Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE INVITATION

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

This week we are recapping Karyn Kusama's The Invitation, available to stream on Netflix! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus epi...sodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here we are again. Last week of 2020. You gotta love it. You gotta love it. And a thing that we also love is to shout out our patrons. Final patrons of 2020. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Pretty great. And I'm so thrilled that before this year came to a close we got in one more champion for actors rights and that is jake jensen um thank you jake thank you jake we love you jake we love you jake and not just because you are brother to our own joel jensen we would have loved you anyway but we love you even more um and then next up we have our folks that are sailing right on into 2021 oh yes henley yes the vessel heads we just got one this week it is hannah wandersy so welcome Hannah. We are so happy to have you. Thank you so much for supporting us. We love you forever, unconditionally, starting now. Yes. Yes. And welcome to this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Welcome to this episode, everybody. We're so glad you're here. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to too scary didn't watch hi everyone welcome to too scary didn't watch the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves i'm'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. And I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. And
Starting point is 00:01:53 we're missing our dear, dear Sammy. We're missing Sammy. We hate to do it to you again. We hate it. She hates it. She misses you. Our girl's just working so dang hard. She's working so hard and we'll get her back soon. Yeah, she wanted us to tell you guys that she loved you
Starting point is 00:02:14 and she misses you and she can't wait to be back. And we're just going to do it without her, you know? We're going to get through it. Please don't turn it off. Please don't turn it off. Don't turn it off please please um but before we you know before we get into that freaking movie um henley what's up what's up with you well it's the final week of the year um not to be cliche but i am excited for 2020 to be over yes um i've been um on a little break from work which has been really really nice to have some downtime and i actually rediscovered a book that i loved when i was a little kid and i haven't read it in so long um my aunt gave it to my aunt oh god aunt aunt you know it's all the same um
Starting point is 00:03:10 she gave it to me when i was 10 years old and i read it and then and now rereading it's completely different experience um the phantom toll booth have you read wait i haven't but i've heard i have heard of this this is like a famous book from our childhood it's probably older than that isn't it or no yeah it is older than that i'm not sure exactly when it was written um it sounds fun it yes and it is older and um it's by a guy named norton jester and it's about a 10 year old boy who is totally disenchanted with life thinks life is super boring is never entertained by anything imagine feeling that way at 10 you're doomed he's so jaded he doesn't care about anything he thinks everything's meaningless he's kind of like whatever and basically has this magical experience um where he enters a different world and discovers how life is like
Starting point is 00:04:06 amazing and interesting and fun and it's so fun to read as an adult if you guys if anyone hasn't read it or if you read it as a kid you haven't read it in a while i highly recommend revisiting it i'm having such a good time rereading it so fun it's so fun and it works as a kid's book but it really works as a book for adults too and i think it's kind of appropriate after kind of like trying to you know disengage from being in quarantine like quarantine is like it's it makes the world feel kind of flat and boring. And we're not, you know, out there experiencing new things and being excited by things. And this book, like I was like, oh, my God, I'm totally relating to Milo, the main character. It's really fun.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So I highly suggest it. Oh, how fun. I love that. It makes me want to revisit some books I liked as a kid. Aside from Harry Potter, which I revisit far too often. Oh, me too. All the time.
Starting point is 00:05:14 What about you? How was your week? Well, first I want to ask Henley, what's it like being 31? Does it feel different? Yes, I feel so much closer to 40. It's terrifying. It was really nice to get everyone's birthday wishes. It made me so, so, so
Starting point is 00:05:32 happy. That was so nice. You know, birthdays are a little lackluster this year, I gotta say. So it was really fun to get to interact with some people over Instagram. we were wishing me happy birthday it was so nice um being 31 what a drag who cares about being 31 what a lame age
Starting point is 00:05:54 jesus oh boy well if it's any consolation you'll blink and be fucking 32 i know that's how it goes something about being 32 feels better about being 31 though i'm like more into 32 than i am into 30 31 just doesn't even make any sense to me i have no idea what to do with that number you know you could just say you're 32 for two years until you're 33 great idea brilliant done um what about you did you weren't able to be with your family this year as a lot of people yeah i did not travel to see my family for christmas which is you know it's it's very sad and weird in its own way it's my it was my first christmas away from family um as i'm sure is the case for lots of people this year um but i i knew that was going to be the case for a long time so i was able to sort of
Starting point is 00:06:46 you know come to terms with that and grab my head right and you know as wonderful as it is to spend the holidays with family traveling this time of year in an even non-covid time is a fucking nightmare and i live in my parents live in the east coast so it's just always a very long flight and so not having that stress um you know it's replaced by other stresses but that was that was kind of nice it just was a lot quieter and calmer and um really just ate just ate and drank a lot which is all I've been doing anyway but I will say the only thing I want to talk about it's the only thing I've been thinking about is that Joel and I made this lasagna.
Starting point is 00:07:26 What? I haven't heard about a lasagna. Oh, my God. I will send you pictures. So I got Joel a pasta maker for his birthday this year, which is really a gift for me because, as we've talked about on the podcast before, as you know, Emily, I love pasta. She loves spaghetti. So much. God, she loves spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I love it. I love it. So much. God, she loves spaghetti. I love it. I love it. I go crazy for it. So we've been making a ton of pasta. And God, it's so, it tastes so good to eat pasta that is so freshly made. Oh, my God. It's, like, remarkable. But so we made this lasagna.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Mostly Joel made it. And I assisted. lasagna mostly joel made it and i i assisted and it was this like creamy spinach and mushroom lasagna with like a bechamel sauce and it i mean it it will make you fall asleep instantly it was so good and you made and you made the pasta good the best lasagna I've ever had was when we made the pasta. It makes such a big difference. It's crazy. And it's hard to even describe what that difference is without tasting it. It just like, it is so good.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And maybe the least healthy thing that you can make is that kind of lasagna it was insane but already joel and i were like should we make that again this week it has vegetables so good it definitely has vegetables in it so it's that's that is yeah um but wow it is like the vegetables each have cream and it's just like a heavy wait so did you get him a pasta maker like the kind do you mean just like the crank that you put on your counter or do you mean like an action okay so because they're not like an electric thing right because they also make those the electric ones no we i feel like if you're gonna i'm sure that that's amazing and if we were like busier and not fucking at home all the time that'd probably
Starting point is 00:09:21 be the better move but there's something about like we the process of it is so fun like i love it it's really cool definitely takes time but yeah like crank it and then go a little thinner and you crank it again you go a little thinner you and you cut it and then you crank it again and then you if you want if you're making like fettuccine or you can get spaghetti attached to like crank it through those and like pulse cuts it all out and it becomes little spaghetti it's so fucking cool i'm obsessed with it i'm excited for you and this experience with the pasta maker because honestly i think you could get really into making some creative pasta shapes like what if you get into making raviolis yep tortellini ravioli oh my gosh henley you're like you are predicting where i think i we were talking about ravioli. Oh my gosh, Henley, you're like, you are predicting. I think,
Starting point is 00:10:05 we were talking about ravioli, but I honestly think next is going to be tortellini because you get to like, I looked at a thing online, you like make a big square and you put your little filling in one corner and then you roll it all the way down and then like fold it into a little circle and it just looks like so, I'm obsessed with it. It's not too different
Starting point is 00:10:22 from your earring making experience. It just combines two things I love, making weird little things and eating spaghetti. And so what could be better? What could be better? And I know we need to start talking about the movie, but one more thing I want to bring up is the fact that I saw that you made a dress. Can we talk about that for one second? I did make a dress. I did make a dress. I did make a dress. Guys, Emily is like the most crafty, creative person I've ever met in my whole life.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Can you talk a little bit more about this dress? I don't think I ever felt – I think I never thought I could be this person. And Quarantina showed me that I can, which is cool. This, we're never going to get to the movie, but you know what? Whatever. Joel's friends for Christmas every year have had this tradition of everybody buys a gift for themselves. You wrap it.
Starting point is 00:11:15 You come together. And then you open your gift you got yourself in front of everyone and explain why you got that gift. It is truly perfect. That's such a good idea. It is like my favorite thing that anyone does it's wonderful so my gift to myself this year was I was like you know what I'm gonna get back into sewing um and so I got my sewing machine and found a pattern and some fabric
Starting point is 00:11:37 and at one point I was really upset with myself because I was like my gift was work like I gave myself an annoying project um but then I did it and I'm in it was a pain in the ass I will not lie it really was there were moments where I was not pleased with with my decision but then I made a dress and it's so cool to be like this is just a thing that I made and now it looks so good too it looks great thank you are you how are you with using a sewing machine or do you feel like I'm pretty good at it now I have taken a sewing class in like college not at college but like at that time in my life I took a sewing class um and so it there are some things that I don't really know how to do and I will have to to figure those out but following a pattern and having like not anything too crazy, I can do.
Starting point is 00:12:27 But man, you can really get lost in it. There's I mean, it's how all clothes are made that you can make fucking anything if you know how to do it, which I don't. But it's so cool frontier for me. I do. Depending on how much longer we're fucking in this. Like I'm late on the list for vaccines, I think. So maybe I become a person who says things. I don't know. I think you could be. And I'm so impressed by you. And I would love to be list for vaccines, I think. So maybe I become a person who says things. I don't know. I think you could be.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I'm so impressed by you. And I would love to be able to make my own clothes. That would be so cool. That would be so fun. Okay, well, kudos to you. That's fucking cool. Thank you, Henley. Should we talk about this movie?
Starting point is 00:13:01 I guess we should. I guess that is the point, mostly, of this podcast. And so, without further ado, this week's movie is The Invitation. I watched it because we do not have our CME. It is scary,
Starting point is 00:13:18 but I don't think too scary. So we'll see what you think, Henley. But The Invitation, it came out in 2015. It is written by Phil Hay and Matt Manfredi, directed by Karen Kusama, who did Jennifer's Body. Right. Which we've done on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yes. It stars Logan Marshall-Green, Tammy Blanchard. Oh, no. Emeazzi Corinelli. Oh, no. Oh, no. Sorry. Whoa, this is a huge cast it's a huge cast and there definitely was a time when I was watching where I was like
Starting point is 00:14:09 I don't know what anybody's names are right right right but then I sort of got the hang of it also because it's about it's basically this is a movie I watched because I had been meaning to it's like been on Netflix for a while it's the kind of movie every time I see the image come up I'm intrigued and it just sort of
Starting point is 00:14:26 keeps floating in front of me and I was kind of like I but I thought it was like way scary I was very intimidated by it it just like looks like it will be very scary don't get me wrong it definitely is a scary movie but not necessarily in the way that I thought it was going to be
Starting point is 00:14:41 okay but yeah but it is like it's the whole deal is like, it's a dinner party. So that's why there's so many people. Got it. Got it. All the guests. All the guests at a dinner party.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Is it rated? It's rated R, I'm assuming. Is it rated R? What a good question. IMDb says it's not rated, but that doesn't make sense because movies are always rated. Yeah, it's got to be rated, but that doesn't make sense because movies are always rated. Yeah, it's got to be rated. It's got to be rated. It's got to be rated. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:15:11 What's a fucking rated? It has to be rated. This is going to drive me crazy. Wait, I'm going to look it up too. I just literally Google rating. Oh, it's rated R. Okay, yeah. that you know what now now that that makes sense um it's rated r for some disturbing violent content graphic nudity oh hardly um and language but yeah okay that makes sense graphic nudity my god you see like one person naked one time who cares um you know that's kind of a fun thing part of me feels like we should start doing that like You see like one person naked one time. Who cares? Okay. You know, that's kind of a fun thing. Part of me feels like we should start doing that, like saying what the rating is and saying why it's rated that way.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's kind of interesting. It is kind of fun. And I didn't know, but now I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome to the final cocktail hour of 2020. I mean, cheers to that. We are having this week the reunion. In a cocktail glass or copper mug, you will stir together two ounces vodka, one ounce pomegranate juice, half an ounce of lime juice, one tablespoon of pomegranate seeds, one teaspoon of honey, and ice. You will top that off with a splash of ginger beer and garnish with
Starting point is 00:16:34 a sprig of fresh rosemary. We've made it through another year. Thankfully, we will be enjoying these drinks in the safety of our own homes and not at the world's worst dinner party. Raise a glass to that and to us. We made it. Cheers. Do we have any trivia on this one? We have some trivia. We have some trivia.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The first is kind of a bummer for them, which is that the budget was $1 million. Not too high. Oh, that's pretty low. And it grossed like $300,000. Yikes. So it did not do great. There aren't really any big
Starting point is 00:17:19 stars in it, which might have been part of the problem in terms of getting people out to watch it uh apparently a casting what if apparently Zachary Quinto Luke Wilson and Topher Grace were originally cast in major roles um interesting and then they all dropped out I guess they all dropped out I don't know why I'm like I would like to learn more about that fact I bet like one of them dropped out and then the others were like, I'm dropping out because the other one dropped out or something like that. That would have definitely, I think, changed how much it made.
Starting point is 00:17:54 100%. So that's a bummer. Wow. Remember Topher Grace? Topher Grace was huge. He was huge. What happened to him? He was huge.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Banzo Banzo. Yeah, I guess i what's up with you tofer i know you're listening um tell us where you're at let us know send us a dm send us a dm the other trivia that i found interesting it's not a ton of trivia this i don't think this was a huge movie to be completely honest um but the the director and writers had complete creative control over the film as it was independently produced without any involvement from major studios oh that also yeah that definitely makes sense also in terms of it not making any money back uh-huh yes studios help help with that because they must make money. I enjoyed this movie.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's weird. It's weird. Okay. But it's beautiful. Like, I think it's beautifully shot. There are, I think the main guy in it, Logan something, what's his name? Logan Marshall Green, is so good at something like this like he just is he kind of looks like tom hardy but he is just like he just like it looks so tortured while doing so little and i just i'm he's very like watchable which i think is honestly the only
Starting point is 00:19:23 job of an actor is to be watchable. It doesn't matter why that's the case. That's your job. Yeah. I like that. That's actually, I think that's 100% true. Because it's like some bad actors, you still are like, I want to watch you, so I don't. It's like, then you're still, like, good for you.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You're still doing it right. People will probably disagree with me on that but that's how I feel I do think what's cool about this movie is it's very like a lot of the vibe of this movie comes from this like moody house and the little like dinner lighting and the Hollywood Hills. So I think watching the trailer would give me – I haven't seen this trailer. So it'll give me a vibe. And you know what? You know what? You know how I feel about lighting. And the fact that we're talking about dinner party lighting, I am down.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You are going to love the lighting in this movie. The lighting is warm. It is... I should have prefaced with that, man. The lighting in this movie, you're going to love it. It's warm. It's very warm. So I think, honestly, you're going to probably love
Starting point is 00:20:35 this trailer. Okay, I'm really excited. Let's watch it. Let's give it a try. Let's give it a try. How this thing is so official. Maybe they're overcompensating. It's kind of hard to call everybody up out of the blue after two years. I'm so glad you're here. We've got a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So much to celebrate tonight. Each and every one of us is on a journey. And we feel that it's important to be on that journey with the people you love Everybody, this is my friend Pruitt Fires on windows and no Security, safer You've been acting so suspicious of our hospitality Cars on windows and no? Security. Safer. You've been acting so suspicious of our hospitality.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Well. Jesus. Has he been like this a lot? So agitated. How has he been handling things? He can be self-destructive. I think he's doing the best he can. Something doesn't feel safe here.
Starting point is 00:22:01 We don't see you for two years and then all of a sudden we get invited to this lavish dinner. Don't tell me that this is normal. What do you think is happening, Will? This beautiful moment is upon us. Tonight is the night our faith is made real. What is happening? there's nothing to be afraid of freaky but beautiful beautiful lighting gorgeous lighting darling what is gorgeous um i hated the crying at the end i hated the crying at the end just the quiet like just crying no thank you and um
Starting point is 00:23:07 that was a real that guy moment that guy I feel like he's in like like I feel like he's in um uh the well I mean I mean like the the one who's also hosting the dinner party
Starting point is 00:23:23 he is in so many things is that michael huzman or what's his name yes he yeah he's in so many things and i've never really known what his name is but he's always like pops up and random things he's in the flight attendant which i've been watching okay um what else has he been in? I feel like he's in just random stuff. So he's in Game of Thrones. And I feel like he's British in Game of Thrones because everyone is, right?
Starting point is 00:23:53 So when he came on screen this morning and he started talking, I was like, oh, is this guy American? And then he said one word so weird. I was like, nope. Not American. No, he's not. Is he British?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Probably. He is, yeah, British and Dutch, and Dutch I think okay that makes sense fascinating wow fascinating okay well spooky I'm excited it's it's tense this trailer does a good job of showing you that this movie is tense um but you don't have to feel tense Henley because you're just gonna listen to me tell you about it so sit back and relax baby sit back and relax baby think of that warm warm lighting and just we'll just take it from there i like that you just called it weird and i would love to know what that means so let's get it i think that it's weird if you're a new parent a bad day means you either ran out of coffee diapers patients or
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Starting point is 00:25:57 without notebooks or number two pencils. Really scary stuff. But luckily I wake up and I realize I don't actually need notebooks or number two pencils anymore. But this fall there is something that I will be using every day and would be terrified to be caught without. And that's Raycon's best-selling everyday earbuds. I've been trying to go on walks every day and so I need earbuds that I can rely on to listen to all my favorite podcasts and I know you guys listen to podcasts as well so you know what I'm talking about. I got my Raycons in carbon black because that's my vibe but they come in other cool colors as well, like forest green and brush violet. But my favorite thing about them is the battery life. They stay charged for 32 hours and they
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Starting point is 00:28:06 Kira is holding, they have an invitation to this dinner party. And it's like printed like a wedding invitation, like very formal. And she's sort of remarking on like, well, this is a very formal thing. We learn that this dinner party is hosted by Will's ex-wife and her new husband or partner. I don't know what their marital status is, but her new person. And he says, yeah, I guess you have to be formal when you disappear for two years and then all of a sudden like reemerge. So no one's really heard from the ex-wife in two years.
Starting point is 00:28:41 She and her new partner, we learn, met in a grief a grief group okay so we're not given any more details about they met i think they met in in will and his ex-wife their shared grief group perhaps so they met while will and the wife were still together will and the wife split up she's now with this guy um did they like lose a kid together or something? We'll find that out. We'll find out, but yes. We'll find that out. We don't know, but yes.
Starting point is 00:29:11 But I mean, they got a divorce. They were in a grief group. All signs point to. Yeah, it's sort of pointing to that. All of a sudden, they hit a coyote with their car. Honestly, realistic. Yeah, it's like dusk, dusk time. So hit a coyote with their car. Honestly realistic. Yeah, it's like dusk, dusk time. So hit a coyote with their car.
Starting point is 00:29:30 They like pull over like, holy shit. He gets out of the car. We hear whimpering and learn that the coyote did not die. So he gets a tire iron out of his trunk and beats the coyote to death we don't really see it but we sort of hear it and it's not good oh no very very and at this point i'm thinking i'm canceling dinner you know um i can't imagine walking into a dinner party after just having murdered an animal oh um like mercy killed a fucking animal you hit with your car but they continue on awful i hate that okay got it um we see them driving up to the house gorgeous house in the hills it looks like remarkably like the house is like right behind
Starting point is 00:30:20 my apartment so i was like i don't love that um but they're up in the hollywood hills this huge gorgeous house i think kira comments on like this is oh she says like you used to live here um it's their their house they used to live in together and he says like her family has a lot of money it was never his as they walk in he there are a lot of like weird sort of flashback-y or like like, superimposed. He's, like, having memories of this house while he's there. And we see a memory of, like, a kid in one of the rooms. So, like, yes, we're getting the impression that they had a kid.
Starting point is 00:30:57 The kid died. And they and their child lived in this house. Okay, that's so sad. They come in. All the other friends are there, they're hugging, they're meeting Kira for the first time, so these are basically Will and Eden is his ex-wife's shared friends.
Starting point is 00:31:12 We get the impression they probably haven't all been together much in the past couple years since whenever this trauma happened. Eden immediately is like in this floor-length white gown, very Manson-y and like very happy and calm. Oh, creepy.
Starting point is 00:31:32 It's like a little unsettling. She walks up to – she's like flirting with Will in a way. Like but it just – their vibe is wild. She comes up to him and like wipes blood off his face like a little speck that had clearly come from the coyote um yeah so like really intimate right away very intimate right away and yes like if i'm the girlfriend i'm sort of like i don't want to this isn't good i like i get it but also like i don't know it's weird um then in comes david david is eden's new guy he's also he's wearing like linen drawstring pants uh and it's just like one of those guys like you know
Starting point is 00:32:17 very like oh hello welcome oh so glad everyone's in his home. Very Los Angeles. He opens a bottle of wine for everyone and they're all like, oh shit, it's an 85 Rothschild, which is apparently a very expensive, cool wine. They're all like, hell yeah. They're very excited by this. The energy is a little weird. No one really knows how to be. But they're
Starting point is 00:32:42 sort of going with the flow. The group of friends, let me see if I can remember all of their names. Okay. So we've got Will is our main character, Will, his girlfriend, Kira. Eden is his ex-wife. David is her new partner. Then we have Gina, their friend, who is there alone. She's waiting on her boyfriend, Choi, who has not arrived yet.
Starting point is 00:33:01 So Gina. Then we have Tommy and Miguel, who are a couple. Claire, who's there on her own and ben is their other friend who's also there alone his wife is home with the kids um so that's that is our group okay got it i'll try to remember but i mean honestly who cares i really only remember will and eden at this point. Those are really the important ones. All right. Got it. And David, who is the new partner.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So they get the wine. I think Will turns it down, but everybody else has their glass of wine. David does a toast to the group. Very like, oh, I'm so glad you're all here. Just one of those fucking toasts where you're like, I hate this guy. Down the hall, Will catches a glimpse of a woman walk out of a room in a T-shirt and nothing else. This is the graphic nudity that earns us an R rating. She's a pants-less woman.
Starting point is 00:33:59 There might be other nudity, but I don't think there is. I really hope there's more nudity than that. Disappointing. I know. She sees her see him and giggles and runs into the room. Comes back out in a dress. She's immediately very bizarre. She's very Mancini to me.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Bubbly and barefoot and bizarre. Her name is Sadie. Then David and Eden introduced that we met Sadie in Mexico. We're helping her out. And we realized that's where they were for the past two years. They, like, went down to Mexico. Will asks if he can walk around the house on his own. He's sort sort of like can I just take a minute and walk through the house Will is
Starting point is 00:34:49 Clearly like A traumatized person They're all sort of tiptoeing around him They're tiptoeing around Eden in a way because she Just seems weird like everyone Sort of notices that she's changed I don't think this is what she was like And Will is just like this
Starting point is 00:35:05 is clearly a very emotional thing for him so they he goes to take a sort of walk around the house in the kitchen he has flashes back to a memory of um eden trying to kill herself and him stopping her oh jesus um then eden walks in to the kitchen in real time. They talk. She says, you know, I just I feel so good now. He tells her she seems different. She's like, I am different. You know, I just realized I was holding on to so much pain. And, you know, I'm free now.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Pain is optional. You don't have to feel it. That's amazing. Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't that be great? Ben walks in, the friend, as she's talking about how great she feels now and using her like cloudy voice. And Ben sort of tells her she sounds nuts.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And she immediately slaps him across the face. It's very abrupt. Whoa. And she immediately slaps him across the face. It's very abrupt. Wow. And she leaves the kitchen. And Ben's like, what the fuck? And he and Will talk. And I don't think this is important. But he and Will are talking, catching up again. It's been a while.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Will asks where Ben's wife is. And he's like, she's home with the kids. And he says you know i think we hate each other um and i was like oh i'm sorry that's actually like yeah but the sex is so angry just like so great it's like he's that's just like i think to give you a deal of like what ben's vibe is he's like that kind of guy. Sure. We get a knock at the door. A man comes in. His name is Pruitt. He is very much that guy.
Starting point is 00:36:54 If you look him up, you'll be like, oh, right, that guy. You see him come on screen and you're like, that guy. That guy. Oh, that guy. Oh, that guy. So Pruitt comes to the door and he's someone they met in Mexico. He's there for the dinner party wearing like a short sleeve button down like bamboo looking shirt. Gina, meanwhile, is like, where is Choi, her boyfriend? She's like, he said he promised to be on time this time.
Starting point is 00:37:19 We're getting the deal that Choi's maybe like, we love Choi, but he's maybe kind of a fuck up. And like, of course, Choi is late. She's like, he swore he was going to be on time. She is like, oh, man, I want to call him. But nobody has service. Nobody has cell reception up there. We're like deep in the hills. And she asks if she can use the house phone.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And Eden's like, oh, no, the landline is down. It's not working. You know, we were in Mexico for so long. We forgot to pay the bill. And, you know, they haven't come to fix it. The landline is down it's not working you know we were in mexico for so long we forgot to pay the bill and you know they haven't come to fix it the landline is down meanwhile we we the audience viewer sees david has taken a phone call from in the house so like on a landline he is somehow able to use the phone. So I'm already like, hmm. I mean, we're getting weird vibes, but that one I'm like, nobody's gonna. He was on the fucking phone. But we can't use the phone. Will is sitting on the
Starting point is 00:38:16 stairs in the main room. It's like a very gorgeous Hollywood Hills, like very 70s layout, open house situation. Will sees David lock the front door from the inside and put the key in his pocket. And Will asks, like clocks in and is like, why did you do that? And he says, oh, you know, there have been some crazy people around, like a house got broken into. And it's just, you know, feels safer up in the hills to do that. And Will says, what if there's a fire?
Starting point is 00:38:55 Clearly, this is more of like just a challenge to David. He does not like David. There's a lot of tension there. But David says like, oh, OK. Takes the key out and like leaves it in the door the lock um but the door is still locked will goes out to get some firewood and hears like sounds of children laughter children's laughter outside in the yard he's clearly not ready to be here. Super not ready to be in this house. But while he's outside in the yard getting the firewood,
Starting point is 00:39:29 he sees through sliding glass doors inside of Eden and David's bedroom. He sees her open a drawer, a top nightstand drawer, sort of furtively. And then we're not sure if she grabs something out of it or puts something in, but that shuts it and sort of wipes her hands and then we're not sure if she grabbed something out of it or put something in but that like shuts it and sort of like wipes her hands a bit metaphorically and and leaves the room she doesn't see him so he immediately goes in that room checks it out okay yep he sees that it's a there are pills in there. So he grabs one of the pills and puts it in his pocket. One of my favorite tropes, by the way, in these horror movies, pills, pills. Love it when pills are involved. You love to see it. You love to see.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I love to see. I love to see a pill. And then he turns around and David is standing in the doorway of the the room so sort of clocked him but he doesn't say anything i think he's like oh we're you know we're about to do something in the living room or like come join us in the living room so he goes out in the meantime he will has another memory of he and eden taking a bath together being like very clearly in love very intimate um their son sort of walks in and it's like a nice moment, a nice memory. So we're just getting little glimpses of their life before whatever happened, happened. How old is the son, do we think? The age old question. Five-ish.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Okay. Young. Young. I would love to hear Sammy's take on how old that son is. So as he's like looking in the bathroom having this memory and then hears a scream from the living room that sort of like snaps him back to reality. He runs out into the living room and the scream was just one of their friends like a like, no, oh my God, like one of those screams. scream was just one of their friends like a like no oh my god like one of those screams because it was just revealed to them that eden and david are in a cult so what it is is um they it's called the invitation this group and you know especially
Starting point is 00:41:42 after on the heels of just seeing fucking what was that thing called on hbo the vow the vow it's one it clearly is one of those it is like you know it is a cult but for the people in it it is um you know it's self-help but there's this one is specifically i think based around dealing with grief and trauma it's what what she was saying about like pain is optional it's like that's that's the deal um but you know the friends who aren't in it they're like oh i've heard of that it's like it's a cult they're like that's what you're doing you were in mexico for two years you're in a fucking cult like they're having fun with it which is like not what you say to a person who's in the cults no it's definitely especially when that reason they're they probably are is
Starting point is 00:42:22 because their son died it's's like, not great. But, you know, David and Eden are talking about it. And David says, you know, it's really a science more than a religion. It's about a way to like process and release grief and attachments and Pruitt. It's exactly the same as the vow. Yeah, right. They kept calling it a science. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It's like, no, it's fucking not. It's mind control. It's a cult. But Pruitt, surprise, surprise, is also a member. That's how they know Pruitt. That's why he is there. And they're like, well, we actually would love, we have this video. We would love to show you all this introduction video.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You're our friends. We want to show you. So they're like okay um they play this video and in the introduction there's this like guru guy uh talking about it and clearly in this like beautiful place in mexico and says it that the the point of it is to rewrite your experiences with trauma it's about like you get to rewrite that narrative moving on to the next life is like it is a good thing when people go there that is that is nice and then the video shows a woman on a bed like dying but essentially while the guru is like sitting next to her and someone else is next to her and like talking her through it i mean like it's okay but but she fully dies this group of
Starting point is 00:43:49 friends at a dinner party watches a video of a woman's final moments and they are how is she how is why is she dying do we like they reveal that it's cancer afterwards like it's like she's you know she's just like in her last moments but like yeah dying and they're all it's a video and or i think one of them was like can we turn this off and everyone is pretty upset um and they're like did we just watch a like did we just watch a woman die is that what we just fucking watch right now and eden and david are like oh we're sorry we didn't mean to upset you that you know that wasn't that's not the point it's supposed to be beautiful um we're just trying to show you
Starting point is 00:44:29 there's nothing to be afraid of you know that's that's the point um Aiden starts crying um and just being like you know I'm just like we just wanted to share this with you I it's so important for for me to show you how, like, how okay I am. You know, like, I'm okay now. I feel great. And it's like, girl, no, you don't. At which point Will starts crying. He's getting really overwhelmed because he's watching his wife fucking lose it.
Starting point is 00:44:58 He's clearly not okay. It's just an all-around terrible situation. it's just an all-around terrible situation. I think Claire then, like, brings him out of the room. One of his friends brings him out of the room and is like, are you okay? This is really intense. I know this is really weird.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Actually, I think it's Gina. Again, it doesn't matter. I know this is really weird, but, you know, we love you. We just, we really love you. It's so good to see you. I know we, but, you know, we love you. We just, we really love you. It's so good to see you. I know we weren't, you know. Basically, he gets all these moments sort of one by one with each friend being like, it's really great to have you back.
Starting point is 00:45:34 We've missed you. I know this is strange. It's nice for us all to be together. Basically, I think trying to justify for us, the viewer, like, why the fuck is he still there like if there are so many times in this night where i'm like yeah this night is done this night is done it's not getting better um everybody needs to fucking call it this did not work um but will then shows um he's sitting with another of his friends comes out to to how he's doing. I think it's Tommy who I guess is a doctor.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And he shows Tommy the pill that he had taken from Eden's room and is like what is this? And he says it's a barbiturate how do you say it? Barbiturate? Yeah. Barbiturate I think. Barbiturate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And he's like Eden is taking these pills. Like, what the fuck? And those are just sedatives, right? I think those are, like, just pretty intense sedatives. I think they're, like, illegal now. Yeah, he was like, people don't, like, use these anymore. So she probably got them in her cult group or whatever, somehow. Somewhere in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Under the fucking table. And so, yeah, also, like, she's not actually happy. cult group or whatever somehow somewhere in mexico table um and so yeah also like she's not actually happy she's just numbing herself um 100 yeah uh they you know they all go back into the living room sort of calm down from this video um david offers everyone another round of drinks. At this point, Will finally does take one. And David says, let's play an honesty game. No. This is a game. No.
Starting point is 00:47:14 This is a game we played in Mexico. And basically how you play the game is you just say a thing that you – I think it's you say something that is true, or you say something that you want. I don't really know the rules of the game, but it's an honesty game. Sadie goes first. Sadie is our little weird cult girl.
Starting point is 00:47:37 She's like, I'll go first. I want to say my truth is that I love all of you. Okay. want to say my my truth is that i love all of you okay then she goes and kisses gina and just like makes out with her um and gina's like whoa okay it's a party we're having a party now uh and we learned at one point that david used to do he like went on a bender in his grief and like did a lot of coke. So Gina's like, all right. Wait, you mean Will or David? Oh, I guess David. David, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Because he was also in the grief group. And we don't know what his thing was, but yes, he was also in the grief group. But so Gina's like, all right, fine. I'll go next. My truth is I would love some of that coke that you were talking about. And then they all like laugh and she's like, no, no, no, I'm just kidding. And David goes, no, you weren't. You're being honest. You want some. So have some. So he still has some. And tosses her a bag of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And she's like, fuck, okay. Works for me. Pruitt goes next. Pruitt is that guy who's from the the cult and he talks about he's like
Starting point is 00:48:51 my truth is I really I really miss my wife you know she I remember the day that I met her goes on this whole long
Starting point is 00:49:00 really romantic story I remember the day that I met her I loved her instantly she's the most beautiful woman i ever saw she was perfect loved everything about her um one night though we we were drinking and we got just got into an argument about something stupid and uh i just i And I just, I got worked up and I hit her. She hit the ground.
Starting point is 00:49:28 She never got up again. What? What the fuck? And then, you know, I went to prison and I paid for what I did. And then the invitation, you know, it really, it saved me. It released me from my guilt. It cured me of my anger. And I know that I'll see her again and it'll be great and she'll be happy to see me and she she won't have any anger and all of them are like what the fuck um will starts getting like really emotional again
Starting point is 00:50:03 talking about you know people you'll see on the other side, thinking about his fucking son. Everyone is very freaked out that this man just admitted to beating his wife to death, essentially. And Eden's like, I'll go next. And says, my truth is, I've always really I've always really wanted to kiss Ben. And so then she goes up to Ben and kisses Ben and he's like ah nobody tell my wife haha um and then at this point Claire uh one of the friends who I forgot to mention earlier had like pulled Will aside and was one of the people but like we really missed you and how are you doing I'm sorry I wasn't like there for you seems lovely and normal
Starting point is 00:50:45 she's like I want to go I'm going to leave this is not I like it's nice to see you all I'm not going to do this this night David tries to stop her he's like no no no Claire you should stay you don't have to play that game if you're uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:51:01 and Will's like just let her fucking leave like it's the first time that he actually confronts david and it's like she wants to go let her fucking go and david's like okay fine yeah she she can leave um as she goes to uh to get up and go pruitt's like oh are you in the whatever? Probably Prius. I'm parked behind you. So he gets up and leaves like with her. And Will says to her, do you want me to walk you to your car? And she's like, no, I'm like literally I'm right there. So Claire and Pruitt leave.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Will stands at the window and is like watching them both go go out to their cars. You know, backs up up lets her out and then as she's like driving down the street sort of just out of our view Pruitt goes oh wait clear wait up I wanted to tell you something and like walks up to her car and we know it can no longer see them in this moment David comes up behind Will and he's like, hey, Will, can we talk? So Will goes and talks with him. And he's like, I, you know, I know you're going through, you've been through a lot of hard stuff. But, like, I feel like you've been really weird to me this whole dinner. Like, you don't trust me.
Starting point is 00:52:24 You asked me about the locked door. You're standing at the window watching my dinner like you don't trust me you asked me about the locked door you're you're standing at the window watching my friend like you don't trust him um you know and i i know you know we've been through the same thing you know i i we can connect and will's basically like hey man you don't fucking know me no no thank you um Thank you. But then it's time for dinner. We sit at the dinner table. And as we're having dinner, oh, the sound in this part is so good. We just start to hear like clinking of dishes and forks. All of that gets really loud and everything else gets really quiet.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It's just like very jarring and unnerving. Will starts flashing. I know exactly what you're talking about. Oh, it's bad. Will starts flashing to a memory of his son's. I think it was his son's fifth birthday. So five years old. And at this party, it's the same old group.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They're all in the backyard. And at the party, in the memory and we at the party in the memory we hear someone scream even scream they all run to this kid so he's remembering his son dying um we still don't really know why or how um at his birthday party and uh will in real time starts having sort of like a fucking panic attack and goes outside um gets up and goes outside sadie comes outside um he's been out there a little bit i guess she comes outside and sits next to him um and it's like things don't things don't seem good with with your girlfriend like i don't think that things don't seem good with your girlfriend. Like, I don't think that you don't seem happy.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And he's like, you don't know me. What the fuck is your deal? She's like, you can fuck me if you want. You can fuck me right here. He's like, no, get out of here. Like, it sort of means like, go inside. And just sort of reconfirming that this woman is strange. So then one of Will's friends, again, I don't know which one.
Starting point is 00:54:33 One of the friends. One of them. Tommy. One of them. It's Tommy. Okay. Tommy then comes outside to where Will is, and Will's like, something here doesn't feel right. This night doesn't feel right. This night doesn't feel right.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I think something is seriously wrong. What the fuck is up? What is up with these people? What was that video? Like what is happening? And the thing he keeps saying is like where is Choi? Why isn't he here? And Tommy's like hey man I know this is really hard for you.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yes they're definitely weird but like you're letting this is really hard for you. Yes, they're definitely weird. But, like, you're letting your mind run away with you. Let's just get through tonight. Like, you know, we're almost fucking done. We'll just get through the night. You're going to be fine. Everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Oh, my God. Okay. So Tommy goes back inside. Before Will goes back inside, he has, like, a moment where he, like, reception pops up on his phone. And he sees he has a voicemail from choi he listens to the voicemail and it's from choi and he's like hey man i just got here at the house um i'm wondering if you're here it's just something i don't remember exactly what he says but the voicemail is essentially like i I'm at the house. And this is before the dinner party started.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Oh, no. Oh, no. So Will immediately goes back into the dinner table. All the lights go out. And then Eden and David walk up the stairs with a cake with lit candles for Miguel's birthday. It was Miguel's birthday last week. They sing happy birthday to Miguel. Put the cake down. He blows the candles out.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And then Will is immediately like, where the fuck is Troy? He stands up and he's like, what is this? What's wrong? He's losing it. What's wrong with you guys? Why is everybody being so fucking polite? And he says, oh, it's so devastating. He was like, it meant something when our son died.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Don't try to erase that. so devastating he was like it meant something when our son died don't try to erase that um and kira gets up and is like we need to leave like we're gonna leave uh he's sorry that like we're gonna go home now this is not good uh sorry everyone and will's like where the fuck is joy i'm not leaving what's going on what is this joy was the first one here like where is he and gina's like is that true eden what's going on and eden and dave are like we have not seen choy tonight i don't know what he's talking about i promise we have not seen him he's like why did he tell me he was here at fucking seven o'clock what did you do to him oh jesus and the doorbell rings and it's joy okay and joy comes in and is like oh god i'm sorry i was here and then i got a fucking call from work and i had to go back and uh and so everyone is like you, it's really fucking awkward now.
Starting point is 00:57:26 He basically accused him of murdering their friend and here he is. Um, and Will starts to sob and, and, uh, leaves the room. Um, he has like a memory of, he goes into the bathroom. He has a memory of like teaching his son to wash his hands. All of these memories are just like very sweet little moments. So now, you know, this movie does such a good job of yes, this is weird. Yes, these people are freaky. It feels like something's up.
Starting point is 00:57:57 But also, are we just living inside Will's brain where he's it's his grief and the fact that that they're processing it in a way that is not helpful for him. So he goes back outside. Kira, his girlfriend, comes out to talk to him. He says, you know, I should have been watching the kids more carefully that day and she's like it's not your fault like you know and he says something to the effect of i shouldn't have given them those bats it starts to feel like a one kid at the party killed his son with a bat jesus christ that's what i think it is what yeah um whoa he says to kira i mean like i've wanted to die ever since that day like he's not doing as well as it maybe has seemed like he's doing.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Don't blame you. I don't blame you. How do you recover from something like that? And Kira, I think, says, like, you know, again, like, let's go. This, like, you know, we don't need to be here. And he says something to her to the effect of, like, look, you're great. her to the effect of like look you're great um but you you know uh i'm like not a good time for me to be in a relationship pretty much um and she gets up and i at this point i'm like okay she's leaving which at this point i'm like yeah honey you you leave i mean i guess they drove together
Starting point is 00:59:38 but um nope turns out she just got up and went back inside. She's like, you know what, I'll just go back to this dinner party. I'll just go back to this dinner party with these people. These strangers. Will comes back inside as they are cutting Miguel's birthday cake. And he asks if he can see their son's room. They say, of course. He goes in.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It's, you know, it's no longer a child's bedroom. They've turned it into an office. But he sits on the floor and just sort of sits in that room. Out the window from that room, it looks out into the big backyard. And he sees David go to the edge of the yard and light a lantern that's in the edge of the yard. And it's bright red. It's just like this red lantern he looks at him doing that and it's like thinks it's a little strange so he then starts to look around this room it's it's now an office um and opens the laptop on the table and sees on the desktop of the laptop a video from that cult leader guy. And the video is this man talking direct to camera saying, you know, what you're doing is
Starting point is 01:01:03 the right thing. This is what we all are called to do. Um, it will be better once you do this. You will, you know, things are, we'll, we'll see each other again on the other side. Um, we get the impression that this guy is, he took this video before he died. And, uh, this video is, is urging all who watch it, whether it's just for them personally or not, to do something, and that then they will join him on the other side. So it's like a Heaven's Gate situation.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Seems like it. Yeah. We hear Pruitt, he shuts the laptop, Pruitt goes like, hey, everybody, come on, let's share a drink, calls everybody out, back to the dinner table Will goes out um David pours them all a glass of wine or they he like has this big decanter and is pouring them glasses of wine they're passing him down the table he uh goes to to do a toast David David raises his glass like, let's raise a glass. They go to start to drink it. Gina drinks her wine and then immediately
Starting point is 01:02:11 Will starts slamming the glasses out of every, like knocking them out of her hands. They're crashing. Wine glasses are breaking. Everybody's like, no, no, no! Don't drink it! Sadie starts freaking out and goes, you ruined it. Oh, my God. She lunges at Will. He pushes her out of the way. She falls, hits her head, and starts bleeding.
Starting point is 01:02:38 She's, like, knocked out. So everyone is like, Will, what the fuck? Because he already just had this freak out that was clearly nothing. They're like the fuck they all go down to say on the ground like say are you okay and she's not coming to you she's bleeding they're all freaking out about that like we have to call an ambulance and then behind us joy goes gina gina gina what's going on g Gina is foaming at the mouth. Oh no. Oh no. She's the only one who had a sip of her wine and she is foaming at the mouth and just dies like instantly. Instantly.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Holy shit. So then. Holy shit. They all start freaking out and they're like it's this movie is so calm and just like weird and like you're like going in and out of rooms and little snips of conversation and then this shit happens and it is fucking chaos until the end of the movie so they all start freaking out and they're like what the fuck sadie is already freaked out uh i it's hard to recall where everybody even is at this moment but they all start to be like oh fuck we got to get out of here they start checking
Starting point is 01:03:51 doors every door is locked from the inside of course of course of course then david pulls out a gun and shoots miguel what miguel dies then this is really cool all the sound goes out so then it's just all this chaos and there's we're not hearing anything Pruitt takes a gun out shoots and kills Choi what sound comes back up Sadie comes to and starts attacking people with a fucking butcher knife what will and kira run out of the room um they they escaped just i think he's like this room we can get out of here they're like go into this room they can see all these uh there's like a huge backyard and all the rooms that lead that like lead out to it have like sliding glass doors so they end up in a room that essentially is like turn i think turned into just storage it's a bunch of cardboard boxes and stuff sort of blocking the door but they see out
Starting point is 01:04:49 of the sliding glass door pruitt and david outside the backyard dragging ben out and then killing him oh my god will and cure are trying to get out they can't get out that way will is like okay we can get out through like the upstairs garage i there's a there's a garage up there i we can get out so they're you know because this used to be his house thankfully he knows what the deal is so they're sort of sneaking through they see david and eden talking in the kitchen even is like sitting on the ground like shaking freaking out and david's like consoling her's like, we have to do this. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:05:27 We were chosen. We are chosen for this. This is the only way we can leave the pain behind. We have to do this. Like, we've already started. And she's sort of like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if we should do this.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And she seems really drugged out. They sneak past. Will and Kira manage to get to the upstairs garage. As they pass the couch, they see Sadie sitting on the couch dying. Somebody stabbed her a bunch of times, I think. They walk. Oh, she's holding a fire poker in her hand, too. Will walks up to her and grabs the fire poker out of her hand and just takes it. They go upstairs, and they see that the door he learned
Starting point is 01:06:07 that the door that was there is gone they have like plastered over it and turned it into just like a sealed off room no we hear Pruitt coming up the stairs uh he has a gun they hide in the corner and Pruitt like walks in he's looking around the room trying to find them with his gun Will comes out of the shadows starts beating with the fire poker Pruitt punches him they're in a fight it looks like he's gonna be able to shoot uh he like puts Will in a choke hold and then Kira comes out fucking beats Pruitt to death in the head with a fire poker. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:52 They, I believe, yes, they then take Pruitt's gun, which is a smart move. so they get up Will and Kira like then get up and go to leave on their way out of that room they run into Eden Eden has a gun shoots Will hits him in the shoulder then
Starting point is 01:07:19 shoots herself in the stomach what and what Shoots herself in the stomach. What? And... What? She's wearing this, like, white dress. It feels very, very almost over-the-top symbolic, because then the way that blood pools out of her body and onto her dress is, I think, supposed to be... Like a miscarriage.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah, like child loss metaphor. think supposed to be like a miscarriage yeah like child child loss metaphor um but she's still the stomach starts sort of slowly dying david then comes up the stairs with a knife uh they point their gun at him we know that the gun is out of bullets but they're like he doesn't know that so they point the gun at david and then out of the fucking blue tommy attacks david stabs him kills him we didn't know he was still alive but there he does then as she dies on the floor eden calls out for will that he comes up to her they both are sobbing she's like apologizing i don't even know if she apologized she was like i wanted to believe i like basically saying like i just i i wanted to think that there was a way to to absolve to get out of this um yeah asks him to take her outside
Starting point is 01:08:38 he picks her up they all the three kira will tommy and eden walk outside they lay eden down in the grass and she dies and there are you know three of them stand outside they hug they sob um tommy's like i need to go back in and get miguel's body His fucking husband who got shot at the outset. Will is standing in the backyard. We start to hear some sirens overhead. This is like a gorgeous backyard. Overlooks like all of the hills.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Will looks over, sees the red lantern glowing. Looks out into the hills. lantern glowing looks out into the scariest part of the entire movie we were like oh my god all of these people were doing this tonight yeah but like it's happening it's happening everywhere and it would happen in los angeles that would be where it would happen that okay that was so interesting honestly i feel like these types of movies are some of my favorite to hear about because i love hearing just about like the interpersonal relationships. I love not knowing really what the hell is going on. And I love that it's just like you're just dealing with people in a house like and trying to figure out like who's what motivations are existing for everyone else.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I mean, honestly, for most of it, it's just scary because it is the worst possible evening anyone could ever have. And that's before anyone dies. It's just, like, really uncomfortable, really sad, weird. It's just, like, it's the worst. It would be the worst night of your life even if it didn't end with murder-suicide. Like, it is truly fascinating and it's all the more powerful after having watched the vow and i really think it helps me to be like right that is how people get involved in something like this and the fact that they were gone for two years is also
Starting point is 01:11:23 makes it more realistic because it like takes time. Like this kind of indoctrination. And you have to experience deep, deep trauma to be open to that perspective. Right. Like these people are fucked up. And they're looking. Yeah, they're looking for a way out. They're looking for just a way around.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Honestly, I think the thing that makes the least sense in this movie is why Will stayed at this party. Yeah, no, no, no. Because of other stuff, I do understand. I think it's, I kept saying that's like a thing that Joel and I were saying as we watched the movie. He's like, why the fuck is this guy still there? That doesn't make any sense. I think there's a layer to him wanting to be in that house even though it's really difficult and you know it would be really alarming for your ex-wife to be behaving that way you would feel
Starting point is 01:12:12 some sort of need to like deal with it I think through yeah or find out what's going on but man oh man yeah that I think that that makes sense I mean I think that if I was Kira, I would be like, can we leave? Can we leave now? I don't want to be here. Also, do we think the assumption is, I mean, I'm sure, but Pruitt killed Claire? Probably. Probably. But yeah, they don't ever answer that either, which is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I would assume so, because it seems like the deal is that everyone who came to that party was there to die as part of their ritual. So, like, probably. And it's happening, and it's happening all over the place. I wish, I want to try to find that one shot. It is so chilling. Because, like, to think that they've just gone through all of this and they made it out, and then to look out and be like oh no it's happening everywhere scale of it oh and all these
Starting point is 01:13:13 just little glowing red lanterns too it's just like very freaky oh oh it's so creepy it's so creepy oh my god well yeah i mean i don't even know like what to say that was fucking insane that was crazy i loved it i honestly loved hearing about it that was really i thought it would i after watching i was like this is a good one to talk about because it is i mean there's something about fascinating the occult is i mean there's something about fascinating the cult is fascinating and there's something about how you know what i like about it it's that once someone does die it feels like it moves really quickly so it's not like someone dies like a third of the way through the movie and then the rest of the movie is them just like trying to escape or something yeah no it happened it is like all that shit
Starting point is 01:14:05 happens in like 10 minutes it is so fast and non-stop and like yeah absolute chaos and it's so satisfying because you know he has that huge freak out beforehand about joy and then it's nothing so then when it becomes something real like the the moments of doubt at the beginning and then it just is like like oh it's so satisfying when sadie goes you ruined it and you're like oh shit like she knew she's in on it in on it it fucking is happening it's so fucking intense at the end there which i also really like just like do it you know and the fact that it takes place in the hollywood hills perfect recall to the mansons did you see you so i'm sure you saw once upon a time in hollywood yes did you see that yeah in the end how it's like a reimagined
Starting point is 01:14:58 yeah um is it weird that now i like that makes me miss the Hollywood Hills? What does that mean about me that I'm like, oh, I want to be in a house like that again? You know, I get it. I really get it. Hollywood Hills are great. I think I'm feeling homesick for Los Angeles just in any way, shape or form right now. Even murder Los Angeles? Even the murder version of Los Angeles I get it I'd rather die here than live anywhere else
Starting point is 01:15:29 that's not true um well Emily as we like to say you fucking knocked it out oh my god did they knock it out of the park you knocked it out of the goddamn park even having not seen it in like a week and a half i knew you'd
Starting point is 01:15:46 do this you like recall it so perfectly and vividly it's so amazing it was a joy to tell it to you henley and i'm really glad that i got to hear about it we did it i i know i say this every time but part of me wants to watch it it's on netflix i think especially this one you you totally can it feels like i could yeah it's like it's not really like horary till then yeah it's just it's tense and you're always like waiting for something spooky to happen but it's not like unmanageably so um it's great i mean i enjoyed it fuck yeah, there weren't any spooky voices in this one. There weren't any spooky voices, no. But.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I mean. Sometimes you just. We can summon the spirit of the cult leader. We can summon that spirit. We can summon it. So just imagine that we're cult leaders when we say goodbye. Perfect. I love it.
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