Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE AUTOPSY OF JANE DOE

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

Corpses, ankle bells, and father and son forensic pathologists - we're recapping The Autopsy of Jane Doe! This episode was chosen by the winner of our October Instagram giveaway - thank you Gabby! Join us to hear our uneducated guesses on what happens to blood after you die. Ba da ba ba baaaa, enjoy!The Autopsy of Jane Doe is available on Shudder00:00 - Shoutouts03:10 - Episode starts11:08 - Trivia25:45 - Recap Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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and Sammy. And you're listening to too scary. Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies so I watch them and I tell you about them so that

you don't have to watch them but you can know about them. That's what we do here. Perfect definition of what you do. That's what we do here. But before we do that this week how are we doing?

Right now Mabel's making biscuits on my lap and I need to cut her claws. Owie! Owie! Owie! Mabel is Emily's cat, in case anyone doesn't know. That, yes, correct. Correct. Speaking of cats, I am visiting my parents' house right now.

visiting my parents house right now and um their cat was just is an outdoor cat and he was just mauled by some unknown creature they don't know whether it was a fox or a hawk or something my parents live in the country they're very rural area and um basically oliver came like scraggling back to the house like could barely move his legs and he'd been like chomped down on and his like hind quarters and now he's he's recovering he's doing a lot better but he's walking around and he looks like he's he looks like like a fancy poodle. Like, you know, that's like his it's like because they had to shave in certain areas. So it's like so funny when an animal, especially a cat gets shaved because like you're not used to seeing that. No, his whole butt and like back is shaped, but then his tail is left. And so it's like a big furry fluffy tail and then just like the skinniest little gray cat body you've ever seen and then they had to shave like around

his top too and so it's like around his top funny he honestly looks like a fancy cat now even though he's been injured anyway I'm so happy that he's alive that could have been worse I know I'm impressed that he was able to fend off whatever this creature was and also like what who would do that you know who would do that

who would do it probably those sharp little claws like the ones that are digging into Emily's lap right now. Yeah, exactly. Probably what saved him. They also can really bite. Yeah. Those little tiny teeth are sharp.

Well, they just, like, get on their back and they just go to town. Like, they'll just, like, use their hind legs. Yeah, they use their little back feets to go, like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Rapid fire. Yeah. Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot. What about you guys um well i went to a strip club this weekend not just any strip club either like the premier strip club it's a fun one of los angeles

it's jumbo's clown room and i't know, is it even a strip club? It is like dancers. There's not a ton of stripping happening. Yeah, it's a pole dancing venue. They don't allow nudity. So, right? They do not. Well, there's a law, I believe, at least in California, that you cannot serve alcohol if they are nude.

So if you want to go to a nude strip club, there's no alcohol involved. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Hmm. So obviously you wouldn't ever do that. Imagine going and doing that. Yeah.

Yeah, that's, I don't. That's dark. I think it's really dark. I think that I very much understand why that would be a law and it seems correct. But also that's really sad. I'm shocked that strip clubs don't serve. Or I guess that there are strip clubs.

I don't know. I just thought Jumbo's Clown Room was unique in the sense that they didn't have nudity. No, Cheetahs didn't have nudity. And I don't know what has happened to Cheetahs. God, I loved Cheetahs didn't have nudity. And I don't know what has happened to cheetahs. God, I loved cheetahs. But cheetahs has been bought by somebody else before the pandemic, I think. And so I don't know. But yeah, they also weren't nude.

Yeah. But it was just, I mean, it felt like a real marker of maybe starting to come out of the other end of a pandemic. The pandemic is not over. And who knows what the holidays will bring. But I've gotten a booster. Everywhere in LA is checking vaccine cards. And so I felt totally comfortable being at a strip club, no windows in sight, filled with people. And it just felt like a real monumental moment.

It's very exciting. It was very exciting. I had a great time. You got a t-shirt. I got my second t-shirt. I've already had a t-shirt from them, but I felt like it had been six years and they'd probably changed it and I was right. So I got a new version of that t-shirt from them but i felt like it had been six years and they'd probably changed it and i was right so got a new version of that t-shirt great that's great i love that i'm jealous i want to go to jumbos what about you emily what's up well i got my booster this morning so i i'm feeling extremely low energy i just caught myself just like listening to you guys and being like,

mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, and having like no visible response. So if I'm weird in this episode, that might be why. But I'm really excited to have gotten my booster. If you live in L.A., the silver lake cvs just has taken straight up walk-ins they've got a great system it was easy it was easy as heck and i'm really thrilled really thrilled to be boosted um and you know what i've been feeling like this week it's really cool i've been feeling like, you know, sometimes you start a project or

a task or a skill or you just start doing something and it takes a while for you to see where that led you, just in life. And I am certain that I'm expressing this in the best possible way. I have felt in this past week, honestly,

just like I'm really seeing a lot of those efforts sort of come pay off in some ways or like I'm seeing how I'm seeing how pursuing what I enjoy has been a good thing. That's great. I'm feeling that way with the podcast so much

and with the stuff that I make. And I'm just like, oh, what a cool reminder to just try as hard as you can to pursue the things that that bring you joy, because probably good things will come from that. Well, if you can. Freaking heartwarming, Emily. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. And I know this episode comes out after Thanksgiving, Emily. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. And I know this episode comes out after Thanksgiving apparently, but you know, there's a lot to be grateful for.

But you can be grateful not just on Thanksgiving. All the time you can be grateful and you should. And I am. And I also feel tip-top. for that too thankful for that speaking of feeling tip-top speaking of feeling tip-top let's do what we came here to freaking do we have an exciting movie this week this was uh the choice of our Halloween giveaway winner. Gabby

Verillo chose this week's movie. Thank you, Gabby. Thank you, Gabby. You picked a good one. I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited as well. She picked The Autopsy of Jane Doe, which came out in 2016. It was

directed by Andre Overdahl, written by Ian Goldberg and Richard Nang, starring Brian Cox, Emile Hirsch, Ophelia LeVovand, and Owen Kelly. And it is available on Shudder.com. Woo-hoo.

Very exciting.com. Woo-hoo. Very exciting. Yeah. I feel like this one had actually been requested quite a few times, and it had been on our radar for a while, so Gabby just gave us that little push we needed. Mm-hmm. Sammy, had you ever seen it before? No, this was my first time watching it. And man, I just...

Brian Cox, what can you say? He can do anything. He's so good. I love that he is in horror movies. What a blessing for us, for this podcast. Yeah. Yeah. And he's my relative somehow.

Your dad or husband, we're not sure. He could be either. He could be either. Either works. It's crazy, Emily, how you don't know who your dad and husband, we're not sure. He could be either. He could be either. Either works. It's crazy, Emily, how you don't know who your dad and husband are. I know I'm married, but to who? Just one crazy night in Vegas. So dumb.

I actually know nothing about this film, except that people request it all the time on the podcast and people dm us all the time about it so i i don't know anything about the plot i thought it was older 2016 is it's pretty recent yeah i mean it's not super recent i guess it's five years ago but i just would have thought this movie was older so you know it's crazy and it's kind of too bad and maybe everyone's this way, but like every time I hear the year 2016, all I can think about is the Trump presidency now. Of course. Pretty defining

part of that year. I'm like, how is this movie connected to the Trump presidency? That's the first thing my brain does. It's like, it's not connected. There's nothing to do with that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 2016 was bad. 2016 was super bad it was no 2020 but it was bad yeah it was the 2020 of the 2010s 2016 2016 is like though like when it was like

my innocence was over then you know my childhood fully ended at 2016 it was like i couldn't yeah it was brutal the the cloth was taken over my front removed from my eyes what's the phrase i don't know the cloth was taken was removed from my eyes the cloth we know the phrase we all know it the cloth is i really appreciate how much you tried to say all of the options at once. When in doubt, say it all. Say everything. Just say one confusing combination of all of it.

Does anyone even know if that is even close to being a phrase? Wool from your eyes? That sounds right. That's closer. Anyway. Yeah. Okay. 2016. Anyway. Yeah, okay. 2016. Also, is

Emile Hirsch bad? Oh, I hadn't heard. Is he bad? I think he might have been Me Too'd. I could be wrong, but I think he is bad. I could find a better way to express that. Interesting. I had not heard, but I wouldn't, you know, be shocked.

But it couldn't be. I mean, he was also in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which was like not which was after this. Oh, yeah. He had an assault conviction in 2015. He went to jail. Oh, God. Attempting to strangle Paramount Pictures executive Daniel Bernfield at Tao Nightclub. Holy shit.

He claimed he did not remember what had happened. That's not really a helpful argument, I would say. But then he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor assault and was sentenced to 15 days in jail and fined $4,750. They could have sentenced you to just 15 days. That sort of feels like why. I mean, look, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't want to sentence you to just 15 days. That sort of feels like, why? I mean, look, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't want to go to jail for 15 days, but it does feel like just do a month at least. A month at least. I don't know.

That's just sort of weird to me. Yeah, kind of crazy that he just continues to work just his, I'm looking at his filmography, and it didn't affect his work at all. just his I'm looking at filmography and it didn't affect his work at all in fact it seems like he's been working more

since the um well good for him what the fuck hmm well sorry it's honestly I mean a lot of there's a lot of bad men and some of them are actors do you know what I mean, there's a lot of bad men, and some of them are actors.

Do you know what I mean? Yes. And so we talk about movies. It's just bound to happen. It's bound to happen. But let's talk about the movie. Let's talk about the movie. The budget was $6 million, and the box office was $6 million.

That's nice. Clean. Easy peasy. It has 87% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 65% on Metacritic and a 6.8 on IMDb. Pretty high. A return to form. Pretty high, pretty high. A return to form.

The director, Andre Overdahl, was inspired to make this movie after seeing The Conjuring. He previously directed Trollhunter, so this was his first foray into horror. Trollhunter is like... What is Trollhunter? It has some little scary elements to it. I just imagined, immediately thought you were talking about the Disney movie Trolls. Me too. No, it's literally about hunting trolls.

He's Norwegian, so it's... I know I've seen it. I don't totally remember. I know it was good. Okay. But yeah, so this is his first English language film and his first like true horror film. Sam, you've seen so many movies. It really blows my mind.

You know, what's crazy is I get so overwhelmed by how many I haven't seen. Like there's so many movies in existence. Man, oh man, oh man. And so even though I feel like I really watch a lot of them, it's still, I can't keep up. I just watch the same like eight movies over and over and over and over again. Well, I like to do that too. And that's, that also stresses me out. It's where it's like, well, now I got, I want to watch The Matrix again, but it's like,

well, I've seen it and I got to watch other movies. Wow. Yeah. So. Yeah. I do like, I like that quality about you, Sammy, though, is that when you see a movie that you really like, you want to watch other movies. Wow. Yeah. So, it's tough. Yeah, I do like that quality about you, Sammy, though, is that when you see a movie that you really like, you want to just watch it

a few more times, each time with someone who hasn't seen it yet. Oh, it's my favorite thing. It's my favorite thing. Yeah, I love that. But even I like to just rewatch things alone sometimes. I was listening to the score of Mandy and it just, I, God, it just, what a great movie and just made me want to watch it again.

So there's just, you know, I get really stressed about not having enough time to do all the things I want to do. The thing is, you want to rewatch cool movies like Mandy. And I'm like, I'll watch It's Complicated for the 50th time. Hey, It's Complicated is good. And I feel good about that choice. I feel good about that choice for you. I think you should. Stephen King said of the autopsy of Jane Doe that it is a visceral horror to rival alien and early Cronenberg.

Watch it, but not alone. Which, like, I'm a little confused, honestly, by that quote. Okay. Like, did he even see it yeah I don't know is there a lot of body horror stuff I mean it's an autopsy it is definitely

a lot of corpse organs all yeah a lot of corpse a lot of corpse it's one huge corpse it's a lot of corpse. A lot of corpse. That's one huge corpse. That's a lot of corpse in this one. Martin Sheen

was originally cast as Tommy who went to Brian Cox, eventually had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts, and Andre Overdahl said that Olwen Kelly had the most difficult role in the film. She plays Jane Doe, the corpse.

It is a real actress playing the corpse. And he credited her with making everyone else comfortable on the set, which, like, how horrible is that statement? Like, the naked woman having to make everybody else comfortable like what but it does seem like a really strange role to play i guess you'll tell us if it needed to be a an alive woman i'm sure we'll find out the corpse moves. I guess he'll tell us. I can't say. I don't want to spoil anything.

But at the moment, I'm sort of like, why did you make a woman do this? Yeah. Yeah, it is. They probably could have had her be naked less. Probably could have cheated some stuff for sure but uh but she is very much naked in frame for most of the movie and so you know it would probably have looked weirder if it were a dummy yeah because you could tell you probably tell it was a dummy she's very visible a lot of the time yeah um so owen kelly spent around

eight hours a day for five weeks lying naked on an autopsy table ah yeah man just imagining that it was warm i would be like can i listen to a podcast like what do you like i would go a little crazy it's almost really wild yeah not being able to move it's like hard work yeah I read that part of why they chose her is because she was very into yoga and was good at like not like

not visibly breathing and could control that she definitely looks dead the whole time which I feel like is hard to do that's insane yeah geez okay yeah so great job olwyn kelly great job that's all i've got for trivia should we watch this trailer yes i've never seen it This is not what I was expecting. Can I see one?

No, no. What's that for? Make sure he's dead. No. What's that for? Make sure he's dead. Sheriff, what happened? No ID, no fingerprints in the system.

For now, she's a Jane Doe. He needs my help right now. 11 o'clock, I'm all yours. Subject is in her mid to late 20s. Hair, brown. Eyes, gray. What happened to you? First, they bound her.

Then they ripped out her tongue, poisoned her, paralyzed her, forced her to swallow the cloth. Where is that? I want to die! Die! I want to die! Dad? Dad? No one could see what we have seen. No! What? I like don't know what I was expecting,

but like that was like so't know what I was expecting, but, like, that was, like, so aggressively not what I was expecting. It wasn't really what I was expecting either, yeah. Whoa. It's scarier than I thought it would be. It looks really scary. It's really scary. It's really scary because, well, I don't know what happens, but just the idea of them also just doing an autopsy and kind of like discovering that she's been like killed in such a disturbing way I didn't even

like think about that but that makes a lot of sense it's really upsetting that is really upsetting yeah it's she's beautiful yeah and I mean I will say it's like I think it would have yeah lost something had it not been a real actress. But that said, I hope that on the like close up shots, they like covered her like she was allowed to be covered. I'm sure I'm sure she was an only. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah. That'd be crazy.

Oh, my God. OK, I am. I am fascinated. I want to know what it is. I know it's a great little it's a great setup and mystery. And I love fascinated. I want to know what it is. I know. It's a great little, it's a great setup and mystery and I love those. Like I thought it would be more of a

kind of thriller based on it kind of being like a medical mystery, what's happening, but it gets like full horror for sure. And that's, you know, for our purposes, perfect. Got a little bit, for our purposes, perfect. Got a little bit of both.

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tortures no which is great if you whisper it nobody can hear that's Bruce Bolton so that's yeah so yeah bad bad guy correct family he is not bad in this, but I just

have that association in my mind, so I was immediately on edge. He is a detective and arrives at this crime scene where there's multiple victims. I think it's four victims of a homicide.

Someone's been shot. Someone's been stabbed. There's blood everywhere. And as they're surveying the crime scene, one of the other detectives said, no signs of a break in. It actually looks like they were trying to break out. Then they find our Jane Doe naked, kind of half buried in the yard under the house a bit. And they're very confused by her. They can't ID her. No fingerprints in the system. And so then we cut to our morgue where we meet emil hirsch and brian cox emil hirsch is austin

and brian cox is tommy which like brian cox has a tommy what that makes no sense brian cox and emil hirsch i mean you don't need to but tommy it just i can't think of a name less suited for Brian Cox than Tommy. It's not right. It's not a fit. Maybe like Gene. But I have to say Austin for Emile Hirsch is kind of a perfect fit. That works. Honestly, it's weirder that his name is Emile. Yeah.

It should be Austin. It should be Austin. should be austin it should be austin um but so they are performing an autopsy on someone who is like a has been severely burned covered in he's like crispy and it's immediately like super gross but this is their job they're listening to like rock music on the radio there it seems you know they're not obviously grossed out by it but they're doing a very disgusting thing very casually. Brian Cox is kind of quizzing Emile Hirsch. Seems like he is obviously newer to this. Brian Cox has been doing it for much longer.

We find out that they are father and son. And this is a family business. And it's been in their family for generations and it's in the basement of their house and are all morgues like underground? I feel

like they always are in movies but way to make it creepier. Yeah, I do feel like every time I see it on screen, it is underground. Maybe it has something to do with the temperature. Yeah, it's colder underground. But

you can make it any temperature you want anywhere. Also, I'm just thinking about, like, I grew up in South Florida and you can't have basements there because it's water. It's too close to sea level. So, like, there's gotta be morgues there.

I guess I can understand why a horror movie would choose it to be in a basement though. It's definitely spookier. Sometimes are, sometimes aren't. That's probably right. That's probably right. It might have to do with the fact that they're usually part of a funeral home and the funeral home's on top

and the morgue's beneath it. Yes, maybe it is the funeral home's on top and the morgue's beneath it. Yes, maybe it is the funeral home is on top. That's probably what it is. Way to solve that one. Good job, Henley. Oh, thanks. Who knows if it's even right? It sounds right. It sounds right and that's all that matters.

That's good enough for us. We also see that they have a cat named Stanley. we're worried about that immediately stanley's dunzo bunzo and although i trust a cat more in a horror movie than a dog that's true yeah true um but so they do their gross like very gross autopsy. Cutting bones, like breaking open rib cages, throwing organs around. It's all happening very like cavalierly. And they finish up and they're getting ready to go and close up for the night and head home and then austin's girlfriend whose name is emma roberts in the in the movie which just kind of made me laugh her name's not that in real life but i just

thought it was funny to have a celebrity name as your character name that is really funny um so emma arrives and they're supposed to have a date and she comes into the morgue and is kind of asking to be shown around like can i see the bodies like she's interested in it and austin's saying no some things you can't unsee you don't want to see it and like my dad would be mad and then we see that brian cox is like in the room and he's like i'm not mad like if't want to see it and like my dad would be mad and then we see that brian cox is like in the room and he's like i'm not mad like if she wants to see it let her see it and he says like pick one and she point there's those little morgue drawers the cold lockers that they keep the bodies in and so there's three that currently have bodies in them and brian cox says pick one and she points to the one in the

middle and uh emile hirsch opens the one on the end instead and rolls the person out and it's a woman whose mouth and eyes are stitched closed ew and it's just very creepy and scary looking and she tries to act not freaked out by it. Like she she tries to put on a little brave face and she's like, I put I pointed to the middle one. Like the one I wanted to see is the middle one. She's like, are you sure? And she says, yes, he opens the middle one and the body in that one is covered with a sheet. And but we can see that on the face there's like not enough face

there the sheet is dipped down show like seeming like his face is mostly gone and there's blood on the towel and they say you know gunshot wound in the face and uh we don't see his face but she notices he has a bell tied around his ankle and asks about it. And Brian Cox explains, back in the day, it was hard to tell whether someone was in a coma or dead. And so they would hang a bell on them. And if they heard it jingle, it

meant, you know, the person was still alive. And he says, you know, I'm a traditionalist. I just, you know, like to keep it on just for funsies. I just do it for fun. Ay-yi-yi, we are going to hear some bells. Yeah, but we definitely know that's going to be coming back.

And so after that, then Austin and Emma are getting ready to go out on their date, and as they're heading for the elevator, the detective from the beginning comes in with Jane Doe's body and says, this is a rush. We need to figure out what happened to her tonight so I can have something to tell the press tomorrow. This is like a, you know, quadruple homicide. People are asking questions and so Brian Cox starts

you know heading to do the autopsy on Jane Doe and Austin tells Emma you know I need to be there for him right now and at 11pm I'll be all yours we can catch the late movie and she says it's been two years so there's this implication we infer that um brian cox's wife

emilie arch's mom has died two years ago and emma seems a little hurt by this. Like this maybe happens a lot is the kind of feeling we're getting. She's like, again, like it's been two years, but he's able to charm her and says, you know, I'll make it up to you and I'll see you at 11. And so Emma leaves and Austin goes. Can you imagine meeting up with somebody at 11 to start a date? God no. No I'm going to sleep. I'll see you another time. Do people do that? I can't imagine a date going to

11. I gotta be home by 10 or I turn into a pumpkin. I go to bed at 8.30 nowadays. It's my bedtime. I gotta be in bed at 10 reading a book or it's game over for me um but they head back in to start the autopsy they turn on their fun music again on the radio

and they open the body bag lay her on the table start. Step one of the autopsy is just the physical looking at her, taking photos, describing anything they see. And so Emile Hirsch is taking Polaroids and they're kind of saying, you know, Caucasian female hair brown. They open her eye. We saw in the trailer she has these milky gray eyes and so he's like eyes gray and um there's no external visible signs of any wounds or anything um but all of the bones in her wrists and ankles are shattered but there's no bruising or anything and so that's their first kind of huh like that's shouldn't be and then they open her mouth and see that her tongue is cut out and she is missing a tooth um and then they find that she has peat under her fingernails and in her hair which i don't really know what peat is i think it's like a type of dirt like it's like what you use it's like mulch yeah for some reason that's also

strange i guess there was no pete like where she was found is what it is like there's just a lot of things that are not matching up to the state that they found her in and so they're just at this point start just confused um as austin is taking photos he's taking a photo of her face and her nose slowly starts to bleed and a little drop of blood starts falling out and then we see something moving in her nose and a little fly crawls out and flies away and it's very gross. And then the radio kind of goes staticky and changes stations a bit. And we hear it changes to a news station. And we're hearing thunder in the distance. And the news reporter is saying, basically, a storm is coming.

Everybody, watch out. Okay coming. Everybody watch out. Okay. Storms, storms are brewing. FYI, storm just, everybody look out. Look out. Look out. Heads up. Storms are coming.

And after we hear that, the radio changes on its own again to another station and lands on a creepy old timey song that goes open up your heart and let the sun shine in i love it austin and tommy just kind of look at each other like huh so weird change it back to our freaking rock tunes and so they just walk over and change it back to the station rock tunes and so they just walk over and change it back to the station that they want wanted to be listening to and they start step two of the autopsy which is cutting her open which they cut a y-shaped incision across her chest and like down her belly and as um they cut it she starts really bleeding from it, like kind of pouring blood from it. Emile Hirsch says that's not supposed to happen. Right.

And Brian Cox says, I've seen it before, but only in corpses or only in people that have died within an hour or two, like very fresh corpses. within an hour or two, like very fresh corpses. But the way her eyes have gone that milky color would suggest she's been dead much longer than that. And so this is, again, just not adding up. What normally happens? Like, where does the blood go? You know what I mean? I feel like it sort of like hardens, maybe.

I have no reason to say that. I have no reason to say that. I have no reason to say that. I mean, it's a good guess. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. I just started talking. It's a good guess. It hardens. You turned to stone.

I had to have an answer? Like, I don't know. What was that? It congeals. I think what happens, and i also don't know but i would think your heart not beating anymore has something to do with it because your blood's not in motion yeah so it's all just like sitting still but what pump out yeah oh doesn't it doesn't don't you get rigor mortis because everything sort of said like it it might all settle at like the the

back back of your body if you're laying down, so it wouldn't pour out of the top. Oh, that makes sense. Right. There's nothing like thrusting it out of your body. Right. This blood right now for her is being thrust. It's being thrust out of her body in a way that just doesn't make sense. doesn't make sense um and so then they pull her skin open revealing her ribs and they start they bring in like bone cutter things and start sawing off her sawing her ribs off which is apparently how it's done which of course they would you their research. It makes a lot of sense that this is accurate to the process, but yeah, you cut their ribs off so that you can look at their organs.

So it shows it all. It shows them cutting the ribs off, kind of tossing them aside. It looks like a little baby back ribs. Wow. Okay. That's enough. And then inside, as they're looking at her organs, they see that her lungs are completely blackened and emil hirsch says i wouldn't have taken her as a smoker brian cox says no no no like you would have to be smoking a pack a day for 60 years for your lungs to look like this like this looks to me like she died in a fire like was breathing in smoke but i would expect her

to be covered in third degree burns based on this um he says this is like finding a bullet in someone's brain but no gunshot wound wow and then the rest of her organs are covered in little nicks and scars. Like they are like she had been sliced on her organs, which, again, doesn't make sense. What the freaking heck? Are they scared? Are they getting really spooked? Devilry. Like, are they confused or are they like wait this is scary

this is bad um they're not as scared as they should be that's for certain well yeah and i think you know they're scientists ish right and so i you get the sense that they're really trying to figure out why this is possible. I don't think they're yet thinking of anything supernatural, but they're just trying to figure out what the fuck's going on. They know something's not right, but they're not quite scared yet. But then we hear a banging somewhere in the building. There's kind of long hallways in this, in this morgue. Austin says he'll go out to, um, see what the noise is. And as he's walking down the hall, there's one of those convex corner mirror things, you know, like when you're reversing out of a driveway that shows you in all directions. And he sees down the hallway to the right from him. Jane Doe standing. Oh, no.

Just standing still. That's not good. Intact or cut open? Intact. Intact. cut open intact intact and he freezes in fear and slowly creeps to the corner to look around and she is not there of course but it's a very creepy moment i think this probably is that scared me the most i really it got me yeah and then he hears the banging again from another room goes in and it's coming from the vents and he looks in and it's kind of a jump scare something like runs by but it is the

cat stanley and he is very wounded i'm sorry henley if this is weird timing. Yeah. So he has been also seemingly attacked to a point that it's it's it's not looking like he will survive this attack. So sad. And Brian Cox comes in. He's heard some the commotion and they And they both look really, really sad. Brian Cox takes the cat and snaps its neck. Oh, geez. God. And then they take it to the incinerator room.

And it's a little funeral procession. They wrap him up. And it's done very sweetly. They're very upset and they carry him and they take him to the incinerator. And then they go back into the autopsy room and one of the cold lockers is open. That's not good. And Austin just says, oh, I must have left this open. Oh, that's not good. And Austin just says, oh, I must have left

this open. Nope, Austin. I don't think you did, Austin. Austin, you should have gone to that movie. You should have gone to that early show. But they get back to it. Step three of the autopsy is to look inside

the stomach and intestines. And so they cut open the intestines and they find a flower is called Jimson weed. It is a poison, poison flower that paralyzes you. They like pull out a little encyclopedia type book and look it up is how they're able to find this out and they also read that it is not native to this area it's more in the like northeast and the radio has switched back to the news now and we hear that the storm is being upgraded to level three or something. And now Austin, at least, is starting to look pretty scared and says, Dad, I think we should leave. I think we should get out of here. And Brian Cox says to him, if we start something, we finish it.

If you want to leave, go ahead and leave. So some subtext there's some past that we don't know quite what that is but it obviously makes Austin feel guilty and he stays so they keep going going through this contents of her stomach and they find a cloth and they pull it out and unwrap it and her tooth is inside of it oh god and the cloth has roman numerals scrawled on it and sigils and it's just very strange and they're like what is this like someone made her swallow this this is what is some kind of ritual they're like what is this like someone made her swallow this this is what is some kind of ritual they don't know what to make of it um and yeah at this point they're both kind of like this is impossible this shouldn't be possible uh what the fuck is going on and then on the radio

the news reporter weather reporter starts sounding a little bit sinister and says one thing's for sure you're not going anywhere tonight okay okay and then it switches back to let the sun shine oh no the sun shining and austin at this point is looking around looking really freaked out brian cox is um getting he's noticing something else on the body and he start he takes a little scalpel and starts peeling her skin away from the muscle and peeling it back and as he peels all of her like torso skin off we see that it is tattooed on the inside of her skin holy shit with more it's on now okay and then and then the lights explode and it gets completely pitch black in there and okay uh i this i said out loud to myself

okay time to get the fuck out of there and then brian cox says let's get the fuck out of here okay good okay good thank you brian thank you it's like okay we're on the same page um and but the they they run to the elevator but the power is out so the elevator does not work they go up the stairs where there is one of those little like basement doors that you would open up oh yeah like a what do you call tornado shelter trap door sort of situation yeah but a tree has fallen on top of it and so they can't open it and they go down to the office and try to make a phone call, but the reception is bad. It cuts out. And then they hear that little bell jingling. No!

No! And they hear it coming closer. And it does sound quite a lot like footsteps. And Emile Hirsch looks under the gap of the door of the office that they're in and he sees some nasty old corpse feet oh my god and panic starts you know pushing furniture in front of the door trying to block it out and but uh at this point also b, Brian Cox is in the bathroom in the office. It's like same same room, but in the bathroom. And because I think he hurt himself.

So he's trying to like rinse a wound that he fell or something. And then in the bathroom, he's not pooping. He's not pooping. Don't even worry about it. When you see that, I was like, oh, he took a poop break. No, it's fine. It's fine. Don't even think that it's he's hurt I was like oh he took a poop break no it's fine it's fine don't even think that he's hurt you know what's so funny is I was just

listening to how did this get made they talked about old and one thing they said was everyone should be pooping constantly because of the way time is passing

and because I have to eat so much. Yeah. It really made me laugh. But yeah, no, Brian Cox is not pooping. Neither does anybody in old. Doesn't make any sense. No one in movies poops

because no one in real life poops. That's right. Especially not women. It's fucking weird. If you poop, you're a fucking freak. You shouldn't. You shouldn't do it. Oh, God.

And he's not. So he's in the bathroom, but he then gets attacked. Emile Hirsch sees him pulled back by something he can't see. The door slams closed. He's eventually able to break it open and we see that Brian Cox has really been knocked around he's like now got bruises on his chest and like belly and he's like

hit his head he's a little disoriented and he said whatever attacked me had her same eyes like the gray eyes they say you know she's doing this. We need to figure out what the fuck's going on. Like, it's her.

So they decide to go back to the autopsy room. Great. And her organs have all rapidly decomposed that they had taken out of her. Just another weird thing that shouldn't happen. They're like, let's take her to the crematorium. Let's burn her. And before they can do that, the door locks on its own, locks them in the autopsy room.

They cannot get out. And Austin finds an axe in the room. Do you guys like how I'm alternating between Austin and Emile Hirsch basically every time? Yeah, perfectly fine. Honestly, I have not even noticed. Okay, great. Are the lights still off? I think there's some little backup generator, so it's not like full brightness, but

they're able to see. Okay. And Austin finds an axe and cuts through the door, but as he is able to make a little hole in the door, we see those stitched eyes and mouth that corpse lady, that first corpse we saw like jump in the in the hole. And it's a scary little jump scare and it's very gross. So they don't want to go out anyways, because that's where the reanimated corpses are. Oh, yeah.

So they're like, fuck it. Let's burn her here. They cover her in gasoline and throw a match on her. And the fire gets really out of control really quickly, like supernaturally. So like flames shoot to the ceiling in a way that they shouldn't and she does not burn so they are able to get a fire extinguisher and put the fire out but she is not burnt at all great great great they eventually realize okay well they going to have to get out of this room. Maybe take the axe with them. Take their chances.

Try to fight their way out. They got to get out of here. They go into the hallways. It's very smoky now and dark. So they can't really see what they're doing. And they just hear that little jingling bell. They see the... There's a really creepy shot where it's just them looking down the long hallway and you hear the jingly bell and then you just slowly start to see the outline of a man

coming towards them and they run and they run to the elevator because I think it's the only thing that they can reach. I think the stairs are behind the corpse guys so it's like the only thing available to them and they're trying to just close themselves into the elevator even though the elevator is not working or maybe they're hoping that it's working by now because the backup generators kicked

in but it's not working but they get into it and they're trying to close Hoping that it's working by now because the backup generators kicked in. But it's not working. But they get into it and they're trying to close the doors manually, like pressing them closed to protect themselves. And they're just hearing this jingling getting closer and closer. We see the man's face for the first time, the gunshot wound. So he's just no face, really just a big hole hole in his face and he gets to the elevator they're not able to close it and brian cox grabs the axe and brings it down um on the corpse corpse falls back but then we hear like a woman's gasp and they step out of the elevator and it's emma what and she is they axed that they axed oh holy shit austin is inconsolable sobbing brian cox is shocked also like stumbling backwards

and is she dead she they basically watch her die. Yeah. She's just kind of bleeds out in front of them. Yeah. She got axed real hard in the chest. So she dies. They both kind of just sit down and in shock in the elevator. And Austin is saying, this is my my fault like i told her to come back she wouldn't she would this wouldn't happen if it wasn't for me uh brian cox saying you can't blame yourself um this is actually this was my fault and i'm the one who did it and austin says

you couldn't have known and brian cox says that's what they said about your mother like you couldn't have known and Brian Cox says that's what they said about your mother like you couldn't have known um all that pain she was going through every day and I just didn't notice and so we assume that she died by suicide and um they they decide in this moment or they say you know there's something that jane doe doesn't want us to find and we've got to see this through we got to figure out what's going on that's our only chance or whatever so they decide to go back to that autopsy room one more time and they go to step four which is the brain examination so they get that bone saw cut off her scalp and they like peel it down her face and so from the front view or top view looking down at her face, it's like she's basically wearing a mask of her scalp. Ew.

It's so gross. Because they don't totally detach it. They just fold it down. And so, I don't know. I had never seen that before and it really grossed me out. Ew. And so they take a piece of her brain her brain looks normal they're like that's unusual it's the first thing basically that's been normal inside of her and so they cut a little

piece of it off to look at it under a microscope and it is alive her brain is working and alive. Oregon. Yes. And so she's just been participating in all of this. Yes. She's just been alert. Feeling her feelings. So being how did they know that she was dead? Did they? I don't think she has a pulse or anything.

I mean, her heart was not alive yeah no okay okay everything is pointing to her being dead yes it's just her brain that is still functioning that's not possible right that's terrifying that's like not possible scary that better not be possible yeah that's the worst part to still be alive the worst part and as emil hirsch is examining the brain tissue saying what the like this is this is impossible brian cox is looking at taking another look at that cloth that they pulled out of her stomach and folds it in half and then it allows the roman numerals to line up in such a way that it they're able to that. It says Leviticus 20, 27. They grab their Bible that they have in there.

And the Leviticus 20, 27 says, any man or woman that consults the spirits of the dead shall be put to death for they are a witch. And they have a moment where the cloth also says the year is 1693 which is the year of the salem witch trials and they have a moment of like putting it together like the the flower from the northeast 1963 like this is the sal witch trials, right? That's what this talking about. Brian Cox is like Salem witch trials weren't real. Like they weren't witches. They were innocent people that were put to death, you know, by the accusations of children. And like, it

wasn't real. They weren't real. They weren't witches. And then this is like, by by the way not at all where i thought this movie was going how do you guys feel in this moment i was not expecting it to have anything to do with the salem witch trials no same and so then tommy says what if in torturing an innocent woman, they created a witch, which I think is a pretty big logical leap. Yeah, I'm like, huge. That's bigger than when I guessed what blood does after you die. Do you think in this moment,

he's like, well, I had to say something. I just had to have a guess. Or not, you pitched something. And so that's kind of what they think happened. What they deduce has happened is that by inflicting so much torture on someone innocent that they unintentionally created the very thing they were trying to destroy. Which, yes, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. And we're just going to accept that.

No, it's like it's like what we talk about when we talk about people being detectives or whatever in movies. And I could never be detective because I would never make that logical jump like they do all the time. And it ends up being right. But like, did the pieces actually fit together? I don't think that they did personally but okay but for the sake of it let's just say that they do and um they realize she's keeping us alive for to like she says they say that she's getting her revenge. This is her revenge. She's lived this over and over. And at this point, Tommy kind of drops to his knees next to her, looks at her and says, please don't hurt my son.

Take me instead. Basically offering himself as a sacrifice, hoping that that will protect his son and it's like an intense little moment zoom in on her face and zooming in on him music's intense and then his wrists start shattering his ankles start shattering. He starts screaming in pain and he starts like bleeding through his clothes. His bruises on his stomach are looking very bad. And we see her, Jane Doe, healing and all of her skin going back together, looking like that, like nothing's ever happened she's fully healing and tommy is just in excruciating pain screaming austin's uh you know trying desperately to help him but can't tommy's reaching for a knife yeah and austin takes it and stabs him in the heart and kills him to put him out of his misery.

Does it work that way? Do you get to do that? Do you get to make that choice? Well, so an interesting thing is that on the Wikipedia, it says that Tommy was reaching for the knife to be able to cut out his tongue to finish the ritual, which I don't think was made clear in the movie, but it does not work. And maybe it's because of that missed step that he couldn't cut out his own tongue, but it's not super clear. But Austin is just sobbing over his dad's dead body now. And Janeane doe is still on the table kind of as we first saw her looking the same as we first saw her still looking dead um but as if she had not been cut open at all and he hears the detective at the door is i think who they called from the basement and he runs the detective is at the um door that's covered with the tree and we hear him kind of saying help me with the tree like it's falling over and austin is like yeah help help we need help in here and

uh the detective says open up open up uh open open up, open up your heart and let the sun shine. And Austin steps back, looks very scared. And there's a little balcony railing behind him. And he turns and sees his dad's dead body right next to him in his face. And he screams and falls backwards and falls off the railing and like lands very badly on his head. And he dies as well. OK. And then we see the police arriving the next morning thinking that they're coming back to, you know just get jane doe and they stumble upon a crime scene that is very similar to the one in the beginning oh and says you know it looks like they were desperately

trying to get out um and on the radio we hear fourth straight day of beautiful sunshine. No storm happened. No storm. No storm. And the detective is really freaked out and says, okay, we got to take Jane Doe to another morgue. Don't do it. But he says, take it out of this county. Like, I don't want her in this county, which is a very funny, like, well, OK. She's like, it's another county problem now.

And so they load her into an ambulance to transport her. And as the ambulance is driving away, the radio changes to let the sun shine in and her toe twitches. And that's the end of the movie okay so she was an innocent person who was tortured in 1693 to death and since then she's been coming back as a corpse to kill people. Why hasn't she done it more? And why haven't we noticed the trend? Probably because people are just shifting it to different districts. Yeah.

For 400 years. Freaky. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was really not yeah unexpected ending for sure how is this movie like alien exactly that's what yeah i was very confused by that quote like i thought for sure i thought for sure that there was going to be a literal like alien in her body or something like that like from that quote but yeah it's a it's a bizarre quote and like cronenberg also also no like i don't know enough about cronenberg to speak to that i guess the body horror but it's just it's not even a very cronenberg body horror i haven't seen tons

of cronenberg either but i think of cronenberg as like fucking gut-wrenching like horribly sad plots with tons of gross disgusting body horror which i mean i guess this was sad and gross but not to that extent not like the flying that's sad well it does sound like it was very probably scary to be watching it. Like the trailer looked really scary. I thought it was very scary. And I loved the mystery. We talk a lot about how, you know, things don't always stick.

Usually solving the mystery is less fun. Disappointing. But and I think that is the case here. But nonetheless, I really enjoyed it. And yeah, Gabby, thank you for picking it. I'm really glad to have seen it. Yeah, I'm glad to know about it. And just like Brian Cox is such a good actor.

He's just so fun to watch. And a horror movie in which he is the star. Sign me up. sign me up perfect yeah sign me anytime uh i will watch that any day of the week any day of the week come on yeah wow it was yeah i mean i it's i don't even know what to say about it except um i hope that that's not a thing where you can be tortured to the point where you become a witch and haunt people

for years to come I hope so too as y'all know I've been dabbling in a bit of witchcraft myself I haven't come across any of this kind of thing just yet but I will keep you posted. Please. Sorcery.

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