Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE CRAFT

Episode Date: July 22, 2020

Trendsetting witches, a deity named after a french woman from The Great British Baking Show, and somewhere between 3,000 and 10,000 snakes - we're recapping 90s teen horror The Craft! Join us... as we search for the fourth member of our coven. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scared, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm Emily and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm
Starting point is 00:00:31 Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. Energy is high. Henley's got her coffee. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies and I like telling these two about them. Oh, we love it.
Starting point is 00:00:46 What's up with us? It's a new week. What's up? I feel like I had something to say. Oh, I do. I ordered a bidet. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, it's big news.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Did you guys know about which Sammy is really? It's purely because of Sammy. If you've been a listener, you know that Sammy loves bidets if you're a friend of Sammy's you know that she loves bidets and I've I've always been intimidated I truly the amount of like home purchases I have made in quarantine I guess it makes sense I've been in my own home for four months just here. But it got me four months in to figure out a bidet. I'm intimidated, but I'm ready to take it on.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah, you're not going to regret this. I promise you. In fact, you're going to get angry whenever you have to poop anywhere other than your house. It's going to feel barbaric using regular toilet paper on a dry butt wow it's gonna feel barbaric um i might have to force uh my boyfriend to get a bidet it's the only other place i go so i might have to be like now you got this and this is our lives now i think everyone should have them normalized bidets They're not weird. They're amazing. Normalize them. And very European. They're very European.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And I mean, make such an environmental impact. I mean, it's win-win all around. There's literally no downside to bidets. Anyway, I'm really excited about it. I'm really happy for you. Yeah, I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. What about you, Henley?
Starting point is 00:02:24 I just have a recommendation this week keeping up with a theme where I've been watching Michaela Cole's I May Destroy You that new show on HBO Max have you guys seen it? So good no I don't know it
Starting point is 00:02:39 so good and the thing I want to say about it is that it's been messaged as um like a tv show that explores her sexual assault which is true but when you read that i think that like i was like i do not want to watch that that sounds hard to watch um especially in this moment where everything is hard uh yes but it's so beautifully done and it's a comedy and it's like it's it's very it's very um i don't know it it doesn't like it doesn't it doesn't make you sit in in anything that is is really uncomfortable um i disagree very real. I disagree hard.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I actually, there was a time when I had to watch a horror movie for this podcast and I actually, I usually like to watch a palate cleanser after a horror movie and I had an I May Destroy You and I was like,
Starting point is 00:03:42 no, I May Destroy You's got to come first and the horror movie's going to be the palate cleanser. I find it really upsetting, but like really fucking good. I mean, just explores like every kind of rape. And it's I think it's really intense. I mean, it's great. Well, but it does sit with me afterwards. Personally.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah. OK, that's fair. I guess maybe my point isn't being clear. I'm not being clear enough. Like, when I hear that it's a story about sexual assault, I assume that the entire... And it does focus on that. Right, right, right. But the tone isn't what you would think.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yes, yes. And it also comes out from such an honest perspective that's like so refreshing it's not like the typical like rape story that's just like yeah awful and like really hard to watch this woman created it and it's about her personal I feel like that
Starting point is 00:04:38 is exactly the reason why like I can't almost nobody wants to be viewed as a victim right like there's like a you know a way of reclaiming that narrative and telling it in your own way that would i think be really empowering not having seen it but it's great and i mean yeah i know what you're trying to say henley just like don't let that be a deterrent to not watch it because it's it's like it's a lot more than that it's a lot more than that and i I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with her. So yeah, she
Starting point is 00:05:06 is rad. That's that's all my that's all my thing for this week. Love it. Great. Well, another thing happening this week is that it is our dear Silent Jenna's birthday tomorrow. Well, when you're listening to this, listeners,
Starting point is 00:05:22 it will be have been the last weeks. But either way, wish Silent Jenna happy birthday. Oh, we love Silent Jenna so much. She is not with us today, but I think you could call her the fourth member of our coven. She is. And we need the four corners, as I've learned. Very important. She's water, right? For four corners, as I've learned. Absolutely. Very important. She's water, right?
Starting point is 00:05:47 For sure, she's water. Yes. Oh, my gosh. And listeners, an interesting fact for you guys. Each of us, the four of us, including Silent Jenna, are a different element in our sign. Yeah. So Jenna is a Cancer. She's water.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I am a Gemini. So I'm air. Henley is a Capricorn. She's earth. Andily is an aries she's fire so we're witches we're in a coven we're witches we're witches we're in a coven it's done it's decided that is cool though that's a cool fact it's fun i was pretty excited when i when i thought about that do you think we can be witches over zoom do you think the power can still translate over the internet um I think so I think if we if we really focus
Starting point is 00:06:36 I think yeah I think because it's about your energies coming together right which is like they're all out in this ether anyway we're just gonna have to practice harder we're just gonna have to we're gonna have to be witches even harder that's what it means which brings us to this week's movie guys and it is the craft um it came out in 1996 it was directed by andrew fleming written by peter filardi and andrew fleming starring robin tunney faruja balk neve excuse me neve nev campbell rachel true ski orit christine taylor and breckenmeyer what an all-star cast. What a 90s fucking cast that is, man.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Very 90s. And had you guys seen this movie before? People have seen this movie, right? No, I've never seen it. You guys haven't seen it? I have not. No, I've never seen it. I think if I had honestly... And we decided it's not too scary.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I mean, come on, if I can say that, it's not scary. But I do think if I had seen it as a kid, I would have been scared. It's definitely aiming to be scary. It definitely thinks it's scary at times. I think at a point in my life that would have been enough to convince me. Right, right. That it is scary. Yeah, I'd say the scariest thing is the bugs and
Starting point is 00:08:06 snakes. Bugs and snakes. Pretty bad. I was trying to think about this too because in 1996 there was also just such a different representation of what was like cool and in and I feel like a lot of it was
Starting point is 00:08:21 very preppy and blonde and all of that and their style is very different from that. These four girls are the main characters. But now that's the style. Like literally they're wearing clothes that are cool right now. Yes. Everything that they're wearing you could buy now at Urban Outfitters as a 19 year old and be like, yeah, this is my outfit and it's cool. as a 19 year old and be like yeah this is my outfit and it's cool
Starting point is 00:08:43 so it's interesting that they're supposed to be like rebels and not you know going against the fray and now that is literally they get called yeah it's literally the style of today um I don't know I was
Starting point is 00:08:59 inspired yeah they're hot and they're cool and we immediately upon watching it text each saying, let's be witches now. We're all witches. Let's be witches now. Which is, I think, how it always starts. Let's be witches now. We decided.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Which I guess is not necessarily the moral of this movie. Is there a moral of this movie? I don't know. It's fun. I will say, like, it's definitely... I, like, this movie i don't know i it's fun i will say like it's definitely i like enjoyed watching it i also think it's bad um is that gonna be yeah i'll save some of my thoughts for the end but i was like having fun and i did see this movie as i guess not a kid but probably like a preteen um not like right when it came out but I definitely
Starting point is 00:09:46 remember going to slumber parties and doing light as a feather stiff as a board and um I remember liking this movie and I definitely hadn't seen it in 15 to 20 years and watching it again, I was like, Oh, it's not, it's not good. I think also I could have not having not seen it and knowing how many like peers of ours, like women who grew up around our same time, love the craft and like have this connection to it. I was sort of, and it's like four women and
Starting point is 00:10:25 there are witches yeah i was expecting to feel a certain way about it and i was like oh i feel the opposite way like it but also i had to remember it was made 25 years ago and things are different yeah and i mean it is cool just the again we say this a lot with a lot of the movies that we talk about. I feel like the first half was way more fun than the second half. I was like, fuck, yeah, here we go. And then things really fell apart for me. like these women that feel powerless and rejected um like gaining their power is fucking cool but it could have really done more with that i thought and it kind of could have really i would love to i mean i think there are things like this now but like oh i want i want the craft now and i want it to be written by women. Yeah. Because that was another thing. It's another one of those movies where pretty early on I was like, was this written by a woman?
Starting point is 00:11:30 I looked it up and was like, yeah, no, I didn't think so. By the ending, you can definitely tell it's not written by a woman. The ending's pretty, yeah, I will say it becomes clearer and clearer the point of view of this movie. But also, like, it's just so it's also silly and kind of fun I really liked it I honestly really really enjoyed it
Starting point is 00:11:51 and I think it's because I went in with really low expectations I mean I thought that it was going to be honestly even worse than it was because of everything that I did there we go I really it is it's just it's just fun and it's just aesthetically fun and it's like yeah the aesthetics are great and and i
Starting point is 00:12:16 also i don't expect a 1996 like horror movie to be doing a lot of work when it comes to actually talking about what it's like to be a woman i don't know i kind of like left that at the door i was like this isn't gonna be that true that was the right way to approach yeah that was correct what you did but it's still it's still like i don't know It's not not a feminist. Yeah. I mean, I think for its time, it was fucking cool. Like it was like all like focused on a group of girls and female friendship and like all of their personal problems. Like the setup is really cool. And just having them as the main characters is cool.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And I bet at the time yeah i mean the only men we really see are like the or skeet and brecken for like a minute and her dad and that's like pretty much right like it's yeah right but there are some there are some things that we'll touch on as we get there that i was like um man yeah but it on but it also and it was like an opportunity for these like young actresses to do a cool movie where it was like, yeah, I definitely it's not like bad. It's not. It is bad, but it's not like that. Welcome back to Cocktail Hour.
Starting point is 00:13:35 This week's cocktail is the Witchy Woman. this drink you're going to need one and a half ounces of Campari, one ounce of orange juice, one ounce extra dry white rum, half an ounce lime juice, half an ounce orgeat syrup. Sorry, I don't really know how to pronounce that. I'm winging it. One dash of Angostura bitters. You will combine all ingredients in a cocktail shaker with ice and shake well, strain into a cocktail glass, and garnish with an orange slice. I had all these ingredients, so I made this drink, and it is truly delightful. It's like a witchy tiki drink. What could be better? If you don't have those ingredients on hand and still want to stay on theme, you could always drink the blood of your sisters, which I believe is just red wine
Starting point is 00:14:25 and a little bit of blood from a finger prick of your closest friends. Cheers. Is it time for trivia yet? It's time, I think. Let's do it. So there's a cool, you know, they call it an oral history on Entertainment Weekly for the craft. That's fun to read where they interview the writer and the director and the actresses. I guess it came out in like 2015 or something or when they did this. Looking back on it, and one interesting thing that is in that article is that the
Starting point is 00:15:02 director is talking about how they were trying to get it to be a PG-13 rating. And it was supposed to be PG-13, but they came back and said that it was R because it was devil worship. It's man on worship. Okay. Let's be clear. They were like, we specifically say in the film that it's not devil worship. It's not devil worship. That's a line in the movie. And they think the real reason that they came back and said that it was R, in addition to people having fears about devil worship, is that they talk about suicide so bluntly. And in the 90s, that was just not accepted in the way that it's more commonly accepted commonly accepted now um to discuss openly right so wow i did not realize it was rated r it is not it should not be rated it's like absolutely not a rated r
Starting point is 00:15:54 movie um so we just we sort of just brought it up but so they they worship man on this deity man on um which the whole time i was watching i don't know if you guys are super familiar with Great British Baking Show. Oh, yeah. It's my favorite thing to put on. And there was a baker in one of the more recent seasons, this beautiful French woman named Manon. And that's all I could think of the whole time was like, oh, Manon, Manon. And in the trivia, there is a trivia about how Manon is a French woman's name. And they just like made up that this TV was named Manon, but it's spelled the same.
Starting point is 00:16:32 It is Manon, which is just really interesting to me. Yeah, it's probably her. It's probably her. And she's lovely. I remember I did watch that season. I liked her. Yeah, she's great. I did watch that season.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I liked her. Yeah, she's great. I was going to point out that this is Nev and Skeet's second film that came out in 96. Big year for them. Scream being the other, obviously. Some casting what-ifs I saw that are fun is Sarah, the role of Sarah, our main character, who is played by Robin Tunney. They considered Angelina Jolie and
Starting point is 00:17:07 Alicia Silverstone for the part. And then, last little bit of trivia that is horrifying, and we will talk about this, is maybe the scariest part of the movie. One scene involved using over 3,000 snakes. Yikes. 3,000 snakes.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Too many snakes. Too many snakes. I don't even really have a problem with snakes in general. I don't have a problem with one. I don't have a huge problem with two. Three is pushing it. 3,000 get me the fuck out of there. That is way too many snakes.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Wait, you guys, I'm reading in this oral history. First, okay. Robin Tunney says the snakes were real. The rats were real. The maggots were real. I was in shock. They threw a rat on my head. I was completely freaked out.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Actors, right. And then Fleming, was he the, is he the director? Yes. He said, supposedly that was the record number of any kind of animal in one scene. The animal guy got 10,000 snakes that shot in the staircase. It was a weird night. Is he just exaggerating for this interview? It was a 3,000 or 10,000. 10,000 is insane.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Imagine, just close your eyes. Close your eyes and try to picture 10 000 snakes there's no way they could find 10 000 snakes on a staircase 10 000 no i refuse to believe that it was 10 000 that's what he says emily we have to take his word for it transport 10 000 snakes What vehicle do you use to bring 10,000 snakes? It's just like a 40-foot trailer that they open up and snakes just fall out of the back. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:53 we're talking about a difference of 7,000 snakes. I know, it's a big difference. It's a big difference. The word snakes makes no sense to me anymore. Oh, I hate when that happens. Okay, should we watch the trailer? Let's watch big difference. The word snakes makes no sense to me anymore. Oh, I hate when that happens. Okay, should we watch the trailer? Let's watch the trailer.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Why not? To the other kids at St. Bernard Academy, they were the girls who didn't belong. Whenever you do, stay away from them. Why? They're witches. But after years of being on the outside... Why'd you lie about me? I don't want to go out with you again.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Please, stop begging. It's pathetic. Four girls are about to discover the dark side. You ever heard of invoking the spirit? Black magic. Let's finish this war. Let's finish this war. We can make things happen. I this is it this is real the craft girls watch out for those weirdos we are the weirdos Wow. What a silly little trailer.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's so, so 90s. That trailer made it seem fun again. I was like, fuck yeah. It did include my favorite line from the whole movie at the end, which is, we're the weirdos, mister. Hell yeah. Also, I love how the tagline in this
Starting point is 00:20:22 is exercise your rights. Yeah. It was like, exercise your rights. It was like exercise your rights. Very good. I love it. Great copy. Great copywriters. I love it.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Great copy. And the voiceover in that trailer is so 90s. Whatever that song is, like what they're wearing. It's amazing. it's amazing it's amazing it's a smith's cover and it is the theme song for charmed and one other trivia is that they're like they're pretty suspicious that charmed is like a straight ripoff of this movie because the director andrew fleming wrote kind of a spin-off of this as a pilot script and submitted it to Warner Brothers. And they were super interested.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Oh, my God. They were super interested. And he even included, like, this will be the theme song, this Smith song. And they eventually turned it down. And then in 98, so two years later, came out with Charmed, which is with that same theme song. So pretty compelling evidence that it's a ripoff. Pretty compelling. One might say they could have worked just a tiny bit harder to cover their tracks.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Maybe just a different song would have been fine. Put a shadow of a doubt in there, but OK. It's a great song. Who can blame them? Who can blame? It's the only song that would work. All right, guys. Let's do it.
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Starting point is 00:25:03 Emily, you lead the way. Okay, we start off. We're looking at candles. We're looking at what looks like a snow globe, but it's probably a crystal ball. We see three women chanting, these three teens, holding each other's hands, eyes closed around a table, chanting, Now is the time. Now is the hour. Ours is the magic. And ours is the power. Now is the time time now is the hour ours is the magic and ours is the power now is the time
Starting point is 00:25:28 now is the hour ours is magic ours is power the craft and it has like all these quick cuts of like pentagram candles I don't even remember but it's just like witch witch witch witch
Starting point is 00:25:43 bam bam bam bam, bam, bam. This is what's happening. Yeah, the titles really made me laugh. And then there's the background of just the clouds, like the blue sky with the very white clouds. And I remember so badly as a kid, like, wanting
Starting point is 00:26:00 my room to have a cloud mural on it and thinking that was like the coolest thing you could possibly have and it was giving me a flashbacks to being a kid and thinking that clouds were like the coolest thing you could use clouds are so fucking cool clouds are so cool yes we do we see these clouds and it turns out we're up in a plane. We see this other teenage girl
Starting point is 00:26:30 who's on a plane with her parents. They fly into LAX where it's pouring rain. Excuse me? Come on now. When does that happen? It's a very damp Los Angeles I was noticing. It is an extremely damp Los Angeles. Took me right out of it. Yeah, me too. I was like is this Seattle?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Where are we? Um excuse me I also will say one of the fun things I love movie set in LA. I love being like that's LAX. I know it. I've been there. Oh they're in downtown? I'm familiar. Uh it really. I did. I did get excited right away too. I get so excited. Um
Starting point is 00:27:02 so they arrive in LAX get in a cab drive into their Beverly Hills home. Which is gorgeous. As they're driving. Gorgeous home. As they're driving, this girl briefly sees a big boa constrictor out the window on her drive. But that's fine. We keep going.
Starting point is 00:27:22 They come to their lovely Beverly Hills house. They really just move there. It's full of boxes. The roof is leaking. And they're like, oh, we're going to need to get this roof fixed. The girl unpacks. The only thing she unpacks is a framed photograph of a young woman. There's a knock at the door.
Starting point is 00:27:39 She opens it. And it's a stranger, someone she doesn't know. And he is holding a snake. And he is like I have this snake something like I have this snake for you or no I found this out back and she freaks out I mean she doesn't know this
Starting point is 00:27:54 man it's raining he's got a snake at her door does he know her name he's obviously supposed to be scary but it's done in a way that's very 90s and it's not actually scary at all she also falls back very dramatically like yeah she like she freaks out and screams for her dad and is like um and and the dad is like get out get out of our house it comes with a fire poker steps yeah and then like stomps on
Starting point is 00:28:21 the snake and kills the snake out of frame it It's a lot. It's a dramatic moment. She also doesn't react this way like throughout the rest of the movie. By the way, did we mention this is Robin Tunney? This is Robin Tunney's character. This is Robin Tunney. Her name is Sarah. Sarah. She is our protagonist.
Starting point is 00:28:38 FYI. FYI. So this is our introduction to her. The next day she starts at her high school. her introduction to her um the next day she starts at her high school um and as she's like getting she's at her locker start of the day these three girls the ones we saw in the opening sequence are walking down the hall and the pop the popular boys i would say it seems pretty clear they're the popular boys they say scary bitch alert as they walked on the hall and they glared each other and so we're getting some some tension here uh-huh um nev campbell's character whose name
Starting point is 00:29:13 is bonnie yes right she is reading an almanac um and she says that it says that they're they they're something is arriving today and she was like oh maybe it's our fourth person oh yes they kind of keep mentioning they need a fourth person we saw them doing some sort of witchcraft in the opening they need a fourth member of their
Starting point is 00:29:38 coven north, east, south, west, earth, air fire, water they need a fourth then we go to French class They need a fourth. Then we go to French class. All of them are in class together. The popular boys, the witches, Sarah. So Nev can't but Bonnie looks over at Sarah.
Starting point is 00:29:57 She's thinking like, oh, there's a new girl. Maybe this is our fourth. She sees Sarah balancing, like concentrating and having a pencil balance on its tip, like straight up on her desk. And it's clear she's like concentrating on it, she's making it happen, but sort of absentmindedly, Sarah sees Bonnie see her, the pencil falls, and she looks like a little spooked. But Bonnie is
Starting point is 00:30:18 clearly like, oh, okay, this bitch can do some shit. This is our fourth. This might be our fourth. But then she tries the next day of biology next and Sarah needs a table to do science at. You know how you used to have to
Starting point is 00:30:34 be at those tables? Choose a group. Those like concrete, those black whatever tables in science classes. Anyway. Each take turns looking into your microscope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of you's writing down what you see you know you're all doing it she tries to join the witches
Starting point is 00:30:50 Sarah's like oh hey you know I need a table can I join you guys and this is where so the three witches we've got Bonnie who's Neve Campbell we have Nancy who's sort of our main she's a bit of the leader of the crew.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Karuja Balk. Karuja Balk. She's the most like goth looking, constantly wearing patent leather. Patent leather, all black, short, sort of spiky pixie eyeliner of complete circle around her eye. The dark purple lipstick. Ooh, it's such a look. It's like lip liner. She always has
Starting point is 00:31:27 big crosses in there. Silver crosses. Cross jewelry. That patent leather trench coat is a real look. Honestly, you guys, I'm going to wear this exclusively from here on out. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I love it. I don't know if I I can't wait. I love it. I don't know if I've mentioned it, but I love it. But Henley loves it. And then we have Rochelle, who is played by Rachel True. So that is our... So that is our three. This is our coven, our witches. So Sarah approaches them and is like, hey, can I be at your table?
Starting point is 00:32:01 And they sort of don't answer her. Nancy sort of glares at her and she goes like, oh, okay, I guess, I guess we're not friends. Later we go to lunch and Skeetle, which his character's name is Chris,
Starting point is 00:32:15 he comes up to Sarah. She's a new girl. He's like, oh, hey, because he and the popular boys were kind of being douchey in French class. And so he says, hey, you know, sorry, we were being, we were being douchey in French class. And so he says, hey, you know, sorry, we were being douchey.
Starting point is 00:32:27 That's not the words he says, but sorry, we were being douchey in French. And she's a little bit sharp with him. She's like, ugh, get out of here. And she says, sorry, people have been being really rude to me today. So I'm just, like, not here for it. And he says, who's been rude? And she points out the girls. And he goes, oh, steer clear of them they're
Starting point is 00:32:46 witches um she doesn't really question she just goes okay um and he says well you know if you want you can watch me at football practice later which she if you want if you want she rolls around and is like yeah right I won't do that
Starting point is 00:33:02 but then she shows up and watches him at football practice um and the witches show up If you want. If you want. She rolls around and is like, yeah, right. I won't do that. But then she shows up and watches him at football practice. And the witches show up. And they apologize for being rude. Nancy tells her to avoid Chris. He gives people diseases. I should know. I was like, oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Okay. Yikes. Yeah, it's a huge, huge reveal. Sorry it was rude. Nice to meet you. This guy gave me an STD. Anyway, do you want to come shopping? Come shopping.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Shopping. We're going to get a five-finger discount. Another super 90s that we're going to get the five-finger discount. As they're walking to go shopping, one of them notices that Sarah has some scars on her wrist. Vertical scars up her wrist from having slit her wrist at some point. Attempted to commit suicide. Yeah, it's Bonnie.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Bonnie notices. And Bonnie says, oh, you did it right. You did it the right way. Yeah, you did it the right way. Yeah. And she says like, oh, yeah. Basically is like, yeah yeah i tried to get myself anyway yep didn't work here i am i wanted to die um we don't really get much more than that but
Starting point is 00:34:13 nancy's kind of like punk rock like yeah let's go shopping hell yeah fuck yeah yeah you slit your wrist the right way i love that about you um they go into this magic shop this like very there's like kind of like occulty yeah like wiccan and honestly honestly every shop in la is like this every shop is this is we're talking your house of intuition we're talking like you've been here you've seen there's incense there's crystals some like warm hued fabrics we probably got a Himalayan salt lamp somewhere you know it you've seen it so they're wandering around this little
Starting point is 00:34:55 magic shop Bonnie hands Sarah like a diary type book and tries to get her to steal it Sarah says I have a diary I don't tries to get her to steal it. Sarah says, I have a diary. I don't need to steal this. So Sarah like tries to walk in past a curtain into this back room and the shopkeeper stops her and she looks at her and she says,
Starting point is 00:35:16 Ooh, you are, have you studied witchcraft before? And she says, no, I haven't. She goes, Oh,
Starting point is 00:35:22 see, you're a natural. I can't do that. It's something. It's something. Your power comes from within. she says no i haven't she goes oh see you're a natural i can't do relax i don't know what it is it's something it's something your power comes from within your power comes from within i don't know she's probably like spanish or something whatever um she says she's a natural witch like oh so you're a natural witch and sarah does not disagree so sarah has has some powers she also points out her ring that she's wearing.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And she's like, oh. Oh, yeah, she's like, that was your mother's. Yeah, she goes, doesn't she say your mother was a witch? Doesn't she say that to her in this scene? She says it at some point. If it's not this scene, it's another scene. So, sure. So, yeah. So she buys the stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:01 They start walking in. And this is the part I love where I was like, this is downtown. I know it. Look at that. I know exactly where they are. How fun. They're walking down in downtown LA. At night she sees the same strange
Starting point is 00:36:15 man again who came to her door with another snake. The dude loves snakes. This is one of the 10,000. One of the aforementionedmentioned 10 000 snakes um he starts following her and running after her and saying i think this is now where he says her name he's like sarah i had a dream that you died and is just like freaking her out she starts running all the girls start running he runs out into the road to try to follow after her all the four girls like turn
Starting point is 00:36:46 and direct their attention at him and he gets hit by a car and run over by like several cars yeah it's kind of um it's a it's a little graphic uh yeah he gets he gets big time big time hit by a car several cars and the girls, they run away into the woods. Look, there are no woods next to downtown LA. No. There's no runnable distanced woods from where they were at. They were on Broadway. They were on Broadway by Clifton's.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And they ran into the woods. And this doesn't exist here. But, you know, let's give it to them. They run into the woods. They're freaking out. They run into the woods. Sure. They're freaking out. They are so excited. They're saying, oh, my gosh, we made him get hit by a car. We did that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 All four of them are saying they're so pumped. Oh, my God. We just fucking killed that dude. Hell yeah. They're like looking at each other and going, did you like did you think you wanted him to get hit by a car? Yeah, I was thinking it, too. Were you thinking it? Yeah, I was thinking it. Oh, my gosh. We made him get hit by a car? Yeah, I was thinking it too. Were you thinking it?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, I was thinking it. Oh my gosh, we made him get hit by a car. He was going to hurt you. He was after you. We did it. Our power. We're amazing. They're really pumped.
Starting point is 00:37:52 They're like, this is proof. Sarah's our fourth. We always needed a fourth. This is it. Our power is coming into being. This is where we learned that they worship man on the baker from the Great British Baking Show. learned that they worship man on the uh baker from the great british baking show um there my next note says they're horny for him they clearly are nancy especially is like
Starting point is 00:38:15 man on i want him like in me and and i like want to take in his power and they're like they describe really horny for him. They describe Manon. She says, is it God? Is it Satan? And she says, if God and Satan were playing a football game, Manon would be the football field and the sun shining down on them. Manon is everything. And yeah, they're like, ooh, give me that sweet, sweet Manon.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Ooh, give me that Manon. Here she makes a great cake. I'm never going to get over that. Okay. Stupid joke. Let's leave it behind. The next night, Sarah is out on a date with Chris. But Sarah, just at the end of that experience, she gets pissed at them because she feels like they're being a little power hungry and it's freaking her out.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And I can't remember exactly what someone says, but someone says something where they're like, he makes everything better. Manon makes everything better. And she's like, you can't, nothing can make everything better. And they're like, what's your problem? And she's like. Yeah, it becomes clear that, yeah, you're right, that Sarah has, I mean, we now sort of know if we didn't know for sure at the beginning. Her mom has died. And she tried to kill herself. So Sarah has dealt with some shit. And these girls are just horny for man on and don't fully maybe understand.
Starting point is 00:39:44 One thing that's admirable about Sarah is that she is not swayed by the people around her. When Bonnie tried to get her to steal and when she's very forthright and just like She knows herself.
Starting point is 00:39:59 She knows herself. Which is admirable. And fucking so rare in general, but especially in high school. Are you fucking kidding me as a new student in a high school? Oh my God. I barely know myself today as a 31
Starting point is 00:40:15 year old woman. How are you barely if my friends steal something, I would do it. Oh my God. You want me to worship man on what fine what does it take i'm in so then you see that she's kind of like started to date skeet all rich because she's she's like left behind the other group yeah which is like they didn't want her to date him but she's still doing it Look, we've talked in previous episodes about how hot Skeetle Rich is.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's hot. I will say this movie. Less hot. Less hot. Yeah. I agree. I agree. If I were to rank all the Skeetle Riches I've seen, this one's my least favorite.
Starting point is 00:40:58 But, you know, he's still hot in that. We can't deny it. We can't deny it. He says like, oh, you want to like get they're like sitting on a steel beam on like a building roof or something it's like they're they're like in the i don't know what they're doing they're hanging out they're making out then he says like oh do you want to like come back to my place and she says oh i have to i have to get home i can't and he sort of looks away and she goes, are you upset? And he looks
Starting point is 00:41:27 back and goes, no, no, no, no, it's fine. Just like really unconvincing. And the next day at school, the witches come up to Sarah and they're like, hey, so Chris is going around saying that you were the lousiest lay he's ever had and from him that's really saying something like he went from saying no no it's okay i'm not i'm not mad at you to the next day being like i fucked her and it was bad just because like as literal immediate retribution for her not sleeping with him it's crazy so sarah is fucking pissed and goes up to him and goes, why would you be telling those lies about me? Which also badass move to be like, hey, what the fuck? She confronts him.
Starting point is 00:42:10 She confronts him. He backs me and goes loudly and publicly. Oh, my gosh. I'm not going to date you anymore. Stop asking. It's pathetic. He is gaslighting. He's gaslighting for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Mark your bingos. Mark your bingos, man. It's happening. Cut to we see Rochelle is diving into the pool at school. They have a fucking dope. It's like a Beverly Hills private school, so it's nice facilities. They have like a tall ass diving board and she's getting ready to dive into the pool. Laura, who's a character we haven't really met yet who's um Christine Taylor that's her name
Starting point is 00:42:45 right yep um so she is like watching from the pool edge Rochelle trying to dive in laugh like giggling at her with her friends Rochelle lifts off to dive into the pool and Laura's like don't flop or something she yells shark oh that's right that's right. I should have remembered. I blocked it out. I hate sharks. She yells shark and so Bonnie sort of flops into the pool. In the locker room, Laura pulls a hair out of her brush, hairbrush and goes
Starting point is 00:43:16 ew, there's a pube in my hairbrush. Oh no way, it's just one of Rochelle's nappy hairs. And Rochelle comes to her and goes, hey, what's your fucking problem? And Laura goes, I don't even want to fucking say this. It's awful. But it's in the movie and it's part of the
Starting point is 00:43:32 point of the movie. Laura looks at her and goes, um, nothing. I just don't like negroids. Oh, it's so crazy. It's like when you hear it, you're like, whoa, what the fuck? It's fucking crazy um so in this moment we're sort of going through to each of these each of our our witches our main witches
Starting point is 00:43:53 their deals are so that's rochelle we sort of see her have this interaction with laura we go to bonnie and bonnie is at the uh hospital undergoing some sort of, like, gene therapy. We learned earlier Bonnie is covered in burns. We never learned why. She's covered in these really intense burn scars, sort of all over her arms and back. It's known. Like, people at school know that she's, like, covered in scars. I think Chris or, you know, Skeetle, which is character mentioned it earlier,
Starting point is 00:44:25 like gross scar girl. I don't know. So she's undergoing this gene therapy and it's really painful. She's having needles poked into her back and that it's not nice. It's sad for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:39 We go to Sarah, who is having a dream. She's sleeping, having a dream about sl's sleeping, she's having a dream about slitting her wrists. That's also not great. Nancy comes home to like a trailer, it seems, where her
Starting point is 00:44:56 mom and, we learn, stepdad are just sort of fighting and being shitty, and she sort of blocks herself in her room to not have to hear them, and's like not not a great environment um the next day at school the four girls get on a city bus um to go on a little field trip and this is where my favorite line in the movie comes they get out they're all they look cool as hell they're wearing like these sort of like long they're all wearing like cool as hell they're wearing like these sort of
Starting point is 00:45:25 like long they're all wearing like i guess nancy's wearing black but a couple others were like these like long floral sort of dresses with little sweaters and like these cool narrow colorful sunglasses that are buried in right now and like hats and they just look they all look like gg hadid every single one every single one and they get like Gigi Hadid. Every single one. And they get off the bus and as they're getting off the bus, again, a field, which is like not a city bus away from downtown Los Angeles. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Like, absolutely not. But they get off the bus and the bus driver says, watch out for those weirdos, girls, because they're like, you know, teenage girls. Girls, watch out for those weirdos. And Nancy pulls down her sunglasses and says, we are the weirdos, mister. And he doesn't know what to say to that. Looks a little weirded out and drives away.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So they go into a field. They've got a lovely little picnic set up. Pentagram in the middle of their situation on a little plank. Like you do. They have snacks. they've got wine um they each of them pricks their index finger uh so a little bit of blood comes out squeezes it into a big old goblet of wine and they all drink from it and they say each one by one they go I drink of my sisters
Starting point is 00:46:46 and and then they each sort of make like a what they wish for this proclamation yeah what they wish to happen for them in their lives um uh so let's start with Sarah hers is she has a
Starting point is 00:47:02 picture how does she have a picture already of Chris? Like a printed out like Walgreens printed disposable camera shot of Chris. She wants Chris to like her. I think this is when I already this is when I started having problems with the movie. Yes. Because I was like, why do you want Chris to like you? We've seen he is bad.
Starting point is 00:47:25 He is bad. And as we said, it's not even his hottest look. Exactly. That said, I guess maybe it's realistic because in high school you don't know yet. And you're like attracted to people who are big pieces of shit to you. So all of their things in this moment suck to me but i had a similar moment of being like well they're 16 and when you're 16 you care about boys and looking i mean fuck right now i care about boys and looking hot but it's like that's i it really bums me out in retrospect and watching
Starting point is 00:48:00 that like their main objectives with this power that they do have they are able to access power it is all about making them more attractive making their enemy girls less attractive and getting boys to like them um but yeah rochelle says i actually appreciated rochelle's but it didn't pan out in quite this way. But she says, she says like, give me strength to not hate my enemy basically as much as she hates me. Speaking about Laura, who is racist,
Starting point is 00:48:33 which is like not what ends up happening, but not what ends up happening at all. Bonnie wants her scars to go away. Essentially. Yeah. Bonnie, Bonnie, who is stunning
Starting point is 00:48:45 with the scars stunning and the thing is she it's fucking Neve Campbell who is so hot and gorgeous and is still like I mean Neve Campbell's gorgeous face and like it's not like you know how sometimes in movies I mean all the time movies they go
Starting point is 00:49:01 like look at this hot woman that we made ugly they don't even do that they just give her scars on her arms and back, which I'm sure as a teen would be mortifying. But she's still stunning and looks stunning. But she just she wants her scars to go away so she can be more confident in her looks, which, you know, that's fine. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. That's fine. So they all they're passing the goblet around. They're all taking just like one little sip it gets
Starting point is 00:49:25 around to Nancy she drinks the whole thing down which by the way we mentioned that it has all their blood in it right we said that it has all their blood in it and she also says I just want all the powers of man on and
Starting point is 00:49:41 she's horny for man on we already said it she's really horny for him so this is when i was like uh-oh uh-oh and we were already getting a little bit of like nancy uh-oh nancy sort of power hungry the rest of these girls are teenagers who want to be witches she has an intensity about her that the other ones don't quite seem to have um after they finish their ritual a whole big flock of butterflies comes down and flies around them and they all are going oh my gosh it's man on it's man on he's here with us it's working it's working um next day at school chris comes up to sarah and apologizes for his behavior and is really into her and starts following her
Starting point is 00:50:26 around and and they're really excited and she and rochelle are walking together and like oh god it's working as or she no she and bonnie are together and then nancy and uh rochelle are together and bonnie and they're her left like oh my god it's working it's working she gives him all her textbooks and goes like hey hold these textbooks for me and he does it she says hold bonnie's textbooks too and he does it right and she says come and sit next to us at mass because it's catholic high school she's just testing the limits testing limits they're all amazed that it's working um his friends breck and meyer looks over and was like what's going on like why are you doing what that girl says? We hate women. But it's working. Rochelle leans
Starting point is 00:51:07 over to Nancy in another pew and goes, oh my gosh, look, the spell's working. And Nancy does not look happy about it. We're getting very serious vibes that Nancy is jealous of Sarah because she clearly likes Chris even though he gave
Starting point is 00:51:26 her a disease. Also, I will say too there's a lot, I don't know if this happens now or later, but the other girls are very excited about the fact that Sarah is clearly very powerful and that including Sarah gave them their fourth.
Starting point is 00:51:42 They're very excited about Sarah. Yeah, Nancy is not thrilled at how much everybody loves Sarah and is clearly jealous that Chris is, I mean, due to a magical spell, into Sarah. Then we go to, yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:59 their house for a slumber party. It's Bonnie's house. They're having a little sleepover. Again, Nancy's wearing patent leather head to toe. As you do when you sleep. She's wearing patent leather pants. This is my sleep leather.
Starting point is 00:52:18 But this is, I think, probably the most famous scene from the movie. This is what I think of when I think of the craft. I think's um sarah right who is like have you guys ever played light as a feather stiff as a board and none of them have heard of it they're like what and she says you basically like put your finger underneath a person and imagine her as weightless like she weighs like a feather and you know through our envisioning it that way we'll
Starting point is 00:52:47 be able to lift her off the ground as if she was as light as a feather with only yeah two fingers each of us this reminds me it's it's different but we did at a family reunion a few years ago i don't remember how this fucking came up but there was like a really long you know those like extra long rulers yeah so there was one yardstick a yardstick know those like extra long rulers? Yeah. So there was one. Yardstick. A yardstick. Honestly, no, I don't, but sure. It's called a yardstick. Sammy is correct. It is called a yardstick. Oh, a yardstick.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Oh, yes. I do know what a yardstick is. Some of us called them extra long rulers because, you know. A big and tall ruler. A jumbo ruler, yeah. Big and tall. Big and tall. Big and tall ruler. We were at this house, my big and tall. Big and tall. Big and tall ruler. We were at this house, my family, and I think it was my uncle who was like, if everyone puts like a finger, like their two index fingers and we're all lined up on the side to like
Starting point is 00:53:35 lift up the ruler, but you have to keep it from tipping and you think, oh, that's so easy. There's a group of us. It's so fucking hard. It is so hard to keep the ruler straight that's interesting it's really anyway it's hard to work together try it it's hard to work together and like the lack of pressure anyway yeah so they do it and they they um rochelle is laying down and the other three are gathered around her with two fingers they're chanting light is a
Starting point is 00:54:06 feather stiff as a board light is a feather stiff as a board and she starts levitating off of the ground and they all kind of open their eyes and are like oh fuck this is working and then just then um whoever's house they're at mom opens the door. Bonnie's mom opens the door and is like, I have fresh towels for you girls. And Rochelle falls to the ground. And then they're just really laughing. This is exciting. Bonnie with each other,
Starting point is 00:54:37 sisterhood. The next day at school, Sarah walks past Laura, the racist bully in the hall. And as Sarah walks past Laura, the racist bully, in the hall. And as she walks past her, she yanks one of her hairs from her head. Then they braid it, I guess, sort of into Rochelle's hair. And Rochelle's talking about, you know. The deal is, nothing's going happen to laura unless she's
Starting point is 00:55:06 shitty to rochelle again yeah yeah yeah so wouldn't you know it laura bullies her again i mean come on people are gonna be how they are um and almost immediately laura's hair starts falling out she like pulls out her hair and a big clump comes out and Rochelle looks over like, oh, shit. It's OK. It's working. Bonnie is at her doctor's appointment. They're trying to see how effective her last treatment was. They start basically peeling her back away and all of her scars are gone.
Starting point is 00:55:43 They can't believe it. And so then she shows up at school with like a t-shirt she's got cleavage she walks in again still looking exactly like she did before only now she doesn't have scars on her arms it's still hot as hell and everyone takes notice oh my god oh she's hot look at her oh my gosh this woman i never even saw before because the scars were blinding they go yeah we go to nancy's house um her step dad is an asshole he's he like sort of hits on nancy and then he's like a little abusive to her mom and uh has a heart attack and dies and we learn that he had a and this part oh my god so 1996 i couldn't believe it they a guy comes from his work to talk to nancy and nancy's mom and it's like hey so um you know obviously this is a tough time you're grieving he had a a large pension that will go to you. Really large pension.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Don't exist anymore. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. It's huge. It's a lot of money for you guys. It is $175,000. Count them in weeks. Which like,
Starting point is 00:57:00 look, don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. If somebody gave me $175,000, I would lose my shit i'd be pumped but they freak out as if they were just given a million dollars they freak out 175 000 i truly i could i mean in la excuse me that's like a month it's a it's a down payment on a normal house. A very normal house. But they freak out.
Starting point is 00:57:31 They're fucking pumped. They move into a fucking dope apartment. It looks like Century City. I don't know. They moved into a. It's like a penthouse. Yeah. A penthouse apartment.
Starting point is 00:57:43 They're so excited. The girls come over and they do another ritual in Nancy's bedroom that is all about what is the wording they say? Glamour? I believe it. I'll make you see it.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Something like that. So it's Sarah makes her hair blonde. They all freak out. they learn this new trick they've all they all are like holy shit it's like everything we wanted to happen has happened manon is in us but the thing about nancy though is they're in this fancy penthouse apartment and she's clearly still like miserable like she has this fancy apartment now but her mom is still really pissing her off and like they clearly have a terrible relationship you can just tell
Starting point is 00:58:32 the things are still bad with her obviously yeah it's all like very surface level like we said very surface level stuff it's um it's like they wished for things without sort of fully understanding what the consequences of those choices would be, which isn't represented by that night at like 3 a.m. Chris shows up outside of Sarah's window asking her to move in with him because he's so in love with her. She says, hey, I'm not ready for that, that we don't want. She's sort of getting a little bit uncomfortable with how obsessed with her she is we're teenagers we don't move in together we're teenagers it's been a I don't know a month
Starting point is 00:59:11 and he says I don't know I just I can't eat I can't sleep you're all I think about so she's sort of realizing this has gone a bit too far they go to the mad that same magic shop that they went to originally that they're not originally. Not that. Which shop.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I don't know. House of Intuition. They go there the next day. Sarah asks that woman, how do you undo a love spell? And she says, oh, there's no undoing a spell. Once you've put it out in the universe, you have to wait and see if it comes back to you. That woman says, there's no such thing as black or white magic. It all lives somewhere in between.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Whatever you send out, you get back three times. Back to you. Nancy. Sarah seems a little freaked out by this knowledge. She's not loving it. Nancy, not so much. She finds a book about invoking the spirit and asks to
Starting point is 01:00:10 she goes to buy it. She has money now. Who knew? And the shop owner sort of advises her, this is pretty serious stuff. I don't know if you want to buy this book. And Nancy doesn't heed her warnings and is like, bitch, I have money. I'm cool. Whatever. I'm going to buy this book and nancy doesn't heed her warnings and it's like bitch i have money i'm cool
Starting point is 01:00:25 whatever i'm gonna buy this book so they walk out onto the beach they all have like a little animal in a cage they make a pentagram out of rocks and the sand they do this crazy ritual they're standing their arms are up in the sky and they're going, I call the corners of the north spirit of the earth, whatever. They each do their things, and they're calling for men on, they're invoking the spirit. Lightning is going crazy in the sky, which again, in LA, very rare. Nancy gets full on struck by lightning like it like shoots her full body knocks them out knocks them all out uh the next morning they all sort of come to up on the beach and the three girls see nancy walking out walking towards them from the ocean on water walking on water from the ocean
Starting point is 01:01:30 uh saying that manon is in her it has happened pretty scary in this moment she's feeling really great uh they hear sirens and look down the beach literally like just to the right of them down the whole shoreline of the beach are a bunch of beached dead sharks just like one and dolphins and everything like all these big sea creatures just killed. Big sea creatures. I focus on the sharks because, again, I hate sharks. I hate them so much. I love sharks. They're so scary. Biggest fear.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I know Sammy loves sharks. I'm so scared of sharks. Don't want to see them, even dead. There's a big shark. There's a hammerhead. I mean, they're all dead. They're all dead. Dead.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Beached, dead. And Nancy's like throwing herself on them like, oh, my God, I love you so much. I feel you inside of me. Oh, my God. I love you so much. I feel you inside of me. Oh, my God. I love you. This is a gift. It's a gift from Manon. Thank you, Manon, for these dead sharks.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Thank you. Thank you. Yay, yay, yay. And all. Yeah. Everyone else is standing looking at her like, fuck, what's happened? Yeah. Sarah is really freaked out on their drive home.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Sarah says, hey, I sort of think enough is enough. Things have gone really far. Aren't you guys freaked out? Isn't this weird? I do want to note that Nancy is driving in this scene, and I'm like, who let Nancy drive after this? Who put her behind the wheel after she was literally given the power of man on?
Starting point is 01:02:58 That feels like a bad idea. They should have reconsidered that. And Sarah is the only one that is scared at all. Nancy's like. Bonnie and Rochelle are thrilled. And Nancy's like, I'm hot. All of a sudden, my scars on my back are gone.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Bonnie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Sarah even says, Sarah's like, Bonnie, you used to be nice. And now you're really narcissistic. And she's like, I used to hate myself. And now I'm hot. Shut the fuck up. She's like, I don't care what you think. I'm and now you're really narcissistic and she's like I used to hate myself and now I'm hot shut the fuck up she's like I don't care
Starting point is 01:03:27 what you think I'm hot now whatever which honestly point taken they're driving through downtown she doesn't necessarily have like she's having fun she's just having an okay time so Lancy's driving
Starting point is 01:03:44 speeding through downtown. Every time she approaches a red light, she goes, what color is the light? It's red. Oh, doesn't red mean stop? And she keeps, in her mind, willing the lights to change to green so that she can speed through. It keeps happening. Zare says, eventually, the light is going to be red. They have a really close call.
Starting point is 01:04:06 She drives through. One is still red when she drives through. Then it turns green. They almost get in a car accident, but then they don't. And the other girls are like, wow! We're invincible! Hell yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all pumped. At school the next day, Rochelle, this part is really upsetting,
Starting point is 01:04:21 Rochelle is in the showers in the gym, like by the pool oh yeah here's Laura crying walks over and sees Laura sitting on the floor of the showers at the school like all of her hair has and it's also like her scalp is like
Starting point is 01:04:38 bloody and patchy and yeah like she looks ill and she's sitting on the floor sort of like with her head in her hands like pulling her hair out just sobbing and being like what did i do like what's happening to me i don't understand rochelle sort of looks on her with um a bit of pity is like starting to feel feel right uh badly for her um uh then chris calls sarah and says hey i need to i need to be alone with you i need to see you can i please see you i can't stop thinking about you she finally says okay fine i'll see you they he picks her up they're in his convertible everybody has a
Starting point is 01:05:20 convertible in this movie they're in his convertible uh and he's being really obsessive with her and really intense and she says you know i i think i think you should take me home uh and he doesn't want her to leave and it starts getting kind of like aggressive oh my god trying to keep her there like tries to like pin her down she like tries to get out of the car and he like chases her and like knocks her down and it like very much looks like it's about to be a rape situation and then she kind of throws him like hits him in the face yeah and he's like yeah she like kicks him in the nuts and manages to run away um and runs to Rochelle's house where she safely gets
Starting point is 01:06:08 there. All the girls are there and they're talking and they can't believe what's happened. They're all saying we have to get him back for this. Sarah's like, no, this is my fault. I shouldn't have ever done the spell on him. Let's sort of just leave it
Starting point is 01:06:24 be. Nancy finds out. They're like, where's Chris right now? They find out that he's at a party, like high school house party. Right. And Nancy decides to go and find him. Yep. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:06:37 She clearly wants to use this just as an excuse to get to. Yeah. Nancy's been after Chris the whole time and Sarah's like I don't want you to do this let's not go to the party she's clearly very distressed Nancy's like I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:06:55 no I'm gonna go I'm gonna find him so Nancy goes finds Chris he's drunk he's like very drunk and he sees her there and is like, where is Sarah? Is she here? I need to see her. She brings Chris up into a bedroom, tries to seduce him as herself. They obviously slept together before.
Starting point is 01:07:17 She brings that up, and he's like, oh, you're crazy. I love Sarah. So she does the ritual that we saw before of changing your appearance and transforms herself into Sarah. Which she's weirded out by at first, but is really drunk. So he pretty quickly is like, oh, Sarah, great. They start to have sex. Yep. Then the rest of the girls show up at the party to get Nancy.
Starting point is 01:07:44 They're like you know that let's get her out of here i never wanted to do this in the first place sarah walks into the room where nancy is fucking chris where nancy has now re-revealed herself as herself chris is like wait sarah just walks in i was sleeping with sarah Now it's Nancy. Realizes he goes like, oh, you're a witch. And Nancy's like, yeah, we're all witches. Like, Sarah's a witch, too. You only like Sarah because she made a spell for you to like her. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And he's not buying it, but he's really freaking out. Nancy is thrilled to be revealing all of this to him. And Nancy yells at him. thrilled to be revealing all of this to him and nancy yells at him and i did like this line a lot where she says you treat women like they're whores and you're the whore so she's just getting angrier and angrier and she's like you're the one that sleeps with everyone she's now kind of levitating her toes are like drag she's like. That's the best shot of the movie. It's really cool. She's like dragging her toes toward him and screaming at him. He's kind of backing up.
Starting point is 01:08:51 He's afraid moving closer and closer to the window behind him. And eventually the window behind him like explodes and he falls out of it. Falls to his death, which, you know sarah's not happy about um she feels pretty guilty about her part in uh his death yeah so she we see sarah cutting out there's a like a picture of the four of them she cuts nancy out of that photo so there's just a photo of nancy wraps some like ribbon around it and tries to do ritual she says i i bind you nancy from doing harm harm to yourself harm to others i bind you nancy doing harm like says it over and over again that night sarah has a nightmare that the three women are like floating on top of her and trying to strangle her and kill her. The next day at school in the bathroom, the three girls come in and they're like, how have you been sleeping, Sarah?
Starting point is 01:09:53 I bet not great. You know, Nancy says, like, don't you ever try to do a spell on me ever again. So they know that she tried to bind nancy from doing harm they say nancy says you know um if a woman that used to be if a woman tried to if she betrayed her coven they would kill her um so you know i will i you might want to change schools or um states or countries you might want to get out of here, basically threatening her life. And it's clear that, yeah, none of her magic is working against them, and they're able to do magic against her, keeping her from sleeping.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Sarah runs back to the occult shopkeeper from the beginning scene, and she's like, they're in my thoughts, they know what I'm thinking, know what i'm doing and i'm i'm at my wits end what do i do and they go into that back room that previously um this shopkeeper had had been like don't we can't go back there but now we're brought into there and the woman tells sarah that she the only remedy is that she will have to invoke the spirit which is what they did on the beach when men on entered nancy and sarah says i know that made nancy go crazy like i can't i can't do that and the woman says well that nancy went about it in the wrong way. Her intention was to do harm. It wouldn't be that way if you did it. But this is your only remedy.
Starting point is 01:11:30 You have to invoke the spirit. And she says, you can't feel fear. You can't be scared. And she's Sarah's like, how the hell am I not supposed to be scared? I am scared. Yeah. She's like everything. Every single time I use my power, someone gets hurt or someone dies.
Starting point is 01:11:47 And I am so scared. And the woman is just, the woman is, doesn't she say something about her mom? She's like, your mom wouldn't want you to be scared or something like that. Yeah, so they start to try to do the ritual. do the ritual um and i guess yeah that sarah's just too scared because as they start we get like a vision of the whole shop burning up which isn't which we realize doesn't really happen but it's just sarah being too scared so she sort of runs out of the shop and flees goes back to her house where she gets a phone call no one's home she comes in and starts calling for her dad. He's not there. The phone rings, and it's Nancy.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And she says, oh, where are your parents? Didn't you? I guess they thought that you'd run away, so they flew home to San Francisco on flight 321. But, oh, my gosh, didn't you? Haven't you heard the news? Turn on the news news turn on the news and see what happened and it's footage
Starting point is 01:12:48 of a plane crash from LA to San Francisco no survivors Sarah starts freaking out hangs up the phone runs outside and this is where we have our 10,000 snakes count them
Starting point is 01:13:04 count them 10, 000 snakes there are snakes everywhere lizards spiders rats scorpions maggots coming out of the toilet scorpion like everywhere she turns she's outside there's a bunch of snakes she goes back inside she goes upstairs in the bathroom they're coming out of the pipes they're coming out of the pipes. They're coming out of the toilets, just like rats, bugs, fucking. It's so nasty. They're everywhere. She's freaking out. She like kneels down on the ground and is crying, freaking out about all these nasty creatures. And Nancy comes in and goes, oh, this is the meanest fucking shit. She comes in and goes, this is the meanest fucking shit. She comes in and goes, if I was as pathetic as you, I would have killed myself years ago. You should get on with it. That's so mean.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Devastating. So that sort of snaps Sarah out of it and realizes that this was all like magic imagery that those girls were putting in her head. There aren't actually snakes and bugs in her house she goes downstairs and finds that all three of them are there and they're floating right yeah flying hovering in the air at this point
Starting point is 01:14:15 yeah they're like they're they have so much power they're just like at this point Sarah is like weak and Nancy has has a like a fancy blade little like hand knife thing that she had earlier when they did their their first ritual in the woods um and she tells her nancy tells sarah oh you're gonna kill yourself tonight
Starting point is 01:14:41 um and sarah sees this really made me laugh a handwritten note in like the craziest most childlike handwriting that just says i killed chris i'm sorry signed sarah which is like what a suicide note um nancy comes down to her she was floating in the ground she comes down and she slices her across the wrists with her knife Sarah starts bleeding Sarah says like this isn't this isn't real you're not really doing this and Nancy says well why are you
Starting point is 01:15:14 why are you bleeding then and she looks down and she is bleeding from her wrists um she runs upstairs to her bedroom um she sort of is like I need she sort of realizes when, I need, she sort of realizes when she's up there, she sees a picture of, this picture of her mom, and it all of a
Starting point is 01:15:30 sudden becomes like Harry Potter style, like a moving picture. And it sort of, yeah, Lily Potter. Gives her, yeah, so Lily Potter vibes and Harry Potter was stolen from the craft. And it gives her power.
Starting point is 01:15:46 It feels like, so she goes, I think she starts saying this ritual of like, make them see what they've done, something like that. Nancy's downstairs with the other two and is like, what the fuck is taking her so long? I want her to be dead. Sends Rochelle and Bonnie up to check on her.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Rochelle and Bonnie go upstairs. They see themselves in a mirror and we see them see their own reflections. Not how they actually look. So Bonnie sees herself with scars all over her face. Rochelle sees herself with her hair falling out, which again, I was like, oh, that's what makes them want to not have someone die as they got ugly. Oh, yeah. Honestly, yes. That's literally i mean yeah so they see themselves like that they freak out because yeah they think oh my god it's coming back to us three times over now we're even like worse than we were before they freak out they flee so sarah realizes she needs to invoke Manon. She needs to find the strength
Starting point is 01:16:46 to invoke Manon. Not be afraid. She does it. She invokes Manon. Immediately her wrists stop bleeding. Nancy comes upstairs and yeah they have... So Nancy comes upstairs and is like, Sarah, where are you? Sarah walks out of a mirror.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Which is pretty cool. I don't know how that happened or whatever. She walks out of a mirror Which is pretty cool I don't know how that happened She walks out of a mirror And is like Manon Manon is in me Manon's mad at you Nancy Manon says that you abused what he gave you And now you have to pay the price So then Nancy's fingers turn into snakes
Starting point is 01:17:20 Oh my god I forgot And bugs start coming out of her sleeves and mouth and it's really gross. The bug stuff is the scariest part in this movie. I hate it. It's really nasty. There are all these cockroaches in
Starting point is 01:17:35 her mouth and all over her face. I hate it. All over her body. There's like everywhere. She's freaking out. Again, she's freaking out. Again. She's freaking out. But again, it was just an illusion. It was that Sarah was making it happen with her magic mind.
Starting point is 01:17:51 So Nancy apologizes and is like, I'm sorry. I just, I took it too far. So then Sarah tries to bind her again again she does the same bullshit before i bind you nancy from doing harm harm to yourself harm to others i bind you nancy from doing harm and nancy doesn't like that one flies at her attacks her trying to stab her with her big knife. They're fighting. Eventually, a huge dresser, like, flies across the room, smashes Sarah into a wall.
Starting point is 01:18:32 And then it sort of calms down for a second, and Nancy doesn't know where Sarah went. And she's, like, digging through all this debris, and then she sees the clothes that Sarah was wearing. Like, yeah, Sarah's, like, perfectly laid out outfit clothes that Sarah was wearing. Like yeah Sarah's like perfectly laid out outfit that she was just wearing like as if you'd like put your clothes out on the bed to be like this shirt with this skirt. For your first
Starting point is 01:18:53 day of eighth grade. Like for your first day of eighth grade. Her clothes are lying flat perfectly in a little outfit. And Nancy is suspicious of it. Picks up her knife. knife thinks that Sarah's under there and goes to stab her she's right Sarah had made herself invisible under her
Starting point is 01:19:10 clothes like got into the like flooring I guess into the foundation of the house so Nancy goes to stab her Sarah reappears kicks Nancy in the stomach blows her back and smashes her into the mirror.
Starting point is 01:19:25 And I guess she's defeated. Defeated. Defeated. Defeated. The mirror smashes and breaks glass everywhere. Cut to, I don't know, the next day, several days later. I don't know. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Time has passed. Sarah is in her driveway with her dad. Her dad's like unpacking groceries or something. whatever, it's, time has passed. Sarah is in her drive with her dad. Her dad's, like, unpacking groceries or something. Obviously, the flight didn't really crash. He's fine. He's alive. They're unpacking groceries. Rochelle and Bonnie come up, and they're like, hey, we're really
Starting point is 01:19:56 sorry that, you know. This is so, it's so lame. We're sorry. Obviously, your dad, like, you know that it was just, like, obviously, like, your dad's not dead, and everything's fine, like you know that it was just like a obviously like your dad's not dad and everything's fine and like it was just a joke anyway um do you still have like magic powers because we don't have magic powers anymore i'm just wondering like do you still have magic powers and anyway i hope that we can be friends and sarah's like um thanks for the
Starting point is 01:20:17 apology and goodbye uh get uh off of my driveway and they go like she probably doesn't even really have powers anymore and Sarah turns around wind starts blowing the sky gets stormy a tree branch cracks and falls and almost hits Bonnie and Rochelle
Starting point is 01:20:39 they have to jump out of the way they look up at Sarah and wind is blowing all around her and she looks super powerful and she looks super powerful. And she says, like, you probably want to be careful. You don't want to end up like Nancy. Cut to Nancy in a fucking mental asylum strapped to a bed with cuts all over her face. Talking about how Manon's inside of her. And she's flying. And she gets a shot of sedatives.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Cackles to camera. And the end. The end. It's like a really. It's probably like the most fucked up scene of the movie in a way. And then it cuts to credits. And the song is this like poppy, funs song it's a peter gabriel cover it's i have the touch and yeah i mean i think these last like 15 minutes i was like
Starting point is 01:21:36 fuck this movie like it's just you know i think it had so much going for it. This like female friendship, this like women empowerment and like so much of it is so cool. And then it ends with them being like just bitchy to each other. And it's just like, yeah, that really bummed me out, too, that it's not real friendship. It never ends up being real friendship on anyone's part. And that sucks i i that that was the worst that was the worst written scene to me is rochelle and bonnie being like so how are you um you know it was a joke um do you still want to be friends because do you still have power it felt so deeply unrealistic and it felt like it was written like on set that day it was so
Starting point is 01:22:26 poorly done that it does kind of take you out of the movie where it's like this dialogue is even worse than the kind of bad dialogue that's been throughout the movie um which wasn't it was fine enough to keep you involved this was like bonnie and rochelle were suddenly so nakedly power hungry still and hadn't learned anything it just was like okay i don't know it was awful yeah it would have been cool i kind of like there's something about the the mental asylum part that is like really disturbing in a way well because that's like that's malicious this is like we're we're getting our friend
Starting point is 01:23:10 committed because we're mad at her well it also makes it seem as though Nancy was just purely evil and this movie has really set her up to be you understand her like she's still humanized there would be
Starting point is 01:23:26 something that would be more powerful about it in a way as if nancy like ended up committed and then they were the last scene was like them realizing and like trying to get her out or like realizing and like being like fuck yeah i mean because it all ended up being oh it was all about either nancy or sarah being like the most powerful and only one of them could win and the rest of us are fucked. And like they all only used their power to achieve that end. I'm the hottest. I have the guy who likes me. I am the most powerful in this crew.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Right. And they set up all those things that you would think would be resolved by them being like, oh, wait, this is wrong. But then it wasn't. And it was like, oh, no, that was right. And we're fucking doubling down on that. And we're all just we all hate each other at the end. That said, it's fun. And the outfits.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Really good outfits. There are, you know, a bunch of snakes. If you're a big snake fan you'll get a bunch of snakes if you're a big snake fan you're gonna fucking love this movie if you're into snakes you're gonna love this movie no questions asked lot of snakes there weren't any fun voices in this
Starting point is 01:24:40 were there? we never we never actually like like, see or hear Manon at all. No fun voices, but our regular voices are fun. We'll have to suffice. Our regular voices are fine.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Look, I still want to be a witch. I still want to be, we have all the four elements, so, I don't know. I mean, seems like we could find a way to make it happen I think we should let's try on Saturday let's try on Saturday I can't wait to drink the blood
Starting point is 01:25:12 from my sisters yes me too especially during a global pandemic I can't wait it'll be safe and good and you know goodbye goodbye goodbye And, you know. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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