Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE EVIL DEAD with Stephen Unckles

Episode Date: August 28, 2019

A cabin in the woods, the Necronomicon, and so so SO many fluids - we're taking it back to the 80's! Stephen Unckles joins us to talk about Sam Raimi's 1981 classic, The Evil Dead.  Be warned, you'll never look at oatmeal the same way. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hello, everyone. Welcome back, hopefully, to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those of you too scared to watch for yourselves. I am Emily, and I'm a big scaredy cat. I'm Henley. I'm a big scaredy cat. Woo-hoo! I'm Sammy.

I'm becoming a brave person more and more every day. This podcast is changing my life. We're so jealous. We might get there. We might get there. No, I'm proud i'm proud to be on team scaredy cat i feel good about that that's part of my identity it's not changing i feel good good great um well this week we're back we're back at it we're doing uh evil dead the evil the evil dead made in 1981 yes classic horror film yes Yes. That's right. Directed by Sam Raimi. Right? Yes. Yeah.

I got nervous. And what else has, what else has he directed? He did the Spider-Man trilogy. Oh, you know what Sam Raimi did? Yes. Which we all need to note. Xena, the warrior princess. Oh, that's important. Wow. So he's really been all over the map. It's a good name, too. It's a name that you would be like, oh, I should know that name. Do you know what I mean? Maybe it's because I feel like I should know it. Should we intro our guest? Let's do it. We should intro our guest. Okay, guys, I'm so excited. We have a really special guest on this week his name is steven uncles he's a comedy writer and even more importantly uh the beloved husband of our

dear friend kathleen um and father of their miniature poodle tuffy. We love Tuffy. We're going to have on as a guest one day, but not this week. Hi. That's Stephen. And that's an intro for Tuffy, Stephen's dog. Hey, Stephen. My dog is great. Those are the pillars of my identity. Thank you. You know, you don't often get to hear

someone introduced as husband of and here on the podcast, that's how we like to do things. I welcome it. We're so happy to have you here thank you it's good to be here loving the show what's your relationship to uh to scary movies steven have you always loved them are you scared of them you still like them what's what's the deal i like scary movies i like being wound up psychologically but i cannot handle torture of any kind. I don't want to see it. I don't want to know that it's in a movie because I don't want it in my head. I don't want...

Those images. I don't want... I also don't want to support creative people who are really good at thinking up fun ways to torture people. Yeah. That's not cool. As opposed to like it's just a straight up murder. A straight up murder.

I love those. I love those. But if some guy's like, oh, I got this great screenplay idea. It's someone tied up for seven days and then we burn them slowly i'm like no like it's a waste of time don't make that movie yeah no i get that i get that i get that um what's the scariest movie you have ever seen like the most like psychologically damaging movie for me yeah hmm probably like the first

hostile movie did you see that movie oh god no but that's a perfect definition of like a torture porn yeah horror movie 100 is that the one where they like cut someone over a bathtub like hanging up oh my god maybe that is the first it's one of the hostile movies yeah like someone's why have i seen both of them i don't know i think there've been more than two haven't there been multiple multiple? It's like a Saw franchise. Oh, God. There's dozens of Foster movies. Yikes.

You know what that jingle means. It's cocktail hour. The cocktail we chose to pair with this week's movie, The Evil Dead, is a corpse reviver. There are quite a few variations of corpse reviver. We've gone with the original, Corpse Reviver number one. To make this drink, you combine an ounce and a half of brandy, three quarters of an ounce of Calvados, which is an apple brandy, and three quarters an ounce of sweet Italian vermouth, and combine it all with ice, strain into a cocktail glass and garnish with a maraschino cherry. Some trivia for you,

this drink was originally created as a hangover cure, hence the name Corpse Reviver, but I think I would rather die than drink this hungover. It is a very strong drink. Every ingredient is alcohol, but you know, whatever gets you through. And I think it's the perfect drink to get us through the evil dead. It's really good. It's really good. I didn't expect this podcast to be expanding

my cocktail horizons. And it is. That's why I'm here. It's for this cocktail. Yeah. Steven's on his 17th cocktail. It's delicious. Wait, I also wanted to say that the results of the hot dad and the witch poll has been really upsetting to me.

It's upsetting, Sammy, but is it surprising? But I do have some other people that agree with me. Steven, did you look at this poll? Are you aware of the poll? I'm aware of the poll. Yeah. Isn't that the guy who plays like the,

like Augie? Yes. He's like the most outrageous person in the British office. Is that hot? Wait guys, right now it's at 50, 50. I don't buy it.

Yes. It's at 50, 50 right now. it changes at all the time so wow okay keep tuning in i'll i'll take that week by week it is crazy he's he's not hot he's not hot i was gonna say it i would love to he's not hot there's something though and if there's a hot dad in this movie please no hot know. No hot dads in this movie? No hot dads. Bummer. I did find some reviews. I managed to find

some from the 80s. And out of a possible 100, this was like a Metacritic score or whatever. The LA Times gave it a 100 out of a possible 100. That's too high. It is definitely too high.

And they said, unquestionably, it's an instant classic. Probably the grisliest well-made movie ever. So, I don't know. Kevin Thomas really loved it. Well-made?

And then the Philadelphia Inquirer gave it 25 out of 100. Too bad it's hogtied by ridiculously familiar plot uneven direction and characters of such dizzying simplicity that you wish the demons would get to them just to smack some sense into their heads so really like top to bottom we got the whole spectrum of reviews right there both in uh 1983 so so let's watch the trailer let's watch the trailer let's watch the trailer okay i fear that the only. Let's watch the trailer. Okay.

I fear that the only way to stop those possessed by the spirits of the book is through the act of bodily dismemberment. I don't care what happens to her. She's your girlfriend. You take care of her maybe we should like sort of talk about the evil dead let's talk about the universe because uh army is army of darkness part of this yes okay tell us the do you know the order of all of them certainly think i do tell us okay so okay so know the order of all of them? I certainly think I do. Tell us.

Okay, so Sam Raimi and his high school friends made Evil Dead 1 for no money at all. And the production value is not super high, but you can tell that someone just really wanted to get this movie made. Just like really, there's so much effort went into it. Anyway, so there's the first movie evil dead and then evil dead 2 the beginning of which is essentially like a it seems like it's maybe a remake of the first movie but like the whole first movie takes place in the first like 20 minutes of evil dead 2 wait was it clips from the first movie or did they literally remake the first movie again i read this there are no clips from the first movie because they lost the rights to the footage

from the first movie. Of the other movie? How did they do that? I don't know how that happened. I mean, you know, shady film deals back in the day, I'm sure. So yeah, so they recap

with like a lot of the same scenes, but it extends the story very slightly from Evil Dead 1. And then Evil Dead 3 or Army of Darkness, Ash goes back in time. And that's the third movie, but it's still the same character. Okay. And then also I should add that there is a TV show that I think had two seasons. And that was recent.

Recent. Called Ash vs. Evil Dead, which is set in the goofy universe that sort of is set up by Army of Darkness Evil Dead 3. So it is a full universe of films and the remake in 2013 is it a remake of evil dead 1 or just another film in that universe it's a remake of evil dead 1 have you seen that one i have not but i'd like to now that i'm now that i enjoyed watching evil dead 1 the original again i'd like to check it out um okay so i don't i know clearly i know nothing about this movie should we just go walk through it i want to hear yeah

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where are tennessee specifically in fact i think one of the first lines say that because we like oh they do say that yeah he says i think he looks at a map he says we just crossed the border in tennessee okay okay there we go and so uh they're it starts out with this sort of like weird moment they're driving in their car and you know they're talking each other in this cool like way which shows how young they are they're really they're talking to each other in this cool way where it shows how young they are. They're razzing each other, just like you want from young people in a movie. I love to be razzed. Here comes a tow truck barreling down the road with them

and the driver of the car, I think his character's name is Scott. It's Scotty. Okay, wait. Let's say all the characters' names just so we can reference them easily. In the car we have Ash, played by Bruce Campbell, Okay, wait. Yeah, let's say all the characters' names just so we can reference them easily. Good idea. Okay.

In the car, we have Ash, played by Bruce Campbell, who you may be familiar with. Lots of different things he's been in. Here's something fun, and maybe the reason I chose this movie is a long time ago, I was a production assistant for a production company that was making these like movie clip show specials and they had like these very elaborate like wraparounds what they call them but like live bits and they hired bruce campbell to be the host and so there were uh two different moments in the production of this like scary movie special uh where i was the hand double for bruce campbell oh my and how does one get that job one is roughly the same size as bruce campbell specific to hands so there was this bit where he was sewing something and uh he was talking

and gesticulating his hands and then revealed that he has sewed his hands together so the makeup artist did his hands sewn together but my arms i was pressed up against his butt with my arms waving my hands around. Wait, so it wasn't even like you instead of him, you did like the thing that you put your hand, like a joke hands through somebody else's hands. That's exactly right. And you were pressed up against Bruce Campbell's butt while doing this.

That's exactly right. Wow, so you touched Bruce Campbell's butt? Not only that, but. With your like body? With my body, I touched it. You upright spooned him. That's it. You upright spooned him. That's exactly right. I upright spooned him and it was very sweaty and very hot.

But the best thing I remember most about it is that I got his wardrobe because we were the same size. And so at the end of it and it was like the nicest clothes I'd ever owned because it was like Banana Republic and I had never had such nice pants before in my life. Do you still own them? No, but I wore them for a long time. Every single day for six years. Every single day for six years. And then the other time, he had been put in a grave and his hands had to burst out. And they weren't going to make him do that, so I did it.

Wow, so two scenes. Two different scenes. All right, great. Good anecdote. Okay, so let's go back a little bit. In the car, we have Ash, Scotty, Scotty's girlfriend, and it says in one line, Ash's sister. Oh, I didn't catch that. Shelly.

Okay. Ash's beautiful girlfriend, Linda. Mm-hmm. And then the single girl, Cheryl. Cheryl. Yeah. And they're all together jam-packed in this big old hoopty. And they're going to a cabin in the woods.

And then they cross this bridge that is the scariest bridge ever. And their tire bursts through it. And they almost crash into the water straight off the bat. It's like bad omens for this cabin. Yeah, it's this old wooden bridge. They're straight off the bat. It's like bad, bad omens for this cabin. Yeah. It's this old wooden bridge. They're deep in the, deep in the woods. You know, actually one thing happens before that, which I think sets the tone, which I think it's maybe important to notice when they're driving, there's a big tow truck barreling toward them.

And there's some sort of a mysterious POV in the woods above them. Like you don't see what it is. It's a, it's a point of view shot. Where are they looking from? Exactly. And it looks down and sees the cars happening and in that moment as it looks down it seems to spin the wheel in scotty's hand and the car almost hits right right right so just that's we start it does establish early on there's an entity watching them of some sort of some sort and then they get to the terrifying bridge terrifying bridge which is the only way to this cabin what time of day are we driving this is daytime okay let's say 5 30 p.m oh yeah i was expecting it to be nighttime well

it's gonna be nighttime pretty soon yeah 5 30 we're getting there that's not a lot of day shots in this movie no it's mostly night um so yeah then they get to the cabin and there's a rocking chair out front that's like slamming into the door. No, thank you. And they're reaching for the keys and trying to open the door. And then as he like grabs the keys, the rock or as he like steps near the rocking chair, it stops swinging. Yeah. Inexplicably. Very spooky.

So spooky. And is their car like shot? Now they can't get in the car and go back at this point no they're not like scared yet they're i mean it's just i mean like the tire blow out no no it was like a near miss it was like it was like the bridge started to break a little bit but they made it but they made it across feels like at this point they should definitely have decided not to do this but But I guess that's the point of all scary movies. All scary movies, they don't really... They never turn back. Yeah. They never really think about what's going on.

Until it's far too late. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, then they, I feel like pretty quickly go into the basement of this very scary, like pretty clearly haunted place. Yeah. of this very scary, like pretty clearly haunted place.

Yeah. Well, they go inside and they're looking around and Cheryl, the single one, is like drawing a clock for some reason. She's like, this is like, you know, the 80s and back when

in your free time you would draw things. And she's drawing a clock. Before cell phones. And then all of a sudden she's forced somehow to draw on her pad what looks like a book.

Some sort of evil takes over her hand. And she doesn't tell anybody about it. Is she scared? She looks scared, but then it's like, huh, better go out and join my friends for dinner. And they're drinking what Jenna and I were like, is this a smoothie? They're drinking a blended blood red beverage and toasting with it and

i was like i'm not sure what this is supposed to be the first of many mysterious fluids well yeah in trying to choose the cocktail we were thrown by this trying to recreate blood smoothie but who knows what it is. Anyways, yeah, just as someone interested in beverages. Yeah, but you're right, though. They wind up going into the dark cellar. Why do they go into the cellar? Does it make a noise or something?

The door throws itself open. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. Wait, so many good tropes already. We got the rocking chair. Yeah. We got the door throwing itself open. Wow.

Okay. Amazing. Go on. Scotty goes down first, and then Ash follows, and Scotty is, like, nowhere to be seen, and he's kind of walking around. Music is great in this moment. Yeah. Music is great throughout, I feel like.

What's the music like? It's just unlike anything I'd ever heard before i don't know is it just like a bunch of dissonant noises is it strings is it a lot of percussive noises that's exactly all those things symphony of sound uh and then there's the first there's a jump scare when Scotty was hiding yeah and jumps out oh Scotty another trope yep you think it's gonna be

the real thing and it's just like a friend being silly razzing ya razzing ya okay but this is the key they're down in this basin and they find

the book the Necronomicon do they ever say Necronomicon they never do but I know for a fact that's what it is I know because I saw that's the name of the book

I saw in the description it's like a group of friends find the Necronomicon but they never say it yeah well do they all and they also find a recording that's a like about the book yeah they find a recording the recording and they play it uh the recording is the professor who had previously um been staying in this cabin and he says that he had been he had been in the far east doing research and had found this book and begun the translation uh right the far east sure that's okay to say honestly i don't think that's what he says but i imagine that's where it was he found this book bound in human flesh inked in human blood right that is a gross creepy part

yeah and it is like a fleshy looking book it's very lumpy oh like it looks like it was bound in human scrotums we should oh my god i mean i'm adding that to the lore i don't know if that's true but it is entirely made of scrotums oh my god i think that's fact yeah that's we'll take it as no thanks on that book um um and then the recording of the professor they like keep it playing and he's reading like this passage that you it's a lot of cross-cutting in this movie you like see outside he's awakening something and the thing is now coming towards the cabin as the recording as the recording is playing yeah it's waking up and the thing is now coming towards the cabin as the recording as the recording is playing yeah it's waking up and the professor says all from the things pov it's just like you

never see the thing that's spooky and the professor says explicitly like these are the words that you use to summon the undead and they're like turn it off and scotty's like no i want to hear it is the girl putting it together that she was just forced to draw a book moments ago? The girl literally never mentions that to anyone. It's really weird. She literally, a crazy, crazy thing happens to her. And she's like, well. Other crazy things happen to her that she never mentions either.

That's true. And they don't see that this book is nasty and wild, right? And they're like still cool with it being read this is a different time you know if you find something about a human flesh you're like bummer but still better check it out i'm so glad disco is gone oh and the other thing they find down there is like a is like a really weird knife with skulls on it it's like yeah it needs to be found from some sort of archaeological dig that'll and he says this looks like your ex-girlfriend and they have a real good laugh about it about the knife but it's like the funniest acting it's just like

it's really crazy yeah okay okay so they read the they hear the book being read yeah so then the thing has awakened it cuts to a scene well yeah i'm gonna skip some stuff but there's a scene in which ash gives his girlfriend steven i'm dying to know is this a magnifying glass necklace what is it it is a magnifying glass necklace and this scene is crazy they they he just has like a little cardboard box inside is a gift he has for his girlfriend you think maybe it's going to be an engagement ring or something what it is is just a magnifying glass on a chain but they it's so weird i swear to god they filmed this scene for three days out of a five day shooting schedule there are 200 shots in the scene of like him pretending to be asleep her like looking at him his eyes closing super close up of her hand taking the box

uh and it was and it's just like a like a dinky magnet metal magnifying glass on a chain which is like that's like an insult to someone like it's because you're so short-sighted gift is that a normal gift no a gift to someone like it was a different time it was a different time or if it's referencing something in their relationship that they don't i would love to imagine they have a rich backstory explanation for this gift but maybe it's because she really sees ash oh that's nice that's really great but they do have dropping knowledge bombs left and right on this movie. I do like it.

But anyway, you do get a sense that they really care about each other. And then that scene ends and we go and visit. Straight into, I feel like, the craziest scene. Yeah. Okay, so Cheryl's in her room. The entity, you see his POV looking into. Cheryl's the one who drew the book. Yes, and she's the single one. Okay.

Always the first he's looking into each room and he sees like this couple and that couple and then cheryl easy i don't want to get in the middle of a couple so much work she's in there she's in the room he's looking through and she's in the room brushing her hair like girls always do before they go to bed for an hour yeah you have. It's good for your hair oils. She looks down at her drawing of the book and then... Does she get dragged outside or does she go outside? No, she goes outside.

She hears, Join us. Did she really? Very subtle, yeah. Yeah, and why wouldn't you go outside to see what that was? She's single.

She's trying to join somebody. She goes outside and I'm going to let you take this one because i'm not comfortable with this even is scared to talk about okay it's because i'm getting scared i'm a little scared to talk about it too i'm a little scared um i don't love where this feels like it's going so she's going into the forest and she kind of like walks way too far in for someone that's... Is she maybe possessed? No.

Oh, boy. So basically, tree branches start coming out at her, wrapping her wrists and arms. And it slowly becomes clear that she is being raped by trees. No. Branches's a shot i don't know i mean tell us a shot tell us there's a shot of a branch like blowing into her vagina i guess she's wearing underwear but yeah it goes right for it it's like right crazy you see it you see it penetrate the underwear you don't like see it this is all dark we should say that this whole whole show was shot with like three lights so you don't see you see almost nothing okay you don't see it but it's definitely the implication like she is being penetrated by tree branches oh my god it's real crazy and i can tell jenna

was not a fan of this scene also crazy that well this is the scene that i knew was coming so i was a little more i was bracing for it but this is also another crazy example of how cheryl just doesn't tell anybody anything that's happening because she never tells anybody about this oh she goes back in and is just like she's not normal she's like she does escape oh she's been possessed though that's why right well not normal she's like she does escape oh she's been possessed though that's why right well not yet she's just gone through this horrible traumatic experience no she's running in and she goes she so oh my god she gets away and um she runs in and is like we gotta go and they're i don't know kind of like making fun of her or like questioning her they're

like scott is being a real jerk yeah they're like what are you know, kind of like making fun of her or like questioning her. Scottie's being a real jerk. Yeah, they're like, what are you talking about? Did she not have like marks on her? Oh, this is the part from the trailer. This part from the trailer where she says, they were like, was there someone in the woods? And she says, it was the woods themselves. And they're like, you realize how crazy you sound.

She's like, I don't care how I sound. I mean, we just found a fucking flesh book and shit keeps happening. She says, I don't care what you think. I just take me to town right now. I mean, regardless, they're bad friends, right? Like, that's pretty clear. Well, Ash is like, let's go.

And they go. So Ash and her get into the car and he's like, I'll take you back to town or whatever. And then the bridge is donezo. They get there, right? and the bridge has like collapsed it doesn't collapse it seems as if it's exploded like although the iron beams are like bent up it looks like a hand very deliberately and she's like screaming it's not gonna let us leave it won't let us leave i know it's not gonna let us leave that's very scary um then this is a crazy moment where like they're panicking ash is like what the

fuck happened to this bridge it looks like a like a giant grabbed it and destroyed it and then it cuts from that shot to someone outside the cabin just chopping wood everything's chill like on a new day or just like later like they get back in the car and drive back to the cabin but okay so anyway it cuts back and ash is like listening to the recorder again and he's hearing the professor say like the only way to stop them is to dismember them. Sadly, it's taken over my wife. And he's like, hmm, but he's just listening to an earpiece, so no one else hears that, which is like,

hey, Ash, relay some information here. No one talks to each other in this movie. It's just like keeping their very important experiences to themselves. Yeah, but then as he's listening like cheryl starts to i mean she basically goes demonic she just sort of she like gets possessed the one who got with the trees yeah one yes so she all of a sudden is yeah like a demon and again like turns up to 11 real quick like they're like she's like at first, her eyes are rolled up in her head or whatever. Like, something creepy is happening with her eyes.

And she, like, just looks kind of gross. And then, like, very quickly, she's, like, a thousand years old. And, like, her hands are, like, made of sausage meat. Her eyes are white. That's the scariest thing. They have, like, full of her fake eyes. The eyes are really creepy. And she's floating and saying like also I like your soul are they all just in the living room all this thing happens in a tiny cabin yeah and then

and then she she says that she's gonna get them all one by one okay and then she collapses exhausted collapse like we're gonna get you all how did you wake you woke us from our slumber I want that to be what her voice sounds like it's very similar I could be I'm not wrong right no you're not wrong

and I feel like I feel like acting in this movie must have been really fun because it's just like so insane wait her hands are made of sausage meat

I would have worried about that well it's because they had no money for the effects. Everything's like extremely obvious, like how fake it is. They just bought it from the grocery store. But somehow it's still pretty effective.

So she stabs someone. Oh, yeah. No, she collapses exhausted. And then they're like, oh, is she OK? OK, right, right. And then she grabs one of her pencils from earlier and stabs Linda. Ashley's girlfriend, Linda, gets stabbed in the ankle. In the Achilles.

Oh, ow, ow, ow. It's pretty graphic, right? Judging by the trailer. Yes. grabs linda his ash's girlfriend linda gets stabbed in the ankle in the achilles oh and it's pretty graphic right judging by the trailer yes it's very gross and we get some fluids here this is maybe the first of the flu the flu this is the first of fluids not getting a blended drink not getting a drink versus the human fluids um And they like wrangle, or she like passes out, or did they wrangle her into the basement? They wind up wrangling her in the basement. They kick her into the basement.

So she goes down that trap door into the dark cellar, and they lock it really fast. And there's this great shot of Scotty, like she's like hitting the trap door to try and get out. And there's a shot of Scotty just like sitting on it, like not knowing what to do, as it just keeps getting hit and hit and hit. And then that's the end of the moment. They on it, not knowing what to do. It just keeps hitting, hit, and hit, and hit. And then that's the end of the moment.

They're like, and cut to the next morning. No, it's never the next morning. OK, OK. It's never the next morning. It's never the next morning. This whole movie takes place over one night. Yeah. So Linda is sleeping through all of the next scene,

which is crazy. How easy is it to sleep when someone stabs a hole through your ankle bone hole it's like oh you're bleeding a lot through your ankle go lay down go lay down yeah like no no medical attention needed right go lay down yeah just sleep it off and she sleeps through just wait till you hear what she sleeps through i can't wait to find out okay so shelly's in her bedroom looking out the window yeah and you see it from both povs like she's looking out and it's looking in and then it runs at her comes at her and she screams and then it cuts to scotty like looking for her being

like trying to find her and then she like jumps out of the closet or something yeah and or no it's in the bathroom i think he looks in the bathroom and then he turns around and she's there. Oh, I hate that stuff in scary movies. And she jumps out and, okay, he somehow stabs her in the wrist first. And this was a question that I had because her response to being stabbed in the wrist was to chew her own hand off. Am I wrong about that? No, that's right. It doesn't make any sense. She just like turns her direction to i'm gonna eat my own

hand right now and i was like what is what is happening why is this her response she possessed at this point oh yeah yeah she's got the whole crazy look tons of makeup on her face white eyeballs maybe it's like a power move of like oh you think that i care that you stab me i'll take my own fucking hand it's crazy i have no limits it's crazy I'll take my own fucking hand off. It's crazy. I have no limits. It's crazy. Yeah, so she eats her own hand off. Oh, my God. How do they deal with her? I don't remember this.

You know, it went back and forth a few times. Like, it kept being like, oh, she's dead now. And then she was alive again. So he, I think, stabs her through the chest. And then it's like they think she's dead. And then she pops back alive. they i think ash has an axe and he's like ash like chop her up oh my god oh my god and is he like ash is like a big baby bitch like he can't do anything ash truly is pretty useless for the most part of this whole movie and he's like I can't do it and so Scotty

grabs the axe from Ash's hands and chops up his own girlfriend because Ash can't participate and this is where fluids are really flowing there's black blood red blood white blood

in this movie there's blue blood white that I. There's a lot of- There's blue blood. White that I don't like. A lot of white fluid that I'm not- Very gross. Yes, it's Pepto-Bismol-esque. It's very gross. Oh, God.

Oh, God. Okay, right. So, yeah, he chops her into a bunch of pieces. And you just watched that happen? Yes. I mean, it's like 80s effects. What is she doing when she's being chopped up? Is she trying to kill them?

The whole time, all the demonic possessions are very, they're just so ramped up. They're screaming so much. Are they trying to, and Linda's sleeping. She's still screaming? It's so wrong. It's nonstop screaming. They're just screaming so much.

It's crazy. It's crazy. It's not like a zombie where they're trying to eat you or anything they want you dead they just want to kill you these zombies are the zombies this movie are awesome because they're just so gleefully evil like there's nothing there's no other motivation besides they love to be terrible and see pain and enjoy misery. Is that right? I mean, it seems that way. They're just like, yeah, join us for no reason. Nihilistic. Yeah.

Okay. So then Scott chops up his girlfriend and he's like, I'm out. I'm leaving. Let's go. And Ash is like, I can't go. My girlfriend can barely walk because she got stabbed in the ankle. She's not possessed yet also. And she's so fast asleep at this point.

She's just in deep sleep. Okay. She's so tired. Someone gave that girl a's just in deep sleep. She's so tired. Someone gave that girl a Xanax or something. That makes no sense. Okay, so Scott leaves. Ash goes to check on her. Goes in and looks at the ankle.

And the second he looks at the ankle, the ankle turns black. Spider webs. Goes evil. And she pops up and she's a demon now too. Oh my god. Oh my god. He's like, get her down in the basement with the other one. Yeah. Oh my god. linda sits up terrifyingly

linda's super creepy she's super creepy her style of demonic possession is she laughs non-stop oh i just got chills i just got chills she's just literally rocking going i also love to think that this actress was like, I'm making a different choice. I see what you girls did. I'm going to make a different choice. Good for her. Good. Honestly, really good for her.

She's making a mark for herself. Yeah. I appreciate it. She comes after Ash, and then Scott's back right away, completely destroyed outside by the tree outside by yeah he's like oh he's got like branches sticking out of him and stuff his face is all messed up he's gonna die he says they're not we can't get out of here we gotta leave and so this is in the middle of him fighting his girlfriend linda wait can i ask one more question what happened to their car

he was trying to run through the woods like wouldn't he get in the car the bridge the car is fine but the bridge is no good i know you keep talking about this bridge but there's literally no other way there's no other way there's no other way okay i think look for another way right they should have looked for another i feel like you get in the car though no matter what you know what i mean like i don't want to run i don't want to run through the woods by myself well but it's like dense with trees it's there's no road okay fair enough you've been to the woods i'm sorry i will stop second guessing your descriptions and the choices made in the plot of this movie but okay honestly getting in the car might have been a good idea because

the house is haunted the car we don't know okay so he's destroyed by the trees and meanwhile linda is still trying to kill she's still laughing at Ash and being like Ash we're gonna get you we're gonna kill you she starts rhyming I don't remember the rhyme where can I get you

don't go to sleep something like that it's really creepy I don't like that at all. So Scott is like on the couch like dying and he's like, and Ash has gotten a shotgun from downstairs. Ash is pouring water into his mouth. Is this, has this happened yet?

This was I think my favorite part of the, this is my favorite part of the whole movie is he's like talking to Scotty who is like dead, like very much dead. Like literally his arm bone sticking out. Oh my God. And he's pouring water into his mouth like trying much like literally his arm bone sticking out and he's pouring water into his mouth like trying to like nurse him well he's like just ignorant to the fact that he's dead he's like it's okay scotty we're gonna get out of here and the water's just like overflowing in his mouth and he's completely non-responsive and it takes him like truly two minutes of pouring water into his mouth to be like scotty it's so clear that he's dead yeah wow but uh so a situation winds up where

he's he has a shotgun pointed at his uh the love of his life linda to whom he gave this magnifying glass you know someone's very special glass necklace has like appears a lot like as if it has meaning a huge significance and i'm like i kept being like it's a fucking magnifying glass necklace the necklace that they could afford to make this movie it's a symbol of their love okay i guess i don't i do not know why you wouldn't do an engagement ring but it is a magnifying glass yeah that was a huge choice on the Sam Raimi's part. Anyway, this is my scariest moment of the film. Okay. Where he has the shotgun pointed at her head,

and he's like really overacting like, oh God, I can't do it. I can't shoot her. And Mike's in the background being like, kill her, kill her, kill her. And also like, it's clearly not her, man. Just shoot her. This is the thing.

This is why it's so scary. He turns to talk to Scott for a second, and then she starts talking normally. He turns around. The makeup is gone. She's normal, and she is like, oh, God. Please don't let them take me back. Help me. Don't let that happen again.

Don't let them take me over again. No, don't let them take me back there. The implication being that she has been in hell while this thing is digging over her body. My God. Very scary. And then, we didn't mention this, but good old Cheryl, the crazy one. Oh my God, she's still in the basement.

In the basement, has been, throughout the movie, pounding on the trap door, getting her face up there and being like, kill him, kill him, kill him. Just her terrifying zombie face poking up and then just cheering on her fellow demon possessed people yeah and then so uh so linda's fine now and we hear all of a sudden we hear uh cheryl from underneath underneath the door being fine too and being like oh my god i'm fine too please help me could you open the door

oh right does she really say oh my god i'm fine too i i want it is so like it's like ash ash are you out there ash could you open the door i'm okay down here ash wow that's creepily calm that's suspicious that's a little bit of a suspicious and then while they're looking while they're listening to the trapdoor, Linda. Yeah. She comes repossessed again. It's like, oh, God, no. And she's got that big, scary knife.

And she stabs Ash. Yeah, she stabs Ash in the arm, I think. Yeah. And then she licks the knife. Oh, yeah. Licking the knife. Licks the knife. Slowly and creepily.

Yeah. Big, long. It's the skull knife that looks like his ex-girlfriend. If you're writing a paper up for symbolism class, maybe that's symbolic. Something to include. Oh, I like that. And then anyway, she gets stabbed with that knife. So she seems

to die. You're like, oh, maybe this knife has special power. This is when she vomits white blood out of her mouth for like an hour. It's very powerful. For like an hour it's very powerful i don't know if we've emphasized enough the fluids in this movie are non-stop non-stop non-stop everything is leaking and squirting everyone is bleeding violently there's so much when i think that they shot they were sleeping in the same place they were shooting this and that's how low budget this movie was so imagine the floor just caked with uh like corn syrup and food coloring and it was like really i

think it was really cold so it's all like stuck to you and everything it's like frozen to the floor okay so anyway he comes back she seems to be dead he picks her up and he's like oh linda linda i love you so much and he takes her out to the shed oh and there's a scene which i think everyone should know a scene which is edited by joel cohen oh he was the he was an assistant editor at the place where this movie was edited and he edited this sequence which is very famous where she's she's ash puts her down on a table and like chains her to this bench somehow for some reason this place has chains on sure just on hand why not chains her down this bench. Somehow, for some reason, this place has chains on it. Sure, just on hand. Why not?

Chains her down. I mean, it has a lot of other weird stuff, so. That's true. He grabs a chainsaw. He fires it up. And he's about to dismember her body. He goes, and then he whizzes out.

He whizzes out again. Because he has a big baby. He's a big baby. He checks out. He's also, it's the love of his life. He's like, oh, Linda, I can't do it, Linda. Oh, Linda. So then he decides to bury her, takes her outside.

Right, right, right, right. Don't do that. Don't do that. To be clear, at this point, it's the only person. Wait, because he looks at the magnifying glass necklace. That's the thing that he's like, I can't do it. Look at that beautiful necklace. It's true.

That symbol of our love. Yeah. I couldn't possibly. so he decides to bury her so he takes her outside he digs a big hole very quickly throws her in the hole covers it up she came through walls like two minutes ago puts a big but she's was stabbed with a magic knife so you're like well maybe she's really. Big old cross goes in the top. He looks down. What does he see? The magnifying glass necklace. Somehow it's been left on some leaves next to the grave.

He bends down to pick it up. And all of a sudden, hand reaches through the grave, grabs his ankle. And just with their fingernails, like rips his whole ankle off. She's gotten out of the grave very quickly. And he beats her with like a wooden beam that's lying on the ground that clearly weighs six pounds but could not in real life possibly weigh less than 300 pounds like the sound effects are ridiculous the movie sort of takes a strange turn here like someone was like we got to keep this part where he beats him with a with the beam beats her with the beam and it just it's just really bad that's a low point of the movie for me is just like the

30 seconds of like whomp whomp very bad sound effects they're fighting outside next to the grave and she does something which is very crazy she does like a

like a superhero jump at him like they're fighting and then like suddenly they're filming from underneath and she's like her whole body flies across the frame

like she's jumping at him and during the course of the jump he grabs his shovel and then in one swing cuts off her head oh my god so she's like

face forward arms stretched out ahead of her as if she's Superman as if she's jumping across buildings or something

to grab to their side I don't know what her plan was but her head gets chopped off and it flies off and falls and lands on the ground next to him and so she's finally been dismembered and falls and lands on the ground uh next to him and so

she's finally been dismembered but her body lands on his body yes and her neck stump is on his face pouring blood again another bucket full of blood onto his face right in his face and you're cutting this is the black this is this is the black blood and we're cutting to the head who's laughing i want to know the teats it seems like the head knows what's happening with the body and is laughing at the blood squirting it's really having a great time having just been cut off yeah but then the body slumps over and it appears that she's dismembered so finally she's dead so thank god okay uh then he goes back inside and he knows that he's in deep trouble so this is when he goes to the basement yeah uh and he goes back to the basement deep trouble. So this is when he goes to the basement. Yeah.

And he goes back to the basement because he needs, let's say, more shotgun shells as White goes down in there. Okay, what? He just goes back into there with Cheryl? And he doesn't bring the chainsaw? He doesn't bring the chainsaw.

No, we never see the chainsaw again. Does he forget she's down there? Let me tell you guys, Ash is stupid and he's a big baby. Okay. Big baby loser. Stupid big baby loser.

Stupid big baby loser. If our listeners are familiar with Bruceuce campbell in this movie his voice hasn't changed yet he still has a high-pitched voice like a 14 year old like that's how young he was in this movie and how stupid he was but if you watch evil that too he smartens up okay uh so this is when the basement fills with blood like the light bulb this is for me another really scary moment yeah the walls start leaking blood there's like an electrical outlet that leaks blood the pipe bursts leaking blood and it just sprays the blood in his face for a long time oh it's very around the basement looking for the shotgun shells looking for the shotgun shells he gets them the whole movie this is when it like takes a turn and everything gets real trippy it's like an acid trip every angle is dutch oh everything's crazy there gets real trippy. It's like an acid trip. Every angle is Dutch.

Oh, yeah. Everything's crazy. There's this long shot that is just an upside-down shot of the back of his head, and then eventually it sort of spins around and gets to his face. But it just starts out just upside down as he walks into the living room. Whoa, that's interesting. That's kind of cool. I mean, I know it sounds kind of shitty when we're talking about it,

but the filmmaking is really, really good. And the whole end of this movie is just stunt people, like Sam Raimi's brothers. Wait, how far into the movie are we at this point? We're almost done. This is at the end. So it doesn't get super arty, the sharts. Yeah. But what's the thing that triggers this final?

Don't edit that out. The shots. The shots aren't... aren't... I can aren't get it out now the shots aren't artistic until the very end they're not no they are i feel like there's a lot of like canted angles a lot of pov shots like it's using it's using ramp it up they really ramp every every single shot is really trippy the music is really wild like you're just all inside ash's head as he's totally terrified doesn't know what's gonna happen technically cheryl is still alive at this point and so is maybe scott they're all dead and they're all evil dead okay even scotty's possessed uh we saw scotty die when we were trying to pour water oh he died then but here in this climactic final fight sequence,

which happens as they go up upstairs, everyone is back. All your favorites are back. Okay, okay. There's lots of fluids. Wait, even the dismembered ones are back? Even the dismembered ones. Holy shit.

That's the thing. They're all back. And they're all just in the cabin-like living room? They're all in the cabin living room. I mean, they're bursting through the doors. I mean, it's a long, drawn-out fight scene. We don't have to go through the whole thing. Are her pieces put back together?

Her head has been stuck back on, it seems. And what about the one who was chopped up with an axe? Just mismatched? Maybe bits and pieces crawling in. She wasn't really chopped up. The first one was definitely chopped up. Yeah? I heard about a lot of...

They cut limb from limb from limb. I guess she just collected her limbs and put herself back together. Jesus. Came back to the living room. Yeah, I guess so. In the living room. They're all fighting him. He's going to die.

There's nothing he can do. I remember the trigger. I remember the thing. So he sees the Necronomicon. Is that what it's called? Yeah. And uses the magnifying glass necklace as a kind of fishing line to get it closer to him.

That's exactly right. Well, there we go. You couldn't use an engagement ring for that, so there's the reason. That's why it had to be the magnifying glass necklace. He's being dragged by everyone outside. He's going to get killed,

and there's like a really... He tries like four times to hook this dinky magnifying glass on a book to pull it toward him it's like a carnival game it's like not gonna work we're like this isn't gonna work also if there are like six demons pulling you out of the house i don't know how you're gonna get out of that one it's like it's imagine him trying to move a like a dictionary with a piece of floss like it's fully impossible you can't wave floss uh but he he has gotten the idea in his head that you can see that if he throws the Necronomicon in the fire, which is still burning, that maybe something will happen.

Right. I mean, it doesn't hurt to try. Eventually it does. And then he does manage to throw it into the fire. And everything goes crazy. That's when all of them start i guess like decomposing decomposing melting exploding aging there's like so many different weird process shots combined it's so crazy and all of the demons in the room with him are like exploding

wait and after this like things are so crazy during this whole scene it's like just a shot of each of their faces like melting down to their skulls and cockroaches running. It's so sick. And then they're finally all still. And then hands burst out of each of them, kind of like the Beetlejuice-like disgusting. Out of their bodies?

Yes, out of their bodies. Just extra hands. Beetlejuice-like. Out of their bodies? Yes. Out of their bodies. Just extra hands. As if they contain demons and the demons are popping out. Okay. Got it. And you're like, when will it end? It just felt like one thing after another. And all we have is like a super, super

close-up of Ash's eyeball or something as this is happening, as he watches it happen like right in front of his face there's a demon like creepily decomposing and how does he how does he kill them did they all just they don't they just die that's it that was like their last like grasp but grasp was exactly the right word yeah thank you so much and because they're grasping and also exploding the corpse they're in and it's like well thank goodness for that magnifying glass thank goodness and for hisifying glass. Thank goodness.

And for his love for Linda. Yeah. That led to him giving her that beautiful magnifying glass to begin with. The message is that without love, he would not have made it. He should have given her a backscratcher. Or a fishing rod. Oh, a fishing rod. There you go.

A backscratcher. A cane. Long tongs. Long tongs. Long tongs of my love. my life so guys everything winds down the hands are gone there's a little bit more like melting it looks like a chemistry you guys ever have a chemistry set where like you combine different chemicals and like like rapidly like green crystals i always wanted one of those but never had one like it all like sort of bubbles and then and bubbles and solidifies they do they do that it's like a time-lapse shot uh anyway but it's over and he's he stands up

okay brushes himself off it's like it says dawn another weekend it's dawn at this point it's dawn although i want to say the sunrise shot is the exact same shot as the sunset shot i'm certain that it is so he stands outside and he's like oh god i did it i'm alive and then cut to a close-up shot of a leaf and then the leaf tilts up and we realize it's a pov shot oh And very rapidly, the POV shot starts moving. It goes to the cabin. It goes into the cabin. It goes all the way through the cabin. It goes to Ash and hits him in the mouth.

End of movie. End of movie! That's a good ending. That's a good ending. I think the POV shot is a smart choice. That's a smart choice for this film. He seems to see the POV. Like whatever's coming towards

him he sees it yeah that's very scary when movies do that yeah because because we want to at the very least we want to know and when scary movies do that it's like it's so much more horrifying to just be like just show me what it is yeah wait okay there's one more thing i want to say about the fluids because there's one specific fluid that we didn't discuss. Oh, no. And it's during the crazy, like, melting scene. There's a part where they're all, like, dead, lifeless. And it just closes in on, like, a sleeve of one of the corpses.

And what looks like, I can only describe as oatmeal like pour it pours out of the sleeve i think it's maybe supposed to be like human fat like melted fat it's so sick oh my god we didn't really talk enough about how that sequence is really long it's really long wow i'm scared i don't know guys this one scared me actually this one's here i'm like this one scared me i don't like i don't like this movie i don't like this one um do you guys have the scariest part what part scared you the most i have a big thing with um fluids i mean now um i have a big thing with with with knives. Yeah. I anytime a knife comes into play, I get really freaked out. So I do not like how often blades are used in this film. But I would say the part that really, really, really creeped me out is the idea of her coming back and saying, don't don't let them take me back.

There is like really horrifying. Yeah. I'd second that. Yeah i agree also i don't like the idea of being right by a tree either so i even forgot that that's not that's not high on my list so long ago i was gonna say my scariest part was literally her eating off her own hand oh my god i forgot that happened i was just like so confused about it like i didn't know why it was happening i didn't know what she was trying to prove by eating her own hand it was really unexpected and really unsettling man i wholeheartedly would never ever see this no no no no no no no no no

yeah emily and i are there's something about this movie that... This was the hardest one. We just got run over by a fucking truck listening about this movie. This was hard. This makes me regret some choices I've made to end up here. No, I love this, but I also hate it. I'm going to sleep with the light on and never eat oatmeal again. Oh, I'd already forgotten about the oatmeal and now I... Or grits. Now I remember.

Thanks for ruining shrimp and grits for me, Stephen. Thanks for ruining breakfast sheets for us. Shrimp and grits, a normal LA breakfast that we all eat regularly. I mean, if I'm not eating shrimp and grits, you know I'm eating oatmeal. It's August in LA and I am eating oatmeal. It's also 105 degrees in this room right now. So thinking about eating oatmeal. Oh, man. Well, thank you so much, Stephen.

Thank you and no thank you. Stephen, you knocked it out of the park. You knocked it out of the motherfucking park. Thank you. I did my best. Say hello to your wife and dog for us, please. I will. As soon as I see them, I'll say separate hellos from each of you to each of them.

Thank you. We appreciate it. Thank you very much. You're welcome. All right, Stephen. Close us out here. Give us something in the demon voice.

From all your friends at Too Scary Didn't Watch, we'll swallow your soul! That was good. Good night, everybody. Good night. Goodbye. Sweet nightmares. Sweet nightmares. Hey guys, it's Henley. Sweet nightmares. Whoa. Whoa. Hey, guys.

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