Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE DESCENT

Episode Date: June 17, 2020

Six women, one cave, and a whole bunch of nasty naked gollum men - we're recapping Neil Marshall's 2006 film (and Sammy's favorite horror film of all time!!!!) The Descent! Join us as we make a very strong case for never ever going spelunking. Adventure is bad and we should all just stay home. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm too scared for scary movies and I missed you guys. I'm Henley. I'm also too scared for scary movies and I missed you guys too. I'm Sammy. I love scary movies and I freaking miss you guys all the time.

All the time. Here we are. All the time. All the dang time We took a week off From the podcast So we're back, thrilled to be Back Obviously a lot's been going on

Which is why we took that time off And you know I could ask you guys what's up But that's what's up Is everything that's happening in the world That we're all really um dealing with and thinking about and we're three white ladies um so we know that we don't know necessarily the right things to say but we're trying and we figured we i don't know

we'll just check in and talk about what's going on with us in this moment. Yeah. It's been emotional and overwhelming. Also inspiring and kind of hopeful. It's been a lot of things, I think. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but basically realizing that I'm like racist and part of a racist system as a white person that I've liked. Just like much more passive and complicit than I would have thought is how where I've been like, oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's like infuriating. It's been so easy. It's infuriating and really shameful.

And I got, you know, pretty overwhelmed by a lot of those emotions for a few days and kind of to a point of inaction, which like in itself comes from a place of privilege, if you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I have the privilege to be able to kind of not do anything because I, you know, I benefit from this system. And so I like kind of then came to a point of, oh, that's not helpful for anybody and I need to move past that. And so, yeah, I've just been trying to do what I can to stay active about this because it's like it's been a big wake up call. And I don't think that, you know,

sitting this out is an option, really. It's been amazing to watch the whole world specifically america seem to like wake up to this at the same time um yeah and for just myself to wake up to it too um and it feels like it feels like this is a different moment it feels like things are actually going to change hopefully um so i mean i know that i know that i am going i'm starting to do the work that i should have been doing my whole life and i know that like the people i'm closest to who are also white are also starting to do that work just even like recognizing how you're complicit in the in white supremacy being able to talk about your whiteness is something that we've never had to do at least i haven't had to do right um certainly not unlike the groups

that i'm like as much as i'm doing it and with how many people and the tone of the conversations and I think I mean I feel different even in two weeks it's it's a it's a combination right of internal and external work and it's also it's gonna take it's it's not short term yeah no it's it's like lifelong I mean I think what a lot of people are realizing right now is that it's like we have to make a lifelong commitment as particularly as white people because like we built these systems. Well, and black people have

been fighting this fight and we're just now joining it. Right. Also as well. It's the movement didn't start it two weeks ago. No. We just started actually speaking for myself myself actually actively paying attention and wanting to change and be better and and accept what i don't know and and a big thing for me has been um being okay with being uncomfortable which is like yeah so simple but um

that sort of even having this conversation on a podcast that people listen to and can all in all likelihood find something to to uh be upset about or like blame us for that we could have done wrong and just accepting that like well the worst thing that happens is people die um not that i put my foot in my mouth or make a mistake. Like, I need to try and just do my best and then if I do something wrong, learn and do better the next time and that. Yeah, exactly. That's just part of it. Yeah,

that's been a big thing for me too is being afraid of looking stupid and usually I like to wait or like I won't talk about something unless I feel like an expert in what I'm talking about. And obviously, I'm not an expert in any of this. And so my instinct is to be silent about it.

And that's just also not okay. So I feel like it's okay to get it wrong. It's not okay to do nothing. And it is a lifetime. wrong it's not okay to do nothing you know and it is it is a lifetime like you can't fix it if you just for two weeks go to every protest sign every petition post every single thing you see scream at all your family members which is like how i felt at the beginning of like oh i have to talk to everyone i have to do it all i have to yeah and that will be the thing that keeps it from being in like you have to find a way to incorporate it into your daily life and your daily practice, because it's about dismantling an entire system that we are all brought up within and don't even see most of the time if we're not looking.

Right. Oh, my God. I feel like our kids are and hopefully our grandchildren are going to look back on this moment and be like, wow, you guys were fucking idiots. on this moment and be like wow you guys were fucking idiots my sister had her first child in January and a thing that I keep thinking that

genuinely gives me hope is wow he's going to be such a better person than I am because my sister is already a better person than me and so like he oh my god like he's going to defund the police he's going to defund the fucking police he's going he's gonna defund the police he's gonna defund it's already gonna be defunded man he's gonna grow up in a world without police yes yes so so henley you've

you've started we all ordered this book uh it's very very back ordered so mine has not arrived yet but you were able to start uh yes i was able to start this book called Me and White Supremacy by Leila Saad. It's a workbook. So it's actually very involved in terms of like journaling. And it's kind of speaking to more of the internal work that we were talking about before about just recognizing within yourself how white supremacy kind of lives inside of you as a white person and the ways in which you've lived into it kind of unknowingly and blindly. But I actually I want to recommend that book. But I also really want to recommend Ta-Nehisi Coates did an interview with Ezra Klein this week or last week. And he said something that really, really stuck with me,

which is, you know, the idea of defunding the police sounds really extreme to certain people. But if you actually, the people who feel like it sounds extreme to are probably the ones who are already living in a community where the police have like been abolished. Right. Like the people who feel like it's an extreme idea don't actually come into contact with exactly police that often like white people don't often don't have to deal with police. And that I felt was really meaningful because that's true in my life. I rarely have to deal with the police.

For me, effectively, the police have already been abolished in my life. the police like for me effectively the police have already been abolished in my life um and i felt like that was really just like a really interesting way of looking at it yeah and yeah listeners we just hope that you are all getting involved too in a big way in a small way in any way that works for you I just think it's a really important thing that we all do and on that note man let's just get into this fucking scary ass movie that we're doing this week

to transition well the other much less important thing that happened this week was it was my birthday it was Samantha's birthday. Very important. God, do we love Samantha. And I somehow convinced

Henley to watch my favorite horror movie of all time with me, which is The Descent. Well, I will say in the moment we all agreed to do that. That's true. That's true. And then one of us, me, backed out.

I was really worried for you, Emily. So I'm a little I think it's for the best. I really enjoyed myself, actually. I really enjoyed it. I surprised myself. I wasn't that scared. I can't believe it. I've heard this movie is like ungodly scary.

believe it. I've heard this movie is ungodly scary. You know, I don't know whether this is okay to admit, but I did have Jenna and Sammy over to my house to watch it and I was wedged. Well, you all don't have COVID. You got your test results back. We did get tested. Be safe, everyone.

That's true. That's true. I felt so comforted by their presence. And I really think that it eliminated a lot of the fear for me because I was wedged between two of my favorite people who also, you guys have such a deep love for this movie and have obviously seen it so many times. And so I was, I had fair warning anytime anything remotely scary was about to happen. The movie is The Descent.

Let me give you some stats about the movie. The movie is The Descent. It came out in 2006. It was written and directed by Neil Marshall, starring Shauna McDonald, Natalie Mendoza, Alex Reed, Saskia Mulder, Myanna Buring, and Nora Jane Noon. This has been a movie. This is one of the movies that made you love horror, Sammy. Yes. So the first time I saw this movie was I majored in film in college. And one of the things that we could do to get like a quick credit was to take a weekend film class where you would go and basically for eight hours on saturday and sunday just watch

a bunch of movies of a certain genre and then write a paper on them and so i took to be in school that sounds amazing what i want to be able to do that. Schools waste it on the young. It's true. It's true. But I took a horror film class and I wasn't a big horror fan at the time or anything. So in one day, we watched The Descent, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Don't Look Now. And The Descent, we watched first and it was in a room of like a lecture hall of 700 people and I just knew nothing about it and had no idea what to expect and it was like probably the most fun viewing experience of my whole life so that really set the tone for my relationship with this movie and then after that I'm someone who when i love a movie i like to make other people watch

the movie with me and so i think this was probably my 10th or so viewing of the film because i make everybody watch it with me except for me well maybe after you hear about it you'll want to watch it i honestly think i might want to watch and i'll watch it again I'll watch it again. I'll watch it again and again for the rest of my life. Hello, everybody. It is cocktail hour. And this week's cocktail is an Explorer Martini.

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Few and far between don't see a lot of werewolf horrors. I've never seen it. Hopefully we'll do it on the pod one day And Obviously filming in caves is too dangerous So all of these caves are built on sound stages. And there were 21 separate cave sets built for this film. Holy shit. Which I told Henley at the beginning to be like, they're on sound stages. They're on sound stages. That helped. That helped a lot, actually. That is helpful. Caves are so scary and so dangerous. I'm not going. I'm not doing that.

Have you ever been in a cave? I have actually. I went in Puerto Rico. I went on a few cave tours. They were actually cool. I mean, that's the thing. Caves are also really cool. But now that I know how scary they are, like, no, thank you.

They seemed really safe, the ones that I was in, because they were very touristy. And you're never like that far subterranean or anything. These, this type of cave? No, no, no. I'm not doing that. Ever. No, absolutely not. I think, yeah, the whole like adrenaline junkie thing, but then going into a cave just doesn't

make any sense to me. It's like. I'm so glad I'm not an adrenaline junkie. Oh my God, me too. I'm so fucking glad that I do not need that one. Me too. Me too. This is interesting.

And I don't think this is too much of a spoiler, but I'm sorry if it is. The appearance of the whatever is scary in this cave was kept completely secret from the cast members until the first scene in which they filmed it. So it was like a genuine surprise for the actors. They love doing that in horror. They love having a little trick up their sleeve to fucking freak out there. I've been thinking lately that I feel like acting in horror movies would be so fucking fun. But that's

the kind of shit, like a ready or not type movie I would love to do. But something like that, like I think if I ever did a horror movie I truly would be so scared that they were going to do some shit like that like i think if i ever did a horror movie i truly would be so scared that they were gonna do some shit like that to me and i would like not i would be scared i would be genuinely yeah they would think i was such a great actor because i would just be so fucking scared the whole time well okay uh to tie into that shauna mcdonald who is our protagonist Sarah in the film is actually claustrophobic and so she said a lot

of the scenes she's not really acting she was just like it was very easy to seem very scared because I was very scared and the thing about fear is when you start even acting fear when you're like hyperventilating or like right your body responds in a certain way you're like hyperventilating or like screaming. Your body responds in a certain way. Yes, you like actually get really freaked out. I feel like that's that gives me a lot of anxiety to think about.

Yeah. Should we watch the trailer? Let's watch the trailer. Yes! Give me a smile. Juno, are you sure we're going the right way? I've never been lost in my life. Yes! I'm stuck! I can't breathe. Okay, Sarah, you have to calm down.

I'm coming back, okay? Okay. Okay, move! Now! Now! This is not good, guys. Can we get out of here? Which way? I don't know.

Sarah, but she saw someone back there. Saw what? I don't think I saw someone. I saw someone. No, you heard something and you saw what you wanted to see. It's the dark. It plays tricks on people. Hello!

Please! Is there anybody there? Hello! please is there anybody there hello there is no way in hell I would have been able to watch that movie oh my god it looks so scary

holy shit it was really scary. It is scary. But in like a good way. I liked it. It looks really good, but very, very, very, very scary. Oh, my. Oh, and that moment in the trailer where all of a sudden the light shines and there's a

freaky face behind her. Yeah. Jenna and I used to, when we watched this in college, we used to have to watch. There's a blooper reel and we had to watch the blooper reel afterwards because we'd be too scared and we needed to see them laughing and prove that they were just actors. We watched that last night. It was worth it. One hundred percent. Definitely helps.

Pro tip to any of you who are feeling brave enough to watch it. By the end of this, there is a blooper reel. Check it out. Ooh, wow. Should we just get into it? Let's get into it. Wow, I am very excited. I'm so excited.

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You know, their names are Sarah. Sarah is our protagonist. Juno and Beth are these three that we meet. And Sarah's husband and daughter are watching from the side of the river, kind of cheering them on. And they're having fun. And so they then get to the shore. The husband helps them out. He's helping Juno.

Sarah goes to her daughter, gives her a kiss. They're, you know, everyone's happy and feeling good. This whole movie is going to be happy, we think, probably. I think probably, yeah. This is going to be a movie about the aftermath of a fun whitewater rafting day. I don't know whether it was just me, but it didn't feel like it was, it didn't feel like it was immediately making you feel dread in the beginning of this movie. Like, there's a lot of this movie that is actually genuinely, it feels like heartwarming.

And there's something about it that feels like it's just from the nineties, even though it was made in 2005. There was a point in which we said it looks like homeward bound. Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Yes. I can picture the river. Now I know exactly where we are,

but I, I will. I think the pacing in this film is what makes it so good and feels so special to me. And we'll get into, I guess, the reasons why. But I think it's like one of the most well-paced films ever. So then Beth says to Sarah, okay, you guys head back. We'll meet you. Sarah gets in the car with her husband and daughter and they're driving back to wherever. And her husband's being kind of weird and just like quiet.

Yeah. And she turns to him and says, are you okay? You seem a bit distant. And then right at that moment, we see a car coming and he's not looking at the road and they get in a big accident and. And those fly through the windshield. Go straight through the husband's head. And also kills her daughter. And so she wakes up in the hospital. And it's dark. And she doesn't know what's happened yet. And kind of walks out into the hallway.

And looks at one end of the hallway and the lights start turning off behind her and she's kind of running and the darkness is catching up with her and she's running and running and running and then it cuts to kind of reality where it's just normal lit hospital hallway and she runs into the arms of Beth, her best friend, who says to her, she's gone, she's gone, and she just, like, collapses and is, like, sobbing in her friend's arms. And everybody

in the hospital is really just walking by like nothing's happening. This was a deeply unrealistic part of the movie, was just the extras not giving a flying fuck about this woman who's having a full emotional breakdown in the middle of the hallway. Like, several people are just walking by chatting like no big deal but it's incredibly sad i cried i cry every time i almost cried just talking about it it's really sad she's a really good

actress i think um she's very good and then we cut to kind of an overhead of a forest drone looking shot. And we get a lower third saying Appalachian Mountains, USA, one year later. And Beth and Sarah are driving together. And Beth is kind of saying to Sarah, you know, you don't have to do this. We, you know, we could turn back and Sarah says yeah Juno would be pretty pissed if we did That and

So we understand that Juno's kind of organized this Um Weekend for them or whatever it is And She says Juno came to Scotland last Year so it's only fair and beth says yeah she left pretty fucking quick though just a little like we're getting some jabs at juno like maybe when this

tragedy happened she didn't fully stick around yeah yeah so then we get to the cabin that they've rented they're basically in the middle of nowhere and And we meet Rebecca and Sam, who are sisters. Sam is a medical student. And she says something like, I'm so sorry that her and Sarah have like a nice little moment where Sarah's like your card was really, really touching. It really meant a lot to me to hear from you. And Sarah's or Sam says, I'm so sorry I couldn't be there. But with medical school, midterms, I think is what she says. She says midterms, which I think dilutes the argument. Midterms don't seem serious enough to not come to the funeral of your good friend's husband and daughter. But I'm not in medical school, so I can't speak to that directly. So so yeah, so we find out Sam is in medical school and rebecca is her

older sister who says something like i'm so proud of like she's gonna be she's such a genius my little sister so they have a cute dynamic where rebecca is this protective older sister and then we meet holly who they introduce her as juno's protege. And she's this big adrenaline junkie. She comes in like high energy. She's like, oh, yeah, like I've been doing. I did base jumping. You got to try base jumping. Oh, also, I should mention they all have great accents.

Holly is Irish. Sarah is Scottish. Juno's American. I think Rebecca and Sam are British. They also all have very thin eyebrows. Oh yeah, very 2005 eyebrows. 2005, baby. Mm-hmm. It's really noticeable. It's like, whoa,

eyebrows, they go through phases. Yeah. Wow, eyebrows have changed. They have. They really have. Mm-hmm. And so Holly says something to Sarah like, oh, Juno's told me so much about you and like i know you did a lot of base jumping and whatnot you were quite the adrenaline junkie as well she was showing me photos and sarah's a little embarrassed and juno pulls out a photo like i yeah i was showing her this and it's a photo of them uh her uh juno beth and sarah

and as sarah's looking at it she kind of to herself almost says love each day and they're like what and she says oh it's just something paul used to say so it's like something her husband used to say takes on a whole new meaning when your husband and daughter died in the same moment. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Um, okay. So then they're kind of like getting drunk, partying the night before. Tomorrow they're going to Borum Caverns and Holly is outside with Sam smoking a cigarette,

saying like Borum Caverns, more like Boredom Caverns. Like they're going to be so lame. And Juno comes out kind of slyly like, when have I ever let you down, Holly? Like, trust me on this one. It's going to be you're going to have a good time. I'd say you were already like a little suspicious of Juno at this point. Right, Henley? Yeah, I can't tell if it's because you guys primed me for that by accident.

I guess we were like fucking Juno. Yeah, you guys like hated Juno from the beginning, but. I mean, I hadn't heard fucking Juno, but I already am like, okay, like, calm down. Calm down, Juno. I think she is a little suspicious. Their conversation between Beth and Sarah in the beginning about juno primes you a little bit yes um and then juno yeah juno is a little annoying yeah we we kind of are getting the feeling that she's not the greatest friend maybe she's a little like out for herself

do we know or will we find out how all these women know each other they're just like no and actually what i adventure what i like a lot also about this movie is that it doesn't really over explain anything and truly each time i feel like i notice a new thing so no we don't know why they are friends they're just uh some adrenaline junkies that found each other birds Birds of a feather flock together. Yeah, that was something else we were talking about is how people who have similar interests really do become friends. And it's like, wow, I have zero friends. So say activity friends.

Zero friends who are activity friends because I'm not an activity friend. But also just one more comment on Juno. Maybe this is like beating a dead horse at this point, but her coming out and being like, have I ever let you down to a group where you know they're about to go through like a horrific experience makes me feel like she's slightly responsible for whatever is about to happen. Well, yeah, it's also like, what aren't you telling us, Juno? Yeah, just say what you mean.

Yeah, say what you fucking mean. Yeah, just say what you mean. Yeah, say what you fucking mean. So another thing to point out is Juno is wearing a huge metal feather necklace. And after she comes out and talks to Holly and Sam, they go back inside and she like kisses the feather necklace. And I think we had some comments about it. It's just like a very huge necklace. It's just really big. Very necklace. It's just really big. Very huge.

It's hard to not notice. Well, and she kissed it. So she's really drawn attention to it. And then it's nighttime. Everyone's going to bed. And Sarah is in a room with Beth and she can't sleep. Gets up, looks out the window. It's dark outside, and she's just kind of like moving closer and closer to the window

to squint, to look outside. And then a big piece of copper piping slams through her head, and she wakes up, and it was a nightmare. Big jump scare. First big jump scare. Well, second big jump scare. Yeah. And then we go to the next morning And it's the day of our big descent Splunking day

The descent Sarah I think Just one thing to point out is she takes a couple pills When she wakes up from her nightmare And So some of them like Rebecca's pretty hungover which I like They drink a lot the night before.

Juno is like super full of energy. Like, let's go. Let's go. Like, she's she's the type of person that woke up two hours before everybody else to go for a run. Yuck. But they all start gearing up. They get in the car. We're driving to Borum Caverns, apparently. We're getting some exposition from

Rebecca, who's kind of seemingly like wants to know all the information about things. And she's like, well, Borum Caverns is only a level two. Like, it should be relatively simple. We'll get in and everything will be pretty straightforward. And then

they approach the entrance to the cave which is like this huge hole in the ground basically and they start setting up their gear and rappelling down into it and so they get

to the first I don't know cave terminology but the first part of the cave they've rappelled down into this opening the opening opening of the cave, they've rappelled down into this opening. The opening, opening of the cave. It's probably like 50 feet down. The mouth. Mouth.

Mouth of the cave. Yeah, they probably rappel like 50 feet down. Oh, somewhere in here, Rebecca. I'd say Rebecca is like the mom of the group, I guess is what I would call her. And so she's kind of keeps saying like warnings to people like you think it's dark when the lights are out like down there it's pitch black and you can get claustrophobia you can get paranoia you can hallucinate you can have panic attacks like stay close to each other like it's no joke it's very beautiful though in the beginning the mouth of the cave is gorgeous the right light shining through and there's water dripping in a kind

of romantic way. It's all very nice. And they're all kind of taking it in and kind of exploring their own little corner of this first part of the cave. And Sarah notices what looks to be a bloody hand print.

But before she can tell anybody about it, a bunch of bats explode out of the side of the cave to fly out the mouth of the cave and scare her so bad and she starts really freaking out and panicking and they have to they run up they're like it's okay it's okay it's just bats it's just bats like relax we see that holly has a camcorder she's filming it and they'd calm sarah down and she forgets to mention that bloody handprint her hand like fits perfectly into it too it's so like alarming it's like that's not a good it's not good um and then juno says okay the only way out is through like we got to.

Oh, we missed an important thing. Sorry, Sammy. Oh, yeah. No, it's OK. When they all got out of the car to go into the cave, Juno has a guidebook. Yes. And she puts the guidebook. She looks at it and she puts it away.

She puts it in the glove box. More suspicious Juno activity. Yeah. So, okay. Now they're tunneling through, climbing through the first tunnel. And this movie has quite prolonged tunnel sequences. Like, it's not like a quick, like, cut and we're on the other side. It's like showing...

They really make you feel it being in that tunnel. Yeah. It's showing each of them one at a time going through the other side. It's like showing It really makes you feel it being in that tunnel. Yeah, it's showing each of them one at a time going through the same thing. The first one isn't too small. It's like enough that they can walk through. It's tight, but they're kind of like squeezing

through it and walking. Also good at this moment to remind yourself that they're on a soundstage. This is when it starts to be important to remember this isn't a real cave because that's just too scary. And so, okay, so they all make it through the first tunnel system and now they're in another kind of opening, clearing in the cave. And now it's pitch black because there's no daylight. And so they have the lights of their helmets and they have some flares

and so they light up a flare to kind of get their bearings, see where they are and it's this big open room. Why would anyone want to do this? It's so scary. I don't know. But it's really fun to see a movie that's lit like this though. I mean you don't see

movies that are all just completely pitch black. Yeah, that's a big part of making Henley watch this. I was adamant that we had to watch it at complete nighttime because it's very dark. And it just, listeners, don't you dare watch this movie in the daytime. It's cheating. I mean, you wouldn't even be able to see it because of like the glare. It would be impossible to even see what was happening. And so they light up their flare. They're looking around. Holly is kind of

saying, oh, this is a lot cooler than I thought. She's taking photos. We're eating our lunch. Oh, yeah. they take a lunch break Right away this is the fun and games Portion yeah lunch break Lunch break and

Sarah hears Something Sarah's the only person Who is Seemingly tuned Into her surroundings and so She's kind of has her flashlight And she thinks she hears something And she's looking around There's nothing there everyone else's kind of has her flashlight and she thinks she hears something and she's looking around there's nothing there everyone else is kind of oblivious just still having a good time

um so they finish their lunch and they have to look for the next passage and the way they do that is they hold a lighter up to each tunnel and wherever whenever there's a draft it'll make the lighter kind of either go out or flicker or whatever so they find a tunnel with a draft they say okay we found the next passage we have to crawl through here and this passage is way smaller it's very tight. You need to army crawl through it. And even that, it's hard. And it goes through water at one point. So you have to army crawl through this big puddle. And so you get soaking wet.

Do we get an idea of how long they think they're going to be in this cave? Like, how long did they plan to? I think they think they'll be done in in this cave? Like, how long do they plan to be here? I think they think they'll be done in the day. I mean, like, eight hours, I would assume. Right, okay. The day trip. A day trip, I think, is the plan. It's definitely a day trip. I mean, the fact

that they're so willing to go through water. I mean, they're not... Not for more than a day. That says a day trip to me. They can't be wet for 24 hours. Their willingness to just completely drench themselves in water was. Yeah, Henley had a big problem with that.

I didn't like it. Oh, interesting. Okay. It was just like so deeply uncomfortable. If you know you're going to be like hiking and doing physical activity for long periods of time, but also be wet. Right. Like, ugh, sounds awful. Yeah, and I'd say, I think this is one

I think this is probably one of the most stressful scenes in the movie. So I believe Holly goes first. Holly's a real go-getter. And she's very excited. She's leading the way. And again,

this is drawn out this is i'm thinking probably of four minutes long of watching them one at a time crawl through these really really small confined spaces lit only with their headlamps so it's super dark we're seeing the dust in the It's very claustrophobic. And Sarah is last. And as she is kind of near getting through to the end, she gets stuck and she starts to panic. And Beth was right before her. So Beth turns around and is like, I I think Sarah might be stuck she's not following me and Beth turns around to face Sarah and Sarah's like I'm stuck I'm stuck I'm stuck I'm stuck and she's like breathe breathe with me like look at me look at me don't panic it's okay

like look at me and Sarah's Beth is a really really good friend beth is a very good friend and sarah's really losing it and starting to cry and really panic and beth says the worst thing that could ever happen to you has already happened like why are you what are you scared of and is like okay it's like it's okay it's okay we're gonna it's just you can move you just gotta relax and she's doing a really good job trying to calm her down and sarah kind of we see that she is calming down for a second and then she has the um a rope bag with her and so she's like starting to climb or crawl forward more and she's like oh the rope bag I forgot the

rope bag behind me so that's like where their equipment is their ropes and their I don't know claspy things that you use cave exploring and and so just as she's kind of turning back to go grab the rope bag

we hear basically the sound of a rock slide and things start tumbling and it just sounds bad. get out right now. Music gets crazy. The cave starts collapsing behind where Sarah was. We see rocks fall in the tunnel behind her. She moves last second, gets out of the tunnel in time. It completely smashes and all this dust comes out. All six of them are coughing with all the dust in the air and they're like, don't move, don't move, wait till the dust comes out. All six of them are like coughing with all the dust in the air. And they're like, don't move, don't move. Wait till the dust settles. But they all made it out. They all made it out. And then they're all alive.

But the opening is completely closed. Like where they all just. Yeah. Where they just crawled through is completely done. So. Right. It's not not available anymore. And I think sam says well

there's three borum caverns has three entrances and three exits so like we'll be okay right and rebecca had been a little suspicious earlier i can't remember when but she kind of has been like up on juno's shit and and she turns to Juno and says yeah if this were Boram caverns but this isn't Boram caverns is it Juno and Juno is like Boram

caverns would have been really boring I I like Holly was right that would have been a real tourist trap I wanted us to do something more exciting. And so they're like, well, where the fuck are we? And she's like, this is an unexplored cave. It's not on.

No. Yeah. She's like, I wanted us to do something. I wanted us to see it together for the first time. I wanted us to be the first ones to see it. And Sam says something earlier where she's like i i put it like people will come for us i put in a plan for borum caverns and they're like oh yeah no those people will go to the wrong cave like people will come looking for them in the wrong spot and so they're fucking pissed at juno and they're like this is a fucking

ego trip don't act like this was something you like a nice thing you wanted to do for your friends like fuck you oh no it's it's not okay so then then they're like our only option is to push forward which i immediately disagree with and i was like try to like dig your way out first like well you don't know what's ahead of you like go backwards right yeah this is an unexplored cave we literally have no clue oh god what a fucking nightmare like

it could be endless um but so as everyone's kind of yelling at each other Sarah again is looking into kind of the corners of the cave she's hearing something again it's kind of the corners of the cave. She's hearing something again. It's kind of a rattly sound, almost insecty.

Again, I guess doesn't mention them to anybody. Okay, great, great. Loving this. So we're all pissed off now, but we have to keep moving forward. And so they find this next passage. to keep moving forward. And so they find this next passage. They basically have to climb across the ceiling of part of the cave. It's a huge drop. They throw a stone down and it takes forever to make a noise. So there's a huge drop, but they can see a tunnel on the other side of this. So they have to climb across the ceiling to get to the other side of this so they have to climb across the ceiling to get

to the other side of this particular pathway and like like bouldering shit like rock climbing they have climbing gear which they can insert into the crevices of and so basically who's the first one to go

it's Rebecca Rebecca's the first one to go and she kind of inserts these metal hooks into the. Right. Right. And so they hook themselves as they go. But she because she is putting the path there for the rest of them. She is basically just doing it. Free climbing.

Free hand. I guess she's probably tied in so she would fall back to them. But. Or the last hook that she put up yeah yeah but so she and she's having to hold up her whole body weight with just like one arm at a time and she her performance in this scene is great where she's just like it looks so hard and she looks so strong doing it and she's like screaming and like like one thing at a time like putting the next thing

in and it's like life or death like she has to just put she has to keep going forward and as she's almost to the other side she's about to put one more of her little clippy things in she sees

one that's already there. And it's a super old style of a clip, but there is one there. So someone has climbed here before. And so she's like, she's super weak about to drop. And so she just is like, fuck it, I'll use this this thing she clips her carabiner

into that and uses that as like the final thing to get her to the other side then throws the rope back and they'll basically all like zip line across and so they go one at a time each of them coming across juno and sarah are the last two to. Sarah ziplines across and is thinking that Juno will also zipline across. But Juno says, because we lost that other rope bag, we can't afford to leave any gear behind. So she's going to now again climb across the top of this cave to take back all of the clamps that Rebecca has put up. So one at a time, pulling them out. Also, just their blind commitment to moving forward just never makes sense to me. I'm just like, don't they take very small amounts of time for decision making.

And I think that's like a power to them as a group. Like, it's impressive that they're able to, like, make decisions as a group as effectively as they do. But at the same time, it's like, I would be the one in the group being like, let's not just blindly move forward. Maybe we should think about, like, trying to go back. Yeah. I mean, I get it.

I feel like that thing was pretty caved in and it's pretty a long tunnel. I, you know, I just would, I would just think it would be up for discussion a little bit. But also like, they don't know that there's another exit, right? So like. Yeah, exactly. They could be. They could just be going into their, I mean, I think that they will be. Aside from the monsters that I think are coming, they could just be climbing into their own

inevitable death. Exactly. But like, they'll run out of food and time and even if she says at one point like the batteries on our helmets are gonna run out like like there is a time constraint and we do need to like be moving forward fuck juno so juno is taking back each clamp thing one at a time same thing like holding her whole body weight from one arm which is just like i don't have I ever done that. I guess I have. Yeah. I'm like monkey bars, but it just looks really hard.

Yeah, I think it's really hard. On the second to last one, it slips. She slips and it collapses and she falls down. And Rebecca was holding the rope and it slides through her hands really quickly. And you know, when rope slides through your hands really quickly, it slices her hands open. So she's like screaming, somebody else grabs it. And then Juno is only held by the one pre the clamp that was previously there. But she's like fallen to the side of the cave thing. I don't know. I don't know the terminology of caves.

I'm so sorry. I feel like I'm not doing a great job finding the right words for how to explain a cave. I'm a really cave centric listener. So they got her she didn't fall and they they pull her back in but rebecca is screaming in pain her palms are sliced open real deep pouring blood we get a good look at those everyone's kind of in shock they grab the other thing that was left there by a previous climber. They pull it out and someone is like, this is a good sign, right? If someone's been here before, maybe that means that there is a way out.

And Juno says, this thing is definitely over 100 years old. Nobody uses equipment like this. And if someone had been here before, this cavern would be named. These people didn't make it out basically cool juno thanks like thanks for the optimism juno thanks that's so much better we love this um but they gotta keep moving forward so rebecca bandages up her hands and they keep moving and they make it to another little clearing and they see some cave paintings like the, you know, traditional like buffalo kind of cave drawings. They light up a flare and the drawing is of the mountain that they're in, basically.

And they see that in this cave painting there are two entrances into this cave and so she says okay that's some helpful art there is another way out and so we get a little bit of hope now like okay there is another way out we're gonna fucking find it

let's do it oh my god and then right after this we see them walking away and the camera pulls out to like show from behind part of the cave and we see a nasty golem

man. No! Wait, doesn't Sarah see him? No, not yet. I thought that was the first time. Oh, I missed this then. I didn't see the golem column. It's just for the audience. And I will say it is about 40 minutes into the movie, which

is close to halfway through. Yeah, so I've known that there are monsters in this cave from just hearing you tell me about it. But as a first time viewer, you have no idea that that's even an element of this movie, right? Yeah, so when I saw it for the first time viewer you have no idea that that's even an element of this movie right yeah so when i saw it for the first time i had no idea and i really went into it blind

and was like this is just a fucking scary movie about paranoia and claustrophobia in caves and even then it's scary um and yeah then when there became these golem guys, I was golem guys. I was not happy. They're adorable little golem men. They're so cute. Little cutie golem. Do they have goat feet? If only. Then they'd be my

perfect man. A golem with goat hooves. I love it. A blind little cave golem with goat hooves. Look out,. A blind little cave golem with goat hooves. Look out, Tim. She's ready to get swept off her feet. You guys know what to get me for my bachelorette party. A golem stripper.

Bunch of strippers. That's going to be easy to find. But okay, so then they're like, all right, that's, we've got a new sense of hope. Well, let's keep moving forward. If there's one thing I know about hope in horror movies is... It always ends up good. It's always going to be the right feeling. That's realized.

And it's going to be fine. And the hope is correct. Thank God. Um, so they do the, the, the, the old lighter trick. They're holding up the lighter to each of these few different tunnels. And one of them flickers. Juno's like, it's this tunnel on the left. And Holly runs through it.

It's like, fuck, yeah, I'm desperate to get out of here. She's moving way too fast. Juno is yelling like, slow down, Holly. You can't like run through caves where you don't know. It's like dark. You're going to get hurt. Holly doesn't care. She's running. And then she sees daylight, like she sees blue light. That's not like the light from their helmets. And she's like, I see daylight. I see daylight. Juno screams, that's not daylight, Holly. Slow stop and holly slips into this opening in the ground juno gets there just in time grabs her hand and she's kind of dangling off the edge of this hole in the ground

that we don't know how deep this hole goes and holly slips and falls and we see her body hit all the like walls of this hole as she falls down it juno calls everybody else like come on come on holly fell they quickly set up a rope to rappel down to holly we are with holly down down there we see her leg she says i think i hurt my leg we get a look at the leg the bone is jutting out of her shin the bone is fully jutting out this is pretty gruesome bad this is not good um but so we they all rappel down and you know luckily sam is a med student we set that up right and she took her midterms thank god this was on the midterm. She's a good student.

And so she says, I have to, you know, push it back into place and we're going to need to splint it. You're not going to be able to walk on it, but I need to push it back into place. And she makes her bite down on a little strap thing. Never a good sign. Never a good sign. And clicks her leg bone back into place and it's so gross and it is we were commenting on this this part is a little like unrealistic she gets her hands like her fingers like into the bone and you're like that just feels like not what you it's almost like it's like not moving the way that she wants to move. So she like sticks her hand basically into her shit and then is like wiggling her bone around.

It's so nasty. It's so gross. It's so gross. And it's just a reminder of like if anyone ever tells me to bite down on anything because of pain. What's going to come next is bad. Just kill me now. That's fine. How about instead you kill me?

But these are badass adrenaline junkie girls, so. No, no, they're very tough. They're more mentally equipped than we would be. So wait, what was the light that she saw that wasn't daylight? So at some point, Juno says it's phosphorus in the rocks. Sure. But okay

so they're putting a splint into Holly's legs. So they have these like pickaxe things. So they break the tip off one of the pickaxes so they can have the handle part to be her splint. They're wrapping that up. And while they're doing that

again, Sarah is looking around the sides of this new part of the cave that they're in. And she finds a kind of colonial looking helmet. And just like not of this era. Or even older. It looked like ancient Greek to me. It's like a metal helmet that looks like something like achilles would have worn yeah then as she's looking at it here's something and shines her flashlight

and sees a little creepy golem man drinking no drinking water like the cutest little golem you've ever seen he's like such a cute little like And I guess some more descriptors would be that this is like a human man size thing. It's not as small as Gollum. So Gollum is a little bit misleading. It's big.

It's the size of a human man. It's pale. She looks at it. She looks really scared. And then right as she um has the flashlight on it it runs away and goes out of sight and then juno is right there and it's like another little jump scare where juno's like what what did what did you see and uh sarah told tells her i saw a man there's a man down here she like, maybe he can help us get out of here, which is like Sarah, sweetie. Oh, my dear.

I know that was a really fun reaction to, yeah. I think absolutely not. She was like, we should try to track him down. He might be able to help us or no way out. If you're deep in the pit of a cave, deep in the pit of a cave, and a naked man-sized golem is drinking water. Hairless.

Like if a newt were a man runs away from you, he's not your friend. He's not the ticket out of here. He's not a sign that things are going to get better. And then they're all kind of like, well, okay, you know, regardless, we need to get Holly out of here right now. Like, she needs to, we need to get to hospital. We all need to get fucking out

of here right now. Jesus! So they start climbing back up, and they get to this new landing, and it's very dark at first, and you can't see what they're on. But as I think Sarah gets up there first and she has now the camcorder, which has a night vision setting. And so she turns on the night vision and she sees what they're standing on is just a ton of bones. It's all animal bones, ribss spines i think juno again has her has her

lighter out and she's like which tunnel there's like a few separate ways they could go she's like which way do we go which way do we go we need to get the fuck out of here she's holding up the lighter to each one of them and nothing is happening at each one. There's no breeze anywhere and she's like, I don't know. Like, it's a crapshoot. We could go down any of them. There's no way to know which one is good. And then they're like panicking. They're

freaking out. Sarah's looking through the camcorder going back and forth between Rebecca. So wait, is this back where they were above the hole or this is a new spot they've never been in? It's a new spot they've never been in. Okay. And she's panning the camera back and forth between Rebecca and Beth. And Rebecca's yelling, hello, is there anybody there?

Help us, anybody. And then the camera pans back to Beth and fucking scary ass man is leaning over her shoulder. It runs away in that moment. They all start screaming and then we see there are a few of them and they run in a really not human way. They're kind of defying gravity,

kind of like crawling on the walls and stuff. Like a... I think they changed the frame rate. Because all of a sudden it becomes like very fast and like clips. Like spidery. Yeah.

And so they all kind of group together in the center of this new part of the cave as they're hearing these creatures basically surround them. They're freaking out. No one's making a move. It's this face off.

And they basically have to just pick a tunnel and run. They're like, okay, let's just fucking pick one. Let's go. Sarah picks one. They make a run for it. And as they go in it, one of the creatures pops up in front of her like there's all this commotion and basically they all split up and go

different directions and Rebecca and Sam stay together Beth gets separated and she's on her own and she's running in one direction Sarah falls and hits her head really hard and then we see

juno trying to kind of protect holly because holly can't walk like holly needs someone to help carry her and so juno's trying to do that and then the monsters come and grab holly from her and she's like chasing after her trying to save her and we see one of the monsters bite basically rip holly's throat out she died yeah she dies hard it's not good um and they like toss her on the ground and leave her for a second juno comes back up to try to save her so they're not even eating her they're just killing her well they come back they like come back in a few different stages I think they eat her and so then as Juno kind of gets closer

to her to try to see if she's alive she's not she's dead the monster pops back in and is like fuck you get away from my prey and they get in a big fight and so now Juno is like. Juno goes hand to hand combat.

Basically hand to hand combat. Yeah. But she also has her pickaxe. Like each of them has a pickaxe. But in their hand to hand combat, it like flies out of her hand, of course. And so she like knocks one away. And I don't know. I think it runs away.

And then another one jumps on her back. So now there's two and she she's fighting with this one now and it's going at her and she's like getting closer to her pickaxe reaching for it like trying to get it and the last second gets it hits him a bunch of times and kills this thing. And she's like, like, in a fit of like panic and adrenaline. She's standing there. We see from a camera angle something approaching her and she senses it coming and she turns around with her pickaxe, stabs it through the throat. And it's Beth. Oh, my fucking God. but she doesn't die right

away like beth is like alive and choking on this thing and just like breathing raggedly breathing and staring at juno for a long extended period of time she drops to her knees and as she falls, she reaches for Juno and she grabs that big, nasty metal feather necklace and grabs it off of her neck and falls to the ground and kind of holding this necklace. And Juno looks just so freaked out, but doesn't do anything. And she just leaves. She just keeps moving. she does look very scared she yeah she's she looks in complete shock fucking christ but she does just leave her too so now okay so juno's by herself sarah is also by herself and she comes to again having a horrible realization Henley said something like just like the waking

up knowing that things are so bad like having a brief moment of reprieve being unconscious and then being like oh my god here I am still in a cave with monsters fucking pit of this cave

and I have a goddamn headache and it's not even yeah like the worst thing hasn't already happened to you I mean maybe it has but it's not gonna get much better but she has the camcorder yes Sarah has the camcorder so she can use that as light so when she

wakes up she has that and very quickly what happens is that the little Gollum creatures drag Holly's body like into the space where Sarah is and just start eating her. Yeah, it looks like their feeding area. And Sarah is just sitting there watching through the camcorder. This happened. It's all very close proximity in a way that's like

crazy that the creatures don't realize she's there but they're blind aha and i guess deaf like i it's crazy to me maybe they're not deaf but i think that you were saying that they can only they're not deaf they they we don't know this yet but but they... They're like bats? Yeah, there's a point in which they say they hunt with sound. Mm-hmm. But, so she's watching, yeah, through the camera. I think she's gagging. She's also trying not to throw up because she's fucking had a concussion. Oh my god.

So at some point she makes a, like, gagging noise. And one of the creatures turns to face her. And is so close to her face. And she's looking at it through the camcorder. And we see that its eye is, yeah, like milky white. Like it's not, there's no pupil. Like deep, dark cave creatures. Exactly.

Who don't need vision because it's so deep and dark. Yep, yep, yep. So they holly for the most part and then go on their way and sarah goes to holly's body and takes the base of the pickaxe that they had used for a splint for her and like takes

that off of her leg which is like a really awful moment of her like having to like take this thing off of her friend's dead body and she wraps a piece of clothing around the top of it and i guess they have some sort of gasoline or lighter fluid she pours that on lights it up so she has a torch now because it's a completely pitch black in there except for her being able to see through the camcorder. Then we go back to Rebecca and Sam in a totally different part of the cave.

And they hear one of the things coming and they just decide to huddle together silently and kind of lay down. And the monster, one of the cave cave monsters like crawls over them and completely passes them but they get a good look at i think it actually stops like right in front of them and they get a good look at it and same thing see that its eyes there's no pupil like it's just everything is white their whole their skin is white everything is like the same like almost translucent like nasty cave fucking creatures yeah i'm picturing like little cave salamanders but not as cute i don't know they sound pretty cute to me it passes them it doesn't see them and then as it's past them sam's watch alarm goes off like a timer and it's like and the creature turns back and is like lunging towards them and she's frantically like trying

to undo the watch like fuck fuck fuck fuck she gets it off last second throws it and so the creature gets to it sniffs it sees that there's nothing there. And he's like, okay, whatever. So they're dumb. They're pretty dumb. Yeah. Okay. Then Juno is by herself, obviously, and discovers arrows.

Like she like lights up the cave wall and she sees that there are markings of arrows pointing in a certain direction. Like someone has marked a path. Okay. And then we go back to Rebecca and Sam and then one of the monsters pops out of them again. They get in a fight. Rebecca is

fighting this cave monster and losing. She's not doing well. And then we hear like a and a pickaxe like goes into its back and we see that juno has thrown an axe at it juno walks up to it and snaps its neck like with her hands and she looks like a real fucking badass just like she says I think she says they got Holly and Beth is dead specifically

phrasing it in such a way yeah to cover her tracks and so then Juna says I think I found a way out I saw some arrows on the walls but I'm not leaving without Sarah we've got to find Sarah and so then we go back to Sarah and she's got her

torch now. She's moving through what seems to be like the pit, like the main pit of their like feeding area. It's like bones everywhere. It's blood everywhere. It's like so nasty. And as she's kind of climbing through here, a hand pops out and she goes over to it and it is beth and beth is not dead she is just like bleeding from her throat and still like gurgling on her blood like oh god and sarah says it's okay it's okay i'm like i'm gonna find juno we're gonna get you out of here and beth is like no don't find juno except it's like yeah yeah we don't think juno was trying to kill her no and i do think this is unfair i think it is unfair but she does act like she says um she did this to me don't trust her i think what she is trying to say is like juno

only fucking cares about herself. And that much we know. She's not thinking about anybody else's well-being, obviously. And so like, don't put your life in her hands because she's not going to look out for you. Well, she also I mean, Juno did almost kill her and then just leave her to die.

It's not like she tried to save her. She left her to die. She did not even ask one follow-up question like, are you okay? No, she just left her there to be eaten by the crazy cave monsters. At this point, Beth then hands Sarah the necklace. And Sarah looks at the necklace. And on the back, the necklace she'd grabbed from Juno. And on the back of this goddamn

gaudy ass feather that she's been wearing around her neck it says in big quotes love each day so the implication obviously being Sarah's husband gave it to Juno because they

were having an affair and Sarah looks like no no no no please no and Beth is like giving her this face like yeah like don't fucking trust her like she is a fucking sneaky ass bitch so okay okay

so this is probably why she didn't stick around yeah because she was also mourning the loss of her lover. Yes. And that's why her husband was being quiet after the water rafting. Yep. What a bad moment to learn this. I know. Also, Juno, you wore that

fucking necklace? Yeah, that's pretty stupid. Like, are you kidding me? Yeah, that makes me think she is, like, kind of a psychopath. Also, husband, you have a signature quote. First of all, crazy. Second of all, you give jewelry

to your mistress with your signature quote on it and she hangs out with your wife. You're all insane. Bad move for sure. None of it's good. None of it's good none of it's good so suddenly suddenly this movie becomes like kind of a revenge movie like all of a sudden it pivots and it's like oh sarah she's shit has gotten real for sarah things are just getting worse and worse for

sarah and she's losing her shirt more and more a good time no no this year has been this year has been really bad year for sarah um and then beth says please kill me basically she's like i'm like i'm suffering and please kill me and sarah's like no like i can't i can't do that don't ask me to do that and she's like please please don't leave me here sammy no oh my god and it's so hard and so she does right she does and so she says close your eyes and she picks up a big rock and she smashes her head with it um and so right after this, Sarah is kind of sitting stunned. We just get like a tight close up on her just taking in everything she's just learned, everything she's just done. And then a monster jumps on her back and it's actually a child monster, which I didn't realize. I didn't realize that either.

And so she kills it quite easily. She throws it off and like stomps its head. And then as right afterwards, then the like mom comes up and it's like a lady monster with like long hair and boobies. Yeah, the boobies. What was that? That was a firework. People have been setting off a lot of fireworks. Oh my God, that sounded so close.

So the mom monster comes up, sees her dead... Let's call her the booby monster. The booby monster. She's got some real boobs. She comes up, sees her dead child. Sees? Oh yeah, excuse me. Senses.

Senses. I was just literally curious. And is moaning, sad, mourning, and then turns her attention to Sarah. And Sarah makes a run for it. And as she's running, falls into this pool of blood. She completely submerges in it. It's interesting. It's kind of reminiscent of Carrie.

Yes. I'd say the whole rest of the movie she looks like carrie like she's soaked head to toe in blood the mom or excuse me the booby monster thank you is in there with her they have a big fight they're dragging each other into the blood out of the blood there's kind of a rock ledge in the in the blood pool that sarah climbs out onto and there's this piece of bone that she's able to grab and she slams it down into booby monster's eye and it explodes blood out and she just goes limp and she like slides back into the pool of blood and then Sarah is about to get up to keep moving and then she hears something coming she goes

still and another monster comes in and steps on her head it's like standing on top of her and not noticing it not noticing her and it makes a noise. And when it opens its mouth, this like nasty goop falls out onto Sarah's head.

It's like this puss throw up stuff. It's so gross. It looks like bile. Yeah. And it drips onto her head. God, I hated this. But it doesn't notice her, and then it keeps moving. Again, she looks so wild at this point.

She's, like, completely red head to toe. And she slowly moves after it and picks up this big, like, femur-looking bone. And it senses her at some point, turns around, she bashes its head in. So she's just after them now. Yeah, I mean, she's just like, she reaches a point of, like, just complete badassery, where she's like,

I'll fucking kill any of them. Everyone. Yeah. Kill them all. So she kills that one, and then she tilts her head back and lets out a big scream to call her friends in. And so we see Rebecca and Sam and Juno hearing her and they're like, OK, OK, let's go get her.

That would also call the monsters, though, right? Yeah, that's what I thought. It is. It's not the best. I mean, they hunt with sound, so probably wouldn't be my my first instinct but so they're they now are running towards her Sam is in the lead and then another group of monsters is chasing after them Sam gets to another part where they will have to crawl across a separate another ceiling it's like a different part where there's a new drop and pulls out her gear and starts like panic doing this and putting the thing in and one

after another and she's like fuck fuck fuck fucking like holding herself up and frantically trying to climb across this and it's so hard it's not a good thing to do frantically it's so hard and then uh juno and rebecca come up behind and they're like, no, no, no, Sam, like, don't do that. Don't do that. Come back like that. You can't do that. Turn around, turn around.

And then she's looking at them and then she turns back and there's a monster like on the ceiling because they can climb on walls and shit like spiders. And it is right on top of her and it like slits her throat with its finger, but she's not quite dead yet. And she pulls her knife out of her belt and stabs it and it falls down into the water below them. But then she dies and collapses, but's like hung in and her belt says it's horrible shot of her like body dangling and her sister watching her die and her sister lets out a big scream and is um devastated and then immediately is snatched by a monster and pulled back and juno goes to grab for her and the monster is basically tearing out her insides like tears up her stomach starts eating her intestines and juno is just like

okay i've got to fucking move and just jumps off of the side of this part of the cave into the water below then she goes to climb out of this pool of water and she's struggling. It's slippery, obviously. It's like trickling water down all of the walls. She climbs up pretty high and is about to get to this opening that she could go through and then starts to slip. And then Sarah's hand comes down, grabs her her pulls her in sarah looks like rabid almost and this is her first time obviously seeing juno since the initial run-in with the monsters and so she says rebecca and juno says no she didn't make it sam no she didn't make it she says, Rebecca. And Juno says, no, she didn't make it. Sam.

No, she didn't make it. She says, what about Beth? And Juno says, she didn't make it either. And Sarah says, you watched her die. And Juno says, yeah. And Sarah just kind of looks like. All right. says yeah and sarah just kind of looks like all right if you say so let's keep moving they each now have like a torch and an and an axe and they're kind of walking they see like where the arrows are leading them there's just a ton of the monsters blocking their way there's

like 10 of them and so they start fighting um juno like smashes one of their heads onto the cave wall like over and like bat like basically smashes one of their skulls like explodes it um sarah sticks her thumbs into one of their eyeballs and kills them that way. She bites one. Would that kill you? Well, I think if you went far enough, yeah. That shot's insane. It's just a slow thumb entering the eye.

Yeah, I don't like that one bit. It's really gross. She actually bites one of them in the throat. Oh, hell yeah. They're using their axes to stab them. We get like some skull stabs. It's just like a very violent crate. Like they're, it doesn't look

easy, but they are winning. And they basically each kill like four or five of these things. And then there's this, they did it. They're all dead it's just the two of them left Sarah spits out the

part that she bit off of one of them then they face each other and I mean aside from the affair it's your fault all our friends are dead well so then Sarah drops down in her hand.

She was holding the feather necklace and she drops it down to show it to Juno. And in this moment, it's two things that Juno knows that she knows. She's like, oh, that means she knows that I killed Beth. And that means she knows that I was having an affair with her husband. So it's this real oh fuck moment. Big one two punch. Yeah. And then they hear

more monsters coming. The sound of them like coming down the hallway. And Sarah just takes her pickaxe and swings it and stabs it into Juno's leg in this real nasty. It's like right in her knee.

And it like shows it like going through her knee and like poking out. Oh my God. But then Sarah turns to run, basically sacrificing Juno to save herself. And Juno pulls the axe out of her own knee. And Juno pulls the axe out of her own knee and turns around to face the direction that the sound is coming from, that the monsters are coming from. And there's so many of them. There's like 15. We cut to Sarah and we hear Juno just screaming.

And Sarah, I think there's still an arrow. She's still following arrows. She's running up this part of the cave that has these kind of bones on it again. And she's running up this weird bone path and slips and hits her head one more time. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. And you're just so mad. But it only lasts a second. And she wakes up again. Just a momentary knockout.

And then she sees daylight at the top of this little bone hill. Like maybe this is where the creatures bring in their kills from the above ground or whatever. So she's running up, gets out. It is daylight. Her hand pops out of the side of the hill. We see her make it out. She pulls herself out, screams and runs. And she's like running so fast that she's falling over.

Like she just cannot run fast enough. And then she gets to the cars that they drove, puts the keys in the ignition, starts it up. She drives so fast. She like gets air in the car. It's like flat, like driving so fast, flying over cliff. I mean, flying over the little potholes or whatever. Gets onto the main road and goes down and down. She's driving so fast and gets to a point where she's like, okay, like I think I'm far enough away.

And pulls over to the side of the road and just starts sobbing very traumatized she's so traumatized and she's sobbing and she rolls down her window vomits out the driver's side window and then as she's turning back into the car juno's ghost is in the passenger seat. And this is where it gets a little confusing because the American version ends there. That's the end. It's just Juno's ghost and then roll credits. What is her?

That's the version I saw. What does her ghost look like? It's just like, I guess, kind of like zombie-ish. Yeah, like kind of almost like waterlogged anyway it's a little insane because it's like okay like this is a uh a friend drama a family drama a monster movie a movie about like your own human like personal fears of being in claustrophobic spaces and it's a ghost movie that seems like

crazy that it's all those things the American version ends there there's another version yes there's a UK version so the UK version which I prefer and this is the one I had seen up in I only saw the US version this year I didn't even know that it existed

but UK version, she sees Juno in the passenger seat, screams, and then wakes back up in the cave at the final time where she had hit her head. And there is no daylight. And it was just a... That...

From her seeing daylight was just a dream. And she wakes back up and sees her daughter in the cave with her like she's imagining her daughter's birthday and they like that's a it's a recurring image throughout the film that we forgot to mention her daughter like blowing out the candles on her cake but then the camera pulls out and we see that she's still like deep in the belly of the cave. It's a much more hopeless ending.

I like, I definitely prefer the UK ending. I like it more too. But I think they also changed it because there is a descent too. So they wanted to make it more appealing for the sequel. Oh, it's so scary to imagine her.

It reminds me a lot of Alien. It reminds me of like her being thinking she's free. And then. Yeah, exactly. Realizing there's like. Yeah. False hope, which is such a common theme in horror movies. And when it's done well, it's like so gutting.

Holy shit. Honestly, that like that ending is really hopeless. But the idea that she would have gotten through all that shit just to then be haunted by Juno's fucking ghost also really sucks. Yeah, it sucks. God, I fucking love this movie. It was really good. it was really good um i i just yeah i think it's genius that it's only at the halfway point that they introduce the actual monsters like that's kind of unheard of i think i feel like usually by the first act you want to introduce your main villain and they're like nope yeah it already felt

like their deaths were an inevitability like right before monsters come into play like they're like nope yeah it already felt like their deaths were an inevitability like before monsters come into play like they're not making it out of there nature is so fucking scary I think it's the scariest thing and humans are not equipped to deal with it that's why we built all these systems to protect ourselves

from nature and survival of the fittest it's like that's not me I'm not that's not me i know that that's not me i have to take fucking medication every day just to survive my own brain nothing is happening to me i'm not in a cave i'm not like that's just me on a daily basis um emily what do you think do you want to see it no damn are you think? Do you want to see it? No. Damn.

Are you sure you don't want to see those cute little mole men? Yes. Look, could I be convinced at some point under the right circumstances to watch this movie? Yes.

Do I want to? No. Would I be happy that I did if I watched it? Yes. Do I want to? No. Would I be happy that I did if I watched it? Probably. Should I keep phrasing my thoughts this way? I have to say

I was not that scared. Here's the thing that's interesting to me, Henley. I think the kinds of movies we are scared of are very different. What did we learn from this movie? Don't trust a woman that wears large necklaces. Oh, that's huge. That's a huge one.

Don't go into a cave. Just, you know, ask a lot of questions. I think just have all the information before the guidebook for entering in an endeavor. Just make sure you have all the information before entering in an endeavor. Just make sure you have all the information. But mainly it's don't be adventurous. Don't. That's it. There it is.

It's safer at home. Safer at home. Safer at home. And there are a lot of accents in this movie. But do you guys want to do Scottish or Irish? Irish because also of normal people. Okay. Okay.

Conal. Conal. Conal. Conal Waldron. Um, so Holly is Irish. Let me think of something she says. Is caves a lot cooler than, oh, God damn it. Caves a lot cooler than I thought.

Caves a lot, caves a lot cooler than I thought. Caves, caves a lot cooler, cooler, cooler than I thought. Cooler than I thought. Caves, caves a lot cooler than I thought. Caves a lot cooler, cooler. Cooler than I thought. Cooler than I thought. Caves a lot cooler than I thought. So from all of us here at Too Scary to Watch, oh, goodbye. Oh, goodbye. Henley, I need to hear yours.

Goodbye. Oh, that was good. Yay. Hey, everyone. It's Henley. oh that was good yay five stars and also subscribe. We are on social media on Instagram and Twitter at TSDW podcast. All right. TTYL.