Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE EYES OF MY MOTHER

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we made it one movie into 2024 before we're doing one that henley is not going to like fuck really i didn't know that you didn't know morning yeah sorry hen i'm sorry henley it wasn't it was an
Starting point is 00:00:54 accident kind of i'll explain more later it was an accident kind of wait emily did you see it too no but she did tell me last night that you're not going to like it. Yeah. I'm sorry. I really am sorry. So if you want to skip ahead to our movie recap, you can check the timestamps in the episode description. Because before we get into that, we are going to check in with each other. And I have to know, Emily Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? Well, the first thing is not scary, Which is that Joel and I are getting married
Starting point is 00:01:28 Wee Wee No it's really It's really fucking great It's the best Thing ever so that's not scary That's wonderful But we decided
Starting point is 00:01:43 So a couple things Wedding shit is fucking scary and annoying immediately like stressful it's stressful we're doing a really small wedding really chill we're like opting out of a lot of the more traditional wedding things and even still there's a plenty to be stressed about because you are you are still hosting a huge party you know it's like you're hosting a large for a wedding it's tiny but for a party it's absolutely huge i've never organized a party for this many people and it's like out of town so i i was like totally panicked but we like booked a date and and it's not like you know some people book weddings like two years in advance like we are we are not we are getting married much sooner than that and so i was like
Starting point is 00:02:30 oh my god people have to book their travel people have to put their rooms i need to reach out to everybody we need to book our photographer we need to like all of a sudden just like fuck fuck we like joel and i got this so we decided that we were engaged to each other in july and just got to keep it to ourselves for several months which was really wonderful and we like took that time to think about what the kind of wedding we won and we took that time to like go get our rings together and like it was really wonderful and calm beautiful ladies by the way thank you um and and we you know non non-traditionally sort of just decided it was time we were ready to get married and then planned sort of a proposal basically for and to our friends to be like we're engaged um which is very very fun but part of
Starting point is 00:03:21 Which is very, very fun. But part of what is so interesting about weddings and scary in its own way is like, I'm really getting very triggered by like the wedding binary. Like, you know, immediately you get engaged. You tell people you're engaged. And a lot of the first questions are, how did he do it? You know, how did he propose? Or, you know, they see the ring.'re like wow he did good and it's just all it's like those are nice the intention behind those things is very nice and a lot and it's like no shame on people who get their rings you know surprise a surprise
Starting point is 00:03:59 ring a surprise proposal like i've heard some incredible proposal stories um from friends since we got engaged and like i've been present at some friends proposals like it's a lovely thing to do that isn't how we decided we wanted to do it but like there's just so many expectations of how it's supposed to go and like how it happens and also we're like a cis hetero couple and i'm triggered by how these like questions are being uh framed to me and i can only imagine how much more frustrating it is for many many other couples so that's just crazy being like wow we really just have like one way we think all this goes it's so backwards because power dynamic is all fucking off if it's if it's like the girl is supposed to be waiting
Starting point is 00:04:46 hope you like a ring lie if you don't like it's just the institution of marriage is rooted in patriarchy and like buying women and dowries and shit so it's like there's a lot of lingering things so much and like oh man so many things and i this is my second uh marriage and so a lot of lingering things of that. So much. And like, oh man, so many things. And this is my second marriage. And so a lot is like flashing back to me about my first, which I was 22, which is, you know. Child bride. Absolutely. A little too early.
Starting point is 00:05:17 A little too early. It works for some. Whatever. It was not, you know, whatever. Here I am. But none of that occurred to me at the time. And I'm like thinking back now to so many things that I'm like that. Why did I do that?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Like, you know, it's just been it's just a really fascinating experience. It's also going to be amazing and so fun. And we're like absolutely thrilled. But goddamn, it's a whole fucking thing. Right. And you're not just having it, even though you are having a party, it's an a party with emotional stakes. And it seems that those emotional stakes are not just for you. It's for every single other person that you've invited. Like somehow the party becomes about everyone's party. It's about everyone. And it's like really interesting because it is like people say,
Starting point is 00:06:11 what's your wedding. You should have, it should only be about you. It's your wedding day. And then like that, I, I mean, I always want to do only what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:06:20 You know this, but it is like Other people do Have feelings And it's like You don't want to disregard Other people it's just like it's like complicated It's just really complicated Both things can be true at the same time like it should be
Starting point is 00:06:36 All about you and your wants and needs but also Other people have wants and needs and That's important too but how Important should it be and where's the How do you it's just like man oh man you guys it's I know booked our date on January 2nd we booked our date and it is January 7th and the past five days have been so stressful we spent six months being engaged and like thinking about what our wedding would be like it pretty much is going to be what we just fucking chilling live and it's partially why we
Starting point is 00:07:09 were like let's just keep this to ourselves for a while because we knew it was gonna like become everybody else's thing and a lot of that is like wonderful that it's about people loving you and like wanting to be a part of something with you. And like, you know, that's really lovely. Just a lot of managing a lot of other people's ideas and expectations. You know, I wasn't as as previously mentioned, I was an absolute child the last time I did this. And it's just doing it as an adult is really fascinating. Yeah, it's just doing it as an adult is really fascinating yeah it's guys it's just i mean henley you done it is crazy oh i did it i did it but i did it during covid and also while pregnant
Starting point is 00:07:55 postpartum absolute like yeah you you sort of it was a bit of a haze for you i feel like i gotta say i disassociated yeah i really disassociated a lot i i a lot of the choices i was making i was like sure that seems i can't make decisions about real basic stuff so i feel like i wouldn't do well yeah also get a photographer you really like. I didn't. I hope she's not listening. I really didn't like the photographer we had. You got gorgeous pictures. Oh, but she was like mean, right? She was bossing us around.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Sorry, she's not listening. The pictures were I liked the pictures. The pictures were great. The pictures were great. It's more like she was a little bit mean. They brought Silas out. When they brought Silas out. He was two and a half months old. And so he had been with a babysitter.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And then the babysitter brought him over for some pictures. And I was so excited Silas was there. And the photographer goes, Oh, this is the first time you've looked happy all day. Oh my God. That is. Okay. That's another thing is like the town bitch.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Your photographer was the town. I'm going to try my best not to hire the town bitch for my wedding. I'm already, I really am ready to, town bitch for my wedding I'm already I really am ready to just say and this won't happen but like literally nobody is allowed to say anything not nice to me from now until after the wedding
Starting point is 00:09:36 you are not allowed to say every decision I make every single thing that happens everything about the wedding everything about your hotel stay everything about your travel it needs to be great or you can't say anything to me i don't want to hear it i really don't want to hear it i actually don't care about anybody else's opinions on anything for the next nine months like i really don't care i really i don't i don't copy that want to hear it it's crazy how immediately i'm like well shut up shut up shut up shut up like I can't like I'm just
Starting point is 00:10:06 like you better love it or shut up you better love it or shut up I can't I can't yeah um it's gonna be great I am fucking ecstatic Joel is the best person in the world I'm so happy for you guys I've said it to you
Starting point is 00:10:22 many times your and Joel's love is inspiring to all who know you and it's the most beautiful thing I feel privileged to know you both and to witness it and I just truly couldn't be happier for you thank you
Starting point is 00:10:37 save it for the freaking wedding officiant did you know that I'm officiating I can't think of a better officiator you fucking know how to use a microphone girl and that was the number one factor we were considering we're like okay so who do we know that knows how to use a microphone oh sammy that's so good you're gonna have to take the biggest beta blocker beforehand i know I do feel a little bad. I feel prepared because like I said,
Starting point is 00:11:10 I could write a novel about your guys's love and how, how pure and good it is. So I feel, I feel like, Oh my God. Yes. I'm so excited. We're going to have a great time. Best fucking wedding ever. And if it's not, don't fucking say
Starting point is 00:11:28 shit to me. I don't want to hear it. Anyway, everything's good. Everything's great. 2024, you know, we're just jumping right in. Did anything scary happen to you guys? Henley, any huge life changes?
Starting point is 00:11:48 Life? No huge life changes. I am a little worried that everyone at the church thinks my name's Hadley. I don't know about this. Oh no. So. I'm sorry. It's not funny, but it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:12:03 My mom calls you Haley. And every time I say you mean Henley and she goes, I said Henley. And she like knows that your name is Henley. And then you said Haley again. And she's like, no, her name is Henley.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I know her name is Henley. That's what I said. H-A-Y-L-E-Y Henley. That's what I said. It'sA-Y-L-E-Y Henley. That's what I said. It's making, it's breaking my brain. So there have been multiple times where the Christchurch Greenwich has posted on the Instagram. Congratulations to Rev Tim and his wife Hadley. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Well, that's a pretty big indicator that they think your name is Hadley. So no, no, no, no. So, so then Tim has had to say, or like text them and be like, you know, it's Henley. So you got to change that. And they change it. Three weeks later, Reverend Tim and his wife Hadley. Who's writing these captions? Yeah, maybe it's just one person who wishes your name was Hadley.
Starting point is 00:13:01 They just keep trying to force the issue. But it's spreading like a disease. wishes your name was Hadley. They just keep trying to force the issue. But it's spreading like a disease. So then I was in the bookstore on the campus of the church, and the woman walks in and I hear her in the distance. She goes, she says to the bookstore manager, she says, does Hadley know she gets a 20% discount? And the bookstore manager, I'm pretty sure knows my name is Henley. Uh-huh. But I could see the fear in her eyes that maybe my name is actually...
Starting point is 00:13:31 Maybe it's Hadley. Oh, no. Because she had just called me Henley. And I could see in her eyes, oh, no, it's her name, Hadley. And I was like, uh, I didn't say anything. And then the other woman came up to me and she goes, you get 20% discount. Okay. I just want you to know that. And I was so quick. I didn't have a
Starting point is 00:13:46 chance to be like, did you just call me Hadley? My name is not. So I was like, I'm just gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it lie. So I go, I hang out in the bookstore for a little bit. I decided to buy a couple, a couple of little knickknacks. I go to the front. 20% off, I hope. Oh, 20% off, baby. I go to the front. The bookstore manager, not the bookstore manager, but her husband rings me up and he goes, happy holidays, Hadley. Oh no. Immediately it's spreading.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Oh no. He was like so proud. He wanted to let you know that he knows that your name is Hadley. He was like, I'm going to set the record straight here. There were other people like waiting in line. There were people like Gabby next to us. You're going to have to change your name to Hadley. I didn't. I left. I felt so ashamed.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I should have said I should have stood up for myself. And next time I will. I feel like. Yeah. And it's also because you don't want to make them feel. Right. It would be so embarrassing. You could say like, oh, it's Henley.
Starting point is 00:14:47 We've had so many conversations and it's henley yeah you need to wait should we just get you a bunch of like monogrammed um sweatshirts to start wearing around i feel like you need to wear henley shirts constantly and just be like it's henley like even better and you can just hold up your shirt and be like remember the shirt henley they have they have nameley. They have name tags. Create some association. They have name tags at the church. And I think I'm just going to literally wear the name tag no matter what, even when it's not the church service.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Because you guys, they had a welcoming party for us, right? They had a welcoming party for us. They posted about it on social media, a whole reel, us, you know, meeting everyone in it on the, in the caption and on the reel, it said, welcome Hadley Hamlin, Hadley Hamlin. Which is not your name at all. Actually, no part of your name is there. No, no, no, no. My name is Henley Cox, not Hadley Hamlin. Nonetheless, you had an 150 person welcome party for someone named Hadley Hamlin, not me.
Starting point is 00:15:44 What if you just like, who is Hadley Hamlin? You know, what if we treat this as a bit of a like, Greenwich Henley is actually Hadley Hamlin. It's your Greenwich alter ego. And like, maybe you just start embodying Hadley Hamlin. Like I, I kind of want to know what her deal is. Hadley Hamlin grew up in Greenwich, Connecticut, and you better believe she has a 15 place silver setting. You better believe. Oh, Hadley definitely does.
Starting point is 00:16:11 She has a full tea service and soup tureen from her great grandmother. And they are, they are displayed in her dining room. Was she prom queen maybe? She was. I think she was head of the. She was head of student council. She was head of student council. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:33 She could have been prom queen. Horse girl. But she was a horse girl. And she's also then head of Junior League of Greenwich Junior League. Yeah. Does she play golf? She has a gluten intolerance. She has a gluten intolerance. She has a gluten intolerance.
Starting point is 00:16:48 She does golf, but only at the sandwich club. Yes, she does golf. Yeah. What else about Hadley Hamlin? Hadley Hamlin is scary. You don't want to fuck with her.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Oh. Anyway, Hadley Hamlin is scary. You don't want to fuck with her. Oh. Anyway, Hadley Hamlin is me. If you ever want to get to know the real me, you'll have to figure out my real name. So until then, you're just going to know my alter ego, Hadley, who is actually a raging bitch. Yeah. You call me Hadley, you're going to talk to Hadley. God, have you met Hadley? She is really rude. Oh, yeah. Oh, Hen, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:17:32 That is tough. And you are going to have to wear your name tag all the time. I don't want to be erased. I don't want to be erased here in Connecticut. I didn't move to Connecticut to be erased. You know? Yeah. We got to start correcting people. Should I start commenting on every... to be erased. You know? Yeah. We gotta start correcting people. Should I start commenting on every...
Starting point is 00:17:48 Should I make a burner account and then start commenting on every single Greenwich Post? Well, you might have noticed that Tim on his Instagram on Christmas Day said, but the real gift is, in all caps, Henley Clayton Cox. Like, it's Henley. it's Henley.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's Henley. He should make his like Instagram bio husband to Henley. That's a really good idea. I'm going to do that after this. Alright, Sammy. How you doing? I'm doing okay. I'm a little bit
Starting point is 00:18:21 sicky. Maybe you hear my voice is a little congested. Everybody is sick right now or has been sick in the last month, as I'm sure you all know. And it's been three weeks since we recorded last, so plenty of time here for me to think of anything scary happening. And you would think that I would have come up with something but i did not and i'm gonna talk about uh two things two dream related things oh hell yeah some fito asses we talked about dreams i feel like early days henley used to talk about her cat dreams pretty regularly oh i did have some good dreams fuck now i gotta remember them you had a dream about a
Starting point is 00:19:07 cat with no legs no no no i mean like a couple nights ago i had a dream that i would like to share but uh i gotta remember it first this is why you gotta have a dream journal but man it's tough to have a dream journal yeah well and this i feel like fits well with that because the first thing was the other night. I woke up at like 3 a.m. and just sat up straight going, what? What? Oh, really? That's scary.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I had no memory of what I was dreaming. And so I like woke myself up saying what? And then I was like, wait, what? What? Then I just kept going to what meant something else wait no what wait no what no but what and my cats were well mac was asleep on the bed looking at me like yeah what what and then i had this dream last night that's really not even worth talking about it's like so tell us anyway but it's one of those things you know how similar to the heim sister dream
Starting point is 00:20:13 like when it's happening it feels like wait this is something this is something that people are gonna want to hear and then this is important what's happening. And then as... What is... Oh, no. You're just like, wait, this is nothing. This is absolutely nothing. So, in my dream, there is a woman who looked vaguely like Angelina Jolie. Very beautiful, but not Angelina Jolie. And I remember waking up and being like, interesting that my brain was like
Starting point is 00:20:45 taking pieces of Angelina Jolie and like, but not her. But making sure you knew. Yeah. It's not actually her, but it just looks like her. And we were at a party and this woman left and just like handed me all her trash And just like handed me all her trash in a way that was like as if she was giving me a gift. And I took it just based on her body language of like, oh, she's this is an offering. And then she left and walked out. And I was like, so mad. Just like that fucking bitch just gave me all her trash and acted like she was giving me a present. Whoa, this is a metaphor.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I've never heard one. And I woke up really thinking like, wow, honestly, it's really that'd be a really funny thing to do is just like someone you don't like. You just give them a handful of trash. And again, it's like something that's really nothing. It's really not anything at all. You're not going to take anyone's shit anymore. I spent a lot of the morning being like, wow,
Starting point is 00:21:54 this is really, really funny. And then now that I'm saying it, it's not. That's generous of you to read into a meaning behind it i think uh yeah let's go with that i'm not gonna take anybody's shit yeah hell yeah dreams are so crazy dreams are so crazy do you guys ever wake up with that feeling of like, wow, that dream was extremely profound. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And I just solved, you know, world hunger or something equally important. And then 10 minutes later, it's like, wait, no, she just handed me trash. Anyways, pretty interesting collection of scary things today. 2024 is going to be an interesting year. I think so. And yeah, sorry, Henley, as I mentioned, you're not going to like today's movie because today we were talking about a film called The Eyes of My Mother, came out in 2016, written and directed by Nicholas Pesci, starring Kika Magelheis. That can't be right. I'm sorry, Kika. Paul Nazak, Diana Agostini, Flora Diaz, Claire Wong, and Will Brill. And it is streaming on Hulu. This movie's 77 minutes. That's why I picked it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Okay. Yeah. I mean, we love to see that. I was in a pinch for time. I'll be honest. I did some poor planning and so that is the accident that happened Henley. I was just like, what's the shortest horror movie I could watch for free right now? And this was the winner.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And Mother is in the title. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There were hints, I guess, in the title. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There was, there were hints, I guess, in the title. Okay, man. I really wish that I had a glass of tequila in front of me. There's no alcohol in our house right now, which is really upsetting. What? I don't even believe that.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You drink it all during the holidays? Just because we literally drank it all. I was going to say, I drink more in December than I think I drank in all of 2023. I hope we're all hydrating in January. I was going to say, I drank more in December than I think I drank in all of 2023. I hope we're all hydrating in January. If you're not doing a dry January, at least let's hydrate. Let's just replenish some of our vitamins. Take some Emergen-C, some vitamin B. That's what I need.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And I'm taking it. And I'm leading by example so Thank you She's an inspiration You're all of our moms What's the deal with vitamin B? Um it's good for energy levels I think and
Starting point is 00:24:37 That sounds nice I mean there's all kinds of there's B6 there's B12 There's niacin Um You know Don't ask me to differentiate B6, there's B12, there's Niacin, there's a B Um, you know Alright, don't ask me to differentiate I take a D But I feel like
Starting point is 00:24:50 D is like sunlight, right? I think so, yeah It's good for the immune system D and K, I take some B I take Biotin I take Biotin I gotta get some B I gotta get some B biotin. I take biotin.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I gotta get some B. That's kind of it. I gotta get some B. You gotta get some B. I feel like, yeah, it's good for energy levels. And brain health. Really, if you've been drinking a lot, milk thistle. You could do some milk thistle. That's a good one to restore
Starting point is 00:25:21 specifically to do with liver. Yeah, I think it's liver. I need something to make my brain work again. So any ideas? Yeah, drop some in the comments. Any ideas? Ginkgo, ginkgo biloba, maybe. What did you just say?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Ginkgo biloba. You never heard of ginkgo biloba? Sounds fun. I've heard of ginkgo, but not the whole thing you just said i've been having a concoction while we're talking about it um since giving birth that someone recommended to me um but it would be good for anyone it's magnesium powdered magnesium then drops of vitamin d and then drops of um oh fuck what's it called? Mineral, trace mineral drops. Trace minerals I've had nice results with as well.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yes. And I make that into a nice little thing. It's supposed to be super hydrating and lots of nutrients and vitamin D for, I do the drops. There's like a brand that's really good. And that's for your immune system. And I got to say, everyone in my family has gotten ragingly sick except for me. So, might be working. She's got the secret. Sounds promising.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Mm-hmm. All right. Great. That's... All right. Good, good stuff. All right. Let's just do it. Let's just rip it off and let let's just You just tell me the worst of it real quick okay Well that's gonna be tough because the worst stuff's All at the end but I'll tell you that this movie has a
Starting point is 00:26:52 79% on Rotten Tomatoes A 63% on Metacritic and a 6.2 on IMDB Budget was $300,000 It made $48,500 But it was released on VOD At the same time as it was released in theaters. And it's a small little indie film.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It was picked up at Sundance. This is this director's directorial debut. And yeah, I think it was distributed by Magnet Films or something. So I think it just flew a little under the radar, but it has been requested a lot by our patrons and it had been on my list for a while. So I was happy to finally check it out because again, 77 minutes.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah, I mean. And we are going to watch the trailer at the end, so it will not be included in the episode but if you want to watch our video trailer reaction that will be available on our patreon at patreon.com slash tscw podcast but we are just going to get right into this recap henley how are you feeling tbd tbd honestly i don't know okay all right let's find out in the past few years i have hit a point where i only want to be wearing clothes that are comfortable it happened it happened to me but you know what i still also want to look cute and these are two desires that are often extremely opposing and i don't want to have to sacrifice. I want both. I want comfort
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Starting point is 00:32:44 buyraycon.com slash too scary. We begin POV through the windshield of a truck driving down a remote country road. This is black and white. The truck driver comes upon a woman who is walking in the middle of the road that seems lost disoriented she's walking very slowly and he honks at her and instead of getting out of the way she falls to her hands and knees and lays down in the road in front of him he runs out of the truck runs runs to her, sees something is wrong, runs back to his truck. Cut to black. Main title. The Eyes of My Mother.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Hmm. And now we are with a little girl and her mother. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Is it still black and white? Yes. The whole movie's black and white. The cinematography is gorgeous. Looks really good. I'm always...
Starting point is 00:33:44 Do you guys have this experience? I'm always annoyed when a movie is black and white. And then by the end of it, I'm like, well, that was gorgeous, stunning, perfect decision. Yeah. I think it just like, you have to sort of adjust to it. It like feels like it takes a lot of work, but then you're like, oh no, I can still see it. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like in the word too, because there's a lot of blood, I always get annoyed. It's like, well, i can't tell if it's blood or not because it's black i just i need to see it red it's the same colors um but it does look really good and is this um an english language movie it is mostly english and some portuguese and this is also part of what I liked about it is it has this kind of unstuck in time and space feeling like it took me forever to pinpoint where we were, what period of time we were in.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I think like black and white contributes to that. Yes. You can't like it like does the stuff look modern? I don't know. Right. And they're in the countryside. So it's, you know, there's no, you know, really way to gauge, but eventually
Starting point is 00:34:47 you do see a car. I think it's in the Midwest in I don't know, the 50s or 60s. Okay. But that could be wrong. How old is the daughter?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Let's say eight. All kids are eight. All right. Okay. Fair enough. And the little girl's name is Francisca. And her mother is telling her about St. Francis, saying that they're in the garden and they're looking at a little nest of eggs. They're in the garden and they're looking at a little nest of eggs. And I think there's a St. Francis statue in the garden is why she's telling the story of St. Francis who saw a vision of an angel in the sky and then got stigmata.
Starting point is 00:35:37 She says, but loneliness can do strange things to the mind. Like he was alone for a long time before that happened. And then he died of an eye condition that also caused psychosis so when she was telling the story in the beginning i was like what is this gonna have to do with anything it's kind of has it does have to do with some stuff so we're just gonna remember saint francis and franc Francisca is looking at this little bird nest egg. And she pokes her finger into it and crushes it. And her mom says, oh, no, like, what have you done?
Starting point is 00:36:20 What have you done? And she's looking at it very like scientifically almost. So we're not sure if this is a little sociopath or just someone who doesn't understand what she has just done eggs are i hate to think about what eggs are i know i know i don't i i don't do it hadley doesn't even eat eggs hadley has never touched an egg in her whole goddamn life. Hadley is mainly vegan, but she does sometimes eat fish for the omega-3s. And only fish that she's caught herself. Only when she goes fly fishing does she ever eat fish.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Which she's amazing at. Which she's really good at. What can't Hadley do? Oh, man. That is one thing I really like about Hadley is she's really good at a lot of stuff. Hadley is really intimidating. My favorite thing about Hadley is that she knows her way around a vessel.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, yes, she does. She does. She knows which one's the port, which one's whatever else it is. I literally never remember. She knows. She knows starboard. She knows it all. The literally never remember. She knows. She knows Starboard. She knows it all.
Starting point is 00:37:28 The jib and stuff. She can fucking skip her that skip. She can skip her that skip in the jib jab. She does it all. Okay. Cut to black again. Part one. Mother. Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. okay cut to black again part one mother jesus fucking christ yeah uh we see francisca and her mother in the kitchen now and there is a decapitated cow's head
Starting point is 00:37:57 on the table that they are cutting into and we're learning that her mother used to be an eye surgeon. And so she's showing her that cow's eyes are actually basically exactly the same as human eyes. They're just bigger. And she's demonstrating the anatomy of a cow's eye and showing her these kind of gnarly graphic things cutting into eyes. And Francisca is taking this in again, very studiously and looking really fascinated by this in a way that's like, maybe we should be kind of grossed out by this. But I don't know. I don't want to tell Francisca how to feel, but she's making me a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:38:42 She's a scientist. That's okay. She's a scientist. And is okay. She's a scientist. And is that okay? We'll find out. Okay. Her mom is Portuguese. And so they have, I believe, immigrated to America.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Because they go back and forth speaking Portuguese and English. So she was a surgeon in Portugal and now they live in, on a farm somewhere in America. And is it maybe more modern day because could a woman be an eye surgeon in the fifties? That's true. I, the only reason I said fifties or sixties is because of the look of the car
Starting point is 00:39:20 that I saw a little later, but they could just have a classic car. It's like doing a it follows thing where it's like not tied to anything. I thought about it follows because I think there are choices that are made to make it feel more modern and to make it harder
Starting point is 00:39:35 to pin down when it is taking place. Yeah. Cool. So they are alone on the farm when a man arrives. The scariest thing that could happen. And he first is talking to Francisca when she's sitting alone on the on the lawn and the mother comes out and he's overly chipper saying, I was just getting to know Francisca here. And it's like, motherfucker, get away from her. And he asks her, is your husband home?
Starting point is 00:40:10 We hate that. She says he'll be home any minute. And we don't want whatever it is that you're selling. And he says he's not selling anything, but he just really needs to use the bathroom. So would it be alright if he comes in to use the bathroom? And he goes inside. She does let him in. Big mistake. He says, is your husband usually late?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. She's looking nervous. And he reminds her, you did say he would be here any minute. It's been, you know, five minutes now, 10 minutes or something. Like, it's not here yet. It's usually this late. And she says, you know, just use the bathroom and leave. Don't want any trouble. And he's like, I'd like you to show me where the bathroom is. And she says, around the corner to the right through the hall. And he's like, no, like, can you please show me, take me there? Oh my God. Fuck. And she asks him to leave. She says, alright, you need to get out of my house
Starting point is 00:41:08 right now. He pulls a gun. Francisca's in the house kind of behind her mother cowering. Cowering's not necessarily an insult, right? She should be cowering. No, no, no. Cowering. I don't insult, right? Like I'm, she should be cowering.
Starting point is 00:41:25 No, no, no. Cowering. I don't mean she's like pussy. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. It's appropriate. Little pussy.
Starting point is 00:41:33 She's appropriate. She's a real baby about it. Um, and he has Francisca sit down at the dining table, uh table while the mother leads him to the bathroom. We don't see what happens. Cut to later in the day. We see the dad returning home. Oh, there is a husband. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I was surprised by that as well. I thought I thought this was a fictional husband, but there is a husband and he's coming home now. And he comes in to find Francisca sitting alone at the dining table. There's a banging noise happening that we don't know what it is. And he asks Francisca, what's going on? Where's your mom? She's like, couldn't leave her. And now we're hearing a man laughing with the banging noise, like repetitive thump, thump, thump.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Jesus fucking Christ christ don't like whatever this is the dad pinpoints it to that bathroom opens the door and the mom it's just a very tiny glimpse the mom is dead in the bathtub and he's just beating her like pulverizing her with, I think, the butt of the gun. Oh, God. Whoa. She dead. And the dad is able to knock out Charlie and knocks him unconscious. Now we see him dragging Charlie to the barn out back and chaining him up.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Kind of an interesting choice of what to do in this situation. All while Francisca's watching, taking it all in. And then he goes back inside and turns on the TV. Francisca's scrubbing some blood off the floor. What the hell she gets in bed that night and the dad comes up and says i need help with your mother makes this little girl help him put her mother's body in a wheelbarrow to take out into the oh my god forest and and bury her what why are we not calling the police you know why are we not i feel like that's what makes it feel further back in time also but i think yeah i think
Starting point is 00:43:55 there are phones in this i'm pretty sure yeah we see phones at some point so yeah because like why didn't she call the police as soon as her they like why did she not yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it seems like this family is making some strange decisions yeah so now francisca and her dad are both watching tv and we just hear Charlie from the barn yelling, Franny, Fran, Franny. Cut to her in the barn with him. He's chained down, laying down on his back. His his wrists and ankles are chained to the ground. OK, that's not what I expected. Yeah, I thought he would be like hung up.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He's pinned down and she, Francisca, is giving him stitches. She asks him why us? He tells her you let me in. Real strangers. Classic bullshit. You were here. You said yes. Yeah. Speak
Starting point is 00:44:58 no evil. Yeah. Go fuck yourselves. And she asks him why he does it. And he has a big smile on his face. And he says, because it feels amazing. Oh. And he says, you're going to kill me, right? And Francisca says, why would I kill you?
Starting point is 00:45:17 You're my only friend. I'm going to take care of you. And she's being very tender with him. What the fuck? Cut to a couple hours later, her with a bag of what looks like eyeballs and something else. And he now has bandages around his eyes and throat. So she just removed those eyeballs, just like the cow's eyeballs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Wow. He really should have done this before she got the lesson on how to remove the eyeballs yeah yeah he came a day too late oh my god i'm not looking forward to looking up google images for this one no thanks they're not bad it actually show tons of... It just implies a lot and cuts away from most of the actual moments of violence. So it might not be too bad.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So after this, she comes back into the main house, sits next to her dad on the couch, and says he won't make any more noise. Her dad looks very stone-faced, not really responding to her. He won't make any more noise. Her dad looks very stone faced. Not really responding to her. We're confused about their relationship and his headspace in this moment.
Starting point is 00:46:41 She says, I love you, daddy, and is trying to hold his hand and he's just kind of not responsive to her. Then we see him taking a bath later, looking really upset. He's shaking and kind of rocking back and forth. Like what is he going to, what has he gotten himself into? But I mean, same question. Why did you do these things? What's going on? Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah. And your daughter is someone who cuts out people's eyes and tongues. So that's where we have some pretty big fish to fry. Next day, we see Francisca skipping through the fields, collecting mice and other vermin. And cut to her feeding Charlie. I have what looks like smushed up vermin
Starting point is 00:47:26 and he's scarfing it down I think he must be very starving this must be like a while later and he's making these horrible noises like and she goes back inside later that night and,
Starting point is 00:47:45 uh, has a, puts on some music and is dancing with her father. They have a nice father daughter dance. So maybe we can accept this new normal of Charlie in the barn and we can all still be a happy family. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Cut to black, part two, father. Okay. Time jump. We see Francisca is now looks to be a young adult, either 19, early 20s-ish. And her
Starting point is 00:48:22 father is definitely dying. She's caring for him in his final days he's he's he's not long for this world she's being very sweet with him but you know there's there's no like conversations happening and we're getting the impression that she might be pretty lonely in this world. She goes out to feed the cows. All the cows are scared of her. They all move away whenever she approaches.
Starting point is 00:48:54 She's doing all her farm chores, hanging the laundry on the clothesline. Looks like a pretty charmed life, aside from all of the main details. And as she finishes her chores she goes into that barn feeds charlie he is still chained up there yikes oh he's really regretting his choice yeah and he curls up basically in her lap it lays his head on her lap as she dribbles nasty meat into his mouth.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And he's slurping it. Ew. She goes back inside and her dad's body is limp next to her. She's like propped him up to watch TV. And then cut to him in the bathtub, the dad in the bathtub on his side. And I feel like it specifically doesn't show us how he got there. But my presumption is she had to put him there. And so it seems like she's chosen to drown him as a way to kill him.
Starting point is 00:50:03 But she's devastated she's she's sobbing and she gets in the tub with him and she's like holding his dead body and saying I don't want you to go I don't want you to go like what do I do without you I love you please don't do this please don't go and it's a very very beautiful shot sorry to say uh so now she is alone i guess she still has charlie well yeah so is charlie like chain he's like chained up in the same way that he was before like does he have yeah oh gross he's got it's like some amount of space he can move the chains have a little bit of give. It's like a dog on a leash. Like he can, has like a five foot radius.
Starting point is 00:50:49 He can move around. Ew. Okay. Now, Francisca decides to drive a couple towns over to a bar. Hmm. For some human interaction. Can't imagine she's going to be great at it.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah. And she brings home a girl, Kimiko. Oh, Kimiko. And the two of them go back to Francisca's house and they both seem nervous. Kimiko is nervous for the wrong reason, but she is, you know, like, oh, I don't usually do this. I don't come home with people. Francisca says, that would have been a good rule to stick to. Yeah. Francisca says me neither. It's awkward between them, but Kimiko looks at some photo framed photos on the dresser or whatever bookshelf and sees, is this your mom? She's so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Brings up her mom, asks Francisca about her. Francisca says, oh, yeah, she was a really, really good mom. She says, tell me more about her. What did she do? And she says how they used to do dissections together and that she was an eye surgeon in Portugal. And she says, I was always fascinated by how the inside of bodies looked. Kimiko says we dissected a cat in school once and I always thought it was really gross. Did you guys dissect cats in school?
Starting point is 00:52:26 No. Not a cat. We did a fetal pig. Oh. I feel like we might have done a pig at some point. We did cats and it was gnarly. Yeah, cats is not okay. That's really not, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Not okay. We did a frog. We did frogs and my frog was super pregnant and it was just like filled with eggs there was pregnant cats and it was it was that's upsetting really upsetting and for some reason our teacher made it like extra credit if you could get the brain out and so people were like trying to crush the cat skulls sorry this is like a traumatizing memory i'm just having that was very disturbing and we were that was in high school i think that was junior year of high school why did
Starting point is 00:53:09 we do that why did we all have to do that no yeah i don't like that at all yeah so anyone that's like really into that that's like this is cool and i love You know, we just might want to be a little cautious around those people. Not saying all of those people turn out to be murderers. Some of them turn out to be doctors. We're just going to keep an eye on it. We're going to keep an eye.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We're going to just flag it. You know, we're going to flag it. And if you prove that you're not a murderer, then great. Great. Just prove it. It shouldn't be that hard. So Kimiko asks Francisca, where is she now? What happened to her?
Starting point is 00:53:55 We're talking about her in past tense. So Kimiko's getting the idea that she is no longer with us. Francisca confirms, yes, she was killed when I was a child. Kimiko is so empathetic about this. She leans in and gives Francisca this big hug. Francisca's obviously had, hasn't had affectionate human contact maybe in decades or maybe ever. We didn't necessarily see it happening between her and her mom. It might have, but certainly it wasn't happening with her dad. So, Francisca looks surprised, but like she's enjoying this hug.
Starting point is 00:54:37 And then they have a kiss and it's cute. And oh my God, maybe life can be good. And then Kimiko asks, and what about your dad? Where's he? And Francisca says, I killed him. Oh, my God. And Kimiko pretty quick is like, oh, OK, I better go. I better get home.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Oh, man. Francisca tries to backpedal says oh that was a stupid joke i'm sorry i'm sorry and kimiko is like that's okay like i'm really tired and i'm just want to get home i'm gonna call a cab gets up this is where we see the phone she does try to call a cab but the phone line is dead she's starting to get more panicked francisca is being like no please stay safe please don't go please don't go and she's like no it's i just need to go i need to go. I need to go. And they're getting a little closer in each other's faces as she's trying to make it
Starting point is 00:55:29 to the door and Francisca's blocking the door. Cut to next morning. Francisca mopping blood off the floor. Oh, Jesus. And back to laying alone in her bed. Oh, I didn't mention that her and her
Starting point is 00:55:44 dad slept in bed together. So this like empty bed is a memory of the loss of a family member and anyone in her life. So she's alone in bed now wearing the sexiest nasty nightgown I've ever seen. Oh. It's sheer and she has like white little bra and panties set on underneath. It's really nice. It's really good looking, but it's definitely a nasty nightgown.
Starting point is 00:56:13 And I think a nasty nightgown can be sexy. I think so too. Sure, sure, sure, sure. She gets up, she gets out of bed, and she goes out to the barn and she unchains Charlie, brings him inside, gives him a bath, takes the bandages off his eyes. And we see his skin is it's hard to tell in the black and white.
Starting point is 00:56:35 This is where I would have liked to see some color, but it looks like burned and. It's just really not good. Maybe like if you have like damp things on your face, what would happen? Can your face mold? It would be like, yeah. Like sores, like a bed sore
Starting point is 00:56:58 kind of. Yeah, he has like sores on his face. His skin is kind of flaking off in places. He's probably definitely not getting the right nutrients from all those. He's not getting his B's. No. He needs D for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:13 He needs D. Trace minerals. He's getting none of it. None of that. And his eyes are swollen shut. No eyes. And after she bathes him, she sets him down in the bed, gets naked. And we are led to believe that they have sex.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Doesn't show it. What? But I believe that is what happened. Is he chained up? Or at this point, is he able to go? No, he's not chained up? Or at this point is he able to go? No he's not chained up so she It cuts to her waking up in the middle of the night Reaching over to his side of the bed
Starting point is 00:57:51 He's gone Yeah She looks out the window he has not gotten far Because he is blind and Oh god Does not Really stand a chance here And so she she grabs a knife kind of slowly goes out it's this
Starting point is 00:58:09 long shot of him of her catching up to him you see him trying to run but running in the wrong direction running towards a tree running like circling back and eventually they catch up she catches up to him stabs him repeatedly and she's holding him as if it's a tender embrace and the stabbing is very reminiscent of like penetrative sex it's just like she's stabbing him as if it's likeually fulfilling for her Like she's Enjoying it And like kissing his neck While stroking him She's stroking him while
Starting point is 00:58:54 She's killing him and we're hearing him Die and she stabs him so Many times I mean I feel like if you're him You're probably like thank god I want death like yeah Fucking end this. Mm hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And after he dies, she whispers in his ear. You were right. It feels amazing. I don't want to know. I don't want to know what happens next. She goes back inside and her father's corpse is propped up in a chair. She turns on the song they used to dance together to and she's dancing around in the living room by herself. Momentarily feeling pretty good.
Starting point is 00:59:37 She had a big night. Hard cut to her using a fucking hacksaw to chop up the bodies. You don't see whose body it is, but there's three contenders. Dad, Charlie, Kimiko. I mean, presumably all of them have been chopped up and bagged and being put in the fridge. Like their organs removed and like a butcher would do. like their organs removed and like a butcher would, would do or a surgeon search precisely cut up in like a way that looks,
Starting point is 01:00:11 you know, like the right way to do it. Yeah. But she's alone again. And after she's gotten rid of the bodies, she's crying and she's talks to her mother out loud and says, mom, what like mother, what am I going to do? Please help me. She's crying as she walks out into the woods, overcome with grief and loneliness and kind of collapses and sleeps in the woods, wakes up, hitches a ride back. We see a truck pick her up from a distance. Gets in and cut to black. Part three, family. I hate to tell you, Henley, this is
Starting point is 01:00:52 the part you're not gonna like. Yeah, fuck. Fuck my life. But we're almost done. We now see inside the truck that picked her up. It is a mother and a baby. Yeah. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. The mother's name is Lucy.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Baby is Antonio. And baby, baby, huh? Baby, baby. Yep. Baby. Yep. Six months ish. Francisca is asking, can I, can I hold him?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh. Oh, no. Mom is being very sweet. Lucy's like, like, oh, you know, not right now,y's like like oh you know not right now but but like he likes his pacifier you can give this to him and like he likes when you do this is really enamored with little baby antonio i hate. They get back to Francisca's house. Lucy says, this is, this is it, right? I'll just pull in here.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And Francisca says one more time, can I please hold him just before I go? And Lucy says, I'm sorry. No, like we're in kind of a rush. And Francis says, please, please, just for one second, just one second. And Lucy says, okay, fine. just for one second just one second and lucy says okay fine and hands antonio to francisca who starts speaking in portuguese to antonio and she says thank you mother this is the best gift you could ever have given me and lucy immediately knows that something is up based off her demeanor. And it's like, what are you saying?
Starting point is 01:02:26 What do you what are you doing? And Francisca opens that door, runs into the house, holding Antonio, locks the door behind her. So Lucy is chasing, banging on the doors, trying to get in, screaming like, don't hurt him. Don't hurt him. What are you doing? The house is like old. It's an old farmhouse. him don't hurt him what are you doing the house is like old it's an old farmhouse so she's able to break in pretty quickly and he is following the sounds of um antonio's cries up to the to
Starting point is 01:02:52 the second story there's a bedroom antonio's on the bed crying lucy runs in but as she does francisca pops up behind her stabs her in the back. Lucy falls to the ground and is trying to crawl towards Antonio. Cut to back in the barn, unfortunately. Oh, no. Francisca is performing the same surgery on Lucy that she did on Charlie. Oh, my God. This is awful. I wish she had killed her. I'm so mad. I know. It i wish she had killed her i'm so mad i know it is it's
Starting point is 01:03:28 bad i'm so mad and we see that not only does she remove the eyes she's also removed the vocal cords which i didn't catch last time that's why the vocal cords it's the vocal cords and in like re-watching it to take notes you can see the little bag of eyes that she has in the very beginning with charlie you can see the vocal cords in it nasty so because yeah she's got like a incision on her throat and we see lucy trying to scream and it's just really awful awful stuff and while this is all happening you hear antonio like crying screaming crying in the background it's really bad oh my god i hate this and francisco runs into antonio after finishing and she's holding him and cradling him and saying i won't let anything bad happen to you i won't let anything bad happen to you calms antonio down we see their kind of daily routine again francisca feeding lucy her slop lucy slurping it up starving oh my god cut to Oh my God. Cut to Antonio looking about eight.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Jesus Christ. Calling Francisca, mom. And we see Antonio is watching Francisca go in and out of the barn on a regular basis. Clearly he believes that Francisca is his mother. Do we think he knows what's in the barn? No. Okay. They are now sleeping in bed's in the barn? No. Okay. They are now sleeping in bed together.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Her bed has another person again. Francisca's looking happier than ever. She's got the life she's always wanted. One night, Antonio wakes up in the middle of the night and he kind of nudges her. Mom, are you awake? She's dead asleep. So he gets up and he decides to go to that barn
Starting point is 01:05:26 oh no okay and what he finds is a very traumatizing sight and he's pretty cool about it to be honest i was like i feel like he doesn't even scream he's obviously in complete shock, but he's kind of saying this is a dream. This is a dream as this woman who looks completely feral with her eyes bandaged, her throat bandaged, can't speak, is just moaning, crawling on her hands and knees and going like, Oh, no, no. He runs out and he was like, it's just a dream. It was just a dream. It was just a dream. And the next day his, or Francisca is preparing breakfast or something and he says,
Starting point is 01:06:12 who's in the barn? She says, what? He says, someone's in there. A person's in there. I saw. And she gets really upset. Says, I told you never to go in the barn. Like, why would you do that? What the fuck do you think is going to happen?
Starting point is 01:06:27 And he's, you know, scared that she's yelling at him. And she softens and is hugging him. And she goes, I just would do anything for us to be together. I just want you to always remember that. Like, you're just the most important person. And I just everything I do is so that we can be together. Middle of the night, another night, Antonio gets up and somehow unlocks the chains on Lucy. Don't really see it happen, but you see Antonio get up and go to the barn.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And then we see Lucy slowly coming out of the barn, cut to Lucy's feet, chained feet in the middle, like walking down a lonely country road as a truck is pulling up and honking at her. And instead of getting out of the way, she just drops to the floor, lays down in front of the truck. This is the opening scene. We go back to Francisca's house and she sees that the barn door is open, runs in there, screams, doesn't know what to do. She's calling out to her mother again. Mother, mother, what do I do? What do I do? She's trying to keep it cool for Antonio. and comforts him and is just saying like, everything's okay. And we're always going
Starting point is 01:07:46 to be together. And I love you so much. And then after she's put him to bed, she goes into the woods and digs up her mom's skeleton, cradling it, hugging it, sobbing. I miss you so much. I miss you so much. I don't know what to do. Tell me what to do. I just wanted to make you proud. I wish you could meet Antonio. He's perfect. Really, really devastating stuff here. Very, yeah, we're not feeling great. And then we see a bunch of cop cars approaching some sirens in the distance. She runs back inside, runs, wakes up Antonio. She's holding him. He's obviously very scared.
Starting point is 01:08:31 It's the middle of the night and she's panicked. And he's saying, what's wrong? What's wrong? She's saying, nothing's wrong. Nothing's wrong. And it's like, I love you so much. And like, whatever you find out, just know that I've always loved you. And I'll always love you no matter anything you learn.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And we're hearing the police downstairs banging and saying, you know, police open up, breaking down the door as she grabs a knife, takes Antonio and they like huddle in a little corner. She's using the knife like defensively, like she's going to attack the cops or something. And she's, as they come into the room, she's saying like, you can't take my baby. You'll never take my baby. And then we cut to an exterior of the house and just hear a gunshot. And that's the end of the movie.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Okay. So what do we think the gunshot was? We think that was the police killing her? Yeah. Before she had a chance to kill Antonio, because I was thinking she was going to kill... I don't think she was going to kill Antonio. You don't think so? Okay. It certainly, like, was a possibility, but it didn't
Starting point is 01:09:39 look like that was her intention. No, I'm saying, like, no matter what you learn, I feel like she was like, you're going to find out. Yeah, that gives him a future. I'm curious how the cops what you learn, I feel like she was like, you're going to find out. Yeah. I'm curious how the cops found her. This woman couldn't speak or see. Yeah, I don't know. But I guess she must have not been very far from the house. Yeah, written something down maybe.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Yeah. Jesus Christ. That was brutal. A happy ending. Antonio probably reunited with his real mother, Lucy. Mother who's not going to have any problems at all. No, she'll be really well adjusted in no time. She's going to snap right back to being a good mom.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, it really is one of those movies that makes you think how there's things so much worse than death. Death is really a blessing in a lot of ways not the worst thing that can happen correct correct what was the point of the movie is my question what were we trying to what was the message we were trying to i think it's about the dangers of loneliness and the ingredients to make someone a murderer or like potential things. I read something that was talking about how there's all these little things that don't necessarily mean anything on their own, like being acquainted with dissecting bodies from a really young age and having that desensitization to you know chopping up um eyeballs and and seeing the
Starting point is 01:11:18 insides of bodies and then having a very super traumatic event, super traumatic event happen and witnessing it and having like no emotional. Yeah, no, no, no emotional or like no affectionate person to raise you or dad being very distant. So there's just all these things that led her down this dark path, not saying that that's where that path has to and should have led. But I just think it was kind of about that, like those pieces of the of the puzzle to make somebody really bad really bad and um yeah so going back to the the saint francis thing i feel like the loneliness was a big part of it too just like isolation and the things that you'll do to have someone in the world beside you which like just go and hang out at that bar and like meet people there's i know yeah it's not, yeah, it's not that fucking hard. It's not that fucking hard, bitch.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Like, cause you know where the bar is. It's a lot harder to like keep a half dead man alive in your barn for several years. It's a lot harder. It's a lot harder to do that. A lot harder. Seems like a lot of work.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. I guess you do what you know, you know? Yeah yeah that was bad and it could have been worse it was tough it was short so it was like gripping a band-aid off yeah i was glad nothing bad happened to antonio i mean a lot of bad things did happen to antonio but it could have been worse for him yeah yeah i mean it was fascinating i've never um it never was boring and it was never predictable predictable that was that it's upsetting i'm upset i know it is upsetting it is upsetting though really it's just sad brutal yeah like really devastating really devastating stuff yeah happening there it
Starting point is 01:13:26 kind of made me want to re-watch a girl walks home alone at night which i don't know if is thematically similar but just i think the black and white was reminding me that movie is also black and white and focuses mainly on a a girl alone and i was like that would be interesting. People have asked us to do that a lot. That's been a big recommendation is that one. Yeah, we do. We should do it eventually. It is very good. It's the same actress that's in The Rental, which we
Starting point is 01:13:55 covered and I really like her and I do need to rewatch it. So yeah, maybe we'll do that. But I think that one is a little... I mean, I can't really remember, but I don't think it's quite as dark and bleak as this one. That's fine with me.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah, sounds good. That sounds good to me. Yeah. Ooh, this was... Yeah, my goodness. I love you, Sammy. I love you, Emily. I've got to go right now. Okay. I gotta go.
Starting point is 01:14:28 She has to go. I love you guys so, so, so much. Like literally, you don't even know. You don't even know how much I love you. We love you, Emily. We love you, listeners. And we, you know, just, just, just take care of yourselves. Get some vitamins. Go see some people. Take your vitamins. You know, it is a new year, so I do feel required to sort of remind you all to moisturize. You know, we are moisturizing.
Starting point is 01:15:02 We are taking our supplements. We are going out and speaking to people. we're staying in and speaking to people but we are just going to talk we're going to not we're going to talk to people whenever we can human connection it's important we're social creatures we are social creatures we are going to only provide Nice and good opinions To people Yep What else are we going to do? Start dream journals Dream journals
Starting point is 01:15:34 Really big year Really great year We'll Try to do a more fun one next week That would be so cool That would be so cool I would love it And I'm sorry but we have to do a voice
Starting point is 01:15:53 And there is a voice that I can do No I don't Sammy fine Henley has departed Two weeks in a row We've had one of us just disappear. Yeah, she's fine. But she also, you know, she doesn't need to listen to this.
Starting point is 01:16:13 So she's not fine. And she's. Yeah, she doesn't need to hear this part. God damn it. All right. Fine. Just do it. From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch.
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