Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE BLACKCOAT'S DAUGHTER

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

Boiler rooms, (hairless?) nuns, and squeaky, squeaky doors - this week we're recapping the only A24 movie Sammy has never seen, THE BLACKCOAT'S DAUGHTER! Kiernan Shipka, Emma Roberts and Lucy Boynton star in this moody, spooky film.  TRAILER Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. Most of the time that's what happens. Except this week.

Sometimes that's not what happens. Sometimes it's not. As you will soon find out. But before we get into that, did anything scary happen to us this week? Well, speaking of watching scary movies, tomorrow is Halloween. Ooh, baby. Scariest of holidays. And in anticipation of Halloween, I've been wanting

to get a little more in the spooky spirit, wanting to watch some scary-ish things. Ish-ish is the key. Ish-ish-ish. What I love, I wish there were more movies that are like for adults, but are Halloween moody but not scary. We've talked about this before.

Like, I don't want it to be a kids movie. I want it to be an adult movie, but I want it to be an adult's movie, but I want it to be, you know, Halloween vibey. And I have found a couple of those, and I will say... I'll tell you. One is Sleepy Hollow, which I had never seen. Isn't that crazy?

I saw that, like, when I was too young. It's great. It's super... I mean, I know it's like, ooh, don't eat up, but, you know super fun. I mean, I know it's like, ooh, Johnny Depp, but you know, whatever. I personally was able to move past it. And if you're not, I also understand that. But perfect Halloween ambiance movie. Perfect, perfect

spooky, but not scary and fun. I feel like that was also when Johnny Depp was still somewhat interesting as an actor. He really went off the rails in the last 10 years. Yes, yes, Jack Sparrow. In several ways he went off the rails.

The Mad Hatter, Jack Sparrow era is, yeah. But he was great in it and it's a very fun Halloween ambience movie so even though this episode comes out after Halloween, if you're still in the mood I'd recommend that. I'd also recommend which, oh my god, this isn't even, i haven't even gotten a thing that i wanted to talk about this week and i have to get to it because we have to get to it but like this i

could talk about for a thousand years which is i finally saw interview with a vampire which how did it take me this long what was i fucking doing it's incredible it's so weird it's kind of bad but it's also one of the best things i've ever seen and it and tom cruise tom cruise tom cruise oh my god i love him so much i love him so i haven't seen him he's such a good actor i should re-watch it as well god it's a real the ruffles the ruffles the hair the oh my god it's so good um but okay but the big the big thing is that last night i finally did a thing that i've been saying i would do for three years what is it which is i watched midsommar i didn't you're gonna say titanic i thought you were gonna say titanic i will do that i will do that but you know it's halloween um but i finally oh god i finally watched midsummer

watched the director's cut because that was all um marty had so it was long but it didn't feel long it was the fastest three hours of my life i gotta say it was three hours geez yeah it was long um oh my god that movie is so good it's so good it's so funny it's so funny it is really upsetting i was braced for the beginning part but what i didn't expect to be the thing that really like made give my bones chilled was um uh her grieving oh oh the way she screams oh my god oh my god oh my god florence oh Oh, she's when she finds her family's dead and when she finds out they're dead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's it's done so well. Her screams blend into the music into the music. It's very upsetting. It is very upsetting, but she's incredible. Everyone is so good. It's so fun. It's like it's a masterpiece.

Oh, my God. Even when they're jumping off the cliff and their legs are breaking and they're still alive. I'll say this about the cliff. Thank God I knew that was coming. And here's the thing. When you told me about it, Sammy, I pictured them all being at the top of the cliff and the people jumping off and them looking down and seeing them at the bottom of the cliff. No, it's the opposite. They're all at the bottom of the cliff and the people jumping to them.

They have front row seats. So they are. They are are they are right right right there and so are we and oh my god i was like as soon as that scene started i was like oh my god we're at the bottom of the cliff oh no i pictured it the same way i pictured it the exact same way and it's that really changes things and it is those look like the biggest hardest rocks you've ever seen in your life. Wow. It's so good. But also, it's really triumphant. And I think is a super happy ending, as we talked about when we covered it.

But like watching it, I was like, yes, fuck yes, Danny. Christian. Also, it was conveyed to us via the retelling. But in watching it. Wow. He's the worst. He's the worst fucking person ever. He's the worst fucking person ever.

He's the worst. What did you think of the drug tripping scene? It was very fun. It was really cool. There were more drug trips than I felt like I remembered there being, which were always really fun. Oh, right. Because they're a bunch. And it's like the background.

It's just, it's such an incredible movie. It's an incredible movie. It is so well done. I feel like they're basically on drugs for the whole like third act of the movie. They're on drugs for a lot of it. Yeah. I was thinking of the shrooms. The shrooms is in the beginning. I feel like they're basically on drugs for the whole like third act of the movie. They're on drugs for a lot of it. Yeah. I was thinking of The Shrooms. The initial one.

The Shrooms is in the beginning. That one is great. Yeah. That one scared me when I heard about it. It's fucking. I really. Truly. I really recommend.

And I really didn't think it was scary. I really. And I know we covered it. And so that helped. But like it's. You see everything coming a mile away. It's. It's unsettling.

But it is incredible. away. It's unsettling, but it is incredible. Yeah, it's incredible. I'm like, I can't stop thinking about it. And it's because of this podcast that I was able to do it. Wow. Yay. She did it. Yay. Oh, my God.

Emily. Happy Halloween. So happy Halloween. Did anything scary happen to you guys this week um well the scary thing that happened to me this week is that someone recognized me on the street that's so crazy is that okay to talk about on the podcast i guess it's scary it happened to you so yeah the scary thing is how many people i've told, which is everyone now on the podcast, too, including who's listening to this episode. It's crazy.

I mean, I can't. That's a wild thing to experience. It just pierced the fourth wall of life in a way that kind of scared me, cut me deep to the bone. But it was still such a lovely experience. It really rattled you're not just chatting with your two friends hold on um no she was so nice and i just had it was such a lovely experience and I you know don't really know what else to say except that it happened and one thing about living in New York is you really do feel like you're living in your own little world like walking around even though there's so many people everywhere so to have

someone kind of like emerge from the crowd and be like are you Henley I was like oh what isn't that crazy I think about some like you know how sometimes if you're driving or in your case and you're walking and you like drive past someone or walk past someone, you know, and you go like, oh, that was so-and-so, but it's not enough of a moment to ever do anything with it. It just like, it's a thing that happens. And like every now and again, I remember that that the reverse is true. Sometimes I'll be like walking in the world and someone I know will see me and I won't know that they did.

And I don't know. It's like, that's not quite the same, but it's just, it's like, we just, you just can't know. I always wonder about, uh, this just reminded me, I always wonder about who has dreams about me. Cause I'll have dreams about such random people. Like someone from high school that is just like, where the fuck did that come from? Like you didn't even remember they were still in your brain, let alone like, yeah. And I'm like, that's happening in other people's brains too it's happening in other people's brains it's like just give me a text just send me a text in your dream hey if you dream about me send me everything send me a text and tell me what was happening

tell me what i was doing i want to know how i was manifested in your subconscious um what do i represent to you i wish i remembered my dreams i don't remember them ever do you guys remember them i usually do yeah and i have a lot yeah sammy you do you have a really active dream life i remember them sometimes but i would say the majority of the time i do not remember them no i don't um anyway so you know what what is the world we're living in? I do feel like it's probably a simulation. Probably like the facts are stacking up for me too. And I was going to talk about a thing this week, but I won't cause it's too stupid,

but like the facts are stacking up and I feel like maybe that's what you're going to talk about. Tell us what it is. Just tell us. I just, I found a duplicate of something that I'm certain I don't have to have. And so it's like where did that come from? Emily I always love

yours I always love them I put my thing back in the place that it always goes I cannot conceive of a time I would have gotten another one yes and it was there already that is a really good

then there were two there and I was like, but what the fuck? It's like a nail tool that I use a lot and I'm like, in all the times I've taken it and put it back in its spot, there's never another one there. Yours are good because they're in the physical realm. Mine are

always like, I listen to an episode of Poog and they're talking about exactly what I was talking about two weeks ago and I'm like, no, it's just because I don't have original thoughts. That's not the same thing as being in a simulation. Yours are like physical examples. Also, mine are usually I'm stupid and I did buy a second one or I'm listening to the sound I'm already playing. Do you know what I mean? Anyway, let's see if Sammy's is good.

The wind chime was a funny example no mine is just that i'm reading recursion right now and so what is that the blake crouch one i feel like you've read it oh no i i don't think so i read his old blake i read the older blake crouch not is that the newer one um i don't know when it was from but it's basically about well it starts out as being about something called false memory syndrome and people start experiencing yeah like lifetimes of memories that didn't happen that feel really really real and then you start learning that it's more about like time travel space time so it gets do you like it is it good weird yeah it's really

really good oh maybe i'll read that i read dark matter and that came out in 2016 i haven't i that's the only one i've ever read yeah they're similar it's kind of like trippy make me feel weird while i'm reading them hurt my brain a little bit, but in a fun way. In a fun way. I'm reading Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. Kurt Vonnegut? Oh, God. I wish I was fucking cool enough to be reading

Kurt Vonnegut. Recently, Tim was trying to get me to read Kurt Vonnegut because he loves it so much. And I tried. I didn't even know which one I was trying to read. I know. They really do. I've tried so many times. I've tried so many times, you guys. Yeah, I've never tried. I'm just like, I don't care. Really? And there are quotes. There are quotes from him that I really like. And I just I don't know. It's not I I'm just I'm going to be brave enough to say that I don't

really like Kurt Vonnegut. That's crazy. Kurt Vonnegut is your music. You know, that's crazy. You gotta be brave enough to say that you don't like something. Such an asshole response from Sandy. That's crazy. That's crazy. I guess I haven't read any of I Am in a long time, so I don't know. I remember being pretty into it at the time. Pretty like high school. I know that I'm the one in the wrong

here. I just need to give it. I will try and I will let you know which one of you is correct. Thanks, Emily. You're welcome. Okay, Sammy, what's your thing? What are your friends are for? This is just something that took up more of my headspace

than it should have, which is that this week, Matthew Perry said, or Matthew Perry was quoted in his book. I think there's two different parts in his memoir. There are two different parts there are. Where says, why is River Phoenix dead?

And while Keanu Reeves still walks among us, it's a great, really crazy for so many reasons. It's also just so crazy that none of his publishers were like, oh, let's take that part out. Let's maybe not. And let's not do it twice. That's the thing it's like one thing to say offhand like why is keanu reeves still alive while river phoenix is dead or chris farley was the other person that he said it about and it's one thing to like maybe accidentally say that in an interview but to write it twice in a book that has to be reviewed and like edited and

twice in a book that has to be reviewed and like edited and it's just so crazy and it's so mean and it's so weird such a weird thing to say does he know keanu reeves personally he has to have something in him that is so i think this is the scary part for me was like i was like i need to understand why he did this and i think i kind of got there in the end and i think it's that i mean he he is an addict and he's talking about two addicts chris farley and river phoenix that died of overdoses and keanu reeves was friends with river phoenix and apparently matthew perry like thinks he didn't do enough to intervene with his friend and so it's like him projecting kind of his

own things onto Keanu Reeves how that works but I watched Matthew Perry's Diane Sawyer interview I was just like I need to understand how anyone could hate Keanu Reeves like what you're like Diane ask the question.

Diane, ask. Diane, this is why you got the interview, Diane. But yeah, it just really shook me that anyone could. You don't ever hear of people hating Keanu Reeves. Could hate Keanu. He's not. He's not right. What a weird target to choose.

Just someone so beloved so notoriously kind and like good to his fans and good to the crew of his films and like really hard working and just like loves what he does he's a good man i think that would be something that sammy would it like what would it mean to you if Keanu Reeves it came out that he was bad I would be really really upset that would be so upset it would really

be devastating it won't but that's the thing is he doesn't put his hands on women's backs when he takes photos with them yeah the Keanu hand it floats it floats behind their backs because he doesn't want to touch anybody inappropriately. He's very conscious of everything he does. I didn't

know that. That's huge. He's perfect and we're just, look, there are some people who some of us love dearly who there are probably some really bad things about in the world. Tom Cruise. But Keanu's

not one of them. Maybe it's Tom. Maybe it's not. But it's not. It's not Keanu. And we can all hold that. Yeah, let's not go anywhere near that. It's not even fun to imagine the counterfactual there. It's not even fun. So we won't.

So we won't. We won't do that. It's not even close to fun. No, it's not even fun to like imagine the counterfactual there It's not even fun So we won't So we won't We won't do that Not even close to fun No, it's not fun But Matthew, speak up Tell us more I think he did apologize, by the way I think because of the

But did he give context? I think maybe what I said was like what I read in his response Okay, okay, okay Yeah, like I'm taking it out on You know Yeah Interesting think maybe what i said it was like what i read in his response okay okay okay yeah i mean like i'm taking it out on um you know yeah interesting interesting yep just spent a lot of time thinking about this this week did his book come out i believe it did yes did you did you read it matthew perry's book i have not read it. You know, I'm not actually a big fan of autobiographies. Me neither.

I don't love a memoir, but I might check it out. But I say that a lot of times with celebrities' books, because I'm like curious, but then when it comes down to it, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if I'm that curious. Did you read Matthew McConaughey's Green Lights? I sure didn't.

People fucking loved it. Tim and I tried to listen to it because we heard so much about it. And it was like really tough. Listen to it though. Seems fun. Is he the reader? I presume. Yeah, he's the reader.

He's the reader. Oh, he's the reader. Oh, he's the reader. It's a lot. It's a lot. Oh, he's the reader. He's the reader. And he's out.

Yeah. Oh, whatever. That's a whole other conversation. All right. Should we fucking get into this movie? Let's talk about. He's the reader. And he's out. Yeah. Oh, whatever. That's all the conversation. All right. Should we fucking get into this movie? Let's talk about this week's movie. We should. Okay.

This week's movie is The Black Coat's Daughter. And I watched it. Wow. Wow. So everyone. Huge week. The crowd goes wild. All right. The crowd goes wild. She's so brave.

All right. So it was written and directed by Oz Perkins. And it's starring Emma Roberts, Kiernan Shipka, Lucy Boynton, and James Remar. I didn't know Boynton was in it. Boynton? Oh, yeah. Boynton. Oh, we got Boynton? We got Boynton.

Oh, we got Boynton. We love Boynton. Boynton. Do you guys know who James Remar is? Remar? No. You would recognize him in a heartbeat. He's kind of a that guy. The thing I know him from is he is the dad

in Dexter. So he's always in his box. Oh, okay. Yeah. Definitely a that guy. He was also in Vampire Diaries, which, man, I didn't even talk about the content I watched this week. Almost exclusively Vampire Diaries, which, man, I didn't even talk about the content I watched this week. It's almost exclusively Vampire Diaries. Oh, my God. Also.

I almost started it last last night. I it is so good. It is irreproachable. It is perfect. It is. It's the only thing I ever want to watch the rest of my life. Wow. It's those early 2000s outfits.

Oh, my God. And anyway, anyway i also watched the witches of eastwick which i have a lot to say about too but we don't need to get into that right now um this movie was released by a24 it was filmed in 2015 came out in 2017 sorry real quick are those three women supposed to look identical is that part of the plot of this movie? Because I just pulled up the cast to Google to see. And the image that comes up of the three of them in a row is like, I'm seeing the same face three times. And it's really tripping me out. Well, one thing that's connected is that they have all worked with Ryan Murphy.

So each of them have worked with Ryan Murphy. That must be it. You must be seeing the Ryan Murphy. So each of them have worked with Ryan Murphy. That must be, you must be seeing the Ryan Murphy. I'm seeing the Ryan Murphy. It's because it must be because Ryan Murphy has a type. You know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, I'm not going to answer that question. Okay. Oh, okay. Great. 5.9 on IMDb, 74% on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 68% on Metacritic.

Okay. The box office says it made $38,000. Not great. Not great. That is not good. I think it was mostly released direct to streaming. It was like mostly released on TV. It did have a theater release, but limited.

One theater, one day. Yeah, pretty limited. And I couldn't find the budget, so I don't know. Yeah, they don't want you to know. It was its director, Mike Flanagan. Ever heard of him? He lists this as his favorite horror movie, according to Screen Rant. We've had it requested quite a lot.

Yeah, I mean. Wow. People like this movie. I'm excited to hear about it. Well, the writer and director, Osgood Perkins, is here's some more trivia. I just launched into the trivia. He's a horror movie royalty. He's the son

of Anthony Perkins, who's the actor who played Norman. Yeah. And Psycho as well as its three sequels. So this was Oz Perkins hot, I presume then. Oh my God. Look it up. I don't know. I didn't see any pics.

I mean, let's pause the podcast please keep in the length of pause that we just did in real time to find out if he's hot yeah he's hot okay cool that was worth it. That was worth it. But he's also kind of a little scary looking. Okay, well. He was an actor in a bunch of things, but in little tiny roles. Like he was in Legally Blonde, technically, as like a little side role. Technically. I'm technically in Legally Blonde. This movie was initially titled February.

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The entire color palette is very dark gray, dark blues. Everyone's extremely pale. It's not a vampire movie. It's not. So get your head out of that space. But it is, I mean, the alternate title is February. It takes place in like deep winter cold. Yes, yes.

February, a very tough month. It's a tough month, especially in the Northeast where they are. It starts with a creepy, haunting song called Black Coat's Daughter. And it's this creepy woman. I wish I could try to sing it. She's like, deedle, deedle, black coat. Deedle, deedle. That's not where I expected this to start. Deedle, deedle deedle deedle deedle that's not where I expected this to start

deedle deedle deedle deedle in the very creepy song deedle deedle you just have to trust me that it is very creepy okay I can't sing it but the lyrics are black coat's daughter

what was in the holy water gone to bed on an unclean head, the angels, they forgot her. Ooh. Ooh. Everyone's sufficiently scared. Yeah. So the first shot is of Kiernan Shipka. She's asleep in bed.

There are very loud strings. The music is very moody and sad and instrumental the entire time. It's cutting between her asleep in her dormitory bed and then of the dream that she's having. And in her dream, she's alone. She's walking through an empty landscape that's covered in snow. And then suddenly this kind of tall black figure appears next to her, starts walking. You can't see him. You can kind of only see his torso. And it's cutting between that and then her back in the bedroom and different like poses sleeping and then at one point she kind of wakes up and a dark figure like passes over the screen and she like looks tired and she goes daddy you came early and then one thing to

note about the performances across the board for everyone, almost expressionless. Like no one is giving emotion in this film. Everyone is very muted, very flat the entire time. Interesting. So then it cuts back to her dream and she sees a car burning in the distance and she looks sad and devastated. And she just says, mommy. That's how it opens.

That's all we get. Mommy in a burning car. Daddy came early. Daddy came early. Deedle deedle. So then she's awake. It's starting her day. It's very's very very early it's basically dark outside and she's slowly marking off days on her calendar what time period is this did you say

it's it's right now it's like 2015 okay i was imagining like 1800s didn't the moon kind of create an 1800s type vibe i should i thought it was going to be like that when I looked at the title. The Black Coat's Daughter, yeah, feels like it would be. I'm glad I asked because I was picturing the wrong thing. Well, one weird thing I will tell you about this movie is that even though it takes place like in modern time, one thing to note is that there are like no cell phones. I mean, they are using pay phones and physical phones, landlines. She's awake. She's marking off the days of her calendar until today. It's February 22nd.

And on that day, she's written mom and dad in a heart. And so clearly today's the day they are coming. She's going to see her. Kiernan Shipka's character is named Catherine. She goes to a Catholic girls boarding school called the Bramford School. And this whole movie takes place like or this part takes place like over a weekend. And it's the last day before her winter break. And there's a school recital. She's performing in it. And she's kind of summoned to Father Brian's office, who I guess is maybe her music teacher or someone, to let her know that he won't be able to make it to her recital. is so like reserved that it's hard to know exactly what she's thinking. At one point during the conversation, she looks in the corner of the room and kind of very slightly smiles. And Father Brian is like, is something funny? She's like, no. And he's like, you smiled. And she's like, oh. And that's kind of how a lot of the dialogue goes in this movie.

All right. It's very tense and awkward. Then we meet Lucy Boynton's character. Her name is Rose. It's picture day. She is walking in to get her picture taken and we get a very extended kind of slow-mo shot of her walking into the classroom. She's like, her hair's, she's flinging her hair over her shoulder. She looks pretty sad. She sits down on the stool and then slowly like

lifts her head up to get her picture taken and a huge smile comes across her face. The picture's taken and then the smile like slowly goes down and she looks like extremely depressed again and then walks out of the room. And there's like just this long extended scene of that happening. Okay. She goes to the nurse with a headache. They give her some pills and then she chats with her friend outside smoking a cigarette. And she tells she's talking about how she's anxious because she's four days late on her period. And her friend is like, are you going to tell the guy? She's like, I don't know.

Do you think I should? Just not sure what to do. And then she's the next thing is her sitting alone in an auditorium listening to the principal give a very condescending speech about good conduct over break. And the speech is not important. But the thing that's weird is at the end, he finishes by going, sound good. And then the entire auditorium goes, sounds good. It's not like culty or anything. It's more like just a weird school thing.

Yeah. Yeah. So then we get a shot of all the cars coming in. The parents are arriving for the recital. Everyone's being picked up to go home for winter break. Catherine is standing outside on the driveway waiting for the cars, watching all of them roll through. Her parents are not arriving. She's looking very sad. Kiernan Shipka then goes on stage to do her performance. And it is really mediocre, like extremely mediocre.

She just plays the piano. No, I think she's giving it her all. I don't know. Like in the movie. Are we as an audience supposed to think that it's mediocre? I think as we as an audience are thinking like this is just an extremely normal like 14 year old girl. Like she's supposed to be a freshman. Oh, this is not.

Yeah. OK. She's playing the piano. She's singing. I mean, in the beginning, you thought maybe she was going to be some kind of like music prodigy or something. The way she was having this conversation with Father Brian, where he was like, I'm so sorry. I've been working so hard. I'm going to miss your recital.

Got it. Got it. But she's just fine. But she's just fine. She's just normal. She finishes her performance. She glances out into the auditorium. No one's there. Her parents

have not arrived. Catherine and Rose are after the recital. They're both summoned to the principal's office to ask why their parents haven't shown up. The principal, Mr. Gibson, he's like, Catherine, have you tried calling them? We've tried calling them. We haven't heard from them. We don't know where they are. Rose, where are your parents? And Rose tells him like, oh,

I just got the days wrong. I told my parents to come on friday they're not going to be here till friday and he's pissed he's like you guys can't live here but fine like you can stay here the nuns will be here you can hang out with them and rose you have to take care of katherine because she's a freshman and yeah are you guys so scared yet? Terrifying. Yeah, it's really spooky. Rose is not into this idea. And later she tells Catherine she's going out. She's like, I'm not going to take care of you. Catherine, so sad. You guys, Karen Shipka. She's just sad. You know? Yeah. Okay. 14 is a hard age.'s a hard age she's like mr gibson said you have to look after me and rose is like i don't give a fuck what mr gibson said

don't go into my room don't touch my stuff like i'm going out and then she just slides in a fun little anecdote about how the nuns worship the devil. She's like, the nuns don't have any hair. Have you ever looked at their eyebrows? Their eyebrows are fake. They don't have any hair on their body. Because of devil worshipping? They worship the devil.

Huh. And Catherine's like, where did you hear this? And Rose doesn't answer. Interesting. And Catherine's like, where did you hear this? And Rose doesn't answer. So. Interesting. The first thing Catherine does, obviously, when Rose leaves, is go into her room and touch all her stuff. Yeah. So she goes and picks up her hairbrush and there's a long, moody shot of her staring at her hairbrush as Rose leaves to go on a date with this guy who's impregnated her, potentially.

All right. Cut to a bus station. Now we meet Emma Roberts' character. She is looking sad, too. Oh, man, you guys. Everyone is sad as fuck in this movie. It's February. It's dark.

It's the middle of the night. She's arrived on a bus. She's alone. She's clearly run away from a psychiatric hospital hospital. another patient struggling in restraints. And back in the bus station, she goes into the bathroom and is like breathing heavily. And she rips off a hospital bracelet that she has on. Then she goes back outside. She's waiting for another bus to come. And a man, this is the dad in Dexter. I can't even remember the actor's name now. John Remar, something like that.

Sounds right. Yeah. He walks past her and asks her if she needs a ride. Uh-oh. This actor's the perfect guy to play this part because he is truly equally comforting because most of the characters I've seen him play have been good characters. Great. But he's also really threatening.

He has a really deep voice. He's pretty tall. And he's something like creepy about him honestly so um he asked her if she needs a ride he's like i promise i'm okay like you'll be safe with me well if you promise promise oh well he points to his car which is idling in the distance, just with the headlights. See, I have a car. And he's like,

my wife is in the car. Like, just come. You'll be fine. Like, we can take you where you need to go. I'm like, don't get in that fucking car.

But then we cut to her getting in the car and the wife is in the car. She's in the front seat. Um, and Emma says she wants to go to Portsmouth. And they say that they're going right next to it to a town called Brantford. Okay. And she doesn't look happy about it, but she's kind of like, okay. So then we cut back to Rose and Catherine. Rose gets back home from her date. She's told the boy about the baby and he wants to help her,

but she just breaks up with him. She checks in on Catherine's room because, you know, she's supposed to be taking care of her and it's empty. So she's like, oh, fuck. And she goes to the bathroom to get ready to go to bed and she starts hearing voices coming through the vents. And then she starts hearing some thumping

coming through the vents. Yeah, so cue now. through the vents and then she starts hearing some thumping coming through the vents yeah so q now just like the longest eeriest walk through dormitory hallways everyone else has hairless nuns hairless nuns it reminds me of the witches in roald dahl remember how they are all like all were hairless and disgusting? So this part of the film, there's no music. It's quiet except for the doors opening and closing. And all of the doors just need to be greased.

They need some WD-40s so bad. It's just creaking. It's creaking. And she's walking. He keeps hearing this thumping thumping and she's hearing it downstairs so she walks are they like basically the only two people in this building it's completely empty and completely dark and it's also like the middle of the night she's come back from her it's always like constantly it feels like it's the middle of the night and so finally she reaches the basement she goes down into the basement she gets finally to the final room there which is the boiler room and she looks through a little glass window and we just get a quick shot of katherine in front of the boiler like on her knees just slamming

her head into the ground. Oh my god. And that's probably a really hard ground. Like cement I bet. That's the thumping. Oh my god. It's like echoing through the whole building. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And

she obviously is like, her eyes get, you know, Rose's eyes get super huge she gasps one fucking night this girl is slamming her head on the ground but we quickly cut away from that back to emma roberts character her name is joan by the way um joan wakes up in a hotel room so last we saw she was in a car now she's in a hotel room um with a little note next to her that said i thought i should let you sleep bill bill's the guy that picked her up does she seem like confused she seems like not okay everyone the entire time no one seems okay in this movie like no one's ever okay um she seems like confused and doesn't know what to do disoriented um she grabs her purse and empties it out and goes through it then she goes into the bathroom

and undresses to take a shower and we see um that there's a healed over bullet wound bullet hole in her shoulder she's also like covered in bruises and she has a quick flash of a man shooting a gun at her and then a quick flash of that of father bill the guy we saw earlier his face hovering over her um not the same guy the guy who shot her someone else so and this bit father bit wasn't the same as bill The guy who shot her is someone else. And this father Bill isn't the same as Bill. Oh yeah, no. Wait. No, it's not the same. Wait, are both their names?

Maybe it's Father Brian. Father Brian sounds right. The other guy's Bill. It'd be pretty crazy if they had... It'd be very funny if they were all named Bill and it wasn't a thing. No, obviously it's Father Brian. Yes. Okay, okay. Got it.

She's showering. She gets out. She wraps herself in a towel and then there's a knock at her door. She's looking pretty anxious. She slowly walks over to the door. She looks to the little people. She sees, she obviously recognizes

it. It's Bill. He's like, can I come in? No. And she's like, okay, and just lets him in. He comes in, she sits on the bed, he sits down across from her. And he's like, I guess you're pretty tired. You slept for four hours. You know, you fell asleep as soon as we got in the car. I thought that you clearly needed some rest. She's like not talking at all. And then she says, why are you helping me? And he asked her if she believes in God. And she says, no. She's like, no. She's like, no, she's clearly really traumatized and very certain that she does not believe in God. And he says he gives her this whole kind of monologue about how he believes in God. He sees God in coincidences and that strange as it may sound, he saw God in her because she really recognized she really she was really familiar to him.

And she reminded him of someone that he knows if some man offers me a ride and then puts me up in a hotel and tells me that I'm so familiar to him I'm

at a level 10 fear terrified level 10 Fear terrified Level 10 This is bad This is very bad Does she look very scared She looks very scared she's also like huddled in her towel She's just sitting in a towel

I want her to be wearing clothes Yeah and of course And um And then at this point Oh I guess I think I messed up. I think that at this point he says they're going to Brantford and she's like, where's your wife? Great question. And he's like, she's sleeping. She's sleeping. So you're like, I don't like any of this.

But then you cut back to Catherine and Rose. So Catherine is now taking a shower rose is standing outside of the shower she's like you're sleepwalking right she just is like you're sleepwalking like do you do that a lot like that's what was happening right she's clearly convinced herself that like everything's fine she saw was maybe normal and katherine karen and chipka you guys like bloody is her head fucked up no she's fine she's completely fine um she just says from the shower she goes give us nothing katherine yeah she's giving us nothing she's giving us nothing um and then they go

back into Catherine's room. She's like getting into her pajamas. She gets into bed and Rose is, you know, like telling her like it's going to be okay. Like our parents are going to come tomorrow and we're going to leave and it's all going to

be fine. And Catherine just says like, my parents are dead. And Rose is like, that's not funny. You're not being funny. Like, stop joking about that. That's really messed up. Like, just don't make jokes like that. Okay.

It's time to go to bed. Like, we're going to bed. Can I get you anything else? And Catherine just goes, no, you had your chance. Oh, my God. And Rose is like, okay. And just goes back to her room. Everything in this movie is, like, so muted.

Like, there's, like, such little actual dialogue. It's so silent most of the time and so then Rose like goes back into her room and she's kind of like what the fuck like am I everything's fine or is it not fine like what the hell

where are the nuns she pushes the her dresser in front of her bed and in front of her door just to be safe won't stop satan it might work so then we get a quick shot of katherine sleeping she's sleeping in bed she starts kind of grunting and writhing and then just the quickest shot you've ever seen she's on her stomach suddenly her legs just fly up over her head ever seen. She's on her stomach. Suddenly her legs just fly up over her head and her feet go next to her head.

Like she does like a backwards, like, like completely contorts her body, like just really quickly. And it's so fast and so like quiet. It's just like, and then it's over. And that's all you see. Or it cuts away or she goes back to laying normal no no it cuts away like you just see her you don't see it go back you just see it go forward but it's so fast is it like something that you think kiernan shipka's body did or is there like some sort of no no imagine okay this is it imagine you're sleeping on your stomach then imagine bringing your feet up next to your head this like this way

and putting them next to your head can you imagine doing that this is my head these are my legs they go and then your feet land next to your head that That would be crazy. Just like really fast. But does it look like VFX or is it like they got like a little body double contortionist? They got a contortionist and they did it from like the other side of the room. So you can kind of just see her silhouette. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And you see her head on the pillow. And then you see her feet there.

Her head is on the pillow. And she kind of opens her eyes and she like grunts and then you cut to the far away shot and you see her legs go up and go over her head and then it's over crazy that there are contortionists who can do that i mean remember malignant i do that was do i ever will it ever top that? I don't know. This makes this is like the kiddies table compared comparatively. So cut back to Joan Emma Roberts. She's back in that hotel room. She has her towel on. Bill is inviting her down for dinner. He says his wife is is still isn't around but he's like you're probably hungry will you come downstairs and eat dinner with me says why did his wife have eyebrows and hair on her head yeah you didn't really see her you did see her kind of clearly for like one second she's in the driver's or the passenger seat of the car she looks like pissed

off that they picked up emma roberts. So she goes downstairs to have dinner with him. It's just him. And he at this dinner, he immediately is like, the person you remind me of is my daughter. We lost her nine years ago. And we're going to her grave to put flowers on it. We go every year. It's the anniversary of her death tomorrow. And he's like, do you want to see a picture of her?

And he takes out a picture of her from his wallet, hands it over, and it's Rose. It's Rose. It's Lucy Boynton's character. It's Lucy Boynton. Yeah. It's Lucy Boynton's character.

That's interesting. Yeah. It's Lucy Boynton's character. That's interesting. Okay. So it's that picture we saw, I remember, in the beginning, her picture day picture. Picture day. Yeah, where she was slow-mo walking into the room, big smile. Which was the same day that they didn't get picked up.

That they didn't get picked up. It's Lucy Boynton. And has it felt like we were in the past? No. So that's part of what the twist is. We were in the past. We think that we're in the same timeline, but it's actually nine years later. It's nine years later.

And Emma Roberts looks at the picture and she's like, I have to go to the bathroom. And she gets up and she runs into the bathroom and she runs into the stall and she puts her hand over her mouth and she's like i have to go to the bathroom and she gets up and she runs into the bathroom and she runs into the stall and she like puts her hand over her mouth and she starts laughing and she starts laughing what oh oh oh yeah i bet i feel like i have a theory okay okay okay keep going keep going and all of a sudden she's laughing, you get a quick shot of her, of Emma Roberts strangling someone and then stealing the purse that she has.

The purse that she went through earlier when she woke up. It's not her purse. It's whoever she killed. She steals the purse and then looks at the driver's license. And it's not Emma Roberts, but it says Joan. So that's the like identity she's assumed. Got it. So Emma Roberts is bad. She's bad.

Bad. Nervous bears. Wow. Twist. It wasn't the guy. So when she goes back out to see Bill, he's speaking with a police officer. She clearly looks scared. She's like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Why is he talking to a police officer? But it's just that

they're going to get snowed in if they stay. So they need to leave that night to avoid the storm. So then we cut to Joan sitting back in the car with his wife. She's back. She's in the passenger side seat. They're just quiet per usual very awkward very tense and then the wife starts going on this whole monologue where she's like this is why mike flanagan loves it yeah that's true this is an inspiration it was an inspiration for him um a whole monologue like um did he say you looked like her? He always tells everyone they look like her. They never do. You don't look anything like her.

Okay. Well, I disagree. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. Like, did he tell you she was murdered? Did he mention that part? He never mentions that part.

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She's still alive. She walks out into the hallway. Catherine is hanging up the phone. There's a payphone in the hallway of their dorm and she's she says that she just spoke to Mr. Gordon. Okay, so I want to just say

you have to get to it if this makes it in the episode because Henley just froze. We had to take a quick pause. We looked up Osgood Perkins and Henley, he's not just technically in Legally Blonde. He is in Legally Blonde. He's like a character in Legally Blonde. Which character? He's the guy, the dorky guy in law school with her who

she like tells him that he's like getting rejected by a girl who's like why would I want to date with you? You're like not even cute. And she tells him you gave me the best sex of my life and then you didn't even call me. Anyway. That was a key character. Key character, big

moment. She was such a good person i mean what a role model you know l woods l what i fucking love legally blonde we were so lucky to get to grow up with someone like l woods and i was really a true role model for women um honestly though it holds up it really does okay okay so it so she hasn't died yet she hasn't died yet you guys um okay so she hangs up a pay phone that's she hangs up a pay phone she says she just spoke to mr gordon and he says she can't live here but she can live with him she rose is like that's weird uh but they go to eat with the nuns q nuns um the nuns are not wearing habits. They're just wearing normal clothes, which is like a little disappointing to me. And like wigs?

Fake eyebrows? I'm wondering if this is supposed to be like, what is the time period supposed to be? Because they are dressed. People are going to be like, that is so dumb. Like, it was obviously a different... Does it say anywhere in any of these descriptions the time period?

No, it doesn't. It's kind of unanchored in time. Like modern, but maybe not today. I feel like sometimes they do that intentionally in movies. It follows as well where

some things are futuristic and some things are like 80s style. The nuns are dressed like they're from the 70s. But then also I think part of what's hard, too, is that they're wearing Catholic girl uniforms the entire time. Which are just what they are. But then, you know how we've talked about this before, how actors are so modern looking? And I feel like Emma Roberts, Lucy Boynton and Kiernan Shipka are so modern looking.

I know. So it throws me off. I can't really tell. So they are having the quietest, saddest meal you've ever seen in your life with these two nuns. But they're about to, you know, say grace. And Kiernan Shipka, Catherine, she's not she's looking really pale. She's not looking good. She's looking even paler than she was looking at the beginning of the film.

Hair is kind of a mess. She's not saying grace. One of the nuns is like chastising her for it. And she tells her that she needs to say grace so she starts doing it but she started kind of laughing and the nuns are getting more upset she's trying not to laugh but you know what too bad because she stands up and she does something even better she barfs and barfs and barfs we all know it and everyone is looking pretty grossed out so they take her to the nurse's office does it seem like like a satanic barf yeah like a possessed type barf or like it's not like an exorcism going across the room barf but it's definitely not either like a normal barf either

like sort of like also yeah to like stand up and then barf is pretty's definitely not either like a normal barf either like sort of like also yeah to like stand up and then barf is pretty weird yeah have you guys ever barfed in public or like it had like an embarrassing throw up i don't situation i'm sure i have what kind of vomitors are you guys are you guys pretty um chill about it or pretty hate doing it oh i am i i secret that away as as well as possible you know what i mean like i've definitely thrown up like secretly before like being too drunk you're like a good good sneaky vomiter yeah like no one will notice no one knows but then again i'm so drunk people probably did notice and i'm just so drunk that i just like pretend like it didn't happen. Yeah.

I don't know why. Are you trying to tell us you're really obvious with barfer? No, I was just think I just was thinking that that would be really crazy to stand up and throw up at on the table. Very crazy. Yeah. Just yeah, that would be awful. I don't like thinking about that. She's in the office.

She's in the nurse's office. She's not doing well. She's looking pale, sweaty. She looks very sick. And the nuns are, like, mad at her because she's kind of being an asshole. And they are trying to, like, see if, you know, see what's going on. And one of the nuns, like, touches her face. And Catherine, like, pushes her hand away. And and she says get your hands off me cunt and the nuns are like

but before they can really react like right at that moment the phone rings in the other room and um the nuns go to answer it they're just two of them by the way there's two of them hold on there's a flock of them we have to go all answer the phone together we answer it on speakerphone and all say hello at the same time hello hello nunnery you have the nuns um then we see a shot of them answering the phone in the distance in the other room they're looking shocked as hell and what you can tell is that they're getting the call that katherine's parents are dead like that's just what you know because they're looking at her

they're looking like shocked they don't know what to do rose goes into the room to be like what's going on and she's already said that her parents are dead right well she said it was like it's such a weird way where it was like how do you know that and are are you serious making a joke okay yeah clearly not yep but she and also remember the first thing we have is her dreaming, her having that dream of like, it seems like her parents have died. Like in that dream, her like seeing the car being exploded and her saying, mommy, it feels like pretty ominous. So Rose goes in to be like, what's going on? And the nuns are like like go shovel the walkway just shovel it till you can see the grass

till you can see the ground and Rose is like what the fuck why and they're like just go do it just go do it just don't ask questions so Rose goes out she's shoveling and shoveling and shoveling and

then mark your bingo cards because she hears, you guessed it, a record player. Needle scratch record player. It's coming from the house where she just was, where the nurse's office is like in an old house and it's where the nuns maybe live or something. She goes and she knocks on the door uh she's like what's with this music that's blasting from here and she can't get in the door is locked she's like trying the doorknob no one's answering she can't get in um the police and a detective arrive and they we see an image of them like also trying to get into the house they can't and they go they kind of like walk around the house they go through the back and then there's

a really slow 360 shot of the inside of the house it's empty until you kind of finally reach a doorway where there's blood splattered all over the door. And we see the policeman walk through the back of the house and stop and look down on the ground and just cover his mouth, shocked. And is this the house that we think that Catherine and the nuns were in? Yes. Okay. Yes.

So then we cut back to a few, like two days ago or a day ago or whatever it was. And we're back with Catherine and we start over kind of with her. So, so with Rose and with Jones, we each got like title cards for them. We each got like title cards for them where it was like Joan and then Rose. And we haven't gotten that for Catherine. So we go back to her waking up and we get a title card and it just says Cat. And we kind of watch everything that we already saw her go through. We watch her marking off her calendar. We watch her, you know, finding out about the recital, blah, blah, blah. And then we get the only thing that's different, really, is that she has a phone call. We see her have a phone call in that creepy payphone in the hallway.

And it's all staticky. And she can't hear anything. And she's going, Daddy, Daddy, are you there? And you just hear this deep distorted voice on the other hand on the other end and he tells her to um he's like yes i'm here like kill the cunts kill the cunts oh my god and then she just hangs up the phone and she looks kind of shocked and the thing that's like really crazy about kiernan ship because performance throughout all this is you can't tell like where is it just her and where is it her like kind of being possessed possessed like you just

can't tell like it's she just kind of plays it the same way the entire time or she's a bad actor because i mean probably she's a bad actor but you know this movie it's a little interesting i don't know the line is that hard to tell but um uh then you know we continue to see shots of kathleen throughout the day the main thing to know is that this boarding school is sad as hell i mean she just looks so sad the entire time. And she does her recital. She listens to you hear her listening to Rose tell her she can't take care of her, blah, blah, blah. Rose going off

on her date. So Rose was a cunt. Yeah, Rose, such a cunt. The nuns were cunts too. Nuns are also cunts. You gotta kill the cunts. Then you see after Rose goes on her date, the phone rings again and Catherine goes and picks it up. And it's a creepy, distorted voice saying, you can stay with me.

And then we cut to a scene of the nuns on the ground back to the day where Catherine threw up everywhere. And they're on the ground. There's blood everywhere. They're bleeding out. One of them is like they're on the ground there's blood everywhere they're bleeding out one of them is like dragging herself across the ground the other one is like like spasming on the ground and Catherine is running around like barefoot um holding a knife and she just like comes back and gets over one of them and just stabs them. And we see all of it. Like this is where it becomes really a horror movie.

Like the stabbing, they don't hold back. It's a lot of stabbing. Okay. And it's not fun. And you cut to Rose waking up. I guess it's the next day. I don't understand the time period now. Rose just wakes up in bed.

Maybe she's taking a nap after shoveling all that snow. And she's looking in the mirror. She's thinking about the baby that's maybe in her belly. She goes to the bathroom. And then she gets her period and she's like oh my god thank god thank god thank god i'm not pregnant but her moment of relief ends really quickly because she hears the door open and she's terrified of katherine at this point like she's so scared of her she hears the door open did she see the nuns die i was gonna say what did she witness

that no she didn't witness any of that no no, no, no. She's just like, she's just seen Catherine act like fucking crazy. Also, when she said, like, get your hands off me, cunt. It was like, what the fuck? Like, it was really unusual behavior. She's unpredictable. And that's scary. Okay. That is scary.

A little scary. So she's like, Catherine. and then she hears the door open and close again and the doors are terrible in this movie the doors are squeaking everything's silent squeaking squeaking then she goes out of the bathroom cue a long walk dot walk long walk down a dark hallway opening and closing a lot of squeaky ass doors. She gets to like the front doorway and she opens it. She looks down. She sees something covered in blood at the bottom of the staircase below her.

And she's shocked. I don't know. I don't know exactly what this is. Honestly, I have some guesses. But she turns around. She's scared. She shuts the door. She starts like running back to her room. And just as she's like starts going back up the hallway,

Catherine turns the corner with a knife and just stabs the shit out of her. Just stabs her over and over and over again. Again, no holding back. We see everything. And she dies pretty slowly. Have is reminding me of have

you seen that episode of extras where patrick stewart like writes the script of of having a superpower where you can make someone naked i can't or something like it's such a random thing to bring up. But basically, Patrick Stewart is explaining to Ricky Gervais how his script is like, your superpower is that you can like, nod your head or something, and it'll make the woman you're talking to be naked. And he's very clear that each time it happens, he's like, and you see everything. That's what I'm reminded of.

That's what I'm mimicking right now. Is that episode exactly that's so funny okay but all right here's the grossest part though all right you're not even just buckle up so she stops her she dies very slowly you see like the life go out of her and honestly part of me was like is she faking it like no no she's dead she's dead and you know for sure because then kieran and shipka like straddles her and just like grabs her hair she's on her stomach she grabs her hair and just slowly lifts her head up and then takes her like grabs her, no. And then you cut away. And, man, that was really gross.

I did not like it. It was very, very gruesome. But in the big scheme of things, like, it's fine. You know, you can do it. In the grand scheme of things, it's fine. So the implication is that she was about to saw her head off, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. So the police are searching the premises. One of them goes down into the basement, goes down into the boiler room. They see Catherine. She's kneeling in the boiler room. And there are three heads next to her. Oh boy.

The dated heads. And... The cunts. The policeman is this... Yeah, cunts. He's just this young guy who's fucking scared as hell. Yeah. And he's freaking out and keeps being like, drop the knife, because she's holding a knife.

He's like, drop the knife, drop the knife, drop the knife. And you can see her hearing him. And to her, his voice is all distorted and fucked up and kind of sounds like the voice she was hearing on the phone. And she puts her hands above her head. She doesn't drop the knife. She puts her hands above the head. She doesn't drop the knife. She puts her hands above the head and she screams, Hail Satan. And starts like screaming. And at that moment, he shoots her in the shoulder.

And it's the same shot from Emma Roberts in the beginning. So now we're back in the car you think they ever would have seen a picture of the person who killed their daughter probably this is the central issue with this film is that yes they look alike but like like karen and shipka and emma roberts like don't look that a lot you know what i mean like it's like i know why they have to do it because otherwise there's no twist. But it's kind of like the twist is a little bit diminished because it's like nine years later, you don't look like a completely

different person. Anyway, so, yes. Emma Roberts is Catherine. And now we're back in the car. And Bill and his wife are driving. It's like the most fun road trip you've ever been on. And the wife is saying, you don't tell people, you don't tell people she was murdered, do you?

You don't tell people that they had to do a blood test to make sure that her head matched her body. And then Emma Roberts is like, I'm going to be sick. Pull over the car. Like, I'm going to be sick. And the wife clearly doesn't want to pull over because it's right at the school. And she doesn't want to go there. And but, you know, she keeps saying she's going to throw up. So Bill pulls over.

Second, he pulls over. She just stabs the shit out of them. She just kills them both. She cuts his throat and she stabs the wife a bunch. And then she just throws up everywhere in the car. Oh, my God. And then she and then she cuts their heads off. Oh, really?

Has she? Oh, really? Has she? Oh, okay. Do we think she's like been possessed this whole time? Well, let's talk about that at the end. Okay, okay. Oh, we're not at the end yet. Okay. We're almost at the end.

So then she puts the heads in the suitcase. And at this point in my notes, I just write, what the hell is this movie? Like, what's happening? And she's covered in blood. And there's a long extended shot of her, like, cleaning the blood off of her with a napkin. And then she puts the makeup on. Just one napkin. God, a napkin can do a lot.

You know, you always have those stray napkins in your car. Like, that's what you need them for is when you have covered in blood for this reason. So then we get a shot of Kiernan Shipka back nine years ago. She's been, you know, restrained. She's in the hospital. Father Brian comes to see her. This is the shot we also saw of him, like, hovering over her from earlier. And he's like, Catherine?

Catherine? And her face is so muted. And then she kind of looks at him. And he goes, there you are. And he says, you're not wanted here. You will go from here. And he starts doing like an exorcism that's happening and then Emma Roberts breaking into Bramford, which is now abandoned. Clearly this murder rampage that happened. People didn't want to go back to school there. So it's all shut down. Everything's boarded up, but she breaks in and we're cutting between this and the exorcism. Father Brian is lining up all of his cute little exorcism accessories.

I mean, this would be like a fun ASMR to do, do you know opening up your holy water spritzing it putting your little rosary beads on the table there's so much going on um and he's you know throwing the holy water on her and saying all this shit she's like rising out of the hospital bed out of her restraints and she sees a figure in the distance kieran shipka sees something you see or see something and she like starts kind of crying and she says please don't go don't go and you see an image of in the distance of this like furry dark creature with some long ass horns. And then it's gone. And then it cuts back to Emma in the boiler room.

She's her hands are covered in blood. She's the boiler room is there's obviously no fire in it. She's trying to light it. It won't light. She has the heads with her. They're next to her. It won't light. It won't light. Like she's like trying to light it. It won't light. She has the heads with her. They're next to her. It won't light. It won't light. She's trying to make it work. It's not working. And then she walks back out onto the street. You just see her walk back out to where the car is.

And she just starts hysterically crying, like the most anguished cries you've ever heard, into her hands. She's covering her face with blood that was left on her hands just screaming screaming and roll credits and then that's the end wow okay so she wanted her little goat friend back i think so yeah and so she cut those heads so she could get her goat friend back i think that's those heads so she could get her goat friend back. I think that's it. I think she missed her goat friend. Missed being possessed?

But she's still kind of possessed because that's a pretty insane thing to do. And also, when did she get possessed? I don't know. But do you guys feel uplifted and happy now? Do you feel good? get possessed i don't know interesting but do you guys feel like uplifted and happy now i mean it sounds good i liked it i liked it too and all three of them look very similar not the same not enough to be the same person who does look i feel like enough the same is mckenna grace

and kiernan shipka i feel like yeah that works to me as being the same person. Okay, wait, that reminds me, Sammy, remember how you were worried that McKenna Grace is overworked? She is. She definitely is. Okay. So she did a TikTok recently of her in the hospital, saying, basically being like, don't ask.

She's like hospitalized from exhaustion. I think so. Well, this happened like a don't ask. She's like hospitalized from exhaustion. I think so. Well, this happened like a few weeks ago. Also, pretty crazy to do a TikTok and then be like, don't ask. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean. I'm here.

Don't ask me about it. I mean, I don't remember exactly what it was, but that was the gist. I thought of you. I should have sent it to you. What was I thinking? Who were you thinking? I was thinking a bad friend. And I don't know whether she's addressed it since then. I feel like it was like a few weeks ago.

Yeah, I'm worried. I'm worried about her. I'm worried about her. I hope that she recovers quickly and decides to only, I don't know, she's 16, man. That's so young. And she's been in so many things. It's just crazy to that children work. It's just not right.

It's absolutely not right. She's been in 70 things. That's fucking nuts. And she's also like has a music career as well. She's recording an album. It's just not right. She needs rest.

And she needs to hang out with her friends. She needs rest. I hope she gets it. I'm glad she wasn't in this movie because she needs a break. One movie she wasn't in. Just one. Wow, Henley, that was a scary one that you watched. Did you feel scared afterwards going to bed?

No, no, not at all. This didn't really scare me. It wasn't scary to me. You're not scared of demons or the devil or... No, I'm not. I'm really not. I think part of... I think what would have been a lot scarier would have seen Catherine

change. Like if she had been more of a normal girl and then something happened and she changed, that would have been really scary to me. But instead, she's just kind of like casually maybe possessed the whole time. Like you don't see any difference. The thing that always scares me the most is when the expectations are so different than what ends up happening like

when things are ruined that's the worst yeah and when everyone things are ruined i hate when things are ruined i do i hate conflict um but because she was kind of the same character the whole time yeah and it's called black coat's daughter which was confusing because part same character the whole time yeah and it's called black coat's daughter which was confusing because part of me the whole time was like oh is the devil her dad like but also black coat black coat technically doesn't even mean i was looking this up what does it mean it's just um wait hold on oops hold on. Oops. Black coat. What does it mean? What does it mean?

It just means clergyman. Hmm. Well, I don't know then. I don't know what to do with that. I don't know. It's not, it doesn't like mean devil or anything. I looked it up and everything I looked up was just about this movie when I tried to look up Black Coat and Devil. So, it's pretty, I mean, the movie itself is

good. And I did honestly like enjoy watching it. It's very atmospheric. It's very moody. Yeah. If you want like just like a February dark winter sad movie movie and it's, you know, an hour and a half quick. I think the main flaw is just that there's such little character development or such little like emotional weight behind any of the characters besides maybe a little bit Lucy Boynton a little bit, but you just don't know anything about any of them. Yeah, that is something that I like from right from the beginning, when you're just thrown into people's lives with no backstory

and kind of a little present story. Or even like anything for them to react to besides just like a couple of events like right you just had a few more things happen to the person so you could see a little bit more of their personality or a little bit more of who they are like yeah even if it's small like a small

conversation um but i do like so far i do like an atmospheric film. I feel like Watcher was kind of like that, where it's just a really simple premise that's basically just all atmosphere and good acting. It sounds like this one maybe had less good acting, but still some. less good acting, but still some. I think the acting's perfectly fine for what it is. I mean, I would love for you to watch it and tell me what you think. Definitely doesn't shed boarding school in the most positive light. Yeah, you went to boarding

school, right, Henley? Yeah, I did and it was a very positive experience. What if I was like, it was just like this, but I loved it. I don't know what they were thinking. No, it was just like this but i loved it i don't know what they were thinking no it was nothing like this but i i think i maybe had an unusual experience at boarding school or it was actually very positive most people i feel like have negative experiences but it's really normal to do that on the east coast also people who are from not the east coast are like

you went to boarding school what the hell like did you like drop out or get kicked out? But no, it's, it was pretty normal where I grew up anyway. So that's this movie. Thanks for listening. I just like, love you guys.

And just don't, if you get possessed by the devil, just like, give me a heads up, you know, we'll just don't be a cunt. I won't be a cunt to you. You won't be a cunt to me.

And then we'll all be fine. We'll just don't be a cunt. I won't be a cunt to you. You won't be a cunt to me. And then we'll all be fine. We'll all be fine. It's that simple, really. There's essentially no voices in this besides the distorted devil voice on the other side of the phone. Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure it ends with that too. Deedle deedle. Um, but I do. From all of us here

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