah. Oh, man.
And I mean, always like
real life killers are much scarier
to me than actually, I mean, ghosts
are my scariest, but
in terms of scary movies.
But it goes ghosts, demons,
killers, aliens and
monsters and stuff. I don't really care about that. For me, it goes ghosts, demons, killers. Ghosts, demons, killers. Aliens and monsters and stuff. I don't really care about that.
For me, it's killers, demons, ghosts.
Yeah.
I gotta say.
Yeah.
I think I'm demons number one.
Yeah, demons number one for me.
I didn't know that I was scared of demons until we started doing this.
And I learned about how things that I would have thought are ghosts sometimes are demons.
Demons have more malice than ghosts. Demons are the mean ghosts.
Demons are a mean ghost.
Demons aren't human. Demons are not human.
And never were human.
They're like, you know, the devil.
Right. And then ghosts
are just, you know, angry humans.
But they could be also not angry.
They could be also friendly ghosts
Casper
demons are always angry see I don't
believe in ghosts or demons
so killers are my number one thing
because they're real
killers are like
obviously I'm the most scared of and then
it's like
the gap is huge before
I hit
demons I guess first and then
ghosts. Although ghosts
I believe in a little more than
demons so I'm a little maybe more scared
of ghosts because I'm like that's true.
True.
I maybe don't either but if
they were real they would be the scariest.
The possibility that they could be is
like well that would be bad that would
be bad killers would also be bad
killers are bad killers are the
worst
are bad
especially sociopaths
are bad
well I'm glad we came to that conclusion
we learned a lot today
my goodness we did it
thank you Monica I mean I'm never going to
see this movie, probably.
No, I might. I am going to look up a lot
of images of 1995 Brad Pitt because I've
been inspired. Oh, please do. We all should.
I'm going to go to Mess Hall
straight after this. And I'm never leaving.
Yeah.
Keep us updated. Let us know if you have
any sightings. I will.
Gray leather.
Green gray leather. The most elusive
description I've ever heard.
Purchase something like that.
Also like really hot outfit.
Like physically warm
outfit to be wearing
in Los Angeles.
And it was Los Angeles.
He might have been riding his motorcycle.
And that's where he was.
He probably was.
For sure.
Oh, God.
He's hot.
He's so hot.
Another big revelation.
That is a huge one.
Huge one.
Hey, Brad, if you're listening, we all think you're hot.
Yeah, come on the pod.
You may have never heard this.
You maybe never heard this.
We think you're hot.
We know your self-esteem needs a boost. Just as like a heads up for women who don't know you think you're hot. Your self-esteem needs a boost.
Just as a heads up for women who don't know you
think you're hot.
Great.
Thanks for having me, guys.
Thank you so much for being here.
It made me re-watch that movie.
It was so good.
I love re-watching movies. I would advise everyone
to watch it. It's very well done. I think I'm going to see this one.
I'm going to see it. Henley's going to watch it. I'm going to watch it.
You're going to watch it at Netflix on mute?
Yeah. Literally.
And he's going to look at it. He's going to look at this movie.
And I'm going to go read
Twilight. So great. Big day.
Big day.
Thank you so much, Monica. Thank you.
Thank you, everyone. And goodbye.
Goodbye.
Bye. Hi, Monica. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. And goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Hi, everyone.
Emily here.
Thanks for listening to another episode of Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
We had a great time with Monica talking about how attractive Brad Pitt is.
And Brad, if you are listening, I still think so.
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