Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE CONJURING with Betsy Sodaro

Episode Date: October 30, 2019

A hateful demon, incredibly attractive paranormal investigators, and way too many nasty nightgowns - we are recapping James Wan's 2013 film The Conjuring. The wonderful and very brave Betsy Sodaro (A Funny Feeling and We Love Trash) joins us this week to talk about Sammy's all-time scariest film. You're gonna want to call your priest after this one. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm very, very scared. I'm Henley. I'm also scared. I am Sammy. I'm usually brave, but today I'm also pretty scared. Her resolve is deteriorating. Oh, no. Well, did anything scary happen to us in the real world? I have one following the same theme from a couple weeks ago i had yet another scary cat dream oh no if anyone wants to um write in and tell us what these mean i would love to hear i would truly love that dream interpreters please let us know please let us know. So this time it was my childhood cat, Oreo.

And his feet fell off. I hate that. That is scary. And I had to carry him around because I couldn't put him on the ground. And I was trying to get to work, but I couldn't because

I needed to get Oreo to the vet first. And that was just the vet first and that was just the conundrum I was in I can't really remember the rest of it but yeah it was really upsetting that's scary that is scary scary

well I keep shoehorning them in but really okay the scariest thing that happened to me this week it also happened to Sammy. And on Friday, we were out at a local bar. I won't say where because we're keeping it private. And we saw none other than Matthew Reese. In the real world.

And I almost cried. I started like hyperventilating yeah this is a big deal for us i'd say this was huge deal for us the americans are it's your all-time favorite and carrie russell jennings from the americans wow we have a video of both of us crying when he won an Emmy and we were really tempted to show it to we just we decided not to so much we love him so much and he's also just someone I would never expect to see like he doesn't I kept saying what's he doing here why does he doesn't live here in LA I know this and also I was like where's Carrie? What's happening? Why is he here? And I think he's shooting something

and that's normal and couples can be separate and that's also healthy. Would have been great to see both of them though. If I might have passed out. I really might have passed out if I'd seen them together. True. It was scary in a good way.

Mm-hmm. A scary thing that happened to me this week was I, you know, do you guys get your phone notifying you of your like average screen time each day on Sundays? Yes. My fucking average screen time last week was 5 hours and 47 minutes a day and it like shook me to my core. Wait, I want to look at mine now. I'm curious to find this. Okay okay so i downloaded this new game and this is exactly why it's been happening and it's called block doku don't download it it's uh i'm downloading it right now block doku it's a mixture

between tetris and sudoku oh boy and truly i i guess i play it five hours and 47 minutes a day are you really good at it though i bet you're pretty good at it yeah but i deleted it after And truly, I guess I play it five hours and 47 minutes a day. Are you really good at it, though? I bet you're great at it. I'm pretty good at it, yeah. But I deleted it after that because I was like, what am I doing with my life? It was a nightmare. Oh, no. Yeah.

The other very scary thing that happened to me this week was watching this week's movie, which was terrifying. This week's movie was The Conjuring. Oh, boy. Came out in 2013. Scary. Very scary. Directed by James Wan.

Written by Chad and Carrie Hayes. Starring Patrick Wilson, Vera Farmiga, Ron Livingston, Lily Taylor, Joey King, Mackenzie Foy. Oh, my God. Yeah. And it's fucking scary. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah.

I am really scared. We have technically a return guest for what you may have heard. We just we disclosed due to technical difficulties and or haunting our last episode with this guest never surfaced. So we're all really nervously watching the recording as it happens. She's a comedian. She is an actor. She has two podcasts, a funny feeling, and we love trash. A Funny Feeling and We Love Trash. She is the very best

and we're so thrilled she was willing to come back and do this again. Thank you for coming again. Betsy Sedora. Thank you. No, seriously, I'm so pumped because I said this before

and I'll say it again. It's my favorite thing. Yeah, you do. You are a known lover of Halloween, scary movies. Yes. You are a known lover of Halloween. Scary movies. In fact, when our friend Jess came on a few weeks ago, she just named after you so many times.

So casually. She was like, oh, that's right. And I was, you know, because of Betsy. And I realized as we were going, like, we're just going to assume everyone knows what we're talking about. I'm the only Betsy in the world. I think that's right. I think that's right. I'm so pumped and I'm

even more pumped to see if this one gets ruined because then that means I'm fucking haunted. We're going to have a real conundrum on our hands if that happens again. I will like really I'll go through something if it happens.

Two makes it a pattern. And what's common there is you. Yep. And let's just hope. Let's just hope. Fingers crossed. Let's just hope. Betsy, what's the scariest movie you've ever seen?

Well, actually, I mean, recently, I think it has to be The Conjuring. Within the last, I mean, that was six years ago. But like, that was one that just, wow. Oh, no. I loved it has to be The Conjuring within the last. I mean, that was six years ago, but like that was one that just wow. Oh, no. I loved it, though. I loved it so much. But I was like, I hadn't felt that way in a while seeing a movie. I did recently just watch.

I think it's streaming on Prime. This one called Hell House LLC. And it's a blast and I jumped a lot. It's kind of like a found footage about this group of friends putting together a

big haunted house for Halloween, but then all this shit goes down. It's a good jump scare one. This one's a lot of jump scares, right? Yeah, but then also like just really good, creepy, earned. It's such a good balance.

This is like a real movie. I think that's why it was. I don't know if it was a hit. I think it was. I think it was. I think it was. I mean, it sprouted off a whole. Yeah. I didn't realize that like Annabelle and all of those are part of it, too.

And I think it was where it's just like, oh, these are good actors. This is straight up a good movie that happens to be scary. Yeah. It's so good. But this and then The Changeling is one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. The last episode. The last episode. And as I was watching Conjuring

again, there's a lot of similarities. I think this is what gets me going. Yep. I think Sammy's actually scared. This one kind of really got to her I think. It's fucking scary. Yeah well so I'll

tell the story of the first time I saw The Conjuring because I didn't see it in theaters. If I'd seen this in theaters I would have just dropped dead I think. It was one of those where it was just like. Did you see it in theaters Betsy? Three times. Oh my god. I loved it so much but that first time just on the edge of my seat like just

holding on to Mano and Drew just being like like, what the fuck is going to happen? It's awesome. I was working at a trailer place where we were working on this movie and I was an assistant editor and one of the producers at the end of the night. First of all, they like that was long standing knowledge that the building that we worked in was haunted. And I was on the night shift and so as everyone left, one of the producers was like, can you go through this new movie we just got in The Conjuring

and pull selects from it? And so I was alone in the machine room is what we called it, where it's just computer screens everywhere. And so every time I moved, my reflection would move and so I was just like jumping around like

freaking myself out and I had to watch The Conjuring by myself. I can't believe you got through that. It was a true nightmare. I thought it was also like an HR claim waiting to happen. That's what I was going to say. Should I quit? Yeah, definitely. Do you do it with like headphones on too? Yes, yes. That's so scary.

Yeah. That's so scary. Yeah. That's a horrifying way to have to watch it. Oh, it was a nightmare. And so I was, this is the first time I've rewatched it since then. And I was really scared. And Henley graciously actually offered to be the brave person this week. And I figured since I had already seen it, I might as well just bite the bullet so that I could scare you. I also just, I can't even believe, like, I don't't think you I don't know what you were thinking, Henley.

It's exactly what you said earlier. Mind over matter. Mind over matter. So we'll see what happens. Henley texted today because I was doing some research about this movie and was already like, I just like searched, I typed the conjuring into my Google search and the

images that came up, I was like, oh god. And I was getting oh god and I was getting so scared and I texted I texted about it in our chain and Emily said I just decided I'm not going to be scared by this movie I love that I made a decision

Emily you have to watch it then and we have to find out if it does scare you okay I need someone to watch it with me though because my fiance will not watch any scary movies. It's not going to be me. It's not going to be Emily for sure.

Oh God, no. In a strange role reversal, Henley doesn't seem to be that scared of this movie, but I am and I will need a cocktail to make it through it. So let's jump right into cocktail hour. This week's cocktail is a Devil's Margarita. To make this cocktail, you'll need one and a half ounces of Blanco tequila, one ounce of fresh lime juice, three

quarters an ounce of simple syrup, and a half an ounce of red wine. Combine the first three ingredients in a cocktail shaker with ice and shake until chilled and then strain into a martini glass and float the red wine over the top so it has a spooky red float and garnish with a lime. And if you're like me, you're going to need a couple of them because I am scared. Cheers. They just, I don't know if you saw this in the news, but the house that inspired the like where. Yeah. Because The Conjuring is based on a true story.

Very scary. And somebody just bought the house. In like June or July. That's a stupid decision. They're like ghost. Oh, like paranormal. Ghost free investigators. in like June or July. That's a stupid decision. They're like ghost freaks. They're like pumped and they plan on kind of restoring it and then opening it up to the public.

That's kind of fun, I guess. That's better than like a family of seven. Exactly. A family of seven just being like, we're really struggling for money. We'll buy this house nobody wants. You should see the picture of the fucking house. It is disgusting. It's from the

1700s and it looks like it. I couldn't see how any person would be like, yeah, I want to live in that. It looks like such a haunted house. I think it's in Rhode Island. That's a spooky state. It is scary.

New England is horrifying. That's a spooky state. New England is scary. New England is horrifying. Yeah, New England is definitely horrifying. It's so spooky. It's full of ghosts. The witch. You know the ghosts are all there. I mean, after experiencing the witch. Yes.

Yep. But yeah, the owner's like, as soon as we bought it and were there, stuff started happening. Oh, God. Jesus. Oh, God. No. Yeah. So that was one of the

trivia is that I looked up is that I did not know that this was based on a true story. I was like searching for proof that it was not trying to prove it was a prank.

So it's just a prank. That's when I decided not to be scared. At that stage, when Sammy was desperate enough to be searching the Internet, trying to find out if it was a

prank. I was like, I need proof that Ed and Lorraine Warren are like con artists. There's a lot of like... There's definitely questions to be asked. Stuff on them. So that's what I was doing to calm myself down afterwards because I was pretty freaked.

Yeah, yeah. And I feel like some of this stuff was faked. May have been legit, but then some of it may have been faked. Yeah, I can accept that as long as I'm getting a little bit of safety. How do you pronounce? I can't have this be a true story. How do you pronounce the last name of the family? Perrin?

Perrin? Perrin? Perrin? I don't know. So here's the trivia. Eight generations of families lived and died

in the house before that family moved in. Eight generations. So the deaths that happened there included two documented suicides,

a poisoning death. This one's bad. The rape and murder of an 11-year-old girl. That's so gross. Two drownings and four men who froze to death. This one's bad. The rape and murder of an 11-year-old girl. Jesus Christ. Two drownings. And four men who froze to death. Froze to death.

Wow. Really? Not good stuff happening. No. This is a haunted house. Yeah. A lot of really, really. And it looks haunted.

It looks fucking haunted. Even in the 1700s, I don't think anybody was pumped to look at that house. There's no point in which that house was good. No! It was always nasty as hell. I guarantee it. It must have been. Also, when the movie was shown in the Philippines, some cinemas had to hire Catholic priests to bless the viewers before showing it.

This was due to some viewers having reported a negative presence after watching the film. The priests also provided spiritual and psychological help to the viewers. Can you imagine going to see a movie and then immediately upon leaving talking to a priest?

I need to see my priest. What priest does the theater have? I was going to say to demand that a theater provide a priest in to a priest. I need to see my priest. What priest does the theater have? I was going to say to demand that a theater provide a priest in house priest. I am like popcorn, like show it in the theater priest priest. You got it. That's wild.

Okay, so I haven't obviously have not seen this movie, but it apparently doesn't have well it's okay no sex or nudity little profanity god yes tame and mostly bloodless violence but it has an r rating because of how fucking scary it is that makes sense from scary and that's insane the thing that popped up on netflix the rating reasons, was because of sequences of disturbing violence and terror.

Terror! It's a terribly rated R for terror. For just the amount of terror. It's so good. Oh, boy. Should we watch the trailer? Let's watch the trailer. I'm very scared to watch the trailer. Let's watch it. Yes! Buckle up. It's November 1st, 1971. I'm sitting here with

Carolyn Perrin, who, with her family, has been experiencing supernatural occurrences. You picking up anything in here, hon? Something awful happened here, Ed. What is it? We have to get out of here. That's not gonna help. This thing has latched itself to your family. Father, we've never seen nothing like this.

I'm coming with you. No way, I can't lose you. Wait! There's a lady in a dirty nightgown that I see in my dreams. She's standing in front of my mom's bed. oh i couldn't even watch that trailer i i couldn't even look at it well that's how i usually am with kind of these kind of horror movies in general i just cover my eyes a lot and this time i was like well i've got to talk about it So I was really forcing myself to watch it.

Did you watch it during the daytime? Yeah, I watched it at night and I almost turned the lights off. But then I was like, let's not go overboard. That's huge. That's huge. I like I ended up watching this alone, but it was the first time because I've tried before in like hotel rooms. Like it would be on HBO.

I was like, yeah, I'm going to watch it. And then I get too scared. But I did this time and I was like I'm gonna go pitch black but I didn't I got too scared yeah I was too scared and also after watching it um my cat was doing the thing where they just stare at like a space on the wall and that was not ideal for me no no Sammy with two cats I think it's ill-advised for you to be watching all these, with two cats, I think it's ill-advised for you to be watching all these horror movies. Yeah, well, most of them, I've said it before, but it's the ghost and

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Vera Farmiga. They're paranormal researchers. He's a demonologist. She's a clairvoyant. And they're kind of a team that go in and help people with hauntings. And so this is one of their previous cases.

And they're also married? Are they together? They're a married couple, yes. And they're also married. Right. Are they like together? They're a married couple. Yes. And Lorraine Warren was a was an advisor on the film. She was still alive at the at the she actually just died this year. Yeah. But she was she was an advisor on this film and said it all happened.

What did she what did she die of? Just curious. I think she was just old age. I don't know. Oh, really? It was a demon. I think she was just old age. I don't know. Oh, really? I think she was being older. Is that why? It was a demon, I think. Oh, really?

Well, okay. Sure. Likely story. Yeah, a demon sucked her age out of her. That makes way more sense. Yeah, so they're like talking to two or three people, two who are nurses. And this is based, Annabelle is a real doll. But it was a Raggedy Ann doll.

But it's a Raggedy Ann doll. And they were like, let's make it a way scarier looking doll. Yeah, a way nastier doll. In the Annabelle movies, too many people are like, oh, this doll is awesome looking. It's like, no, that's fucking nasty. Too many people are like, what a beautiful doll. But the nurse student, the nurses are like, it started off with just like a hand movie, you know, like the doll's hand being not where it was propped.

And then it started going on to like being in a different room and all of this shit. And then they start getting like notes from it. Yeah, that right like, miss me? And they tell Ed and Lorraine, they're like, oh, a psychic or somebody told us that there's a spirit of a little

girl named Annabelle. Right. Like hanging around and wanted to use our doll. And so we're nurses. We like to help people they say and they're like come yeah go ahead spirit live in this doll right oh no and ed and lorraine are both like you did what you can't do that that's not a that's not a ghost it's a demon or another being that's not human right it has never been human and so the nurses invited a demon into the doll giving it more

power yeah people what would have happened though if they had said no can you really do we have the power to be like no demon and it'll go like oh they didn't say yes I mean I guess so there are things that humans can do to invite demons into their lives I like to hear that.

People who have had weird shit happening just be like, okay, go in and just be like, this is my space. No. Get out. Right. And it works. But also, I don't know. Probably because there are so many easier targets.

Yeah. Right. Hit up an actual kid. Yeah. You idiot. So these stupid fucking nurses invited a demon into the doll. Yes. And all this creepy shit starts happening. And eventually

they're like so freaked out that they like take it downstairs to the dumpster. And they throw Annabelle in the trash. That never works. Never works. You're absolutely right. It never works. They're sleeping in their fucking huge thick

nightgowns and there's banging on the door and they open the doors. He looks around, nothing, nothing, and then looks down and the crumpled up miss me note from earlier written in crayons because she's a doll is crumpled

is like folded out at their doorstep. And then they hear another bang from a door down the hallway. And one of the other nurse opens up the door. And in the room, there's

drawings all over the walls in red crayon, so it kind of looks like blood. It's very spooky and creepy. Very spooky. And it says miss me again I think. Yeah. And Annabelle's just in the room. Just chilling. Scary. And so they've

gone to Ed and Lorraine to be like we don't know what to do. Yeah. And Ed and Lorraine are like okay we'll take the doll for you. Oh. Which apparently and here I've for a funny feeling, I did a little blob on Annabelle the

doll. And apparently like on the way home while I think Ed was driving the doll, the doll was in the back seat, like their car started to like malfunction. Oh no way. I guess the doll! Oh my god stuff. It's the dog!

Oh my god. Maybe it's the demon we put in our car. Yeah, yeah. And then I think it just cuts to them in the university classroom, right? Yeah, I think so. Wait, did we already say that this is 1971?

Well, that was a few years earlier. I think that was like sometime mid mid 60s. And then it cuts to. Oh, yeah. And then it's like pulling out of a projection projection. And they're they're teaching that case in a class to like university students. And so they're like, and that was, you know, the Annabelle case. And how we solved the Annabelle case and how we solved the Annabelle case and

that's where we get to meet them and hear more information about them and they're you know like I said a person's like so what do you call yourselves and Patrick Wilson's like oh paranormal investigators one other thing and then

Vera Fermiga comes in she goes kooks and it gets a big laugh. Do they say what they end up doing with the doll after? Yes it comes in later. We'll see her again. So then there's like a fun

like freeze frame of them and it's like like creepy loud music and then it goes to explain like Ed and Lorraine Warren have done a bunch of cases and there was one that they were too scared to talk about until now.

And then it's like the conjuring and it looks cool and old like it looks like a 70s horror movie. Is that true? That they truly like didn't talk about this case until this movie was made? I don't know. I'm not sure about that. Okay.

So then we cut to this family of seven. Too many. Too many. That's a lot. Too many. Lots of babies. Mother and father and five daughters moving into a new spooky house. Too spooky.

The mom and dad are Roger and Carolyn. And the daughters are Christine, Cindy, Andrea, April, and Nancy. And they move in and the dog won't come in the house. Oh, not a good sign. The dog is a bad sign. And immediately you're like, fuck. The animals always know. Yes, animals always know. Yes, animals always

know. They just, they are connected. Animals always know and kids always talk to the ghost. The kid's always the first one to see it. Yeah, I've never had a kid for many reasons, but that's a big one. They have a fucking imaginary friend.

Uh-uh, that's a ghost. I don't need to be around that. That's fucking gross. Get out of here. So then we get introduced to their horrible clapping hide and seek game. So they're in this big

kind of, you know, new house and the girls are all excited and they play hide and seek and the rules of the game are you get to ask the people hiding to clap new house and the girls are all excited and they play hide and seek and the rules of the game are you get to ask the people hiding to clap um at three different points in the game so you get like warmer and closer to one is the idea so they're playing that in the new house and it's i i hate this game i hate this game so much i hate it much. So it's like hide and seek plus Marco Polo. Yes. Exactly. Pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, and so the littlest one has discovered this music box and is sitting there and is just like, huh? And looking at it and then when the music stops, she like looks behind her shoulder.

This is a little something. So they're playing this clap game and one of the girls finds another one in this closet and like shoves her being like, I got you! And lo and behold, there's a big thundering

crash. They discover a damn door or a doorway. Or a doorway. To a basement. To a fucking basement. That's very Conjuring. Discovering. I mean the fucking Changeling. Changeling? Conjuring?

They're so similar. C-H? End with a G? The C-H-ing? The C-H-ing? Oh, I guess Conjuring didn't. The C-H-ing? The C-H-ing? Oh, I guess Conjuring didn't. Oh, Conjuring doesn't have a C-H. The C-H-ing? The C-H-ing?

What's going on? Look, I don't think we're making a leap here. Nuh-uh. To discover a nasty basement, and the dad, like, goes down, and the mom follows, and he's just using matches, and he's like, whoa, there's a lot of stuff and it's like horrifying looking piano and then all sorts of things like covered in sheets and so many spider webs and cobwebs and it's

disgusting and a ball a red ball no way a red ball way dude that's another reference to the that was another thing that was close to changing a piano where the mom maybe this is later when they're like going through it, but where she plays three notes.

Oh. Okay. Okay. Remember that. I'm getting that. Remember that. It's so scary. But I don't think anything like scary happens yet.

They go to sleep that night. Yes. And then they wake up in the morning and the mom has like bruises like crazy but they have they have sex that night they're like and so she wakes up and she's like we don't see it we don't see it no

but they talk about it and then the next morning she's like oh I guess like we got a little rough last night but like the bruises are kind of like they're crazy like getting hit with like a bat bruises are kind of crazy. They're huge bruises, like getting hit with a bat bruises. She doesn't seem more suspicious of them? No, she writes

it off pretty quick. Yeah, she thinks Roger did it to her. Interesting. He slapped her leg with his dick. Huge bruises from that. You must have slapped me with your big, heavy dick. Not again. Roger, what's his name?

Definitely possible. Pretty big dick. Probably got you. And she notices that all the clocks stopped at 3.07. Which I talked about this on Changeling. I remember.

I'm going to repeat it because the listeners haven't heard it um after my third time seeing it uh the conjuring i went out had fun and then went to bed and fucking woke up at 307 a.m

to immediately just email all my friends i just saw the con rain with. Just be like, this is too fucking spooky. I like turned the lights on and watched Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yeah. Because I was too fucking scared. It's the only choice at that point.

That's it. It's happening to me. And then the youngest daughter, April, is like, where's Sadie? And they're like, oh, we couldn't get her to come in. She's still outside. Oh, Sadie's the dog, sorry. Sadie's the dog. And she's like, oh, she's tied up outside. And

they go outside and Sadie has been killed. Sadie is dead. Strangled herself. Oh, us, the animal always comes first. Oh, yeah, because as they were getting ready for bed and to do it, Sadie kept just barking at the house. And the mom's like, wow, Sadie's really been losing it.

He's like, don't worry, she's tied up. She'll be fine. And then she died. I don't like that rule. I think they say she strangled herself to death. Yeah, obviously. A ghost did it. That is so sad.

It's bad, but honestly, a part of me was a little relieved because you know that dog is going to die and it happened really quick. It did happen quick. And I was like, okay. That's the horror movie trope though that I want to see. Because that's always usually the rule

setter almost. Well, it has to happen not to a human first. Let's do a dog. I was like, no. So then we get to, it cuts to the Warren household, Ed and Lorraine's house, and we kind of see their, they have

a room full of objects that have been possessed by demons, I guess. The conduits. They, like they have a room where they just put them all? Like a bunch of locks. Annabelle's in there and all sorts of other creepy shit.

And he's like getting interviewed by a dude. He's like, here's all of our stuff. Do not touch any of this. Yeah. Because the demon could attach to you instead. And we find that they have a daughter. And then I think we go back to the Perrin household. Yeah.

And it's this is a part that I hate the most, I think, is it's in the two of the girls. Oh, yeah. Bedrooms. This is one of the scariest scenes ever. It's Christine and Nancy, two of the middle sisters, and they have like twin beds next to each other and Christine's

leg gets pulled. And you see it. And they're sleeping? They're sleeping. And she kind of like turns and is like, Nancy, like, stop it. And she says, stop farting. Oh oh yeah because everybody's been kind of complaining like there's a smell there's a nasty smell in the house which is never a good sign not

a good sign not a good sign and it's also cold in the house yes not a good sign cold and yeah so she's like nancy stop pulling my leg and stop farting. And you see that Nancy is put on Nancy. Yeah, poor Nancy. Nancy really gets it, this movie. And you see that Nancy is just asleep in her bed. And then like a bigger pullout. Or is that not yet? I don't think that one is yet.

Does she realize what's happened to her or no? No, she's just like a little like confused. Yeah. Maybe she thinks she had one to her? Or no? No, she's just like a little confused. Yeah. Maybe she thinks she had one of those dreams where you're like you're off a curb. And he's like, ah! Maybe that. And then we see downstairs, Roger

is the old TV static on the TV, which I hate a lot. Also, that was also a paranormal activity. Yeah. And he hears a banging and is trying to find it. This whole scene is very tense because, you know, looking for where the banging is coming from.

Just hearing the banging and him is like, where? And it's a huge house with a million doors it feels like it has like 30 different ways to get in and out of this fucking place yeah so he's just like checking every door with like the slow like tense like build up

and you're just like where is it going what is going on and then at the he like gets to the foot of the stairs and the oldest daughter is like standing there and it's like quite a jump scare because it like comes to her. It's a good scare. And she's like in a nasty nightgown.

It's creepy. Yeah. And Jessica is standing there and he's like, what is going on? You should be in bed. And she's like, Cindy, one of the other daughters, many daughters, is sleepwalking again. And she is banging her head against the closet in the oldest daughter's room. Yeah, this big, like, nasty wardrobe.

Oh, that you thought were like... That's distressing. Which came with the house, guys. Oh, no. Bad news. No, no, no, no, no. Awful. This wardrobe does not.

Yeah, she's like banging her head against it, sleepwalking. And so Roger comes in. That's very spooky. Puts his hand between her head and the closet and kind of guides her back to her bed. Yeah. So the next morning, the mom has some new bruises. More bruises. She's like, more sex?

Did we even know that? I think this time she's like, what the fuck? She's like a little more confused. Yeah, and her husband is like, hey, go to the doctor. She's like, okay. So the oldest daughters all go to school and only one of the daughters is young enough to stay home. Roger goes to work. So it's

just the mom and the youngest daughter in the house, April. And she hears her talking to someone in a room. She's having a tea party. And she's like, who are you talking to? And there's a cool shot of just seeing

the girl in the door and then the mom pushes the door and nobody's there because the girl's talking, and then the mom pushes the door and nobody's there because like the girl's talking like having a conversation with someone. She's like, who are you talking to? My friend Rory. My new friend Rory. And she

like has her little music box and she's like, if you turn the little music thing in the music box, you can see him behind you. And this is a part where, yeah, normally I would have closed my eyes and I forced myself to watch it. Yeah, you did. And she does it and she sees a very creepy little like 18th century boy.

That's Vera. I don't think she sees one yet. Because there's the scare of her closing it and it's her kid. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Sorry, I spoiled it for later. It's fine. Either way, it's a spooky scene. It's fucking scary.

And then the kid's like, can we play clap? Is that what it's called? Hide and clap. Hide and clap. And the answer is no after seeing an 18th century ghost. Oh wait, no, she hasn't actually seen the ghost yet. Sorry. Okay. So the answer is yes! Of course! My favorite game!

And so she's like, okay mom, you're it. Tying a blindfold around her and then making her spin around ten times and she's like, remember, you get three you get to ask three times for a clap or whatever. And so the game begins and the mom's done spinning. She's like, well, and she's like, okay, first clap.

And we hear it far away somewhere out down the hall somewhere. And so she's like making her way down the hall, just feeling everywhere. And there's like a huge area where she could fall over a railing and die. It does seem like yeah a bad place to be

blindfolded walking around. Go downstairs and be like okay. Only on the first floor. Only on the first floor. Yeah. Cause she could easily flip over a railing and fall to her death. Anyway she does it and so she keeps going and she's like oh and bumps easily flip over a railing and fall to her death. Anyway, she doesn't. And so she keeps going and she's like, and bumps her

leg and is like, okay, second clap. And then we hear, second clap, and she starts to make her way into the room with this wardrobe. And she's like, I think I... And she's like, quiet think I... And she's like

quiet and then the doors to the wardrobe open. And she's like, I think I know where you are. She's like smiling. Ooh, I hear you. And you clap. And then two hands reach out.

And she's like, I'm gonna get you. She sneaks up, I'm gonna get you she sneaks out i'm gonna get you and you hear like a oh and she says like i can hear you breathing yes and then um as she's like getting ready to put her arms in the clothes into the wardrobe she hears like laughing coming from the hallway and like pulls the pulls the blindfold up and it's just like what the fuck and turns and april jumps into the door and is like hi mom you took your blindfold off you didn't even like you weren't even close you weren't even close i was in a completely different bedroom and then mom turns around and she's like digging through

being like what did i just hear but also playing it cool so she doesn't freak April out. So the hands that came out what did they look like? They're gray. They're gray and spooky. Gray and spooky. Big old sleeves like kind of like what you think a pilgrim shirt would look like. Okay.

Yeah. It's a fantastic scene. So damn scary. Oh, God. And then we're back in Christina and Nancy's room for the following night. And this is the, I think, scariest part of the movie. This scene I think about too often when I'm about to go to bed. Okay, well, tell us about it so we can also think about it before we go to bed, too.

After this scene where I had to turn it off multiple times in hotel rooms and stuff, I'm like, too scary. This is the cutoff point. So, we're back in that room. Christina is sleeping with her legs out and, like,

pulls her and she and like pulls her and she's like what stop it Nancy stop it whatever whatever and then and there's a slow kind of like paranormal activity like a slow not slow but a low sound

like a low like something's going on something's up and then a bigger whoosh pulls her almost completely off to where she wakes up and she's just like, what? What the fuck's going on? And she sees like no one is. She sees Nancy is asleep. So she's like freaking out.

And she's just like, what the fuck? And so she goes to look under her bed. Don't do that. Don't do that. And she makes her way down look under her bed. Don't do that. Don't do that. And she makes her way down, looking under the bed. And very creepy shots. Very creepy shots. Slow peeking under the bed.

Nothing. Okay, but we see under the bed towards, and the door was open, right? The door's open. Door's open to the hallway. We see like a part of nancy's bed but but nothing and so she's like looking upside down and then the door starts to like move a little bit yeah just like creaks closed a bit so the like darkness behind the door like you can't see what's behind it but it's like and she's looking at it like she's just terrified such a

good actor she is i this is joey king and um this is the first thing that i saw her in and i remember being like oh this little girl is a good i remember that too i just in this area be like she's fucking good yeah she is she is she's really good and she starts fucking freaking out. She's just panicked. And she's like, Nancy, Nancy, Nancy, Nancy, wake up, wake up. And like starting to cry. She's crying and she's like, my palms started sweating at this point. They're sweating again now.

It's so scary. And she's like, Nancy, wake up. And Nancy wakes up and like puts on her glasses and she's like, Joey King goes like do you see do you see it behind the door like can you see can you see it

we're looking we're seeing it too and it's just pure black pitch black there's something behind that door oh my god and then Nancy walks over and she's like you're being crazy and like and she like walks over and like stands like you're being crazy and like and she like walks over and like stands like right by she's like there's nothing over here she's like

and then right behind you like it's standing above you it's right behind you and then the door slams closed and then you go into the parents room and you just hear the girls like screaming losing their minds and the the parents like run you just hear the girls like screaming, losing their mind. And the parents like run in and they can't open the door. And they eventually get in. Oh, man, I have so many chills. It's so scary. They eventually get in.

And this is like Joey King's like such a good like scream. Like she's just scream crying. Yeah. And it's just like somebody's in here. And of course, dad's like, nobody's in here or whatever. Like, everybody's just like, what the fuck? Okay. Oh, and

Joey King says, they're like, what happened? And she says, it told me it wants my family dead. It wants my family dead. Oh, so good. But they haven't actually been harmed, like physically harmed. No. Right.

Just emotionally traumatized. Yeah. For a long period of time. Are we to understand that Nancy, the other sister, didn't see whatever Joe... I think she felt it, right? Yeah, I think with the door slam, she was like, oh, fuck. But she couldn't see it. But she didn't hear, yeah.

Yeah, and couldn't hear, Yeah. I want my family dead. I want my family dead. She's really good. So nasty. I was literally on the edge of my seat while you guys were telling us that. Oh, God. It was so spooky. It's such a good, scary scene.

And so then I think it's the next night, but maybe this same night the mom has like more bruises and that's when the husband is like, please go get that checked out. Or no, the husband is maybe gone. He goes out somewhere. Yes, he's a truck driver. So he's gone for the night. And the mom, Carolyn, hears

clapping. Yeah, she hears like giggling and like running and then clapping and she's like girls, don't. Everybody's asleep. Like she's asleep. It's like the middle of the night and she's like, girls it's way too late. Like why are you playing hide and clap? And then she goes into each of their

rooms. They're all asleep. Oh God, no. And all of a sudden this huge crash. And as she turns around she sees all of the pictures that huge crash. And as she turns around, she sees all of the pictures that are going down the stairs of like her family have been knocked down and she hears like

running and like laughter. And so somebody just ran down. And so she's just like, what the, what is this? Who's here? And makes her way down. She makes her way downstairs and she's still hearing the clapping and she's kind of tracing it to the very spooky basement.

Yes. She goes in and gets like. Is this where. Totally freaked out. Doesn't she also hear like the door opens to the basement and she hears the three notes she played on the piano. Oh, yes. Oh.. And she's just like what is going on?

Something is fucking with you. Yes. Don't go down there. She goes down. So she's down there and I think maybe she's looking around and it looks awful. Things are covered so it constantly looks like classic sheet ghosts are

around something's there and then yeah the ball bounces rolls out and she's like fuck this and she goes back up the stairs up the stairs and she's like whoever's down here like i'm shutting you in here and then as she turns to walk out the door slams closed into her face and knocks her back down the stairs and the like light of the basement like the light bulb like shatters so it's like pitch black so you just like hear her like kind of screaming

and freaking out and she's crawling up the stairs and she runs back up the stairs and she can't get out she can't get out but the matches from her husband when they were looking down there are still on the thing. So she strikes a match. And she's just like and she's hearing or maybe. Oh, my God.

Yes. OK. She hears a child's voice say, want to play? Want to play? Oh, come on. Want to play hide and clap or something? Hide and clap. And then hands come out from behind her

from the dark. And clap right next to her head. And the match goes out. And she loses her shit. And she's freaking out. And then at the same time in the room with the nasty wardrobe

the oldest daughter. Andrea's the oldest daughter. It's her room. No. Wakes up to that, the knocking, like, dunk, dunk, dunk, and her sister's sleepwalking again, banging her head into that wardrobe. Oh, no. And she's like, uh-oh.

So she moves her into, she says, okay, you can sleep in my room tonight, moves her into the bed, gets her tucked in. And then he is the same. And then it starts banging again. Dunk, okay, you can sleep in my room tonight. Moves her into the bed. Gets her tucked in. And then it starts banging again. And she's looking over and she's like, what? And her sister's asleep. And so she goes and makes her way to the wardrobe. Why? No, why?

I don't know. Because you're curious. Curiosity killed the cat. Thank you. You got to check it out. If your wardrobe was banging, you'd check it out. Fuck no. I was going out with my clothes.

And so she opens the doors and I think at some point the girl who was asleep and sleepwalking just sits straight up with her eyes. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry to scare you. It was

my foot hitting a thing. It's straight up like fucking Dracula coming out of his fucking coffin. She rises up looking Is she pointing? She does eventually. So the girl is like looking in the closet.

Andrea is looking in the closet. And she doesn't know that her sister is up behind her. And I think this sister is looking She like gasps or something. She makes something where Andrea turns back and looks to her sister in the bed and her sister is looking above the closet. And is just like, hi, hi, hi.

Like making some sort of noise. And then other sister looks up and it's like the shot is of a fucking old lady. Disgusting demon woman. Disgusting demon woman. In like a nasty night ground.

Crouched. And then jumps down on her. And so they start fucking screaming. So mom is in the basement fucking screaming. These kids are screaming. Dad pulls up in his big rig. Home after a night of work. With his fucking lunchbox.

Here's screaming from far away in the house and he's just like, oh god, what's going on? Gets the mom out. They run upstairs. All the kids are fucking freaking out and the oldest daughter is still on the ground. Like wrestling something that they

can't see oh no and so they're all just like yeah this place is fucking wild and it's awesome yeah so wait there's a shot of her wrestling something you can't see yes that's cool I like that there's a few shots like that that are really cool

some of the yeah filmmaking is great so they've had a very bad night and I feel like at this point everyone has had some amount of a run in and so except the dad really right he just freaked but I think

he trusts like that something is up that is pretty nice like cause so many movies someone is like you guys are all on your period. Right. This house full of women. These ladies, yikes.

Usually it is just like, nope, you guys are nuts. We can't, like everything seems pretty normal how people would act in a situation like this. No one's diminishing it. No one's dismissing it. No one's fucking up. This is crazy.

We are staying here because we bought this place and don't have money or anywhere to go. But it's not like you guys are all crazy. He's after this night, especially. He's like, OK, he buys it. He's like, OK, my family is scared. Something is happening and I'm taking it seriously. Yeah. is scared something is happening and i'm taking it seriously yeah so then we cut back to the um the warrens in another classroom teaching the three stages of demons i guess where they're like

it's in three stages it's infestation oppression and possession and as they're like describing that, the cameras move in to then get on the mom. What's her name? Caroline. Caroline. And it's like the demon will always possess like the weakest one in the family. And it's just like her sitting there looking crazy. It has to be an insult on top of everything else. The one whose hair just looks the messiest all the time.

I'm a mom of fucking 20 kids. I don't believe in birth control. And so, yeah, it zooms her and she's like, watch. And they show another like exorcist happening with like a dude whose eyes are crying red. So I guess blood bleeding, crying red. So I guess bleeding. Crying red. Bleeding. An upside down cross is like appearing on his

side under his skin. So Carolyn comes up to them after class and is like begging them like please. Yes. We need your help. Something is going on. Oh Vera's wearing a very big collar yes this is when she's wearing the big collar she is fabulous she's great unbelievable and just this

whole movie just like i don't know yeah she's perfect she's perfect everything she's in perfect yeah she's um so yeah so they're like okay we'll come and check it out they agree and they go to the house and they walk in and um lorraine vera fermiga is like kind of hit it like immediately kind of hit with it and she's like ed something there's definitely there's something here like they're not they're not wrong like This is the real thing. The family is sleeping in their living room because it's gotten too scary for them. Yeah, so they feel safer and it's sleeping all together.

Yeah, and they had to tie doors closed because all throughout the night they would just hear three knocks at a time. And it's like, whoa, that's like usually a demon taunting the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity is threes. I like this reaction. I like that

they're all sleeping together. I like that they're taking it seriously. Doesn't it feel like more realistic? That's what you would do? You wouldn't just brush it off. Even if nothing is happening, if your fucking family's waking up screaming in the middle of the night, like, yeah, we'll all sleep together. Let's figure this out. Lights on.

We are not taking any chances. Whatever we want. Exactly. And they like say that the clock has been stopping at 307 every night. All the clocks stop at 307. And all the knocking all the stuff that's going stops when the sun comes up. And so

Ed and Lorraine are like, whoa. So Lorraine goes off with April and is like, tell me about your friend Rory. Yeah. And this is where we get the scene that I spoiled earlier. Yeah. Where she looks in the music box, creepy

tension building up as she's winding the little knob. It's a long, nasty song. as she's winding the little knob. There's a long nasty song. And she's zooming like she's moving it all around. Like where is this little weirdo? And you see the creepy little boy and

she turns around and he's not there but she can see him in the And he's wearing like nasty like old clothes that look like the hands. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So how old is he do you think? He's a little boy. He looks like nine. Very creepy. Very creepy. Lorraine goes outside and she's walking by this big spooky tree and looking at thereby

on like a lakefront. and looking at thereby on like a lake front her husband Ed comes out to check on her and as she turns around to look at him she you see her face and then she sees something and is looking really scared

cut to dead hanging feet behind behind Ed and he has no clue he can't see it and you hear just like a rope creaking on a branch. Just like. So a woman hung herself off this tree. Yeah.

And it's a really good scare. And then they go into the house, right? And they're like talking to them being like, okay. Like Lorraine is like, I've seen something. There's something latched to you guys yes you can't like moving out will not work because it's latched to you

it's connected to you yes it's like paranormal activity and they're like well she's like there are a lot of spirits here but there's only one that I'm really worried about because it's so hateful and And I really hated that. Just one

really evil one. Just one hateful spirit. And they're like, are your kids baptized? And they're like, no. They're like, you might want to get baptized. What? Why? Because Christianity is real.

There is a part where Ed says because like oh and they set up there is a part there is a part where there's a part where Ed says God is real the devil is real and like we have to pick a side essentially so this is a religious film a bit he like sets up crosses

around and oh maybe this hasn't happened yet but he does say that it like irritates demons when they see any religious. Yeah. What would them getting baptized do? See, that's where I feel like wouldn't that piss them off more? Oh, I guess maybe because God is ultimately more powerful than the devil.

So if you've got God on your side, you're chill. Okay. Okay. I'm pretty sure that's, you're chill. Okay. Okay. I'm pretty sure that's Christianity in a nutshell. I think so. If you've got God on your side, you're chill. You're chill. Don't worry about it. So they sit down and with the recording and so they're like

starting a new case and they're interviewing the parents and they're like we're with, you know, Carolyn and Roger Perrone and tell us what's been happening and they kind of go through some of the stuff. And that's where they're like saying, like, here's the deal. Like, it's a demon. Yeah.

Clock's always stopped. All this stuff. Then they get home. Ooh. And they play back the recording. No. And Carolyn's voice didn't record. Carolyn's voice.

Everyone's voice is there except for the mom's. Isn't that fucked up? I hated that a lot. That's one of the scariest that I've never seen in a movie. It was smart. It was scary. And then we got some

Lorraine has been doing some research into the history of the house and the previous owners and she says basically like. The original tenant. Was a descendant of. Like an accused witch. Of the Salem witch trials.

Yeah. And I think this is true. Yeah. Because this is based on a true story. Named Shebeth. It's something like that. I didn't write it down. Because I couldn't.

It's a fun name. Yeah. It's like Bethesda or something like that. Bethesda. Shebeth. It's something like that. I didn't write it down because I couldn't... It's a fun name. Yeah, it's like Bethesda or something like that. Something like Beth. Something fun. I think we should go with Shebeth. Shebeth? Shebela? And basically, they say

how she swore her allegiance to the devil and hung herself in the tree and cursed like everyone that has lived there since. Yeah, in the land and hung herself in the tree. Yeah. And cursed like everyone that lived there since. Yeah, in the land, right? In the land. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then since then, a lot of the tenants have killed themselves, killed their children.

There is like a maid that had killed herself. A little boy that got killed. And then the mom also killed herself. I can't remember if people drowned. And these are the real things that happened. That's what I was like. I need to find proof that they're all just lying. That they all just

want attention. Oh, and then the tape starts playing on its own. No. And guess what time it is? 3.07. Yeah, it is. And they're like, uh-oh. Ooh, we got some work to do. And the tape just plays back like screams. Like it's not

an interview. It's nasty. This is to Ed and Lorraine. This is to Ed and Lorraine just in their kitchen doing work. Staying up late. Staying up too late. Oh, and it's just screaming? It's like demon screams. It's like inhuman's just screaming. It's like demon screams. It's like inhuman.

Like it's awful. It's nasty. It's so bad. So, yeah, they're like, we got to help these people. They're in big trouble. Yeah. So then they have their two like people that work with them. They have like a cameraman and a tech man.

And the camera dude is a cop. Yes. And I think they're like to make sure that there's protection yeah and he's skeptical he's like whatever he thinks he's like this is all stupid i'll just make some money whatever yeah and so they're muscle they're like basically we're gonna move in with you guys and set up cameras everywhere and we're gonna oh because basically well i don't know't know. They need proof. They need proof in order to do an exorcism. They need permission from the church to do an exorcism because Ed is not an ordained priest. Yes.

So he cannot perform the exorcism. So they're applying, I think, for permission. But in order to get it they need proof yeah so they set up cameras everywhere and bells on the door bells on the doors like um cameras set up to like motion detect if somebody's walking by it really feels like once you have proof it's too late so true that doesn't seem like an accurate workflow or efficient workflow to me. And then Lorraine is for some reason doing

laundry at the house. Oh yeah. Wait does anything happen that first night? I don't think so. I think maybe it's a fake fake out. I think so. The door opens. The cellar door opens. Oh and they go down and nothing happens.

It's kind of like found footage and you can only hear what's through his mic, which was cool. But then, yeah, nothing really happens. And the clocks don't stop at 3.07. Yes, because they're all there up at 3.07. I see what you're up to. Yeah, we get it. So it keeps going and so

the cop is like, told you. Yeah, I think this is all bullshit. And they. Yeah, we get it. So it keeps going. And so the cop is like, The cop is like, told you. Yeah. Yeah, I think this is all bullshit. And they're like, okay, whatever. And then... Next day. Next day, they're having pancakes. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Having a good time. Having a nice morning. They have their first good night's sleep in a while. The kids are so happy that they're there. Yeah, everybody's just like, thank goodness you're here. We're happy. Things are back to normal.

Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, Lorraine is doing laundry. Hanging up. Blew my mind. Hanging up laundry outside on those little things. Clothesline. Clothesline.

Thank you. And like Ed comes out and they like canoodle a little bit and she's like awesome like yeah we gotta help him ed okay we will and then ed leaves and then also um in an earlier scene this is a weird place to shoehorn it in but she had had a part with a scene with her daughter where her daughter had given her a necklace and has each of them have a necklace so her daughter has a necklace a little locket with a

photo of Ed and Lorraine and she's like and I got one for you with a photo of me yes and so Lorraine's wearing this locket with a photo of her daughter and her daughter Judy so sorry just popped into my mind. That'll come back. But okay, right now they're doing they're doing, she's hanging

the laundry on the clothesline. She's hanging all of their fucking sheets because there's eight of them and there's so many sets of sheets. Too many people! Yeah, so she's like doing laundry and then all of a sudden it gets really windy, like the clouds are rolling in. Well. I think Ed goes back

inside too. She's like by herself out there. And all the kids and the dad went to get ice cream so it's kind of just the three of the like her, Ed, and then the mom in the house and the mom was like feeling kind of shitty and was like I'm going to lay down because I haven't gotten

any good sleep. Get rest. We'll take care of everything. And so she's doing a lot. And rest we'll take care of everything and so she's doing a lot and so the winds blow in picking up and she's like yanking the sheets off putting them in the basket and then one white sheet fucking blows off

and gets caught on like a human form that we never saw it's one of the coolest human form that we never saw. It's one of the coolest scares ever. And it stays there for like a couple seconds. And then shoots off

and then blows away. It shoots up against the window of the mom's room. And then it shoots away from there and there's fucking nasty demon in pajama lady

standing in the window and then just slowly like she baths and then just slowly turns to her left and like walks on and Lorraine is just like oh god no and she like Caroline like

trying to get to her and then we cut to the what's going on with caroline and she's in bed and oh oh that's when we get the like fingerprint bruises appearing on her arm um like she's being squeezed on her arm and then she shoots up like screaming. Like her mouth open and then we get this very spooky shot of the demon coming into frame like floating above her

and she's disgusting and horrible looking. And then she like pukes blood into her something. It looks like she's like projectile vomiting blood into Caroline's mouth. Into her mouth. Oh no.

And so then like Lorraine is running up banging like Caroline hey what's going on what's going on and like banging on the door can't get in and she or does get in and Caroline's in the bathroom and she hears her just like like puking or retching whatever and she's like hey hey what puking or retching whatever and

she's like hey hey what's going on and then finally goes to a different door and Caroline opens it up looks fucking nuts I'm fine like I joke about that all the time she's like I'm fine

there's no demon in me wait what nobody asked you I'm fine I There's no demon in me. Wait, what? Nobody asked you. I am fine. I'm just being like, she looks like she got nailed by a demon. Yeah. She looks crazy and like comes out of the bathroom. She's like, I'm just, I wasn't, I just am not feeling very well. And I kind of want to be like Lorraine.

You saw the TV. Yeah. We should, we should have been aware. So Lorraine doesn't notice? She believes her? She looks a little suspicious, but is also like, okay, I guess nobody got hurt. And then I think it goes

to that night, and the cop hears something. Oh, yeah. This is the part where I was closing my eyes a little bit. Okay, okay. You're honest. oh yeah this is a part where i was closing my eyes a little a little bit okay okay honest like if you start with just like a classic is that a door opening banging or some some sort of noise and he's moving down the hall and oh it's the thing where he's looking out the window at

nighttime and so you can't see anything that's out there. It's just black and I'm always like something smashing through that window. Yes! I was very scared and he goes outside. There's like a creepy porch swing. Oh nasty. Nasty. It's all very slow and tense and creepy and

he nothing's out there and he comes back in and there's a maid and she's like showing her wrist yes i've been cut and so then he walks in and is like hello like who's there so yeah so she jumps out and is her wrists are slit and she's like chasing at him screaming look what she made me do look what she made me do and then he is freaking out yeah

and then all of the family hears that and runs in he's like I saw like a woman she was in a maid's outfit like oh and then so they have their like camera tripwires and so they're all in the like kitchen area And a camera goes off

And it's so loud as hell It's like the bulb Flash and you see the kid The sleepwalking daughter Walking by Nasty nightgowns Guys we're wearing shorts and t-shirts These flowing nightgowns We cannot have in our house anymore.

They're too creepy. We need to start a clothing line called Nasty Nightgowns. Nasty nighties. Ew. But so Ed and Lorraine immediately like start following and they're like, look on the camera, look on the camera, like see or the audio or whatever. And the parents are like, what are you talking about? Like, that's Cindy.

She just she sleeps. She sleepwalks. And they were like, she's not what triggered it. It was before her. She's with someone. And they're like, something's with her. And they're like watching her as she gets to the top. Go into the fucking

room with the wardrobe and as soon as she gets in boom the door slams and that's when everybody runs up they can't get into the door the dude is listening and he hears like can I show you like a little

spooky ghost voice going like I want to show you something or something like that yeah yeah yeah yeah want to see something something like that follow me something awful and then I think they eventually break the door open and

she's nowhere to be found oh she's nowhere that's right she's nowhere to be found it's ice cold like Like, now you can see their breath in this room. And the dad's like, where is she? Where is she, Ed? Where is she? And he's like, I don't know. And they're like,

get me the UV light because that will show where the footsteps went. And they go into the closet. And they go into the fucking wardrobe. No. And so he, like, opens it up and with the UV light sees a bunch of handprints on like a panel

in the wardrobe and so he's like turn the lights on and they open it up and there's a fucking hole in the wall there's like a false back and a little like hide hide away behind the wardrobe and sleepwalker Cindy is like curled up asleep in a nasty

nightgown it's horrifying yeah but she's alive she's alive she's totally fine didn't even really know what happened she's sleeping um they get her out and then april is like oh that's where rory goes to hide when he gets scared Emily's looking really upset isn't that fucking gross so then Lorraine's like give me your music box she goes into the

little crawl space yeah she has the music box and finds the place like um there's like a clear spot amongst a bunch of dust and other toys that clearly the music box fits into so it's like ew Lori gave that to the little girl

early on nasty yuck yuck yuck she finds a rope she finds like a yeah she's pulling up it's a fucking noose and she's like uh okay okay and then she falls through the wood

and goes through the walls into the basement, right? Down, falling all the way down into the basement. And they're like, Ed doesn't know where she went. And so he's like running around like banging on the walls. She's screaming. And he's like,

Lorraine, Lorraine. Yes. And she's like down in the walls she's screaming and he's like all right lorraine yes and um she's like down in the dark in the basement like terrified with the music box i feel she must hear crying or something right yeah maybe she hears some crying pops open the music box being like okay i'll be able to see what's going on yeah nastyasty, nasty. She's looking around. She's looking around and holy shit, she sees this woman. Big woman holding a dead kid. Rory.

Rory. Oh no. Our boy Rory. With a bloody knife. Yes. And she says look what she made me do. And this is all in through the mirror behind her. And then the music like stops

and she closes the music box and that lady's right there going, look what she made me do. And it's so fucking scary. So then Lorraine freaks out and then hears like that creaking of the

rope in the tree. Like somebody's hanging and like puts her flashlight up and sees the nasty witch feet. And kind of swaying kind of swaying at first. And then they stop moving completely. Like the swaying stops

and fucking turn towards her. And then like the swain stops and fucking turn towards her and then fucking go flying at her and i think she then figures out oh fuck i'm in the basement i can run up and get the fuck out of here yeah and so she runs up and like everyone's freak commotion commotion in the living room yes um everyone's freaking out and all the fucking crosses start falling all the crosses fall off the shelves and um i think christine is like nancy and her hair starts like a piece of her hair starts lifting off of her head and then she is just pulled thrown through the air smashes into like the

the wall and bookshelf and is then being dragged across the house. And like everybody's trying to get her and she keeps just getting pulled away from people and then finally finally Vera gets some big old scissors and is just like

yeah cuts her hair and they look over and the some big old scissors and is just like Yeah, cuts her hair. Cuts her hair and they look over and the dude was filming it and they're like, did you get that? He's like, I got it. I think we've got some proof. Time for an exorcism, baby. Time for an exorcism. And then I think it's a cut to them all

leaving the house, like everybody getting out of there. Oh, first Lorraine is like out at the waterfront again and she sees her daughter in the water. And it's terrifying. And it's really spooky. It's really spooky. And she like, it tries to like grab her and then it disappears.

Oh yeah, and when she was in the basement real quick, something was trying to hold her back by grabbing her necklace that her daughter gave her and it ripped off. So now the demon knows what her daughter is. There it is. There it is. Yep. Yep.

So it's got the necklace and she says to Ed it's a warning. Something is going to happen. And then yeah they're all like let's get out of the house. Stay in a warning. Something is going to happen. We gotta go. And then, yeah, they're all like, let's get out of the house, stay in a motel for now. Because we have to perform an exorcism. Yes. This is too nuts.

So they all kind of go their own ways. Family hotel and their helpers are with them. And then Ed and Lorraine go to talk to a priest. To talk to a priest. And they're showing the evidence and they're like, this is the craziest case we've ever seen. And the priest is like, yeah, this is pretty crazy and I'll

essentially put a rush order on it. Yeah, to the Pope. Rush order to the Pope. I'll get the Pope. I'll hit him up. Then we get a Judy. Yes. Ed and Lorraine are on their way home. Driving home. But then but then yeah Judy's

asleep in bed I think she gets the foot I think she gets a foot situation and before that her necklace is hanging right next to her bed and it starts fucking moving and then boom foot pole and she's like what the what is this

yeah and she gets up and is like walking around like mom dad like grandma Nana's asleep and she's like what the what is this yeah and she gets up and is like walking around like mom dad grandma Nana's asleep yeah she's like kind of snooping around like just kind of like dad something has to be going on and um she makes her way down a very creepy

hallway she goes into the conduit room the door is open I think she just opened it. And the Annabelle doll is missing. It's not in its locked glass. Annabelle's gone and so she's like, what's going on?

Starts to make her way up back through the hallway, which is like stairs and then a hallway. And oh, this is really cool. It just starts like the big noise starts happening and then just this darkness comes down

and she starts freaking out and she runs to a room at the end of the hall and slams the door and she's in there she's in like an office or whatever an office yeah fucking A there's a rocking chair rocking back and forth. She hears the old

creaking. And guess who's brushing Annabelle's hair? Shebeth! Whatever the fucking witch's name is. She's rocking and brushing her hair. Yes, yes, yes. And Annabelle's head does the old

exorcist 360 turns to look at her And Judy's freaking out Screaming slamming the door Lorraine gets like a vibe And she's like Ed something's wrong we have To go fast get home fast It's like raining and scary to drive

In Nana wakes up She's like Judy She can't get the door open So they're just Judy's a funny name to have to scream. Judy! Judy! Judy! Judy! Judy!

So Nana's trying, Ed and Lorraine fucking pull up and she's like we got something is wrong. I think they just run in and run down to the door and Nana can't open it and so they run in and they're like I think he like kicks it in. He's trying to break it down. He's like get away from the door and Nana can't open it and so they run in and they're like I think he like kicks it in he's trying to break it down he's like get away from the door and like as this is happening the rocking

chair is like swiveling on its own to like face Judy and then as he like busts the door down the rocking chair like flies at him or at the door and like shatters and he like covers Judy and protects her from it and it's

just like just crazy and she was like I saw Annabelle and they're like what the fuck and so Ed goes down to that conduit room and Annabelle is in the case yep

but this shit just got personal so now they're really like we gotta fucking we gotta do this exorcism we gotta do this exorcism they get a call yes from roger being like hey my wife left and took the two took the youngest kid and uh christine it's um uh april and christine and she's got the two youngest and it has this very creepy shot of like her in the front seat of the car and them in the back seat and they like look scared and she's kind of like blank faced and they're like

where are we going mommy and she's like we're going back to the house. Something that Lorraine has figured out at this time that she like yells is she possesses the mother to kill the child. She possesses because mother to kill the child she possesses because she saw

in the basement in the basement she saw the mother she's going to kill those kids yeah and so they all rush to the house but the cop and that other dude are there and the husband are all there

and they're in the fucking basement. And she's got scissors. And she's like holding them up to Christine's neck. As like little April's watching. Right. And they're like holding her back. It's just commotion and craziness. And she's just like.

Like full on. She Beth is in her. Like she looks nuts. Yeah. And they're like trying to get her away eyes bulging yeah she looks crazy she's so good too she's so good

and so they finally rip her away from the girl and they're like they take Christine who was like right there with scissors in her neck and Drew is like stay in the car I gotta go find April because he couldn't find the youngest one. And I think Ed is like, I'm going to have to perform the exorcism because this is an emergency and we don't have time to wait for this.

The Vatican's approval. Yeah. He's like, even though I'm not ordained. I'm not ordained. I can do this. And so they're like, OK, let's do this. Exorcism. And so they're like, OK, let's do this exorcism.

And they kind of like wrangle Carolyn into a chair and like strap her down. And they throw a sheet over her to help. Yeah, it's so nasty. And so they strap her down in this chair. And it's just crazy. Like the sound is like everything's loud. She's screaming. Everything's shaking. Everything's shaking.

It's just craziness. He starts reading stuff and throwing holy water on her. And it's like, ow, stings her or whatever. Starts speaking in Latin or whatever. And she has a crazy voice, like crazy she-beth voice. Like, uh. Oh, and as this is happening, the other dude is looking for April, the little girl. And he's like running all over as birds are flying in the house.

He's like, April, where are you? He then hears crying. In like the floorboards. In the floorboards in the kitchen. So he starts bashing it in, bashing it in. And then back to the exorcism. Carolyn starts like vomiting blood into the sheet. So the sheet is just starting to get red and nasty. And then it gets quiet.

It gets silent. Completely silent. And they're all just kind of like, what do we... That's also very scary. Did we do it? And she's just sitting there, and there's a long shot on just her feet and the legs of the chair,

and then it slowly starts rising. She starts floating. And she starts fucking floating. I'm getting chills. It's a really horrifying vision. And so she's like floating. And then she turns upside down. Yes.

And they're like yelling like, let her go, let her go, let her go. And then it falls. It falls and she drops. And so the chair like smashes. So she's free yeah and like stuff starts like intentionally trying to kill people like so a big oh the bookshelf bookshelf almost takes out ed a fucking shotgun like oh my god i forgot the shotgun cocks itself and then like falls and shoots towards them yes yes. Yes. She's like laughing. It's like, ah, yeah.

Drew has found the kid and is like, hey, she's in the floorboards or like in the crawlspace underneath. Oh, right. He like announces it and she hears it and she hears that and fucking breaks away. But she grabs the scissors. She grabs the scissors and scurries into the wall and she just goes and other people are like following her and so then she gets

to like little April nobody's been able to like get her out yet because it's like just such a small crawl space and she's able to make her way in and she has like the kind of us looking scissors yeah yeah yeah and she's like trying to stab him and everybody's like,

like Ed's saying stuff from the Bible and also like to the husband being like, remind her who she is. Like she hasn't been taken or whatever. And Lorraine's like grabbing her head. And Lorraine is above in the kitchen, like looking down at her and putting her hand on her forehead

and being like, remember who you are. Essentially, she had they had looked at a photo earlier of them all, like the whole family on the beach. And she's like, remember that day on the beach? Like, remember? And you see like Carolyn, like having like flashbacks, struggling and freaking out and like, no, but yes, I don't know.

And like, these are your fate. Like you live for these kids all this stuff. Yeah. And she's like struggling really hard. I think they like say something like there's only so much we can do like she has to fight this battle internally. And there's like

really nice music. And so there's like a moment where you see her kind of become herself again. Yeah. she's had a crazy demon face this whole time. Screaming and then puking out that demon. Oh right she pukes. Yeah. She pukes

out the demon. Like just black stuff where she's just like get it out of her and then it kind of still looks weird and they're still in the crawl space. They're still in the crawl space yeah and like April witnessed all of that. I was gonna say and then it kind of still looks weird and they're still in the crawl space they're still in the crawl space yeah and like April witnessed all of it I was gonna say and then she turns to like tiny scared little

April and is like I'm so sorry she's like I'm sorry I'm sorry she's like dude April's gonna need a lot of therapy if I was April and Christine I would constantly be like I'm not doing my homework remember that time you tried to fucking kill me what time is curfew

um mom i think i'll make the curve i think i can handle myself but you're just so like i'm so sorry so then um it shows them like her in a blanket the kids all hugging and stuff and And then we see Ed and Lorraine like hugging and being like we did it. Yeah, I think they helped them. They did it. And the dad gives Ed like a thumbs up and a nod.

Seems like a thumbs up kind of moment. Yeah, yeah. Ed, cool. Cool what you did. Good job. Feels like the end of Remember the Titans. Like two eyes across the room. cool cool what you did good job feels like the end of like remember the titans like two eyes across the room

yeah it does kind of like and the music's very like triumphant and stuff and it's kind of like a nod like mmhmm we did it uh oh and then we cut to um ed carrying the music box it in. Oh, and then we cut to Ed

carrying the music box and placing it in the conduit room. Correct. It starts playing. It pops open and starts playing. And then it's just a big boom, blackout

conjuring. That's the movie! Wow. It's a movie! Wow. It's really good and scary. Did you guys get scared? Remember when I screamed? Emily, honestly, I could watch her

like her brain kind of tap out throughout. I could watch her slowly be like, I'm just gonna... Not gonna imagine that. Not gonna let to not. Not going to imagine that. Not going to let that affect me. Not going to imagine that. Okay.

I really like, I can't even, I can't even imagine how anyone can watch this movie. It's very scary. I don't understand. It's fucking scary. I couldn't even watch the trailer. I don't understand. I'm in awe. It was hard.

It was really hard. Oh, it's the best. Oh, The Conjuring though, you guys. I think I honestly want to see in awe. It was hard. It was really hard. Oh, the conjuring though, you guys. I honestly want to see this one. Oh my god. This is one that I want to see. This is one that I actually want to see. Yeah. I do not want to see any of the previous

movies we did. You said you want to see 28 Days Later. I do want to see 28 Days Later. But including The Lighthouse, which I did see. I want to see The Lighthouse again see I want to see the lighthouse again I want to see it chapter 2 I never ever ever ever want to see this ever

maybe someday I can work myself up to the trailer honestly I couldn't watch the trailer I was too scared do you guys have a scariest part what are you going to dream about what fucked you up the most mine is that leg pull scene have a scariest part? What are you going to dream about tonight? Mine is that leg pull scene and him or the

demon behind the door. It's so good and scary. That's probably for me too. That was when I was on the edge of crazy scared. You know what I don't like at all? I don't like the hands that clap. I really I't like the hands that clap i i really yeah yeah i think the night hands that clap one might be my favorite or that just straight up the sheet dude oh the

and it was one of those she was good too i remember in the it blew my mind i was like that's an innovative idea that is such a very cool It's so cool At least watch that scare I don't know Come on Just as a GIF Just like I could watch the one little Pennywise waving the severed

I could watch a GIF of that one moment It was funny Okay we have to promise If any of us wake up at 3.07. Are you fucking kidding me? I'm calling you. Yes, you call me. I'll be like, I'm not doing that alone.

You call me. I'm not doing that alone if that's what happens to me. You call me and you wake me up at 3.07. That would freak me out. If I wake up in the middle of the night, there's no way in hell I'm checking the time. If I do wake up in the middle of the night tonight,'s no way in hell I'm checking the time. Okay. If I do wake up in the middle of the night tonight, I'm like, yeah, just don't. Just don't look.

Just don't look. Betsy, this is the most fun, and I'm not trying to rush you out, but you got a show. Oh, shit. I got a new show. Thanks for having me. Betsy, thank you so much for coming out with you. I can't wait to see if it works or not. If it works, we'll see. It looks like it's see. It looks good.

But I mean, wait, maybe we'll listen back and your audio will be gone. Oh, my God. I'll shoot my fans. You have to play it. You have to post it, even if that's just for proof. Just for proof that there's a demon in our lives. We need a demonologist. For the Vatican.

For the old Vatican. Oh, it's October 30th when this comes out. So, happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Go get spooked. Scary. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween.

Spooky. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Wow. We made it through October, a very spooky month. And this is Sammy, by the way. And we didn't talk about it, but The Conjuring is my personal scariest movie. I guess you could tell that I was pretty scared, but forcing myself to watch it again and then talk about it with

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