Too Scary; Didn't Watch - TENEBRAE with Peter Banifaz

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

A straight razor, a whisper-voiced killer, and an author who is dead set on promoting his book no matter how many murders are happening around him - we're recapping Dario Argento's 1982 Italian slasher Tenebrae! Peter Banifaz (Shameless, Veep, Perry Mason) is here to tell us all about this classic Giallo film. Join us if you wanna live that #garottelife Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I am also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love scary movies, and I love telling Henley and Emily about them, and freaking them out. There we go! She loves it. She loves to freak out her friends. What's up with us, everyone?

How are you, my friends? I don't have much, but I just want to do a quick announcement that Robert Pattinson has tested negative for COVID. Oh my God. He has been cleared.

They have resumed filming on the Batman. And I'm just breathing a big sigh of relief. Wow. I'm so glad I didn't know until just now and I got to experience that. Yeah. This is the way I would want to find out. Yeah. I was pretty thrilled to hear it and so that's yeah just the the highlight of my day um and i thought i'd share

it with you guys lift everybody's spirits huge yeah that's great thank you i feel so much better now yeah you're welcome um i have kind of an interesting thing. So, um, there's an article that came out this week in the New Yorker that's about my hometown. Um, and it's written by a girl who I grew up with, but I never, I never really knew her. She was a few years older than me. Her name's Casey Kep. Um, and, um, she's a woman woman not a girl um anywho so it's about

it's about this uh ongoing controversy in my town that has been really kind of fascinating to watch unravel which is the fact that there's a Confederate statue outside of the courthouse. And it is it basically the town has been protesting it and wanting it to come down. And with everything going on this summer and the George Floyd protest, it finally felt like it was actually going to come down. It felt like they were finally going to do something about it. But the town council just voted to keep it up. Of course they did.

Oh my God. I know. Guys, government is bad. Government is bad. And it was so shocking that they voted to keep it up. I was honestly totally floored that still they are insisting that it remain. And part of this whole story is that I'm from the Eastern Shore of Maryland and grew up in the same town where Frederick Douglass was a slave. And it took until like 2011 for them to put a statue of Frederick Douglass in front of the courthouse. And that now sits next to the Confederate statue.

a law that no statue could be taller than the Confederate statue. So it's this like small version of Frederick Douglas next to the Confederate statue. Oh, that's worse than like not doing it at all. It's like, here's your little

we did a little statue. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And so first of all, it's insane that it took them that long to even put the statue up. Right. And then second of all, it's crazy that they refuse to take this Confederate statue down. And anyway, there's a kind of a really good article about the history of racism on the eastern shore of Maryland and specifically around this debate that's going on. And I was excited to see it in a national magazine. I was excited to see it in the New Yorker. Yeah. Good. I mean, that's fucked up.

That boils my blood. Okay. That's all. That's all I have to say about that. Dang. No, that's fascinating. I want to read that article. And that's really infuriating that they didn't decide to take that statue down.

Yeah, as a white person who has been completely fucking oblivious to a lot of things that have been right in front of her, it's just another example of like, oh, the town I'm from is so extremely racist and still is.

It still is. Yeah. They literally had an opportunity to do this, like a very small thing. Like, honestly, taking down a statue is a pretty small thing. Right. To do. That's really disappointing. I'm mad.

It's incredibly disappointing. Emily, what's going on with you? I mean, not much, honestly. So, sorry. I think I know something. Well, I talked about it last week. And, you know, and well, so I finished my bathroom. Huge news.

Finished my bathroom renovation. I do feel very insane because that room is not well ventilated. And I've been in it for several days painting everything, like the ceiling, everything. And I feel very bad. So physically, I don't feel great. But I'm very happy. I'm very happy with my bathroom. It's my favorite room I've ever been in.

It looks amazing. It's not. But I really love it. It's my favorite room in my apartment. And I'm honestly Honestly I'm really thrilled I'm just really thrilled it might be the best Thing I've ever done So I finished my bathroom

Yeah we'll have to post a picture We'll post a picture of it And a listener sent me a video Of she has a bathroom that she painted Absurdly pink and that was so Cool to see You two are gonna start a trend are going to start a trend. We're going to start a trend.

Pink bathrooms. I really hated it yesterday before it was finished. I was like, oh, no, I've made a huge mistake. And then I finished it. And now I love it. Hell, yeah. And that's pretty much it. I love it.

I can't wait to be able to go in there and have my destination wedding there yeah you can get married in my bathroom um henley it turns out we're not pushing your wedding it's happening on saturday in my bathroom get back to la um it's happening um all right let's get into this week's movie, which is Tenebrae. It came out in 1982, written and directed by Dario Argento, starring Anthony Franciosa, John Saxon,

Daria Nicolodi, Giuliano Gemma, and Cristia Boremio. Good job, Sammy. Thank you. I tried. I don't have a great Italian accent. I don't know whether this is really embarrassing, but I had never heard of this film before

doing it this week. On this podcast. Neither had I. But Emily, why don't you tell us who had heard of it? I'll tell you who had heard of it because we have a guest this week and we're so thrilled. He is an actor and a comedian and just

one of my dearest friends, Peter Banifaz. Yes. Hello. Hi, Peter. Hi. Thank you for having me. Thank you so much. Thanks for being here. Yeah. Thank you for having me. First of all, shout out to Robert Pattinson.

Yeah. Indeed was fantastic news. Batman is back. Yes. Batman is back. Batman is back. We're all breathing. Can't stop the Batman, you know?

A big huge, huge. And also congratulations on the bathroom, boo. Like I could I could see it's like when you create something that you live in by your own hand and craft and skill, that's a big deal, which is really cool. So I'm happy for you. Thank you. I'd love to do something like that. I have yet to.

Have you been doing any DIY projects during quarantine? I haven't. No, I haven't. But there is a DIY project I'd like to do which is I'd like to get a new washer and then install it myself. That sounds tough but rewarding.

Yeah, and that's probably why I haven't done it yet. It sounds really tough. It's not that tough apparently. It's just going to be difficult picking it up and attaching it to the place where like the hose goes or something. Yeah. I guess we'll see. Yeah. There's a reason I guess why I haven't done it yet.

Cause I was planning to do it like literally since April. That happens. That happens. Well, one thing you have been doing in in quarantine is i'm going to give a little plug producing some of the very best instagram content there is oh my god um so friends you've got to make sure we'll we'll post some stuff you got to make sure to follow peter because he's really bringing a lot of joy thank you so much in this time um. And I'm just really bored too. So like a lot of times I'm just bored and then I'll just make a video cause like, uh, yeah, I really don't have much, anything better to do. A lot of times, like if I have some work, take care of that. Or if I have exercise, like if I

have exercise, I mean, if, uh, you know, um, I get a chance to work out and blah, blah, blah. But other than that, it's kind of just like just sitting in my house. And yeah, it's a weird time. Do you,

do you like watching horror movies? Do you like watching scary movies? I do. I love horror movies. Like Halloween is literally my favorite time of the year. Like I love the whole horror genre ever since I was a little kid. Um, yeah.. I'm so sad Halloween this year is basically

canceled-ish. It's going to be a bummer. It is going to be a bummer. One thing I love doing Halloween, the whole month is just watching as many scary movies as I can. I still do that kind of shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you do the like 31 days of Halloween challenge where you try to watch one every day? Kind of. Not like a fish. I guess I didn't officially do it like that where it's like one a day. But I try to watch as many as I can during that time. It just feels like more fun. It just feels more festive when it's like Halloween and you're constantly watching scary shit.

You feel like a kid almost. Wait, so have you never been, you've liked horror movies ever since you were a little kid. Were you ever like really scared of them? Did you go to these? Oh, definitely. When I was a little kid. You just like being scared. You like the feeling of it.

I do like being scared. I, I was like, I think I saw my first like horror little like snippet thing when I was probably like seven or eight or maybe like seven. Yeah, something like that. And like,

I remember it scared me, but also intrigued me and it just sort of like when I used to go to video stores, like when we used to rent videos back in the days, I go to Blockbuster and I go to like the horror section

and then look at the back of all the films and like, but then I'd also get nightmares and and I go to like the horror section and then look at the back of all the films and like, but then I also get nightmares and then like try to like sleep with my mom and shit like that. So yeah. When I was a kid, I would like,

if I was in a video store and I accidentally saw like a horror movie cover, I'd be like, Oh no, no, no. Like I would like free, I would like avoid those aisles. And if I somehow accidentally ended up in one,

it was, like, a whole thing. And I, like, had to get out. Very different experience. What was the first, like, horror movie you saw that you remember? Man, so here's a weird thing. The first horror movie thing I remember is that it was, like, a compilation tape that somebody had taped a bunch of different scenes from different horror movies.

And for some reason, we had this tape. Was it just like a spoiler reel? Yeah, it was only the ending. Really? No, it was. No, no, no, no. It was like it was OK. There was a scene from Ghostbusters one in there.

And then there was a scene from likebusters 1 in there. And then there was a scene from like Nosferatu in there. And then there was a scene from something black and white. I remember – I mean this was literally when I was I think, yeah, like six or seven. So it's like I just remember sort of images. But it was just – and none of them were scary. It wasn't like – like Evil Dead wasn't on there. Some of like the famous like scary movies of them were scary it wasn't like a crazy like evil dead wasn't on there like some of like the famous like scary movies of back in the day weren't there it was very tame stuff but i remember it scared the shit oh clash of the titans there was a scene from

clash of titans which is not even a horror film but like right it was kind of like a scary thing i guess but um yeah that was the first thing I've seen. So it's like, I guess the first horror or monster, whatever thing I remember from the movie was from Clash of Titans. I specifically remember the Medusa character. Ooh, Medusa's scary. Yeah, it was scary.

Even though that feels like an adventure film, but actually it was scary. But you liked it and you were like, I gotta find more compilation clips like this. I was like, Petey boy likes. I like this.

Yeah. But I would get scared so my mom wouldn't want me to watch it because she'd be like, then you're going to not be able to see. Sure.

Now you're a grown up and you can watch it if you want. Yeah. And that's what I tell my mom. Every time we speak, I tell her. I have an out of left field question for you. And it's that I if I'm not mistaken, I feel like you have been in the vicinity of Matthew Reese.

Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We love Matthew Reese. We're all pretty obsessed with matthew reese nice um well i guess the question is what does he smell like yeah yeah just sort of give us everything you've got well uh let me see what does he smell like that's the only thing that's really the only thing i didn't smell him but I didn't smell him, but you know what? He didn't smell bad. So like, I feel like on set.

That checks out. He shows his approach. But honestly, he is such a nice, just such a gentleman and just friendly to everybody. Friendly to everybody. Just an absolute pro. Yeah, it was a real pleasure working with him. I only worked with him for like two days, but yeah, he's just such a nice guy.

I love to hear that. I'm very happy. So it was on Perry Mason, right? Listeners, check out Perry Mason. Yes, Perry Mason. Another little plug. I was in episode seven, yeah. But it was a great time. The whole cast it was just, it was a great time.

The whole cast, the producers, director, everybody was great. But Matthew Reese is like, I feel like on a set like that or on any set, the star kind of sets the tone for how other people act and behave and the vibe.

And like his vibe is so good that everybody's vibe sort of just ended up being great. Hell yeah. That is, that is so great. You know, actually today, today my mom turned to me and said, did you know that the couple from the Americans

is a couple in real life? It's basically the only thing that we know. It's the only thing. We talk about it all the time. Real estate in my brain. It's like a huge chunk of my brain is just Matthew Russell or Matthew Reese and Keri Russell. I've just combined them.

Matthew Russell. I've watched a lot of YouTube compilations of them. Yes. So proud, proud of it. And it's kind of cool and progressive. He took her name. He took her last name. He took her name and

what I decided in my brain is that he did that. Welcome to Cocktail Hour. This week's cocktail is a Negroni. It's a classic cocktail. We're doing a classic film set in Italy. Negronis are red.

Negronis are delicious. Hey, sometimes you just gotta make it something straightforward. So, for a Negroni, pretty simple. It is equal parts gin, Campari, and sweet vermouth. They usually do one, one, and one. You're going to stir all ingredients with ice and strain into a chilled rocks glass over ice and garnish with an orange twist uh hopefully you have had this drink before if not oh my god go make it it's really just a lovely lovely cocktail perfect

for sipping picturing yourself in italy hopefully not being murdered cheers peter why this why this movie in particular what is this a movie you've loved for a long time? Yeah, this is a film I liked for a long time. A friend of mine who's like a big-time film buff introduced me to this film. I had never even heard of Dario Argento. This was like 10 years ago. And just the style, the stylized... I was about to say stylized style. I mean, just sort of like... It's a very stylized I was about to say stylized style

I mean just sort of like it's a very stylized piece it's very sort of like fun and in your face the music is really interesting the music is so good yeah it's so like Goblins which if I don't know if any listens

I'm sure some of your listeners know about the Goblins which is like they're this Italian disco group that made a lot of different beats for these type of films. And I, um, I think these type of films are called Giallo or Giallo. Yeah.

Yeah. Gallo, Gallo, I don't know how to say it either, but it means yellow in Italian. Oh, okay. Um,

and I guess like this genre of heart sub genre of horror is like, basically it's like Italian slasher films. Yeah. They're ultra violent. And yeah, but they have a certain vibe to them. They have sort of like a hip vibe to them. I'm sure you guys have done a lot of, and I've seen a lot of the, you guys already done a lot of the classics and this feels like it's a lesser known classic, but definitely classic.

Yeah. I had never heard of it. Dario Argento, his, his, his most famous film, I'd say is Suspiria, which we haven't done yet.

Which is a movie I, that title I've heard of, but I also know nothing about it. Right. I don't think I would have guessed that it's like an 80s Italian horror. Well, they remade it recently, right? Maybe that's why they did remake it recently.

Yes. That's why I've heard of it more so than the original. Right. Suspiria was apparently Dario Argento's first successful film when it first came out back in the days. And I think this one a lot some people arguably feel that this was his best film like his best crafted film most well-crafted

film yeah i had never i had never seen it um and i had also never heard of it and i am really happy that you picked it because i loved it and it was so good and it is it's kind of like a film schoolie film like I went to film school so I felt like I was back in film school it's got some like Hitchcock vibes and like the colors are so beautiful and the cinematography is really cool for this time there's like one like tracking shot that's I mean I think they literally teach it in film school um so yeah it was really cool i'm glad that you picked it awesome people um who are unfamiliar with this podcast and don't necessarily like scary movies ask me all the time they're like i don't aren't you worried you're gonna run out of movies to do and it's it's just not ever gonna happen no no way yeah i have so many i. No. I have the opposite.

I have the opposite anxiety where I'm like, how are we going to have time to do all of these movies? This podcast is going to have to go on for our whole lives. There's a lot of horror movies. Yeah. I'm very excited. Are we going to watch a trailer now? Oh no,

we do trivia. I don't really have any trivia. I do have one trivia. I just learned this that a lot of people feel, so he was criticized heavily. He was like, your films basically

you're constantly just killing really attractive women and it's sort of like tasteless. And I think he took that to heart and he felt disrespected and he felt like judged and like not understood or whatever and so some people feel this film

was extra violent as a F you to the critics and stuff like that because what's interesting is like definitely there are elements of his film where you're like yeah like I could see sort of like classic like slasher sort of like

sexist. Like scantily clad women. Yeah, scantily. Boobs. Right. Boobs. But then a lot of times, but yeah, boobs.

But then a lot of times, a lot of times the heroine is, are women in his films. So it's like there's this weird progressive slash sexist duality to his stuff, which I can totally understand the criticism.

And then I can understand, well, no, I guess his version. No, I mean, yeah, most of it is pretty sexist stuff, I guess. But yeah. Yeah, there's one part that made me mad. And we'll talk about it when we get there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure. Okay.

We watch this trailer. Yes. Let's watch the trailer. Perfect. Filthy, slimy pervert. I've read all your books, Mr. Neal. The book deals with a murder committed with an old-fashioned open razor, right? This girl, too, was killed with a razor.

And your book's page is stuffed into her mouth. Damn. I wish I'd never written that book. You don't mean that. I've made charts. I've tried building a plot the same way you have. I've tried to figure it out, but... I just have this hunch that something is missing. A tiny piece of jigsaw. Somebody who should be dead is alive, or...

Somebody who should be alive... is already dead. Explain that. You know, there's a sentence in a Conan Doyle book. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. All right. Wow. Oh, my God.

There's a lot of knives in this. And Emily, you are not going to be okay. Especially, I do not like the look of that straight razor. That was a wild trailer. That was a long trailer. It's a long trailer. Very long. Yeah. Trailers are different

now. It definitely looked beautiful. I have a feeling just from that trailer I was like, ooh, I'm getting a lot of some style inspiration from these Italian women who all look way cool. Yep.

We saw some boobs in the trailer. Yeah, not often that you see boobs in the trailer. Not often you get that in the trailer. No, that shocked me. And a lot of just straight up, there was definitely a lot of that in the trailer? No, that shocked me. And a lot of just straight up, there was definitely a lot of violence in the trailer in a way that it was like, hmm.

It freeze frames on a woman with her throat slit. Yeah. And was that, that's the music from the movie that was in the trailer? Yeah, that song rules. Yeah, that song starts from the opening credit sequence and then kind of comes and goes again uh throughout it and then the song that it ends on kind of um is also in it uh yeah it's just that that the music really adds to this film

so like just in general dario gentle films they kind of have that it's like you feel like the music almost doesn't fit the film or the scene. But when you actually watch it, it does in its own crazy way. Yeah. Yeah. The music was a real highlight. Ooh, okay. All right.

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I have it here. His assistant was his and and Bulmer is his agent. Bul have it here. His sister was Amelia. His dad and Bulmer is his agent. Bulmer. Yeah. And so also. Oh, and also he doesn't know this, but he is he is ex wife or I never understood if it was his ex

wife or it was his wife that he didn't talk to anymore or write a slighted some some sort of estrangement an ex yeah an ex of some sort certainly an ex that estrangement and then um she basically kind of follows him there uh but like we don't realize in the beginning like what's going on we just kind of an airport we see her and and then um so he comes and he comes there to promote the book and unrelated

to him coming I mean unrelated to his particular story at the moment somewhere else across town this like young woman goes in to a store and shoplifts and then they catch her and there's this weird exchange with the with the police officer

where she's like, basically, if you let me go, I'll have like sex with you. Yeah. And then it cuts. And the officer's like this and it cuts. Then her walking out of the office and then basically calls like, OK, we'll see you later. Like, like, basically, I guess he agreed. Yeah. It just feels very. I love my job.

Yeah. Yeah. And the dudes like easily 20 something years, 30 years older than her. And then so what happens is then we kind of fall over to her house and turns out someone's watching outside the house. And then they the person breaks in and slashes her throat. And the song that that is during the scene is very dope. It's like that is a bad last day of your life. Yes. Yeah, that sucks.

I remember when I first saw the scene, I was like, oh, wow. And then when the music start, the music kicks in when she gets her like throat slit. And it's such a weird it makes you just go, huh? Like, does this music belong in this? I don't know. It's it's such a weird it makes you just go huh like does this music belong in this i don't know it's it's really really interesting so that happens and then police all over it one thing that happens is they put we see that the killer is like shoving pages of the book the title of the book that peter has written is tenebrae which means darkness in latin um and we see that the killer is ripping out pages of tenebrae and shoving them in the girl's mouth as

he's slitting her throat right also also not during this time another thing that starts having happening is like as as the audience we keep seeing like these sort of this flashback to this like particular situation like years and years ago it's like a it's this young uh attractive woman with these like young attractive men all laughing together and then it sort of cuts to like one of the men slapping the woman uh for whatever god knows why And then the other dudes get mad and they chase him down and they like, you know, they kind of beat him up and throw him on the ground. And then that cuts to her putting her, the heel of her, of her red shoe, like in his mouth, like, and then basically humiliating him and everyone's laughing and stuff like that. And so this flashback keeps coming and

the beginning to the middle we really don't understand what it is and why and then we'll we'll find out and this actress this actress that plays this woman is trans which i thought was pretty cool oh really that's pretty cool yeah that is pretty cool also for yeah for 82 i mean even for now but right it's crazy that even for now, it's still progressive. That's how that we still have so much. Yeah. Yeah. 40 years later, not much progress.

Yep. We got a ways to go. And on crazy because on Wikipedia in this film, it describes the that she orally rapes him with her high-heeled shoe and that definitely makes it sound uh yeah yeah it's like yeah she forces her shoe in the mouth so that's like a really big deal right and then um so meanwhile our our hero is there um and he's kind of doing his thing and then like he gets a wind of the the what's happened and the fact that the pages of his book were in the, uh, in the victim's mouth. So then now he's kind of automatically involved and he needs, you know, he's trying to figure out, okay, what's going on. And there's

an Italian detective who also is on the case. He connects with, um with peter and basically together they sort of set out to sort of solve this crime i mean the italian the the detective his main objection is the objective is to solve a crime um i it feels like the author's main objective is to sort of like promote the book but at the same time figure out exactly what it's going what's happening and then somehow prove that it has nothing to do with his book and it's because i think because there's there's a part where he gets criticism from somebody from like a reporter that hey your books are too violent um or violent against women is that do they specifically yes yes there's a female reporter that yeah says why why is there they're sexist i think she calls the book sexist

and he gets defensive um and yeah at the beginning when he meets the detective detective's name is germani detective germani and it's it's kind of at first kind of seeming like maybe he's a suspect but then he's like well i was on a plane a plane from New York to Rome when this happened. So quickly, the detectives like pretty good. The detectives like, OK, OK. That's interesting that that's what the author, the character is being accused of in the movie. When with the trivia that our gentle made this movie, perhaps as a response to similar criticism. Right. Right. Right.

Right. I thought that was interesting too. A little meta. Yeah. A little meta. Definitely. Yeah. He finds out that his belongings have been vandalized.

Right. And he finds out that the belongings have been vandalized. Little did he know that the person who vandalized him was his, sort of his estranged wife. Oh. Okay. That she came to sort of Italy to like to do that to him. He doesn't

know. Let's see. He gets like an anonymous letter slipped under his hotel room door and a phone call from this seeming murderer while the detectives are still in the room. And this scene is in the trailer where

he's like on the phone and the killer's voice is like maybe one of the things it sounds like a woman it's right so creepy it's very whispery and yeah he says like asmr yeah oh like a horrible form of ASMR. Like, it's just, yeah, it sounds horrible. Yeah, so they know that the killer knows that Peter is here. And I think the detective says something like, okay, this means he's probably going to strike again. He's motivated by your book. Um, he's motivated by your book and I think we might have like a potential serial killer vibe on our hands.

It seems like someone who's like into doing these murders after your book. And then Peter is pretty much like, oh, that sucks. But, uh, well, got to promote my book. So, but then more shit happens. There is this famous journalist, and the film really makes it a point to let the audience know that she's a lesbian. I think she's the one who interviews him, right? Yes.

And calls him sexist. Yes, and interesting enough, it's almost like, oh yeah, of course she's a lesbian because she's got a she hates men and she's like yeah a lesbian because it just felt like i think he's sexist right it's like what does she know she doesn't even love men like she could never i don't know like it felt very undernosed very undernosed sexist. But so that happens. And I believe this was the scene. This is like a very famous scene

in the film where it basically, there's this tracking shot that follows the woman from her window to like different parts of like the building. Yeah.

It's hard to describe. It's like her and her girlfriend in the house. I think they're like lovers, right? Because they're like getting mad at each other. There's something happening between them. And yeah, it's like a crane shot that goes up from the reporter's window to the girlfriend's window in the second store and then moves back down and then kind of does like a full rotation in a way that you kind of don't know where you are for a second and you come back

up kind of disoriented and we see hands with clippers cutting open the window uh-oh ew and we i'm guessing these are dangerous looking clippers. Yes. And they're not like your average normal safe. No, like some garden sheer looking clippers. And fun fact, all of the hands in this are Dario Argento's hands. So all these POV shots are the director's hands, which is kind of cool. Fun. Interesting. Another fun fact. shots are the director's hands which is kind of cool fun interesting another fun fact oh i believe that the the actress who plays the assistant is dario gentle's wife oh in real life and the one

that plays ann i believe so yeah so and i just wanted to say ann and um peter have kind of a frazier and roz vibe and i really really liked that. I liked Anne. She's great. Yeah. Yeah, she's great. Another thing that's also weird about this film is it feels like the entire thing was an Italian and then everybody redubbed and even the English was redubbed. So it's like it's out of sync pretty much the whole time. Yeah, there were moments in the trailer.

I was like, wait, their lips are saying those words but it still isn't right right yeah it's funny but i got i actually got used to it kind of quick usually i mean i i don't like dubbing i don't prefer it but i got used to it and it was fine. Right. So in this killing of the journalist, this is another very famous scene in the movie that's actually in the trailer too. The song is also really cool. It's by Goblins, and I believe the song was called Flashing. I believe that's the name of the song.

Yeah. And then basically, again, sort of, what was it? Is this scene, did he stuff anything in her mouth in this scene well he she's like getting she gets in her room and you hear she hears the whisper yeah yeah and kind of like i hate that she pauses for a second because she hears it and looks a little creeped out and then it's like oh well i don't know what that is and takes her shirt off and is like pulling her shirt over her head and then we see his hand come in behind grab her from behind and slash her shirt and so there's this kind of famous shot of the slit t-shirt and her scared face through the T-shirt. And then there's a blood splatter. And she, she did.

It feels like, one thing is you'll see is like, it feels like all these murders, like it's, they're very, they're really shaming. Like they're sort of like, like, how do you say? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's sort of like somebody, some, this killer clearly has something with women and sexuality. This would have been a time with more homophobia, too.

I'm sure there's some of that as well. Oh, definitely. Oh, okay. So we're sort of seeing the first woman get killed because she had sex with the cop, potentially. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Right, right.

And this one's a is a is a lesbian so it's like there's some type of weird uh conservative shit going on yeah there's a one right way and amount to love men and sex and neither of these women are doing it right that's correct and that's why this murder is going around killing all of them uh Let me see where I lost my train of thought here. Then they then the killer like goes upstairs and kills that girlfriend who is naked. And it's that it's kind of like her in her towel screaming, running. Right. And he slices her back and she falls.

She falls through a window and he slices her neck as she falls. And she falls backwards with her head like hanging off the window and her throat slit. That is the freeze frame from the trailer. And I think it's the inspiration for the cover of the film. Right, right. Okay. Absolutely. Are there pages of the film. Right, right, okay, right, absolutely. Are there pages of the book involved in these murders? I don't think so. I don't think in this scene.

No, I don't think in particular this one. But he's using a straight razor, which the character in the book does as well. And then there was another murder after this, right? It was Peter's landlord. It's like the hotel owner's daughter, I think. Daughter after this, right? It was Peter's landlord. It's like the hotel owner's daughter, I think. Daughter, right, right. She like helps him.

She's super cute. This is probably where you were feeling your style inspiration from, Emily, in the trailer. She's in the trailer. She's got like a cute little mini skirt and a t-shirt. She's super cute. She helps him like fix his hot water heater. And Anne comes in and kind of gives Peter a look afterwards like, oh, you don't waste any time, like already hooking up with the locals.

And he's like, oh, Anne, she was fixing my water heater. Like the Fraser Ross dynamic. I just like it. And in this scene, while they're still in the hotel, they see his ex through the hotel window. And they're kind of not sure if it was her, but they see her. They're like, what the fuck? Like, was that your ex-wife driving by? So at this point, they don't know that she's there? Yeah, they don't know.

And so Peter calls her to be like, no, that wouldn't have been her. Let me call her. And her voicemail, it goes to voicemail and he's like, what the fuck? I think it was her. And she like speeds off. And they're just like, why the hell is my ex-wife here in Rome?

That's weird. Which is weird. It's true. I'd be like, what the hell? I think I'd be pretty freaked out too. I would find it weird's true. I'd be like, what the hell? I think I'd be pretty, I would find it weird. Personally. I would find it weird too. So then it comes a book reviewer, a book,

I'm sorry, book reviewer's name was? Cristiano? Cristiano Berti. So this guy is a book reviewer and he's also like, he's really, he's another guy that's

kind of on Peter's ass and like is a very, sort of just like very judgmental. And it was like, harshly criticizes the book. Seems that he's kind of like a weird, ultra conservative, like Puritan type guy himself.

Um, which is like, we're like, huh, that's, that's weird. Cause like, he's got weird vibes.

Yeah. He's got really weird vibes. I think he says something like your book is about like killing like the scum of the earth or something like that and he's like that's not what it's about like what are you talking about they like just have like a weird interaction where he's like this guy's fucking weird wait does he just confront him do they have like a meeting together no it was like a scheduled like meeting like interview type thing where he's like i'm writing an article on your book or something.

And just goes kind of weird. And then we get then we get the landlord daughter scene. Right. And then that's the scene where she she gets killed, too. It's so prolonged, though. This is the scene that I was this is the scene that I was mad about. So, OK, first, she's like walking home after work. And this is the girl in the cute skirt?

Girl in the cute skirt. She, like, hops on the back of someone's little motorcycle and gets dropped off near her house. Or, no, he, like, makes a pass at her knees. She's like, let me off here. I'll walk the rest of the way. Walks. And then there's, like, a Rottweiler through a fence

that's barking at her. And this dog acting. Ooh, dog actor. Gives the dogs from the thing a run for their money, if I recall my dog acting. So it's barking at her and it's jumping. And it's like the fence is high, probably eight feet high. And this dog almost gets over it. And it shows the shot.

Like this isn't a special effect this is just a very talented dog and determined to get this girl so anyways it goes into this long he eventually gets over it gets into this long dog chase she has to hop a fence it attacks her

it's on top of her she's like blocking with her hands it shows it like biting her arms and like biting her legs. She's bleeding like dripping blood on herself. She kicks it and like gets away from it and gets into someone's backyard

which we have already seen I think a scene that this is the killer's place. I think we've seen the scene of him like developing photos because he takes photos of each of his victims. So, is this just a coincidence that she

got chased into the yard of the killer or was this a masterminded plot by the killer? No, this is just an unfortunate coincidence, I believe. He wasn't working with a genius dog? Is this movie secretly about a really smart dog? I mean, maybe the dog's the killer.

We don't know yet. And the dog's name ends up being Tenebrae. Here, Tenebrae. Here, Tenebrae. And the dog is also terribly dubbed, I'm assuming. Yeah, all the barks are out of sync. Dog hands and gloves with the straight razor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wait, honestly, what if it was the dog? Why are there no dog murderer movies? I guess there's Cujo. But I want like a murderer, like a human murderer, but it's a dog. Anyway. A human murderer, but it's a dog. Exactly. Oh, it kills humans, but it's a dog.

No further explanation necessary. And yes, that is my complete pitch. I have nothing else to say. That's what it says on all the posters. It's a human murderer. Just get it done, Hollywood. Get it done. Okay, so this young,

so this woman basically who runs through this home, well, guess what happens to her, unfortunately? She ends up dead. You guessed it. She ends up dead. But it's so prolonged and she goes through so much. So it's like first she fights off this

fucking dog for like five minutes then she's inside she sees all the developed photos of the other dead women and she's like oh fuck now i'm in a killer's house because she knows about this this is in the news she like very cleverly folds up all the photos starts putting in her pocket she's like gathering evidence she's like i gotta catch this guy and like almost makes it out and then uh in the living room we hear spy filthy spy it's really creepy and another it's another long chase and it's like this one goes on for a while too so it just was like it's you're with her for long enough to like be invested in her survival so i was i was pretty pissed when she died because

i mean and that's that's why they did it i suppose but because it sounds like all the other ones have just been pretty quick you don't really care about them so much however one thing her murder does do it sort of brings to light some of the uh some of the the same specifics as what happened with the the other murders and basically on a hunch um the the uh the italian detectives um do we say there's two detectives uh We didn't, but I feel like the other one has like zero lines, but there are two. Yeah. It's a it's a man and a woman. The man, I can't remember his name now.

Germani. Yeah. Right. His name is Giani. Germani. There is also a Giani. So we got to be careful. Wait.

Yeah. There's a Germani and a Giani. Yeah. Germani is the detective. Giani is his is peter's assist like young assistant right right right we haven't really seen that much yet no we haven't really seen him yet uh and uh spoiler alert he dies later uh so Gianni not Gianni sorry god damn it the Italian detective

the Italian on a hunch they're like bro this guy the same guy who's the book critic he's like showing this weird ass obsession with Peter's books and like he's kind of like a bigot too

he's kind of like a bigot too. He's kind of like a sort of that puritanical conservative sort of Not a jump that this man would maybe murder women. Yeah. We're feeling suspicious of this guy now. Let's maybe check him out.

This guy, he certainly has some kind of hate and anger inside of him. Something's going on with him. So they check out. kind of hate and anger inside of him. Something's going on with him. So they, they check out. So they come and they spy on him. And this is where,

this is where we meet Gianni. So this is the young assistant. Yeah. So the young assistant comes, it was a young assistant that spies, right? And Peter, they go together and,

and they've kind of branched off from the detective though. I feel like they're kind of, they're fancying themselves detectives. So they're like, we're going to go solve. Well, more Petereter i feel like he's really leading the lead in the chase and he's like i'm a crime novelist so i can probably solve crimes better than detectives it's getting a little a little ego trippy but he's like johnny come help me let's go spy on this guy right and and also it just so happens that they found this this woman's body in this guy's area like close to yep to the so all of it has kind of come together while they're

spying on him they see him he's talking on the phone with someone correct and i i think or i i don't know i think he's just like he's holding some papers and you just see his lips moving, but you don't hear what he says yet. He basically, Johnny is closer. Johnny's looking through the window and he's seeing this guy and we just see an axe come into the guy's head. Not an axe. And it's bad. It's like, it looks really gruesome for an 80s movie. It looks, I thought this was the most realistic looking one. The book critic gets murdered. Yes.

Who we suspected. Oh, I like when they do that. When they're like, never mind. Yeah. So that was our main suspect at this point. And Johnny sees him get killed. And they go to make a run for it he goes and Peter he finds Peter who was like hiding in the bushes and now Peter

has a head wound and he's like I somebody hit me somebody came in and hit me picks Peter up they get back in the car they drive home and and when you're watching this movie you're like wait what the fuck is going on? Yeah. Well, there's kind of like a dynamic between the detective and Peter where the detective kind of knows that he's holding out information on him, I think. And he's kind of like, if you know, if you like suspect something, maybe this already happened because now this guy's dead. But but they're kind of one of the little cat and mouse things that they're saying to each other is he says I read your last book and I figured out who the killer was on page 30 which I thought was a fun line for a murder mystery movie because then my little brain is turning I'm like who did we meet early on that's a clever clever clever. And then they quote some Arthur Conan Doyle.

And they start, I think they do start kind of working together. And Peter is like, you know, once you rule out the impossible, the only thing left is like the most likely solution. I don't know. We've all heard that line. We've seen Sherlock Holmes. We've all seen Sherlock Holmes. So is the assumption then now that the killer knocked out Peter potentially and killed this other like chose to not kill Peter?

Yeah. Right. Yes. Okay. Peter's getting like notes after each murder, too, by the way. And that was one thing that I was like, he doesn't seem nervous enough that the killer just knows where he lives. Because he's getting little little notes under his door each time there's a dead a dead person shows up right little hints little

like like taunting sort of like things he doesn't seem scared he doesn't okay so after this because now they've had like a closer run and so this night he says and will you spend the night tonight okay so he's getting a little scared yeah and he's getting a little scared. Yeah, and he's getting a little scared. There's some I mean, in the trailer we saw there's a line with his agent that's like, I want to get out of here. And he's like, no, your book tour is not over. He's like, well, my life is in

danger. Yeah, so Anne stays with him and they hook up. Oh my God, I can't believe it. And so this is the first time that they've crossed sort of like the line of platonic friendship

into like, let's just say it, making sweet love. Let's just say it. And I think they even say, well, your wife was in the way for six years or something like that. Whoa! So they, I guess, have had some sexual tension. Not unlike Frasier and Ross.

Yeah, no, this is classic Frasier and Ross. This is classic Frasier and Ross right here. We've all seen it. We know. We know what's up. We see that the next morning Johnny is not doing well after witnessing someone being axed in the head.

There's like a part where they almost get in a car accident because he's so stressed. He's just not doing well after witnessing someone being axed in the head. There's like a part where they almost get in a car accident because he's so stressed. He's just not doing well. Next morning we see that Bulmer, the agent, is hooking up with Jane, the ex-wife. And so maybe this is why she is in Rome.

Yes, yes. Okay, but honestly that's like that makes sense. It's more of a relief. Yeah, there's a reason, I guess. I'm glad she's not a stalker. Yeah, so okay, so it can't be her, right? Because she's there for... She's there

to hook up with Bulmer. They both also like assume that what's his name? Peter doesn't know anything about this. Yeah, so Peter's planning on leaving Rome, and the detective is like, good idea. I think that's probably for the best. Like, it's clear that this guy was kind of obsessed with you,

and yeah, like, there's a serial killer basing things off your book, so probably a good idea. Also feels like already not great press for the book, so, you know, might as well chalk it up or the best press is it or or the yeah exactly is it the best ever press yeah could be getting it all over the news um and we get another the flashback to the woman in the red shoes and she is just walking and we see her kind of recognize someone and we see POV like a hand stabbing her in the stomach.

Oh, God. And it was a flashback. It's the same night. It looks maybe like a different day. I mean, she's still wearing the red shoes, I think, but I think it is a different day or maybe the same day. I don't know, but we don't know who it is. It's not current. Right.

It's sort of that revolving flashback where every time we see a little bit more and more of what happened. Okay, cool. Yeah, exactly. So Jane gets a like delivery. Jane is the ex-wife who gets a delivery of red shoes.

The very same red shoes that this woman in the flashbacks was wearing. Who sent these. She probably assumes Bulmer sent them. She puts them on. She's going to meet Bulmer. We see Bulmer waiting for her in kind of a town square type place. Uh-oh. And we see someone come up to him and stab him a bunch of times.

Oh, him? Right. Someone stabs him. Oh, no. And we have no idea. And yeah, I mean, I feel like he was my next in line suspect at this point, right? Right. Yeah.

And so Jane comes up just as he's as they're discovering like townspeople around her kind of noticing his bleeding out body. She walks up just then, freaks out, flees the scene. She doesn't go to like help him or like see if

he's okay? No. She just runs away. And we see the... Is she wearing the shoes? She is wearing the shoes, runs away um and we see the is she wearing the shoes she is wearing the shoes yes okay um we see the uh peter's plane take off he's leaving rome getting out of here and stays behind to do some assistant stuff i guess finishing some things up um and then johnny who is still not doing well, decides to return to the scene of the crime. I feel like he feels like he has blocked something out that maybe if he goes back, he'll be able to remember it. He goes back and it replays in his head and we see the thing that, that he said that the,

that the book reviewer said that we didn't hear the first time. Right. Right. Is I, yes, I killed them. I killed them all. What?

Whoa. Wait a minute. So, so there are two killers. So now we know there are. That was a really bad impression of Robert Durst. So yeah. So then Robert Durst shows up

and says, I know that there's two killers. And he can't stop burping. And he can't stop. And then before he can't stop burping. And he can't stop. And then, but before he can tell anybody, he dies in the car, correct? Yes. He gets choked out. And that's another part in the trailer that I believe they showed where it's like. Oh, yeah.

Strangled. Strangled. On the Wikipedia, it says he's garrotted to death, which is what it's called. Ew, just hate that that's an awful word i don't know why oh it's because it's in a ton of french book that i read they're always garroting things oh god gotta be garroting always always garroting stay grotting that sounds horrible that sounds horrible hashtag stay grotting hashtag

grot life grot life so what happened so now my memory is coming back to me

and these parts are some of my favorite parts so now we're getting towards the end and now nobody really knows. We think nobody knows what's going on because Johnny's been killed.

And then we basically to the was at the same house or was a different house that that and that that his ex-wife comes to. So it's wherever Jane is staying. So Jane calls and Jane's freaked out. So it's wherever Jane is staying. So Jane calls Anne. Oh, right. Because Jane's freaked out. She just saw her lover be murdered or like dead. She didn't see the murder, but she's freaked out.

She calls Anne. So Anne shows up at her house. Well, first, no, before Anne shows up is a really good scene with Jane. So Jane is like sitting at her dining table. Do you remember this part? Yes, yes. So Jane is sitting at her dining table. Do you remember this part? Yes, yes. So Jane is sitting at her dining table. She's scared as shit, but she's waiting for Anne to show up and she has a gun out.

So she's holding her gun, basically waiting. She's sitting at the table by the window. And this is another famous scene where suddenly out of nowhere an axe comes through the window and cuts off Jane's arm. What? Her arm? Okay. off Jane's arm. What?

Her arm? Okay. Her entire arm. Okay. And then, literally, blood is squirting everywhere. Like a fucking fountain. Yeah, it's like... Everywhere.

Oh, my God. And then she's going, ah! Oh, my God. She falls down. She falls down, and we see the axe come down on her a couple of more times. And she's dead. And from that moment also, again, it flashbacks to that scene where that young woman was being murdered years ago with the red shoes.

Oh, right, because she's wearing the red shoes too. Yes, yes. So it's like suddenly we get an idea that is there some kind of link here whatnot then comes um i believe then comes the the uh the young italian detective yes not the not not the main detective but his female partner who we didn't talk too much about but i thought i think you're meant to think that it's ann because ann is rushing to the house and so you just see the back of her come in this woman and you're i i wasn't sure which one it was and you just see an axe come down on her and kill her and i yelled no and because i loved ann have i said it i love ann and this is a crazy part it turns out that it's not Anne. And then the murderer basically is like, oh, my God, I can't believe what I just done.

Wait, can you guys guess who the murderer is? Anne? What's your guess? Because we're about to find out. Emily. Oh, we're about to find out. Peter. Yeah, it's Peter.

It's Peter. It's Peter. He's the only one left. the reveal is so and the reveal is so cool and it's like basically he thinks that he's killed and he's like oh my god i can't believe you know and and then suddenly at that exact moment that it reveals it's him the young italian main detective guy did main detective comes in and basically says, I knew it. So is you with and to at the same time and like screaming and freaking out and is so I really wanted to be. And I like really thought it was and this whole time.

She looks so guilty in the trailer. So all of her lines are dubbed. He didn't want to kill and no No, because he actually did love Anne, right? Okay. So basically what it turns out happened is he wasn't the killer. The main real first killer was the book reviewer. But when he came into town and started hearing about these murders and everything, it suddenly awoke this memory in him of when he was young and he was he was basically humiliated by that

woman and he killed her. So it rewoke this killer instinct in him and he basically started killing again. Whoa. So, OK, so the flashbacks were him. He was the one who had the shoe in his mouth. He had a repressed lust for murder. Right. That's a great way to put it.

The detective makes Anne wait in the car and he's like, I put this together because there was a woman that died in his neighborhood in Rhode Island that was never solved and I knew it was him. Oh, wait, no, sorry. I skipped it. I skipped something. So first they're in the big confrontation

and Peter slits his own throat. Yeah, he literally says, basically, you're coming with me. And then Peter says, no, he fucking slits his own throat and he dies right there. And then he basically, and then the cop goes back in the car to speak with ann right that's kind of when he like explains it to her he basically speaks to ann explains how he came to understanding that peter was the killer and what exactly happened um and then um the the detective goes back in the house but this time when he goes back in the house. But this time when he goes back in the house,

suddenly an ax comes to his back and kills him. And it turns out it was Peter. And Peter never actually cut his own throat. He used this razor that squirts out fake blood. What an asshole. So he waits for Anne to come so he can kill Anne too. Because he probably at this point basically, well, you know, I got to kill everyone, you know, cause now everyone knows.

Yeah. As he's waiting for Anne to come. So Anne comes inside the house as is waiting and pushes the door open to come inside. It hits this statue thing that has a sharp thing and it falls on Peter and goes in his chest and impales him. Like a huge spike. So literally Anne opens the door.

She's like, ah! And basically screams, just impales. And she screams and screams and screams. And it literally just fades to black. And then you just hear her screaming for like literally like 10, 15 seconds. As then slowly the ending credit sequence, the credits start rolling. Credits over screams is a pretty cool choice.

Yeah, that is cool. That is cool. I like that. What the fuck? There were so many murders. I mean, yeah, it just got to a point where it's like, well, it's got to be Peter. Literally everybody else is dead.

Everything up until the book reviewer's death was the book reviewer. Yes. And then Peter, his first kill in this new time was he killed the book reviewer. Yep. Right. And then killed

Gianni and then Jane and the literary agent. And I think the moral of all of it is, hey, go to therapy, deal with your your pain, deal with, you know. Yeah. Deal with your past. And being humiliated isn't a good enough reason to murder someone else. Well, it is if you're a man, because that's the worst thing that can happen to you.

He like slapped her or did something weird. Like basically it was he's obviously a piece of shit. He did something to her. Then they got him back for doing this like horrible thing to her. And then he I don't know. So it's obvious this guy is sort of a sociopath from the beginning. Right. What did you guys think? Did you like it? Are you going to are you going to watch it?

I might have watched it, were it not for the arm getting cut off. I don't want to see all these women get stabbed. I just don't want to. I guess I would watch maybe the big, like, I would watch clips of it. It does look really cool. Like, the trailer looks really cool. It looks like it. It is. It's really cool. And listeners, if you if you're feeling brave, I do recommend if you're feeling brave and if you've got Shudder, watch it. I would watch the tracking shot. That sounds interesting. It's on YouTube. The tracking shot is on YouTube. There's definitely it's a very cinematic piece. So if you're a fan of cinema, it's beautiful. Again, when I saw it, I was just kind of young and stupid and didn't realize how some of these themes and some of the sort of things in it was just like fucked up as

much as I just looked at it as sort of like, oh, this is like an Italian, you know, Friday the 13th or like, it's just like a slasher film. Right. But yeah, certainly when you really analyze what's happening, it's literally just a film that kind of promotes extreme violence towards women. And it's almost like a fuck you for how dare you criticize me. How dare you tell me that I do this? Watch me do it. Exactly.

So, um, it's one of those things where it's like looking back now you're like, Oh, but as a kid, when I looked at it, I just didn't, none of that stuff even. i was i was too ignorant i didn't really yeah look at it like that yeah um i mean i still liked it even though even though sammy are you gonna watch

more of them now have you seen have you seen like the older suspiria and stuff no i haven't seen suspiria it does it makes me want to watch more of his films to be honest with you. I don't watch a lot of classic films these days. I don't know why. It's just kind of you assume they're going to be boring, right? Is that just me? No, I assume that.

My best friend who I lived with in college refused to watch movies that were older than like from 2000. She's like, I just can't look at it. It's like too old. Well, it's like I went to film school and I know that they're good. Like I know I've seen many and they're all good. And I don't know why each time I have a hesitation, I'm like, I don't know if I'm in the mood for it.

Well, it's because our attention spans are already totally shot. Yes, that's exactly it. That's exactly right. Totally shot. And shot and yeah older movies they just assume that you'll be able to focus on them and i can barely focus on eight the 18 screens i have in front of me at one time yeah i can't focus on anything yeah but it's worth it it's worth um making the time and and focusing because they're really good um And I really enjoyed this. Probably what I'll do is watch Call Me By Your Name again, which is set in Italy in the 80s

because I'm really just looking for that aesthetic. There we go. Very different vibe. If you want to watch an older movie, just watch Call Me By Your Name. The classic Call Me By Your Name. A lot of people don't know this. Call Me By Your Name is technically a lot of people don't know this call me by your name

is technically a remake of Tenebrae without the misogynistic ritual murdering it cut down a little bit what good trivia

I'm trying to think of like whose perspective is it from it's both are happening in the same universe it's simultaneous it's just that you know a few streets down there's this love story happening but there's also murder oh right right right right that's

what it is that's what it is oh my god exactly oh boy all right well I think well should we use the creepy whisper voice Oh my god. Oh boy. Well, I think... Should we use the creepy whisper voice? Oh yeah, so who was doing the voice first? It was the book reviewer and then

Peter was like, I could do that voice too. I feel like it was maybe only the book. Does the voice continue? I think the voice stops after. I think the last time we hear the voice is the landlord's daughter where he says filthy spy

okay so he was a freak too he was a freak it's so gross the way it's like that's whispering just just listen watch the movie just to see how creepy that whispering is yes but okay Peter so the way we usually close it out is with a voice so this works Just to see how creepy that whispering is. Yes. Yuck.

But okay, Peter, so the way we usually close it out is with a voice. So this works out well. So we'll all say goodbye in that voice. Okay, let's do it. Okay, so. From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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