Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE BLACKWELL GHOST with Roz Hernandez

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

One very ordinary-seeming house, two ghost-hunters and several hours of spooky content, we're recapping THE BLACKWELL GHOST with paranormal expert and comedian, Roz Hernandez (Ghosted)! Don't worry, this isn't a documentary...or is it? Turner Clay, reveal yourself! Trailer Recap begins @ 25:11 Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, a horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch themselves. I'm Henley, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we've got a spooky one today. But before we get into it, Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? So many, so many scary things have been happening to me constantly. But the main thing

that I want to talk about is the fact that Tim and I recently moved to a new town in Connecticut. recently moved to a new town in Connecticut. Where some spooky stuff happens. And never thought, never in a million years, thought that I would live in a suburban town. We moved here from New York and I just feel in a constant state of culture shock everywhere I go, everything I'm doing. I'm also meeting a lot of new people because that's kind of the nature of Tim's job is we're meeting a lot of new people. And so that means that, you know, today we went to the farmer's market. Tim knew like five people there already by name. Damn. And so people are like saying hi to us we're

greeting people in the line job by the way priest he's a priest he's a priest it's just so crazy it really is like a horror movie setup like a a priest and moving to a new town meeting all the new people. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, it's already creepy without whatever you're about to say. No, it's the perfect setup to a horror movie. I really feel like we're setting ourselves up for some serious hauntings. I know they're right around the corner.

It doesn't help that I am very pregnant right now. I also, in a really genius move, decided that now is the best time to get Invisalign. So I'm super pregnant and I have Invisalign and I got to tell you my teeth, my tooth is loose. I keep thinking that in my head. I keep thinking that in my head. It's like my teeth feel like they're going to fucking fall out. That's what Invisalign, I feel like that's what it does. I hate to say I told you so, but if you remember, I've, I very much said, don't do it. I did it. And it was just to be fair, not Invisalign, which is a more trusted brand, but still when I did, uh, you know,, that's aligners, my teeth all got really loose. And so

I stopped doing it because it freaked me out too much. Yeah, it's so I'm doing Invisalign. I'm under the care of a professional who knows what he's doing. I'm not worried that anything actually bad is going to happen. It's more like I'm in a state of like, deep lack of comfort. And Henley, I also heard that pregnant women's teeth get looser. I was kind of thinking that might speed up the Invisalign process. You know what I mean? Like there's so much going on in my body already. This is my fucking nightmare. Just loose teeth dangling around in my mouth. I'm going to have a dream. I'm going to have a a teeth dream tonight I'm luckily not having teeth dreams

uh shockingly that's good I guess the scary thing is just the fact that I we are living now in a place where I'm no longer super anonymous my favorite thing in the world is to be extremely anonymous and have no one know who I am unfortunately um that's not that's not, that's just not happening. You're living in a place where people are going to remember, Oh, the girl with the loose teeth. They're going to be like, Oh, the priest's wife with the weird teeth. That's my new identity. I'm having a full fucking identity crisis. Like um and there's going to be a welcome party for us there's 150 young families that were invited that's too many too many families so many families it's so many families i'm simply not prepared i'm gonna do my best i'm gonna um

hopefully my invis line will be out by then I don't know if it's not, then I just hope that they can get to know the real me, you know, I hope that they have it in their hearts to try to like, get to know me for my personality. I don't know. I think, I think they will Henley. If, if I know anything about you, it's that you are more than your dental. I'm more than my loose teeth. You're more than your loose teeth. Sammy, thank you so much. So I'm just, I'm having, there's a lot of changes happening in my life right now. And I'm just happy that I still get to see you once a week and sometimes twice a week. And I love that. So please enough about me. Tell me about you.

Tell me about your week. Um, nothing too interesting to report, but my upstairs neighbor's house or bath tub in particular started leaking into my bathtub. Oh which has unfortunately happened to me before in apartment living sometimes it happens there's plumbing issues that you know things leak this is an old building so i told my landlord he was very stressed because you kind of don't know when a leak happens is this going to be like a small easy fix or is this like this is a big deal yeah it's time to tear down the whole building so they opened up the top like the ceiling of my shower and they were able to find the leak and i think it was like pretty manageable it wasn't best case scenario but it also wasn't worst case scenario they got it fixed within a day or two, but they haven't had time to close up my

ceiling of my shower. And so there is just a hole. Can you see into the apartment above you? No, they put a little board on it with some real slapdash screws but it's just a scary it just looks scary because you can see all the plumbing and stuff no i can't see the plumbing but it's just like it's as if there's like an attic door on my shower ceiling and i just have now every time i shower i'm just a little bit on edge being like, what's what's in. And I keep thinking every time I look up, there's going to be cockroaches like crawling out of it or like nasty bugs coming out from the bowels of the building. No, but you haven't had any cockroaches.

That's not hasn't happened. If it hasn't happened yet, it's not going to happen. Thank you. You're also leaving soon. So it's going to be all fixed by the time you're back, I'm sure. It's true. I'm going to Europe for a couple of weeks. I will come back to a fixed shower ceiling.

That is true. They are fixing it while I'm gone. Great. So that's good. But, you know, the shower is just a vulnerable place. You're naked and you don't want to be like constantly checking. there cockroaches above me that's awful that's awful but yeah you're right so far there hasn't been hopefully there won't be could be worse there could be a cockroach in there that could be the story i was reporting remember when we talked to chuck and there was a

cockroach in the shower with him yes yes so, it, that didn't happen. Thank God, but still a little scary. Um, but not terrible. Another scary thing I did this week was watch this week's movie, which is the Blackwell ghost came out in 2017, directed by Turner Clay, starring Turner Clay, directed by Turner Clay, starring Turner Clay, Sony Burnett, and Terry Ciepleski. It is streaming on Amazon Prime. And we have a guest with us today to talk about this film. She is the host of the podcast, Ghosted. It's Roz Hernandez.

Thank you for joining us, Roz. Welcome. Welcome. Oh my God. Hi. Thanks for having me. We are so happy to have you. And Roz, tell us, did anything scary happen to you this week? I mean, I am Roz Hernandez, host of Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. So there's pretty much always something scary. I think I have a different relationship with what is like spooky than other people. Because I don't know.

I'm like some things that scare people like public speaking, talking about ghosts. Like that's like what I do for a living. So that stuff doesn't. But like driving on a highway or a freeway like that scares me. Well, that'll fucking kill you. I mean, that's what we should be scared of. Yeah. And I do have to do that later today. freeway to drive to Orange County to see some amazing friends of mine are doing a screening

of a movie about this cursed kind of doll almost that they it's a documentary about a real haunted case that they worked on, which is such a scary, scary story. But I'm way more scared to go on the freeway than of like, I'm excited for the movie. I'm terrified for the freeway. But this week, in terms of spooky things, I mean, definitely had a lot of conversations here in my home about ghosts. So I guess I could count that. But I also collect vintage paranormal or occult books. And I love them. They're like my favorite, my babies.

And I got a new one. I wanted to grab it, but I'm like connected to all my equipment. It's in the other room, but I have a picture of it. It is from 1971. It's called Test Your ESP. And it has like this spooky lady on it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's a book about ESP.

And it's just a great cover. I'm all about, I judge these books by their cover for sure. Their cover and their spine. I feel like it's all we've got. How else are we supposed to judge it at a glance? A lot of these I'm not going to read. They're like very outdated and like whatever but they just look amazing like on a bookshelf all these different i have like so many weird books about ufos and poltergeists and all kinds of spooky shit

oh that's very fun and yeah speaking of so yeah, we know you like paranormal things and your podcast is about paranormal and ghosty stuff and that sort of things, but what are your feelings about horror movies, uh, in general and, and how do those two things like horror and paranormal, uh, overlap for you? And yeah, just what are your thoughts about that? Well, I absolutely love horror movies. It's funny because like, to me, the horror part of the paranormal is just like one element of it. I think it's definitely overshadowed. I think a lot of times we just think about how scary the paranormal is, which is yes, a lot of it is scary. It's the unknown. That's what we're the most scared of. But there's also things in the paranormal is, which, yes, a lot of it is scary. It's the unknown. That's what we're the most scared of.

But there's also things in the paranormal that are like, you know, I hear like stories of loved ones coming to visit. And like there's like sweet stories. There's also things that are like they concern science and religion and like just so many different things um history so I do like that side of the paranormal I love to be totally spooked and terrified but when it comes to like horror movies I saw them way too young the exorcist Carrie love them Absolutely love them. I think Carrie is like my favorite character ever. I am to the point where I go to horror movie conventions. Like I'm all into that world.

I feel like you are testing fate with these books that you're collecting because there's always a haunted book, the Necronomicon. There's always one of these books you're going to open up and accidentally unleash something. I feel like you might be into that, though, Ross. Is that part of the allure? I don't know. I definitely like to separate my home life from my work life. Sure, sure, sure. And I'm a stand-up comedian.

Like, I don't, if I have a gentleman over, I'm not going to perform a tight 10. It's just like, same thing. Like, I don't want ghosts in my home. Strict boundary there. But, you know, just as I have a security system to keep creepy humans out, I have,

I have like a spiritual security system as well. I've got everything in this home that I have been told will keep away the spookies. Ooh, any like a quick tip? Like a crystal or something? I meanuring I don't know I'm also very much a skeptic of a lot of things but I think that you have it's all personal in my opinion I

think it has to be something that you believe would work if you're a Jesus person then maybe that's what would work for you for me I have um crystals. I've got black tourmaline, which wards off bad energy, they say. And I have one of those in every corner of this home. And in my mind, it is, they're all like laser beams connecting each other. And there's no ghost mission impossibly their way in here you've got a force field protecting you i need that i just moved into a house that was built in 1861 and i'm feeling a little nervous about it just a little nervous like well there's that famous movie the haunting in connecticut Did you guys ever watch that? We have not yet.

Which is based on a real case about a family that moved into an old funeral home. Or, yeah, funeral home, I think. We're really asking for trouble there. That's a really tough one. Yeah. No, thanks. I don't want to know. I don't need to know any more

details about that okay um but ros when we sent you the list of listener requests you wrote back blackwell ghosts you were excited about it had you previously seen this movie oh yeah i love this movie actually i believe there's seven there's seven movies blackwell movies and i've seen them all in my opinion they never get bad they are always good which is so rare for that's really impressive yeah usually we go off the rails pretty quick in horror sequels but they're simple like they're very simple movies. What I think is so genius about these, they're very mysterious. And okay, the guy that created them, who allegedly is named Turner Clay, who knows? He is a genius when it comes to marketing.

He is a genius when it comes to marketing. He put these movies in the documentary section of Amazon. Now, they are found footage movies. They're horror movies. They're fake. I mean, they're not real documentaries. But people like me, a couple years ago, I was just looking around documentaries. I'm like, ooh, a ghost one I've never seen.

And I watched the trailer. I'm like, oh, this looks like a real – this looks like when you watch those ghost hunting shows, what you want to happen. Like nonstop stuff caught on camera. And so I was like, I have to watch this documentary. And I just assumed since it was in the documentary section it was a documentary so I believed it I did the what they want to happen like when Blair Witch came out and people thought that it was real like I really fell for it and then this guy started releasing sequels and he gives you the first one free and then you have to pay to rent the other ones which i think is also genius because they're so good oh yeah i am hooked and i wait for the next the

eighth one to come out i'm constantly searching when that's going to come out which i don't think has been announced or if i don't know but um yeah i think it's genius because definitely the first time I watched it, I didn't think it was fake. And I've told people many times, like, you've got to see this documentary. It's really good. And then try to have them have that experience. But I think at this point, anyone that knows about this or Googles it can find out that it's not a documentary anymore. Also, when I was Googling it the other day, one of the actors that's in it straight up, like, has it on his IMDb and like, and it didn't used to be that way. There was a time when

it was just like, this is some documentary. And it was just like, this is some documentary. Yeah. Whichever listener suggested it, wrote it as a documentary. They were like, you should cover the documentary about the Blackwell ghost, like phrased that way. So I also thought it was a documentary at first. Like, oh, this will be interesting. A little change of pace for the podcast.

We've never done a documentary before. And in watching it I was like wait a minute but it's very fun that there's like it has that yeah mystery and sense of kind of confusion about it it is fun it's a genre that's really hard to make seem real this you know found footage I guess mockumentary this one is I, it is like a found footage movie, but it's not the original concept of that, which is like, we found these tapes of people getting killed or whatever. Like, it's not that.

It's more like a documentary. But it's a hard one to pull off because the acting has to be so natural and it has to be coming from people we've never heard of like you can't have Meryl Streep be in a found footage movie because you wouldn't you would break the illusion so it has to be like unknown actors that are incredible at making things and I assume a lot of it is improvised and And I don't know. In my opinion, I think it's pretty well done. No, I think so, too. I had a good time.

And I will be continuing, I think, with the franchise. I'm curious to see where it goes, especially hearing that they don't get bad. And I was looking a bit online and on Reddit, and people agree. People, like, really love. Well, he goes to, he does different cases. Right, right, right. So that's kind of cool too yeah so you said his name was turner clay but you kind of said that in a way that made me think is it is this a real person is this a pen name is this do we not know who this person is for real or what's the deal with Turner Club? I don't know. Like there's so much mystery around it.

These are just like. Interesting. Doc. Like these are movies that dropped on the Amazon documentary and just were left like just take them as. Yeah. Yeah. They're like straight up like something left in the woods, like an old VHS tape or something

like they're. cool. The modern day version of that. And it's like, we don't know who this guy is. I don't think he does interviews about it. He doesn't like publicize them. They're just word of mouth or I don't know. That's interesting. That's rare these days. At least this is my understanding of it. Maybe there's more to it that I don't know. Maybe he is like a big media whore. It's just not things I watch or listen to. But I'm pretty sure it's like, that's the case. like obviously we know those are not documentaries because they're such huge uh you know everyone's talking about them it's hard to retain that sense of mystery when it's like such a big thing and in media and so it's like these being lesser known makes it easier to be like under that spell of like oh is it real i don't know because not there's not a ton

of information out there about it and you have to be on like the reddit forums and stuff being like is it real is it not real but also blair witch and paranormal activity as they got more popular they started putting more cgi and trying to one-up themselves constantly. And these movies are, like, real simple. And I imagine pretty inexpensive. I mean, most of the time they're shot in one location. And he's got his little deal with, you know, get the first one free and then rent the other. I mean, I feel like he's probably got a nice little business here. Yeah.

And I think good for him. I think it's genius. Good for him. And should we's genius. Good for him. And should we take a little peek at this trailer? Just get a little taste of what we're about to recap? Yeah. Let's do it. This is a real video.

It came straight from our machine. Yet people still think it's fake. The public is always going to think it's fake, even if it's real. This is the camera. I'm about to set it. It records all night, and we got every camera in the house out here rolling on a continuous record. Stay here, all right? Stay here, all right? This is a recording. Terry, call the fire department right now.

We're sorry. The number you have reached is not in service. Please check the number or try your call again. Oh, it's so much like paranormal activity in the sense where you're like, damn it, that looks like a real house. I found footage is always what scares me the most. There is just something about it. A night vision of a room, a like static room in night vision is like scary things i'm always so on edge just waiting for whatever is about to happen oh my god i hate it i hate it i am not a fan when you watched it were you like this is a documentary or when you were watching it were you like wait this is a movie like when did you realize it never not until i was well at like after it i was googling okay okay

oh that must have been terrifying when you were watching it to think that it was an actual and even knowing that it's not a documentary i'm still scared yeah it's it's spooky. I feel like it is effective. And it's more believable because it doesn't go to some of the more ramped up crazy places that a paranormal activity would go to. Like, it feels very real and very possible. possible and these are the kinds of movies that afterwards I like need to watch a palate cleanser because I'm like well I can't go to bed now which isn't the case with

other types of horror movies for me usually I can watch something like very violent and go straight to sleep no problem but something like this I'm like okay I need to watch like an episode of something silly and fun now to cool off alright I think we should just

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So the movie starts with this man and he's like, are ghosts real? He talks about how he used to make zombie movies and he lives in Kentucky and he's like, I want to know what's the deal with these ghosts I always hear about. I don't even know if they're real or not. And then somehow he acquires this video. Or does he find it online or something? I think it's on YouTube, just like a viral video of a potential ghost. Yeah. And it's a really scary one where it's like a hotel room and there's somebody screaming inside of the hotel room.

And it's like a security cam video of like the hotel workers like going in there and there's nobody in there. But all the furniture is upside down. And then you like see like a ghost like leaving the room. It's just like a very subtle shadow too it's not like a full yeah they're not overdoing it they're not doing like there's no it's not like a sheet like right right right like it looks like it could be real yeah and it's funny because having a paranormal podcast i have people send me me TikToks and whatever all the time. And I've had people send me this video before being like, look at this one. It's crazy.

It's real. And all this stuff. And I'm like, it's from the movie The Blackwell Ghost. And then like if you look at the comments, there will be people that are like, this is actually from a movie. But it's good. It seems real for sure. Wait, when you get those videos, do they seem, a lot of them seem like they could be real or do most of them seem fake? My thing about stuff like that in the current age is like even if it was real, there's so many ways to fake things that it sucks because I don't even think if it was real, people would believe it.

Believe it. There'd be a huge population of people that don't believe it. So it's hard for even me to say if things are real or not. I mean, the way that people are able to do deep fake stuff and like, you know, you don't even have to be like there was a time when you had to like go to school for that. And now people can just like figure out how to do it on their phones. So I don't know. But anyway, he's like, I gotta find me a good ghost story

because I want to investigate on my own. So he hears about this place, this haunted house that this man lives in. Wait, I'm trying to remember, does the man contact him? I think he like puts up an ad asking for ghost videos types of things and this particular video catches his eye and again it's a very subtle thing he just there's a light that turns on and off on a security camera and a

again a little shadow that moves in the background and this this isn't a house. Like it's, it's just like some guy's living room kind of ring camera. And he like calls out specifically. He's like, this might not seem that crazy or that, you know, huge, but you've got to remember, like, I'm just a regular guy doing this, which I thought was a funny line to put in a documentary or like something that you're trying to make as a documentary of just like, I'm just a regular guy doing this. But that said, the like sentiment is similar to what you were just saying about how, when it is real, like we're not going to believe it because we're so conditioned to doubt all of these things. And well, and it brings up another thing that I think about a lot,

which is, I think most people don't think that much about ghosts and whatever. And like whenever they do, we want authorities to validate or explain or whatever. It's just human nature. I mean, if we're sick, we want to have a doctor tell us what to do or whatever. But like ghosts are not like that. Like, even the people that spend all of their life studying ghosts, they don't it's called the unknown. Like we don't know. So I actually like appreciate anytime people that are working in that space being like, I don't actually know. Like, I'm just, I'm just trying, this is just what

I experienced or whatever. Like, I don't know. We don't, there's no answers definitively. That's why I like it though. I think it's fun. Yeah, no, I agree. But yeah, so then he goes to the guy's house. Yeah. So then I, apparently he has his own plane or something. Oh yeah. Why? That part, I feel like he gets this video and goes to this guy's house to check it out but him and his wife terry fly their own personal plane there which i was very stressed watching just because i find those planes scary like a two-seater two-seater plane or whatever so scary i feel like they were actually flying it so that part I was on edge just for like a pretty normal daytime flight does the plane come back into the plot at all into the story

no I don't know just a casual little personal plane I bet Turner Clay just has that plane and was like well we should use it yeah why not well it. So, yeah, he and his wife, or the actress that plays his wife, we don't know. They live in Kentucky. And then this guy lives in Pennsylvania, right? Yep, yep. And so he flies out to the guy's house. This guy's real nice and has, like, this nice old house. And that's the guy, the guy that played that man is the one that has like

an imdb and so i i was i clicked on like his google stuff and i and i even found like whatever it is talent agency that like has his credits and stuff on there you're ruining it you're ruining it man i know he's like damn it i worked i booked this job i am letting people know that that was me i will get the imdb credit for it i'm surprised maybe there was an nda that expired or something that's a good point but uh the statute of limitations or something is up but um so he's taking them around the house and he's showing them like where all the hot spots are, where the activity happens. And he's like stuff happens constantly. He's talking about some of the history. His dad died on the staircase.

What else does he say? Well, his both of his parents died in the house. His mom died. Natural causes. He says his dad fell down the stairs and his mom had a heart attack despite being in like perfect health and so yeah and so he's like could it have been a ghost scariter then he also talks he takes him down to the basement and there's like this hole i don't know what it's like a well like it's like a sewer it's a well with like a pothole cover on it yeah yeah it's like a sewer

thing that he's like we don't open it because the lid is like super super heavy which was interesting because later on the guy does open it and doesn't seem i mean it seems heavy but it doesn't seem like impossible but anyway he, he's like, the story of this is that the woman who lived in this house a long time ago, they say was chopping up children and putting the bodies down this well.

He's like, I can't confirm or deny that. It's just the rumor that people say about this well. So. Don't love that. Then he's like's like all right nice to meet you guys bye they go back to kentucky and then he randomly calls them a couple weeks later he's like hey i'm going out of town he's probably like i booked another job that i can put on my imdb i'm a working actor after all just so you know i am a working actor and all. Just so you know, I am a working actor.

And he is like, I'm leaving. Do you want to come stay? And so they're like, okay, we have a plane. I guess we'll just go. So the guy, Turner, and his wife get in the plane. They go back. They start setting up all their equipment. By the way, this movie's only like an hour or something.

Which I love. Yes. And I looked at all of the sequels. They're all under 90 minutes. I know. And that's the other thing. It's like they leave you wanting more. They're like, this guy's a genius.

So they set up all the equipment. Not much is really happening like what the first day there's like i don't think anything he sets out this trap that's he rolls out some toilet paper into the shape of an x and puts a little black ball in the middle of it and says has says like apparently ghosts are like boys in that they will see a ball and they'll just want to play with it, which I love because it's like a perfect thing that you would just like hear and be like, I don't know, might as well try this thing that I read. Yeah, which I get.

Like if you see something out of place in your home, like a ball, like you probably would just walk by and be like, kick. Like, I don't know. I would do that. So, yeah, and then he, like, goes down to the well, and he's like, I'm going to lift up this cover. And he says it stinks so horrible, and it's, like, disgusting. He, like, tries to measure how deep it is.

Do you want to say he said it was like 60 feet or something? Yeah, he like lowers a little string down and goes down like 60 feet. That's very deep. I'm not living in a house with a 60 foot well in the basement. Tumble into? Apparently all the houses in the neighborhood have it too. What? That's even weirder.

I don't like it. I don't like it. I feel like the first thing that happens is they go to bed they're sleeping and the smoke alarm goes off right that's the first kind of scary thing that they capture yeah the first night nothing happens except for they come down in the morning and the basement door has been left open. And they're like, that's weird. Did you leave that open? No, but, and they check it and it doesn't seem like the type of door that could just blow open, but they kind of don't think too much about it, close it. And then, yeah, the next night they hear a loud bang in the middle of the night and

wakes them up. in the middle of the night and wakes them up and then the smoke alarm starts going off and a smoke a smoke filled house in night vision is even scarier than a regular house there's actually smoke everywhere from downstairs and i will say, going back, in my opinion, it's so genius that like the first night nothing happened because having done a lot of paranormal investigating and stuff, a lot of times nothing does happen. And, you know, or if it, you know, it takes a couple days a lot of times to do a good investigation. If you're just like showing up for a couple hours and it's like there's no guarantee that anything's going to happen. And to me, it just like it's all these little things that the whole time he's trying to make you trust him and make you go, OK, this is real.

Like, this is how this would go. Like, I don't know. It's just subtle little things like that that I think are brilliant. Yep. So he realizes that the burners are on in the kitchen and he turns them off and the basement door is open again yes and he's getting pretty freaked out he closes it on his way down to turn the burners off and even as he turns back around to his wife is upstairs, they're kind of shouting back and forth to each other because they're stressed.

They think it's a fire and, um, turns out there's not a fire, but you know, they're, they're worried. And even as he turns back around the corner to talk to her, the basement door has opened again. And so he's getting, he's getting nervous. Yeah. Freaked out. They're like calling the fire department, but then there's no fire. And so it's getting he's getting nervous. Yeah. Freaked out. They're like calling the fire department. But then there's no fire. And so it's just stressful. So the fire department isn't going to come because there's no fire.

No, but I think that they would in in reality. Right. Like, I feel like if you called them back to be like, cancel that. Cancel that order. Yeah. But yeah, I think they would have. They would show up for sure but um like another thing i'll say about this movie and it's kind of like old school gender norms whatever but like the straight cisgender man like he's the one that's like terrified in

this situation and she's the one that's a little bit more like what is going on like huh and he's the one that's seeing all the scary things and she's just like at this point staying up in the bedroom being like what are you talking about like come on and I don't know there's something to that just growing up in this world being like the man is scared. It's like that means it's really scary. And also it's, it's always the woman who's like seeing things or saying that things are happening. It's always the man saying it's not real. It's just in your head. And so it's nice for that to be flipped for once. Yeah.

Oh, it's all brilliant. As I break this down. Okay. So then that's like night one, basically, right? That's night two, yeah, night two. Or night two, you're right. And they were only going to stay two nights, but then they're like, okay, that was something, so we're going to stay an extra night. Yeah, because they were planning to hop back in their private plane and just going back.

So convenient to have a plane. Yes. But also the guy was gone for a while. So they were like, we can stay longer if we want. So they decide to stay. And now I'm trying to remember. He starts, he calls the library. Starts doing some research.

Oh my God, a research montage. Yes. And he gets some old microfiches. Oh my God, my favorite. I love that. Yes. And he finds out that there was a lady that did murder. Because remember, the guy originally that owns the house, the actor man, he's like, I think that some lady chopped people up in this basement, but I don't know.

That's just what people say. And he is able to confirm that, like, yes, it seemed like that woman did live in this house. Here's an old photo of this house. And, you know, that's another thing. For some weird reason, newspaper articles and fake news channel stuff in movies always look so fake to me like i swear to god anytime i see like local news blah blah it's like a template from after effects exactly i'm always like what are these graphics and stuff it is not what the news looks like and like he did a great job, in my opinion, of finding

an old picture of a lady. I don't know who she was or if it was completely fake or I don't know what. But there is some old picture of like an 1800s looking lady, old, you know, made the house look old in a picture or I don't know. I don't know what it is. Yeah, it does. You're right. It's like more it feels authentic. Totally. So now the plot is thickening. Now it's getting more interesting. But again, still not like over the top, you know, things getting thrown around and it's scary and we're seeing CGI ghosts. Like it's none of that.

It's all like pretty, pretty, like, feels real. It feels like a couple just in this house. So then, what, did we just cut to the third night? Yep, third night. Yep. A storm is coming in. And that's the big closer. And, yes, there's a storm.

Power goes out, right? Yeah. Yes, the power goes out. arm power goes out right yeah yes the power goes out and he's like damn it i have to go to the basement to change so it's pitch black he's got to go down to the basement to do the breaker box and we're seeing it in night vision but he can't see it's like the same as in silence of the lambs where well i guess not quite the same but you know where it's like yeah you're only seeing through the device but he's like running it bumping into stuff like fuck fuck i can't see shit stressful totally so he goes down to the basement terrified and he sees that his fun little ball, his little toilet paper ball, is on top of the well.

Oh, no. Oh, no, that's not, that's bad. And he's like, shit, shit, shit, shit. And then he's like trying to get out of there, but he can't see anything. And he's like running upstairs and he goes upstairs. Oh, and by the the way all the sinks are running every single sink is running in every bathroom every kitchen everything that's so scary and as soon as he turns as soon as he turns one off and moves to the next one like he turns one

off in a bathroom and then goes to the kitchen and then we'll like see that the bathroom one is back on a very yeah so he turns them all off before he goes downstairs to do the breaker then he sees the ball he's trying to get upstairs he goes upstairs and the faucets are on again and not only that the kitchen all the cabinets are open just like in six cents that's the scariest scene to me when you she walks back into the kitchen and all the cabinets are open it's horrifying horrifying i would collapse on the spot we just pass out i have goosebumps right now it's so scary so uh so then what there's just it's yeah he's hearing footsteps now in other rooms there's like sounds like someone is running and oh the light like the chandelier kind of thing is like spinning back and forth i have goosebumps i literally have goosebumps yeah and it's like

it's it's the climactic event but it's not like over the top i know i said this already but it's like all stuff that feels real like possible yeah it's not like he's being flung across the room by spirits and like being like clearly attacked by a demon or something like it all just feels within the realm of possibility. I just want to know about the filming of it. Because, you know, I'm sure there's probably so many crew members that are like hiding behind all the doors right now. And like, as you're watching it, and they're like, yes, okay, as soon as he goes that way,

like the choreography, I have to go turn on the the faucet. And then I'm going to open up these cabinets. And then you're going to open up those cabinets. And then we have to hide again before he comes back like i'm sure it's something like that um which would probably be so interesting to watch because it is all like one take which is incredible too yeah i would like to see a little making making of video turner clay if you're listening and make a behind the scenes turner clay i am such a fan. So I feel like that's pretty much how it ends. Right. And then he like makes his way back up to the bedroom to her. And then they're like,

basically runs upstairs like, fuck this. And like close shuts himself in the bedroom, which the guy that owns the house had mentioned in their first meeting that the ghosts seem like they leave the bedroom alone. He's never seen anything in there. So it's kind of safe space. Right. Which is funny because I feel like the wife never really firsthand experiences anything. Yeah, she's just in the bedroom the whole time. Because she's kind of just up there. Yep.

Yeah. Just sitting, waiting, listening, being like, oh, things don't sound like they're going well down there. Yeah, sucks to be you. So then it just, so then it ends it ends well it goes to the next morning he like wakes out the night in the in the room he's very scared and then yeah next morning he's kind of just talking to camera about what he's experienced he's sort of like giving a manifesto about what he's learned from this experience.

And then there's like a quick little thing where he plays back the footage of when he saw the ball on the well in the basement. And you see like a figure standing in the background, just like standing there. No, no. And I knew that part comes at the end. And so like when it was happening in the moment, I was like trying to watch it. But he does it so quick. He like moves the camera so fast that you can't see it like in real time.

But the fact that he went back and found that. So what was the story with the woman again? What was she doing? She chopped up some kids and put them in a well okay yeah no big deal okay all right so she was just chopping up kids and now she's haunting now she's haunting this house like yep i yeah and maybe the kids are down there and you know haunting too possibly it's hard to say maybe his parents are haunting it like who knows yeah tying it back it's the unknown there's not going to be concrete answers in this

but yeah and he kind of he says something like i feel like i just discovered leprechauns and the second i tell people they're going to think i'm crazy and so he goes through that same thing of realizing no matter what you do you'll never be able to prove that ghosts exist because even if you literally have proof no one's gonna believe it and that's kind of his thoughts and so he's oh he's like says to the audience so like i encourage you to do what i did if you're feeling skeptical go to a place that scares you ask questions to whatever is there with you in the dark and just like put yourself in these scenarios and experience proof for yourself because that's basically the only way you're ever going to believe it which is so meta because it's like I don't really believe like, do I believe this is a real movie or is this a documentary?

Like, it's very like I don't I do. He's definitely saying, like, what is real? What is not? You wouldn't even believe me if this is real. So is it real? Like, I don't know. And it feels like very apt for right now with like aliens potentially existing and like what you're saying with deep fakes and stuff and i feel like we just are living in a world where everybody like

doesn't we have reasons to doubt the reality around us and so it's just interesting that yeah we could be literally shown proof of something and we'd all be like yeah right that's like climate change right right right this movie is an allegory for climate change that's right people are like the climate scientists though they might be they're just making it up vaccines and all kinds of stuff but um yeah like the second movie and I want to say the third. I don't know. I get that. I get them all confused. But he then goes to a completely different case in a house in Florida.

And then the more recent ones are also really scary scary but different because he also starts dealing with creepy humans as well as creepy ghosts. Oh, that's interesting. It changes a lot. It's not nothing. He never goes back to the Blackwell house, though that would be a great eighth one, Turner. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, he's got this thing figured out. Are they called, like, something different?

They're all called Blackwell Goes 2, Blackwell Goes 3. Okay. And they're like $3.99 or something on Amazon. I've probably given this man at least $25, $30. Huge. And he deserves it. He does. He does.

And I've watched some of them multiple times and now i want to watch them again yeah you might as well just buy why rent just buy at this point it's worth it i'm glad to hear you say that he doesn't ramp them up and go into like a cgi territory and that they all kind of keep this vibe. I think that's really cool. No, like the most recent one, like goes a little bit off the rails in the sense that it starts to become more of like this true crimey thing. But it's still like rooted in reality, in my opinion. I don't remember there being anything that's compared to some of these other found footage movies that start turning into franchises.

Those get bonkers. And those are also playing for box office and, you know, big theaters. And they want that thrill and they're competing with all those movies. This guy's over here making his movies on a dime and pulling it off and making it so much scarier. Yeah, I am so fascinated by the production of these movies. It's hard to find information on any like when I was looking for the budget and how much it made. There was one article that estimated the budget to be around $10,000. But because you know, they're not released into theaters or anything, there's no box office numbers. So he must just have a deal with, I don't know, Amazon or something, but

I'm just curious. I want to know the financials. Oh, totally. $10,000, that is nothing. I know. And that feels like probably you could have pulled that off for $10,000. He's absolutely made that back tenfold. I would say from this one. Yeah. It's just, it's brilliant.

Oh my God. Well, I'm so excited that I know about it now. I could tell people all about this movie if it ever comes up in conversation. You have to trick them and say, we did a documentary today. You watch it check out check out this documentary on amazon lead with that that's important um yeah roz thank you so much for picking this one this was a perfect perfect one and um will you just tell our listeners about Ghosted, about where they can find you and anything else like that?

Yeah. So my podcast is called Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. And I talk to famous people and comedians and all kinds of people that I like about their paranormal experiences. And if they don't have paranormal experiences, then I'll do some research about some documented cases. We stay on topic with ghosts, aliens, psychics, poltergeists, like all that kind of stuff. And, yeah, I just recently relaunched on the Exactly Right Network, home of my favorite murder. And so I've had this whole fun relaunch recently. I've had this whole fun relaunch recently and some of my recent guests are Patton Oswalt, Busy Phillips, Georgia Hardstark and all kinds of people.

So it's every Monday wherever you get podcasts. And I'm on Instagram at Roz Hernandez for comedy clips and non-ghost related stuff. Love it. Well, great. Roz, thank you so much again. Thank you so much. This has been such a delight. Yay.

Thanks for having me. What's that behind you? Oh my gosh. I thank God it's daytime. So I'll be able to. For Sammy, it can always be a cat. And for me, it can just be this sad, sad, fluorescently lit cork board. Well, and you know, there's actually a light outside of my apartment that flickers at nighttime.

And I, it's like every night it happens. I'm like, why haven't I told my landlord about this yet? I really should be talking to my landlord more often about some of this stuff. It scares me every single time. So thank God it's daytime. The flickering light is not happening right now. But everybody, stay safe out there. Stay safe. Stay spooky. And from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch, goodbye. Goodbye.

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