Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT

Episode Date: April 15, 2020

Three student filmmakers, two handheld cameras, and one elusive witch - we're recapping The Blair Witch Project! Join us as we recap this found-footage horror film about how scary it is to trust the person holding the map. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley. I'm too scared normally, but this week I watched the goddang movie. Oh, fucking spoiler alert. Yeah, I really spoiled shit out of this podcast. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies. There we are. Just this week

affirmed for me, you guys, I do not like watching them. I just don't like it. I had the opposite experience. You liked it. She likes it. She loves it. I loved it. Well, how about, what were our weeks like? We don't need to ask if anything scary happened because everything scary is happening always.

But aside from that, how are we doing? Pretty fucking scary week. Not a great week. Not a great week. But just to add to everyone's anxiety, I would like to put forth the theory. I would love for listeners to write in if they have any thoughts. Write in, please. But this week, I don't know if you guys remember, but last week, Tim, my fiance, got stung by a bee and it was horrible. This week, my mom got stung by a

wasp. And I don't know if people who are really closely listening remember Emily's stories about the bees. I did have bees. Coming in and out of the house, like left and right. Lots of bees. I'm just wondering if bees are responsible for all of this. Interesting. What a conspiracy. They've been under attack for too long.

And they thought, you know what? Fuck it. We're going gonna attack the humans bees were being killed off by humans and they were like um we're not taking this anymore we're gonna take a stand and um they've fought back i think pretty diligently and fairly and attacking only your loved ones if anyone has similar bee stories let let us know. Listeners, if you've been stung by a wasp or bee lately, let us know. And particularly if you're

directly related to Henley, that would be helpful for us to know. Not just you, your loved ones too. Your loved ones too. Give us a six degrees of separation from Henley when you tell us please, because we need to know.

Okay, what about you guys? What happened to you this week? I got something in the mail, like a tax form that informed me that I owe tax on a $16,500 nuclear reactor. What? What? No. Yeah, no, I'm just as confused as you guys. This is like when Condoleezza Rice emailed me.

Is that who was? No, Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice. God, I wish Condoleezza Rice had emailed you. Oh, I wish it was Condoleezza. This is similar. It's definitely strange and a mistake for sure. But it actually is somewhat grounded in my reality because it's from Japan.

And it was during a project where we were working on something for airplanes. So I think it is something to do with that. I think they might have sent an airplane part to my boss and maybe think that they sent it to me. But I don't know how to fucking like deal with this. Why would your boss have purchased a nuclear reactor to begin with? Who's your boss? I have a lot of questions. i have many of my own many of my own does it literally say nuclear reactor in the letter it does this is this is not real this

is a scam it says nuclear reactor valued at 16 500 which seems honestly pretty low for a nuclear reactor. I wouldn't know. What's the going rate? I don't know. It sounds affordable. Is that affordable? Yeah. So I'll just have some.

Luckily, tax day has been pushed. So I have some time to figure it out. I hope no one from the North Korean government's listening to this right now. If they find out that nuclear reactors are going for 16K. They are. Our main fan base is the North Korean government. Yeah, it's about 25% of our listener bases in North Korea. I get the stats.

Specifically within the government. We'll post that demographic later. What about you, Emily? How's Eben? You know, I did get nervous. I wasn't hearing him as much. He's gotten quieter, but he's definitely still kicking. But he has gotten quieter and I was concerned.

But I think he's still hanging on. So, you know, we're good. We've gotten into a groove. Yeah, good, good, good, good. A sort of scary, but not really. I'm just going to talk about it because this is my podcast. Is I did a past lives spiritual reading yesterday. Whoa.

Yeah. I had bought I had purchased it months in advance for my upcoming birthday. I was like, that'll be fun. I'll do that. And then it just ended up happening during this this time so i had a zoom call yesterday past lives reading and it was fascinating wow fascinating was it just you and one other person doing the reading it was just me and the reader yeah and i sat with her and she was like okay i'm gonna start it off what what and she already was like okay yeah i hear you

like my my My team was like trying to give her messages about me because everybody has a team of people who have been with your soul throughout your lifetime that continue to guide you and be there for you is essentially the whole deal

about it. And I won't go into all of it. I got to know at least one of those past lives. You, my dearest friends, I will tell. I will tell at another time. But for the listeners, sorry, you're not my dearest friends. Oh my god.

You're close and I love you. She's only talking to the North Korean government right now. I'm specifically talking to the North. Hey, North Korean government officials, you're not my closest friends. No, you can't know about her past lives. Fuck you. The most recent past life.

I'll tell you my two past lives. My most recent past life is I was a puppeteer in France during World War II. Oh, my God. I can see it. So I put on puppet shows for the children to distract them from the horrors of World War II. Oh, my God. I can see it. So I put on puppet shows for the children to distract them from the horrors of World War II. Oh my God. I can see it.

And then before that, I was, as she said, a rebellious nun in Spain in the 1400s. I was a little rebellious nun and I broke out of the convent. So and then there was, you know, all sorts of other little fun tidbits. It was fascinating. It was a fascinating experience. I want to do this. This makes me believe in it because no two things have ever sounded exactly more like your past lives.

I feel like. Yeah, it was real. I'm sold. The journey that my soul has taken up until this point to reach me now. I was like, yeah, that sounds right. That sounds like what my soul has taken up until this point to reach me now I was like yeah that sounds right that sounds like what my soul has been up to you would be a really good puppeteer thank you so much and a good

rebellious nun I did immediately I do feel like a rebellious nun in a way in a way I did look up puppet making after our after our call and it looks really hard so I don't know I don't know but I did it up puppet making after our call and it looks really hard. So I don't know. I don't know. But I did it in a past life.

So I can only think being John Malkovich. Have you seen that? You should watch it. And maybe it'll bring up some memories. He is a puppeteer in it. John Cusack's character. Right. Right.

Yes, yes, yes. John Cusack. Cusack. Yeah. Cusack. So I'll be ruminating on my past lives and my spiritual guides for a little while here now. So that's me. That's what's up with me.

I love it. Well, another, I don't know, sounds witchy, I guess. I'm trying to think of a transition here. Trying to think of a transition here. My rebellious nun did break out of the convent and seemingly become some sort of like pagan leader. So witchy. So that's why this week's movie. That's why.

That's exactly why. We planned it exactly because of this. But this week we're doing the Blair Witch Project. Oh, I'm so excited. It came out in 1999. Written and directed by Daniel Merrick and Eduardo Sanchez.

Starring Heather Donahue, Michael C. Williams, and Joshua Leonard. And on Amazon it says Michael K. Williams. This is is stupid but Michael Kenneth Williams is the name of the actor who plays Omar in The Wire and so I like turned it on so excited that Omar from The Wire was in this movie and then I was really disappointed it's not Michael C Williams um but yeah Henley and I both watched it separately from the safety of our own homes.

I can't believe it. I can't believe it, Henley. Henley watched it just hours ago. I watched it, yeah, during the daytime. Couldn't watch it at night. So glad I didn't watch it at night. Thank God. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know what to say about it except that I hated it. I hated every second of it. I hated it. I had never seen it. Henley, you've actually seen it before, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I have read so much about it that I was like, I might as well watch it because I feel like I know a lot about it already. It was filmed in Maryland, where I'm from, originally. And so I think when it came out, I was like nine or whatever.

And I think I was like very obsessed with knowing whether it was real or not. So I feel like I've read a lot about it and know a lot about it. Yeah, I guess we were pretty young when it came out. I didn't think about that. Yeah, 99 is early. I would have been 10.

I would have been a mere 8. So you probably didn't see it in theaters, did you, Emily? No, certainly not. Certainly not. But I have older siblings and they saw it. And I remember... Ienna saw it in theaters that's crazy thought it was real i mean of course you did they they went to such great lengths to make to make it was real real yeah and it was before everything all information was just readily

available on the internet and you could just google it and find out um was this the first found footage film no but it was kind of the one that that made them popular i read in this article in this new york times article i don't know whether you read the same one sammy that the film historians credit root root rugero diodatos 1980s thriller cannibal Holocaust. Cannibal Holocaust, baby. Yes. Cannibal Holocaust? So there's a movie called Cannibal Holocaust. I don't know if I want to watch that. That sounds horrible. I think I do. But I think it's quite a torture porny, as you might be able to glean from the title.

Cannibal Holocaust? No, not Cannibal Holocaust. No. But yeah, Blair Witch was the first one to make it more popular. Yeah. It just, yeah, the timing was right. Oh, yeah. This is what I was saying last night is that if I could time travel, it's like number one,

kill Hitler. Number two, make the first found footage horror film. Because it's such a fucking like, they made so much money. I mean, so like they made so much money i mean so they made so much money this movie cost 60 000 to make and it's insane it made 248 million it's so much money i will i would like to say that one thing about this movie that i think is true is that it's definitely scarier if part of you thinks it's real and knowing it's fake makes it honestly a little boring to watch just gonna say interesting i was pretty scared i had a good time watching it and i have some thoughts that i'll share with you at the end i think part

of me was as a defense mechanism was like fuck this this is This is stupid. This is fake. This is fake shit. Look at these actors running through the woods. Fucking actors. Fake. Fake. Don't be scared. Don't be scared. Hi, everybody. It is cocktail hour, and this week's cocktail is an Amaretto Sour. Oh my god,

that rhymed. This cocktail doesn't really have anything to do with the Blair Witch, but it is Emily's birthday this week, and Emily and I have really been loving amaretto sours lately, so I thought we would share the recipe with you. To make this cocktail, you will need two ounces of Disaronno amaretto liqueur, one ounce of fresh squeezed lemon juice, a dash of Angostura bitters,

and a half an ounce of fresh squeezed lemon juice, a dash of Angostura bitters, and a half an ounce of egg white. You will shake all ingredients with ice and strain back into the shaker and dry shake without ice and then fine strain into an ice filled glass and garnish with a lemon slice and a Luxardo maraschino cherry. Ooh this drink is so good. I highly recommend it. If you have Disaronno, great. If not, add it to your list.

The next time you can safely go to the store. Cheers. This is one of the first horror movies to like enter my awareness, I feel like. This movie was a big deal. It was a big deal and I was young and like remember being so scared by the idea of this movie was a big deal it was a big deal and i was um young and and like remember being so scared by the idea of this movie and it has remained i think we're like i wanted to hear

about this movie because it's like stands in my mind is such a huge deal of a movie um yeah i'm curious what it will be like when i actually hear what happens. But well, it's like a seminal like idea of a horror movie for me. It was one of the first times that, yeah, something in popular culture went to great lengths to create like an entire world that fans could access if they really wanted to. So like they put together a website that had a ton of like fake archival information and like newspaper articles. And they even I didn't realize they did this. But a week before the wide release of the movie, they released a separate fake documentary about Blair Witch on the sci fi channel that did not say that it was fiction. They made it sound like it was a documentary so people that's cool what a good marketing campaign the marketing for this is

what made it make so much money because they just they literally everywhere said it's a true story on imdb they listed the actors as deceased dead they said, presumed dead. Missing, presumed dead. Like everything was just played as if it was 100% real. So were the actors like not allowed to go to the premiere? I think they were not allowed to go to the premiere. It premiered at Sunday. And they weren't allowed to work again

for like a year. Oh my god. Can you imagine you get a lead in a huge movie and you have to pretend that you're dead um the families of the the three main actors got like sympathy cards from family friends being like i'm so sorry that your children have died like everyone and that is now a major motion picture um a trivia that is on imdb we love love the IMDb trivia, don't we? That's what we go to.

Some behind the scenes for the listeners. We use IMDb trivia. Here's a trivia that really makes me laugh. Okay. One of the video cameras used by the actors was bought at Circuit City. After filming was completed, the producers returned the camera for a refund, making their budget money go even further. Hell yeah. So they got like a hundred bucks back on a Circuit City video camera, which also like you assholes who used it to shoot a movie.

Like, don't return it. Remember Circuit City? Hardly. I was the best buy gal. I don't really have any other trivia. Another one is that it was only a what was your joke I missed it me and odd

non it was a good one I saw her really laughing to her own joke and I was like I think I gotta I think I gotta rewind I really laughed at my own joke about a murderer. Yeah, well, it was a good one.

We won't know. Thank you. He definitely did it. Really? I don't think so. I don't know that I know. I feel pretty confident he did. Carol Baskin. I think she's innocent. I'm all about the unpopular takes, guys.

Look at this underdog. Theoreticist. Theoreticist? I think it was her boyfriend who worked at that eyeglass store. It was definitely that guy who killed her. Let's spend the entirety of this episode unpacking Serial. I don't know whatial. I disagree. I haven't watched any or listened

to any of the follow-up stuff, so I don't know. You gotta read that follow-up interview with Jay. Yeah, Jay was interviewed later. That's what I'm gonna do after we're done recording. I gotta go, actually. I gotta go. I gotta go, you guys. I'm deeply attached to

Adnan's guilt or innocence, and I've gotta go I gotta go you guys I'm deeply attached to Adnan's guilt or innocence And I gotta go This has gotten to be too much for me emotionally Oh no Okay no I just have a few more interviews to squeeze in here Squeeze them in Is that The script that they wrote

Was only 35 pages long Because they wanted ample room for improvisation. That's actually all I have. Just the making of the movie is interesting because some of this stuff was not communicated to the actors. Like they actually also thought that the Blair Witch was like a real legend. It's all made up. So they thought it was real and they thought when they were interviewing the townspeople that they were interviewing actual townspeople

but the townspeople were also actors. So just kind of a fun you know some of the time the actors also are having real reactions. They also were the ones who actually I I mean, it's found footage. This makes sense.

But they were the actors were the ones who are actually holding the cameras. Yeah. I really don't know anything about this movie other than it's found footage and it's there in the woods. That's pretty much it. That's all you need to know. We're going to tell you the rest. We're going to fill in the blanks for you. Should we watch that trailer? Let's watch the trailer. Let's all you need to know. We're going to tell you the rest. We're going to fill in the blanks for you.

Should we watch that trailer? Let's watch the trailer. Yeah, let's watch it. Fuck yeah. This is my home, which I am leaving the comforts of for the weekend to explore the Blair Witch. I can see you. I'm really excited about this. Thank you for the opportunity.

I'm very glad. This area's been haunted by that old woman for years. I don't know why you have to have every conversation on video. Because we're making a documentary. Not about us getting lost. We're making a documentary about a witch. We're lost. Admit that first.

I know we're not lost. It's all over the place. But how do we know it was people? Well, even if it wasn't, I'm not going to play with that either. And it's all because of me that we're here now. Hungry. And cold. And hunted.

I just want to apologize to Mike's mom and Josh's mom and my mom. Tell me where you are, Josh! mom and Josh's mom and my mom. Tell me where you are, Josh! Let's get into talking about this goddamn movie. It's a short movie. It's like an hour twenty, right? The rough cut was two and a half hours. Thank fucking God they cut it down to an hour and a half because

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near Burkittsville, Maryland while shooting a documentary. A year later, their footage was found. Interesting. 94. This movie came out in 99? Yes. So that kind of adds to the, like, real feeling of it. It's like, oh, it, like, took us a while to the like real feeling of it it's like oh it like took us a

while to like get the story together and edit their footage like it was missing for a while also seems like the people who sent condolences cards weren't that close to the family right it's been five years you didn't know that they were alive or dead they're like oh my god i saw your daughter at the grocery store she's alive i can't believe it i didn't realize five years ago your daughter died i'm so sorry she's alive um so yeah so it starts out it's very the aesthetic is very you know lo-fi all um obviously found footage like but also low-quality 90s cameras. Like camcorders, yeah. Exactly.

One's black and white, and one is in color. Yes. And it starts out with Heather Donahue, and I guess it's... Josh. Josh. Is her friend. She's like, welcome to my home. I'm packing to leave for the weekend.

I'm going out to explore the Blair Witch. I feel like you already said, but what part of the country does this take place in? Maryland. It's in Maryland, but it's in rural Maryland. I guess they go to pick up Josh. I can't remember when, but one of Heather's first lines first lines is hey it's mr punctuality anyway that's just like a good launching pad for her tone for the first like 80 of the movie i would say um and uh so yeah so then josh and heather go they drive to pick up mike mike is leaving his parents house.

They haven't Mike and Heather at least haven't met each other before. I don't know if Mike and Josh are supposed to know each other. Yeah, I think maybe Mike and Josh know each other. And Heather's like. She's super. It's clearly her project. She's super like excited about it and really high energy. Yeah, we get like a controlling vibe from her

pretty quick. Like she likes, she's in charge. But in like a really kind of like in like a dorky like fifth grade teacher type of way. Like, come on guys, this is what we're doing. Like, ah! It's like very intense.

And they go grocery shopping to prepare for their camping trip there's some fun close-up shots of some marshmallows which i found weirdly realistic it does do a good job making it i mean because they are it's again the actors that are filming and so it is it does feel really real i think from start. Like, it just feels like three dorks with two cameras. Three dorks, two cameras. One witch. One witch.

They do their first shot, which is in a cemetery that's, I guess, right outside of Burkittsville, Maryland, where Heather does this very kind of dramatic reading on screen about like, there's this myth and no one knows and there's a surprising number of children in this cemetery. It's very like affected when she's on camera. Yeah, like, yeah, overly dramatic. And she says an unusually number, unusually high number of children died here, mostly in the 1940s. And nobody really talks about it. And then

that was their first shot, and they're really excited. They got their first shot. There's a lot of pretty silly... They all kiss and lick the slate. And in coronavirus times, I was like, oh, we can't be doing that we can't be doing that no no no never like anything again i'll never lick anything again i'll never like a thing and then they like start interviewing some townspeople and it kind of is cutting between between a few like an old man a middle-aged woman and like a clerk at a store and she's

basically just asking everyone like what have you heard about the Blair Witch and some of them are like oh yeah that that old why is it called the Blair Witch oh they say so so Burkittsville used to be called Blair the former former town. The name of the town is Blair. And then some of the younger people are like, oh, yeah, that's like what my mom used to always tell me. Like, if I don't go to bed, the Blair Witch is going to come get me like she's the boogeyman of the town. I was a little confused. There was because there are two different mythologies going around. There was one about the witch, a woman. And then there was another talking about someone named Mr. Pyre.

I think they're intertwined, Henley. I bet they are. But one thing that they said about Mr. Pyre was that he would kill two boys at a time and he would make one of them stand in the corner while he killed the other one. Oh my god. This is like a town legend? Well, what he says is Mr. Pyre

came down from his cabin in the woods and said, I'm finally done. And they didn't know what he meant and they searched his cabin and they found dead bodies of seven young boys. And they say that he would make them go in two at a time. That doesn't add up to seven for me personally. No, it doesn't.

For you personally. For me personally, a group of twos doesn't add up to seven. But you know what? Math is subjective. So let's not dwell on it. It's a little problem I had with this particular moment bumped for me um but yeah he would make one of them face a corner while he killed the other one um yikes i'll come back to why i think those are related then they they hear about a woman named mary, who as a young girl was taken and disappeared for three days and then returned.

And they said she was people say she's crazy and people, you know, didn't know what happened. That's not Mary Brown. Oh, it's not? Two different people. Wait. Uh oh. Yes. So Mary Brown, they're like Mary Brown's like the town crazy lady.

And she's the only one that's like seen the Blair Witch. But then later we come to that three-day lady. That's the fishermen that tell that story a little later. Okay. Well, they go to interview Mary Brown. Yeah. Who has seen the blair witch um okay and she's living in a trailer uh in the woods and um has kind of like a freaky homemade gate to her

house freaky it's like made out of twigs it's made out of twigs. Oh, scary. Okay, scary. Yeah, freaky. And they, she said that her and her dad would go down to the creek to go fishing. And she was like laying by the creek and felt something touching her arm. And looked up. You go. looked up. You go. She looked up and she saw a woman's

arms that was covered in hair, like horse hair. Like it was all black. Dense black hair. Like a coat of hair. And then Heather is like, you mean like fur? And she's like, yeah, kind of like fur. And then

she had like a white robe-ish thing on and then stood up and opened her robe and was covered in more hair, like head to toe covered in like horse hair is how she describes it.

What? And then she asked her what her face looked like and she said her face was just like scary looking yeah um and then they all get in the car heather and mike and josh all get in the car afterwards and they're really just like ripping on this start making fun of her and they're like oh mary brown like she said like she's a scientist she's like she's like writing a book i guess like all these things happened off camera where she like told her all her various careers because they were funny yeah it felt like a real thing that that crazy person would tell you it's true um they she said she told them she was a ballerina she was a historian and she was a ballerina she was a historian

and she was a scientist doing research for the department of energy three adjectives no one will fight you on why yes I am a ballerina and I am a historian coincidentally guys I'm also those things

as an FYI those are your the three previous past lives but before none ballerina historian department of energy scientist um so they go back to their hotel and they're like drinking some scotch and celebrating their first day of filming. They're like, ooh, a successful first day. And she kind of is like, tomorrow's going to be a lot harder because we're going to be, like, hiking a lot into the woods. So, like, let's not get too drunk. And they're supposed to be, like, in their 20s, right? I think so there it's i think they're it says they're student filmmakers so i

believe they are like in college or recently out of college maybe but yeah they're young and next day they drive out to the woods and um they come across two fishermen that they stop and interview and the fishermen say some more little town legends they're asking them the same questions what have you heard about blair witch and they're like in the 1800s a woman named robin weaver wandered into the woods went missing for three days and came back three days later on her like parents doorstep and was like mumbling about the woman whose feet never touched the ground then they keep they keep driving they're like deep into the woods and they park off on the side of the road and um uh start hiking they throw on their packs they their packs look very heavy they're enormous huge packs huge

packs it's so big really heavy packs hey man if you're really gonna hike that pack is full of stuff yeah it's got their tents it's got their clothes it's got everything it's got all their food tents clothes food water i mean a legit hiking pack is a big deal have either either of you guys done a big hiking thing no i i went backpacking a couple year year ago two years ago in a place called desolation Wilderness and it snowed and was icy the whole time. I would not ever take a trip to Desolation Wilderness. It's near Lake Tahoe. I know.

I can't believe it. It was in May and it was so cold. We like camped on literally ice. It was so cold. You couldn't make a fire. I reached a point recently in my adult life where like I like nature but I don't need to be a person who camps. I'm like I like nature but I don't need to I don't need to be a person who camps I'm like I've settled on that

every time I camp I'm certain that I'm going to die and it's not fun I don't need to do it it's not for me I reached a point in adulthood where I realized I don't have to be a woman who likes to camp it's acceptable to not to not like to camp and

wow it was such a release yeah i think i still need to get there i don't have to pretend i i'm envious because i feel like a part of my brain is still trying to convince me like you should like this and i don't i love to be comfortable i love nature both can exist i'm to get a lot of negative comments. Oh, my God. Watch our reviews just plummet. The North Korean government is going to have a field day with these comments. This American doesn't even like to camp.

I tried it and there are merits to camping for sure. But in general, that's not for me. Yeah. Agreed. Well, they'll be doing some camping Heather and Josh we're just getting to the beginning of their camping experience I can accept that for them

yeah so they're walking around they are hiking for a while and they get to a point where Heather's like here we are this is it this is it and This is it. And they make it to Coffin Rock. Not a great name. Heather does yet another

dramatic reading in front of the camera. And it's pretty horrible. She talks about how there were five men. Well, first of all, where is she reading this from? It's just like a myth, I guess. Or I think it's more just legend.

No, I think this one is actually like documented. Like research she had done before doing this film. Yeah. She says that at this rock, it's where five men were discovered who were tied to each other head to toe. Their insides had been taken out and someone came across this and it was. And there's also like runes cut into their face, like writing and cut into their face. I didn't like that. No, didn't like any of it.

Didn't like any of it didn't like any of it um people just someone discovered these bodies went back to alert people to tell them what they'd found when they returned the bodies had been removed but the stench of death was still thick in the air so that's what happened at that rock so that's their first little like historical point that they wanted to hit. Heather's all like, oh, we got Coffin Rock in the books, baby. Done and done. And then they're continuing to hike and they're trying to make their way to the cemetery, right? Or not the main cemetery that we started at, but the cemetery in the woods.

That's where Heather's leading them to. Yes. But then it starts to rain and they have to set up camp for the night. Yes. And then it cuts to pretty quickly the next morning. And I think it was Josh who says like oh I heard noises in the middle of the night like I heard an owl I heard someone cackling

and then Mike is yeah he like casually says he heard someone cackling and Michael's like if I heard someone cackling I'd shit my pants and I just I liked that line nobody's like scared yet.

No. Spirits are still up. However, on this day, there's some reference to the fact that Heather, they feel like Heather kind of got them lost the day before. But then they found the trail. She keeps saying, like, I didn't get you lost. Like, don't worry. We found the trail.

Like, and then it starts to be getting this kind of back and forth between them. We're like, they're not like has started to form so they're not really trusting her I would say no they're not the seeds of distrust have been planted however I would say that this is the fun and games portion

of the film where there's a lot of like joking around and like stupid filming happening like they have no reason to be scared yet they're lot of like joking around and like stupid filming happening. Like they have no reason to be scared yet. They're sort of like, well, it's annoying me. Like maybe got lost, but they're not freaked out. She's like about them being lost for a second. She's like, oh, well, I'll look back on this and laugh like, haha, who cares?

And then they make it to a clearing that has a few piles of rocks. Jenga style. Jenga rocks. Jenga style? Jenga style. Jenga style, baby. And then we cut to night, right? And they're like in their tent. They all sleep in one big tent. Yeah, that sounds horrible to me.

All three of them are in a tent. They're so close to each other. They're just like right next to each other. Which like I don't think is how they would have done it. a tent they're so close to each other they're just like right next to each other um which like i don't think is how they would have done it like i'm sure she would have had a separate tent she would have had her own tent because it's it's not hard to have two tents but not hard at the same time with the spooky stuff that's gonna happen i think they would have all ended up in one tent anyways i would have been scared and been like, I'm coming in your guys' tent.

Yeah. So it cuts to the middle of the night and they start hearing stuff around their tent. And we hear it too. It sounds like someone's kind of walking. It sounds like, well, just twigs are kind of breaking. Yeah. It sounds like a little, yeah, like walking branches, moving twigs. Spooky.

Spooky. Something that starts to happen is that they are encouraged, like people do start to get pissed that Heather like keeps filming or like keeps the light on or whatever that's starting to happen. But Heather is like clearly kind of obsessed with filming everything right so that's like one reason why we even have this footage i would say is because heather is kind of like really obsessed with just constantly filming everything and it becomes like a real point of contention between everyone but like she just won't stop right okay um so the

next day they wake up and they're all kind of unsettled from the noises from the night before and i think they have a little conversation cackling yeah and they have a little conversation about like is somebody following us like heather is like do you think one of your friends that maybe knew we were coming out here is like fucking with us? Or like townies? Yeah, they're like, have you seen the movie Deliverance? Like, I don't want to fuck with this. Like, someone's fucking with us.

And she also, they're also kind of lost. And she, but she she's insisting they're not lost. She keeps being like, guys, we're only two hours away from the cemetery. Or like, guys, we just need to walk this far and we'll get to the pit trail. Like, don't worry. And they basically they wanted to go to Coffin Rock and then they wanted to go to that little cemetery thing.

And so now they're trying to go back. Right. They're trying to make their way back to the car now. And she's like, we're going to go back a different way. And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why? Like, why would we go into a different part of the woods? And she's like, well, the route that we took here was to see those two things,

and then this is the most direct route back, which makes sense. But we're getting the feeling that they don't totally know where they are. Uh-huh. Okay. And now they're getting really mad that she's still filming they're like turn the camera off like let's just get home um mike starts really freaking out mike is like screaming and is pissed at her um and she has this map that she keeps referencing that does seem like a very it seems crazy that she would know where they were on this map yeah to be honest yes they don't have GPS.

I kept thinking that like, there's no way she'd fucking know. And this map is not a real like map. It's like a black and white, like, Oh my God, you guys, it gave me such PTSD flashbacks to the time I got lost in Joshua tree with a group of people that I had never met before.

I hated that. Oh my God. I hate that story. It was exactly like that. And so I know what it feels like to be lost with somebody telling you that they know where they're going and they absolutely do not know. And it's, let me tell you from personal experience, the most frustrating, frightening experience. And it's so horrible.

No, it's awful. It was, it is awful. And they also keep crossing these little rivers and they have to go on these little yes they have to like moldy balance with their big backpacks over logs over bodies over rivers like streams they're supposed to be able to get back to the car they can't get back they can't find it so they have to camp another night this is night number three yeah and then they they get in that fight before where they're supposed to be at work the next

day. Now it's like this is past their schedule now, and they were supposed to be back at the car. They're supposed to be back at the car today. The cameras are due back tomorrow. They have work tomorrow. They can't find it. To Circuit City. Best Buy. They gotta get it back to Circuit City.

Best Buy is better. Adnan's guilty. Adnan's guilty. Anyway, what's happening? So now they are staying extra time. Now this is not going according to plan anymore. Not good. And so they're like, well, we don't know where the car is.

So we're going to set up camp for another night because it's nighttime now. And up until this point, we haven't had too many witch interactions, right? Just some like maybe cackling. Oh, Emily, what an observation. Oh, no. Circle back. So this night they hear more sounds around the camp. Kind of the same branches, footsteps type of thing.

They're talking about maybe it's just deer. Maybe it could be like a family of deers. That's what I would think. That's what I would be telling myself. You better believe I'd be like, that's deer. That's probably deer. That's all that is. However, when they zip open their tent there

are three piles of rocks the next morning their tent the next morning next morning uh the same piles of rocks we saw before uh she says like what are the chances that we would because one of them mike or josh Josh's says you know maybe they were here already and she says you think she says you think we just accidentally by chance pitched the tent next to a

bunch of rocks and didn't knock any of them over they're not nobody's on good terms anymore I feel like tensions are really ramping up also they're not on nobody's on good terms anymore I feel like tensions are really ramping up also mind you not great they're running

out of food now at this point they don't have enough food for this day all those marshmallows at the beginning yeah they're on a diet of strictly marshmallows at this point not a lot of food and the real kicker is then heather realizes that the map is gone

and she's like she's like did someone take the map like who took the fucking map like someone took it and i know one of you took it josh is so pissed and josh says this is the most irresponsible thing you could have done you lost lost the fucking map. Are you joking? And she says, I know, I know, I know. And she's like really mad at herself. At some point, they say that they were, maybe this comes later, that they're going to move south. They're just going to move south until they get to a road somewhere or something.

Just walk in one direction. So basically, they have to cross two little streams and tensions are running high having to cross these little streams. And then Heather falls in, I guess, and she gets wet.

Oh, that's right. And they start, Josh and Mike, start laughing at her. Really laughing at her. That's not nice. It's the first time Mike has really laughed. Mike has not been laughing and not been the jovial sort.

And Heather comments on it and is like, Mike, this is the first time I think I've heard you laugh this whole time. But then she starts to get upset because she feels like they're laughing at her. But they're also both wet. It's been raining too. It's a much needed reprieve but it's also that they're kind of going crazy

like then it turns like kind of bad and Mike starts like really laughing like too much like really really laughing and kind of having this like weird mental breakdown laugh situation and then he gets

really amped up and starts laughing and he's like you guys want to know something you want to fucking know something so funny I want to know something so fucking funny I kicked that fucking map into the creek last night I kicked it into the creek because she didn't know what the fuck she was doing with that map

like that map did nothing for us and they're like is he kidding is he kidding both of josh and heather are and mike is the one they didn't know before this i think josh might have known him but yeah mike is the lesser known one he's not like a close friend of theirs but they're like is he fucking kidding he better be fucking kidding and then they get into like a full like physical fight Heather's like screaming at him and Josh starts like hitting him

and it gets really ramped up but then Heather I mean then they I mean it's realistic in the sense where it gets ramped up but then immediately they're like well we got like what are we gonna do we have to get back to the fucking car like we can't we can't waste time we can't spend another fucking night out here we need to find the fucking car. Like we can't we can't waste time. We can't spend another fucking night out here.

We need to find the fucking car. We need to keep moving. And so they're trying to move south. Fucking stressful. They're trying to move south. But then the sun starts going down and they have to set up camp again. And it's going to be nighttime. again. It's going to be nighttime. Yeah, it's about to be night.

But they are right before the sun goes down. They find all these little twigs that are tied together, hung up in trees. That is the Blair Witch symbol. You guys have all seen it. It's on the posters everywhere. Yes. Seen it. There's a whole fucking bunch of them, likeung up in the woods like little voodoo

looking stick dolls and they're filming them and again Heather can't stop filming and they're like Heather we gotta go we're running out of time and she's like look at this shit though this is this is important like I need to be filming. A lot of time and she's like look at this shit though this is this is important like i need to be filming a lot of tension she's annoying but i thought she was good i thought that she was well cast no she was good she's supposed to be kind of annoying um it's but um then mike starts screaming help which i found more disturbing than like the witch symbols right there's something about like

screaming help desperately when you're lost that's just like holy shit things are bad again i'm gonna circle back being lost is really fucking scary oh my god it's so scary the idea of like actually being lost in the woods which or no which is very scary one thing that she keeps saying in this moment when she says it now I think she says it again like the next couple but days but she um she's like we're in America we're in America you can't get

lost in America it's hard to get lost in America hard to get lost in America she was like we've we've taken over nature we've built over everything like we can't get lost yes we can and I was like, we've taken over nature. We've built over everything. We can't get lost. Yes, we can. And I was like, yeah. Heather, bitch, come on.

No. That's not how it works. This is America. We don't get lost in America. This is America. The eagle finds us. Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam has her back.

So it's night number four. Heather finally admits that they're lost. They're lost. And I think Josh. Thank you, Heather. We knew it. Josh says, let's not light a fire tonight. First of all, I think it's raining

it's been like raining on and off a lot of this time but the first night they couldn't light a fire because it was raining and nothing happened on the first night the second two nights they lit a fire and both times they heard noises and creepy shit happened like the rocks being outside

the tent or whatever so Josh says let's not light a fire tonight and hope that then no one will be able to find us. Okay. Fair enough. So it's just like pitch black. Yeah.

The next shot is just pitch black and they're all freaking out in the tent and they're like, what was that? Like, oh my gosh, you hear that? What was that? There's noises. A light turns on and they like get out of the tent. There's like a ton of rustling and you can kind of hear in the background very faintly like a little kid laughing

baby crying baby like scream crying baby scream crying like not good tent shakes like crazy and they all start screaming yeah they all start screaming they run, they all start screaming. They run out of the tent. They all get out of the tent. And then it's this creepy, like it's dark and then like a light just on, I guess, is it Heather that the light's on? Someone's running. Yeah, so it's whoever's running behind Heather with the camera that we're

seeing. And they're running through weeds and plants. And it's really they're running fast and it looks really plants. And it's really, they're running fast and it looks really scary. And she says, what the fuck is that? What is that?

You hear her like see something and get scared. And they eventually just drop down, right? They kind of huddle somewhere in the the woods and just someone says turn off the lights and they just huddle together in complete pitch blackness until the sun rises oh god so they wait till then the sun comes up and they like walk back to the camp um while the sun's coming up and their camp is kind of fucked up like their stuff is everywhere josh realizes his stuff has been taken out and like strewn everywhere and it's covered in this like sticky slime substance it's ky jelly oh nice of course it is. Thank God for that trivia. Thank God. And this is when they're really like, Heather, stop filming.

They're really getting angry at her. Like, stop fucking filming. And she's just going to keep filming. She doesn't care. So if I'm them right now, I'm like, I'm sleeping during the day. I'm up at night. Right? Like, you'd have to do that.

I don't know what you do. i don't know i don't know they eventually yeah they eventually stopped sleeping all together and so reminder they're running out of food running out of water they're not right because they were only planning on being out here for so many days for two days i think it was just for the weekend and so now they're on four nights so they're like on their fifth day running out of food running out of water and yeah obviously not sleeping well and they were walking south and they hit the log that they walked over two days ago so they've been walking for two days or whatever okay and it's a good no no it's very bad it's very bad they've been walking for two days or whatever. Okay. That's a good sign. No, no, no. It's very

bad. It's very bad. They've walked in one They were at two days ago. They've walked in one big circle. Oh, oh, oh. So they're not closer to where they started originally. They're like in the woods. No, from the time when they said let's just walk south, they've now returned to the beginning of when they said that.

Oh, no. And they really, they've really kind of started they said that. Oh, no. And they really kind of started to lose it. She's sobbing now. They're panicking. They're freaking out. Heather keeps saying, not the same log. Not the same log. Not the same log. Not the same log.

Oh, God. Oh, no. And then Josh starts filming Heather and making fun of her. And he's like, want to make movies now? Want to make movies now? Like being a real dude. He has the camera in her face.

He's like, here's your here's your role. You're scared. You're lost in the woods. Like no one. No one's going to come help you. No one's here to help you. And she's just crying and crying. What a douchebag.

And I read that because this is all improvised. And that was him also just being a dick to her. And she was kind of crying for real in that scene. No. Oh, my God. One of the trivias was like they had to cut out a lot of that was because it seemed like Josh and Mike were just really ganging up on her in a way that was not fun to watch. Mike were just really ganging up on her in a way that was not fun to watch.

So they cut out a lot of Josh, I think, because Josh was just a dick to Heather throughout the whole filming. And Mike is like begging them not to fight. He's like, I don't want to deal with fighting right now. Yeah, this isn't helping. And then it's night number five.

And so then they go to bed and then Mike and Heather wake up and Josh is gone uh they he's just gone and they like get out of the tent and they're like screaming for him and they're like and Heather's like we've never gone out of earshot

of one another where could he be um Josh Josh Josh and uh then there's they cut to Josh! Josh! Josh! Josh! And then they cut to you and Mike, they're loopy, and Mike is like, oh, Wicked Witch of the West.

I love that line. Wicked Witch of the East. Which one was bad? And she's like, Wicked Witch of the West is bad. So like, we'll go east. Let's go east. I thought that was a really fun line. I loved it. What a way to determine how to move forward.

So now they're going to move east. Which also, by the way, Wicked Witch of the North is the good one, which the other two are actually both bad. Spoiler for freaking Wizard Wars. So then they camp again. I don't know if I'm missing anything but they camp

again they're talking more about what they would eat they talk she talks about how she would love to drink a whole big bottle of Bordeaux which resonated with me I was like I want that too he's like what's your favorite thing to do on a Sunday and she's

like it used to be hiking she's like what's your favorite thing to do on a Sunday and she's like it used to be hiking she's like I think that might change maybe don't love that anymore no thanks so that's night number six oh god they're

in the tent and it cuts to middle of the night and they hear Josh screaming like their friend screams from a distance he's the one who wasn't there when they woke up

and it sounds like he's being hurt yeah so it sounds like he's screaming in pain um they kind of are going out a little bit with their like flashlights and stuff but not it's kind of coming from all sides

right that's the other thing with any sound that's happening at night is there's keep saying it sounds like it's coming from every direction so they can't quite follow where any of the sounds are coming from they can't pinpoint where he is so they go back in the tent. They can't sleep. They're

just awake all night long. Then they're like, in the morning, they're like, if that was Josh, he would have said where he was, or whoever it was. It sounded like Josh. Could have just been someone fucking with us. We don't know. Could be a coincidence that our friend went missing and then we heard someone scream

who sounded like him, but could be anything. Could be anything. Could be a coincidence that our friend went missing and then we heard someone scream who sounded like him but like could be anything could be anything could be anything and then they find another goddamn pile of sticks wrapped together outside their tent and Mike has kind of lost it he's over in like the corner

Mike starts doing the like rocking back and forth thing he's kind of just sitting by himself, rocking, kind of muttering to himself. And then he yells he found some cigarettes at the bottom of his bag. And so him and Heather share a cigarette and they are like just sitting smoking a cigarette. And then Heather goes back to the sticks to look through them. to look through them and she like opens up the stick pile

and is opening it up and then sees that it's full of blood and there's a little like sachet a little satchel a satchel I don't know sachet

sachet away sachet away sachet sachet sachet away and sachet you stay that's covered in blood that she like opens up and films herself opening it up with one hand and inside is like hair and blood and she's like screaming

it's teeth I looked it up because I couldn't actually see I was really trying to make out what it was you can see that it's teeth i looked i looked it up because i couldn't actually see i was really trying to make out what it was you can see that it's like a bloody clump of hair and something but it's it's actually it's teeth and it was actual teeth that they used from a dentist office i didn't see them either but apparently it's teeth and so she fucking freaks out and is screaming um but like hyperventilating panic attack but she does not tell mike because mike she can see is also not doing well just as it is without knowing about the bloody hairy teeth wouldn't help him

to be sure no so it's night number seven sun goes down this is when we get our classic shot that's on the cover beanie and eyes and snotty nose and she is doing a little confessional

basically to the camera kind of a little last message just in case you know i don't know what's going to happen i'm so sorry i'm so sorry to mike's parents i'm so sorry to josh's parents i'm so sorry to my parents this is all my fault i'm so scared i'm so scared i think we might fucking die out here and i don't know what's going to happen. And this is all my fault. And I'm just I'm just so sorry to everybody that I made us do this. She's crying, snot's pouring out of her nose. She looks to I can only think of also scary movie, just the spoofs on this. There have been so many parodies of it.'s hard to take it seriously um and then she kind of oh the the line

that i wrote down because i thought it was such a good line is i'm scared to close my eyes i'm scared to open them just like oh she kind of turns and it's like what what was that what was that what was that she's so on edge um and she hears what could be josh like the screaming again i guess and then her and mike start moving towards trying to find him they're like kind of running now with the cameras every like starting from this point it's just kind of like non-stop movement like from here on out it's just running and it's nighttime, remember? So it's pitch pitch black, except for where the lights of the camera are showing. And so, yeah, they come across a house.

Super like dilapidated rundown house. And it's moving between Heather's camera and Mike's camera at this point. And you keep hearing Josh screaming for screaming for them mike's going after josh heather's screaming for mike because she keeps losing him they go inside this house hell no am i going inside this house at this point it's like textbook the scariest house you could imagine don't fucking go in that house wait Wait till daytime. But they think they hear Josh screaming inside the house. So they go in. Which makes it a little bit more realistic that they would actually go inside.

So they go inside the house. The house is fucking scary. It's they run upstairs when they're upstairs. They see all these baby handprints. They're like tiny, bloody handprints. Handprints all over the walls. And also like runes. Ew, no.

Yeah. So they hear it upstairs, but then they think they hear him downstairs. So like Mike's running after Josh, hearing him upstairs. Heather's running after Mike. And then they get separated, right? And so she's upstairs and looking around upstairs. And it's just like everywhere the camera pans, you expect to see something pop out. So it's a very frightening scene.

It's just you're so on edge. And then, yeah, she hears something from downstairs and runs down. And she's like, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. Goes down into. Is it a basement? I think it's a basement.

It's below ground now, but she has the light from her camera and is running so crazy and turns the camera and you see mike not holding his camera just standing staring at the corner of the wall no no no yeah and that's the final scene and then and then no something hits her oh and her camera falls and it just shows the wall. And that's it. And also before this, also before this, Mike, Mike had something had hit Mike. So you'd had Mike's camera and he'd been hit and his camera had fallen. His camera falls. And then she's running after Mike and then she pans and you just see him standing in the corner staring at the wall. Just staring at the wall.

And then something hits her and her camera falls. And then the movie's over. Credits. Oh, my God. So I will say I was incredibly disappointed. I wanted to see that nasty ass witch. I was really. We never got a single shot of the witch. and apparently there was supposed to be a shot of

the witch when when they're running in the woods apparently there was a person standing in costume in the robe looking fucking scary like off to camera and they were supposed to pan to it but they didn't and then they didn't never reshot it and so damn we were supposed to get a glimpse of the witch but we never did and i totally usually like you know never seeing the thing we've talked about this before there is something scarier to not seeing the thing but i think in this situation i would have liked a little peek at that thing. A little glimpse. A little glimpse. Yeah. The movie was more about

being scared about getting lost, I would say. I mean, that was actually kind of like the scarier thing in a way. So then the idea is at the end of the movie, like when people sent condolence letters to these families that like something happened to them at the end of this movie and we don't know but they're probably dead yes i think so but also they disappeared um but so the

mr parr thing that's mentioned at the beginning who like makes little boys stare at the corner of the room when he kills them. I kind of got the impression, and this might be totally wrong, but that the witch maybe kind of puts a trance on people and makes them maybe kill for her and she's not doing the killing. Other people? And so I was kind of imagining it. Interesting.

I was imagining it at the end as like Mike is now under a trance. I don't know. i don't know but i can't it's like loosely enough that it doesn't really definitively say anything but it's also enough of a tie that it kind of makes it feel related it could also be that mr pyre and the witch are just the same thing yeah yeah yeah people are just creating like mythology about spooky, scary things that have happened. And like, they just put different names to it. Yeah. But that was relevant.

I mean, in the beginning that he specifically said that he would kill someone and make them stay in the corner. Well, and that wasn't originally in it. And that wasn't originally in it. And they had to go back and add in that line because it originally didn't include that and ended the same way. And the test audiences were too confused. And so they had to add that in just to have one line to kind of connection point. Yeah. Yeah. Weird.

Yeah. So I feel very happy that i have now seen this movie seems like something to check off the bucket list if you know what i mean definitely classic definitely and it's short it's only a little over an hour easy scary game changer i'm mad i didn't make it i'm mad that this wasn't my idea and well one Well, one day you'll go back in time, kill Hitler, and then make this movie. Yeah. Praise be. Praise be. Merry podcast,

everyone. Merry podcast. What's our next one? We've announced it. Oh my god, it's Mandy. Guys, I'm really excited. Oh, no, one thing that I did want to say is that this episode will come out the day after Emily's birthday. So everybody wish Emily a happy belated birthday. Oh my god.

Happy birthday. Thank you so much. So much. Thank you so much. It will be my birthday. And thank you so much for wishing me a happy birthday. birthday and thank you so much for wishing me a happy birthday um you know i thought it'd be i don't mind having a birthday in quarantine it's not too bad yeah um yeah it'll be all right gonna have a big birthday zoom a big birthday zoom we're gonna make some cocktails and have a big birthday Zoom and it'll be alright. And on that note.

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