Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE KILLING OF A SACRED DEER

Episode Date: March 9, 2022

Horrifying spaghetti consumption, too many children for Henley's emotional well-being and lots of confusing feelings about Barry Keoghan (hot?), this week we're recapping THE KILLING OF A SAC...RED DEER! Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFdGfwChtwYou can watch The Killing of a Sacred Deer on Netflix Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them, and I tell you
Starting point is 00:00:34 about them, or sometimes I force one of my co-hosts to watch them, and they are not happy about it. We will find out. We will find out. We will find out. Until then, and aside from that, did anything scary happen to us this week?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Henley? Okay, sorry. I momentarily had forgotten that we are saying what's a scary thing. And I had just prepared something that I've done this week. Say what you've prepared. Say what you've prepared. I would love to hear what you've prepared. The thing is, I was, had just prepared something that I've done this week, but say what you've prepared, say what you've prepared. I would love to hear what you've prepared. The thing is,
Starting point is 00:01:07 I haven't prepared anything. I just have a topic in mind, which is, and I, here's the thing. It is, it is a little scary. The amount of hours I have committed this past week to doing this,
Starting point is 00:01:20 which is listening to Poog. Have you guys listened to Poog? Is it related to goop? No, I mean, it's listening to Poog. Have you guys listened to Poog? Is it related to Goop? No. I mean, it's Goop backwards. Poog? P-O-O-G? Yeah. And it's a thing you listen to? You texted that to us and I was like, she must have misspelled
Starting point is 00:01:36 Goop. Wait, I was under the impression that Poog was like a household name. Do people not know what Poog is? I certainly don't. I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I don't know why anyone would. All right. So it's a podcast. It's hosted by Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak, the two comedians. And they just chat with each other. And someone had recommended it to me before. I tried listening to it like a few months ago. I turned it on. I was like, I don't like this. But then for some reason,
Starting point is 00:02:11 I returned to it recently. And I have listened to probably like 12 episodes in the past week, which is like 12 hours of poop. They are just friends who the conceit of the podcast is they're talking about like, wellness, skincare products, all of that, which doesn't sound interesting on the surface, but they have a dynamic that I find extremely compelling. They're very funny. They do things like, and they just they just love it they they love doing it they're enjoying themselves so much you can tell and they do things like they talk about what they would do if they were at a restaurant together in that moment and they would talk about what they would order and they would like argue about it and they go through like the entire menu this
Starting point is 00:03:00 fictional menu that they've created and they're like like, and they're like, getting into like the nitty gritty, and they're making each other laugh. I'm laughing. I, Jacqueline Novak is working on a hour long stand up routine. She's like, doing material. And Caperland is like, that's not funny. Or like, I'm not compelled by that or laughing her ass off. Like they're just very honest with each other and clearly extremely comfortable with each other. And I don't know why I think it is very specific. So if you're not into it, I can completely understand. But I'm in a moment, at least right now, where I'm very into it and I'm finding it extremely interesting and I'm so happy. You know when you find something like that and you're like, great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I love to love something. I was going to say, I love hearing people like having a good time. That's nice. And also just there's so much content, but finding content that you actually want to spend time with and enjoy is hard. It's not so hard. In fact, sometimes I won't even try because I'm overwhelmed by the amount. Yes. So you know that I just you guys know I relisten to and rewatch the same things I
Starting point is 00:04:11 have like met like a troubling amount of times like over and over and over again because I'm like, I can't possibly find a new thing. How could one find a new thing? It's overwhelming. I admire people who aren't that way. I admire people who are constantly searching out new things and getting into new things. The energy. Adventurers. Absolute adventurers. Explorers. Indiana Jones of content.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Exactly. That's what I aspire to be. And I'm not that way either, Emily. I'm also re-listening to everything. Anyway, that's what I was thinking about. Okay, this actually changed what I was going to talk about. Whoa. I was going to talk about how I got about $5,000 in medical bills this week.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Oh my God. Horrifying. Scary thing is the American health care system. But now I just remembered, speaking of podcasts and speaking of Henley, that I listened to a podcast that Henley recommended. Oh, no. Which one? Oh, no. Horrifying.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Oh, no. Henley, why was that your response? Oh, no. Oh, no. It's going to be so intimately revealing of my tastes, whatever it is. You know what it is. So it's called Root of Evil. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I forgot about this. so it's called root of evil oh god it's just it's a podcast about the black dahlia murderer and like going way in depth told from the perspective of the murderer's grandchildren and it's like the most is it their actual grandchildren or that's just a fiction oh no and it's like riverdale shit it's the most disturbing thing i feel like i've ever listened to and i just could not the whole time could not stop thinking like i can't believe henley recommended this like this is so i'm really confused by it absolutely there's like no way in hell present day henley post having a child could listen to this like I feel like there's so it's like basically wall to wall kid stuff oh no
Starting point is 00:06:10 I don't Sammy I don't understand either I listened to the entire thing and it ruined my I told you I told you it ruined my life it ruined my life for a short period of time nonetheless I still did it I think it was I think I listened to it when it came out, which is like 2018, maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Maybe it was a particularly dark period of time for me where I was just like lapping up even more darkness. I don't know. Laughing it up. Sure. And there's something about an auditory experience rather than a visual one. If this had been any kind of a visual thing, there's no way in hell. But if you're driving, you're cleaning the dishes, you can kind of hear.
Starting point is 00:06:50 You can just listen to anything, right? You can kind of hear it. Well, I keep asking you guys. I'm like, this is the thing that I actually do want to know. I want you to tell me. And you guys keep saying you won't. That's how much Sammy even is like, no. You don't want to know. I'm like, I do. He won't like that's how much like sammy even is like no you don't want to know i'm
Starting point is 00:07:05 like i do no you won't tell me you like genuinely don't because emily when you said that i was like let me just dip my toe back into this to remind myself of why it's so upsetting that i started reading five seconds and i did i had to turn the wikipedia off i had to shut it down. I had to walk away. It's so bad. We could recap it, but we just couldn't go into specifics. You said, we could tell you, we just have to not give you details. That's what telling me is. What do you mean? What else is
Starting point is 00:07:38 there? Also, because it's true. It's real. That's part of what makes it so bad. People love true crime. I'm sure a lot of people listening love Also because it's true. It's real. That's part of what makes it so bad. Bad, bad. People love true crime. I'm sure a lot of people listening love true crime. I find it fascinating that it's such a huge, huge industry because those are real stories.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It is really fascinating. And I told you guys, I started listening to this podcast, Something Was Wrong, which is like sort of true crimey, but told from the perspective of the victims which is like a really interesting perspective on it but yeah i mean sometimes when you're listening to true crime i i do just like feel so gross and it's interesting because horror is like also yeah like scary and disturbing and like what is happening in my brain that i'm liking this but there's another level to it when it's like oh it's also all real and like why am i binging this podcast of like true things that happened that are just really upsetting like why do we like that well people do people fucking love it i liked it i couldn't turn this podcast off i think there's
Starting point is 00:08:40 an element of like who this didn't happen to me do you know what i mean just like because being alive is so insane that sometimes you're like well fuck this is an option i don't know well i think that's true i think especially because young women especially love true crime and there's something about being it's like a guidebook of like here's warnings of things that can happen in life and here's what to look out for. Right. And here's why you shouldn't trust anybody in the whole world. Don't trust anyone.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Don't trust anybody. Don't trust anyone. Don't trust anyone. That feeling you have, that constant fear, it's good. It's good. Lean in. Lean in. It's correct.
Starting point is 00:09:19 All right, Emily, anything scary happen to you this week? I mean, we started this podcast with me sitting with a fucking massive heating pad around my neck because I just woke up with a freaking crick in my neck. It really hurts. And I think it's because we sat too much yesterday. I don't know. I probably slept weird. But I also like it really made me upset when I woke up this morning because I was just You know those feelings where you're like I didn't even Do any it's like why why
Starting point is 00:09:48 Are you doing this to me I laid down in A bed and slept like I do every Night and like I must do to Exist and then you're gonna punish me for it I'm really Upset one time I woke up In so much pain from sleeping weird that I Had to go to urgent care and get a shot
Starting point is 00:10:03 To like relax my muscles. It's like embarrassing. It's like, hi, I need medical attention because of the way I slept. It's like so embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's humiliating. And I think
Starting point is 00:10:20 this isn't what I was going to talk about, but you know what? It is what I'm talking about now because it's really it sucks and I and I think it's because we sat too much yesterday because we went and saw the Batman which can you guys give me
Starting point is 00:10:35 a little review of the Batman how to go loved it we loved it sorry listeners if you didn't want to know and I didn't give you a warning you just heard it here from my from our lips we We loved it. I loved it because it did make me feel so weird though because we saw
Starting point is 00:10:51 this movie at 11 a.m. on a Saturday and it's three hours long and it had 30 minutes of trailers. A full three hours? A literal three hour movie. Why? With 30 minutes of Trailers beforehand at 11am
Starting point is 00:11:07 On a Saturday morning and so we Basically just like woke up got breakfast and then Sat in darkness for three and a half hours And then came out and it was raining And then it was like late in the day and then I was hungry But then it was like too late for I just like the Whole day I felt so insane from having What also it's like a really intense
Starting point is 00:11:23 Moody movie It just was and then i woke up this morning my fucking neck hurt i was just like what did that man do to me like it just really like affected my whole weekend and joel like won't stop playing the theme like like he won't stop playing it we listened to it we listened to it on the ride to the movie we listened to it on the ride home from the movie he put it on last night and we got home from dinner this morning i was making coffee and you can like start music from anywhere on your phone and all of a sudden i hear the fucking batman theme i'm just like it's a really good theme it's a great theme but i am starting to
Starting point is 00:12:02 be a point where i'm like is is this just life? My life now? Is it just Batman all the time? But I did. It's worth all the physical consequences that I've suffered from it. I really, I can't wait to see it again. And I don't want to see it again in a theater because I don't want to sit in a theater for three and a half hours again. But I also don't want to wait six weeks for it to come out on streaming. So I will go see it again in a theater.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I fucking loved it. Was Rob everything you wanted and more? More. He was so good to the point where I was like, I was telling you last night, like, I'm really proud of him. I don't know him. Like, I don't he doesn't need me to be. But I'm just like, what a big weight to be Batman. And like, people are going to have a lot of thoughts.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And I think he was he because he's he's weird. We know he's a little freaky man, but like he was the Batman like he was Batman. He did Batman. Do you know what I mean? He didn't do like, oh, I mean it is like a sort of a moody, weird, angsty Batman, but also like he was Batman
Starting point is 00:13:01 like he did the thing. It was like it works. It's like movie star fucking the Batman, Batman. And I, God, I loved it. From the moment I first heard his voice in voiceover at the beginning of the movie, I was like, okay. Here we go. We're doing it. We're doing it. And I'm not deeply attached to Batman as a kid.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You know how a lot of people are like, Batman has to be a specific way. People are like really weird about superheroes. I don't fucking care. I just care about Rob, obviously. And I'm so proud. Can I tell you guys something really embarrassing? Please. So I've not seen the batman however i did watch a bunch of um uh promo videos with robert pattinson and
Starting point is 00:13:46 zoe kravitz doing interviews together um to promote the movie and they always make them do like little quizzes and stuff to get to like prove how well you know each other and it's actually you can tell they really like each other but it's also humiliating these types of things that they have to do they ask them these questions They don't know the answers. They don't know anything. They don't know shit about each other at the end of the day. Of course not. There was one point where they asked, they were like, what was the project the person
Starting point is 00:14:14 worked on right before filming Batman? And Zoe Kravitz knew it was Tenet for Robert Pattinson. And he spent truly 10 minutes trying to remember the name of her TV show. And he thought that it was Big Little Lies, which she was in. But that was not the one for it. High fidelity? Yeah, it was high fidelity. But he kept he was thinking of Big Little Lies clearly.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And he kept saying, it's like crazy rich Asians, but not. He was like three words. He was like rich white women. God, i really think he i think he's perfect and and like the amount the like connection i feel towards him is it does somewhat alarm me because it's i don't know him um but we we love our rob i love him our Rob. I love him. Our Raub. Raub. We love him. Man, I love him.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I love him. Speaking of things we don't love. No, I was going to say, was there another movie that you saw that you had a strong feeling about? It's been a weird week, you guys. There's another movie I saw this week that Sammy recommended I watch. movie I saw this week that Sammy recommended I watch and it really
Starting point is 00:15:29 it really really affected me okay so this week I had to watch the movie and Sammy was like oh you should watch this one and I thought okay and I was interested
Starting point is 00:15:44 but should watch this one and i thought okay and i was interested but okay the expectations were not set properly they were not set properly because because they were not set properly we'll get into it we'll get into it the movie is the killing of a sacred deer came out in 2017. It's an A24 movie. It premiered at Cannes in 2017. It's directed by Yorgos Lanthimos. I'm sure I'm not saying that right. I think that's right. Great. Yorgos.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Love him. You have some thoughts. He did The Favorite and The Lobster. So, yes, it's directed by Yorgos Lanthimos, written by Yorgos Lanthimos and F. F. Themus Philippou? That one also I think, yes, correct. I'm joking. I have no idea. Okay. It stars Barry
Starting point is 00:16:35 Keegan, Colin Farrell, Nicole Kidman, Rafi Cassidy, Sonny Suljic, and Bill Camp and Alicia Silverstone. Okay. Okay. I was excited. I was excited to watch this because I really love the favorite. I will not say I really loved Lobster.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I will say the Lobster is very good and really unnerved me. And I was like, okay, this is going to be like like, a little more unnerving than The Lobster. That's correct. Yeah. Oh, no. It's so good. I'll say this. It is such a good movie.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And in, like, taking notes for it and, like, rethinking about it, it is, like, truly incredible. And the cast is so good. And everyone in it is so good. And it's, like, it is, like, and the cast is so good and everyone in it is so good and it's like it is like absolutely an incredible movie it also is the bleakest darkest thing i've ever seen i truly all i wanted was for the movie to be over like all i wanted was for it to end i was i just like was just like please let these minutes go by. Please, please, please let this movie be over for
Starting point is 00:17:49 most of the movie. Oh, man. I can't wait to have to listen to you recap the movie if you felt that way while watching the movie. And Henley, I'm also, also, I'm so sorry, Henley. I'm so sorry. Talk about well-to-well kid stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah, it's pretty nonstop kid stuff. I didn't tell Henley to watch it. I wouldn't have told Henley. You did not tell Henley to watch it. So I was watching it. And Joel, too, because Joel loves it. And he was like, oh, yeah, I think you'd enjoy watching it. And about halfway through through I truly was like
Starting point is 00:18:25 Like I had sunk I had visibly sunken Into like a pit of despair as I was Watching this movie and Joel looked at me And he was like why did Sammy tell you to Watch this and then Later when the three of us talked and both of Sammy and Joel were like
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah I thought you would like it until I Started re-watching it and then I realized, oh, no way. This was a huge... This is absolutely not a movie you would like. Yeah, it's one that I saw, I feel like, when it came out and I haven't watched it since. And so in my mind, I was like, I remember two bad scenes. But you forget the like wall-to-wall dread in it. The dread.
Starting point is 00:19:04 The dread. it's so it's like it is it's just it so upsetting in like every moment like it's just no fuck God okay but okay so it has an
Starting point is 00:19:19 80% on Rotten Tomatoes 73% on Metacritic 7 on IMDb super high so that's part of it is is that people loved this movie, I think. It is an incredible movie. It really is. It really is incredible. The story isn't... I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I hope to never, ever again. The performances are true. It's such good acting. It's so well directed. It's like, Yorgos is so specific Yeah So if you've seen The Lobster if you've seen The Favourite It does
Starting point is 00:19:51 The same thing where it's like those like long Weird tracking shots and like Ominous sounds And that like Everyone's sort of tone speaking is like Really flat like the way line Deliveries happen is like Does a lot of that stuff that he is like so known for. It's just like also like the most upsetting story ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It is rated R for disturbing, violent and sexual content. Oh, no. Yeah. Sammy, I don't know what the budget was. I tried to find out. So your ghost fucking why are you keeping secrets but it made 7 million at the box office which is like Probably not
Starting point is 00:20:30 Probably not a lot Okay I'm gonna do some trivia Okay It opens with a Scene of a very close up open Heart surgery And That is real That is a real
Starting point is 00:20:49 Those films they were able to Like step in on a real surgery And Colin Farrell was there He attended and said it like really fucked him up Oh my god Colin is committed to his craft Colin is committed to his craft You cannot say he is not,
Starting point is 00:21:05 especially if you watch The Batman. I had a big, I had a big feral week. The story is based on the Greek tragedy, Iphigenia, which I'll talk about after. Nicole Kidman and Colin Farrell began working together on The Beguiled in 2017, only a few weeks after they wrapped filming this.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I forgot that they're both in that. Yeah, and both premiered at Cannes that year, which is very interesting. Alicia Silverstone and Nicole Kidman became part of this project because they were both fans of Yorgos and begged him, begged him it says, to cast them.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Please, Yorgos, please, please, please. I imagine them, yeah, like on their knees, hands, in prayer. Y. Please, Yorgos, please, please, please. I imagine them, yeah, like on their knees, hands in prayer. Yorgos, please. Bob is the only principal character played by an American, despite the movie taking place in Ohio. Colin Farrell and Barry Keegan are Irish. Nicole Kidman is Australian and Raffi Cassidy is British. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Interesting. Interesting. They all have American accents, except for Colin Farrell. He has his own Irish accent, a choice that I agree with. Interesting. Interesting. They all have American accents, except for Colin Farrell. He has his own Irish accent, a choice that I agree with. If someone has an Irish accent, let them do their Irish accent. Let them do it. They don't let
Starting point is 00:22:14 Barry do his, but he's doing something. He's doing a lot of other stuff. I can't really fault any choices that were made with Barry's character. I feel like it works. Oh, man. Oh, man. man what an actor what a freak um wow okay okay so we're gonna watch we're gonna watch this trailer so henley what do you know about this movie i know literally nothing except before we started
Starting point is 00:22:38 recording i told tim that we were doing this movie and he was like oh yeah it's a really fucked up one about like i people said it was really good but then movie and he was like oh yeah it's a really fucked up one about like I people said it was really good but then they said it was like really disturbing and about a really fucked up kid so I never wanted to watch it that's all I know that's all yeah it's not wrong yeah it's not wrong I truly I don't know
Starting point is 00:22:58 how I like didn't I didn't know what it was about at all and I went in like fully blind other than knowing who the cast was and being like that's interesting i'm scared i wait okay all right here's here's okay i know it's rated r for disturbing violence but is it technically a horror movie or is it just like a really intense here's what i'll say here's what i'll say okay it is not scary like yeah you will not those are my those are my least favorite those are my least favorite give me are my least favorite. Give me the scares. Give me the conjuring.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Give me ghosts all day long. But you give me real life fucked up examples of what it's like to be dark in real life. And I want to crawl in a hole and die forever. You will want to crawl in a hole and die. But it's not necessarily real life. It's not necessarily real life. It's doing something. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But it is. Yeah, I will say it's not scary.'s very interesting but it is um yeah i will say it's not scary like anyone could watch it in terms of scare like no it's not you're it's not scary it did at one point i was in such deep dread while watching it like it just like filled me like like physiologically with such dread that i did get convinced at one point that i might be dying um but and it's like hard after watching it it's hard to like when i say that i'm like that sounds crazy like obviously that's that's not but like i i i did get scared while watching it that like wait is something wrong with me am i actually dying I actually dying? I just was filled with such true dread.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And I cannot think, like, that's just true. That's just true that I believed that I was ill. Okay, here's the thing. We need to get into this recap, but I just need to tell you guys, it's 3.15 p.m. I've been awake since 6 a.m. I haven't slept in days.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I don't sleep. I take care of a baby all the time. That's all I do. I might need to make a tequila soda like halfway through. Yeah, look, whatever you need to do, whatever you do, you should do it. And like I think if you're in a state right now where like you sort of really, like, connect with what's being told to you, that's also fine. Like, if that is, like, sort of where you're at, I think that might be in your best interest. Just leave my emotions at the door.
Starting point is 00:25:13 We're coming in cold. Just sort of float through this if you can. Okay. Great. That being said, let's watch this freaking trailer. We, we don't have to worry about nothing cause we got the fire and we're burning
Starting point is 00:25:29 one hell of a something. They, they're gonna see us from outer space. Yeah, I'm really sorry about Pod. It's nothing serious. No, it is. Like all the stars
Starting point is 00:25:41 of the human race, human race. Where did you two go? How did his father die? A surgeon never kills a patient. An anesthesiologist can kill a patient, but a surgeon never can. Don't be scared, Mom. We'll see. You won't be able to move either. But you'll get used to it. Where is she? What did you do to her?
Starting point is 00:26:20 I don't understand why I should have to pay the price. Why my children should have to pay the price. Why my children should have to pay the price. It's the only thing I can think of as close to justice. We can light it up. So they can put it out, out, out. Here's the thing. I'm like already not OK. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:44 That was not OK. Even just that minute was not OK. It already not okay. Oh, I know. That was not okay. Even just that minute was not okay. It's not okay. Seeing children in the hospital is not okay for me right now. And I'm going to fucking lose my shit this entire podcast. Oh, Henley. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I really am. I really am so sorry. My emotional barrier is zero. I have zero emotional barrier right now. I'm like already crying. Oh, Henley, I really am really sorry. I really am. I like really am. I wish I didn't have to do it, but I do. And I
Starting point is 00:27:15 and like here it goes. I'm like not exaggerating. This will be the hardest one I've ever done. No, you're correct. I think you were right. Yeah. As I was thinking of Emily watching it, I was like, oh, it is like the most similar also to Funny Games. I feel like is the closest film we've done to it.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah. I saw it. Which I didn't think about before. I saw a review. I saw a review that said it's like the combo of Sophie's Choice and Funny Games. So just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:27:53 What? Let's freaking get into it. Let's rip this band-aid off. Sorry! Sorry, Henley. Oh my gosh, she's... It's not going to be good. This isn't going to be good. She's not doing well. She's not doing well. She's not doing well. We haven't even started.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I'm like going to have a panic attack. Everything's fine. Take a deep breath. We haven't even started. Make that tequila soda, baby. Do it, do it, do it. Not yet, but maybe halfway through. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:31:08 but it's like, like you see it just like, like, it's like, it's just crazy. Yeah. And it's really close up. So you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:16 not even in time. You're like, what am I actually seeing? But it's, it's open heart surgery. It's a heart. I watched it the whole time. And so in this moment, I was like, I'm going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Look how brave I am. I can watch this. And then like, that was nothing. That was nothing. But so, you know, cut to two doctors. Or I think you see like you pan up and you see Colin Farrell. He's the surgeon. He like removes his gloves.
Starting point is 00:31:44 He takes his little thing off. We see him and his anesthesiologist, whose name is Matthew. Colin Farrell is Steven. Is this Bill Camp? This is Bill Camp. Who I just got to say, I fucking love Bill Camp.
Starting point is 00:31:58 He's so great. He's so great. I don't know who that is. You do. You would probably recognize him. I think everybody does. He's in everything. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He's in everything and he's very good. So they're walking down the hall of the hospital discussing their watches and Stephen's like, I really like your watch. How deep can it go in the water? And he's like, 200 meters. I really like your watch. How deep can it go in the water? 100 meters.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They're just clearly like cutting people open and dealing with their hearts is not a big deal. Doesn't affect them at all. They're very used to it. Then Cut to Steven is at a diner finishing up a slice of apple pie, sitting alone. And Barry Keegan comes in, sits at the table with him. This is Martin. He apologizes for being late.
Starting point is 00:32:47 They have a very, you know, this is very Yorgos. They both have a very deadpan line delivery back and forth. But we don't really know what their relationship is. They clearly know each other. At first, you're like, is this his kid? Like, is this his kid? Or like I, I knowing nothing about this movie was torn somewhere between this is his stepchild or they have some sort of sexual relationship. I remember feeling that way as well.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Like, those are the only options that feel possible. Yeah. Wow. So it's where you're just like, you don't they're like having this sort of stilted conversation at the diner, but they're clearly trying to connect. And then Stephen gifts Martin a watch. And it is the same watch that Matthew, his anesthesiologist, had because he tells Martin, he's like, you know, depth of 200 meters when you put it underwater. And Stephen gives him a really big hug. And it's like kind of awkward but he's like thank you so much Thank you so much for the gift
Starting point is 00:33:47 That night we see Steven at home Having dinner with his family so we That's when I was like okay this isn't His stepson But he does he has a wife Who is Nicole Kidman her name is Anna Young son Bob Bob probably is
Starting point is 00:34:03 10 And his daughter Kim who is like 12 or 13 um and they're just a sweet little family having their dinner um and you know bob has sort of long hair and steven says i mean i wish you would get a haircut and anna says, I like his long hair. And you have beautiful hair. They're having like a little family dinner. Sort of getting a feel for them. A fun, happy family. Fun, happy family.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Nothing bad will happen ever. Nothing bad is going to happen probably to them. No, the movie ends. Roll credits. Roll credits. We got a kid who we don't know who he is getting a watch. And that's the movie. That had a kid who we don't know who he is getting a watch. And that's the movie. That's a beautiful story.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That night, Stephen and Anna are getting ready for bed. She's talking about she's going to get that black dress he liked. That's the one that she bought. She's getting it tailored. Then she takes off her clothes
Starting point is 00:35:03 and she says to him, general anesthesia. And he says, yes. And so she lays down on the bed as if she's knocked out cold under anesthesia and just her bra and underwear. He clearly you don't see him, but he's like off screen. Just you can tell he's like starting to touch himself. And then he like comes over to her and starts kissing her. And it is fucking creepy. But also, there is something sort of sweet about it.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's like... Well, it's consensual. It's consensual. This is what they're into. The only creepy part is that he puts people under. And this is what turns him on. Yeah. I don't love that. But
Starting point is 00:35:45 they seem I mean they they seem to have like a very communicative and open relationship. Yeah. Next day Martin or sorry Stephen is at the hospital and he sees Martin there and he's surprised to see him
Starting point is 00:36:01 sort of calls him over they and Stephen there in a hallway sort of whispering. And Stephen's like, you know, you can't just surprise me here. You need to tell me when you're coming. And Martin says, I'm sorry. I just I wanted to thank you for the watch. It's just very nice of you to get me the watch. And Barry Kehan's portrayal.
Starting point is 00:36:19 He's like a very like he's like pretty weird guy. And he's like, sorry sorry I just wanted to like tell you like thank you for the watch it was really nice of you to get me he's just like strange but it seems like he's just trying to he's like sorry I didn't I didn't know and Matthew comes
Starting point is 00:36:38 up and sees them talking Matthew comes to talk to Stephen and sorry Stephen tells Matthew, oh, this is Martin. He's a schoolmate of my daughter's. He's interested in becoming a cardiologist. That's why he's here at the hospital. And
Starting point is 00:36:55 it feels like that's not correct. Like we feel like that's a lie. Yeah. So we know that at least his relationship with Martin is something that he's not telling people about. Something secretive. Something secretive. Then that night at home, Stephen and Anna
Starting point is 00:37:13 are getting ready to go to some gala. She's put on that black dress. He's wearing a tux. He sits with his daughter Kim on the bed where she goes through her scales. She's in choir and so she's just like Ah Ah
Starting point is 00:37:28 And he's just like sitting and listening and then he like Hugs her and is like very good I feel like another Yorgos thing Is just like sitting in a scene For like the Real time yes And just being like okay Okay cool still going
Starting point is 00:37:46 Bob is in there like messing with his long Hair and Stephen tells him Like you need to go water the plants we're trying to All help mom out she works really hard And he's like mom always waters the plants For me it's like no I want you to go water the plants We're just having our little way like you're getting this little Family dynamic but then the parents
Starting point is 00:38:02 Anna and Stephen go To this gala, some sort of medical gala thing. Stephen is up there giving a speech. Clearly, he's like very well respected and important. Everyone is enjoying his toast. And then after the toast, Anna and Stephen go to leave. Matthew is there and he's trying to convince him to stay. He's like, it's early. Come on. It's like, don't leave yet. And she's saying he has surgery in the morning. Like he has to stay sharp. You know, you both should.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Matthew tries to offer Stephen a drink and Anna says he has not a drink in three years. And we, you know, we need to go. He needs to be sharp for the morning. And so they leave. The next day, Stephen and Martin are on a walk.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And Stephen invites, Stephen says, I think you should come to dinner and meet my family. I would like for you to come over for dinner and meet my family. So we're like, don't do it. Okay. Don't do it. Don't do that. Okay. I guess it's not like so secret, you know, like he wants him to meet his family.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So, okay. So he comes over and, you know, they're all sitting in the living room and Anna has made them lemonade. And Martin's going on about how, like, thank you for the lemonade. I really like the lemonade. My mom makes really good lemonade. But this lemonade is like as good as my mom's lemonade. OK.
Starting point is 00:39:18 You should really try my mom's lemonade someday. I'll bring the lemonade. OK. OK. Then Kim, Bob martin are all hanging out in kim's room kim is like sitting on the bed they're all sort of getting to know each other and kim mentions like she just got her first period they're just like the way they all speak to each other is she's like i just got my period um okay bob asks martin if he has hair under his
Starting point is 00:39:42 armpits and martin's like I have a little and he shows him And Bob says you don't have as much hair Not as much as my dad my dad has a lot Of hair on under his armpits And Kim asks Martin if she wants to go on a walk With him and Says can we take the dog and he says
Starting point is 00:40:00 No I'll go on a walk with you but I don't want to bring the dog dogs make me nervous because I don't want like what if it gets in a fight with another dog I'm really nervous about having to break up a fight between two dogs I relate to that very hard it is one of my greatest fears I'm scared of anyone being alone with Martin
Starting point is 00:40:18 I mean I don't know anything about what this movie is about I think you're supposed to feel that way yes I'm not excited and at this point in the movie I think you're supposed to feel that way. Yes. I'm not excited. At this point in the movie, I mean, up until I will tell you when you actually I mean, you'll know when you know what's happening. But like the first 45 minutes of this movie, you're just like, what's going on? What is happening?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Like are given nothing. You're just given a bunch of scenes of who these people are. And it's all kind of weird. Very little is explained. But you're like, what's the thing gonna be and then boy did they tell you but um at this point we don't know yet so she goes on a walk with with martin and he had asked her to sing for she's like i'm in choir and he's like sing me a song and she's embarrassed and bob's like she's embarrassed doesn't want to sing but then they go on this walk
Starting point is 00:40:59 and there's just a scene of she's like he's sitting on the ground and she's leaning against this tree and singing and like i think it's like imagine dragons this song she's just a scene of she's like he's sitting on the ground and she's leaning against this tree and singing. And like I think it's like Imagine Dragons, this song. She's just like singing. It's the song in the trailer. She sings like that very kid way of like she is hitting the notes. And then cause we got the fire Fire fire and we're Gonna let it burn burn She sings like that very kid way Of like she is hitting the notes but
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's just like that's all it is It's just like hitting notes It's very interesting and that we stay on that for like Basically the whole song That she like sings to him So we're also getting a feel she's like Definitely got a crush on Martin Um which I Think that the note of her just getting her first period is like so important in terms of how of like understanding her having a crush on Martin.
Starting point is 00:41:55 It's like, God, do you remember how insane you felt at that point in your life? Like, yes. Oh, my God. Sane you felt at that point In your life like Yes oh my god I found a Diary recently when I was moving That I've like kept all these years from Like that exact time like when I was in like Seventh grade and it's Horrifying to look back on
Starting point is 00:42:15 I was Obsessed with the boy I had a crush on and I signed like Every diary entry Like PS goodnight to you I love you I hope you love me Every single day Like a fuck
Starting point is 00:42:31 Like it's like but it's just cause you're just like I don't know Like it's just like Just hormones like oh my god Changing your brain Turning you into a little psychopath Little psychopath Um then they're back for the walk And Steven invites Martin to changing your brain, turning you into a little psychopath. Little psychopath.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Then they're back for the walk and Steven invites Martin to stay the night. He says you can stay in Bob's room and then we'll take you home in the morning. And he says, no, I shouldn't leave my mom. I'm not, I don't, because we've learned his dad has passed away. And so he's like, I don't want to leave my mom alone. I also feel like at this point, are we kind of
Starting point is 00:43:03 feeling like Steven is like trying to placate Martin in a way like is he like he's like trying to be extra nice to him and shit right yeah it does feel a bit like that like again at this point I'm still like
Starting point is 00:43:21 I do not understand what his relationship to this kid is, why he wants him around. Yeah, his motivations are not explained. But it feels like Martin has like something over him. It does feel like Martin or at least like Martin or Stephen like. Feels that he must put himself in this role and see like it does like we so we know that's that martin's dad isn't in the picture or is has passed away so it does feel like steven is somehow being like i i have to like be in his life in this way it's just like so it's like maybe he feels like
Starting point is 00:43:57 sorry for him and he's just trying to be a father figure for him but also he like seems a little nervous about it right or did I making that up no no no it feels correct um but mainly it's just like we're all just deeply unnerved by Martin like it's just like his energy is scary we haven't even gotten into it yet my whole body is clenched up
Starting point is 00:44:19 you'll be sore after this I'm already feeling sore you're gonna need a stretch a stretch break you're gonna have a crick're going to have a crick in the neck. Martin also, he says, he compliments their neighborhood. He's like, this is a very lovely house. This is a very nice neighborhood. Very quiet, very clean. And Anna says, where do you live?
Starting point is 00:44:40 He says, I don't live in a nice neighborhood. I live up north and it's not a nice part of town and um so we also are like feeling sad for him kind of i don't know it's it's bizarre but that night anna asks steven how martin's dad died and steven says uh wait hold on sorry oh yes okay so she asked how did Stephen's dad die or how did Martin's dad die and Stephen says he got in a car accident and was killed instantly
Starting point is 00:45:14 Martin was a patient of mine a few years ago I feel sorry for him and she says did you go to the funeral and he says yes I did and she says oh why didn't I go and he says, yes, I did. And she says, oh, why didn't I go? And he says, oh, you were busy. I think you were busy.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I think I told you about it, but you were busy. Secret funeral. Yeah, very weird. Dennis are getting into bed. Stephen's phone rings. And Anna says, oh, you should take it. That could be the hospital. So he walks into the other room. He takes the phone call.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It's Martin. And Martin thanks him for having him over for dinner and says, I'd like to I'd like to repay the favor. You should come to dinner at my house tomorrow. I've already told my mom you're coming. So you have to say yes. And she's going to make her lemonade. And, you know, my mom will be very pleased to see you. It's been two years since she saw you at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So that next day, Stephen is leaving the hospital at the end of the day. And as he's driving out of the parking garage, he's like going down the levels. He sort of sees out of the corner of his eye a kid who looks like Martin, sort of like skulking and like running around. And then he looks back and he's not there. He's like, that's weird. Then he's at Martin's house that night and he asks, were you at the hospital today? And Martin says, no, I was in school.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And he says, says oh I just thought I might have seen you I wondered if you tried to come and see me but I was too busy and he says no I wasn't at the hospital after dinner Martin asks them he's like can you stay and watch a movie we watch a movie with us and he says no
Starting point is 00:46:41 I didn't tell my wife that I would be late I really should be going and both Martin and his mom, his mom by the way is alicia silverstone oh okay they really want him to stay i'm like oh just stay for a little bit please would you just stay and martin says this it was my father's favorite movie and so it's clear that he's guilting steven into staying and watching this movie with him uh the movie is groundhog day which i just think is really funny you You see it in the background that they're watching Groundhog Day. That's great. And
Starting point is 00:47:08 early into the movie, Martin goes like, I'm tired. I'm going to go to bed. Sorry, I can't finish the movie. Good night. And he goes and gives Stephen another really weird hug. And Stephen's just like, okay. And so then Stephen and Martin's mom are sitting on the couch together. another like really weird hug and steve was just sort of like okay and so then steven and martin's
Starting point is 00:47:25 mom are sitting on the couch together and she turns to him and she says asks him how long he's been married and he says he's been married for 16 years and she looks at his hands and she's like you have such beautiful hands doctors have always have such beautiful hands your hands are so white soft and, and clean. And I remember your hands from when I used to visit my husband at the hospital. Oh, okay. So he did not die instantly.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah. There it is. And she says, do you remember me then? I was heavier and my hair was brown. I just got tired of it. I've changed it. It's blonde now. Do you like it better now?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Do you like my hair better now? I hate this. And he just says, I think it's nicer now. I don't know. He's being Irish. I don't know. And she said, can I take a closer look at your hands? How much closer can you get?
Starting point is 00:48:19 This is how much closer. She takes his hand, starts kissing it, and then starts putting his fingers in her mouth oh my god no no no like performing oral sex on his hands no get out of there and he's time to go steven time to go yeah he pulls away and is like i'm sorry i i have to go and she says martin's not gonna wake up he's in in bed and he wants this as much as I do. And Stephen's like, and he gets up and leaves. The next day when Martin, I'm sorry, when Stephen gets to work, he opens the door to his office and Martin is inside his office. I hate this. And Stephen says, Martin, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:49:03 And he said, my heart, it hurts. I woke up today and my heart hurts right here. And he starts like banging on his chest. And Stephen says, you're fine. Like, there's nothing wrong with you. And he says, well, I'm just worried, you know, because it's hereditary. And, you know, it's hereditary. And so I'm worried. And Stephen says, you're too young
Starting point is 00:49:25 to be worried. And he says, well, see, that's what you told my dad. And he was very healthy. You know, he never smoked, swam every day. He should have come out of that surgery alive, but he died. Oh, okay. Oh, boy. So Stephen runs tests on him.
Starting point is 00:49:41 He does the thing where he puts all the little stickers on his chest and he's like running on a treadmill. And after that, the test, Stephen says, you know, everything came back healthy or you're perfectly healthy. There's nothing wrong with you. And Martin asks, he's like, what would you do? How would you put these stickers on if I had hair on my chest? And he says, we would shave the hair. And he goes
Starting point is 00:50:05 Bob told me that you have a lot of hair on your chest will you show me and he's like uh no I'm not going to take my shirt off I don't know what he really says but he's like please please I just want to see please will you show me
Starting point is 00:50:21 oh boy and so he unbuttons his shirt and like like, pulls it one side back and, like, shows him the hair under his armpits, the hair on his chest. And Martin's like, yeah, you have more hair than me. But that's not a lot more hair. That's not so much more hair. Anyway, you know, my mom had a really good time at dinner last night. And, you know, I think that you guys would make a really good couple. You know, she just really likes you.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I think you guys would make a great couple. You know, I really support it. She's got a really good couple you know she's she just really likes you i think you guys would make a great couple you know i really support it she's got a great figure you know oh my god it's so creepy you've seen it she's got a great figure you know she used to be she was heavier before but now you know she just got you know you've seen her it's a really nice body uh-huh uh-huh and steven says your your mom is very beautiful but you know obviously I'm never going to be with her I'm a happily married man I love my wife I love my kids very much
Starting point is 00:51:12 and so you know that moment ends the next day they Stephen and Anna go to lunch barbecue lunch at Matthew and his wife's house. Matthew's the anesthesiologist, Bill Camp. And while they're there, Stephen takes a phone call from Martin from inside the house.
Starting point is 00:51:34 The rest of them are outside, like eating by the barbecue. We see Anna seeing him through the window on the phone and is clearly like wondering what's going on we hear over the phone that martin is asking steven to meet him at that same diner that they were at before and steven's like i can't i'm busy right now and he's like what are you doing you are you at the hospital is someone are you in surgery is it really busy like uh just come meet me for 10 minutes i got you a slice of apple pie like come meet come meet me at the diner. Don't like I don't understand why you can't meet me. Like, really not OK with the fact that Stephen isn't able to leave where he's at and meet him at this diner. Hangs up, comes back outside.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And Matthew then says to Stephen, he's like, oh, I saw that kid, that schoolmate of your of your daughters at the hospital the other day in the parking garage. He looks like he was like wandering around where your car is. And Stephen says, no, that's not possible. That that couldn't couldn't couldn't have been him. And he says, well, sure, couldn't have been sure looked a lot like him. He's like, no, no, that wouldn't that wouldn't have been him. Sure looked a lot like him. He's like, no, no, that wouldn't have been him.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That night, Kim comes home from school, walks up to her dad, gives him a hug and says, dad, guess who I saw? I guess I saw at school. I saw Martin. And he says, Martin, Martin, who? He says, you know, the boy who came to dinner, the son of your ex patient. He she says he took me on his friend's motorcycle and like rode around on his motorcycle and oh boy oh no Stephen says oh well
Starting point is 00:53:12 why didn't you why didn't you invite him inside and she says oh he he I did but he had to get on he has somewhere he has to be and Stephen is clearly not comfortable with this then we cut to outside and we see that And Stephen is clearly not comfortable with this. Then we cut to outside and we see that.
Starting point is 00:53:29 No, Martin did not leave. Martin is sitting on the motorcycle, just staring at their house in the dark. Ew. Barry Keegan's face, too. Oh, my God. It's like his performance is unbelievable. It's so good. Oh, what does he look like? He's a very creepy looking guy. I also
Starting point is 00:53:50 find him hot. He is hot. He's a perfect, I'm like thrilled that he's an actor and we get to I'm thrilled that he's an actor. And like the way, so in this movie he's like always sort of like leaning forward a little bit and he has like a bit of a lisp.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And his upper lip always comes out a bit over his bottom lip. And he doesn't really look up a ton. He'll talk. And then he looks up when he's done. It's just like his vibe is just fucking weird. Yeah. I hate it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I hate this. And he takes a lot of deep breaths. He'll say something and then be like. It's just like. It's be like. It's just like it's it's fascinating. The next day, they're all it's morning. They're in the kitchen. Kim, Stephen and Anna are on the kitchen getting ready for the day. And Stephen says, where's Bob?
Starting point is 00:54:38 He's got to get ready for school. And Anna says, well, he likes to like sit in bed for a little bit before he gets up. Just let him take his time. And Stephen says he's going to be late for school. I need to go get him. So he goes upstairs and we see Bob sitting on the bed and like sitting up in bed. And Stephen says, come on, Bob, you got
Starting point is 00:54:52 to get ready for school. Everyone's going to leave you. I'm not going to wait around for you. And he says, I can't get up. Stephen says, come on. Yes, you can get up. Come on. We get ready for school. And he's just I can't get up. My legs. They're numb. I can't move he goes I can't get up My legs they're numb I can't move them
Starting point is 00:55:07 I can't stand up It's beginning It's beginning So they take Bob To the hospital and They have a bunch of tests done They take him to the neurological center I mean Stephen is a very Like it seems very well respected
Starting point is 00:55:24 Cardiologist this big hospital We've I don't know if we've learned yet, but we know that Anna works in some sort of medical facility. We learned that she's an ophthalmologist. So, you know, they're both doctors. They know all the people at this hospital. So, they take him to the neurological center. We see him having all these tests done. And they find nothing on the tests. And he he's then he's able to walk Again like they're like a message Has been stressed or I don't know he's he's fine They they get him up like okay
Starting point is 00:55:51 Great he's fine no problem And so Anna And And Bob leave the hospital And we see this is long shot From way above of them Going down the escalator together and we just see them going down the escalator.
Starting point is 00:56:08 There they go down the escalator and they get to the bottom and they take their first steps and Bob collapses again. Oh no. So they give him an MRI. Again, they find nothing. Steven and
Starting point is 00:56:23 Anna, we see that they're still at the hospital, like, talking with doctors, just being like, what is the deal? What's going on with Bob? Steven is really determined to be like, run the test again. Like, we have to, there's got to be something in these tests. Like, what's going on? We see, we cut away. And at that same time, Kim is with Martin riding around on his motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Don't like that. We see her, like, leaning her little head against his back. Clearly just like in love. She is signing off her diary every single night. Good night to you. I love you. Good night, Martin. I love you. I love you, Martin. I hope you love me. I can't wait to see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Sort of like totally normal stuff. So Bob stays overnight at the hospital and they're like, we we're just gonna keep him overnight See what's going on Anna seems calmer about Anna and Stephen at both of this point are like It's gonna be fine
Starting point is 00:57:14 We're not freaking out yet We're not freaking out yet We did all the tests there's nothing on the tests It's probably fine she says I'm gonna bring him Those donuts he likes so much in the morning. It's all going to be fine. When they arrive in the hospital in the morning, Stephen and Anna, they walk into Bob's hospital room. And who should be there but Martin?
Starting point is 00:57:36 They didn't spend the night with Bob? That's just surprising to me. They didn't. They probably, like, waited until he was asleep and then came back in the morning. That's weird. That's a huge that's honestly a huge flag for me. Yeah, I think somebody probably should have stayed the night. Or maybe they did, but Anna like left and got donuts. She like went to get the donuts.
Starting point is 00:57:55 So maybe they stayed the night, but they left to get the donuts and came back in. Not very important, but immediately takes me out of it. I'm like, you stay the night. You obviously stay the night. Yeah. This might have been a moment where Matthew is asking them, Matthew says to Stephen, do you want me to
Starting point is 00:58:12 cancel your surgeries for the morning? And Stephen's like, no, I'm going to cancel. They're trying to be chill. They're trying to be chill. They're trying to keep their lives happening. So yeah, I think they're like, it's fine. It's fine. So when they come in with the box of donuts in the morning, Martin is already in the room and he says i wanted to see bob and kim kim told me about bob and i just wanted to come and see him and i i asked him if he uh
Starting point is 00:58:35 needed help going to the bathroom but he didn't he didn't want my help um and so he wet the bed. And okay, well, bye. Bye, Bob. See you later. And as he walks out of the room, he comes up to Stephen and whispers in his ear, come meet me in the cafeteria. I need to talk to you. And Stephen's like, I'm very busy. And he's just like, no, don't come. Don't stand me up like last time.
Starting point is 00:58:59 You have to come meet me. So up in the cafeteria Steven Sits down with Martin and Martin gives him A box he's like I got you a gift you're always getting me Gifts I haven't gotten you any gift I felt bad about that So I got you a gift it's A Swiss army knife oh I shouldn't have told you That's so stupid I just told you what the gift was
Starting point is 00:59:18 And Steven's like it's okay Thank you and he's like You know I Martin I'm sorry I'm really too busy to to be here i really need to get back i've got patients i've got things i need to attend to and so martin's like okay well i need to um i need to tell you something but you know i'll be quick even though you've been devoting less and less time to me lately um okay i wrote all this down verbatim because this part is very important
Starting point is 00:59:45 Also in this moment we were watching this the other night And Joel was making dinner while I like was Watching the beginning of the movie and so this is about when Dinner was ready and so I went to pause And was like oh great we should like now we should have Dinner and then we'll get back into it and Joel was like You're about to find out Everything like he was like this is a crazy
Starting point is 01:00:01 Moment to like literally there's like There's the moment before this and The movie after and it's like this is the moment but um so yeah he says uh i'll be quick even though you've been devoting less and less time to me lately i'm sorry about bob and compre all says it's nothing serious no it is that That critical moment we both knew would come someday. Here it is. That time is now. You know what I mean. And he says, no, I don't. Listen, Martin, I don't have time for this. And so I'm going to try to do this as he does it because this part is so funny. And he goes, okay, I'm going to explain this very quickly so that I don't hold you up. Yes, it's exactly what you think. Just as you killed a member of my family, now you've got to kill
Starting point is 01:00:46 a member of your family. Balance things out. Understand? I can't tell you who to kill, of course. That's for you to decide. But if you don't do it, they will all get sick and die. Bob will die. Kim will die. Your wife will die. They will all get sick and die. One, paralysis of the limbs. Two, refusal of food to the point of starvation. Three, bleeding from the eyes. Four, death. One, two, three, four. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You won't get sick. You've just got to stay calm. That's all. There. I said it as quickly as I could. Don't worry. You won't get sick. You just gotta stay calm. That's all. There. I said it as quickly as I could. I hope I haven't kept you too long. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh, one more thing. I'll be very quick.
Starting point is 01:01:18 You only have a few days to decide who to kill. Once stage three kicks in, you remember what stage three is? It's bleeding from the eyes. Once stage three kicks in, it's only a matter it's uh bleeding from the eyes once stage three kicks in it's only a matter of hours before they die okay there i have nothing more to say unless unless you have any questions oh man it's freaking genius your ghost how do you do it how do you do it i don't think it's genius i hate it what's the point why are we doing this to ourselves i hate it i hate it I reject it I reject it fully
Starting point is 01:01:45 from my body it's I accept it fucking wild this sequence happens around the 49 minute mark and oh by the way I didn't mention this before you can view this movie on Netflix I think for the next like week or so I highly recommend
Starting point is 01:02:01 go to the 49 minute mark and watch this Moment it is Whew I rewatched it again right before we did this because I was just like I gotta Remember how he delivers this fucking Sequence it's insane It's also crazy how
Starting point is 01:02:17 You spend truly 49 minutes of this Movie being like what is happening What's the and you're like getting you're like okay I think Yeah like Stephen Maybe is responsible for his dad's death Or he was a surgeon or something weird and Like but then it's just like here's the Deal and here's what's gonna happen like we don't we
Starting point is 01:02:33 Do not beat around the bush it's just like Okay so yeah all your family's gonna die unless You do something about it like here it is A complete 180 and like the amount of knowledge The audience has like just in one moment And because of the nature like how this is like it is literally delivered that quickly where he's like okay I won't waste your time
Starting point is 01:02:49 one two three four your family's gonna die they're gonna like it's just like oh my fucking fuck god oh my god so we see security escorting Martin out of the hospital oh my god um Steven goes mad I'm like mad at you Emily and I'm mad i'm really sorry
Starting point is 01:03:06 i was mad at sammy i was mad at sammy so i get it i understand i'm angry um i was also really mad at your ghost uh as this when this movie ended i was like i do this thing where when someone makes a movie that i think is too fucked up you guys know this i'm truly like i get mad and i'm like what is i like what is wrong with you like I'm like what the fuck is your problem and I really felt that way like I felt recently my mom watched
Starting point is 01:03:33 the new spider-man movie which I haven't seen but she was really upset at all of the violence like I guess there's like it's an action movie so there's like violence in it and she was like I just don't understand like why who would like that like why would you like well i just don't understand what that's for which is because like i'm fucking obsessed with action movies and i will watch i will watch action violence like all day every day and it does
Starting point is 01:03:57 not affect me something like this i too was like why would anybody make this movie who is this for like what why this is just like not acceptable that anyone would do this and it just reminded me um but it isn't acceptable and i don't and i don't like it but so steven goes uh back up to bob's room and he says to anna has he eaten and she says uh no he he doesn't have an appetite. And if you recall. Oh, boy. We're at stage two already. We're at stage two. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Honestly, kill Anna. Sorry. I thought that, too. The whole time I was like, just kill Anna. Like, just kill Anna. I'm sorry, but like. Just kill your wife. That is kind of what you have to do. If your two children are an adult, you just kill the adult.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I think. Well, they're all going to make arguments. We'll see. Yeah. We're all. Stay tuned. Stay going to make arguments. We'll see. We're all going to stay tuned. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. We got we it's maybe they don't think it's so simple.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But I mean, in my in my imagination, I'm the wife, obviously, like that. I don't think I would necessarily be like, yeah, no, just kill. Well, maybe I would. I kind of think I would. I think that many people would. But I think I would just be like, yeah, kill me. Of course, I would do that. If it was me or my would just be like yeah kill me of course i would do that if it was me or my kids yeah just kill me yeah just wait um but so yeah he comes back and
Starting point is 01:05:13 he finds out that bob hasn't eaten and so then he tries to force feed bob this donut he's like come on you love this he's like shoving it in his mouth okay we get it we don't need to know he's just like so sorry he's just like so, sorry. He's just like so fucking, he's like, this cannot. Yeah, he's panicked. He's trying to happen. He's trying to disprove it and just be like, nope, you're eating. You're eating. This is like whatever fucking, whatever Martin told me, like, that's not, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:05:40 We cut to then a scene of then Martin and Kim are hanging out in Kim's bedroom. She's like, they're just talking and she like has her arm around him. He asks her if she's on her period right now. She says she's not. Oh, God. She goes to her bed. She takes her clothes. They're storing up like bra and underwear.
Starting point is 01:06:00 But she takes her clothes off and he tells her that she's the most beautiful girl he's ever seen but uh then he leaves no they don't do anything she seems like disappointed too bad we can't be together because i wanted your someone in your family your whole family needs to die also i just wanted to point out this actress she's great She was 14 at the time of filming. And Barry Keegan's 24. So pretty weird. Whoa. I mean, nothing happens.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Barry Keegan's 24? Well, now he's like 30. That's not true. That's not how time works. He does not seem that old. No, I think he's like 29 now. Something like that. 28, 29?
Starting point is 01:06:41 Sure, sure. 2017 was five years ago? Four years? Five years ago. Five. Yeah, 29. He's 29. He's 29. 29. 29. Wait, five years ago? Four years? Five years ago. He's 29. Wait, when's his birthday? He's a Libra. October 18th. Oh, October 18th. I don't know why I thought he was an Aries,
Starting point is 01:06:54 but that's somebody else. Anyway, that's somebody else. There's somebody else in the world. There's somebody out there. Who's an Aries. That's right. So, at the hospital, Steven is then demanding that all the tests be done again on Bob. There's somebody out there. Who's an Aries. That's right. So at the hospital, Steven is then demanding that all the tests be done again on Bob. He's like, we missed
Starting point is 01:07:10 something. We have to do it again. Anna's saying, you know, it's been 24 hours. The tests or nothing has changed. There was like a team of doctors and she and they are also like, you know, it seems pretty clear this is some sort of psychosomatic disorder. And then Steven is like pretty rude to her and says, like, well, you're an ophthalmologist.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Like, you'll understand if I don't, like, take your word as fact. Like, sort of disrespecting her branch of medicine that she couldn't possibly know as well as he does. Some friction in the family starting. Starting to create some friction. Steven is just refusing to accept that they can't find out what's wrong We see him put a needle In Bob's spine doing some sort of Spine needle test that
Starting point is 01:07:54 I really hated seeing Then we see Steven wheeling Bob Down the hall in A wheelchair we saw a moment of this in the trailer And he Picks him up out of the wheelchair and it's like come on bob let's go let's walk we're just gonna walk then he like picks him up and starts like trying to put him down on his feet and he can't and it's actually
Starting point is 01:08:15 it's like very impressive physical acting for children yeah i feel like it really is just to be like go completely limp like it's like that's that would not be easy to do. No, your brain. You have to fight all your instincts. Yeah, exactly. Scary. Yeah, the kids are really good in this. I think the kids are very, very good. Yeah. But yeah, so he's like, you know, dragging him down the hall and then trying to like put weight on his feet and he can't
Starting point is 01:08:38 and he falls and it's really fucking upsetting and Steven sits on the ground with him and he he says like, like, OK. If this is an act, if this is an act, we're not to be mad. Just like, you know, just like you can you can tell me and you can stop doing this. Like, it's fine. We're not gonna be mad.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I promise. The kid's like, it's not an act. And Steven says, OK, OK, let's play a game. We're going to play a game where I'm going to tell you a secret, and then you're going to tell me a secret. And we'll just keep going until somebody has the best secret. Until you admit that you're faking it. Yeah, seriously. But I'll go first.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I'll go first. He goes, when I was a kid and I first started masturbating, I would only ever ejaculate like a little drop. Like I don't, it'll only be like a little drop. And I also imagine this was like Colin Farrell's Irish accent, which I don't even think I can possibly attempt in this moment, but I would only get like a little drop and it made me really nervous. I was like really nervous about it.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I thought something was wrong with me. And I felt like it didn't make sense that I would only get just like a little bit. So one night when my dad was asleep i snuck into his room and i i put my hand on his penis and i stroked it until he ejaculated and so much came out that it just really scared me and i left the room and i've never told anybody that. Okay, your turn. What's your secret? I think the thing in your ghost is like the complete lack of boundaries on everybody's parts. It's like nothing. And the like casual, like the flatness with which they all reveal these things to each
Starting point is 01:10:17 other. It's like not the tone of revealing a secret. It's like, here's a matter of fact, horrifying thing that absolutely should not be shared between father and son. Father and son or anyone, to be completely honest. Yeah. And yeah, that like complete lack of boundaries is very unsettling. Just people so casually, even though like period stuff, like just so being.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. I mean, like I just got my first period. Yeah. To a stranger. It's just like, what are we doing? Yeah. Oh, no. Poor Bob.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Poor Bob. Yeah. Then Bob goes, Bob's like, I don't, I don't have anything like that. And so then Steven says, tries a new tactic and he goes, okay,
Starting point is 01:10:56 Bob, Bob, here's the thing. If this is an act, you got to tell me now because you will not just be, if I find out this is an act, you're going to be in so much trouble. You're not just going to be, it's not just going i find out this is an act you're gonna be in so much trouble you're not just gonna be it's not just gonna be grounding it's not just gonna be no
Starting point is 01:11:08 tv for two months i will get my i will get my razor i'll shave your head and i will make you eat your hair i'm not joking i will literally make you eat your own hair jesus christ and bob just looks at me and just goes it's not an act oh he had like a fucking he's no it's not an act um then we see Kim in choir practice they're inexplicably singing Christmas music this is like not a Christmas movie but they're singing this song
Starting point is 01:11:35 the um oh that's scary that should be in every horror movie honestly it really is scary but so she's like singing and it goes on for a while and it's like they're pretty great choir it's like sounds great and she's singing and it goes on for a while and it's like, they're a pretty great choir. It sounds great. And they're singing and they're singing and they're doing it and we're focused on Kim's face and in the middle
Starting point is 01:11:51 of the song, she collapses. Yep. Oh, man. And oh, the dread in this moment. Oh, the dread. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. It's crazy how you can know what's coming and still like, like when she collapses, I truly was like, uh, no. OK, so it might be around now that I had I guess I had like twisted my ankle or something the day before.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Like I woke up this day and my ankle was sore. It felt like bruised but i was like i didn't knock it on anything it was just like weirdly sore and i couldn't remember what i had done i probably twisted it because i do that all the time i have like very wobbly ankles but so i was sitting on the couch and my and my ankle was really hurting in like this weird way and i was filled with such dread and i i truly in this moment was like, something's wrong with me. Something's wrong with me. This could just happen.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Like something is wrong. I'm going to fall off the couch. The dread of this movie somehow convinced me that I was getting sick. Yep. That's how deep it ran. I'm really telling you. I'll have you guys know my body has been clenched through this entire process, as you are aware. I hope you don't get any numbness from that clenching.
Starting point is 01:13:10 My feet have been in a weird position on my chair, and I just moved them, and they're completely numb. Oh, no. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. You know, when you've just been holding your feet in a very intense position for a long time that's what i was just doing and they're numb and now all the all the feelings rushing back and it's tingling and it's horrible i'm really sorry yeah that's a bad i'm in a bad sensation to have bad
Starting point is 01:13:35 timing i'm gonna try to i'm gonna try to get you through this henley i'm gonna try to get you through this um yeah can we fucking yeah i'm just gonna fucking blow through it who cares whatever yeah thanks thanks so then you know cut to the hospital kim is in a hospital bed next to bob they're both in there they've got uh she's also refusing to eat she like steven tries to get her to take a bite of an apple and so she like tries to and you see it in her mouth and she's just like like just like doesn't want to get it down so steven goes to martin's house we see him outside banging on the door trying to get in be like barton i, I know you're in there. He says, if anything happens to my family, you will die in prison. You will die in prison,
Starting point is 01:14:08 Martin. Nobody answers. But so then that night, he and Anne are sitting down outside the hospital and he finally explains to her what is going on. He says, Martin's dad, she says, what happened? Like, how did his dad die? He says he was 46.
Starting point is 01:14:24 He had a stroke on the table. She says, were says, what happened? Like, how did his dad die? He says he was 46. He had a stroke on the table. She says, were you drinking that day? He says, yeah, I had like two drinks, but that's not what it was. And he had been seeing, she says, how long have you been seeing Martin? He says, I've been seeing him about six months. But it's been getting, he's been getting like weirder and weirder. I just, I felt bad for him. Really?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yeah. There's got to be more. There's got to to be more to it is there not more to it than that i just feel do you know what i mean well you know i think i mean i think they because he tells her then he's like you know it's i was drinking but yeah but it's you know a surgeon can't can never kill a patient it's always anesthesiologists like you know i you know martin he doesn't his family doesn't have that much money and like i was you know I felt like I was helping out. It's silly that he felt guilty that he is the reason his dad died. And I think the implication here is that at some point, Martin started really reaching out to him and leaning on him and being like, guilting him and I don't have a dad and please hang out with me.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And it just sort of got ramped up and up and up and got like weirder and weirder until we've hit this point um and and i think that like steven allowed it because he felt guilty about the fact that it's probably his fault that this kid's dad is dead i also kind of feel like because steven was not interested in leaving his family and marrying martin's mom that's like seems to have been the test that was like okay here's your out Because it's like right after that it's like All right I'll start killing your family then you had An option to be my dad and That would have solved it I need some sort of retribution yeah and
Starting point is 01:15:53 A thing that I truly Love about this movie I will say We never once Worry about how this is possible Like we don't ask It's just happening yeah does Martin have special powers? How is he making this happen? What's the deal? It's just like, this is happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:09 This is happening. And everyone accepts it to be true. When he tells Anna, she's like, this is happening. The next day at the hospital, their kids are in their beds, and Kim's phone rings, and it's Martin. He's calling her from the parking lot.
Starting point is 01:16:25 He tells her to come to the window and wave to him. So she gets up out of bed, stands, walks to the window, waves at him, comes back over and gets back in bed. Martin or then Bob tries to get up. He's like, why can't she stand? He tries to get up. He can't. uh martin or then bob tries to get up he's like why can she stand he tries to get up he can't and then it seems pretty clear that immediately anna or kim can't any again either so anna's like who was that finds out it was martin she grabs her phone she's like don't talk to martin anymore
Starting point is 01:16:55 kim in this moment kim and bob both seem to understand what's going on and why kim says to anna she's like it's okay mom like when your legs start to hurt all you have to do is just make sure you have everything you need within reach you'll see you'll understand so is it it's like weird led to believe that um martin gave kim back the ability to walk just to be able to wave at him and then took it away again then took it away again okay but then also they're weirdly like, she's like weirdly at peace with it. She is weirdly at peace
Starting point is 01:17:29 with it. Well, she has a big crush on him, Henley. She's got a big crush on him. Okay. So Anna then goes to visit Martin at his house and plead with him and he, meanwhile, is, I think it's like the morning because he says he has to get ready for school but he's eating a
Starting point is 01:17:46 big plate of spaghetti which is a fucking genius choice my favorite scene yeah everybody should watch the spaghetti scene too you can find it on YouTube she so she just says to him like you know if if I if my husband was responsible for your father's death out of a mistake
Starting point is 01:18:02 or some negligence I just don't understand why me and my children have to pay the price. Like just really trying to emotionally like plead with him. He said he's eating spaghetti and he goes, everybody told me I eat spaghetti just like my dad. They said, look at the boy. He eats spaghetti just like his father. He puts his fork down, spins it, brings it to his mouth. Then I realize everybody eats spaghetti the exact same way. That's the way that everybody eats spaghetti. And that made me very upset. Very upset.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I'm more upset than when he died. And, you know, I don't know if what is happening is fair, but it's the only thing I can think of that's close to justice. And then he's like, I got to get ready for school. If I'm late, I'll be had. And just like, I gotta get ready for school. If I'm late, I'll be had. And just like gets up and gets ready for school. It's such a great scene. It's like performance in this, like the most unsettling
Starting point is 01:18:54 eating of spaghetti I feel like you've ever, it's just getting all over his face. It's so sinister. He's so messy with it. Oh my god. It's a really creepy scene. I mean, all of the scenes are, but all of the scenes are creepy. If he's in it, it's creepy.
Starting point is 01:19:09 There are just no social norms. He doesn't care about any social norms. You can't appeal to his emotions at all. It's not happening. So then Anna meets up with Matthew, the anesthesiologist, because she's like, I need to get some information on what the fuck happened here.
Starting point is 01:19:26 So do you remember this guy? Do you remember the case? And at first he's saying they're like a restaurant or something. At first he's like, you know, I don't know. We see a lot of patients and she's like he's she's asking him to give her the file. And he's like, I can't I can't just give you the file. And then he says, but you know what? I actually I do remember this guy. And I, you the file and then he says but you know what i actually
Starting point is 01:19:45 i do remember this guy and i you know i could tell you what i know uh what i remember about it but what am i gonna get in return oh god and she says um what i couldn't give you when we came over for lunch that day he says when she says now cut to they're in her car and she's jerking him off while he tells her what he remembers about this case. And he's like, he was drinking. I think I was the only one who noticed. But, you know, it wasn't really that unusual. That, like, happens a lot. It's crazy how there can be no just normal scene it's like
Starting point is 01:20:25 every step of the way has to be so uncomfortable in this moment I was like when he's just getting like jerked off in the seat of a car like and she's just like it's like so unsexual it's just like she's just like fucking
Starting point is 01:20:41 doing it I truly I was so upset I was so I just like she's just like fucking doing it i truly i i was so upset i was so i just like who would want this like i was just really fucking upset but he says he repeats like a line that steven had said earlier he goes you know when when someone dies it's never the anesthesiologist fault it's always a certain right um they bring the kids home and put them in hospital beds in the house they've taken them out of the hospital they have feeding tubes like going into their noses they're both very like awake and alert but they're just they're not eating so they're having to be fed this like formula that night steven and anna are in the kitchen he is eating she's like sitting on the kitchen
Starting point is 01:21:19 counter just staring at him um oh oh i forgot forgot one thing that in the spaghetti scene, Martin says like, oh, I probably shouldn't be the one to tell you this, but you know, ever since my father died, your husband's really been flirting with my mom and she loves his hands. He loves his clean white hands. And I don't know, I probably shouldn't be the one to tell you this, but he's just been like really flirting with my mom.
Starting point is 01:21:40 So that night, Steven is eating dinner, trying to act like everything's normal. And he's like, it's good that we brought the kids home. I guess it's better than them being at the hospital. And I think they're doing better. I think they're doing better. And, you know, we should probably take them to the beach house and get them some fresh beach air. And you know what I've really been craving lately?
Starting point is 01:21:55 I've really been craving mashed potatoes. Could you make me some mashed potatoes tomorrow? And she's just staring at him and she goes, you do have beautiful hands. I've never noticed it before before but everybody's been telling me Layla you have such beautiful hands Oh god Too bad that you're just an incompetent small man He's like
Starting point is 01:22:12 Getting upset and he's like what's going on And she's like yeah I mean our kids are dying But let's go to the beach house let me make you some fucking mashed potatoes And he's like What do you suggest I do Like what do you want me to do? Oh, oh, oh, I know, I know. I need to get the teeth of a crocodile
Starting point is 01:22:30 and the blood of a pigeon and the pubes of a virgin and bring them out into the sunrise and burn them in the air. And he starts being like, okay, great. Where's the teeth? Where's the teeth?
Starting point is 01:22:38 And he starts like opening all the kitchen drawers and being like, I need to find pubes and like throwing glasses and like breaking things and it's like, do we keep them in here? Do we them in here just causing like total fucking chaos
Starting point is 01:22:48 he goes up to her and he's like um come on come on give me your pubes oh wait you don't have any it's just like oh my god fucking crazed at this point that then uh that we see them go to bed that night like silently next to each other we see in the darkness he gets up out of bed the next morning he wakes her up and his knuckles are bloodied and he like wakes up and he's like come on come you need to come see this so steven takes anna down to the basement where we see he has martin uh tied up clearly beaten sitting in a chair in the basement and he says to Anna, he's like, we're just going to keep him here until the kids get better.
Starting point is 01:23:27 He's just going to have to stay here until the kids get better. That'll work. That'll work. So Anna leaves. Stephen says to Marnie, he's like, are you happy? Do you think your mom would be proud of you that you're a murderer? And Marnie says, the murderer, both in my father's case and in this one,
Starting point is 01:23:43 is you. And so Stephen punches him in the face, knocks knocks a tooth out his mouth is all bloody martin then grabs martin's like i just want just let me i just let me explain to you like i just need me to explain to you like what what is going on here and so he grabs steven's arm and bites down really fucking hard and makes him bleed. Stephen backs away and is holding his arm. And Martin goes, what could I do to make this better? What could I do? I can't take it back.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Should I just rub my hand on the wound? Would that make it better? No, that's not going to make it better. That would probably really hurt. Because it would probably hurt. It's an open wound. So what can I do to make it better that would probably really hurt because it's an open wound so what can i do to make it better and then he bites down into his own arm really fucking hard i wasn't watching at this point i went i covered my eyes but you hear what sounds like him removing like a chunk of flesh
Starting point is 01:24:36 from his own arm god okay and he goes see do you understand it's metaphorical i mean it's symbolic oh my god then from we see anna is out like cleaning blood out of the trunk of the car because he clearly like kidnapped martin and put him in the trunk of his car and we hear a shot go off she goes back to the basement steven is holding a shotgun he clearly just shot martin in the leg and he's holding the shotgun up to his head and it's gonna kill kill him. And Martin says, I mean, you killed me, but it won't solve anything. You know, like, you know, one bullet.
Starting point is 01:25:11 There'll be only one bullet, but four dead. They'll wonder how did one shot go out before people died? Meaning like if he kills Martin, it's still going to be Bob. Right. And Kim all dead.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Already in motion. So he doesn't shoot him. Upstairs, Kim and Bob are sitting in their little home hospital room. And Kim, it's weird, Kim seems to have some sort of deep connection
Starting point is 01:25:38 to Martin. She's very aware of what's happening to him. Like psychic level. Yeah, even when they're not together. Cause she says to Bob, she goes, dad is right not to kill Martin because it would be like, you know, one bullet and four people dead.
Starting point is 01:25:50 You know, what's the point in that? And she goes, I'm sorry, Bob, that you're, you're probably going to die. Like they're going to probably choose you.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Um, and Bob's like, well, dad said he was going to get me a piano. Like they're basically just like lobbying for who it seems like their parents love more. Oh my God. Because they know that one of them is going to die. They're being like, no, it's going to be you that's going to die.
Starting point is 01:26:11 No, it's going to be, I'm sorry, but it's going to be you. They love me more. And he's like, but why would they tell me they're getting me a piano if I'm going to die? I think it's going to be you. And she says, man, I keep losing my MP3 player. I don't know how I keep losing my MP3 players. I've lost two MP3 players. Bob, when you die, can I have your MP3 player. I don't know how I keep losing my MP3 players. I've lost two MP3 players. Bob, when you die, can I have your MP3 player?
Starting point is 01:26:30 Like, it's so hard. The tone of it is so funny. There are some there are so many, like, very funny moments, but it's also just like so so fucking twisted, deeply upsetting. Well, it's well, it's like, has he, like, gotten in her head? Like, he's like controlling her thoughts, too, kind of. Or is she just also is everyone in this universe just obsessed with him? Yeah. Everyone in this universe is like psychotic kind of everyone.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Yeah. And she's just obsessed with him and loves him. No one is that obsessed with anyone where they're just Henley. Let me show you this diary. I'm telling you, nothing could make more sense to me. Honestly, her character is the most reasonable one in this whole movie to me um but it's mainly just like i think they all the kids especially seem to really accept this as fact they like on they like know this is just what's happening and they like don't question
Starting point is 01:27:17 it one bit they're like dad's gonna have to kill one of us like dad's just gonna have to kill one of us that's just what it is like there's no other way around that's part of what takes the scariness out of it is because no one like seems that scared like they're all they're like i don't know confused i guess maybe the parents seem more scared but you know what i mean it's like no one's like fuck fuck fuck we're gonna die like we need to that i always hate that the most there's no one getting around it no one's like how do we not except for steven steven's the only one who's like, keeps being like, oh, I could kidnap Martin. I could do like, I can still will this to not be the case. I can find a solution.
Starting point is 01:27:51 I can find a cure. Everyone else is like, this is happening. One of us is going to fucking die or all of us are going to die. Like everybody else, even Anna at this point is sort of just like, there's not like, what are you going to do? We're just one of us is going to die. We have to like, just do that. So that so then oh god this is so sad we see bob dragging himself through the house also like you saw this a little bit in the trailer when the kids like move through the house they crawl they like army crawl with their arms and like pull themselves through the house with
Starting point is 01:28:21 their little like mermaid bodies like it's so fucking sad so we see bob dragging himself through the house he goes into a cabinet gets a pair of scissors and it's not as bad as what i thought it was gonna be he just starts cutting his hair and he cuts his hair short and then he crawls himself into the kitchen and says dad dad uh i'm sorry for not cutting my hair before look i cut my hair now and it really is so much better you were right I don't know what I was thinking it was it was always getting in my face and it was too hot and like this really is so much better and I'm really really glad I cut my hair and Stephen carries him back to bed and as he's carrying him back to bed he says dad by the way
Starting point is 01:28:58 I've been thinking and I want to be a cardiologist like you when I grow up I that's like what I that's what I want to want to be I just I just think what you do is really important and that's what I want to be when I grow up. Oh my god, I love it. Then we see Stephen completely break down. He's alone in another room and he just is sobbing.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Because I think this is the moment of him being like, I have to kill someone. I have to kill someone in my family. kill someone. Yeah. In my family. There's no, I have to. And so then we get probably the most delightful scene of the whole movie, which is then Stephen goes, the next day he goes to visit the kid's principal at school and he starts asking him like, okay, how do, how do they do in school? Like who's, basically he's like, who's smarter?
Starting point is 01:29:41 And the principal's like, well, Bob is, Bob is great in math and science he like really is doing very well but Kim Kim just wrote this fabulous essay in her actually it's an essay on which is the story this is based on he's like wrote a great essay and he's like okay well who misbehaves
Starting point is 01:29:59 more like who gets in more trouble he's like I don't really get many notes from either their teacher I mean like sure certain little things but like nobody's really causing problems and so he goes okay so fine um if you had to say you like one of them better which one do you think you like better and the principal's like i don't i don't know that i could answer that oh my god just gathering the facts just like okay fine which. Which kid should I kill? Which kid to kill? We see then Anna brings the kids down into the basement while Stephen is out.
Starting point is 01:30:31 And she tends to Martin's wounds. She, like, wraps up his shot wound. She puts some alcohol on it. She's, like, cleaning him up. Then she, like, bends down and kisses his bare bloody feet. She, like, kisses the top of his feet. And then he just says to her, she like goes to take the kids back out. He's like, thank you for bringing them to see me.
Starting point is 01:30:53 That's really nice of you to bring them to see me. And then as she's leaving, he goes, Anna, if you're going to do something, it better be fast. The boy's about to die. Oh, no. Oh, no. That night, Anna and Stephen are laying in bed she tries she takes off all her clothes this time all our clothes you see naked nicole kidman what a bod she lays down naked on the bed like anesthesia and general anesthesia style and he doesn't he
Starting point is 01:31:19 just like turns the light off and so she comes over and like lays next to him and she says i've been thinking and and i believe the most logical thing to do would be to kill a child because you know we can have another you know what i can probably get pregnant again if not we can do ivf and and so i you know i i think probably that's the answer is we have to kill a child yeah notoriously replaceable yeah this is um it's never been more obvious that this was not written by mother like ever in the history of time yeah okay meanwhile in the middle of the night we see this is a very interesting sequence and it's gonna be a little hard to describe but we see kim she crawls her way down to the basement she lights up a cigarette gives it to martin she's talking with martin and she's like they're all asleep like we can run away together all you have to do is to make me better and he's like not talking
Starting point is 01:32:07 and she's like just come on just nothing's happening she's like you're not trying hard enough you're not trying hard enough you need to make me better and she starts grabbing him in the reach and throwing them at him and is like make me better he's not doing it all of this is over cut like we see
Starting point is 01:32:24 the parents wake up and realize that kim's not in her bed and so they're like walking through each other's house turning lights on looking for her looking for her we also see this is also intercut with she's sitting on the couch with them and her knees are really bloody and they're like cleaning her knees and she we're hearing this voiceover which is happening as she's sitting on the couch with them saying, Father, I would do anything for you. Please forgive my sins. Like, I would do anything for you and my and my wonderful mother and my wonderful brother. Like, please kill me.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Let me be the one to die. You know, I just love you so much. I would do anything for you. Please kill me. I should be the one you father like you. You guys are my masters. I love you more than anything in the world. Just getting like real just like that's her tactic is just being like i'm the purest of heart child um but meanwhile they're like going
Starting point is 01:33:08 through the house looking for they can't find her they go into the basement they're screaming he screams at martin he's like what where is she like what did you do with her there we see them walking down the street in the sidewalk in their neighborhood at night trying to find her and they find her just like crawling down the sidewalk which is why her knees got all bloody the next morning steven comes home he just went to get more feeding formula for the kids anna sitting in the kitchen and uh she says i that she let martin go he's like where's martin she's like i let him go and steven gets really mad and she said she goes it's not going to make any difference it's not going to solve anything we both know that not going to solve anything. We both know that. I agree. Then Anna is in the
Starting point is 01:33:48 kids' room. She's cleaning, giving Bob a little hospital bath. She's washing his little legs. Kim says, did you tell Dad about the time that I was rude to you at the hospital? Anna's like, of course I did. Of course I told your father that. So Kim's being like please don't
Starting point is 01:34:06 like you ratted me out now he's gonna want to kill me oh my god and so Kim gets mad and she says to her mom she goes do your legs hurt do your feet hurt does your spine hurt are they numb has it started and Anna goes over and slaps her in the face
Starting point is 01:34:22 and it's just like everyone is doing badly. Ben, Kim, and Bob are in their room. And we are just focused on Bob's face. He's sitting in his wheelchair. This shot is, I don't know how they pulled this off. I truly don't know how they did this. It's incredible and awful.
Starting point is 01:34:41 I'm really sorry, Henley. So we're looking at Bob. He's sitting there and his eyes start to maybe get a little watery and then it's like they're kind of slowly getting like pink and then slowly getting red and then blood just starts pooling
Starting point is 01:34:58 and falling from his eyes. It is horrifying. You guys know that Billie Eilish music video where blue, it's exactly like that But it's blood But it's blood But I think it's the same It has to be like somewhat real
Starting point is 01:35:13 Like they put tubes in his eyes They had to do something it's crazy Cause you watch it you're just slow on him Like you don't cut away you just like watch it Happening And Kim is in a wheelchair They have like little wheelchairs so they can run around And Kim just goes dad cut away you just like watch it happening yeah and kim is in a wheelchair they have they have like little wheelchairs so they can run around and kim just goes dad bob's dying dad come on
Starting point is 01:35:33 oh my god so then steven is cleaning bob's eyes he's like what it's so sad oh and it's so horrifying and he's sitting with bob and he's like wiping the blood from his eyes and Bob says dad how many best friends do you have he says I don't know and he says I have three best friends and he's like that's
Starting point is 01:35:57 great Bob it's important to have best friends Stephen goes upstairs then and to get Anna and he like, come to the living room. And she says, I think I'm going to wear that black dress that you really like. And he says, wear whatever you want. But it's time. Come to the living room. She says, are the kids there? And he's like, yep, they're already there. She comes down. We see the living room. She comes down. We see the living room. All three of them are their wrists are tied with duct tape. They're tied to their chairs, duct tape over their mouths in sort of three separate corners of the living room and chairs, Kim, Anna and Bob. He comes over and he puts pillowcases over their heads
Starting point is 01:36:45 one by one. And they're all sort of like shedding little tears. The saddest one is when he goes to put it over Bob's head. Bob just like goes like and like shakes his head. He's the only one who's like no. But he does it. He, Martin, or sorry, Stephen pulls the beanie over his
Starting point is 01:37:03 head. He's holding the shotgun and he the beanie over his head. He's holding the shotgun and he just starts spinning in a circle. Oh, my spinning in a circle. Stop. Oh, my God. Shoots in a direction. Doesn't get anyone. Pulls the beanie up.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Looks. Realizes he didn't get anyone. Pulls back down. Kill yourself. That won't solve it. That's not an option. He's not an option. Oh, that's not an option. Oh, I forgot that wasn't an option. He has to kill a member of his family. Nothing's going to happen to him.
Starting point is 01:37:29 But if he doesn't kill a member of his family, they will all die. They all die. Okay, we'll kill Anna. So he, once again, second time, spins around, spins around, spins around, spins around, shoots, pulls Zabini up, didn't get anybody, pulls Zabini back down, spins around, spins around, spins around, spins around, spins around, shoots, pulls Zabanie up didn't get anybody pulls the beanie back down spins around spins around
Starting point is 01:37:45 spins around spins around shoots oh my god pulls the beanie up we see from under bob's little pillowcase okay blood start pooling oh my god pulling down his shirt and then he just slumps over oh my god slumps over okay okay and then what i believe to be truly the next day because uh kim's hands are still like wrapped up in little bandages we see uh very stoically anna steven and kim sitting at that sam diner at a table kim is eating a big plate of fries she douses in ketchup, which is really upsetting after everything that's happened. And they're just sitting at their little diner table,
Starting point is 01:38:32 and Martin walks in, walks over to the bar, stands at the bar, looks at them. They're all very aware of each other. Kim is locking him right in the eyes. But then, you know, Martin just sits at the bar.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Doesn't bother them. They get up. They walk out of the diner as they're walking out. Kim turns around, makes eye contact with Martin. Can't help but give him a little smile. And that's the end of the movie. This movie can go fuck itself. It can. I'm done movie can go fuck itself I'm done it absolutely can
Starting point is 01:39:07 yeah it can go fuck itself for sure I love it I'm done they just kill they just flagrantly kill the smallest most innocent one it is unacceptable I can't believe people have greenlit this movie
Starting point is 01:39:24 I can't believe it made it to production I'm furious at Nicole Kidman I'm furious at Colin Farrell I'm furious at both of you having chest pains but you didn't need your tequila soda
Starting point is 01:39:40 but I don't know if you stand by that choice that was fucked yeah and yeah it's really fucked so the name killing of a sacred deer comes from it's it's based on this greek uh story of and in that story uh agamemnon had offended Artemis one of the gods, goddesses and she says she makes it so that the only way he can like repay his offense is by
Starting point is 01:40:14 killing his daughter and he eventually at the end is able to trick Artemis into thinking that he killed his daughter by killing a sacred deer instead. So that's where the title of the movie comes from. But in this
Starting point is 01:40:29 movie, the choice is made that, like, there's no way out. You can't fucking trick us. You have to kill a kid. It's like, it doesn't work that way. You have to fucking kill your kid. Which is more realistic, I feel like. Which is more realistic. You can't mistake a sacred deer for a child. No. Also, I really love, I mean, I Which is more realistic. You can't mistake a sacred deer for a child.
Starting point is 01:40:46 No. Also, I really love, I mean, I don't love it. I fucking hate it. But it's the fact that they never once, yeah, they don't deal with like, how does he get this ability? Like, why is it? And it feels like in watching it that it's just sort of like it's about like the balancing of the universe like Martin wants retribution and therefore he is given the ability to make that happen
Starting point is 01:41:09 it's just like that's just what it is so he's like yeah I mean like this is what's going to happen deal with it and it's not really my fault it's your fault and like here it is oh my god okay well fuck this.
Starting point is 01:41:26 I mean, that's my only review. A two word review. My no. And also, you guys already know because I made this pretty clear throughout. But it's like Nicole Kidman's character makes no sense to me. You can't be like she was seemed like a good mother. That's what's confusing about it. She's like a good mother.
Starting point is 01:41:44 But then simultaneously, like, yeah, but I'll kill one of them. You know what I mean? That seems like hard to be both. But anywho, I am moving on. I'm just going to pick myself up and move on. Good for you, Hen. I love it very much. I feel like he's such a unique filmmaker.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Good for you, Hen. I love it very much. I feel like he's such a unique filmmaker. And what a treat to get to experience these movies. It's not a treat at all. It's not. It couldn't be further from a treat. What is he going to be doing next? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:42:20 It's, like I said, like, it's so, it really is so good. And in, like, thinking back on it and, like, watching individual scenes said, like it's so it really is so good. And in like thinking back on it and like watching individual scenes and like Barry Keegan's performance and the spaghetti moment, it's like I. I'm like not happy I watched it, but. I'm not happy I watched it, but I also, there are moments that I'm, like, glad to have seen. He's got a movie coming out called Poor Things, starring Emma Stone, Margaret Qualley, Willem Defoe, Mark Ruffalo, and Christopher Abbott. Very interesting cast. I'm excited for that.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Wow. I definitely want to see, like everything that barry keegan does from here on out yeah wowie wow he's great i love him very much he's in dunkirk that's the only thing i know i'm from dunkirk he has a he's in um grid the green knight the eternals um oh it's just eternals eternals uh. Maybe the next fucking... If there is another Batman, I don't know. He's in Chernobyl. Oh, Chernobyl.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Got a real dark part in Chernobyl as well. He's a fucking dark dude. He carries a lot of weight with his... I don't know, just like what he brings to the table is really intense. Yeah, he can do a lot with a look. Oh! Okay, well, I just want to apologize to both of you sincerely. Thank you very much. Henley is scowling at me.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Henley, this is, I'm really sorry. This is really how Like I took I watched this movie On Thursday and so I've had three days to recover but Like I really in the immediate Aftermath I was like really not okay I was really not okay and I don't even have a
Starting point is 01:44:17 Child I was like very not okay I was very Mad I was very mad at like the World like I was like honestly Naughty it had like I wasn't even mad At Sammy because Sammy didn't make this movie Happen you know what I world like i was like honestly not it had like i wasn't even mad at sammy because sammy didn't make this movie happen you know what i mean like i was just like well it speaks to the like deep and actual injustice of the world where like you know what i mean i understand that it's about the balancing of the scales in a certain fucked up way but like the fact that the youngest most vulnerable tiny
Starting point is 01:44:46 cute cutie one with three best friends and maybe that's part of it is that right there's like there is no justice there's no justice nothing is fair the world is deeply cruel yeah when someone dies there's no making it right even if you take
Starting point is 01:45:02 a big bite out of your own arm it's nihilism it's chaos yeah it right. Even if you take a big bite out of your own arm. It's nihilism. It's chaos. And I think it's devastation. It's like the bleakest possible look at the world. It's that it just is like this is like the truth. It's weird because it also is really funny.
Starting point is 01:45:21 This is like I honestly think this is the darkest thing I've ever seen. Like it is so dark. Yeah. It's so fucking dark. We need to wrap it up so I can go hug my child before I literally pass out. Just drink him in! Any listeners out
Starting point is 01:45:37 there, go hug your children. Go hug your children. Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. Who's gonna do Colin Farrell's accent to close us out? No, I think she's going to do Barry. No, it's got to be Barry Keegan. It's got to be Barry Keegan. Okay, hold on, hold on. I got to do, okay. One, two, three, four.
Starting point is 01:45:54 You won't get, you're not going to get sick. Y'all just have to do a say, Colin, that's all. Okay, okay. From all of us, okay, from all of us here at Too Scary, don't watch. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch, goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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