Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE FLY (1986)
Episode Date: August 25, 2021Telepods, arm wrestling, and couples matching 80s hairstyles - we're recapping David Cronenberg's The Fly! The body horror in this movie is nasty as hell so we decided to also make it availab...le as a video episode on our Patreon (available to all tiers)! Be afraid. Be very afraid.The Fly is available to rent for $3.9900:00 - Shoutouts26:37 - Trivia37:04 - Recap starts Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Wow-ee.
Wow-ee, we have quite a film for you this week.
Wow-ow-ee-wow.
Wow-ow-ee-wow.
It's what you're doing Borat.
Just kidding.
It's so much grosser.
But before we get to that, we have some people who are not gross.
In fact, they're delightful.
And I am so excited to shout them out. These are our newest
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These folks were interested and we are so
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We have Leslie Jane
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Welcome. Thank you for all the important
work you do.
And we love you unconditionally forever.
Starting now.
Mm hmm.
Some more people we love.
They might love parts of this movie.
Would we say there's a vessel featured in this movie?
It's somewhat of a vessel.
It's somewhat of a vessel.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
You guys decide. I'd say true vessel heads might like it.
A true vessel head might like it.
And I know that these folks are true vessel heads.
They are Megan McGee and Alec B.
True new vessel heads.
And we also love them unconditionally forever starting now.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And welcome.
We also have a few new folks joining us in Tony fucking Colette's inner circle.
Whoa. And they are Natalie and Kaylee Galco, Julia Elliott, Rub, Gonzalo Garcia, Cassidy Irmshire, Grace Kirby, Landon Harp and Catherine Wiltshire.
Welcome to the circle. Thank you so much for
being here. We love you unconditionally
forever starting now.
Welcome. And just
a couple other folks that we
love unconditionally forever
that we've been loving unconditionally forever for
a little bit now. We got
two people who have upgraded and they are
Stacey McDonough and Trice
Sanders.
Love you guys so much.
So much.
Oh, my gosh.
It's so overwhelming, honestly.
But here we are.
And here you are.
And thank goodness.
And we love you and we hope you love this week's movie.
And it starts right now this is emily henley and
sammy and you're listening to too scary didn't watch hi everyone welcome to too scary didn't
watch the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies, so I watch them and I tell you about them.
Take the burden off you. Place the joy onto me. It's a privilege.
Ooh, it's a privilege. It's a privilege it's an honor it's a gift um wow i was okay what's up with this is what comes next i was about to ask but then i
remembered we got a review recently of someone who really hates how we repeat each other and
and now and i it's like somebody just repeats what everybody else says. And I read that and was like, it's me. I'm the one.
And now I'm like very aware of it.
But I literally, I can't.
I'll do it and be like, you did it.
So anyway, if it was you, I'm sorry.
I can't help it.
It could easily have been me.
I definitely feel like I repeat what you guys say 100%.
I like to do it.
Also, I think that part of my emotional growth
needs to be not being scared of people
being mean on the internet because I live
in fear of these
reviews, man. I live in fear of being, you know,
8 out of 10 women
who just doesn't understand
horror movies. Yeah, and you know what?
There's not...
Can't please everybody. No, you can't.
Most of the time, we're lucky if we can just
make ourselves happy
yeah some of the time
that's a high bar
other people if
what can be done what can be done
anyway so I will be repeating
everything I can't help
it but what's up with us
what's up with us
I have a small little thing. I am at home
in Maryland where I grew up visiting my parents. A lovely home. A lovely home. And I witnessed the
craziest thing last night. So I am from the eastern shore of Maryland, which is like kind
of swampland. We're right next to Chesapeake Bay right near the water i forgot how swampy it is here um and i say that only because i feel like it's probably connected to this weather phenomenon
i witnessed which is starting at like 9 p.m until 1 a.m there was just constant
heat lightning like constant lightning with no noise, no thunder, nothing accompanying it,
no rain. But it was just like every every like three seconds there was lightning. It looked
like a strobe light outside of my window. That's crazy. And it started at nine and I was like,
whoa, this is nuts. And then I went to bed and then I woke up at one because Silas got up
and it was still happening. It was still happening. It was insane. So I don't know whether anyone else has ever
witnessed this. I tried to quickly Google it to see if there's like this is a thing. I didn't
really find anything in my very, very brief Internet research. I mean, he's saying heat
lightning is obviously a thing, but I've never experienced it in this way where it's constant and last for that long.
It was wild.
It felt like the apocalypse, honestly.
Yeah.
Nature's crazy.
Nature is amazing.
Nature's crazy.
Nothing else to say.
I think we should take a moment to say that we are recording this as a video recording as well
for our patrons and we're doing the fly sorry not to give that away we hate to spoil it i hate to
spoil it but sam sammy and i have some really fun nature backgrounds for our video recordings yeah
i don't it doesn't my computer won don't. It simply doesn't.
My computer won't do it.
It simply won't.
And it's been a tough thing to realize in this past year
where everybody has fun...
Zoom backgrounds.
Backgrounds and meetings and stuff.
And I just...
I can't participate.
And it's hard for me
because you know how much I love to participate in things.
So it's been really...
I'm so sorry, guys.
Maybe a fly will fly in. fly in likely there will be a fly
in my apartment while i record this because it's summer in la so fingers crossed maybe we'll get
lucky fingers crossed fingers crossed i did it again it's okay i mean when people point out
speech patterns it's the fucking worst because it's like I can't change it.
That's how I talk.
I don't know what to tell you.
So an exciting thing about me when this episode comes out, I'll be in Portugal.
Oh, my God. So jealous. I'll be in Hawaii. You'll be in Portugal. Oh my god.
So jealous.
I'll be in Hawaii.
You'll be in Hawaii. Amazing.
Not to steal your thunder, Sammy. Portugal is cooler, but we're both going to have great
times. Hey, we don't need to compare them. It's not a contest.
They're both cool.
They're both cool.
My mom has been
in Portugal for the past few months
and so I'm going to visit her she's so
fucking excited i i have time off from work because i freelance obviously so when i finish
a job i i don't have a job until the next job and right now i don't have a job and i told her i'd
come visit if if i had time off and then i had time off so i booked a ticket and she was like
I had time off and then I had time off.
So I booked a ticket and she was like, so shocked.
Like she was like, you actually, you did, you did it.
Like she did not believe that I was going to do it.
And I was like, yeah, I told you I was going to do it.
Why wouldn't I come to Portugal with a freaking free place to stay?
I've never been to Portugal.
It's going to be so great.
I'm very excited.
Assuming that I pass a COVID test.
I'm like, this is like the week leading up to it.
And I'm going to be staying inside and being very safe because.
Yeah, same.
I do not want to fucking get COVID and then not be able to go. I was thinking about those the poor Olympians
who tested positive for
COVID and then couldn't go to the Olympics.
And they're asymptomatic
and vaccinated and you can't
go. It's awful.
Oh, sorry you achieved your lifelong
dream during a
pandemic.
Sorry.
Honestly, I didn't know that. I didn't know that happened to Olympians. long dream during a pandemic. Sorry. Sorry.
Honestly, I didn't know that.
I didn't know that happened to a few people.
It fucking sucks
for them. I really feel for them.
It's awful. Yeah, it's really bad.
It definitely would be worse than either of us
getting COVID and missing our trips.
Again, we don't have to compare.
It would be bad.
Wait, Sammy, so you're going to Lisbon?
I'll be in Lisbon for part of the time
and Aracera
for most of the time.
Aracera is a cool name of a place.
It is a cool name.
Yeah, I had never heard of it.
It sounds like someone's name in LA.
And this is my barista
Aracera.
My barista.
I introduced my barista. And this is my barista. My barista.
And this is my barista.
Sarah.
Honestly, perfect.
Perfect.
That kind of,
that kind of reminds me of the joke from hacks when she's back in LA and they're like, how are you doing in LA? And she's like,
everyone dresses so well here.
I can't tell who's Haim and who's just
three people walking three people walking Sammy you probably I wouldn't couldn't even begin to
remember the where or and if and this was nine years ago nine and a half years ago so who even
knows but um I had the best toast of my life in Lisbon.
So much so that, like,
it was just toast, but I think
about it a lot.
Wait, so was there something on the toast?
It was
just, I mean,
I just went to study abroad in Spain and
went to Portugal, and toast
for breakfast is just, like, a big, big
thing in that region.
Like there's very like it's like just a thing.
Every day I had bread for fucking five months.
I love bread.
I love bread.
It was just like really good bread.
It's also just like fresh, good, real things.
Like it was really good bread with real butter and freshly made jam.
And it was two pieces
and they served it to you like sandwich
together so it was all warm and
melty and it just was like
damn unbelievable
it was unbelievable
I gotta have it it's unbelievable
toast so probably there's
a lot of places you can get good god you're gonna be
in Europe oh
oh man it's really cool that you're gonna be in Europe. Ugh. Oh, man. It's really cool that
you're gonna be there. I'm excited.
I'm excited. Ugh. How long are you going
for, Sammy? Ten days.
Perfect.
Perfect amount of time. That's a trip!
That's a trip!
Now that's a trip!
We all did it.
We all do it!
Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. we all did it we all do it sorry sorry
sorry
Emily what about you
how is your what's up with you
I mean I'm going to Hawaii next week
I've never been to Hawaii
in my life I know everyone's going to Hawaii right now
and it's like
somewhat problematic and I
and I'm sorry and I'm
and I booked my trip was
booked before I thought about
that it could be problematic which is in and of itself
problematic. Sometimes it's hard for
me that people I don't know listen to
me talk on this podcast but anyway
I'm going to Hawaii next week
and
I'm very excited. I really am very excited. Joel and I are going to Hawaii next week. And I'm very excited.
I really am very excited.
Joel and I are going to go just for
fun, just for five days
and I, in anticipation
of going to Hawaii, I'm trying
to make 1,000 outfits, as
you both know, and so all I'm doing
in every minute of my free time is
making 1,000 outfits and I'm
pretty overwhelmed but
i think it will i think i'll be glad i did it but yeah so all of my time is being focused on like
curating vibes for every single day in hawaii but it you know i think we'll see i think it'll be
good i'm excited about what i got so far Being able to like control my aesthetic to such a degree now with these new hobbies I've picked up is, as I've said before, a blessing and a curse.
Yeah. Because so many options.
It is my very favorite thing to do. And also like I need to not always do it, but I could if I really spent all my time on it, which is what I've been doing.
Well,
you know,
on the subreddit collapse,
Jesus Christ,
about the imminent collapse of human civilization,
which you did not subscribe to,
but you have looked at.
I take a peek now and again.
I want to take a peek at collapse.
One of the things it often says
and suggests is to learn
how to mend your own clothing.
Wow. You're ahead of the game
here. Thank God I'm prepared for the
collapse of society.
Thank God. No, I'll be over here fucking
trying to make a vibe for each day
and like I won't be.
Your post-apocalyptic
closet. What would that be filled with? trying to make a vibe for each day and like I won't be your post apocalyptic closet
what would that be filled with just like
camo like things with like tons of pockets
so many
pockets I would add pockets
yeah it would become very utilitarian but like
cool yeah a lot of
inside pockets I would make like quilted
jackets with inside pockets
you know what else you would need a lot of reversible
stuff like I feel like that would come in handy yes now you're thinking you know what else you would need? A lot of reversible stuff. Like I feel like that would come
in handy. Yes, now you're thinking.
You know what's going to become in handy
is, remember those pants like
in elementary, middle school that
zipped into capris and
then into shorts? We're all
going to be wearing, oh shit, should I make some
of those? No, that's crazy. I might.
We need multifunctional clothing, yeah.
So that's what's going to be big in the inevitable collapse of our society.
Layers and pockets.
Yeah.
It's pretty cool.
It is pretty cool.
And another pretty cool and fun thing is this week's movie.
You guys are going to love.
Oh, I'm sure.
You're wrong.
As Henley mentioned, it is The Fly.
We have our video backgrounds of flies behind us.
So appropriate.
It came out in 1986.
Directed by David Cronenberg, written by Charles Edward Pogue and David Cronenberg, based on a short story by George Langellan, starring Jeff Goldblum, Gina Davis and John Goetz.
And it is available to rent for $3.99, a small price to pay for some of the gnarliest body parts.
Yeah, I forgot this was Cronenberg
and now I'm like, oh, fuck.
Oh, fuck.
You know, I feel like I
had to watch this in college
for a class and I've
blocked out the entire thing. Like, I don't
remember. I mean, I know what happens
in it because it's pretty straightforward what happens
but I don't really actually remember. I know't remember. I mean, I know what happens in it because it's pretty straightforward what happens. But I don't really actually remember.
Right.
Yeah.
But no, I've never seen anything.
I think I thought at one point, like, oh, I could watch The Fly mainly because, I don't know, because Jeff Goldblum's in it.
So I was like, how bad can it be?
But that's, like, not the bar.
Like, actors can be in things.
Like, he's in Jurassic Park, so this is going to be the same as Jurassic Park.
Right. But I don't think it is.
Can I ask a really stupid question? Of course.
What is Jeff Goldblum most
famous for? That's not a stupid
question. Because I feel like he's
really famous and I really know who he is.
But then when I think about what he's been in, I can think of
Jurassic Park and The Fly. And that's it.
When does Jurassic Park
come out?
1990 or something after this
is after the fly right okay yeah
yeah I feel like it would
be Jurassic Park would be his most famous
but yeah the first thing he was in was
Annie Hall um he's
in Annie Hall he
just answers answers a phone
and okay so okay
like literal first like little first thing okay
okay um and yeah they actually didn't want to cast him in this movie because he was so not well
known at this point so i think jurassic park is what kind of put him more on the map so maybe this
was this like made him a castable actor and then Jurassic Park made him like. Yeah.
Because also I think too that it said he was so hot in Jurassic Park.
Like they made him like his like shirt down and like, you know.
He's a very sexy man.
He's a very sexy man.
And now I feel like he's just in every fucking Wes Anderson movie.
Like that's what he's been doing lately, I feel.
Yeah, that's true.
So Jurassic Park was 1993.
I'm just looking this up really, really quick.
He's been in.
OK, he was in he's in Boss Baby, which comes out this year.
I've heard it's good.
Boss Baby 2, you mean?
Boss Baby 2.
Boss Baby Family Business.
You've heard it's good?
I've heard it's good? I've heard it's good.
What a fucking relief.
I haven't heard.
Yeah, he's just in a bunch of Wes Anderson, Life Aquatic, Grand Budapest Hotel.
He's in the Independence Day movies.
Right.
That's right.
It might be Independence Day.
That's his most known thing.
Also, he's in Marvel movies.
He's in Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor.
Ragnarok he's in.
I don't even remember him in Guardians of the Galaxy.
I don't either. There must be the
same character right?
Yeah he plays Grandmaster.
Yeah.
That's his character.
Well I have met Jeff
Goldblum a number of times.
This is right. So I have to brag about it
He plays piano, jazz piano
And used to play gigs in LA pretty regularly
So I would go all the time just because I was obsessed with him
Yeah, you really were
I've held hands with him
I've kissed him on the cheek
Sammy, I forgot this
And you stopped being obsessed
with him. Why? He did something weird.
I think Keanu just took over.
Okay, but I also feel like maybe we all
were sort of like, oh, he's just like
maybe
too old and weird.
I mean, he dates people
my age.
He has a baby.
He has a wife and a baby.
How old is he?
He is, I think, 65.
And his wife is...
35?
He's 68.
He's 68 and she is...
38.
You know how
fucked up my brain is? I was like, that's not that bad.
No, it's bad
but they've been together for a while that makes it worse yeah because she was very young
she was younger oh okay the names of their children are charlie ocean and river joe
Ocean and River Joe.
Love it.
River Joe.
River Joe is such a hard second to Charlie Ocean.
Guys, here is a picture
of me and Jeff.
Get out of town.
Does that look like you at all?
You have the same bangs. Are those bangs?
Those are bangs. That's when your hair was reddish and bangs, right?
Yeah, not my best look, but Jeff was there.
But Jeff was there.
A good day nonetheless.
What's your cutoff point, do you think, actually, to date a man?
Age?
Yeah.
Because 68, honestly, even if it's Jeff Goldblum it's like you're 68 like I really don't think
I could get past the thought
of like 68
a 68 year old's like body
touching mine do you know what I mean
yeah am I gonna be
am I gonna regret saying this
our 68 year old audience is gonna
come for you
there's nothing wrong with a 68-year-old's
body, but I don't want it
on my body.
You are not 68.
I'm not 68.
So you haven't had time to come to terms with
what a 68-year-old body means.
Exactly.
You'll be prepared for it when you're 68.
And not a moment sooner.
And you'll think it's hot at that point.
I think it's so hot.
I'm hot and I'm 68.
No, I am curious what your answers to this are.
I feel like I know my answer.
Well,
I think probably 42.
I was going to say
45.
I was going to say 50, but then I was like
that's crazy.
No, I think 45. I could do 45 for Ooh. I was going to say 50, but then I was like, that's crazy. No, I think 45. I could
do 45 for sure.
I could do 45 for sure.
Well, it's just because I think about people
I know who are
40, and I'm like,
oh, that's not that much
older, actually. Yeah, the people, I know
some hot, hot 40-year-olds. I know
some hot 45-year-olds. Maybe I'm going back to 50. Yeah. Yeah, the people, I know some hot, hot 40-year-olds. I know some hot 45-year-olds. Maybe I'm going
back to 50. Yeah.
Yeah, it does feel
like a big jump to say 50. It's about
the person, but also
not if they're 68.
As Twilight says,
age is just a number. Age is
just a number, baby.
But also 68 is a little too old
for a 38. It's too much of a 38. It's too much of a number.
It is too much of a number.
I'm really glad we cleared this up.
Well, just two quick things.
One, wouldn't it be tricky?
Like you wouldn't get a lot of the same cultural references.
Yes.
Absolutely.
No, 100%.
I dated someone who, I mean, now is in his
40s and we had like cultural
like favorite bands. He was like,
grew up in the 80s and like
completely different experience. Always playing 80s music
and I was like, I'm a 90s girl.
And this is a huge disconnect.
TV shows, even
just like moments in
time you would have experienced
so differently. And I think some of that stuff
doesn't matter as much to everyone but but it that is a lot it would be weird to be like where were
you in 9-11 it's like i was in sixth grade math class and they were like i was like at my third
job yeah i had it just be like i just especially when i see like 20 year olds with 50 year olds, I'm just like a 20 year old's brain is so stupid.
Like I just let alone cultural references.
It's just like, what do you talk about?
I thought I knew so much when I was 20 and I wouldn't want to talk to myself at 20.
And that gets into like a power dynamic, too.
And so it gets tricky, especially when one of those people is Leonardo DiCaprio.
Which I really don't like.
Also, yeah.
How old is Leo?
He's not 50.
Yeah, he's in his 50s for sure.
In his 50s?
Oh shit. I think of him as like always...
I think he's in... Is he in his 50s now?
Or is he in his 40s?
He's 46. 50s now. Or is he in his 40s? He's 46.
He's lived a hard life.
Oh my god.
I'm sorry. That was mean.
But I don't like that he dates 20 year olds.
Yeah. He doesn't live well.
Let's just say that.
He's lived many lifetimes
in those 46 years.
The other quick thing I want to say is that even if you have like a very healthy
relationship and you're like deeply in love and
all of that it would fucking
suck to be the one 30 years
younger oh it would be awful and then
your person you're like
madly in love with and you've built this relationship
with is gonna get like
gonna pass away like so much earlier than you.
And not even just pass away, just get
ailment.
Especially because women live longer than men.
So the dynamic is typically
that the man is older than the woman.
And I know...
That would just be really hard.
Working at my salon job in Beverly Hills,
you believe, if you can, that
that dynamic is present in some of our clients.
And yeah, it's
just like you get to a point like women are
60 and their husbands are 80 and like,
okay, so you're going to die soon.
And I'm still a 60-year-old woman.
Which is fucking young.
And it's, yeah, it's a lot to
sign yourself up for. Especially then when you have kids
like Jeff Goldblum's kid
is going to live most of his life
without his dad and
Jeff Goldblum's wife is going to live most of her life without
her partner. It would be so sad.
I'm just saying it would be sad.
It would be tough. That's all we're saying.
That it would be sad.
If anybody
remembers this conversation later
just remember that all we're saying
is why it would be sad.
Just remember that.
So, the fly.
The fly.
Alright, folks. Grab your bourbon.
You are gonna need it.
It is cocktail hour, and this week we are
drinking a lucid fly
cocktail. For the
lucid fly, you will need one ounce of bourbon, one ounce of
cherry hearing, two ounces of tang, a fourth a teaspoon of absinthe, and a dash of cherry bitters.
You will combine all of those ingredients in your cocktail shaker with ice and shake and strain into an ice-filled old-fashioned glass, and you will garnish with an orange
round.
Nothing makes me thirstier than a little bit of body horror, so enjoy.
Cheers.
All right, let's get into some trivia.
Uh-huh.
It has a 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 79% on Metacritic, a 7.6 on IMDb.
The budget was somewhere between $9 and $15 million.
It made $60.6 million.
And I think just important to point out, it is a remake.
There is a 1958 version of this film starring Vincent Price. Which I've never seen. I
own it. Someone bought it for me as
a gift and I've still never seen it.
It's on DVD and I don't have a DVD player
unfortunately. That's also
so sad.
Thank you. Thank you, Henley.
I appreciate that.
That's so sad.
It won an Academy
Award for Best Makeup for Chris Wallace and Stéphane Dupuis.
Oof, boy.
Don't know if I said that right.
But the makeup is, like, truly incredible.
The special effects and makeup is really amazing.
It took almost five hours to apply the most extensive makeup to Jeff Goldblum at like the final stages of the film, which like I feel like doesn't sound like as long as some other movies we've talked about.
That would suck.
I know it's still much.
It would be so boring and uncomfortable.
Wait, how long?
How long was it?
Five hours.
Five hours.
Yeah.
Five hours. Yeah, because in Ginger Snaps
it was something like insane.
Like 12 hours for her to
get into her werewolf
costume. Spoiler alert. She
turns into a werewolf in that movie.
Yeah, I mean...
And then imagine
you sit in a chair for five hours
then you have to go do
your job. And then you're so tired and someone has five hours then you have to go do your job
and then you're so tired and someone has to
take it all off of you.
Off of you.
What a drag. What a drag.
God fucking damn it.
I can't not do it.
Get out of my head, me.
Okay.
Some casting what-ifs.
We like these.
Mm-hmm.
Because, as I mentioned, they did not want Jeff Goldblum because they did not think that
he was famous enough, a big enough draw.
So, other names that were considered were Michael Keaton, Mel Gibson, James Woods, John
Lithgow, Richard Dreyfuss, Willem Dafoe
and John Travolta
Ooh, Willem Dafoe would have been great
Willem Dafoe would be great in everything
I fucking love Willem Dafoe as
we all know and I think he's hot
And he has a huge
penis
These two things
if you say the name
Willem Dafoe, Two things must be mentioned
Sammy thinks he's hot, he has a huge penis
And we will, listeners will never
Let you down on those two things
Anytime that name is mentioned
And we won't dive into the complications of the age difference
There and today
Because we've already addressed it
It just would be sad if I dated him
It would be sad to watch him die before me We've addressed it. It just would be sad if I dated him, okay? It would be sad to watch him die before me.
We've addressed it.
Oh, boy.
You know how we feel.
At the time, Jeff Goldblum was dating Geena Davis, and he actually suggested her for the part.
They were married.
Oh, my God.
What a cool guy.
Wasn't she so much more famous
than he was? Maybe not yet.
I don't think so. When was Thelma and Louise?
I think Thelma and Louise was
after. Is it the 80s?
And when was the League of Their Own? 90s?
Yeah, that's 90s.
And yeah, Thelma and Louise
was 91. okay oh cool
she's fucking so cool she's very
cool she's very cool so David
Cronenberg met with some opposition when he
announced that he wanted to cast Jeff Goldblum in the lead
role the executive at Fox who was supervising
the project felt that Goldblum was
not a bankable star and Chris Wallace
felt that his face would be difficult to work
with for the makeup effects
both however deferred to Cronenberg's judgment.
Cronenberg himself later had reservations when Goldblum suggested Gina Davis, his girlfriend at the time, for the other lead role, as he did not want to have to work with a real life couple.
Cronenberg was convinced after Davis's first reading that she was right for the role.
Producer Stuart Kornfeld suggested that they audition
more actresses, saying, it's the script
that's brilliant. Kornfeld
relented after nobody else even came
close. It's very funny to be like, it's not
Geena Davis that's good, it's the script.
Anyone could do this.
Jesus. I wouldn't want to work with
a real-life couple either, though. I feel like that
could be complicated.
But hey, good for all of them.
Yeah. They were married
you said, Sammy? I don't know if they were married
at this time, but they were married at a time.
Yes.
Well, it seems like they really supported each other
at least in this moment of their lives.
So that's very nice. Yeah. And they're so
age appropriate. Yes, they are.
Some other casting
options for Geena Davis's
character, I guess
the ones that were not even
come close were Jennifer Jason Leigh
and Laura Dern.
So, hard to believe that they
sucked, but... Yeah, doubt it.
They might just not have been the right energy
for the thing, you know. Sure.
There's no way they sucked. I don't buy it for a second.
I don't buy it. I love Jennifer Jason Leigh.
And Laura Dern. And I love
Laura Dern. Yeah.
We have some director what-ifs. It was
I guess at one point going to be Tim Burton
directing. Whoa.
That would have been different. Interesting.
Which means it would have starred Johnny Depp.
Yep, that's right.
And then it was
Robert Bierman was signed
on and like starting the
project. He is the director of
Vampire's Kiss, one of my all-time
favorites.
But his daughter tragically died in an
accident right before and so he dropped
out because he said the movie was
too dark. And also I don't
think the movie needed to be dark in order
to yeah dropping out
being okay I think yeah
oh that's very sad very sad
um and then
this was just in the
trivia it's a director trademark
David Cronenberg multiple
instances of carnage
just made me laugh
love it what's his most famous other pull instances of carnage. Just made me laugh.
Love it.
What's his most famous other than the fly?
Video drone?
Yeah, I don't really know, actually. Video drone.
That's the one I
know of. I think the fly is his most
famous. Yeah, okay. But
yeah, he's
obviously one of the
basically started body horror. Cool horror if you're talking body
horror david cronenberg's in that conversation very cool that's all i have should we watch the
trailer let's watch the trailer i think you're making a mistake i think you really want to talk
to me sorry i have three other interviews to do before this party's over.
Yeah, but they're not working on something that will change the world as we know it.
They say they are.
Yeah, but they're lying.
There is a limit, even to the imagination.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging.
Where our greatest creations meet our deepest fears.
Something went wrong, Seth.
When you went through, something went wrong.
You are about to go beyond that limit.
Those weird hairs that were growing out of your back, I had them analyzed.
They were definitely not human.
If you saw how scared and angry and desperate he is...
I'm sure Typhoid Mary was a very nice person, too, when you saw her socially.
No!
You're afraid to be destroyed and recreated, aren't you?
You're changing, Seth. Everything about you is changing.
Oh, no. What's happening to me am
i dying i want to know what's going on what does the disease want wants to turn me into something
else oh no a fly got into the transmitter pod with me that first time when i was alone
don't go back to it could be contagious i'm. I'm afraid. Don't be afraid.
No. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Help me. Please, help me. Please.
Help me.
No.
You don't like it?
No.
I'm not gonna like this app.
Oh. No. It's so gross like this app. Oh. Oh. No.
It is so gross and it's like
sad.
Yeah, it's sad.
It's really sad.
I don't like either of those things.
It kind of reminds me of, um, what was that
movie about the aliens that ate cat food?
District 9.
District 9.
Yeah.
Oh, that one really fucked me up, too.
It's just the idea of like your body turning into something else is just absolutely horrific. As a kid, one of my scariest things I ever saw, to me, was fucking Disney's Pinocchio when those boys turn into donkeys.
It's very scary and very upsetting.
So I'm not going to lie to this.
This is very similar to that.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or Animorphs.
Remember that book series?
Oh, yeah.
But that was cool every cover like
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Okay, so we jump right into Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis's characters meeting each other for for the first time. Their names are Seth Brundle and Veronica Quaife. And they are at some like
science conference, a press event where she's talking to him and he's basically saying that he's
working on something really, really big and it's going to change the world as we know it. And she kind of is rolling her
eyes at him like, yeah, I've got three more interviews to do. Everybody's saying that.
And he's like, yeah, but they're all lying. And I'm telling the truth. I mean it. And
eventually convinces her to come back to his place to see what he show her what he's working on.
Show her what he's working on.
And they drive there and it's like an abandoned warehouse.
And I personally would be absolutely terrified driving to an abandoned warehouse with a man I just met who's like, let me show you my science creations. I'm changing the world.
Come with me.
She doesn't seem scared at all, I guess, it's jeff goldblum and he's hot
but i think still there's nothing to fear with a hot man nothing no my my danger sensors were
going off but not gina davis's and guess what she's right he's not bad yet and so she goes in and uh there's like these two things in in his house that look like
she calls them like funny telephone booth things and he says they're teleporters
and she's still rolling her eyes at him. Let's change to a little background, get some.
Oh, they have the same hair.
They have the same hair.
They have the exact same hair.
86, when everybody's hair was the same.
Everybody's hair is the same.
They also kind of have like similar,
they have like siblings are dating vibes to me a little bit.
I can see it.
They have a similar intensity
of appearance.
So
he basically
says, okay, give me
something of yours, something personal
and I'll show you.
And she takes off her
shoe and
takes off one of her pantyhose and gives it to him.
It's very like a little sexy scene.
Sexy.
And he lays it in one of the telepods.
And there's a little control panel that he speaks into that's voice activated.
He says like, Seth Brundle, initiate teleportation sequence.
Computer's like, do-do-do, do Brundle, initiate teleportation sequence. Computer's like,
do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do, and the stalking
basically evaporates
and reappears
in the other telepod.
And she is
pretty blown away.
Immediately pulls out her
tape recorder
and starts taping him, asking him questions.
But she doesn't tell him.
She kind of slips it in her pocket and says, you know, how did you do this?
How have you been working on this alone?
Like, how does nobody know about this?
He's kind of answering some questions.
And then the tape recorder makes a noise that it needs to be flipped to the other side. And he's like, wait, wait, wait, you're taping this?
You can't do that. There can't be a story about this. It's not ready yet. And she's like, well,
I'm a journalist. What did you think this was? And that's why I'm here. And I, too,
am a little confused at what he thought was going on, if not this, where it was like literally you met at a press conference for science things.
Anyways, he seems pretty upset that she would even consider writing an article about this.
And she basically storms out and is like, that's why I'm here.
This is stupid. I'm leaving.
basically storms out and is like, that's why I'm here. This is stupid. I'm leaving.
And she goes straight to her publishing house, to her boss with the tape recorder,
and is playing back for him what Seth has said. And her boss's name is Stathis,
and he doesn't believe it. He's kind of kind of laughing like he's playing you for a fool this is a joke it's some sort of like magic trick he must be a con man and then seth like rushes in
and uh basically looks at her like well you didn't waste any time like coming right here and she's
like i'm not getting any younger she's an 80s businesswoman gina davis's vibe is pretty cool in this movie hell yeah and uh the bot stathis like kind of
laughs at him and is like oh if you need something to evaporate like i have an assistant that
is really not great at his job haha and like walks out and leaves them alone and she's like
you know frustrated and says he doesn't believe me and leaves them alone. And she's like,
you know, frustrated and says, he doesn't believe me. And Seth, big old fuf is like,
oh, thank God, because I don't want an article written about this. Can I take you to lunch? Let's talk about this. So they go and get lunch. And he starts saying, you know,
the thing that's missing and why I don't want this article out yet is that I can only teleport inanimate objects.
And so it's not super useful yet.
And once I'm able to teleport living things, then it will be a much bigger deal and we'll actually be able to change the world and change travel and change all of that.
And what I'm offering you is a chance to document all of that.
Like,
why don't you document this whole process step-by-step as I figure out how
to cross this like next barrier into having this be like a true teleportation
device.
So she agrees.
She says,
okay,
that sounds pretty good.
I would just like to say,
I disagree.
I think it's a pretty fucking big deal that you figured out how to teleport inanimate objects.
Also, that would be so cool to be like, oh, fuck, I forgot this thing.
Can somebody just teleport, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Teleport it over.
Lost luggage wouldn't be a problem anymore.
It is a big deal already.
Yes.
It's 100 percent.
It could be very useful
to communities that don't have
access to certain resources.
Exactly. Or where my
brain went, which was lost luggage.
Which is just as important.
Don't forget lost
luggage.
She asks what happens when you do
try to teleport living things. He says says i can't tell you while we're
eating and so she goes home agrees to this goes home like i'll see you later and goes home and
someone is showering in her shower and she just approaches it and opens the shower curtain if i
came home and someone was showering in my shower, I would get out of the house.
I feel like.
100%.
Out of the house.
She's not afraid of anything.
She'll go to abandoned warehouses with strange men she's just met.
She'll go straight to the person in the shower and pull back the shower curtain.
She's not bothered.
But it is Stathis, her boss.
And we come to learn that they have a previous relationship that seems to now be over.
She's very irritated that he's there.
He said, I still have the key.
And I was in the neighborhood.
And she's like, I was dirty.
Whatever.
It was dirty.
Whatever.
And she's angry. And she's's like give me your key back i knew
i should have changed the locks give me your key right now like you can't come here anymore like
this is over we're not together anymore and you can tell that he still wants to be together with
her and she doesn't but she kicks him out then she goes back to set's house. He basically lives in his little house lab.
And
they test it
on, test the teleport
telepods on a baboon.
Let me change my visual aid.
They just casually have
a baboon? They have two baboons
casually. Jesus Christ.
Okay. Apparently the baboons
were hard to work with because as we
learned in, what was it?
The
omen? The omen, yeah.
Good memory, hun.
Yeah, baboons are scary too.
Like I feel like. Yeah.
But the babies are really cute
and their butts are
very funny. Butts are for sure funny.
That's true. Very funny. Funniest butt you funny butts are for sure funny that's true very funny funniest butt you can
work with for sure but yeah man i'd be scared to work with baboons and apparently they were
hard to train and they said basically it probably only went well because jeff goldblum is six foot
four and so had like clear dominance over the baboon and was like able to establish
like you can't beat
me in a fight. I bet you
anything Jeff Bullblum wrote that trivia
was like immediately
wrote that trivia but also
I could see him as a person who was like oh
what is it? It's a baboon? Okay oh it's a baboon
and he's just like he's fucking ready to like
do like he probably was so unfazed
yeah he's weird and yeah he do like he probably was so unfazed yeah he's weird and
yeah he was he was thriving he was thriving in that situation absolutely yeah i forgot jeff
goldblum is six four very tall he's tall that is it's extremely tall very very tall um so they
tried on this baboon and the baboon turns inside out unfortunately and it looks really gross it's just kind of this pulsing
puddle of like muscle and yuck oh um and i don't know if you guys have seen galaxy quest but a
pretty similar thing happens and i have but it's been so long me too me too galaxy quest um and Me too. I love Galaxy Quest. And so, you know, they still haven't figured this out.
And they're just around the apartment place.
And they're starting to kind of flirt.
I mean, they've been flirty.
But now they're really getting into some flirting.
And she basically notices that he wears the same outfit every day.
And he's like, oh, if I wear the same thing every day, I don't have to waste time choosing an outfit in the morning.
She opens his closet and it's like a cartoon closet of just like 10 pairs of the same everything.
It's Barack Obama.
That's what he said when he was president.
Because you eliminate decision fatigue.
Yeah. If you don't think about Because you eliminate decision fatigue. Yeah.
If you don't think about what you have to buy.
You're a man. How many options do you have?
Especially Obama. It's like you're wearing a suit.
Every day you're wearing a suit and a shirt and a tie.
So what's...
It's all the same anyway?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like to do that with breakfast.
I've been eating the same exact breakfast every day for a while now.
I eat the same breakfast every day.
Wait, what are your breakfasts that you guys eat?
Plain Greek yogurt with berries.
I eat a smoothie.
Banana, spinach, ginger, lemon.
It's really good.
It is really good.
Wow, you guys are great. i have been having oatmeal a lot recently
oatmeal's great i can love oatmeal anyway anyway uh so she's very charmed by him he's jeff goldblum
after all she says you're very cute you know that and that's all it takes. And boom, they're having sex. Boom.
As they have sex or as they're like finished having sex, he rolls over and says, ouch, ouch, ouch.
And we see that he's rolled over basically onto like a computer chip that's stuck into his back.
And Veronica pulls it out and just leaves like two kind of deep scratches on his back.
She says she brought over steaks for them to eat that night.
And he kind of looks like a little light bulb goes on and says, can we try something?
And he takes one of the steaks and cooks it, puts the other steak through the teleporter first and cooks that one and makes her take a bite out of each one and she says she spits out the one that's gone
through the teleporter and she says so it tastes wrong it tastes synthetic and he says that's it
the computer is doing it's like approximation of what it thinks a stake is
rather than just recreating the stake and i don't totally get how he gets from a to b here but this
is his aha moment where he kind of figures out what the computer needs and he's like i need to
teach the computer what a stake is before it can i I don't know,
correctly rearrange the particles or something.
Sure.
Science-y.
Some science-y.
Sure.
So she stays there all night,
and the next morning she leaves,
and we see that Stathis has been following her.
Cool.
And she goes to a men's clothing store to buy Seth a leather jacket
and and staff is like pops out of the corner and is like okay fine I've been following you
and she's very angry and he basically says i can't believe you spent the night there
and she says hey i'm on to something huge here and he says what is it his cock and oh good one
like really crazy and she's very annoyed with him and he's sir are you still my boss yes because
yes uh-oh hey this is the 80s this shit went on until she's lucky to even have a job
this shit went on for another
20 years
before and then it stopped
and then it stopped and never again and nobody's ever been
sexually harassed by a boss since
me too thank god
ugh
um so
she is angry
leaves him and goes back to Seth's place and they try the baboon experiment again with their second baboon they had on hand.
And, um, with this, with his new calculations that he's done, it works.
The baboon comes out the other side, alive
and well. All he had to
do was teach the computer what a
baboon is. That's all he had to do.
That's all he had to do. That's no problem.
You know? Easy peasy.
It's easy to do that. Easy peasy.
Um, and
so they're popping
champagne, they're celebrating,
and then And so they're popping champagne, they're celebrating.
And then Seth has like something that Stathis sent over and it's basically a prototype of the story.
And Veronica is really annoyed by this and like goes back to Stathis like, what the hell is this?
And he's like, well, I'm the editor on the story.
I'm the one who sent you out to get this story. This is my story and she's like are you kidding like i'm this is my story stathis basically inserts himself he's like nope
like sorry i'm the editor you'll report everything to me and then at this moment also says like maybe
we can just have um casual sex like i know you don't want to be in a relationship with me, but maybe we can just have sex.
And she's... Women are so
turned on by when
men just abuse their position
of power.
And make them feel like shit.
Absolutely love it. Yeah, it's great. Works
every time. This guy knows what he's
doing. He knows what he's doing.
He knows what he's doing.
So, Seth is alone at home getting drunk and kind of piecing together that stathis is her ex-boyfriend based on the way she kind
of stormed out after seeing the article i don't quite know how he puts together but he does and
he's like there must be her ex-boyfriend and he's jealous, and he is talking to the baboon, and it's very funny.
The baboon actor is doing a good job in this scene where they're just kind of, you know,
two dudes frustrated talking to each other, and we see a little fly buzzing around the baboon's
head. The baboon's swatting at it, and Seth says, you know what? I'm going to go through the thing right now. I'm going to do it
right now.
He looks pretty
hot in this scene. Wow.
Iconic. Iconic.
Also, he looks really tall.
Yeah, he's tall. Yeah. Like, that's
a long body. He's got a long
body. Six foot four
inches of it.
And so he sets up the camera he's gonna film it for her but he goes
through and comes out the other side and the baboon runs and jumps into his arms
oh because he's so relieved yeah immediately forgotten that he flipped his friend inside out
yeah that doesn't. I think he
does apologize to him when he's drunk. He's like, I know
that I'm sorry about your brother,
but it wasn't for nothing. Oh, brother!
Yeah. Not friends. Family.
Family.
Oh, and also we saw that the
fly flew into the teleporter
when he went through. Oh, no.
Oh, no.
So. Feels pretty crazy reporter when he went through it. Oh no. So
feels pretty
crazy to have your
huge scientific
like magnum opus
in the same space that you live and cook
steak and drink and have
a baboon. Like I feel like. It should be
in a sterile environment. This should be unbelievably
well maintained. Yeah.
Also, well, he should also have like at least
one other person there when he does this.
Well, he's got a baboon.
You're right. Baboons are people too.
Assistant baboon.
Okay.
Here we go. Veronica
comes back. He calls her Ronnie, by the way, which just
makes me think of Riverdale.
And
he's like basically like, staff is your ex I got jealous
I'm sorry and she's like yeah but I don't I like don't want to be with him anymore and he's relieved
they kiss and he tells her I went through the thing but I taped it for you I'm sorry I was kind
of I was drunk I was upset and And she's like, that's okay.
And they are hugging.
His shirt is off.
And we see that the cut in his back from laying on the chip has kind of thick black hairs growing out of it.
Kind of like as thick as wire.
They fall asleep.
And a fly is buzzing around his face while he's sleeping and from a sleep
his hand just shoots up grabs the fly and he like wakes him up and he wakes up and opens his hand
and sees the fly in it just caught a fly in his sleep no No big deal. Wakes up in the morning and he starts doing basically Olympic level gymnastics.
He kind of realizes he is feeling really good and really strong.
Ronnie wakes up to him basically doing handstands balanced on a chair.
And then there's like an exposed pipe that he's using as a kind of
bar to flip on he he flips on it and like runs on the ceiling he's doing crazy he is uh
something's up but she's at this point ronnie's just like wow my boyfriend is really hot
i'm so strong she's still just like
really hot like so i'm so strong she's still just like not suspicious not suspicious yet uh they go to get breakfast and he starts putting so much sugar in his coffee coffee spoon after
spoon after spoon after spoon of sugar and she kind of makes a comment like do you ever take
coffee with your sugar and it's like huh what And like, just doesn't even notice it.
Keeps talking.
He's talking a hundred miles an hour as if he is coked out of his mind.
He's like, this is the beginning of that.
This is my unlocking my potential.
And he says like, actually, you know what?
I am going to have a Danish waiter, waiter.
And like, this is going to be so great.
Waiter.
Jesus Christ.
Fucking waiter.
Like he's getting like really irritable and crazy.
And she's now kind of leaning back like okay something is a little different about him
and uh but they they go back home and they have sex and she said it's like we come to
it at the end and she's like she's like i don't know if i can go anymore i don't know how you've
been doing this for so many hours like they've just
been having sex for hours and hours and
she's like tapping out
um and
we see that he has kind
of a rash on his face now
um like some red
spots and
she
feels the hairs from his
back and points them out and he isn't doesn't seem to bother
by him he's like oh i don't know what that is like who cares she takes scissors and cuts them off
and um he at this point is saying to her ronnie i want you to go through it too i feel amazing i
feel the best i've ever felt if you go through, we'll be like a super couple. We'll be a power couple. We'll be the
dynamic duo. Like we're going to be so good. And he starts kind of like dragging her towards the
teleporter, like your turn, your turn, you're going to do it. And she's like, I don't want,
I don't want to do it. Don't I'm like, I'm not going to go through it. I'm scared. I don't want
to do it. And he just immediately snaps her and says, well're a fucking drag aren't you like if you're not
going to do it if you're too chicken shit to
do it I'll find someone who is I'll find someone who can
keep up with me and he
kicks her out and
she's very upset and is but again
like okay something something is
happening and
he heads out and goes
to a bar to try to find
a lady to send through the border to be the other half of his dynamic duo.
And he finds a lady and starts flirting with her.
She is there with another guy who is in an arm wrestling tournament.
And she's like, well, that's like my boyfriend he's a big dude and
uh seth is like very cocky and is like oh like can i get next in the tournament i got 100 bucks
i can beat either of you and uh the big guy that she came with is like immediately uh like
annoyed by him and is like yeah fuck it let's do it i'm gonna teach you a
lesson and so they sit down to arm wrestle and seth is very strong and this guy's sweating and
sweating and their arms are just not moving they're both in the middle like neither going either direction until snap his bone the other guy's bone pops out
of his wrist and his whole forearm snaps in half and it just starts like pouring blood and he's
screaming and seth just like puts his arm around the girl and is like let's get out of here like i
won and like the girl is seemingly unfazed by this she's like oh wow
he's so strong what are you a bodybuilder or something like no ma'am what just happened was
not something that is supposed to make you want to go home with this man that is not correct women
are not behaving correctly in this. Men are.
The men are all fine.
Oh, is arm wrestling like more of a thing in the 80s and the 90s?
I feel like as a kid, like arm wrestling came up all the time. But it's like as an adult, I haven't heard about arm wrestling in years.
I feel like everything in the real world was a bigger thing in the 80s and 90s.
Now everything is.
That's a good point.
Good point. There's probably an arm wrestling app you're right or you can arm wrestle your friends digitally yeah
um so he takes the girl back to his place and he shows her the teleporter.
He goes through it again to basically be like, see, it works.
It's cool.
And no big deal here.
We see the cut on his back now that it's grown more hairs back and it's like pussing.
It has like yellow pus coming out of it.
And they have sex. has like yellow pus coming out of it and they
have sex and
after they have sex
he is pressuring her to go
through the
telepod and she says
I don't want to
and she
says how about a nice alcohol
rub instead and starts pouring alcohol
on his back do you guys have has anybody ever had nice alcohol rub instead and starts pouring alcohol on his back?
Do you guys have has anybody ever had an alcohol rub?
That's not a thing.
That's not a thing.
That's definitely not a thing.
Just a way to get alcohol onto the cut on his back, I guess, because then he gets annoyed and he's like, oh, that hurts.
Like, don't do that.
And so he gets annoyed with her and like grabs her by the wrist.
And it's like you're going through the thing.
You're going through the thing.
Starts dragging her to the telepod and uh as he gets out there ronnie walks in and well the girl was saying like i'm afraid i'm afraid he's saying don't be afraid
ronnie walks in and says be afraid be very afraid and the girl's like, who's this now? And Seth makes some like
shitty comment. And the girl's like, OK, I'm out of here. This is see you later. And she leaves.
And Ronnie says to Seth, you look bad. You smell bad. Something is is wrong like something happened when you went through the telepod something is
up something is not right
let's see here
we're worried about this
we're worried about this phase now so he's getting
a little that's not good get a little blistery
on the face he's got
hairs kind of poking out of his face
as well now too
um she says I took the hairs from your back to a lab
and had them analyzed and he says like that's a pretty weird thing to do I
don't know I've really made me laugh really overreacting that's a pretty
fucking thing to do she says not as weird as what the results showed me the hairs are not human they're insect and he's yelling
at her more he's saying i'm free and you can't stand it you'll do anything to bring me down does
this look like a sick man to you and he starts punching holes in the wall and like punching
through banisters and again kicks her out i don't need you anymore get out of here you're just trying to bring me
down and so now he's by himself and he goes to the bathroom and is looking at himself in the
mirror he sees the blisters on his face hairs on his face and uh starts looking down at his
fingernails and oh god one of his fingernails just basically pops right off oh gross and then he's like
squeezing it and like pus shoots out of it hits the mirror and it's so gross and then he looks
and like peels another fingernail off and now his fingernails are just coming off and he's looking
horrified now and he sits like on the back down on fingernails are just coming off and he's looking horrified now.
And he sits like on the back down on the bathtub edge of the bathtub and he's like, OK, yes, she's right.
Something is wrong.
This isn't normal.
Yep.
He goes to the telepods, types into the little control panel.
Give me the details of the teleportation.
What happened when i went through and it pulls up
primary subject seth brundle secondary subject unknown and he's like secondary subject what is
secondary subject and kind of goes do do do do it like zooms in we get it pull goes in and in and in until we see that it is a fly.
And he said he types in it's like you type in a question and the computer types back an answer situation. He types in what happened to fly and the computer answers fusion.
And he types in assimilation question mark.
types in assimilation question mark brundle absorbed the fly
and computer
writes back negative fusion
of brundle and fly at a molecular
genetic level
oh boy
yikes
oh boy and he looks very horrified
by this news and it
fades to black and some time has
passed maybe he should have done more than one
test on one baboon.
Yeah. Also, I love
that he hadn't looked this up until
now. He's like, doesn't need to see
the results of the test
on his self.
Yeah, he felt great. He felt so good.
Ronnie does say that to him. She says, like, I can't believe
you didn't, like,
do more tests on the baboon.
Like, this is crazy. Too late for all that now um so
ronnie gets a phone call from him basically says like i haven't heard from you in four weeks what
where have you been and he says i've been afraid for you to see me and now i'm afraid for you to
not see me and so please can you come over?
Oh, no.
Oh, Sammy, what are you going to pull up?
Oh, this is going to be so dark and sad.
Okay, so...
Yeah, we're looking about like this now.
And so she...
Whoa.
He looks...
Yeah, what is he? He does not look like a
fly yet. He looks like a
werewolf or something. He looks like he's in the
Thriller music video. He does
look like he's in the Thriller music video.
Yeah. So she comes over
and he basically says, you were right.
There was a fly in the
in the telepod. I don't know
what's happening. It's giving me like some
strange form of novel form of cancer. I don't know it's happening it's giving me like some strange form of novel form
of cancer i don't know what's going on um he's got a twitch now and he's walking strangely he's
kind of about he's like leaned forward at like a 45 degree angle and using canes on his hands
ah scary he's wearing gloves because all of his fingers are all
fucked up. Oh, God.
And
he, she is
crying and she says,
there must be something we can do. We need to get you to a hospital.
Like, maybe they can do something. And he's like,
no, like, I'm not going to go to
a hospital and be some test subject
and, like, have everyone
just, like, poking and prodding me and
humiliating me
um and
he goes
and grabs
a donut he has things like
all over the kitchen table the place is like a mess
and he grabs a
donut and throws up onto
it just without warning
here we go see me a donut and throws up onto it just without warning.
Here we go.
Simi, no.
Simi, I do not like this new thing of showing us these images.
Okay, I'll go back to this one.
It was just for a second.
Just for a second.
He throws up on it.
She's horrified.
It's like, what the fuck?
And he's like, oh yeah, sorry.
I like, that's gross.
I forgot that that's a gross thing that you shouldn't see and she says well why did you call me if you don't want help like if you don't want to go to a doctor why call me and
then his ear falls off and puss is like coming out of his ear. And he says, no, not my ear, not my ear.
And he says to her, I called you because I'm scared.
I'm scared.
Like, please just be with me.
And she like holds him and they're like crying together.
And.
Oh, that's so sad.
Jesus.
It's so sad jesus very sad and then she goes to back to the publishing house to stathis
is basically asking him for help for some reason and she needs more friends yeah i was like we need
to introduce another character into this movie but she goes to stathis and says, you know, things are really bad.
If you could see how much he is in pain,
how desperate he is.
And Stathis says,
well,
why don't you show me?
Why don't you tape him?
And so she goes back and as she gets back to his house,
she's calling out his name,
Seth,
Seth doesn't see him.
And he's like up here and he is walking around on the ceiling.
His hands and feet now stick to the walls and the ceiling.
And he seems like he's in better spirits now.
He's like, I think like I'm changing.
I'm changing into something else.
And like, look at this.
Look at this.
There's a part where he like lifts up his shirt and he's got like a nasty a nasty thing on his stomach he's like what's this i don't know and honestly there's
no better casting than jeff goldblum yeah yeah what's this i don't know and then he says this
is a disease with a purpose and i'm i'm not becoming a fly i'm becoming a new thing i'm becoming
something that never has been before i'm becoming brundle fly and he says you you have to chronicle
this they get out the video camera she starts taping him he does a demonstration of how he eats basically says
you know i still have teeth but i can't um eat solid food because flies can't digest solid food
so i have to vomit a corrosive enzyme onto the food and then slurp it back up and so it cuts to then i hate that say we don't fucking dare yeah yeah in the past couple
of podcasts you've had to use the word slur it was squelch last time no you use slurp and audition
slurp happened somewhere slurp definitely happened in audition multiple times yes the vomit oh it did
oh no this is a similar situation both are
slurping
okay
so no visuals
no that vomiting one was the only one
I had okay thank you and
it cuts to Stathis's
reaction as he's watching this tape
playback and it doesn't show him
slurping the vomit up but we just hear the
sound effects of the like
and as they're watching this
Ronnie starts sobbing
and Stathis is like what's wrong
and I'm thinking what the fuck do you
think is wrong
but
she says I'm pregnant
and
oh I'm so. And. Oh.
I'm so sorry, Henley.
I did not know there was a pregnancy in this movie.
God, that's fucking everywhere.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, no.
And it happened after he.
I mean, they had sex before and after.
So there's no way to know.
It could be.
It could be fine. And it could be not fine at
all fly baby yeah i'll fly baby no so we cut to a clinic of her going to get an abortion and the
doctor you gotta do that there's like a few doctors in scrubs around her the doctor there's like a few doctors
in scrubs around her the doctor
it's a cameo by David Cronenberg
himself and
they're like in an operating room
there's blood and he's like
he's like there's more there's more
in there there's so much more
and so they're like push push
we need you to get this out
she's screaming holy shit
she's screaming she's shit. She's screaming.
She's scared.
And she's like, no, no, wait.
Like, I don't like this.
And out of her comes a two foot long, like, larva thing wriggling around.
Oh, my God.
And then she wakes up and it was a it was a nightmare.
It was a dream.
Thank God.
But thank God. So she is still pregnant. The pregnancy was not a. It was a dream. Thank God. But
so she is still pregnant. The pregnancy
was not a dream, but just that
that was a dream.
Then we see Seth back in his lab
typing into the computer
that he has a plan of
how to reduce
the percentage of fly in him
by fusing with another
human.
We don't like this plan.
And as he's talking to his computer, it stops recognizing his voice.
He is changing so much that his voice is different.
So he just changes it to like manual whatever passwords.
And as he does that, he puts his pencil in his mouth so that he can type and all of his teeth just
start falling out with the pencil in his
mouth onto the keyboard
he scoops up all of his teeth
oh my god
no and
goes to his
bathroom and
there he like opens
the bathroom mirror and
there's just all of his body
parts that have fallen off him his ear
like a bowl of all of his
fingernails and he's kind of like
he's got he's like twitch now he's twitching and he's like
he's like the
museum of brundle artifacts
the museum of past brundle artifacts
and twitching
gross Ronnie comes in crying and she's
like basically like i came i have to tell you i have to tell you he kind of cuts her off
and is like he's like oh you you've missed a lot of crazy stuff and it's like i have like all my
body parts in there and she's just so horrified, but
she like can't bring herself to tell him.
And he gives a good speech here where he says, have you heard of, of insect politics?
And she's like, no.
And he's like, me neither.
It doesn't exist.
Like, I'm going to be the first insect politician.
And it's like, because insects don't have politics insects are are they don't
have compassion they don't do anything their their only goal is survival and like i'll be the first
insect politician says i'm an insect who dreamed he was a man but now the dream is over and the
insect is awake and he's just he's he's losing it he's becoming he's becoming more insect than man is
what he's saying and ronnie's crying and says i don't understand what are you saying and he says
i'm saying if you stay i'll hurt you and she cries and she leaves and she runs outside stathis is
outside waiting in the car and she says I couldn't tell him
I couldn't tell him
if you could see what he's become
like we need to do the abortion now
we need to do it tonight and
he's like it's the middle of the night and she's
like screaming she's like I don't fucking care
we're doing it like right
now right now and
so they get in the car and
the camera pans up and we see that Seth is like on the roof of the building and had been listening to all of this and has a look of look of recognition that he has an unborn child.
So we go to the doctor's office in the middle of the night.
to the doctor's office in the middle of the night uh the gynecologist is basically saying you know there are tests we can do if you think the baby's going to be deformed ronnie says i don't want
tests like i just want the abortion i want it now and um they're like okay uh and they take her into
the uh like the doctor's office or the room and give her hand her a gown
and the gynecologist says slip into that and we'll be on our way in no time which i just thought was
a really crazy line for someone to say when you're about to give someone an abortion i don't think
that's ever been said before we'll be on our way in no time this just slip into this nice little thing just oh my god so they leave her in the um
the room alone and as she is in there seth jumps through the window the glass window shattering it
picks her up and like jumps out with her oh jesus christ runs in after hearing this and inexplicably like punches the glass window
that's left over and then like looks at his hand like ah it's a really weird moment but really made
me laugh uh we see seth and ronnie talking on the roof of his place on like the roof of the
warehouse that he lives in and his lab is in.
And he's saying, like, please don't kill the baby.
Please don't kill a baby.
It might be all that's left of the real me.
And she's crying and she says, like, I'm sorry, but I can't do it.
I'm too I'm too scared.
This is what he looks like now, by the way.
That's terrifying.
He looks like something out of like Mordor or something.
I don't know.
It's not a good, not a good look.
That's horrifying.
And she's crying and, yeah, again, saying like, I can't, I can't do it. I'm can't I can't do it I'm sorry I can't do it and he says oh that's
that's a shame and we see Stathis arrive downstairs in his built in the building
with a shotgun and he's running upstairs he goes in he's looking around and he see he looks at the control
panel of the computer and we see that it has this text up that says that says um transmitter one
subject a transmitter two subject b and he's pulled this like third transmitter out transporter whatever i forgot what it's called now
uh and he's it's like number three will be the receiver of pods one and two telepod one and two
and he's kind of taking this in like this um plan to fuse two people together and as he's looking at this realizing in horror
Seth jumps from the ceiling
and lands on him, knocks him down
hits the shotgun out of his
hand. Seth
Stathis tries to fight
Seth. Seth grabs
Stathis' wrist and just
vomits onto it
and Stathis
is screaming in pain and we see
we just watch his hand disintegrate
melt basically down to
the bone
holy shit and
Stathis starts kind of dipping in and out of
consciousness
and
then Seth
leans down to his
ankle throws up on his ankle.
His, his basically shin deteriorates.
He like pulls his foot off and throws it.
And now Stathis is completely unconscious.
And Ronnie is still up on the roof, but she can look in through one of the skylights and she's like crying and screaming like please please stop please don't do this uh seth jumps up grabs her
brings her down into the place into the apartment and says um basically lays out his plan he's like
here's what's gonna happen i'm gonna go in pod one you're gonna go in pod two and we'll be together
forever you me and the baby a family of three all all as one all together and
like it's gonna be great and she's like no no no please god no obviously and he just grabs her
and throws her in telepod to closes it she is screaming inside of it um banging on the door
oh no no first she first she um she's pushing him
as she's struggling she pushes him away and is pushing against his face and his lower jaw just
falls off and then he has like a full transformation into final final form which is this guy.
He's looking
more fly-y than ever,
but still,
he's a monster fly.
And... Is that really...
Do they put Jeff Goldblum
under all of that? I don't think
this one is. I mean, maybe.
No, no, no.
He would really have to be
I think
there's no way. I think it might be, but his head would be
like in the chest part, not the
head part. Because I think it's like
Oh, right.
I think it does need to be operated
by a person because it's still moving on
two legs.
Gross.
I hate this so much. It's really gross. The transformation
is gross. His legs
at the knees pop and
bend the other way. They start bending
backwards like an insect and
it's really gross.
So he gets her,
grabs her, puts her in
telepod two. He starts
climbing in telepod one, starts queuing up the sequence
and stathis wakes up grabs the gun with his good hand and sees what's happening sees ronnie in the
pod screaming banging against the glass she can't get out and stathis shoots a wire cable thing leading to the pod that ronnie is in basically
disconnecting it from the computer the main computer and we see on the computer screen
it says like telepod 2 um out out or whatever not usable and but the sequence begins and we see um seth uh brundle fly banging
against the glass shatters the glass in his and is kind of able to half step out before
the sequence initiates and he evaporates and we see smoke and stuff in the third telepod something is coming out of there
and we see on the computer screen it says a fusion of brundle fly and telepod complete
and the door there are so many problems with this system he has created this is crazy crazy. Yeah, it's not good. This isn't
teleporting. This is a computer being like,
oh, mix these two things together?
Oh, whatever. Okay, we'll mix them together.
It's like, what is this
science?
Oh, let's see here. Mix them. Just mix them.
Just mix them. Splice them together
at a genetic level.
Oh, Lord.
This guy's stupid. This guy's dumb. He's, Lord. So the door... This guy's stupid.
This guy's dumb.
He's an idiot.
So the door opens
and out climbs
this
half brundle fly,
half just pieces of metal
and he looks kind of like a worm.
It's just a mess like it's just
parts of he's just mushed together in a very very bad way he's groaning and making a horrible noise
clear that he's in pain um ronnie is crying and walks up to him with the,
she has the shotgun,
but he's not much of a threat anymore.
He can't really move.
He's crawling a little bit on his own,
but,
um, and she like raises the shotgun to his head and then breaks down crying and
lowers the shotgun.
And then his nasty little fly hand grabs the barrel of the shotgun and then his nasty little fly hand
grabs the barrel of the shotgun
and presses it against his own head
and he's like groaning
and making a noise and she's crying
and she's like I can't I can't do it
I'm sorry
Ronnie
do it
you see just this sad little fly face being like
ooooh
so sad
and then Ronnie
does it she shoots him
his head explodes
and she just breaks down
sobbing and
that's the end of the movie
that's the end?
no resolution on the
on the pregnancy
yeah where else do you go from there I guess yeah I would like uh resolution on the on the pregnancy yeah where else do you go from there
i guess yeah i would like a resolution on the pregnancy let's just say she gets an abortion
yeah yeah and she's fine yeah she's yeah fly to gina davis's uh larvae explosion maybe there is
a fly too you never know yeah there is a fly too well maybe i never know. Yeah, there is a Fly 2.
Maybe I'll watch it.
Maybe we gotta see it.
Holy shit, that movie is awful.
It's really sad. It's disgusting.
Yeah, it's sad and gross and I hate it.
I hate it.
Did you like it, Sammy?
Yeah, I love it.
I cried in the end.
It's really sad.
I feel like the whole thing I was thinking of as like just, I mean, at first I seen it as a metaphor for drug use and like losing someone, like someone you love becoming someone unrecognizable and kind of like the worst parts of them coming out because of their obsession with
something else at least in the beginning it like feels very much at the beginning of his
transformation and he's kind of um getting cruel and mean to her and choosing this thing over her
and uh but david cronenberg has said he meant meant it as more of a metaphor of just terminal illness in general and losing someone you love, watching someone you love die, basically, slowly, and how horrible that is.
And it is horrible.
It's very sad.
Let me switch back to this.
That's so sad.
That's so sad.
That's so sad.
to this one. That's so sad.
That's so sad.
That's so sad.
I don't even know.
I don't even know. I feel like we've done so many movies recently that have just been
gross.
Or is it just that this one was gross?
It's very gross.
But part of what makes it so good is
how good Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis
are in it. So a retelling
wouldn't do that. Geena Davis is so good is how good Jeff Goldblum and Gina Davis are in it so a retelling wouldn't do
that just because Gina Davis is so good in that final scene I mean I it that's why I cried just
because she is so plays it so believably as someone who is like losing someone they really
devastated it's really sad um but obviously Jeff Goldblum is amazing too too, the way he is in basically everything.
Like his his performance of just like.
His speech patterns are so, so uniquely him and he is just very watchable and he's really, really great in this role.
And so I think that's part of what makes it so good.
And just I think.
As gross as it is
the makeup and special effects
is really impressive
and so yes it's disgusting
but it's also like give this man an Oscar
and they did
and they did
oh I forgot they gave him an Oscar
it's really really good special effects
and makeup
oh wow okay
well that's that's that's cool um yikes
yikes indeed
this is why you don't do a medical experiments on yourself this is exactly why And you have a clean lab.
Yeah. There's reasons for those protocols of things being sterile and tested and tested and there being a team of scientists, not just one man in his apartment.
Yeah.
Oh, my God. Well, Sammy, thank you so much. do you think that we could do a jeff goldblum
oh my gosh that's what i was gonna ask impression he is a very specific person that some people do
really good impressions of him i know i definitely don't how does he talk um and this
it's just a lot of us at a too scary
didn't watch
it's like that
that was good
from all of us here
at a too scary
didn't watch
it's good
oh my god that's what a fly would sound like
goodbye
goodbye
goodbye
goodbye That's what a fly would sound like. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Goodbye.
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