Too Scary; Didn't Watch - TERRIFIER & TERRIFIER 2

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

We're recapping BOTH Terrifier movies because Sammy knew she wouldn't be able to convince Emily and Henley to return if she only did one of them! She was right!!!! Join us as we try to focus on the good things in life (like this evil clown's adorable tiny hat!) TRAILER Terrifier recap beings @ 22:57 Terrifier 2 recap begins @ 48:02 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And ooh, yuck, we got a yucky one today. Ooh, yuck.

We got a yucky one today. I just need you to know I did not know we were doing what we are doing today. And I'm not happy about it. I'm so sorry. I'm like dreading it now. Fuck. Fuck. Yeah, it's not going to be good.

You're not going to like it. There's a 0% chance either of you are going to like it. Fuck. It's so scary. It's really creepy. I love to spend my weekends this way. No. I actually do. I actually do love it.

I actually do. I do, too. I do, too. But yeah, I have a lot to say about these movies, multiple. Yikes. But before we get into them, we've got a touch of haunted housekeeping. Just a little touch. We actually have a little more

than usual so let's handful a handful uh handshake we got a handshakes amount of haunted housekeeping and that is we'll start start with the most exciting one which is. Another online live show. It will be Saturday, February 11th at 5 p.m. Pacific, 8 p.m. Eastern. And as usual, it will be available as a video

for anybody who gets tickets but can't watch at that exact time for a week after. One week. One week after. We are are going to be we put a poll for you guys on our instagram about what movie you wanted us to recap of a new release and you have picked knock at the cabin oh i'm excited for it night shamalan shamalan who knows who knows it's lost to time no one will ever know there's actually no way to know night what's crazy is there's no way to know yeah it's night's new movie um very excited about

recapping that one for you all um so tickets uh are available at moment.co slash t s d w we'll also have it linked on our social media just instagram i don't think you maybe i'll i'll tweet about it but you can find it on our instagram i'm so excited it's gonna be so fun i'm very excited and uh we are now going to also give patrons 20 off tickets to our live virtual shows so if you're a patron make sure you um purchase the tickets through that patron only link yes i haven't set it up yet so i don't know exactly where it will be but we'll tell you let you know i'll post it on patreon and if you're not a patron and you'd like to become one that's patreon.com slash tstw podcast and uh the last bit of haunted housekeeping is that we are going to end our merch sales at the end of january so this is your last chance these next two weeks here to get in your merch purchases. Merch purchases. Perch your merch.

And they may come back in the future, but just in case, you know, why not be safe and get them out? Why not be safe? You don't want to be kicking yourself later. Yeah, perch your merch, perch your merch yeah ella talking did a great design on it we truly love it um but that's gonna be that for

now so perch your merch perch your merch and join the patreon if you want discounts to live shows and other cool stuff like that um but okay did anything scary happen to us this week you guys just i wanted to tell you guys that i joined a gym did i tell you that no no all right so i joined the gym that's across the street from my office it's literally hop hop, skip it, a jump it away. I have no excuse not to join. And you're exactly hopping and skipping and jumping there for the extra. One hop, one skip, one jump. And how do you think a hop is different than a jump?

Hop is like, um, a smaller jump. I think hop is like, I would say hop. I don't know if this is true. Were you about to say hop is two feet? Yes, I was. I had to say that. But is true is two feet yes i was i i had i had to say that but i was like but you jump with two feet too but i think you could jump with one foot you could like if you leapt forward leading with one foot that could be a jump a hop i think has to be two feet okay but i

i hear you but what about hopscotch where the whole point is hopscotch has some jumps in there you can hop with one foot when you're doing jump rope that's even more confusing you're doing hopscotch with jump rope we may never know man the English language I don't think I'll ever get my arms around it I'm never going to get my arms around the English language

oh my god okay you joined a gym get my arms around it. I'm never going to get my arms around the English language. Oh my God. Okay. You joined the gym. Wow. Wow. Another thing I'll never get my arms around, which is the gym. So I've been, you guys, I've been to the gym maybe five times since I joined. Holy shit. That's a lot of times. Okay. Two out of those five times I actually exercised. Okay. Five out of those five times I actually exercised Okay Five out of those five times I just used the shower So it's a shower membership It's literally I'm paying so much money a month to be able to shower whenever I want to Honestly worth it

It's worth it, it's worth it Like trying to get out of the house, being so busy, not having to worry, being able to like sleep for an extra 15 minutes instead of having to get in the shower. I get in the shower right before when I get to work. I just get in the shower. That's so interesting. That's just the same amount of time before. Or are you just 15 minutes later to work?

I'm just 15 minutes later to work. Oh, perfect. 150 million percent. I'm just later to work. Feels like you could do that to work. Oh, perfect. 150 million percent. I'm just later to work. Feels like you could do that at home, too, if you wanted. No, no. But when you have a baby, you have to get the baby to a certain place in time. Now here's the, here we go.

That's the thing. And also, showering with a baby around is tricky. An 18-month-year-old, I have showered with Silas. Like, lock him in the bathroom while I'm showering. And he's like, usually delightfully confused, but it's definitely not, not a stressful situation. So this is just like, I get to have a luxurious shower in the gym by myself. Okay. Honestly, nothing could be a gym membership. I'm like, but a shower membership, a stress-free shower membership is like, that sounds amazing. I'm so happy for you.

So I did it the other day. One day was this Thursday and showered, got to work, hopped on my big team call, sitting there on the Zoom. Someone pinged me over Slack and they were like, hey, just want to let you know your hair looks great today. Can you even believe, can you even believe I got a slack compliment just from sitting there and my team zoom meeting with my hair all aglow from my goddamn shower. It was the, I bet you were glowing because you felt great.

Also because at home I don't like really blow dry my hair unless I absolutely have to. But at the gym, you know, I just said blow dry my hair. Why not? Oh my God. We get to try hair when I leave. Anyway, so this is changing my life one step at a time. Next step is to actually exercise. So I'm going to do that too. I think that will help also. I was worried when I, when I revealed that I really couldn't touch my toes, I felt like you guys were concerned for my longevity and my health, so I'm going to fix that in 2023. For our sake. I like that. I do think you should

stretch. Perhaps this becomes a stretch and shower membership. I think even if that's all that it is, you link them in your brain. When you go to the gym, you go to shower, you go walk, you get a stretch in while I'm here You know just touch those toes

And if you exercise great who cares you know That's a bonus but if you stretch And you shower I think that's a great Great thing Okay I feel good about that Happy for you hen Thanks can you guys tell me about you How are you doing

I had my first full week of my new school quarter this week and it was definitely a little bit scary getting back into the swing of school and this quarter is is a lot i'm taking a lot of classes and it's very very computer heavy like all even though i'm in a like practical program like design and product development it they do it all on computers now you know um and so all my like design classes are on computers and it's a lot of staring at a computer simi you can relate you you do this you do this for your job. And I have not figured it out yet how to how to do it.

I feel like I also feel like, Emily, you like more tactile. I really do. Things. I really do. Computer in that way. So, like the actual, you know, the career will have a mix of both. But like because I'm, you know, focusing on the class that I'm in and just just all worked out this quarter it's all very computer heavy so like I was I had told you guys about this this week I was working on a a mood board

type like a visual it was basically a research project that I had to like compile into boards in InDesign which is a program I just learned how to use and it okay the assignment said it was like This will probably take you about nine hours which Looking at that I was like fuck that's a long time And then I think I probably spent like 25 hours on it I could not it's like the kind of Thing where because it's endless options

You're like on the internet just like looking at Everything you can source 10 Million images and then you Can be like well where do i put them and do i want this one with this one and what size should they be should it be like this should be like it's the exact perfect thing for my brain to fully fixate on and i did in a crazy way in the first day that i worked on it i think i sat down and didn't get up for like nine hours that always makes me feel so bad i know this feeling well felt i know I felt terrible. At the end of the day, I was like,

why do I feel so crazy? One of my eyes was twitching. I was like, I felt completely deranged and like not a human. And I was like, I have to figure this out. I can't go on like this. This is like basically all of my therapy sessions are about this. Yes. I thought about life with my current job? Yes. I thought about you instantly. Cause I was like, this is a, this is like not healthy. I set alarms in my phone every like half hour or so that are just reminders to get up and walk around and have to really force myself to do it. And it sucks because when you get into a creative kind of flow state, it's, you know, you want to, part of that feels good. And part of that is giving you

endorphins in a way, but in, in kind of still an unpleasant way. I don't know how to describe it. I was telling, so Joel also, um, uh, I was going to say forced, requested out of love that I take breaks and set alarms. And because he's working from home, he would come out and be like, have you taken a break? Have you eaten? Because it's also like I sort of do love it. Like I get tunnel vision in a way that is like it works for me, but it doesn't. But then it's like, well, you're going to pay that. You're going to pay that piper afterwards.

Yeah, you're going to feel like shit at the end of the day. And so, yeah. So the next day that I sat down to work on it, I did. I set alarms. I had to like get up. It's also not helpful that it's raining. It's been so rainy. So it's like, I can't go for a walk.

But anyway, I just, it's, I have to like figure out how to do this because I'm going to lose my mind and it's only been a week. But I thought about you and I know you have tools, Sammy, and I need to use your advice. I mean, I can't say I've gotten it to a great place, though. So it's hard to get your hopes too high. OK, I'll set them low. It's important, though, to even just like look not at the screen for even if it's 20 seconds or so there's some i think it's either it's called something like the 20 20 20 rule where every 20 minutes you have to look 20 feet into the distance for 20 seconds

because it's bad for your eyes to be focused At such a close distance for so long So just changing the depth Of what your eyes are focusing on Regularly is Important for your eye health I have my little I have glasses that are like blue light blocking And they're supposed to do something About like focus on screens

But I So that first day I wore them all day And when I felt completely insane, I was talking to Joel and I was like, I wore my glasses. And he was like, that's not, you can't, it doesn't make it not crazy to stare at a screen for nine hours straight. So yeah, there needs to be more, more being done. And I will look up that, that rule. And I'm, you know, set alarms of people who work on computers have advice i'd love to hear it um but anyway i got an i got a 100 i'm like hell yeah she got an a which reinforces bad i was gonna say this is my

problem as well because i'm also yeah like a perfectionist and so i really yeah exactly just when you work yourself too hard and are then rewarded for it i guess that's kind of that's all that's what i was trying to say yeah well and also they're they haven't given us any tools on how to be healthy in this world at all right because nobody knows i don't know but it's like it's like oh you sat down and you worked your computer for nine hours uh you're productive good good job it doesn't matter that you feel like shit. You know, all that matters is that you worked. You know, it's like.

Do it again tomorrow. So depressing. Yeah. Our backs are all going to be crooked. Oh, fuck. I wasn't even thinking about my back. Well, OK. I guess I'll say that I have started.

I bought what's called a TENS machine. T-n-s now i can't remember what it's what it stands for but it's basically something they use at the chiropractor i'm sure at other places as well but it's just those little pads that they put on you that send little electrical currents through you and it like makes you sit up i've seen these it's called like stim stimming right perhaps i've associated stimming with an adhd term but i don't even know what it means then where you're sorry just ignore me no i remember i used to have to get this on my calves because i had such bad um shin splints yeah it helps with pain pain management it's something to do with well i think it has a lot of different purposes. So I've been doing it on the inner ear.

So it's electrocuting the tragus, which is supposed to stimulate your vagus nerve, which don't get me started on the vagus nerve. You love the vagus nerve. I would love to get you started. I think you have gotten started. Oh, God. It's just, I mean, all of of this stuff similar to what we were just describing it's like it brings me endorphins in equal parts as it brings me stress all things that are health

related it's like there's something very exciting about finding a new tool to manage health things that could be good but then it just also drives this anxiety of like well the reason i'm doing this is because my body is falling apart and i'm dying and so i can't and then do you ever convince yourself that like once you discover a new thing you're like oh great i've got this and then if you like then you start to feel like i can't live without this thing if i don't do this then i I'm dead. Yeah. Like I do that a lot with skincare. If I discover a new like serum or something that I like,

I'm like, Oh great. I love this. I'll use this every day. And then I'm like, if I run out, I'll instantly age and be disgusting. And it's like,

well, you weren't using it before. Like it's not, but it's just really. Yep. It's tough. It's fucking hard. Life is so hard.

Life is so hard. But I'm enjoying the tents. I'm enjoying the tents thing. It's kind of fun. You know what? Maybe we just need to start reframing how we think about these things. We're going to enjoy the tents. We're going to enjoy the shower.

Oh, yeah. We're going to walk around the house. We can walk in the rain. We can walk in the rain. We need to keep the rain from... It's fine. You know what's going to make us feel better? No.

Liar. Liar. Guys, I almost forgot. It's going to solve all of our problems. I was really hoping we could just keep chatting. We could just keep chatting. I know. And that's it But I guess we're here to do a job

We've been really dragging our feet I have some bad news and that is that This week's movie we're doing two Terrifier and Terrifier 2 I'm going to zoom through Terrifier And we're going to mainly focus on Terrifier 2. This is because This was a patron chosen episode

Which we are going to start doing once a month We're going to mainly focus on Terrifier 2. This is because this was a patron chosen episode, which we are going to start doing once a month. We're going to have a patron chosen episode. I posted a poll of eight movies. They picked Terrifier. But in the comments, everyone said, please do Terrifier 2 instead. And after watching Terrifier, I thought that once we do this, there's no fucking way Emily and Henley are gonna let us do another one So we gotta squeeze them both into one Damn it

Okay but Listen I did a fucking double feature Of these last night I'm so impressed by you The first one The first one an hour and 20 thankfully second one Two hours and 20 minutes.

This fucking guy. I watched these for almost four hours. Four hours watching these movies? Yeah. Last night? Yeah, last night. That's what I did. Okay, talk about being a perfectionist.

Someone. Yes, it's true. I need to go above and beyond. Oh my God, Sammy. Even when I'm having a horrible, horrible time. Sammy, no. Okay, it's 3. I need to go above and beyond. Oh my god, Sammy. Even when I'm having a horrible, horrible time. Sammy, no. Okay, it's 3.20pm. Should I text him and tell him to bring me

a tequila soda right now? Possibly. I'm going to text him and say, can you bring me an alcoholic beverage? And he's going to be like, why? Alright, well, you know what, Sammy? Let's fucking go. You did.

You've done an act of service and we need to honor that. We're going to get it done and then we're never going to have to do it again. Yeah. Yep. That's the spirit. Oh, my God. I can't believe this. I'm glad I didn't know.

I'm glad I didn't know because I would have spent. You would have dreaded it. Past 24 hours ruminating on this but instead we're just diving in it was such a kindness uh okay i'll tell you that both films are written and directed by damien leone joining the ranks of eli roth and the director of The Sadness. Can't remember his name. I bet they're all three fucking best friends. Oh, no. Are they really? No, but I mean, I bet they are. Rob Jaboz.

Rob Jaboz. Rob Jaboz. Rob Jaboz. Thank God you remember that. Rob Jaboz. Eli Roth, I've said before, I like his work with sharks so I bet he does have a good side. I'm not so sure on these other two.

Okay, well let's fucking do it. I'm still putting it off. These are the fourth and fifth films featuring Art the Clown. This is a clown movie. How do you guys feel about clowns i know you love pennywise i love

pennywise and honestly art this is art the clown i said that already uh he has his moments he's he's he's funny too sometimes but he's not as hot and thank god because if he was hot i would be stressed oh god i i feel fine about clowns i mean i don't like it when they're creepy but the concept of clowns doesn't bother me i feel the same way same the same about yeah uh the previous films are two short films and one feature length where he was a more of a side character i think so i'm thinking of it kind of as the nun basically type of thing where he's these are now his first big movies big movies movies where he is the main character he's the star yeah yeah and in the three previous ones art the clown was played by michael gennelli and he decided not to

reprise his role due to how long it would take to apply the heavy prosthetics and makeup and so now it is david howard thornton who we by the way have a cameo from that a listener sent us a long time ago william thank you so much for sending it so i'll have to send it to you guys afterwards and maybe we can post it we have art the clown saying our our names coming out of his lips wow oh my god oh my god i forgot about that i don't like that i think he's actually pretty good in this. I'm not mad at David Howard Thornton. I'm mad at Damien Leone. I feel like these kind of movies are in a way why we started the podcast, because I

feel like horror bros can't be the main voices in the horror world. We got to drown them out. We got to drown them out. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Oh, God. I think what I will do is just go through Terrifier 1 so incredibly quickly.

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scary to start bundling with 30% off your first order. Don't forget, that's HelloBello.com slash Too Scary. Number two, but we'll watch it after. Terrifier one. All right, let's blow through it. Okay, so it starts with an interview, a televised interview with the only surviving victim of the Miles County massacre. We see her face is horribly disfigured. county massacre we see her face is horribly disfigured and she is talking to the reporter about how you know it's really hard children are scared of her she was sometimes wishes she had died it's really upsetting and then we see the reporter after the interview making fun of her

and calling her ugly and being like can you believe how ugly she was which is just um what i don't think that anybody would ever do that i don't think anybody would ever do that so then the the surviving victim woman happens to be in her dressing room overhearing this and comes out of the shadows and mauls her and basically rips her face off in uh anger okay i mean that's what women are like yes this is this is written by a man who knows women yeah i can't wait to discover more because i love the tone we're setting Yeah Oh man, just you wait Oh my god, that's the first thing that happens

God damn it We have a, yeah, okay, we don't need to break it down We simply can't We have a whole mountain to climb here We are at the base of the mountain We need to keep going We gotta put one foot in front of the other A hop, skip and a jump A hop, skip, and a jump up.

A hop, skip, and a jump away. So then we cut to two women or girls. I think they might be supposed to be high school. They're either high school or college aged. It's Halloween night. They're in costume, and they see Art the Clown. They see Art the Clown and he carries around a trash bag, a big garbage bag full of shit like Santa, but probably worse. Probably worse.

You can assume. I'll describe him a little bit. He does not speak. He is mime-like in behavior. He does not speak. He is mime-like in behavior. He has big, nasty teeth. And he wears all black and white and has a little, tiny little top hat on his head. Oh, well, that's fun. He's a little bit fun.

Sometimes he's fun. I've got to give him credit. He does make me laugh every once in a while by doing a silly little thing. Because he's clown's doing he's clowning and he's having fun uh david howard he loves his work he loves what he does and david howard thornton apparently was a mime at one point so he's pretty good at it uh one of the girls that sees him is immediately terrified and the other one is kind of drunk and laughing and asking him to take a picture with him type of thing and the one that is immediately scared by him i think her name is

tara and they both go into a pizza place to they need to sober up before driving they were like trying to get into the car but the other girl was too drunk to drive so now they're going into the pizza place gonna get some pizza so they can sober up so they can drive clown comes and sits at the booth next to them or across from them and just stares at tara with a huge smile on his face and uh yeah he's awful and they Uh, yeah, he's awful. And they, uh, eventually they eat the pizza. They leave. He just stares at them, uh, basically unblinking the whole time they leave.

They go back to the car and their tires have been slashed. We saw that art did see them trying to get into the car earlier so tara says what if that guy slashed our tires the other girl her name is don don don says oh that's don't be ridiculous why would he do that well somebody did it's like what so they can't drive so they get in the car and Tara calls her sister, Victoria, to come pick them up, gives them, gives her the location and then says, I have to pee really bad. So I'm, I don't want to go back into the pizza place because I think the clown is still in there. I don't like that guy. So she sees a guy standing outside of an apartment building

and he, he looks like a, Oh my my god tim just scared me so bad it's really scary a man just appeared it was very scary timmy scared them so bad he brought me he brought me a glass that just has literally just alcohol in it that is very cute and very funny so she this guy standing outside the apartment building looks to be a exterminator tara goes to the exterminator to ask if she can go inside to use the bathroom he lets her in the place is disgusting henley's nightmare fluorescent lighting Obviously infested with bugs And no he says it's rats

But it looks like an almost abandoned building But I think people do There's one woman that lives there I don't know Let's say She goes in there to pee She goes in there to pee He says he's about to bomb it

He hasn't bombed it yet And so I guess everybody's gone Because he's about to do the extermination That makes sense or that hold it girl there is no universe where she goes in there no just pee next to the door behind her hell no hell no that's no no you'd pee outside or you'd fucking hold it no yeah certainly not she's the one who's like the clown slitter tires yeah she's this this yeah presented as the more like i'll go in this abandoned warehouse instead i think the guy who's right there slashed our tires we're just gonna hang out and i'm gonna walk away no no sorry we have to get to the top of the mountain

we're so far away dawn is sitting in the car by herself listening to live local news like all young women do it's halloween night baby let's have some fun and she hears on the radio that there has just been a murder in the pizza place that they were just in and then we cut to seeing inside that pizza place and art is murdering everybody in there they're saying on the news as it's happening yes they're like it's this just in which is also not a thing that happens are the cops there not yet how does this news i guess it's someone they said someone saw art Someone's calling from the back. They don't call the police. I just needed to call the live local news first. I guess it's someone, they said someone saw Art leaving the building. So it must be like directly afterwards.

Still not how it works. News works. No. But, you know, it does in this universe. And so she hears it and she, for the first time, starts to feel scared. I can't really remember what's interesting about those murders. I will say the gore in these movies is very good. You guys would not like it, but it looks I think it looks great.

And it really it really goes there. And it really it really goes there in a way that I do like, but blended with the tone and, you know, everything else going on in this movie. It's not as sure to watch. Yeah. So I don't know. He probably decapitates them. So I don't know. He probably decapitates them. And so we see Dawn in the car getting creeped out. We hear the car door open. She says, thank God you're back. You're never going to believe what I just heard on the live local news. And of course, it is Art the Clown.

And we cut away. And we go back inside to Tara. She is getting turned around in this building very creepy building and because the exterminator guy has now gone upstairs he's put on some headphones blasting some music so he can't hear her anymore and she's wandering around downstairs and eventually has some sort of run in with art and she fights back pretty good and she gets some good hits in i think but ultimately he is able to inject her with something that knocks her out and he wakes her up she is tied to a chair and he is doing this all in a very clowny type way big smile on his face kind of jumping around like like he's excited you're not gonna believe what i have to show you

and he rips a curtain down from the wall and behind the curtain is dawn naked upside down spread eagle oh my god oh my god oh my god no oh you're not gonna like it but that said i think this is the worst thing that happens in either film so great we're getting it over with he has a hacksaw and he rips her underwear off and starts out of vagina and saws her in half. Hot dog style. This is hot dog style. What? And she's alive? She's alive for way too long.

Way longer than is humanly possible. She would have absolutely died within the first like five seconds of this happening from blood loss. There's so much blood or she's alive until he's at her like heart it's like you would not survive being cut in half way from crotch to heart that's just you'd be dead way before that um and so tara sees all this and is screaming and is able to break the chair that she is taped to and gets away. And there's another woman we've seen once or twice in the building that I don't know if she's a homeless woman or she she has holding a toy like a baby, and talking about how it's her baby. It's her baby. And so she's having a delusion that this is actually her baby.

And we see this woman at some point also, I think as Art is trying to chase Tara, he finds her and takes the baby from her and is cradling the baby. And she's crying like, please give me back my baby. And she's has like an opportunity to run away. But instead, she goes back to save her baby. And God, women are so fucking stupid. Okay. Okay. Thank God.

This is not a real baby. And nonetheless, it's very sad also we are getting shots of tara's sister victoria who is now arriving basically at the place really cool looking for her sister great and um is this blowing through terrifier i just i have to ask you know is this the definition of blowing through this movie i don't know i feel like maybe um we're almost done we are okay i think i'm going through pretty quick okay so she no victoria arrives she comes in and she sees sod in half uh dawn and it's obviously enters the apartment building i think she's able to get in through the back because some gate was open or something art the clown was texting her i'm skipping some details here oh okay okay okay

yeah who cares blow through yeah so she gets in and uh seized on and is looking for tara and oh meanwhile we've also seen after or no i think it must have been before the other woman he he does kill tara he finds tara and it seems like she's gonna fucking beat him but she loves doing the thing where she stabs him once and then runs away. Like each time she gets an upper hand, she'll do one, take one shot and then run. And it's like, no, we need to be stabbing him as much as humanly possible. And so Tara's dead. He ends up shooting her in the face.

These are all very drawn out kill scenes, obviously very gory. And so Victoria arrives and finds what looks like a woman's body face down on the floor and a bloody corpse next to it, like a few feet away from it. floor and a bloody corpse next to it like a few feet away from it and she the the um corpse has brown hair so does tara so she's like tara tara tara and goes to try to lift the person up and it is art the clown who is now naked wearing the woman's scalp and hair and breasts. And we see the corpse has the breasts cut off and is scalped. And he's now chasing Victoria. Wait, but he was naked. He's naked.

He's naked. Okay. She thought it was her sister. Sorry. It's a big naked clown. And she thought it was her sister's body. Sorry, just real quick. It's just a big naked clown and she thought it was her sister's body. There might have been a blanket over him. I can't remember, but okay.

I hope so. I know she's dead, but I'd be so offended. If it was a big naked clown with just my hair and you guys thought it was me, I'd be like, what the fuck? How could you think that was me? He gets changed. He gets his clown costume back on at some point. And he does some fun. I wrote he does some fun clown stuff in this chase scene where he gets on his tricycle at one point and he's like laughing and following her on the tricycle

he's got a little clown horn that he honks i don't know i guess i just i enjoy the clown humor yeah uh they do have some confrontation where she's able to poke one of his eyes out. Oh, no. Pretty good. That's pretty good. But that's again, I think then just like runs away, tries to make a run for it. There's a part where she eyeballs the front door, which has three thick chains and padlocks on it. thick chains and padlocks on it. She stares at it for a second

and then she just gives away her position and runs at it screaming and starts like shaking the locks. It's like, bitch, you saw that those were all those look so locked, so unbelievably locked. Why did you scream? Oh my god.

Somewhere in here, oh, the exterminator, he got murdered along the way. And he, I was wondering about him. He, before he got murdered, did call the police. So now the cops are on their way during this final showdown between Victoria and art. And she is screaming at that padlocked door and then as we hear sirens approaching art is in a truck in the exterminator's truck and mows her over with the car and hits her or yeah i said that oh no he just mows her over and then circled back and hit her again.

Just the ones. He gets out of the car and he starts eating her face. What? Ripping her face off and eating it. So he's a cannibal. He's a cannibal clown. I guess so. So they don't go too hard on the cannibalism.

Just a touch here and there. She's going to be the new disfigured girl. Yeah. Or is she that disfigured? Oh, is she the original one? The first disfigured girl. Oh. So the cops walk in.

They say, put your hands up. And he pulls a gun out of his shoe, basically. And before they can arrest him, he shoots himself in the head. Brains explode all out the back of his head and they zip him up they uh say oh my god the woman is still alive and take her to the hospital but the coroner for some reason sets up some sort of i don't know room to look at the bodies in this apartment building, which I don't think would happen. But as he is going to unzip Art's body bag, he unzips it and Art is just staring at him with a huge smile on his face, which was pretty creepy. That did get me pretty good.

That's scary. And he's completely still just smiling staring at the coroner and then he was it like some sort of clown it was a freaking clown trick and he's still alive and he grabs the corner by the throat kills him see him get away disappear into the night and then we go to the hospital and we see that. Yes, Victoria is the woman from the beginning. And we see her face and how,

um, and for some reason, the last line of this movie is they're saying how she's in good spirits, all things considered. And as she's leaving the hospital, they say, good luck with your interview tomorrow. And that's the last line of the movie. And there's no interview in the following one. I just really was like very confused by that.

But I guess it's the interview from the beginning of the movie. Oh, okay, okay. Even still. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so stupid. but but i guess it's the interview from the beginning oh okay okay that's so stupid they wouldn't say that i love imagining this is a job interview oh my god i really was okay i'm the stupid one i'm the stupid one because i really was like why would she go to a job interview immediately after having facial reconstructive surgery. Girls gotta pay for health insurance in this country. It's gonna be fucking expensive. Yeah. Okay. Alright, my number one question is

aren't the clown like supernatural or is he just like a really fucked up human? Is he like a clown by birth? I think in Terrifier 1, he is supposed to be just a person In Terrifier 2 Things get supernatural

So I guess you could make the argument that he's supernatural in both But Terrifier 2 Gets fully supernatural In a way that I wasn't expecting And in a way that I didn't like Oh great Okay

Oof gross So it's just gross. Yeah. It's just gross movie. Yeah. Yeah. Real, real bummer. Really not liking, really not liking. This is weird, but at first I really didn't want to watch the trailers for these movies, but now I kind of want to. What happened? What is that? Your description? I just got really curious. of want to what happened what is that your description I just got really curious I got really curious hearing you tell us even though I'm also so mad and hate every second of it well there is an element of him that is very visual especially because he does not speak and so you're you're gonna want to get a look at him I think I just want to know like a style of movie making and I want to know this like yeah I could I don't think i've ever seen a trailer for these at all i've heard people talk about them and people have

messaged us about them being like they're so fucked up yeah okay a lot of people said terrifier two is so much better than terrifier one so much better than terrifier one no it's not it's just an hour longer there's just more of it is this like okay so when people said you got to do you got to do tear fire is it is it in the same way they're like you got to do human centipedes because it's because it's terrible or do people like it because i just need to know if i'm about to make some people really mad. With my thoughts about this movie. I think people know. That it's not good.

I would think that. I just. I know that this happens. In the genre. In general. This is definitely a larger conversation. But. The way this movie portrays women is i can not believe how many people had

to read this script and go yeah yeah yeah this works let's do it yeah no but it's not like it's portraying i mean if men are supposed to be the terrifier guy like they're not coming across great either that's true i mean no look that's true but like the first movie did get a ton of criticism for being super misogynistic and i think he heard that note a bit in the second one not a lot okay not a lot it just it's not just about them being like um you know naked and tortured and cut crotch to heart it's like women a woman saying immediately to a massacre victim like oh she's so ugly and then that would be like she called me ugly i'm gonna maul her and then girls being so fucking stupid about a it's like it's just it's

it's it portrays women as being dumb catty image obsessed empty fucking headed like screaming towards a locked door when you're it's like and what makes me mad about movies like this is it's like that's not the it's not a it's not the statement he's making that's just pen to page how women come out and it's like it's just how women are in this brain and many others and it's so fucking crazy yeah i think there is this brand of horror where there's almost no thought going into any of that like i don't think he's yeah thinking critically about anything it's just i yeah i want to have blood and guts on the screen and i'm not going to consider in what ways that might be harmful or in what context that could be fun to watch or could be really not okay. I think he's just, he's just doing whatever comes

into his head. Yeah. Would be my guess. Yeah. That's why we got to drown out the horror bros. We have to drown them out. Yeah. We got to drown out the horror bros. One voice at a time. But I guess we're still only halfway up the mountain. So yeah, after watching that one, I was like, well, I better watch number two because there's no fucking way we're gonna be able to um come back to this franchise at a later date so terrifier 2 came out this oh excuse me last year 2022 oh whoa i didn't realize when did the first one come out 2016 oh wow okay it is starring lauren lavera elliot fulman and again david howard thornton it is available if you get a free trial of screambox on amazon whoa 86 on rotten tomatoes okay 59 on metacritic thank god and a standard 6.2 on imdb that tells us nothing you know budget 250 000 it made 12.9

million so this one was kind of a surprise hit it stayed in theaters longer than they planned for it to because it did so well over october of 2022 and again people were really saying wow it's so much better than the first one. So I went into it expecting a much better film. And there are parts of it that are better, but nothing that excuses a two hour and 20 minute runtime in my mind. So for that reason alone, I preferred the first one just because it was over faster. Right. When we did Human Centipede, a lot of people DMed and they were like, you have to see Terrifier 2. It's even worse. But I wonder if that's just recency bias because it just had just come out.

And so people, it's top of mind for people. Yeah, maybe. All right. Big, big breath. Because this one's going to take a little longer. So we're probably going to be at almost a two hour episode here. Sorry guys, but we're just,

we're going to get it done. We can do it. We can do it. We can do it. Um, uh, for trivia for this one, I just have to tell you this.

It's, it's haunted me. And I just want you to think about this as we're going through this interview or through this recap, which is that Damien leone stated on instagram that sienna who is the main character of this film is a character that he has been trying to get from page to screen for more than a decade she's he says she is my favorite character i've ever written and seeing lauren lavera breathe life into her has been an absolute dream come true

that i will cherish always cannot wait for all of you Terrifier fans to see her in action I promise you won't be disappointed he adds that Lavera was born to play Sienna nothing against Lauren Lavera she did a fine job this character is there's no absolutely no substance to this character oh my god I just don't know what he's talking about when he says that like i just don't know what he means her personality is like hot cosplay girl i was gonna say is she like just a fucking hot cool girl cosplay girl yeah yeah okay so what he's really trying to say is i have wanted to write a woman i want to fuck fuck into a movie so bad. And then I did it. And then I did it!

And then I did it! Yeah. Guys, I wrote the perfect girl. She's absolutely empty-skulled and hot. Okay, should we watch this trailer? Yes. So, did you figure out what you're dressing up as tomorrow? He wants to dress up as a real guy who murdered nine people last year.

Oh, you're not doing that. It's just a costume. You think that guy's still out there? What's up with you and this clown all of a sudden? You're like obsessed. They never found his body. What if he decides to come back here? I wouldn't worry about it. Wait a minute, aren't you that guy from the costume shop?

Sir, what are you doing? It wasn't me. He was covered in blood on his shirt and his hands when he got here. I'm telling you it was him, Ellie. Right down to the little black dot on the tip and his hands when he got here. I'm telling you it was him, Allie. Right down to the little black dot on the tip of his nose. You're really weird, you know that? I believe him. About what? Something really bad's gonna happen tonight.

No, I know when Jonathan's lying, okay? I could hear it in his voice. Something's... something's wrong. Look, we're gonna have fun. Mm-hmm, stress-free environment. his voice. Something's, something's wrong. Look, we're gonna have fun. Stress-free environment. Yep. Speaking of surprises, kids,

we have a very special guest with us today. All the way from Miles County, please welcome Art the Clown.快点 I hate that I'm spending my Sunday this way. Are you fucking kidding me? I absolutely hated that. It looks so bad. It looks really bad. I'm sorry to everyone absolutely hated that. It looks so bad. It looks really bad. I'm sorry to everyone who, like, loves it.

It looks nasty. I just don't understand how anyone okayed this having a two hour and 20 minute run time. This is ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. His little black dot on his nose. Okay, that line made me laugh so much.

It was him. Right down to the black dot on his nose That line made me laugh so much It was him right down to the black dot On the tip of his nose Like what? This dialogue in this movie I'm kind of astonished though I will say of a $250,000 budget That's pretty low budget For what it looks like

Yeah it looked pretty good It looks okay There's like a couple moments where he is um that's pretty low budget for what it looks like yeah it looked pretty good i guess it looks okay there's like a couple moments where he is effectively copying other movies and having fun 80s synthy vibes little montages yeah there's some moments where he's effectively copying better filmmakers yeah i think i think the one thing i'll give him credit for is his gore is very good the gore looks great really great as soon as i saw her fucking halloween costume i was like oh yeah no she's like a hot girl who does dungeons and dragons is that like the deal basically with her it's not

even fully laid out in such a plain way. I think it's literally her personality is that costume. And she's an older sister, right? That's your younger brother. She's an older sister. She's fine. I mean, the actress does what she can with it. And there are some fun moments like, you know, I love a third act. We've snapped and all bets are off and I'm going to fight back as hard as I can. And we do get that. And I do enjoy that. And she does a good job in that.

But there's nothing to this character. I guess I just had assumed there would be some kind of like twist. There kind of is. There's going to be a twist. He's trying to be kind of Lynchian in it in a way that also doesn't work. OK, but we better get into it because there's. Yeah, we better get into it. 220 minutes of this movie to talk about.

Jesus fucking Christ. OK, let's go. Oh, no, I don't have nearly enough scotch. I need like literally the whole bottle. I'm going to tell Tim to bring me the whole bottle. I need like literally the whole bottle. I'm going to tell Tim to bring me the whole bottle. Okay, so we start with Art the Clown killing a man in a doctor's office or something like that.

I didn't really quite know where we were, but he is still missing an eye because Victoria in the previous film got one of his eyes out and as he's killing this man he rips one of his eyes out of his head and then puts it in his own head and it is pretty funny and he models it for him and he's like oh like look at me like your eye looks so good in my head and it looks really crazy your body would like reject that oh 100 right but maybe he's a supernatural clown maybe he's supernatural that's what we're viewing into that territory one might ask why am i going into this um so perhaps let's move on okay so then after killing this man um very brutally and bloodily and i feel like i'm gonna i think the thing that i will make listeners the most angry about is how i don't describe these kills in good enough detail because there's a lot of them i'll remember the main ones but that's good i'm kind of gonna gloss over these

more minor kills but just know that they're all pretty gross okay all right i see that so then art goes to a laundromat and takes off all his clothes and puts them in the washer because he's drenched in blood and at the laundromat he sees a little girl who is seemingly dressed and acting exactly like him a little mini art girl creepy little girl clown we're wondering is this a figment of his imagination is this a real girl then we see a another customer in the laundromat who was previously napping wake up and look at art and he's playing patty cake just with the air so you see it is in his head for now interesting okay at some point in here he's reading the newspaper and there's a newspaper headline that says, head-on crash

kills family of four, and he is silently laughing and laughing and laughing and that also did kind of make me laugh. You gotta take the moments of enjoyment. Find joy where you can. And so then we meet our protagonist sienna the greatest character ever put to paper

she is making her halloween costume which as we saw in the trailer is some sort of dungeons and dragonsy looking thing there's a fun-ish montage of her putting together this costume with again that 80s synth music the lighting is kind of cool and purpley gives you a little bit of i don't know it follows the type vibes but again worse worse and after she's finished whatever part of the project she's working on, she goes downstairs to have dinner with her mom and brother. Her dad has died recently. We don't know how with it seems like within the past year. And the brother, his name is Jonathan is younger.

He's 12 and she's in high school by the way. And he is saying that he wants to dress as art, the clown for Halloween. And they have a conversation here that was somewhat interesting where Sienna says, you can't do that. That's disgusting and disrespectful. You don't see people dressing

up like jeffrey dahmer which i thought was interesting because now we do you do and i just thought it was an interesting conversation to throw into this movie that's like very much contributing to this culture of creating these costumes for people to dress up i don't know i was like i guess this is interesting that this is in here i don't know it feels like it's trying to be self-aware without getting it like yes like the screen thing yes exactly and a lot of this movie feels like that it's like he's he's nearing concepts that are interesting well he's like i know this is a concept that's interesting, so I'm going to do it. But I'm not actually going to investigate it or think it through, actually, to its logical end point.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry to listeners who love this film. We are not going to be reviewing it positively. I know. I know. That ship has sailed, and I am sorry for that. I'm sorry.

And I think in general, you can just kind of across the board guarantee it. Like any torture porn adjacent e-movies, we're probably not going to praise super highly. Yeah. I think that's probably fair to say. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair you know i was thinking maybe i would try to um turn turn my own ship around and um play devil's advocate here and decide that i was a huge terrifier fan just to try to like mix things up sure the only thing i've liked so far is this

tiny hat and i haven't heard anything more about that so if you could um tell us more about the hat the tiny hat is on the whole time there is a a part in Terrifier 1 where the drunk girl tries to try his hat on and it slaps him in the face. And that's pretty funny. That's fun. Yeah, as much hat content as possible. If you could throw it in there, that would be great. Okay. Even if just every now and again you can say and he's still wearing his hat.

Okay. Just as you're describing things. Yeah, I would just like to know. Okay. Even if just every now and again you can say, and he's still wearing his hat, you know? Okay. Just as you're describing things. Yeah, I would just like to know. Okay, will do. Will do. Yes, Jonathan, her little brother, he's already got his art costume, so it's too late.

He's going to be him. How did this nine-year-old procure a costume for himself without anybody else knowing? He's 12, but still. Oh. He bought it on Amazon. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So she kind of reluctantly helps him glue, oh, the hat back together. The snap on his little mini hat broke the strap. And so she super glues it back together. That snap on his little mini hat broke the strap. And so she super glues it back together. That's cute. And he's admiring her costume and he sees a sword on her dresser and says, is that part of your costume? And she says,

no, that was dad's, which just seems like a crazy thing for him to not know. Um, and she says, careful, the blade is razor sharp so we're getting some some Chekhov's knife here this is or like a sword Chekhov's sword and there's a moment where she's talking to her mom being like Jonathan's too obsessed with Art the Clown like are you scared of him that he's maybe a psychopath like something could be really wrong with him which is very contradictory to everything we see of the kid the kid seems very sweet and it's like pretty normal and i guess there is a little moment where the sister asks

him if she thinks if he thinks dressing like art the clown will protect him from art. The clown. We find out this is exactly one year after the last murders. And so it's Halloween again, same town. And was their dad, the exterminator. Or is that too close? You know, I wish,

I wish it was something so clear and simple okay keep going so she that night falls asleep and has a nightmare of it's like a cereal commercial with art the clown and but this cereal has razor blades and cockroaches in it, and it's all these kids eating spoonfuls of bugs and blades. Gross, I hate that. And people start getting set on fire, and it's all just disturbing imagery. And there's one woman playing a guitar that sets on fire, and as Art the clown within the dream is spraying he's doing the flamethrower and she wakes up in fear and her wings that she was making for her costume are on

fire in the room and it's a pretty bad fire there are candles below the wings, but the house is very quickly like almost going to burn down. The flames are now to the ceiling and the mom runs in and is able to get a fire extinguisher and put out the fire. But it's pretty it's a scary moment. And she says, I can't believe you would leave your candles lit. That's so like why would you do that she says i didn't i swear to god i didn't never get any answer on how any of this is possible this is just like the first vaguely supernatural thing that happens okay sure sure Sure. Don't expect answers about it. Okay, I won't. So we see now Art and the little girl clown building weapons in whatever weird workshop they have. I don't know where their home base is, but somewhere.

And they are watching Victoria's interview on the TV. Toria's interview on the TV. And one of the weapons art is building is a chair leg, broken off chair leg with nails and knife blades in the end at the end of it. So it's kind of this like spiky mallet type thing that'll come back later. So just remember it. Uh, we see Jonathan going to school the next day, and his friends are playing with a dead possum.

And he gets in trouble for it, even though he had nothing to do with it. And in the school halls later, he's walking down a hall and he sees Art and the little girl. Okay, so she is real. Playing like hot potato with the dead possum. And then they see him and throw it at him. So he gets caught holding the dead possum again now inside and gets sent home. That's honestly pretty funny. He gets in trouble for playing with the dead possum and then he's holding the dead possum again can you imagine as people that's like

what the fuck is wrong with you cam stop with this dead possum what the fuck yeah and his mom is furious like what the fuck is wrong with you and And he's like, it was clowns. They obviously don't believe him. It is pretty crazy that these two clowns were able to get into a full school filled with presumably hundreds of people with only Jonathan seeing them again is this a supernatural thing I don't know uh but that is Jonathan's first interaction with art and now he's very scared and at school that same day we see Sienna and her two best friends who are Brooke and Allie. Not much to report about them. The first thing Allie says to Sienna just stuck with me, or no, excuse me. Allie walks up eating chocolate and Sienna says to her a little early for chocolate. No, which is like, what? I don't know why that line really threw me.

He's nailing the everyday conversations that we're having as women. Oh, my God. So then they are talking about okay this is i'm just now piecing together that the final scene of terrifier one must be a year later like after a year long of surgeries and that's what she's saying because it would have been pretty quick for her to do an interview like immediately after having your face yep completely disfigured yeah yeah so so they are just now talking about that reporter got her face mauled because it just happened and they're saying how crazy that is and now sienna's feeling unsettled and after school they have to go to the costume store, the Halloween store to get replacement

wings because her wings caught on fire. They go into the store and Art the Clown comes in and throughout and all these sightings of him, everyone is like, well, there's going to be like a bunch of losers dressed up as him tonight and so they never really take him seriously even though literally nobody else has ever dressed as him it's always him it's always him god damn it but they never seem to take it seriously sienna does but nobody else does so he's in the Halloween store with them. And he comes into the room where Sienna is trying on the wings and just stands there and stares at her smiling. She is immediately terrified and he's blocking the only exit of the room. exit of the room and so she very slowly has to just walk past him to get out of the room and he just remains statue still but his eyes following her as she walks past her it's pretty scary scene and she rushes to the counter to check out and as he's ringing her up she's obviously really um scared and he tells her

what her total is and she goes fuck i think i left my purse and as she says that the purse slams down on the counter next to her art has brought it up for her and then he after setting it down goes uh behind her and there's a little sunglasses rack and he's trying on all these silly sunglasses like uh ones with uh hard eyes and ones with the little boingy eyes and he's just making silly faces he finds a little clown horn and he's playing with that the cashier is getting annoyed like hey man can you stop fucking around with that shit i thought it was all pretty funny i liked i liked some of this stuff okay and she pays for her stuff and she's able to leave she she gets out of there art stays in the store and flips the sign from open to closed

and goes back to the cashier and he says he wants to mimes that he wants to buy the horn the clown horn and he says that'll be you know 4.99 or whatever it is and art goes into his big plastic santa bag santa bag it's just trash bag santa bag he's still wearing the hat thank you that brought me back that brought me back thank you so much and he's pulling things out of the bag at first it's just like garbage empty beer bottles and then it starts becoming chains and then it's a hammer and then it's a heavy duty trash bag i know we got to know what brand this is is this hefty oh also someone one of the letterboxd reviews that really made me laugh was after he washes his clothes that were completely soaked in blood they're like back to such crisp white so

they were asking what detergent he uses so he uses some good some fine. Yeah, he's not skimping. You make good money as a clown. I guess so. I guess you could take everybody's money that you murder. So now the cashier is saying, okay, I'm going to call the police. This is your very scary man. to a very scary man. And Art picks up one of the beer bottles,

smashes it over the cashier's head, and then takes the smashed end and jabs it into his eye. Ugh, he loves the eyes. Oh, is he like trying on different eyes? Or that's just, now he knows how much it sucks to get your eye. You know what? And in this scene, his eye is just back.

He has normalized for the whole rest of the movie. Why? Why? Whoa. Well, it succeeded. Also, it's going to be way too much work to have a fake eye the whole time. I guess. But no, he doesn't take this guy's eye.

But no, he doesn't take this guy's eye. He just stabs him in the eye and then uses his saw to decapitate him and then stands in the Halloween store display window with the head in his hands covered in blood. As like children walk by being like, oh, look how scary that guy looks. And they're all laughing and he's going, holding the head and, uh, all the kids are just absolutely delighted by it. Uh, so Sienna tells Allie art, the clown was in the store with them. Allie is not believing her saying, you know, there's going to be tons of people dressed like that tonight. You're freaking out. You're also probably still a little stressed from your dad dying. So you need to calm down. She doesn't say that, but that's her vibe.

Okay. Yeah. Her friends just don't really take her seriously and kind of ask. I think she does ask, have you had a medication change recently? Thinking, implying you're hallucinating or like you're just crazy god you're just crazy girl and you're eating chocolate way too early in the day maybe you have a tummy ache from all the early chocolate so then sienna goes home and her and jonathan Jonathan or Jonathan shows her that he has one of their dad's sketchbooks that they've been looking for forever.

That why didn't she tell why didn't he tell her he had and he shows her it's because there's all these drawings of basically every kill we've seen so far of arts. It has like the exterminator's death drawn in detail and Victoria's death. And it also has all these articles pasted in it of each of the deaths when they were in the newspaper or whatever. And they don't know really what to make of it how what why was dad drawing these things guess what you guys oh is the dad terrifier we're never gonna get an answer we're not gonna get an answer about that what isn't that crazy what it's them saying it just never amounts to anything. I think it's,

it's, this is the like Lynchian thing he's trying to do where he's trying to do things that don't make sense in a way that he, he, I think he thinks as being abstract and artsy, but it's just, it's not working for me. It's not working for me.

Okay. So now we go to Allie's house. Allie is getting ready for, there's a Halloween party tonight that they're all going to Allie and, um, uh, Brooke and Sienna. They're all going to meet there. So we see Allie is first handing out some candy before she gets ready and there's a knock on the door and who's there but Art the clown she is laughing you're too old to trick-or-treat it's just like if I think any time if I opened the door and there was a grown man dressed as a clown smiling even on Halloween like no I'm closing that joke i'm closing that door and how about if that was a specific clone who had killed people in your town one year ago has just told you that she's scenario best case scenario this is a grown man who is dressing up as a local serial killer that's your best case scenario so no thank you. She is laughing like it's a funny joke.

And he's shaking his little trash bag for he's trick or treating. He wants the candy. And she's like, I'm not going to give you candy. You're too old to be trick or treating. She closes the door in his face. He knocks again and he shakes his bag more like, give me candy. And she says, if I give give you candy will you go away and he nods and she throws some candy in the bag and sees all the knives and and saws in it and they look down at it and look

back up at each other like oh you just saw what is in my bag and she closes the door in his face and locks it and watches through the window as he walks away and says big old few all right everything's gonna be fine fine. Oh, God. This is daytime, all of this. So there's at least that false sense of security there. I'm scared during the day constantly. I know. I know.

Call the police. Call the police. Not that they'll do anything, but you got to protect yourself. Leave. Run away. She doesn't even check to see if the other doors in the house are locked or closed she just goes upstairs and keeps getting ready she's like okay it's halloween she doesn't even call the police no she's like he's gonna go use those weapons on someone else not me

it's their responsibility to call the police she tries to call sienna but sienna doesn't answer so her mission ends there great and so now we see her getting ready a little while later it's getting dark and she hears glass smash downstairs and she's of course in her bra and underwear but she goes and checks it out regardless. And she goes down and the sliding glass door is completely shattered. And I'm sorry, they meant to be in high school. I think so. Cool. Disgusting.

Okay, keep going. And she sees Art the Clown pouring himself a glass of water at the sink and chugging it. And she just stands there, I suppose, frozen in fear, watching him for a good, perhaps full minute without attempting to tiptoe away until he turns and sees her. And then she makes a run for it. Screaming, screaming, screaming, Runs upstairs into her bedroom. She'll be safe in there. Oh my god, no. Oh my god, it's so stupid.

He gets into her bedroom. He pulls out one of his knives. He has this, it's like a scalpel. And he slices down her eye. Cuts her eye open. Her eye like explodes. Bursts. Oh my god. Bursts, god i guess would be the term you know

goo comes out of the eye and uh he then grabs her hair and takes the scalpel and starts scalping her no rips her hair off again we know he likes to go to the halloween party and everyone's gonna think that it's different great costume god i could tell it was about your hair and um he then uh throws her onto the bed gets on top of her and is slicing her slicing her slicing her with the scalpel a bunch of like tiny cuts well they're not tiny but uh smallish cuts all over uh like probably 20 or 30 of them and then he grabs one of her arms and punches it the wrong way so breaks it so the bones pop out um the other side of it at the elbow and then rips and twists the forearm enough so that he is able to just pull off her forearm oh okay great uh throws that to the side and i think then like cuts her back open too just cuts her more. But she's like, obviously dying. OK.

And so she leaves her. I was so. OK. Yeah. Let's let's keep going. Let's keep going. And he goes downstairs and she starts crawling for her cell phone, which is on the other side of the room. We see her.

And this is she's got an exploded eye no scalp yep arm gone one arm crawling for her phone Jesus Christ and then Art comes back and he has oh god

no how is it gonna get worse he has a jug of bleach and a container of salt no and he pours the bleach all over her and then he takes handfuls of salt and just starts rubbing it into all of her cuts oh my god it was so bad and it's you would just be you would pass out from the pain immediately she would have been absolutely yeah, I think in a lot of these kills, the people are alive for way too long. You would, I think, die. At the very least, they're conscious for way too long.

You would not be conscious anymore. I hate this. I hate this. How much more of this mountain do we have? Oh, no. And then he what? Uh oh. And then he what?

I think, I mean, we're about halfway uh i'll try to go faster then he what uh he rips her face off he rips her face off he sticks his little fingers under his skin and rips her face off and then we cut to sienna getting in an Uber to go to the party. And we see her costume is finished. And yes, Dungeons and Dragons vibe. Very revealing, her mother says. It was giving me like Xena the Warrior Princess with wings. Yeah.

That's kind of what it looked like. And also. Like Zelda. Also like cropped. Completely cropped. a warrior princess with wings yeah that's kind of what it looked like and also like zelda also cropped completely cropped completely cropped it's the look that is completely cropped you guys i'm not doing okay over here yeah i i'm i'm like literally losing my mind like what the fuck is wrong with human beings we're like sick nasty demented i'm so upset the salt thing was very interesting to me because i can i can watch all of the gore very easily like

actually while violent extreme violence is happening in horror movies is actually when I feel the most relaxed because it's the buildup to those moments that is more stressful for me. So I'm like, okay, this is it. This is like as bad as it's going to get. So I can, I know what's like going to happen. I know what I'm getting right now and I don't have to feel stressed anymore. But when he came up with that salt, I was upset no and i don't know i don't know why that is i guess because why do i why do i like maybe it's because it's like torture yeah i guess it's the torture aspect and i feel like you have we have a frame of reference for like salt in a cut right you know what i mean right? Like someone's arm getting pulled off.

It's like I can't even conceive of that. But even if you have a tiny little cut and there gets like salt or lemon in it, you're like, eee! So I feel like you can viscerally understand so bad at more acutely. You don't see it in a lot of movies. You don't see the salt.

It's not something you see all the time. No, you don't see that a lot. So that's surprising too. It's an effectively upsetting moment. I'll give him that. So then we see. She's out in her cropped outfit. It's fully cropped.

Yes. And then we cut to Allie's mom getting home. Oh, no. And calling up to Allie and seeing that the sliding door is smashed. Then getting panicked, running up to Allie's room, opening the door to a very bad situation. You're not going to like what you see. You are not going to like what you see. No. Art and Allie are on the bed.

He is sitting next to her, just peeling her skin off. She is almost a complete pile of goo. She is missing most of her skin off she is almost a complete pile of goo uh she is missing most of her skin some of her limbs are peeled down to the bone she's just like ripping her skin off laughing laughing he's still wearing his hat thank you okay and it really makes it better oh my god he he looks at her mom and is laughing and then ali moans no like she's still alive which just is not possible uh mom screams and cut away now back to the party sienna is has arrived, worried about Allie, but

Brooke is saying, don't worry, she'll be here. It's all going to be fine. Back to Allie's house. Some trick-or-treaters arrive at the door and Art the Clown answers with candy in the mom's hollowed out skull. Oh god he's fast and they uh take their blood covered candy and one tries to take one of the kids tries to take two pieces art slaps his hand and said and holds up one finger you only get one thought that was pretty funny damien has a really good sense of humor you gotta give him that uh you know what i think think I gotta give this to David Howard Thornton because apparently he was a big part in writing the art character.

Okay, thank God. I don't want to give it to David. Now we see that Sienna is getting a little drunk at the party and so she's less stressed. Alcohol solves everything. It's a really good way to

relax and feel good and there's no downsides to it no especially i haven't heard of them if you're in real um actual danger yeah yeah we see that sienna's mom is at home and she gets in a fight with Jonathan. I can't remember why. I guess he's still in trouble over the dead possum thing. So she's chugging some wine and their fight escalates to the point that Jonathan storms out of the house. I don't know why. But as he does, she hears something in the garage and she goes to check it out. Her car is covered in shaving cream.

It says bitch on the windshield. She calls Sienna so mad. You won't believe what Jonathan did. He trashed, trashed my car. There's shaving cream and toilet paper all over it. trashed trashed my car there's shaving cream and toilet paper all over it sienna's so drunk at some point in in this party that she looks like she's about to make out with a plastic skeleton she's looking at this plastic skeleton like he's so sexy and i'm like okay is she drunk or is she on drugs and we do do find out, thankfully, that she her friend Brooke did spike her drink with some Molly.

So this is at least not an interpretation. Very bad friend. Yes. And Jonathan is now running down the street. I don't know if he's trying to find Sienna to because he's feeling scared. I can't remember, but he sees a van parked on the street that, uh, we have seen before associated with art. And he goes to look in it and sees the little clown girl on the seat and her eyes are glowing yellow. So again, I don't know where the line between reality and supernatural is here,

but the mom, Sienna's mom calls her. She's already out there. They're talking. Brooke is trying to get Sienna off the phone. You can't talk to your mom while you're rolling. This is ecstasy 101. You can't do that. And she's saying like, mom, mom,athan wouldn't do that he would never do that and mom i don't tell you enough how much i love you and we kind of believe jonathan wouldn't do that we're suspecting somebody else did someone in a little hat might have someone in a small little top hat might have had something to do with it and she takes a bucket and a sponge and is cleaning off the car and as she wipes the shaving cream off that driver's side window art is inside points a double barrel barreled sawed off shotgun at her head and blows her head clean off okay well at least she got an easy death yeah she got a pretty look yeah and jonathan is now running back home because he's scared of the little clown

girl and he runs into his mom his mom's corpse disfigured corpse seated at the dining table with all the candles lit and the table set art comes out in an apron with a dish of mashed potatoes and starts ringing the ringing the dinner bell oh my god theatrical he likes to put on a little show yeah and he's gestures to jonathan come on comes down it's dinner time and he sets the mashed potatoes down on the table and he takes a handful of mashed potatoes and shoves it into the hole where the mom's head was as if he's feeding her jonathan runs upstairs and he runs to get the sword and he almost gets there but not quite art gets him first and injects him in the neck and he is unconscious.

Where is he getting this stuff? I think it was he like killed that doctor in the beginning. The beginning is in like a medical office. So he did get some supplies there. And now Sienna has seen little clown girl in the at the party and was screaming. And so Brooke and her boyfriend are taking Sienna home because they think she's like freaking out having a bad trip. She gets a call from Jonathan. He's saying, meet me at the old carnival. And we see that it is the little clown girl speaking in Jonathan's voice somehow.

Oh, God. Meet me at the old carnival. The old abandoned carnival. That's what I was thinking. Does anywhere have an old carnival? Does anywhere just leave a carnival up that's not being used? You don't want to meet there in the middle of the night. That's for sure.

Yeah. If so, let's avoid it. Let's not go used. Don't you don't want to meet there in the middle of the night. That's for sure. Yeah. If so, let's avoid it. Let's not go on Halloween. Okay. And I'm going to go through it fast, but I do want you guys to know that I paused at this point and there's 50, 50 minutes left of the movie at this point. Oh, that's the worst feeling in the world. No.

So they are driving and decide to, she convinces Brooke and her boyfriend to take her to the old carnival. They say, didn't a little girl get murdered here a couple of years ago? That's sets Sienna's little alarms off. Remembering that she saw that snippet in the dad's journal, that newspaper article. She gets out of the car. She's i gotta go find jonathan so now just brooke and her boyfriend are in the car and brooke says she's been so weird since her dad died of her he got a brain brain tumor that like made him really crazy and abusive and he like didn't know who he was anymore and he would get really really drunk and at the end he got really drunk and he drove into a transformer that exploded and

so he burned to death jesus she's been really weird ever since that happened so weird ever since that she needs to calm down so uh Sienna is texting with Jonathan. Where are you? I can't find you. And he gets a text back that says, I'm stuck at the Terrifier, which is a fun house type, a spooky fun house at the carnival. Okay. And we see in the car, Brooke and her boyfriend are now doing coke and we know they're not long for this world this night is oh man i would not want to be doing drugs and then

get murdered that sounds so awful that sounds really bad i know i was trying to think does it make it better or worse no worse for sure yeah so her boyfriend says he has to pee he's gonna he's gonna go pee around the back of the car and as he does art arrives and he has the sword he's taking that from sienna's room and he uses that sword to cut off art's dick and stab him a whole bunch of times where his dick was and then he punches through the uh as this happening brooke is brooke sees it and is screaming and getting in the driver's seat getting trying to turn the car on to drive away but art gets there first punches out the window i'm thinking please god don't put the dick in her mouth he has dick in his hand and thank god he didn't he didn't do it he didn't do it

but i really thought that's where we were going um he must drop the dick at some point uh and brooke is able to get out of the other side of the car and runs into the carnival as well screaming for sienna so now they're both running through different haunted houses fun house type things so it's kind of it's kind of like fun set designing things makes for a good climactic third act setting and she eventually runs into a dead end sienna can hear her screaming but they can't figure out where the each of the other one is and art gets to brook first and corners her and has that chair leg with all the little knives and there it is nails in it and uh he's wielding that threateningly, like waving it in her face, but we see behind his back,

he has a jar of acid, uh, that he tricks her, tricks her. I don't know. He's still wearing that throws the acid, throws the acid in her face. Her face is bubbling up. throws the acid in her face. Her face is bubbling up. Oh my God. And then he goes at her with the chair leg and is like smashes her chest in. And so it's like completely broken in. Like her ribs are all crushed.

And he then reaches in and like splits her ribs open and is combing through her insides and laughing, having a good time and then sienna comes in and fight sees this finds this and they have a fight and sienna's holding her own a little bit she she finds a weapon somewhere along the way and she gets some good hits in as well better than anyone in terror fire one she like gets she gets a hit in with his own weapon with the nails and the knives in it in his skull we're thinking that could be a kill shot it's not but it could have been and i don't blame her for thinking that it was. And so he eventually gets the upper hand. He goes after Jonathan, who is somewhere kind of half conscious in the carnival.

And he's now cutting Jonathan with the scalpel. with the scalpel and uh sienna's also like in really bad shape and trying to um get to them to save jonathan and then art leaves to find something maybe get another weapon of some sort he doesn't look too stressed about anything ever he's just kind of doing his own thing. And he's like, Oh, I got, I got to go. I'll be right back. And Sienna finds Jonathan and holds him. And Jonathan says, this is how it had to be. I like, I like get it now, dad. This is what dad was writing about. They needed you here. You're the only one that can stop him. As if this is some sort of the only one that can stop him as if this is some sort of fate thing or he maybe her dad had foreseen this wait what what were the signs that okay i have no idea henley i don't think there's any any clarity in the movie about this maybe i wrong. I refuse to think about it any harder. Too hard. All right. Fair, fair, fair. Yeah. Okay. It's fate.

Yeah. He says it's what, it's what daddy saw. You're the only one who can stop him. What? We don't know. Okay. Art gets there. He has this chain whip thing with scissors at the end of it and is whipping them both in slow motion with these scissors that get like caught under their skin and then rip out ew it's bad and but she has she has her little final girl turn moment here where she grabs the scissors from him as he's whipping her with them and she's able to get them away from him and then she whips him a bunch with it this is she gets that uh uh no she pulls a like metal pole off a fence and impales him through the skull with it like through his face vertically okay surely he's dead now nope

still alive still alive his hat's still on. His hat's still on. Through the skull, but not through the hat. That's right. And he's not dead. He's at some point strangling Sienna and she's losing consciousness. Jonathan finds his gun that he hides in his little ankle thing and shoots him a bunch in the chest he's still not dead and Sienna now wakes up in a kind of dreamlike state and sees her mom there her mom is saying Sienna baby wake up and she's crying in her mom's arms like I don't know what

to do mom I don't know how to beat him and Jonathan says Sienna get away from her that's not mom and we turn and look and the mom is dressed as art and then it's the little girl clown dressed as art and she runs away and she's um uh Jonathan art knocks Jonathan unconscious at some point oh art runs away with jonathan so now sienna is chasing them again to try to save jonathan and gets to art art pushes her down through these wooden planks that go to almost a dungeon floor she falls on all these rocks and he spits on her and okay this dungeon has this kind of very heaven and hell imagery there's like red lights from the floor and white lights from above and and he jumps down and he has her sword and he stabs her through the belly with it and twists it a bunch of times and knocks her

down through this hole to a further lower level that's just like red smoke now and we're in fully like abstract territory now like nothing is making any sense at this point no one's having a good time no one is having a good time right now and in the hole that she has fallen into it is she's in one of those water tanks that would be part of a magic act you know if you're like wearing handcuffs in a water tank and you have to undo your um whatever she's in one of those and she can't get out of it and she dies drowning it seems and jonathan wakes up now from being knocked unconscious by art wakes up to art eating his hand what and he calls out for sienna that wakes her back up in the tank and the sword starts glowing yellow what oh my god it's like harry potter all of a sudden her wound glows yellow and heals

and she is able to get out of the water and we see art is now eating jonathan's legs and what the fuck but she's able to come back she gets out she gets her sword she chops his neck and he is like bleed this is looking like a kill shot but we've seen a kill shot before and he doesn't die but he's looking mad now he gives her like a really mad look and he smiles really big one last time and she chops his head clean off okay flies off and uh she goes to embrace jonathan they're crying it's over it's over it's over and then they hear something and we see the little girl clown walking to where art is finding his decapitated head and holding it up to her ear like he's whispering something to her and she's laughing and laughing and laughing and then she looks at them her eyes glow yellow again and then she walks away into into a little door

and uh there you go phew okay it's over like what where did that little girl go what do you mean it's over and then the credits roll but then there's a mid-credits scene which thank god i like left it playing not thank god who fucking cares i would not have mattered if i had seen this scene or not um but uh we get a shot of the Miles County or whatever psychiatric facility. And we see inside is Victoria after having attacked the reporter. She's now in this facility. And we see her have a full pregnant belly. And she squats and just buckets of blood start pouring out from between

her legs she's dipping her hands in the blood and writing on the wall she writes vicky plus art with a heart around it then gives birth to art's decapitated head and and that's that's the end what the fuck god oh my god yeah they're definitely gonna make a third one huh they're absolutely this is a runaway success it made a good a good amount of money so i bet they will that was horrible that was horrible that was horrible yeah the sun has slowly gone down in this room and i have no lights what a metaphor what a metaphor and it's totally mimicking my heart yeah we are we are, the three of us, drenched in darkness. Wow, Sammy, I am so sorry that you watched these last night. I know, Sammy.

I am so sorry. Can you see how I could prefer the first one? Yes, actually, fully. Even with a woman being cut in half hot dog style, I still... Crotch to heart? Still preferred it Yeah I get it

I get it That was horrible Okay I have to go Actually Because I am on a Tight tight schedule That was sweet folks Sweet

I literally love you guys So much And I think next time We hang out We should just chat And there should be None of this like Horror movie stuff That keeps Seeming to get in the way Next time Next time we hang out Meaning next just chat and there should be none of this like horror movie stuff that keeps

seeming to get in the way next time we hang out meaning next time we record an episode of our horror movie podcast yeah if we could avoid talking about a horror movie next time i would love that interesting for me interesting i bet we won't do that Probably not But it won't be this Because we already did this And it's fucking done And we have a new Enemy And

I would love I don't like that the list Is growing Look I don't want To have enemies But You've given us no choice The horror bros

Have given us no choice The horror bros Have given us no choice I was trying to think Of like what Because I do like gore and so i'm like what context do i like gore it's making me question myself like do i like gore because i don't like this this movie is gaslighting oh my god he is motherfucking i guess it's just because it's like

she the character none of the story is surprising in any way. And also there's no connections between any of it. Like the dad doesn't make sense. But it's also like not having a story. Do you know what I mean? Like it's like some gore movies are like, yeah, that's all you're getting. That's the point. Which is what I kind of respect about the first one. It's like at least we're not trying to pretend to be anything else other than a movie that's literally just here to show you violence and gore.

Mike, all right. I get it. And in this one. This, like, magic narrative is really weird in this one. It's bizarre. Also, two and a half hours is too long. Way too long. Damien.

It's way too long. With a mid-credit scene. Another, it's, like, not even done when the credits roll. You gotta cut it down. you gotta cut it down you gotta cut it down well we did it we did it bless you maybe next week we won't do a horror movie except that we definitely will but it definitely won't be this and hopefully it'll be a more fun one um not all movies not remember henley not all horror movies make us feel this way i know no they really don't some of them i come out and i feel alive and and fully fully at peace with myself but now now right now i just feel like a dark hole yeah um and look at the room i'm in

i know you really are all of a sudden in the last like five minutes you're like fully sitting in darkness it's like completely dark where you are. I can almost not see you. Yeah. Okay. Listeners, tell us an antidote for what we have just experienced. Henley likes the Lizzo. What is it? It was Seth Meyers.

Day drinking. Day drinking. It's so fun. Definitely watch that if you guys haven't seen it. It's so fun. It's a perfect antidote. Yeah. It's a perfect antidote.

Yeah. And let us know any others that we may need. Any nice little pick-me-ups to save us from this being the taste left over in our mouths. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.

Yuck. Oh, my God. Tammy, good job, though. You did such a good job. Two movies. Thank you. Two whole goddamn movies in one episode. I tried, I knew.

I mean, I think doing them two in one is the way to do it, because it makes them both less detailed, you know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay, love you guys. Love you guys. No voices.

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