Too Scary; Didn't Watch - TERRIFIED with Chelsea Rebecca and James A. Janisse

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

There's something strange in the neighborhood and our ghostbusters are being a little too chill about it!! This week we are honored to be joined by Chelsea Rebecca and James A. Janisse (Dead Meat) to discuss the very unsettling 2018 Argentinian horror film TERRIFIED. So pull on some jeans and hop into your twin bed cuz it's time to get...terrified.TrailerRecap begins @ 26:02Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we've got a pretty scary one this week, I gotta say. This movie is pretty scary, but before we get into it, Emily, did anything scary happen to you this week? Yes, okay

So Listeners may know That I never make dinner anymore That That Joel makes dinner Just every single Every single night that we eat dinner at home It's made by Joel

I'm very lucky He likes to cook. I don't really, but like I used to live alone. I can, I know how to like cook food. I can cook things. I've done it before. I, you know, I know how to do it. I've done it, but I never do it anymore. I never have to cook dinner. And Joel started doing some freelance work So last week You know I always text someone On my way home from work Not so he can like get dinner on the table

But just so he knows When I'm coming home and I You know I didn't I didn't hear from him until I'm almost Home and he was like okay I'm still at work I knew that if he stayed late enough, they were going to give him dinner. Um, and so I was like, okay, so I, you know, time for me to do dinner for me. And I had to stop at target to pick up

a prescription. So I was like, great. I'll just like, you know what? Like it's late. It was like seven 30, you know, that's late for me where I want, I need to eat and get this done. You know? And I've started eating dinner at like 5 30 since the time change oh yeah when the time change happens it's also like i'm trying to be in bed by 10 and it's like if we're eating dinner eight uh-oh like you know we're already you need at least yeah like two to three hours to with this heartburn with heartburn you can't oh yeah yeah i gotta be upright you're playing with fire exactly you get it so i um was like okay gotta figure out how to have a have a dinner and do it quick

and so i was like okay here's what i'll do i'll just like i was like there's a i remember that there's like a little panera section at target with like soups and stuff and i was like great i'll get like a soup and i found a broccoli cheddar Panera soup looked good. And I was like, oh, and I'll get some like frozen broccoli and I'll put that in it. So it'd be like even extra broccoli. And in my head, I'm like, this makes sense. This is a great idea. And I get home and I'm like heating up the soup and it all was like more difficult than I thought it was going to be more of a microwave. So it's like like I am still like using pots and pans And like making the broccoli making the soup

And Joel gets Home while I'm doing this and he was like what are you Doing like what and I Like and and so here also it turns Out that this soup I think It was either disgusting or expired So I made this Whole thing and I pour this soup over

My broccoli and it's like disgusting And horrifying and it's just like Big and I put it in like one of those Big wide pasta bowls to like cool It down faster because it was getting late And I just have this wide Nasty bowl of like Glow soup over

Frozen broccoli And I felt like I was like When you break a bone and you put a cast On it and so you don't you take the Cast off that muscle is like completely Withered and atrophied If you don't use it you lose it And I was like I don't know how to make myself dinner

Like and it makes me Feel like a fucking like 1950s husband who's Like I don't even know how to make dinner Like Fucking Harry Styles and Don't Worry Darling 1950s husband who's like, I don't even know how to make dinner. Like fucking Harry Styles in Don't Worry Darling banging on the potatoes with

a bunch of canter where I'm like, honestly, we made a lot of fun of that, but I think I get it. I don't know how to cook anymore. It's relatable now. It was just really strange. It was strange. Cooking sucks. I hate it. You know I hate it as well. I hate it.

I'm really sorry that you had to do it for even one single night is too much. Thank you. Well, and guess what? I didn't eat the soup. I poured it all straight in the trash. It was horrible. I mean, yeah, it sounds like it was disgusting. And I had a hard-boiled egg and a little bit of salad and

like some cheese. It was like I can't fend for myself, which is upsetting. I mean, you're preaching to the choir here. I feel like this is all sounding extremely familiar to me. So thank you. I know you get it. Don't feel ashamed. Thank you. Joel really was confused. Um, so anyway, it was a little bit scary. It was a little bit scary. Well, that does sound scary. I'm sorry that that happened to you. Thank you. I made it.

I made it. Hopefully I'll never have to make dinner for myself ever again. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Sam, anything scary happened to you this week? Well, speaking of men in the 1950s. Great. I have a group of friends that I We have a tradition of celebrating

International Men's Day together There's an International Men's Day? You bet your ass There is, isn't that so funny? Yeah, it's that's every day It's like, yeah It's literally every day That's why it's so funny, and so we felt like we need to go

Celebrate this day together We went to, um, Jumbo's clown room last year. Well, here, listen, Emily. So what happened was I had a nightmare that I, that we had forgotten international men's day. And I woke up and I looked it up and it is today. It's today. And well, I'm so honored to be with you for International Men's Day. That's right. But the scary thing is, of course, that I have some sort of psychic internal clock about International Men's Day. You knew. I knew. So what is it? November 19th? Is that?

Yes. And this episode will come out a little late so a little later so sorry you all missed it you guys did miss it but for next year remember to mark your calendars um or i'll try to tell my dream to kick in a little earlier give me a little more notice because unfortunately my friend that i celebrate with was at a wedding this weekend she was really upset. Oh, God. She was like, how dare they have their wedding on International Men's Day? That's not right. So happy International Men's Day to all of you men out there.

Hope you had a great November 19th, your special day. I got to do something for Joel. You got to. We still have time. Wow. Yeah, so that was pretty scary, but also very funny. I really, really laughed and laughed when I saw that it was this weekend. I was like,

well. Your brain knew? That's what I've been thinking about, I guess, in my subconscious. Very cool stuff. I mean, it is the holiday season, you know. It's the holiday season, and I knew. Yep. And you knew. My favorite holiday was coming up. Oh, boy. Oh, my God.

Okay. Well, should we talk about this week's movie? I guess so. Oh, my gosh. This week we are going to be talking about Terrified. Came out in 2018. It was written and directed by Damian Rugna, starring Maximiliano Gioni,

Noberto Gonzalo, Elvira Oneto, George L. Lewis, Julieta Valina, and Damian Solomon. And it is streaming on Shudder.com. And we have a couple guests with us today. One of them is a man. That's me. Happy International Men's Day.

Thank you. Thank you so much. I did, you know, have to pause all my festivities to join you. Huge. Huge. I made an exception for today. Told the boys to just wait. Boys gotta wait.

We'll get back to the cigar chopping soon. I was going to say, what kind of festivities is that? Like backyard wrestling. Fart competitions. Lots of cigars. Land party. soon i was gonna say what kind of festivities is that like backyard wrestling fart competitions uh uh lots of cigars land party land party sure yeah sure different flavor of men but we're all celebrating that's the beauty of international men's day is yeah all flavors of men are so you know what shout out to all the trans men celebrating international men's day that's right i feel like you get forgotten on this day and it's your day to go.

It's your day to go out there and smoke some cigars and I don't know. Go throw axes at one of those weird bars where you can throw axes. It's your day. Oh, yeah. Go to that. That place you can like smash things that rage room. Oh, yeah. It's your day, boys.

Have fun. Oh, I want to do that. I'll wait for Women's Day. Wait, we got to wait. We got to wait. Today's not for you. It's not for today. James and Chelsea of Dead Meat, thank you guys for joining us.

We are so happy to have you. Thank you. Thank you for having us. I'm excited to be here. Yeah. I was just doing a little stream for patrons earlier today, and I mentioned I was going to be on this, and they all got real excited. You guys have a good reputation among horror fans.

Oh, we love to hear it. Oh my God. Thank you. So don't ruin it. Now you have a... Pressure's on. Exactly. Now we know.

Now we know. Well, did anything scary happen to you guys this week? Oh, okay. So first of all, I'm also a 1950s husband. I cannot cook and I do not enjoy it. It's true. I find it to be one of life's worst, tedious little chores that you have to do every day or you die. It's awful.

Yeah, I hate it. Let's see. Okay, so I just started crocheting a blanket with a bunch of different colors I'm doing kind of like a 70s color schemes I got some like avocado greens and like rusty oranges and yellows love it and I've got one color yarn that I'm using I'm realizing more than the other colors and I might have to go back to the craft store just to get that one color yarn. And that's very scary to me.

Yeah. An errand to the craft store is, it's a whole to do the thing. I need some, some buttons. I got a coat recently and the buttons are really loud and I don't know. It's like, they're made of some sort of tinny cheap thing that just rattles

every step you take and so it's like well i need to replace all these buttons but i don't want to go to a craft store so i feel you yeah especially because it's getting close to christmas and oh it's mayhem total mayhem it's loud in there um i i tend to like the smell of craft stores but if you don't it's even more overwhelming during christmas because everything smells like pine cones i can't step foot in them yeah i can't step foot inside those stores anytime i'm about to spend like 25 on buttons through etsy rather than go and get they should be what like two dollars for four buttons just order some online support a local like a small etsy business and then you can feel better there you go yeah that's scary i'm sorry i'm i wish you the best of luck thank you yeah i guess

i have like the most actual scary thing out of all these stories because i'm just thinking about uh it might have fallen out of the week's uh limit but it was really windy here in la uh a little bit ago and you know i earlier in the day i like went out take out the trash or whatever come back in and i'm at my computer for a good i don't know half hour to an hour and then i leave the office and i see the front doors wide open because i thought i'd closed it but i guess not enough and the wind had blown it open and then we're like okay the dog's always by us where's the cat and i start looking at all the usual spots and the cat's not in any of them i start really freaking out because it's like where where could i'm looking in cabinets

and in the closet and everything and so i put on my my shoes and i run outside i'm running down the block i'm like i don't think the cat would like leave the house i think at this point i'm looking for her and panicking yep where you text our housemates making sure total panic oh yeah when that happens yeah yeah yeah and i'm like and we have like coyotes around here too and hawks and other things that would kill her easily so i i don't think she would go outside i've never seen her like try to and if she did i don't know how far she would get i don't think she'd make it very far but but i'm running down the block i'm looking everywhere she was just sitting in a weird spot that like i just completely overlooked and so i get back inside i see her like damn it lucy

make noise or something when i'm calling for you. And we are obsessed with our cat. Like, it is hard to overstate how much we love our cat. She's going to be 10 years old this next year. And we've had her since she was a baby. And I mean, she's our little baby. She turned James into a cat person. Oh, yeah. Never had a cat before.

The right cat will do that. Yeah. Yeah. They're special creatures and they do get up into some weird spots so it's when you think you might have lost a cat are you done we have four cats and so it's sometimes we're like what they could be anywhere if you leave a drawer a little bit open they could be in that corner Like one of them hides in the like folds Of my partner's pants in his closet

Like she's also six pounds and tiny So it's like where is she? So it's a stressful thing Forget it I'm scared Glad everybody was okay I one of my cats I have two cats that got out

In the last place that I lived They like popped a screen out And I had that like same. That's a nightmare of mine. I know. I was so I never leave windows open. Like we even just got screens installed at our house, but I still, I don't like leaving them open if we're not in the room. I just, I don't trust her. Yeah. And probably shouldn't because my, my boys popped it, popped it right out. And I think it had been a while but i went outside and found um one of them his name is bunk was just sitting frozen in terror like exactly outside of

the window it's like i took a photo of him it's so funny i'll try to remember to to show everybody like he got out and then didn't plan this far ahead yeah he's just like so overwhelmed that he just froze and i had to like come and pick him up oh my god that for them it'd be like punching a hole to the other side of the universe like they just left plato's cave and did not know what to do yeah i mean i'd be fucking scared too yeah but all the kitties are okay yeah scare averted okay well speaking of scary stuff, how do you guys. Well, I know how you feel about horror movies, but tell me about your history with horror movies, your journey.

Yeah. I mean, I've been a horror fan my entire life. I can't remember a time when I wasn't into them thanks to being brought like my parents don't like scary movies. But I did watch Night of the Living Dead as a kid they like that one. That's a classic. It is yeah and then just Scream is a formative memory for me being too scared of it and then coming back a few years later being like yes I can watch you now

and then I think by the time I was 10 my mom had come into the local video store with me and wrote a note and was like he can rent whatever horror movies he wants wrote a note it was like he can rent whatever horror movies he wants on his own i was like thanks mom uh so i'd ride my bike up to the horror or up to the video castle rent all the horror movies i could bring them back and with my two vcr system uh make bootlegs onto blank vhs's and so hell yeah i was doing that you got

a permission slip for movie rentals. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, my parents didn't parent really. So but that was one of the times when it worked out because now it's my job. So I was the opposite as a kid. I was scared of everything. I did not enjoy scary movies as a child. As I got a bit older, you know, I'd watch the classics at sleepovers with my girlfriends. And then in college, I took a horror movie, like history and theory course. And that just like changed my life. That's similar to me. I took a horror class in college as well that like.

Really? Wait, where'd you go to college? It was San Francisco State. And this was just a weekend film class where we just like watched horror movies for the whole first day and then had to write a paper on it the second day. But that was my first kind of like, oh, I really like this. Yeah. Yeah. That definitely totally changed how I viewed the genre. And I just became obsessed with it and yeah and then once we started dating the

first movie we ever watched together was Hellraiser so I love Hellraiser that's a sexy one it is they're horny little guys horny guys oh yeah that's horny horror which I think is finally starting to make somewhat of a comeback

after years of laying dormant yeah we need more we need more horny horror, which I think is finally starting to make some somewhat of a comeback. Yeah. After years of laying dormant. Yeah. We need more. We need more horny horror, please. We really do. We need more horny fill in the blank. You know, I'll just I'll take it off. For real.

Yeah. Like, come on, guys. Life is hard. Make horny content. Exactly. Yep. Yep. Oh, boy.

OK, well, what about what about this movie? I don't know much about it but I I don't think I'm gonna like it It's not horny No it's not There's a strike against There's a naked butt in it Oh yeah there's like a tall naked butt man

A tall Yeah a tall naked man and his butt Okay that's something Is this one that you guys have seen like over and over no we watched it last night for the first time that's why we picked it like let's watch let's watch when we haven't seen so we have an excuse to watch something we haven't seen but i love that this director damien uh yeah he just came out with another film this year called evil when evil lurks and we just covered that on our podcast

and that movie is a friggin i love it it's really great it's very good very graphic i had heard of terrified before yeah but before when i just hadn't seen it and so finally it was like this is the perfect excuse to watch it because we just seen his other movie i think it had the misfortune of being called terrified when terrifier is confusing. Yeah. Yeah. People are like, oh, yeah, I saw it. He's like, no, no, no, no.

This is a different one. It's like how whenever I spit on the ground and talk about how Veronica is the worst horror movie I've ever seen. Veronica. People are like, what's wrong with Veronica? That Spanish found footage film. Like, no, no, that was good. Veronica's good.

Different things. Yeah. We need more letters. Yeah good different things yeah we need more letters yeah right come on guys so yeah when evil lurks uh i felt was was close to a masterpiece i really loved it yeah and so we were excited that movie's very confident and you can tell that i think he really learned a lot from making Terrified. It's a very good second movie. It reminds me of how we both majored in film and after we wrapped any student film

our professor would always say okay, now you're ready to make the film that you just made. You only feel like you're totally ready to make a movie after you just made. You know, it's you only feel like you're totally ready to make a movie after you've made the movie. And watching his two movies back to back. Just to note, he has been making movies since like 2008.

So he has more than just the two. Oh, he does? It's just the others must not have broken through because at least on English language Wikipedia, they don't have links. They don't. So I guess Terrified was the first of his to like get a more international distribution.

I see, that was my mistake then. Yeah, yeah. But still like the jump. There's still I see, that was my mistake then. Yeah, yeah. But still, like the jump. There's still a massive jump, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I was excited that you guys picked this one because same thing I'd seen. I just saw When Evil Lurks because I heard it was so great and also loved it.

Which we will be covering it at some point. Yeah, we'll cover it eventually. Which we will be covering it at some point. Yeah, we'll cover it eventually. Also, when Henley's not here, because we know Henley doesn't like child deaths. And we obviously don't care. There are some in that. They don't bother us, only Henley. And in this.

So just know that. Yeah. But yeah, it had been on my list, bumped to the top of my list since seeing When Evil Lurks. So I was glad that you guys chose it. How did you watch it? I watched it on Shudder. but yeah it had been on my list bumped to the top of my list since seeing when evil lurks so i was glad that you guys chose it how did you watch it i watched on shutter shutter yeah okay i was testing to see if you had shutter because i love it oh yeah you know it's it's i feel like it's gotten uh just there's no upkeep on it i don't think anyone cares about it because it what it now is owned by whoever owns a lot of budgets unfortunately i'm like damn man give

some love to this awesome service and i love its library but yeah sometimes like with this and with when evil works the subtitles are weird sometimes yes i agree there i was noticing that as well um have you guys seen birth rebirth no what is it? That's on Shudder as well. Just a movie I watched last night that was one of the most upsetting things that Henley would simply not survive if she heard the recap of it. So I don't think we'll be doing that one. You said Birth Rebirth? Birth Rebirth. Okay. It's really good, but it is a tough one. Okay. But yeah, also on Shudder. We love Shudder. a tough one okay but yeah also on shutter we love shutter this movie has a 77 on rotten tomatoes a 73 on metacritic and a 6.5 on imdb real standard imdb rating there that's yep that's why every movie basically i can't take imdb seriously because it's six point or seven point

something every movie every single every single that's the range it's it's we're just judging everything on a scale from six to seven on imdb exactly there was no budget or money info available because it didn't come out in theaters so don't have that info it is a shutter original and yeah there just wasn't much trivia for it but like you guys said this was his first internationally distributed feature and so where is he from argentina argentina okay yes so spanish language uh the the spanish in this movie was a lot easier for me to understand than the spanish in when evil lurks i was listening to your guys's when evil lurks episode and i had the same thing because i mean emily emily speaks spanish i'm learning a little bit of spanish and i like to but argentinian spanish is a really specific accent yes exactly it can be pretty

hard to pick up yeah i forget the name of the dialect that people were telling me oh yeah i was reading the comments but it has some like italian influence in it so yeah yeah uh this was again there's also like a a character who apparently is not a native spanish speaker in here but they never address it yeah but his character is like asking like uh tienes uh and the other guy's like miedo and he's like oh yeah tienes miedo and it's like i i don't know why this guy is not a native spanish speaker and they don't address it but i appreciated his slow cadence because it allowed me to address it because they say he's done like stuff in the states like it's similar to oh okay oh yeah he was like the uh the fellow doctor that they brought yeah okay that makes sense yeah they say he's had experience

other places so yeah okay yeah yeah but i had the same exact Thing in when evil lurks I was like I'm gonna be able to understand some of this stuff and then I was like wait is this Spanish like Right I don't I'm Not understanding anything yeah Oh I I think Supernatural horror is my favorite

To hear about I don't know why That is but I Feel like it's been a while since we've done I think just because To find to get like a genuinely to hear about. I don't know why that is, but I feel like it's been a while since we've done. I think just because to find, to get like a genuinely very scary supernatural film,

I think of a lot of them as being like pretty hokey. It's like hard to like really pull that off, I feel like for whatever reason. So when we do a supernatural horror that's like that I'm told is actually very, very scary.

I get excited. Are you a skeptic or do you believe in the supernatural both okay um i think like yeah i think the universe is vast yeah no no that's kind of where i'm at too where i'm like how how could i know i'm just always interested in hearing because some people are like, oh, the things that really scare me are the realistic films like The Strangers or things that can really happen. And then other people are like, oh, yeah, I can watch those all day. I won't mess around with ghosts or demons or anything. And I was like seeing who feels that way and why, whether it's because they truly believe in that stuff or what. believe in that stuff or what but yeah i've always said that with demons and ghosts i can't rationalize when i'm in bed that they won't be in the house with me because i have bars on my

windows i'm like a man's not getting in here but a demon could sammy yeah don't say that on international men's day true men can do anything yeah there's like no rules with demons or ghosts you know that's what's scary about it yeah i just think it's like that's something i mean obviously like i don't want the other stuff either but there's something like you know supernatural it's like it's it's when you're it's at night and it's in your home and it's like under your sheets or in your shower places where it's like should be safe and personal and private. And like, I don't know. It just like feels like such a violation that you can't do anything about. Mm hmm. I don't know. I'm excited now. Maybe maybe I'll regret saying that. But in this moment,

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So we start, we're in Buenos Aires and there is a woman named Clara doing dishes and there's some noises something within the drain is breathing the bubble is moving like a breath with like it's very creepy it's an audio jump scare here when she turns the faucet oh yeah we're off to a great start her turning on the sink made me jump oh yeah i jumped a lot in this movie great a lot of great jump scares. It's very unsettling and her husband comes home and she has been she couldn't cook dinner just like us. She said she heard

what she hears voices in the kitchen. Well, that's what I'm going to say next time. There you go. There's your excuse. I couldn't cook those voices. Her husband's name is juan and the he says you know maybe it's walter our neighbor he's always he's been fixing his house up lately it's we've it's been kind of noisy um she says i know what i heard it was voices he says okay what were they saying she says they said they were gonna kill me title terrified yeah they have a weird uh we see kind of a weird slice of a conversation in this because he also mentions hey remember that dog we ran over today it came back apparently it's fine like it's alive

so that's good news and it's like whoa like what yeah rewind a tiny bit but and i don't know even even because i forgot about that line and you bring it up now and i even after seeing the rest of the movie i don't know if it i mean it's it's relevant because it's that's kind of what happens with oh with it with the kings in this movie and weirdly in when evil lurks too it's a similar kind of thing there are similarities yeah um so now we cut to it's the uh early early morning like five in the morning clara is waking up to use the bathroom one hears a banging on their wall and bangs back thinking it's walter like keep it down it's too early for you to be fixing stuff I share walls with three

neighbors and I there's like constant banging like from the ceiling and one on the side and one on the front and so it's basically constant and I did not like this it's like a 4D experience for me

do you also go outside in your underwear to yell through the intercom at your neighbor like Juan does here? I sure do not. I just cower in fear and anger. So, yeah, Juan goes out and he's buzzing the little call box to Walter, telling him, like, shut up, stop banging. telling him like, shut up, stop banging. The banging is continuing and he goes back into his house and he passes the bathroom where his wife is now taking a shower, it sounds like. And he's like, yeah, I told him to be quiet, but he's so annoying. And then he hears more banging and realizes it's coming from the bathroom. It's like the way the sound is the direction it's coming from confuses him. He turns back and he calls out to her.

Clara, are you making the banging noises? And he peeks into that bathroom around the corner and we see bloody hand prints and marks all over the walls and he takes a

further step in and we see clara's body just being flung side to side in the shower she's floating oh my god yeah she's floating and it's great it almost looks like an invisible being maybe has her by the neck and it's just hitting her back and forth across the shower and this body shit it's got this got to be a practical body because this thing looks like a crash test dummy full of strawberry jelly and it is just slammed over and over into this bathroom tile wall and just like oh it's gross and from having seen two of his movies damien rogna does not cut away from stuff no like you're gonna see every you are watching those impacts over and over not about the i'm gonna let you imagine it no he's showing you everything and he does it so

well is what makes him so impressive because often it can feel a little almost like a weird letdown if you actually see what's happening if it's not done just right it's almost scarier to not see but no he i think it's because of the practical Yes, I think it's just like it looks like such a lifeless body being slammed against the wall. And so he like after being frozen for a minute, tries to stop her and like grabs her and tries to bring her down. Still moving. And and eventually he's like holding his wife's dead body and her blood is everywhere. And we're like, dude, you're going to jail. You're going to jail.

This does not look good, my man. Yeah. He was holding her neck, trying to get her to stop. Dude, no one's going to believe that you did not murder your wife. Or clearly you were grabbing her neck. And it's like, no, you don't understand. A demon was slamming her head against the wall. I was just trying to make it stop.

Classic. Brutal. was slamming her head against the wall and i was just trying to make it stop classic brutal yeah so we cut to him being interrogated by three people who we at first think are maybe police officers but then they say something like we know that you didn't kill your wife and we need to find certain proof or whatever but like we've had other occurrences basically that we've been investigating and tell us everything you can remember from the past two weeks in your neighborhood if anything weird has happened yeah they're kind of ghostbusters yeah demon busters demon busters is it a demon are they ghosts are the demons i'm not yeah that's a little i'm a lot less clear on what the supernatural stuff is in this movie versus like when evil lurks you get a pretty solid picture like okay this is what we're dealing

with this feels a bit ambiguous like yeah yeah which is fine i kind of wonder if i can't tell if these maybe take place in the same kind of universe or if it's just fine. I kind of wonder if, I can't tell if these maybe take place in the same kind of universe or if it's just a style thing. I kind of had that feeling too. Yeah. Specifically because of, there's some like kind of ghost,

either detection or hunting tools that the one woman uses that look very similar to something in When Evil Lurks. Yeah. I noticed that as well. But yeah, so Juan says he's thinking back to strange things that have been occurring.

And he does say, well, there was an accident outside of my house. And my neighbor, Walter, was very upset. He was remodeling his house at strange hours of the day. And then now we're flashing back to Walter in the past and he's looking exhausted and stressed. He's at work and he's calling a specialist for help, Dr. Albrecht, and he's trying to get an appointment with her. The receptionist is saying like, she can't see you. She can't see you. And he's certain she's the only one who's going to be able to help him.

He's spoken to other specialists and they've all given her given him this number but dr albrecht is not not taking his call so he goes home he goes to bed in his jeans absolutely insane i'm sorry did anything any weird activity in the last two weeks yeah sleeping yeah sleeping in my outside clothes which are jeans in my twin bed my twin you know what twin bed threw me i know lots of small beds in this movie but i do i will admit that in high school i would just go to sleep in my jeans and outside clothes man i would just pass out i also though slept on a mattress on the floor in the basement so that was kind of weird sure that does feel like a very teen boy thing though you're like yeah but you just you're barely keeping it together. And Walter is not a teen boy.

He's a grown ass man. So he should maybe know a little better. But and what the actor who plays Walter, I believe, is one of the brothers in When Evil Lurks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's fun. Yes. He's Jaime.

Yeah, he is. I feel like he is hot. He looks like Scoot McNary to me. Oh, you've told me about this actor. Strong eyebrows. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I like him. Get into those bed jeans.

Bed jeans. So he's, yeah, I mean, he looks like he's not doing well. He seems very scared in his home. He's in his bed, in his twin bed with his jeans on and he's peeking under the bed he's like looking uh lifting the blankets up to look under i think seems like it's there he keeps the blanket up as he gets up to go brush his teeth and we see from the pov of under the bed something pulls the blanket back down yeah there's a great shot of him in bed he leans over and looks under the bed and there's nothing and then the camera starts to tilt back up with him as he's coming back up to the bed something something under the bed just

kind of rolls into the light just as the camera's like moving past it's wonderful very creepy classic though like he doesn't realize he's he's technically sharing a bed with someone else, but they are like any couple in that they fight over who gets more of the blanket. Yes. Yes. There is a little push and pull happening here. Specifically, his bed is being pushed around in the night. He comes back after brushing his teeth, and his bed seems like it's moved a little bit,

and he moves it back and then it's he's in it and it's moving on its own and he's like something's definitely here with me he hides under the blankets we see a shadow of a hand reaching for him it's very scary and we cut away we see him waking up the next morning, hearing some banging. All of his furniture has moved around in the night. It's like basically all been pushed to the center of the room, like around his bed. Maybe they just wanted to paint his walls. It really is like one of those like Reddit threads about a terrible roommate.

You know, like my roommate keeps rearranging all the furniture in the middle of the night. I've asked him to stop a hundred times. He won't stop. He's always walking around naked. And we see him going through this routine again of calling Dr. Albrecht, like speaking to the receptionist, begging again, please, please, please. I've I've seen something. And she says something like we can't dr albert can't get involved without proof and he's like how am i supposed to get proof

and so he goes and he buys a camcorder and he's gonna videotape himself sleeping classic yeah we love it that's that's paranormal activity that's always an exciting movie horror movie trope is i'm gonna film myself while i'm sleeping and see what scary stuff it's so scary gets me so scary oh my god it's so tragic that he can't get a hold of this like doctor i don't know what else to call her she's a ghost doctor uh but it kind of again i think damien rugna is really interested in in like bureaucracy and the frustration of trying to get help from the one person or entity that you know can help you and getting stuck in like a phone tree or, you know, customer service that sucks or just government that doesn't care. And obviously, like she's not a fraud or a disbeliever because she's one of the doctors who. She shows up. Yeah.

She's one of the three who visited one. And it's too late for Walter. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe she's visiting one because it was like, oh, I didn't I didn't respond in time to help Walter. But yeah, because he he sets it up to record him sleeping. And I think he goes to sleep and then wakes up and it's on the ground. And he's like, oh, something knocked over this camera let me see maybe if there's some evidence

of it and he starts he starts reviewing the footage and it's a tall naked guy like standing next to his bed looking at him sleeping which is always what you want to see when you record yourself sleeping take his eye level yeah he's basically getting t-bagged by a demon and uh it's uh then this thing like turns around and walks into his wardrobe. And that's what knocks the camera over. So he's like, he just looks up and is looking at his wardrobe and it's closed doors. And he goes to get a gun. And he is slowly approaching the wardrobe, opens it.

It's empty. He moves all the clothes around, looks if anything's hiding in the back. It's empty. So he goes back to the camera and he's looking at it and he's reviewing the footage some more. He sees, he like rewinds and goes back to see the freaky guy crawling out from underneath the bed to watch him. It's really gross. And as he's watching this, we see now the wardrobe doors opening again that guy coming out and he notices it through the reflection of on the gun i think he like

sees the movement behind him but it's too late. And the creature thing, it's like human ish, but it's like a lurch. It's like a naked lurch. Yeah. Yeah. And it reaches the gun before him and we cut away and we don't see what happens there,

but it does seem good. No, no. Next is when it's the little kid outside. Right. And some little kids playing soccer as you do and and kicks the ball into walter's yard and goes to get the ball and also drink from the hose because hose water is the best i think this is the last time we see walter because i think walter's the one

who's like hey it is yeah you don't really see him you like see him through the cracks of his blinds because he's like hey quit drinking my good hose water kid that's mine uh get out of here and the kid like he's like all right i'm sorry and he backs up into the street and it's still it's that clip from the trailer that kid just gets mowed down by a bus man he gets final destinations right there yeah game game over for that little kid and something i thought was funny is the bus driver like flees the scene did you guys get out of the bus i think he's still running i didn't notice the bus driver running Yeah he got out and Started heading for Brazil I guess

But the rest of it's like it's a Small little neighborhood the rest of the Residents are coming out of their homes And seeing The dead boy laying in the street And Juan And what's her name I forgot clara clara yeah they instantly know whose kid it is so they start yelling for the mom right across the street

neighbors oh god alicia is that the mom yeah so yeah then we see the mother in mourning probably i think after the funeral everyone's wearing black she looks completely devastated and kind of catatonic almost like she's being led to her home and we see juan and clara comforting her um then we cut to a character named yano he gets a phone call in the middle of the night from someone named Funes. Funes. Funes. And we recognize Yano is also one of the three people that was interviewing Juan in the earlier scene.

So this is, you know, still before that in time. But he wakes up to this phone call and funa says you need to see this uh something is happening that i feel like i can't explain type of thing and like i've i know you're the kind of person that would maybe be able to explain what's happening yeah because when he gets there he's like nothing scares you right and i was like yeah i guess not yeah let's see what do you got yeah funes is like a local sheriff right like he's a cop yeah captain i think was his rank captain funes and he's he's like two weeks from retirement classic oh yeah he just he just wants to get out of there he's young to people he says he has like

medical issues right i think so younger so. He's a younger guy, but he's still, he's retiring soon. But he's at least doing this 15 years because Hano is like, I've been working with Funes for 15 years. And Funes is a character who, he's just, he always has his gun out. Like whenever anything supernatural happens

in the movie, he pulls out his gun. He's like, I'm going to shoot this ghost. Yeah, yeah. We'll see how that works out for him uh they arrive at alicia's house and he kind of reveals that they have some sort of romantic history um he's cared about her in the past and is is worried about her and, you know, we're going to see what's happening here because something is not right. And leads Yano to the dining room of this home and reminds him beforehand, like, you know, her son died five days ago or something.

And we had the funeral service. We buried him. Turn around the corner. He's sitting at the dining room table yeah and not like he does not look like oh he came back to life and he's normal no no this is like a little dirt boy it's just like honestly the imagery of this little boy like yeah there are there are jump scares that got me good in this but in terms of like imagery and things that i'm still thinking about it's this little boy and the way that he looks and the way that they frame him and the way he's

sitting that honestly is so scary to me so scary it's hard to keep something scary when you have the camera staying on it most scares happen from a a sudden movement or sound or like a quick look and then it cuts away but the camera holds on this kid yeah and it's scary the whole way through he's like i mean his skin is like dark gray he's just covered he's just sitting at the dining room table just kind of like posed like he's not moving and that's what's creepy just completely still i think it could have been they could have you know done like zombie kid sure that's spooky but what's freaky to me is how he just sits there and we don't see him move ever and they're like but he might still be alive or not they're they're

like some of the other cops saw him moving but he's not moving now and and and hano takes like a spoon and puts it below the kid's nose to see if there's like up the spoon with breath and it doesn't and so they're like all right i guess it's it's not moving i don't know and they turn around start to leave and then they hear a noise and they turn uh they turn around and the glass of milk that was next the kid is spilled over like he knocked it over but he's still not moving cookies in front of him which is also very creepy just in case yeah this kid's really scary yeah this kid's nasty's nasty. It's very scary. And Hano's like looking at his fingernails and you see that it looks as if he has dug himself out of a grave. Like his fingers are all fucked up. And but he's completely still like as if he is a corpse.

But there's muddy footprints and handprints like leading to where he is. And also his mom. When you first see her, you're like, why is she kind of just like dirty? prints and hand prints like leading to where he is. And also his mom. When you first see her, you're like, why is she kind of, she's like dirty. Like she's got like smudges on her face and arms. Oh, cause she was like hugging him. Yeah, she would have been like hugging him and kissing him. But they're not sure if she went

and dug him up. Right. Exactly. That's the most reasonable explanation. So that's what they think. This is just a literal corpse. Cause I was like, when they were like, oh, let's see if he's breathing. No, he's not's what they think. This is just a literal corpse. Yeah. Because I was like, when they were like, oh, let's see if he's breathing. No, he's not. Okay, fine.

I'm like, what does that answer for us? Yeah. Maybe the mom's a bereaved mom. Yeah. And they think the other cops are maybe just imagining stuff. Or yeah. Yeah. God.

I got it. Got it. Okay. Yeah. So they just leave this kid sitting there for a while. Yeah. Because that other kid. Is this one the other kid?

The neighbor kid? Not yet. First, Tano goes outside. He's like something. He thinks something is up here. He's like he's not fully writing it off as just the mom. But that is a possibility. But he thinks, you know, maybe there is something more going on here. He has experienced.

Yes. Corpses coming back to life back to life in his line of work. We are learning that he is some sort of paranormal investigator. And he steps outside for some fresh air or something and sees a woman across the street taking photos. And we find out this is Dr. Albrecht Who Walter was calling And I guess Now he has Sent her the footage But it's too late

We don't really know He seems like he's not there anymore Because she's like at his house Taking pictures right But hasn't been let inside But it's right across the street from Alicia's house. So Hano is like, oh, you think this is weird? Let me show you this.

And takes her over to Alicia's house. And she notes that on the outside of the house, going up the wall and even on the ceiling of like the porch cover, are footprints and handprints from the kid. So I don't know what this kid was doing climbing up a wall or something because that doesn't really get too explored but he's he's a little creepy crawler i feel like it's so much more effective though to just show him in his still state like can you imagine if we had seen him crawling up around there it would have been

cheesy and dumb yeah for sure him just standing there sitting there still. And that's when this other kid is the right. Yeah. Well, this other kid, like a neighbor kid, kicks a ball over there or like he's he his toys are in that backyard. So it sounds like these two kids were like best friends. I think there's a shot of the other kid after the first one after he gets hit by a bus. I think we see this other kid like traumatized and having witnessed it. bus i think we see this other kid like traumatized and having witnessed it but he goes into this backyard to like collect his toys that are there and he looks into the the window and sees his friend's corpse sitting at the table and obviously that's not going to register as a dead body to him

his kid so he's like knocking on the window and then this dead little kid corpse slowly turns and looks at his friend outside the window. It's pretty creepy. Yeah. And he gets spooked and like drops some stuff he was carrying. His backpack and everything and just runs away. Yeah. Yeah. He screams and runs off.

And Hano and Dr. Albrecht hear that. They were like in the other room and they they come in and see like someone has been in here the boy has moved there's now more footprints and so they're like we got to move the body and they put him in a big freezer in the backyard yeah when they just stick a potted plant on top just like that'll be heavy you know even though they think or they know that this kid dug himself out of his own grave. I don't know why they think putting just kind of a heavy-ish plant on top of it. Yeah, it's like a Legend of Zelda-like pot that you push up and put on top there. So Hano tells Funes to bury the kid back in the cemetery.

Take him back to the cemetery and bury him. In concrete. Cover it with concrete this time. Yeah. Turn him into a street. Get him in there good. Yeah. And now we cut back to Juan being interviewed by the three people after his wife dies.

And basically now we're all up to speed at the same point. So this is like Them saying we know things have been Happening in this neighborhood And we need your permission To investigate your House and so if you can sign this

Paperwork the three of us It's the it's Hanno Albrecht and another guy Rosen Rosen talk And they are paranormal investigators and they want to go stay in these houses where the incidents have occurred and investigate and so he signs it sure she's there's telling him you know we can find proof hopefully that you didn't murder your wife

so i think he's in prison for murdering his wife yeah yeah that's where you that's where you'd be yeah yeah makes a lot of sense after this the movie it takes kind of an insidious term where it's like yeah investigators like really there's even like a lynch a kind of character yeah yes yeah so uh i didn't expect. I kind of thought that we were going to keep exploring this neighborhood with different cases of the hauntings and stuff like that and visiting these different characters. And I'm not I may have wanted that more because I didn't expect it to become this like investigation thing. I do think this is when the movie slows down a bit for me. Like I was feeling this kind of last third or whatever, like half third. Yeah. Like it just, I don't know.

I think it's a lot of we're waiting around for scary stuff to happen. Yeah. I kind of like it more when it's people in the dark who this stuff is happening to, as opposed to these three investigators who like know something's up and are trying to like scientifically find out how to do it. And, you know, I bet if I watched it again, knowing that that's where it goes, that I would maybe enjoy it more or like, yeah, you just I'd be expecting it more. But since I wasn't i was like oh this is we're still doing this you know like an hour in it's hard when you start with a woman being like flung around her shower yeah it's like that's a those are some high stakes to start off with for sure and there's no like protagonist in this movie which is interesting so yeah yeah like

juan we we kind of like leave behind in the jail and Walter disappears. So it's like, oh, now we're now we're watching these people. OK, I guess so. I thought they were just going to be kind of off to the side. Yeah. So it is unconventional. But so, OK, they're they're now going to stay in these three homes. The three homes being Walter's, Juan and alicia's right yeah okay they're basically

taking one each funas is with rosentalk and i don't i don't know who's in whose house doesn't really matter too much i think hano is in alicia's yes i think you're right oh yeah because um he's he's watching across the street through the. Yeah. Yeah. I know they're across. I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know how much it. It doesn't really matter. It matters. But yeah, they're just split up in. OK. In these houses. The three scenes of the crime. Yes.

Yes. So the like shower floating body, the creepy kid and the naked guy under the bed are the three different houses. Okay. We see in the house that Rosenthal and Funes are in, there's something in the kitchen where all the silverware looks like it's magnetically being drawn up. It's like dangling from below a cabinet. Dude, I wish that I could store my silverware this way because it's just like hanging just have it there so day dude an earthquake are you kidding me that but if the magnet's strong enough then all you gotta do is like oh i need a fork pluck

and just pluck it off there i think i feel like those exist well they do for knives at least you know i feel like oh you have a little knife bars. Yeah. We have some of those. Yeah. But you're right. I feel like it is. There is something a little scary about that also. Yeah. Well, I mean, it could. This could happen. But a spoon could be OK. Yeah.

Spoons can be good. Not giant knives, which one a giant knife goes right through. Rose and Todd. Yeah. He's like, hey, check this out, man. And then like the knife goes through his hand into the uh the bottom of the cupboard that's above it and then he's like yo do you hear that sucking noise something sucking my blood and sure enough the blood from his hand is going up into the cupboard yeah there's

something in there just like you just hear this and rosentalk is seeming very chill about this for having just been been stabbed in the hand And something's drinking his blood He's like, there's maybe like a covered gremlin in here I don't know what he thinks is going on But he's really excited He's excited by it And he's saying to Funes

I think this might be the nest Or he's maybe calling Dr. Albrecht And to Funes Funes takes out a gun. Well, that sounds really bad. And I don't know why you're so stoked on this. They tend to his hand and wrap it up and

realize through this that whatever these things are like blood. And so he tells Funes to go clean up the blood from him being stabbed in the hand. There's like blood splatter around the kitchen. And so Funes goes into, uh,

mop some of that up and. They never see what was in the cupboard. He opens the drawer and like, it's nothing's there. I don't know if it just ran away or what, but yeah, cause I was excited to see what was going on, but.

Yeah, we don't get it. We don't get to see, um, Funes is freaking out. He says, I'm terrified. Name of the movie.

Yep. We both, we both pointed. We're like, he said it, he said the movie. Um, he calls Hano and he's saying like,

I got to get out of here. This isn't my, like, I can't, I can't do this. I have my health condition. My pay grade. Yeah.

My pay grade yeah my pay grade hano is looking across the street into the window of walter's place that they're in and is saying like well where are you are you in the kitchen is that there's a guy standing right by the window but that's not you is it it's so great you can describe it it's like it standing right by the window, but that's not you. Is it? It's so great. You can describe it. It's like, is it the naked guy? It's like a big old pale.

He's looking at, so he sees this window across the street and he's looking through one window pane and he's there. But then when he moves his head, he disappears. It's like one of those lenticular pictures where it like shifts. So he keeps like shifting side to side. And he's seeing as he shifts the, the being in the window across in the house across the street like appear

disappear appear disappear he's like this is really weird uh and then it's like disappeared and he moves and that's right in front of him like right and i like i had my hand on your leg and i grabbed it so hard i'm like grabbing my leg scared me more than the movie. Yeah, that was the biggest scare for me. It was just a well-constructed scare. Me too. I flew out of my seat. There's another scare coming up that I liked even more.

Ooh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we cut away to now back to Rosentalk has discovered something that he wants to show Funes, who's still like trying to get out of there, but for some reason is. I know, he's like, I want to get out of here. But also, I guess I'll see. All right, I'll see what you have to say. I think it just feels like a giant wimp because they're like,

you don't have to be here if you don't want. I think he just is too macho about it. Yeah. And also he has an emotional attachment to yeah true that's true yeah uh so rosentalk lifts up this is now walter's bed that uh we know the naked man had been sleeping under and he lifts up the blanket uh on the side of the bed says nothing under there right and funa says yeah what what's what do you mean and he's like it's about perspective it's not empty and he moves to the foot of the bed and lifts up the blanket there and we see some nasty little feet like crawling crawling away to try to hide back

further it's like the grinch tiptoeing across the floor. Ew! Yeah, it's very dirty feet. And there's a very light explanation of what is happening. Rosentalk says, darkness, light, two realities sharing the same space and time.

It's all about your perspective. Or no, it depends on the point of view. He's thrilled about this. or no it depends on the point of view so that's kind of all we're thrilled about this yeah he's he's so happy about it yeah that's about as much as they explain i think um uh albrecht explains to like reality is kind of like a like like an orange where like each slice is like a different kind of dimension. So we're just getting some overlapping dimensions, I think. But we don't really get any solid answers

for what's going on. Which is probably for the best. I feel like sometimes that ruins it. Yeah. And doesn't he look under the bed? And so we have the feet near us and the legs going into the distance. And then from over there, you see the head.

Yeah. So he's in like impossible positions and then and then he like charges out from even closer yeah it's very hard to describe because it's all very like it's like mc escher made a person yeah it's bizarre yeah and so funas freaks out runs out of there

it seems like he's maybe having a heart attack we're getting like this sound design of his heart beating way too fast. He's breathing really heavily. It's not looking good. And he's running to the house where Hano is. And he goes in there. And Hano is nowhere to be seen. He's calling out for him, looking around, and we

hear something in a cabinet. Is this around when we finally realize that Funes is deaf in at least one ear? Because he takes out his hearing aid. I don't know why he takes it out. It's... I was a bit

confused here as to why he decides to remove it at this moment he might have fallen it might have fallen off okay but i can't remember closer to this cabinet and then he sees yeah the cabinet's kind of like moving like someone's knocking on the inside and he just starts ripping it apart and he kind of sees like hano's head what is he he's like he's basically he's yelling at him to get him out of there yeah he's like get me out of here he says there's glass splinters in my eyes yeah and you see his eyes are bleeding yeah oh it's real gross um but he had uh funas had opened

the front of the cabinet first and it was empty and had just like heard more noises and so had to rip off the side paneling so we're seeing again this like it's not visible from one way but it is from the other way with kind of no real reason as to why that is but it is creepy he goes to tell albrecht about what he saw and she's like yeah but you can't really trust what you see here because like i'm looking into this crack in the wall and I'm seeing Walter over there. And she yeah, there's like a crack in the wall. And she's like, Walter, what are you doing in there? That guy who was calling her, he's like and he's he's distant inside the wall.

I forget if he's like what positioning he's in, but it doesn't look like he's he's going to be coming out. And she's just like she's like she like props up a chair and is like sitting there just staring at this way too casually in front of this huge crack in the wall with like entities in it yeah and then as she's talking to funa as this very long arm reaches out of that crack in the wall with really long fingers and it grabs her head and just like just breaks her neck yeah yeah that's another jump she's like yeah it's just so funny because she's like what you see tonight probably isn't real and then her head gets cracked open by it gets her neck cracked yeah uh and then yeah i think what funes is kind of like crawling away from this, this thing, right? This is when like, there's a lot happening at once.

Yeah. He's crawling away. Oh, there's like a great shot where, when he's crawling away, um, where we see the like long skinny naked guy, presumably crawling out of the wall or maybe Walter, I don't know, but one of the little entities crawling out of the hole in the wall where Dr. Albrecht was and the camera pans around and he's again like possibly having a heart attack it's uh we hear the sound design i think is is uh factoring in his hearing aid and falling out and him also having a

heart attack so it just is like really uh intense and as the camera pans to the side of him the thing disappears and you can't like see it from that angle and then the camera pans back up and you see it just like crawling closer and closer to him oh god that's so scary yeah is this one he makes out of the house and drives away. Well, real fast. First, what happened to Rosenthal? Because Hano was in the cabinet and Albrecht got her neck broken. What happened to Rosenthal? There's like a very brief shot of Rosenthal in Walter's room still and the cabinet opening behind him.

Yes, you're right. But we don't see what happens. So it's implied that that uh like the big tall naked guy got him yeah uh because because yeah funes goes outside and doesn't he see alicia there with a car or uh and she's like he's like i gotta get out of here and she just walks to her car and is like get in yeah and he starts to get in this is my favorite scare in this whole movie is when he's in the car and we're seeing out the window wait no no this he doesn't get in this car because remember right he sees in

the back seat of her car is the kid is little little dirt corpse boy you're right okay this is a different and he's like i'm not gonna carpool with that i'm not getting in this thing and elise is like all right she's yelling at him she's, you poured concrete on my son. Why would you do that? Why could, how would you do this? You made everyone think I was crazy. And she clearly this time did go and dig up her son and is now, yeah, driving around with him. You stay away from me and my son. Never talk to me or my weird corpse son ever again.

Oh my God. But then, yeah. So then funas gets into i guess probably his car and your favorite scare this is the scare that i fucking love so he's in his car and we're seeing out of his window and we're seeing kind of a house in the background and we see like a figure running at the car and it's hard to tell what it is at first, but it's Albrecht. And she's I don't know how to describe it. She is literally let me just demonstrate for this podcast. This is all for me.

She's literally like. That's her head, but her body is facing forward, right? Yeah, it's like a twisted back bend over kind of backwards and is running at the car and it's so just like runs into the window it reminded me of that scare and smile that reminded me of the trailer spoiled yeah yeah yeah but uh it's a great scare because because unlike smile where it's like a jump scare here you see it come from the background still really scary yeah i love it and so obviously he gets out of there screaming at him you still have time we're being tortured yeah horrifying yeah so then that's when he gets

gasoline right he comes back doesn't he get like a bunch of gasoline and oh yeah he's like i'm just gonna burn this just burn it down just hey i mean why not try yeah yeah yeah yeah and he yeah he burns it down and it kind of cuts away and we go back to one now in presumably present day with new police officers there right like how is how is the investigation going did you guys prove i didn't kill my wife meanwhile his entire block is burnt down and yeah things are bad yeah the the three people that you were there with one of them has is like a gray corpse with glass sticking out of his eyes and the other ladies bent in half back. Well, like it's just, it's not good, dude. Sorry. You're in jail forever.

He does say, shows him a picture of Funes and he's like, do you recognize this person? He is the person we suspect burnt down the block and we can't find him. So he, maybe he's the guy to blame. Maybe he murdered your wife. He's a fugitive. You know, obviously, we know that's not true, but that's what all they have to go on is this guy who burnt the block down that's now missing, I guess. And as they're telling this to him, Juan is looking over their shoulders at someone or something that we're not seeing and they notice this and kind of get confused and he

Juan says did you bring him and points to a spot in the corner we all look there's nothing there and Juan looks back down at the photographs on the table of um the three people he was talking to earlier that they brought with and he points to and he says that's him his his face is burned but that's him the furniture a chair moves in that corner of the room like slides slides to the side

and they're all looking and juan says he came with you he came he came in with you and they turn and look and the chair flies at the screen and that's the end of the movie this yeah rose on top like yeets the chair at the camera malignant style yeah like have some credits yeah so not damn a lot of answers there i don't know if we mentioned there is like some theory that the the water is part has something to do with who gets infected because the kid drank the water we saw walter brushing his teeth and the woman in the shower so towards the end of the movie you see they're all drinking from bottled water they like switch

to bottled water interesting but it's not super explicitly laid out I think There's just one moment where Albrecht is like Water is I don't know An easy thing to travel It helps travel To a different dimension or something it's just Oh yeah he does say something Like that yeah just like okay If you say so

Oh I feel like Like particularly when you mentioned Like insidious I feel like The presence of Experts Makes you think Well they'll get The upper hand

At some point Right Like they'll get Fucked around with Some There'll be some casualties Maybe but like Eventually

They'll come out of this Right Or like poltergeist Poltergeist Yeah Yeah or like Conjuring or like They you know

And so then to have it be like nope they just get tortured forever in another dimension it's just like that's so scary yeah and that's again like damien rugna that's such like a when evil lurks deals with the same thing even when it's like okay finally we have some experts here who are doing something and they're gonna save the day no it's still you know it's like, okay, finally, we have some experts here who are doing something and they're going to save the day. No, it's still, you know, it's like a private entity or a public like it's yeah the failure of people and groups to it's probably a big fan of the wire for sure it's like the breakdown of the system kind of yeah um and wow i know you guys mentioned in your when evil lurks episode that he's like not a religious person.

And I feel like so often in these kind of possession-y movies, the answer is like in Conjuring and I think Insidious also. It's like, God, all you have to do is, you know, believe in God. Yes, yeah, the Warrens are religious people. And Damien Rugna is not going to go that route. Yeah, his kind of ghosts and creatures feel very weirdly scientifically based, even though it's not real science. The fact that you can measure them with equipment that is kind of fantastical looking. It's almost like steampunk looking equipment to measure these ghosts. And that's the fact that they theorize they maybe travel through water like it's it's like there's an explanation for everything we just don't you

know there's it's like a new science like we're the people learning it right now so it feels like believable that it's like we don't have all the facts yet but this is real but here's the evidence we've collected so far yeah yeah well and like I feel like again knowing Nothing about this and people I'm going to spout A bunch of bullshit about dimensions and But it's like It does feel like okay well that's Maybe possible right like there are we

We're in multiple dimensions and things can Like brush up against each other and I feel like I've Heard that as an explanation for paranormal Activity before and like To have that be Happening in real time and also like the chaos of that for them to be like, that's what it is. Doesn't mean it helps us at all. Like, look, they're not really real, but they actually could come out and snap my neck and then I'm dead. And I'm it's like, that's so scary.

Yeah, he's it's kind of like the horror movie version of do you know do you know flatland the kind of carl sagan thought uh experiment or at least the way that he explains um dimensions it's very it's a great clip from cosmos but basically he's like the reason we as people we can't even fathom there being like a fourth dimension right because we exist in the third dimension right if you let's say there's a place called flatland where everything is two dimensions and a three-dimensional object suddenly shows up like to these two-dimensional beings they would have no way to comprehend right like what that is and it would pass through flatland one little plane at a time and it would just be this weird and it kind of reminds me of only seeing these ghosts or things

at a certain angle you know it's these weird slices of like what am i even looking at you know and not being able to fathom that yeah yeah yeah oh um i also was wondering if because there's this might not be right but there the moment where uh funes is having a heart attack it seems and there's a creature like right next to him and it leaves him it doesn't like go for him because we do see that some of the entities whatever they are go into the bodies of people. And I don't know if they were just like, oh, his body is breaking down right now. He's having a heart attack. So we'll just leave him.

It's like of no use to us. I don't know. Just like it didn't make sense. That's the only reason I could think of why it like left him alone right then. Because he. Yeah, that's the only reason i could think of why it like left him alone right then because he yeah that's interesting like why leave him alone but not a kid that just got flattened by it yeah yeah so i was a little surprised that he made it out of that one it wasn't looking good yeah i haven't had time to read like reddit theories on this movie yet but i'm looking forward to that i mean even talking about it Made me like it did

Make it make a little bit more sense to Kind of yeah to be like oh yeah just to reframe Things yeah Yeah oh and speaking of that I feel like yeah like We mentioned about the dog in the beginning I feel like that must be a similar Thing that they thought they killed a dog

And the dog came back to life Probably Same as the kid did Yeah yeah similar thing that they thought they killed a dog and the dog came back to life probably the same as the kid same yeah yeah but yeah it's like fun that that little detail is not it's not really ever explained there's a lot of things that are just dropped in and just add to like the atmosphere rather than feel like they're spelling things out for you i really like i felt like with when evil lur. I really like, I felt like with When Evil Lurks, I felt like his world building reminded me of John Wick, where it's like, you're just kind of dropped into the world

and everyone knows that there's the continental. Everyone knows the rules already. And I'm not going to explain the rules to you, but we all know them. Yeah, that is cool. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. I'm a fan.

I'm excited to see what he does next. Mm-hmm. I also saw that there, I couldn't figure out if this is actually happening, but there are articles about an English language remake of Terrified, which you hate to see. Was it by Guillermo del Toro? Yeah. What? He's producing it. Yeah, he's producing it. And it's also directed

by Damien Ruggna. So that's interesting. More promising. That's interesting. How often does that happen? Because I think of funny games. It's just funny games is the only one I can think of. I can't think of any other instances where the same person has remade their film in two different

languages. That's a small club. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.'t i don't know if that's happening or not there hasn't been recent news on it he's also said that he would like to do a sequel that picks up right where this one leaves off i think he said he's even written a script for it but so he'll have something coming he's going to be doing something when evil lurks the word of mouth of that thing is i think he's gonna be uh sitting in a pretty good position at the end of this year yeah yeah yeah gotten a lot of attention um well chelsea james thank you so much you guys this was amazing i really enjoyed this movie thank you for picking it yeah i'm so glad we got to watch it finally.

I love like there's. Hey, Molly, don't be like that. Molly's possessed. Sorry. There's so many movies on our list of like, God, we really need to watch that. So when an opportunity arises to like force us to watch it, I love taking it and being like, yes, we will. Yes. This one.

Hell yeah. Well, could you tell our listeners where they can find you and about dead meat and anything else you want to plug? Yeah. Yeah. Dead meat is the number one horror movie channel on YouTube. We've been doing it for six and a half years now. And the flagship show on it is the Kill Count, which evolved from just counting the kills in movies to pretty much being mini documentaries about them, where we go into the behind the scenes, how it was made, cultural context, just all sorts of things, all while keeping lots of jokes in there to have it fun and funny. And then alongside the Kill Count is the Dead Meat podcast, which is Chelsea's show. Yeah. Demi podcast. We have, you know, longer form reviews,

which James and I doing a bit more analysis than there would be room for on, on the kill count. Um, we'll play a lot. We play games like lots of trivia and just, uh, we, we keep it goofy on the podcast.

Horror survivor is a big hit on the podcast where we play survivor with, uh, 18 horror characters and just basically RPG. It's like a tabletop rpg where we play through a season of survivor and determine which horror character is fun we don't know who's gonna win when we start but we come to it it's always surprising lots of fun stuff and just other random things on the channel lots of interviews uh we also have one of our we do uh annual horror awards which uh when evil lurks will be nominated for best original picture

probably yeah i think uh we so we'll have our third annual horror awards in probably i think march just right around oscar time and then uh we also do a horror royal rumble where we run a computer simulated uh on wwe game 30 character royal Rumble with characters that Chelsea creates of horror characters and then we commentate live watching it for the first time as characters are eliminated. Oh my god! We've gotten WWE wrestlers

to do some like that. Yeah, they send in videos being like I'm rooting for the Wolfman to win! It's a lot of fun. One of the most fun things on the channel. Lots to offer for horror fans. my god amazing great um and where can people find you on like instagram socials and stuff oh yeah dead meat james is the twitter instagram and tiktok uh the twitter is me the other two are uh a 22 year old we pay to handle those because i'm not into tiktok yep uh we tried to start tiktok and it didn't go well yeah no it's not for us it's not for us what can you do

uh i'm at carebeck c-a-r-e-v-e-c-c on twitter and instagram and you can also find chelsea's voice in games like fire emblem heroes she's a voice actor i did just i did just get added to fire emblem heroes which is very exciting for someone who loves fire emblem like i do yes anyway i'm so proud that's amazing you got a great voice thank you um this is a real treat i sufficiently spooked which i love which i love that that can be the name of another podcast. Sufficiently Spooked. Sufficiently Spooked. That is nice. That's a good one.

But Emily, you don't feel like terrible, right? I don't feel terrible. No. I don't feel terrible. Do you feel terrified? I feel terrified. Is there a movie that's been described to you that has made you just feel terrible? Yes.

Oh, God. Yeah. Can you think of one off the top of your head? Yeah. Speak No Evil. Speak No Evil. Oh, yeah. Oh God. Yeah. Can you think of one off the top of your head? Yeah. Speak no evil. Speak no evil. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

I mean, the whole point of that is that just, that's a bummer. Funny games was one funny game. Say me mad. Speak. I guess speak to you. Maybe mad too.

I, I, Oh, um, speak no evil. And the mist, I think are the two that made me feel the worst. Yes those are very bleak. They'll do it.

I can't even The Mist. I don't think about it that much but man anytime I remember it It's pretty devastating. It's pretty devastating. So this one was not devastating. Great. So thanks for that. You're going to sleep easy tonight.

I'm going to sleep easy tonight I'm gonna sleep easy tonight Maybe no men under my bed Not even on International Men's Day Not even Not even Get out of here Alright well we end every episode with a voice But there's not really a voice in this one

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