Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE ABYSS

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

Deep water aliens, nuclear missiles, and a variety of ships and subs AKA a vessel head's dream come true - we're recapping James Cameron's 1989 film The Abyss! Join us as we learn why it's important to set boundaries with aliens, including but not limited to: do NOT taste the alien you just met.The Abyss is streaming on Amazon Prime. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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She's not allowed to ever watch it again. And she loves it. So don't do that to her. Help Henley see Hocus Pocus again. And until then, enjoy this week's episode. We love you. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared for scary movies.

I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared for scary movies. And I like scary movies. I like telling my scared friends about them. And this is what this podcast is for. It's what we do. Correct. Now, you know, if you didn't already and you took a wild guess on a brand new fucking random podcast, then, hey, this is what we do. What we do. It's what we do. What we also do is say, what's we also do is say what's up with us

so what is up with us this week okay you guys so it's getting a little colder here in new york it's not that cold yet so i'm obviously a wuss but i've already broken out my heating pad. And if anyone does not use a heating pad, I'm going to tell you right now, it is like a game changer. Having a heating pad is honestly the best thing. I think it's my favorite thing I own. It's my favorite thing that I own is my heating pad. That's a fun question. Favorite thing you own. A heating pad is a good one. I love my heating pad so much, but I've also recently discovered that I need to set some boundaries with my heating pad. Oh, God. I'm not exaggerating. I need to have some rules around the heating pad.

Like, I don't think I can use it on weekdays. Oh, my God. That's really strict. I feel like that's wrong. Okay, convince me otherwise. So you can only be hot on the weekends? So here's what happens. So first of all, I'm working from home, right? You get too comfortable. So I'm not going anywhere.

Once I put the heating pad on me, I like can't get up again. It's so hard to get back up. What about weeknights? Yeah, but I work like later in the night. So it needs to be like maybe like 8 p.m. afterwards.

I can start using the heating. No heating pad during work hours. No heating pad during work. Like that's just the rule. I think that's the rule now. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Do you do where?

What are we talking? Is it on your back? Do you sit on it? Do you lay it over your lap? Where is this heating pad going? It's always on my belly. Always. Okay, great.

Great. I like to move it around. When I'm with a heating pad, I like to lean against it on my back for a while. And then I'm like, okay, great. Now it's like a little blanket. Okay, great. Top of the legs. That was fun. Now it's on my belly. I always have it on my back for a while and then I'm like okay great now it's like a little blanket okay great that was fun now it's on my belly

I always have it on my belly I only need to mix it up. It just makes my tummy feel good maybe that's what you just trying a new relationship with the heating pad no okay fair you really considered it and then you gave your own

answer and I respect it and fair um what about you guys um do you guys use mine is similar i you know you've already tried to get me to purchase a washington-based heating pad because i left mine in los angeles and i'm not going to do it. What I do miss is my bidet. And we haven't talked about bidets in a bit here. And of course, that's your favorite thing. Emily, we need to know what your favorite thing is. I have to use a toilet that doesn't have a bidet. Like, I don't know, a big loser.

It's really unpleasant and I hate it and I just miss it. And Emily, I remember you had bought one and I'm wondering, we never got an update. I feel like it didn't work out for you, did it? I have no update because it is, you're gonna hate this. It's still a box. It wasn't that it didn't work out.

I haven't attempted. Because I was gonna do it. I thought it was gonna be like an easy thing. I could do it. My bathroom, as you know, is now complete. And the one thing that's missing is a bidet. But I got nervous that I was gonna have to do something with the water line. As soon as I heard water line, I was like, I'm out. But you're so good at household stuff. You could do it. I believe in you. Oh, thank you. It's not too hard. You just turn the little main line off. Just the little screw counterclockwise or whatever.

But where's the screw? It's like the same thing that when your toilet's overflowing, you like turn it off to stop the water running. It's that same thing. Oh, it's in my toilet? It's easy peasy. Oh, I could do that. I thought it was like, you know, like if I had to go outside of the house and like turn

a thing off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. With a bidet attachment? No. Full bidet maybe. Bidet attachment. Easy peasy. Sponsored by Tushy.

Sponsored by Tushy. Our list of sponsors is just, it's out of control. And real. Yeah. Real. Very, very real. It's real and long um one other thing i just wanted to say real quick was a quick apology to toby hooper it's tobe it's tobe and that is a name in two episodes of films that he directed texas chainsaw massacre and uh poltergeist um he yeah he died in 2017 so um i'm sending apologies to him up above

apologies to up above well yeah and oh you know we can just think about it like we were on a nickname basis yeah we call him we call him to, we call him Toby. We call him Tobe. We should just call him Tobe. But what's up with you, Emily? I bleached my hair. She did. You know this. You know this.

It looks so good. Thank you. It is the it's the only new thing that has happened to me all year um and I and it's fun it's fun it's weird I don't think I've ever done such a at least what feels to me like such a drastic

appearance change it feels big it's not that big it's just hair but it like feels I look in the mirror because I adjusted it I look in the mirror and I'm like oh like I'm like surprised every time and my eyes have to adjust but I just I just needed I gotta say I'm already

used to it because it feels like your hair is meant to look like this I really love it I mean but Emily looks good with every hair but I'm really feeling this one thank you it was my dream it was my dream hair that I was always a little bit like oh ooh, that would be a big choice. And it would, you'd have to like stick with it for a while because it takes, it's a whole

fucking thing to bleach your hair. So I never did it. But hey, man, it's end times. So who cares? Like who cares? While we can. I don't have to worry about the future at all. There is no future.

So go. I just, I just fucking did it and it's fine thank you i feel very supported it's very nice um but that's that's pretty much that's pretty much it oh i guess i'll give a kitten update who's like he's so big now he's so big. He now has the fluffiest tail of any of our cats. Oh, so he's like part Maine Coon maybe. I think he's I'm fairly certain he's part Maine Coon. He's getting big. He's a little teenager. He's brave. He's a little teen so he's a little

annoying. He's very loud. He just like makes a lot of noise. He finds ways to make a lot of noise. But he's such a sweetie and I love him so much. And he's just doing so well. And can you believe he just walked right into our yard and our lives? It was meant to be.

It was meant to be. Our sweet boy. Sweet boy. I love him. I love him. He's good. Well, we should get into this week's movie because it's a long one. And it is the abyss it came out in 1989 written and directed by james cameron starring ed harris mary elizabeth

mastrantonio not my Mary Elizabeth. Oh, not that one. Michael Biehn and Todd Graff. And it is streaming on Amazon Prime. And, you know, for all our listeners out there, you better believe this is a vessel movie. Big time. Big time vessel movie. Yeah. The theme for this week's horror was an underwater horror, which because, my God, water is so scary.

So scary. So scary. We were all keeping our fingers crossed that, what's that movie? Is it literally called Underwater? Yep, it's called Underwater. Underwater. Yes. That Chris and Stuart flick would win because we all wanted to watch it.

And it lost comically, like by a huge margin. And yeah, instantly nobody cares about that movie. I guess not. So we did. Everyone cares about this movie, which is cool because I bethard listeners will know, she is very scared of sharks. Very, very, very, very lucked out by that one vote. So don't ever let anybody tell you that your vote doesn't matter. Exactly, exactly.

And this is what we're talking about. The stakes are this high high it's this right here um and uh because i was kind of busy with work uh i did watch it but i think henley did you also watch it i watched the first hour and a half okay okay so we'll we'll uh start by tag teaming and then I'll finish us off on my own. Take it right away. I should have watched only the last hour. I thought about asking you to and then I was like, that's pretty weird. Hi, everybody.

It is cocktail hour and this week's cocktail is a Waters of Chaos. Not so much because of what happens in this movie, but what happens in the making of this movie, which sounds like a real nightmare. To make this drink, you will need one and a half ounces of Geneva, a quarter ounce of white rum, a quarter ounce of green chartreuse, three quarters an ounce of lime juice, and a half an ounce of simple syrup. You will shake all ingredients with ice and strain into an ice-filled old-fashioned glass and garnish with a lime wedge. Geneva and chartreuse are pretty expensive, but so was the making of this film, so it's all part of the theme, baby. Of this film. So it's all part of the theme baby.

Um. But they're also really delicious. And worth the investment. If you're trying to step up your home bar. Cheers. James Cameron. A lover of the long film. Oh so. So long and so like.

So much work goes into this. They're big films and he's like okay so that's really where this movie gets interesting I was tipped off to this by a listener on our Instagram Julie Ward thank you so much and

also if you just read like one thing about this movie you find out but we should get into the trivia of the abyss oh Emily you are gonna into the trivia of The Abyss. Oh, Emily, you are going to hate the state of actors' rights on this film. It's not good. God damn it. It's really bad. It's probably the worst one we've done.

It's the worst. When did this movie come out? 1989. Okay, first of all, Ed Harris wouldn't even talk about this movie for like decades. He said that he had such a traumatic experience making the film that he refused to go into detail about it for years. One of the few things he said about it was asking me how I was treated on

the abyss is like asking a soldier how he was treated in Vietnam. Which is a little. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's like, but I hear you. And also add my man maybe not that one maybe not that metaphor i mean it is really really quite crazy though so they actually filmed they did film 40 of the movie underwater um all all of the actors had to get scuba certified um and they had i think the largest

underwater set maybe to this day ever ever built they like found how many underwater sets probably not a ton because they're very expensive and seem really scary um especially this one which was built in a abandoned nuclear reactor um so they filled it with 7.5 million gallons of water and that's where they built like a whole underground um rig thing or underwater rig thing and uh like fact that I learned that I thought was interesting. I don't know how deep this thing was, but this is just, you know, for the logic of the movie, every 32 feet you go on underwater is equal to one atmosphere of pressure. And so like 64 feet. Whoa, that's not that much.

Right. And they go really deep in this movie. Why would anyone want to do that? We're not meant to be underwater. We are certainly not meant to be deep underwater. What are you thinking, people who do that? But because production was so hard and time consuming, they like never finished a scene in a day. Everything took a long time.

James Cameron asked the actors to pee in their wetsuits to save time. So they they just wet themselves. And James Cameron and Ed Harris both almost drowned. Ed Harris reportedly punched James Cameron in the face when he kept filming after Ed Harris was drowning. Also apparently punched some like the diver that was holding him down while he was drowning because they thought he was like he was going up too fast. And you can get the bends. Yeah, you can. He was literally drowning and he's like, well, if I don't go up, I'm gonna drown.

The main actress in it, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio had a full mental breakdown on the set. Michael Bean said that there was a day in which in the break room people started

throwing couches out windows to relieve their frustrations which is like who are these really strong actors throwing couches no i have a story too yeah no i didn't drown but i saw whoa i saw a crazy thing people throwing couches out of windows. Yeah, no, I definitely had similar experience on the movie. Ed Harris also said that he just spontaneously burst into tears driving home from set one day. And I was like, is that not something that people do regularly because I feel like I've done that many a time and I wouldn't necessarily report it to you know the press that's just a regular tough day at work for me wow another thing Ed Harris there to explain to Entertainment Weekly, he said, we were guinea pigs. In a way, Jim wasn't quite sure how it was all going to go down.

In the drowning scene, I was screaming at Mary Elizabeth to come back and wake up. And I was slapping her across the face. And I'd seen that they'd run out of film in the camera and nobody said anything. And then Mary Elizabeth stood up and said, we're not animals and walked off the set. They just keep slapping me around. She's also topless in this scene. It's like a big dramatic scene where she's topless. They're slapping her, like punching her in the chest.

And he just let it keep filming while the camera was out of film. Oh, my god. Awful. Just awful. He sounds horrible. He does. Orson Scott Card described working with James Cameron as hell on wheels. He claimed that Cameron was nice to him. He claimed that Cameron was nice to him because he could afford to walk away while he was miserable and unkind to everyone else

he also stated that unless he changes his way of working with people i hope he never directs anything of mine my god yeah i don't think any of these actors ever worked with him again michael b michael bean had worked with him on his two previous films he did uh terminator and then alien and then this um which is a pretty pretty great track record and michael bean was in all three and then never worked with him again but he's apparently supposed to be in one of the avatar sequels so okay one of my god they're supposed to be like four it's insane for who for who how old are we going to be when they come out dead i mean we'll all be dead we've been hearing about these sequels for so long so long um oh uh the last thing i wanted to say is

just that there's like the main romantic relationship we'll get into more of this later but it's like a recently separated couple in the middle of a divorce and um james cameron has been married five times five interesting seems like maybe he's i don't think is unrelated to yeah all the rest of this stuff um but so he said that he based the character of lindsey who is the main uh a woman in it mary elizabeth and he based the character of Lindsay, who is the main woman in it, Mary Elizabeth, and he based her on Gail Ann Hurd, who is the producer of this film. And they were dating and then got married

and then got divorced during the early production of the movie. So their whole relationship went through its life cycle during pre-production and production of The Abyss. Five marriages is a hell of a lot of marriages. Yeah, why are we getting married? Why are we getting married at this point?

Especially when you're like, okay, fine. I mean, I've been divorced, so I gotta say one, sure. Two, maybe even, you know what? We're I got to say like one. Sure. Two, maybe even. You know what? We're hopeful again. We got to give you that. If you're the third spouse, you got to be like, well, I don't know about the number four and five.

Come on. Come on. Number five, I think, has actually been the longest, though. I think they've been married like 15 years. Most of them were like two or three years. Then I'm wrong. And he figured it out. And congratulations.

He had a lot of practice and he finally did it right. There you go. James. Good for you, James. Okay, should we watch this trailer? Yes. Let's watch the trailer. God, I hate that bitch.

Probably shouldn't have married her then huh hang on gentlemen here's a mindless pit baby two and a half miles straight down. It was a little hive. It was like a dance of light. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. I don't think they mean us any harm. I don't know how I know them. Whatever happens is up to us. That guy scares me more than anything that's down there. We all see what we want to see. Coffee looks and he sees hate and fear.

You have to look with better eyes than that. This one's not for me. Yeah, Emily, what are your immediate reactions? No, thank you. oh my god oh no no no no no there is really scary but it's so scary i don't think this other other than the fact that underwater is scary i don't think this movie is too scary no No, it's very 80s and it's not really a horror movie, I'd say. I think it's PG-13, too.

PG-13 and it's like an action movie. We're going to be recapping action. I mean, that makes sense. That feels like his vibe. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think we should just get into it. I think we should just start talking't know what I think we should just get into it. I think we should just start talking about it. I think we should just get into it. If you're a new parent,

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submarine scene. Everything is red. It's a bunch of people who are shouting orders at each other and saying things like, Captain, I note the sound is coming towards us like 60 meters, 120 meters, you know, like very. Yeah, it's like 120 meters. Like nothing goes that fast.

That kind of shit. Yes. Cool, cool, cool. So they then get hit with whatever this thing is and water starts pouring into the submarine. It is very scary, very tense. Things are not looking good for these folks right and the captain says release the like um emergency whatever like floaty thing that signals that we're in trouble so they release that and um basically go down we as an audience a light zoom by the submarine that looks not like a fish or a missile. This is also kind of in the end of the Cold War. There's a lot of the like Soviet backdrop of like, oh, is it the Soviets?

It's not. It's not. There is. Don't give that away too quickly though sammy because there is definitely lots of talk of soviets that's true but we see immediately the light is not the soviets unless the soviets have figured out a way to have a really incandescent beautiful alien-like presence true in the ocean they could have i wouldn't put it past them sub goes down basically the like light thing shakes up the submarine they can't see what's happening

and when they can see again they're going straight into a a wall underground like rocks and basically i think yeah crash and not fully explode not fully explode, but it's not good. And then the U.S. government is notified. There's a big, big ship, another vessel, so many vessels in this movie. There are so many vessels. That's just one vessel. That's just one. Wow.

This is number two and it's a big military ship and they get the info and they're basically like we're we've got to uh go down and find out what happened was it the soviets um and that Probably, honestly, probably, yes. And they basically commandeer a experimental underground drilling, like oil drilling rig. This woman, Lindsay, one of our main characters, who is, for some reason, I guess she's called because she designed this underwater rig um she's the architect of it and the guy running it is ed harris his name is bud and they get the call that you know the u.s government is commandeering this and they're like well hey wait a second like we didn't agree to this and they're like we'll pay you three times your average salary and they're like okay hell yeah cool which is like whenever the u.s government is like hey go check out this weird thing we don't know what it is ask we'll throw money at you more than three times i feel like that's not that much

yeah ed harris you're also getting a little bit of that feeling that you get from like event horizon and it's feeling like event horizon already no thanks don't worry it's not it's not but you know the feeling of like the crew the the um yes the ragtag crew of like yeah we're like alien also like alien except i will say i feel like they're a little less well-defined in this than I've seen in other movies. There's one or two standouts, but I feel like, you know, we talked about The Thing, too, where you kind of get a sense of each of their personalities. I don't think you'd get as much in this one. But apparently in the extended cut, you do. Oh, well, you gotta watch the three-hour extended cut you do. I watched the. Oh, well, you got to watch the three hour extended cut.

Honestly, the thing that's given the most care in terms of trying to have like character definition in the beginning portion is defining Mary Elizabeth, a.k.a. Lindsay, as being a bitch. Everyone calls her a bitch. In the trailer, the first thing we get is, God, I hate that bitch. Which I was like, oh my God, okay. Yes. Okay, 1980s, we are just doing that? Cool. Someone calls her the queen bitch of the universe.

Very cool. Is she the only woman on this crew? No, there's one other woman. She's like one of the guys though, you know? Yeah, she's one of the guys. Yeah, you know the tag. Does she also call Lindsay a bitch? though you know yeah she's one of the guys yeah you know does she also call Lindsay a bitch yeah I think she says something like I think she's the one who calls her queen bitch to the universe maybe I can't

remember so it's okay look you're either one of the guys or you're a bitch and that's the only option for women and if that's not enough then go cry at home they're all upset that she's joined the crew because obviously she's not enough, then go cry at home. They're all upset that she's joined the crew because obviously she's not been there for a period of time

while she's estranged from her husband, Ed Harris. And they're all pissed that she's back. And she's like, I'm here because I built this fucking thing. And she's not a bitch at all. No, she's not a bitch. She's really nice. What the.s government is doing is they're sending like a seal team to this rig to um investigate and so it's like this like ragtag group of oilers like a blue collar crew meeting like this very like military SEAL team guys. And Lindsay basically hitches a ride with them and is like, if they're going, I'm going.

And so that's how we all come together. And yes, we find out that Bud is her ex. Oh, my God. Can you believe it? Can you believe it? The tension. I mean, that's a horror movie in and of itself. What are the odds? One crew member that is kind of the the the standout secondary character is his name is Hippie and he has a pet rat.

And I kind of think Hippie is hot because he looks a little bit like Scoot McNary. So just throwing that out there. Sure okay I see it I guess um immediately Bud and Lindsay get into a fight he says she says something like I invested four years into this rig and he's like you only invested three years into me and she's like well I have to have priorities and like storms out and he gets so mad that he throws his wedding ring into the toilet which in an underwater uh rig is like that blue chemical stuff that apparently uh real oh well he like throws it in and and storms out and then comes back a moment later and fishes it out he's a romantic at heart he fishes it out though and it like dyes his whole hand blue.

And it's blue for the rest of the movie. Which is kind of fun. You get a sense that maybe he still has feelings for her. You get that sense. Despite all of it. Maybe. Drew and the SEAL team are getting ready to go down to basically investigate the like sunken submarine. And

SEAL team has this it's called oxygenated fluoro fluorocarbon fluid and it's basically oxygenated water that they say is what you you breathe you can breathe this liquid when you're really really deep to prevent your basically your lungs from imploding um and this is a real thing this is actually a real thing and the um hippie is like that sounds crazy and he's like give me your rat and he grabs the rat from him and sinks it into this little tub of this oxygenated fluorocarbon fluid or whatever no hippies like come on man no like she's she's you're gonna kill her you're gonna kill she's drowning and the guy the seal team guy's like no like don't worry it's that i breathe this myself

like yes it's a scary like adjustment period like she's got to get used to it um and you see the rat no she doesn't we don't need to do an experiment on the rat you see the rat like struggling and freaking out but then kind of acclimating to it and breathing normally underwater and this is real they just did it for real on this rat which is it really just blew my mind that we can actually breathe liquid. I just had no idea. It's really upsetting to watch, especially knowing afterwards that it is real, because the poor rat is like really struggling. It's really scared.

They actually cut it out of the UK version because some UK veterinarian deemed it like not not OK, like that it's animal cruelty. Which, you know, fair. Yeah, just because it's not gonna die doesn't mean it's not cruel to put it through. Yeah. The AHA, the American Humane Association also was like, this movie's unacceptable.

Because you literally drowned a rat on screen. Yikes. So, they dive in to go to the sub and it's creepy and spooky and underwater is just really fucking scary and the fear of deep water is called thalassophobia i wrote it down because there was a buzzfeed article once that was just like photos of really scary you know know, like underwater cliffs, like just looking at that,

it gives me so much anxiety. I really get stressed. I think if you don't have a fear of water, this movie is not going to be scary for you at all. Is there anyone though that could look at like deep, deep, deep water and not get scared? I don't know. If you feel that way, please let us know because how?

I can't even fathom it. How? Yeah. How? It doesn't make sense. Water is so scary. Deep water. Well, it's the same as space. It's this existential fear. Yeah, because you're so out of, it's so not where we're supposed to be. And you feel so. Yeah, you're at such a disadvantage. And it's so dark and big and you can't possibly see. And everything else there is evolved to live there.

And so anything... Everything else there is used to it. Anything has the upper hand over you. Ugh. I hate it. But, okay, so a few of them go into the submarine. It's full of dead bodies. Obviously, the whole crew died.

So there's dead bodies floating there's one a crab crawls out of his mouth and it's really gross and it's apparently james cameron's brother and it was a crab crawled out of his mouth for real i guess i don't really know how you would fake that but i was just imagining holding a little crab in your mouth until someone says action and then having to let it crawl out of your mouth is just so gross. I didn't realize that was a crab. And also like act dead and like not react. Yuck.

They looked like huge spiders but I guess that's all that crabs are. Crabs are underwater spiders. Underwater spiders. Gross. So one of the crew members sees I think sees this happen and um has starts to have a panic attack in their underwater space suit one thing that's happening constant

one thing that's that's literally what it is it's an underwater space suit um one thing that's happening throughout this whole scene too is and anytime they're underwater, really, is just this constant like Darth Vader breathing noise in the background. The breathing is so scary. It's just like constantly in the background. And so this guy starts having a panic attack and obviously his breathing gets elevated. He starts to feel like he's going to pass out. So Edris is like don't worry you just stay here by yourself i'm i'll go forward you you don't just hold on to

this rope and don't let go and uh if you need me just tug on the rope so you know how that always works out really well like starts panicking and he pulls the rope and it's like jammed in between a metal thing that immediately like cuts it and so he pulls it back and it's just an end of a rope and so he's really panicking and we don't see what he sees but we see that he sees something very bright like the lighting just really changes in the little compartment that he's in. And he just freaks out. And then it cuts to outside of the submarine. Lindsay is in basically like a smaller little like explorer sub thing.

You know, those are like one person submarine things. Cute. It's very cute cute it's so cute it's like such a cute little submarine a little baby baby baby and uh power goes out uh which we saw the power go out in the opening scene with the submarine what after you know the the thing flew by the light so the power goes out she's you know trying to turn on her comms like hello hello can anyone hear me and then sees this like phosphorescent creature looking at her through the glass of the submarine. It's not too thin. It looks at her and then zooms off, I think, and that's it. We don't fully see

too much yet. It almost looks like it could be a jellyfish or a new species of... One of those deep sea, glowy guys. I wouldn't say it looks fully alien yet, but the speed at which it moves is unlike any known creature for sure.

It feels very, it's not scary. No. And she doesn't look scary. No, this creature is very nice. It looks like it's friendly. It looks friendly. You could leave your children with it. It's very like zippy

like zips around it's rainbow colored it's nice fun everything's nice about it you know but they all make their the power comes back on they make their way back to the main rig the SEAL team is reporting back to the surface saying

like we didn't get a good look at it it could have been the Russians we're not sure like there was like there was definitely some sort of attack could have been the Russians and the general or whatever is like all right we gotta head to phase two which I believe is that they

need to go down to the submarine to disarm the nuclear warheads that because this was a this was a warship war submarine and so it does have weapons on board and so they're basically like you got to go down there to get to disarm those so that the soviets can't come and steal them basically and another thing we should mention is that all of this is they're on a clock because there's also a hurricane that's supposed to be coming. So they're trying to beat the storm so they don't get caught in the hurricane. Yes, the hurricane's coming.

So the main SEAL team guy, his name is Coffee, played by Michael Biehn. And they start suiting up and they're going to go do this right now, apparently, even though there's a hurricane coming which seems like a bad idea um but they're like we're under orders we're going and they go in um it's called a moon pool you know within a submarine this isn't like deep blue sea too in any like underwater movie where they have the pools within the submarine that basically you like go into the water through this pool and like the physics of this just really blows my mind because these are also real things and it's something to do with air pressure and

whatever and weird anytime i see them in movies i can't believe that they work and that it's not just flooding the submarine. And so if you understand the mechanics of a moon pool, please let us know. A running theme I think these past two weeks has been we don't understand these types of things. And we're not going to look it up and we're just waiting for somebody to tell us. So if that's you, just do it, please. Oh, so coffee and the other SEAL team guys. Sorry, it's there's a character in another movie named Coffee, isn't there? Why is that sticking out to me?

Like, I feel like another like vessel movie. There's like it's like me. I don't know it. Nothing's jumping to my head, but I believe you. Listeners, if you know. Listeners, if you know listeners if you know but so they're out in their little like smaller explore i think there's two smaller subs within this rig um that you take out through the moon pools and they go out and moon pools and they go out and basically bud is like freaking out lindsey they're like we can't we got to get out of here the hurricane's coming um we can't leave while they're out one of the little submarine things has a little mechanic arm that they need to be able to unhook from whatever they're connected to.

So they can't unhook the whole space or, excuse me, underwater rig starts moving like this big rig. The whole thing is moving by the force of the hurricane. Eventually, Coffee and them come back in, I think. Right, Henley? Do we see them disarming the nuclear warheads i don't remember i think i think that we do fucking worthless it's okay i i can't remember that specific thing but i think something that has happened by now which is we should note is that

um mary elizabeth winstead lul lindsey has been like everyone needs to be aware of how they're feeling because um when you are under this amount of pressure it can create um a type of sickness called high pressure nervous syndrome right which can make you feel like paranoid and strange so she's pointed out to everyone, like, monitor your symptoms, make sure that you're feeling okay. Again, underwater is very scary. These things are real. But

okay, so they're trying to unhook. The whole station starts moving, and they're unfortunately on the edge of a underwater cliff, and they're unfortunately on the edge of a underwater cliff and they're moving towards it and it's really stressful and they stop just short of it they finally like i don't know get control of the rig or whatever i don't totally understand the mechanics of it all but they they stop but then right above them is the big military ship, which is going through the storm, and they're kind of calling down.

And a big crane breaks off of the military ship, splashes into the water. It's headed straight for them because they're right above, and so they're like, this huge crane is going to fall on top of you. They're bracing for impact. They look. It falls. It barely misses them. It falls basically right next to them. Big old fuf.

Thank God. Huge fuf. But then it teeters over the edge and falls into that i think we could call it an abyss and there's the abyss that's it the abyss falls it hooks onto a like rope thing that is connected to the rig and pulls them down and it's a really stressful scene and they see it happening and so it's just like a minute of the the rope like and they're like oh fuck hold on to something oh my god can you imagine like falling no like what also in the water like you're in the water and you're falling. Like what?

And the crane that fell was the communications of the top ship. So they lose communication with the ship. They're tumbling. Hippie puts his rat in a plastic bag, which I really liked because he's like, oh, the hurricane's coming. But I mean, he'll suffocate and he'll suffocate in the back. He must have left a little air hole open. But it's really sweet. There's a part. So the rig starts, you know, crashing and water is coming in.

They're trying to close off all the seal hatches quickly. It's one of those stressful scenes. Apparently, very few stunt people were used. So there are scenes where water is really rushing in and knocking people over and those were just the real actors and it looks like dangerous for sure um and there's a scene where the rat gets away from hippie and it's floating in its little bag and he's like no and reaches and gets it just in time but i think in that moment blocks a hatch from closing. And then the moon pools in this scene are going crazy because when it's

tumbling about, you know, you know, the laws of physics change. Yes. I was going to say the same thing. Yes. And so water is pouring in through this now and we see a set like a section of crew members get locked into one place and basically i think

drown bud is banging on the glass to try to get to them but the the hatch is locked um and then bud is racing to get to safety and a hatch is closing on him and he sticks his hand in at the last second and he is saved by his titanium wedding ring which holds the force of the symbolism thank god he didn't throw it in the toilet. Thank God he fished it out of the toilet. And crew members come and pry the door open from the other side, save Bud, pull him in. And now kind of the main crew members that we met in the beginning are safe in airlocks in some section of the rig. And the rig hits a bottom and would you believe

it they're on the edge of another cliff into an even deeper abyss oh my god we got a bit abyss on abyss so now, you know, regrouping. They've lost contact with the people in the boat. One of the people in the boat, by the way, is the guy from Schitt's Creek. Henley, did you notice that? Yes. Which guy? The mayor?

Rolling shit. Rolling shit. Yes. He's only in the beginning. Like i guess i don't yeah he comes back a little bit more in the end that you missed henley but not much he's not a he's definitely just has like a handful of lines i was i loved seeing him in my notes i just wrote schitt's creek um so then yeah so then they're regrouping things have not gone well things are not going um the way they'd hoped they'd go and things are looking even worse because it ends up that you

know they're in this airlock they only have so much oxygen they have approximately 12 hours of oxygen before um they all suffocate to death very bad lindsey has named this thing that she's seen right has this happened yet uh uh no first she goes to she basically is trying to buy them more time i think and i did i don't i don't totally know what she's doing but she's like i will walk walk swim to water water walk to this other part of the rig and basically get more oxygen from there i don't know i didn't totally pay attention but basically she's got to do this one underwater thing in order to extend their you know security amount of oxygen so she's going out in her

what did you call it a space underwater space suit is the technical term say it is like the you know from the neck down it's just that looks like a regular kind of wetsuit. But the top up, it's the glass kind. So it does look like a spacesuit more than a scuba suit.

I guess this is how deep water diving looks like, right? Probably. So she's out in that and she's trying trying to fix something and the power goes off again and it's really okay we know what this really dark and from the abyss comes a small little alien thing similar to the one from before phosphoresosphorescent, really beautiful colors, especially in this dark, dark light. She looks instantly like, she's not afraid at all. She looks like enraptured

by it, like she's captivated. And then, a really big one comes out of the abyss. It's kind of like, it looks like a huge stingray. And she just reaches out and touches it, which

I thought was insane. But I'm I gave her the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe it has like a kind of magnetic draw. She does another dubious thing with the alien a little bit later on. Yeah, I feel like she is

not cautious enough for being like She has no boundaries with this alien. She needs to set up some boundaries like that. Like you need like you need a heating pad for sure. No touching aliens on weekdays. We are not

touching them on weekdays. Not before 8pm. You're at work. We don't do it at work yeah so yeah so she touches it and her hand kind of goes into it and she just looks amazed and excited She rushes back to the crew and explains to them what she's seen. And she thinks that it's she's explaining to them that she thinks that it's an alien who's trying to make contact with us. She calls them a NTI. Yeah. Non non terrestrial intelligence. Yeah.-terrestrial intelligence yeah non-terrestrial intelligence the next thing that i remember happening though is that the alien returns in like a but it's taken the form of a salt water creature and it kind of look it's like this circular saltwater tunnel that flows through the ship and enters the room

and comes up to face Lindsay. And when it comes up to face Lindsay, it takes on her face. So it mirrors her face and she's like, oh, amazing. And so she smiles at it. And then the saltwater alien guy smiles back at her. And then the saltwater alien takes on the form of Ed Harris. And Ed Harris is like, wow, this is wild. And then Lindsay, this is the next dubious thing she does. She takes her finger and she just straight up pokes the alien in the middle of its face then brings her finger back and

puts it in her mouth it's crazy I wrote it down too like this bitch this fucking bitch bitch I said bitch of Bitch. I said bitch of the universe. I said, I said, bitch.

You can't just taste an alien like that. You can't. Honestly, I'm sorry, but especially not during work hours. We are at work. It is the day at work. And Lindsay, bitch, we are not not doing we are not tasting aliens today no i said bitch you can't just taste an alien i said oh my god yeah no i was shocked and horrified, to be honest with you.

So is everyone else. It's not okay. Everyone else is like, what are you doing? Stop. She's like, no. She's like, no, it's okay. It's salt water. She's like, I needed to taste it to prove that I knew it was salt water.

It's the least scientific interaction with aliens I've ever seen. scientific interaction with aliens i've ever seen um so it it then kind of uh uh retracts and is going back through it came through the moon pool and uh as it's kind of pulling back we see coffee see it kind of freaking out mind you in this time we're seeing that coffee is not well he's getting a little bit of the symptoms that we have been told to look out for which include paranoia this pressure sickness includes paranoia he is like shaky and sweaty and he's like i think he says like that alien looks like it's after the warhead. He's just a little he's he's not well. But so as it's as the as the little saltwater tunnel is retracting, he closes a hatch on it, breaking it in half. And the half on the other side of the hatch collapses back into water on the ground. And it turns at him and is kind of like.

It collapses back into water on the ground and it turns at him and is kind of like, and then retreats back into the moon pool. Yeah. So Lindsay's all pissed off, obviously, because she's like, that alien was trying to make contact with us. And now we just closed a door on it. Aggressive. I was making good progress with it on a personal level and you ruined it and Hippie says like I don't think that was the alien

and they kind of as a group reached the conclusion that the aliens can control water and that this was them sending a signal it wasn't the actual alien but it was them it was them sending a signal. It wasn't the actual alien, but it was them. It was the manipulating water to kind of reach out and communicate from afar.

And while while they're having this conversation, we see coffee slicing into his arm with a knife, just cutting big gashes into his arm, hidden under a table so no one else can see and he's just kind of shaking and grimacing and cutting into his own arm oh my god no no and i and i guess he was just he's just doing that because he's in going insane like is there a reason why he's cutting into his arm i think he's yeah i mean yeah i don't know he's angry and doesn't just sort of losing it i think so um and he goes and and um talks to the other seal team guys you know there's a group of i think maybe four or five seal team guys and he's like that alien is after the warhead and they think it's cute and they don't realize how dangerous this could be like that's alien life and we need to take this into our own hands this is on us

and the SEAL team is kind of like on board at this moment and they're like okay yeah like um like arm up with guns they like grab guns and they're like yeah, this is serious and scary and we need to be prepared for whatever could happen. And then Hippie is spying on Coffee because they've kind of obviously noticed he's being a little weird. And he's Coffee attaching the nuclear warhead to an exploratory like camera sub, you know, those like from like national geographic that are just like little mini things. Even cuter than the last sub.

Oh my God. And even smaller little sub. It's so cute. Oh, we'll post all these pictures of these cute little vessels. Is this information to Bud and is basically saying, you know,

coffee's lost it. Tensions are rising. He hippies says, I programmed that camera thing to go down to explore the aliens. He's basically, he got a nuclear warhead without telling anyone and is now attaching it to this thing that's programmed to go down to where we saw the aliens.

And he might be straight up starting a war with aliens right now. Mm hmm. Yeah, those are high stakes. And at this point, he's kind of gone so far off his rocker that the rest of the SEAL team is kind of like, I don't I don't know, like, like, we're we're we're not sure about this. And I think one of them's yelling at him. He's like, we got to, like, go down there and we got to explode all those aliens. And they're like, we'll we'll all die from that. Like, it's a nuclear bomb and we will all die from that like it's a nuclear bomb and we will all die and in the wake of that he's on his own now he doesn't care he's on a mission so he is like um going crazy going like insane by himself and then ed harris is like creeping up on him trying to stop him from um releasing this warhead and everyone's

like don't like don't don't do that he's gonna kill you he's a seal he's a navy seal he'll kill you and he's like no i met harris and i'm a man in black so ever heard of me yeah he's like I'm a man in black. Ever heard of me? Yeah, he's like... Ever heard of me? Exactly. And so he attacks him to try to stop him. And Coffee pulls a gun on him and immediately pulls the trigger right in his forehead.

And there's no bullets. And we see it cuts back to the rest of the SEAL team. And they have taken his bullets because they knew he was not well, which is kind of a fun. That's smart. It's fun. And that's honestly smarter than taking the gun because you take the gun. You know, something's up. You take the bullets out.

He steals the gun, but can't do anything with it. I guess you could hit someone over the head with it, which would hurt. Well, they do get in a big fistfight in this scene. Sure. Sure. It proves. Yeah. Beyond a point that this dude is unsafe too the fact that he didn't even hesitate yeah um so then he don't want that he steals the

submarine yes and they get in a big fist fight coffee gets away gets in this sub he's like i'm uh he's a little baby sub and he's strapped the even babier sub on top of it with the warhead strapped to that and so he's like i'm gonna go drop this off and launch i'm gonna go drop this off it's like it's gonna be one minute i'm gonna go i'm gonna go drop this off it's like nesting dolls it's like the russian nesting dolls it's just like one sub and a sub and a sub. Just one tinier little sub within each other's sub. I love it. Cute. And Sozin chases him in just an underwater space suit.

He chases a full submarine just by swimming. Just by swimming. Okay. He gets onto it and he gets a rope and he detaches the mini sub carrying the warhead and ties it onto the main rig to basically prevent him from being able to launch it at the aliens. And coffee goes to press to to launch it and sees it starting to go and then get pulled back by the rope that it is tied by.

starting to go and then get pulled back by the rope that it is tied by. And so Coffee gets very mad, turns around in his submarine, and he starts chasing Bud in the submarine and trying to pin him against rocks and walls. So it's like a submarine on man fight. And then Lindsay comes out in submarine number two two and now we're getting sub on sub fight and and now what is the size of lindsey's submarine relative to the other submarines it's the same as coffee size so adorable size okay adorable cutie it's a cutie not a baby snack size snack size oh my god a snack size not a fun size but it's a cutie, not a baby. Snack size. Oh my god, a snack size.

Not a fun size, but a snack size. Yes, exactly. So, they get in a submarine fight. A snack size sub fight. We've all been there. Classic. Gets in the way, blocks

him somehow, and yells, get in, which is so crazy underwater to be like, hop in. Like, what? What? Yeah. You're so far underwater. But I guess submarines or these little explorer subs have, you know, pressure valves, whatever. I'll allow it.

I'm sure it's probably real. I'm sure James Cameron did his research. He seems like the type to do research. And then the little baby sub, the fun size sub with the warhead attached to it gets loose and starts heading down to the aliens. And so... Because the rope breaks? The rope breaks. I've stopped watching at this point.

Yeah, no, it doesn't break. It just, he tied a pretty shitty knot. Helly, did you stop mid-submarine fight? Is that when you turned this movie off? I was, like, not paying... I was watching a horror movie before work and said, it's not possible. Clear listeners, she watched it at 8 a.m this morning

yeah and i was also like also looking at my email like having panic attacks about a variety yeah it's a hard time to focus for sure um so lindsey's sub has the little clampy arm thing that previously they needed to use to detach from whatever thing they were attached to she tries to clamp the rope and gets it but then um coffee comes in his sub they hits it again hits the the fun size sub out and it again starts going down to the aliens they get in another big sub fight basically she pushes coffee's sub into a wall a rock wall and knocks him over the edge of that second abyss and he his his sub loses power and he tumbles in and we see from his POV the glass in his submarine cracking and breaking and we see his sub implode. And it looks really good and crazy and scary.

So you're starting to see how so much of this movie was filmed underwater. Starting to. Starting to see. I'm starting to see it. Obviously, fighting with submarines is a bad idea and their submarine

has taken some damage and is now filling with water and only Bud is in a underwater underwater underwater

underwater kind of have like a like a moment of him like taking it off and being like put this on put this on. She's like no you're the better swimmer. She comes up with this plan which says the water's freezing. They're so deep and she's

shivering. The sub is filling with water. She's shivering. She's so cold. You're the better swimmer. If I pass out I will have hypothermia and I can be hypothermic for like 15 minutes or so. And then you can revive me. So you as the faster swimmer to put on your suit and take me out, like basically drag me unconscious underwater back to the main station and then revive me.

Wait, is this one her like main station, and then revive me. Wait, is this when her, like, top is off? It's coming. It's soon, though. Soon. That didn't happen. And it's in this moment that we start to see the true depth of their love for each other. In this near-death moment. No pun intended. They kiss she kisses because you know they she thinks she's maybe gonna die and this plan is not great um and the sub fills

up with water she holds her breath to a point that she passes out which in water I don't think would be possible like I think you would just drown like I don't think you can make yourself not breathe underwater like your instinct would be to breathe yeah maybe you could

hyperventilate and get yourself to pass out that way you know like how you can make yourself... But just by holding your breath, I don't know. It seems weird, but... Wait, she's actually in water right now. Listeners, are you starting to get it?

Are you starting to get it? Wait, but she's not in... What I mean is she's not in the submarine. They are in the submarine at this moment. They are in the submarine. The submarine is filling with water. I see, I see, I see. But they go out of the submarine, and I in the submarine at this moment. They are in the submarine. The submarine is filling with water. Oh, I see, I see, I see. But they go out of the submarine and I had that question as well where as I mentioned earlier,

every 32 feet is an atmosphere of pressure. If she doesn't have a suit, I think the second you go out of that submarine, your fucking bones are caving in. Yeah, right? Yeah, your lungs 100% collapse. Definitely collapse. Definitely collapse. That's a goof.

James, that's a goof. So she passes out. And the second she passes out, Bud goes, no! As if it wasn't the plan that they just agreed on. It's really weird. But then he sets out. And he's swimming real quick back to the main rig. And through his comms in his helmet, he's saying to the crew inside, like, you get ready. 10 cc's of adrenaline and the, you know, little shocker paddle things.

And they get there. This is where lindsey is topless he like rips open her shirt for them to be able to do the the electro shock paddles or whatever they're called um uh they're doing you know clear he's he's pounding on her chest doing trying to get her heart back in rhythm and it's a really really intense scene and i actually think it's a really good scene ed harris is really good in it she looks really dead the makeup is very good um and i will say about her being naked it's like i barely even noticed it it is done in i think a pretty like respectful way it's not like and now look at her boobs it's like it's only i think visible in like one shot for a second and it's like not sexy it's like you're just stressed in this scene and worried

for her um and for a long time she's not coming back and, um, screams at her like you stubborn bitch. Like you never gave up a fight in your life. Call her a bitch. Call her a bitch one more time. Slaps her across the face really hard. And that like. And she probably deserved it.

Does the trick. like and she probably deserved it does the trick and she wakes up and i guess all she needed was a good slap and to be called a bitch again and voila she's alive oh cool cool fucking cool okay so she's alive um they kiss again i bet uh they love each other now which i don't know i just feel like the the whole premise of like a divorcing couple like discovering that they still love each other is so it happens a lot in movies considering i feel like how rarely it happens in life that much um and i just feel like most of the time there's a very good reason to get divorced people don't just get divorced because they're in a fight it's like we've exhausted all other options and i just feel like james cameron is just like has some has some problems in this respect.

He's working out some things. I agree. I think also a central point of their relationship in this movie is that they weren't prioritizing each other as we found out in the beginning. And they didn't have enough time for each other. And you know, when do you have more time than when you're stuck in an abyss with your ex? You know, it's like this isn't real life, you guys. Like, I wonder if the relationship is really going to work out afterwards.

Classic, like, bachelor situation. These are extreme circumstances. Let's not make any rash decisions when we're in an abyss together. You know? You know, what happens in the abyss stays in an abyss together you know you know what happens in the abyss stays in the abyss probably but okay so they've they've they've brought her back everything is looking good except that dang nuclear warhead is still headed for those aliens right right i forgot about that right yes okay right and so bud there's to go retrieve it but because it's so deep he has to

breathe that old floor of oxygenated right sure liquid shit liquid lungs and he puts on his helmet and it starts filling lindsey is now like obsessed with him and is like, oh, my God. No, he looks like he's having a hard time and like is a little overdramatic about the whole thing. It's like, bitch, bitch, we saw the rat do it. It's fine. It's fine, bitch. out do it it's fine it's fine bitch okay um but so he can't text thing on his wrist so he'll be communicating to them by text and a hippie has another fun size little camera sub programmed also to the same way to go to the same location and he says just piggyback

on this like hold on to this it'll take you right to the same location where the warhead is great he hops on they're like that's you're gonna be this is gonna be you know the deepest any human has ever gone um careful and i think the scariest shot of the film is him standing at the edge of this abyss and it's just like black it's like him in his underwater space suit looking into a into just blackness and then he jumps into it and disappears that's really that's really scary you would definitely be crushed I feel like that's a super obvious logical fallacy right well that's

they've added in the liquid to you know pad right so I guess the liquid would be fine sure but so there he can hear them so they're saying to him saying to him like oh you just passed like the record of how deep a human has ever gone. And he texts, like, call Guinness.

They're laughing. Okay. We're having fun. And then one of the crewmen is, like, calling out his depth. And he's, like, 8,500 feet, 10,000 feet. And he's like 8,500 feet, 10,000 feet. And they're like, okay, ask him like how he's doing. If you know this pressurized sickness or whatever, ask him how he's feeling. He types in all like spelled wrong, like hands shaking, like H-N-N-D-S-S-H-K, like not doing well.

And they're like, Lindsay, talk to him keep him with us and she's like bud like i'm there with you uh like i love you she's getting very emotional um you know he might die so i get it we're at 12 000. And then they're like, okay, check back in with him. Bud, like, how are you? And he's typing like full gibberish now. Like, it's just symbols and letters. Nonsense. Lindsay is sobbing and crying like, oh, my God, he's he's dying.

We see that the like shot of him falling is really good I think this is the scene in which Ed Harris the actor almost drowned because his helmet is filled with oh my god liquid and he's being kind of tossed and turned about in a way that looks oh my

god hold his breath in this liquid because he did not use the oxygenated liquid because I don't think they've used it on humans. Sure, yeah. So he's kind of free falling and the little fun size sub explodes from the pressure. And so he's now just full free falling, like if surrounded by black, just looks so scary. He's on the on the comm saying, like, I know how alone you feel, but I'm there with you. I'm in the darkness with you.

Like, I love you. I'm by your side always. And connection with him. And they're kind of like, oh god we've lost him and then we get a text that says feeling better spelled all correctly and he says see light everywhere and they're like oh my god he's hallucinating so badly and it's like i don't know or maybe remember all the lights that we saw? Aliens that we've seen multiple times.

But he's heading straight towards. He lands right next to that warhead. Thank God. Even though he's lost grip of his previous little thing that he's hitchhiking right on anyways he lands next to it and he texts them like i'm here i see the warhead and the seal team guy says okay you need to cut the blue line the blue cord with the white stripe not the black cord with the yellow stripe but the way that the lighting works under there they were they look the same it's just like bright yellow light and you know how that takes color out of everything

oh god so they just look the same and he's okay cutting and goes to cut one and he's about to cut it and then he looks like wait a second and he cuts the other one and it's fine so maybe the alien gave him a message I don't know I think it's more like don't trust your instincts like save your failed marriage I felt like it was a very weird messaging right

there I don't know it's like what is this moment of just like wait your instinct is to run away when really you should stay I don't know I don't know what it means that's really it that's a good armchair analysis

I felt like everything was just about the marriage I think you're right but or the Soviets or it could be the Soviets it's maybe it's more about the cold more probably um but so he cuts it and it's it works and so he texts back like done they all cheer we did it and they say okay how much oxygen do you have left like come back up

and he says only five minutes and they say it took him 30 minutes to get down there and she says cut your cut your weights just come up like if you get like we can we have a you know hyperbaric chamber in here whatever just come up fast and he texts thinking of staying a while i knew this was a one-way ticket and he sits down and is like you know sacrificing himself for the good of his crew and humanity not starting a war with those aliens uh lindsey is sobbing screaming like you bastard don't you fucking leave me whatever she didn't say fuck pg-13 um don't you leave me you bastard fight fight for this and he texts i love you wife which i thought was really funny just like how can i show you that i recommitted i want it to I want her to know it's for her. How do I

say? She's gone from bitch to wife. She's been upgraded, baby. Oh my god. As far as women go, that's the top. Wife is the top. That's the two options. You go from bitch to wife all in a day? Excuse me?

That's a character arc. If I've ever seen one. So Bud is just laying back, accepting his death. And would you believe it? An alien swims right up to him. They go so fast. They go so fast. They zip around.

It's got big eyes and no mouth and holds out. Big eyes, no mouth, can't lose. I read because it's the opposite of the alien in Aliens, which has a big mouth and no eyes. Okay, so that's how you can know whether or not you can trust an alien. Yeah, the good versus bad. I got it. Clocking that. how you can know whether or not you can trust an alien yeah the good versus bad i got it clocking that um so it it holds it reaches out its hand grabs his hand and swim flies him to alien city

a big uh landscape of phosphorescent kind of alien building things. Ed Harris is looking like, ooh, ooh, oh my God. What? This actually happens in this movie? This actually happens. And it takes him into this room that then the water moves out of the way, giving him oxygen oxygen I guess. And so he takes his helmet off.

He vomits up all that water that he's been breathing because you have to like it's in your lungs. Ew. Stands up and looks at the aliens and says Howdy. How you guys doing? That's his. And they then play back his text messages to him on the wall and so it says like i love you wife projected on this water wall and they just like look at each other

then they start singing that song it's so interesting they're singing wonderwall but the words are Waterwall? Honestly, that could happen at this point. I'd be like, okay. And then we go back to the main rig. And, you know, Lindsay is heartbroken, thinks Bud is dead. They haven't heard from him. They're crying. The communications get

restored to the to the main ship they call up to um them and say you know we've lost we lost a lot of crew including bud and just then a text comes through that says um whatever his full name is. His name's Virgil. Virgil something. Reporting for duty. And they all laugh like, oh my god, he's alive. He's not dead. And he texts, I have some

new friends. Lindsay's smiling like, oh my god, you freaking trickster, you got us. And he says, oh, my God, you freaking trickster. You got us. And he says, texts, hold on to your pantyhose. You're gonna love this. And there starts being shaking. And on the ship above, this is where Roland has a couple lines. And he says, there's something coming up from below.

And they say, from where? From where? And he says there's something coming up from below and they say from where from where he says from everywhere and we see out of the water come these big you like alien things that we saw from the city it's basically like the whole alien city the whole ship on the surface basically pulls everything out of the water and then floats above the water which like cincy and the crew get out of um there the rig and from in the alien city thing out walks bud and he's alive and they walk up to each other and share a big kiss and that's the end of the movie all right whoa all right wow um but i will say there you know obviously we watched the uh two hour and 20 theatrical version uh there is a two hour and like 50 minute version in which in the fine in this final scene the aliens uh tidal waves happen everywhere so that there's tidal waves

descending on literally every shore and somehow communicate like who humans gotta stop being bad oh my god j James, okay, buddy. I mean... Alright. And then decide not to. They're basically, it's a flex. They're like, we could kill you. And they decide not to because Bud showed kindness and decency.

And then they're like, alright, never mind. You know, it's a Cold War metaphor. All right. Never mind. You know, it's a Cold War, you know, metaphor. Or anti-Cold War, should I say. Anti-War. Anti-War. But yeah, that's the movie. I would say it's really not too scary aside from water being scary. So listeners, check it out. It is interesting that it's like probably James Cameron's least popular movie.

Yeah, I was going to say, is it good? I can't tell. I think it is good. I mean, I think the third act isn't great, but overall, like, it's pretty exciting and it looks really good. I think the looks really good. I think the acting is good.

Unfortunately, I think this insane production paid off. It looks great. I love Ed Harris. That makes it good to me because I just love him so much. He's good. I think everyone's good.

All right. It does look really good for a movie that was made in 1989. I think that it holds up. I think that it is, the story could have been a little tighter. For sure. I don't know. There's so many, I think for me, I got lost. I got lost pretty quickly in all the ship

stuff that was happening where it was like, they're in one submarine, then they're in another submarine. That's not a submarine. I didn't even smile at your submarine. Yeah. I was kind of like, I don't know exactly. And also the nuclear warhead like kind of looks like a submarine in a way. So it's like everything kind of I was just like, I

I don't know what's happening. I also wasn't paying too close attention. You were stressed about your work emails and you can't even use your heating pad while you're at work. You can't even use your heating pad. The day has started. I mean, my God. I think it was fun.

I think it's a good movie. I recommend it. And I got to say, listeners, thank you very much for picking the not shark movie. I appreciate it. It was so close. We really had a lot of people who were very upset that we weren't going to be doing Jaws I've actually I've seen Jaws It's the only shark movie I've seen

I do really like it It's a great movie And even though the shark is like pretty fake It's still it's just the idea Of a shark being present is too much We should do Deep Blue Sea I'm sad I didn't include that I don't wanna but I guess that's the point We should do Deep Blue Sea. I'm sad I didn't include that. I don't wanna, but I guess

that's the point. We will do Jaws on this eventually. We'll do it soon. Learn anything? The deep ocean is terrifying. Aside from the importance of actors' rights and the actors' rights.

The splendor of vessels. The splendor of vessels the splendor of vessels the importance of actors rights and the few options available to women from bitch to wife

bitch to wife in 60 seconds one option you have you don't need to take it but one option you have when you are confronted with an alien is to taste it. You could taste it. You could taste it if you wanted to. As long as it's after the hours of 8pm

Monday through Friday, you could taste the alien. This is not what the lesson that was taught to us, but a personal lesson that I have learned in life is it's okay

to get divorced. Yeah, it's okay to get divorced. It's okay to get divorced. And you know what? I'm going to take it a step further and say sometimes it rules. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's good to get divorced. And that is a lesson because definitely at first I was like, oh, I don't want to be married, but I don't want to be divorced.

And it's like just like with women, bitch or wife, pick one. And that's what it was. And but it can be really good. It can be really good. Yeah. But it can be really good. It can be really good. Yeah.

Sammy, thank you so much for walking us through yet another movie. You both watched some of this movie this week. I'm the only one who sat on my little tush and didn't do a damn thing. So thank you. Hey, you're welcome. Listen, and I don't know. I don't think there were any voices in this movie except for Ed Harris screaming. No, a lot. I think he did scream it twice, actually, when he was like pounding on her chest, too.

Maybe we could just scream the ending like and call our listeners bitches. Yeah, I'll say I'll do. I love that idea. I love that. I love it. and then maybe end it with wife too like uh like you are such a bitch but also you're my wife

I love you wife what I like about this idea Sammy is how simple it is and how clear it is the intention is clear yeah what I like about it is it's clear it is. The meaning, the intention is clear. Yeah. What I like about it is it's really straightforward and so

no further explanation. Let's do exactly what you said. Okay. On the count of three. Okay. On the count of three. From all of us here at She Scared and Watch. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Bitch, you're my wife. you. You're my wife. You're my wife. And that's the best ending we've ever had. Hi, everybody. Thank you for listening to another episode of Too Scary Didn't Watch. If you are liking the show, please remember to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss an episode. And if you have time, you can rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. That really helps us out. You can also support us by joining our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast,

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