Too Scary; Didn't Watch - SLEEPY HOLLOW
Episode Date: September 18, 2024Johnny Depp, Christina Ricci, and several older white men who you may or may not recognize -- we're recapping Tim Burton's SLEEPY HOLLOW! Join us as we head back to 1999...the movie year that... keeps on giving!!!! Movie Intro @ 24:27Trivia @ 29:13Recap starts @ 35:06TrailerFollow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to Too Scary Scary Didn't Watch,
the horror movie recap podcast
for those too scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies
and so I watch them so that you don't have to,
but not today, baby.
Not today, baby.
Henley's brave today.
What a day. Ooh, what a day. Not today, baby. Henley's brave today. What a day.
Ooh, what a day.
I'm so brave.
You wanna skip straight to hearing Henley be brave.
There are timestamps in the show notes
to get to that recap because first,
we are checking in with each other.
You guys, did anything scary happen to you this week?
Okay, yeah. Oh no, what? Tell us.
Something scary happened to me this week.
And it was one of those where I was like,
I can't even tell my fucking friends because I have to wait.
I love it when this happens.
But also I don't, depending on what it is.
Oh, you guys. Okay.
Uh-oh.
If my friends Amanda or Stephanie are listening,
just brace yourselves and you'll know why in a minute.
I, it's okay, so on Friday,
I went to the tailor to pick up my wedding dress.
I'll save you the fear right now.
That's not the scary part.
The dress is great.
Okay, whew, whew, whew.
The dress is great, The dress is great.
It fits great.
I'm feeling wonderful.
But so I went to the tailor after work, tried it on.
Great. Good to go.
Joel and I had decided we were going to meet for a drink,
just to do like happy hour somewhere on Friday.
So I was driving to meet him at a bar.
And as I'm driving, I felt this like a prick
or like a sharpness like on my back.
And I was like, oh, did I get like a tag?
You know that feeling of like something's just kind
of poking you or something.
Like I felt it, I felt under my shirt
and I was like, oh, I don't know what that is.
But like I got like pricked by something, whatever.
I'm driving and I parked, parked in the street
and I'd been like waiting for a while to try to find a spot
because I had to find street parking.
And then I saw one open up.
So pulled into the parking space.
I saw I had a text from Joel and he was like,
okay, I'm at the bar.
So I gotta put my car in park.
And when I do so, I look down at my hand
and emerging from inside my shirt,
down my arm is a fucking spider.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I screamed, flung my hand, flung the spider,
who fucking knows where.
No.
Immediately, it is daytime out, it says 5.30 PM,
the sun is still up, I am on a public street,
I fucking took my shirt off,
I am shaking my shirt off in the car,
I don't see any spider,
so I put my shirt back on because I was like,
I have to pee clothes, I called Joel and I was like,
I need you to come out here, I put my shirt back on because I was like, I have to pee clothes. I called Joel and I was like,
I need you to come out here.
I need you to check me for spiders.
Like what the fuck just happened?
How big of a spider are we talking?
Fucking big, okay?
Like the size, like probably the size of my fucking,
like thumbnail, like all the way around.
That's the body size?
No.
No, but like.
But that's still big.
That's huge. Not a baby, like not a tiny? No. No, but like, Okay, okay. But that's still big, that's huge.
Not a baby, like not a tiny guy.
And I'm also like, okay, so that's what I fucking felt
on my side is I got bit by a fucking spider.
No.
And so I'm like, what kind of spider was it?
Like, I don't know.
Am I about to get like, what the fuck is about to happen?
No.
And so I called Joel and I was like,
I need you to come out here, I need you to come here.
And so he's like, okay. And he was like, where are you parked? I was like, I got my spider and I need you to, I just need you to come here. And so he's like, okay.
And he was like, where are you parked?
I was like, I don't know, I don't know,
I'm in the street, you'll see it, it's by,
I'm by yellow, I was like-
You'll see me, I'm naked in the middle of the sidewalk
for you now. I know, I was like,
I don't know, I was very close to the bar
and he knew where I was.
So he came and I get out of the car,
take my shirt off again on the street.
And I was like, I need, I need you to check my shirt.
I need like other spiders in my, are there spiders in my shirt?
A woman is like walking her dog and looking at us
while I'm just like half naked on the street.
I was like, I don't care.
I will strip naked on the street right now.
I care about nothing other than making sure
there are no fucking spiders on me.
Check the shirt, there's no spiders.
Put it back on, we check the car.
I don't know, like by now, I haven't driven the car since,
like by now, like maybe that car belongs to a spider.
Like I don't know where this spider is.
You haven't been back in the car since this happened?
No!
Oh my God.
It's a spider's car now.
Oh my God.
I'm like, it's fine, but the bite is fine.
I kept checking it, it's normal.
It's just like a lit, it doesn't look like anything.
And it's...
Ew, but yeah, you really hate to see it coming out
of the shirt.
Oh.
When they fit on your person, it's not okay.
For like 20 minutes.
It was munchin'.
So here's why it happened.
Here's why it didn't happen.
I was at the tailor and I took my shirt off
and hung it like on a hook on the wall,
like not on a hanger, just like on the wall,
inside of the shirt to the facing the wall.
And this fucking spider must have crawled into my shirt.
And then I put the shirt on without seeing
if there was a spider in it and then wore that spider
for 20 fucking minutes.
Wore the spider.
While it bit my back.
Like thank fucking God I had put the car in park
before I discovered this fucking
spider inside my shirt. What would you have done if you're like on the highway? What would you have
done? Crashed my fucking car because I was, I was, I there was no like it's instinct logic to the
moment. Yeah, I was like pure instinct, pure animal brain. Oh, you guys, it was so awful.
It was so awful. And I couldn't stop for like the next,
we went to the bar and got a drink and I was like,
I immediately upon entering the bar,
ran into one of Joel's former coworkers
who I'd never met, who was lovely and was great.
But I was being like, hi, I said,
Spider just bit me and I was really weird.
I couldn't.
I just couldn't shake it for so long
and every little physical sensation I felt
for like the next hour, I was like spider, spider.
The feeling of like thinking you have a bug on you
is truly maddening and.
And it's usually not true.
And this time I had reason to know that it had been true.
It had been true just moments ago.
Oh my God.
So who's to say it couldn't be true again?
Exactly.
And I just, and it was so upsetting
and I couldn't even tell you guys about it.
You couldn't even text us immediately.
That took so much willpower.
I'm so impressed.
This reminds me of two little stories.
Can I tell you real quick?
Please.
So one at my first high school that I went to,
the principal had like a huge dent in his head,
like a big old dent in his forehead, noticeable.
It was like, it went in.
Like the dent in my head, but in the back.
No, no, in his forehead, you could really see it.
It was very obvious.
The visible part of the head.
Very obvious.
I know, but I have a very big dent,
but it's just covered with hair.
But you can't see it.
That's true, that's why you can never shave your head.
Now imagine if you had that in your forehead.
Well, the reason he had it is because he got bit
by a brown recluse spider.
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
When he was like a teenager
and it like fucked up his skull shape.
Oh my God.
And he was like fine.
He like lived obviously,
but it was a little touch and go there for a moment for him.
And he has to see it every day when he looks in the mirror.
Big old dent in the forehead.
Can you imagine?
No.
The other story is that when I was little, we had ants in my house all the time.
They would come from everywhere.
They would come out of the rug.
They were fucking all over the place.
And sometimes they would get on me. And I remember there was a period of time
where I would take piano lessons.
And sometimes I would stop playing the piano and go,
ugh, ugh, and I'd be like, oh, sorry, I have ants in my house.
And my piano teacher, like, never let it go.
You never saw an ant.
No, she, like, thought it was the funniest shit
she'd ever seen in her life.
And she would bring it because she, like, she was also, she lived in our was the funniest shit she'd ever seen in her life.
She lived in our small towns.
We would see her around and she just told that story so many times to other people where
I was like, okay, it's not funny.
It's not funny.
I am worried I have ants on me sometimes because there are too many ants in my house.
But that feeling of just being like, oh, I feel them on me.
It's horrible.
Well, yeah. And it's like most spider, like I feel them on me. Oh, it's horrible. Well, yeah.
And it's like most spider rays, I think are totally like this
is totally chill.
You know, I mean, I didn't like it, but you know, it's fine.
But yeah, sometimes they're like awful.
And I was at least comforted by the fact that I was like,
I think a lot of times why a spider bite gets bad
is because you don't know you were bit by a spider.
So you don't know that you should like go
and be like, get this, this could be a poisonous spider bite. I gotta go check it out. So at least I was like, well,
I know exactly what happened. I know where it happened and I'm going to look at this
bite every fucking 20 minutes for the next three days to make sure that it's not horrifying
situation.
So scary. Oh my God.
Getting itchy. I know it's fucking God. Awful. I'm getting itchy. I know. It's fucking awful.
Me too.
I'm so sorry that that happened to you.
Thank you.
I was really like, normally I don't have anything real to say here.
I was really woe is me-ing about the fact that I was like,
something scary really did happen to me.
I have something to say.
Anyway, it's fine. I have something to say.
Anyway, it's fine.
I'll be okay.
But I hope it never happens again for the rest of my life.
I hope so too.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
Thank you.
Thoughts and prayers.
Welcome.
Thoughts and prayers.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Anything scary happen to you guys this week?
Henley?
Well, did I tell you guys about Salus' bug bites?
Did I tell you this already?
You told me that he was starting to get mosquito bites
and that now you're joining the army against mosquitoes
calling for their immediate extinction level event.
Last week on like Thursday, he woke up,
I got him out of bed, I looked at his face
and I was like, you developed acne overnight?
Like what is going on?
And he had like huge welts on his cheeks.
And then like I lifted up his hair and he had,
it looked like he'd like slammed his forehead into something
and gotten like a huge goose egg on his forehead.
Oh my God.
And then also his earlobe was like super swollen.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Like, ah, and so I took pictures of them.
It's crazy how often parenting is just being like,
I'm freaking out and I can't let you know,
but you are, something's wrong with you.
Well, the only thing that was reassuring was that just like the fingernails falling off,
Silas seemed deeply unfazed.
I was like, do they hurt?
Do they itch?
Like, is there what's going on?
And he was basically just like, no, like, get away from me.
Like, stop touching me.
Stop looking at me.
Like, leave me alone.
And so I was like, okay, seems deeply unbothered.
I took pictures of them and sent them to his doctor.
His doctor was like, they're mosquito bites.
It's fine.
And so, but I had to tell his teachers, I was like, they're mosquito bites, it's fine. And so, but I had to tell his teachers,
I was like, they're mosquito bites, he's okay.
And they were like, okay, like, ugh.
Cause he looked, it only lasted for a day.
And by the next day they had gone down significantly.
And then by the day after that,
they were just like completely gone.
But it was a mosquito like feasted on him.
Like all over his face.
The face is so fucking rude.
God, it's so.
Also it's just like the forehead one was nuts.
It literally looked like he had like slammed his forehead
into something.
I also, mosquito bites get huge on me.
They're like golf ball sized.
Yes. Yeah.
I'd never seen that before.
I was like, this is crazy.
Well you're new to this world, Henry.
I know. You are immune to their. Welcome to hell. I was like, this is crazy. Well, you're new to this world, aren't you? Yeah, you are immune to their.
Welcome to hell.
It is hell, it is hell.
Can you believe they didn't bother him though?
He seemed like totally fine.
Toddlers are wild.
I don't understand.
I guess he doesn't have,
he doesn't have feeling in his face yet
that he'll develop that later.
Yeah, that comes with time.
Oh, I hate mosquitoes.
I do too anyway. I've joined the army on behalf of my son.
I'm joining and I'm all about trying to eliminate them.
Also, there are signs all over.
The other reason I was worried is there are signs all over Greenwich, Connecticut saying that they have found West Nile virus in mosquitoes.
Those signs are here all the time as well.
It's like, okay, well.
Mosquitoes are the deadliest animals on the planet.
They kill more people than any other animal.
So I've said it once, I'll say it again,
get them out of here.
Just get them out of here.
Ew, get them out of here.
I hate them.
I hate them.
Or just like make them not able to bite.
Just like crisper them into not being a danger
and a nuisance.
Ugh, I hate them.
Um, Sammy, what about you?
Well, I flew up to San Francisco this weekend.
First of all, there was an earthquake while I was at LAX,
which was pretty crazy.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, freaky.
Everyone's alarms started going off. I did feel it.
I didn't feel it, but I was making coffee.
It was in the morning, and I was standing in front
of our mug tree and the mugs started going like,
and I looked at it and I was like, that's weird.
Big breeze or maybe anything,
but I was standing right there and didn't feel anything.
But then you texted the little like shaky head emotion.
I was like, oh, it was an earthquake.
Okay.
But that's how I.
And I feel like LAX or probably most airports, not the worst place to be for an earthquake,
feels like it's probably pretty earthquake safe in there.
Not a lot that can fall on you necessarily.
Yeah.
Anyways, I was going to visit some friends who both have children that just turned one.
And this is going to be an annoying one for all you parents
out there, including our sweet Henley.
You guys, it's so crazy.
I just spent less than 48 hours with children nonstop and I was like, I'm so exhausted.
It's fucking exhausting.
It's nonstop.
It's crazy.
It's literally nonstop.
It's so much walking.
It's so much talking to people that you don't know and making conversations with babies,
which is like, you don't have to be smart or anything, but it's like acting a little
bit.
You're putting on a little show most of the time.
I love these babies too.
These are two of my favorite babies that I was hanging with.
And they're so funny and so cute and like such good,
happy, like easy babies.
And it's just, it doesn't matter.
Cause you gotta like, you gotta walk them
or you have to constantly be entertaining them,
which Henley, I know that you know this
and I know most people know this,
but I don't have children
and I don't have any nieces
or nephews. So it's not often that I'll spend longer than a few hours with a kid and to
be with a kid for 48 hours straight, which even that, she had two of her best night's
sleep ever while I was there. So I didn't even get like that half of the experience. But the waking
hours are hard enough. Jesus Christ, you parents out there, God bless you.
The thing that's tough about it is that it's high stakes boredom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like really active boredom.
It's super active boredom. And that's what's hard about it. And like I'm edging into territory of it being less boring with Silas being three.
Yeah, I think the earlier years seem like they'd be a little more boring.
Yeah.
So like it's one thing when they're like super squishy and you can just kind of like
put them anywhere and like walk around and like they can sit there when you're doing
laundry and like whatever.
But then there's this period of time between like eight months where they're like so cute.
And I fucking love May.
May is like the cutest fucking thing.
When I was putting her down for a nap, I was just like, God, I just want to fucking cute.
I don't know what to do with you.
Oh, my head's going to pop off.
But she's like, you know, trying to get to the electrical sockets, trying to like knock
shit down, like wants the water bottle, wants like. And so you can't you have to have all your attention on them.
And they have like such specific needs and requests that are so weird. It's like, why
do you want this thing? But if you don't get it, you're gonna freak the fuck out.
100%
I remember visiting once my sister and her firstborn, Wesley, I have a pop socket on
the back of my phone and Wesley like, and I leave it up a lot
cause I grab my phone.
And every time Wesley would see the pop socket up
on my phone, they would be like, I want it down.
And I'd be like, right, sorry.
Like, and it'd be like, no.
And it was like, I had to like constantly pay attention
to like what the pop socket on my fucking phone was doing.
And it's like things like that where it's just like,
it's just like, I just want to relax.
It's a perfect example.
And she, you know, we heard the day cool experience
with May like she's obsessed with tops,
especially medicine tops.
And so she just wants opening things, medicine tops
all the time.
And I'm just like, why you little freak?
What is that?
I just want it.
And then I take it away from her
and she turns crimson red, vibrates with anger,
screams at the top of her lungs, puts her hands out,
like she's gonna like,
summon all the energy in the world.
And I'm like, okay, just take it, like take it back then.
Okay, like if you OD on aspirin, that's my fault, I guess.
Like...
You little fucking terrorists, like Jesus. Ah, you little fucking terrorists. Jesus.
Anyway, so there's a period between eight months
and two and a half years, which is like, you know,
I just feel like it gets easier as they get older
because you can actually play with them.
You can do a puzzle, you can build Legos,
you can actually interact with them more.
Yeah, I think the thing that was making me feel craziest was how many, how often you
have the same conversation over and over with, and seeing other parents with strollers. It
felt like Stepford Wives-y shit. I'm like, oh, this is like, we're all just doing this,
huh?
Because it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It makes you feel so, I don't know the word for it,
but I was just like, what?
Like conforming?
You're conforming.
Yes, yes, it's like conforming.
It's like everyone-
Performing is a really good word too.
It's like you become like-
A mother.
The lady with the kid.
Yeah.
A mother.
It's like everyone has the same snacks for their kids
and everyone's like, oh, do you go to this park?
Yes, we go to that park.
Oh, that park's a lot of fun.
And like, oh, I have this brand of stroller too.
And I'm just like, my God.
No, you can see why it's been really hard
for me to make mom friends.
Because like, you need to break through that.
Yeah.
Like a lot of making mom friends is just that conversation.
And if you can't break through it,
it's like the most boring conversation
you can possibly have.
Like I hate it.
When you haven't learned a single thing
about each other as people.
Right, and you like are trying to.
There are a lot of people I've met
who I'm like trying to break through
and they're like, I don't have anything else to give you.
Let's keep talking about strollers.
Yeah.
It's tough.
Yeah. It's tough.
Parenthood's scary.
No wonder they make a lot of horror movies about it.
No freaking wonder, man.
I mean, I really do.
Every single one, it seems.
It's also just, it is so, it blows my fucking mind.
The more aware I become of what parenting is like,
again, only from a very limited outside perspective.
I'm just like, it is, I think the actual craziest part of being alive,
that it is an expectation that everybody does this.
Yeah. Oh, 100%.
It is so fucking crazy. And I get it. It's the only way we all continue to exist.
But it is so crazy to be like, well, everybody should do this, obviously.
Yeah. This unhinged experience that is impossible.
We're all going to do it though, right?
Wild. Really wild.
I don't know, man. Yeah. There's no, there are no take backs. I mean, once you do it,, right? Wild, really wild. I don't know, man.
Yeah, there's no take backs.
I mean, once you do it, it's like jumping off the cliff.
There's no fucking take backs.
You've jumped off the cliff.
Some people should do it because they want to do it,
but good God, everyone, everyone should not.
Yeah, it's not for everyone.
There are a lot of bad parents out there.
I went to bed at 8 p.m. on Saturday night.
Yeah. And it felt great at 8 p.m. on Saturday night. Yeah, sounds good.
And it was, it felt great because I was so tired.
I had one cocktail after walking around all day long
and talking to people that I didn't know,
was just like, I need to go to sleep right now.
Guess when you can't do that, if you're actually a parent.
Yeah, I mean, luckily the baby, we all went to sleep
right after the baby went to sleep, which was at eight.
So all of us just took advantage of that 8 p.m. bedtime. Thank God. Yeah, I mean, luckily the baby, we all went to sleep right after the baby went to sleep, which was at eight.
So all of us just took advantage of that 8pm bedtime.
Thank God.
But yeah, if I didn't have to like, keep a monitor next to my bed in case she woke up
in the middle of the night, which she didn't thankfully, but yeah, wow, it's really, really
scary stuff.
And yeah, just amazed that y'all are doing it out there. You're so strong.
You are all so strong.
Keep it up y'all.
Just to give a plug for it, it is great. And it is probably the best thing I've ever done.
Yeah.
That's what you want to hear.
They always say that.
I know. I know.
They don't always.
That's true.
They don't always. That's true. They don't always.
That's true.
But they mostly do and that's great.
Also some people might say it, they might not mean it.
I mean it.
They might say it, they might not mean it.
And you mean it.
And so when Henley says it, you can trust it.
And that's really great.
I mean, thank God, thank fucking God.
Can you imagine if it weren't the best thing
you'd ever done?
Oh, that would suck.
If it weren't the best thing you'd ever done,
it'd be the worst thing you'd ever done.
And that's the thing, those are the stakes. There is literally no in between. It is either the best thing you'd ever done, it'd be the worst thing you'd ever done. And that's the thing, those are the stakes.
There is literally no in between.
It is either the best thing you ever did
or the worst thing you ever did.
Do you think there's anyone out there who's like,
yeah, it's fine?
Probably, but I don't know.
I can't imagine how.
That person probably doesn't have like a big range
of feelings in general.
Yeah, true.
Ooh, Lordy. Yeah, I think that that's one thing about parenting is it unlocks feelings that you
didn't have before on either end of the spectrum.
So it just widens that old spectrum right up.
Yeah, I'm good with the width of mine.
Yeah, that's good.
Feels like the appropriate width for my current desires.
I loved hanging with these kids though.
I will say they're great.
It's not that they're not great.
It's just that they're 24-7 and that's a lot of the time, if
not all of it.
Once you have them too, it's like, well, this, this, it's
their show now.
Like you, you made them exist.
That's on you.
So that it's about them.
And that's like, that's,
cause they're a baby, they're a child, you know?
You're a grown up.
So suck it up, suck it the fuck up
and raise the person that you created.
Really crazy stuff.
Really, really crazy.
Yeah. Really crazy stuff crazy. Yeah, yeah.
Really crazy stuff you guys.
And also I can understand Henley why you have
just a constant stream of scary things
to talk about regarding children because it doesn't stop.
It does not stop.
It doesn't stop, no it doesn't.
And I'm pretty sure it's just gonna get more severe
and scarier as they get older
because the stakes seem to get higher
and the problems become less physical
and more psychological and...
We all know that's when shit gets really scary.
That's when things get really tough.
They are cute and good though.
You got some cute good ones.
I know, you can really get a dud in there
and I did not so...
No duds, no duds here.
No duds here, Silas and May are.
And we would tell you.
I know you would, of course you would.
Of course we have that kind of brutal honesty
with each other.
Yeah, yeah.
Hate to tell you, but your kid's a dud.
And you want me to be honest with you, right?
I'm just being honest.
Oh my God, that was a phase William went through
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So this week's movie I watched, Sleepy Hollow,
came out in 1999, directed by Tim Burton.
1999, 1999.
Wow, we got it added to the list.
I know, the year.
What a year, my God.
The year, I had the same thought.
Obviously this is the best one.
Move over the matrix. Move over all the other ones. Obviously this is the best one. Move over the matrix.
Move over all the other ones.
Get out of here Titanic.
Titanic's 96, Magnolia.
Oh my God, you're right, Magnolia, Magnolia, Magnolia.
Eyes Wide Shut.
Eyes Wide Shut, Galaxy Quest.
Galaxy Quest.
That's one of my dad's favorite movies.
One of my favorites as well, I love it a lot.
It's not a joke, I listed it for real.
That's the only thing you and my dad have in common.
Yeah, and that we love you.
Oh yeah, oh that's sweet.
Written by Kevin Yeager and Andrew Kevin Walker,
it's based on Washington Irving's story,
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow.
And also I just feel like it's important to know
that it's executive produced by Francis Ford Coppola.
Interesting. Important.
It's starring Johnny Depp, Christina Ricci, Christopher Walken, Miranda Richardson, and
then a bunch of actors that I need to go through in detail with you.
I guess we can do it now.
I just, there's, there are one, two, three, four, there are five old men in this film that you will know who they are,
but you will not know why you know who they are.
I can recall this, yes.
And it's like, so I had to do like a deep dive.
Is there like a Dumbledore in there?
There's a Dumbledore.
There's, I can just go through it.
Yeah, yeah, tell us, I wanna know.
There's Michael Gambone.
That's Dumbledore. Dumbledore.
There's Jeffrey Jones who played Ed Rooney
in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Okay.
That guy, do you remember him?
No.
Okay, he's in other stuff.
You would recognize him if you saw him.
Okay.
Richard Griffiths, also in Harry Potter.
In Harry Potter.
Please, Vernon Dursley.
Vernon.
Yeah, please.
Oh, he's so good.
Uncle Dursley, yes.
Then there's Ian McDermid,
who was the Sith Lord in Star Wars.
He was in like six Star Wars movies.
Emperor Palpatine.
I don't know who this is.
I mean, I kind of like recognized him,
but you know, he's a Star Wars guy.
And then there's Michael Goh,
who played Alfred the but Butler in all the original
Batman movies, the 1989, 1992, 1995 and 1997. So these are all men who were born in like
between 1915 and 1945. Like that's how old they are, you know?
Okay, I do need to just I thought that this was true, but I wanted to confirm before I
said, I'm just going to put it out there so that people know that we put it out there and that we know it,
which is that Jeffrey Jones from Ferris Bueller,
stay off, he was convicted of having child pornography.
So just so-
Oh Jesus, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, yikes.
Oh, gross.
Yeah, it's not good.
But-
Gross.
You know, that is a thing.
Wow.
That's, you know, so gross.
We're not going to speak well of him, but the rest of them, I think, are good on that
front.
Hopefully.
I mean, with these old dudes, you never fucking know.
You never fucking know, but you know.
Okay.
Have you guys seen this movie?
I have.
Yes, but only once, I think,
and I don't remember really anything.
I have seen it.
It's a perfect, perfect, perfect Halloween movie.
It's exact, I wish there were more movies
exactly like this, which is to say moody and spooky,
and a little bit scary, but it's really just like ambiance.
It's Halloweeny, gothic, spooky ambiance, which is like, that is what I want out of
Halloween.
Joel really loves this movie.
And so yes, I have seen it.
It's a great fucking time.
It's so good.
It's a great fucking time. It's so good. It's great I I saw it I think when I was too young my sister rented it and we watched at home and I think I saw it when I was like
11 maybe and I remember being I'd be too young very scared of it
And then I just want you guys to know that I did, I was in a production of Sleepy Hollow
when I was in the seventh grade.
Yeah, did you play like a tree?
No.
Or am I just only thinking about when you played Nana?
No, you're thinking about when I played Nana.
I played like a townsperson who had one line
and I was desperately trying to find the script
so I could remember what the line was.
Oh, you wouldn't believe it, but I couldn't find it.
Oh no.
And anyway, that's my only connection to Sleepy Hollow,
those two little guys.
Great.
Okay, some trivia.
Let's hear it, please.
All right, so the horse that Johnny Depp rides
provided a lot of amusement for the cast and crew
because it was extremely flatulent.
So it farted a lot during the production.
Very unprofessional.
Yeah.
And then when Johnny Depp found out that the horse was going to be put down.
Because it was too farty?
I doubt that's why, but I don't know. And he adopted it instead of having it put down.
A good man and only, he's only good.
Well, that settles that.
That settles that.
Also, what the fuck sort of circumstances was it
that it's like, well, the horse has to be put down,
but clearly not for medical reasons
because he was able to be adopted?
I know, maybe Johnny Depp wrote this in the IMDB.
I am good. Good man, Johnny Depp wrote this in the IMDB. I am good.
Good man, Johnny Depp saves farty horse.
The headline.
He'll be like, it's so subtle, they won't know it's me.
And then also Johnny Depp is almost 20 years older
than Christina Ricci.
And she's-
Yes, that part feels weird.
Yeah, so she plays his love interest in this.
And it says-
Is she above 27?
Probably not.
No, not by a long shot.
I just looked it up to confirm because-
Because we know that nobody can date until they're 27.
When I watched this, I was like, whoa, what?
And then I did, and then to be fair,
Johnny Depp, sorry, is really hot.
Oh, he's, it's shocking. I've forgotten that he was- It's fair, Johnny Depp, sorry, is really hot. Oh, he's, it's shocking.
I've forgotten that he was good.
It's like Pete Johnny Depp, he's so gorgeous.
He was so gorgeous when he was young.
I literally forgot he was good looking.
Oh, I know, right?
I forgot.
But he was, he was really stunning.
But she was 19.
Ooh.
Oh, she was 19, back.
That is pretty young, I gotta say.
And he's like, he was like close to 40? Yeah. Close to 40.
Yeah, close to 40.
He was like 37 or something.
Yeah, 36, 37.
And again, like stunning.
But I have to say it's pretty chaste.
Like there's nothing they don't actually.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know, a period piece somewhat.
That's true.
But the weird thing is that he had known her
since she was nine years old
because they first met on the set of Mermaids
as Depp was dating Winona Ryder at the time.
That's the thing about dating someone
or being with someone much younger than you
is that there was a time when they were a child
and you were a fully formed adult.
Yeah, you can't move past that one.
No.
And it's better and it's more okay
when everyone is a fully, fully grown adult,
but when one of them is 19.
Still pretty young.
Yeah.
They are both great in this movie
and Christina Ricci is really, really good in it,
but it's a noticeable age gap. It is, but it's also, it's not crazy. It's not,
we've seen bigger ones. Like, it's not as like jarring. It was jarring for me to read this
afterwards and be like, holy shit, it was that wide? Like that is pretty big. Christina Ricci
revealed on the Rosie O'Donnell show that Christopher Walken was very shy and very quiet
during filming. And so the other cast
members had a competition over who could get him to say the most words and Miranda Richardson
won by making him answer lots of questions. Wow. Oh, by asking him by talking to him.
How do we get him to say? She figured it out. She figured it out. And then just the only other thing is that the
set, I mean, it's like what you said, Emily, the one, the thing that makes this movie so
great is how it looks. Emily just choked because she's so excited about the set. Yeah. And
so the crew of the movie built the small town of Sleepy Hollow on a back lot in
England. It took three months for them to build. At the time of filming, it was the largest set
built in England ever. And it was complete with rooms, floors, stairs. They just built the whole
dang thing and it looks really good. You can tell. It looks really cool. It looks very good.
And then there's a whole, a lot of it takes place in the woods, obviously.
And the Western wood was built on a sound stage, so everything, including the weather
and light, could be controlled.
And it apparently turned into like a real wood by the end because so many birds and
bugs had infested it.
So lovely.
And yeah, that's it for trivia.
Great.
I guess should we watch the trailer?
I hadn't really thought about that actually.
Let's watch it at the end.
I feel like I know the vibe.
I know what it looks like.
I can picture it.
So we will watch it after the recap.
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Perfect.
Amazing.
Oh, I should mention that Danny Elfman does the music.
So it's like very orchestra heavy.
It's a lot of strings.
It's a lot of,
ooh, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
But he's bad too though, right?
What does he do?
Oh, is he? God damn it.
There's a lot of bad guys in this one.
It's just, there's just a lot of bad guys.
He did something bad.
Hold on.
The, the like amount of storage space in my brain
that's just dedicated to men who've done bad things is like.
You just open it up and just flip through.
It's really kind of a lot.
So many.
Oh, sexual assault.
Jesus.
Yeah, so just, you know.
All right, well, that's bad.
Apparently he composed things naked
with his female protégé
in the room with him.
Like he insisted on being naked while he composed.
Really cool.
Oh boy.
Yes.
Really cool.
I just, again, you know, they're gonna...
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Okay, so we got some orchestral music
and it opens on some B roll of a person scratching away
at the final will and testament of Van Garrett.
We just see the quill and the ink.
We see a melted wax seal.
We see this man with his, you know,
frilly long lace sleeves, putting it into a leather
satchel and heading out into the woods into a carriage. It's, you know, dark, it's misty,
they're cornfields, it's thunder, it's lightning. And he's rushing through the cornfields at night
in this carriage with these horses and all of a sudden, sound starts to go quiet, it gets quieter
and quieter and he looks out and we pass by a spooky scarecrow with a big spooky jack-o'-lantern
head and big spooky arms. And seriously you see scarecrows so much in this film. I guess
it's just like…
All those cornfields.
Yeah and also it's like, you know, a head, it's a nod towards a head, but it's just like... All those cornfields. Yeah. And also it's like, you know, a head, it's a nod towards a head, but it's just there
for ambiance, I think.
Anyway, so then you hear a horse winning, you hear the scrape of a sword, and then you
see like a figure go by fast and something is lopped off.
What do you think it is?
He looks out of the carriage.
He looks at the driver.
The driver is still holding the reins to the horses,
but he no longer has a head.
Oh my God.
So clearly terrified.
This man rushes out of the carriage,
falls out of the carriage,
falls into the cornfield,
rushes through the cornfield.
Before you know it,
he's face to face with this scary scarecrow.
And he looks at it terrified.
You hear the horse again.
You hear the metal of the sword.
He turns around and then you just see blood spurt
all over the pumpkin head.
Ooh.
His head has been absolutely lobbed off.
Lobbed off, absolutely lobbed.
Absolutely lobbed.
His head has been absolutely lobbed off.
Lobbed into oblivion.
That is not the first time.
Lobbed it.
Not the last time you're gonna hear me say that.
I'm gonna say that a lot.
Lot of lobbing.
So we cut to a dark cityscape.
You don't see the sun once in this film.
Like it is, even during the daytime, it is dark and misty.
Don't try to watch this film in a brightly lit room.
You will not see a thing.
You will not see a frame of the film.
How did it go wait for you today?
Didn't you watch it this morning?
I did.
I did watch it this morning, but I had my blinds down
and I had my brightness all the way up. Perfect. What's the weather like in Connecticut in this morning? I did, I did watch it this morning, but I had my blinds down, and I had my brightness all the way up.
Perfect.
What's the weather like in Connecticut in this moment?
It is so sunny,
but I'm also watching it on my computer,
which is fairly new.
And so I'm like this close to,
I'm like my face is like six inches away from my computer.
Good for you.
So it's New York, it's 1799.
We got cobble streets,
we got sewage running through the
streets and we see Johnny Depp, he's by the river, he's ringing a bell and he's discovered
a dead body that's washed up.
This is clearly a common thing that happens.
He doesn't seem fazed by it at all.
He's basically just like, got a body over here.
He's a constable, so a cop.
This is an anachronism.
The New York City Police Department
wasn't founded until 1844.
So, I mean, I wish that they could have just gotten that right.
Yeah, that really, the whole thing about that whole movie.
Yeah, it's going to take me out of it for sure.
It was really hard for me to pay attention after that.
But, and this is, yes, this is when we first get a full look at Johnny Depp.
This is Ichabod Crane.
He is looking so young.
Just again, I was shocked at how youthful and beautiful his face was a mere 25 years ago.
Man, age can ravage you and,age you and choices can also ravage a person
as well. So they cart the dead body back to the police station, the head constable is
like, burn it, burn the body. And Ichabod Crane is saying, but we don't know the cause
of death. I have to examine the body.
And the man is like, cutting up the body is sacrilegious. We're not heathens. Everything
around them is telling you they are heathens. They're throwing people into pits. They're
putting people into torture devices. This is Tim Burton. It's all like Tim Burton camp
horror. You know, like it's not actually scary. It's all goofy.
And I was also reminded that like Johnny Depp
is so fucking goofy.
Like I'd kind of forgotten that.
Obviously that's a key part of who he is.
But this character, I wanted to have time
to do more of a deep dive into this,
but this character, Edward Scissorhands, Willy Wonka, are all so similar.
They have like, it's almost like they have the same props
and the same costumes.
Like, it's like the same goofy outfits
and the same goofy glasses and like just this weird goofiness.
Yeah.
So he, and one of the main things about his character
is that he is squeamish.
So he's a little, he wants to head straight into the danger,
but he's also a little nauseated by it,
a little squeamish, scared.
So we cut to Ichabod Crane in a courtroom
and he's fighting with a judge
to use updated scientific techniques to solve murders.
And this is kind of like the central axis of the
film. He wants to use science, he wants to use logic, he wants to use reason to uncover
the truth. And the judge is sick of hearing this. He wants to just do it how they've always
done it, which is, I guess, like, I don't know, just kind of what they think. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Just kind of go with their guts. Yeah, exactly.
Just like guessing works for us.
And he kind of banishes him to Sleepy Hollow.
He says there have been three people who have been beheaded there in the last two weeks,
each with their head lopped off clean as dandelion heads.
Those are his words.
And he says, he says, take these experimentations of yours to Sleepy Hollow.
It is now you who is put to the test.
So he's basically like, use these new techniques to solve these murders.
Is this movie a musical at all?
No, but it was also giving Sweeney Todd.
It's like Sweeney Todd.
Yeah.
I mean, I like associate, they blend together for me.
Yeah.
Is Sweeney Todd also Tim Burton?
It is, right?
I think so.
I think so.
It's very similar.
It's almost like Johnny Depp was typecast.
Do you know what I mean?
Or did he do that to himself on purpose?
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what he's good at.
Interval with.
And yeah, like Jack Sparrow and yeah, that's his thing.
Yeah.
He was very silly in a movie called Tusk, Lest We Forget.
Oh, he was in that?
I didn't realize that he was in that, I forgot.
Yeah, he was the like French Canadian inspector.
Yeah.
Oh, I hate that movie.
Okay, so now we get the opening credits.
Sorry, we're only at the opening credits.
So we get a carriage ride. Sorry, we're only at the opening credits. So we got a carriage
ride, his long carriage ride. It's a two day long carriage ride up to Sleepy Hollow. I live kind of
close to Sleepy Hollow now. I've been there a few times. It's a very normal town. Yeah, it's a real
place. This is like Nantucket again, that I just assumed it was a fictional place. And he's like,
Nantucket was a fictional place. I love that. I guess Sleepy Hollow is real. I love So Nantucket was a fictional place. I loved that. That is so funny. I guess Sleepy Hollow is real.
I love that Nantucket and Sleepy Hollow exist in the same way.
Yeah, they do.
They're like fake places.
Two fake places.
They're just two fake places.
Also, Henley, oh my God, I need to know your thoughts about The Perfect Couple.
Have you read that one?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I read it.
You read them all.
You better believe I've watched some of the series,
wanted it to be better. It's so bad.
It is unhinged badness.
It is so bad.
So bad. Moving on.
Ugh, like why can't Netflix just like figure it out?
Like why can't they just make one good TV show?
Just make one good one.
They have. They've made two good ones and they canceled one.
I don't want to put blame on Nicole Kidman, but she's made quite a few bad TV shows lately.
She has made some bad TV shows.
Well, we know how I feel about Nicole Kidman, but we don't need to get into that. So yeah,
here we see Johnny Depp, you know, he's really hamming it up. He jumps when he hears a wolf
howl. His eyes go wide when the carriage goes over a large bump. He's like, he's a city
boy. He's scared. He's scared. He doesn't know where he's going. Going to a fictional
town named Sleepy Hollow. What horrors will await? All right, he arrives. We're in this
beautiful back lot. So dark. Misty, he arrives. We're in this beautiful back lot.
So dark.
Misty, he walks into town.
It's completely deserted.
It's one of the main street church at the end of the road.
The shutters are closing at every house he passes by.
People are not wanting to talk to him.
They're scared.
He goes to this big fancy house at the top of the hill,
and he knocks.
And then you kind of notice that there are two people hardcore going at it,
like in the shadows right next to the door, but you can't see who they are.
Going at it like fucking?
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, okay.
Hardcore going at it.
I was like, what?
Yeah, it could have been fucking or fighting.
Are they fighting?
Fucking or fighting?
That's true.
That's true. that's true.
They're making out at a minimum.
But it's very dark, so it's hard to tell what's going on.
You don't know who they are.
Then the door opens and you walk in, the vibe completely changes.
It's a very lively, happy party gathering.
There's candles lit everywhere.
There's music.
People are fiddling.
So many fiddlers, carved pumpkins,
and there's a young blindfolded woman
with long curly blonde hair playfully running around
playing a game called Picket Witch.
Picket Witch, Picket Witch who has a kiss
for the Picket Witch and she stops and she's blindfolded
but she puts her hands on Johnny Depp's face
and she says like, who are you or something?
I don't know. And then she kisses him.
And then she takes the blindfold off and it's Christina Ricci.
She's playing a character named Katrina Van Tassel.
She's the daughter of the man who owns this house,
Baltis, the Dumbledore, played by Michael Gambone.
Anyway, so she takes off her blindfold,
they look at each other, sparks fly, they like each other.
Enter Katrina's father, Baltus,
and her stepmother, who's played by Miranda Richardson.
And I don't think she really has a name, by the way, her stepmother.
I think she's like Lady Van Tassel, essentially,
but they never even call her that.
She's just a woman.
They don't really ever call a name.
Um, so then Ichabod Crane tells them that he's there
to investigate the murders, and they welcome him
and invite him to stay in the house.
So he goes upstairs, he gets settled into his room.
There's a maid there named Sarah who says,
thank God you're here, like everyone's so scared.
And he then goes downstairs and meets with the men
of the town.
I have to say, I'm gonna do my best with this,
but the men of the town are these old men
that I honestly can't tell apart.
Like I, the whole movie, I was like, who's who?
One of them's a doctor, one of them's a lawyer.
They're also wearing like funny wigs too, right?
They're all wearing funny wigs.
And they're also changing their wigs
and they're changing their hats.
They're sometimes they're wearing furry hats,
sometimes they're wearing their hats with feathers.
Like the hats are changing.
How are you meant to tell them apart?
And so all you need to know is there's like a little gaggle of fancy men who kind of run
the town.
And yeah, one's a reverend, one's a lawyer, one's a notary, one is a doctor.
Just as important as all the other professions.
I was going to say, how do you sneak in there?
I guess the notary's in charge of paperwork.
Well, good luck getting anything certified without me.
And there's a reverend.
Sy, he goes in to meet with them, and he's basically like,
okay, there have been three people who have, you know,
Ichabod Crane is saying what he knows.
He's like, okay, there have been three people who have been murdered.
Peter Van Tassel, his son, the younger Van Tassel,
and then Widow Winship.
So it's two men, a father and a son, and a widow.
And he's, like, walking around, kind of laying out the facts
as he knows them, and...
The vibe is either they are super fucking guilty, this group,
or they're genuinely very scared.
I couldn't tell it
first what was going on.
They're just like shifty eyed.
They're all like, ooh, ooh, like dramatic looks, like wide eyes, like, oh, and the camera
angles are super weird. They're either really low or like really high. So it's like they're
like holding their little drinks and looking like scared. And anyway, so Iqbal asked the group, he says, is there, is anyone a suspect?
And they say, well, what do you,
like what else do you know about these murders?
And he says, I just know that they've been decapitated.
And then they tell him that the heads,
they haven't just been decapitated,
the heads are actually missing.
And then he says, oh, so the heads are missing.
And then they say, no, they've been taken.
And he says, taken.
And then they go, yes, they've been taken
by the headless horsemen.
And he's like, no, a person did this.
And they're like, no, you better sit down
because we're about to tell you some shit.
So Michael Gambone begins to tell this tale.
And I should say that Johnny Depp is holding
a little teacup for this.
So he begins his tale and you know,
it's like the camera panning into the fire.
Then we go back in time and he tells this story of a,
he calls it a Hessian mercenary,
which is incorrect. It should be Hessian mercenary, but they say Hessian throughout
the entire film. And for some reason, no one noticed that that was not how you're
supposed to pronounce it. So Hessian mercenary was sent over to just kill a
bunch of Americans during the Revolutionary War, I guess.
And he did it for the love of carnage.
He just loved his blood. He had bloodage. He just loved his blood, his blood lust.
He just loved to murder people.
You see images of this man on a huge horse
killing people with his sword.
And then you get a close up, it's Christopher Walken.
He's got his little teeth shaved down
into these little freaky nubs.
And so he's got these big old
nubby creepy teeth and then huge unblinking ice blue eyes. And he was feared until he
was finally killed in the woods. We get this image of him hiding from American soldiers.
And he comes across two small girls
who are in pink dresses in the middle of the snow
with like no coats on and no hats on.
And it's honestly like, darn.
And he looks at them and he says, shh.
And then someone takes his sword and lops his head off
in front of the two little girls.
You like watch it happen.
And so he's killed with his own sword, head removed, and lops his head off in front of the two little girls. You're like, watch it happen.
And so he's killed with his own sword,
head removed, buried in the Western Wood,
which is near Sleepy Hollow.
And this happened 20 years ago.
And since then, no man dares step foot in the Western Wood
because it is haunted by the headless horseman.
So I couldn't remember what happened in this movie.
And I was like, I really thought these guys are lying.
Like that felt like my instinct, but they really, I think they really believe it.
They really believe it. And they have a good reason to.
So anyway, so he finishes the story and, um,
Ikebag Crane is holding his little teacup and
it's going, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, because
he's so scared.
Oh my goodness.
He's so scared of the headless horseman.
And he tells them, no, I still don't believe it.
Like this is a man of flesh and blood who committed these murders and I'm going to use
my books and reason to figure it out.
And then they slam down a book
and they say, this is the only book you need. And it's obviously the Bible. And that's that for that
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Then there is a sentry stationed in front of the town watching the woods and he's watching
with his little gun scared and smoke comes out of the woods, puts out all the torches
so it's dark.
A herd of sheep runs by, a herd of deer run by,
all the birds stop chirping.
You hear the sound of a horse galloping.
And you can guess the sentry runs through the woods in fear.
We got the headless horseman going up behind him,
lops his head off.
Wow.
And just rolls right on through the woods.
He's dead.
The next morning, someone finds the body,
says, we've got another, we got another dead one.
Hey, we got another dead one.
Hey folks. Hey, we got another bad one.
Hey, folks.
And then we get some physical comedy with Johnny Depp trying to ride an unfamiliar horse, which is the farty horse that he then later adopted.
He has a hard time getting on it.
Anyway, Johnny Depp doing weird little physical comedy stuff.
So anyway, this, the sentry is the fourth victim.
This is Jonathan Maspeth and Iqbaad goes out into the woods
to examine the scene.
He's very squeamish, scared to look at the dead body.
A big, big old beetle crawls out of it.
It's pretty gross.
He has a fun scene of pretending to be the horseman
and he does like a lot of like fake horseman gallops,
which I honestly really enjoyed
and kind of want that to be a gif
so I can like see it more often.
It's probably out there, probably.
Just for you to be able to see it.
Exactly.
He has a little leather case that's full of all of his vials and inventions and contraptions.
So he opens it up and he sprinkles some powder everywhere.
It steams up and he's able to tell that the sword hit a certain way and did a certain
thing and then he puts on these kooky looking glasses that magnify his eyes really big.
And he's able to say that the wound was cauterized
but there was no blistering and no scorched flesh.
And all the old men are like,
the devil's power, it's the devil.
So then Jonathan Maspeth left behind a young son,
maybe 13, and we're at his funeral
and the son is looking very sad. He's an orphan
now. He doesn't have a, his mom is dead as well. And he offers to help Ichabod find the
murderer. And at first Ichabod is like, no, thanks. I don't need your help. But then he
agrees to have his help after one of the old men tells him that Jonathan Maspeth was not the
fourth victim, but actually the fifth victim. And he says there are four graves and five
victims. And Johnny Depp is like, what could that mean? What could that possibly mean?
And so he gets the young Maspeth to help him dig up the graves and inspect the bodies.
Including his dead father?
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah.
Seems pretty cruel.
Yeah, it's a pretty cruel world.
I think they're all living in.
1790s.
Doesn't seem too fun.
Tough time.
Yeah.
So what do you guys expect this means?
Pregnant.
So the widow Winship was pregnant
and we discover this after Ichabod Crane performs
maybe his first autopsy he's ever done before.
We know it's his first because-
He's going, huh, huh.
Yeah, like literally,, like, actually, actually.
He, like, does, like, one little, like, cut into her
and it, like, spurts blood all over his face
and he's like, bah!
And then the next scene is him, like, walking out of the building
covered head to toe in blood.
Yeah, so he's, like, probably not...
He probably didn't do it right.
It's like, probably not, he probably didn't do it right. It's like, it's honestly, a lot of it's just kind of played for laughs.
Like it's not, it's not too scary.
And so he goes out and he announces to everyone who's been waiting
to see what he would discover that she was with child.
They never use the word pregnant.
I don't know when people like started saying pregnant,
but that is a word that is not used in this film.
That night, there's a little fake, little fake out scare
where he's chased through the forest by a headless man holding a pumpkin,
but it's just some townspeople playing a prank.
A hilarious prank.
Having a laugh and it's no big deal.
But it scares him so much
that he does his first fainting episode.
And Johnny Depp faints, I think, five times in this film.
So here we go.
And we get flashbacks of him as a young boy.
So when he was four years old, he's with his mother.
And you better believe this is when I was like,
I hate this film.
I really like, I really do like this film, but this whole mother thing just pisses me off
because the mom is so weirdly sexy.
She's wearing like, you can see almost all of her boobs.
Her boobs are just so out and she's not like maternal.
She's like sexy.
She's like sexy.
She's like a sexy mom.
Wow, Henley thinks there's only one way to be a mom.
Okay, that is so, that is.
No, that's exactly what you said.
This is mother.
Moms aren't allowed to be sexy.
This is motherhood.
That's what Henley believes.
This is motherhood through the male gaze
in a way that I don't appreciate,
in a way that really pisses me off.
No, I can, I remember being like, it's like he's horny for his mom. Yeah, one. Is like the way that it's.
100%. 100%. And she's like horny for him too. Like that's, she's like, she's like, come to me.
Anyway, it's, he's having these flashbacks of his beautiful mother and her huge, huge boobs.
And he clearly loves her very much.
And then her dad, or his dad, is very scary and evil.
But before we can see more of what this is, he wakes up.
And by now, he's back in the Van Tassel's house.
And he goes downstairs and he finds Katrina,
Christina Ricci. She's
reading by the fire. They start talking, they're bonding. She tells them about how her mother
died two years ago and the nurse who cared for her is now her stepmother. And we get
some backstory of the town. The Van Garrets were the richest family in town and maybe
founded the town. And they gave her father some land when they
moved here when she was still a baby. And they grew up very poor, but her father worked
his way up and was as now very successful. And then she, Christina Ricci gives him a
book as a present that was her mother's and it's a collection of spells. So, he's like, you believe in these things?
And she's like, you don't?
And then she says to keep it near his heart to protect him.
Hmm.
So, then they go to visit the cottage
that Katrina grew up in.
It's a very tiny cottage, one room,
and it's been burned down.
And the only thing that's left standing is the fireplace.
And there is an iron archer, a man with a bow and arrow,
engraved in the back of it.
And also in this scene, she notices that Ichabod has strange scars
all over his hands, all over his palms.
And he says he doesn't know how he got them,
but he's had them for as long as he remembers.
Well, because he used to have scissor hands, probably.
That's probably what it is. I think all these movies are connected.
There's Sweeney Todd's in here.
It's the same universe.
They're in the same universe.
So, their relationship is growing.
They're looking at each other longingly.
They're feeling feelings for each other.
That night, Ichabod catches Magistrate Phillips. This is Vernon Dursley as he is trying to leave town. So he's seen through the window that he's gotten in a fight with the other men,
and he's taking his horse and it looks like he's trying to leave. And he stops him and he says,
where are you going? why are you leaving?
He asks him, this is the same person
who told him that there's a fifth victim.
So he says, how did you know that Widow Winship
was with Childe?
And he says that she came to him
to ask how she could protect the rights of her Childe
if the father wasn't in the picture.
And he seems to know who the father is.
And he's kind of maybe about to tell him
when all of a sudden we see sheep running away
from the dark wood.
The first sign.
We hear an owl hooting.
The sound of a horse winning.
You guys know what's about to happen.
Oh my God, here he comes, here he comes.
Here he comes, gallop, gallop, gallop, gallop, gallop, gallop.
And that magistrate's head, Vernon Dursley's head,
is lopped right off.
And this time when the head is lopped off,
it spins around about 100 Johnny Depp's legs.
And then the horseman comes and spears it.
Like it's a little cocktail weenie with his sword.
And then he runs back off into the woods and that's, yeah.
So now we just cut to Ichabod.
He's back in his room and he believes now.
He's seen this happen.
Sure.
He believes in the horsemen.
Like you with the mosquitoes.
I'm like, I believe I'm exactly the same. It's the same feeling too. He won't leave his bedroom.
He's cowering in the corner scared to death. He's wearing only night clothes. He's acting like the
four-year-old acted in the flashback he was having. It's again, very campy, ridiculous,
Johnny Depp acting. He's saying that it's real.
He believes in it. He's telling Baltus, Katrina, and young Maspeth that headless horseman is here.
And then he passes out. He dreams again of his mother and his abusive father, who seems to be
accusing his mother of witchcraft and taking her away somewhere. Then he wakes up and he is back to
himself. You know, they thought he was a goner. They thought that he was going to have to go back
to New York. They thought he wasn't going to make it, but he is back to himself and he announces he's
going to the Western woods. He's like, who's with me? I'm going to go figure this out. And no one
wants to go with him because everyone's too scared. Only young Maspeth offers to go.
So they ride into the woods,
which is very impressive that all this is on a soundstage, by the way.
The woods are very realistic and beautiful.
So they hear singing in the distance,
they discover a large cave,
they go inside.
You can imagine this is an old crone. Her name is actually Crone.
That's her name.
The script?
One of my favorite words for witch.
No, no, I know.
I hate it.
But she's a witch.
She has hair and a long veil covering her face, so you can't see her.
She's sitting near a fire rocking back and forth,
and she seems to have just been casually eating a bird.
She tells Ichabod to stay and to send the boy back outside.
Then she proceeds to chain herself to the wall.
Not a great sign.
Not a good sign.
Yeah, I don't love that.
Not a good sign.
She starts doing some kind of magic potion stuff,
and she says pretty casually, like,
I hear him ride to the Hollow and back.
I smell the blood on him.
And then she cuts off the head of a bat.
She goes, you seek knowledge of the netherworld?
I can show you.
And then she squeezes all the blood out of the bat.
And then she says, when the other comes,
I will hold him.
Silence.
And then, you know, her face lands on the table,
and Johnny Depp is like, no, Jesus, no, no.
This is really spooky.
This is spooky.
And then poof, she pops back up.
And this part, I actually laughed out loud.
Because when she pops back up, her face
is like a cartoon face of a zombie.
And her eyeballs zing out and go in like different crazy directions.
And then her tongue zings out and goes like also in crazy directions.
And she's like, yeah.
Large Marge in Pee Wee Herman's Big Adventure.
It sounds scary.
It's like you would see it at like Party City or you'd see it at like Halloween.
Yeah, like it's like in Beetlejuice.
Yeah, it's a very-
Also same universe.
Yes, also same universe.
And now it's a scary voice and she says
to follow the Indian trail to where the sun dies.
Follow it to the tree of the dead.
Climb down to his resting place."
And then she collapses and we get a funny shot of Johnny Depp, hurriedly walking out
of the cave, saying to young Masbeth, we're leaving, we're leaving now.
And young Masbeth is like, what happened?
He's like, we're going.
So then they head towards the horseman's grave. And on their way, they run into Katrina.
So she joins them pretty quickly.
They find that tree of the dead.
And I remember this was the part that really scared me when I was little.
And I do think that, I still think that this is kind of the grossest part of the whole film.
Like the scariest part.
Because the whole concept of the tree of the dead is that it is like leaking blood, like it's sap.
And he begins to hack at the tree
and it's like hacking at a corpse.
Oh yeah, I vaguely remember this, yeah.
It's very unsettling and kind of like a genius way
to portray it because the idea of a tree
having like the insides of a human is very...
Ugh, it's really gross.
So he hacks at it and he opens it up.
It's like he's opening up the chest of a human being.
And inside are just a shit ton of heads.
Just a bunch of heads and flies.
And there's blood spurting everywhere, and it's really disgusting.
And I don't know exactly why he did this.
Maybe just to, like, prove that it's bad
or prove it's the Tree of the Dead.
I don't know why he knew, how he knew to, like,
open up the tree, but he did, and it's very gross.
Okay.
Right next to the tree is the grave of the...
of Christopher Walken.
You can tell because his sword is stuck into it
and they dig it up and they find that the skeleton is there,
but there is no skull.
And so Johnny Depp immediately deduces
that this headless horseman is taken heads
until his own is restored to him.
Obviously.
He just figures that out right away.
Yes.
So then we get the horseman coming out of the tree.
Another very gross thing.
It's like the tree is like birthing the horseman from hell.
Like it's pretty fucking gross.
And he just pops out of the tree.
Yeah, nasty. and he just pops out of his tree. Nasty.
And then starts galloping towards Sleepy Hollow.
Ichabod, Crane goes after him.
This next part doesn't need to be in it.
And I don't know why they put it in the movie.
They could have just removed it completely, but they had to do it.
I guess they were trying to make the movie a little bit longer or something, I don't know.
There's a happy family in town, okay?
The family's happy.
We got a midwife.
We got a dad who does something with horses.
Then we got a son about four years old.
And you know, you know what's happening.
The horseman comes for them.
They're like also, that's so cute.
They're saying good night to each other.
They're doing their like bedtime routine.
They just like love each other so much.
They're so sweet, innocent.
They've done nothing wrong.
And-
But Heli, the horseman is bad.
I, yeah.
You know, it's complicated.
We'll talk about that at the end.
So horseman comes first, he gets the dad, lops that head off right off like a dandelion
head.
Then the mom cowering in fear, holds the sun in the bedroom.
Here's what's going on.
Opens up the floorboard, pushes the sun underneath the floorboard.
It's cowering in fear in the bedroom.
Horseman comes in, lops her head off.
Damn.
It rolls, you know, so that her eyes are facing straight down to the sun,
who like looks up at his dead mom's, you know, decapitated head,
and her eyes staring right at him.
He's very scared.
The horseman knows there's someone else there.
So he kind of like looks around, hears a little creak
and bursts through the floorboards,
takes the four-year-old boy, lops his head off too.
Oh, wow.
Oh, shit.
Whoa, okay.
This is why I was like, are you, I mean, come on.
Did you have to?
Yeah.
I always got to respect it, unfortunately.
I know I might feel differently
if I'm ever on the other side of it.
Not getting my head plopped off, I mean, like have a child.
But from where I'm sitting, I'm always like,
hell yeah, they fucking went for it.
Yeah, you fucking went for it.
So- You're gonna do it, do it.
The horseman's gonna leave, like his job is done.
He's heading back to the forest, but then Brom stops him.
And I haven't told you about Brom
because he's a pretty unnecessary character,
but he is in the beginning and he is with Katrina, kind of.
He clearly likes her and he's jealous of Johnny Depp
and is kind of like a bro-y asshole to Johnny Depp.
That's his whole character. So Brom stops the horseman and
tries to fight him and kill him. The horseman's already dead, so you can't kill a dead thing.
Right. There's probably specific rules.
So puts up a really good fight. He does, but he also gets his head lopped off. So Johnny Depp's
having a hard time. He wakes up with a fever, sweating. Katrina is doing some witchy stuff.
She cuts off the feet of crows and puts it into a bubbling cauldron, tells him to drink this special potion, and he does, and in his feverish haze,
he says, the horseman does not kill at random,
but the people who die are chosen
by the person who took his skull.
So the person who took his skull
is controlling the horseman.
So he's figured this out in his feverish haze.
Then he passes out yet again.
We get another vision of his mean, mean daddy
and him as a young boy going into a room
that's just filled with medieval torture instruments.
And there's an Iron Maiden.
Do you guys know what that is?
It's like a big old iron.
It's come up in another movie, right?
Cause I didn't know what it was until it came up here.
Why do I feel like it's in Matilda?
Oh, is it?
It might be.
That's fucked up.
Matilda was fucked up.
Matilda scared me so much when I was a kid.
It's not okay.
Truly.
It's really sad.
It's actually deeply sad.
Anyway, so he sees this iron maid in the distance, this long iron casket looking thing
with a slit around the eyes.
He sees his mom's eyes through the slit.
The Iron Maiden falls open.
He stumbles back in fear and puts his hands on these spikes.
And that's where his scars come from, all over his palms.
And his mom falls out.
She's dead, covered in blood.
So she's been killed in the Iron Maiden by-
Really bad way to go.
Really bad way to go.
Oh my God, what a bad way to go.
Really bad way to go and really bad way to see your mom's-
I think they're also in Hellraiser.
We made a lot of money talking about them in that.
So this is, we're getting some backstory.
This is why Johnny Depp is the way he is, you know, because his father killed his mother
for witchcraft, which wasn't real.
She wasn't even a witch.
And he doesn't want to believe in like sorcery and magic and stuff.
He just wants to believe in logic and reason.
And anyway, so he jolts awake straight into the arms
of Katrina and they have an intimate moment together
where they're speaking softly to each other.
She says, what were you dreaming about?
And he tells her what happened with his mother.
He says, she was innocent, she was murdered by my father.
And they're really like close to each other
and really like looking at each other very lovingly.
And he tells her that she has bewitched him
and it feels like they're gonna kiss, but they don't.
No kissing.
There's just some gentle hugging by candlelight.
So it's good because of the age difference,
but in the movie, it's kind of like, just kiss.
Like, what the fuck?
This is just kiss. So the next day we get a little brainstorming sequence. He's got his little quill,
he's got his ink, he's making a list of things that he knows. It's pretty haphazard brainstorming
session, but he's writing things down. He then has a realization and he runs off to the notary and young Maspeth
is with him and they walk into the notary's office, which is just filled with stacks and
stacks of paper and young Maspeth discovers his father's satchel in there. And it's the
same satchel that we saw in the very beginning opening credits with the will going into it. And so they open it up and the notary is there and he's like,
don't open it up, like don't look at this. Oh no, I'm going to die. I'm going to die.
Don't do it. Don't do it. And they open it up and it's the last will and testament of
Van Garret. He had rewritten his will right before he died. And in it, he leaves everything to widow-windship.
And there's also a marriage certificate
where he had secretly married the widow-windship.
So it's his kid.
Was it notarized?
I think so. I think so. I think so.
So they're all kind of in it.
This is like they realized that the doctor
knew she was pregnant and the magistrate gave her legal advice about her child and the notary
notarized things and then the lawyer helped them drop this will, whatever. So notaries.
Mm-hmm. Very important.
Notaries be notarizing.
Notaries. So important.
Very important.
Notaries be notarizing.
And so Johnny Depp is like, you were all part of the plot.
And the notary is like, we didn't know it was a murdering plot.
And then they deduced that Baltus Van Tassel was the one who stood to lose the most because
I guess he was supposed to inherit the riches from Van Garrett.
I don't really understand this.
I guess he was supposed to get the riches from Van Garrett. I don't really understand this. I guess he was supposed to get all the money from Van Garrett.
So it seems like Baltis is probably guilty.
And that's Dumbledore.
Yes, that's Dumbledore.
And then he comes back to his room
and he finds Katrina in there
where he was doing all that brainstorming before.
And she tells them that her father, Baltis,
wants him to return to New York immediately.
And he says, why?
And she says, maybe because he looked in your notebook
and didn't like what he saw.
And then it pans directly to his notebook
where he's doing all that brainstorming.
He just says in huge letters,
the secret conspiracy points to Baltus.
And it's like, is this a comedy
or are we lopping off heads of four-year-olds?
Like, what are we doing here?
Tim Burton.
Tim Burton, baby.
What are we doing?
Then she leaves and we get a spider moment.
Oh, no.
Really sorry, Emily, but we get a spider moment.
It's okay.
I'll be okay.
Thank you for the warning.
There is a huge fucking tarantula that crawls across the floor.
Johnny Depp, so squeamish, jumps on the bed so scared.
Young Maspeth is like, it's just a spider.
First of all, you do not see tarantulas like that.
Yeah, it's not just a spider, it's a tarantula.
It's a fucking tarantula that they do not live in this part of the country.
So don't act like you see a tarantula like around town.
This is not normal.
Anyway, he's he's like, it's no big deal.
It crawls under the bed.
They pull the bed away to try to get at it.
And they see this big, evil eye drawn,
like someone has done some kind of spell
directly underneath Johnny Depp's bed.
That night, he goes out into the woods
and he finds the Reverend having sex with the stepmother
as she cuts her palm and rubs blood all over his back.
Oh.
Kinky.
So that happens.
And then he returns to his room and the will that he'd taken from the notary is missing.
He goes to the cottage because of course he knows to go there and he finds Katrina burning
it obviously in the fireplace there and he's saying, what are you doing? You're burning the
evidence. And she says, I'm bringing it so you won't accuse my father of wrongdoing.
They have a back and forth. It's very loaded. And she says, I curse bringing it so you won't accuse my father of wrongdoing. They have a back and forth, it's very loaded.
And she says, I curse the day you came to Sleepy Hollow.
And she's basically like, I can't believe I thought
I was falling in love with you.
And then she rears up on her huge white horse,
which can you imagine being able to do that?
Like being on a horse and having to just like rear right up
and you just gallop off with it.
I mean, that happens a lot in this film.
Pop wheelies on bikes.
You can just do a wheelie on a horse.
You can do a wheelie on a horse and be okay.
It is just like doing a wheelie on a horse.
Can you imagine?
So scary.
It's crazy.
He does the thing about being an actor.
You have to really be okay with horses in a way that.
Yeah, but I think a lot of those things, those moments are stunt riders.
Yeah, maybe it was a stunt rider doing it.
It looked like it was her, but, you know, that's the whole point of stunt riders.
They they make it look like.
Remember, we talked to Dan Lippert on the paranormal activity
next of kin episode about his experiences with a horse.
And yeah, there's got to be some stunt doubles in there because scary.
Got to be. So he chases after Katrina. He gets to her back to her house. The stepmother
is down in the kitchen and she says that Katrina won't come down. And then she says, why haven't you asked me about my cut on my palm?
She goes, I know you followed me last night, I know.
She goes, don't tell Baltis,
promise me you won't tell my husband Baltis.
And just then Baltis bursts through and he says,
the notary has hanged himself
and everyone's meeting at the church
because things are not okay.
Shit just got real.
Shit just got real.
And everyone thinks that Ichabod Crane
has something to do with it,
so Ichabod better GTFO.
GTFO before someone gets him.
So that night, everyone in the town meets at the church.
It's pandemonium.
People are shouting, throwing things.
And before the meeting can really begin,
Baltus runs in, declaring that the horseman killed his wife.
So the stepmother has been killed by the horseman.
Mm.
Pandemonium continues to ensue.
Townspeople turning on each other, screaming at each other.
The horseman shows up outside the church.
He can't enter because of God.
Wow.
He's trying.
He's trying his darndest, but the church is a safe space.
As it ought to be.
As it has been for everyone for most of history.
Nobody's ever had a bad time there.
Yes.
Not a one.
No, it's really a safe, safe space of refuge.
So here it gets a little confusing,
but this is when the old men start to turn on each other.
So I think that the doctor starts to tell Baltus something,
but the reverend doesn't want him to say anything,
so the reverend hits him over the head with a cross,
and I think the doctor dies.
And then Baltus shoots the reverend.
And everyone sees him shoot the reverend, and everyone's like, what the fuck? And they start kind of chasing Baltus shoots the reverend. Ah! And he, everyone sees him shoot the reverend
and everyone's like, what the fuck?
And they start kind of chasing Baltus.
They chase him like up these stairs
or he's in front of a window.
And the really resourceful little horseman out there
creates his own kind of harpoon out of the stuff
he can find around him.
Finds a little stick and some rope and, you know,
he just does it all himself.
It's amazing what you can do without a head.
Like he's going fishing.
Yeah, and he shoots a harpoon through the window
of the church.
It spears Baltus right through the center of his chest.
Katrina, meanwhile, has been like doing a spell
on the floor of the church this whole time.
She sees this happen, she screams, she faints.
The horseman drags Baltus through the window, through the graveyard.
He gets caught in a fence and the horseman is like,
oh my God, he goes back and then he lops off his head.
He takes the head and we pan over the church.
We see Katrina's passed out.
A bunch of people are dead.
People have killed each other during all of this.
And we see what she was drawing.
We see what Katrina was drawing.
It's the same huge evil eye that was underneath Johnny Depp's bed.
So the next day, Ichabod Crane says goodbye
to a sleeping Katrina.
I guess she's still passed out.
She hasn't woken up yet.
And he has this like very sad little monologue
because I suppose he's like,
you were the one doing all of this
and you killed your dad and now it's over.
I guess that's what his thought process was.
I didn't have that thought process,
but it seems to be the assumption
that that's the thought process.
Okay.
And he says, like, he basically is like,
it's all over now, so I'm gonna go back to New York.
Like, I'm heartbroken and I'll never,
every day I shall wake up.
Oh yeah, I shall continue living, but my life is over.
Every day I'll wake up filled with grief and remorse and all this stuff.
So he is about to get back in his carriage and young Massbeth is like,
you think it was Katrina, don't you? He's crying.
And Johnny Depp says,
villainy wears many masks, none so dangerous as the mask of virtue.
And he's in the carriage, he's leaving,
he sees the cart with the body of the stepmother.
You can tell because there's the big old cut on her hand.
And he kind of has this thought.
He looks like he thinks of something.
And he takes the book out that Katrina had given him and he opens it up and he flips
through it.
Wow, he never read it. And he sees. He and he flips through it and...
Wow, he never read it.
And he sees...
He says he loves her?
That evil eye.
Protective.
And huge letters above it.
Spell of protection against loved ones.
Okay, read the fucking book that this girl gives you
and she says she loves you, my God.
It's so funny because it's played as such a like,
oh, and it's like for me,
I was like thinking that the whole time.
Like she doesn't seem evil at all.
Like there's no part of her that seems evil.
So it's like, she's doing, she's only,
first of all, she looks like she's 15 years old.
She's not evil.
Anyway, so yeah.
When she's 19.
She's 19.
Big difference.
And Sy, he goes, oh my God, I was wrong. She's 19. Big difference. And Sy, he goes,
oh my God, I was wrong, she's not bad.
He tells the driver, turn around, turn around.
So they rush back into town.
Katrina is back at home, she's alone, she's woken up.
She's sitting by the fire.
She's looking depressed, so sad.
Sad, sad Christina Ricci.
She turns and looks and a figure steps in
to the room. Who do we think it is?
Oh, I remember. So I won't guess because I know.
Who's alive still?
Well, so that's the thing is that you don't realize.
Oh, it's someone that's not that we think is dead. Someone who's...
It's a step.
Okay. I was going to say, I was, damn it. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
The cut hand lady.
Yes, the stepmother. And there was another part which I didn't mention.
Obviously a woman is bad. It can't be one of the men.
No, of course not.
No.
The world of the men?
No.
It's always the woman.
Yeah, who's the only other woman it could be, a stepmother. Um, uh, earlier in the film, there is a part
where, like, Sarah goes missing,
and the stepmother is like, she ran away,
Sarah ran away, the maid.
Anyway, I forgot to mention that part,
but that is kind of relevant.
So her stepmother enters the room,
Katrina is shocked, and the stepmother goes,
oh, you look like you've seen a ghost.
And she's wearing like the fanciest dress I've ever seen.
And it's, she's like put on her finest gown
for this moment.
For the big reveal.
For the big reveal, it was me the whole time.
She faints, so much fainting in this film.
Everyone is constantly fainting.
A lot of fainting, well, they're probably pretty
malnourished in the late 1700s.
That's fair.
When was the last time any of them had water?
Or seen the sun, I haven't seen the sun once.
Yeah.
Her stepmother cuts her, her stepmother brings her
to the basement or I don't know, wherever she's doing
all these little spells, she cuts her hair
and she throws it into the fire
and she summons the horseman for Katrina.
And just then Katrina wakes up and she's like,
my father saw you, he saw you killed.
And the stepmother says, he saw the horseman come up to me.
He saw the horseman like wave his sword at me,
but I control the horseman and he didn't stay to watch.
And then Katrina's like, but there was a body, we saw your body.
And she says, the servant girl, Sarah,
I always thought she was worthless,
but ends up she did have a purpose.
So then we get a flashback of her chopping off Sarah's head
and giving her the same cut on her palm.
And Katrina says, why are you doing this?
And then we get the long monologue
explaining the tragic backstory.
Love it.
She says, my family name is Archer.
You'll remember there was an Archer in the cottage
and the fireplace.
I lived with my father, mother and sister in a cottage
not far from here, Katrina's cottage,
until they were evicted after my father died
and my mother was accused of witchcraft
and we were banished to the woods by the Van Gerets, I guess.
Then her mother died within a year and she was left with her sister to survive in the
woods alone. So these are the two little blonde girls we saw in the beginning who saw the
Hessian mercenary killed. And so they watched him be murdered. And she says, at that moment, I offered my soul to the devil
to avenge my family against the Van Garretts.
The Van Garretts, the landlord who showed us no mercy
and left us to starve while the Van Tassels stole our home.
So then she just picked off everyone one by one,
anyone who got in her way.
She just got that horseman to kill them all.
So now we get the big final scene.
Oh, before we get the big final scene though,
important to note, she also killed her sister
who was the crone living in the cave.
Oh, what a bitch.
What a fucking bitch.
Why'd she kill her?
She didn't need to kill her.
She didn't need to kill her, but she killed her too.
Pretty rude, you say me.
Really rude.
And so now we get this huge final set piece,
this big ass fucking windmills.
For some reason they're in a windmill.
I don't know.
Inside, they're huge rotating gears,
like you're inside of a big old clock.
She's summoned the horseman to come and kill Katrina.
Ichabod has returned, young Masbeth is with him. So it's Katrina, young Ichab kill Katrina. Ichabod has returned.
Young Masbeth is with him.
So it's Katrina, young Ichabod, or Ichabod, Masbeth,
they're being chased by the horsemen.
They go to the top of the windmill,
then they jump onto the windmill's little things
that bring them back down to the windmill,
then the windmill explodes into flames.
And then they start a chase through the woods.
And this final chase scene took three weeks to film.
Oh, wow.
It's a lot of chasing.
It's a lot of chasing.
It's very complicated.
There's a lot of like Johnny Depp, like jumps on the horse
and then the horseman like jumps in the carriage.
And then they're both on the ground
holding onto the carriage.
You know, do you want me to go through all of it?
Because I don't think you need me to, but it is impressive.
Big chase.
It's a big old chase. It's a big old chase.
It ends... Oh, important to note, Johnny Depp also did his own stunts.
What a guy.
Maybe he wrote the trivia here. Again, we don't know.
We can't verify it.
But it says that he did his own stunts here.
So, we've arrived at the Tree of the Dead.
That's where the chase scene ends.
And the stepmother shoots Ichabod right in the chest.
And he collapses.
And young Maspeth runs to him.
And then she grabs Katrina by the hair
and pulls her neck back,
telling the horseman to come and slice her head off.
But just as he's about to come, Ichabod lurches up.
He's alive because...
The book!
You know he kept that book of spells right near his heart where he was meant to.
It saved the bullet and he grabs the skull that was hanging off of the stepmother's
horses.
She has a bag with a skull on it.
Yeah, we need that skull.
And he grabs the skull and now he's the one with the skull so he's in charge and he throws the skull
to the horseman so he gives it back and the horseman drops Katrina puts the skull back
on we watch as the skull kind of becomes a face again and so this is a cool part where
it like you see all like the blood vessels coming in and the tendons and then the skin growing back onto the face
and his mouth is snarling and...
And then turns him right back into Christopher Walken.
We get to see those.
Oh, thank God.
Gorgeous little rubbed down teeth.
Rubbed down, nubs.
Little nubby teeth.
Katrina and Johnny Depp immediately embrace.
It's so funny.
It's like, I would not be embraced.
I would not be like looking like lovingly
at someone in this situation.
I would have all eyes for this demon horseman
who's just come back to life.
Yeah, I wouldn't be turning away from that.
That would pull focus for me for sure.
And so then, yeah, Christopher Walken, he jumps on his horse.
He grabs the stepmother and pulls her up onto the horse and she starts to scream as he begins
to make out with her.
Blood spurts all over her face, spurts all over his face.
He looks very happy.
Then he rides back into the tree of the dead,
holding her back to hell, I suppose.
What is the implication there?
That he's bringing...
She promised her soul to the devil.
So he's bringing her back to the devil.
She said, if you avenge my family...
Was part of the deal that he could kiss her if she wanted?
Pretty sure.
I think that if you promise your soul to someone,
like, yeah, that's like a pretty big commitment.
That's a pretty big commitment.
You should really think twice
before promising your soul to the devil.
Cause that's a really-
Cause he might try to make out with you
or he might have one of his little horsemen
try to make out with you.
I mean, he's the devil.
He's not going to be-
Polite or respectful.
Consensual.
No, I don't like that respectful. Consensual. No.
No, I don't like that one bit.
No, of course not.
So, Ichabod faints for the last time.
We fade out.
We fade back in Ichabod's adorable little sleeping face.
And Christina Ricci reaching over,
giving him a chaste kiss on the cheek.
They're in a carriage. They're entering New York City. The sun is shining.
The city is afresh with modernity.
And the city's afresh with modernity.
They made it back just in time for the turn of the century and young Maspeth is with them
and they're going to start their new life together in New York.
Oh, they don't know about Y2K.
Oh no.
It's so funny.
They kept calling it the new millennium, which is not accurate because-
No.
No.
It's the turn of the century.
Right, but not the new millennium.
But it is not the new millennium.
He says new millennium a few times.
Isn't it crazy that we were alive for the turn of a century
and the entrance into a new millennium?
That is pretty crazy.
At the time, I remember everybody being like,
whoa, and me being like, I guess,
but now that I'm, we won't see that again.
No.
No? No wonder all of us have main character syndrome.
No wonder all of us are like on Star the Show.
That's why, no wonder.
That's definitely why.
I freaking wonder.
We survived Y2K.
We survived Y2K.
God, my head is so fat after surviving Y2K.
My ego is huge.
Huge.
I survived Y2K. I did write my vows the other day,
and the majority of them are about surviving Y2K.
Really Y2K focused.
You guys all know what I'm gonna talk about.
They're about Y2K and they're about me.
Y2K.
Anyway, that's the end of the movie,
and if you're watching on Amazon Prime,
I was watching truly less than 10 seconds into the credits,
they start playing Sweeney Todd.
Immediately it's Sweeney Todd on the TV.
The sequel to Sleepy House.
They're like, you'll like this.
And they're following.
It is like the perfect movie to have on
at a Halloween party, to watch around Halloween.
It's all about vibes.
Truly, even just hearing this,
I was like, ooh, it's almost Halloween.
And the costumes are really fun.
And I love Christina Ricci.
I wish she was in like more things that I've seen.
I feel like she's in so much stuff that I haven't seen.
I need to see more of things with Christina Ricci.
Yeah, I was gonna say a way you could change that
is by seeing those things that you haven't seen.
I know, but the thing is it's like-
And then she would be in more things that you had seen.
No, but here's the thing.
This is what I meant to say.
I wish she had been in more things that I want to see.
I see, I see.
Yeah, that's kind of what I would.
Or have already seen,
because then you could have already seen them.
Did you watch Yellow Jackets?
I did, I did.
I only watched the first season.
Oh, I do need to watch that.
And then I tried with the second season and I just,
I don't know why I couldn't get into it.
Yeah, second season wasn't great, but it's fun.
It's a fun show overall.
I still enjoy it and Christina Ricci is great in it.
She's wonderful.
And yeah, it was fun.
I was glad to revisit it.
And I'm curious about Johnny Depp and, you know.
His horse.
His horse.
Lovely.
Yeah. But it was fun.
I will say I went to CVS and Trader Joe's this week
and they have Halloween decorations.
They have all of their pumpkin flavored things.
It feels like fall.
I got so excited.
It is, this is a perfect day to record Sleepy Hollow
because it is gray outside of Los Angeles.
It is 72 degrees.
After your heat wave, it's over.
Perfect.
It's over.
I mean, it will come back.
This is, this is but a momentary respite,
but it does kind of feel like fall and it's very exciting.
And I will say that at my to remain secret until after
the fact, even though probably everybody fucking knows,
place where we're getting married,
put up their freaking Halloween decorations,
which is so funny and a thing that I had not considered
at all and I'm obsessed with the fact
that there are gonna be like pumpkins and stuff.
Oh my God.
Around at our wedding.
But I'm like so excited that we're in that pocket.
I love that.
Ooh, it's great.
Incredible.
Incredible.
It's gonna be great.
Oh.
Really exciting time of year.
Thank you, Henley, for taking us on this journey.
That was really fun.
You're such a great storyteller.
You really get-
Wow, you really did, yeah.
That was a really good time.
You do some great little voices and you really-
Sound effects.
Yeah, you really put on a performance.
Mm-hmm, that's, I know, it's my bread and butter.
Some people know me, the performer.
Emily the performer, there she goes again.
I mean, when you have kids, like I said,
it's always a little bit of a performance.
That's true, that's true.
You've been doing it full time for years.
You are getting a lot of practice at telling some stories.
It was jarring when Silas started to play pretend.
He started to want to play firetruck about a year ago,
and I remember being like, how do I do that?
And now it's like, you know, it's old hat.
Professional.
I know everything about firetrucks being a firetruck.
Mm-hmm, you're a pro.
I'm a pro.
You're a goddamn pro.
What are their accents in this movie? That's a good question.
They are American accents, but some of the old men have seemingly British accents.
Also they're just old-timey accents.
We could do the crone's voice.
How?
What is it?
She's like, from all of us here.
That kind of vibe.
From all of us here.
Too scary.
They didn't watch.
You have to make your throat really small to be a crow.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Ow, that hurts.
Yeah.
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We made it.
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